Who Invited You Ft DCMWG | Unhinged & Immoral EP 69

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "Who Invited You Ft DCMWG"

Unhinged & Immoral – Episode 69
Host: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans | Guest: Mona (Don't Call Me White Girl)
Date: May 14, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this energetic, wildly entertaining episode, best friends and hosts Jamila and Mecca welcome the hilarious and unfiltered Mona (known as "Don't Call Me White Girl") for a conversation that swings from internet culture and comedy, to Black community dynamics, childhood influences, fame, dating, and more. This jam-packed episode delivers a raw, unvarnished look into their upbringings and lived experiences, offering both raucous laughs and moments of earnest reflection.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mona's Journey in Podcasting & Joe Budden Experience

[01:03–05:54]

• Mona talks about joining Joe Budden’s podcast and navigating its intense cult following, addressing how criticism (especially online comments) can hit hard but ultimately sharpen her skills.
• Mona reveals her struggles with professional lateness and shares how a background outside of corporate work shapes her approach.
• The conversation highlights parasocial relationships in podcasting and social media, showing how audience expectations can blend with personal and professional growth.
• “There are more positive comments than negative… You do not have to engage in negative comments.” – Mona [04:01]

2. Personality, Zodiac Signs, and Relationships

[09:10–12:17]

• Playful discussion around astrology: Mona’s Aquarius personality, past fiancés (Virgos), and friends as Cancers.
• Hilarious, real takes on the implications of star signs in dating, sex, and friendship.
• Everyone reflects on chaotic dating stories and how their signs supposedly influence compatibility and drama.

3. Culture, Food, and Regional Identity

[13:31–19:04]

• The group reminisces about seafood traditions—blue crabs in Philly, crawfish boils down South, and family cookouts—juxtaposing how different Black communities find connection in food rituals.
• “Sitting on the step eating crabs is a thing. It’s a national Philadelphian treasure.” – Mona [14:09]
• The differences in food culture become a lens for exploring class, identity, and community values.

4. Blackness, Inviting In and Setting Boundaries

[35:31–41:57]

• Reflecting on Black community openness—how sometimes Black folks are “too nice” and quick to invite others in, to their parties and culture.
• “Respectability politics” gets scrutinized; they push back against the notion of “acting right” in front of white people.
• “I’m not going to unblacken myself. I’m, like, overly Black, unapologetically.” – Jameela [39:21]

5. Race, Language, and Ownership of Culture

[62:50–67:07]

• Delving into “the n-word” dynamics—who gets to say it, regional differences, and the unwelcome shock of white or non-Black people using it.
• Mona shares a poignant story of a white fan crossing the line despite their relationship, reflecting on the complexities of navigating Blackness, authenticity, and boundaries.
• The discussion moves to Fat Joe, Hispanic communities up North, “cool Blackness,” and lines drawn in Southern Black culture.

6. Social Media, Cancel Culture, and Accountability

[47:01–50:31]

• Mona recounts her experiences with being “canceled” for comments about the LGBTQ+ community, acknowledging growth, apologies, and the evolving power of language:
  • “He said when he used to get chased home…whether they call him a nigger or the F word, it felt the same. And that shit fucked me up.” – Mona [44:48]
• Honest talk about learning from mistakes and navigating the challenges of platform, privilege (light-skin, “pretty privilege”), and responsibility to one’s own community.

7. Upbringings, Wokeness, and Generational Shifts

[52:26–59:06]

• Candid stories about growing up with politically engaged, “woke” parents and family, facing anti-Blackness in the South and among Black communities themselves.
• Jamila recounts early exposure to history, activism, and deeply ingrained Black pride.

8. Podcast Industry Realities & Money

[80:38–84:02]

• Mona opens up about the differences in pay and power within the podcast world, particularly for women and Black creators.
• Transparency about contracts, negotiating value, and the lessons learned from being underpaid and advocating for themselves.

9. Fame, Dating, and Being “Known”

[93:10–119:08]

• All three women share the pros and cons of fame, from wild fan encounters to the difficulties of dating “in the public eye.”
• Mona’s honest tale about changing relationship dynamics post-fame highlights trust issues, public perception, and the increasingly transactional nature of modern dating.
• “Now it’s like, how do you date? …Everybody I meet think they know me already.” – Mona [114:37]
• Hilarious final discussion on types (physical and personality), “sassy” men, and preferences.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“I cried for 45 minutes… and then I did the thing you’re not supposed to do on shrooms—I looked in the mirror. My face is melting off of my head.”
– Mona, on shroom adventures and emotional rollercoasters [89:04]

“Every Negro in here, if you were white and mediocre… you wouldn’t have to be anything other than that.”
– Mona, on structural privilege and mediocrity [41:57]

“I'm supposed to be teaching people stuff. That's what I really think. Like, I'm supposed to save the world. And that's an Aquarian thing anyway—we all think we're gonna save everybody.”
– Mona [28:57]

“We do everything so much better. I mean, it is a little bit of a struggle…it’s a little sad sometimes. Like the police, you know? Other than that, boy, we will turn the cookout up.”
– Mona on the Black experience [36:39]

“There is nobody hating more and I don’t care, I’m not stopping playing… I have never not gave it up like that any.”
– Mona, about online haters and standing unapologetically in her identity [48:41]

“Y’all make that single shit look fun. And y’all make it look like even with the like. …I remember the first thing with noticing I’m older than these bitches is that the besties, they hump each other in the club. ...the most you might do is if you want some ho shit, you selling some pictures.”
– Mona on intergenerational attitudes toward relationships and intimacy [33:07]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–05:54: Recap of Mona’s journey, Joe Budden podcast, and handling negativity
• 09:10–12:17: Zodiac signs, relationship anecdotes
• 13:31–19:04: Seafood rituals, Philly vs. Southern food culture
• 35:31–41:57: Black openness and respectability politics
• 47:01–52:26: Cancel culture, privilege discussions, genuine apologies
• 52:26–59:06: Upbringing, “wokeness,” and differences between Southern and Northern Blackness
• 62:50–67:07: The n-word, race, and culture boundaries
• 80:38–84:02: Podcast income, music industry parallels
• 93:10–119:08: Navigating fame, dating stories, and audience perceptions
• 121:29–124:06: On dating “types” and closing laughs

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Episode Tone

The conversation is lively, irreverent, and deeply rooted in Black cultural nuance—unfiltered, anecdotal, full of inside jokes, quick-witted banter and vulnerability. The hosts and guest move seamlessly from laughing about food and hair to weighing in on social justice and mental health, reflecting their zillenial vantage point and their backgrounds in PR, comedy, and online content creation.

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Summary:
If you’re looking for a podcast episode that is hilarious, raw, culturally incisive, and deeply personal—and that seamlessly blends commentary on pop culture, relationships, the Black experience, and the realities of digital fame—this one is essential listening. The chemistry between Mona, Jamila, and Mecca is undeniable, and their unvarnished honesty will resonate long after the laughs subside.

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Transcript

[Jameela]

Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged Immoral. We have a very special fun guest today.

[Mecca]

This is Beyonce's light skinned porch. Right now,

[Jameela]

we're about to get into some teens. We are coming off the dome again. We just shot jokes on you prior to this. So it got really weird over there in like the best way. And we hope it gets weird again with you. All right, welcome everybody. AKA Don't Call me White Girl.

[Mona]

Which camera is mine?

[Mecca]

This one right here.

[Mona]

This one.

[Mecca]

And then that's the middle joint. Yeah, exactly. So they can zoom in.

[Mona]

Yeah, I try to lock in with the people. How y' all doing?

[Jameela]

We're doing great. How are you?

[Mecca]

So much has happened since the last time we seen you.

[Mona]

Has it?

[Mecca]

You had just started with. Yeah, I think you only did like one episode. You were getting ready to do it.

[Mona]

I probably was. Had light in my eyes.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

I think you were like maybe two or three episodes in.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

And now, you know, you a mainstay.

[Mecca]

Okay. That be like, where is Mona at?

[Mona]

I don't know. I, I, I haven't signed nothing long, I guess. Y' all can get exclusive. I just resigned something else. But it's short. It's very short, period. I feel like my shit be so short that whenever it's over, they gonna just assume I got fired. Like every big job I ever had, it was like that. You know what I mean? Especially people that don't, like, go out of their way to explain things. And that's how Joey is. People still don't know what happened. I don't know what happened with Melissa. So it's like, you know. But I did, I mean, it's, I know that definitely when I saw y' all and I was like, first couple hubs. I didn't know still.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Because I really, really didn't understand what Joey built over there. You know what I mean? Me and Joey had this parasocial relationship. He was a fan of mine.

[Mecca]

I know. Cause you calling him Joey now.

[Jameela]

He was Joe before me and Joey.

[Mecca]

Joseph. Me and Joey.

[Jameela]

Mr. Joseph.

[Mona]

You know why I called him Joey? Because that was my old name. Like in the system, like with jail. My AKA Is Joey. That was my name in the street.

[Mecca]

Interesting.

[Mona]

How'd you get that? Because in Philly they say you being Joe, if you friendly. And I was super friendly.

[Jameela]

I remember you taught us about Joe Joe.

[Mona]

So you was overly friendly. I was way too. Yes. And that's a crime in Philadelphia. But I also say the same way. It's a crime in Philadelphia. Is holding a lot of Philadelphians back because you knew niggas think that being social is jail. Networking is jail. That's why you can't get out that damn job. Cause you don't talk to people when you go outside. I've always been super social. It worked for me. But, yeah, they used to call me Joey. Yeah. So that's where Joey's so comfortable to say Joey. But me and Joe had this parasocial relationship, you know, And I don't. I just, you know, I would go up there and fuck with him and do his pod. I never saw none of the episodes I was on the ones I did for free, no contract or whatever. I never looked at him or whatever. When I got announced that went viral that first episode. And boy, them niggas, boy. And he has a cult following. He is proof that for sure. He is proof that you kind of attract almost like what you are in a way, kinda. I always say, like, when I do these comedy shows and some of these comics, they're new comics. My audience is more giving, like black auntie, like, you got it, babe. Versus shut the fuck up. You know what I mean?

[Mecca]

Yeah, Joe.

[Mona]

People definitely giving. Shut the fuck up.

[Jameela]

Like, oh, they're mean. Shut the fuck up, bitch.

[Mona]

Actually. Oh, y' all know that they're mean.

[Mecca]

Yes.

[Jameela]

I'm like. I watch the Joe Budden podcast adjacently. Like, I'm not into the Patreon. I'm not watching from start to finish, but I pretty much watch every clip that comes down. So I see the majority of the conversations that happen, and I'm pretty locked in. Like, I be. You know, and I'll be like, damn, these comments are crazy.

[Mona]

Yeah, it's. It's scared, dog. I. I've been doing this for eight years. I sat and read comments like, three, four in the morning and sobbed. I've never done that before.

[Jameela]

Really.

[Mona]

It was stupid to do. When my period was coming up, it was silly to do that because it's like you're choosing to read. You do not have to engage in negative comments. There are more positive comments than negative. And it's like if you're on an app, like, the Patreon comments are the most vicious. Like, you don't have to read them. You know what I mean? So it was definitely on purpose. I feel like I was. You ever being a funk and you. It's almost like when you say you put on sad music. Yeah, I was already in that mood. But that's dangerous. What I did.

[Mecca]

That was crazy.

[Jameela]

You can't do it too often, but every now and then, I do get in that bag where I just want to, like, just feel like. And I'm like, okay. And it just fills me up. I'm like, now I really gotta turn it up.

[Mona]

And it's the thing, too, is like, I'm an A mic on my podcast. The nigga I'm on the podcast with, his main role is to. So it's a total different thing, for sure. So it's like I kind of learned reading the comic sometimes because it's like I'm getting on their nerves. I'm talking too much. I'm doing. But that's just what I know what to do on my comic did air. I think I gotta fill it up on top of the fact that I'm professionally funny, I was gonna say, but

[Jameela]

that's what you were about there to do. They didn't bring you on there to be quiet.

[Mona]

Ice, listen like that. Shout out to my nigga. But even that, like, Ice was one of the first people, like, yo, you need to mute that shit on every app. Don't read that shit. Don't engage. Don't start trying to, like, do things for them. Cause it'll never stop. It's gonna drive you crazy. And he was right for the most part. But I definitely, like, got better from reading some of it. It's just instead of them being like, I'm on the picky pockets, it's like, shut up, you stupid street bitch. For you be back to jail, you dumb ass hood ass bitch. What the fuck? Shut up. Wait your turn. That was funny at 27:38, but shut the fuck up at 50. They don't fuck around.

[Mecca]

They be remembering the timestamps, all this shit.

[Mona]

It's just different. But it's like, it's hard not to admire it as a podcaster. Like, to be able to do some shit like that is crazy. Headaches. I mean, we filming for three hours. These niggas watching this shit. Yeah.

[Mecca]

Yes.

[Mona]

Three hours.

[Jameela]

What time y' all start?

[Mona]

Usually I gotta be there at, like, 10:30.

[Jameela]

Okay, that's not too bad.

[Mona]

We're out.

[Jameela]

What time you get there?

[Mona]

11:10. And it's crazy. Cause I, like, it's so hard to be on time. Like, I'm realizing now that I have a. Like, it's a problem. It's like, it's a thing.

[Jameela]

It's that adhd.

[Mona]

It's the adhd. It's the fact that I don't come from a real career background. I didn't have a job where I was getting rolled up for being late. I made my own schedule. I was an entrepreneur prior to this. Illegally, you know what I mean? So it's like, I don't come from that. And then it's so easy to not lock in with this because you'll be four hours late. People will greet you with a smile on this. Like, this. The whole famous thing. There's no like. You know what I mean? So it's like.

[Jameela]

So you need to get in trouble more, apparently.

[Mona]

Or have fans curse me the fuck out, because those motherfuckers are. Nope. I had never been pulled to the side by Joe Button about being late. But they don't like it. They don't like that I'm walking too late. The people.

[Jameela]

The people.

[Mona]

And you know what's funny, guys?

[Mecca]

Cause you're ruining the setup and the vibe, I guess.

[Mona]

You know what's funny? It's like, I wonder if I went to some of your jobs and I talked to your supervisors or I just looked in your little file and see what you had going. Like, are you. Did you get rolled up for how

[Mecca]

you came back from lunch five minutes late.

[Mona]

You feel me? Nobody knows what you're doing over there at that target, and nobody gives a shit. But you gonna tell me about my job. Whatever. Y' all being ridiculous. If you think about it in that way, you're being a rat and you're being ridiculous. Why are you in the comments saying, oh, you need to. She's late, bitch. How late have you been to Amazon? Let's get. Let's be fired.

[Mecca]

I heard Amazon fire real quick.

[Mona]

They sure do.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say my brother used

[Jameela]

to work at Amazon.

[Mona]

It's over.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Amazon clip you at 2am and send your black ass home middle of the night when it's, yeah, whatever. But no, but I've been, like, really, really trying to work on time. I actually haven't been late for a little while, which is. Makes me uncomfortable. Cause then it's like, but no, I don't enjoy being late. You don't want to walk in anxious. But it is something I struggle with. Like, I'm literally looking for help with it. I suffer from lateness.

[Mecca]

From lateness.

[Jameela]

We gotta find you a late aa.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Late a. Yeah.

[Mona]

Cause it really. It does suck. But at least I'm aware.

[Mecca]

Getting whipped people who are, like, chronically on time. I'm not like, egregiously late, but I'm definitely like, was raised by some, like, my mom.

[Jameela]

No urgency.

[Mecca]

Thank you, cuz. You can. You can see.

[Jameela]

She.

[Mecca]

She. We right here on the docket. Like, I just, like, you know, 10 minutes, that's.

[Mona]

We good.

[Mecca]

It don't be good.

[Mona]

So out of y' all two, you're the late one.

[Mecca]

Oh, I'm the late one. Oh, I'm absolutely late one, babe.

[Jameela]

Yomi, we can't lose you, sister.

[Mecca]

That's like the second time where it's like, fourth wall break. Yomi almost tripped y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Mecca]

No. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I'm getting better. Cause I don't want, like, people talking about me. And then when you're with people. Because her. And then also my cousin is very punctual. That's the word. And when you get with people, it's like, they be.

[Mona]

Yeah. And you're the one. You don't want to be the one.

[Mecca]

And you don't want to get.

[Mona]

And to be honest, it's like, I do look up to Joe. Joe's like something like a mentor. And Joey is on. He's early. Like, it ain't no. He's early. That's how you get there. He's a Virgo. You know, Virgos get down and they're the worst people.

[Mecca]

No, Shade don't play.

[Mona]

Well, I did. I was engaged. I was engaged to a Virgo.

[Mecca]

Really?

[Mona]

Yeah, they are.

[Mecca]

That's why you're not engaged no more.

[Mona]

No. Because you know what? You can't pull one over on them. I don't like me. No. That never tight.

[Mecca]

Too strict.

[Mona]

Oh, boy.

[Mecca]

They got a whole bunch of rules.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

I don't like that. I used to be Lucy Goosey with me.

[Mona]

This is how I describe a Virgo. A Virgo is approaching you around Christmas for some shit you did in spring. And play for play. What you did, what time you did it, how you did it, how you felt about it, all that. And it's like, nigga, like, I don't

[Jameela]

even remember I did that.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Like what you.

[Mecca]

I completely forgot about that. You should.

[Mona]

I don't like it. I don't like it. I. You know, I didn't enjoy it. I didn't enjoy. He was a great guy, but wasn't. Wasn't for me.

