SPOOKY Kids

Summary

Podcast Summary: "SPOOKY Kids" | Unhinged & Immoral

Release Date: June 19, 2025

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1. Weather Woes and Humidity Hassles [00:20 – 06:54]

Hosts Mecca and Jamila kick off the episode by venting about the relentless rain and oppressive humidity in Georgia and Texas.

• Mecca expresses frustration with the unending rain, stating, “It’s been so. So incredibly muggy and humid. Nasty hot, sticky. And the mosquitoes” ([01:00]).

• Jamila shares her own battle with the rainy weather, mentioning how it disrupted her workout routine but found some solace in temporary sunshine ([00:34] – [01:38]).

The duo humorously discusses the challenges of maintaining their lawns amidst the wet conditions, with Mecca lamenting overgrown grass attracting snakes and ants ([01:25]).

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2. Embracing and Battling the Heat [05:15 – 07:00]

Transitioning from humidity, the conversation shifts to their love-hate relationship with summer heat.

• Jamila reminisces about leaving dry heat behind in LA for Georgia's humid climate, saying, “I have an appreciation for both, like humid and dry heat” ([04:22] – [07:00]).

• Mecca adds her take, highlighting the suffocating nature of excessive humidity despite her lifelong exposure to it ([02:44] – [03:00]).

They debate the pros and cons of summer activities, emphasizing the importance of staying cool and managing energy bills during scorching days ([05:50] – [07:00]).

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3. Defining Moments and Life-Altering Decisions [15:27 – 32:12]

In a reflective segment titled "Defining Moments," Mecca and Jamila delve into pivotal decisions that shaped their lives.

• Mecca recounts her parents' decision to move from Texas to Georgia due to Hurricane Rita, describing it as a "domino effect" that changed her family's trajectory ([16:10] – [18:06]).

• Jamila discusses her own life path, detailing her moves between Baltimore and Houston, and how these choices influenced her connections and career opportunities ([18:45] – [20:50]).

• They explore the concept of "Sliding Glass Moments," moments when a single decision can significantly alter one's future, with both hosts sharing personal anecdotes and contemplating alternate life paths ([15:47] – [32:12]).

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4. Motherhood and Its Impact [33:36 – 44:42]

The conversation shifts to motherhood, with both hosts reflecting on how parenting has transformed their lives.

• Jamila asks Mecca how being a mother has changed her, to which Mecca responds that motherhood was always part of her life plan, sharing a humorous anecdote about predicting her pregnancy ([33:36] – [35:56]).

• Mecca reveals her belief in being psychic, claiming to foresee events and decisions, which she ties into her current role as a mother ([35:56] – [44:42]).

• Jamila shares her experiences with her son Noah, recounting spooky instances where Noah seemed to communicate with spirits, reinforcing their belief that children are "tapped into different realms" ([41:31] – [48:09]).

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5. The Spiritual Realm and Children’s Sensitivity [41:31 – 55:21]

Delving deeper into spirituality, the hosts discuss their children's uncanny interactions with the spiritual world.

• Jamila narrates eerie moments when her son referred to his deceased grandmother and pointed out nonexistent presences, illustrating her belief in children's heightened spiritual sensitivity ([47:36] – [55:21]).

• Mecca shares similar experiences, describing how her toddler Noah communicates with spirits during significant events like funerals, asserting that children are naturally connected to other realms ([49:16] – [55:21]).

The hosts emphasize the importance of listening to children without overreacting, suggesting that their youngsters are mere "vessels" for these spiritual interactions ([51:47] – [55:21]).

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6. Spin It: Turning Drama into PR Gold [56:43 – 77:09]

In the "Spin It" segment, Mecca and Jamila tackle listener-submitted drama, offering their unfiltered PR spin on messy situations.

• First Submission: Angela's complicated outing with her friends Tatiana and Alex leads to misunderstandings and tensions. Jamila and Mecca dissect the scenario, critiquing the maturity and decision-making of the involved parties while providing humorous commentary ([57:22] – [61:15]).

• Second Submission: An anonymous listener, "Barnes," grapples with a long-distance relationship and an enticing age-gap situation with a 21-year-old. The hosts fervently advise against pursuing the younger woman, stressing the pitfalls of such relationships and echoing their skepticism about Barnes's intentions ([62:00] – [77:09]).

Throughout "Spin It," the hosts employ their signature blend of humor and honesty, candidly addressing red flags and offering blunt advice to their listeners.

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7. Listener Interactions and Final Thoughts [78:37 – End]

Concluding the episode, Mecca and Jamila engage with listener comments, sharing their takes on various topics.

• They respond to remarks about celebrity relationships, personal experiences with grief, and conspiracy theories regarding online hate, maintaining their candid and humorous tone ([78:37] – [83:24]).

• The hosts encourage continued engagement through social media and remind listeners to subscribe for more unfiltered discussions ([80:08] – [83:24]).

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Notable Quotes:

• Mecca on Defining Moments: “...when you make one decision, others follow. It’s the domino effect.” ([16:10])

• Jamila on Motherhood: “I never envisioned myself, like, pregnant, if that makes sense.” ([38:59])

• Mecca on Spiritual Children: “Noah goes, nana’s right there... She was smiling. Freaky.” ([49:53])

• Jamila on Handling Heartbreak: “Come on, that's why this is a dangerous game.” ([25:21])

• Mecca on Age-Gap Relationships: “At 21, you are easily manipulated, even if that person is not manipulating you.” ([73:42])

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Conclusion:

In this episode of Unhinged & Immoral, Jamila and Mecca navigate a spectrum of topics ranging from the nuisances of summer weather to profound life decisions and the mysterious spiritual connections of their children. Their honest and humorous approach allows listeners to connect deeply, whether they're sharing in their frustrations, reflecting on their own defining moments, or seeking advice on personal dramas. The "Spin It" segment showcases their expertise in transforming tumultuous situations into relatable narratives, reinforcing the podcast's commitment to offering unfiltered and entertaining discussions on internet gossip and pop culture.

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Stay tuned for more engaging episodes every Thursday and join the conversation by emailing your own stories to [e-mail].

Transcript

[Mecca]

Going in that cash hall Walk in the booth like Naomi on the catwalk and tell them bitches whoop, whoop from the jaguar it ain't even right, though Push me and I might go she ain't getting money. I'm like, what the fuck a hype for when the bitches bite flow make my appetite go poof Gone. Voila. Magic Looking mad good just to pull up on them ramping.

[Jamila]

Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged and Immoral.

[Mecca]

I'm Mecca and I'm Jamila.

[Jamila]

And I don't know, it's just Monday. It's a Monday. That feels like a Monday.

[Mecca]

It's really rainy in Georgia. Has it been raining a lot in Texas?

[Jamila]

It rained so bad this morning. I woke up and I worked out, so it's. But it's sunny now when it's like 10:30.

[Mecca]

It's been raining nonstop. I'm like, okay, I get it. Like, let's go ahead and stop it. And then on top of that, because it's been so rainy, it's been so. So incredibly muggy and humid. Nasty hot, sticky. And the mosquitoes.

[Jamila]

Ugh.

[Mecca]

Oh, my fucking God. I feel like I'm at a fucking swamp. Every time I walk outside, I'm getting toe up. Like, I'm literally getting toed up. I don't even like to go outside. Mosquitoes are running rampant. And on top of that, I have skipped getting my grass cut this week, which was a mistake. It's how much it's fucking rained, so my grass is tall. I felt like there's snakes, fucking ants, and goddamn mosquitoes. Like, it's just too fucking much.

[Jamila]

You can't even play them games in the south in the summertime. My gardener just came. What? When we got back from LA and my grass was high. Cause it had been raining, I said, oh, Mr. Pedro, please, please come, please.

[Mecca]

I will be calling that boy back very soon to come get all this shit out. Cause I'm like, damn, it grew so fast.

[Jamila]

I can't lie. I've never been more thankful for the humidity, though. Because that dry heat in LA was whooping my ass. Like, really? My. Yeah, well, I have dry skin. And the one thing that I know, like, I can't go back and forth from the. From the different climate types. Cause you know that California heat is like. Like dehydrated. Spongebob. Like, I enjoyed was. I mean, I can see how it feels breathable. Really. I feel like. I feel, like, breathable. I do see what you're saying. I vividly Remember when I stepped off the plane from Hampton out of the airport? When I mean, like in Norfolk, like, I've never been in humidity like that up until that point. Like I was 18 and the way I stepped out and felt like I was suffocating and I was like, mom, it feels like I was in a steamy shower. Yeah, I was like, I remember being like, what the fuck? Now the only, like I have an appreciation for both, like humid and dry heat. But I know that I cannot be switching back and forth at all. Yeah.

[Mecca]

And it's like you would think I would be used to humidity by now. I mean, I've spent my pretty much my entire life living in humid climates. But yeah, it's just so suffocating at some times. And like, I hate the feeling of being like sticky and moisture, you know, I hate wetness.

[Jamila]

So like the moisture, contextual wetness. I didn't even, I didn't even consider humidity. Yeah, that's crazy. I always on my skin, I take the opportunity because when you're, when it's moist and you're in, it's humid. That's when all your body smells come out like your pheromones. So first of all, this is if you're in Texas, you already know I'm talking about the summertime. If you go outside, you got to make sure you shower really well. So that like you not musty, but some about when you. Hello? Hello?

[Mecca]

Because it gets real, what Gigi said.

[Jamila]

We need them deodorants with the chemicals.

[Mecca]

I need all the chemicals immediately down. Do not walk around in this hot ass heat with no natural bullshit. None of them pits. You're musty and you stink.

[Jamila]

Please, Erykah Badu, not right now. We cannot do that right now. I damn near want to tell the girls, shave your armpits. Because that hair holds that smell. Like you just can't play certain games.

[Mecca]

So I know I say tryna be girl power. Girl power. Go shave your pits too.

