A (2:20)

Yeah. So the gravy ritual, for those of you who haven't read the book yet, you're going to read that and you're going be like, holy moly. Oh, my God. So I'm. I'm going to read a little piece of the prologue to your book. Writing this book was difficult. I can imagine. And we'll. We'll talk a little bit about that because I've had difficulty revealing, too, and I think that's part of their programming they do on us. It is based on actual events of real life that most people do not know about. For some of us, real life is infested with sketchy, gratuitous sex, demonic homosexual perversions, secret rituals, and bloody rites of passage that are way beyond what most people can even imagine. My approach to writing this book was to not tone down anything, to tell it all. I know you meant that. You say that there, but I'm sure you probably tone it down to a certain extent.

B (3:14)

The editors made me.

A (3:17)

Yeah, I. I'm sure. I'm sure there was a lot of stuff I wanted to put in my books that the editor was like, no, we're not going to put that in there. But, yeah, I'm with you. Have you ever considered selling your soul to Lucifer by participating in the gravy rituals? And I had no idea what the gravy ritual was. And when I heard that, I was like, holy smokes. Smokes.

B (3:35)

But it.

A (3:35)

It's real. And these are the things that, you know, we've heard about, you know, the. The crazy stuff, the adrenochrome. And I've had people on that talked about having used adrenochrome and what they did, what they experienced. I was like, holy smokes. These people are on a different plane. And you were exposed to him. So tell us a little bit, you know, how that worked. I mean, you're. You're obviously an incredibly brilliant guy, and probably from the early stages, they recognized that and started to target you. Is that kind of what you experience?

B (4:06)

Not really. That's really not. That's not the way any. By the way, anyone in. Anyone in Hollywood or the music industry knows what the gravy ritual is. They've all been through it. You. You can't get to where they are without going to that. I mean, that. And that's the first and the simplest one to go through. But, you know, a lot of gals, a lot of people Gals, especially, women especially, they go to Hollywood and they think all they got to do is announce that they're there to sell their soul and the contracts will come. That's not the way it works. There's nobody really waiting for you. It's a system, the system, you know, it's America. When I landed at Silicon Valley, it was a strange time in America. It was during the 60s and 70s, so it was a sexual revolution. It was just taking off. LBT movement hadn't even started yet. 9, 11, of course, hadn't started. And you know, people were pretty, people were relaxed and it was sort of a party atmosphere, especially in California. And I grew up on my grandfather's very large commercial hook branch. We bred and boarded and raised and trained and showed Tennessee Walkers the two most famous orchestras in the world. Sugar and Silver are Tennessee Walkers. And we had clients like man, Ronald, Nancy Reagan. So it was a very party atmosphere. By the time I got to Silicon Valley, the era was, well, you could cultivate any path you wanted, and especially if you want to be a billionaire, there was a path in Silicon Valley where you could start. And that was the path I wanted to be on. I wanted to be, I had an aptitude for math and physics. I wanted to be a, I wanted to study physics. But my physics professor told me, nah, you're too ambitious, you're just going to be a professor. You need to go into computer science and make money. But that's how I ended up in Silicon, basically how I ended up in Silicon Valley. He helped me get, I was a high school dropout. He helped me get into Cal Poly.

A (5:42)

Wow.

B (5:42)

And yeah, so once you get, once I got to the Valley, you, your, the system. I, I, I don't know, I just call it a system. It think the thing seems to be alive, but, but you can cultivate whatever path you want. And there, there's a path to, there's a billionaire path and you can get on it and, but you gotta stay on it. You know, it's, it's like any game. There's rituals and there's rights and you, you have to play the game. You can't, you know, you have to stay on a path. You gotta go all the, all the parties, all the orgies, all the rituals, you have to keep your mouth shut. And at the same time, though, you have to produce. I mean, at the same time, I'm doing lots, I'm cutting code and coming up with brilliant, you know, killer apps and new ideas and emerging technologies. So it was, it was Fun. I, you know, I, Looking back, I got, at that time, I was having a lot of fun. Looking back, I, I go, oh my God, what the hell do you were you doing? But, you know, I was a young engineer and, and the time was right.