[Mecca]

That's fair enough. What is your sign again on it?

[Mona]

I'm an Aquarius.

[Mecca]

That's wise.

[Mona]

I'm the most Aquarian Aquarius that you'll ever meet. If you look up Aquarians, it's me, okay? In the picture. I kid you not. I shit you not. I watch those horoscope little videos all the Little shit. I have to stop because that shit is me.

[Mecca]

She be like, that's me.

[Jameela]

My sister's fiance is an Aquarius.

[Mona]

Oh, I'm so sorry about that. Is she okay?

[Jameela]

She's lovely.

[Mona]

Yeah, because he eats her ass. They're very. Aquariuses are very freaky, but they're very. Aquariuses are a lot. I don't know. I couldn't imagine Aquarian, man.

[Jameela]

Well, she's a girl, right?

[Mona]

But he's a man and he's an Aquarius.

[Mecca]

Her sister's gay.

[Jameela]

No, everybody's girls.

[Mona]

Okay, wait a minute.

[Jameela]

Everybody's a girl. My sister's fiance is a woman and the girl is an Aquarius.

[Mona]

Okay, that's a little better, but still rough on your sister. What's your sister's eye?

[Jameela]

She's a Capricorn. She's the one who's actually the one that people need to be afraid of.

[Mona]

Yeah. Yeah. Those caps or something.

[Jameela]

Yeah, there's something else.

[Mona]

I made one. One of my kids.

[Jameela]

Yeah, them caps are scary.

[Mecca]

Yeah, but you got to keep very on point, though.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Got to keep it buried by the. 1, 2, 3. Strict.

[Mona]

Yeah. I'm surrounded by cancers. Most of my friends are canc. It makes me sick. I'm tired of it.

[Mecca]

Very emotional.

[Mona]

Just bitch ass niggas. And it's like one of my best friends for 20 something years was a cancer. And she always talked about it. It was always a thing. And I don't know why. It just wasn't a thing for me. But these last five, six years, every one of my friends is like. It's freaky. I don't know what it is.

[Mecca]

Like, maybe it's something innately in you that attracts cancers.

[Mona]

It gotta be probably my strength in the fact that I'm not a bitch ass nigga. One thing for sure, I fucked one recently. Horrible.

[Mecca]

Oh, is it bad?

[Mona]

Oh, like PP was bad. It's. No, it's not. It's him. Just him and just basically everything about him in his life. To start during finish design.

[Mecca]

My ex is a cap.

[Mona]

Almost everything was horrible, basically.

[Mecca]

Well, both my exes are capped.

[Mona]

It was pretty rough. Do not recommend. Do not recommend. Rough ride. Yeah, for me, it's a Libra. Every Libra guy I've ever dealt with, I felt really good about it.

[Jameela]

Really?

[Mona]

Yes.

[Jameela]

I mean, they're fun, but we just

[Mecca]

had a Libra in here yesterday.

[Mona]

We did A man.

[Mecca]

Yeah, man.

[Jameela]

A comedian.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say a comedian.

[Jameela]

Haitian, from Miami, Florida.

[Mona]

SAP. I say. Hey, I've never dated Haitian.

[Jameela]

Really? Me neither.

[Mona]

I've never dated outside my race. I've only dated black men.

[Mecca]

Black man.

[Jameela]

Yeah. The only other, like, you know, mixy, mixy, blendy blend. He was from America. Like he was born in New York, but he was Jamaican and Brazilian.

[Mona]

You dated that?

[Jameela]

I did. It was not a pleasant experience, I'm about to say.

[Mona]

What the fuck was that like?

[Jameela]

Nah, it was not nice.

[Mona]

That's like trying coke.

[Jameela]

Yeah. And you know what? He was an Aquarius.

[Mona]

No. What the fuck is wrong with you? You do it for the plot, bitch.

[Jameela]

I like that it was accidental.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Mecca]

You don't like goat, Mona?

[Mona]

Huh?

[Mecca]

You don't like goat?

[Mona]

Like the meat? Yeah, I haven't had it enjoyed it yet.

[Mecca]

It's pretty good.

[Mona]

No. Well, I mean I'm not against it.

[Mecca]

It's like when I was in the Caribbean, I went to ABC islands like that's they meat that they eat. Cause there's so many goats on the island. It's like a beef.

[Mona]

Is it?

[Mecca]

It's. Yeah. It look a little gray sometimes.

[Jameela]

It's a little bit gamey.

[Mecca]

No, I would say it's a little gamey.

[Mona]

It gives game.

[Mecca]

It's a gamey, gamey situation.

[Mona]

When I'm eating, not doing is playing games.

[Jameela]

I don't know if I. I don't want no game. I want it tamed.

[Mona]

I like oxtail.

[Jameela]

I was going to say.

[Mecca]

But that's how they cook it with like a lot of curry. And you not a curry girl.

[Mona]

Not a curry girl. Not a curry.

[Mecca]

I don't know in Philly.

[Mona]

I know if curry's very popular.

[Jameela]

Not a good curry chicken.

[Mona]

Now I can do. I can stomach curry shrimp. But like I'm not eating curry chicken. I'm not eating curry. I'm not eating nothing. I'm just not babe. Is not my thing. I think I'm a seafood girly. And that's why I could do curry shrimp. You know, I'm from North Philly. Sitting on the step eating crabs is a thing like that is a national Philadelphian treasure.

[Jameela]

I'm a seafood girl down as well.

[Mecca]

Y' all do oysters? Sure, yeah, oysters.

[Mona]

We're from the ghetto Mecca. We eat old full body crabs.

[Mecca]

No.

[Jameela]

So you busted that back open like blue crab.

[Mona]

Blue crab. That's what everybody did when I grew up. I was a little bit spoiled. My Aunt Charlene shout out to my Aunt Charlene. She like raised me on dungeonese crabs. But of course I end up getting on blue crabs like everybody else. It's a social thing. You're not filled up on them. Yeah, you have to know how to. You have to know how to make the butter sauce. Butter, a little bit of vinegar. It has to be crystal hot sauce. It's a thing. Garlic powder. It's a thing. But it's a North Philly. It's a Philadelphian thing. Like we.

[Jameela]

I love me some blue crab. A lot of people don't eat blue crab though. Cause they don't know how to.

[Mona]

It's work. It is. And that's the fun part, I think. People drinking a beer outside, talking shit.

[Jameela]

Good meat.

[Mona]

Yes. And you know, it's like that really is what we do, you know? And it's like when you go to other places and it's like crawfish and oysters.

[Jameela]

Well, now, hold on.

[Mecca]

I love a crawfish.

[Mona]

I like crawfish. I like crawfish. We discovered crawfish when bagged seafood came up north. Cause we didn't have that.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

And then a lot of the Asian, like quick seafood spots, they started doing this bagged seafood and it got really popular. And we eat crawfish. But that's not the crawfish y' all be eating.

[Mecca]

No, it's not.

[Jameela]

No. That crawfish that traveled up north, by the time it gets y', all, it's been dead for two weeks.

[Mona]

It's like a roach. Like a little seafood roach. They've been.

[Jameela]

And I still like when you get them in the season, they be about this big. Big as hell, juicy head full of.

[Mona]

I never had a crawfish that big.

[Jameela]

Yeah, you gotta come to that southeast region on that Gulf coast where they be in people yard and shit.

[Mecca]

But they. They be in and out of season though.

[Mona]

In people's yard.

[Jameela]

Yeah. When you in the swamplands, when you in the swamplands, they'll be in your yard. But usually you can kind of get em from the Gulf. Like I remember there were summers where like my uncles would go crabbing and getting some crawfish. I'm talking about. They throw that net out there.

[Mecca]

Whoops.

[Jameela]

Pounds and pounds and pounds of crawfish and crabs.

[Mecca]

And then they're how I had blue crab for the first time. Cause my homegirl ex husband is Cajun and he would. They would fish and what she talking about? And he. They would come back with barrels of blue crab and she would just cook them. I never had had it until like last summer.

[Mona]

Never seen.

[Mecca]

I like, what is this? A snow crab? Pop the leg. That's what I was raised on.

[Mona]

Never seen niggas Go out and get nothing.

[Jameela]

Oh, yeah. I'm country for real.

[Mona]

Yeah. You don't know nothing about it.

[Mecca]

Isn't Philadelphia near the water?

[Mona]

Am I tripping?

[Jameela]

But they not country.

[Mona]

That's not fishing.

[Jameela]

And they not. They not going. Yeah. Cuz, mind you, the way we used to go crabbing, this is how country it used to get. We'd have a. A piece of string. We would tie a chicken leg to it and just drop it in there. And then you got to. And then you get the net and then swoop them again, and we just go crab them just like that. And they would just all nibble. They would nibble on that little piece of chicken. By the time you done crabbing, that piece of chicken ain't nothing but bone them. Crabs get to go on to work, but you got to be slow because they really just latched on like this into the water.

[Mona]

Like, I've seen. And I know what it sounds like when they hit the pot of steamy hot water.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Because people buying water, you know what I mean, to cook them or whatever. But no. Never seen nobody fish and come back with no goddamn crab. If we knew how to do that, it would be over.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Yeah. She has so many crabs, and she cooked them, like, several different ways that day. Like, she fried some, she steamed some, she boiled some, and she taught me how to do what y' all are doing. Like peel the body back that back back, you know? Exactly. That's how it looked.

[Jameela]

You gotta go from the little pee pee little part.

[Mona]

The most popular, I think, thing in Philadelphia right now. Because this is the thing in Philly, it's totally normal for you to get dressed and designer clothing, go to a local bar that you could get shot walking out of and eat mussels, crabs, shrimp, smell like garlic. Party, twerk. I don't know why that goes in there.

[Mecca]

That's like an amazing vibe.

[Mona]

That's exactly.

[Jameela]

But I know there's a smell to it.

[Mona]

That's a trench north Philly vibe.

[Mecca]

Like, smells like garlic itself. It doesn't matter.

[Jameela]

It's cool. Once everybody blended in.

[Mona]

I remember when I first, like, got to caring about that and n. And I remember thinking, like, I would never eat crabs in a bar until I was eating crabs in a bar, because everybody's eating them.

[Mecca]

Shit.

[Jameela]

Shitting me and you drunk. I'm hungry, and I'm dunking, and I don't even go glove with it. If I don't got no nails on. I'm not going glove. I'm going fist deep.

[Mona]

Boom.

[Mecca]

Boom, boom. Busting things. Down in Houston, the clubs will do specials like you. People are popping bottles in the section and ordering pounds of crawfish and getting. I mean, like busting them open in front of me.

[Jameela]

I go £5 immediately.

[Mecca]

I need a sausage and egg with

[Mona]

it, piece of corn. Wait a minute. And listen. I think in the bar with us, the most popular one is they take the top off, they clean it out for you, then they saute it in the garlic butter sauce.

[Mecca]

Oh.

[Mona]

So when you get it, it's the two bodies and the legs, so you really just suck. That's super popular.

[Jameela]

I can do that. That's easy. You don't even gotta take.

[Mona]

Crabs are amazing. Yeah, yeah. That's the thing. But you know, I don't know. I don't know why we just talked about grabs for hour.

[Jameela]

Now I'm say it got real greedy for a second, cuz now I want some crabs. I'm say, now I gotta.

[Mecca]

Now I want some seafood.

[Jameela]

Now I gotta make my way to some seafood. Cause I haven't had me a good boil in a minute. And yeah, now I'm doing it.

[Mecca]

Do y' all put rice and stuff with it or is it just the

[Mona]

people that has gotten popular in like pasta, like noodles and stuff. But.

[Jameela]

But that's some real new shit.

[Mona]

Yeah, it is. That is thing. But I tell you one thing that I see people do down south. And I want to want to try it so bad when y' all have turkey legs in the bag. Like, I cannot. But turkey neck. Turkey neck. Yes. I love. I'm somebody that if I make collard greens, I use turkey neck. And I'll eat all the turkey neck out of my pot. Like whether if everybody eat it or not, I'll pull it to the side and eat it. Yeah. So the fact that turkey neck in

[Jameela]

some red beans and rice. Let me tell you something. My God, I want to dive in the pot. Turkey neck so tender. And I'd be like damn near putting my tongue in the hole or the neck, the vertebrae. I'm like. It dawns on me like I'm busting neck down. Like I be feeling bad after I see the bone. I'm like, bro, this was in somebody's body. The whole vertebrae just pop apart.

[Mona]

There's only one way to do it. You have to suck it.

[Mecca]

Yes.

[Jameela]

You gotta get that marrow out.

[Mona]

Oh, my God. And I'm a crystal hot sauce girl. I don't think any other hot sauce belongs. I think crystal is a vinegar based.

[Jameela]

I like a Texas Pete. Love a Texas Pete. I love a Texas Pete. I like Louisiana, but it's flavorful and crystal.

[Mecca]

I mean, it's hotter than Texas Pete, though.

[Mona]

Is it?

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I can't think of what Texas feet tastes like.

[Jameela]

It's a vinegar.

[Mona]

I probably like Texas.

[Jameela]

You would like. If you like crystal.

[Mona]

You would like I live and die by crystal. Like, it's a big deal. Like, I'll order the chicken wings if I see y' all got crystal from New York. Like, it's a thing with me.

[Jameela]

And I don't like when a hot sauce is overly thick either. Oh, I don't like that.

[Mona]

You know, and, you know, actually use sriracha. Grow up.

[Mecca]

I like sriracha.

[Mona]

I'm an American.

[Mecca]

I like Asian food.

[Jameela]

Yeah. Sriracha only goes in pho.

[Mecca]

It has to go on.

[Jameela]

Like, I need my shit to shoot out like this. I gotta jank it out.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

That's what I want to do with my hot sauce.

[Mecca]

They don't put no vinegar in that, though. That's just like the crushed up garlic and chilies and stuff.

[Mona]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jameela]

Keep that in the pho.

[Mona]

It's very hard for me to not look at you, Jamila, and see Bow Wow. I can't separate them. I can't. And it's weird.

[Mecca]

Did you play Bow Wow or what?

[Jameela]

Do you remember I did Bow Wow for.

[Mona]

There's nobody else that did Bow Wow better than that.

[Jameela]

And nobody ever will because I love and respect Bow Wow. People be trying to. People be trying to be funny when they do Bow Wow. I was dead fuck serious.

[Mona]

Yeah. And you size at the time. Like, when Bow Wow was wearing that shit. Y' all was wearing that same size.

[Jameela]

Yeah, I had his exact outfit on my comment.

[Mona]

Nailed it.

[Mecca]

Nailed it.

[Jameela]

I. I wanted him to see it so bad. And he never commented.

[Mona]

I'm like, seeing it.

[Jameela]

Girl, please, Boward, please. I really wanted you to see it and understand the respect that I have. Like, I love.

[Mona]

That's the part. Now he's gonna reach out because he knows it wasn't a joke.

[Jameela]

Yeah. And maybe he thought I was joking. I was dead. The.

[Mona]

Because he's constantly, you know, and they

[Jameela]

be mean to him. And I always say, don't be mean to Bow Wow.

[Mona]

I just said some. Nothing, really. I just sit around a bunch of niggas and they gas me. And as long as I go too far. Yeah, I really went too far recently with them, but I do it a lot. And my friend was like, hey, look, pay attention. You get to talk. And they Tapping the cameraman and shit. They do. That's what be happening. They set me right up. I give it up every time.

[Jameela]

So sweet.

[Mona]

Like, yeah.

[Jameela]

They say we already know. We know how to get her going. She finna say something.

[Mona]

Watch.

[Jameela]

As soon as you do the clipping timestamp.

[Mona]

Got it, bro. We both be talking shit. But Joey clips be going, just be me.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Oh, yeah. No, no.

[Mona]

He's messy.

[Jameela]

He be sitting there like this.

[Mona]

He don't give a fuck what you think, Mona. Oh, my God. And that's all it takes sometimes. But, yeah, I just said something. He's like, whatever. I take it back, Bow.

[Mecca]

I'm crying. Do you feel like since you've been on Joe Budden, things have changed for you? Like, even in, like, the six months that you've been doing it?

[Mona]

Yeah, yeah. The platform is that big. I do. I've been touring, doing standup for a while now. And it's like, I'm not gonna lie. I'm blessed. The shows sell out. I don't do huge shows anyway. But I haven't toured a lot, so they sell out. But it's like the first time I ever mentioned a standup show on Joey's show. The club called me. Like, what the fuck happened?

[Mecca]

Oh, the actual club?

[Mona]

Yeah. Cause they all. They went and bought them. Like I said it, and they bought them. It's that big. Like, I sit with my girl Mia. My friend Mia. We have the same name, my middle name as Mia. Glamaholics. She owns Glamaholics. And I sat with it on my lap. Her team reached out. They sent some shit. It's like that.

[Mecca]

It's like that.

[Mona]

Sat with a nigga water. I just sipped the shit. Matter of fact, I don't even think Mia bag sat on my lap. I said to somebody, I need lip gloss. Somebody passed me my Glam Aholic makeup bag. That's what I use. And they reached out, you know what I mean? Cause the team don't know me. And Mia, you know what I mean? Had his parasocial relationship shout out to Mia, too. She's the best.

[Mecca]

I love that.

[Mona]

But it's huge. Even with some of the shots that people was taking at me, it was like, damn, why all these niggas hating on me? To be honest, I never got that much hate at one time. You know what I mean? And it was a lot. It wasn't just like, Boo Boo. With 10,000 followers, big dogs was coming. Everybody had something to say. And it was like, damn. But I said, to myself, like, damn, is this topish? Like, is this like you're doing well? Kind of. Cause this whole thing been like a cluster dream. Like a. What is it called?