[Jamila]

One thing I hate is a funky bitch and a funky nigga. I can't give no powers no more.

[Mecca]

I love the boys shave them pits. I love when the boys shave their pits. I hate a hairy ass pit.

[Jamila]

Really?

[Mecca]

I don't like when the boys have armpit hair. I know most of them do, but I love when they shave. And it's just the ball. Like we just pit to pit. We could just scissor our piece.

[Jamila]

No, I know boys who used to purposely in the summertime in California too, shave it or at least trim it. Just because it's like the stench. But also when you spray some perfume and your body's moist and then it just like that's when, that's when the niggas be walking past you like, oh, you smell so good. Like, oh, I know, it's just. And you be glistening. It gets real strong.

[Mecca]

It's. It's mixing in with that natural must.

[Jamila]

With that natural must and pheromones that, that primal, like these are, these are cheat coats. And then you get you some glitter so it's like you moist. But then you have the spray. It's just the summertime. And you get your little fan. Did you see the TikTok? The girl who was like, this is my impression of girls at the club with the fans. And she was like, that really is so Houston in the summertime. Coated like moist glitter perfume fan. I'm in the club. I'm in the club, child. I'm not even gonna lie. Moving to Houston was really why I stopped wearing wigs in the summertime.

[Mecca]

This'll be the first summer I don't know. I don't know how the girls do it. I wanna walk like this in the summertime. Hello me.

[Jamila]

Hello. Hello.

[Mecca]

Don't touch me. I mind you. I like the heat. I am a heat loving ass bitch. I like to be out in the sun, you know, and just feel the rays on my skin. I love the summertime. But there comes a point in the summertime where it's too motherfucking hot and you be like, it's hot, it's hot. Will your face just be like this the whole day? Just.

[Jamila]

Do y' all want to go here? No. If it's not to the pool, don't invite me. If it's not to the pool, it.

[Mecca]

Be hot where you have to sit your ass down and not move and think. And don't speak too goddamn loud. Child.

[Jamila]

In the summertime, my AC bill, I be paying reliant they little bitch ass money, child. I ain't gonna play with them. Turn it up. It needs to be on. And the thing about Houston, what I've seen when we go on trips and stuff during this time of year, I can't even play and turn my ear off because it'd be getting so hot in the house. No, no, no.

[Mecca]

And that's how your energy bill gets fucked up, bitch. You have to re cool the whole ass house.

[Jamila]

That makes sense. But outside of that, fuck that. Not fuck the money, but fuck that. I did that and came back from Atlanta and I had bugs in My house because it was so, like the, the. It was so humid. It felt like outside in the house.

[Mecca]

It's in the ecosystem. I said, what the fuck? All type of shit bacteria.

[Jamila]

I say, hell no.

[Mecca]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jamila]

No, I'm not even joking.

[Mecca]

Not safe. Not safe to do that.

[Jamila]

You need to keep the air on. You cannot leave. You got to keep the air on. In Houston, it's not even that bad on auto.

[Mecca]

Set you a good temperature. If you're hot, turn the temperature down. If you're cold, leave it at 70. Trust me, don't you turn it up any more than 70 during the summertime. You're going to fucking bake and die. Put you on little pants.

[Jamila]

I'm not gonna hold you though. I knew it was summertime for real. For real. Because I was driving. I was driving in my neighborhood and I seen the niggas outside on horses in the street like they cars. And I said, my God, the weather is nice. And I mean in wife beaters and true religion jorts. I said, yep, it's summertime.

[Mecca]

It was summer when I heard the slingshots and cat daddy motorcycles from afar playing maze and Frankie Beverly.

[Jamila]

Wait, what did Jersky do? Vroom. When he lifted his h. Oh, butt chica boom. Juski is so fucking funny.

[Mecca]

Summertime and the living is y. I love it. Like, yes, the kids are playing outside. Yes. It's just. I love the summer. It's just like, yes.

[Jamila]

I kind of like being older in the summer now because the way I want the summer is so different. Like, I want to really relax. Like, I feel like I'm really enjoying. I had fun when I was a kid. Like, even though, like, how you gonn through summer, summer's in different stages. So when you're a kid, like, it's outside, it's bikes, it's no school. Like, summer is exciting in that way. Then when you get to be a young adult, early 20s, you like, oh, we outside as fuck. No college, no school. Like, we outside d now it's like over. Like over 25 plus, close to 30. It's like, okay, we gonna relax. We go. I be doing shit like buying day passes for. What's that hotel? Is it the Marriott? I can't remember what the name of that hotel is. The one where the pool shaped like Texas. They got the lagoon. You know, you could buy day passes, go sit up there and be about what we. Oh, let's go. The spa.

[Mecca]

Oh, I really enjoy it as an adult, specifically in Atlanta, because Atlanta, if you know, you know Baby, Atlanta in the summertime.

[Jamila]

I really want to go to Chicago. Last year, I went to Chicago in the summertime. Amazing.

[Mecca]

Yes. Chicago's on my list of cities to visit and to travel to. I've heard nothing but great things about it. So hopefully I can definitely make my mark in Chicago at some point. But, baby, Atlanta in the summertime. It's event after event after event. It's so much to do in Atlanta in the summer. Like, I'm not even joking. Every single week. If you want to be booked up, bitch, you can. Because it's just that much stuff going on. Like, I really can't wait to just do all of the Atlanta activities and just be out. Like, I didn't really go out a lot and do a lot of events in my early 20s. Because you have to think early 20s, I was either broke, pregnant, Covid broke.

[Jamila]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

So all those things, it was like.

[Jamila]

Yeah, the way I didn't let being broke stop me from doing nothing. But that was in my prime time. I'm getting money out of nigga phase. So even though I was broke, I was never broke. Because one thing I would do was ask a nigga for some money. I've been. I've been up and I've been down. One thing I'd have never minded doing. Hey, baby.

[Mecca]

That's crazy. Hey, baby. What are you saying?

[Jamila]

I was outside.

[Mecca]

Send me 150 real quick, right, babe?

[Jamila]

I want to go to this. I just did it. Shit, I just did it the other day. Oh, my God.

[Mecca]

I can't. I cannot fix. I don't think I've ever, like. I just cannot. Cannot fix my mouth to ask a man for money. Really? I have. I don't really. I can't even fix my. To ask a man for anything. It's something that I feel like would die inside me.

[Jamila]

Really. I feel like something was alive inside.

[Mecca]

Of me, but I just can't do it. Like. Like, I never. I don't know. It's just. It's just. It ain't me. I can't.

[Jamila]

What was so fun about early 20s, though? Me and Sabrina, you know, we a 2Ps when we would go outside. No money, just a 20 in gloss, just to cover. We didn't even think we had to get it to the club, but just in case we had a 20. And the whole, like, idea of meeting N so that they can buy us drinks, like, it was really, like, we had made it such a game. And it was a fun game between us.

[Mecca]

Like, ooh like, who, who, who?

[Jamila]

Go. Which one go. We'll go pay our way tonight. Like, that's what I miss. And you know what's, like, the. What makes you mature? What's maturation? I don't even find that as that fun no more. You get what I'm saying? Like, a n. Talk to me too much. Please get away from me.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Nah, I can't. I can't even focus too much when I go out. Cause it's like, Lord knows, y' all know how I get, baby, I'm going to have the time.

[Jamila]

Lord knows I can buy my own drinks nowadays. Bitch, stop talking to me.

[Mecca]

Whole time I'm going there just to judge the dj. Make a mistake if you want to.

[Jamila]

And that's the other thing. I'd be there. I was always dancing. Like, we were always cutting the rug, but now I'm really there to just. Yeah, I just want to dance. Especially now that if you go to Chicago, you have to hit Coosy. She has all the good house parties, like, for house music. And I love. I love house parties because I don't even know if that's what the house heads call them, but I love those type of parties because they are strictly about dancing. Like, Strictly strictly.

[Mecca]

You're.

[Jamila]

Yeah. You're going to go to a party based in house music, and them niggas are like. If you're standing around, you look. You look like the weirdo. There's none of that. I enjoy those. We have one. I don't know when the next one is, but it's called Physical Therapy. Like, that's the name of the party. And at one point, they were throwing them, like, every other month, and it was just straight house music, straight vibes. So fucking fun, bro.

[Mecca]

I live. That's just. You know, I feel like I. Something happens to me when I'm out and I hear good music. It's. It's impossible for me to stand still. Like, I am going. I might even close my eyes. I just feel like I'm so free when I'm out and I'm listening to music and I have a little cocktail in my hand. Mind you, the cocktail is there for decoration. Sometimes I just need something in my hand. Cause y' all know me. A couple sips and I'm done.

[Jamila]

I just feel like Norbit with that wine cooler.

[Mecca]

Exactly. Just dancing and just moving and grooving and laughing, and it's just. It feels so good. I can't wait for the next moment I get to do that. Like, I live I live, I live. I live. I live. I live. Happy summer.

[Jamila]

Happy summer, y' all.

[Mecca]

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[Jamila]

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[Mecca]

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[Jamila]

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[Mecca]

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[Jamila]

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[Mecca]

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[Jamila]

And we're back. Let's talk about defining moments. Melissa just gave us the name. I don't remember something about a mirror.

[Mecca]

Sliding glass.

[Jamila]

Sliding glass theory or open glass door? Open glass door.

[Mecca]

I said sliding glass moment. Okay, close glass.

[Jamila]

Something child. Just the glass through the looking glass. And it's basically. It's basically when you make a defi. Like a decision that could change your life. Like if you look back, there are decisions we've made that. Dang, if I hadn't made that decision, things would be completely different for me. Like, what is your sliding glass moment, Jamila? I mean, we all have so many, but what's one that you can think of off the top of your head?