A (6:37)

So in the early stages, were you making a lot of money?

B (6:41)

Yeah, relatively.

A (6:42)

It was, it was seductive, I, I imagine, yeah. So that's, that sounds great.

B (6:47)

The. But the money was great. But it was the parties. The parties, yeah, the parties weren't every night. It wasn't like, it wasn't like a Hollywood or, you know, Wolf of Wall street kind of thing, but there was a lot of parties. First you get invited to a big wigs party and you feel special and you go, and they're whining and dining you, and you get invited to more parties and you can quit anytime you want. If it's not for you, you quit and you can have a good life in Silicon Valley. You'll never know what's going on. You'll can be a millionaire even, right? You'll never be a billionaire, you'll never be a gazillionaire, you'll never be a player. But if you stay on the path, pretty soon you, you know, now you're going to the orgies, which is weird. And then those orgies, you know, once you, once you prove yourself and again, there's not a, there's not like a group of people watching you. It's just you're starting to hang out with the people who have their hands on all of the resources and all the money and all the opportunity. So once they realize, oh, you're one of them, they start handing you the opportunity. It's kind of like the way the Freemasons, when you're at the lower levels work. It's just a big networking club.

A (7:47)

Yeah, right. So, you know, in the early stages, the, probably the, the four GS or whatever, they weren't that, you know, crazy, but as you started to move up or they invited you to different parties, they probably got like maybe Eyes Wide Shut type or. What were they like?

B (8:05)

Yeah, yeah, exactly like that. Very, very expensive parties. I was a young engineer. My, my drink of choice was Trey Louie. I don't know if you're familiar with it, but the $125 shot of brandy and, you know, that's with my drink.

A (8:19)

Yeah, yeah.

B (8:20)

It wasn't a special drink, it was just what everybody had. But yeah, these parties are big and, and they get, you know, as you move up and the opportunities are coming with you, it's really hard. Even though I had a Christian background and I was raised you and I know what I was doing. It's really hard. Not, it's really hard to say no.

A (8:37)

Yeah, right.

B (8:38)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A (8:40)

I, you know, Navy seal, like, I didn't get those kind of parties, unfortunately, but we, we had parties, you know, but like that. Who knows what of, you know, how many of us would have been seduced by those. But it is, I'm sure at some level some of the military guys were going. I, and we've heard, I've heard that military guys have those types of parties as well. The, the senior, you know, officers and stuff.

B (9:03)

It's, it's, it's, it's part of the. I, I call them the Lucy, the Luciferians, I call them, they're not. Luciferian means something else really. But the Lucy's are the people that I, I'm talking about and they're everywhere. They've infiltrated every institution in the world and, and now I'm seeing that they're infiltrating the podcaster industry. I'm seeing guys who were talking about, hey, I went, I got invited to a party. It was weird. Yeah. In fact, I put together a video of a bunch of the podcasters who, you know, these are the guys that suddenly have 2 million followers and they're, they're really not saying anything, but they're very popular and they've gone to the parties the same, it works the same. It worked that way in, in D.C. and then it worked that way in Hollywood and it worked that way in Silicon Valley in high tech. It works that way everywhere now. You know, wow. The reason why things are ramping up is because we're right in the middle of the Lucy Wars. You know, the Lucy's are all battling. It's kind of like the Game of Thrones. All these houses are battling to be the number one. And they, they make, they, they try to lead the peasants into believing that they're fight, they're battling for us, for the peasants, but they're not, they're battling for the gold. Same thing with these Lucy wars. You know, they're battling for the gold, that they're not trying to save us.

A (10:14)

Yeah. And that's the problem. I think a lot of people have, they, they're seduced into believing that they're special. And I've, I've, you know, listened to a lot of people like yourself and. But you are like, incredibly special. But there's a lot of people that are talking about how, you know, they were. They were. They're seduced, and then they just go along and they, you know, we see all these rioters and so forth. They're kind of like the useful idiots. I, I call. I call them that. And, you know, they, they need that type of person. They normally get people that are not so smart and they elevate them. But you, and probably a lot of people that were in Silicon Valley were elevated because you had merit, but then they captured you. How. How did that work? Because obviously merit in Silicon Valley is very special.

