Slur for Slur | Unhinged & Immoral EP 70

Summary

Unhinged & Immoral - Episode 70: "Slur for Slur"

Release Date: May 21, 2026
Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
Production: Diamond MPrint Productions

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Episode Overview

In this lively installment, Mecca and Jamila serve up their signature blend of unfiltered commentary, hilarious personal stories, and pop culture analysis. EP 70, aptly titled “Slur for Slur,” is a sprawling episode that touches on Black hair care and beauty standards, the enduring pop culture legacy of the Jackson family, a debate about comedy and race at the Kevin Hart Roast, a deep-dive listener letter ("Spin It" segment), and big announcements about their upcoming live show and summer plans. True to form, Jamila and Mecca keep it candid, relatable, and riotously funny.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hair Color, Maintenance, and Black Hair Struggles

• [01:06–05:47] Jamila discusses going back to black hair after failed attempts to sustain lighter color:

  “I am not someone who can like, number one, I can't keep up with color because I just. I just can't. Number two, I just think that my hair is not strong enough for dyes and bleaches and stuff like that.” – Jamila [01:33]

• Mecca joins in, recounting her own “platinum 613” phases:

  “That was. That's a blonde that only the God's toughest soldiers can keep up with.” – Jamila [02:44] “Not every girl can maintain a 613 naturally…that’s your hair. It will melt off.” – Mecca [02:50]

• Discussion expands to barber and hair experiences for Black men; price, search for a good barber, and the “boy woes” of maintaining a haircut.
• Jamila reflects on wishing she could opt in or out of her “coochie” depending on convenience—especially for hair removal.

  “I just wish that I could pick and choose when I have a coochie... The whole period situation is just very inconvenient for me.” – Jamila [04:41]

2. Celebrity Culture: John Travolta, Jack Harlow, and the Art of Loveable White Celebrities

• [05:47–08:56] Segue into John Travolta’s “new hats and facelift,” connecting this to how Black audiences relate to iconic white celebrities.

  “He’s giving what Jack Harlow thinks he’s giving.” – Mecca [06:20] “There are those white celebrities that black people also really, very much like—John Travolta falls within the category of like Dolly Parton.” – Mecca [07:32]

• Talk on Black people’s specific love of musicals like "Grease," "Dreamgirls," and the annual tradition of watching “The Wiz.”

3. The Jackson Family Pop-Culture Multiverse

• [08:56–15:21] Dive into the Jackson family's ongoing legacy, recent Twitter drama with Jafar Jackson, and Black pop culture's embrace of the family.

  “Six decades of being the most famous family ever. Like… the relevancy. It’s been 60 years.” – Jamila [09:54]

• Discussion about the shifting racial identity of future Jackson generations and comparisons to the Kardashians.
• Personal stories of “Michael Jackson stanhood” and the host’s perspective as a lifelong fan.

  “I used to get made… fun of so much because I be like, yeah, my favorite artist is Michael Jackson.” – Jamila [12:07] “Watching everybody be like, I love Michael Jackson so much. I’m like, oh, please, shut up. If he was alive today, you would be making fun of him.” – Jamila [12:34]

• Segue into discussing Michael’s quirks, “the tism,” and normalization/recognition of autism in contemporary conversation.

  “It’s like the most obvious case of autism… we’re more accepting of autism.” – Jamila [14:25]

• Interlude on being “unbelievably thick” and the comedic downsides of curvy body types.

4. The Jackson Siblings: Latoya and Janet

• [15:36–23:29]
• Celebratory chat about Janet Jackson turning 60, her career as a child star, and Latoya’s unique “first Latoya” name origins.

  “Might be the oldest Latoya in history.” – Mecca [16:08] “Janet is 60 and she’s the baby of the Jacksons. Like, that's crazy.” – Jamila [23:10]

• Fun anecdote: The origin of “Paris” as a shared name between Paris Hilton and Paris Jackson due to a pact between Latoya, Michael, and Kathy Hilton.

5. TikTok Drama & Accountability Culture

• [18:47–22:33]
• Jamila addresses TikTok accusations regarding her friend Dominique, who is incarcerated.

  “Going to jail is quite being held accountable. What do you want me to do? Did you want me to take her to the jail?” – Jamila [18:51]

• Mecca:

  “I'm just not going to do Internet games with some shit with a bitch. I got her phone number.” – Mecca [20:21]

• Critique of moral absolutism in internet culture and the nuance of real-life friendships.

6. The Kevin Hart Roast and the Limits of Racial Comedy

• [24:44–35:50]
• In-depth critique of the racist, unimaginative humor at the Kevin Hart Roast, particularly from non-Black comedians.

  “I'm not laughing at no bullshit, though, and I don't give sympathy laughs. I didn't think any of them jokes was funny.” – Mecca [25:26] “For me, the race jokes are uncreative, especially in a roast, because it’s… supposed to be roasting these people for the things that… they’re attributed to… Just being dark skinned isn’t funny.” – Jamila [27:43]

• Comparison with authentic, affectionate Black jokes and the importance of community and familiarity in comedy roasts.

  “The point of Roast is that it’s supposed to be your people or people who are fans of you.” – Mecca [34:22]

• Astute analysis of how “shock value” has replaced real wit in some modern comedy culture.

  “Now you're just… relying on the shock factor and not on the funny. You didn't get laughs. You got gasps and woes.” – Jamila [31:14]

• “Slur for slur” philosophy as a satirical take on toxic joke escalation:

  "We could go slur for slur." – Mecca [36:45]

• Notable frustration with white comedians who claim they can't do anything, when, in fact, they face little real consequence.

7. Spin It: A Deep-Dive Listener Letter

• [43:00–61:13]
• A richly written letter from a listener (18, queer) asks whether to continue pursuing a possibly flirtatious connection with a 21-year-old Blasian lesbian friend—concerned about age difference and the potential for predatory dynamics.
• Jamila and Mecca analyze the situation with sensitivity and humor, highlighting the fantasy and reality gap, the nuances of college-age relationships, and queer dynamics.

  “You are living for the fantasy of it all. Because the way you wrote it, you made it feel so like, wow, this is ... but, Sister, 18 and 21—I do think that she sees you as the 18 year old cute girl who was just like, you know, along for the ride.” – Jamila [54:20] “If she liked you even just a smidge, she wouldn't have went into that club and left you out there.” – Jamila [58:07]

• Advice highlights the importance of clarity in flirtation; sometimes it’s just harmless fun, not a prelude to romance.
• Major props given to the listener’s evocative storytelling—encouragement to keep writing.

8. Summer Break, Live Show, and Upcoming Projects

• [61:13–END]
• Announcement of a real summer break for the pod, with a long-teased Atlanta live show in the works.
• Patreon members will get pre-sale tickets; more details to come.
• Updates on hosts’ summer projects: Mecca’s acting, writing, multiple podcasts ("Breakover" and "Darling Diaries"); Jamila’s pilot, production work, and music industry projects ("Audi" and more).

  “We have so much. So much to do.” – Jamila [74:48]

• Reflections on career growth, hard work, and not being complacent.

  “I'm on part two now. Like, that was step one, and I feel like step two is fully throwing myself into the gauntlet with gasoline draws on.” – Jamila [68:37]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Hair Color Commitment:
  “That's a blonde that only the God's toughest soldiers can keep up with.” – Jamila [02:44]

• On Celebrity Obsessions:
  “Watching everybody be like, I love Michael Jackson so much. He. I'm like, oh, please, shut up. You. You making fun of him. And if he was alive today, you would be making fun of him.” – Jamila [12:34]

• On Comedy & Roast Culture:
  “I just don't like mediocre black jokes… race jokes can, in fact, be funny because the funniest jokes are rooted in reality… but I'm not laughing at no bullshit, though.” – Mecca [25:26]

• On Internet Morality:
  “Going to jail is quite being held accountable accountability... What do you want me to do? Did you want me to take her to the jail?” – Jamila [18:51]

• On Political Elders Refusing to Retire:
  “Any other career field is not going to allow an 87 year old to actively work and make decisions... Sit the fuck down after 60 something. It's ridiculous and nonsensical.” – Mecca [39:46]

• On Navigating Queer Flirtation:
  “Flirtatious consideration is what you're looking for. And you are not getting that.” – Jamila [59:06]

• On Career Drive:
  “Being complacent would be a huge mistake, for sure.” – Mecca [68:37] “I'm on part two now...step two is fully throwing myself into the gauntlet with gasoline draws on.” – Jamila [68:37]

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Major Timestamps

• 01:06 – 05:47: Hair color chat, Black hair maintenance
• 05:47 – 08:56: John Travolta’s facelift, “Back to Black” celebrities
• 08:56 – 15:21: The Jackson family in pop culture, Michael Jackson stanning
• 15:36 – 23:29: Latoya & Janet Jackson, Black folk & musicals
• 18:47 – 22:33: Accountability drama re: Dominique & TikTok
• 24:44 – 35:50: The Kevin Hart Roast, race jokes in comedy
• 43:00 – 61:13: Spin It: Advice segment on queer flirtation and age gaps
• 61:13 – END: Summer break announcement, live show teaser, hosts’ upcoming projects

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Tone & Style

Unapologetically candid, comedic, and sometimes “unhinged”—Mecca and Jamila blend the intellectual with the irreverent, offering takes that are thoughtful, authentic, and laced with pop culture references, explicit language, and plenty of “Black girl banter.”

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For Listeners

This episode is an ideal primer for new listeners: it’s fun, fast-paced, and touches on everything from hair and identity to celebrity gossip, internet culture, social critique, and frank advice about love and life. The chemistry and humor between Jamila and Mecca are front and center—no topic is off-limits and nothing is too sacred to be made hilarious.