[Mecca]

There's My life is nothing but sliding glass, honestly and truly. But I think that one of the most defining things is actually the decision from my parents to leave Texas and move to Georgia. That changed the trajectory of not only my life, but my entire family life. Honestly, it just completely changed everything. We look back at that all the time and talk about how drastically that really affected my family, but not just my immediate family, my full family that lived in Texas as well, because there were so many, you know, pieces of the puzzle that just happened. And, you know, when you make one decision, others follow. It's the domino effect. So we left because of Hurricane Rita. And I say this all the time. I have to give you guys a full, detailed story time about all that is Rita and the evacuation. I just. Y' all just. It's intense. But not now, because it's gonna take a while, but because we left for. Because of a hurricane, it was just such a catalyst for so many other different things. Like, me and my siblings changed. My brother pretty much was not even raised in Beaumont, Texas, so his memories are almost just all of Georgia. And so me and Jaz always talk about, like, what would we have been if we would have stayed in Beaumont, Texas? Noah would have been 18. Noah would have been 18 with a sibling. I would. I don't know what I would have been. And that's. It's not to, like, talk down on Beaumont. It's just.

[Jamila]

It is a teenage mom.

[Mecca]

I know. I know. I would have been.

[Jamila]

You was fast. You done told us that.

[Mecca]

I was. And it was. I felt like it would have been easier to be fast in Beaumont as opposed to in Georgia, because Beaumont is still very much segregated. Ish. So it's like I would have been surrounded by nothing but black kids, but. And so I think I would have got more play in Georgia. It was a. It was very, you know, mixy mixy. I wasn't getting no play like that. The black boys wanted the white girls and, you know, all these.

[Jamila]

Do you think your family, though, because your family was in Beaumont, you would have been able to run around a little bit more, though? That's what I'm thinking.

[Mecca]

My parents were still very strict in Beaumont, honestly, like. And that was a critique that a lot of people gave to my parents, is that they were too strict with us. Because even with my family, like, my family wasn't just immediately safe. Yeah, they was buck wild, too. So it wasn't just, like, I could run the streets like that, but I think at some point, no matter what, my parents would have just relinquished some of their. Their hold as we became teenagers. And that. That's. That's when shit would have got yeah. And then you have to think about the time period in which I was a teenager. I was a teenager from 2009 to 2014, baby. In Beaumont, Texas. Oh, bitch. Yeah, listen, I would have been buck wild. I would have been.

[Jamila]

You know what I feel like I'd be having Glassdoor, but also invisible string theory. Do you know what that one is?

[Mecca]

No, wait. That's when you meet somebody and then you meet somebody later. Like, I was supposed to meet you or something like that.

[Jamila]

Yeah. But I feel like it's, like, with a place. Because I'm looking at, like, how I'm gearing up to split time between Houston and Atlanta. And mind you, this will be the third time, like, I'm. I've tried to move to Atlanta because the first time, if anything about me in college, ended up going to Hampton. My first choice was Spelman. Spelman didn't have my major. And I had always told my family from the time I was in middle school, because my godparents lived in. Not Atlanta, Lithonia, but not Atlanta, but it was still Atlanta. So I was like, oh, I'm moving to Atlanta. Like, for all high school, I'm moving to Atlanta. Then it was like, all of a sudden, okay, I'm not moving to Atlanta. Then pandemic comes. I'm trying to figure out, I'm going to leave Baltimore. I ended up moving to Houston because of Jameela's sister, because I was going to move to Atlanta, but then Jaz was like, well, come visit Houston. It might be more your vibe. And I was like, oh, yeah, this is definitely my vibe. And so then it was like, when y' all were like, okay, well, can you move to Atlanta? And I was like, well, I don't want to move completely, but I'll split time. I was sitting there like, dang, like, Atlanta just trying to. Atlanta been trying to get me for 10 years at this point.

[Mecca]

Atlanta calling your name.

[Jamila]

Atlanta been calling. I've been like, hang. Hang up on you.

[Mecca]

There's a nigga here or something.

[Jamila]

A nigga in Atlanta for me.

[Mecca]

There's a nigga in Atlanta for everybody.

[Jamila]

Well, I cannot. I cannot disagree with you there, sister. I cannot.

[Mecca]

They for everybody. What? Cash doll say please. Chile.

[Jamila]

I do definitely think invisible door. Another invisible door that I think is when I decide to move to Baltim. I definitely think had I not moved to Baltimore, my life would become so completely different. Like. Cause that was me being like, okay, bye, guys. And I didn't have no family there. I didn't have. I was just outside. So it's like I either would have stayed home, ended up going to Atlanta, ended up staying in Hampton. Like my choices would have been not. I don't, I don't think I would have ended up in Houston. That's what I'm trying to say. I think had I not went to Baltimore, I would have for sure had been in Atlanta by now. Mm. Mm.

[Mecca]

Yeah. It's like every decision influences your later decisions without you even recognizing or knowing it. It's like you don't even have the thought process of this is going to have this outcome 15 years later. Like, there's just no way you could know how these small decisions would impact you later. But when you look back, you'd be, bitch. If I never would have did this and I never would have did that and that and this and this and that.

[Jamila]

Whoa. I can't lie though. I'm so happy I got my heart broke in my early 20s because watching the, watching the girls get their heartbroke at 29, I really do be feeling for them. Your first heartbreak at 29 is crazy, cuz you can't fuck off because like you'll actually fuck your life up. But it's like, I understand how you feel, sister, but unfortunately you can't, you can't crash.

[Mecca]

Yeah, you, you, you can't afford to.

[Jamila]

You can't afford to crash out. Like, that's why I'm like, yo, gotta get yourself, please get, get your feelings hurt pre 24. I'm not even saying pre 25. You gotta get that shit done before 24 so you can crash out and still have some to like, for like your parents can type help you, you can, you might be in like, you can crash out and it's still. You can recover.

[Mecca]

So do you think you're never gonna have another heartbreak?

[Jamila]

Well, I have an avoidant attachment style, so that. That would not be possible at this point.

[Mecca]

I don't feel anything these days. So no, I have no feelings.

[Jamila]

So I'm very good at compartmentalization. My trauma has dug itself so deep in me that I simply bury feelings. I don't think I will ever go through it.

[Mecca]

If you feel like you're never gonna feel any heartbreak, are you ever gonna feel true love now?

[Jamila]

This is a possession. Well, yes, I feel all love. What I will say is getting my heart broken. I feel like it released the most powerful version of me. I say this all the time. Like every dude I talk to, I just feel like I'm just gonna feel completely with you. Like I, I, I say this, but, like, Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith changed my life with that red table talk. Bad marriage for life, because she was like, you know, I feel like I enjoy every experience to the fullest. And when that experience is over, I don't, I'm not sad because I know the next great experience is coming. And I really internalize that. So I can look back on experience and be like, oh, I think I like that guy better than this one or this. But I had a good time with everyone.

[Mecca]

I feel like a heartbreak is gonna see me again for sure. I don't know when or how or whatever. I just feel like, you know what I'm saying? I just know myself and I know that I am a lover girl for sure. And I just don't know if I can assuredly say that I'm never gonna experience that again because I know how deep I could get with a boy. Yeah, I feel like there's a true love for me, or I feel like I will experience true love. And I feel like if I have the opportunity to experience true love, I also have the opportunity, the opportunity to experience great heartache. So I kind of just like, open for that possibility. Obviously, I don't want to, but I just feel like I'd rather prepare myself than be just in shock and all like, oh, shit, bitch. I never thought I experienced this again. Like, no little do, you know, bitch.

[Jamila]

And I want to make it clear I still be sad. Like, I don't want to seem like I'm a shit. Like, I don't feel feelings. Like, I still be sad when things don't work out. But also another thing about, like, having gone through the motions and really, like, force myself to feel everything is I know that depending on how much I like a nigga, I might be down bad for three days, three weeks, three months. That all depends on how much I like him. But I know there's, I know, I know the timeframe. Like, you know, when you get your first heartbreak, it's the, when the when is this going to end? Like, you know, you kind of learn how to thug it and be like, I'm gonna be okay in the next month. Like, I know I gotta get myself three weeks, I'm gonna be straight.

[Mecca]

Like, I think the way I would deal with said potential heartbreak is going to be vastly different than how I dealt with it in my earlier years. Because I think in my earlier years it crippled me almost really. And it was very difficult for me to move on whenever something would happen to Me, I would just be so down, and I would start to internalize it and feel like, what did I do? But why me? I feel like I. Like, why is this happening to me? Like, I feel like I'm such a good girl. I am such a good girl. Why am I dealing with all this heartbreak? And it's like, girl, get over yourself. Who do you think you are, bitch?

[Jamila]

Well, you're that bitch. I feel like t. But, like, you're.

[Mecca]

Still gonna get heartbreaking heartbreak. Okay. Like, you're fine, bitch. It doesn't mean anything about you. It's not a. It's not a you thing. And so once I realized that, it's been so much easier, like, after I've kind of digested that and realized how that works and moved on. And I started to date again in post Noah, I felt like I was able to have a situation where it's like, okay, this shitty thing happened. I'm no longer dating this person.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Yeah. But I'm okay. Like, I'm not out. I'm not. You know, I'm not out the game for weeks on weeks on weeks. I'm not crying days and night like, nah. Like, that hurt my feelings. I'm feeling that tomorrow. Where the hood niggas at? Where the hood niggas at? Like, all right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I get it.

[Jamila]

I credit my mom with the way that I handle things because she. When I. When I. When my relationship imploded, she came in my room. I was crying, mind you, when I found. Like, when my ex told me he cheated on me and all this, like, this shit. Like, that day, I was at my mom's house, and this was during COVID I ran to her bathroom and threw up. Because I'm one of the people, like, high emotions. I have physical reactions.

[Mecca]

I literally.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Because I definitely will throw up. Like, I threw up.

