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What's up, y'? All? Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged Immoral.
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I'm Jamila and I am Mecca.
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And my, oh my. Welcome back. So you guys are actually listening to an episode a little bit more up to date. You know, the past couple episodes we recorded because I was getting my titties chopped and twisted and lifted and plumped and fluffed. And now this is the first time time you guys are listening and watching me with new boobies. The Bentley has been parked.
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I'm crying. How are you feeling?
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I'm actually feeling so good. I did not. It's weird with certain things, like, you can read all you want, you can watch as many video videos as you can. It's nothing like experiencing it. So although I, for the most part knew what to expect with healing, it was still different than what I expected. Like, so for me also, if you've never experienced a certain feeling before in your body, it's hard to understand when someone's describing it for you. It's like, okay, like the concept I'm tracking, but it's still hard to understand, right? So day one, and of course, y' all know I'm. I've logged everything, so you can see everything up until Surgery Day Part 1. I still have a couple more segments to. To upload and edit, but all of this is like, you'll see all. All of this super detailed in my vlogs. Anyways, damn. The pain is not even the part. Like, it's. It's not. The pain is not what I expected because in my mind, I'm thinking the pain is going to be coming from the incision site, like where they sliced and diced me. And I'm like, okay. It's like, it's of course where they slice is going to be, you know, very painful, very tender. It's going to feel like I was, you know, stabbed. That's what I was. I was expecting that. And I was expecting, you know, tightness. I remember a lot of people saying, you know, it feels like a weight is on your chest. So I was expecting that. But
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it's.
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It's a different sensation. It is so hard to describe. It's a very different sensation. I actually never felt my incisions because it's kind of numb where my incisions are. So the incisions was the least of my worries. What I felt because my implants are under my muscle is so first of all, oh, let me give you guys a little peekaboo. So here are my boobs.
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Still, Still Very. But they're not as high as up as they were a week ago.
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No. Yeah, they're still high, but not as high as they were. So before my boobies was literally touching my clavicles, I said, my God, this is crazy. And so they were up under my muscle. So obviously my muscle is very, very tight. I could not move my arms, but I. I thought it was more. So don't move your arms so that you don't bust a stitch and stuff like that. But no, no, no, no. It was don't move them arms because that muscle is tenderoni tendonism. So I was like, okay, I'm. Now I see why. Doctor said keep them. Them arms tucked and tight. But for the first day, I was heavily medicated and I made sure to take it on the clock. So I was very in and out of sleep and consciousness for the first day. So honestly, the pain level never really got above a 6, but it was just more so a tightness and it was kind of hard to breathe. And that was kind of freaking me out because I'm very claustrophobic. So when it's hard for me to breathe, I kind of panic. So I had to really, like, calm myself down because it's not that I couldn't breathe, it's just that I felt every fucking breath because my chest is tighter than a bitch. So I was like, okay. But day three, baby, I went to bed and I guess I took my pain medication too early or I. Not that it was too early, but from the time in which I went to sleep, I woke up in so much pain and not even just on my titties. It was my back. My back was on fire. I never knew I was going to experience back pain with the, the surgery. Well, I'm not getting big titties. Like, it's not, it's not even because of the boobs necessarily. It's because when they do the implant underneath my muscle. Your chest, your chest muscles are connected to your back muscles. I'm a hunchback. So because I'm hunchback, my back was tired and aching. It was just too much. But honestly, right after day three, it was like nothing ever happened from there. So today I told you that too. I was done with the payment.
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I literally said that. I was like, yeah, I was like, day three for. I mean, if I remember correctly, after three days I was fine. But then first three days was hell, yeah.
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Day four, I think, was my last time taking the perks. And then after that, it was just more so it was still tender. Like I still didn't do too much. Like I still needed to be mindful, but I wasn't in like throbbing pain and I didn't want to get dependent on them perks. No shade. I, I'm very afraid of like that.
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So I was like the same.
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As soon, as soon as I can get off these, I'm off. So now what I'm feeling two and a half weeks post op. Honestly, if you've ever breastfed before, it feels like you have to breastfeed. Like you know, when you're a little bit engorged. That's what it feels like right now. So it's not painful, but I can feel that everything is full. It's not as tight as it was before. I pretty much have most of my range of motion back, but I still feel every bit of my booby because it's still very tight. And so now I'm in the process of, of doing my booby massages. I'm sure y' all saw that video of me massage my boob in the club. Yes, very much doing that so that I can have this little, this high part come down and give me the good meat and the juice that I'm looking for. I still have to wear my bra, which is uncomfortable and it's itchy.
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Yeah, you're gonna have to wear that for a while until your heals all the way. Yeah. Cuz that underwire is honestly is.
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It's not even the underwire. It's the fact that my skin is stretching. It's not like the bra is, is very, very tight. I think I might actually get a bigger one. The bra is very tight on my ribs. My ribs are now bruised up because of how tight the bra is and because my skin is just stretching so fast with all, you know, with the implant and stuff. My skin is making new skin and that caught, that's, that's itchy. So it's a itchy situation. So if I'm scratching my titty during the episode, y', all, that's all. You know what I mean? But they look good.
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I mean it looked good in, in your videos for sure. Well, for those who don't know, it's Easter.
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Yes.
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We're, we're recording this on Sunday instead of Monday because we're going to be on planes tomorrow for to work to live and die in la. Hey. Well, I'm not gonna die in la.
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Well, not quite.
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Yeah, but I'm kind of tired. I'm not gonna lie.
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I'm very tired. I've had a long freaking weekend. I, you know, I was outside, I was outside this weekend. This was fall, fall weekend in Atlanta. If you know, you know, I will say however, as long as I've lived in Atlanta, this was definitely the most chaotic 404 weekend. So if y' all don't know, 404 weekend is on April 4th, but it's around April 4th weekend and it's to celebrate all things Atlanta because Atlanta's area code is 404.
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404.
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Now the thing is there's with, with Atlanta and this is the thing that happens all the time. This is not even a 404 exclusive, exclusive situation. Whenever there is an event or a situation, a lot of other entities will take advantage of said situation and make the situations bigger. So for example, with 404Weekend. 404Weekend was created by a few organizations right in the 404 Collective. Other decided I' ma throw some too. So you get other promoters involved, you get other organizers involved because they also just want to capitalize off the moment, which it makes sense. And you kind of on the, on the, the low tip, it's actually a, it's a great decision because you max, you maximize your efforts based off of the efforts of somebody else who's already putting in all these, you know, marketing dollars and into it. So a lot of promoters, a lot of other people start getting involved and that's exactly what we saw then. This weekend there was an unknown number of events. This weekend traffic was
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more insane than usual. I was going to say Atlanta traffic is always dumb.
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It was, it was. Let me, let me paint a picture for you. The first day I drove, I, I, I drove Friday because it was at the gathering spot. And I've got gone to plenty of events at the gathering spot. There's two big ass garages there. I drive places like I, if, if I can drive, I'm gonna drive because I like the control of being able to go straight to my car. All the things just. And I'm just used to it. So I used.
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You don't drink like that either. So it's really.
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Exactly. So I'm not even really thinking too much into it until I get close to how mill and I see all these goddamn cars. I said ain't no way everybody going to the event I'm going to like that was, that's what I was, I was like, ain't no way all these cars is going to where I'm going. Because where I'm going is not that big so I'm literally like, okay, now where is you going? The garage was so full, I had to park in the garage across the street. So already I'm irritated because I'm like, I should have just ubered. I knew the traffic's gonna be crazy. I hate sitting in traffic. I get there and it said, it's where Holiday Bar is. If y' all are familiar, the line to get upstairs to gathering spot to get on the elevator was damn near to Holiday Bar.
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Is Holiday. Is Holiday Bar the place next to Velvet Taco?
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Yes.
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Okay, so wait, say it again. So I'm imagining it in my head again. So the line was at Holiday Bar.
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So, okay, Holiday Bars right here. Velvet Tacos right here. If you're straight and bust the right all the way down, you go to the elevators to get upstairs. Stairs to the. To the gathering Spot. The elevator line was all the way down to Holiday Bar.
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The elevator is ridiculous.
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So I'm going home. At that point, I. I woke up, I was like, hey, mind you, I'm thinking they gonna be like, oh, no, this is for something else. I was like, hey, what. What y' all in line for? They was like, oh, for the 404 in upstairs gathering Spot. I said, okay. I. Unfortunately, I had to make a call. Unfortunately, baby, I had to make a call. I said, I'm not standing in this line. And that's what I did. And I was escorted upstairs because.
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Oh, that's right.
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I'd never seen nothing. Well, you know, the homie deontay was being honored. That's why I was going. I was just trying to be a good friend. You know what I mean? I didn't know we was. I didn't know it was going like that. But it was. It was very packed, but it was. The thing is, it was still cool. And here's where we get into the issues. Atlanta. I love Atlanta forever. I love Atlanta. Shout out to Fila. But you know, these walk around with switches.