[Mecca]

Cluster fuck.

[Mona]

A cluster fuck. Oh, no, no. What is a fever dream? That's what it's been.

[Jameela]

Fuck.

[Mecca]

I just wanted to cuss

[Mona]

is this whole thing has been like. Like, is this for real? You know what I mean? I think I got a little bit of imposter syndrome. I think it's hard not to have it where I come from. The way my mind works and the type of person I am. I had to kind of put my head down and just do it without looking. But doing it like that, it's like I look back and I had did all this. And it was like, I did all this shit and I've never like stopped, like, you know, like, okay, bitch, you know. Cause even the other day I was thinking, I'm like, yo, like I went viral. Like 2018, I think I tried podcasting in 2019. By 2020, I was on million dollars worth of gain. That was huge where I was at, you know what I mean? And then it's like, okay, I do my own podcast. I had some successes with it. And I really. My last podcast, I did, I got it to this point where it was doing so well. And then I just totally, like fucked it up. Like. Cause I didn't like it. I didn't like my team, I didn't like the company I was working with. I didn't like my production. So I literally just said, fuck this. So sometimes if I came in with a good attitude, we got some bangers. I would go viral still. But I didn't care legit. Some of the shows I would sit like this and talk. Cause I didn't give a fuck anymore. It was over. And it's crazy cause my fans realized it and they would say it to me and then I would be like, what the fuck you want me to do? And some of them left and some of them stayed. Like, I see what I to give up and how people could smell it on you and all that. And it's like to end up on Joe Button, it's like there's nothing higher than that. You know what I mean? Even with the Breakfast Club thing and knowing that that's not the job for me and I don't want to do that and all that. It's like I had to sit down like, bitch, you might have just snapped a little bit. Like you might have just did that. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Especially being a comic and doing it. You know what I mean? So it's like. It's just. I can't believe it. I legit can't believe it. And I feel like that's why it's so important to me to tell people in the ghetto that I think that's like, it's by design that you don't dream like that. It's by design that you don't see anything outside of this for yourself. Like that is on purpose. And sometimes you kind of fall victim to that and then you just keep it moving. So it's like, for me, I was a full felon by 21, so there is nothing else for me here. I'm a felon. You can make money in the street as a felon. You could be a construction worker and make some good money. Maybe you can work for. When I was a kid who hired felons, I think the post office or something, maybe you could be the mailman. But outside of that, if you're not selling Pam's a weed on the side, you're not gonna have anything. So it was like, that's how my mind worked. And I still wanted kids, I still wanted a family. So I just got deeper into the criminal lifestyle. That's why jail doesn't really like rehab.

[Mecca]

You rehabilitate people, just forces you into a cycle of institutional legislation.

[Mona]

You meet people that have better crimes and they teach you how to do better shit and faster shit, and you make a connection. Now you got this friend in LA and she got a plug and then you go over there. It's not, you know, it's just not what I think people think it is. And that's why I think people get so frustrated with their family members going back and forth. It's by design. It's supposed to happen that way. So it's almost like you have to be above average to get out of that shit. And a lot of us are just average people, you know what I mean? On top of the fact that, like, just being from the hood, having mental health shit, and people not taking medication or not thinking it's. You know what I mean?

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

And I legit everything. I feel like that the ghetto, like on the bad side of the ghetto, I am like, I fall victim to that. My father did 10 years. My grandmother's mother lost her mind in the 70s. Nobody took her anywhere. She just lost her mind. Nobody got her medicine like, this nigga could have been okay, probably, if she would have got an antipsychotic or Something, Nothing. She just sat in the room and went crazy. By the time I met her, you couldn't even really have a conversation with her. That made sense. You know what I mean?

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Like, I would talk to her, she would talk about how she ate lunch with Martin Luther King. It's crazy. I just cracked this joke to my mom because we call her. We affectionately. Her name was Pearl, but we call her Puggy. And I even had that tatted on me. And I said to my mom, well, yeah, you know, Puggie used to eat with Martin Luther King. And my mom's like, mashed potatoes. And I'm like, damn. Because she. That was what she talked about. And so, you know, I just, you know, knowing what I know now, I really think that the whole. The reason why this happened is because, like, the funny part is cool. But I'm supposed to be teaching people stuff. That's what I really think. Like, I'm supposed to, like, save the world. And that's an Aquarian thing. Anyway. We all think we gonna save everybody.

[Mecca]

Just come here, be the mother.

[Jameela]

But I think that's what comedy does by nature. Cause even when I was watching Dave Chappelle's most recent stand up special, I'm like, this nigga just told a whole story, but he layered in so much real shit with in the world and things like that. But it's funny. So people are locked in. And I think that that's, like, a gift that comics are able to do. We're able to really, like, blend and weave and, like, hit you on the top of the head with some shit. But it was funny. So it's like. But then you think about it later. Like, actually, yeah, you was talking to

[Mecca]

your little one, too. I retained that information.

[Mona]

Yeah, yeah. And that's what attracted me to both of y'. All. Because both of y' all would, like, be teaching me shit on TikTok. Because I, like, discovered TikTok recently. I just. I had it like, you know, my name is something. So if I was like, I put it on there, I got 200,000 followers. I don't have to post. Right, right. And then I'm like, I'm gonna try this. People getting money, and I try it. I make $3 every month. But it's like. And I don't really do, like, necessarily well on TikTok. I don't think I really get the. How the thing flows. But I, like, found all these young people, these smart. I'm like, look at these bitches. I like this. I just really I really enjoy, like, learning from a woman that's 10 years younger than me, 15 years. I just. I enjoy that. Like, I feel like we kind of fucking up on that with, like, bitches my age and women y' all age. I think it's like a weird gap. And I don't get it, child.

[Jameela]

They be a little mean sometimes.

[Mona]

They very, very mean. Very, like catty, like, you know, like, almost like we fighting for the same niggas or something.

[Jameela]

Yeah. And it's like we never listen. I don't ever feel a sense of competition with, like, anybody. But I understand there is, like, I guess, innate competition within, like, the entertainment space. But it's not us. It's always gonna be the people above us that forces that competition. But I hate that. A lot of times we feed into it. It's like, it's like if there is a Hollywood role and, you know, there's a black role, and this happens all the time. Even for, like, Scandal. This. What's her name? Kerry Washington.

[Mecca]

She was just.

[Jameela]

Kerry Washington was just talking about this. It was a black character who was going to be the lead of the show. Every black lady in America who was an actor was obviously going for it. Of course, y' all can either be fighting each other backstage or can be like, either one of us gets this, we all win.

[Mecca]

And that's.

[Jameela]

And I think. And that worked out for them. But sometimes because of ego and because of, like, your own self pride and self esteem, it's like, damn, but I want it. And it's like, that makes sense too. And I be like, I try to hold space for that as well. Cause like, I get it. It's like, damn, I wanted this to be my one. But it's like, it ain't always gonna be you, but it being your sister, you should be like, but she got that.

[Mecca]

And that's helping us too, outside the industry. Cause all of my first cousins are like, around your age and they are mean. No, I love them, but they're mean. You know, but it's like, I think it's definitely like a generational thing. I don't know exactly what the thing is. I think it's maybe being around, being outside, fighting all this.

[Mona]

I'll tell you what it is. First of all, people my age, we were raised very male centered. Y' all are the generation of, like, I could be single. This works for me. I'm working on myself. My skin routine is 45 minutes. Nobody has a 45 minute skin routine has a nigga dick to sucking kids to put down. Y' all didn't do that. People my age, a lot of us, we lived lives of wives. We were bored. Houses and cars and nigga paid the bills, but they didn't finish. And a lot of us never married. Or some of us did marry. And he wasn't a husband. He just was a man that lived there. And, like, that kind of jade you, in a way. And it's like, y' all make that single shit look fun. And y' all make it look like even with the like. And I don't know if y' all are young enough for this, but it's like, I remember the first thing with noticing I'm older than these bitches. That the besties, they hump each other in the club. Like, we never did that. Like, we never did that. The most you might do is if you want some whole shit, you selling some pictures.

[Jameela]

So y' all didn't twerk on your friends in the club?

[Mona]

Not like it wasn't a thing.

[Jameela]

And it's like they do be hunching

[Mecca]

in the club now, but not like. I feel like even that has changed a little bit. Cause I'm going out and, like, they be going in.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

I feel like when we was in college, the girls. Yeah.

[Jameela]

What they be doing?

[Mecca]

Like. Like, face to face.

[Jameela]

Like pussy.

[Mona]

That's why I say. I don't know if it's y'. All. I think it's a little younger. I think y' all started it. But the ones younger, it's extreme. Or even the whole, you, your bestie, you and your bestie go out and y' all scissor.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

I was like, hold on. What happened to a regular friend?

[Mona]

That's what I'm. So y' all are. Not really, but right under y'. All. But that's the first thing I remember where we're in a club and these bitches are dancing with each other. And I remember vividly remember saying to my girl, what the fuck are these people? Like, what are they doing? And don't get it fucked up. People my age, maybe if you sound a little coochie, you might got a little freaky with your friends trying to beg the rich nigga. The sex, you get attention, whatever. But I'm saying, just in general, that whole, like, we don't need a nigga. Yeah. We don't need men in this. That's. That's what that was, you know? And I feel like that a lot of women my age are jaded about it. And it's like, I think that once you get closed off to, like, the music and the clothes, and that's when that shit start. I never did that. I always liked what the younger people was. Look how I'm dressed now. Like, I don't dress.

[Mecca]

You look fly in the pantique, in the country shoes.

[Mona]

Thank you. I mean, I don't want to be. I never wanted to be, like, out of the loop like that. Like, even when people are like, oh, y' all young people. Like, even with street people. Yes, the street people are super. They seem more violent, but they're really not. Like, they're just as violent as we were. You know what I mean? It's like things progress like they were supposed to negatively or positively. And I understand that. That's how life goes. And I also understand that when I was 20 something, them bitches were saying, oh, them young bitches, them 80 baby bitches is like, it doesn't make any sense. I just rather be. I feel like the youth people, younger, that's who changes the world. That's the future. I don't want to be far from the future. I want to be taught shit. Like, yeah, I got so many. Even the people in my family. My little sister's up under me. All my little cousins are up under me. Like, I'm around young people a lot. I don't want to be. And then I still can listen to State Property or ojz, and I can hang with that, too. Sometimes. Even when I sit with Joe and I'm like, yo, these niggas old as shit. They're not tapped into everything yet. Like, we were talking about Gucci mane, and I almost got the impression that they were. That they didn't know. Gucci mane was hard. And I, like, stopped. Everybody was like, wait a minute. Everybody here knows that. He's like, fuck.

[Mecca]

What?

[Mona]

He just did Gucci with the belly. Like, yeah, let's be clear. And they're like, mona, nobody said that, but it's like, because y' all old.

[Jameela]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mona]

And y' all tribe called questioning. And I don't know if y'. All. I don't know if y' all realize. And again, I know that Joe is almost 50.

[Jameela]

I'm gonna say he approaching 50 for sure.

[Mecca]

Oh, I didn't know. Well, it looked good.

[Mona]

Yeah. You know how Joe. I know Joe. Oh. Cause he got that old, handsome look. Joe look to me. This is the best he ever looked. He is so handsome.

[Mecca]

You know how when be bald, they could be 25 or 45. You, like, really don't.

[Jameela]

But that salt is infiltrating that beard. See, the beard used to be. See, it used to be blacked out. That beard is all mostly salt now.

[Mona]

And he has old nigga freckles. His face is covered in freckles.

[Mecca]

Those are coming for me.

[Mona]

My.

[Mecca]

That's how I knew I was aging. I said, oh, my God, is that a fleck?

[Jameela]

My nose.

[Mona]

You get them beauty marks and them freckles.

[Jameela]

Dominique. I'm like, oh, here we go.

[Mona]

This shit. I love being a nigga. Like, I feel so. I am telling you. I just told. What did I tell you earlier, Shania? I said, yo, I feel so lucky. And she's like, well. Cause you're black. I'm like, yeah, nigga. Like, oh, my God. It could have been anything.

[Mecca]

Yeah, it's really fun here.

[Mona]

It's so decent.

[Jameela]

I like this side of things.

[Mona]

We do everything so much better. I mean, it is a little bit of a struggle. It's a little sad sometimes. Like the police, you know? Other than that, boy, we will turn the cookout up.

[Jameela]

Okay. Do we have a blast?

[Mecca]

We have a dance for everything.

[Mona]

Very annoyed by how inviting we are. I don't think I realized until recently

[Jameela]

we are too goddamn nice. And Chucky, Javi.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

A white boy has some white boy. I think his main and millions of followers. His main talent, I think, is the nae Nae. He does different variations. No, it's the percolator. He did.

[Jameela]

Saw a video.

[Mecca]

Did he just go into that party?

[Jameela]

Yes, I said, that's what I was.

[Mecca]

The first time seeing him.

[Mona]

He walks into it looks like it could be even a retirement home. Standing in the front, and all he does is the percolator. And the whole party turned around to the cameras out. They do the same.

[Jameela]

Whenever white people cross into a black organization, they get to stroll in and then they be like, oh, my God. You're like, here go.

[Mona]

The black dude, when he walked in, percolated, just percolating. Look at this.

[Mecca]

It's time for the percolator.

[Mona]

At the end, they asked him for pictures. They took pictures. I swear to God. They took pictures with this.

[Mecca]

And he just percolating.

[Mona]

Sweaty at that. And his percolator ugly.

[Jameela]

It's not.

[Mona]

It's not a smooth perk.

[Jameela]

And that's how you know you. You didn't grow up percolating.

[Mona]

No, you didn't.

[Jameela]

You learned the perk.

[Mona]

No, it's too much in you. You got too much in your shoulders was hidden.

[Jameela]

It's supposed to be you going, you

[Mona]

gonna knock that out to cat the shocking, you know? And then you gonna learn.

[Mecca]

You're gonna throw white boy out.

[Mona]

He's spicy white, too. He might be a little. Little Italian. Yeah, whatever. White with spaghetti sauce. That's what we say.

[Mecca]

Spaghetti sauce.

[Mona]

Yeah, Spicy white. And then you got regular spaghetti sauce. White. Whatever. I don't want to spend too much time on them, but, like, I just. I. I really feel lucky being black. I'm really not one of them black people. I'm not one of them. Like, oh, my God, When Will smacked Chris, right? The thing that bothered me the most online people said, I can't believe they did in front of all those white boy.

[Jameela]

Oh, my God. I said, oh, y' all really?

[Mona]

Smith is rich as fuck, and we supposed to care about you some cootie

[Mecca]

woonies, and he should have did it again. Why is y'.

[Jameela]

All. Yeah, a lot of black people are very, like, respectability blacks, and they really be like, oh, my gosh, we can't look like this in front of the white. And it's like, why? And there are some black creators that will even. And I get it. Brand safeness. I get it. But they will water themselves down so much to where they won't even say nigga or, like, address their black audience because they don't want to alienate white folks so that they be, you know, will appear more brand friendly. And for me, while I will pay attention to being brand friendly, I'm not going to unblacken myself. I'm, like, overly black, unapologetically. I don't give a fuck. I'm black. And it's always gonna be like that.

[Mona]

I couldn't imagine. I don't know if it's because I'm so pale or what, but I just could not imagine, like, gearing my life around that or thinking. And it's like, it comes from this place of, like, you seeking approval of n. That will never approve you. Like, you just keep approval. They'll never want you to, hoping they don't like you. Bitch, it don't matter what you do. Just you they don't like. So why do you think that it matters what you do in front of them? If you could be the best of the best, you could act just like them, mirror them. You're still not gonna be welcome. You know what's funny? I've been finding that on TikTok, where, like, I didn't realize, like, how much Asians do that, like, to get that white man approval.

[Jameela]

Oh, Asians are the model minority. Oh, they shucking Job better than anybody. They've actually perfected the shucking job.

[Mecca]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you'll run down on other Asian creators calling it out. I be watching all the brothers calling their people out. Like, y' all are tap dancing bad right now. Let me shut up and just watch.

[Jameela]

Look at y'. All. Race, awards and things.

[Mecca]

They be colorism issues, too.

[Jameela]

Yeah. Oh, for sure. Asians love to be like.

[Mecca]

And the girlies, they be using black people references. Like. And you know black people, they have no problem calling this out. We're gonna do the same thing.

[Jameela]

Like, okay, you better get on that and win.

[Mecca]

I knew my for you page was so black because everybody on my for you page wasn't mad that Will Smith slapped Crystal. They didn't give a fuck. They was like, he's fine. Yeah.

[Jameela]

It's like. I don't know, like, in the black community, it's like. I don't know. I don't feel like to. I don't like to overly explain things that happen in the black community either. Cause it's like, I don't want you to get comfortable and think that you know us. You know what I mean? But that's just some regular ass. Like.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying? Sometimes people get slapped.

[Mona]

Yeah. And it's just like your other.

[Jameela]

Yeah. And it'd be like, we're not about

[Mona]

to just, like, call the police. Yeah. It happens just like how he did it.

[Jameela]

Like.

[Mona]

Yeah. So you don't even have to get smacked again.

[Jameela]

And no one's confused. Exactly. So we're like, oh, that's why. Because he was all right, cool.

[Mona]

It's nothing. And people still trying to figure out why the said it.

[Jameela]

And you lucky that didn't happen at the Source Awards, nigga. They would have been on your ass Joaning you for the rest of the fucking night. You wouldn't have been able to finish posting that shit.

