Brent Knudsen & 4RBEES: The PureWave Cell, Saving the Bees & Joining a Mission Bigger Than Ourselves

Summary

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Unleashing Intuition Secrets – Episode Summary

Podcast: Unleashing Intuition Secrets
Host: Michael Jaco
Episode: Brent Knudsen & 4RBEES: The PureWave Cell, Saving the Bees & Joining a Mission Bigger Than Ourselves
Date: July 1, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the innovative efforts to save global bee populations using the PureWave Cell technology, as described by recurring guest Brent Knudsen from 4RBEES. Host Michael Jaco, former Navy SEAL and CIA specialist, guides the conversation through actionable insights, testimonials from beekeepers, the science and philosophy behind the technology, applications beyond bees, and a reflective look at the intersections of science, nature, and spirituality. The episode closes with a special song inspired by the PureWave Cell and the collective mission to aid nature.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Importance of Bees and Global Efforts

• Bees as a Keystone Species: Michael underscores the existential risk we face if bees disappear, expressing gratitude for Brent's work (00:02–00:29).
• Global Outreach: 4RBEES has expanded their beekeeper support program worldwide, supplying PureWave Cells, seeds, queens, and more at no cost to beekeepers (02:17–02:53, 02:53–03:34, 43:09).

The PureWave Cell: What It Is and How It Works

• Longevity and Value: Brent outlines that the PureWave Cell maintains effectiveness for 20 years (01:30–01:45).
• Mechanism of Action: The technology employs sacred geometry and strong neodymium magnets, generating frequencies intended to strengthen biological "batteries"—the cells of plants, animals, and humans (19:40–22:43).
• Universal Application: First created to help bees, the PureWave Cell is found to benefit pets, humans, plants, and food as well, contributing to better sleep, gut health, and energy levels (09:13–14:11).
• Frequency vs. Chemistry in Health: Brent discusses the fundamental difference between treating illness with frequencies (as the PureWave does) and with pharmaceuticals, highlighting the absence of side effects with energy-based approaches (38:13–41:34).

Testimonials and Field Reports

• Beekeeper Experiences: Multiple testimonials reference calmer bee colonies, increased honey production, improved brood patterns, and even swarms returning to hives equipped with the PureWave Cell (03:34–07:18).
  • Memorable Testimonial: “Not more than half hour later, they're back in the hive. So they decided, apparently, the pure wave cell was worth coming back for. So I think that's pretty cool. I've never, ever had that happen.” (06:38–07:18)
• Pet and Human Uses: Reports of pets being calmer, improved sleep quality, and enhanced food energetics further broaden the anecdotal support.

Applications and Daily Integration

• How to Use: The PureWave Cell is used for:
  • Placing in/on beehives
  • Under beds/pillows for sleep (09:45–10:09)
  • In refrigerators/crispers for food and honey (13:17–14:23)
  • With pets (13:50–14:38)
  • For gut health in a fanny pack or placed on the body (13:50–17:41)
  • For plants and gardens (18:30–19:40)
  • With energetic and frequency-based devices (PMF mats, grounding sheets), amplifying their effects (15:05–16:10)
• Notable Tip: “Meat like us, it’s full of cells... when it goes in your body, your body has less to deal with… because it’s not fighting off some of these other viruses or pathogens or frequencies that the body doesn’t like.” –Brent (12:28–12:43)

Sacred Geometry & Historical Context

• Why the Shape Matters: Brent explains how the device’s geometry is tied to fundamental biological processes (mitosis, flower of life patterns), and how its design draws upon ancient wisdom from Sumeria, Egypt, and beyond (19:40–32:48).
  • Quote: “That is the blueprint of what the cells respond to geometrically or in a geometric form.” –Brent (19:40–22:43)
• He notes the widespread, often hidden, use of such geometry in religious and corporate iconography (25:55–32:48).

Philosophy, Spirituality, and Responsibility

• Nature’s Blueprint: The discussion weaves together sacred geometry, energetics, and the notion of working with, rather than against, nature for health and prosperity (29:41–34:56).
  • Brent shares: “Your life is amazing when you're working against it. It's a hard life... That intelligence is dying to support you.” (33:24–34:31)
• Self-Education & Skepticism: Both speakers urge listeners to study for themselves, research products and supplements, and be mindful about absorption and efficacy—not just consumption (44:07–45:39).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote / Moment | Speaker | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| | 01:30 | “It’ll go for 20 years. That’s why it has real value... And that directly goes out to the bees.” | Brent | | 03:34 | “I have received my two pure weight cells... I feel very blessed to be a part of this program.” | Lexi, Beekeeper | | 06:38 | “All the bees out of this hive had swarmed... Not more than half hour later, they’re back in the hive.”| Hive Observer | | 09:45 | “I sleep with the Pure Wave cell. And it’s very calming. I get really good sleep.” | Michael Jaco | | 19:40 | “Picture them like little batteries. That’s what they are. They’re like little charged batteries.” | Brent | | 25:19 | “Religions have had this symbology... I’ve seen it in Egypt on the temple walls.” | Michael Jaco | | 33:24 | “The universal intelligence. That’s my name for God. Because that is the intelligence that knows everything that ever existed, ever will.” | Brent | | 38:13 | “We live right now, health wise, in the world of what’s called chemistry, right? So that’s pharmaceuticals… as soon as they go to treat you, they’re right back to chemicals. Boom.” | Brent | | 52:21 | “That was given to us. So that wasn’t something we produced. It was somebody who felt so connected to the pure wave that they created that.” | Brent | | 53:04 | “Very informative and helping humanity, not just we the people, but also the bee family.” | Michael Jaco |

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Beekeeper Program and Testimonials: 02:17–07:27
• Pet and Plant Applications: 09:13–14:38
• Principles of Sacred Geometry & Device Construction: 19:40–25:19
• Historical Context and Global Patterns: 25:55–34:56
• Frequency Medicine vs. Pharmaceuticals: 38:13–41:34
• Supplementation, Absorption, and Health Advice: 44:07–45:39
• Original PureWave Song: 47:34–52:06

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Episode Closing & Call to Action

• Brent thanks supporters and encourages listeners to continue researching.
• Michael promotes the 4RBEES website (4rbs.com) for further learning and calls for personal responsibility in supporting global bee health and personal wellness.
• The episode closes with an AI-generated song that celebrates harmony, the bees, and the resonance of creation (47:34–52:06).

