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- [00:00]
A
She flowing in that cash talk Walk in the booth like Naomi on the catwalk and tell them bitches whoop, whoop from the jaguar it ain't even right, though Push me and I might go, she ain't getting money. I'm like, what the fuck the hype for when them bitches bite flow make my appetite go poof gone. Voila. Magic looking mad good just to pull up on them rampant. What's up, everybody? My name is Jamila Bell.
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B
Hey, y'all. My name is Mecca. I go by Mecca Valley on social, on all socials.
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A
Welcome to the Unhinged and Immoral podcast. And let's just say it's been unhinged.
- [00:36]
B
When I say we were supposed to record this podcast at 10am Jameela and I actually woke up early at 7 on FaceTime with each other, trying to figure things out. I have never felt more like my boomer parents ever in my life. Our producer, Melissa, we called her, like, oh, we don't know what's going on. And she was like, what version of iOS do you have? I told her, she was like, that's old. So then I had to spend, like, another, like, the immediate, it's your iOS, but then spent like an hour updating everything. And then even after we got that done, trying to get headphones, trying to make sure the sound sounds good. I mean, we don't even know. My microphone didn't work, so if you've ever seen me go live on TikTok, I'm using that microphone. Like, we have a lot of notes. This is going to be a learning process for all of us.
- [01:26]
A
And honestly, you know, that's exactly what I'm sure you guys expected from our podcast. Very much raw and uncut. I feel like that's just the best way to move about things. I don't know. You're getting very much us raw and in the flesh, but I guess a little bit more.
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B
Yeah, like, we're trying to figure it out still.
- [01:44]
A
So a little bit about what you guys can expect from Unhinged and Immoral. The podcast is definitely very raw, unfiltered opinion, think pieces. Very similar to what we do on TikTok, but a little bit different because, you know, TikTok got guidelines on here. We don't. We're going to be saying all the things that we feel like saying. But also, y'all know we both have Jamila.
- [02:06]
B
Can I say something? Can I say something, nigga?
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
It's so funny how people think I started saying N word on TikTok to be cheeky and fun, but it's literally because they kept getting me and taking.
- [02:20]
A
My videos, so we can't say anything. So now we're going to say all of the niggas we want and all of the things, so expect that. And, you know, we both have a background in communications, so we're going to be having our segment Spin Off. So it's going to. It's going to be real hot and heavy, lots of things on the way.
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B
Wait, you called it Spin off or Spin It?
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A
What did I say?
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B
You said Spin Off. It's Spin It.
- [02:45]
A
Oh, well, yeah, but we know what you mean.
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B
We know what you mean. We just still. We figuring it out, y'all. Maybe we call it Spin Off. That's cute, too.
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A
Hey, well, unraw and unfiltered, here we are. So I think, Mecca, we need to tell them about our upbringing, like, how we got to know each other.
- [03:04]
B
I was literally. You took the words right out of my mouth. So I was going to say, I know you was talking about. You wanted to kind of talk about our friendship, because I feel like once. Well, not so much now, since we've been doing the podcast and being very intentional without being seen together and whatnot, but for a long time there, I felt like every couple months, people would find out we knew each other for real. And it was like, oh, but mind you, I would. I. Whenever I talk about my friends on TikTok, I always mention everyone by name. So I always notice in the comments, they'd be like, this is the Jameela you're talking about. Because, you know, it is, like, a relatively common name. And they'd be like, yes, this happens to be the Jamila I've been talking about.
- [03:44]
A
Yeah. And honestly, that would crack me up to this day. Like, they would be in my comments, like, wait, you're the Jameela? I'm like, well, yes, guys. They're like, oh, wait, you guys know each other for real? Like, not. This isn't like a TikTok friendship. We're like, yeah, didn't we say we were college roommates? Y'all didn't hear that part.
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B
Y'all, Y'all. Y'all completely skipped over it. So do you wanna tell them how we became roommates or. Kinda messy in itself.
- [04:08]
A
Honestly, I'm gonna say, well, if you've ever been to college and you've ever stayed in a dorm room, I feel like everybody has a freshman dorm room experience with a roommate not being so delicious. Let's just Say that. I feel like everybody has a roommate story. And it just so happened that our freshman year, that first semester, fall semester, we both had roommates that just were not really conducive to the way we wanted to live our lives.
- [04:34]
B
Mine moved out within three days of like, mine. Like, Hampton has this thing called NSO week, where it's like the welcoming. The freshmen arrive to school a week before school starts, before everyone gets there. My roommate moved out in 72 hours. She told y'all you weren't even hanging out with us at that point. She told Elantra and them that she thought I was going to rob her. I think I just came off really rough around the edges. Like, I don't know. I don't know what I would have ever said to her in three days to make her think I was going to rob her.
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A
She got the fuck out of there.
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B
No, she did. And mind you, the way she packed up was crazy. Like, I came in from class and like, she was all packed up. She had actually. I will never forget this. Her mom told me she made her, like, she had her mom do her dirty work. I said, wow, well, that was really a suck ass bitch move. Like, why are you. Why am I talking to a 40 year old woman? And she's like, no, I don't want you to be mad at her. You know, I want you guys to be cool. She just, she's. She's a little weird. And mind you, your mama was shit talking you low key the whole time. And she was like, I knew she should have had a single. And she ended up going to. What's that? What was the single girl dorm Moten the mo. I almost said something crazy. The mote and misses and it's like.
- [05:48]
A
Okay, girl, you know, I really didn't see much of her after that, just in general.
- [05:53]
B
I didn't either. I used to see her around campus and she would avoid me like the plague child. To this day, I don't know what I did to her in three days. And mind you, we had met on Twitter. We was cool. We had been texting for, you know, like that whole summer, right? So I was legitimately caught off guard. And that's why when I was telling her mom, I was like, oh, well, she could have told me. She wanted to. Like, I was really confused. I could tell her mom low key felt bad because, you know, like, you send your child to college and they're already fucking up. Like, I remember the part about she had told the one girl who we used to hang out with that. She hid all her credit cards and money under her pillow because she thought I was going to steal it. And that really offended me. And I told her mama that. I said, why did, why does she think I'm a steal from her? I said, my mom gives me money too. I remember like, like, you know how when you talking to a grown woman. But I remember that was one of the first times as like a 17, 18 year old, I was popping my shit at someone who I saw who I thought was like an adult. You know what I'm saying? Cause it was like, why does she, why does she walk around tell people I finna steal from her? I'm not poor. My mama be giving me money too. She you not the only one. And she was like, no, I understand, I understand. Yes. That was the first time I had popped off at like an adult low key. Because I was really offended because mind you, at that point I definitely did have parents who please send me money for pizza, please. I need this, that and that. So I'm like, why the fuck would I steal your daughter's money? My parents don't tell me no. So like, like the math is not mathing on that.