B (10:59)

They didn't really capture me. I went in freely. I knew what I was walking into the whole time. You get to a point where you realize, oh, I'm in so deep, I got to get out of here. But it's too late. It's like any club. It's like any, like a motorcycle club. You get in so deep that they won't let you out.

A (11:16)

Wow.

B (11:18)

But, yeah, the parties, you know, everybody wants to go to a party. And the parties, I think that you went to are not the same parties that I went to. You went to real parties. I went to parties that had an agenda. It wasn't about having fun. It was about hobnobbing with the demons kind of parties.

A (11:35)

Dang. So eventually you got to understand that and, and you saw through some of that. But you're like, you're saying once you're committed, it's. It's kind of hard to extract yourself.

B (11:47)

Very hard.

A (11:49)

But, you know, I can see, because I went the same process that you're going through right now as far as revealing. It was very hard for me to reveal because there's programming that they do to us over time where if you start to reveal, then you, You're. You like, contract yourself and you're antsy and you're like, oh, my God. I. I can't. I can't do this. I've. I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell them, the people that I, you know, looked up to, and, you know, that's. But you were doing that. You're working through that system. Tell us a little bit about that.

B (12:22)

Yeah, I. I reached a point where I knew I was in. In over my head and I wanted out. But again, I'm still struggling with the devil on my shoulder, you know, the angel. So I wasn't making a very good effort, put it that way. I wanted out, but I really wasn't trying because it was just sort of satisfying my own conscience. Right. But then I got really sick. I got some Reason I got really, really sick. I had to have a hard valve transplant. I have somebody else's hard valve in. It's weird. And it took about a year to recover from that. And I thought, well, this is a good time to get out because I just kind of fade, kind of fade away to come back. But now when I came out, I just jumped right back into it. You know, I was my chance that I, you know, I was like an idiot. Like, you know, I jumped right back into it. And it got even further because now they trusted me even more. And then when they realized I was trying to get out, they had me committed in Marathon Mental Hospital in the J ward, the belly of the beast, the maximum security ward. And I escaped. Who do you, how many people you know escape from the maximum security mental institution? You know, you escape from jail if you're a murderer and you escape from jail, they're where you're going to go. Murder if you're a rapist, you know, but maximum security, they don't know what you're going to do, right? So I was at APB in three counties and 22 police. But then they got me out of it. They got, they fixed it for me, right? So they put me in there and then they fixed it for me to show me what they could do. And so the final attempt, I was kind of letting people know I was getting ready to leave. And then we got, we got right off the road. I don't know, I can't prove that that wasn't an accident, but it was pretty weird. But we got ran off the road and broke my neck. I've got a 2 inch titanium screw in my C2. Now I was supposed to be paralyzed or I'm not. And. But because of that wreck I had, I got a $100,000 liability. 65 to 35 to the attorney, 65 to me. And that was money nobody knew about. So I took that money and I fled. I got the hell out. I went up north to Northern California in Mendocino, and I hooked up with some horseback riding outfits and I just blended in with all the tweakers and drug addicts and cleaning stalls and giving horseback rides.

A (14:22)

Nice.

B (14:23)

That's how I hid for a long time.

A (14:25)

Yeah, just. Just jumped out of the system that. Now it sounds like they, they try to extinguish you.

B (14:32)

But I left a lot behind, too. And I left two custom Bill Harleys, a sailboat, twelve million dollar stock portfolio. Good God.

A (14:42)

Oh, my God. I. I was thinking. Yeah, you, you did pretty well, but you did, like, crazy. Well, it's like, wow. And you let. Yeah, you definitely left a lot behind, but that. That was your out. You know, he's like, oh, I got this or valve. I got. I got to work on that. And you're like, slid out and then you. You get sucked back in. And. And they're like, oh, my. What did I think about. And you. You're out again. Kind of what. Some of this happened to me when I left the CIA. So there. It's kind of like the same thing. They're like, well, it's. You know, on the outside, we have Silicon Valley. Everybody looks up to them. You know, these computers we're using right now, the phones and, you know, some of the AI now is. Is good. But we know there's some going to be some problems with that as you're going to maybe talk about. But we, you know, look up to this. So there's this facade of good, and, you know, you were involved in that, and you're having some parties and have a good time, making crazy amounts of money, and then you realize you're in. You're in a little bit too deep. And so you saw some of these rituals and what. How did that go? Oh, my God.