[Mecca]

Because he sure did finish. And they what? Remember Judd. Judd Apatow was like, he could have died, bro.

[Jameela]

When they got to doing all that hooping and hollering, could have died. I said, white people are so dramatic. What? God damn.

[Mona]

Yeah. But anyways, I think that. And I say this to my friends a lot, like, on some real shit. Every negro in here, if you were white. And I'm talking about average white, which is mediocre. Average white people are mediocre for sure. It doesn't matter what they have. They're mediocre because there's not this huge push to do. And that's no disrespect.

[Jameela]

They don't have to be anything other than that.

[Mona]

You ain't gotta do much. So a lot of them, you know, you go to high school with these motherfuckers. They on drugs, snorting, da, da da. Their dad has this business. And they good. They 30 and they good because daddy puts them in line or whatever. But honestly, every Negro in here, if you were white and mediocre, no talent to speak of, C student, and you grew up in this country where your ancestors owned the cool ones ancestors, you wouldn't think you wouldn't feel a little. Cause I know for a fact I would be at the light. Stop cutting me off, nigger. I know I would. I know I would be cool with niggas. But the minute you think you at the kfc, first of all, Shaquita black bitch, I know I'm coming like that. Like, why would. If you grew up here as a white person, why wouldn't you. The media has been spitting out these people are violent and. Exactly. You have been being told these people are kind of fucked up, but we deal with them. Really. Your whole, you know, life, independent, God forbid. You fucking 60 and you grew up in the 60s and shit, you think, come on, if you were white, would you say N? Yes, you would.

[Mecca]

I mean, it's like that with every generation, though, if you think about it. Cause that's how black people treat gay people. Yeah, I said that's how black people treat gay people. It's just a matter of like. Well, I don't want to shake the D. They mad at Kev right now. But I'm saying, like, when n get

[Jameela]

a chance to get some privilege, you've

[Mecca]

been told so bad your entire time. Now we got folks who can openly be themselves. Yeah, we're cool with you. But the moment you say, like, to your point moment, you do something wrong. Here we go now, y' all calling people the P word.

[Jameela]

P and F. F and P and

[Mecca]

F. F and P. I almost like the P word.

[Mona]

I have to say something about that. I have apologized and I apologize to the gays again because I got real comfortable with that punk.

[Mecca]

Real comfortable real quick.

[Mona]

And it's crazy because as a kid, I'm this old, when I would call my cousins punk, you know, you go to your grandma house, y' all got the same grandma. I was the oldest. When I would call the little boys punk, my grandma would flip. Because her generation punk meant homosexual. My generation punk meant you were scary, like you were a bitch ass nigga.

[Jameela]

I'M gonna say the mean is definitely flipping chains over time.

[Mecca]

The homosexual. But my mom quick with a punk.

[Jameela]

With a U of punk. I was gonna say punk, like you're a punk ass. It used to be like, scary, like you're not gonna. You're not a bounce, like you're a sucker. But I think the P O N K was more so like an accent thing. Because folks in New Orleans and in Florida, like they're. Because they country is shit. It just turned into the P.O.

[Mona]

listen. And I remember I used to be so tired of my girl. I'm like, look, I'm not calling him gay. Like, please, bitch. My girl was so crazy, but I don't know why. First of all, love the F word. Never called a gay man the F word. If I was arguing or going through something with a gay man, I'm talking about his shoes, his hair. His hair. I'm sorry.

[Mecca]

I tried to keep a straight face.

[Mona]

Love the F word, what I'm called. But it was something that I call straight men. But even while I'm saying that, I'm calling what these people are a diss. So, yes, it's wrong, it's hurtful, it don't make sense. I go live with this little boy. He's. Cause I always went live and talked to the people, whether it was 10 people or a thousand. And he cried to me. He was from Dale from Alabama. And he said when he used to get chased home in like middle school, whether they call him a nigger or the F word, it felt the same. And that shit fucked me up. And I'm like, what? Like, it's like, I can't be a part of that. I dropped F that day. Never said it again. Right. Do I miss it? Yes. All the words that are nasty, yes, I do miss saying them because I think we're allowed to say retard again. I don't wanna now.

[Mecca]

It came back with a vengeance.

[Jameela]

Come back. I don't know if we just allowed this. I don't know.

[Mona]

It's one thing that. It's probably the one thing I could say that Trump did in our mind.

[Mecca]

No, really.

[Jameela]

Because it did come back in that room.

[Mecca]

It was okay to say when I was a kid. I remember that's definitely something you say. Then by middle school, they was like, yeah, all through college. And I do think it was Trump that brought it back. Because I feel like the last couple years I've been like, wait, you just gonna say that?

[Mona]

Yeah, I know what he ready to bring back next nigger

[Jameela]

she's back.

[Mecca]

Well, it's on the way.

[Jameela]

The day I hear that on tv, I'm gonna be like, well, guys, pick your plantation, y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Jameela]

It's over.

[Mona]

I keep saying I don't even. We'll talk about that later. But no, I did this video, and I'm talking about Dwight Howard, and I had to say punk probably 23 times, and it went viral. I got a couple fan pages now shout out to y'. All. Y' all are the bestest. And they, like, getting numbers and all that. They doing pretty well or whatever. But one of them, she was, like, dying in the comments. Cause they. They. People were upset about the punk thing or whatever. And I remember I messaged her like, yo, you don't gotta do that for me. Like, you don't have to delete it and you don't have to, like, debate people. Like, they don't. Like, I said it. I shouldn't have said it. And I went. That's the thing that, like, frustrates me, I think, with us is, like, it's so easy for me to say apologize, say, yo, I shouldn't have did that. I don't. You know, that was corny. This is why it's like, yo, I googled one time how to apologize, how not to apologize. And it's like, because people.

[Mecca]

That's what Kim Burrell just said. I'm sorry.

[Mona]

People don't know how to apologize.

[Mecca]

Yes.

[Mona]

People apologize with excuses. People apologize with gaslighting. People apologize with telling you it's really your fault for you mad that I did. It's real simple. I shouldn't have did this. This is why I shouldn't have did it. I'm sorry if I hurt. Blah, blah, blah. And I won't do it again. It's a real simple thing. 2021, I got canceled because I said on my podcast, I'm a huge David Chappelle fan. David Chappelle was viral about what he said about trans people on his show. He keeps being viral about the same. Some of the things. But I'm a die hard Chappelle fan, and I got on my podcast and I said with my whole chest, I don't really, you know, a lot of what he said didn't bother me. But I'm not gay or trans, so I get that. Also, as a black woman, I don't feel supported by gays either. I was talking about white gays, but I didn't specify. And they whooped my ass. 72 hours.

[Mecca]

You need to be specific with some

[Mona]

of the stuff 72 hours and it was like, it wasn't, hey, you hurt me with this. It was like, I want it to be illegal for light skinned people to get on the Internet because they are the dumbest people out.

[Mecca]

I mean that happens every time when you're light skinned.

[Jameela]

You do need to be double safe because we are still light skinned bitches. At the end of the day, we're the most. So I'll be like, damn, I really like, I can't, I can't play too much about certain.

[Mona]

You know, there is nobody hating more and I don't care. I'm not stopping playing. In fact, not only am I not going to stop playing, I will call you a black ass. It rolls off my tongue and I know it's wrong, but I don't give a. We been. I've been doing this for a long time. Like I've been doing this for a long time and it never, I have never not gave it up like that any. It. I was silly. So it's like people think in my community you're soft if you like.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

And I'm, I'm gonna show you I'm not soft. That's what I did my whole life. So it was like yes, you call me a white bitch, I called you a black bitch. Like straight like that, like, so it was like for me, like the whole like you light skin and you can't say shit. Shit, it's hard. It's a little hard for me, you know what I mean? I ain't gonna lie to you, you know, But I do understand my privilege for having light skinned. I understand the pretty privilege I struggle with, but I do understand it, right? In our culture, light skin is supposed to be prettier. So I apparently had pretty privilege whether I felt any of that coming up or not, you know what I mean? But. And I also love my people to the point that I understand how it's harder for my sister that's darker than me. Simple. Yeah, I know that for a fact. I'm driving down the street, she driving down the street, she'll get pulled over first, she'll get beat the up first. Even though I'm the one with pounds in my drone, pounds of weed. Like, I get that, but at the same time you kind of, you don't have to get it. But you need to know that I was bullied and harassed for this skin. Like I went through shit for having this in the ghetto and that was it. I just had this like, I didn't pick it. I Don't know why. My mother black, my father black. I'm pale as shit. You know what I mean? That's just what happened.

[Mecca]

I think that's the part that is like, well, what you want me to do?

[Mona]

Die, bitch? And it's all gonna say, yes.

[Mecca]

I really said that. I was like, do you want me to kill myself?

[Mona]

Yes, they do. I am not what they do. Literally, dawg. It's. And I don't wanna. Cause I don't wanna get all the way off track when that happened. And they were dragging me, dragging me. And being that they were dragging me by my light skin and my hair, my gut, whatever. I didn't see it at first. So I was just going back. We were just fighting, you know what I mean? And my mother, who's never been to a show, who does not call. My mother didn't call me about shit I did in middle school when she was supposed to. So something like this, for her to call me is a big deal. And she was like, yo, you hurt their feelings. Them gay people have been supporting you, building you up. On. Especially on that Twitter, you heard, they feel they're hurt. My mom's a Twitter type of bitch. She like, yo, that's.

[Mecca]

I love when the older ladies be on Twitter, and you could always tell it's an older lady.

[Mona]

And they be deep. Well, my mom gets suspended on Twitter. She wanted them. My mother is the smartest person I know. My mother is real. Like, I was raised woke. I didn't have to go to college for that. Or I was raised by, like, really woke women. My grandmother, she was caught up on color, like a lot of bitches that was born in the 40s. And she used to say, y' all too red not to know your history here. Y' all too light to not know. So everything was just constantly. You know, you ain't that light. Skin don't mean nothing. You ain't cute. Like, it was. We was, like, raised, like, opposite. Like, I remember being, like, 6 or 7, and my grandma had a. A painting of a slave ship, a diagram, and I thought it was ants on a log. And I said, those answers. No, those are people. And that is the Atlantic, North Atlantic slave trade. And I remember distinctly being a little kid saying, well, where did they go to the bathroom on each other? Well, what if they were having a baby? They had a baby right there.

[Jameela]

Okay?

[Mona]

The baby they make, they threw them in the water.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Like six years old. My grandma. Like, some of them were bed warmers. My grandmama go there. But I grew up like that. My grandma would rent. My grandmother would hire African drummers. Every Kwanzaa. We in dashikis. Like, I was raised like, so, like. And on top of the fact that I'm in the house with my aunt who's a therapist, light skinned green eyes. My mother, who is a lpn. Light skinned green eyes. My grandmother, who is a lpn and a demon. And they're talking nonstop about what's happening in the government and the demon. Yes.

[Jameela]

Okay.

[Mona]

They're not talking about no fucking WB bullshit. Like these bitches talking about what's going on, like in the world. That's what I was raised by. Like, couldn't wait till I could jump in their conversation and keep up. Even still now that's the only conversation I'm nervous to jump in. Cause them bitch is smart. For real.

[Mecca]

Yeah. And they know what they're talking about. Yeah.

[Jameela]

That's how it is with my dad. It was very much like I grew up hearing him call white people crackers like that. That's such a regular term for me. Because you're what? My dad.

[Mona]

You have a dad? Oh my God.

[Mecca]

You have a dad. Yeah. This girl in our friend group in college wanted us to kick Jameela out the friend group. Cause she had a dad. That's a true story, I swear.

[Mona]

What the fuck? What's that bitch name?

[Jameela]

Yeah, we not. We knock her.

[Mona]

You Shaquita. That's. That's some real.

[Mecca]

She said she was not like us.

[Jameela]

She had like, Damn. But yeah, he.

[Mona]

She's not like us.

[Jameela]

He was very, like, very woke. And that's how I became so like, woke. And it was so funny.

[Mona]

What a blessing, right? Yeah.

[Jameela]

And it's funny because when I was in high school and people don't realize this, and this is when our age starts to show. This is when I start to feel like an old bitch. When we was in high school, this is pre woke. And people don't realize there was a pre and post. This was pre woke. I'm talking about all the words we just said was in rotation for everybody.

[Mona]

Right?

[Jameela]

And I'm the woke bitch in the room. And it's like, hey.

[Mecca]

And that's why y' all be having old tweets coming out from 2011.

[Jameela]

And so it's just so funny. It's just. It's so funny now seeing. Cause even black folks around that time was horror.

[Mona]

I want my coffee, nigga. Don't slide it in quietly. Give me my shit. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Jamila.

[Jameela]

No, you Good.

[Mona]

Thank you.

[Jameela]

It's so funny seeing a lot of black people now, like, step into politics, which I love. But it's like, bro, I remember N was not on that shit at all. Like, I'm talking about didn't give a fuck, didn't want to care. And I'm like, bro, it was a very jarring experience being one of the only people who really gave a fuck about that woke shit. But I'm talking about. We was watching Roots early. They put that Roots on. I knew Kunta Kinte before. I knew a lot of these niggas.

[Mona]

And then you from down South. Cause it's like, with me, I never fucked with the south because it was like, first of all, why the fuck are we going down there if the Klan down there? You know what I mean?

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

And then I remember me and my best friend. Cause we ran the streets fast. So we was, like, catching planes, going places. And we had a layover in Memphis, and we fought with this. We stayed in this hotel. And every staff member was black and every guest was white. And we was treated like shit by them niggas. And we had never experienced nothing like that. So by the end, by the time where the nigga take you to the airport, that boy. The shut the shuttle. We is. I mean, we're put out.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Like, yo, we at the bar. They serving the white people first. We could not believe it. Like, yo, are y' all okay?

[Jameela]

A lot of black folks in the south, because that's very. Like, a lot of black folks won't really make it an issue day because they'd rather, like, just go about their day. And I think, like, there's. It's different type of black folks, for sure. My family, though, are. They never gave a fuck. They've never been scared of white people. They don't give a fuck. We've gotten into so many altercations with my family. I love them because they'd be like. And then my dad, loud as shit. So we get anxious when he get to yelling, prick. And I'm like, oh, God. Oh, we finna get into it. Don't let him and his sisters be together. We didn't. Oh, it's been. They cut up. So for me, I never grew up being afraid of white people. I knew. I knew how they could get. I knew to be aware. I knew to watch. But I never gave a. About, like, trying to impress him. Like we was talking about earlier, like, trying to, like, you know, be. You know, like, let me be.

[Mona]

Hold the white folks.

[Jameela]

Let me nah Hell, no, I don't give a. And then it'd be funny, like, you know how you be talking about white people? And it'd be like, bro, is somebody white? I would look like, I don't give a damn.

[Mona]

I said, white people.

[Jameela]

I never cared what.

[Mecca]

I definitely got in trouble for that. Because by my family leaving Louisiana and then going to California, like, my grandmother had dementia. And when I moved to Texas, I knew that already. I just gotta find you on the top context. She didn't. I mean, yeah, she didn't remember why that I moved to Texas. So every time I would talk to her, she's like, why the fuck did

[Mona]

you go back to Texas?

[Mecca]

Like, she would be fucking confused every single time. And we thought it was so funny. She said, I done left. But why would you go back? I'm just like, it's different now. It's a little bit cooler. But, like, the way they used to talk about white people at my grandmother's house was very different than white people were talked about when I was at home. And I feel like. Cause my mom was just a little bit more aware. I remember I got in trouble at school for saying something crazy that I absolutely heard. I think I said, like, white people, they stink or just something stupid. When I was in second grade and I got in so much trouble because I was in class full of white kids. And my mom was like, the shit that they say at your grandma's house

[Jameela]

you cannot repeat at school, man. I tell you, I stayed getting in trouble in school. And the thing is, in the beginning, I started getting in trouble. But then once they realized I was never gonna stop being on their neck, I think everybody started to get, like, a little afraid of me in that school. They would be like, you're crazy. Oh, I remember they know this bitch gonna be on her neck.

[Mecca]

It was my aunt had said, I don't respect white people. I was trying to remember. I said, no, it was deeper than stink. Cause I got in so much trouble. I said, I don't respect white people. Oh, bitch. My teacher about lost it.

[Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Mecca]

Can you imagine me at seven and her just saying. I was like, I don't respect white people. Serious face.

[Mona]

And in reality, she should have ignored you. That's not something you should have got a show for or called your mom for. Cause you're a little kid. You tell them something. We should respect all people, honey. But that white bitch, that should pinch her spirit. And that's why she tried to get your ass whooped. That was her whole Goal to get you beat.

[Mecca]

Yeah. And you didn't. My mom just told me not to say it again.

[Mona]

Mm. Yeah.

[Mecca]

But she told me I could think it.

[Mona]

We moved. We moved to the suburbs. And it was like go time with us. Everybody, it was set it off. And that motherfucker. We all had run ins. It was always some shit. My mom had a gun. She used to put that bitch in the book bag and walk to the neighbors to talk to them. It used to be so funny watching this city bitch try to handle this suburban shit. You know, a city motherfucker walk through your yard, they don't feel better, not give a damn. Like, I don't know. And I remember just like. Like I would like when I first got to suburbs. I would like, I would have like a white friend for a summer white. And every friendship was the same. Like they always was real. Just. And like. Or cut me off or they would hurt my feelings. So it was like real quick. I was like, yo, we really aren't the same. Like, this is.

[Jameela]

Them white folks would judge you. I remember a white bitch judged me for having pork chops for dinner. I said, all right, bruh.

