We Saved An Elderly Man's Life

Summary

Podcast Summary: Unhinged & Immoral – "We Saved An Elderly Man's Life"

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Episode Information

• Title: We Saved An Elderly Man's Life
• Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
• Production: Diamond MPrint Productions
• Release Date: April 3, 2025

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1. A Grueling Week and Community Engagement

[01:19]
The episode kicks off with hosts Mecca and Jamila expressing their exhaustion after a marathon week. They recount attending the opening of T.S. Madison’s starter home in Atlanta, an initiative spearheaded by Dominique Morgan to support black trans women exiting incarceration.

Mecca:
"Yesterday was Trans Day of Visibility, and we had the honor of getting invited to the opening of T.S. Madison's starter home here in Atlanta." [01:28]

Jamila:
"Dominique Morgan is a trailblazer in philanthropy and housing projects for the black trans community. This is her third starter home, funded by Maddie, and she’s a real ass bitch for putting the money behind it." [03:51]

The hosts highlight Dominique Morgan’s dedication, praising her efforts in creating safe spaces and emphasizing the collaborative spirit among black trans and CIS women.

2. Networking with Influential Figures

[04:27]
During the event, Jamila and Mecca had the opportunity to interact with notable personalities like Angelica Ross and T.S. Madison. Jamila shares her excitement about connecting with Dominique Morgan, who had previously engaged with her content on Drag Race, demonstrating the power of genuine community interactions.

Jamila:
"When I met Dominique, she reached out because she saw my videos about Drag Race. It was surreal to be invited and recognized like that." [05:09]

3. Personal Drama and Social Media Conflicts

[15:00]
The conversation shifts to a personal drama involving a misunderstanding on social media. Mecca recounts an incident where a woman named Becky accused her of sharing explicit content with her ex, leading to a humorous yet tense exchange between the hosts.

Mecca:
"She commented that if you saw her ex's phone, she'd find my nudes. Turns out, I had sent her explicit photos years ago, and she found them." [23:54]

Jamila:
"I definitely sent some nudes, but she misunderstood the context. It was chaotic, but we handled it with humor and support." [25:59]

The hosts discuss the importance of trust in relationships and the pitfalls of online miscommunications, using their own experiences as anecdotes.

4. Heroic Act: Saving an Elderly Man with Dementia

[42:31]
A significant portion of the episode centers around an incident where Jamila and Mecca helped an elderly man named Peter, who was experiencing severe dementia-related episodes. Their quick thinking and familial approach turned a potentially dangerous situation into a moment of care and humor.

Mecca:
"Peter tried to run away and ended up face-planting. We had to keep him calm and manage his aggression without escalating the situation." [43:07]

Jamila:
"He bit a lady's finger and tried to get up repeatedly. We stayed patient and treated him like family, preventing further panic." [43:39]

Their recounting includes vivid descriptions of Peter’s behavior and their strategies to soothe him, showcasing their compassion and experience with dementia care.

Mecca:
"Dealing with Peter was all about keeping him safe and making him feel at home. We even joked about him having dementia to lighten the mood." [44:43]

5. Spin It: Listener’s Relationship Dilemma

[48:24]
In the "Spin It" segment, a listener presents a two-year-long, stagnant relationship dilemma. The listener describes a relationship lacking progression, trust issues, and misaligned intentions, seeking advice on whether to continue or end the relationship.

Jamila:
"You need to have those important conversations early on. It’s clear you want a relationship, but he doesn’t seem to be on the same page." [54:15]

Mecca:
"If he’s not committing, it's time to move on. Don’t waste your time on someone who isn’t aligned with your relationship goals." [57:24]

The hosts advocate for clear communication and self-respect, encouraging the listener to prioritize their needs over prolonged uncertainty.

6. Audience Feedback and Engagement

[59:58]
The episode concludes with Jamila and Mecca reading and responding to listener comments and reviews from previous episodes. They express gratitude for the support and share amusing anecdotes related to their listeners' experiences, fostering a sense of community and relatability.

Jamila:
"We love all the feedback. Parker gave us five stars and shared how we crack her up so much she lost her podcast music privileges!" [60:01]

Mecca:
"Autumn loved having Meech as our first guest and suggested more old black Internet stars. We appreciate all the love and hilarity you bring us." [61:02]

7. Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts

[62:14]
Before signing off, the hosts promote their upcoming events, Patreon, and other projects, including hosting a country music festival for black and brown artists in Dallas. They encourage listeners to stay connected and continue supporting their work.

Mecca:
"We are hosting Rooted in Rhythm, a country music festival for people of color in Dallas. Stay tuned for more details!" [64:20]

Jamila:
"Thank you for all the support and even the hate. Love you all! Don’t forget to follow us on Patreon for exclusive content." [65:30]

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Notable Quotes:

• Mecca: "If you were on live, I would have hung up on you." [51:40]
• Jamila: "I definitely have sent some nudes, but she misunderstood the context. It was chaotic, but we handled it with humor and support." [25:59]
• Mecca: "We need to support each other as black women, trans or cis, without division." [09:16]
• Jamila: "Neither one of us are arguing over this nigga who neither one of us are fucking with." [32:36]
• Mecca: "It's always the man. They will leave you in the desert without water." [32:11]

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Conclusion In this episode of "Unhinged & Immoral," Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans navigate through personal challenges, community events, and moments of heroism with their characteristic humor and unfiltered honesty. From supporting black trans initiatives to managing online drama and saving an elderly man, the hosts showcase their resilience and commitment to their community. Their engaging storytelling, coupled with relatable advice and vibrant interactions, make this episode a compelling listen for those seeking both entertainment and insightful discussions on internet gossip, pop culture, and personal growth.

Transcript

[Jamila Bell]

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[Mecca]

Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged. Anymore. I am Mecca and I'm Jamila and we are exhausted.

[Jamila Bell]

It's been probably the longest 48 hours. Actually, it's been the longest week of my life, but it's just been long.

[Mecca]

I. I'm tired. Like I'm emotionally tired. And I'm also like literally physically tired. And we're not even done. After we finish recording, we have to go to a photo shoot because we're gonna shoot new promo pics and also promo pics for our upcoming live show that we're planning. So that will be fun. A little gaggy moment. So yesterday was trans day of visibility and we had the honor of getting invited to the opening of T.S. madison's starter home here in Atlanta. Ms. Dominique Morgan invited us. Dominique is like a trailblazer in her own right. Definitely a queen of philanthropy and housing and housing projects in general. This would be her third one. She does so much work for the black trans community, but like the black community as a whole because the work that they're doing. There can be starter homes for black people, not just black trans women, which, as Dominique has stated herself, is the idea as a whole. Maddie is just the first one to put the funding and the money behind it. And for that, she's a real ass bitch. But we all knew that, you know, and we got to witness the whole thing open from start to finish. How did it feel? I feel like. I feel like it's just now setting in. What happened?

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. And I feel like I'm gonna have many different, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mecca]

Cause this morning I woke because we were so on go yesterday, the entire, like, I cannot. I land. I left my house. I left Houston at 4am I was flying out of IH. I live on the south side. 45 minutes in the Uber. So I fly. I'm whatever. I get here, I land, I Uber straight to the starter home. I didn't get to come to Jameela's house. I had my bags with me. I had to change. I did everything there. We did not leave the event because after the event, we had to stay and interview and then also just fellowship, honestly.

[Jamila Bell]

Little mix and mingle.

[Mecca]

Little mix and mingle. We left about 4pm So I full 12 hours after that, an old white man tried to go to glory in front of us before we get there because so much. I'm so tired.

[Jamila Bell]

I was gonna answer your question about how I'm feeling.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila Bell]

Because.

[Mecca]

Because I had, like, so much happened yesterday. Y'all. Y'all don't understand.

[Jamila Bell]

It's been. It was a long day. I definitely. I feel like I'm gonna have many moments of reflection, like, wow, that just happened. Wow, that just happened. Wow, that just happened. I'm still like, what the hell? Like, how is that even in my life? And so it's definitely a surreal feeling. And what's great about that opportunity, outside of it being just a good opportunity for. I don't want to say community service, but servicing your community, I feel like.