B (15:51)

Well, read the book. No, the rituals.

A (15:55)

Yeah, I read the great ritual and I'm like, oh, my God.

B (15:59)

So it's what I. When the book first came out, came out in October. So let me back up a little bit. So I hid for a long time. I hid for a long time. And then all of a sudden, the world started talking about things I was hiding from, especially around that Q. The Q thing.

A (16:15)

Okay.

B (16:16)

You know, all of a sudden, you know, the QAnon thing, all of a sudden people were talking about the things I was hiding from. And that. That was amazing to me. I didn't. I didn't think I would.

A (16:24)

I didn't.

B (16:25)

I was gonna hide forever. And the more I listened, I thought, I gotta. I gotta add to this. So I contacted Jerome Corsi and he and I talked for about a year and he said, yeah, you need to write a book.

A (16:35)

Wow.

B (16:36)

So we did. It took six years to write the book, so. And I even quit at one point. I. I couldn't take it anymore. I destroyed the whole thing. I got. My mother died during COVID and I couldn't go be. I couldn't go to the funeral. And I was livid. I hated the book. I destroy it anyway. So lately, these Epstein files, when the book first came out, everybody accused me of being a bullshitter and lying. This is, this never happened. That the Epstein files look like they plagiarized my book. Or maybe I plagiarized the Epstein files, but my book came out first.

A (17:03)

Wow.

B (17:04)

I mean, a lot that. A lot that's in those files seems to come straight out of the book. So that means that, that means that I have a. A confirmation source. It's a weird one to have Epstein pounds, but it's there.

A (17:18)

It's so same thing you, you've mentioned that there's. Epstein is just one of many. And a lot of people focus on Epstein like he's, he's the one. But there's, there's lots of them out there.

B (17:32)

It's like they're trying to set it up where if. If there's no connection to Epstein, then you're not one of them. If there is. And maybe you are, but you know, there's. I never even heard of Epstein when I was in the valley, but there. I've heard of a lot of Epstein types. I mean, I met a lot of them. I went to a lot of their, their retreats. You know, they're all over the place. There's not. You don't have to be on an island. You can be anywhere. You know, I think that they're just trying to distract from how rampant this is, how widespread. I mean, it's been going on for thousands of years. So of course it's widespread. It's everywhere. It's just. They did a really good job of cloaking it, but now it's coming out. It's coming out because. Because they're fighting so much. I've never seen them. I've never seen the Lucy's fight like this. They're fighting tooth and nail, which, that. And that means something big is coming. Something very big is coming.

A (18:20)

Yeah, it seems like some of their systems are collapsing, maybe are about to collapse, and they're, you know, trying to maintain them and they're fighting amongst each other. And that's very incredible.

B (18:34)

It's like the P. Diddy thing when I was watching that. It's like to me, what I saw. And I have a very peculiar perspective because of my experiences. What I saw was, I think P. Diddy got to the point where he said, look, I want more. I want more. And you know, he wanted more. He wanted like Elon Musk level, Larry Ellison level. And they said, okay, fine, you know what to do. You know what you got to do. And he said, no, I'm not going to do that. Anymore. And they said, okay, you're bluffing. They said, no, you're bluffing. I've got all the goods. And they went back forth, right? And then, and then in the end, they called each other's bluffs. And now we all know that there really were parties. There really were barrels of lube, there really were underage children. We all know that. Of course nothing happened, but we all, at least we all know it now. It's all common knowledge now, which it makes it easier on people like me when I'm trying to tell people these guys are crazy. These guys, these guys are crazy. You have no idea how crazy they are. I mean, they are, not only are they crazy, but they have all the money and all the resources. They run the world.