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For More Information:
Visit 4rbs.com.
Listeners are encouraged to read research, review testimonials, and consider trying the energized honey or PureWave Cell for themselves and the greater mission. Use code “JCOBEE” for a discount.

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Transcript

[Brent]

Hello, everyone.

[Michael Jacob]

It's Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets. We got Brett Knudsen back again with four RBs and we're going to have some more updates on what's going on with the bees. The bees. Obviously, without the bees, we would probably not be able to survive here on earth. So they're very important. And thanks to Brent and his technologies, he's helping to bring back the bees. We're right on the brink of maybe not being here anymore. So, Brand, thanks so much for coming on again.

[Brent]

No, thank you for having me on and to your wonderful audience for allowing us to show. And when we first started coming with you, it was exciting to start where it all came from. But what I like about now and what you and I can talk about today when we got that incredible support from all your. Your viewers, is we're going to show you what we do with that support and a lot of what the beekeepers are doing. And we're super excited because it's. It's all spreading out. We're doing what we were talking about. And now it' live so that we can show that.

[Michael Jacob]

Excellent. And testimonials. We'll. We love to hear from people, obviously, how they like the technology. I love the technology. I got it all over my house. I travel with it, I sleep with it. It's around my plants, it's in my refrigerator, on my food. So it's definitely doing a lot for us and we hope that more people will be able to experience that. The incredible technology that you have. So I put the, the description and in the chat there's a link for testimonials.

[Brent]

Yeah. And then just to add to that, when you're using it the way you are, Michael, that'll go for 20 years. That's not a one year or two. That's why it has real value, is it'll go the long run. It won't lose any of its strength. And also it's to remind the viewers is that when you do that is your direct link to helping yourself, but then that directly goes out to the bees. So you're doing two things at once. When you're purchasing honey or you're purchasing the pure wave cell that then in trains we go right out and we put that right out into the field of what we'll show you today.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, very good. We've shown there's some. Someone saying, my husband and I are backyard beekeepers. So excited to learn more. You're going to learn a lot and you want your bees to have this technology, it makes a huge difference.

[Brent]

Yeah. And it's free for them all. They have to go to our site under our beekeeper program and apply and we will take a look at what you need, what we're doing. And when we supply that to you, it's at no charge to the beekeepers. That's the whole purpose of this, is to look after the beekeepers.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. It's very good. Very good. Yeah. What's the latest? I know you guys, this is bee time and you probably got some really good feedback and that's amazing that everyone should be aware that whenever you make a purchase, it's helping beekeepers because they get the product. All they have to do is write in and they'll get a free sample.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah. And. And it's not only that we provide seeds for pollination, we provide queens and nukes. It's a full service and we do it worldwide. We have beekeepers all over the world now. It's in. We're in Africa, we are in Australia, we are in Hawaii, all through the states, all through Canada, Europe. So this is really exciting of what's happened. It's really taking off and this year is expanding more. So we like to show everybody it's nice to talk about it. You and I have been talking about it, I think for the last six months and it's been real pleasurable. But then it's okay. We talked about it, but where's the action? So we'd like to show some of that as to what the beekeepers think of it and what's going on.

[Lexi]

My name is Lexi and I am with sweet swarms and clucks. And today is exciting because I have received my two pure weight cells. So first and foremost I would like to thank four RB's as well as all of the very important supporters that are making this important research possible. I feel very blessed to be a part of this program. I will be utilizing both a vertical as well as a horizontal placement of the pure wave cell inside my hands to see whether or not that has an impact. We already know that the pure wave cell is doing phenomenal things from the research that we're seeing. So more to come. Stay tuned.

[Unnamed Beekeeper/Technician]

These would perfectly equal sized nucs control highs. Pure wave cell highs. I think a pretty similar easy going temperament. It's about 85 degrees at the moment. And look at that. All the same. Cool. I have built out honeycomb. Yeah. If you want to fold that in the sun, show me that other side. We got grudging, really solid breed Pattern. I'm really happy with these queen bees here. These are our Russian corneola Genetics. Van Nevrider in Woodland, California. Here they are. I'm going to show us that other side of the. It's really beautiful. All right. They're digging the pure weave cell, folks. It's our early perspective, and we will continue to study the effectiveness of the pure racel in Marconius.

[Unnamed Honey Harvester]

Okay, today we harvested honey from the hive that we have the magnet in. And I want to show you what we got from it. We got all those jars from it, and let me tell you, we. We looked in the super, and there wasn't any honey in it. They were working in it, but there wasn't any honey in it. So what we did, we took four panels out of the regular hive, and we processed them, and this is what we got just from those four panels. Now I have the magnet in there with it, and when I store it, I'm going to store the magnet in there with it so that it energizes my honey.

[Unnamed Beekeeper/Technician]

This one's the control eye of the one that I put back in October. So, as you can see, this is my control hive one over here, where it seems to be. This is the one with my pure wave sirlin. And the front just seems to be always that little bit stronger of them coming in and out there. Looking great.

[Michael Jacob]

Okay, so this is Hive 3. This is a pure wave hive. Looking really good. That brood pattern's looking fantastic.

[Unnamed Beekeeper/Technician]

Let me get this rested here so I can point.