Next Steps:

• If interested in attending the live show (Atlanta), join their Patreon for early access.
• Submissions for the “Spin It” segment remain open for your messiest life situations.

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Connect with the Hosts

• Jamila Bell: @_am.jamila (all platforms), YouTube: Jamila Bell
• Mecca Evans: @meccavelli (all platforms, 2 L's, 2 I's); YouTube: More Please Media

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Transcript

[Mecca]

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[Jamila]

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[Mecca]

And I'm Mecca.

[Jamila]

Well, we were actually just talking about hair color. You guys noticed my hair is black? Yeah, I'm back to black. Shout out to Amy Winehouse, Black gals.

[Mecca]

Oh, good old Amy. That was her album, Back to Black.

[Jamila]

Yeah, actually, I actually have that album, too, on vinyl.

[Mecca]

So not all your business out there, but you just said that you wasn't going to dye your hair no more. No, you don't.

[Jamila]

You don't. Yeah, I really enjoyed that color. It started to kind of fade out, which, I mean, that's just how color is. I am not someone who can like, number one, I can't keep up with color because I just. I just can't. Number two, I just think that my hair is not strong enough for dyes and bleaches and stuff like that. My hair is already very fine and thin and just doing that. Like, my hair was just very dry and I. I am very in tune with my hair. I know what my hair is supposed to feel like. I can tell immediately. Product is like, my hair don't like that. So, yeah, I had to dye it back black. Imma just let it be like this. And if I ever want, like, to try another color, whatever, I'm simply going to get a quick weave or a wig or something, call it a day.

[Mecca]

I mean, that makes sense. I can definitely say as much dyeing and bleach and relaxer and bullshit I was doing with my hair, I really was only doing all of that because it was like this long. I know I could not. My hair is also, like, strong, but not that strong. And it would have definitely broke off really quickly with the. With how platinum. I like that 613 color. I was like, oh, if I.

[Jamila]

That was. That's a blonde that only the God's toughest soldiers can keep up with pain.

[Mecca]

Not every girl can maintain a 613 naturally like that with no additives. Like that's your hair. It will melt off. Yeah, but I wasn't caring cuz it was like. Well, when it melted off, I would just go to the barber shop. Yeah. And I would go to the boy barber shop too. Flirt with the barber a little bit. He would only be charging me $15. I later found out it was since it was such a like naked barber shop. They were in there charging like $100 for cuts. I said, oh, the boys are paying.

[Jamila]

They're paying a lot of prices for a haircut. And it's like no shade to the barbers. Cuz I think that you guys, you know, are talented or whatever. Like obviously it's a craft. But like why are they playing quick weave Prices for every.

[Mecca]

And they get it done every two weeks. Some boys get it done weekly in me.

[Jamila]

I be damn.

[Mecca]

I was going to say with Darrington being out here now and trying to find a barber and then it's like finding a barber. I don't want to say it's more serious than finding a hairstylist. They take it way more seriously. No, I. Because like sometimes they'll push your hairline back like I do. I am seeing up close the woes of having to find a barber because I know this most recent haircut, Darrington

[Jamila]

guy, he really liked.

[Mecca]

He was like, no, no, no. I'm stick with this guy because he did everything perfectly. But the last one, he was like. And then when they get their pushed back too far, they be so sick. It'd be so sad. It's like when you get some bad braids and you just wasted all that time.

[Jamila]

Yeah. A boy woes.

[Mecca]

Boy woes.

[Jamila]

Not many of them.

[Mecca]

Not.

[Jamila]

You know, you only. You only have one or two things to worry about in this life.

[Mecca]

Literally.

[Jamila]

Sometimes I wish I was just making a video about this. Like I wish I could be a boy. Like I wish I could have a penis.

[Mecca]

Not penis envy.

[Jamila]

Just like, just sometimes I think, I think it's more so. Like I just wish that I could pick and choose when I have a coochie. You know what I'm saying? Because I do enjoy having a vagina. It's fun, you know, it's. We have way more nerve endings. We have good times with her. But it's like, you know, I just don't always want you. Like I don't Always want you. Like, the whole period situation is just very inconvenient for me. You know, the whole, how are we taking care of our coochie hair? Is really inconvenient for me. I just feel like no way is the best way. And even if it's the best way, it's still like, you either. It's either really expensive to keep up with, or you just have to keep up with it. Why is there no alopecia pill?

[Mecca]

We wait.

[Jamila]

My God.

[Mecca]

Lasered. I'm in. I'm in a landing strip area.

[Jamila]

Yes. And you have to go and keep getting a laser. Like, I'm tired of going. I'm tired getting things done. The pussy maintenance. I'm tired of all of it. I don't like shaving. I don't like waxing. I haven't tried laser yet, but I feel like I'm gonna not like that either because it's like, it's still gonna hurt a little bit, and then I still have to go back. Yeah, I want to take a alopecia pussy pill and be done with that hoe.

[Mecca]

The thing that I like about laser is it, like, thins the hair out, though. So they said about waxing. Waxing doesn't. Waxing didn't work for me because I'm super prone to ingrown hair. So I was just getting bumps and it sucked. But we actually were literally just talking about this on breakover yesterday when we recorded Men and Gender Affirming Care because I had brought up John Travolta's new hats and his facelift.

[Jamila]

John is pulled. The fuck? He looks good, though.

[Mecca]

No, it looks. I feel like when I made my little ticky talk, people thought I didn't

[Jamila]

think he looked good.

[Mecca]

I'm obsessed. I am obsessed with him. And actually, I need more hats. He's giving what Jack Harlow thinks he's giving.

[Jamila]

Like Jack Harlow is.

[Mecca]

So I want to see every possible from John Travolta. Like, I'm. I'm being so serious because they put

[Jamila]

all that shit in the back. The back of that head. Look like a knot. Look like a ponytail, I bet. Just a ponytail.

[Mecca]

You know that clip that they got of Jermaine because, you know his shit fresh, too, with the cut. I'm sure that's why John put that hat on, because he's seen how they did Jermaine. He said, oh, y' all won't catch me slipping. I'll put that hat on, bring it all the way down. Y' all won't see my scars.

[Jamila]

I Mean, John, he's not new to some work, so I'm sure he's got this down to a science.

[Mecca]

He was getting Botox down.

[Jamila]

John was baby John looks. So I said, damn, nigga, you got Grease. Did you know? He said, and he knew it too. He knew. He said when he did that, I

[Mecca]

said, oh, he's eating. He's taking it. And he had his Greased Lightning fit on with all that black. I said, come on, Danny.

[Jamila]

I've always loved John Travolta too. Like, yeah, like, he's just such a theater kid. He's always just been such a little cutie patootie.

[Mecca]

I live, you know, like, how there are those white celebrities that black people also really much, very much. Like John Travolta falls within the category of like Dolly Parton. Like, black people with John Travolta.

[Jamila]

Yeah. And it's like, you know, Greece was one of those things, like, don't really focus. Like, as in, like black people don't necessarily as a group talking about. Cuz I didn't want y think I was talking about, like, just boys. I was like, just. I feel like black people as a whole don't necessarily with musicals for real. They have their own specific. But Grease is one of those specific musicals with Grease. And. And there's like one more that like kind of Dream Girls. Yep, that's it. Because. And. And so many with Dream Girls that they don't even call it a musical. They don't even realize it.

[Mecca]

Yeah, they often do not. Category. They be calling it Christmas movie.

[Jamila]

And well.

[Mecca]

And well, it is. And the Wiz is Thanksgiving. Mm. Like, but I feel like the Wiz became a Thanksgiving movie because, remember, specifically TV one used to play it on Thanksgiving. Like, I feel like TV1 did see

[Jamila]

that big ass opening scene, where's all the fucking food and everybody like that. It gives like fall vibes. Like, the coloring of it is very, like, folly. So I feel like it just. I don't know, it just. It just works, you know?

[Mecca]

Yeah. Have you been seeing on Twitter, did you see Jafar getting caught up? He wasn't really getting caught up.

[Jamila]

They say he was liking the Brazilian

[Mecca]

girl just like in some girl pictures. And it's just like, Jafar, baby. You know what I feel like? Unless you're a complete Jackson. Stand, stand, stand. And. And it's like you need to know about all the family members. Until this movie, Jafar was not necessarily someone you were checking who he's liking.

[Jamila]

Shit. No.

[Mecca]

And it's only the Stands knew About Jafar. Only the stands know about Jafar. Like, yeah, when they had CPS come for them guns, you had to be. You have to be in deep lore to know some things about Jafar. But my baby, my baby, my baby. You cannot move with that anonymity. No more Jafar.

[Jamila]

You're a list celebrity.

[Mecca]

A list celebrity.

[Jamila]

I just live, like, wow, that's so. I love that the Jacksons keep coming back into, like, mainstream pop culture. Like, the relevancy. And it's been 60 years.

[Mecca]

Truly.

[Jamila]

That is so cool to me. Like, I really. I really, really love that. Six decades of being the most famous family ever. Like, and the next generation and that. Right? And. And the next generation is over.

[Mecca]

They're not going to be black. We'll still support them.

[Jamila]

I mean, there are some blacks in there.

[Mecca]

Ruby's kids for show. I was on Ruby Son, Tito's Taj and them are all married to. To non black women, though they can't.

[Jamila]

But I'm saying his kids are black.

[Mecca]

Oh, no, I was just. No, I'm not talking. I'm talking, like, Jafar is married to, like, a white girl. Like, the next generation, they're going to

[Jamila]

remain the next babies.