[Mecca]

That'S a better way to put it in the community, as we all should be.

[Jamila Bell]

Outside of that being such a great moment and stepping into that philanthropy light, I'm also just, like, an actual fan of TS Madison.

[Mecca]

So I think it was two things happening. Being in, like, awe of Dominique and how she put all this together and really clicking, like, what is going on and what she has pieced together with the help of Maddie and all these other amazing black women.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

But then I was literally sitting next to Angelica Ross the entire time, casually.

[Jamila Bell]

I was like, it's I'm just like, this is, like, this is crazy.

[Mecca]

And you know how you trying to play it cool, like, and what do we do?

[Jamila Bell]

And to be frank, guys, I'm not cool. I am, like, inside, if you could have. It looked like a shaken soda bottle inside of me. Cause I'm like, I am sitting in front of T.S. madison, Angelica Ross, and all these other amazing people, and I'm just sitting there like, what the hell is happening? And I'm like, this is crazy. Mind you, when everything first popped out, it was a little while ago, I had made some videos about Drag Race. I had been holding all of my feelings about Drag Race, and so I made this video about Drag Race, and I ended up getting on live, just talking about Drag Race. Shout out to the Drag Race fans. Y'all know how we get. So I'm literally on live, just talking about Drag Race over the years and all the things. And Dominique's getting my live. This is before I even followed her. So she's in my life, and she says, T.S. madison wants to talk to you. Said, please don't play with me like this. This is not the time for jokes. I did not believe her. I was like, I don't believe you. I don't believe you. She was like, I'm literally gonna DM you. I swear. I swear, I swear. So then obviously, when I go to her page, I'm like, oh, you. Like, I know exactly who you are. Cause she did that dinner with T.S. madison when they were talking about trans lives and stuff like that. So I was like, oh, shit. Like, what are you talking about? This is a lot. So from. To start there. And even sometimes, you know, like, people can say things, but it sometimes doesn't iron out because, you know, people has schedules. There's always these things going on. So I didn't take it too seriously in the sense of, like, this could be just in general. Maybe she just saw my video and liked it. Cool. Like, let me just keep that. But then to follow through with the actual invitation and be like, but not only do we want y'all there, we want y'all to cover it. Oh, bitch.

[Mecca]

I was. I just want to say I'm in awe of Dominique. And that's why I keep making sure that I also say Dominique Morgan's name. Because I remember on our call, I was like, I have seen your name in articles before. I had not put two and two together because, you know, like, we're mutuals. I hadn't put it together. I just want you to know you do. You. You are that bitch. You do. You do the work.

[Jamila Bell]

You do the work.

[Mecca]

You do so much. Wow.

[Jamila Bell]

It's insane, because I think a lot of times people don't really understand the world of philanthropy, which. It's a whole other universe. A friend of mine who was actually at the space yesterday, we went to church together. That's how we met years ago. And she works in the land of philanthropy. And she also kind of. She's been bringing me into it, because what I do with birth work is within that space of community organizing as well. That's a huge portion of it. And so I've been being exposed over the last two or three years to this world of community work. And not to be shady at all, but when I see certain conversations happening online, I'm often taken aback because I'm like, if you were on the ground doing the work in real life, you would not be a stranger to these conversations. And that's where I'll leave that.

[Mecca]

Leave it right there. No, but, like, yes, Dominique, Just go ahead and Google Dominique Morgan. Everything that she's done, I made it my mission to, like, find out all of her projects so that when I met her, I could also say, like, no, but thank you, and thank you for putting this together. And something that we got to say to T.S. madison, if you watch our interview. And we got to talk about it. The first black woman to fund this project was a black CIS woman. And I think there are conversations that happen quarterly on the Internet when it comes to CIS and trans black women specifically. The most recent one was that Jim situation. If you're only on the Internet, you will think that there is a whole bunch of division. Almost knocked my tooth. Please. Cause it's the heavy one.

[Jamila Bell]

Because that'll be the next thing they talk about.

[Mecca]

You would think there's so much strife.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

We were in a space that was black trans women and black CIS women. And it was being acknowledged as we are black women, full stop. We are here to support each other, full fucking stop. We say it, and it sounds cliche at this point, but I implore everyone.

[Jamila Bell]

To go outside immediately.

[Mecca]

Please go outside the Internet conversation, the discourse. And to your point, I was gonna.

[Jamila Bell]

Say it's actual Internet conversation, because even the disdain of the word cisgender. Don't call me that. That's very Internet. Because in real life, that's not the conversation that's happening.

[Mecca]

The women.

[Jamila Bell]

Because when they got up on that podium, whether they were CIS or trans, that was never the conversation of.

[Mecca]

There's Differences.

[Jamila Bell]

And I'm this and you're that. It was never that. It was simply just and women. And we need to do this, and we need to be community.

[Mecca]

Let's take it a step further. The other CIS black women there were older black women.

[Jamila Bell]

Mm.

[Mecca]

They were aunties.

[Jamila Bell]

TTS aunties.

[Mecca]

The ones y'all claim really have their shoes.

[Jamila Bell]

Somebody ain't doing the math.

[Mecca]

I just. I just. Cause. And a lot of them. So the home specifically is for black trans women who are coming out of incarceration. So a lot of these connections were made because these black CIS women had been incarcerated with black trans women. And so got everyone has out and free and getting involved and doing the work to keep all black women from behind bars, essentially. I just felt like I was in a space and we needed that. And also, T.S. madison, I knew Ms. Mary was churchy because I used to watch the weak TV show. I know Maddie's churchy as well, but, baby, she let it. She gave us sermons yesterday. It was just sermon after sermon after sermon.

[Jamila Bell]

It was such untimely nuggets of wisdom that I'm going to definitely hold dear to me. And her, she so much so reminded me of my grandmother on my mom's side.

[Mecca]

Like, Ms. Mary.

[Jamila Bell]

Ms. Mary. Like, same name, very similar facial structure. Same, like, very similar cadence. And, like, some of the things she's saying, I was like, this is actually kind of a lot for me right now, you know?

[Mecca]

And that, you know, woo, woo. Spiritual, Christian, whatever you subscribe to, that's how God works. Because who's to say that wasn't your Miss Mary speaking through Miss Mary? Cause y'all and all of Jameela's siblings were included in this conversation. And the conversation on the car back was. That was crazy. That sounded just like grandmother, oh, my God. Blah, blah, blah. Obviously, they all needed to hear it in different ways, but it was like not being related to y'all and watching y'all react to her. I was like, I love when the ancestors just do stuff like this. This is so fun. Cause, like, I knew that they were all looking at each other because, okay, what's happening? But I was just like, I just love that. I love that level of spirituality, and I love when people are aware of that level of spirituality and can appreciate something like that and can say, woo.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. I'm like, okay, this is a. This is interesting. And then even kind of going towards. When we got a moment outside of the interview to speak to Maddie just on a. Just. Let's just chat, you know, Like, I'm glad I was able, with our platform to provide that space for my siblings to queer black people. You know, raised in the south, came up in the church. All the things.

[Mecca]

I mean, the alignment that she has with y'all was there. And I was just like, we needed to be here today. All of us needed to be here today. And get this. Yeah, T.S. madison was so welcoming. I think that also there's this thing of like trying to remain professional, obviously, but we are fans. And even me getting to be like, hey, I was a 14 year old church kid. I actually had no idea what bigdickbitch.com meant. I just thought it was funny. And I remember seeing the vine of you just. And just. I didn't even equate it to anything sexual in nature. I was just like, this is crazy. What the fuck? And she's. I mean, we have it on camera. She's like that doorway right there and she's cracking up. She's like, now, you know, you ain't supposed to know what that is. Like. It was just so funny. And she was so like pure and even down to how she was like hugging us the whole time.