- [07:24]
A
And it's like if I wanted to steal from you, I was just going to do it. Like what you being my roommate was going to change that? If I'm a thief, I'm a thief. I'll come at you in the calf, bitch.
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B
But hey, and damn near low key. You know, I used to be taking umbrellas from the lost and found.
- [07:42]
A
That was gonna be like. But you know what? Mecca, she's not far off. Cause you earthy. Cause remember you stole that girl pizza when she went. Mecca stole it.
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B
I did.
- [07:54]
A
To this day this the funniest shit Mecca has ever fucking done.
- [07:57]
B
You know, I told her, I told her not this last year, but 2023 homecoming.
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A
That shit is so fucking.
- [08:03]
B
I was drunk on. I was drunk as hell at the tailgate and came clean. And we were sitting there cracking up.
- [08:07]
A
Child. Yeah, Mecca stole this girl food when everybody had left for Thanksgiving. And but what makes it sicker is when we all got back, she put out this message like somebody stole my frozen pizza.
- [08:19]
B
Whatever the she printed off. I know you seen it on Twitter, the girl print off them signs.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Of the boys. She did the same thing that she printed. Like that's. You know what? Cuz this jam, you don't understand the situation. She was putting them. Them wanted posters up or the missing pizza posters up. And then on the post I never forget this. She had put a little picture of the pizza, like the. It was what a little red baron she went through.
- [08:51]
A
She had effort.
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B
No, she printed 50, like, posters. And she happened to be putting one up in front of, like, my. Our little. What. What became our little world room. So, like, she putting it up, and I'm like. But I remember, like, we knew her. We got up for her because, you know, perfume and, like, all these things. So I'm coming out the room, I'm like, hey, girl, dah, dah, dah. Now, mind you, when I ate the pizza, obviously not who it belonged to, and it was Thanksgiving break, and I stayed. I was the only girl in VC. Just me and Ms. King, girl. I mean, Lexi, because, you know, every time I call her Ms. King, now she get mad.
- [09:25]
A
We're adults now, right? We can call her by her.
- [09:29]
B
Me and Lexi was the only one. And Ms. King was our graduate assistant FY. So she was like a grad student at the time. And she. It was me and her there for Thanksgiving. And, you know, I just. I was chilling anyway. I just was like, it's a frozen pizza in here. I was lit. I wanted it. And I definitely warmed up and ate it. And I helped her. When she was outside my door, I.
- [09:51]
A
Said, hey, girl, I just know in your mind you're like. Like, did you ever feel guilty?
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B
I didn't put two and two together until she had put. Like. She was. I said, what are you doing? And she's like, I'm making a poster. Cause someone ate my pizza. And it was like a little pan pizza. And she handed me the sign and I was like. I said, girl, they got you fucked up. Come on, I'm gonna help you. I helped to put them posters up, too.
- [10:18]
A
Yeah, I know your crazy ass did insane. That's why I said your roommate wasn't far off. She has some level of discernment on.
- [10:29]
B
It was when I went to Elantra Room and they seen the posters, they was laughing about it. And I was like, yeah.
- [10:35]
A
Oh, God. That shit was. When you finally came clean, that shit was so fucking funny. I'm like, yeah, you're actually nuts. But I don't know. That solidified you in my book. I'm like, ah, I like her. I like a crazy bitch. I don't know.
- [10:51]
B
We're going to take a break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
- [10:57]
A
So my roommate, on the other hand, she did not think I was a thief, but she definitely thought I was her nigga. Or something. Because every time I would wake up, her bare ass would be in front of me. And I do mean bare ass, booty cheeks. And if y'all don't know anything about them old school ass dorm rooms, they're this fucking big. And I could reach my hand out and touch her bed, and she was very comfortable. She would go to the little communal showers that we had, you know, shout out to them 1980s dorm rooms and communal showers. She'll go in the communal shower, she would come back, take that motherfucking towel off, and I would open my eyes and boom. It was ass in my fucking face. And I would be like, oh, every single time, like, okay, girl, it's day three. Like, I don't even know you like that. And that will always shock me because it was just always booty butt, ass naked all day long. And I just was like, damn, it really takes you a long time to get dressed. And so that was always frustrating to me. But then also, she started, like, popping off on me about little shit, I guess about, like, when I would leave and come back, and it's like, ooh, yeah, no, I don't know. The energy was just off. She never even really did anything specific to me for me to, like, want to beat her ass. It was just very much like, I don't like you. We're not. We don't mesh.
- [12:05]
B
Was your roommate the stinky girl? Did she also stink? If I remember correctly, I'm pulling deep. I'm pulling deep from the messy banks of my mom child. But if I'm not mistaken, she was also known for being a. Having a tinge, a twang.
- [12:25]
A
There was no derp.
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B
And honestly, it really wasn't just being Jamila's roommate. Like, the dorm kind of knew she had a scent.
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A
It was just. It was a lot, you know?
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B
Cause I do remember when Jamila asked. Cause like I said, my roommate moved out, so I essentially wasn't a single. And when we started getting cool and you had dropped, like, possibly being my roommate, I remember distinctly that was one of the reasons you sighted. And it's like, how can I not feel for a girl who is having to be around funk all the time?
- [13:01]
A
And it was just also, like, uncomfortable. Like, you know how you would bring people into your dorm room to, like, have a little kiki or whatever, you know? Raynelle used to come into my dorm all the time.
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B
I was gonna say. Cause you used to stay in Raynell's room all the time.
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A
Yes, I just stopped staying in my room. Like, it would be me and her sleeping in that damn twin size like we was two lesbian couples.
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B
Because you are. Y'all was both biggest. Thumbelina, just petite.
- [13:22]
A
We was both 5ft, probably 90 pounds. We was up in that twin.
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B
Baby girl right now was £75.
- [13:27]
A
No, right now. Because you was 85.
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B
And right now. I remember when I was in Raynell Room with y'all one time, I felt like the biggest, fattest bitch ever. Like I said, I'm here with two little tiny slivers of people.
- [13:42]
A
I remember going on, are y'all sleeping in bed together? And we were like, yes. He was like, y'all are. Bitches are weird.