[Jamila]

I threw up, bro. And I Like, actually, this is too much. This is too much. I'm in my mom's lap. I'm sobbing, like, bawling. And so she. She said, you have one week. And I mean, this lady shout out to Miss Lindy went and bought me the biggest fucking bottle of Patron she could find and let me sit in the room and drink and cry for a week.

[Mecca]

This is so tv.

[Jamila]

This is so TV coded. And on the seventh day, she rose. She rose. She came in my room and said, call your friends. You cannot do this anymore. And I have pictures from that day. Like, me and all my friends went to downtown Sacramento Frolicked around. I looked so pretty because she was like, get cute. Put makeup on all the things. And she was like, you know, use this as your fuel. And I think that I took that and I let it motivate me because honestly, no t, no shade. I started making TikToks. Like, that was the era where I was like, oh, let me try and find something to get all this energy out. And I think, like, how I handled that is reflected in how I handle all adversity whenever people are mean on the Internet. Like, okay, well, now I have to go harder. Like, now I. Because I have all this energy in myself. Because whether you want to acknowledge it or not, that sadness is energy. It can be put into something else. You don't have to just lay there and wallow in it. And I just kind of look at, like, how things have gone for me in terms of deciding to move to Texas, deciding to do social media, doing all this, everything for the plot, blah, blah, blah. Like, that situation has honestly led me directly to where I am, like, today. And not in a bad way. Like, I was just talking to Kousi about this. I'm thankful for that situation now because hindsight, there are so many offshoot things I learned about myself and how to process emotion for, like, to be 29 and being in the spotlight and having people have an opinion of, like, I can link everything back to, like, okay, I. You know, there's a web. It's a web. Like, all of that.

[Mecca]

It's always a web, dude.

[Jamila]

It's always a web.

[Mecca]

When I make decisions, especially important decisions, I'm very, very keen on following your intuition. There are, like, signs. Personally, this is just the me thing. I don't know if everybody feels this way, but I truly feel like there. There be, like, glaring signs for the way in which you should go. It's almost like, bitch, the yellow brick fucking road. Like, bitch, do this. There's a reason you keep getting led to this one decision. There's a reason you keep having this. This voice in the back of your head saying, do this, do this, do this, bitch, do it. Like, and if it doesn't work out, or if it's steering in the wrong direction or if you feel like, you know, it didn't go the way you planned, I still feel like you made the right decision because this, even the thing that's going wrong was supposed to happen so that it can lead you into this direction. And that's how I view everything. Like, anytime something is going wrong, and I'll be Down. I'll be like, why is this happening to me? Then I'll like, will you change your perspective?

[Jamila]

Let me lock in.

[Mecca]

No, like, will you change your perspective? That's like, he ate that. Like, yes. Like, literally. Actually, I could sit here and wallow in this pain, or I could realize, hey, there's a reason for this. Let me lock the fuck in and let me change course. Like, bad things happening to you is also a part of the plan. You cannot have a perfect fucking life, bitch. This is not tv. This is not Disney Channel.

[Jamila]

So it's really not even the Disney Channel. Bitches don't have perfect life.

[Mecca]

Hello. You have to go through conflict so that you can get resolution. You have to have these bad things happen so that you can learn these lessons, so that you can know how to navigate and maneuver. And sometimes I feel like we have this conversation of, why me? Why me? Why me? And it's like, well, why not? Like, why do you think you're above having bad things happen to you? Why do you think that bad things are only reserved for all these other people? Why do you think that you're above having shit happen to you? Like, that's fucking life, girl.

[Jamila]

I believe in balance. Those goddamn knees off and get back, you know? I believe in balance. You have so much good, you got to have some bad. It's okay.

[Mecca]

The yang and the yang, right?

[Jamila]

And that's when I say I take everything back to that. Like, even how I handle things that I don't like that are happening to me. Like, I'm definitely. I take that to myself. I have a couple days to cry. Like, even down to. This is going to get, like, real dark. But when my dad got his dementia diagnosis, I took, like, 48 hours and was like, everything's different now. This, like, nothing is going to be the same, right? And after that, I said, okay, now what do we do? Because we got to figure out what the fuck. Like, we can't change this. I have to figure out what the fuck to do. Like, I am so thankful that my mom, like, really taught me to. What is this whole space for the emotion. Process it, feel it. Because bottling it up isn't going to do anything for you, like, but kill you, honestly. Like, it's going to kill you. So you need to feel it, but don't let it, like, dictate your life. Like, just because you're upset and sad, don't let it allow you to make a bad decision that's going to affect you 10 years from now, you know? Because the pendulum has to switch. It has to get better. Damn, so many sliding mirrors and glasses.

[Mecca]

Make sure you have Windex on you at all times. You never know. You have to slide that glass and.

[Jamila]

Look out of it and it don't have no motherfucking smudges.

[Mecca]

Stay vigilant.

[Jamila]

We're gonna take a break.

[Mecca]

And we're back.

[Jamila]

Do you ever be thinking about, like, what life would be like if you weren't a mom? Because I feel like there are points in time that, like, when I took little moms on post, little moms enduring her. People around me were telling me, like, this has changed you. Like, I don't. I don't know if you can see, but this has this experience. You having to take care of a child has literally changed. And like, now on the other side of things, I can kind of see it in myself. But do you. How different do you think you would be?

[Mecca]

Like, so, interestingly enough, me being a mom plays right into the life I planned for myself so long ago. Like, that that was the least surprising thing that has ever happened to me. I feel like I have predicted almost every part of my life, truly and honestly, because I've. I don't know if it's prediction or plan. Also because I have always had an idea of what I want my life to be like and what decisions I want to make. And being a mom was always a part of the plan. I've always wanted to be a mom. I've always wanted to have child slash children. Like, at some point, that was always in the works. Obviously, the way in which things happen sometimes differed. Like, okay, I didn't necessarily think it was gonna happen this way, but still are part of the plan. Like, me finding out I was pregnant was the least shocking thing that ever happened to me because I knew I was pregnant from the moment I was inception. Everybody would tell you. Like, I literally. The story of me finding out I was pregnant is so funny because I had a pre scheduled OB appointment already. I went to the doctor, I said, girl, make sure you get a pregnancy test because I am pregnant. I just. I want you to know that I'm pregnant. And she was like, okay. They ran the pregnancy test and it was negative because it was still too early to tell. She was like, well, it's negative. I said, oh, girl, I'm pregnant. Oh, I'm pregnant. I knew that. I just knew. And literally a week later, I took pregnancy tests positive. Oh my gosh, how shocking. Like, I literally just knew. And I just be knowing things. I don't know y' all. I really am. That's a raven. I really am psychic. I predict so many things. I know when things are gonna happen. So sometimes the shock that I'm feeling is more so. I can't believe I keep predicting this shit. Right? It's not really like, oh, my God.

[Jamila]

I'm really psychic, guys. Literally, I'm going to have a vision.

[Mecca]

You know, I am psychic. I truly know things that are going to happen. I have a lot of dreams. I had a lot. I have a lot of very serious gut feelings about things. And I don't be wrong a lot. And sometimes even when I'm wrong, it's like, well, I could have been right. It's just how I feel.

[Jamila]

I could still be right, but I.

[Mecca]

Still feel like in an alternate universe, you was correct. But it's interesting. In an alternate universe, I feel like I would always be a mom. My life would just look different in general.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

If that makes sense. Like, in an alternate universe, I'm a plastic surgeon.

[Jamila]

Oh, I used to want to be a plastic surgeon so bad. You know, Dr. 90210. I used to love that show with Dr. A. Yeah, yeah.

[Mecca]

That was actually my first career choice. When I went to Hampton. My major was biology. I was pre med, y' all.

[Jamila]

For two weeks, I was gonna say.

[Mecca]

Then I said, bitch, please.

[Jamila]

Girl, this is hard. I can't do that.

[Mecca]

Oh, y' all are too serious. It's like real deal. Like, pre med students, y' all be so for real. Like, they do not be playing. And for me, I just be wanting to do it, just to do it, and no shade. I still feel like I could be a plastic surgeon. I watched Dr. Miami on Snapchat. I could do a boob lift. I could do a tummy tuck. I really could. I could do a fucking bbl. I really could.

[Jamila]

I really know how to sew. So I could really stitch you up very well.

[Mecca]

Like, I literally used to watch them that shit. Like, I could do that shit. But, yeah, I would do that. I feel like there's so many different alternate versions of me. What?

[Jamila]

When I was a kid, I had this baby doll that had, like, rubber skin for the effect of making it feel real. And so when I was watching Dr. 90210, I cut her up and resowed her, and she looked like Chucky. And then my mom. My mom didn't know what was like. Didn't know I was doing this, but she Knew I liked Dr. 902. Went home, she saw my doll's Name was Lucy, by the way. She saw Lucy. I wish I still had. Wait, my mom.

[Mecca]

What the hell? Mecca.

[Jamila]

What?

[Mecca]

I just remember Mecca. What did you do?

[Jamila]

She thought it was like, some type of psychopath. And I was like, oh, no. I was giving her. I was doing her stitches like Dr. Ray does on Dr. 9210. And she was like, oh, okay, let's get you in a stimulus.

[Mecca]

I was literally just giving her a nose job.

[Jamila]

Like, not a psychopath, an aspiring doctor. Great. Then she made me make take a tour of Meharry Medical College.

[Mecca]

Like, yeah, let's. She said before she was still scared. That's why she took you before. This bitch really get to the hospital.

[Jamila]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mecca]

So in an alternate universe, what do you feel like you would be? Like, who do you think you would be in alternate universe?

[Jamila]

I feel like kids are something that I. I've always kind of been indifferent to. Like, I've never envisioned myself, like, pregnant, if that makes sense. You know how some girls are like, oh, I know what I. I've never done that. I don't know what I would look like pregnant. Probably big as a house, but, like. And fucking wide spread ass nose. And I'm already.