[Michael Jacob]

We've got some queen cells already.

[Unnamed Beekeeper/Technician]

We're at.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, look at them. We're at the end of April. They look at all these cups right down through there. There's a cup there. Bunch of cups.

[Unnamed Hive Observer]

We've got an update from the pure wave cell. I had a cell place I had added another box. And then this morning, I noticed all the bees out of this hive had swarmed, and they traveled from here all the way up to the tippy top of this tree and were swarmed up there. Not more than half hour later, they're back in the hive. So they decided, apparently, the pure wave cell was worth coming back for. So I think that's pretty cool. I've never, ever had that happen. Usually they swarm and they're gone, but I guess they're gonna need another box. So I guess I'll have to do that soon.

[Brent]

All right.

[Unnamed Hive Observer]

Just thought I'd share this. This is pretty cool.

[Michael Jacob]

Wow. Wow. That's incredible. I love that.

[Brent]

Is that great?

[Michael Jacob]

Good stuff.

[Brent]

Yeah. There's Nothing like in life. There's nothing like when we are trying to do something, or you and I are talking about it, or we're discussing it, and then we ourselves as well as everybody can go out and see it in a variety. We have another 10 that we could show or another 20 or another 30. And people from all over coming with the same conclusions of different ways as to how that's helping their hives, how it's making their hives calmer, easier to work with, producing more honey. So it's like the joy of all joy to see it come from nature in the field working. And of course, I. We talked about why it works. But make no mistake, if it's doing that for the bees, what's it doing for us as well? We're all connected. And of course, what it is building up the immune systems of the bees. That's what it's doing. And then that allows the bees to do all the magnificent things they do. It's the same for us if you build up a really strong immune system in us. Look at when we feel good and we're energy and we're strong. Look what people do. They're magnificent. They create, they go out and they produce. So it's the same thing. And that's why it's so effective for people to use it for themselves.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, very good. And I was question. I have baby ducks, and they are so off. They're so skittish that I was wondering

[Brent]

if this would help explain it to me what baby ducks are like. You have them in the lake or where's the ducks?

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. So Dakota, if you can answer that. So they're skittish. I would say probably that would. This would calm them down. But where would you put it in relationship to these? Are they in certain location and so forth? So maybe you could put. Maybe you could put it there actually.

[Brent]

Where do they sleep? Where do the. Where do the ducks usually at night they're going to somewhere that would be the spot. Because it's always great to be somewhere where you're resting, where you're. Where they're resting. So wherever you would find that to be. Same as your animals. Cats, dogs. It's amazing when this is under their. Under their bed, pillow, all of this kind of stuff. It's amazing what starts to happen with your pets. We have all kinds of testimonials with pets as well. So the ducks, would it just put it where they're sleeping or resting or where they spend time not running around?

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, definitely. That's good. That's a good point. So I sleep with the. I know you do as well. You sleep with the Pure Wave cell. And it's. It's very calming. I get really good sleep. I was. I'm always a good sleeper, but I feel like I. I have even deeper sleep. I take it with me. We're just in a hotel room for a few days at an event, and I took it there, I was sleeping with it there. So I think it really makes a difference.

[Brent]

Yeah, people might be hearing you and say, hey, a good night's sleep. People have to understand that when you get a good night's sleep, that's when all your healing takes place, is when you're sleeping. That's when you're in a fourth dimensional state. That's a fact. That's. That's why they always say, when the doctor says, take this and then go get lots of rest. It's. The rest is where the healing takes place. Right. So when you're getting a good night's sleep, what again? The Pure Wave cell is not fixing something in your body that's wrong. What it's doing, it's giving you the break or the resistance or the interference so that you can rest and then the body now can go fix it. So the body then is like, oh, okay, we'll start. And that's why some people are so strong and healthy based on what they're doing in the environment. And other people are constantly weaker based on what they're doing in environment. And so that's why the sleep is so important. You can't, you can't discount really good sleep. You have no idea how many people have sleep problems. It's way beyond what people understand. And it'll take. We've had two cases where young boys had nightmares nonstop. And those went away and they were in two different countries. And again, that's just interference. It's not like the Pure Wave sells a miracle. It took away the knife. It just allowed them not to have that chaotic. Whatever was bothering. That's why it's really great to be able to use the Pure Wave, sell it. And also when you go in restaurants, you were talking about being away, restaurant food coming out. Just, just put your plate on the restaurant burger or whatever you're having. You don't know what's going on in the kitchen there or what's happening. So you just have that on there. And it neutralizes different pathogens in the food. Just five minutes. So it has many uses.

[Michael Jacob]

Many uses.

[Unnamed Beekeeper/Technician]

Yeah.

[Michael Jacob]

I just had. We just had A couple steaks that were really superior cuts of meat. You know, I've had good cuts of meat. Grill them up. They're kind of. They're great. A little bit better than the average gut. But these last cuts that I had, and there were tomahawk steaks, and we put them on the pur Wave overnight in the fridge. And when we. I. That was one of the best pieces of meat I have ever had. It was, like, incredible. A piece of meat that you probably pay three, four times what I paid for it in a restaurant. It was incredible. And I attribute it to the pure wave cell. Yeah.

[Brent]

Just remember, meat like us, it's full of cells. It's full of. It's full of. And it's full of other things like parasites, pathogens, all kinds of things. So when you start to get that all worked out and neutralize when it Also. When it goes in your body, it's just. Your body has less to deal with. Right. In your digestion and everything, because it's not fighting off some of these other viruses or pathogens or frequencies that the body doesn't like. So all these things add to good health. And what I love about it is so simple to use. It's like you also use it for your plants. So do I. And that. That is another whole thing. And it's just. It's versatile. It's easy to use. There's nothing to plug in. There's no power source. It's just one of those unique situations that you can just use it in your life every day. Yeah.