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B
He was like, what? Was all cuddled up and it was crazy that y'all fit in there like that. I just was not. I would say I ain't never seen nothing like that, girl. I didn't even want to.
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A
We was damn near in a Queen Bethesda. Would have felt like the way we both fed in that little twin size bed. You could do a lot in a twin size bed. That's what I will say. You could do a lot in a.
- [14:10]
B
You would know. I wouldn't. I wasn't sure. I made sure I went and got my V card swiped in the harbor in a queen size. Well, I said, I don't know about the rest of you young bitches, but I respect myself.
- [14:21]
A
Yes, The V card. Well, actually was out on the couch the first time. No, I was on the. I was in the bed. I was in bed. I was in the bed. Yes, I was in bed. That's actually how we bonded. Fun fact, everybody. Me and Megan were both virgins when we came to college. We were so tender, and we were just good girls. We've never seen a boy. And we were both equally boy crazy also. So we were, like, actually very pressed to lose our virginity. We were, like, really excited. So it was kind of like, okay, bitch, let's see who can do it first. And I did win the bet. I did get some dick first.
- [14:57]
B
She won. Sometimes when I think about, like, you know how I think that, you know, with society being, oh, my God, you need to hold on to your virginity forever. And thinking about how pressed we were to get it off of us, that we literally created a little competition, like, who's going to do it first? Because I remember when you, Jamila did win. She was fast. She won. But I was like, oh, well, now I really have to get on it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I think. I think I was. Well, I got it in, like, A two week span within you. It really wasn't that far after because I felt like at that point it was time to get to business. I was pussyfooting around.
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A
So for sure. And you know, it's funny because we both lost our opportunities to older guys. And I know at that time thinking.
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B
Like, if I'm not mistaken, they were both seniors.
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A
Yes. And it's so funny because I literally remember thinking to myself, like, bitch, you bitches with me. Like, my is a senior. Whole time was playing my stupid young ass. Like, of course it's easy to a senior bitch. You're young and stupid.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
I thought I was a cold.
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B
Yeah. My. My had a house and he didn't even stay in the Harves. He stayed a little bit off. You feel me? I just thought about that. I said that wasn't even a harps. That was because we. We used to have to get Marv.
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A
To drive us over there.
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B
Remember? I wanted to bounce out on him.
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A
Yeah, I definitely. I definitely was in them Harper's apartments, though. Yes, at Harper's apartment.
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B
You was in the harvest. I wasn't in the harvest. I was over there on set. What was that set list? It wasn't the heritage either. It was like a random little duplex within the vicinity of downtown Hampton.
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A
Yes, yes.
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B
But I will say, I don't know about you, but I actually got my first kiss and lost my virginity in the same night. What?
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A
Mecca?
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B
That's how. Yeah.
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A
Bitch was just wrong. Bitch ain't had. Oh, so you was really young and tender.
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B
I. I've told this story on Tik Tok.
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A
So that was your first time sucking dick too?
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B
I didn't even suck dick. I didn't even do that the first time, so. Wow. I didn't like the way it looked, honestly. If I'm being honest, it was ugly.
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A
So do you feel like you kissed good or do you feel like it was just like a little stumble?
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B
I think. I don't know what I was expecting. I remember I thought I peed on myself when I. When I got wet that first time. I like, got up. I like ran to the bathroom. Christians, you have to teach your children about their bodies. Because the way I lost my virginity was just truly a shit show. I really. I ranted. I really thought I had peed on myself. Like, it's not.
- [17:34]
A
Oh, my God. No, that's. I got a.
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B
So quick. And then the. No, I'm not even done. Guardians of the Galaxy was playing in the background. So there's just. To age Myself, Guardians of the Galaxy was playing. It was that scene where he chases Zoe Saldana through the fucking intergalactic city or whatever. I don't know. But when he stuck it in, it did very. It hurt. And I obviously didn't like it. So I said, I. Like. He took it out, right? And he was like, I only have one condom. And I was like, okay, so take it off and use it later.
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A
No, baby.
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B
He was like, no.
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
Mecca. Shit. I was green as fuck.
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A
I mean, green, bitch.
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B
It was really bad.
- [18:19]
A
I had my first kiss when I was in high school. It was this boy. We had went to the movies, and I was so fucking nervous because I knew I was gonna have my first kiss in there. I just knew. Cause it was a scheme that Todd set up because we had met them at the football game the day before, and my friend at the time was trying to hook me up with him.
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B
So they didn't go to your school?
- [18:41]
A
No. So the one of the boys, he used to go to our school, he transferred. So he had came back for the football game, and he was talking to my homegirl, and my homegirl at the time was like, trying to hook me up with his homeboys. I was like, okay, cool. You know what I'm saying? I got to get these rocks off somehow. I've always been young, hot, fresh, and fast. But, you know, I'm also real scary. So I was, okay, yeah, yeah. It's time to, you know, inch it up. I'd be. I was ready to talk to a boy. So we get to the movies, and I just already knew because we sat in pairs, and everybody was in a different quadrant of the theater. I said, oh, my God, it's about to get freaky in this bitch. I turn over and I see somebody tongue and down. I'm like, we were actually watching Columbiana. Mm.
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B
So I'm sitting there. Another Zoe Saldana. Classic Zoe.
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A
Colombian girl.
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B
Such a good movie.
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A
It was. I was. Mind you, I was actually, like, getting like, I'm watching my. I'm watching the movie. Like, wow, this is good. I'm just like this because I'm one.
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B
Does when they watch Columbiana.
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A
This is a good movie. Next thing I know, the hand is over my shoulder, and I'm like. Like, I'm actually really terrified because I'm like, fuck, I'm gonna kiss this nigga. Like, what do I do? Like, I got big ass fucking lips. Like, what if my lips don't know what to do? Like, I'm really freaking out because I'm like, oh. So then he starts, like, pulling me closer. Now I'm still, like, just staring at the. At the damn screen, like, trying to.
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B
Act like I don't know what the.
- [19:57]
A
Fuck is going on. Then the n. A grabs my damn chin to, like. You know, they. When they try to turn this shit. Like, I'm like. So then I started kissing him, and I immediately. I immediately stick my tongue out. That's when I knew I was just fast. Cause why the fuck did I immediately stick my tongue out?
- [20:12]
B
That's crazy.
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A
I immediately.
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B
Because I didn't even initially stick my tongue out. I was like. I thought we was gonna kiss.