[Mecca]

Yeah, the next generation of babies. Like, they're going to be flip Kardashians. Like, they'll be relevant, but they're not going to be black. Except for Ruby's line and Marlon's line and Jackie virus. Because I was watching that interview with Siggy and I said, siggy, he's a down. He is black. Black bliggity black child. But, yeah, Jafar, they was. They was going crazy because he was liking that girl's pictures on Instagram. And I said, oh, my God, Jafar, please. It really isn't that deep. There was that and something else that I seen pertaining to just more Michael fallout. Because, you know, everyone is, like, doing their deep dives right now. So I'm enjoying seeing everyone be kind of obsessed in the way that, like, you are. And I. You got to give to Jamila. She's been constantly obsessed. But I feel like there's stuff that I knew because you've said it over the years, that I'm like, oh, look at everyone finding all of that out at once. It's so funny.

[Jamila]

I made a video about this, too. I was like, a part of me is just so happy. Like, oh, my gosh. Like, now I don't feel like I'm just the oddball out that's just like, overly obsessed with Michael and. And family and, like, I love that everybody is, like, talking about Michael Jackson so much that, like, he has just re. Entered this, like, new. Like, you know, not even a new generation, because it's not even that, like, people are just discovering him, but it's like people are rediscovering their love, family. Exactly.

[Mecca]

And the whole thing.

[Jamila]

There's a part of me that's like, where were y' all in. Oh, six.

[Mecca]

Wait, you were going to tweet? Since when? Everyone loved Michael Jackson, okay, bro. All right, bro.

[Jamila]

Nah, like, y' all don't understand. Like, I used to get made, like, not, like, in a bully situation, but, like, I literally used to get made up fun of so much because I be like, yeah, my favorite artist is Michael Jackson. Everybody be like, what the. Like, you know, everybody. They're new, famous people. And I'm like, I like Michael Jackson.

[Mecca]

I'll get my little Kikis. And I still think it's very. I think Jamila's level of obsession is gonna forever be funny because it's been so consistent. I mean, as long as I've known you. So I would still get a little.

[Jamila]

As long as anybody has. Anybody who has ever known me in life knows that that's always been my number one. And it's just like, I love that. That's, like, a part of my story that makes me so happy. And it's just like, watching everybody be like, I love Michael Jackson so much. He. I'm like, oh, please, shut up. You. You making fun of him. And if he was alive today, you would be making fun of him.

[Mecca]

You would. I'd seen a tweet about that. What I really liked about the movie was, like, my mom went to go see it, and she was like. She came back. She was so excited, like, for people who were alive during that time. Like, that concert in Chicago. She was like, I went to that concert and, like, hearing all, like, hearing. And then seeing across social media, all of his peers, like, geek out and be able to remember exactly what that was that they were showing us, who obviously weren't alive for it. That's the part that I really enjoyed about the movie. Like, watching the OGs and the elders really geek out over it. I was like, oh, my God, you're taking everyone back to a different time. That's so fun.

[Jamila]

I love the. I love that they just really, just really humanized him and just showed his little quirks and, like, just how he was just a person at the end of the day who was, you know, like, he was kid brother to them. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was really the Jackson's brother, though, at the end of the day, like, he just. He was just a guy with two parents who lived at home till he was like, 30. Like, you, like, you know, and like, that's so relatable. And, you know, you know, my baby had that tism down.

[Mecca]

Oh, he, I. I said that a couple years ago, that clip of when Latoya was like, your voice. Or he was like, your voice is so annoying or, you know, you know what clip I'm talking about.

[Jamila]

Like, like he was knocking them knees together. Yeah.

[Mecca]

I and I quoted it and say Michael had autism so bad, and some

[Jamila]

of the stands were, like, mad at me.

[Mecca]

I said, it's like, baby, please.

[Jamila]

It's like the most obvious case of autism. Like, and I don't know how nobody didn't. But I mean, of course, like, you know, we are just.

[Mecca]

We just, we're more accepting of autism. Like, we don't see it as like, it's like, yes, T. Yeah, you cracking your bags.

[Jamila]

But yeah, it's just. I felt like, damn, it's a little tense. Like, what's going on?

[Mecca]

Like, are you sore from working out?

[Jamila]

I've been waking up with. No, I was supposed to work out this morning, but, like, I just didn't feel like it. So I didn't. But I, I don't know. Is it 30? Like, I've been waking up with bruises.

[Mecca]

Yeah, you're almost there.

[Jamila]

I have, bro. I had on my hips, too. I don't know if it's just because I'm so dangerously thick these days. I keep running into. And it'll bruise up immediately. Like, I have. I'm crying big ass bruise on both sides of my hip. I will literally be like, bam. Like, oh, my gosh. I'm just so. Yeah, guys. Yeah. I'm unbelievably thick. That it's just things being my way. What can I say?

[Mecca]

That I also have problems.

[Jamila]

Disgustingly, unbelievably thick. Like, oh, man, I'm sorry. I'd be running into people. Oh, I, I, My bad job. I didn't mean a big old ass of mine. Yeah.

[Mecca]

Last.

[Jamila]

And it's birthday month, so.

[Mecca]

Yeah. To say that last thing I want to say. Everyone going up for Latoya Jackson is so t. Because I watch.

[Jamila]

Cracking me up.

[Mecca]

I watched her quirky show. Like, I remember y' all know Latoya is so. She's so crazy. Latoya, like, and then did you see the tweet? Is Latoya, the first Latoya. And I would think she probably know.

[Jamila]

That was funny. I saw that. I was like, actually, I never. I never thought about that. But I'm like, y' all might be on to something.

[Mecca]

No, she's famous.

[Jamila]

Might be the oldest Latoya in history.

[Mecca]

Yeah, they're famous enough that that wouldn't surprise me, you know, if her name was the first. If they. I want to know. I just learned about, like, Jaylen, the basketball player.

[Jamila]

Yeah, I was gonna say. That's what I was just g to say. Did you. You watch that video? I was like, that was so cool, cuz, like, you don't really think about stuff like that. Like, Jaylen has been such a normal name for us and our generation. But when they showed like, that video about how like, that name was relatively completely not a thing. His mama made that up and combined. That is so crazy.

[Mecca]

His mama said, I'm gonna combine my brother or in his and his daddy name. That's why I want to know. I need someone.

[Jamila]

And it's such a regular name. Like, yeah, it's a good name. Jalen is such such a regular good name.

[Mecca]

I got a cousin named Latoya. She was born in the 80s. That's what I was like. Like, I want. Somebody asked Catherine. I know she probably don't want to hear from us, but can someone ask her if she made that name up, please?

[Jamila]

Yeah, I need to know that because we'll just ask Latoya.

[Mecca]

Ask Latoya.

[Jamila]

Latoya probably knowing Latoya, she'll say yes. Love Latoya.

[Mecca]

That was so silly ass show she had on E. That was so funny. I used to watch all them shows. I really did.

[Jamila]

I loved it.

[Mecca]

All the big old boobies. I think I knew this, but it was brought back to me. The reason Paris Hilton and Paris Jackson have the same name is because Latoya, Michael, Kathy made a pact that they were all going to give their daughters the same name. Latoya just never had no kids. But Michael. Michael stuck with it.

[Jamila]

And never having kids is also one of my favorite things about her. Like I. Her leaving that whooped her ass was the best thing to ever happen. Lord knows she was on a.

[Mecca]

She was on one path, but that's

[Jamila]

a whole other conversation, y'.

[Mecca]

All.

[Jamila]

Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the month of May. The best month of the year. Jamila's birth month.

[Mecca]

I don't know about the best.

[Jamila]

The month is pretty great. It's. It's. It's. It's just a Beautiful time. It's like, wow, May is really like. See, May is like when everybody's graduating. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's really the start of summer. Like every, like leave school, you're graduating. The flowers are at full bloom. Like, the sun is shining. Everybody is making their plans for summertime. And Jamila Bell was born. My God. On today. I mean, speaking of, Dominique gets out soon. Free my sister. Free Dominique. Free Dominique. And let me, let me say this,

[Mecca]

say, listen, they was on your head on Tik Tok.

[Jamila]

Let me say something because I will never give you the time of day on Tik Tok Tock. Y' all are so strange and odd to like, I don't know what this like condition is to try to like create issues that are non issues. I'm not really sure what you guys are thinking in your mind when you make a video claiming that me, I am not holding Dominique accountable for whatever her alleged wrongs are. Let me tell you guys this. I don't know if you guys know this or not. Going to jail is quite being held accountable accountability that A could take. What the do you want me to do? Did you want me to take her to the jail? Did you want, you wanted me to arrest the like, what do y' all want me to do? And what do y' all want me to say? Y' all want me to get online and bash Dominique, somebody that I know and have a relationship with in real life? Is that what y' all want? Or if I, if I was to do that, y' all would be like, oh, so it's like y' all actually don't want anything, which I want is an opportunity to talk about me. And I think that that is so delicious because who said this? I think it was Katt Williams. You need to find out how to get some new haters, bitch. You need to find out how to wake up tomorrow. And that's what I said. Oh my God, I leveled up. I have even more than I had yesterday because the fact that y' all are pulling out y' all asshole is crazy. I'm. And I've, I've seen like I'm, I'm here guys. I see it. I just don't give a fuck.

[Mecca]

I mean, here's the thing. I'm just not going to do Internet games with some shit with a bitch. I got her phone number. Like, it just.

[Jamila]

You know what I mean?

[Mecca]

Simply it. And I, I mean, I'll say I wasn't even liking shit. I wasn't even Commenting on shit. Cause I'm like, listen again. I got the bitch phone number. And when she get out, we gonna discuss them singing videos. Because I had no idea sister was singing down and. And some of them sound the good. I didn't know. Like, I'm always so fascinated when I find out people could sing. Like, you could just do that.