[Mona]

What do you mean?

[Jameela]

Yeah, I guess it was a black piece of meat. I think pork chops is black meat.

[Mona]

I went to the white kids house and I put on baps. And it was like her little brother was like, I'm about to tell mommy you're watching chocolate movies. And I was like, what is it? They went right over here.

[Jameela]

Bitch, you don't watch these black heifers on these goddamn tv, though.

[Mona]

Oh, yeah, it be like that, I'm telling you. And it's like, I don't know, man. And it. Oh, God. Like I have. I struggle with it because it's like I am Muslim by faith. I've been Muslim my whole life. There are millions of white Muslims. You cannot hate white people. But they are. Are a diff little. You know what I mean? They're different. I have a white friend, her name's.

[Mecca]

I got mom's wife.

[Mona]

Okay, look at us progressive.

[Jameela]

Me quiet on the ex.

[Mecca]

Husband was black, though. My God sisters are half black, but they're basically white, so.

[Mona]

So she got the asymmetrical body.

[Jameela]

No, no, no, no.

[Mecca]

She's a white woman. And that's the one thing I do with about her. She's a white woman.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Mecca]

I like white people who be like around black people, but it's like, I'm white.

[Mona]

Oh my God. I. The wiggly thing is like, I don't like, have y' all seen a new challenge when they, like, they go flashbacks when they was wiggers?

[Jameela]

Yes.

[Mona]

I think that's racist.

[Jameela]

And I said, I'm telling.

[Mona]

This started to smell racist because they leave all their bad habits with the wiggly. So what are you saying?

[Jameela]

Yeah, I said, so you was. You was stealing when you was a wigger, and now you work at Corporate

[Mona]

America or like, you was addicted to drugs. It's all, why. Why we got involved?

[Mecca]

Why you.

[Jameela]

Why you.

[Mona]

I want.

[Jameela]

I want stay wigged out. Actually. Don't go back. Stay.

[Mecca]

Some of them do you know how when they.

[Jameela]

I wasn't raising my cousin, Baby mama didn't. She's done being a wigger now. I still don't with you.

[Mona]

Oh, oh, she's. She had, like, a fa. Wigger face.

[Jameela]

And now she got. Let me not put my family business out there, please. But you know what you got.

[Mona]

Listen, I don't. I just. Oh, God. I remember when I first started doing this, I used to think, like, I don't want to alienate the people that like me or whatever. But it's like, man, fuck that. If you like me, you should know that y'. All.

[Jameela]

Fuck. I was gonna say, y' all got my white man's. And that be so funny. The white people that fuck with me, they be in the comments, like, exactly. Whack em again. I'm like. And that's why I fuck with y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Jameela]

Y' all know I ain't gonna stop.

[Mecca]

I love when they be like. Now, I don't usually comment because I know I'm not supposed to, but X, Y, and Z, I agree with this. That has me crying all the time. I had a white woman in Texas run down on me and ask me if she'd give me a hug. I was shocked.

[Mona]

No, but thank you for.

[Mecca]

I would've been like, oh, my God. Hello. And I comment. And actually, I did remember her comment. That was.

[Mona]

Cause, you know, that's crazy.

[Mecca]

I remembered her comment because I noticed she was white. And I was like, don't usually see y' all around this side of town. So when she came up to me and told me, I said, I actually know exactly who you are. That's hilarious.

[Mona]

That's crazy. Yeah, crazy. I. I don't know. I just. I. I'm locked in with these people to the point that some of these meet and greets, I look down and I go, mimi, three, four, seven. Because we've been talking for six years.

[Mecca]

We just.

[Mona]

I followed them back. I saw you have that baby. I remember you lost your husband. Like, it's a lot.

[Jameela]

Yeah, I.

[Mona]

And I don't want to like. Cuz I feel like she watches everything I do and I love her so much. But I finally met like this white girl that followed me forever. And I mean legit. I don't care. I'mma just say it like. Because then I know you won't know that I'm talking about you.

[Jameela]

Because like, can you believe it? The business I'd been about to start lived in my head for two years. But last night, I finally bought the domain on Wix. Took me 90 seconds and suddenly it was real. I even used WIX Harmony, wix's AI website builder, to create a full website in minutes. Didn't even have to stress about security, privacy, or any of that technical stuff. It all came included. That's two years of stalling. One night of progress don't wait. Like I did go to wix.com domains

[Mona]

when I first met her. I picked her up like that's how much I couldn't believe. And I hate to be corny like this, but like, I'm very generous, right? And I think it was my birthday or something. Every tom paper gave me cash. I handed it to her. I just gave it to her, you know what I mean? Cause it's like from following her and her never coming to see me, like, I know that financially, she. You know what I mean? She go through it or whatever. She from the hood or whatever, but she ruined that moment for me. So. But she said nigga. She said nigga. She said nigga like once or twice. Like I could have cried. It hurt my feelings so bad. I was so scared.

[Mecca]

After you slid her to 20.

[Mona]

I have been sliding 20s. I have been sliding her 20s for. For at least an hour. And it's crazy because when I first

[Mecca]

told, I wasn't expecting the story to take that turn.

[Mona]

When I first told this story, somebody in my production shout out to Ebony. Ebony's my everything. And Ebony was like, yeah, Mona was sliding her 20s off. Cause Ebony gonna miss. Ebony gonna miss anything. It ain't no paper. That bitch probably counted what she got. Cause I had completely. Because that's my. That's how I am.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

And it's like, I don't do that. I don't feed people online and post it or give people something. I don't do shit like that. So it's like, like you wouldn't know that about me. And then Ebony kind of knows. Not to say like that, but I don't think we were on camera, but when it hit me, I'm like, though I was giving this money and yeah, she was like, she was talking about something like yeah, that, that. And I was like, oh my God, bro. Like it crushed me so bad. My body like, my body leaned over. I'm like, damn dog. Cuz it's like, you know you're not

[Jameela]

supposed to be there, but you know,

[Mona]

and the thing about it is North Philly, white people, Philadelphia, white people, hood white people, they say nigga up there. That's just like when Fat Joe, like Fat Joe has refused to not say nigga. He don't care what we do.

[Jameela]

Mind you, I didn't know Fat Joe wasn't black until like last. I thought he was biased because of the audacity of it all that Puerto Rican.

[Mona]

Oh, Puerto Rican.

[Mecca]

Not even an afro. He didn't have an afro.

[Mona]

He light skinned Puerto Rican.

[Jameela]

And the thing is like back in the day, if you just. When you blend in and you don't make shit obvious, we don't question too much shit. But because we're in like the post woke era, we start really looking at

[Mecca]

n a little different pictures from when he was.

[Jameela]

Hold on, you're not black Rickin'.

[Mona]

That's not all it is. Fed Joe comes from an era and I was there. Where in rap you had to be a certain type of tough. So you had to either be tough or at least fake it. Meaning you're connected to tough niggas. There's gangsters around you. Everything I've ever heard about Fat Joe on the street, Fat Joe was a real street nigga. Fat Joe was a restricted street nigga outside of entertainment. So that's number one. Why you can say and do what you want. Because motherfuckers die or get shot or get beat up. That's number one. And then under that is like we don't know or we didn't really pick or whatever.

[Jameela]

And a lot of people up north really let Hispanics say.

[Mecca]

I mean, same thing in California.

[Jameela]

That's not a, that's not a thing down here though. We don't really.

[Mona]

Because I think we.

[Jameela]

It's like you, you too close to the Klan neighborhood to just be, you know, flipping and wishing. We got to, we got to make

[Mona]

sure we got to actually see.

[Jameela]

Yo, let me hold on. It get weird.

[Mona]

I would see it in school where you're so young, you don't really know that. That shit is ridiculous. But even then like. Cause the way we were came up I knew that you didn't say that, but I didn't necessarily, like, take it to a point where it's like, I need to say something to them. By the time I went to jail, it was like, you can't say that around me. And I would check the shit out of me. And the white bitches in jail swear they tough. So it was like that kind of caused me issues sometimes in jail. But I still was always giving up like that. Stop talking around me like that before I punch you. It was always like that. And then it was like with the Puerto Rican girls. It was like, they. I look at Puerto Rico, what'd they say? I always say, a scholar once said, I think it's really Bernie Mac, that Puerto Ricans are Dominicans, just niggas that can swim. So it's like they're niggas. Even with the Cardi thing, it's like, I don't know. I really don't know how I feel, bro. I grew up around Puerto Ricans. Say nigga. Where I'm from, that's not even a. I couldn't even imagine saying to a Puerto Rican from North Philly, don't say nigga. Them. They would probably. Nigga. What? Like, they don't. They don't.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I remember being in LA with my friend Munir. Munir owns a clothing line I love called Scumbags. Munir and the girl I'm with get into this huge argument about saying N and saying fool. Cause his whole thing was, y' all don't like us to say N. Y' all shouldn't say fool. And they just went at it. But they both two Cali niggas.

[Jameela]

This one you got to start calling N stupid. Cause they're not the fucking same bitch. Like, you're dumb, fool.

[Mecca]

But it wasn't Mexican, ot. Cause he's the one who says the N word. One of the other.

[Jameela]

I think he recently apologized. Cause he realized that she wasn't going over.

[Mecca]

But, yeah, one of the other Mexican rappers. And again, this is just me and other people business on the fou U page. They was like, man, we got the word fool. You don't have to say that because it stands in place how we use. So it's like, why are you doing that?

[Mona]

Essay kind of played out.

[Jameela]

But fool for sure is still a essay fool.

[Mecca]

And one thing about them, them SoCal, they have their own accent. Like when their parents from Mexico, but they're from la. They have their whole.

[Mona]

They have their own little accent, their own haircuts. And everything.

[Mecca]

Listen, I used to talk to a Mexican from la. We could be like, you're so beautiful, Mommy.

[Mona]

What's that funny haircut that they were wearing?

[Mecca]

The Edgar.

[Mona]

The Edgar?

[Mecca]

Yeah. Same with the Egger.

[Mona]

I think I'm f. With Edgar.

[Jameela]

I think they still run that.

[Mecca]

They run the. Especially the Young Bulls.

[Mona]

It was a rapper that you got. You sound like a Philly. You said Young Bulls. Oh, yeah. You nailed that. You know a lot.

[Mecca]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've been watching Swag video. You feel me? Thank you.

[Mona]

Oh, shout out to Swart. When you go up top, you got to run that, cuz. That's that cuz. Sometimes y' all come up there, nice Young Bull or John, and it's like. Like, but you that bul.

[Mecca]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Mona]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I. But this how I think when you got a certain amount of confidence. Because we literally was said to Fed Joe. All right, bro, like, just gave up. Like, okay, yeah.

[Jameela]

What you want me to do? I can't un. Listen to the goddamn records. And it's just like, I. At some point, like, with. With being black, there is a level of exhaustion, too. Like, I'm not gonna, like, fight all you niggas for, you know, certain shit, but it is, like, one of those things where it's like, if you are around me, I am not a cool black. Don't ever think I'm a cool black. Like, I'm not. I'm a strict black.

[Mona]

Not doing it yet.

[Jameela]

I'm a strict black, and I'm a mean black.

[Mona]

Yeah. My personal opinion, and I'm done. I'm not gonna beat us in the head with my love for whites. At the end of the day, I feel like. And this is, you know, for anybody watching white that loves me. I love you too, ikea. Yeah. I feel like cheap ass furniture.

[Mecca]

No, I'm playing.

[Mona]

If you don't have a certain empathy or a certain, like, damn, that's fucked up. Like, that's really all I need. I need at least for you to scroll on the page, turn the TV on, and say, like, what the fuck? Like, you had to be aware that this is wrong. And at this point, I need you to be kind of verbal about it. Like, it doesn't have to be your status every day. It doesn't have to be. But people around you need to know. White people around you need to know that you think this shit is foul. That's happening to these people across the country.

[Jameela]

Quick little repost you know what I'm saying? It's actually so easy these days. Like, you could do your repost. You know what I'm saying? Do little shit like that. But I need you to be like, this is fucking crazy, man. Yeah, should be fucking happening.

[Mecca]

The world's fucked up, man.

[Jameela]

And, like, I need that white aggression. I like white aggression when I see them. Whenever you see a white person on the timeline going off about some shit, I'll be like, okay.

[Mona]

Depending on how they make me feel. Cause some of them makes me feel like you just want to go viral with this and don't like it for sure.

[Jameela]

Shucking job, too.

[Mecca]

They sh for us.

[Mona]

Some of them sh for us. I hate the white people that do that.

[Jameela]

All day long.

[Mona]

It's always like, a random white boy with a big beard. Like, y', all. Them big beard.

[Jameela]

The way I thought of three immediately.

[Mona]

You white, big beard, man. I don't know if y' all got hidden in them beards or what, but, like, please, can you talk about something white one day? God damn. You don't have nothing going on.

[Jameela]

People, literally, them the ones that get paid per video.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Jameela]

I'm talking about the ones that's like, they really don't even got no account. They're like, this shit is so fucked up. I had to make a fucking video about this goddamn shit, bro. Are you fucking kidding me? Have you. I'm like, oh, my God. Look at him angry.

[Mona]

You know what, Twizz? Tizzy. You don't know him. Twizzy or Tizzy. He a white guy, got a real sharp haircut. I flirted with him in his dm. He got a real sharp haircut. This is how you might know Tizzy or Twizzy, whatever the fuck his name is. He's somebody that. His whole platform is dedicated. Help me find this person. Anything that happens. And it's not just black, but a lot of it is black. But with him, what fucked me up is that he used to be racist. And he talked about it one day. He was like, yo, I used to talk like this. And I said. I was like, what the fuck would make you? And that's what made me like, whoa, now, like, how much were you making back then? Cause you can make way more money being pro, nigga. As a white person.

[Jameela]

Absolutely. They do it all the time.

[Mona]

Oh, my God. When white people figure out how much we love, when y' all do, like, even speak to us, we're fine.

[Jameela]

And the black people be in the comments hooping and hollering and Praising. I be like, oh, y' all so damn easy.

[Mona]

Two nae naes. You could come to the. I don't give a fuck. With nobody.

[Mecca]

I hate to come. You can come to the cookout. They love the cookout. I've never invited no one to the cookout but my mother.

[Jameela]

We haven't. We've closed the cookouts, y'. All. We actually don't even have them anymore. I'm sorry.

[Mona]

This white girl randomly. I'm on live. And she was like, yo, I saw your. Something about when you said we could come to the cookout, and I was with 10 laugh emojis. I said that a year and a half ago. I don't think you laughed. Like, why did you remember that? Like that? Like, I don't think you liked it much. Cause I said it regular. Didn't go viral. I just was like. Cause what I said didn't even make any sense, really, when I think about it. Cause, like, with me, it's a lot of tone and how it come out if you slow it down. That shit ain't make no sense. But it's funny, right? And I say something like, you can't come to our fucking cookout. It's koofies at our cookout. Makes no sense. Because all black people don't wear kufis. All black people are not Muslim, and white people are Muslims. But she remembered it. But it's like. Because it's stung a little bit and you still can't with them highlights. Come to the. I don't care for you to come to the fucking. In real life, my daughter turned one. In the hood, you have at least one Elmo twerking, one Power Ranger, two cakes. Popcorn machine, Water, ice. I kid you not, Snow machine. I have no job. My daughter had a snow machine, a popcorn machine. She had a clown named Jazzy. Jazzy is such a big clown in Philadelphia. If you've never hired Jazzy and you were outside from the years of. I'm gonna say, 95 to 2015, you wasn't getting no money. Jazzy is 78. And this bitch did every popping party in North. I shit you not. This is before the Party Planner era. Yeah, this is back when we did that part. And you hired the characters, Right? And my daughter got four cakes. It was tickets. You had to present a ticket to ride the rides. We had inflatable bouncy houses, all this shit. What I remember most about the party is when it was birthday cake time and we're singing to her. Cause she's one she dives into the cake and mushes in her mouth because nobody fed her. Cause the party has nothing to do with her. So she never got a meatball. This nigga was starving to death at one dying, this baby.

[Mecca]

She said cake.

[Mona]

I mean, with lights, flyer and all that candle. This nigga is fighting for survival. And I realized right then, oh, my God, I haven't fed or changed this motherfucker. She has a bedazzled tutu on and this nigga shitty.

[Jameela]

You just full ass pamphlet.

[Mona]

I get so off track, but it's like, God damn. But that's what we did. So dumb. You spent thousands of dollars and y' all are doing worse. So I don't even feel bad. Cause y' all pay the party planner 5000 and then get this little Jivon. She the is wrong with you. But my. My cousin is a drunk. And my cousin invited some random white lady from around the corner. And she came and she's piling on seafood salad. And I. I make a really good seafood salad. Mecca and Jamila. I use large shrimp. I use. I don't use imitation crab meat. I use the cans of crab.

[Jameela]

Me.

[Mecca]

No, no, that's right.

[Mona]

Mike's pan of seafood salad is a $80 situation.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I already had to wipe with guns that these bitches don't pile up Tupperware and leave because my family ghetto. So it's like I'm already watching the Dixons, and now I gotta watch some random Shizinski bitch. It's time to go. My mother walked over and made her put the seafood salad back. Put it, Put it back. Pull it back. This white lady. And she. And I remember, she's like, oh, I was invited. Who the fuck invited you? Going off. And to be honest, y', all, my mom. I won't say she looks white, but she damn sure don't look black. Like she looks. She look like a wiggle. She look like she trying to be something, but she black. You know what I mean? And she's very angry. I don't know. I just wanted to add that. Y' all want to call her? We can. She's super smart.