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A
Like, yeah, no, as soon as he put them. Listen, I said I was ready. I was just. And I was just kissing him. I think I did good. But in hindsight, I probably sucked for real. I was probably just being messy because I was, like. I said, I was just so eager to put my tongue down somebody's throat.
- [20:35]
B
I will say I do remember vividly that the person's lips was smaller than mine, which was like, I had never, like, felt not that interesting. Cause it's like you as someone who also has big lips, when someone's lips are significantly smaller than yours, you can feel it.
- [20:53]
A
Yeah.
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B
So I remember being like, this is interesting. Like, so, one, I'm getting a first kiss for the first time. But two, I'm also, like, really having this concept that, like, oh, all lips don't feel the same. I don't know. It was very weird.
- [21:09]
A
Yeah, it was interesting. But that wasn't. I feel like my sexual. Sexual escapades were, like, gradual. So I had my first kids. I think I was, like, a sophomore or junior. And then I didn't do anything sexual again until I was a senior when I had my first boyfriend. But all I did was do a little, you know, a little sucky sucky. But that was still so terrifying for me. Cause I was just like, omg. Like, what if I get caught with somebody's penis in my mouth? What? I never did.
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B
That's crazy.
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A
But it felt so fun, and, like, you know, he would, like, finger me.
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B
And it felt so fun. Oh, yeah, you was. You was young and fast, bitch.
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A
But also, it's funny because he, like, I know specifically, he asked me if I wanted to, like, have sex. And I just would say, no, I'm good. I'm good here. This is cool. Because I was really scared that it was going to hurt. And I actually planned to lose my virginity prom night, because I felt like that was very tv. And like, that was very much like a TV moment. And I was so excited to do that because I'm like, that's exactly what would happen on tv. I cannot wait to lose my virginity prom night. Because at that time my boyfriend was. He was a year older, so he had graduated. So again, I was feeling very like, cool. I'm like, you bitches have n your age. You bitches are dating N s. In high school, I got myself a grown 19 year old bitch. You know, I was feeling myself. But he didn't want to go to the prom with me. So I was like, okay, my niggas gonna pick me up after the prom. So we go to the prom, we have a good time. Actually go to prom with my best friend. And afterwards, you know, I said, see y'all later. My nigga picking me up. So he picked me up. I'm thinking we're going to go to a hotel. This nigga take me back to his fucking grandparents house. Whole fucking brother. But I'm like, okay, but let me tell y'all how my fucking night was ruined. Cause that's the day I got my fucking period. The first day of my period, mind you. I couldn't even. I couldn't even fake it till I made it. That was actually the first day I used the fucking tampon.
- [23:06]
B
Well, God said you were gonna have some first that night. Just not.
- [23:09]
A
He said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You sticking something in your coochie for damn sure, bitch. A tampon. Get to it. So yeah, when I got back to his house, I was so sad.
- [23:18]
B
I would say for me too, it was gradual when I lost my virginity and then I didn't have sex with that person again. I actually didn't. What? I lost my virginity like in January, I believe of that.
- [23:30]
A
Like at the beginning, that second semester.
- [23:32]
B
Yeah. Of freshman year. Um, and then I didn't have sex again until fall semester of sophomore year.
- [23:40]
A
Oh, wow.
- [23:41]
B
So probably. What was that? August. Probably like September. Okay. Because I ended up getting me a little military boo.
- [23:49]
A
Oh, yes. I.
- [23:51]
B
So it had hurt so bad that I was like, okay. And then what? This is. This is so much information. Oh, my God. I don't even think we planned to talk about this. But whatever.
- [23:59]
A
I've never.
- [24:00]
B
I don't even think I've ever said this out loud. I was talking to him and he was like, we were fucking with each other the long ways. That's what's crazy. Like I still have him on Facebook to this day. Like, that was really my. I think that if he hadn't ended up getting deployed. I might have. Would have ended up, like, really, like, staying with someone. Because you. I feel like I do have the personality where I will. I. You know, I'll just. I'll just kick you with someone. I'm not really tripping. Too bad.
- [24:25]
A
Well, thank God for deployments.
- [24:27]
B
I started talking to him, and he was. He was. Yeah, he was a little bit older, but at that point, I was like, 19. He was like, 21 or 22. And he had, like, to get it in a lot. And I will say his dick was a lot bigger than the person I lost my virginity to. So I feel like I had told him, I said, I've only had sex one time. And her. He was like, oh, you got to. You got to keep doing it, you know, for it to feel good. I will give it to him. Point prove. After the third time, I said, I.
- [25:01]
A
Think the fuck y'all talking about. Oh, yeah, you definitely said, that's the thing. Like, that first time, I said, okay, now, I know I was excited, baby, but fuck, that hurts. But I will say, you know, I did start having sex at that point, and I haven't stopped since. No shade. Well, actually, I did. I did have some moments of breaks. I'm lying because after I had got pregnant, I literally didn't have sex my whole pregnancy. I didn't have sex the next year. It was like two, three years that I didn't have sex. I didn't even talk to nobody. So that was like, I became a virgin again at that point that my virginity had restarted. So then when I. Yeah, yeah, that's how that works. Yeah, that's literally how that works. Honestly, at any time I go a couple of weeks or a couple of months and, like, you start fucking a new nigga. Like, it's a little bit of a. Like, it's a little. You know what I'm saying? It's not the easiest. So I just feel like, revirginity. Revirginity. But that first time, getting back in the swing of things after all them years. Oh, my. Oh, God. I lost my virginity again. Oh, God. It felt the same. I said, well, shit.
- [26:09]
B
I will say I feel like that would hurt only because if you don't. If you don't have sex for, like, a couple months, you be feeling it.
- [26:18]
A
Literally. That's why I'm like, I don't know what these people are.
- [26:21]
B
I was. It's not. It's not celibate because they always try and correct me and say, no, you're abstinent. But I was abstinent for like a year. What year was that? 2022. And I, I feel like I enjoyed it. I'm glad I did it. It was like a really eye openening. I feel like I learned a lot about myself. Like the whole woo woo like self discovery situation. I will say 2023, New Year's, I hit the ground running. I led as you should. I let a, I let a trinity man I met in the club neck me.
- [26:55]
A
Oh.
- [26:58]
B
And I went home and I said that's a great start to the year. And I just said I don't never want to be absent again. And I have it.
- [27:06]
A
Thank you for those lessons. I'm good.
- [27:09]
B
Like literally. Thank you God for those lessons.