[Jamila]

She was working on an album. Her and. Her and Monroe both seen. They was in the studio when they were. A couple of months ago. They was in the studio there. So I knew my sister was in her.

[Mecca]

When she said she had. She was in a boy band that she created.

[Jamila]

The boy band. Yeah. I was like, I need a documentary on your life, Dominique.

[Mecca]

We need. Yeah, we got to discuss that. Cuz they were posting it as, like, shade. And I don't know, I was living. I was loving every single video people be posting.

[Jamila]

Like, shade. Like, Dominique didn't post it herself. Like, she put it out there, guys. She posted it. Y' all act like y' all went in a phone and found this. Like, everybody's corny and lame, but it's all good. Dominique will be out very soon, and I hope she can make it to my birthday party. Really make you mad. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't like this. This moral complex that a lot of people have. They're very excited to, like, seem like they're better than other people. Like, you know, even, you know, whatever she may or may not have done. Because I'm not going to speak on, you know, her, you know, behalf, because I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't know. And I actually don't care enough to even figure it out. How about that?

[Mecca]

I was trying to figure it out. I just feel like you guys are this my thing. Like you said, going to jail is a maximum amount of accountability that one can have. If that lady go in like, she did starve her time and come back out, what the fuck do you want me to do? She done did her time. She served her shit like the law says she supposed to do, and now she gets to reintegrate back into society after 21 days. Girl, I. What do y' all want?

[Jamila]

Like, God damn.

[Mecca]

What's that meme that Jelani always used where it's Patrick farting? Like, that's how I felt about every. Like, just fart. I don't. Girl, please.

[Jamila]

I don't care.

[Mecca]

Babes. My sister Dominique shout out to Dominique for sure. What else? I feel like there was just casually so much oh, back to the Jacksons. Janet turned 60. Did you see the clip of Johnny Gill at her party? Yes. And I was. All the quote tweets were just sending me so bad. So my favorite was, I love how he's leaning into it in his older age, girl.

[Jamila]

I said, yes, Johnny. Yeah, I love that. I had a great time. She just looks so cute. And I'm like, oh, like, Janet is 60 and she's the baby of the Jacksons. Like, that's a crazy. Like, that's crazy.

[Mecca]

And she's been famous her whole life, essentially.

[Jamila]

She was such a baby.

[Mecca]

Sure.

[Jamila]

She was a child star.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

I live. She looked so cute. That looked like a fun ass party shit. I wish I was there. But, yeah, like, that was fun.

[Mecca]

I just feel like Latoya made her put that sash on that just had Latoya.

[Jamila]

Latoya put every last bit of decoration in that house that said I'm 60 that they were trying to blur out. I'm like, I. This is nothing. But Latoya, this is.

[Mecca]

This is her.

[Jamila]

We're her little cute self. She's so tiny with them big old boobies.

[Mecca]

Yeah, she is very skinny. Me, as I was watching this one clip where Janet was like, yeah. Latoya told me she knew I was always gonna have weight issues.

[Jamila]

I said, damn.

[Mecca]

But it's like, I was just talking

[Jamila]

about this talk, like, it's such a sister thing.

[Mecca]

Like, I was gonna say, like, they're. They're just so famous, so we get to see it play out. But, like, these people's sibling dynamics are so similar to, like, everyone's sibling dynamics, because that's only something your sister would say to you and be dead the fuck and not expect you to get mad. Like, this is. We're simply having a conversation. Like, oh, yeah, I knew you.

[Jamila]

And then it's like, that's her older sister. Like, so it's older by a minute.

[Mecca]

Like, like, they're 10 years apart.

[Jamila]

Yeah. No.

[Mecca]

When you was a kid and y' all was watching you eat, I knew you was gonna be thick, girl. I already knew.

[Jamila]

It's just crazy.

[Mecca]

Like. Yeah.

[Jamila]

How did you feel about the Kevin Hart roast?

[Mecca]

Um, shout out to Cheryl Underwood. I felt like she was amazing during it. I liked, obviously, Katt Williams. Y' all know I'm a Katt Williams. Stanley. I just don't like mediocre black jokes. Like, that's the thing. I'm not even. And I said this across social media. I said, I'm not super strict on the race jokes. I think that race jokes can, in fact, be funny because the funniest jokes are rooted in reality, and race is a part of our everyday reality. I'm not laughing at no bullshit, though, and I don't give sympathy laughs. I didn't think any of them jokes was funny.

[Jamila]

Yeah, Roasts are interesting to me because it's like, I really hate. What. One thing I really hate is when you say something like, hey, oh, I didn't like that jock, and think it was funny. And then people be like, oh, you're just too sensitive. It's like, no, like, you actually don't get it.

[Mecca]

Like, I.

[Jamila]

One thing about me. God, I love a nasty joke. A nasty, dark.

[Mecca]

Like how we just sat here and said, it's funny. As that latoya told Janet, I knew

[Jamila]

you was gonna have weight issues.

[Mecca]

Like, you see what I'm saying? Like, you don't have to be the nicest. The joke content doesn't have to be the nicest content or contacts.

[Jamila]

For me, it was just. It was. It was a lack of creativity. Yeah. And I. I enjoy a race play joke. I enjoy. Honestly, me and Mel was talking about this too. I was like, I actually didn't mind the dead husband jokes because I think that that was a very personal dig. Because for me, when you're doing a roast, it's one thing to be like, okay, obviously, we're going at Kevin. So, you know, Kevin, you're short. How short is he? We're gonna tell you how short he is. Kevin cheated on his wife. These are things that we can poke fun of. Yeah. Kevin does a lot of movies, and a lot of them kind of aren't that good. You know what I'm saying? These are direct things about Kevin. Cheryl Underwood, you're going at her like, her husband died, like, and if she's okay with it, then that is same. Same deal with Pete Davidson. His Daddy died in 911 there. He's gonna make fun of that himself. And so it gives the green light. I don't mind very specific jokes, even if it is kind of dark and twisty, because dead, dead people isn't always, like, a red line for people. And that's not necessarily a red line for me. Right. For me, the race jokes are uncreative, especially in a roast, because it's like, you're supposed to be roasting these people for the things that. That they're attributed to you saying, you're a dark black, you're dark black. You're dark black is like, just for everybody. Like, there's a lot of dark black people in the world, right? Like you're talking about just dark skinned people but then it's like it's an elementary joke. It's not even a read. It's not even like it's, it's not creative. You didn't think about it, I can tell you. You genuinely just feel like it's funny to be dark skinned and that to me it's just not funny. Not even because of like the, of course we can get into the cultural relevance of why it's not funny but it's also legitimately not funny.

[Mecca]

It's not funny.

[Jamila]

Just being dark skinned isn't funny. Somebody just being light skinned isn't funny. Somebody just being white isn't funny. Why is it being white funny? You know what I'm saying? Like you're just not taking me there. Oh my gosh. We have like I want to play how to go sequence you because if we turn the light like nobody can see you.

[Mecca]

Do you remember in college because I, I saw like when I was watching it and I was thinking could this black joke have been made funny? Do you remember in college when Shorty who was dark skinned, one of the girls we knew was telling us a story and she was saying when she was in elementary school there was a little white boy at her school. They used to like just kind of play with each other and the school served chocolate cake at one point in time and the little white boy pointed at the chocolate cake and said that's your, that's your mom. Like it was just so stupid and silly and they were just pointing at like food that coincided with the color. So she pointed at the milk and was saying that's your dad. And I felt like obviously the way she told it, she set it up. I remember fucking dying laughing. But even in that moment I said that was so funny because it's a piece of chocolate cake. It's so fucking dumb. But to your point about how you were saying why is this funny? Because it's a piece of chocolate cake and this is nonsensical. Do you see what I'm saying? Like the fact that a child was able to construct a better dark skinned joke than a grown ass man. That's the point. That's the point.

[Jamila]

Yeah, it was just, it was like so it was lazy. And then on top of that the who were saying those jokes specifically the Tony and the Shane are known Republicans and conservatives and maga. So it's like this isn't a joke coming from a place of Endearment. This is a joke coming from a place of racism because y' all are actually racist. It's a difference if now it's still wrong and it's still a little like, all right. But it's different coming from your own community. Right? So if I make a black joke now, I wouldn't make a dark skinned joke for obvious reasons because there's a, there's a power dynamic there. But if I make a black joke, right, A joke, a racist joke rooted in the systemic racism of black people, it's going to be funny because I understand the nuance of it.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

And so I can talk directly to my people versus a nigga who legitimately thinks less of our people saying, you're so short and that when they lynch you, they're going to have to lynch you from a bonsai tree.

[Mecca]

Odd, perplexed. When.

[Jamila]

What are we talking about? When it's time for you to get lynch.

[Mecca]

Wait, wait, now, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[Jamila]

And then using very direct, because. Because if you wanted to make that joke fly, right? If you wanted to like really kind of use that type of setup for the joke, you could have easily said, Kevin Hart is so short that if he wanted to hang himself, he would have to do it from Bozak. You could have, you could have changed the joke and you could have said, when you kill yourself, you know what I'm saying? Like, you could have had the same punchline of him so short, he has to use this. But you specifically went out of your way to add lynching to it and saying, when they lynch your black ass nigger, you're gonna have to do it for a bonsai tree. That's like, okay, I guess

[Mecca]

this is odd.

[Jamila]

And so now you're just. You're relying on the shock factor and not on the funny. You didn't get laughs. You got gasps and woes. Yeah, I don't know.