[Jameela]

I'm screaming.

[Mona]

We'll be here all day.

[Jameela]

We're gonna bring you to our segment.

[Mona]

Wait a minute. I have to compliment y'. All. Okay. I really like you bitches. No disrespect with the bitch thing.

[Jameela]

No, I like bitch.

[Mona]

I was very attracted to both of you. I think I found you first. And you know, Mecca, you're very different than. Right?

[Mecca]

Really?

[Mona]

Yes. You Are we're similar because we're both white, white, blacks. Cause I swore Megan was a biracial. You know, I'm one of them. Everybody my color. I'm like, clearly this baby half white. She cool and all, but clearly she's a mulatto. No, but I found you first. And your humor's kind of, like, dry. You won't make a face. You can't tell where you going with it. So I was always entertained. But you always impressed by you. Always thought you were super.

[Mecca]

Thank you.

[Mona]

And then I found you, right? And I don't know, I'm just impressed by you bitches. I think that you're really, really talented. I don't know. I think that y' all could take this shit as far as you want to take it, but I think that you might end up a movie star or something. I think about that sometimes. Thank you. You know what's crazy? That bitch end up a movie star. She stopped speaking to me. Wouldn't that be something people get?

[Jameela]

Do I give that? I give. I'm that type of diva.

[Mona]

I'm proud of y'. All. And. And, like, you know, it's just. I don't know, I just. I'm so glad that, like, I am outgoing. Cause, like, I see that and I want to know them, and I want them on my podcast. And that's crazy because the way I think of myself, I think I said something to y' all and y' all were excited. And I'm like, these bitches think I'm somebody. Like, I'm fans of y', all, but it's like, y' all, like, oh, my God, of course we laughed on Frontal, yo. I remember when they had this huge hate train with y'. All. Oh, my God, it was so long.

[Jameela]

I was gonna say, which is so.

[Mona]

And I remember, I think it was you. You did, like, a friends only talking to us like other influencers. And I think I said something. I hope I said something to you, because I was like, girl, this is, like, indicative of you winning. Plus, you being light skinned. You not really allowed to breathe right now. So you are breathing a lot on the Internet. But I just need y' all to know that people are watching. Y' all are doing really well. You know what I mean? And y' all are really smart, and y' all are the future, and you gotta keep going. And if I have any regret, when I was back your age, I wish I fucked up more threesomes, more niggas, more get on your backs. I thought that your Coochie would get loose if you fuck too much. It's a lie, babe. That motherfucker snaps back. I had two humans on my cat. My cat still told me.

[Jameela]

One thing I do know about that I had that baby. I was a virgin again. It actually just restarted. Your virginity. That's science.

[Mona]

I always forget you got a baby boy. You don't have any children, right? No, I know that because you see that around your eyes, the life in them still. But because you don't post your baby. Smart girl.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Nothing.

[Mona]

My baby. I would post my middle son. He would go viral every time.

[Mecca]

Yeah, your son was really funny.

[Mona]

Yeah, I had a real funny son. Me and his father split, and they would approach him, and I just thought it was wrong. His father's very shy guy. Very. That's the Virgo. He's like. And it just wasn't fair. On top of the fact that they would approach him.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

And he was 7. They would touch him and hug him. Yeah.

[Jameela]

So.

[Mona]

And it's like, he's not making a decision to do that. And then they started getting, like, beefy about it. I remember I. My sister, my daughter. Cause we were like family. Like, me having most baby dads never met anything. These niggas hang out. So one baby dad taking another nigga, kid. Oh, my God.

[Jameela]

Come on.

[Mecca]

You got him in line. Like.

[Jameela]

Come on, Lee Simmons.

[Mona]

I promise you, I had it like that. The one baby that would come, and if he was, like, a little high or maybe drinking, he could spend a night at her house. Yeah, but that's how it's supposed to be, in my opinion. That's so dumb. All that friction with it. It's dumb. You know what I mean? It doesn't make any sense. Especially when it's like, I'm not upset about. I left both of these niggas. You know what I mean?

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

So it's like, why I'm not mad. You know what I mean? So if anything, y' all need to get. You know what I mean? Get acquainted. Y' all.

[Jameela]

Good.

[Mona]

Because y' all have the same fucking trauma, which is me. But either way. Yeah. I don't really know where I was going with that, but I just wanted to compliment y' all because I'm fans of you.

[Mecca]

I appreciate that. Thank you so much.

[Mona]

I'm proud of y'.

[Mecca]

All.

[Mona]

I'm glad that we're working together on something big, and we need to do something, and y' all need to get that ball hit man to call me. I know how to act kid.

[Mecca]

Wants Dave.

[Mona]

Watch this, watch this. That's fear. That's me afraid, Kev. Kevin, the nigga, he likes my stuff.

[Jameela]

I can promise you. You're probably already on his radar to be called next. When I tell you he's so thorough.

[Mecca]

Like, he got his ear to the street.

[Jameela]

We don't even got to do much. I guarantee you. You're probably already on that Rolodex. He probably probably simply ain't got tva. Cause he really like that.

[Mona]

The fact that he called y'. All. That's exactly why I like him. Cause he know, like, just seeing that clip of my nigga. Cause when I tell you I love Deontay, like, he my family, like, in my mind, Deontay from the Grits and Eggs podcast was in his truck on break talking. And I'm the one that told him to start podcasting. And then he took off and won every award around me and shot right past me in podcasting, motherfucker. Either way, though, it was the. Like him. And that dashiki is like, I. I just. I enjoy it. I like watching. I'm proud of us. I like the new version of what we do because we so talented. Like, I like us owning stuff. Like, I love that TV did and everything on YouTube because we getting our paper. You know one thing I hate, though? What? I hate the fact that podcasting and this is no shade, no shots. This is. I. I felt like this for years now. I feel like podcasting and music is filled with a lot of people that come from that. Right? So they were fucked and ripped off financially. So the fact that they do that to people is crazy. Right?

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

My first big job, I made $300 an episode. If I told you what I make per episode on Joe, it's a far.

[Mecca]

It's not $300. I know that. Got damn much. Yep.

[Mona]

Yeah. And honestly, it should be way more. You know what I mean? Like, I know what I do and who I am. You know what I mean? Late and all. Yeah. And it's like, bro, like, like, like, I got this type of team now. Them niggas putting together packages. What the numbers look like without me. And me, cuz, I would have never believed it anyway. I wouldn't have looked. But that's like, Yeah, I know what's going on. My eyes is open to shit. And I understand why Joey and them know that they could do less because that platform that motherfucking big. And I remember doing. And Gil saying, shit, you should pay me to be on here. When we talked about it. At the time, I think I paid like, I was getting paid, like 700 or a thousand for episode or something. And the agreement with Gillingham was, after a couple successful episodes, you'll get your regular rate. It never happened. And that was his. Well, you should pay for us. We should be paying. You should be paying us to be here. And then one of the guests that would be on there all the time, it came out that he was paying, like, 20, 000amonth to be on there. So, like, I get it. I get the platform back. I get all of that. Same way y' all gonna be. Y' all gonna have some young whippersnappers, some new on here. And it's like you are paying them, but you also understand that you're helping them build your career by them standing next to. To you, period. I'm g. If she do your hair or your toes, it is a benefit when you walk in the salon.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Simple. But I just think it's sick. I think it's sick that even with this big thing. Gucci man and Pooch. I. Why is Gucci man robbing Pooch? II Why would Gucci man be the person that is robbing a, like, Pooch Icy. Gucci man was always a street.

[Jameela]

I thought he kidnapped Gucci.

[Mona]

Well, the whole. He was robbing him.

[Mecca]

Oh, that's making no money off his music.

[Mona]

Pay $20 million off that Gucci.

[Jameela]

That's why he got him.

[Mecca]

Yeah. That's why he said, give me my. Get me out this contract now.

[Mona]

That whole.

[Jameela]

Well, in that case, my mind is changed.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say that.

[Mona]

Seriously, you didn't know that?

[Jameela]

I didn't know. I just. Because I just saw the first headline. I was like, this is actually too overstimulated for me. I'll get back to that. Because I was like, what do you mean? Pushasi kidnapped his daddy told him to do that. But, you know, with that. That makes sense, to be honest.

[Mona]

Be honest. When it first broke, I thought it was a joke because it broke before it went viral.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

It was out on, like, the street live.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Because the streets knew it happened. And I legit. Sometimes, especially with AI, when it's too hard to believe. I don't believe.

[Jameela]

That's why I was like, this is a lot. I need a break.

[Mona]

And it's like. And I was so irritated by the whole, oh, y' all lucky name Gucci in'06 and Gucci was there. First of all, Gucci man killed a nigga and didn't go to prison a Nigga that does that with fellow doesn't do that two and three times. Number one. Number two, Gucci mane wife just went viral for saying he's medicated, he's on medication, and he has these mental health problems. And she goes through all this to get him put away. So it's like. That is a medicated Gucci, man. That's why the diss song kind of like. Cause you can't really diss a nigga good when you're medicated. Yeah, I would assume, you know, he washinged.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say he was unhinged and not on drugs.

[Jameela]

I was gonna say he's eating vegetables, he's off the lean. He's medicated for the schizophrenia. He ain't got no more voices, you know.

[Mecca]

That's why the Weeknd music was hitting better when he was on them joints. Drugs.

[Mona]

Yeah. Can I tell y' all a secret? Yes. I prefer all my favorite rappers addicted to drugs, like Kodak, hi Kodak.

[Jameela]

That ain't ain't no secret hi Kodak.

[Mecca]

You know what coke was doing for our music in the 70s and 80s?

[Mona]

You didn't said something Dar.

[Mecca]

Hold on.

[Mona]

You think we would have like Fire and Desire without cocaine?

[Jameela]

We wouldn't.

[Mecca]

Come on now. You mean September? Sure.

[Mona]

Jam up to pure. Shut up.

[Jameela]

That's why I can't try it these days. It's not period.

[Mecca]

It's cut with that fent. That'll kill you.

[Jameela]

I would've tried it and played with 82.

[Mona]

I tried cocaine in Puerto Rico with a drag queen.

[Jameela]

How was it?

[Mona]

I went to Puerto Rico with my friends My friend we ain't never gonna

[Jameela]

get to the spin it I guess

[Mona]

we're not yomi keep taking it up, putting it down I went to Puerto Rico with my friend group. I had a mean girlfriend group. I still do. I love them to death. But we came up in the street, so we were rough with each other and we were just, you know, girl trips. How we get there. And that's a real.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Except for we never post each other panties. Like, we just might have put fist for it in front of the Airbnb or whatever. Either way, they were being bitches and I separated from them and I just, like, walked the island. I went to the hood where you're not supposed to go. What the fuck is that shit called? La Perte La something. I don't know. But you're not supposed to go there. They tell you not to go there. But I had a ball. I wouldn't recommend you. I had A ball in an area you're not supposed to go to as a light skinned woman. And quiet. And plus I say, I know how to say, see, Like a Puerto Rican. Listen. Si, you feel me? I grew up in Puerto Rico. It was North Philly is like Puerto Rico. But I ended up meeting this guy from Baltimore. He claimed he was in Puerto Rico running from a homicide. Because I think he thought that I didn't know Puerto Rico was the state. You didn't go in there? Dumbass nigga, what the fuck? And we were like hanging out or whatever. And I think he was probably on Potter, which is weird that I didn't do anything with him. Cause I. He didn't offer it, but he was getting kind of rapey. And I remember I was with him all day and then the next day I was with him. He kept trying to get me to go to like where his people live at because his mom makes Konkiko. And again, you're on the run. Why is your mom here? Just lying. But when I run from him and I get some distance, I end up wearing these beautiful ass drag queens, full outfits and all that. And she has the necklace and all that. And I say to her that looks like the necklaces from the videos. And she's like, yeah. And I'm like, that's Coco. She's like, yeah. I'm like, let's, you know, can I try it? And she's like like, oh, mommy, no. You know, you tried. Oh no, mommy, I can't. No, I know. Say I. And then she, I mean she's saying no, but she's getting it ready or whatever and it's crazy. She got the little necklace and she pulled out the little attached spoon and all that.

[Jameela]

You went pinky on him?

[Mona]

No, she had the spoon.

[Jameela]

She had the spoon.

[Mona]

Class bag.

[Jameela]

Oh yeah.

[Mona]

Classy drag queen. Fucking feathers and sequins too.

[Mecca]

Wong Foo, thanks for everything, Dooley Newmar. Thank you.

[Mona]

Attractive Mecca. Stop it.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Mona]

And she pulled out the nose. First thing I do. Hey, choo, waste the coke. She said, mommy, I hurt. And she does it again. And I snorted it. And I remember the thing that I remember the most is that like that drip thing. Cause I think that's a part of it. It drips down your throat. Gross. I then went back to the hotel and them bitches was getting on my nerves and I was like, you know what? I'm going home. I don't remember feeling high, but I had a scenic Rome home. Like I had a flight here, a bus here, a train Here and I was in such a good mood. The fact that I just argued with six of my friends and it was horrible. And I was always soft hearted. Like I'd never been heartbroken by a man. Like I have been friends, friends have broken my heart, you know what I mean? In so many ways. Like I literally just got a girl's name covered on me. That was a friend close 20 something years. Like all my pain comes from friendships. Like I think it's cause I never had sisters. Like my father had kids later. But growing up as an only child, always chased that like orphan nanny. Like I was always looking for that or whatever. So I think I, I know that I invested in people that probably shouldn't have or whatever. And I like, you know, you make it loyalty, slavery. So now you locked in with these people, it's a whole thing. But that's what I remember. I remember not ever getting tired and feeling great. Like making my way downtown. Just lost all my friends. Yeah, I'm like, got all these bags, they light, you know what I mean?

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Like I like. But I don't remember feeling high. And it's crazy because like in my mind I was gonna do cocaine and like go to a casino and meet like a baller. It didn't happen in Puerto Rico.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Mona]

Yeah, I'm glad I shared that with y'. All.

[Jameela]

Yeah, that was fun.

[Mecca]

That was good.

[Mona]

Yeah. I recommend people try drugs. I feel like when I meet people that never took ecstasy, never did shrooms, it's like, oh, what a loser. You have to do ease once. And now, now let me say right now, I wouldn't recommend doing ease because it's probably meth.

[Jameela]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm gonna say. So I, I can't try. I've missed my beat for trying drugs, Mona. So I can only do a little marijuana and I may try shrooms at some point in life. But I, I'm just, I just need to sit down first and I haven't. I need to sit down and be with a shroomer. I don't wanna do shrooms by myself. Cause I, you know, I'm a little off in the head regularly sober. So I don't wanna do that.

[Mecca]

But I'm not gonna say you're not supposed to do shrooms if you're not in a good place in your life though.

[Mona]

I do.

[Mecca]

Cause you hallucinate.

[Mona]

I've only done em twice. All my friends were doing em. Yeah, A close friend was fucking selling them, making them. And so you did the Actual mushrooms. I see. Like.

[Mecca]

Cause, you know, like, now they have the chocolate in the dispensary.

[Mona]

My friends would take the mushrooms, dry them out, put them in blenders and roll them in fruit roll ups. That's what they would do. So the ones I originally tried was those. But my friends that did shrooms, them eat mushrooms or put the whole mushroom in the tea. Yeah, them.

[Jameela]

The scary people.

[Mona]

Yeah. I mean, but they. Because they really trying to do they trying to take a trip. Like, that's, you know, I feel like stuff like that. You should be in a cave. You should be in Vegas.

[Jameela]

You should be somewhere around.

[Mona]

I did it in the trenches. I had a sundress on. No draws. I had a ball. I let.

[Jameela]

Oh, my God.

[Mona]

We went to get crabs, right? And they never brought the crabs. Jamila, you wouldn't. We never knew we was having a fucking ball. The crabs never came. And we found out because they brung us a check. And we was like, we need eat. And then we was like. We didn't even eat ball. The second time, though, Everybody I was with had somewhere to go. And I ended up going back home. And I have a teenager. And she was there and I said something to her and she was so mean to me. I sobbed. I was like, why are you so fucking mean? She was like, mom. What? And just went to go do her edges and left me alone, bro. I cried for 45 minutes. I cried so long. And then I did the thing you're not supposed to do on shrooms. I looked in the mirror. My face is melting off of my head. And now I'm sobbing because I lost my face. I'm like. And then I started. Shit you not. I started to console myself. It's gonna be all right. It's all right, Damona. It's okay. And sometimes I would look in the mirror and go, you're so fucking ugly. And I was like, no, you're not ugly, girl. It's the shrooms. And I just, like, went to bed, but it was rough. Oh, my God. That's what I remember the most. And my daughter was like, bitch, are you old? Like, what?

[Mecca]

What? Not even. Go to my agency. Yeah, teenagers love doing their edges. That's so funny.

[Mona]

My daughter. Edges used to touch her brows. And I'm the funny one. You look dumb as shit. You look so dumb. Your brow, your dope edges are dumb.

[Mecca]

It is something like when you a teenager, the bigger your baby hairs is, though, the cuter it is. Cause I was like that too.

[Jameela]

I used to have it and you

[Mecca]

know, I ain't got much space between my eyebrows and my edges either. So.

[Mona]

What's your name? My girl Taylor said, no, you look dumb. If your edges touch your brow, you look fucking dumb.

[Jameela]

I'll just do a quick little shit shoop. Keep it, keep it a butt period.

[Mona]

You know, they cut them.