A (19:37)

Absolutely. Absolutely. I've seen it. You know, being in the CIA and working all around the world, you start to see stuff, you know, you can't help but see it. And you know, I'm trying to do the good stuff, but I see, you know, what I'm doing is just a pin prick from what they can do. And it's, it's sometimes it's, you know, very disconcerting. You're, you wonder why we even continue to fight. But I feel that we're in the fight of our life right now and we have to fight and they're fighting. So it's like, who's going to win? What, what are your thoughts? Who's going to win this?

B (20:15)

Well, the Bible says we lose, but God wins. Ultimately we do have some trials and tribulations coming, but in the end God wins. And so that's, that's all I care about at this point. I'm trying to get, you know, I'm trying to do what I can.

A (20:30)

Yeah.

B (20:30)

I'm trying to do what I can to take some of these guys down. But yeah, good.

A (20:36)

I think you're doing a good job. I mean, you, you talk about Larry Ellison and I, I, you know, I saw that one picture where Ellison and Zuckerberg and you know, all the, all the biggies are with Obama and you talked about how they probably had a ritual, a blood ritual after that. And so the gravy ritual is not even at the blood ritual level. Wow. But you. So I'm in Lake Tahoe where Ellison has massive home and Matt and has massive holdings and one of the real estate holdings and Zuckerberg has a home here. They all have homes here and they're probably get together and do their rituals here in Lake Tahoe.

B (21:14)

God, I'm so Jealous. Lake. Lake Tahoe is one of my favorite places.

A (21:18)

Yeah.

B (21:18)

Larry Ellison owns most. He owns most of Lake Tahoe. He owns almost all of Silicon Valley. He owns almost all of Malibu. He owns an entire Hawaiian island. Lanai. Who gets to own a Hawaiian island? He does. I warn. A long time ago, when I first started talking to. To Corsi, I warned him about Musk. Musk was still just a PayPal guy, exec. I warned him. I said, there's two guys you got to keep your eye on. Larry Ellison. And he didn't really even. And Elon Musk. And I mean, and I. It's not because I'm smart. It's because I knew that they were being groomed for this. Yeah, I knew that they were being groomed for this. And, you know, when Zuckerberg said, I'm not human, it's not because he's. He's a robot. He said that literally. He said that meaning he meant that these people are not. They're not human. They go through these rituals and they really believe they're no longer human.

A (22:06)

Wow.

B (22:07)

And they probably aren't, to be honest. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what's left of their humanity after all these nasty things that they.

A (22:17)

Yep, it's. It's pretty crazy. And, you know, I got. I could see a little bit of that, you know, when I was overseas and I was in protective details and all that kind of stuff, but there, I would never protect any of these people. So there was one time where Hillary Clinton came to Islamabad where I was, and we were supposed to do a protective detail. And I was like, ah, you know, I might turn my gun against her. And they're like, okay, you're not on the detail. So I was kind of half kidding, but I was like, you guys are going to find out. And sure enough, that night, she had one of the. The ambassador's residents, she was staying there. And we had a detailed protective detail from some of the guys I work with, CIA types. And we're like the. We're like the top of the food chain as far as, you know, protective details. And. And so some kids show up and they went inside, and they never came out again. And so the guy told me, yeah, what you said was right. And that guy never worked another detail. He was gone after that. But you stayed in there. I stayed in there. And we continue to try and do the right thing. And I know you. You've been on Nino's show, and you talked about how there's like the Charlie Kirk assassination. And then we had the Reiner assassination. Two.

B (23:36)

Oh, the one, two, three. Richmond.

A (23:39)

Yeah. Who do you think?

B (23:40)

Yeah, that was.

A (23:41)

It's going to be. I'm looking at. Well, I'll see. Oh, what do you think it could be?

B (23:48)

It won't, it won't be a. It won't be an important play. It wouldn't be Musk. It could be. I mean, you know, I hate to do this, but it's kind of fun. It could be Gates and his.

A (23:56)

I was gonna say him because he screwed up. Everything's screwed up about Gates now. So they're like.

B (24:03)

Are you noticing, have you noticed how they're portraying him now? He's just a broken down old man. I watched an interview and they had, they had the camera behind his bald head. You know, they don't. Do. They do that kind of stuff on purpose, you know, make us look down on him and then.