[Jamila Bell]

I was gonna say she's very affectionate, but it was so. It was so natural and it was so not forced. Nothing about that entire day with anybody that we interacted with was forced, was weird, was cringy, nothing. Everything was so, just. It felt so comfortable. I felt comfortable with everybody I was talking to. And y'all know I got social anxiety down and I don't like talking to people and I get very, very anxious. But I felt at home. I felt like, no pun. Cause we were obviously at T.S. madison's house, but I genuinely felt at home and I felt at peace. And I felt like I didn't have to overly perform. I felt like I could be my. I could. I didn't feel the need to kind of like be too, too buttoned up. Obviously, I want to be professional and not in the professionalism, respectability, politics kind of way, but more so in a I take my job seriously kind of way. And I want to be sure that when this goes out, other people can see that I actually do take this so seriously and I want this to transcend further. I don't want to just take it like, oh, girl. Hey, Kiki.

[Mecca]

Ki.

[Jamila Bell]

Like I can. Kiki. And I'm going to ask you a great follow up question right after because that's the journalism in me.

[Mecca]

As it should be.

[Jamila Bell]

Per.

[Mecca]

We're going to take a break.

[Jamila Bell]

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[Mecca]

I, you know, I keep trying to make this spiritual and woo, woo. But obviously we walk into spaces and we feel touched. And this is not the first, obviously not the last space with heavy hitters that we have been welcomed into. Luckily for us, we have not been in too many spaces with other, you know, famous people, influencers, celebrities, where it's felt weird. But I've definitely been there. And this was not that. And what did the. And it was so black. I just want to say it was the blackest. If you are southern and black and churchy, please just know. It was like every, every church is choir director in one room. Cause you have to have that queer aspect of it. But it was a black, churchy, Southern.

[Jamila Bell]

And it's so the funniest part about it is if there were no isms and obious, that's how church would be. That's what church would be like.

[Mecca]

What did he say? This is what heaven looks like. This is what heaven looks like. I said, that's the funniest part about it.

[Jamila Bell]

It's like, actually this is the, this has such the potential to be what church could be. Because honestly, it was church. If we break down what church is.

[Mecca]

Other doctor Director of Naysam was a pastor. I don't know if you thought of like, okay, I can't remember the church name right now.

[Jamila Bell]

And I'm like, that's so interesting because a lot of the times when you tell super, super churchy folks that you kind of have disconnected from church, meaning, like the actual church, they get into talking, well, you know. Yeah, like, okay, well, if we break down what church is supposed supposed to be, community, uplifting, encouragement, all of those things, we did have church.

[Mecca]

We had good church yesterday.

[Jamila Bell]

We went to church yesterday. And I'm okay with that because all of the things that make up what church is supposed to be when you're talking about not just community building as far as, like being there together, but talking about how you're going to help your community and following through that's what church is really supposed to be. Nobody locked the doors. I will say that that was the only thing that was missing.

[Mecca]

We kept bringing the doorbell. We kept letting people in. The doors of the church were open.

[Jamila Bell]

But we did let you know where. You can donate. Donate to nasoninc.org make sure you go.

[Mecca]

And ts Madison has her own bar.

[Jamila Bell]

It's gonna be right at the top. You'll see T.S. madison Starter House. Click right there, and you can donate to make sure that those ladies can have free rent.

[Mecca]

Hello. And There you go, T.S. madison. And Ms. Mary was even sitting there quoting scripture. We really know for all intended parties, you know how black southern churchy people get at anything. So to see that in a transgender starter house was just like, we really are who we are. And what did Miss Mary say? Christian parents. And, I mean, I'm gonna post that when we're done with this. The most Christlike thing you can do is love your child full stop. All you can do is train up a child in the way that they should go, and however they can't remember the exact words, and all they would follow the Lord. I know what I'm trying to say. I know what it means. I know what it means. I know what they're trying to get at.

[Jamila Bell]

For God so loves the world, whatever he is, if he gave his only begotten.

[Mecca]

It'S only begot.

[Jamila Bell]

Begotten.

[Mecca]

But, yes, kicking your child out and putting them in the street is not Christlike and that at all. And it was when she said that, she said, that's not of Christ.

[Jamila Bell]

Y'all didn't even put out uncles for touching kids. But you. Oh.

[Mecca]

I said, oh, Miss Mary, it's gagging. It's gaggy, right? Like, she was putting the word out there. And she said it several times so I could tell it was on her spirit. And she's like, you know, and she.

[Jamila Bell]

Kept saying, is this camera on?

[Mecca]

Is this camera on to the Christian parents?

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, she meant that. She meant it from the depth of her soul. And I said, yes, ma'am.

[Mecca]

I said, yes, ma'am. Keep getting that out, because so many black churchy people need to hear this. Putting your child out on the street is not the answer. And she was also transparent, which I respect, because people of a certain age. And she said this. She said, and can y'all be gentler with your parents? We're mourning the loss of the child that we brought into the world. We understand we're getting a new one, but, you know, let us mourn. But let's all go through that cycle together, and let's go through that cycle with love. And let's not put our children on the street because our children are a reflection of us and we are all a reflection of God. If you put your child on the street, what does that say about you all as a parent you can do is raise a child up correctly. They're still that same person that you raised. And if you instilled in them proper values and proper love of God, they will never lose it. I said, my God, damn, she ate that dinner.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm like, that was so. It was just so everything. And it's interesting because I'm always really frustrated with this idea that queer people are innately perverted. That's a sentiment that happens a lot. And it frustrates me so bad. Obviously, because my siblings are queer, but because my siblings are queer, I have been brought into a lot of queer spaces. I'm surrounded by queer people all the time. And so obviously I have that insight to know that not more perverted than us straight folks. Hmm.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

If you a freak, I'm a freak. We all freaks, but they're not innately that because of their queerness. You know what I'm saying? I think that's the part that frustrates me so much. And for you to have that ideology that just lets me know you have never been in community with queer people. You've never been in community with queer people at all. Because you would know that the perversion of what you believe to be sexual deviance is really just that of ts.

[Mecca]

Madison actually brought this up during our interview. She touched on that.

[Jamila Bell]

Which you can go watch it on our YouTube channel. It is currently live, it is up and posted, so.

[Mecca]

But she did touch on that feeling that guilt for feeling like she had.

[Jamila Bell]

Did something before she perverted other people for bringing them into queerness. And it's like, wow, I never even thought about that outlook of being a queer person. Because of course you feel this guilt and shame that comes from the church and all these other things. But feeling that guilt that you cause this other people. That's such an interesting insights, like, yeah, that's why y'all should start shutting the fuck up a concept. Have you ever thought about shutting the fuck up?

[Mecca]

Have any of us thought about shutting the fuck up? How about we start right now? Speaking of freaks.

[Jamila Bell]

Noah's little freak.

[Mecca]

In Hollywood, you know, comments have been made that we want to be famous, which is true. It's not incorrect. It's not wrong at all but a level has to. An acknowledgeable level of at least notoriety. Scandal has to be acknowledged when the girls are coming out. Admitting that we've shared a man and.

[Jamila Bell]

You know, who hasn't been down that road before Again.

[Mecca]

So the thing is, haven't we all shared a man at one point in time? Would you be able to beat that information out of me?

[Jamila Bell]

Well, no.

[Mecca]

Well, no. But I do see if there was someone worth a damn mentioning, a name drop possibly. And that happened to me this weekend. Shout out to Becky. She seems like a lovely lady. I didn't think it was done in malice or in bad faith. I think it was just an opportunity. And she offhandedly said something, didn't think it would even get noticed. But she did let the world know that at one point. Well, the comment was made. I can't stand to look at Mecca. She's so bright, it hurts my eyes or something along that, you know. And Mickey commented, imagine if you found her nudes in your ex's phone.

[Jamila Bell]

And.

[Mecca]

And from there, let me tell you.

[Jamila Bell]

How we have a schedule, how Mecca brought this to our attention. She sends the video. We're like, obviously, we're all thinking, oh, my gosh, like, why would she say that? And here goes Mecca. Y'all want to know the gag? I definitely sent that young man nudes. I definitely fucked that man. The scream I scrumped. I said, you know, wow.