[Michael Jacob]

Looks at. Lisa gave us a little. Looks like something on the sleeve. There it is.

[Brent]

That would be way. But many ways in putting. Whether your coffee or water, using it when you're around WI Fi.

[Unnamed Honey Harvester]

Oh, wow.

[Brent]

That's beautiful to sit on it, too, because now you don't even know all day you're getting it.

[Michael Jacob]

These are great ideas. I love this. And there it is in the pack. Just take it where. Wherever you are.

[Brent]

And that pack, you can put it around your gut for gut health. Just what she's doing. Because gut health is a biggie. And it's. We have practitioners that use it specifically for gut health. Your pets come in from outside. They're bringing in parasites. They're just bringing it in. Right. And this allows you to neutralize this inside the body.

[Michael Jacob]

Very good. Wow. Yeah. Great ideas. I love this.

[Brent]

Yeah. See, you can put it right in your crisper, too. These are just show. Yeah. There's your restaurant. Right.

[Michael Jacob]

There you go.

[Brent]

There's your plants.

[Michael Jacob]

Oh, yeah. Our orchids love the life wave.

[Brent]

But you don't want to forget about your pets. Right. Because hey, they're right there with you when they're, when they're hurting a little bit as they're older. It's nice to.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And if you isolate a fish into a fishbowl, you can use it for your fish as well.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. And we have crystals. Normally we use the crystals to protect us and give us energy and so forth. We put the, the pure cell on the crystals as well. Just like you're showing all the water and all that's. Everything is going to be beneficial, more beneficial when you use it with a pure wave.

[Brent]

Let me just tell you a little about that. What you just said that. So for. We had a couple of energetic practitioners that worked with energetic mats like PEMF mats, Pulse elect magnetic mats or grounding sheet, where you could bring those in and you can do different frequencies and they have coils in the mats to then give you those frequencies into the body. And it's very proven. NASA has 50 year studies on what that will do. What they found out by putting the pure wave cell on the mat where those elevations were coming, it magnified the healing five times. So they have. We'll have groups of people that take those and put them with the mats. They'll take four or five and they put them on. And the reports coming from that are amazing. Now we never thought about that. That was something that was done separate from us. And we get that every day where somebody. You'll see a five pack being sold and we know it's going out to one of these PMF mats and they're using it for what, for a better, for lack of a better word, like med beds, medical bed, like med beds, frequency beds. But it's phenomenal. It will magnify something that's good anyway.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, I never thought about using it with, with that technology. So I'll definitely.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Michael Jacob]

Pull it in with that too. So someone has asked so why we're on that, the frequency devices. Someone's asking, would it magnify red light therapy now that.

[Brent]

See, I don't know. I don't know if it would because we never have done any tests or anything to do there. And red. But red light is coming off of a certain spectrum and frequency that's doing onto there and I'd love somebody to try that. But usually red light is used. Usually it's in a. Some kind of a mask or it's in some kind of a format. But if they Somehow, if they could. I'm just trying to think of like how people use red light on the body and on the face and how they would integrate the pure wave cell into that. So would that be on the outside? Because a lot of that's equipment oriented too. And. But I would love it if somebody would do some testing where maybe they put the pure wave cell on it, on them, and then did the red light over top of it. It might be something we look into, but I don't have any data to say, hey, yeah, that's. We've checked that out.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. And there's someone asking me about gut health. A lot of people talking about that now. And when I sleep, I keep it right there around my gut. And that's amazing. So I've had gut issues on and off over time, done several different things to treat it. But I think a pure wave cell is one of the best things that I've done. And I. If there's any other body that I have problem, I'll put it there. But it's incredible.

[Brent]

And use the fanny pack. See the. Because what it is, it'll go right through that. But you want to be able to hold it in a location so if you're sleeping, you don't want it falling off. So that's why we've introduced like the fanny pack. Something to put it in that it fits, that you can tie. Or if you. Let's say you have swelling, let's say if you're a tennis player or you play football or you're playing baseball and you have a swell swollen. The best thing you can do with that pure wave cell is put it right on the swelling swollen area. But also then you put it in motion. In other words, don't just sit it, move it like in a circle. Now it kicks in the motion and you'll find it's fantastic for reducing inflammation. And then afterwards you can tie it on there. It'll speed up that healing, but speeds up. It's perfect for things like inflammation. It was made for that.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. Good. Yeah. These technologies are amazing. It's just reaction, restimulating, re recombining, re recalibrating our own cells because our own cells are like we talked before, like the flower of life. It's basically the same patterning. So that's. So just be thinking on those lines and everything that you're putting it next to, around or on or whatever. It's calibrating something that may be off or giving you better wellness, giving your plants more wellness. Our plants are like prolific. So it's there. They're incredible. I've never seen. We have Tracy, we. She adds a little rose bush she bought a year or so ago and it's been doing well. But once we put the pure wave next to it, it's. It is just taken off to the moon and it had a little rose here. There. Now we're going to have some. Probably a dozen longstand roses off a small little plant that you normally give somebody and they don't last. This one has. Unbelievable. We have to put another pot and everything. So it's incredible.