[Mecca]

My nose was the biggest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Jamila]

Mind you, Jameela wasn't big. Jameela is like 5ft tall, and she was 89 pounds when I met her. She was all of 130 pounds. I'm talking I might bang 210.

[Mecca]

No, I weighed 166.

[Jamila]

That's what I weigh now before I gave birth.

[Mecca]

But that is me, y' all. I pre pregnancy, I was 100 pounds.

[Jamila]

I know. That's why I'm saying you were sitting. So it's like, you're big for you. But I'm. I'm actually big. Like, okay, Exactly. You gained 60 pounds. I gained 60 pounds. That's 200 plus. So I'm saying, like, I can kind of think what I would look like. I don't know. Nose. Look like a fucking bell pepper. Lips just to the sky, girl.

[Mecca]

Ooh, I was spread, baby.

[Jamila]

I was spread. Oh, spread. That's why I've never. So I feel like I could have kids or I couldn't. Honestly, after little moms came to live with me, I was like, okay. Totally good on the child experience. Got it. You know, experienced it. Felt the joy of motherhood. Like, if it happens for me again, excellent. If it doesn't also, excellent. Like, I feel completely satisfied. Like, my thirst has been quenched. But that's not to say that I wouldn't still have a baby. So I feel like the alternate. How you said the alternate versions of you. They definitely have kids. I feel like there are different versions of me because as such a go with the flow ass pitch, I could see myself Tracee Ellis Ross, no kids. I could see myself married to a Nigerian with five kids. I could see myself married to a nice man from Texas with one kid. Like, I can see a bunch of different things. So I don't know. I think it really just depends on who I end up with, honestly, which will determine whether the kids come for sure.

[Mecca]

I also feel like. So when I was younger, so. Okay, let me preface this by saying I truly think that children are super tapped into many different realms. This is my tenfold hat moment.

[Jamila]

Yeah. Wait, before you start yours, you know mine. Do. Do you know this? I have a son as well? No, I really do. I had a spooky bitch tell me I have a son and my abortion. But wait, no, you just. I even forgot to say this part, that this is how untapped into children I am. My abortion baby daddy. I knew I was pregnant that weekend because a spooky bitch came up to me in the club and told me I need to be careful because my son, he wants to come back. Like, this has been my baby in a. In a past life. And lo and behold, I was pregnant. And like, in the time you said, hell, no, not yet.

[Mecca]

Not yet.

[Jamila]

Little nigga have to wait. And he would have been.

[Mecca]

It still ain't your time.

[Jamila]

It still ain't your time, son. Sun, sunshine, sunlight, y' all.

[Mecca]

Time.

[Jamila]

But then when I. In the pictures that I took from that weekend, because it was my birthday weekend, it's like these little orbs in the picture. It's really freaky. It's like these little orbs in the picture that's like. That's so crazy. And then even one of the. I don't know how to. How much I believe this, but when my abortion baby daddy was trying to get back with me, like years ago, she. He was talking about. I had a dream about our son. He came to me, I said, I bet the fuck he did. So, yeah, every time I'm in business, I always be, you need to pull out. Because I got a son that want to.

[Mecca]

I got a son waiting to be born.

[Jamila]

I got a son waiting to be born. And that little nigga done tried to come back before child.

[Mecca]

That's actually insane. That's fucking crazy. That is not even what I was gonna say. But okay, I was gonna say, so this is my tinfoil hat theory of spookiness, right? I truly feel like children are tapped into different realms, whether that be the spiritual realm, different universes, different realms, right? They are so tapped in because if you ever just listen to Noah speak, I'm telling you guys, it's spooky. Ooky. So I say that to say, when I was younger, I used to claim that I was going to be so many different professions. Like, that was one of the things that I was known for. Asked me what I was going to be when I grew up. And it was going to be a different answer every goddamn time. Like, you can ask my parents. It was just a known thing that I would just say any goddamn thing. And I would also just be very, very. Like, I was always very confident in myself as a kid and that, like, maintained. Like, I've always been very, like, no, I'm gonna do this, and I would do it, like. So I think that I've maintained a level of, like, not even discernment. I don't know what word it would be called, but just really knowing what you're gonna do and doing it. Intuition, I suppose. Like, I've always had that. And I definitely maintain that it's just been kind of limited and narrowed to something that makes a little bit more sense for my current. But I think that was my child me's way of saying, you're gonna do all of these things in different universes, bitch. So in an alternate universe, I'm a bus driver. I am. That was one of my main career goals as a kid. I wanted to be a bus driver.

[Jamila]

Bus drivers make a decent living and they're technically state workers.

[Mecca]

That's all I wanted to do. I used to say I was going to be a police officer. I don't know what kind of fuck ass shit I was talking about then, but in the alternate universe, I'm a bitch ass pig.

[Jamila]

Blue lives matter. Jameela.

[Mecca]

Hello. There's a couple of realities of me out there. And here's my second theory. I truly believe that when we experience deja vu, our universes are aligning in some sort of way and our consciousness is starting to disconnect and reconnect. And that's why it feels like, wait a minute, what's going on here? What's going on here? Our universes are aligned in that moment. I feel like we are experiencing that universe together.

[Jamila]

I do agree. I do agree that children are way tapped in. I think that if you watch that, what's that one TikTok show where it's like the kids be either talking to a ghost of like someone they've never fudgeing met because they're two years old and that person died five years ago and they know exactly who the fuck that person is. The most recent one I saw was of a little baby girl. She was like one. She was. She was walking, but she was still very little. And she was like, mommy, your daddy said he missed you. He's right there. And she was like, what? She was like, yeah, your daddy with the beard, he's right there. He said he misses you. He loves you. Like, it was freaky as fuck. But then also, if I think about myself as a child, I was pretty tapped in. I still feel things now, but, like, the way I think, like, there's too much proof. And my proof is the way how I reacted and told my mom. So it's like the things I was telling my mom, I can't explain those. Like, I slept with my mom until I was 8 years old because I was. I would. There was people in my room. And although I don't remember seeing any people, I definitely remember going in my room and feeling heavy presence of like people in my room. I was like, not sleeping in here for real. And even then it would be like when I would go to my mom's room and I wouldn't feel as many, but obviously I felt safer because my mom was right next to me. But I would still feel like one or two. Like still in here, but my mom's right here, so fuck off. You know, like. Like that type of shit. Also, I have. When I was a kid, I saw my grandma, like, right. Right after she died. Mind she died in our. In our house. And then after she passed away, they. They will. When she went into hospice, they bought her in a. In a. Was this the. The hospital bed in her room? And then her cute canopy, she let them put it in my room. So like went into my princess theme. So that was like one of her last little gifts to me. And like after she died, I saw her sitting on my bed and I was like really freaked out. I wasn't even freaked out. I was just confused because my aunt Lola had explained death to me. And she was like, your grandma's in heaven. She's watching over you. And I like, me and her used to do tea parties and in my room. So I would remember, I looked at her. I was like. Like, I didn't say anything, but I was like, more so.

[Mecca]

Like, something ain't right.

[Jamila]

What are you doing here? They said you were dead. And I remember saying, like.

[Mecca]

Like.

[Jamila]

Like I just looked at her and did this, and she just smiled at me. And I was like, okay.

[Mecca]

Period.

[Jamila]

Because my grandma was, like, a very sweet lady. She had, like, what? Sometimes, like, she didn't feel like talking because she was one of those, you know, old people. They just be like. And as a. As a talkative ass child, so often she would do that. Turned around, turned back around, she was gone. Said, wow. So, yeah, you know, shit like that be happening.

[Mecca]

It's.

[Jamila]

I definitely think kids are tapped in.

[Mecca]

It's so weird. They're so tapped in, like. And it's like you. We don't realize it because you'll miss it also. That's the thing. You'll miss it. So Noah is four. So he's a toddler. And his speech is. He's gathering his speech, right? He's learning as he goes. So there will be some sentences that are very coherent. You can understand exactly what he says. And the other sentence, girl, I don't know what the hell he say, okay? Gibberish. Just. I don't know what the fuck he be saying. And so sometimes. And if you live with toddlers, you know this, sometimes you ignore them. You do. Because they just talk. They just say things all day long. But sometimes you'll hear them say something, and you have to lock in quickly. Don't acknowledge. Let me tell you something. If you want to witness them having a interaction with a realm, don't pay too much attention. Just lock in with them ears, because I'm telling you, you are going to hear some freaky stuff. And it's so interesting to me. It doesn't scare me. I've told y' all, I've dealt with the spiritual realm.

[Jamila]

Noah has said that she had to.

[Mecca]

Lock in by far. When we had buried my grandmother, most recently, we were getting into. We had just put her into the hearse. We were finna go to the cemetery, and Noah, he's in my arms. He's pointing across the field. He goes, nana's right there. Nana's right there. There's nothing across the field, obviously. And I'm kind of ignoring him. Cause obviously we're all distraught. He keeps saying that Nana's across the. Across the. He's like, that's Nana right there. And he starts waving at her and smiling and talking. And we're just. We're all kind of just like.

[Jamila]

It's.

[Mecca]

It was heavy. It was like, doom. Fuck. So we're just like, what the fuck?

[Jamila]

Meanwhile, he's like, hey, girl.

[Mecca]

Like, literally, you look t. Girl. Afterwards, after we buried her, we went to the cemetery was kind of far away. After we did that and we buried her, he starts talking about her again. And then he says Nana was. He's like, yeah, Nana's at the beach. Like, mind you, it's like Noah does not really have concept of some of the things that he be saying. That's how I know this is like. He's just talking unprovoked. He's like, nana was at the beach. She was at the water, at the beach. She was smiling. She was smiling. Freaky. And there's a cemetery close to where I live, right? This is funny, but it's also spooky. One day, we were driving. Sometimes he does it. Sometimes he does it. It just depends on the day. One time, we were Dr. By I kid y' all not. Noah goes, look at all those people. What people? Driving what people? I don't want to look.