- [27:12]
A
And you know what? That's what I'm going to call that little stint when I had, you know, when I was pregnant and after because I was not having no type of sex. I mean I wasn't even having a thought of or a concept of sex. So I'm going to say I was celibate then. It was not intentional but it just kind of turned out that way. And of course I was going through a breakup but at the same time, you know, I did go through a moment where I tried to make it work with that person. But then I said, well I'm also not going to have sex with you so. Because I just like when you start fudgeing, like your mind starts to get concluded convoluted. Your mind gets convoluted and you be thinking that you still like this nigga whole time you was just horny. So it's like no, I'm literally not going to have sex with you. And then that's how I'm going to make my decision. And I had a sound clear decision. Oh yeah, no, I don't want to beat you ever again. Thanks though.
- [28:01]
B
Well, so that's why I really think that if you're going to be dating you need to get you a little naked to the left who you don't really want anything with, who is strictly there to do just that. I feel like if you go into, if you're dating and you're not like trying to hunch on something, it makes dating really easy and like clear headed. If you don't want to become like completely absent. Yes.
- [28:25]
A
Honestly dating now at 28 is so much more fun because I feel like there's all, there's like pre and post for me. There's like pre Noah and post Noah, like pre Noah. I was Very. Like, I felt like I was so pressed. Like, I. Every guy I talked to, I imagined me being in a relationship with them. And I was, like, waiting on that. That opportunity to become, like, getting in the fucking relationship. And it's like, when I think back, it's like, bitch, why were you trying to get in a relationship with this n. He wasn't even eating your coochie. Something's got to be wrong. Well, you know, like, we gotta. We gotta start, you know, using our common sense. But I was just so pressed that a nigga was trying to talk to me, because I didn't experience that up until college. Like, niggas was not checking for me at all in high school. So I didn't. I. I got no play at all. So when I got in college and all of a sudden, you know what I'm saying, the niggas was checking for me. I'm like, well, I have to give everybody a chance. Well, hi.
- [29:22]
B
How are you? I feel like that was my problem. Well, not my problem. I gave everyone a chance. You know, I had a good time in college. I had me a good time in college.
- [29:29]
A
I, too.
- [29:30]
B
My mom told me not to get a boyfriend. That's the only thing I ever listened to that she said. And she told me to keep up with my good girl. And that was something else I listened to. You know, Hampton's real small. They like to talk.
- [29:41]
A
It is. You know, we're going to take a break, and we'll be right back. And we're back.
- [29:48]
B
I lost my virginity to a Hampton man, and he graduated. Got the fuck. I didn't catch that second Hampton body till 20. Till what? 20, 19. 2020. The pandemic, you know? And that was a body I had wanted since I. And that was a body I had wanted since my freshman.
- [30:04]
A
Let's talk about getting. That's what's more important to me. Fuck the body count. Did you get the niggas you wanted? Because you already know my story. There was a nigga at Hampton that I had my eye on from day one. And I was on the prowl and on the hunt. I said, that's my eye. I love him, y'all. I would tell everybody, like, I love him. Didn't even. Never even talk to this nigga. I just see him walking in the caf like, I love him. And I will never get. Literally, our spring semester, we started working together because, you know, I used to work in the caf, but during the. During the games. So during the basketball games, I was working, you know, throwing People. A little peanut, a little popcorn, a little cold drink, a little this, a little that. You know, I was doing that.
- [30:45]
B
I'm crying.
- [30:46]
A
Come on. So he was. He started working. So I'm like, oh, my gosh. It's my chance. So I was just like, hey.
- [30:52]
B
Hi.
- [30:52]
A
And I was just, like, so excited. Don't he still hit you up to this day? To this day. To this day. Day, yeah, absolutely. So I started talking to him, and I was so fucking nervous because he was. At that point, he was actually a super senior. That nigga was. He was older than me for sure. Yeah, he was like five or six years older than me, actually. But I didn't give a fuck. I wanted that man bad. And guess what? I got him. Literally, my last day at Hampton as a student. I didn't even know that was going to be my last day because I was under the impression I was coming back that next year. He had called me over. I went to his house. We had a time, and after that, we literally, we were like, dating on and off for, like, four or five years. And so I don't know.
- [31:36]
B
Yeah, that's a crazy story.
- [31:38]
A
When you really get the nigga you want is like, I. I don't know. I have superpowers. Like, it was crazy. I always think about my freshman years. Like, you know what? I thought I was going to be a whore. I really did. I thought I was just going to be a big whore, because I was. I felt like I got on campus, and all of a sudden it's all these niggas that were fine because I went from Dakula High School, which was mostly white. And then of the slim pickings of niggas that there were. They were either not cute or dated white girls. So there was just nothing, really, that interests me. But when I got to Hampton and seen all. It was nothing. But I said, okay, we were already off to a good point.
- [32:13]
B
And see, I feel like a lot of y'all. See, this is where I will. I gotta. I gotta give myself my tens. A lot of y'all really limited yourself to campus. Bitch, you know, I was on Tinder like a motherfucker. I said, let's see what's happening across the bridge on that shit.
- [32:27]
A
You were.
- [32:28]
B
And when. And when I started getting into shit.
- [32:30]
A
Business and, you know, see, you didn't.
- [32:32]
B
Come back for sophomore year.
- [32:34]
A
You weren't scary enough for me. I think I needed you to have a little bit more fear in your heart. Cause the way you was on them apps.
- [32:40]
B
No, no, no, No, I will say, I will say, like, you know how.
- [32:43]
A
You look back like, ooh, God kept.
- [32:45]
B
Me because what the fuck?
- [32:46]
A
Cause what the hell was you doing?
- [32:48]
B
You just hopping in a car with anybody?
- [32:50]
A
My. What the hell?
- [32:52]
B
I used to be like, bye guys, I'm going on a date. He pulls up in a charger, you.
- [32:57]
A
Know, like, who is this?
- [32:58]
B
Just like a military boy.
- [33:00]
A
Yeah.
- [33:01]
B
Honestly, I just had some good times.
- [33:03]
A
I be thinking to myself, like, okay, you know, like I said, I thought I was gonna be a whore my freshman year. That was actually my goal. I intended. I had every well intention to be to just bust things down. Cause I'm like, I feel like I had some catching up to do. And everybody else seems so experienced and I don't know if you remember this. I can't. I'm not going to say his name, but it was. I started talking to this one boy first. He was short, freckles. That's all I'm going to say. And we was talking and I remember we had. I remember we all went to this party and this was like one of my first time. Like, oh, fuck, I do remember him. Yes, yes. So I remember we had went to this party and I mean, oh my gosh, when I tell you we were literally dry humping in that fucking party and I like, he was tongue me down and I felt so, it felt so invigorating. It felt so. I was just like, yes, I had every intention on leading my back to.