[Mecca]

Yeah, Lame. I wasn't a fan.

[Jamila]

You're not funny. Well, yeah, I mean, people like the shop Chelsea ate.

[Mecca]

Now, Chelsea, let me tell you something. Chelsea, Chelsea Handler is funny as fuck. And truly is. Like, she is hilarious. I used to watch Chelsea lately on E. I just said, I've watched everything on E. But she had that talk show on E. I used to watch that. Her 50 cent character arc when she was literally for real dating him was insane and hilarious as fuck. I just really think that lady's funny. And that's why I'm saying this. I be thinking why people are funny. Like Caleb Heron, also funny as Fuck funny as fuck. Like, it's not a matter of like, I don't want to laugh at a white comedian's joke. Even Caleb Heron, I have said this on TikTok. I've heard him make black jokes. But they were like, it's like.

[Jamila]

And you can tell you have black friends.

[Mecca]

Yeah, it was like an observation. Like, he was taught. He said, like, it's an observation about, I saw my friend do this and I was like, huh, we don't do that.

[Jamila]

And that is funny, right? Because you are. It's. It's more. So I am talking about experiences that I've had with black. We'll laugh at those versus just stating the obvious of we're so black. We're so black.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Guys, you know, experience racism. Remember you guys used to get lynched.

[Mecca]

Oh, yeah. I felt like this really made me dig into my bank. I know I told the story about the girl and then with Caleb, I was dead ass thinking of every. Every time I heard the black joke from someone who's not black. And when I thought it was funny. And it's been a handful of times, but it was very specific. Like, do you see what I'm saying? It was very like what we're talking about.

[Jamila]

Let me tell you how crazy them jokes was. I heard a very similar joke when I was growing up in high school. This cracker and the kill. I can't even remember this name. This said, what do monkeys and black people have in common already? Crazy setup. And he said, they both hang from trees. That's the type of they said at that roast. And then when you say, hey, that wasn't funny. And it was also kind of like really offensive and weird as to say, especially knowing that you don't like. Then you get told you're sensitive. You've never seen the roast before. You don't understand how roast work. No ass. I know how roast work and that's why I'm telling you it's not a funny ass joke. I was just at D.C. young flies rose for his birthday that was hosted by 85 South. That was a roast. Them was absolutely making fun of his ass. They was definitely coming for this. But they also had close relationships with him. It was people from his childhood. It was people from the 85 south show. And they were telling real authentic, true stories, but also talking about him as a person. And it was. When I tell you we were dying laughing because it was that much funnier because they're going directly at him as a person. Right. And the things that make it funny. But they're also telling stories. What happened to telling stories in Rose? That's also part of Roast, too. Like, it's not just like, you ugly nigga. You ugly fat, black.

[Mecca]

Well, the point of Roast is that it's supposed to be your people or people who are fans of you, if you ever know. That's why even Cat Williams getting up there and saying, we're arch nemesis. Like, there was even a level of

[Jamila]

familiarity there with a roast, and that's why it was funny. Because it's like, aha.

[Mecca]

Like, because, I mean, if you grew up watching the Comedy Central roast that they did, like, I. I also like a good roast. Like, it is what it is. But I do think what makes Roast the best is when it's people who really either for real hate you or for real know you or are actual known fans of you or at least familiar.

[Jamila]

Yeah, familiar.

[Mecca]

Yeah. They might not be, like, you know, in your close circle, but they've publicly said, like, oh, I fuck with him. That's why there was, like, a lot of people on that stage who I felt like, okay, they're fans of Kevin Hart. But then I didn't really. I felt like that was also missing from that. Again, I don't know how close he is to each person, but I do feel like that, at least back when I used to watch the Comedy Central Roast, there was a level of such familiarity there. Like, they would be like, oh, we came up doing comedy. Get like, they would, like you said, set up and tell a story and let us know how they knew this person and then get to whacking them on the head.

[Jamila]

Exactly, exactly, exactly. You girls just have to do better. I fear you guys don't really understand what's going on, and then maybe for the next roast, you guys will take heed, but I, you know, probably not, because you guys like the shock value. Because I'm. I. I promise you, those numbers are going up.

[Mecca]

Yeah, it was number one on anyway. Yeah, it was number one on Netflix, though, as of a couple.

[Jamila]

What I also hate. Oh, my God, I hate when white comedians do this thing where it's like, we can't do anything. You actually can, and you keep doing it. You guys can actually do whatever the you want to do. Nothing is going to happen, y', all, just because we get on here and say them lame ass fucking jokes. You crack ass cracker. We're not fucking funny. Nothing happened to you. The special is still up. You're going to get your own special. Your fans are still There. You're still getting your money. Nothing is happening to you. We are just talking shit about you, and we're going to keep talking shit. If you can get up there and say, you black bitch monkey. Random fucking jigaboo ass lynch monkey. Guess what I can say. You crack ass cracker. You're not fucking funny and you don't season your food. Shout out to the first amendment, bitch.

[Mecca]

You know, if we're saying jokes that are just. You don't season your food. You can't dance like.

[Jamila]

Like the fuck what y' all want to do. Go slur for slur Like, I don't like wet dog.

[Mecca]

We could go slurp or slurp.

[Jamila]

What do you want to do? What do you want to. I'm that type of. Because one thing about me. One thing about me. Let me tell you something. If I was, you know, say me and Kevin Hart were friends.

[Mecca]

Age like milk.

[Jamila]

And I was sitting on that goddamn couch and I had my jokes prepared, but then them got up to going, I would have been like, oh, let me rewrite this. I would pull my phone up and I would have rewrote every joke, and I would have been on a ass. Y' all ain't finna sit up here and talk about this. That.

[Mecca]

Now, hold on. Wait a minute now. Wait.

[Jamila]

And then I'm like, cause, please, I know you gotta pre approve these jokes, but ass this live tv. Oh, this camera on me. Yeah, I would have acted a fool. Yeah. I would have got up there and cut the up. Okay, Glink, glink, glink. Had all that ass would have gone straight Paul.

[Mecca]

Yup. 9.

[Jamila]

That would have reminded y' all of that roast with Jamie Foxx. And he was like, I need to sit my ass down. This joke did not fly. That is so funny.

[Mecca]

That's how that poor man. He's done an interview about how that ruined.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

How that ruined his career. It makes me sad. Memorial Day in Los Vasicos parelo gar pomenos ahoro centadolares en la parria gas de cuatro que madores Char Royal Performance Series. But Jamie was funny. As for that. Sorry.

[Jamila]

Got to be the funniest on stage.

[Mecca]

Well,

[Jamila]

What else has been going on,

[Mecca]

child? Should I check the shade room?

[Jamila]

Shade room is crazy. Ain't no telling what you're gonna see on there.

[Mecca]

You see every. You know, they got into a shade room. And then TMZ has their DC politics that they're doing right now. The Maxine Waters can. I'm gonna go on A rant. I get some so upset. I said, girl, politicians who refuse to retire. It's an issue with both black and white politicians. The way y' all be 90 something years old and decrepit, still refusing to pass the torch. You could have mentored four different generations of women to come up under you and take your spot. That's the reason the Supreme Court is now. Because Ruth would not sit her old cancerous ass down. And we cannot appreciate 170 years old. We can't even appreciate, appreciate the doors you have opened because you've left us. Because you will not retire. Any other career field is not going to allow an 87 year old to actively work and make decisions. They're going to say sit the down after 60 something. It's ridiculous and nonsensical. Mitch McConnell, I don't even know how he's still alive. I don't know he's alive.

[Jamila]

Pray for his downfall.

[Mecca]

Nancy Pelosi, she's sitting up there, she done got seven facelifts. You still look 100 years old.

[Jamila]

Oh, Biden, they pulled the fucking cabinet.

[Mecca]

Needs to go like they don't pull Joe so tight. We don't know what expression he giving us. He's looked confused all the goddamn time. Donald Trump just looks like a sack of potatoes with a bad spray tan. It enrages me, actually. It brings rage up in here.

[Jamila]

I hate politicians so bad. And something that I really hate about us as a community, we coddle the politicians that we have a soft spot for, for whatever reasons. And I want to tell y' all this, you shouldn't have a soft spot for a politician, period. All of them are shiesty manipulator liars. They are in politics, being in politics. A part of this bureaucracy is shiesty business, right? Yes. There are some politicians who are, you know, trying to do good work. And while they're trying to do good work, you gotta play the game like this, but up if you want to. You should be doing good work. This you are a servant of us. You should not be like. We should not be like, wow, they're so good. And now I'm gonna become a stand of them and I'm gonna love as if they are a celebrity. They are public servants. They are here so that we can survive them. Need to get to work. They are so hell bent on being popular Democrats. I'm talking about y' all asses, okay? Y' all are so hell bent on being popular that y' all are making horrible decisions because all of y' all should have been together and told Maxine to sit her old ass down years ago. But y' all want to be like, respect our elders. We love Maxine because she. Because she be saying some good stuff. And she. I don't give a. I don't care.

[Mecca]

It's annoying.

[Jamila]

Reclaiming my time. Y' all think that can stay in office all her life? No.

[Mecca]

No.

[Jamila]

And if you don't have fresh new ideas that reflect the times and the people and your constituents, you're not getting voted on. I don't care how cute you are. I don't care how cool you think you are. I don't give a about none of that. What are the policies? What are the policies? And I'm really looking at a lot of y' all sideways because Mandami been in that for 30 days and have done as much as he can. And it's showing y' all just how much y' all actually can do.