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Oh, my God, they had guns. Did someone pull a gun out?
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Not at the Gathering Spot. Because why Their security. The. The. When they're. And this is no shade. The events that was Hosted by the 404 Collective. Seamless. They might have been packed, but it was seamless. Things made sense. Whatever ass event was hosted at Piedmont was not hosted by the 404 Collective. It was by those other entities. I should have known when we crossed over, that guy didn't. Piedmont park threshold. And it was never security in that.
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It was on.
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That
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was on a.
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It's A too big Piedmont park is way too goddamn big for you to have a ton of people. And there'd be no security at all. I'm talking about they wouldn't check in a ass bag. My friend Trayon said he seen a pull a Draco out when we left.
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So now that was such a statement. That was such a statement. My homeboy Trayon said he's seen a pull a Draco out. Like that whole sentence is only. Can only be uttered in black America.
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Well y', all, it's getting hot outside again. Which means it is officially tax season. And I'm here to tell you, I am so behind and so anxious about taxes every year.
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I.
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You know, I am a single mother as well as. This is my first time filing taxes as an influencer. And I honestly have been so anxious not knowing what to do. Thankfully we have found someone to come and help us out with our taxes. Cuz, baby, I don't know what I'm
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doing, cuz child, I cannot go to jail like Wesley Snipes. Okay, I. I tried to go on the website and do a little, little type it in and I don't think them numbers was correct. So. So we have hit up our friend Tax Time Tony to help us with all of our tax filing needs.
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Absolutely. And if you're interested in getting your taxes done professionally. Now listen, I know a lot of the girls and guys be folding their arms up on them flyers to do your taxes. But if you're interested in having your taxes done professionally and legally, please hit up our good friend Tax Time Tony. You can hit him up on his website at Taxtime Tony.
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Or you can hit him on social media, Instagram, specifically at Tax Time Underscore Tony.
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So now what I'm about to tell you is going to be a two part. It's going to tell you how bad traffic was and how crazy got.
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Okay.
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A trampling occurred. Yes, a trampling occurred. There was a lot of people running. I don't know what exactly started. Cuz I wasn't in the beginning part of it. I just seen hella people running. Of course, when black folks start running, everybody start running.
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And now that's my next question. Did you run?
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No, because I didn't want to get trampled and I didn't want to lose nobody. So me and Jazz went right behind the food truck while everybody kept running. Cuz it was in. It was too much going on. Okay, so we behind the food truck while everybody, you know, because I ain't trying to get trampled, bro. I. I have too much anxiety. I've already experience the worst person experience I've ever had, bro. So we behind the food show. Let pass about. So then after that, we finally meet up with everybody, and then we're like, all right, we gotta get out of here, y'. All. Like, we already know where she's gonna go. So we go ahead and we walk out of Piedmont park to get to. So half the group drove. The other half of us, we Uber. We still have to walk out. So we walk out near where they drove, which was a parking deck. And then we was gonna call our Uber kind of after. We, you know, kept walking. But then we end up riding with my other friend because he drove too, but he. He parked on the street, far out from Piedmont. So cool. Our friends getting a they car in the. In the parking garage. We walk, walk, walk, walk, walk for ever outside of Piedmont park, hop in my friend's car. We go home. We go to his house. Since he's already parked so far away from Piedmont, we not in too much traffic. He. It takes us about 16 minutes to get to his house.
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Okay.
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It took us 30 minutes to walk to his car from the point we left the people in their car in the parking garage. Okay, so let's. Let's put some. Some math. You have some good shoes. 30. I had on sneakers. I was good.
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Okay.
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Or no. They get in their car in the parking garage. Thirty minutes later, we get to the car. Sixteen minutes later, we get to his house. Okay, we called and just kind of see where they at. They still in the parking garage. They're still in the parking garage. They're still in the parking garage.
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They haven't even made it out. So we go, oh, hell no.
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My God. So at that point, we waiting on the next function. Anyway, we start drinking, chilling. Oh, wiped.
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Boom.
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Right? We at his house, chilling. About an hour go by, another hour. Still in traffic. Just. Just made it out of the parking garage. So I'm like, okay, but this, like, I know. Like, that's a long time. What the. Then what do we do? We get on Instagram, ATL Scoop reports there was just a shootout at Piedmont Park. Somebody has died.
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That's what. And that's what I was waiting for you to say. They done waited two hours in the same spot. Somebody died. Damn.
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And somehow they made it to the function before us. We went out to shout out to social club. You know, I love y' all forever. We went out to their event. It was in play in 99. They had a party At District where Travis Porter performed with those.
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Oh, we love Travis Porter.
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Me, Jazz, Sydney and Dwight never made it to Travis. We had been out all day. I was out from 10am till almost 2am because we had Noah's birthday party
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at the zoo earlier in the day.
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So we were just so exhausted and tired that it was just like I. I simply can't wait on on travy to hit the stage. Shout out to them boys. I with them the long way. It was taking a long time for the Ubers to get to us. I'm like, yo. I'm thinking, I don't know. But yeah, that was. I had a great weekend though. You know, that's fun.
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I was outside last night too. Or yesterday. Cousins chat, little pre birthday situation. They lied to me though. They told me we was going to an influencer event.
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They, they got. I'm not gonna lie.
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They, Sabrina and Darrington got me good. They told me we was going to a streetwear influencer event.
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Mind you, that that was a, that was a risky lie. Cause I could see you saying, I don't wanna go.
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Yeah, I mean that, that. She did make it very appealing though. But Sabrina said, okay, come to this, come to this influencer event with me. It's a streetwear event, so wear some sneakers. Wear something comfortable.
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Okay. She led with comfortability.
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She led with comfortability. So I was already down. Then Darrington gets involved. Then she hits me. She's like, oh, I invited Darrington to come too. Since he has a lot of street wear clothes. He can probably, you know, make some connections. I'm like, oh great. So what do I do? I put on my you matter sweatsuit because I'm like, gotta represent. And some new balances like streetwear brand integrity, right? I pull up where and so she's like, oh, it's at paradise, which is like a club out here, but they have a rooftop. So I'm like, oh, okay. That's so Houston. The streetwear event at the rooftop on Paradise. That's so crazy, girl. We pull up, everyone's sitting there. It was so much fun. And I got really, really fucked up yesterday on accident. Cuz obviously everyone what you was on. So started. We started at their happy hour for paradise. Then we ended up going to the Spot, Idaho, continued drinking there. And then we went to Buried Seeds, which is the wine bar that Seth and Hollis.
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So you was on wine and liquor?
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I was on wine. And then the thing was they brought two bottles of wine out at Barry C's because they were all there Last
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night,
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half of spring 16. So, you know, it just went. It went. So I was on liquor, wine, and then I came home and my mom was making greens. Had been letting some greens in the crock pot all day for Easter. I ate half the pot by myself. My mom woke up this morning and was like, you ate all of the greens? I said, they were so good. In fact, I had more greens for breakfast because they were so. I love collard greens so bad, especially when they've been marinating all day in the crock pot with a turkey leg. It was so good. In fact, when we get done recording, that's probably what I'm gonna eat as my snack. The last little bit.
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I actually just ate some too, from this restaurant. I had ordered Mia a soul food platter. I said, well, since it's Easter Sunday, let me order me some soul food to go, because I'm not leaving this ass house today. I'm cleaning my home so that I can come home to a clean home. And it's just. It's been a mess because I've been literally on go. I'm cleaning this house, I'm packing and I'm chilling, and I'm getting on that goddamn plane in the morning. And can I just say, no shade. I am so glad TSA is now getting paid. I was scared.
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Oh, my God. Jamila, shut the up. Because I've been monitoring this because, you know, I'm a. I'm a pre check baddie. I'm a TSA PreCheck. And I got clear. It ain't no pre check. I said, I cannot go back to being a civilian. I need to skip the line.
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Yo, that and then Atlanta was ungodly, bro. What do you mean? You stood in line for six hours in TSA and didn't make your plane? Oh, somebody gotta. Somebody gotta answer.
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Houston was. Was just as bad. Like, the line wrapped around the airport type.
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Ridiculous.
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And mind you, specifically, they kept posting iah, which is the airport I'm driving, I'm flying out of. That's the other thing about today. I cleaned my room on Friday and yesterday because I'm still not packed. And I'm going to Shantae's later, obviously, for, like, Easter dinner. But she also lives by IH, which is like 45 minutes away from me.
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So you gonna just spend the night at her house?
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Yeah. And then flung Uber to the airport in the morning because I have a morning flight.
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Yeah, that makes sense. I'm about to. I'm so glad I live close to the Airport. I'm just like, listen, I'm. Man, I still have to. I got most of my clothes dry cleaned and they sent it back over, but I still got to wash because I forgot to send like a whole freaking bag of laundry to them. Because I'm just. I don't know. I don't know. I. I need ADHD medication, yo.
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What the. Get out my brain today. I was actually looking. No, no, no, no. Yeah.