[Mecca]

Oh yeah, they cut them like that now.

[Jameela]

They creating baby hairs. And I'm like, see y' all cutting corners is what you're doing.

[Mona]

I really like how my hair is now. I like how these lay. I'm not gonna lie. I may have let somebody cut mine a year ago. I do like the way they.

[Mecca]

I ain't been on my job. I used to faithfully perm my sideburns and get me a little swoop like a Puerto Rican.

[Mona]

Is that your hair?

[Mecca]

No, this is a sewing My hair still Dennis long.

[Mona]

Cut that out. That sh. Look.

[Mecca]

Oh, no, everyone knows my. I have a teaspoon of hair.

[Mona]

Oh, right, you got the pixie. Yeah, you know, I, you know, I'm itching that Black girl. You 40 something pixie. I'm itching, but I, But I'm one of them. I'm born in the 80s, so a piece of me feels like a man without hair down my back. I got a bob right now.

[Jameela]

I don't know if I could ever do the baldy bald.

[Mona]

Yeah, but, but, but you can't lie. Them pixies sharp as fuck.

[Mecca]

They are, but you gotta keep them sharp. That's why I'm growing mine back out.

[Mona]

Get your hair done weekly.

[Mecca]

And I, I was.

[Mona]

And it's expensive.

[Mecca]

$150, $200 every time I said, oh, and I go to the gym. So it's like, oh, you need a perm. I, I need to turn down. When my hair was laying and it was platinum, I was perm pixie that day. I said, don't try this at home, cuz I have four texture hair and it could take a lot.

[Mona]

If I get my. When I get my body to the place that I want it, I think I might do it. I mean, or at least go to somebody, cuz, you know, some of these girls do pixie wigs and they're like, you don't. But those motherfuckers. $1,000 like the good ones or whatever. So maybe you can do a little quick weave though.

[Jameela]

Quick weave? Pixie, pixie quick.

[Mona]

You know, the. That can give me a good pixie. Quick weave. I don't. You could direct me to the girl that can do that.

[Mecca]

Have you Ever seen that video where it, like, it, like, snaps on her head? You know what I'm talking about?

[Mona]

Yes, I do. And I don't want to bring that sister no attention because that is dangerous. Oh, she gonna around and with somebody. Hemoglobin or whatever's up there.

[Jameela]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mona]

And it's gonna be trouble, not an aneurysm. Shout to out.

[Jameela]

Let's have a closing word.

[Mona]

Do y' all wanna play your little game, or is it too.

[Jameela]

Oh, no, it's gone. That's a whole other extra 40 minutes.

[Mona]

You know, I'm up. I'm out of town.

[Mecca]

I'm out of town.

[Mona]

You all in my rounds. I'm out of town. Shit. Did I mention on here I like young dick? We'll do that part, too.

[Mecca]

She done already called Darrington to close.

[Jameela]

I was actually gonna ask you, you know, are you having better boy situations or, like, what's going on? That was gonna be like our little closing segment. Let's talk about boys. Boys.

[Mona]

I like talking about boys. I, Because I grew up male, said so. Like, I'm with that.

[Jameela]

Like, y' all talk about boys.

[Mona]

No, we are all about the boys. And then you know what I realized recently? That Aquarius. Aquarian thing, I didn't know that. I was reading comments of a post, and these girls were just going so hard on how Aquarians are, like, so boy crazy, and that's draining, actually. I feel like she might have been mistaken. We people crazy, period. If we like you, we are in love with you. You know what I mean? That's why I say, oh, I like that y', all, because I watch y', all. And then I watch every day. Like, that's what I did. That's just how I am. Like, I have to consume it a lot. This is where I am with the boys. I have been in relationships since I was, like, 17. My last relationship was horrible. It was rough. I haven't even really. Like, I think I've shared it, but I haven't shared it enough. Just like. Like, the DV thing and going through, like, that, Like, I've never. I went through that. Famous people just didn't know. Like, yeah, I did shows with black eyes, all kind of shit. It was rough. And then with my situation, the reason why I got so bad was because I am somebody that is, like, I never, like, had a big brother to call or, like, had a dad to tell. So it's like, I think he recognized that. And then with the fame, it's like, she can't Tell nobody. So that's why I think it went on so long. Cause he took advantage of that or whatever. And it's really. It went from like, I never been in love before. I used to say that's the first time I ever been in love with a guy. Even though I played wife and all that, I've always had a critical mind to a relationship. Almost how Muslims do. Muslims. We get together like that. You meet a guy, he got what you like, you got what he like. On Friday, y' all get married. Islam is like that. And I feel like I did a lot of my little family things like that, because all I knew is, I want a family, so I'm going to build it like this, right? He can't be a drug dealer. So the guy that I meet with a drug, with a job, this is. You know what I mean? And of course, those fail, because I don't think that's how that's supposed to go. But I never experienced it, and I wanted to. So I created it, or my version, my work version of it. But, like, before I knew it, it was like, I'm in a situation, like, I'm, like, scared of this nigga, or I'm scared of what I gotta do to this boy to stop him from, like, yo, I'm talking. Like, I cannot wait to share with people, like, how hard it was me to call the police on a nigga. Like, I remember calling the police on this nigga. This is two years ago, a year ago, thinking like, oh, my God, if anybody. Like, if people Internet find out about this, I'm not gonna be, like, respected, like, in that street way anymore. And as sick as it sounds, it is important to me. A guy reached out to me the other day. We were talking about street shit on Joe Podcast. He reached out to me the other day. I did my research on you. I got a lot of respect for you. None of them nigga street niggas, they all bitches. Stop talking to them about that street shit. And it's like, I ain't hear nothing. But I did my research. I respect you, Mike. Yeah, it's sick, but that's. It's embedded in you. This shit ain't no. Yeah, it was crazy to me. Like, people started calling me a scammer, like, a year ago or whatever. And I want to say it took everything for me not to say it. But I said it. It was like I came out and told y' all I was a criminal. So if. If they are saying I'm a scammer, like, how far off?

[Mecca]

You know what's funny about that? I saw those videos and I said,

[Mona]

well,

[Jameela]

what were you supposedly scamming?

[Mona]

I now sit now and see. I trust y', all, okay? So I want to know what y' all think, because I do know that about myself, that I'm a fast talker. So I do it to myself, which is the worst person to fast talk, right? In my mind, the scammer shit was wrong. Because what would happen was, is I started doing this, I started going viral, and immediately I make money off, like, promo and shit like that. Covid happened. So I didn't make show money and all that bulk of my money was promo. Nobody showed me how to do that. So I would set these deals up. Even if I had contracts, I was pulling it out my ass. I would be pretending to be my manager or having different people represent me by the week. My bio is changing, right? And if. If we did a deal, whether I was late, I did it wrong, or you were late and you did it wrong. Once we got to the place where you disrespected me, you got. That's it. It's cut. You know what I mean? And the bigger situation was I did an event with this girl, girl, she was super happy. The event was sloppy as. And it's like, I learned so much with this. It's like all the events where people talk me down for my number. They're. It's always connected to it. It never goes right. It's always some. All the events where it's real messy. It's never just. It's messy. And we can, like, it's never. Your event's messy and I'm late and crazy. We can put this together. Their event being messy is always indicative of some horrible shit that's coming in the future. And our event was real messy. It was just real, like, you know, I remember exactly, like, she was supposed to have, like, entries from people. And she was like, oh, I'm gonna get the questions. And I caught her sneaking and writing the questions, which I thought was so dishonest. Cause, like, why not just tell me and I can tell you what questions are right now. We got good shit, but you trying to trick me. Just like, either way, we did the one event, she tipped me, she was so happy with it. And then the second event, I canceled. And she said, oh, I gave everybody, like, the event might. If the event was 6 or 7 o' clock or Friday or whatever. She said she gave everybody their money back within 20 minutes or hour of Me canceling. I thought she was lying. I thought she was scamming. On top of the fact it's like, why, bitch? Give them rain checks. They going to. We can do it again. They're going to want to come. We can sell more tickets, whatever. That turned into her, like, posting my number, posting my address and shit like that. You're beat. It's like, bro me. And it's so sick. It's like I never thought twice. It never was like, damona, come on. That's not right. It was like, bitch, she called you a white bitch. She don't want that fucking money. You know what I mean? She don't want the post. And it's been so many different things, you know what I mean? So for me, that's not a scammer. Because in my mind, a scammer is reaching out to these people, trying to scam them out of something. I don't benefit off of you booking me for something and I don't come. I want the back, and I want the other half. I don't even benefit off of doing half the promo. I want to do the six minutes. So it's like. I don't know what people think, but it's like, I'm being honest. I came off the street with this. So it was a street mentality attached to it, and it went viral. This is so how crazy people are in the world is. The events that I was doing were very similar to a brand. I don't want to, like, bring them into it or whatever, but I did. I collabed with a bigger brand who had a big show. And it hit me then that that's what she was emulating when she booked me a year or two ago. So even though I did shows in her area and she might have posted and said, oh, this girl owed me money, or this girl whatever, when I did that show, which was probably her dream thing, she came to a show and yelled for an audience. She owe me money. She scammed me, whatever. Mind you, when we were on stage, that looks like, oh, they fighting in the back. Like, we never even knew. But again, like, because of the Joe thing and all that, people not liking me, like, certain bloggers picked up. I try not to mention certain people like Lil Bill. I've named her Lil Bill. You could scratch your brain and think, who blogs, who does? Who's in the gossip and look like Lil Bill? Close your eyes and think about it. Do y' all need help with Lil Bill?

[Mecca]

I think I got who Lil Bill is.

[Mona]

Okay, so but like, Lil Bill, whatever. And this is the thing to too. I had that stroke. I had a stroke and two seizures last year. And I'm Muslim and you don't die with deaths. And I said, yo, I gotta reach out these people. I gotta like fix this. Like, you know, especially people that are saying, actively saying, I want my. I'm a 600 back, right? And it's so crazy. She did that. And I instantly took that force. She wants to fight me. Please, just every. Everybody watch. If you want to bow your heads down, everybody pray, I would appreciate it. Mama. Say mama's side. Thank you. But I thought she wanted to fight. And even when I, like, took. Cause I'm thinking we're out of town and you out of town women, you want to fight me. And I'm like, oh, she want to fight. You know, be honest. Ghetto rules. Once we fight, I don't owe you no more money. So look, let's really get this shit on real quick. But she didn't want to fight. She wanted to go viral. And, you know, that's kind of what happened. And the next day I was like, yo, what's your information? I was like, I don't know how much I owe you. And she was so upset. Like, yeah, right. It's like, bitch, I really be working.

[Jameela]

So do you want the money or not?

[Mecca]

Cause you see what. Cause the reason you want it to go viral is. Cause you see where I'm at. So if I'm trying to give you the money. Come on now, don't be stupid.

[Mona]

I gave her the money. I remember, and it was a lot of money. I was surprised. That's how you know how shitty the whole thing was. Because I kid you not, the back end was like $100 she paid. Like, it didn't even make any sense, like why it was like that. But I sent it to her and she posted and I said, hey, you don't have to post it. Oh, no. I went everywhere. I was like, nah, you don't gotta post it. I'm glad you paid.

[Jameela]

That's it.

[Mona]

But this is what I said to her. I said, yo, I think you should come on my podcast. I said, they get you on my podcast, and this is a good opportunity for like, accountability. Like I say, I play what part I play, you what part you play. Like, how many black businesses are gonna learn right now from this? Because this is stupid. This big ass fight is dumb. Especially when I end up landing on your big dream thing. It's like, we should be cool. You should Be you should be a part of this or something. Like, why not you, this young girl, you got these dreams living in this bumble fuck ass town. You know what I mean?

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mona]

And she was like, no, fuck no, I respect it. Cool. And she did an interview with Lil Bill the next day after being paid. And that's crazy. Cause I remember, remember.

[Mecca]

Oh, so she already had that set up when the ho. Yes. Let her go.

[Mona]

Little Bill paid the one night stand. The mailman lady with your crusty pants. So. And it's crazy because she on this show, she's trying to talk about whatever she got going over there. And the person and Little Bill just, well, so does she owe you? But. And she, you know what I mean? It's like she really thought she was going to take that opportunity and turn. No, she only want to talk to you if you're not talking about me. And I even, I remember that too. Like telling her like, yo, you don't want to be known as the girl Damona beat. Like, Cause, bro, that's not. And I hate this and I don't want to sound like this, but I'm not losing no fans for that. You know what I mean? People going to talk about me for it, but my fans not leaving for that. I'm watching my fans. I call my cousins in the comments saying, yeah, right. She would never. People post the proof and then they would go, oh well, that she deserved. Like, they don't care.

[Mecca]

Jen Shaw went to jail for scamming old people and the killed himself. And the Bravo stands still stand behind her.

[Mona]

So bro, like, I just, I mean, that's just how this works like that. It's not so it's like, yo, you don't want it. I was like, yo, let's. And she ain't, you know, she ain't want to do it. So it was like, okay, whatever. And I went on a paying spree. I paid a lot of people. Like, and yo, so many people being a cop. She owe me money too. And I talk to them. I don't owe them nothing. People just want, you know, they want.

[Jameela]

I just want to get a little 20.

[Mecca]

Just a little.

[Mona]

I don't have shame about it. And I don't know if I'm supposed to or what, but I don't, nigga, I like, I'm. If I tell you that I would walk in the gap with trash bags in my panties, take them out of my panties. Those trash bags smell like pussy a little bit now I'm stuffing bubble coats in them in Order to sell them to your baby dad so he can finally do right this Christmas. Why the do you think, like, I'm gonna be ashamed or embarrassed about some shit? I. I ain't never. And I don't even. Not to even say anything with sex work. I. You're not gonna find a video of me sucking no dick. You're not. Certain things you're not going to to see. You're not going to hear about me stealing out nobody wallet even as a street bitch. But you might see me army crawl in a cabela's for a north face. I'm just keeping it real. So. But yeah, like, going through all that shit was just like, yo, like, I really like experiencing the whole thing. Like, even like your dirty draws being out there. That fame a motherfucker. And the crazy thing about it is I don't know if y'. All. I'm sure y' all did. Cause y' all wasn't coming saying y' all were going to be infamous. And I remember when y' all said that, how much I cringed hearing it. And even thinking, like, what the fuck? Because I promised everybody in this room I did this. And never thought once about fame. It never slid across my brain. I never thought. So when it happened, I was like, what the fuck? Like, people would run up to me. Oh, my God. I would go. Because, like, why are you doing that? Like, for me, like, I don't even have my titties done. Like, I don't have a bra on. My titties are at my belly button. And you screaming, you're being dumb. But do y', all, like, y' all wanted it? Bitches, y' all wanted it since college?

[Jameela]

Yeah, actually I do. Yeah, I'm having a blast free. But you know what it is for me, it's not necessarily the fame. It's where the fame. What the fame is attached to, if that makes sense. So for me, the fame and the notoriety came because of the things that I've been doing. And so for me, it's like a measurement of my success in this way. Because. Because I'm not like a millionaire right now, right? And so. And I know that the things that I want to do. Fame is gonna come first before a fortune. I know that. That's just how it is. Like, the majority of actors you see are not wealthy and rich and, you know, millions and millions of dollars. But for me, that's most important, like my career and being known for being the funny girl, being a great actress, being all of these things. Like, that's important to me. And if you know me for the, that's cool.

[Mecca]

I like people asking for my picture. I'm not even gonna lie to y'. All.

[Mona]

And we never beat them light skinned.

[Mecca]

I know she gave a long winded answer. I'm not even gonna fake the funk. I do like.

[Mona]

Do you say yes every time?

[Mecca]

Yeah. I don't think I've ever said no unless it's not. Now what I will say, I do be sensing setup vibes sometimes and I will play it off. I'm not stupid like dog, but like,

[Mona]

I don't recommend you Ice Spice me.

[Jameela]

I'm telling you.

[Mecca]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I would have stood up. I don't like people standing over me already. So like, some of that stuff I'm

[Jameela]

not y' all are, you know, please don't do that to me because y' all already know I'm not a fighter. And I just feel like y' all would be trying. Like, y' all just. Y' all want to beat me up. You want to kill me.

[Mona]

If you do the beat, you say you not a fighter. And you really give me like, you give me like the type of bitch like once we fighting and they break us up, like you purposely dig in my spot. That's what Jamila give me. Like, I'm a scratch your face.

[Jameela]

While they separated, that was to do with my sister. When, whenever, like, me and my sister would get to fighting, I'm kicking like, I'm like. Because I get mad. But the thing is, like, I just have not ever been in a position to like, really fight because I just, I could never really care that much. And the one time, like I was really gonna fight somebody, like, it got blocked to where it was like, well, now that that's over, like, I don't know if I can, like, I don't even know. It's like I. I don't even see myself, especially now get into a position where I would actually be close enough to fight somebody. Cuz I promise you, you cannot make me care enough to fight you. And then especially now that I have this career, I would die before I let you my career up.

[Mona]

I hate switchblade in my coochie.

[Mecca]

So you what?

[Mona]

What she said?

[Mecca]

I said I keep a switchblade in my coochie. So I don't. Wow, we'll fight.

[Mona]

And I'm do I. I hate that you, like, I. My mind still go right there. Like I automatic. Even with the whole Ice Spice thing, it would have never happened to Me, because you cannot stand and talk to me.

[Jameela]

Now, that was crazy.