[Mecca]

He's moving, so I don't want to

[Jamila]

hear a ass thing else. Shut up. Yeah, but I've been telling y' all that these are using excuses. Oh, we can't cause this. No, you can't. Cause you're a. Mm. You're scared of them Republicans and you don't want to lose on that pack money. I pulled y' all cards. Y' all ain't worth a damn. Y' all ain't worth a damn. Y' all sit the down. Let me know when y' all ready to do some real work out of here.

[Mecca]

You're not wrong.

[Jamila]

You wanna pissing me the hell off?

[Mecca]

Spin it with that.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Okay.

[Mecca]

Welcome to our segment. Spin it. This is where you send Jamila and I your nasty, lowdown, gutter snipe situations where we give you some advice and a bit of a PR spin. Now, keep in mind, Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We were just communication girlies in undergrad. Be sure to email email at unhinged anymore pod gmail.com. if you would like us to read your letter, include your height, your gender, your sexual orientation, your political affiliations. If you're a man, you do need to include your height. Jamila, what do we have this week?

[Jamila]

Oh, you guys love long letters. Here we go.

[Mecca]

I kind of live for it.

[Jamila]

Hey, Jamila, right? Y' all be giving the details?

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Hey, Jimmy Lamecca. I've been a day one listener of the pod. I look forward to you both laughing and Kiki every Thursday morning as I get ready. Congrats to you all. I wish you more Success unto you. Before we start, I like to list the active characters. Come on now. The way no one gets confused later on we have me. 18 will be 19 in August. Queer. We have Jay, who is 19 white Brazilian gay male. It who is 21. Blasian lesbian. My God, what a crew.

[Mecca]

So many things.

[Jamila]

Let me restate it because I need to. Let me reset for my brain.

[Mecca]

Malaysian lesbian who.

[Jamila]

See, you already messed it up. That's why I need to restay it. You are a black queer. A is a white Brazilian gay male. Sid is a Blasian lesbian in 21. Okay, great. Let's go.

[Mecca]

I think I've. I think I've retained that information.

[Jamila]

Okay. Boom. In October 2025, my friend Jay introduced me to someone he met working in a ceramic studio at our college. We're going to call her Sid. Sid is very visibly lesbian. The piercings and such being the cherry on top. He thought it would be good because in his eyes were pretty similar. According to him, we have the same urge to go on long tangents about niche topics. We're interested in our listeners of the same art and give similar queer vibe. After meeting her, I low key treat it as one and done type of thing. Paying no mind to the person I just met until this past January when Jay told me that they applied to the same program and I did at the local arts non profit. At the time I wasn't really interested in anything, just adjusting to college life in my classes. We both ended up getting in, which was a huge deal since they had a limited space. The cohort was intended for 10 to 12 artists, but they ended up letting 19 of us in. Our program was mainly focused on photography and storytelling. Our second. Our second time meeting in February happened to be a photo walk in the LA area. While we're also celebrating the third anniversary of the museum connected to the non profit there. Sid and I took some photos at the photo booth and digitized version was into her phone. She asked for my number and sent me the pictures. I thought nothing of this because again, I'm not really looking for anything on her end. I'm guessing she was plotting. Also I'd like to add that she didn't know my age at this point, but she mentioned that she recently had a birthday. The next couple of meetings all led up to the overnight trip of overnight trip that our cohort took to Santa Cruz and the Bay area. We arrived April 17th to UC Santa Cruz, take a tour of the university and then were given free time from 6:30 to 10 to explore the city. Since we're both from prospective transfer students, since we're both prospective transfer students from community college, we asked about the anthropology and arts department respectively. After the tour, Sid was a bit tiffy, a bit iffy since they didn't have the active ceramic department. But me, I enjoyed it thoroughly. The campus was. The campus has a very down to earth vibe, which was a nice culture shock from being from la. I was hiking all through the school. School. All through that school. And my Birkenst. Just a true banana slug wood.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila]

Yeah. It was finally time to go explore to Santa Cruz. The city had to offer. I figured since Sid and I, along with four others were going to watch the sunset on the beach, we should get some edibles. Truly appreciate it, you know. We walk a mile from our hotel to the dispensary, Sid gets the gummies and we take a five minute Uber to the boardwalk. I'd like to mention that there's another person with Sid and I at this point. Point it's Sid and I at this point. But she's not relevant so it she doesn't get a name.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila]

You love a detail, baby. The gummies contain about 5 milligrams each. I take half. Half of one before we get into the Uber. And then the other one and then the other whole while. Sorry, somebody was calling me. And then the other half when before we get into the Uber. And then a whole other one while we on the beach. In total, 7.5 milligrams, which is a lot for someone who has been sober since 2025. December 2020 goes to see what the water is like. Sig goes to see what the water is like. While we wait for the three others we have plans with the other three take too long for our liking. So we walk up to the pier to see what food options they have to offer on the pier. Y' all. So long winded. On the pier is where the Eddie starts to kick in. For me. It's nothing crazy, it's just that I can feel my soul separate from my body. Similar to how Peter Pan has a detachable shadow. It's also where we start to look at. I start to look at Sid differently. We find the three others. As we continue walking along the pier, the munchies start to come in. So we find a place to eat. All of the spots are 12 of a price. Two don't have enough variety. Or three have a long line, particularly white people. So you know the food is not gonna be that great. Two of the Four go inside to this one Italian American place while Sid and I stay outside. A breeze passes and I could smell the mix of bergamot and jasmine as the wind blew from me, from her to me. Baby, you need to write a book.

[Mecca]

She's an artist.

[Jamila]

Like, I am literally envisualizing all of these things.

[Mecca]

I'm like, I got it. I see you guys. I know what's happening now.

[Jamila]

What happened, girl?

[Mecca]

You done set it up so great.

[Jamila]

She turns over and asks if I'm okay and I tell her that I am. Mind you, I'm visibly high and cold as because I was wearing shorts and it's 55 degrees. The girls finally get their food and Sis says, let's go for a walk. With this flirtatious look to her. And since the edge got me the sense that Eddie got me going, I'm all for it. We split from the rest of the group and headed to the Pacific Ave. Towards downtown. Everything was going well until one person decided to come with us. Originally it was supposed to be from a portion of us. For what? Originally it was supposed to be for a portion of the way she wanted to grab a drink at the corner store just across from where we were at the time. A sign on the door. A sign on the store caught my eye. I thought Big Orange started up a beer company. In reality it was an LED sign for trimmer beer. I guess the person caught on to just how high I was and decided to just stay to make sure I was safe. She should have left me to continue my little lesbian fantasies with a fine little cougar. But I understand the concern. 100. I spot Sid had us. I spot Sid. The spot Sid had us at turned out to be a bar. But we lowkey should have known. From the pool table and off and off to the side, Sid and the other person give the bounce of their IDs without second thought. And I was at. I was left at the door. Since I'm only 18. Ouch. Oof. When they turn around, both of them saw me smile at them awkwardly and immediately apologize. After that, we got five guys and went back to the hotel. I had a really intense dream that night about Sid and what could have been attributed to the drugs. But I would say it's more of a revelation. This was my first time that I allowed myself to be open many times before. I would get the hurt in the process because I fell for a straight woman. But at the point where I was, there was no need for me to become cautious and have my wall the Rest of the trip was pretty tame. Having a very brief stolen moment with Sid, but nothing substantial. Not like this. The first night, about two weeks after the 17th, Sid comes to the studio to work on their pieces. I have no real reason for being there other than socializing. To socialize. And that's exactly what I do. We talk for the first time for real and share our thoughts on the trip. On that day, we just so happened to have the same outfit on. You know, typical lesbian attire. I accidentally cut myself with one tool. One of the tools. And she comes to comes with me to see the professional about some bandages. The professor. The professor about some bandages. We end up having to go to the art department head, where Sid asked the head if she has anything to help with my boo Boo. In my head I'm like, boo Boo girl, we're too old for that. But I don't say anything until we leave. Once we're back to the studio, I bring it up to her. She's saying she has to stop infantilizing me because first it was at the bar situation, now this. Playfully, of course. She apologizes and then ask if. If I like when people call me baby again with a flirtatious look. I match her look and tell her yes. But also we have to chill. Mainly because we're in a group setting, but also because my magic. Because my magic hat. My magic hat has a couple of rabbits itching to come out. And I wasn't really equipped for all of it. The conversation then moves from that to plans about camping trip up north. Again, some very lesbian ass shit. I understand that this is probably long winded, but I'll cut the story there. What I'm asking you both as if I should take her up on that camping trip offer or if this seems predatory given my age. I really am starting to like her. But I don't want there to be any malicious intent behind what she feels. Help me spend this mechanismela. Well, baby girl. Baby, you need a subscription. Writing. That was really good writing. And I probably it up here and there because, you know, my eyes start to cross when I'm, you know, you know. But that was really good writing. It was very descriptive. I was, I was thoroughly walking with you guys in the pier.

[Mecca]

I literally felt. When you didn't get into the club and they walked, I said, oh my

[Jamila]

God, I saw it. I, I.

[Mecca]

And they turned around and they said, oh, we forgot. I'm sorry. We didn't even think about it.

[Jamila]

You and because you're such a good writer, I know you're probably such an intense lover. You're probably so like, because, you know, writing ass get. You get really like, you know, in tune with your emotions and your feelings. You know, as a writing myself, I know you just, you love for a fancy, you live for fantasy. And I think what's, I think what's happening is you are living for the fantasy of it all. Because the way you wrote it, you made it feel so like, wow, this is good. Live that story. However, Sister, 18 and 21, I do think that she sees you as the 18 year old cute girl who was just like, you know, along for the ride.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

I think that knowing how lesbians get down, I do think that if she was interested in you, you would know it this the way that, you know, there is like this flirtatious element. I'm not saying that she's not into you at all, but I'm saying she probably is not looking at you in that way because you're 18 and she's probably just, just. She's probably just not interested.