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I can't raw dog anymore, guys. I fear it's getting serious.
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It's getting serious. And that is actually one of the first things I have to do when I get back home. I said, I need to get this done.
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Actually, let me tell you. Let me tell you about the adult ass conversation I had. What happened? I'm walking in the social club event, and I see Theo shout out to Theo. He's one of the founders of social club. So I was talking to him, and he's with this dude next to him, hella tall. And I'm looking at his face and I'm like, I recognize this from somewhere. But I can't put my finger on where he was. And so Theo introduced me and he was like, hey, I forgot the name already. I'm so bad with names, guys.
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Sorry.
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And he was just like, yeah, I'm familiar with your work. I was like, oh, thank you so much. Blah, blah, blah. He goes, yeah, I have a dentistry out here. I said, omg, East Atlanta Dental. This is some real Atlanta for East Atlanta dental. I've seen, because the guy, they got social media stuff, so I've seen them. And it's a black owned dentistry out here. And I'm like, no, I literally have y' all saved. And he was like, well, whenever you want to come by, you know, like, come over, like, we'll service you. We'll get those teeth together. I said, no, I literally have a cavity.
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No, I also have a cavity right now that I've been being ghetto and I've been making my own toothpaste to try and pull the cavity out.
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Oh, please. Fill this up with clove. I'm a cavity habit. I have a very weak enamel, whatever it is, you know, I couldn't have. I couldn't have everything in this world. I was born with, you know, beautiful straight teeth. Of course I had to have cavities. I just feel like, you know what I'm saying? I. It was. I had to have one struggle or the other. I couldn't just get everything thing right. So I've had several cavities, but at the same time, everyone knows I love the doctor. Like, I love going to the doctor. I'm very obsessed with health and going to the doctor and diagnosing myself and all the things. I love the doctor. I. I absolutely hate the dentist, though. The dentist can go to hell. I've had the worst, absolute worst traumatic experience with the dentist when I was a child, and to this day, it gives me severe anxiety. I have to get nitrous gas immediately upon entry. Don't even speak to me without gas. I have to have headphones with my music on blast. Cuz if I even hear the sound of oh, my God, I. I tremor at the sound of that drill. Because I also have really, really strong sensory issues. You know, I got a little bit of that tism. My sensory issues are insane. So the sound, the texture, the. The scraping, I don't want to hear. I don't want to feel. Don't talk to me. The only thing I like about the dentist is that suction.
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I was gonna. Yo, I was waiting for you to finish. So I can be like. I do like when they. And it, like, sucks your mouth. It's a cool kind of fun. It is kind of fun. I don't like the doctor. I do like the dentist. I think I'm traumatized since I grew up, like, big. So every time I went to the doctor, they were always calling me like a fat ass, like, you need to lose weight. So now I just don't like going, but I'll go. But they don't really say that anymore.
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Any. I like the dentist scares me. You and Jazz both y' all do
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have that
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tick of.
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I'm just obsessed with my teeth. I'm just obsessed with my teeth. My mom made us go the dentist every six months when I was a kid, and I actually don't get cavities a lot. Like, I'm. I'm really, like, good about my oral hygiene. I do all the things.
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Yeah, I, you know, I, too, want my teeth to be amazing, but it's like, it takes a lot for me to muster up the strength to, like, go to the dentist. And so I usually. Every time I go to the dentist, I get all the things. I try to get all the things done in one day, do everything, and so I don't have to come back for a while. I hate it.
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Fair enough.
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Anyways, what else?
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Speaking of. Well, I kind of wanted to trick daddy in the AKs. Trick Daddy versus 1908.
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There's nothing funny.
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I just want to know. I need to understand how we got there especially, you know, I read the tweet, and then I saw the video, and the video is even funnier.
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Like I said, the video is really. Because I thought the tweets was just, like, being funny and.
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No.
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So here's.
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Trick Daddy got up there and said, pop that pink and green. Pink and green. Pink.
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Pop that pink and green. That's essentially what happened, y'.
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All. And they said, oh, my.
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So here is. Here. Here's my thoughts on that as a lady of. AKA myself, when I. I saw somebody tweet like, which. Which. Which new soil war is responsible for this? Oh, no, baby.
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That was some. That was a. That's.
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Oh, here, Trick Daddy, That's a doctor. Don't even know who Trick Daddy is. That was an old hoe.
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Listen, she crossed at HBCU in the 90s. She went to Frick Nick. Like, that was Dr. Heavenly.
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She said somebody put her in charge of booking talent, and she lost her goddamn mind. She said, what's the budget? Oh, baby, we can get Trick Daddy for that. Okay? And I don't know.
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And.
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And I never thought I would say these words, but unfortunately, Trick Daddy is kind of right. Now, here's the thing. I will say, when you book talent for certain events. Yes. Sometimes they can tell you, like, depending on your contract. Like, hey, we don't allow profanity. We don't. Do you know, this is. You know, can you not sing this song? Like, yes. That is a part of contrasting your booking talent. However, I do think that it's stupid to think that you're gonna book someone like Trick Daddy where all his songs is about popping and licking your butt for him to overly censor himself, because at that point, why did you get tricked at it? You know what I'm saying? It's one thing to, like, book. You know, I'm just gonna. Obviously, nobody. Y' all not booking Beyonce. But it's one thing to book Beyonce and tell her to, you know, maybe don't, you know, say, sing the clean version. That's an easy switch over. You know, it's one or two cusses here and there, if that. Right. Versus somebody like Trick Daddy or Lil Wayne, where every other goddamn word is a cuss word or something inappropriate. And then on top of that, as Sark. I don't think y' all know how absolutely ridiculous this is. Y' all book Trick Daddy for Sark. Get out of my face. Y' all know better than that. I can't even now, please. Y' all know y' all should have been booking. Who. Who could y' all have booked?
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Gladys, Jennifer Holiday, Jennifer Hudson, Jennifer Lewis.
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You know what I'm saying?
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That's Trick Daddy was a. It was an interesting choice.
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He really was. But mind you, the funny.
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They should have booked Cupid.
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One of them. One of them videos. I see the tree Daddy. The first couple so rolls in the front was. I said get them. And that's the thing. It's funny like the thing with. With sororities, especially one like AKA where you know some of my older so words can be a bit strict. You get carried away with having fun with certain like conventions and like that. You get carried away like you'll be having fun until you see an elder from across the way looking just like this. Ladies, if you hear that from behind. Oh, baby, go ahead and pack it up. Fun's over, ladies. This is not the way the ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sword Incorporated ought to behave. You must remember your covenant and the oath that you have taken for this organization. I know. They got chewed out.
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Bitch. Listen, when so I the debutante. I was an AKA was Alpha Kappa Alpha debutante. And obviously the whole ball so in sack it was AKAS in the Bay. The Dells, the Delta. The Dells. The Deltas put the debutante balls on. So it's like they. They kind of go back and forth. But like so obviously all of our deb mentors and like the ladies running it were like these old akas, right? There's this. Oh, and I loved me some miss Shirley.
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Oh, I love Miss Charlotte.
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She had her good shake and go wig. She was an educator and she was
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exactly what the you're talking about.
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And when I say we used to be, you know, like we were obviously 7, 16, 17 years old. They're trying to teach us the waltz. And it's literally like me a Lynn, some other people and we're just. And the boys with us because we gotta learn how to waltz with the. We're cutting up so bad. We're cutting up so bad. She did exactly which. She came in there and she said the finger. Ladies, you are a reflection of us.
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You need to learn the what this
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teacher has come in here and given us. And she was. When I say I heard this and she's the first person I thought of. I said, I need to know if Ms. Shirley was at that. At that situation because I know she would have lost her shit. She would have lost her shit.
A
Be careful with them life them lifelong members. You hear me? You got. She would have lost It. I do not play. Listen, I am. Everybody knows I'm not the type to just like respect authority or respect my elders all the time. I'm really not like, you know what I'm saying? You got to be a little. You got to come right away. But there is something about an old lady AKA that will scare me to hell. I'm not gonna disrespect my own so Ross. Hell no. They scare me.
B
They don't like all the old sorority. All the old sorority ladies are scary because my tt's a Delta and she, she can be quite scary sometimes. I feel like the old Deltas I've met. Oh, you know who'll be real scary? Them old Zeta teachers. And when they have the Zeta Phi Beta educator plaque on their car. Oh, I'm scared of you. And let them be over 50. I'm scared. And they be in that blue and then pearls.
A
Oh, I'm not gonna play.
B
I don't even want to play with you.
A
The O akas like, they also hella judgmental and they're so like prim and proper. Like they are like they means and they got a mean, nasty bumping curl that has not been combed out since 1972. And they have a permanent just. I'd be like, oh, like I remember being in certain events or stuff that we had going on.
B
Shout out to jewel belong, cuz Ms.
A
Jewel belong and Key Ken in the back. And then all you, all you see. Oh, y. Shut up. Y' all hush, hush.