A (24:16)

Yeah, yeah. They're like revealed in Epstein files. He's like. He got, he was. Had a, you know, hooker from Russia and he got STD or whatever and gave it to his wife. And she's like coming out now and saying she should be arrested. So. Yeah, you might be right. So that.

B (24:35)

So to me, I see this as part of the Lucy Wars. She's joined one. When you hang around horses for a long time, I've tried to explain this, this three things. I'll try again here. But we hang around horses for. I mean, a lot of horses, not just five or six. You have to hang around a lot of them. Their social structure is based on groups of three. So they always hang out in groups of three and then those groups of three hang out in groups of three. So you got nine and then those group, those nine hang out in groups. So you got 27. So it goes on and on and on depending on how many horses. And these, these groups are extremely dynamic. There's certain horses that just play. They're, they're just mischievous and they'll bounce from one group to the next. That's an Elon Musk, for example. The Lucy's. Their social structure is very similar. It's very, it's kind of crazy. But they, they do the same thing. They hang out in groups of three. They group in groups of three. They, they, they congregate in groups of three all the time. So I see the Gates and it occurs to me that Melinda has changed to a different house, to a different group. So it's all. They're all fighting. They're. They're not fighting for us. They're fighting for the gold. They're fighting for position in Lucifer's kingdom. And they got to bring us along because we're the resources that they need.

A (25:43)

Yeah. And I think they're gonna continue to, like, lean on us and, you know, try and depopulate us and all kind of crazy stuff so that we're more manageable. And they, they have their useful idiots. Which will they elevate, you know, like a Joe Biden or Kamala or something like that. But for the most part, you know, we're. We're waking up to their control system and you're. You're part of that reveal, so. Thanks so much.

B (26:06)

Yeah, well, so hanging out with the what, Their ultimate goal is to break into Heaven. You know, the five. I will say first five I wills break into Heaven, throw God out and take over, and then break into hell and free all their trapped brethren down there.

A (26:21)

Wow.

B (26:22)

CERN is. And I was at a meeting year, decades ago actually, and they were brainstorming something. I didn't. I was just there and they were talking about the arches, the St. Louis Arch. We can't put arches everywhere. How about Ferris wheels? We could build mega Ferris wheels in every major city. No one will notice. Well, have you noticed there's mega ferrous wheels in every major city? When I. When I first heard this.

A (26:44)

Yep.

B (26:45)

When I first heard this, I never even heard of them. There was no mega Ferris wheels. Now they're everywhere. So if I suspect that CERN and these Ferris wheels have something to do with this attempt to break in the. Break through the veil. I mean, it sounds crazy. Yeah, yeah, these people are crazy. But. But they have a lot of resources, they have a lot of money, and they have a lot of. They have a lot backing them up. I've been to knowledge transfer rituals where they're getting a lot of their knowledge from some source outside. They don't always know what it is. Sometimes it's, it's obvious. Sometimes it's, you know, whatever's giving it to them is messing with it a lot too. Joe is just. These things on the other side are very mischievous. Very. They like to mess around. You always get what you want from them. But my concern right now is, okay, so they want to take over humanity. Luther wants to make humanity his own once it kicks Yahoo out. And when I was talking to both of my buddies that are still in Silicon Valley, and the hot topic right now is these companion AI apps. So you're probably talking to companion AI apps Right now. And you don't realize it but like, like the trucker dispatchers, these truckers are calling this number and they're talking to some gal on the other end and she's joking and helping. It's an AI, it's not a real person. They just don't realize. So they, they rolled out the first version of his companion AI and what, what made me concerned is it wasn't just a few players, it's all the players. All of them have a, have an offering in the wings ready and waiting, all of them. And that, that's concerning when they all. Usually the way it works is when there's an emerging, emerging technology in the Valley, you'll get a few hot shots who will sit in their garage for 17 hours and develop it and then, and then present, start a little startup, get angel funding, present it. And then one of the big guys come along and scoop it up, buy them out. The big guys don't develop anything. They just go around buying everything out.