[Mecca]

Formally serious.

[Jamila]

Yeah, I think that like what I don't want to happen is I don't want you to take these cues as I like you cues when they could just be like, you're cool, we could be friends cues because then you're gonna really be up in your head. So I think what you should do is like in some way, shape or form, maybe ask your, your other friend Jay, since that's like your mutual friend. Like, what's up with her? Like, because I'm getting missed signals. Like, I don't know, like it gives. Like she trying to me, like she want to hang with a bad bitch, but like I can't really, I'm not like, I can't check her attention. Like, what do you think? Because what I don't want you to do is I don't want you to up a potential friend too. Because it seems like even if y' all are not likey, like, y' all can still be cool. So ask Jay. That's my, my advice. You'd be to ask Jay what her vibe is. Like, you know, you think she.

[Mecca]

Do you think it's predatory or whatever? Because that was one of the specific questions. Do you think that age difference is predatory?

[Jamila]

It's shaky.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say. Listen, I, as a freshman in college,

[Jamila]

I do know that within the queer community that happens a lot, but not even though. So I don't know. That's a different. There's different dynamics in play.

[Mecca]

You know, transparently, I was a Freshman. I lost my virginity to a senior who was 21 and I was 18 or you know, 19 going on. And he was going on 22. And it's like when you're in a place where you know that, that, that that specific three year age gap, the 18 to 21 that means y' all are dead. The in school together definitely in different places and definitely can be predatory. Absolutely can.

[Jamila]

Yeah. It definitely can be.

[Mecca]

I wouldn't necessarily call every single situation predatory but it definitely can be. I just want to, I just. Since that was the question, I do want to just ask and I get, I get what you're asking. I think Jamila gave you some real sound advice and I also agree with the fact that I don't. I think that she sees you as again the 18 year old like girl this young. We just flirt. I don't think she's trying to really date you. But also when you're in college like you are and the fresh 18 year old from high school you see these people who are. Even though it's only a 23 year age difference, they give so grown and sexy.

[Jamila]

Yeah. It's still different because they, because then there's things that they can do that you can't once.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

When there's that those age limit things like the 21 versus 18 is drastically different because it's like for one you still have teenager. You're still a teenager, right?

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

And this person can't legally drink. They can go places that you can't go to it. It drastically changes the dynamic because you're. You can see, see directly the effects of yalls age difference versus like if you're 21 and someone's 25. It's like yes, the age difference is there and like there's definitely a. It's. Those two are different ages. But like we can all do the same things for the most part. So sometimes you don't feel it and see it as much. You gonna feel and see that a lot.

[Mecca]

Yeah. And so her, her trying to sun you essentially. I don't want to say get used to it but that is going to be a thing when you run into people because again to Jamila's point there is a clear age difference there. And I do think that her being 21 is part of the reason why you're having this like fantasy in your head. Because what was the thing that Jabil and I have talked about? Oh my God. He has a car, he has an apartment, he has all these things that I don't have. Because I am literally 18, fresh from my mother's bosom.

[Jamila]

Sounds good.

[Mecca]

Looks good.

[Jamila]

You know, can I say this, sister? If she liked you even just a smidge, if it was just a crush, she wouldn't have went into that club and left you out there.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

That was the most little sis she could be. We'll be right back. Don't worry about if she likes you. She would have been like, nah, like, let's. And that doesn't mean she's a bad person. Yeah. It just means that, like, I do not think that she sees you in that way, because she absolutely said, baby, I'll be right back. You could. You be all right. And that's some. That I would do to Jelani.

[Mecca]

Absolutely. I think I did that to. I literally did that to Darrington yesterday at the club. I said, we about to go do a lap.

[Jamila]

Bye. Like. Like, yeah, like. But if it's somebody like you, You. You try. You feeling. You want them to know that you feeling them. Yeah. You're gonna do stuff that shows that. And a way that she could have done that would have been like, oh, like, let me wait out here with you while they go get a drink.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Or do you want some? Or, like, you want to drink? Like, I'll bring you one back. Like, that's. That's the type of you do. Like, not just, I'll be all right back. You be all right. Like, nah. Yeah, you got those. Those. That extra level of consideration with flirting. Sex appeal to it. That's what you're looking for. So if you're ever confused, flirtatious consideration is what you're looking for. And you are not getting that. You're getting a little bit of flirtations. But it could just because she's a flirty. Some people are just naturally flirty, and it don't even mean nothing about it.

[Mecca]

Are they them blazing? It gives flirty.

[Jamila]

Oh, baby.

[Mecca]

It gives flirt.

[Jamila]

Good luck.

[Mecca]

And the thing about just to swerve left right quick. I think that people need to delve more deeply into the art of flirtation, because so often people are getting flirted with and, you know, y' all write these letters and, like, do they like me? Do they not? I think they just be flirting with y'.

[Jamila]

All.

[Mecca]

And sometimes flirting, harmless flirting, is just a thing that don't mean they want to take it to the next level. Like, yeah, they just getting their rocks off in that moment. And I know a thing or two about that. I'm not gonna lie. I do love a little flirty flirt Flirting is so fun.

[Jamila]

Yep, it is.

[Mecca]

To your point, sister, like you. You wrote that descriptive ass essay. You made us feel how fun the flirting was. Yep.

[Jamila]

You'll be all right, though. You so young and Tinderoni. 18 and you're into this. You're in a art school cohort.

[Mecca]

My best friend.

[Jamila]

Your future is bright. Your future is bright.

[Mecca]

My best friend from high school went to UC Santa Cruz. You're in the right spot, babes. That's.

[Jamila]

You're gonna love a blast. And you're gonna be filled and you're

[Mecca]

gonna be hiking and on that beach. It's a very hippie dippy school, especially. You said you're from LA and it has a more down to earth vibe. You're gonna love it if you liked it off the first dribble, like, yeah,

[Jamila]

yeah, you're gonna have a good time. And. And like, like we said, you should absolutely think about writing more. I think that you have a skill and. And writing. Writing is a skill like that. Like you.

[Mecca]

It is you.

[Jamila]

You got that. That was. That was beautiful.

[Mecca]

That was beautiful.

[Jamila]

Beautiful letter. I'm glad that we. I'm glad that we read that.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Good luck to you. Good sister. Good luck.

[Mecca]

Good luck to you.

[Jamila]

Fly free, butterfly. Fly free. Well, well, y', all, we have some news.

[Mecca]

Just a little something.

[Jamila]

Okay, guys, so y' all know we have teased and edged you guys this entire time about, you know, what are we gonna do about a live show or tour or this or that. It's just like, we keep just edging and edging and like, ah, we are actively in preparation for a live show. Yeah, like, for real this time, y'. All.

[Mecca]

Before, we hadn't even done nothing. We were just saying.

[Jamila]

We was just talking. We was just.

[Mecca]

We have stuff has been started to get done for it. So it's like a little different. Like, we're dead the this time, you guys.

[Jamila]

The only thing we don't have, of course we don't have the concrete details as far as timing everything, but that we are actively in process. So give us some time to actually get the. The concrete stuff. But we've already been communications and with a venue, we are literally. The only thing we're waiting on right now is waiting on the venue to get back with us. As far as the availability dates, we're going to choose a date and then we're going to start the marketing and promo stuff. So you guys are. Who are listening right now? You're hearing it first. We are absolutely doing a live show. It's going to be here in Atlanta,

[Mecca]

Patreon type of situation. Patreon members get first dibs at tickets, the pre sale.

[Jamila]

Pre sale, all the things.

[Mecca]

And in addition to it being summer, I know you guys have been noticing how busy Jamila and I are, and we've been saying that we're gonna go on a break for every time I feel like we're gonna do a thing. And then we never do, like, Thanksgiving break, winter break, New Year's break. And then January was supposed to be a break, and then we just didn't. So we're actually dead. The gonna go on a break this time, y'. All. We're gonna do a summer break. We're gonna take the time. We're still gonna do all the stuff that we had, like, planned previously. We're gonna plan the live show and see y' all at the live show. Because I'm really excited about that.

[Jamila]

Yeah, it's gonna be really fun. I can't. I was thinking of some just, like, things that we can do for the actual, like, live portion of it, because obviously, like, listening to a podcast, you know, while you're doing your duties is different than going to a live show. So we want it to be very entertaining. So just. Just trust us, us in knowing that we are putting our big girl panties on. Well, maybe not Mecca, because, you know, she's panty list. I'm not wearing it. But we are definitely about to, you know, make sure this is going to be a very entertaining and fun show. Of course we'll have meet and greets available and all the things. Or maybe we'll do like a little after party or something at one of the clubs or something. I don't know.

[Mecca]

I don't see why not.

[Jamila]

So what type of things do you do you have planned this summer? Machiavelli.

[Mecca]

So obviously you guys know I'm doing the podcast with Darrington. Breakover. We drop every Wednesday. I also have a podcast with my bestie from college, my other one, Kousi. But you if you watch this on YouTube. Both my YouTube audience knew about Breakover and Darling Diaries already. It's just a matter of actually uploading them to, like, podcast streaming platforms. So Kousi and I are going to be dropping Darling Diaries next month. We're just trying to get our recording schedule together because, you know, she's a doctor that goes.

[Jamila]

A doctor. She has a real. I was gonna say a doctor that can prove she can put.

[Mecca]

She's going to produce that Hampton University paperwork very quickly. Six years. Yes.

[Jamila]

She does have that paperwork.

[Mecca]

I'm trying to work with my doctor

[Jamila]

bestie and her schedule.