[Mecca]

And as I stated, I never knew about making, you know, she's a real.

[Jamila Bell]

Ass bitch for not exposing your nudes. Some bitches are really mean.

[Mecca]

So it's been two years she said that. And she also made it clear her beef wasn't with me, obviously. Contextually, the space and time that we're in and the climate on TikTok right now, her saying it didn't help what's happening. But I didn't think she said it to, like, it didn't give what she.

[Jamila Bell]

Was trying to say.

[Mecca]

And she made it clear. She was like, I didn't think anyone would really see my comment because she commented underneath a comment. And then she explained that, like, she went through his phone, found my nudes. She followed me on TikTok. He knew that. And so when I would come up, she had blocked me because it was triggering her, which. That's some shit. That makes sense.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

No, no, that makes perfect sense. Like, yeah, you make sense, sister. I mean, I get it. Like, so that was like, oh, when you contextually say it like that, this makes sense. But obviously, as a girl now I'm Thinking about the timeline all goddamn weekend. Because I'm like, okay. Because she. She made a very video in which. And I like everyone else was like, that's why. I mean, I would have joked anyway because it's me. But I definitely was like, oh, like some. Some bitch said I was sexting her man. Okay. Bitch. I went. I went to her page and saw that bio and saw some locations.

[Jamila Bell]

And.

[Mecca]

Then watched her video. And that's when I sent to the group chat. So the gag is I absolutely fucked that up.

[Jamila Bell]

It was me.

[Mecca]

It was me. So.

[Jamila Bell]

Well, I wanted.

[Mecca]

I want to talk about it. I think this is a really fun, like, not a fun, but, you know.

[Jamila Bell]

Question is, was it good?

[Mecca]

Nikki said she's over it.

[Jamila Bell]

That girl's man no longer triggered.

[Mecca]

Well, I didn't know. She was like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was one of my favorite niggas at the time. I can't lie.

[Jamila Bell]

So sorry to that girl. No, but she would know. Can you Peter eater? Yeah. And she lost her favorite eater probably. And that's horrible, you know.

[Mecca]

No.

[Jamila Bell]

Can you imagine like, like going through it with your nigga, right? And you just are trying to escape from life and you're going on TikTok like, oh, I love this creator. And then you go through that nigga's phone and he's fucking your favorite creator.

[Mecca]

That's gag word. Like, that's.

[Jamila Bell]

He's not.

[Mecca]

Shit, he's. But he's not. Okay. So also so much context. Again, I was thinking about Dming Meki. We've interacted, you know, in the comments and stuff. And again, I publicly, I said, I'm so sorry he did that to you. Because the context here is he was my out of town. Jameela knows who it is. Like, Jameela also remembers this era. He was one of my out of town. You feel me's one of my favorite niggas. We talk on the phone. We all this stuff when we're in the same vicinity. We try and link like it was that thing. Like we were both single. As far as I knew. As far as I knew.

[Jamila Bell]

As you knew, darling. However, you were incorrect.

[Mecca]

Apparently one of us was not single.

[Jamila Bell]

Why do men lie about that?

[Mecca]

I mean, he didn't even lie. The thing is, he did lie, but he didn't. I. We would tell each other we were going on dates. So again, because none of we weren't interested in like a long distance relationship. So that opened the door for more honesty in regards to our open. How we're fucking with Other people, I believe. I remember when he started fucking with Mickey because he said, I've gone on a couple dates with this girl. I really like her. I asked. I remember being like, oh, cool, you gonna cuff her? And he was very like, nah, you know, I don't want no relationship. A goddamn lie. Goddamn lie.

[Jamila Bell]

The purr boy, he was trying to.

[Mecca]

Keep that string open because, like, what I was. This went on for two years. So if my timeline's correct, I think I was already doing what we were.

[Jamila Bell]

Doing for the years we were doing it.

[Mecca]

He met Mickey, he started liking Mickey. At the point in which he said, I like this girl I'm going on dates with, he had already made her his girlfriend. I think that was the case. Oh, for sure. They were already girlfriend, boyfriend, for sure.

[Jamila Bell]

He was checking the temperature to see if you gave a fuck and to see if you were gonna still like Kiki with him. I think that's why he did it like that.

[Mecca]

No, And I'm gonna tell you why. And this is actually why I ended up stopped talking to him, because a couple months later, he text me, I'm just letting you know that I have a girlfriend now, and I'm really trying to respect my relationship and all this type of stuff. I believe that's when Nikki found those text messages. And mind you, even without the context of Nikki, Jameela, this is. I mean, Nikki, not Nikki. Sorry, girl. Even without this context of this happening two years later, I read that text message and said, you've been had this bitch. And you probably got caught up. And now you're making the public declaration.

[Jamila Bell]

So that you can cover your ass.

[Mecca]

So that you can cover your ass and show her this.

[Jamila Bell]

The old, old.

[Mecca]

I never responded to that text message. Yeah, like, to the point. And after that, I still. Transparency. I have him on Instagram. He likes to pic from time to time. I like to pick from time to time. But after that, I cut communication because at that point, I had been fucking with him for two years. It was clear to me you got caught up, because this text message isn't even aligned with who you are. This. You've never spoken to me like this. You don't even talk in this cadence. This is a professional corporate text message for you to be able to show your girlfriend.

[Jamila Bell]

And I knew that he had to get in line.

[Mecca]

I knew that.

[Jamila Bell]

Yes.

[Mecca]

And for this to come out two.

[Jamila Bell]

Years later in the midst of drama is.

[Mecca]

But it's a vindication I need. Because the thing is, so often, as women, we don't trust that gut. We have all the evidence in front of us. This nigga has spoken to you in a certain text type tone, tenor for two years.

[Jamila Bell]

All of a sudden, in the moment. Listen to me, ladies, listen to me. If you don't hear nothing else, if you don't hear nothing else, the moment that man talks to you differently, cut it off.

[Mecca]

It's a bitch. It's a bitch. Cut it off. It's a woman. It's a woman. And what I do, I never talk, right? I never even gave. And I think I've told you. I told. I mean, you know this. I didn't give him the satisfaction of even responding to that text message. I didn't. Now, I didn't take him off my Instagram, but I did block his number. Like, all this. All this stuff he has since temp checked, and I haven't given because I just felt like that was stupid. Especially considering you were not my man. And for this to come out two years later, I was right. It made this whole weekend worth. And I ain't even gonna lie to you. And if everyone found out I was a freak and sending nudes, just know he was sending nut videos, too. Cause that's the type of bitch I am.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, how do you request those? What do you say? Cause you know, you said, very raw. Mecca is a dominatrix. Y'all know this.

[Mecca]

Mickey, you read the text message, girl.

[Jamila Bell]

How I say this is my weekly declaration to let you guys know Mecca is, in fact, a dominatrix. She nut video.

[Mecca]

Yeah, go ahead, send that to me, daddy.

[Jamila Bell]

Yikes. I hate that for her, but, no, it happens to the best of us.

[Mecca]

It happens to the best of us. I think that, you know, she could have handled it differently, too. She could have got weird and all this stuff. I think that, you know, I'm really glad that publicly, for shit show, me and her were able to like, oh, girl, he ain't shit. He ain't shit, girl, he ain't shit.

[Jamila Bell]

It's always the man.

[Mecca]

It's always the man. They will leave you in the desert without water.

[Jamila Bell]

Boo, boo boys.

[Mecca]

Boo boys. They ain't worth a damn. Um, I just. I'm glad that we could do that at least, because I think so often in these situations where clearly the man is the problem, the women end up arguing. Even in situations where it's old, like, neither one of us have fucked with him in two years, this could have easily turned into us arguing over this nigga who neither one of us are fucking with.

[Jamila Bell]

And I would have never Allowed that. I mean, I would have been like, bitch, delete this. The fuck?

[Mecca]

He was my favorite nigga. He was one of my best eaters, though.