B
They said no fun.
A
To this day, at almost 30, I be feeling like I could get in trouble by old ass AKA like and getting in trouble as an adult. The funniest thing about being in a sorority or fraternity you is them old ass grown ass folks can get like be getting in trouble by their elders, their profiles. And if you've never seen a grown man get checked by his profile, you have not experienced joy. That's so funny. You're 30, getting cussed out by your old head because you on bullshit right now.
B
Sometimes it needs to happen.
A
We need to. We need to be able to. And honestly, what's crazy, I was talking to. I was talking to Audi about this not too long ago. When you was raised with strict parents. When you get out of your childhood and you're entering into adulthood, that fear of getting in trouble for the first couple of years I felt like kind of quote unquote, protected me for from making a couple of bad decisions. I still made several. I still did a lot of right to test those Waters.
B
Are we talking about regular life trouble? Are we talking about regular life or. Oh, I thought you were talking about a.k.a. i'm sorry.
A
No, I'm saying, like, my parents were literally strict. When I got to college, it was like that anxiety of, I'm going to get in trouble by my parents. Never once thought about police. Never once thought about the school administrators. I was thinking about Jeff and Darla. I'm like, I could get in trouble if they knew what I was doing. And so I feel like that alone protected me from doing a couple of. A couple of dumb things. I still did some bullshit for sure. And sometimes I be thinking about that like, damn, Sometimes I wish I could go back and. And. And take it to hell. Just, you know, just to say I did it. Yeah.
B
Yeah. You're not. You're not lying. I'm trying to think. I didn't do it. Yeah, we didn't do anything crazy. I mean, I didn't even start drinking until the second semester of college. That first semester of college, I was. I was still going to church every Sunday. Like, So I. I feel what you're saying. Then I was like, I woke up one day and said, I don't have to do this.
A
Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. I don't. That feeling that online, it's like, literally, it's a. It's a canon event, too. Like, you wake up the first day you skip class for sure. You wake up and you're like, I'm not going. Can't nobody do. Can't nobody do. Can't nobody tell me a ass thing. I'm not going. I'm laying back the down. That class.
B
I'm not that class.
A
I'm skipping it. I'm going to 12 to 2.
B
We were just talking about 12 to 2. Oh, my God, I missed that 12 to 2. You know why? This is literally. I blame Hampton and 12 to 2 for the reason why on Friday after work, I always feel the need, like, I have to do something. Like, we have to go to happy hour. We have to. You see what I'm saying? Like, I feel like I've been conditioned because Friday is the beginning of the weekend. We need to go do something. We need to go drink a little something. Something. Like, where's the 12 to 2 at?
A
Essentially, they had tequila Thursday 12 to 2 on Friday. Tuesday was Taco Tuesday, which also means. Meant Tequila they would do. It was something with Hennessy. I can't remember. It was. I felt like every day they had an excuse to drink. To drink, man.
B
There was.
A
But yeah, child, them AKAs. I don't know what the end result gonna be, but y' all was. Everybody was wrong. Y' all was wrong as hell for booking Trick Daddy. Trick Daddy was wrong as hell for violating his. Who. Whoever decided to try to cancel halfway through, Baby, it's too late. He already on stage popping and blowing in your booty hole. So at that point, you might as well go and let him finish it out, and y' all can cuss everybody out after. But ciao.
B
You know what I was thinking about? What if Kamala Harris was there? She probably would have had a good time. She would have probably been laughing.
A
She was not there.
B
I mean, if she had been, she
A
probably been like, nah, I ain't gonna lie.
B
She went to Howard.
A
Yeah. Let me tell you, a little bit of tea.
B
She'd have been like.
A
From what I heard, she was strict. That's all I'm gonna say.
B
Hmm.
A
So I don't know if she would've been laughing. I don't know if she would have gave the combo a cackle. I think she would have hit one of them. Who made this decision? Right?
B
You did her voice.
A
You know, she. Who. Whose idea was this, huh? Okay, ladies. Yeah, ladies, there needs to be some education, okay? Have you been reading your bylaws?
B
Yeah, I'm crying right now.
A
Way to present yourselves, okay. When you're representing Alpha Cap, Alpha incorporating. Okay,
B
you got that voice down. You got that voice down. Come on. Come on, Cadence. Come on, Cadence.
A
She is funny as that little head bot. Okay.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah.
B
All right. All right.
A
And then she probably would have went
B
with her, with her girls, her LS's,
A
and they would have laughed about it in private. Now let's talk about what's going on with the baby. So the baby was. I don't know where he was coming from, but he was coming from somewhere, and a fan approached him and was trying to show him a little bit of artwork that he did. Now, I saw the video
B
before.
A
I saw, like, the response, and I, for one, was cackling, because for me, I do find humor in almost everything. So when I saw that boy's face be so cracked and embarrassed, unfortunately, I laughed. But I also felt bad. Like, damn, why he did him like that. Nonetheless, I thought it was funny. And then now there's been a little bit of an update. It says that the reason that he. Or he made a video, basically trying to say the reason he wasn't with is. Cause he. I ain't that type of daddy. I don't like, when try to take pictures of my daughters, you know, tried to make it seem like he wasn't with it because the painting that the fan did was of his daughters.
B
Huh. Yeah. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Well, I think this is a case of multiple things being true at once. Someone on Twitter tweeted this and then responded to my tweet saying they saw me in the airport, but they were basically saying. They were basically saying that was it a lapse in judgment to possibly paint a picture of these guys, of this man's daughter, stranger's kids, that you don't know how they're going to receive it? Yeah, possibly. What was. Was the gesture meant to be kind? Yeah. Is the baby also just a mean guy known for being a. Also. Yeah. Like, all things are true. At one time. I didn't. I would not have necessarily thought that. That, like, oh, my God, that's so weird. But I definitely understand why people are saying it's weird. I mean, just in the day and age we live in. But also, on the flip, it's a picture that was posted on Instagram. So it's not like this guy went and, like, was doing something serious. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
A
It's like, considering this was a picture you posted, I think, like, speaking from my perspective of, like, what I would think from the artist, I would. I think that he probably assumed it would be heartfelt, like, oh, this is his daughters. If I paint it, that would be really cool, and I could give it to him, like, as a gift. And a lot of times artists do that. They'll paint a, you know, random that has something to do with the person that they're trying to, you know, honor, and they give it to him. And I. I think that. I don't think that he meant anything weird by it. It's not like you've never, ever posted your daughters. Like, that could be very strange. Like, you've never posted jars. Like, how do you even know my daughter?
B
Yeah.
A
Yes, I can see how that. But considering it's a picture on your page, like, I'm like, you know that baby and me nothing by it. Now, I will say, when it comes to Dababy, he never seemed like a nice gentleman. Like, I. You know how there's, like, never. Like, there's celebrities where if you encounter them in your mind, you're like, I feel like that would be cool if I spoke to them or that, like, I would not. Like, if I've seen the baby out in a while, I would not think that he would be Nice to me. I would think that, like, if I said, hey, dababy, I feel like he would be like, ass. I don't know. So sometimes you probably just a little mean. It's like, it's okay. Like, sometimes people be mean. Like, you know, some people may, you know, interpret me as a little mean, too. So I get it. But, yeah, I don't. I don't think it's that deep. The baby. Like, I think you're dragging it. Like, and then he.
B
Oh, he's absolutely dragging it.
A
He posted it again because I guess some. He. The dude had posted it, like, because people wanted to, like, fully see the painting. So he comments and said, you still got my daughters on your page as a grown man after I made it clear I ain't comfortable with that steady playing for this online attention. So when God put me in back. So when God put me back in front of you, I'm gonna show you how serious I am about my daughters. Best advice I could give you, get my children off your page and keep doing what you gifted at doing. Using my kids ain't the route to go if you want to go viral. That's the route to go if you want to get hurt. This father talking. Not a rapper, baby.
B
Oh, okay, now wait a minute.
A
Like, we get it. You fight, baby. We get it. We know.
B
And honestly, the thing is, I feel like specifically for the baby, he just wants to take every opportunity to tell someone he was gonna beat your ass and he'll kill you because he killed somebody in Walmart. Like, yeah, that's how it always comes off. Like, I just feel like if you didn't have a track record, I'm gonna show you, like, what I feel like, especially when people understood why you were upset. Like, I. I sat here and said, like, damn, I didn't even think about it. Like, that. I could see how that would be offensive, but, like, keeping going and keeping dragging it and then just taking it to a place where it's like, oh, yeah, I'll beat your ass. When would you ever be in front of this again?
A
And it's like, I don't know. I just feel like you're dragging it. Like, you're dragging it. You're dragging it. Get over it. And if you didn't want him to have that picture, you feel uncomfortable, then why you didn't take it? For real. For real. I would have. Really. If you really. If that made you feel uncomfortable, him having that picture of your daughters, then maybe you should have took the painting from him.