[Mona]

Since second grade. Yeah, since second. I was ra. I was raised by people that fought. It's like, so it was like. I was constantly. Like, my mother didn't say. My grandmother. Them didn't say, oh, somebody hit you. They would say, there's an invisible square around you. If she get in the square, she means you harm. Attack that bitch. I always. My mother told me what an equalizer was. I was like seven. Like, oh, she bigger than you. Pick something up. Bust a bitch in the head. Like, they were so okay with telling me the most violent. My grandmother told me, these girls follow us home from Wendy's. And I remember I had a bucket hat from the dollar store. I thought it was so cute. And they talked about my bucket hat for three blocks. And the girls that I was with didn't want to fight. And I kept turning around, looking at them like, yo, we gonna let them follow us? Whatever. Cause I knew I was gonna get in trouble for that at least. And I go to tell my grandma and my grandma, y' all a bunch of pussy scary bitches. And da, da, da. Or whatever. And my grandma's directions was next time. Cause I kept saying grandma was more than them. And the girls I was with, it doesn't matter. Next time, you grab the loudest one, you put your arm around her. You spin her to the other girls. You start to gnaw on her ear. I say, grandma, what if she bleeds? She says, spit it out. Look at them. She said, with your big ass, you tell them, I'mma eat this bitch alive. And when I'm done, I'm going to eat the rest of you. And I'm in the kitchen, head turned like a dog.

[Mecca]

She giving you ideas.

[Mona]

Head turned like a puppy. And she like, yeah, like, ain't nobody chasing me home. With your big. As big as your ass is. It's like. But I was raised by people. Looney Tunes people. But urban areas that do that to you. But, you know, I don't recommend you do that to me. Also, I've missed flights taking pictures with people.

[Jameela]

I was gonna say, so do you say, no? Have you?

[Mona]

I am trying to learn how to at least say, like, I can't. Because sometimes I can't. Sometimes taking a picture of one person. Now it's 10 people. Like, I know y' all have had things where you take a picture with somebody and then in third person, you take a picture with. They like, I don't even know you. But everybody else Taking it. It's like, girl, what the fuck?

[Jameela]

That has happened? And it cracks me up every time. It's always like, an older person. Like, what, you famous or something? Oh, well, hold on. Let me get mine. Cause when you blow up, then I be like, you know what? Okay. Period. Like, that shit is so funny to me.

[Mona]

I'm a. It's. It's. This is the most famous I've been. It's a lot.

[Mecca]

Mm.

[Mona]

If I could compare it to anything, I would say it feels like going outside naked. It's constant. The other day, I live in like. Like, I live downtown in my area. And I look out the blinds for a second, and I lock eyes with who's walking past. Was downtown.

[Jameela]

Mm.

[Mona]

And he DMed me not to be a creep, but me and my wife just walked past y'. All's. And the reason why I remembered them is because. Because they went and circled back and walked past the window again. They did it on purpose to double check that that was me. But it's like, people don't realize how. How that feels.

[Jameela]

Yeah, that's crazy. At a scary level.

[Mecca]

Yeah, it's very scary.

[Mona]

I can tell y' all stories for hours about how this shit go. People showing up places, people doing people. I was filming the other day, and I left the door unlocked, and this random man just walked upstairs. I know you. And he just talking to me, like,

[Mecca]

won't stop to get tents on my.

[Mona]

You have to have sex.

[Mecca]

What started happening was. And then when I would be in the car with Darrington or like, we're. Cause my brother works a trade job, so we're going to work in the morning, niggas are.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

And we're like, okay.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Now they gonna start running down on his ass. I was gonna say. And I. And you know what? I've been trying to tell him that. And I feel like he's more like you. Like, ah, these niggas don't give a fuck about me. I'm like, and you're a boy.

[Mona]

Until he knows until.

[Mecca]

Until he gets it. I feel like he's getting it now. Because when I said, oh, I'm about to get. Cause you're a boy. And usually I feel like people are cool with me. Cause I'm a girl. But then again, that mentality just, like, I don't need nobody following us in the car. Cause if you do, like, I don't like that type of shit. Cause I actually am crazy. I will fight in the club. I fight for real.

[Mona]

I've had trucking Trailers stop in the middle of the street. Yeah, like, nah, a police officer State boy just pulled me over like, he was fine too. God damn. I swear to God, we had the same birthday. And he was like, I'm just making sure you okay.

[Jameela]

He was chatting for a little bit because how you get the police officer

[Mecca]

birthday selling to the police officer have been tea, though.

[Mona]

Not only was we chatting a little bit, I remember I didn't feel like I could leave till after 20 minutes. I'm like, yo, you don't have to talk to him like. Cuz it hit me then like, yo, this nigga. Because it legit was. So what's up with Joe? For real? Like, how is. Yeah, I'm dead. I'm dead.

[Mecca]

What are you holding me on, Officer?

[Mona]

That nigga told me, let me go. Let me try and do you like you real ghetto, but you smart. I wanted to say, do you want to me in the back of this car like, is this a. Is this a porn? That boy was so motherfucking fine. Like, if you watching this nigga, I still think about you at night. He just turned 30 and the told me how old I turned. I could have head butt that. I never. I said. I never said how old I was. You look me up, but either way.

[Mecca]

But you had to give me your license.

[Mona]

He didn't ask.

[Mecca]

Oh, so he just. He did know.

[Jameela]

I was gonna say they didn't even

[Mona]

know who the fuck I was. He did not ask me anything. He knew who I was, what I wanted, and he was fine. Did I tell y' all he was fine?

[Mecca]

Yeah, listen, sometime the police be fine back.

[Mona]

Oh, mega. Back to boys.

[Jameela]

Back to police.

[Mona]

Because we're on 11th hour and we

[Mecca]

are in time stopped, y'. All.

[Mona]

We're almost done, guys. I promise. No, you asked about boys and the fame thing. I find it extremely hard to date, like, being famous. Famous. That bad relationship I was in. Fortunately, unfortunately, when I started this, that's who I was with. So once we stopped, I'm famous. So it's like I'm thrown into it. I have been a big my whole life. I've been a little small twice, but.285, 290, big girl, 50 on the roster. I never was this, like. No, you know what I mean? Like, always had a bunch of niggas. Yeah, donate. Generous niggas do. Buy you shit and pay for shit, all that, you know what I mean? Because Aquariuses are whores. Lying whores. They cheat. I cheated on every man I've ever been with. Except for the DV guy because you know he'd bust your head. He's a will whoop your ass. Yeah, you. That'll learn you. Let me see that phone with that basin. That'll learn you ass. But I cheated on everybody. And even if it wasn't sexual, I had friends. I operated like a single person. Always my engaged. I would spin that around just talking to people. I don't know why. You know what I mean? Whatever. Don't prayer. But like now it's like, how do you date? Like how. They think they know me. They think I'm super aggressive. Most niggas meet me and they trying to treat me super tough. Or they just throwing a bunch of money at me or they're listening to the bullshit I'm saying playing and they like, I am so different in relationships than I am on a thing. Like I'm very submissive. Like even in a room. Like, I'm not bedroom bully. Like, you know what I mean, right?

[Jameela]

You know, I don't. I don't think I've experienced like that part of like dating with presence. I guess. I wouldn't say like complete fame, but I just feel like I.

[Mona]

They know you.

[Jameela]

Yeah, but it's, it's the same like, it's like what I'm experiencing as far as like the woes of dating is just regular woes of dating because it's just niggas.

[Mona]

Like I have.

[Jameela]

I don't really get like approached a whole lot like in person. So like, I don't really have that experience of like. But do you have industry niggas?

[Mona]

No.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Mona]

I mean, I'm not saying I'm against

[Mecca]

it, but like you gotta be more open to it. Cause it might get easier.

[Mona]

I don't want no Instagram ass nigga. I don't want, you know, you know, I like, I like a nigga that work with his hands. Like I would be faster with a construction ass nigga. Ashy hands for real over some Instagram. Like this nigga just got concealed color on. They just did his brows to do his pod. No, not doing it, bro. It's not my type. It's not my cup. I don't know. No. I thought I would like rapper dick, but even the rappers like. And it's crazy because I pulled a couple rich ones, but it's like they all give me. Like they gonna want me suck they toe or doo doo on me something crazy.

[Mecca]

Oh my God.

[Mona]

I've dated rich street and rich street niggas don't care about how you feel about not the first real street guy I ever dated. I remember he would answer the phone, you know, I'm with Michelle, I'll see you tomorrow. And I was so okay with that because I got a balance, I promise. And I was like 21. But because when you get into that thing of like, I'm here for the paper, you don't really care. A lot of these girls out here

[Mecca]

like, oh yeah, escorting.

[Jameela]

I don't have none of that experience though. Like that gonna call you a whore,

[Mona]

but you dating a rich man. And if you think that this the rich rich one cares about your feelings and how you feel, how he affects you, you're stupid. He does not give a about that because he can buy you a Chanel bag twice and three times in a week.

[Mecca]

What future say you gonna cry in the ultimore to Phantom.

[Jameela]

I don't think I've ever dated a that could just get me a Chanel bag. So maybe like it's. Maybe I need to try it just to get the experience. But I don't really know. I have not ever had that experience of being like completely tricked out by a boy. Like never ever, ever.

[Mona]

But have you ever hunted for it though? No, that's what I'm saying. That was my whole life. So it was like. And it's not fun. They don't tell them bitches them lifestyles.

[Jameela]

It don't be sounding fun.

[Mona]

It's not fun.

[Jameela]

I'm like, I want my man to like me. Like, I like to be liked. Like really liked. And I like to have a good time. I'm in the world.

[Mona]

Jessica. Jamila. What is Jebediah? What you wear the purple or the green jamel? Oh my God.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I'm telling you crazy. I promise. It's like. And I'm always the favorite bitch. And I still know what that feels like for where it's like, it's a couple of us. I remember fucking with this guy with all his money and hearing he had another bitch and going to go see like just on some women girl shit and riding through her block. And that bitch looked just like me. I couldn't even hate on this bitch. Wide face, white face, pie face bitch. We look just alike. Just alike. It was crazy. But no, that's my issue now. Everybody I meet think they know me already. Or I meet guys this niggas in my phone right now where I post this and they'll text yo, I love Jamila and Megan. It's like that irritates the fuck out of Me, you know what I mean?

[Mecca]

Or like it's about me, nigga.

[Mona]

Not even that. I don't want to talk about what I do online all ever. If I bring it up cool, but why are you bringing it up? Like, why are you, bro? And that's how you know when you're dealing with n richer and more famous. Because they bring up Joe a lot because he's richer and more famous. So it's like. And you know how n are. So of course they bring up Joe.

[Jameela]

And it's weird.

[Mecca]

Weird.

[Mona]

It's like you I just told you how like I that I do it in the ass for my birthday and you just said something about Joe Button.

[Mecca]

Like, Joe is not going to let you him in ass. I am.

[Mona]

No, he is not exactly on my birthday. I will, you know what I mean?

[Mecca]

You know, focus on the birthday.

[Mona]

Ain't nothing wrong with the but on your birthday.

[Jameela]

What kind of type do you think that we have? I'm so curious to.

[Mecca]

Yeah, I already know. I'm about to lie.

[Mona]

I feel like neither one of y' all like street guys, but if either one would, I would probably put the street guy on you.

[Mecca]

I've dabbled.

[Mona]

I feel like you one of them bitches that if you dated a guy and he was like, always using the wrong grammar, you would stop speaking to him about it.

[Mecca]

Me?

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Really?

[Mona]

Yeah. Or if he was like, super dumb, you would cut him off.

[Jameela]

Oh, yeah. I don't do dumb.

[Mecca]

I'm crying.

[Mona]

I have a little cousin that's like, will stop talking to a nigga if she keep putting them commas in the wrong spot. Like, she can't.

[Jameela]

But I'm not. Cause I'm not good at grammar. So I, you know, so then not the grammar. Then that tells me, yeah, like I'm country as hell. So it's like I don't really give a about how you talk necessarily. But it's more so like, I don't like, really ignorant, stupid who are like, so opposed to like learning. Like, cuz you could be cuz I'm. I'm ignorant. Like, I'll be purposefully ignorant just to be stupid and silly. But like, oh, like, no, you're serious. Oh, never mind. Like, that's weird. Like, nah, don't be weird.

[Mona]

Yeah, like a. That would like, get serious with you at dinner about the Illuminati. Like, he has. You know what I mean?

[Jameela]

Like dead the serious. Like, because now I'm uncomfortable and now I'm gonna call you stupid. You really think the earth.

[Mecca]

Cause That'll piss me off so bad.

[Jameela]

And my daddy's a scientist. He don't take shit like that, you know, lightly.

[Mecca]

Please.

[Mona]

You know what I experienced? Cause like, let's say they bring up Joe, that ignorant guy that brings up Joe always asks, is he gay? Like the dumber the guy, they'll say, it's like, like, I don't like the fact that you can't tell this nigga's trolling is like, that's dumb of you. You know what I mean? Or like even, like, you don't understand. People master the hate. Watch. And that's a part of what. You know what I mean? Like, what are you talking. And if he was, why the fuck are we talking about it?

[Mecca]

Like, like they can't wait.

[Jameela]

They can't wait to get some teeth. Niggas are messy as fuck.

[Mecca]

They're messy and we're just honest about it. They're not. And that's what's annoying.

[Mona]

Is that the point now where it's like, oh, you acting like a bitch. No, you need. We need to be saying you act like a man. Cause they act. Yeah, they act horrible now.

[Jameela]

Exactly.

[Mona]

They sassy as shit. And it's like, bro, I don't know. I don't. I'm. I'm seeing single. I am very much single. I. I'm sure that there is a. Maybe a little confused about me and I might be confused about him, but we know that there's not anything past that.

[Jameela]

Do you have a physical type?

[Mona]

I don't. You know, I like, I'm not gonna be delicate. I like me a black, black, blacker than black ass nigga. Like, if I could, if I could get the blackest nigga in the world, I would, I would get him. I like black niggas with waves. I'm corny. I don't, I don't. I hate hair.

[Mecca]

I like the cream. No, I do.

[Mona]

I hate dress.

[Mecca]

I do like waves so bad.

[Mona]

I hate hair. Okay. I hate dreads. I hate. I. Oh God. I just, I just, I just, I just appreciate a wave.

[Jameela]

What do you think Mecca's physical type is?

[Mona]

I feel like both of y' all would like a big black man. I think both of y' all would like a big black guy. But I don't know who would like the big black nigga more. I feel like leaning to you. Cause you come country, but I don't know. But I also feel like you would date a light skinned man, wouldn't you?

[Mecca]

Freak.

[Mona]

Yeah, kinky.

[Mecca]

I went through a whole Phase.

[Jameela]

She had a light skinned, man.

[Mecca]

I had several bad. It was real bad. But I really got sick of niggas telling me my nigga looked like my brother. That's what really, like, it woke me up. It was really pissing me off. And then I started looking at my brother and looking at the nigga and started said, h. Now, I don't like that, dog.

[Mona]

I. You know, lightskinned are either like Drake or Ike Turner.

[Jameela]

I'm telling. And that ain't too far different.

[Mecca]

I mean, hello crazy.

[Mona]

I mean, the lights came in. In my family, they are just. They are rough. Like, I wouldn't let y' all talk to. Damn, I like y', all, so I would.

[Jameela]

I don't really have a physical type, though.

[Mona]

You don't?

[Mecca]

I don't think so.

[Mona]

Is it like a personality type? Yes.

[Jameela]

And I like sexy.

[Mona]

What the fuck is that? And why does it come with a lip pucker? It's almost like you, like, I'm sexy. I think it's me.

[Jameela]

I don't know what it. I don't like. Cause, you know, it can be like, I could think he's fine. I could think he's fine. They look completely different.

[Mecca]

The one thing I will say about you, you like men who are like. I don't think pretty's the word, but, like, attractive.

[Jameela]

Very attractive.

[Mecca]

But know they're attractive. You know, like. Like, I look good in this bitch. Like, that's how her niggas be like. Her niggas know they look good in this bitch.

[Mona]

The last part, the last situation, the last situation I had, he was really, like, super. And he knew I hated it.

[Jameela]

I kind of hate it too, but it's also very sexy. Oh, okay. Taylor's telling us the show.

[Mecca]

Taylor, it's over.

[Mona]

Yeah, it's me.

[Jameela]

All right, y'.

[Mecca]

All, Taylor's showing us the time. Cause we were gonna. We was about to start talking about sucking dick in two seconds. Like, now how. What's your style?

[Mona]

She. Okay, I teach you young asses something. We gonna do a part two so I can teach everybody how old people suck mono.

[Mecca]

Where can we find you?

[Mona]

Follow me on all my social medias. My name is don't call Me White Girl. On Instagram and on all the other pages, I'm always on tour. I feel like. I don't know when this comes out, but I feel like May 7, I have a show in Detroit if you wanna see me. I have a podcast called the Don't Call Me White Girl Show. If you enjoyed my podcast, that was called the Don't Call Me White Girl Podcast and you can't find it. It's because it's not the Don't Call Me White Girl podcast because that's owned by evil white men that's in the Klan, the Ku Klux Klan. This show is owned by me and it's called the Don't Call Me White Girl show and you can listen to it anywhere. You listen to podcasts. You can catch me on Joey's show, Joe Button with my niggas. Very ignorant group. I don't recommend, but if you want to slide through, you can. Yeah, and you should see me live.

[Jameela]

Period.

[Mona]

Yay, y'.

[Mecca]

All. Don't forget to follow us at Unhinged Immoral Pod. Y' all know where to follow me and Jameela separately subscribe to our Patreon. It's $8 a month. You get a bunch of exclusives and we'll see you guys next week.

[Mona]

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