[Jamila Bell]

What you will never catch. You will never catch me arguing over anything.

[Mecca]

Don't believe in that. So when they came into the comments, even trying to make it that I said, you know what? I will never do this.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Because I didn't even know who it was at first. And I was like, but I know men. So if she's saying I'm sexting her man. Girl, what your man name is? Cause I know how.

[Jamila Bell]

Probably could have.

[Mecca]

Cause I probably could have been sexually. But I ain't know about you. Cause I'm a. I be sex, girl. I'm gonna be 29 in two weeks. I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about, Bitch, sometimes you gotta. Sometimes you gotta pop your leg in the air and pop a pic and send it to him. The fuck. Fuck y'all. I don't give a damn.

[Jamila Bell]

Make me be bent over Spin bread eagle.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Everybody want to be a freak Till it's time to be a freak. Hello. Everybody want to talk that Till it's time to talk that the record girlies do it all the time. Talk that freaky ass then, oh, I.

[Jamila Bell]

Only I only I.

[Mecca]

That's why. Naked, only real. That's why they hate her. That means a different conversation for a different day. The.

[Jamila Bell]

We're gonna take a break, and. And we're back.

[Mecca]

I would never let no one make me feel bad about my sexuality. How I. As long as it's between two consenting adults, it is what it is.

[Jamila Bell]

Well, actually, I do have a caveat. I do kink shame, however.

[Mecca]

Oh, yeah, Okay.

[Jamila Bell]

I know that.

[Mecca]

No, no, no. Some of the kinks are bad.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm not in the community. Why do you pretend that just allows everything? No, Some things need to be shamed.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Why are you dressing up like a child?

[Jamila Bell]

Strange.

[Mecca]

It's strange. You're not gonna convince me. Other. Why are you purposely putting on children's clothes and underwear and bullshit? Very strange.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm questioning you, and I do think it's strange and weird.

[Mecca]

I think that you're not a freak. You would take it. Sick. Yeah. You would do if it. You would do it if you could.

[Jamila Bell]

I don't like that Something ain't right in the buttermilk.

[Mecca]

It's not.

[Jamila Bell]

I don't like that. But most. I feel like the most regular kinks are kind of like, yeah, okay.

[Mecca]

Yeah. No, if you like a little it's just like, oh, damn. Freaky now, if you like all them spikes and shit.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

That's rooted in trauma.

[Jamila Bell]

Well, I'm not.

[Mecca]

I'm not.

[Jamila Bell]

I don't want that. I don't want pain.

[Mecca]

I don't want, like, the pleasure pain. I'm not into that. I am into the shit talking. Obviously, I like sexual tension.

[Jamila Bell]

I did slap a boy before, though.

[Mecca]

I have slapped and been slapped.

[Jamila Bell]

It was kind of fun. I'm like, okay, now don't slap me. I was taken aback. I was like, be taken out of character. I would be like, hey, why'd you do that? I'm breaking the fourth wall.

[Mecca]

Hey, wait, Jim.

[Jamila Bell]

I didn't like that you just slapped me. Don't do that again. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Please don't ever do that.

[Mecca]

I was caught off guard.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. I mean, I betch.

[Mecca]

Has a man ever, like, called you a bitch or a slut while fucking? No.

[Jamila Bell]

And I don't play.

[Mecca]

I don't like. I don't like.

[Jamila Bell]

I don't like that at all.

[Mecca]

That seems like.

[Jamila Bell]

Don't degrade me. I don't like that.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm a lady.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Don't call me that.

[Mecca]

Like, the whole screaming. Like.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, I get it. Like, for some girls, I suppose. Not me.

[Mecca]

Yeah. No, I'm not a sluggish. Someone who will be like, that hurts. That's my cervix.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Please stop.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, if I.

[Mecca]

If.

[Jamila Bell]

If I was having sex and he was just like, ah, you like that, bitch? I would be like, wait. I would literally be like, hey, hey, don't say that. I would be so turned off like that.

[Mecca]

Just like, what's the freakiest thing you think that you like.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm not saying that on here.

[Mecca]

Oh, really? It's freaky. It's not that.

[Jamila Bell]

It's.

[Mecca]

It's so freaky. She don't want to say it.

[Jamila Bell]

It's just I am a little bit of a prude. Okay, When I say a prude.

[Mecca]

Yeah, you are. No. Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

We can have this conversation offline.

[Mecca]

Yeah, I know. I mean, I've already had my. Everybody that knows.

[Jamila Bell]

I just don't be wanting people to know what I do. Like, to the streets, to the world. I don't even participate in that. Y'all. These are all just hypotheticals.

[Mecca]

I was literally cracking up. I said, if I. I'm glad that this happened to me because I have a certain personality type. I do see how if this would happen to someone like you, this might have been detrimental.

[Jamila Bell]

I wouldn't have Cared. I just wouldn't respond.

[Mecca]

I wouldn't have cared.

[Jamila Bell]

But if that girl said like, oh, like imagine. I would have been like, again, like, which nigga was it?

[Mecca]

Cause well, yeah, but you know, there is an element of. She made it clear she saw my pictures.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, no, I would have been disturbed. Yeah. Because I don't want my pictures out there. Because I would be thinking, oh my gosh, what if these pictures get into the wrong hands? And now my.

[Mecca]

I would only have to sue for the revenge porn off the strength of principle, not off the strength of being embarrassed.

[Jamila Bell]

I feel like I'm a work of art. I think it would be embarrassment. I just, I don't want my.

[Mecca]

Yeah, no, but that's valid. That's what I'm saying.

[Jamila Bell]

I don't want my Chi Chi's on the Internet.

[Mecca]

What I'm saying is someone like me, this happened to someone like me was like, yeah. Cause that's how I am. But I can absolutely understand because even still, like thinking about it, I was like, damn, that means she's seen my nudes. Because I mean, she's talked. She's like. I went through the conversation and they.

[Jamila Bell]

Were like full nudes, not like a booty pic. Like they were like. He was like spreading. He was like spreading your girl open. You was like, what was she like? What were you doing? Like actually take walk us there since you're still not prude. Paint the picture. Everybody wants to see. Everybody wants to see. Lock in Lock in Mecca is going to describe her puss.

[Mecca]

What? What that nigga say Kamala look like a light skinned woman with a dark booty hol. A little hyperpigmentation. It's not okay. That's what happens when you're full black. So when you got two black parents.

[Jamila Bell]

So you're sending booty hole pictures because let. Cause that's what I. Is that what was happening?

[Mecca]

I'm not sending booty hole pictures.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay.

[Mecca]

Yeah, it wasn't a booty hole. There was an assortment and what from what again, I know what I do. Okay, so from what she described, I know what she was seeing. What was she seeing?

[Jamila Bell]

Are you a prop the camera up nude type of bitch or are you.

[Mecca]

A. I'm an all type of nude. So she was seeing in the lingerie. Lingerie regular ass shot. She might have seen some bent over. You know what I'm saying? A little lift it up. It's heavy.

[Jamila Bell]

Opening it up and spreading it. Or just you. Whatever. Peekaboo out you.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say whatever pink was Pink was peekabooing out. She seen that. That's why I said, oh, you seen the pink? Cause I definitely like to hit a from time to time. And, you know, you could see. You could see the puss from the back. Yeah, yeah. That part is. If you come to FEMI aesthetics, we can also bleach your pussy if you struggle with hyperpigmentation. Shameless pluck. We're located in Houston, Texas, in Sharpstown.

[Jamila Bell]

Make me send in black and white nudes.

[Mecca]

I have done that. I like to be an artist sometimes.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm such a regular. I actually don't send nudes. Actually, now that I think about it.

[Mecca]

And you know what?

[Jamila Bell]

I send booty pics, though. Yeah.

[Mecca]

But you know what's also crazy? You know this the reason she knew it was me. Cause my face be in them.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, my God. What kind of fucking crazy bitch are you?

[Mecca]

I be having my glasses on.

[Jamila Bell]

Full face is crazy. Like it. Okay, so I definitely have sent nudes before.