B
Yeah, that that would have probably been a good idea. It's just such a slippery slope. It's a slippery slope when people post their. When people post their kids. That's. And that's why people be like, don't post your kids. On a serious tip. How would you. Because you a mother of, of a small child, if someone came up and said, jamila, I'm a huge fan, here's this picture I painted of Noah and it's picture you yourself have posted Noah, would you take like offense to that?
A
I don't think I would take offense to it. I think I would. I'm so easily impressed. I be like, no, you painted that
B
damn
A
that boy good. That boy. How much you want for that baby? Can I have it? I mean, it is my son. I think I should get it for free now. I'm trying to do a deal on that. Listen, I've been waiting for somebody to draw a portrait of me. I just keep getting a fake ass portion request that's trying to scam me. I want somebody to paint a portrait of me.
B
Yes, A real portrait.
A
Yeah. I wouldn't take offense to it. Especially like you said, if it's a picture I posted. Like now if you obviously, like I said, it gets weird when it's something like that you had to go home for because then I'm like. But if it's like, remember that time
B
whoever was in Matthew office posted that picture of Blue and the twins that was in Matthew office but they have never released it. Remember that?
A
No, I don't even think I ever seen that.
B
That's crazy. Someone was in Matthew's office. I don't know where at but. And it's a picture of a picture in a frame. Like it's a picture in a frame that he has a Blue and the twins and it's clearly someone as a grandpa would do. And this is the crazy part. It even is like you could tell they was trying to take it fast because it has like a blur, like a reflection. Like you could tell they was just
A
trying to real quick.
B
Yeah, I feel like that's crazy.
A
Yeah, that's.
B
Why would you probably.
A
Yeah, I would. I would be like, I'd be like, okay, cool. Like I would definitely take it but like again like I'm not looking for a fight.
B
Yeah, like I'll beat your ass with your ass.
A
That little baby, the baby said duh
B
baby, little baby just over there with Loyal. I'm so glad we're out of that era when they both were popping because it was a Little confusing. Are you talking about a little baby or that baby? It was just a lot of baby going on. And then you had baby. Baby Birdman. Please, no more babies.
A
Yeah, too many babies. No, no, we're maxed out of the babies. We're also maxed out a little. Oh, yeah, can't be little no more. We, like, let's bring back big. Like we had big Boy. Like, let's bring back. He ain't even really did too many big. So, you know, we had Biggie and who was big. But like, I felt like the big
B
always had to be. Oh, Big Sean. I will never let this go. Years ago, and I've tried to find the clip and I can't. But on the Fashion Police, Joan Rivers asked Big Sean, you know, Big Sean is like short guy.
A
He was.
B
She was like, why is your name. No, she said, why. Why is your name Big Sean? He was like, well, I've got a big dick, Joan. And it's like lives in my head rent free, like 10, 11 years.
A
Why did you say that? And it's like, I didn't have to say that.
B
No, I did. I do believe him because it makes sense.
A
I actually. I absolutely believed him. And it's like when he said that, I immediately pictured exactly what it looked like, too.
B
I know it has veins.
A
Specific type of girth. Yeah, girl like curve, but not. Not crazy.
B
Circumcised, for sure.
A
Oh, for sure. As any black American. You know what? I was unrelated.
B
Black Americans act like Jewish people in that sense. Them boys gonna get circumcised, child. They gonna get the circumcised. I'll be shocked when I run down on a who not. I'll be like, what the was your mama doing? You haven't. It's like a snuffle up. I guess it's. It's. I didn't like the way I looked. I'm gonna be real.
A
Never come across the old blanket.
B
Listen, the old.
A
The old Arthur neck. No, never come across that.
B
And it's like it hides. But you might scream if you see it. Especially if you've never. When I saw one. I had also never seen an uncircumcised penis before.
A
So you've seen uncircumcised dick. You've seen a micro penis. Like, what else have you like, let's go through your dick Rolodex at this point.
B
Listen, you gotta. You gotta get in the field to know what you like. And I can tell you I don't like an uncircumcised penis.
A
Hate it.
B
I will say that dude was a girth. Was a girthy guy. So I stuck around for a while because I enjoy the unserked was very girthy.
A
Interesting.
B
Yeah. When it came out of the blanket it was a sight to see. But when it was in the blanket I wanted to him to put it away. And if I remember correctly, he also like had like his tip was pink. Like he was brown skinned.
A
But the.
B
It was exotic looking. Like when he was at full erection it was very exotic. It looks like a little strawberry. Yeah, that's nice. I love that great little cherry on top. A little cherry on top. A little color. Color on your color. All right.
A
Yes, yes, yes.
B
Almost. Almost made up for being uncircumcrivised.
A
Makes sense. Makes sense.
B
Yeah.
A
Or maybe I have it. Maybe I just didn't know it.
B
I was going to say the thing
A
is you wouldn't necessarily know, right?
B
Yeah. Then you wouldn't know. It's only like when it's soft and it's hiding.
A
Yeah. And I don't just want no soft dick in my face. So you know what I mean?
B
You know, I don't even really. And. And when you see a dick on soft it's like no, you need to come with that already kind of in a way.
A
So you're not. You not. You're not doing fellatio from scratch.
B
Oh, I don't, I don't. I only cook the food from scratch. No, I don't want to. I don't want a gummy warm in my mouth. Yeah.
A
I go, I go. Oh, sometimes you like to. You like to feel it, the blood rush. Yeah. It's. I be wanting to bite that. You know, I'd be wanting to fight down. It'd be so squishy. Like. Like my intrusion thought is to bite that penis. One day I might just to see what'll happen. Oops, that's horrible. It don't even be feeling like it be. Don't you. It's like oh my gosh. Like what's in here? Why is it so gummy? Almost like a fidget. A fidget toy.
B
No. Oh, I hate it.
A
I hate
B
needs to be. You don't have to be. It can be a half mass. It doesn't need to be completely erect. But I needed to have some texture, some tenderness. It needs to be a little firm, a little something like it just can't be limp. I. And then you know what's also so crazy? How some men are truly growers and not Showers. I always like some. It is. It really is like some. Truly, you will think it's a micro penis. And then he gets going and looks like a little. Just perched on balls. And you're like, oh, my God.
A
That's why I like going from scratch. Because then you're like. It's like the little toy.
B
You literally watch it. Suck it.
A
Okay, Good for you. All right. Look at it. Gave me five more than I was expecting.
B
Come on. Okay. Come on, somebody.
A
You did that.
B
You did that. You did that. Like, no, it's.
A
It's.
B
It's really fascinating. Truly, I'm trying to think, do I prefer a grower not a shower? Because the other thing is I just don't like men who have like violently big dicks. And when I. When I say violently big dicks, I mean the type of niggas, like, they can't hide it. It's just like there, it's like, oh, my God. Oh, brother.
A
Those give a lot of stars.
B
Yeah, but you know, like, who will walk around with no underwear in gray sweatpants? Like, I hate, I hate a nigga who is in public just dick swinging around. I don't know, I don't like.
A
I just feel like I don't like seeing prints.
B
Yeah. In contextual prints. I like contextual prints. I just don't like prints that are not within the context of what's going on. Like, I don't know, we're in Walmart.
A
I'll be even more specific. I don't mind a dick print because it's like, okay. Like, okay, dig. I don't like seeing ball print specifically. Oh, my God. If I can tell that your balls. I'm irritated.
B
Oh, my God. I don't think I've ever seen a ball print, bro. Where would you do you see ball print in sweatpants? I don't think I've ever.
A
Oh, like they sit too tight and if their pee pee doesn't hang over their balls and their balls are big and they get to like having them tight ass shorts and shit.
B
Yes. And you can see the round. You can see the roundness.
A
And it looks like soft. It looks nasty and gushy and looks uncomfortable. And it looks like they have a front wedgie and I be wanting them to get it out.
B
It looks like a moose knuckle.
A
Yes. I hate it.
B
Ew, I'm crying.
A
Get those tennis balls out your pocket. Like, I would hate to have balls. If I was a boy. I always think of that. Like, if I was a boy, I would do like some of the t. Girls do and just. Just remove the balls and I'll just be dick only. I just feel like the balls get in.
B
Oh wait, that's what they were.
A
Detachable.
B
Wait, who. Who gets there? How do you. I'm not how. But I didn't know that was a thing.
A
Yeah, some of the tea girls will just get.
B
I thought they did that. I thought they did that for like opera singers back in the day to make their voices still sound high pitched. Isn't that what castration is?
A
I think there's levels to castration, but it has a form because of course it'll. It removes your ability to have children because you're not producing that. And so girls remove that to prevent the production of testosterone. But I would do it just because I wouldn't want no balls. I don't know. I don't think I would want a penis either.
B
I don't think I would ever desired penis.
A
I feel like I. I would want a penis. Like I. I do wish sometimes that I could like wake up and be a boy for a week just to experience life with a penis. Like I would want to like little
B
Dicky and Chris Brown on that one song.