A (28:38)

Yeah, so the, the COVID shot, you know, I've had several. I had a doctor on yesterday was talking about it, she's super well informed. She was at some event in Atlanta where they were talking about how this new technology was going to be inserted into people and they figure out how to get in. This was back in 2014, I think it was. And she's, she's like stunned and she's like, they're going to be able to control people, they're going to be able to do this, they're going to be able to AI. And they're talking about it back in 2014. And so the COVID shot was, had multiple purposes and functions, obviously, and more vaccination. So what, what are your thoughts on that all?

B (29:19)

Well, okay, so the reason why I was bringing up AI is because, okay, first of all, AI is not what people think. It's all smoke and mirrors. We communicate through statements. And the statement could be a sentence or a photo or a video. All AI is doing is constructing statements. And when it puts it in a sentence form and presents it to you, you're wow. You're, you're wowed. You're like, wow, this thing is talking to me. But it's not, it's really not. It's just, it's software. How does software. It's software. You can trace it from the end to the beginning. You know, it's, you can debug it. It's software. It's not, it's never going to be self aware. It's never going to have a conscience. It's never, there's never going to be that singularity because all it's doing is they've got templates and they've got data and the data is rated and they can go in and tweak that. Those ratings and all, that's all it's doing. Okay, so AI is not real, it fake. It's smoke and mirrors. So with the rollout of this first version and getting us used to talking to these things and accepting them as, wow, they sound like us, they're really, it's really cool. Then the next, the next version, the next release will be getting us used to the idea of being socially dependent on these things. They're going to lock us, they're going to lock us down. They're going to lock us down again. Either, either through civil unrest or another scandal. They're going to get us to voluntarily lock down this time. And then when they do, when we do, they're going to roll out this horde of AI Companions apps and then you're going to be bored. You don't have anything to do. This thing's talking to you, knows everything about you. It has access to your files. It knows you better than you. It knows you better than your mother. And it can follow you around throughout the day. It can jump from device. Device. Right. It's following you around.

A (30:50)

Oh, wow.

B (30:51)

So then the third release will have options where you can allow it to make purchases and pay bills on your behalf, know, kind of help you organize your life. And it knows you by this time. It knows you pretty well. And then, and then the fourth release will be, or whatever that number is, will be where you get, you know, you trust it so much that now you're going to give it power of attorney. It's going to, it's going to legally represent you. Yeah. And it's going to make decisions for you. And you trust it this well. And I like to use the analogy of the, of the, of how they're going to roll this out. One of some of the ads they might use is, for example, you're going into the grocery store to buy a rib eye. And this thing, because it, you know, it can crack your eyeballs. And what you're, it sees, you're looking at the ribeye and it says, hey, you know, we're. However it's communicating with you at that moment, look at that miracle meat. It's 10 times cheaper. And you can really use the social credit scores. Right. And so it's going to save you the embarrassment of being denied that. The kiosk gives, right? That's how they're going to roll this thing out. By the time we get there, this thing has become you or you've become it, depending on your perspective. That's how they will take over. Take over human. So humanity, you know, we have our, our art, our music, our literature. They're already giving that over to AI. Why do you think they dumb down art? You know, with Jackson Pollock, for example. Because AI can't compete at that level. AI cannot create a Rembrandt, a masterpiece. But if AI is going to take over art, they got to dumb down art so that we're impressed with AI's achievements, right?

A (32:15)

Their achievements, yeah.

B (32:17)

Once. Once we've handed over art, literature, et cetera to AI, then what are we? We're nothing. We're just a shell.

A (32:24)

We just.

B (32:25)

We just exist at that point. That's their plan.

A (32:29)

So being the CIA, I was. I was involved in lots of different projects. And one of them that I revealed and talked about was like a space program type thing and alien craft and all that kind of stuff. And they basically came down hard on my life. Now you talk about in your. And I'm looking at page four. The Elders are so old, only four of them tonight, that they appear more reptilian than human. You know, I've seen, I've had experience with some of these reptilians, right. So I don't know if you want to go there because it's, It'll really. It. They lean on you real hard when you go into the alien stuff. But did you ever encounter anything like that?