[Brent]

You know what it is? So let's just get. Let's put it into some kind of perspective what your cells are. And not just ours, but insects, reptiles and plants. They're like. Picture them like little batteries. That's what they are. They're like little charged batteries. Now here's the factual. If a cell is below 30% or 25% charged, in other words, it's weakened down to. That's when things like cancers can form. They're basically. Think about it. Nature feeds on the weak. No matter where you look on. Nature feeds on what's weak. That's what it does. Whether it's hunting, whether it's. Whether you're. The varroa mite comes to the weakened bee. Nature is designed to take out the weak. That's how it. That's how it operates, right? So that it balances. So if your battery and your cells are weakened down there, that's when they're susceptible. If the fact is, if a cell is overcharged 40%, that cell will not get cancer. It's just it because it doesn't get fed on. It's not because it's a miracle or it just doesn't get fed on. That's why there's almost no non. Almost non existent heart cancer. There's no such thing as heart cancer because it's your highest electrical field, right? It's the high energy of where your vibe's coming from. So cells, what we. All we want to do is use the frequencies that the cells respond to. So I always say, why did we pick this shape here? People say, yeah, wait, look at this. This is how we all started. So under mitosis. Michael, you and I started as a one cell right here. And the first thing we did in mitosis is go into this geometric form. That's the code. That is the blueprint of what the cells respond to geometrically or in a geometric form. Now we see it everywhere in nature. Snowflakes Flowers, hives. You see it in religious. In the windows. You're going to see all of these kinds of things. But what it really is about ourselves ourself, how we all start. And I'll tell you what, if I showed you a frog, and you and I, we all look like that in the first five, and then we go into our genetics. So it's. That's why the geometry matters. Now. The magnets are all about holding that geometry. So you get the shape, but it goes chaotic. If you don't hold it, it's shaped and then it's not shaped. So what we want to do is lock that in and that's where the magnets come in. And they lock in that frequency because we put them in the casing as we. We can show people what that looks like. And we put them in the casing and then they're locked in. We open. If you opened your pure wave cell, those magnets would jump out and take your finger apart. They're so strong, they're 4,000 gauze per pedal, which is 48,000 gauze per pure wave cell. And so this powerhouse within, about a foot, and then it dissipates. That's why we've tested it. It's doing this all the time, but it's consistent because of the magnets and the shape.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. And if you want to know how powerful those magnets are, just put it next to some metallic structure and it'll be. It'll last on Boom. Yep.

[Brent]

Boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A funny story. The gentleman that builds it, Rafi, our builder, we have to do it by hand because machines do not do well with magnets. Magnets will mess up. A machine like you won't believe. It'll just. It'll destroy it. So we have to do it by hand. And many a time his finger has been pinched.

[Unnamed Beekeeper/Technician]

Right.

[Brent]

Trying getting this stuff. And then one will come up and it's boom. It's just. And you under a table, under a full table, you'll have these magnets and they'll just be like, boom. They go through everything. And they're Earth magnets, so they're coming at that. That 7.4 hertz, but they're just super strong. And then we need to get a frequency. And that's where the geometry comes in. Right.

[Michael Jacob]

That's incredible. Yeah. Keeping that in mind, it would be beneficial on a lot of different things. I'm recalibrating how I'm going to be using it. I won't use that pouch now. I haven't really used the pouch yet, but it's going to go on some places now.

[Brent]

So it's really good to locate, especially if you have any swelling or something like that. Definitely get it there that it's brilliant for things like inflammation and stuff like that. It's perfect for that. I don't know if we have or Lisa could bring up what the cell looks like inside so the people. So your viewers can actually see the magnets because they're not. They see the outside, but they're not seeing what's in there. And they're dotted with what's called a north and south polarity. So when you. When I put them in there, that's where the power comes from because just like north and south polarity, that's why they want to come together like crazy. Just. They just. They're just. It's so a miracle to see distances where there's nothing in between. And you feel this power force that's invisible, basically. And that's why Earth magnets is why I picked them. Now, neodymium magnets will hold that strength for 20 years, whereas a normal magnet would be more like five years. There it is. Now, can you see, Michael, the red dots? Can you see some red dots in the center? So that's how precise it is. It's not just goofy.

[Unnamed Beekeeper/Technician]

They.

[Brent]

Those red dots allow the builder to know how to set these for north and south. Now you see how the frequency is showing around. That's exactly how it works. It creates a toro field around that, what looks like a simple encased disc, but that's what it's doing all the time. It's all the time. And that is what's affecting you. That's what's affecting the bees.

[Michael Jacob]

Wow, that's beautiful. Yep. It's been like you said, religions have had this symbology and. And so forth. How I've seen it in Egypt on the temple walls where they've. Some people bring it up like you have and depressive for a reason, but here we are and it has multiple functions. Now, I know it's pretty much for the bees, but it's for everything really.

[Brent]

Because you mentioned Egypt. It's way older than that. It comes out of Sumeria. Sumerians in Persia were using it long before the Egyptians. The Egypt came after that. And then of course, that's why Rome has it in the Roman Catholic Church, because that all came out of Egypt. All of that technology came to Rome when they were invading Egypt and did that. And then of course, when. When the Romans embraced Christianity they brought it straight into the Roman Catholic Church. That's why it's everywhere. It's everywhere in all their aspects because it's that knowledge is what they brought forward and then they put it into a dogmatic religions and that's why you'll see it everywhere. Churches are just filled with it in their windows in. You'll see it. You'll see it on, on. On their. On their. Stat there. What's it, what's it called that I'm looking for? If you go and I do have a picture of it. If you were ever to go into the Masonic lodge head the head Masonic Lodge in Philadelphia. Right. And I know we have a picture and while we're talking if Lisa can find. It's mind blowing because in this Masonic Lodge the. This is everywhere because it was brought from the Templars and it's locked in because it's all about frequency and that's where their knowledge comes from. It all came from that east and through into Europe through the Templars. Right. And those are whole other stories and wars have been fought about them. But you should see what this looks like. We were lucky enough to get pictures inside and it is spectacular. It confirms all the things that we're talking about. This is that sacred knowledge or that secret knowledge? This is what this stuff is. Yeah. Here I think. There you go. So it's right above the chair. Right. You have the star tetrahedron right here. Right. But above that you look at above that. Then if you see further over you're going to actually see the flower of life as you get around the building. But it is abso. Yeah, here we go. So that's right in their windows. That's right in the windows that I was talking about. That would seem like nothing to people when they're looking at it, but now they understand what they're really talking about. They're talking about frequency and how it's used and how we're constructed and where we come from.