A
Exactly. I just need 24 hours. Like I just want to know what life would be like with a penis. I do feel like I would want to wear panties still. Because when they wear them boxers, I just feel like that's too loose in the goose. And your balls really just be like everything just free hangs. Like that's what tidy whitings are.
B
They're. They're panties for dicks.
A
Exactly.
B
But I don't like when, you know, we.
A
I don't either. You know how girls will like not wear a bra and I let our titty swing. I wonder if that feels like how they're penis is filled with no draws on. But that seems like it's.
B
Oh, and like when they take. When they take their pants off, do you feel that freeing drop that your breasts feel when you take your. You know how like when you take your broth and it's like. I wonder if feel like that. Like just hang free.
A
I gotta know that. I gotta know that.
B
Hey, Mel, if. If you have balls, let us know in the comments.
A
Please let us know what the ball life is like. Very intrigued by your lifestyle as a boy. Anyways, let's spin it. Ciao.
B
This is our segment. Spin it. Sorry, I'm still thinking about balls and castration and lack thereof. My mind like I'm gonna. I gotta google that. Once we're done with this because I didn't know that was a thing. Now that I'm things that, oh wow, porn would probably pop up if I did it. But I. I want to see what it looks like. I'm not gonna lie. I want to see what it looks like. Anyway, this is our segment. Spin it. This is where you send us your nasty, low down, salacious, messy situations that we give you some advice and a bit of a PR spin. Now keep in mind, Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We just studied communications in undergrad and and we really do like the unethical nature of pr. If you want any advice or want us to give you a bit of your spin on your situation, email at unhinged immoral podmail.com do not forget to include your age, your race, your sexual orientation, your gender, your political affiliations. And if you're a boy, you do need to include your height. Okay, Jamila, what do we have this week?
A
All right, she started off with her stats immediately. Someone who pays attention name would like to stay anonymous. Gender, female. Age 20. Race black. Sexual orientation Straight. Political affiliation left leaning slash liberal opinions. Okay, let's get straight to the meat and the potatoes.
B
Hey, y'. All.
A
First, I would just like to say that I'm really a big fan of Yalls podcast. It's always a fun time and always look forward to listening to what you guys discuss. Wishing y' all endless success, all your endeavors. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I wouldn't say my story is nasty or low down, so I apologize, but I still love Yalls advice. I'm currently a junior in underground stud in undergrad. Sorry. Studying communications and hoping to study marketing in grad school. I turned 21 in July and I have never had a boyfriend or any sort of romantic relationship. I was raised in a religious Catholic household by two African immigrant parents. Relationships were not really something we discussed out loud. I am the middle child.
B
Period. Me too.
A
So my older sister has already been the. Has already. Damn. I'm skipping over. I am the middle child. So my older sister has already been the guinea pig and experienced other things like college romance, but that never happened for me. I have this weird thing where I want to be able to experience dating and kissing and all that stuff, but I get really scared to actually take steps to do that or like put myself out there. I also think there's some self image issues that probably need to be unpacked, but I fear the African in me just can't step inside that therapy office. Lol it tends to feel really discouraging seeing people my age date and explore sexual interactions. Because then I ask myself, why do I feel left out? My older sister experienced relationships in college and even my younger sister in high school has a few boo things. Why can't a boy like me?
B
Oh.
A
But then I feel silly for thinking those things. How would you guys suggest navigating dating or even just meeting and take and talking to boys as someone who is a late bloomer? And also how soon would you tell your parents family that you're talking to a boy? Because that also freaks me out. Lol. Looking forward to hearing from y' all soon. Oh, this is a good one. I'm actually excited about this one.
B
Okay, so immigrant parents, religious late bloomer wants to date. Did I cover all the basis? Did I miss anything?
A
Nope.
B
Okay, all the basics. Well, just for the last part, how would you tell your parents? Don't. I mean I didn't tell my mom. My mom didn't know what I was doing in college. I just feel like unless it's someone that you're really, really, really, really serious about. I know I'm answering this question in reverse. I'm answering the second part. Unless it's someone that you're very serious about, which at your age and you're in college and all this stuff, you don't really need to be super serious about anyone. I don't really see why you would need to tell your parents. It's not like, especially if you're trying to date, you know, like if you're dating multiple men, then it's going to look like you're telling your religious immigrant, African parents, mom, I have a new boyfriend this week. Mom, I have a new boy. And they're gonna call you a. And mind you, I wasn't even doing that and my mom still called me a whore at one point.
A
Yeah, you know what I mean?
B
It happens. You know, it just, it happens.
A
So let me back up and try to. So I will say that I also consider considered myself a late bloomer. I didn't start dating till college. You're probably a little bit more of a late bloomer than me because you say you're about to turn 21 and I was 18, so a couple year difference, but still nonetheless, same vibe. Right? And for me, I definitely had self image issues in high school, but it more so stemmed from the fact that the boys in in my high school I felt like were just more attracted to non black girls. And if they were attracted to the black girls, they had to be like the very popular black girls. So I just didn't never. I didn't fit within any of those bubbles. And so I definitely think that there was a little bit of self image issues. Thinking like, damn, well, what is it about me? Am I not that cute? Like, I thought I was cute. Like, I always thought I was cute. So I was like, well, I'm confused because when I look in the mirror, I think I'm cute. So I was just like, whatever. And then once I went to college where, you know, the first school I went to was a hbcu, where generally speaking, most of the niggas there like black women. So that definitely drastically changed my experience. But it was still very intimidating. I'm not going to lie to you. Starting to date as an adult is very intimidating because number one, you feel like you don't know what you're doing and you feel like you're doing something wrong, right? Because especially coming from strict household, we talked about this a little bit earlier. So coming from that street, also coming from not dating, coming from being a late bloomer, coming from, like you said, immigrant parents, where, you know, there's a little bit of a cultural difference as well, you can feel like there's a guilt level when you're talking to these boys. And then the other part, you're still a little stupid. Meaning you fall for everything that the boys are telling you. Start liking them a lot, believe everything. Time getting your feelings hurt because you're like, wait, I thought everything was so good. I liked him. I thought he liked me. I thought this was going to be my husband. And it's just like all that. So what I will say to you, my young grasshopper, is you need to just get your feet wet, right? Let go of the idea of a boyfriend. Let go of the idea of marriage. You're still very young. You need to get your feet wet. You need to learn how to talk to boys. And when I say learn how to talk to boys, I don't mean learn the game, right? I'm not saying learn the game, bitch. Like, get in the field, trick these. I'm not saying that because that's, that's too much. What I'm saying is literally learn how to talk to boys. When you don't talk to boys like that. When you start talking to boys, you get intimidated. You're shy, you're like scary. Or then you try to like, you try to seem a certain way. No, learn how to talk to boys the same way that you talk to your friends. Maybe not of course not the exact same way. But there should be a comfort level with you. You know why? Because these be comfortable too, right? I'm not saying you can't be nervous in front of a boy. Like, yeah, when you, when you with a fine ass, the nerves gonna nerf that stomach gonna turn. But you gotta keep it pee.
B
You gotta keep poker face, girl.
A
Keep it Pete. So I think since if you're still in college, that's the perfect breathing.
B
Practice makes perfect.
A
Exactly. Practice makes perfect. You gotta just, you gotta kind of walk the talk too. Like when you are dealing with self image issues, I think a, a way that you can kind of help get yourself out of there is focus on what you really enjoy about you, right? And fall in love with yourself for all those things that make you you. And put that on, put that on. Make yourself feel very comfortable. Like, wow, I look really, really nice. Right? And, and maybe sometimes I say do those dating apps are kind of good for learning how to talk to boys. But be careful because you can also get trapped in the idea of a acting like he like you just so he can get some puss because. And because you're so new at this, you're so green and you are going to be very easily manipulated. And so I want you to also kind of be careful with that. But yeah, it's really.