[Mecca]

In addition to that, I just actually got cast, invested in a pilot, so I am gonna be.

[Jamila]

That's.

[Mecca]

We're so busy, y'.

[Jamila]

All.

[Mecca]

I'm. I'm gonna do a bit in la, I think, this summer. And it, like, I'm gonna do, you

[Jamila]

know, when y' all are filming that or.

[Mecca]

No, I kind of have preliminary, like the month of August, somewhere in August. So I think I'm gonna go film and then I want to stay in LA for like a month. I have people out there, so I will think I'm gonna couch surf a little bit, but I want to put my feet on the ground and do other auditions and other things and take advantage of la. I feel like whenever we've gone to LA to work with Kev, we'd be getting so much random work done. And then watching how Mel moves when she's in la. Like how she. How she just shows us how to go around. Yeah, I. I wanna. I wanna do the things. And then obviously we have the stuff coming up for the pod. But, yeah, there are some big things in the work. What do you have planned?

[Jamila]

Well, I'm hopefully supposed to be shooting my pilot actually within the next couple of weeks, period.

[Mecca]

Congratulations.

[Jamila]

We're gonna be shooting that. Thank you.

[Mecca]

So are you sorry, or you just directing? Okay, so you're in it.

[Jamila]

All the things.

[Mecca]

Okay. Period.

[Jamila]

I'm doing all the things. So.

[Mecca]

Writing.

[Jamila]

Well, we wrote it. Directing, producing, acting in the chat.

[Mecca]

All the things, child. Yeah.

[Jamila]

I need. I need some medication to calm me down. I need a blunt is actually what I need. You. You and.

[Mecca]

And provider. You need one of them gummies, you know what I mean?

[Jamila]

No, literally. So doing that also just got booked for another writing gig. I can't say too much about that, but that's really exciting. So I'm really excited about that. Literally just hitting the streets, you feel me? Doing all the things, just brushing up on all of my skills. I am like, you know, I can't just really say, but some stuff.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Big part of this industry is the connections and just networking and just showing up and being present. So, yeah, we do want to thank you guys for supporting us and putting us in position to make this type of thing happen for ourselves. It's really exciting stuff happening. I always say. I'm always trying to give Kev his flowers. He gave us or two shows under the belt, you know what I mean? Even putting us.

[Jamila]

That's crazy.

[Mecca]

In position to have these eyes on us to, you know, to reach out to us in this way, which is so cool. You know, Denzel Washington doesn't audition for anything. And I kind of feel like when it comes to Kevin on my Denzel, like, I know I don't have to audition, but I really wanted to, like. I wanted to, like, prove to myself that I could, like, do something. So sending out audition tapes and, like, that whole thing, I. I kind of am enjoying the process a little bit just because it's forcing me to have to, like. Like, I've been taking acting classes on the side, y'. All. I need to post about that more. But, like, I'm enjoying. I don't want to say, like, okay, so we have Unhinged, Immoral. But then I think, like, even with, like, when I look at Break over, our Darling diaries, like, I kind of like building something because it, like, you're forced to go full throttle. It makes you have to go hard. I feel like when you have something that you know is successful, you can obviously, like, relax and lean on it. And I think that being complacent can be dangerous. Not. Not always. Not always. Because sometimes we need to be complacent and happy with what we have. But I feel like at this point, for me, being complacent would be a huge mistake, for sure.

[Jamila]

I feel like, you know, this. It's been a very, like, fruitful two years, and I feel like in this moment, it's like, wow. I am, like, I have to strike while the iron is hot. I'm very much like, the. I'm jumping off of the porch, fully diving in. Of course, like, you know, I quit my job a while ago, but that's one part to it. I'm on part two now. Like, that was. That was step one, and I feel like step two is fully throwing myself into the gauntlet with gasoline draws on. You know what I mean? And that's kind of what I understand.

[Mecca]

The summer break and, like, where our brains are at. Like, we're trying. We're hustling, y'.

[Jamila]

All.

[Mecca]

We're. We're hustling. We're on the corner. We're on the corner with it.

[Jamila]

So, yeah, literally, I'm on the corner with my new titties out. Like, we don't want y' all to

[Mecca]

think that we're abandoning. We're just gonna go. And then. And then I think coming back with the live show will also.

[Jamila]

But so we can be like, yo,

[Mecca]

like, we did it like, y'. All. And, you know, we're on social media, so y' all can see us, like,

[Jamila]

now that we're, like, really boosting it, like, oh, my gosh. I know we really got a whole lot of. We're doing this summer. And then you guys, of course, y' all follow us, obviously. So y' all are gonna see the things that we're doing and. And then things are going to start to come out because, like, like I said, there's some things that we can't necessarily like to speak on, obviously. You know, just. That's just how. Maybe that's just how this industry go. You can't speak too soon if you want to. You know what I mean?

[Mecca]

Hello.

[Jamila]

Big, biggest part of why you don't speak on things too soon. Cuz, baby, sometime it don't happen.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

But as you guys start to see things roll out and flesh out, you're going to be like, oh, that's really cool. And of course, you already know, like, the airport is coming out. So I don't know when the airport's coming out, baby. What y' all ask me. And I'll be like, I don't know. Ask Kevin.

[Mecca]

Kevon,

[Jamila]

I don't think it's gonna take too long because from what I've seen just with safe space and like the turnaround time with that. But you. You know, he just did safe space too. I feel like that's. That's definitely coming out first. I think that's actually coming out within the next couple of weeks just because he just posted a little sneak peek. So sometime after that. So maybe in like a month or two. Like,

[Mecca]

because if I. And this is obviously all speculation, y' all need to get other cabs vid videos. But. But if I'm going off of the downtime between safe space that we did when we filmed and when it came out, it really was like the summer. So what? We did it in May, around your birthday. It dropped around. I want to say September, October. Like, it wasn't crazy. Like. Or maybe August. Like it was a couple months.

[Jamila]

Because we came back May was when we did. I think we went there in June.

[Mecca]

Maybe it was June. Yeah, we did go back. It was back home. One of them was your birthday during one of them. I can't.

[Jamila]

The podcast with him.

[Mecca]

Oh. So, yeah, that was our first. My point. June to like, September. It really be a couple months. It's not. He not gonna sit on it forever, y'.

[Jamila]

All.

[Mecca]

It's coming out relatively soon.

[Jamila]

I know that one thing about Kevin. He ain't sitting on nothing. He don't drop it.

[Mecca]

You know, he gonna get the content out.

[Jamila]

Child, we want it. We want it just as much, if not more than y'. All. I promise you.

[Mecca]

Another clip tape to send in with the auditions. And I feel like I was better in this than I was in safe space. That's also the thing. Like, the more you practice, the more you get better. Was like with anything else, obviously.

[Jamila]

Yeah, this was very fun. So, yeah, y' all do what y' all got to do. Y' all can go back and actually, we do have one more slumber party edition. I'll drop that probably next week. That just to give you guys a little bit of extra cushion. So I'll drop that next week and then, yeah, guys, we're gonna go on a little hiatus and work. Work.

[Mecca]

Okay, Got you working.

[Jamila]

It seems like nobody wants to work anymore.

[Mecca]

Seems like no one wants to. And Michael says you should work day and night. So we're gonna do that and get done. I just want to be famous. So now we gotta, you know, really get famous. Well, all right, y'. All. Y' all know where to find us. You can find us on our individual platforms. I'm at meccavelli. Meccavelli. With two L's and two eyes on all social media. Be sure to follow my YouTube page. It's under More please Media parentheses Machiavelli. So if you look at Machiavelli or More please media, my YouTube will pop up. That's where you can find. If you're going to listen to the visuals of Breakover and Darling Diaries, that's where you can find this. I be dropping some other content. Personal. Just Mecca content on there. And yeah, break over Darling Diaries available wherever you listen to your podcasts, Jamila. Where can they find you?

[Jamila]

Well, guys, you can follow me on all of my Sushi media platforms@_AM. Jamila. Of course, my YouTube, just Jamila Bell. Also, I'm producing L. Young's podcast. If you guys like whatever he got

[Mecca]

going on behind the scenes on that there.

[Jamila]

Jamila is the Jamaican who has 30 jobs. Yeah. Also make sure y' all are following Audi. We have so much coming up with Audi.

[Mecca]

I'd be forgetting that you're also her. You do have 30 jobs.

[Jamila]

I am all the things. I'm tired.

[Mecca]

I Perfect city for that, though. I need to do a bid in

[Jamila]

Atlanta, but definitely, definitely tap into Audi. She just dropped her first single of the year problem. And she's also on Tim Jen's new album with a feature there we have two insane features about to drop and actually three insane features that are about to drop with her that are just. Y' all are gonna gag over. We're about to actually shoot some visuals for the song with her and Tim Gin that I'll be directing. Yes. Getting back into that bag. Lots of stuff happening with her. So that's really exciting as well. That' also a lot that I'm about to be doing this summer. We have so much. So much to do.

[Mecca]

Music is a constant.

[Jamila]

Anybody who is in the music industry, you know, so make sure y' all follow her. Make sure y' all follow Jelani at ringing my bell. Everything. Y' all know he's going up as well.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Y' all can follow Darrington. He's. He's trying. Crazy ass. Yeah. You know, it's the ecosystem. Damn. There was something. Oh, never mind. I'll say it when we get off camera. Sorry. I hate when people do that. They'd be like, oh, I was gonna tell you something, but then it's like, they can't. I can't tell you with them right here. Sorry.

[Jamila]

All right, guys. Well, we'll see you all later at the live show.

[Mecca]

Royal performance series. Char broil performance series.