- [33:53]
B
A point that you made.
- [33:54]
A
Jamila, you had said this.
- [33:56]
B
What were we talking about this. Maybe it was live yesterday or the day before when you was talking about how you've always loved arho you love an alternative black man. Like how you were like, you like him with a twist out and all this type of shit.
- [34:09]
A
You know, just a little, some type of something in there. Just, you know, let's, let's, let's have fun, right? But what's crazy is I had full intentions on like losing my virginity to him, but apparently he had found out through the damn grapevine that I was a virgin. And he stopped talking to me. And I was like, hey, what's the deal? And he was like, yeah, like, I don't know. Like, I just, I just, you know what I'm saying? I feel like we need to stop talking.
- [34:33]
B
That's why y'all stop talking.
- [34:34]
A
Yeah. If he was like, you know, I heard that you were like a virgin. Everything. I just feel like, you know, I, I don't know, like, I'm just now getting you know, into school, like, and I don't. Like, if you have sex, I wouldn't want you to, like, be in love with me and shit. You're safe.
- [34:46]
B
He wasn't completely off.
- [34:47]
A
I'm like, you know, you're safe. But, like, I was like, okay. But, like, I was really gonna fuck you. Like, ugh. Hey. Okay, so we stopped talking.
- [34:55]
B
I was gonna. I was gonna do my things and go, yeah.
- [34:58]
A
It was just like, well, okay. So then the next nigga got it. It was just like, okay, well, I guess I'm back to the drawing board. And then the next nigga was, you know, the senior nigga. And, like, I. So I very was strategic. I was like, I'm not gonna tell him I'm a virgin. Cause clearly these niggas don't like virgins around this bitch. So let me just pretend like I done been here before. So I'm like, fuck, what can I do to get some dick around this bitch? Damn. Like, y'all rationing, like, what's going on? So I decided that the next thing, I was not gonna tell him I was a virgin, and I didn't tell him. And then the day, like, we were talking for probably, like, a week before, I actually went over to his house at the Slarbs. And then I remember, like, as we were, like, starting to, like, get hot and heavy, I was in my head like, oh, my God, I can't believe this is going to happen. Oh, my gosh. I don't want to do that. And actually, it hurt like a bitch. It definitely did. But honestly, I didn't want to tell him that it hurt because again, I was trying to pretend like I was not a virgin. And in hindsight, it's like, bitch, you're doing a lot. But, you know.
- [36:00]
B
Can I ask you something, Jamila?
- [36:01]
A
What?
- [36:02]
B
Can I ask you something? Now, when people ask, like, oh, how friends are you? How friends are you and Jameela? You didn't come back to Hampton sophomore year, but you did come back for homecoming, which was also a shit show. I did.
- [36:16]
A
And I had a time.
- [36:16]
B
Do you remember we were in my. Do you remember we were in my big living room and because we were. Because you were out there, so we all slept there. I. Like, when I think about.
- [36:26]
A
I already know exactly what you're about to say, but go ahead.
- [36:29]
B
I said, we were so young and crunk and crazy, and that was really crazy of me, and I will apologize to you in a public. In a public place, child. I will say this. I definitely got my Back beating with Jamila on the other end of the couch.
- [36:49]
A
And meanwhile, I'm knocked the fuck out.
- [36:52]
B
Mind you, I. To this day, I knew she, like. The whole reason I didn't mind doing it was because I was so confident she wasn't gonna wake up. Because anybody knows?
- [37:03]
A
I was gonna say, everybody knows when I sleep, baby. I.
- [37:05]
B
She was. And Jamila was really sleep this whole time. And mind you, the couch was like, what you. Like a sectional? So it really wasn't like. It wasn't like we were two feet. You was really on the end that belonged. And then I was on the way on the other end. But this is what always makes me laugh about that situation. People started waking up because it's homegumming. Everybody's lit like we're drunk. This is the first time I had someone net on my face. But I did not give him. I didn't give him consent to. So mind you, no, no. Like, I'll never forget. And the way he did it, he bounced like he was on top of me, and then he, like, jumped up and then just everywhere. Now, mind you, I don't know this is gonna happen.
- [37:54]
A
What if it got on me, Becca?
- [37:57]
B
No, you were too far away. It wouldn't have never got on you. But, bitch, I'm not lying. I busted out crying. I had. I was like, I would never forget. I was crying so bad. I said, you don't respect me. You just met it on my face. And he's like, mind you, we're in this house. You're asleep over here. Everyone's sleeping the room. He's like, no, calm down. I'm sorry.
- [38:24]
A
I'm so. Oh, my God.
- [38:25]
B
And I'm just like, oh, my God.
- [38:28]
A
Jesus Christ.
- [38:29]
B
Teenager.
- [38:30]
A
It was too much, you know, it's just like, wow, that wasn't a. That was an eventful weekend for me, for sure.
- [38:37]
B
It wasn't eventful weekend.
- [38:39]
A
You know, it's always, you know, is there, like, is there any shout out.
- [38:44]
B
To the drinking games? The drinking games are always going to reflect.
- [38:49]
A
It needs to be revealed. It's going to always reveal something things. Is there, like, anybody, like, from your past? There's only one person. I always say that. There's only one person I would really double back on. And, you know, to this day, you know, we be kikiing or whatever, but it's like, we, we. You know, that's who you would go back on. Yeah, for sure.
- [39:10]
B
I'm crying.
- [39:10]
A
I was gonna see him homecoming, which is crazy. Like, we. We had already planned on like, seeing each other for homecoming. Um, but we ended up doing one music festival. I was just like, ah, welp, farewell.
- [39:21]
B
That can't be a serious double back, though.
- [39:24]
A
No, I don't think that would have to be.
- [39:25]
B
I'm a double back. And have fun.
- [39:27]
A
No, for sure. I don't think it would ever.
- [39:29]
B
The things I've heard about how he was moving when he was in a relationship, I'd be like, jamila, please be serious.
- [39:34]
A
Yeah, no, I don't think. I don't think we would ever, like, work out realistically as a relationship. But I do remember, as Jill Scott used to say, I remember what we used to do.
- [39:48]
B
That's disgusting.