B
You know what? Unfortunately with dating you do have to get your feelings hurt. Like you, it's kind of like, it's like it's a canon event. There's no, no advice that we or anyone else could give you to really walk you through it. Unless like you get in the field with it because it's like, you know, you know how like women will say things like oh, ain't and all this type of. But more so like you just gotta do you and it sounds very cliche until you've like gone through it and it's like, oh, everyone was so right. But you don't even have a kind of how like you were talking about in the beginning with your boobs, how you know, you, you tried to prepare but you just didn't have a concept of how it would even feel. So you can't really know. Like you do have to date. You do have to get your feelings hurt. You do kind of have to learn yourself and how you're going to handle certain situations. And no one can really tell you how that's gonna go for yourself. So the best advice we or anyone else could really give you is like Jamila said, get in the Field. And I know she was like, that doesn't mean you have to or do all this, but definitely learning to talk to boys. You're gonna start liking someone who doesn't like you as much. You gotta learn how to deal with that and go through that. Like, like all the. That though. No, I was, that's what I was leading up to. Like, you do have to go through all this. All the. That Taylor Swift Whites writes her songs about. You do have to, like, go through that. And I would suggest you start. I don't know how, like, I don't know how religious you are, but in my humble opinion, I think that college is the best time to sexually explore yourself. Because I think that when you're in your mid-20s, early 30s, you know, you hear stories of, oh, I just got an orgasm for the first time, or I just. I didn't know this about myself. I've only ever had sex with one guy. I think, like, there's a perfect point in time for you to experience and learn things about yourself. And it's the ages of like 19 to 23 and obviously doing that with
A
people who are age appropriate, you gotta, you gotta start hunching on something because
B
learning a little bit of detachment, I'm
A
gonna assume you're open to hunching because you did say you're more left leaning. You know, we typically are more. I definitely say, like, start having sex, but learn that. I think that sexual liberation has been kind of misrepresented. Some people think, like, sexual liberation is about just whomever, whenever, however, just for the sake of. And it's like, no, I think sexual liberation is more so learning to have more bodily autonomy. It's about breaking away from, you know, the systems that be this institution that is very against women's empowerment. Right. And so I want you to start having sex because you wanted to have sex, right? Like, do what makes sense for you because you feel like doing it. It doesn't have to be a grand scheme. Like, oh, well, I, I gave it up to him because I, I feel like we're. You don't have to be all of that. You can literally have sex with somebody because you wanted to have sex with them. You know what I mean? Like, and for good enough reason. And. Exactly. That's a good enough reason. Like, if you like them, y' all had a good time and y' all want to do that, you don't have to feel like there's a lot of shaming, self shaming that can happen when you first start dating, especially because you'll get your heart broken. So then you start beating yourself up like, I should have never had sex with him. Like, that's a. Is not hurt breaking your heart because y' all had sex.
B
Yeah.
A
There's this misconception that happens that is like shunning and shaming women for having sex and using that as the reason that a nigga did some fuck shit no, the nigga was going to do. Regardless if you wanted to have sex with that man, you are good to go ahead and do that. But that is not the reason that somebody disrespected you or left you or ghosted you or whatever. Like. And it's okay. You know what I mean? And again, it's part of the game. It is gots to get in that field if you want to get play time, boo boo. You gotta. You gotta. You know what I'm saying? Put them reps in practice. Yeah, we talking about practice. Shout out to AI. Got to get out there, sister. And as far as about, like, what Mecca said, telling your parents, I'll tell you my rule of thumb. My parents don't know anybody that is not my boyfriend.
B
Hello.
A
And even then, that is just. That is just my personal rule of thumb.
B
I.
A
And I do that because why would I integrate you into my family when this is not something that is serious enough to put a title on? You know what I'm saying?
B
You know, if we don't even have
A
a title, if we don't have structured boundaries, rules and operations and things, why would I then integrate you into my family? So that's what I would say to that. Now, when it comes to friends, now, this is a different skill levels when it comes to introducing men to your friends, that's a little different. My friends, for one, know every I talk to because I can't hold water for one. But for two is also kind of like one thing I've learned is you need to be telling somebody about what you're doing because you want to have a soundboard. You want to be able to check in with somebody. Right? And in my experience, the. The I will not get in the habit of not telling my friends stuff. So when I was trying to hide the. That I was dealing with good or bad, I feel like it elongated a bad situation. If you got some good homegirls and you're, you know, just sharing your dating situations, they're going to. And if they have your, you know, your well being in mind, they're gonna be really good for telling you, hey, that sound like he's full of. Or, hey, he actually sounds like pretty decent dude. Maybe you should, you know, explore that or. This is fun. I like this, right? Like, I think that telling your friends right now and experiencing dating with your friends is kind of more important than experiencing with your parents because those are your parents and that's not the relationship typically like the parent to child has. Now, some people may and some people do have that relationship with their parents where they just kiki about every they're dealing with. That's not really my experience and I don't think that's yours considering what you told us in the letter. I think right now I know for a sure that ain't that experience. I say to you, sister, right now you need to be focused on how to integrate your friends in your love life. I know some people are so anti. Like, you don't need to be telling your friends everything you deal with. Which, I mean, that's your man. Okay, girl. Oh, you know, sorry, first lady, I didn't know that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you absolutely should. You need to respect my marriage. You can't bring people into the house or into the marriage. Into the boy. Like, okay, okay, whatever. Yeah, Nah, friends. And then it's like, some. You gonna need somebody to talk to when that inevitably breaks your heart. And so if you have a friend who you've already been telling them all the things and they've been, you know, staying updated, you don't have to tell them the whole story from scratch. You could be like, they can be like, how is you? And so. And so they can be like, girl, that somebody bounce all that off, you know what I'm saying? Like, and that's a part of dating. A part, a huge part of dating. This is why I think dating is fun for me. Like, dating is fun because it starts off scandalous, like, right? Oh, I saw this boy at this event. We was locking eyes, y'.
B
All.
A
I don't know. He got my number. Like, I don't know. And then, you know, you're doing your debriefing, you're telling them like, I don't know. He was so fine. And we had a good little night. We'll see where it goes. So I don't have no expectations on a, you know, you gotta, you know, gotta play it cool. And then you go on your first day, right? And then the first date goes, well, then you call your homegirls again. You're like, okay, so here's how it went. Like, And they're like, okay, okay. And then, like, a week later, like, I don't know, like, he kind of pissing me off, but, like, I'm gonna keep it. He's like, oh, my gosh. What did he do? I don't know. He texting back slow as. Like, I don't know if I should trip. Like, should I trip? Like, that's a part of dating. The debrief with your homegirls.
B
Yeah.
A
Did you wait if you didn't debrief. Come on. Come on. I don't know.
B
I actually need to debrief everything. Not like. Like, everything has to be debriefed. Not just that I'm going left, but, like, not just. Not just dating. Like, I have to debrief the situation that happened last night. We have to debrief what happened. We have to debrief everything. Guess what?
A
Taker.
B
Really? Oh, do you.
A
I'm a note taker? No, I'm just a. It's a mental note, but something I'll do sometimes if I know it's really good and juicy. If I'm like, oh, sometimes what I do, I'll send a text message, like, blue sweatpants. Remind me. This will come in handy later. Like, I will text the group, like, remind me to tell you about cotton candy. Oh, I love that. So then we come back into the deep breath, and then I obviously forgot because I have adhd. My friend's like, wait, what about cotton candy? I'm like, oh, yes.
B
I have to tell you.
A
Exactly.
B
I'll be having to debrief what I seen on Facebook. So, yeah, no, a debrief is crucial to my life.
A
Yeah. I take debriefs very seriously. I've gotten so good, so, you know, one of my best friends is a boy. We've had to teach him the trick of the trade. I said, yeah, no details. We need to know what happened.
B
So good.
A
Oh, we got him whipped and chained. He know good and damn well if you come to us with some, it better be thorough. I need to know the colors. I need to know the temperature. Because, you know, will get.
B
Will debrief and then not have no details.
A
It's like, oh, I ain't. I don't know. I ain't ask all that. Why would you not follow up question? Why? How you want to be messy, but you don't know how to be messy. So we. It took. It took us a while. I'm not gonna lie. It took us a couple of years to train Dwight on. On. On. On. On chatting. Okay. On a good thing. But he Got it down. Now he know not to play and he know he'll we. So we'll be in that group chat texting. Like if I say just no, te's on the way, child. I'mma I'mma call y' all in a minute.
B
Oh, I.
A
And I love when somebody. I love it, but I hate it when it be like, can't talk right now. Call you in a minute. When it's like, oh, I be going. I be going pins and needles like a crackhead, waiting for the phone to ring. Like, oh, I can't wait till they call and tell me what happened. I'm scared.
B
Is it good?
A
Is it bad?
B
You know what? Who was wrong?
A
Oh, my God.
B
You just reminded me about something I do need to ask my mom. My mom had literally told me something. She's like, and I'mma tell you when I see you.
A
You.
B
And now I completely forgot. Oh, when I get off this call, I'm about to go get some more tea. Thank you. Because I had completely forgot. I completely forgot.
A
Exactly. I'm doing the people's work.
B
Thank you.
A
Exactly. Well, girl, I think you got enough advice. I think that makes you got that. And you know what? I. I love coming of age advice because it's like, you, you're good. Like you can do no wrong. And even if you do wrong, it doesn't count. Cuz you're young.
B
Young, dumb, high school quote, college kids,
A
and, you know, who cares? And this might be a little controversial, but I don't care. I just feel like there's no such thing as doing a boy wrong.
B
Especially not, not at her age. Especially not at 20. 20, going on 21.
A
Dog, that those, those boys are.
B
Doesn't count.
A
Listen.
B
Doesn't count.
A
He'll be okay.
B
He'll literally be fine.
A
Matter of fact, I'm gonna give you some homework. I'm gonna give you some homework and I want a follow up, you hear me? You have a month. You gotta have at least two niggas on current rotation and you have had to have had sex with both of them so that you can give us a comparative analysis. Okay, that's good.