[Jamila]

I don't want to see no people.

[Mecca]

Knowing the people.

[Jamila]

The people.

[Mecca]

Look at all these sickens. He. He says that often whenever we drive by cemeteries. Like, he's. He's done it a couple of times, and he's mentioned my grandmother a few times at home. Like, you know, couple of weeks, months after she's passed. And it's not because I was talking about her. He'll just. Unprovoking be like, something, something Nana. And I'll be like, wait, what? And then he'll be like, what? And he'll. But it's so interesting. That's why I say sometimes you can't engage them too much. Because I truly like. It'll. It'll escape them. He'll be telling you something, or he'll just be talking. Then you'd be like, wait, what did you say? And he'll be like, huh? Like, he'll be confused, too. Bitch, I don't know what I'm saying. I was just a vessel. Those kids are vessels.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

So sometimes when you interrupt them too much, it'll be gone. Sometimes you have to just lock in and listen.

[Jamila]

Yeah, that makes sense. Spooky.

[Mecca]

Ooky. But it's.

[Jamila]

It's.

[Mecca]

It's cool. I don't know.

[Jamila]

I can't wait till. Well, that's a bad reason to have a baby. But I would have a baby so I can be connected to the other side. What the fuck's going on, man? Let me know what they're doing. Need to Get Noah some fucking tarot cards.

[Mecca]

Listen, we're tapped in, you know, we're very. We're a very. Listen, I wish that I could focus on my powers a little bit more, but then maybe I don't need to do that, because then I'll be too powerful for my own good. But just know that. So. Raven, I'm coming for you, bitch. I see the future.

[Jamila]

Whenever stuff gets too heavy, I have. I be like, uh, don't do that. Cause it's like. Even though, you know, it's like, I don't. Please. Like, I remember when I first moved into my old house before this one, and. And Lil Moms used to swear up and down that shit was haunted. And I couldn't even, like, acknowledge that because when I first. Yeah, yeah. She was like, there's a lady in my room. And I'd be like, no, there isn't full time.

[Mecca]

There probably is.

[Jamila]

The first night I moved there is when my dad's still living with me, right?

[Mecca]

And he.

[Jamila]

And this is right when he. When his dementia started showing signs. First of all, I would be coming in from work, that nigga in there talking to somebody. Now, it's easy to explain away, like, who the hell you talking to? But then he would be like, oh, I was talking to. And then he would be like. And then the first night, I spent the night there alone on an air mattress because they were going to move my stuff in. My dad had stayed in my old house. I had, like, a little table that I did. I had them bring a table, swear on everything I love. I put, like, a lip gloss or something in the middle of the table. Just putting stuff down randomly. I wash the shit fly off. Like, someone had.

[Mecca]

Oh, that was fun.

[Jamila]

No, I was gonna say. And it was my first night, and I literally. I had to do something. I said, hey, hey, hey, hey. I come in peace. We ain't gonna do all that, though. We ain't gonna do all that. Y' all don't. Y' all don't with me. I don't with you. But, I mean, like, clearly someone went bow all this. I said, oh.

[Mecca]

The funny thing about spirits, it's like every time I talk about this with people who are really scared of it, it's so funny to me because they'll be like, shut up, shut up, shut up. That was me.

[Jamila]

It's like, what you supposed to do? The shit's already on the ground.

[Mecca]

I want you to know that whether you see it happening or not, the spirits are everywhere. Baby, you cannot. There's no such thing as a haunted house. Every house you go to is haunted. I hate to break the news to you now. Some houses are more filled than others because some. Some spirits kind of just mingle and just walk in and out. Some spirits be up in there, bitch, and they just. They live there and it is. You ever been sitting on your bed?

[Jamila]

Hold the hell on.

[Mecca]

Have I. I've not only felt the. The sloop of somebody sitting down, I've.

[Jamila]

Seen the dent and see when they be doing stuff like that.

[Mecca]

I've had many of occurrences. Like, I've had many of occurrences.

[Jamila]

I can keep it cool, but I just be. I be. Shay. Be calm. Don't do too much. Stay calm. Mm. Mm.

[Mecca]

I'm so used to it these days. I'll just be like this.

[Jamila]

That's as far as I can go.

[Mecca]

Okay, okay. Okay, now. All right. Now. It's so interesting and so funny. Like, damn. Yeah, you. Y' all. You know what I'm saying? But here's the thing, y' all. And I know y' all don't want to hear me say this, but it is what it is. Most of the spirits and spooky, ooky things that you experience, they're not bad. They're not bad. You would know if you encountered. You can feel that something dark.

[Jamila]

Listen, you know, this is to all my. My Christians.

[Mecca]

How.

[Jamila]

How y' all catch the Holy Ghost in church?

[Mecca]

You.

[Jamila]

You. You start all that stepping and shit, and you don't think a little. A little. Little ghosty ghost can be in your house. But you just had a spirit come and use your body as a vessel so you can run up and down, down the church house. What's the difference?

[Mecca]

Hello.

[Jamila]

It's just. Okay, well, if. If it could do this, it could do that. All the hoot and holland. All the hooter ringing, hollering, hooting.

[Mecca]

Ha.

[Jamila]

All that hood and holla. Child, what I. What I know is I need Hooda and Jeremiah.

[Mecca]

My villa. God. And by this time next week, they will be. They better be out of my fucking villa, God damn it. Mark my words.

[Jamila]

Well, shit, let's spin it.

[Mecca]

We're gonna take a break. And we're back.

[Jamila]

Welcome to our segment, Spin it, where we take your nasty, low down, messy, gutter, snipe, salacious situations and put a little PR spin on them. Now, full disclosure, Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We just studied communications in undergrad and we love to give everyone a little personal PR spin to help them get through their mess. Remember to email unhinged anymore, podmail.com. and in your emails, don't forget to include your race, your sex, and your ages. These things are important. Also, maybe add where you live, because that also is going to influence what we tell you. Jamila, what do we have this week?

[Mecca]

This is an update to last week.

[Jamila]

Oh, wait, wait, wait. We need to. We need to explain the situation. We can't assume that they listened last week.

[Mecca]

So. So Angela is the girl. So Angela went out with her friend Tatiana. They had fell out at some point. Then they rekindled their friendship. Tatiana has a friend named Alex who is gay. And now they're a little trio. Tatiana is dating a nigga, Louis, who is poly.

[Jamila]

A swinger.

[Mecca]

Swinger. Poly, whatever.

[Jamila]

He fucks multiple people, right?

[Mecca]

And she's cool with it. Tatiana, they all go out. Tatiana goes to the restroom. Angela starts dancing on Louis. Alex records them and it kind of becomes an issue, but she makes it up with Tatiana. Tatiana was like, it's cool, girl or whatever, whatever. But she was kind of feeling like she don't know she should be cool with Alex anymore. That's kind of weird. Yeah, that's the gist.

[Jamila]

There we go.

[Mecca]

There we go. All right.

[Jamila]

So, boom.

[Mecca]

Louis has a girlfriend, from what I understand. And he's still friends with my friend, so I understood they were just cool. I didn't nastily go to Alexx or anything. I asked him if I was wrong or something and he said no, fuck it, who cares? With Alexx, he talks so bad about Tatiana. He reads Tatiana fulfilled every time he gets upset not saying they're friends, but. But he thinks he's. She's beneath him. Me and Tatiana fell out because we went to brunch and they met some guys. I had a boyfriend at the time, so I wasn't taking any of them. I wasn't talking to any of them. They wanted to go back to their Airbnb and me the only driver. I said no, and they lost their mind about it. I'm not going to a bunch of men's Airbnb. I have a man. And that's wild. Lol. Update. I haven't spoken to Alex since that night like that. He did invite me to his birthday party next week, so we will see how that goes. Okay, that's the update.

[Jamila]

Okay, so you know what? Let me just say this. And again, these people are in their late 30s and 40s. I don't understand why they were so mad at you when they could have called an Uber.

[Mecca]

Right?

[Jamila]

That is a little I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Angela, you low key done redeemed yourself.

[Mecca]

Because now hold on, like, okay, I.

[Jamila]

Would have been like, no, I have a boyfriend.

[Mecca]

Y' all late to fall out. That's such a dumb falloutable, especially at 40. So I can see how you are kind of just like y' all are like, y' all are unserious.

[Jamila]

Yes, y' all unserious. And you're dating a swinger with a girlfriend. And he asked me to dance and I just threw some butt on him. This dance should have.

[Mecca]

You should. I still personally wouldn't have danced. Cause that's.

[Jamila]

But I feel like should have added why you. Why you fell out last week. Because it would have add it to the context of you feeling like they're unserious and examples to add up how they're unserious. But what I will say is what I took from this is that these people are incredibly male centered. So you dancing with one of them's quote unquote, man was always going to be an issue because they center men. Because the fact that women would expect. If your homegirl who got a man. Yeah. You might invite her out and maybe depending on y' all dynamic, maybe you ask her to be a wing woman and keep it cute. So you can do a two piece or a three piece. But even it gets to a point, and at a certain age, it's like, I'm not even gonna ask you to do that. We too grown for that. And again, I think they said they were in their late 30s, early 40s, somewhere in there. So it's like they were. Y' all too grown for this type of shit. Getting mad at me. Cause I ain't take you to a N. Airbnb.

[Mecca]

It feels like these two people are not your besties and they don't get fucked.

[Jamila]

For real. Cause I feel like if you're really getting dick. This is stupid. This is. This is. This is stupid. Bitches who really get. That's why I'm saying you could tell when bitch is not used to getting niggas, like. Cause going crazy over not going to one group of niggas. Airbnb is like, like, come on.

[Mecca]

The N is there.

[Jamila]

Why you like, okay, we can do the same shit next.

[Mecca]

They got the Henness.

[Jamila]

This is stupid. Yeah, I'm with you, Angela. I'm not talking to that bitch for either the fuck bitch.