[Michael Jacob]

Right.

[Brent]

That's what. That's how important it is, basically. Beautiful stuff. Beautiful stuff.

[Michael Jacob]

Very cool. I had no idea it was that widespread. So thanks for that. I love history and you just gave us a very nice history lesson. Very good.

[Brent]

Yeah. We could do a whole show just on that stuff. Just bringing it straightforward so people understand how incredibly important that is and how secret, why it was kept secret and so forth. It's not kept secret from the people that are high end using it. That's for sure.

[Michael Jacob]

That and yeah. But for the. You're not learning that in school, if you're not doing your own research. I've stumbled upon it through other people that are into sacred geometry and so forth and spirituality. So I crept into it from that, and I started to see it in other places. I started seeing it in New Mexico, and there's. I can't remember the tribe that's in New Mexico.

[Brent]

But would it be the. Would it be the Hopies?

[Michael Jacob]

Could be the. Could have been the Hopi. Yeah, probably Hopi. And they had it. I was up in a very obscure area of New Mexico, and because I like to do that, go to places most people don't go. And there was a little shop and they had a plate that had the Flower of Life on it. It wasn't like you normally see it, like in Egypt or something like that, but I said, oh, the Flower of Life. So you guys know the Flower of Life, too? And she looked at me.

[Unnamed Hive Observer]

She.

[Michael Jacob]

You know about that?

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah. Because there's a really cool Hopi saying. There's actually a movie out that Francis Ford Coppola did in the 90s. It's called Koyana Scassi Koyaniskasi, which means in Hopi, Life out of Balance. And what he did is he took it from the beginning and how things were forming, and then he started to speed it up, and then he took it into the. Into the modern life, but at super speeds. And eventually you were looking at highways. They were like blood vessels moving, right? And then all of a sudden, you saw buildings. They looked like computer chips and all kinds of things, right. And stuff. So it was a different perspective. And it was done in the 90s. It's a fabulous. And it's called. For anybody that's interested. It's called Koyo Niskasi by Francis for. And it's in the 90s. But it was taking all this geometry of what all the Hopis and a lot of other native Indians were using to understand how to work with nature, because we always have to get back. You and I talked about this before. When we're not working with nature, which is a lot of what we're doing right now, we're not working with it, we're working against it. So the people that I used to go see in gardens where they were working against nature, like beautiful flowers that shouldn't have been in those areas, they're working their ass off all day to keep these things up, right? And then I'd go to another place where they're working with nature. Very little work. It's all working by itself. Right. And that's what we are. If you want to go against nature, you're going to be working your ass off and struggling. If you work with it and you figure out how to do that, life becomes a breeze. You're working with it now. And that's the same with our health and everything.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, very good. So it was the Zuni tribe in Santa Fe. So they have pueblos and so forth. I was exploring the pueblos, and so they had that on their pottery and stuff. So I thought it was very interesting. So probably very widespread. I think the. The Shoshone, I think I've seen it with. In their pottery as well. So many of the. I think the Southwest Indian tribes were into it.

[Brent]

It's everywhere. It's even in. In the Eastern tribes. It's also down in South America. It's all through. It's all through Africa. It's all through. It's everywhere. It's just that people, for heaven's sakes, it's on our corporations. If you look at Walmart, it has the six points right there. Right. People don't know what they're looking at. They're looking at the six points. That's what they're looking at. When you look at other corporations, they have the pentagram, like Chrysler has the five points, but has the Pentagon. So all these things are in there based on coming out of natural forces. Now how do we use those natural forces? So I didn't want to become an expert on sacred geometry. There's amazing people for that or religions or so forth. I was particularly interested in how to use them for my own benefit and then benefit us. And then it turned into this. But I was looking for results. What can we get out of it as opposed to just stare at it and wonder what we're looking at. Right. So that. That's the path I went and I stayed in that lane.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. And there's an author drum that did the. A couple different books on the flyer of life. And he goes deep into all that we. I've done events with him and. Or been to events with him. And I used to live. I think he still does lives in Sedona where I lived for several years. So we would run into him occasionally. But yeah, there's a lot of people out there that are very well versed in that. But you. I love it when someone takes it on the scientific level like you do, because I'm have a very strong scientific bent, but I'm also very spiritual. So combining those is a gateway for a lot of people. You're doing an excellent job. Thank you.

[Unnamed Beekeeper/Technician]

And.

[Brent]

And thank you. But exactly on that. Because we all have different words maybe for God and different. Right. And mine is the universal intelligence. That's what I. That's my name for God. Because that is the intelligence that knows everything that ever existed, ever will. And it. It is dealing with frequency. That's. It is dealing with quantum physics and frequency. And when you work with that, when you work with the creator or what people are referring to as God, your life is amazing when you're working against it. It's a hard deal. It's a hard. It's a hard life when you're working against it. And that intelligence is dying to support you. It really is. It just. It's dying to come in and support. But there's many factors as to why people are so distracted. Right. Because just like in that magnet, you have positive and negative. So you could also call that good and evil. Positive, negative, good, evil. And these forces are fighting. They're fighting right now. These battles are being fought right. While we're speaking and we're subject to it.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. And having the pure wave technology helps keep us nice and balanced. Get affected as much as much, because it's going to happen. You have to have your resources to help you through it. And of course, the honey we eat, the honey every day is the best honey I've ever had. No, nothing comes close to it. And it's energized, so it's energized honey. So tell us a little bit how you guys do that. It's pretty incredible.