B
That's good, that's good.
A
I have to have at least one date with both of them. So you have a month to get that together. I want to follow up and I want us to know how you're doing with dating. Okay? Two on rotation and a couple of pending, which means you got to get in the field, mama. But it's good. It's hot outside. This is the Easiest time to scratch a. These are scratching sniff times. Go outside and do a waiting call. They're out there.
B
I mean, and the sun. The sun is. I was gonna. The sun is out. Sun's out, buns out. The weather's nice. This is prime time, sister. This is prime time.
A
I wish you would have told me where you live. I could have told you exactly where
B
to go, what the hell to do, where's going on.
A
But I'll tell you, the easiest time to grab a nigga is during like actual events, like festival events, rooftop. When you go to a club and this is just a personal experience. This is not like law or anything. This is just my personal experience. When you go to like the club or lounge, people are more so going with their people and they're there to have fun with their people. So they usually don't like venture out too much to other people. Sometimes people be on a little bit of a prowl. But for the most part, I see a lot of people going to the club with a group of people. They're going to have a good time with they people. They're not really too worried about everything else going on versus more. So events are more open and it's. People go to a very solid talk. Yes. It's more encouraged to kind of talk amongst other people. And especially if it's more so those fun networking events. Now I, you know, I live in Atlanta, so our networking events are not that businessy. They are very much like events, but they're still networking. It's very encouraged to kind of walk around and chat. So then it also makes it less anxious because it's like, okay, well, everyone's going around talking. And then also because I don't like when people know that I'm flirting with a boy. Like, I don't really like, like, I love flirting, but I also don't want to like, be hot because it makes me uncomfortable for people to know, like, watch me flirt. I'm like, okay, whatever. But when it's a networking event and everybody's talking, it's not like obvious that I'm flirting with a dude. Like, or obvious that I'm trying to like, whatever, whatever, you know? So I feel like you can kind of like be incognito and do all that. So I would say try to find certain events like that even just like more like, for example, like I was just saying, we have 404 day. That's. Those events are. The way that they are structured is everybody is out and everybody is mingling with everybody. It's so much easier to pull A to the side and be like, hey, you know what I mean? Or to be seen for a to walk. Damn, Daddy. But, yeah, and listen, I know I just gave you homework and I know I've told y' all plenty of times that I don't ever walk up to boys. I don't approach them. That is something, though. I wish I would have done more as a young lady. So I am telling you to go do that.
B
Yes, I did it a lot as a young lady, and I'm so glad I did.
A
The black mama say, do as I do not. As do as I say not. Yeah, okay.
B
Yeah, I used to. I used to shoot my shot a lot. I shot my shot so hard, I ended up in Baltimore, Maryland. So don't go as hard as me, but do it.
A
Have fun.
B
Well, all right.
A
Well, next time, get them done. Well, actually, consider them. Here it is. Oh, we will be in LA shooting with Kev on stage for his new show. So perhaps you guys can see a couple of things. We'll drop some pics and like that in our Patreon, but you'll only see it if you're what, subscribed. Subscribed Weekly reminder to go ahead and sign up for the Patreon. What do you get with Patreon? Well, you get exclusive episodes. You know, we do Spin It Only episodes as well as sidebars, by the way, let us know who you would want to see on your the next sidebar. Perhaps we can squeeze one in while we're in la. Just kind of depends on the scheduling. So, yeah, sidebars with your favorite creators. We got Spin it Onlys and then a lot of behind the scenes exclusive content. But then also of course, of course, of course you get the live chat. We didn't do a live chat today because we are kind of just trying to get this wrapped in really quick. But yeah, you get a chance to watch us record the podcast live, which means you get it earlier before anybody else. What else am I missing?
B
Slumber party spinach.
A
Yeah.
B
And maybe we'll come up with some other stuff. We're still. We're kind of running around like chickens with our head cut off these last few weeks, you know, but that's good problems to have. We're busy with Girls are booked and busy. So.
A
Yes, also speaking of booked and busy, if you guys are in Atlanta April 25, me and Mecca will be on a panel with Charlemagne the God.
B
The God at the Black Effect Festival.
A
Black Effect Podcast Festival. So if you haven't already, go ahead and get your tickets to that and come see us. We would love to see you guys.
B
There's going to be a lot of good panels though, so definitely, I mean, definitely tap in with the festival as a whole. There are a couple panels that was like, oh, I'm definitely gonna. You know, since we'll be there, I want to go see them, you know. Yeah. Know all of our faves. But like, yeah, they, they did a good job with that lineup for Shit show.
A
But yeah, so go ahead and do that and we'll see you guys next week. Bye. When it's time to scale your business, it's time for Shopify. Get everything you need to grow the way you want. Like all the way. Stack more sales with the best converting checkout on the planet. Track your cha chings from every channel right in one spot. And turn real time reporting into big time opportunities. Take your business to a whole new level. Switch to Shopify. Start your free trial today.
Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
Date: April 9, 2026
This week, Jamila and Mecca return with a timely and lively episode, bringing listeners into their post-surgery, post-404 Weekend, pre-LA travel whirlwind. Jamila shares her candid experience with her recent breast augmentation ("The Bentley has been parked"), the duo relive Atlanta's infamous 404 Weekend chaos, dissect celebrity gaffes (including the wild saga of Trick Daddy at an AKA event), debate pop culture and personal stories, and give insightful — and hilarious — advice to a young listener navigating dating as a late bloomer. True to form, the conversation is authentic, explicit, and packed with zillenial humor.
Jamila’s Post-Op Experience: Jamila gives a full update on her breast augmentation recovery, detailing both the expected and surprising aspects.
"For the first day, I was heavily medicated...the pain level never really got above a 6, but it was more so a tightness, and it was kind of hard to breathe. That was freaking me out because I’m claustrophobic." – Jamila (03:30)
Visual Tease: Jamila flashes the progress for viewers, noting the post-op "high" position of her implants.
The Citywide Party: Mecca and Jamila recount their wild Atlanta 404 Weekend antics, celebrating all things ATL but running into logistical nightmares.
“When Black folks start running, everybody start running.” – Jamila (14:52)
Aftermath: A shooting at Piedmont Park made news; friends were stuck in the garage for over 2 hours.
Reflective: Despite the chaos, the hosts celebrate their ability to navigate and make the most out of wild weekends.
Mecca’s Birthday Prank: Mecca’s friends trick her into thinking she’s heading to a streetwear influencer event, only for it to become a surprise party.
Food Reveries: Mecca rhapsodizes about crockpot collard greens and post-party comfort foods.
Travel Stress: Both hosts prepare to fly for work and vent about post-pandemic TSA lines.
“TSA was ungodly – you stood in line for six hours and didn’t make your plane?...Somebody gotta answer.” – Jamila (22:35)
Tax Anxiety: Shout out to "Tax Time Tony" for saving them from tax-related panic.
Dentist Dread: Jamila relives childhood dental trauma and her reliance on nitrous gas.
“The only thing I like about the dentist is that suction.” – Jamila (26:47)
The Viral Saga: Trick Daddy performs at an AKA event, causing controversy for raunchy lyrics.
“Y’all booked Trick Daddy for SARC? Get out of my face. Y’all know better than that.” – Jamila (29:28)
“She crossed at an HBCU in the 90s. She went to Freaknik...that was Dr. Heavenly.” – Jamila (29:11)
DaBaby’s Fan Encounter: Fan paints art of DaBaby’s daughters (based on his own IG), gets publicly rebuffed—was it a violation or overreaction?
“If you really...felt uncomfortable him having that picture...why didn’t you take it?” – Jamila (46:39)
“DaBaby just wants to tell someone he was gonna beat your ass. Like, he killed somebody in Walmart...it always comes off like that.” – Mecca (45:39)
The hosts take a deep, candid dive into sexual discovery, preferences (grower vs. shower; circumcised vs. not), physiology, and the brutal honesty of “ball prints” and “blankets” (i.e., foreskin).
Hilarious Unfiltered Moments:
“I have never seen a ball print, bro...Get those tennis balls outta your pocket!” – Mecca (56:08/56:48)
Listener Letter:
20-year-old Black woman, Catholic, African immigrant parents, late to dating, struggles with self-image and dating confidence, wants to know how to start dating and when to tell her parents.
Key Points & Advice:
“Let go of the idea of a boyfriend. You’re still very young. You need to get your feet wet...and learn how to talk to boys.” – Jamila (66:10)
“There’s a misconception...using sex as the reason a man did some fuck shit. No, the nigga was going to do it regardless.” – Jamila (72:21)
This episode is Unhinged & Immoral at its best: vulnerable, uproarious, and brimming with insight and zillenial energy. From breast augmentation chronicles to Black Greek life scandals, and from chaotic Atlanta weekends to heartfelt (and explicit) advice for late-bloomers, Jamila and Mecca keep it real, raucous, and relatable every step of the way.