[Mecca]

Yeah. It just kind of sounds like y' all are just like, whatever, friends. Like, not that close of friends, which is Cool shit.

[Jamila]

Go to his party.

[Mecca]

Yeah, go to his party. I mean like he's clearly talking shit about Tatiana.

[Jamila]

He's clearly talking shit about Tiana.

[Mecca]

Don't tell him your business. Yeah, don't tell him your business. You know what I'm saying? Like fuck. Like he's messy, you're messy, she's messy. Everybody's messy and older and just needs to like find something to on and have a good day.

[Jamila]

Yeah, I mean this is a really nothing's that. This is a good wrap up though. I'm glad you gave us an update.

[Mecca]

Yeah. And we have a new spin it as well.

[Jamila]

Okay, great. Because you know I was gonna say.

[Mecca]

Okay, they gonna get mad at us, right? You. We heard y' all critiques, you know y' all want an update and a fresh one. Yes, ma' am. Yes, sir. Sorry. Greetings girl world. I am a man. I know, I know. A man submitting a spin it.

[Jamila]

That's crazy.

[Mecca]

This is gonna be good. Let's lock in, ladies. Let's lock in. I'm a man recently in his 30s. I have been a Mecca Valley follower since 2023. You may refer to me as Barnes. If and oh if you so please. I'm typing this from my NSFW email. What does that mean? Not safe for work. Oh, how messy is this gonna get? Which is why the URL is what it is. But I needed it to be anonymous. Okay, to the point. I have a long distance situation with an age mate for three years, but we are not yet ready to move in or anything official given that our situation made it difficult to do so at the moment. But I am in love with her and she loves me as well. We can call her Noble. I have Barnes.

[Jamila]

Barnes said I'm gonna write a story, baby you go we. I'm give y' all my own names because bitch ass names y' all come up with ain't good enough. Okay.

[Mecca]

I have never had anyone who I feel so open and vulnerable with. We connect on so many levels and she's truly a once in a lifetime person. I have made it known many times that I want her to be my girlfriend and then wife moving forward once life stops beating our asses and we can make things worse. Whilst Noble and I have our connection, we likely see other people. And while she doesn't like to see my doings with others, she knows that I do what it do safely. Then we meet when we can. Throughout the year. Recently I met a woman whom I only had intended to have a transactional relationship with we can call her boarders these names like you're such a boy.

[Jamila]

He be in the bookstore.

[Mecca]

Borders is 21 years old.

[Jamila]

Barnes. You're losing me.

[Mecca]

Barnes.

[Jamila]

Barnes.

[Mecca]

Bring it back in, Barnes.

[Jamila]

Immediately.

[Mecca]

Keep going, Jamila. Let me Continue. Born in 2004, Barnes. That don't even sound right.

[Jamila]

But the year, the year goodies dropped.

[Mecca]

Are you kidding me?

[Jamila]

She don't even know the one two step, Barnes. Okay, keep going.

[Mecca]

Okay, let me gather myself. While getting to know each other for comfort and safety purposes, she and I began to really converse and she oppressed me a lot. She's smart, handy, caring, nurturing, sexy and sweet. Nearly all of the same qualities I love about Noble. In her own way, Borders and I have begun to. Something tells me Borders is Hispanic. Let me lock in Borders. What? I just feel like he's trying to give us clues on what these ladies are like.

[Jamila]

Noble is black. Noble.

[Mecca]

Black queen. Noble is black queen. She settled and she's a good lady.

[Jamila]

Please finish this letter. We have to do this afterwards.

[Mecca]

Okay, let me lock in. Let me lock in. Okay. Borders and I have really begun to really like each other. And she wants an official relationship soon. However, I felt weird about our age difference since day one. As you should. And of course there is my connection with Noble. Should I explore this new relationship idea? And if so, how do I begin to explain or get around the decade in age gap, especially after being vocally anti age gap for years? Or should I spare this young woman's feelings? Knowing where my heart truly is at the moment, I figured I would ask the age gap experts here.

[Jamila]

Not only is this nigga, you trying to. You trying to send a shot, Barnes? Well, first of all, Barnes, as someone who has participated in age gap dating, my one rule of thumb is I believe everyone should be over the age of 25. So that everyone has their frontal lobe. It does not mean as it is impossible to get manipulated, but it is less likely because you do have a little bit more experience under your belt. This young woman does not even fall into that category. So that's where we're starting Barnes and Noble. You don't get it. Barnes and Noble, they're books.

[Mecca]

He's.

[Jamila]

And Borders is the other bookstore. That's why I said he's book like.

[Mecca]

He'S bookish like you think you're funny.

[Jamila]

It was a little funny. I laughed.

[Mecca]

Let me. Let me tell you something, Barnes. You like borders. 21 year old young ass. Because she's hot, fresh. She's the hottest thing happening right now. She's the new shiny thing in front of you. This is the same issue we have on Love Island. Boys want to go for the next biggest and most. She's definitely throwing that thing on you.

[Jamila]

Putting puss on you.

[Mecca]

The thing is, the reason age, large age gaps don't work is just because you guys do not have anything for each other. You were just talking about you were ready for marriage with Noble. Do you think that 21. 21 year old bitch is ready for marriage? Seriously, with your old ass? And I say that as somebody who's 29. Obviously you're not old in life, but you're old to fucking her. She's not going to marry your ass. She's having a good time and you're probably tricking her ass out.

[Jamila]

I feel like she's having a great time. Okay, so what Barnes said is that Borders is at the point where she wants a relationship. And see, that's. That's another. That's.

[Mecca]

She's 21.

[Jamila]

Yeah, I was gonna say that's another tricky thing about dating someone so young because what you're trying to do in terms of lightly date until your actual person is ready to settle down, someone who is closer to your age is going to understand that and be able to process that better than someone who's 21. That's why this is a dangerous game. She is. I think that you should leave her alone simply because she hasn't even got her feelings hurt hard enough to understand it's possible to just fuck a nigga. She feels like she. Y' all have to be in a relationship.

[Mecca]

And when you're that young, like the thing is, when I'm thinking back to when I was 21 and dating, if I was to be dating a 30 year old man, which I wouldn't have at 21. Cause I. I'm scared of older men.

[Jamila]

Honestly, at 21, I would be in there. 30 was old and decrepit and ew.

[Mecca]

So yeah. But I did. But I did date someone who was older than me, who was five years older than me. Right? And everything he did, I amped up in my mind times 10, if that makes sense. Because in my mind this older guy really likes me and oh my God, I really like him too. And I would totally want to be his girlfriend. But it was more so because of the thought of it versus me actually realizing me and this nigga are not on the same playing field right now. We're just not. And me at 29, I'm telling you, I don't have anything to talk to a 21 year old about.

[Jamila]

I don't. I can't think of what me and a 21 year old man would talk about or a woman.

[Mecca]

And you're saying she impressed you and that's because you know that she's 21 and so you're looking at her like little thing. Little, little young thing. And you probably stunning her. And that's also why I can't talk to older n s Because they always want to be like, what you know about? Well, shut your old ass up, please, Unc. Damn. You don't even know. Yeah, yeah, let me put you on game. I don't want to be what you.

[Jamila]

Know about this speaker knockers you ain't even know about. Put on speaker knockers.

[Mecca]

You just said out loud that that little heifer was born in 2004.

[Jamila]

You ain't got no milk.

[Mecca]

Are you fucking.

[Jamila]

Wait what Pete Pablo tells Ciara in the year of our Lord 2004. You ain't got no milk in your tongue. Slow down, little one. We ain't got a lot.

[Mecca]

I'm disgusted. Like she doesn't know one tooth. She's gen a. She's gen a now dating a gen aer.

[Jamila]

That's crazy.

[Mecca]

Please, nigga. You was born in what?

[Jamila]

He said he's 30. So he's 95. 95 or 94? Cause he said he's 30. He's close to 30.

[Mecca]

If you don't get you a old bitch. What Monique say, get you one of them old bitches, Shannon.

[Jamila]

And you see, and you see, and you see what happened with them, it's.

[Mecca]

Not gonna end well. It's just not gonna end well. Truthfully speaking, it's not gonna end well. Give Noble a chance and maybe put forth the effort.

[Jamila]

It's not even that because he's from what the way I perceived what he was saying was Noble and him are at the point where they're not living in the same place. They're obviously still trying to do career stuff. So right now for them to be exclusive. It is really hard to be exclusive when you're in a long distance relationship. I can speak to that. But like, I don't think they were long distance. Didn't it say they were not in the same place?

[Mecca]

No, they didn't say that. Oh, he didn't say that. My thing is, if you feel this way about Noble, why do you all of a sudden feel like you're ready to get a relationship with Borders then?

[Jamila]

I don't think he wants to get in a Relationship with Borders. I think he said Borders wants to be in a relationship with him. And he's like, should I still?

[Mecca]

And he said he's asking us, should he explore that? No, no, no, he shouldn't.

[Jamila]

I don't think he should. I think you should find another 30 year old bitch who just wants to fuck. Since you and Noble have come to agreement that y' all are the mains and y' all can have some side pieces. So stick to the plan. This the problem with niggas. Stick to the plan. Y' all don't ever want to stick.

[Mecca]

To the goddamn plan. Niggas never want to stick to the plan. Like, no, you are supposed to be my man in a year.

[Jamila]

You're supposed to be my man next year. We agreed on this. Fucking focus. Why would you go get a girlfriend? Barn. A Barn. You're Barnes, not Barnes and Borders.

[Mecca]

Nigga. Hello. That don't even go together, you know that.

[Jamila]

Please go get some 30 year old in the club who just want to fuck. This is what you do, Barnes. Go get you some heifer who got married or locked in with a nigga in her early 20s. And right now they just broke up and she's on. She's on a rampage. You need to find them girls who are your age who are on the rampage because they spent their early 20s when they was Border's age locked down and now they just want to fuck. That's who you need to find. So you can go ahead, get your rocks off when you need to get your rocks off. And then when no bullying, you figure it out. You can go back to your woman. Period.