[Mecca]

This is the real, but this is the me.

[Jamila Bell]

It's not something I do often because it's like. And like, when I say nude, I mean, like, literally, like, you're naked, you know, because I feel like if you're seeing a booty pic, if you have, like, underwear on or hands, that's not really a nude. It's just like, it's a sexually sexual.

[Mecca]

I said nose too.

[Jamila Bell]

It's a sexual pick. So for those. If my face is in it, whatever. But like, a nude with your face in it is sex.

[Mecca]

He was sending the news with his face in it too.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, he's crazy too. Like, that's crazy.

[Mecca]

And videos.

[Jamila Bell]

Cause just like, you don't know these people. Like, not saying you don't know these people, but, like, what if they decide to just say, drop that shit?

[Mecca]

Well, I think the piece here, you have to have a level of trust. People can always switch up. But again, he was also sending shit with his face in it as well. So it wasn't like a.

[Jamila Bell]

So you felt like, okay, I felt, trust me, I trust you type shit.

[Mecca]

No, I felt. I felt. I felt if. If you ever do that, I also.

[Jamila Bell]

I'll just drop yours type shit. We're bar for bar here.

[Mecca]

Um, so, yeah, it wasn't just a one. And that's the other thing. I mean, that's why I said that's why when it was coming to me, I said, I can definitely see why you had to block me. I can see why you had to block me, because that is crazy. That's Crazy as fuck. And he's also crazy. You know, he's crazy. The fact that he would sit there and, like, engage and just be. He was like, I would be watching her tiktoks in front of him. He's psychotic. A little bit. A lot of it.

[Jamila Bell]

He was probably getting hard doing that.

[Mecca]

Probably was getting off on that, like. Cause, you know, that dominant.

[Jamila Bell]

He was probably thinking, like, ugh.

[Mecca]

He's also a dominant type of guy. So I feel like probably just even knowing that, like, oh, yeah. Sick n. Sick nigga. Oh, we have one more thing to tell you guys. We saved an elderly man yesterday.

[Jamila Bell]

We did. And I will never forget him.

[Mecca]

Peter, I hope you're okay. He had a little miniature spell. He tried to run away from his wife, face planted. The biggest part of this story is when Peter untied that man, that other good Samaritan shoe, and kicked him.

[Jamila Bell]

Kicked the fuck out of him in his shin. He said, bam.

[Mecca]

Ah, goddamn.

[Jamila Bell]

He was hopping around.

[Mecca]

He said, fuck. He said, he's not that bad. He's. That was good.

[Jamila Bell]

Then he bit the Hispanic lady, Bit her finger. He said, peter. Everybody was like, stop.

[Mecca]

And by that point, we was all family by the time. Stop it, Peter. Stop it, Peter.

[Jamila Bell]

Lamb, whatever. He grabbed Jelani. Ankle child. Jelani was almost up out of there.

[Mecca]

It got to the point we was all like, peter, stop.

[Jamila Bell]

He kept trying to get. He'd be laying down. The Hispanic lady was massaging his head. Then he would try to get up.

[Mecca]

Everybody stop.

[Jamila Bell]

Peter, sit down. Sit down now.

[Mecca]

Sit down.

[Jamila Bell]

We had got so comfortable so quick. And that's how you can tell, like, we've been around the block or two. Just with just experience.

[Mecca]

Specifically, mind you, this is how experienced we are with dementia. We even. I thought he was just falling out when we got up on him. And it was when he tried to get up and lost his balance. I said, this is dementia.

[Jamila Bell]

And I seen them eyes.

[Mecca]

I said, oh, that's dementia.

[Jamila Bell]

He didn't know what the fuck was going on. I said, oh, that's dementia.

[Mecca]

That's dementia.

[Jamila Bell]

That's that mention.

[Mecca]

Sit him down. What'd you ask? Say I'm surprised he ain't wet himself. Cause that's what I was waiting for.

[Jamila Bell]

I was just waiting for him to shit or piss himself. Yeah, I really was.

[Mecca]

But that's because that's what happens when the spells start happening and they start falling out and they can't. They usually.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, they're not. They're not competent in that way sometimes. So they just kind of Be let loose.

[Mecca]

Listen, it's happened with my dad several times. And like I said in the TikTok video, My dad's not at that violent stage, but just that. Get off me. Sit down, Freddie. Yeah, and see my dad. Don't kick him. Bite. He gets mad in a different way. He be like, nigga, fuck you. Hey, I'm the motherfucking daddy, nigga. Shut the fuck up, nigga. Man, Darrington, get out my goddamn face. You a junior, nigga. You Fred Junior. Nigga. Darrington Evans Junior, nigga.

[Jamila Bell]

You mark ass, nigga.

[Mecca]

The fuck, nigga. Mo, get up off me Mecca acting like your goddamn mother.

[Jamila Bell]

The Cali just came out of you like a spirit, bitch. I'm scared.

[Mecca]

Just imagine the stint. Peter is my dad. And imagine all that. And it be like, shut the fuck up. Damn. Sit down, dad. God damn. And you know Darrington's at that stage. Cause he's the man who can really, like, yoke him up. He be arguing, but Darrington is still Darrington. He's also touching the brain. So he be arguing. He like, nigga, I'm finna let you fall, nigga. I'm gonna let you fall, nigga, you pissed me off, nigga. It just. It's just. It's like yesterday was so funny.

[Jamila Bell]

The two most chaotic people.

[Mecca]

And when they be driving, when my dad be having. When Darington be picking my dad up for his doctor's appointments, and my dad be trying to, like, act like that. And my. My Daring will call like, man, get your fucking dad, bro. Get your fucking dad, bro. Your dad's tripping. I'm finna let him go and get out on the side. He tried to get out. Where he finna go? I don't fucking know. This nigga's tripping.

[Jamila Bell]

Why she better put. He better put him in the. In the back seat like.

[Mecca]

Like they did Peter. Shut up in his head. Daring do that. Next time, put him in the backseat.

[Jamila Bell]

Put his ass in the backseat with the child lock. He ain't going no damn.

[Mecca]

Well, I was trying to. If Peter had a depend on. Cause at this point, we gotta. We have to put the depend on my dad. Cause he'll have an accident in the car. So it's like, okay, Peter. Okay, nigga. I'm the motherfucking daddy, nigga.

[Jamila Bell]

Y'all.

[Mecca]

My kids talking to me like this. Fuck y'all.

[Jamila Bell]

I hope Peter's doing okay. I hope his wife is okay. She was clearly so irritated and stressed. Cause it's like you could tell she's been around the block. A couple we just left the hospital. She said, yeah, he does get aggressive.

[Mecca]

It was.

[Jamila Bell]

She looked at us like, well, yeah, he does.

[Mecca]

Yeah. I said, oh. Peter said, oh, Peter, ninja parent coding.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm like, aw.

[Mecca]

I said, ugh. The fact that we be going through this in black people is crazy. Cause she was like, yeah. I said, this be Monty. I'm not arguing with you. Freddie, sit your dumb ass down. And she, you know, she oldest and likes to sit your monkey ass down. Freddie, sit your monkey ass down. Ain't nobody finna argue with you, nigga. So you know my dad's nickname is Snow in the street. Cause Freddie Snow, he white as snow. But now they be like, think you still Freddie Snow? You Freddie Snow.

[Jamila Bell]

What the fuck? Damn, they ate that.

[Mecca]

I be cracking up. Because at the end of the day, this is still like brothers and sisters arguing. Shit actually don't matter. So the way they be going on each. When I started calling him Freddie slo.

[Jamila Bell]

I said, peter, if you're out there, Peter Slow. If your daddy named Peter, he got dementia. He live around Tucker. Please let us know he all right.

[Mecca]

And where'd the EMTs end up going after they got off work?

[Jamila Bell]

Cause they was trying to come with us. I said, nigga, you heard me say Chili the other three times you asked.

[Mecca]

They asked us five times. Where y'all finna gotta go after this.