[Brent]

The first thing, it was a byproduct of what we were doing. You saw a little bit in the video earlier, everybody saw that. The one lady that was talking about the honey that came out of the pure wave, pure wave high. So that was happening regularly by. So we were dealing with the commercial beekeepers. And I said, I want the honey out of those hives, the hives that you are putting the pure wave cell on. I want to buy that honey. And we pay more for that honey than anybody else to the beekeeper. So it's like fair trade. They're getting more for their efforts. Then we take that honey out of those hives, and I have the mothership of the pure wave cell, which is an instrument that has many pure wave cells in it. And it spins and I can control frequencies, Earth frequency. And then we treat the honey after. First of all, we cream the honey so we won't heat it so it doesn't lose Any enzymes, it stays completely and it's a more textured honey. And then we treat it with the chrysalis E, which is a larger version of the pure wave cell. And we have videos. If they go on our site and look at the honey, they can get all of that. And what happens is this honey become super energized so that when you're eating it, honey's fabulous anyway. But what happens is by. By putting it to this frequency, which is like a little arc of the covenant. It. This honey just. It's seamless to the body when it comes into you, the properties. Just so I really recommend everybody do not put that honey in hot water. Eat it or put it on. Put it on food, but don't put it in your tea. Use another sweetener for that because it'll destroy the enzymes that are in there. And try to use a wooden spoon as well as opposed to a metal spoon, and then you'll get the full benefits of that honey. And for gut health, amazing. For circulation, blood sugar, it's just incredible. Honey is. Anyway, wow. A little bit of. Yeah, I'm losing you a little bit, Michael. Just. Maybe it's slower on your Internet at your end, but it seems you've slowed right down.

[Michael Jacob]

There we go. So, hey, you're back.

[Brent]

You're back.

[Michael Jacob]

We did. We just.

[Brent]

You were talking about the honey. We lost you. Yeah, we lost you during the honey.

[Michael Jacob]

So we, we talk about how there's interferences and my show sometimes get interference and I just move to a different frequency. So I don't like to say which one it is the way they will, they'll sabotage that one as well. But yeah, this is obviously very incredible information and it's. Why would you want to sabotage this or keep this from the general population? Why do you think that is, Brent?

[Brent]

Okay, let's separate it. I'll tell you a big reason. We live right now, health wise, in the world of what's called chemistry, right? So that's pharmaceuticals. Now it wasn't that long ago until they used to do exploratory surgery. We all understand that. Well, they used to cut you open to find out what was wrong with you. That was what, years ago they did. But now they use frequency medicine. So MRIs, CAT scans, right? So we go in and get diagnosed now using frequency medicine. So that's physics. But as soon as they go to treat you, they're right back to chemicals. Boom. We're right back into pharmaceuticals. Now why is a pharmaceutical. It's not that it doesn't Go and perform a miracle like get rid of pain or it does certain specific things. But a chemical can never work the same way with nature because the body doesn't recognize it. That's why there's side effects. It'll do one thing and then that's why every drug almost has side effects where they read them off like crazy, right? So when you start to treat with frequency, food is a frequency, or we're talking pure way cell or you're talking med beds or PMF mats. When you treat with frequency, there's no side effects. It's having an effect on the body naturally. But that's physics. So why you asked, why do they hide, manipulate it's super amounts of money by working in the chemical world, right? If that, that's where you get to, that's where you get to have something buying a person, buying from you over and over and over again, right? To do. And like I know so many older people that they're on five different drugs or they're on five different things now. And I say this, I in April I turned 70, so I hit my 70th birthday and when I go and get treated and I'm look, I on supplement, they always say to me, why are you not on any meds? Because there's a sheet that you're supposed to fill out on meds. And I've never been on any meds and I'm not on any meds. I don't need meds because I'll use supplements and I'll work. So I get more magnesium in the body or get more zinc or get more minerals in the body. Because I read this amazing book called Dead Doctors Don't Lie, right? And I didn't realize that the average allopathic doctor age they die at 55, right? And I thought I'm not taking advice from somebody who's checking out at 55. So basically you get, you have, you're responsible for educating yourself on what you need to do and why you're getting things and so forth. But we all know people that they're on so many different. They're walking drugstores, right? But that's why, that's why this information is not popular. It's. And of course all doctors go through university, which is all tied in. It's all tied into the same thing now. It's starting to change. It's starting to change where you're having outside dog going hey, maybe there's a better way or blending it, right?

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, very good. That was an excellent explanation and that's. YouTube is funded mostly by Big Farm. So that's why they might have a problem with this information. Although it's very. We're trying to help the bees. YouTube, come on. We might get some benefit too. So don't worry. We're not really promoting that. Yes we are.

[Brent]

But two each is old. But what I'm saying is that we have to start looking at building the body up and working so it's preventative. We're really talking preventative here. And that's always good and that's always with good foods and what we're talking about here. But you asked why information is kept or whatever. It has various reasons for that. Right. That we'll leave it at that. And it's a marvelous when people start to understand but they have to understand it for themselves. And I'm not telling anybody what to do or not to do. I'm just talking about what we're experiencing and other. Other alternatives to ways to. But we. I'll tell you what nobody can argue is we have to get rid of the distractions around us. That that is a fact. That this is not good health wise for us is all the stuff that's coming at us. Right. Whether that be physical or social media. And that's where humans are different bees than bees because we have emotional and mental issues where the bees don't. It's all physical. So that, that's why I went with the bees because I get the best results. It's amazing, right?

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, it's incredible. So the, the website is very easy to remember4rbs.com as you see right top here and there's lots of information on here if you want more information. You want. You're spending your money wisely for yourself and for the bees. So the bees, we need the bees and the bees are under attack just like we're under attack. So helping, helping yourself and helping the bees basically in the long run helps all of us.