- [39:51]
A
I'm not gonna lie. Like. Cause you remember your first freak. You always remember your first freak.
- [39:58]
B
True dad. No, no, no, no.
- [40:01]
A
And well. Yeah, so.
- [40:03]
B
And well, I remember that.
- [40:06]
A
Oh, it is. And no, he is.
- [40:09]
B
That is.
- [40:10]
A
That.
- [40:10]
B
That's not surprising to hear.
- [40:12]
A
And I appreciate him for that because he introduced me to things. He did.
- [40:17]
B
He introduced you to a vibe.
- [40:19]
A
He introduced me to things that unfortunately, I have not been able to come back from to this day. I look for those things, like, well, you. Oh, you don't. Oh.
- [40:28]
B
Oh, he fucked. Oh, he fucked your head up good.
- [40:32]
A
For now, when it comes to the rankings, like, there's probably three to four people in. In my catalog, in my Rolodex that. That, like, are on that same level. Everybody else, no, like, absolute. Just. No.
- [40:53]
B
So I'm trying to think, would I double back on anybody? Yes and no. I feel like I'm really lucky. I feel like I'm really lucky. I'm a lucky girl because I. I somehow am able to scope and I have the discernment to tell when a freak. So I think. I think that I give a vibe about me so that when it's time to get down to business, I don't have to, like, say too much. It don't be throwing me. I will say there's been a couple times where it's been like, oh, that was horrible.
- [41:22]
A
I've unfortunately, have had some more than. More than I'd like to say, unpleasant accounts in the bedroom.
- [41:30]
B
Oh, no, no. I probably have had, like. Well, one of them. I gave him another chance and he redeemed himself, but only after I cussed him out for how he performed the first time.
- [41:41]
A
Okay. I've gotten better at being more expressed. Like I said, there's pre and post, Jameela. Right. So post is like, I'm way more vocal at, like. Okay. Not too much or A little bit more, you know, letting them know what I like and don't like. But before, I was just. I was still very. I don't know. Like, I guess I didn't really understand what exactly I needed to say. Like, I couldn't really put my finger on what wasn't good about the situation. So I was still kind of just trying to figure out, well, why are you not as good as that other nigga? What the fuck are you not doing anything? But see, that.
- [42:18]
B
That's what I will. That's what I'll give it. Like, when I. Sophomore year, when I was living on the Navy ship, I really. I was in the. I was in the field. Like, I. That's why I feel like, oh, would I double back on anyone sexually? No, because, like, I be. No, you need to do X. Yeah.
- [42:37]
A
Yeah, you. And I would double back on him because also, like, I was supposed to come. Like, we never. We just literally just stopped talking because I moved. So it was like. It was never no drama between us or anything like that. Like, we were talking for a little bit when I was at Hampton, like, and then, of course, I left, and I never came back. But then I came back for. You know, for homecoming, and we. We saw each other. But then after that, I never even went back to Hampton after that. So it's like I literally have not seen him in years. And I remember he had hit me up one time, like, probably four years ago. Maybe he was in town, but I was busy doing something. Yeah. But I was busy, and I couldn't even link up with him. So that was it. So it was just like. We just haven't really. I guess we haven't had our closure.
- [43:27]
B
Your rendezvous. Well, I hope it happens for you.
- [43:30]
A
Yeah. Before I lock down, which I'm kind of in the. It's like, I kind of don't really want to lock down anytime soon. You know, I've always said, you know, I do plan on being famous, and I just feel like a part of my fame and my scope is I have to be seeing paparazzi running across the street with a mysterious man before I settle down. And that hasn't happened yet, so I'm crying.
- [43:54]
B
Well, I mean, I'm. I feel the same.
- [43:59]
A
We're gonna take a break, and we'll be right back. And we're back.
- [44:05]
B
I'm not rushing. I feel like if you. I was in, like, such a serious relationship in my early 20s where, like, I really was ready to settle that. Even though, like, I'm not rushing. It like, I'm whatever, you know, God has for me, he has for me. I'm not gonna, like, dub a good man. You know, I'm not. I'm not gonna tweak. But I'm also not like, pressed how I like how you're saying pre Noah, post Noah, like, I'm not pressed. I enjoy my life. I think it's because, you know, the older you get, you figure out the things that you like in life. Even I feel like you, you get boy happy, and then happiness comes from boys. And then you're like, oh, well, there's more to life than boys. And then when you get to that point where you're like, I don't really care about the boys, that's when all the boys start coming. And then it's like this weird point where it's like, ah, I see that you're a great guy and da, da, da. But I still. I gotta put me first, Lucious. So I feel like that's kind of where I'm at with it. Like, I recognize that people are, you know, good people and I'm fucking with it, but I'm not panini pressed to, like, get married, per se. I'm also not gonna let anyone drag it. Cause I feel like we're almost 30, so it's like, am I gonna date you for five years? No.
- [45:18]
A
Right, right, right. Yeah. And I feel like that being in a long term relationship will definitely do that to you. Because I was in my relationship for about, I guess you could say about three years. You know, that last year was very touch and go, but I guess we'll count it. And when you've been in a long term relationship, but also when you've been in a more so toxic relationship, it drastically changes you once you are on the other side. Like, I literally felt like I was in a fucking pharmaceutical commercial after I broke free from that nigga. Like, wow, I just want to run. I just want to say hello to everybody.
- [45:56]
B
Hello.
- [45:57]
A
Like, I was just so. Yeah. Ready to just be free from that toxic shit. And it's like on top of that, that shit will make you not never want to go back. Bitch, if I. I don't want. Hell no. I just got so many. Like, I wouldn't even say as guards is just like, no. Like, you. You're not going to pay attention. Yes.
- [46:18]
B
To them red flags. Or I will say I've had both sides. When you're being serious, you'll pay attention to them red flags. Or you start not giving a fudge. So when you see the red flags, it's just like, oh, well, I'm not going to take you seriously. But, yeah, you know, you're kind of good at what you do, so I still fuck with it.
- [46:35]
A
I just have. I'm like. And I move differently, I guess. Like, it just is what it is. Like, we can talk and we can date, and I want to experience you, and I want to have fun, but I also have a child, and so my schedule is not the same. And then on top of that, like, I have a career that I'm putting first. Like, before, I would literally just. The nigga could be like, come over now. And I'm just. But it's like, now I feel like I have choice, and I appreciate me having choice. And this is also just a me thing. But I am not moving in with no more niggas until I get a ring on my finger.
- [47:15]
B
Fair enough. I've never lived with anyone.