[Jamila Bell]

Nigga after a fucking medical emergency to eat?

[Mecca]

Y'all need to go handle Peter. But we gonna be at Chili's drinking them triple dippers and the margaritas. The margarita of the month is a lemon drop. I'll be there trying to drop something on you. Ow. That's why that bitch be sexting.

[Jamila Bell]

Let's spin it, child.

[Mecca]

We're gonna take a break. And we're back.

[Jamila Bell]

All right, y'all. Y'all ready to get into Spin It? The title is Disclaimer Dumb Bitch Alert. You have my attention.

[Mecca]

Wait, you have to do. Welcome to our segment, Spin It. This is where you send your lowdown gutter snipe situations, and Jamila and I will try and help you put a little PR spin on it. It might be a little ghetto. It might be unhinged. It might be immoral. Now, full disclaimer. Jamila and I are not PR professionals, but we did study communications in college, and we do love the hustle and the bustle. So back to Janela.

[Jamila Bell]

I love the pot, and I swear I want to be the third. The way I be talking on my phone like we on Facetime. Lol let me get to it. Onto the story. I, 27, female, have been with my man, 26 male for two years. Emphasis on the man, not boyfriend. We met on a dating App beginning of 2023 and have been stuck ever since. We're long distance. In March of 2023, he asked me to be his girlfriend, which he really didn't. He just said he does. He wanted to be in a relationship with me and I shared the same sense, but we had only FaceTime. Didn't know a lot about each other other each other in my eyes to get into a relationship yet again. But I told him I wanted the same. He was bringing up moving and all these things and I'm like, babe, slow down. In my head I'm like, if we were to stop talking today, you'd just be another I texted second disclaimer. I never really stopped being single. I kept my outfits open. But I hate meeting you guys. So it's like. It's not like I had 20 niggas lined up. Also, the way you lack so many punctuations. I'm sorry, it's like a big one. It's confusing me. Also, I had been back on the app in June of 2023. I sent him a will you be my girlfriend? That was cute as a weak week and his response was I asked you once, I'm never asking again. You rejected me. That had me in my field. So my delusional self made a fake change account to see if he match and he did. Lmao. Made plans to link the girl and all. Mind you, I was coming the same weekend. When I confronted, he swore he knew it was me, the catfish. And that's why he kept it up. But. But he thought it was. He thought it was his ex doing it. Then we stopped speaking for a month. Password Today. We're still not technically in a relationship. I do talk to other guys and don't tell him obviously as well. And I do feel bad, but I'm like too old to be dealing with someone who can't ask relationship. But also, anytime I meet a new guy, I get the ick and they're just not him. Do I bring up the whole girlfriend thing again? But then that sounds like begging or do I? We've seen each other about four times at this point. He also doesn't have a job with PTO to be able to apply to me. And when I do see him, it's not dates. It's just chilling at his apartment.

[Mecca]

Girl, drop that nigga.

[Jamila Bell]

You sent all this and ended it.

[Mecca]

With, we don't go on dates.

[Jamila Bell]

You said nothing to convince me me that, number one, you like this for real or that he's referring.

[Mecca]

I don't think y'all like each other. I think y'all need to leave each other alone.

[Jamila Bell]

If we were on live, I would have hung up on you. Get out of my face with this bullshit. You know good and goddamn well you don't like him. What you mean you. First of all, first of all, first of all, I don't know how you feel about this, but this is just me.

[Mecca]

How long were they talking before he first time?

[Jamila Bell]

I think she said two years.

[Mecca]

No, before they. The first time he asked to be the girlfriend.

[Jamila Bell]

Two years.

[Mecca]

It took him two years to ask me to be his girlfriend.

[Jamila Bell]

And so what I was going to say is I am not necessarily. I feel like engagements and getting in a relationship are similar in the fact that, like, you should probably have that conversation before you just. 27, you know, like, meaning, like, you. You need to have conversations before you just, like, ask, right? Like, for example, if you know you're in a relationship with somebody and you want to get married before you ask, maybe you should have that conversation. Like, hey, like, how do you feel about marriage? Do you want to get married to me? Like, before I. Da, da, da, da. And same with getting in a relationship. Like, if you guys are talking, like, I feel like you should have the conversation. Like, hey, like, I really like you. I feel like I would want to get in a relationship with you at some point. How do you feel about that and have that conversation? That way you're not shocked and awed. That's number one. Number two, the whole he did, but didn't. I'm like, I'm confused. Like, did he or did he not? And so if he did, were y'all in a fucking relationship? Because it never sound like y'all were. It sound like y'all was just talking shit on the phone.

[Mecca]

Yeah, it sounded like n do that thing where they bring up, well, is you. They say, yeah, something about. They make it seem like, oh, yeah, you my girlfriend. And then you're like, oh, am I? And they make it seem like that's asking. That's not asking. So I'm not gonna even assume or act like that's asking. That's number one. I'm one of the types that I need a grand gesture. I'm one of them.

[Jamila Bell]

What you want? You want, like, the hotel room type shit?

[Mecca]

You know, it don't have to. When I say grand gesture. I just mean effort, I think, to your point. And 27 is really when this starts. I remember making tiktoks in real time. Like going on dates is different. Now the guys are saying, what. What do I want for marriage? Do I see myself married in five years, two years? Last year they were talking about they weren't interested in shit. 27 is a shifting point where I just don't. You're wasting time if you just going with the flow and chilling. Cool. But make that known. If that's not what you're interested in though, you need to make that clear. Hey, I am dating to at least get in a relationship. I am dating for marriage. I am dating for a long term relationship. So when I. At this point, I don't talk to no one who I don't see myself being married to. I. That's not what it's looking like for me.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, so every guy you talk to, you feel like you could see yourself getting married to them.

[Mecca]

Yeah, I think that's important. Or having a baby. Like, I think it's important not to fuck on niggas who I don't think wouldn't be good fathers because.

[Jamila Bell]

Because you want that.

[Mecca]

Not because I want it, but because life happens. I live in Texas. I do have the means to take my ass home to California and make shit shake if I need to, which is what I would most likely do. But I also think it's important to think, like, why would I wanna fuck on a nigga who I don't think is gonna take care of a child? I mean, I'm just at that age and the niggas I talk to, I think that the way that they treat me is a reflection of how they would treat your child. So. Well, we know that's very iffy, but for as much as you can do preventative work, I think that's the best preventative work you can do. Because if you can't ask him for $20 now, you won't be able to ask him for $20 for shitshow when you have a baby. You get what I'm saying? You're picking up what I'm putting down. So I'm just like, I just. I'm just not talking to niggas who.

[Jamila Bell]

It's like, that's what I'm saying. So you. Are you dating to marry is my question. Then that's what it sounds like.

[Mecca]

Yeah. I feel like I'm not interested in getting married anytime soon, but I'm not dating anyone who. It's like I wouldn't marry you. I'm past that. I'm past that. I'm past that for sure.

[Jamila Bell]

Just dating niggas.

[Mecca]

Just dating niggas just for niggas. Jaz and I were talking about this last night. I was like, I just don't even see dating like that anymore. I think that. And having gone through, like, this metamorphosis in public on TikTok, I definitely had the. I want the fairy tale. I want to be in love. I want to. And then, I don't know. I woke up, I turned 28. I woke up, I said, there's more to life. And the things that I seek to be fulfilled by are not necessarily the relationship and just cliche, as it always happens. Here come all the n professing their love. When I decide I don't care about that no more. So I just. I do want to be in a relationship. I do want to be married. I'm not interested in being married for probably years at this point, because I know, like, the commitment that requires. And right now, my commitment is to my business, is to our businesses, is to what we're doing. So if that calls, I'm gonna get up and go, you know? So I say all that to say I'm not dating anyone I wouldn't marry, but I'm not interested in getting married.

[Jamila Bell]

I hope that makes sense to those to. To whom it may concern. I suppose.