[Brent]

Yeah, no, that's well said. And every once in a while we have someone out there does an amazing thing and one of our customers sent us this amazing song that they created through AI but it's amazing and it's on the PureWave cell and we thought that your audience might like to hear it. We were blown away by it and it could be a way that we end this to give something back to everybody.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. And yeah definitely Lisa's putting here in the chat. Don't take our word for it. Review the research and decide for yourself. So, yeah, we've given everybody on these shows lots of good information. But yeah, some people like to, like, I know I'm going to the grocery or the health food store and I'm going to get some vitamins or zinc or whatever. And I like to, I like to look at all the different. There's. I don't know if you've been to the health food store lately or the vitamin store, but there's 15 different brands of zinc now, at least.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Michael Jacob]

And they all, they're all like different types and all kind of crazy stuff. So I like to read up on it and I think that's, that's what we're going to. We're going to see.

[Brent]

One thing we could say on that, just because you brought that up, is it's all about absorption. It's all well and good. So what I would say to everybody, just make sure that whatever you pick to bring in, make sure you absorb. I like liquid versus capsules and things only because of absorption. Because if it's not getting in your body to the cells, it's just being eliminated out. You're not getting any value. Right. So it's really about getting minerals in your body. And if you get the minerals in the body and you have good frequencies around you, you would be incredibly amazed at what happens and what the body is capable of doing to get you back in shape.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, very good. So that's good advice. I never even thought of that.

[Brent]

Yeah, it's all about absorption. It's all about getting minerals back into your body. Because your food, it's not working that way. You're getting some. But when you're missing or particularly as you get older, when you're deficient, you want to get those into the body. And like, for example, if people are having poor circulation in their legs and stuff, if they go to the medical, they'll immediately start recommending different types of drugs and so forth. But if they all of a sudden start taking magnesium and zinc in the right forms, get it in, that'll all go away. That, that will simply go away. So it's, it's all about, as you said, studying, investigating and educating yourself and taking a little responsibility for your health. It is your health. It's pretty important, right?

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, definitely. It looks like Lisa is having a little trouble getting in here. Is that on the, the website that,

[Brent]

that song, it is a beat. No, it wouldn't be on the website. We had it onto there. See if she can get on because it would help. It would certainly Help. Sound wise for everybody to hear? I think they'd enjoy it. She. Is she disconnected? Is it because you switched over? Is that why she's having a hard time getting in or.

[Michael Jacob]

Oh, she's been back and forth in. This has happened with her a couple times, I think. Yeah.

[Brent]

Oh, is it. So your parents trying to get in?

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Michael Jacob]

She's here right now. She drops at it, and we'll. We'll put it up and play it.

[Brent]

Yeah, if she. She's listening. I'm sure she's trying to get that going. It'd be. No, I think you'd. Everybody would really enjoy it, and it would just make your day. No, I can't get on, so I'm not sure if. If she's.

[Michael Jacob]

I'll see if I can.

[Brent]

Oh, she emailed it to you? I don't know. Does that mean you can put it up or.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, possibly. We'll go over and check.

[Brent]

Yeah, let's see. See if it's by Sano and it should appear with, like, a Toro kind of looking thing. Are you seeing an email made by

[Michael Jacob]

Pure Wave Cell Song?

[Brent]

Yes, that's it.

[Michael Jacob]

Okay, let me see.

[Brent]

See if you can get. Yeah, and click that. Just click the actual icon or the. Yeah, click that and then that should. We should be able to. Should be able to get rid of that. And I don't know what it's asking you there, but.

[Michael Jacob]

There it is.

[Brent]

Oh, okay. There it is. And then click the icon again up there or something.

[Michael Jacob]

I don't know.

[Brent]

If you click the picture, it usually comes on. Yeah. Are you able. Oh, here. Can you hear it?

[Unnamed Singer/Poet]

In the garden softly beneath the morning sun the sacred pattern started with creation be done 12 magnets turn inside in a circle.

[Brent]

Yeah, I'm not getting the full sound of it with the music. Yeah, it's a beautiful tune if you can actually get.

[Unnamed Singer/Poet]

Whispering. To frequencies to appear the foam to hold and every wing that trembles in the meadow's living spell can feel the pulse awakening from the pure the audience has got it.

[Lexi]

Stop.

[Unnamed Singer/Poet]

Bees become the messengers of harmony and grace Carrying golden sunlight from place to sacred place Every flower opens wider Every season starts to sing Quantum echoes ripple through the beating heart of spring we all engine all creations the quiet living time hidden Forcing resonance the universe can hide like starlight folded in with. 12.0 intention my savior loved the ancient wisdom Meeting the future of our time the be know the language the flowers understand the frequency of balance moving through them. The squire begins sending hope Fragile worlds to thine.

[Michael Jacob]

Wow, that Is amazing song. Very good.

[Brent]

I hope it sounded better for you. It doesn't sound great for me. I was cut off. But did it sound okay?

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, sounded really good. Everybody loved it.

[Brent]

Good. Yeah. That was given to us. So that wasn't something we produced. It was. It was somebody who felt so connected to the pure witch that they. They created that.

[Michael Jacob]

That's beautiful.

[Brent]

Yeah, beautiful. So it's a gift for us to get it and a gift to let your people hear it.

[Michael Jacob]

Very nice. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. Yep. Again, 4rbs.com and Jayco j c o b e e Jacob for 20 off. Guys, you want to try the honey? At the least, you try the honey. And then pure wave cell. Some people are saying they're living in apartments, but they're gonna make the big move to get it. I think it's going to make a difference. Who knows? Maybe it'll attract wealth to you. So it's a frequency. Yeah.

[Brent]

Just let us know what. What experience, because we get that all the time. So it's just a gift. It's a gift for you and to the bees.

[Michael Jacob]

Very good. All right, Brent, and thanks. Lisa in the background for all your work too. And always appreciate these shows. Very informative and helping humanity, not just we the people, but also the bee family. So thanks so much.

[Brent]

Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing and letting us share what we're doing and giving back. And thank you to your audience.

[Michael Jacob]

Thank you.