- [47:18]
A
It's an experience. I think everybody should do it, though. I definitely think everybody should take that step.
- [47:22]
B
I was gonna say. I used to say no, but, you know, I've been much more open to it lately. So I will say that the whole, like, having to take care of a child, but also putting yourself first. Because I often think about, like, how my ex, who was, like, a toxic relationship, X, Y, and Z, we. At the point in which our relationship was, like, exploding, TikTok was coming up, and that's when I started making TikToks. And obviously, like, I talk a lot of shit. He was real religious, and, like, it was a point of contention. He was like, why are you doing this? This is not, like, of Christ. This is not good representation. And so I often think about, like, oh, my God, if I had listened to you and let you, like, if I had been like, stop, because you said, stop, where would I be? Like, this shit has completely changed my life. So that is just, like, all the motivation I need to, like, never listen to a man, like, ever not to sound like this. And this is no shade to teachers, because my mom's a teacher, but I would have been a teacher in Baltimore, Maryland, if I had listened to him.
- [48:25]
A
So I remember you telling me you were going to teach, and I'm like, okay, Mecca. Teach who? Like, what are you talking about? Like, sometimes, you know, you just be doing.
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B
I would have been a teacher. But, you know, at the same time.
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A
You be doing shit. You got to just let. I got to just let you do the things that you do. You know, you just be just doing things. But it's like, okay, girl. Okay, girl. Okay, girl. But, you know, one thing we haven't talked about yet, which I think it'll be a great closer for this episode, is how we actually always knew we were going to be exactly here in some form or facet. I specifically remember a very specific conversation we had when we were in our room, and I think we had just. We had either just gotten back from a party or we were about to leave to go to a party, and we were like, okay, so when we're famous, like, how are we going to do this? We just would casually talk about. So when we get famous. And I remember specifically you said, I was thinking I would go the route of dating an athlete and then, like, going on housewives, but I feel like that's my. My way in. And I was like, no, that's totally your way. Oh, my God.
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B
Maddie knew who she was. I. And I used to say this on TikTok all the time. And if you know me, you know that I did. I was dating athletes, and I had achieved my goals, and then I got in them scenes and said, this is fucking ghetto. I'm not having a baby by any of you.
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A
So.
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B
But I remember the conversation as well, and us really plotting and figuring out. And, you know, I think it just speaks to, like, how when you speak things into existence, there's power in the tongue. Like, the tongue has power because the fact that we used to literally say, like, oh, my God, not only are both of us going to be famous, but we're going to be famous together. We're going to do things together. And I specifically also remember us, like, touching on. Okay, so if you get on first, then I'm gonna hit you and we're gonna do this together. Or if I get on first, then you're gonna hit me. And, like, we were making such specific plans.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So casually and so confidently that there's. We, like, we have no choice but to look back at that moment and be like, damn, we really did speak this into existence for ourselves.
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A
Yeah. And honestly, for last weekend, for one music festival when we were walking through, and to have people coming up to us saying, are y'all Megan Jamila from TikTok? That was kind of just like the. Well, well, well, well, well.
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B
Wasn't this what we're talking about?
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A
Yes, it is. I. That was kind of just like the full circle moment. Like, oh, wow. Like, we really. We really are at the precipice of that point. I love that for us.
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B
I really am happy that Also, I think the coolest part about it is that we were able to build, like, our following separately as well. So it's not necessarily, like, we're doing this together. And it's fun. And it's fun because we are actually friends, and we have been friends for so long, but we also do our own independent content and still stand alone and have our own audience there. And I think that sometimes with this type of thing, it can get weird with, like, oh, who has. Who has more followers and who's more known and all this type of shit. And so I really am glad that we were able to, like, do things solo and then come back together so that not only can it be appreciated by everyone else, like, our dynamic, but it's really appreciated by us as well.
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A
Mm. Very organic. Very organic. Yeah.
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B
Do you want to tell them about some of the segments? Do you want to tell them about the spinning segment?
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A
Yes. Okay, so if y'all was watching the TikTok, which I should have been, because that's part of your homework, is assignments to be watching all of the things. But we do. We are going to start a segment called Spin it, where we'll either touch on a scandalous topic that's going on in the world, or we're going to be reading y'all submissions when y'all send us your scandals. And we're going to give y'all a way that you can spend it, how you can make your pivot in a PR type of way. Because what you have to know about PR is the first thing you learn. NPR is some of these things we do are not morally sound. But that's not the point.
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B
They're not ethical.
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A
That's not about ethics. It's not about ethics. You want to get out of this scandal or what? Okay. You ever watched the show Scandal? Yeah. Do you want to get out of this or what? The morality has to get out the window. So we'll be doing that in conjunction with our Spin it portion. We will also be doing a lot of debriefing and recapping of current events and things that's going on, so we can give our hot takes and kind of go on so forth and so forth. So it's going to be very interactive, very energetic. This was kind of, you know, of course, our intro episode. You guys get a little bit more inside, a little bit more Mecca and Jamila lore, if you will. And so hope you guys enjoyed it.
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B
Some real lore.
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A
We gave y'all a ton of lore, actually.
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B
We gave y'all for that was crazy.
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A
We told y'all our business. Like, I wonder if those boys, if they ever hear this, will they know exactly who you're talking about?
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B
I mean, duh. Like, I feel like, honestly, especially when I be noticing of IO in our client, like, in my comments and I be talking and people will say little things. I'm like, if you went to Hampton, it's very apparent who the fuck I'm talking about.
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A
There's only 15 possible people that could be. But yeah, child.
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B
And that's why I, like, I'm really not finna say no names tribe.
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A
Yeah, hell no.
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B
We just. We just gonna kiki at homecoming.
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A
That's about it. Exactly. Well, yeah, make sure you guys are following everything unhinged and immoral on everything. And make sure y'all send your submissions, like, comment, subscribe. Yes.
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B
Don't forget to give us five stars on wherever you listen to podcasts. That really helps us. And leave a comment if it lets you do so.
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A
Tune in every Thursday on every platform. Make sure y'all are sharing all of our videos on social media. And yeah, that's it.
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B
She didn't even have to say anything. She just wanted to keep talking and that's why I set her up like that.
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A
But I did. Unhinged and Immoral is hosted by Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans.
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B
Produced by Melissa D. Monts and Diamond Imprint Productions.
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A
Post production by Coco Lawrence, production assistance by Melody D. Watson, music by Audie and Brooklyn Billionaires.