[Mecca]

Exactly. And. And leave that little heifer alone.

[Jamila]

And. And stay away from them ladies under 25 child.

[Mecca]

And the thing is. And this is. Listen to what I'm saying. I'm not saying that you're manipulating this 21 year old girl. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is, at 21, you are easily manipulated, even if that person is not manipulating you. What I mean by that is she is going to look up at you as an authority figure, whether you intend for that to happen or not. And she is going to start to mold and shape herself into the woman that you want so that you can choose her and be with her. Why do I know that? Because I've been a 21 year old bitch before.

[Jamila]

I mean, women do that who are over 25. Women who are 30 do that.

[Mecca]

Exactly. But it's even more drastic when there's such an age gap. She's Trying to impress you. She, because in her mind she's like, this nigga's older than me. I literally, I can't, I can't come.

[Jamila]

Like this is the thing.

[Mecca]

So she's gonna try to seem like she's so independent, she's so smart, she's so witty, she's so mature for her age, you would never even know she's 21.

[Jamila]

That's why the again, post 20, pre 25, it's really hard because at least when you're 25, you've been outside for a few years. You've either gone to school, you might have got a couple degrees, or you've been in the work field, your career field for years. You have a better sense of self. And again, not impossible, because someone who's older than you can always manipulate you. But it's less likely when you're 21 and you're still very much finding yourself. I, I, this is, this is my hot take. I don't think a lot of people, men or women, go into it. Like I'm finna manipulate somebody. But like Jamila said, you're so easily influenced and so easily manipulated that the person might, that might, like you said, that might not be their intention of what they're trying to do, but then you're gonna find this very young person who's trying to find their way in the world, molding themselves around you. And it's like, that's not your intention.

[Mecca]

Because at 30, you already know what.

[Jamila]

The fuck going on. You know what the fuck going on.

[Mecca]

You know exactly what your life is.

[Jamila]

You know what, you know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

You wake up, you get your coffee, you go to your job, you do this, you know exactly what your life looks like. And a lot of the times when you're 30, especially when you're 30 and up, you're not bending your life backwards for some person you're dating. But at 21, you absolutely will. And you're not even gonna say that you're doing it. You're not telling that. Oh yeah, no, I, I actually skipped work to come see you. You're not telling him that you do that, but you're gonna do it. You do stupid like that, like call out for a week just to see this. At 30, you're not doing that. 30 year olds don't do like that. They're like, I'll see you when I see you.

[Jamila]

Like, yeah, see, like you a noble. I see you when I see you. You need to find someone else who's gonna Be like I see you when I see you. Yep, yeah. Yep, yeah. Make sure you write in. I want to hear an update on this one.

[Mecca]

I want an update. I do want an update on that. Absolutely. Boy.

[Jamila]

Make sure to give us an update, boy.

[Mecca]

Look what his not safe for work email address is. What is it? Thick dick. Thick dick. You're right. It's not safe for work.

[Jamila]

Barnes. Dick Dick Barnes said baby, he got that girth.

[Mecca]

Oh, yeah. That 21 year old don't know what the fuck going on. She would have got that thick.

[Jamila]

Oh my God.

[Mecca]

Cause I remember the fact we should have led with that. We didn't even look at the camera. You're probably giving her. Oh, my God. You're probably giving her her first big thick. She probably has never.

[Jamila]

Barnes. What the fuck, bro?

[Mecca]

That changes everything. You gotta leave her now.

[Jamila]

She wants to be in a relationship. Cause you're fucking her. She's never been.

[Mecca]

You got a third leg.

[Jamila]

Yeah. You gotta leave this young lady alone, please.

[Mecca]

Oh, yeah. You gotta leave her alone. She's gonna be. Nah, she's actually gonna you up. I'm not gonna lie.

[Jamila]

And she's not even gonna go quietly, I hope you know.

[Mecca]

Yeah, yeah. She's gonna be a fight, baby. Did not let that.

[Jamila]

Just remembering the who was me good at 21. Yeah, I'm. I'm not coming up off that.

[Mecca]

Your first heavy dick will really shape you. You'll be like. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I gotta figure this out. I gotta figure this out. I gotta figure out.

[Jamila]

Good luck. Yeah.

[Mecca]

You fucked up.

[Jamila]

Yeah. You did that to yourself.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Make sure you give us an update. My God.

[Mecca]

I need an update. And a picture. Evidence exhibit A.

[Jamila]

Hey. Hey. What? What? What Jesse do on Secret Lives of Mortal Wives. This is his dick.

[Mecca]

I just want to know. I would like to give me an honest. An honest review of yourself. I want to know on a scale of 1 to 10 what that face is giving. Because if you got that thick dick on you and you're a nine and.

[Jamila]

Up and you eat ice, I fear.

[Mecca]

We have a beast on our hands.

[Jamila]

And you did that to someone who's 21.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Give us your stats immediately.

[Jamila]

No, I give us your stats.

[Mecca]

I need your stats.

[Jamila]

Well, this drops on.

[Mecca]

We need the full rap sheet.

[Jamila]

This is a Thursday. This drops on Thursday. You need to be done with that girl by Friday because you're gonna have to spend the neck the rest of the summer for real getting her up off you. Because she's not coming.

[Mecca]

She not done with you yet.

[Jamila]

She's not.

[Mecca]

Yeah, you might even get a slash tire out of it.

[Jamila]

I. I did slash a tire at her age.

[Mecca]

You want to with them young, don't you? Listen, that's what you get. Congratulations, Dick. Dick.

[Jamila]

Oh my God. Well, let's get to these comments, child. We're gonna take a break. And we're back.

[Mecca]

So we are about to read some of yalls lovely comments that you all have been leaving under our videos. Make sure you guys are engaging with the content. Are you guys following us on Instagram, TikTok and Twitter? Are you guys engaging with the comments? Are you engaging with the content? I really hope so, Shan. I mean, no shade to DC Young fly. But look at how fast he moved on in comparison to Vanessa Bryant and Nipsey. It's really all about women. Anything they can find. Wrong.

[Jamila]

Did he move on?

[Mecca]

Yikes. I was gonna say did he move? I didn't know he moved on. I didn't see that.

[Jamila]

I never. I haven't seen him with no women. And he's always with his babies on his knees, praying, talking about how much he missed Miss Jackie. I just saw that because her birthday just passed. Yeah, I feel like he the only one who. Who ain't got no.

[Mecca]

Yeah, I don't. I don't see that. Maybe you think about somebody else. Maybe you misinterpreted something. I don't think he moved on, but hey, I don't know.

[Jamila]

I believe he's though probably maybe we wouldn't know about it.

[Mecca]

Lydia says, first off, your Kimis was beautiful, fellow Habasha. The diaspora wars have to stop, child. They never will. Natatoubi said the gay conversation is hilarious. I'm not gonna lie. I understand where Mecca is coming from. The interest is there, but maybe the wind would have pushed her further in that direction given the certain circumstances.

[Jamila]

It's a spectrum, guys. It's a. Everybody want to say sexuality. A spectrum till it's time for it to be an actual spectrum. And that's all I'm gonna say on that.

[Mecca]

Well, then you better fuck a bitch by the end of the year. Next. Jade says, any relationship Kanye and drake been in 1000% PR. Side note, I love the way Jamila says puss. Puss takes me out every time that puss Drico says, happy pride month. Question mark. Carla says, the audio from Harlem Nights. The audio is from Harlem Nights. Shout out to the black women in male dominated films. Auntie talking was a pimp. LOL.

[Jamila]

And so I'll be doing from YouTube say it like it is. 562 said although I hate it and I'm not falling for it. Jonathan Majors and Megan Good's commitment to the plot is honestly award worthy. Marriage question mark Be they committed to it. They really did. They locked in B. Boyd and that's what we're saying. It started as pr. There was some interest. Just it took a little further. That's why like you get I'm saying mutually beneficial.

[Mecca]

Let's go for it.

[Jamila]

B boy3260 said Jamila is fed up with Mecca. I'm crying. Janelle8073 said, I firmly believe Ariana and Victoria stop being friends because Victoria knew she couldn't bring her around her baby daddy. Alyssa underscore said the straight face Jamila gave Mecca. I can't stop laughing. She's not convinced. She only dated the girl undefined beauty 28:47 said Jamila said, what did you dibble in Mecca? No, for real, it's okay. Tavi talked says, so glad y' all are talking about this at 9 minutes and 49 seconds. Another creator, real Talk with Yanni, has a theory that black women are being targeted with hate from bots pretending to be other black women. And then Deja Omari9123 said, I remember when my male BFF got shot and killed in high school. We were genuinely friends. No funny stuff. I was so distraught at the at his funeral, his girlfriend and family was looking at me crazy. I feel like that's different because you were in high school and like the first time you experienced death as like an adolescent. It's very traumatic. So, like, I don't think that that was like, necessarily like, like side chick ish. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a little different. That's a little different.

[Mecca]

Rest in peace to that young man. Memory unlocked. These are from Apple F SF 29 says Mecca the Live Action. Peter Pan was my kid Crush 2 LMFAO only little white boy I ever had a crush on. Love the show. Always feel like I'm sitting with my homegirls.

[Jamila]

Exactly. He was T. Guys, don't forget to like, comment and subscribe and subscribe to our Patreon. $3 a month. Don't forget to write in so we can spin it for you. Shout out to Barnes Noble and Borders this week and Tati, Angela and Alex last week and I think that's pretty much it. I don't think we have anything else right now. Absolutely.

[Mecca]

Unhinged and Immoral is hosted by Jamila Bell and Mecca.

[Jamila]

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[Mecca]

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[Jamila]

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[Mecca]

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