[Mecca]

I hope you guys get what I'm saying.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. As far as the miss lady, I don't really have a spin it for you because you don't need to spend anything. You just need to, like, stop talking to him because it just doesn't seem you're interested, and it seems like y'all are wasting each other's time because it's clear that you want to be in a relationship, but it's not clear that you want to be in a relationship with him per se.

[Mecca]

And I think if you have a question, I think if it's I don't want to be in a relationship with him, you do. Better to just leave it where it's at. Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Because if he was so great of a guy, you would want to be in a relationship with him.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, it's. We're not.

[Mecca]

We're not that he doesn't sound like a great guy, just given what you've said, but it seems like, you know, that if you.

[Jamila Bell]

If you knew for fuck sure he was lying about that because he. You knew he was lying about that hinge.

[Mecca]

He did not think that Hinge was Urs.

[Jamila Bell]

That's so stupid.

[Mecca]

That's why we're stupid.

[Jamila Bell]

That's the dumbest fucking lie you could have ever said. He would have been better off just saying, like, I mean, I was confused.

[Mecca]

At where we were.

[Jamila Bell]

I would still just keep my options open.

[Mecca]

And I would have been like, anything like that.

[Jamila Bell]

I don't know why men think that you have to coddle women. Like, if you just say what it was like, oh, okay, like. But also, no shade, sister. I would have never did that. I would have never created a fake hinge account just to see if the nigga was.

[Mecca]

That's a lot, girl. But, you know, you have to get that reassurance.

[Jamila Bell]

And sometimes you just gotta ask.

[Mecca]

Sometimes the things, the reassurances that love and relationship or promise that relationship makes us do. I can't.

[Jamila Bell]

Let me tell you how crazy that is. You were hoping to get him on your hinge, you understand? Like, it wasn't a guarantee that he was going to pop up on your hinge. You know what I'm saying? It's not like Instagram where you can go to their page. You know what I'm saying? You were hoping to find him on the swipes. You were. You're crazy.

[Mecca]

And that's okay. I just want. This is for the girls who they call crazy. Sometimes the things that will reassure you on your gut feeling, you need that reassurance. But as a crazy lady myself. Wait, Taking it back to the point earlier, and why, if everything that happened this weekend was worth it, the vindication. Because it was around that point in time that I stopped doing crazy shit like that. Because the crazy shit like that much like this, sister, I would be proven correct. And it was like, well, that's what I thought. Anyway, I didn't have to do no crazy shit to do that. And that when I. When I saw that text message that the boy sent, that was one of the first times that instead of doing some crazy shit to confirm I was correct, I just said, I'm gonna follow my gut. And so I'm gonna say this to all the crazy ladies out there. You're.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm not crazy.

[Mecca]

You're not crazy Cause you think you crazy. Cause you're following through. No, no, you're crazy. Cause the shit that you're doing to confirm, you're crazy for getting the. Trying to get the receipt to back up your gut feeling. Just follow your gut.

[Jamila Bell]

You didn't need all that crazy. You knew.

[Mecca]

You knew that. And sometimes two years later, people will pop out and say they found their nudes and your asshole in their ex's phone. And you knew he had a girlfriend, so you ain't got to be crazy. Sometimes it just come to you.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, God. Well, let's get into these comments, y'all.

[Mecca]

We're gonna take a break. And we're back.

[Jamila Bell]

All right, y'all, we are about to read a couple of our comments and reviews and thoughts from the previous epis. I want y'all to continue to send those in. We. We love reading them so much. We love all the feedback. Um, so, yeah, make sure you guys keep sending them in. I'm going to start off with the Apple podcast. Truly unhinged and my exact cup of tea. By six. Parker gave us five stars. I'm excited, period. Y'all have me in stitches. I can no longer listen to y'all at work due to the laughter that comes from the deepest depths of my gut. Long story short, I have lost my podcast music privileges, but it's all worth it. Thank you. Keep up the great work, ladies. Definitely in my top two of podcasts. Coming from TikTok. I love to experience y'all in this space. It's such a real place. Also, my latest scare tactic for my teenage sisters is get pregnant with chlamydia if you want to. Thank you so much. Unfortunately, I'm sad you had to stop listening to us at work, but please don't lose that job of us, sister. But thank you so much for the love.

[Mecca]

If you want to. Is good. Okay. I'll be reading everyone from Spotify. Autumn says you guys having Meech as y'all first guest is so iconic. What a legend. We love Demetrius. Keisha the Cutie, period. Said the way I never realized that meme was Jameela. Wow. Proof that when it's your time, no one can stop you. Wow. YouTube. Ventori said, Y'all need Bubba or Suave next. Bubba, Suave, come on down. Come to the podcast, please. We'd love that. Bubba and Sway. Kyra Lee said yes to more old black Internet stars as guests. King Bach and friends are not included. They would never be invited. That King bitch child Astro said. I said, meechy not we got Meech in the building. And Mikayla said, y'all have me belly laughing. I'm so weak. Last week was funny as fuck.

[Jamila Bell]

I just need to laugh.

[Mecca]

Bubba and Sway, please come to the podcast.

[Jamila Bell]

Everybody come to the podcast. Okay, These are some YouTube comments. I got this notification and looked around like Beyonce at the Grammys. I felt like Christmas. Aw. That was kiss. Bke6436 ed skyler j says omg y'all had meech on here. How iconic was screaming the entire segment after spinning. Y'all are so funny like that. Like the mag. I love dark humor. I'll never forget my sister said I'm dead loud as hell in the middle of a funeral in response to something I said. I wasn't even trying to be funny for real. Lmao. I look at my mom. The look that our mom gave us. I would have been a triple threat funeral that day.

[Mecca]

Please.

[Jamila Bell]

Said Meech was the perfect first guest. So proud of all three of y'all. Thank you so much. Demetrius Harmon what's up? He said he got a kid for show. I'm all knowing. No the way he predicted that killed me.

[Mecca]

He got a kid.

[Jamila Bell]

Ed Magravon said Mecca and Jameela just kept on with the convo and I'm right with demetrius dying. Ezrae McNair7313 Y'all are hilarious. Jameela talking about you need to get you a six. I agree girly. You should not date her co worker Elima y'all a777 said at the timestamp facts men want the baddest women in the city until they get them and recognize they can lose them to someone else. So they try to humble women into shells of themselves. Amen. That was a word right there. Don't get a bad bitch if you can't handle a bad bitch. Proverbs 8:31.

[Mecca]

Church announcements don't forget to subscribe, obviously. Like comment and subscribe. Subscribe to our Patreon we are a little bit late this week on the Insecure episode, the rewatch episode. We'll probably do that tonight, film tonight, all that stuff. So that should be up tomorrow or the next day.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, I'll get it when you get it.

[Mecca]

Patreon $3 monthly we upload our interviews with TikTok people, mutuals, all of our other content. We will be in Dallas Easter weekend. We're having some hostings. We are hosting Rooted in Rhythm, the country music festival for black and brown people to start to showcase rising stars of color in country music.

[Jamila Bell]

We're also hosting a brunch on Easter Sunday.

[Mecca]

On actual Easter Sunday.

[Jamila Bell]

What restaurant it is.

[Mecca]

I did forget what restaurant.

[Jamila Bell]

We'll post it for sure.

[Mecca]

People were giving us suggestions of churches to pop in maybe for Easter service and Dallas before that. Definitely keep doing that. And we have some other things in the work for Dallas. Bet you guys will see.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. So make sure you guys are following along. We are actually shooting. I think we said it earlier in the podcast, we're shooting our promo today for our live show. So just know we're still working on that and we'll have information for y'all sooner than sooner than soon. So thanks, y'all, for all the support and all of the hate as well. Love you. Bye.

[Mecca]

Send them a picture of your booty hole.

[Jamila Bell]

Unhinged and Immoral is hosted by Jamila Bell and Mecca, produced by Melissa D.

[Mecca]

Montz and Diamond Imprint Productions, post production by Coco Lawrence, production assistant by Melanie.

[Jamila Bell]

D. Watson, music by Adi and Brooklyn.

[Mecca]

Billionaires and graphics by Claudia Choi.