B (33:15)

I did, but I never, I never looked him as aliens. I looked at him as decrepit old Lucy's.

A (33:21)

Yeah.

B (33:22)

By the time I ran into those guys, you're. You kind of feel special at that point. You kind of really feel like you're part of some secret society that that's, you know, it's really. It's really cool to be a part of, you know, that's how they indoctrinate you. You know, they. They actually sent me to a indoctrination. It started off being an orientation, but it turned into an indoctrination camp. And they kind of told. Warned me that I thought I was going to like some castle or something. It was just a business park in Bethesda. But they kind of run you through with their belief system. You know, they believe in the, the unknown God who had two, two sons, Yahuwah and Lucifer and Yahuwah was the bad God. He was making life hard on humanity. And Lucifer is a good guy just trying to save. And that's why they want to help Lucifer first, you know, blast into heaven and, and take over. And they believe it. They really, they really truly believe it. They believe they're good. They believe they're the good guys.

A (34:18)

Yeah, they're not going to stop. They're going to keep coming at us. And, you know, they, like you said, they have. They have amazing amounts of power and money and everything. They can do pretty much what they want still. Just this infighting they're having, and we're, you know, revealing some of their plans, and they're probably not too happy about that, but it goes on. Now, a lot of people say that they don't want to reveal this type of stuff because people won't be able to handle it. I think they don't want to reveal it because they don't want us to know. They're controlling their formation. And your work is basically revealing this information that they want to keep hidden. How much further do you feel that we could go as. And really upset their. Your plans?

B (35:00)

Well, there's. Yeah, it's both. There's, there's a lot of people that are just never gonna get their head wrapped around any of this. Yeah, it's like right now people are trying to wrap their head around that the fact that these people are all, you know, pedophiles and, and cannibals. You know, my, My, my grandfather, they. This is. They would have been appalled. You know, no offense to anybody, but they would have been appalled at the LGBT movement. That was, that wasn't part of their culture. People, people, gay guys were put into institutions and such. Well, now, now their grandchildren, us, we all accept it. So now they're pushing out the pedal movement so that our grandchildren will just accept the fact that, okay, pedophilia and cannibalism is normal. Just like, I mean, that's where we're heading. That's what we gotta stop. Well, we gotta stop the takeover of humanity. But Lucifer, Lucifer know, he's read the Bible. He knows the end game. He know. He knows he's just full. His job is to take down as many, as much of humanity as he can before he's taken out. And the reason why I think that there, these Lucy wars have intensified the level that they are now is because his time is running short and he knows it.

A (36:05)

Very good. That's good to know. Let's, let's, let's run up Run the clock out on them. So that be. That'll be fantastic. Yeah. So, you know, I've. I've been around some of these people in the past. You start to notice them. I knew there were ritual things going on. You talk about rituals and that's, that's where the power is. How, how do they get power from the rituals, like the sacrifice and stuff?

B (36:30)

The ritual. The rituals serve a lot of purposes. It's, you know, from Lucifer's perspective, it's his religion. So Yahuwah has us. Has humanity worshiping and observing his fe. His festivals and seasons and such. Lucifer wants to copy everything in his own way. So. So these rituals are kind of his rel. His form of religion. And, and they, one of the purposes they serve is. Is to show loyalty. You know, if you're, if you're willing to sacrifice a firstborn, then, you know, you're going to go places. You're gonna, you're gonna go high, right? And they do. They're all over the place. And then the other, the other purpose they serve is to sort of just dehumanize and, and exalt the people who are participating. You get a certain, you get a certain prestige come. And then also there, there is power because there are things that show up that, I mean, you don't. It's not like you absorb the power or anything, but when you're there, you kind of. It's hard to. You kind of walk out with it a little bit. I don't know. It's kind of like when you go to a church and you go to a sermon, a really good sermon, and the preacher just really gets, gets in, you know, just really lays in. You walk out feeling a lot different. That was great. I had a revelation. That was great.

A (37:40)

It.

B (37:40)

Same thing.

A (37:42)

Yeah. I. I've been to really good pastors and, and ceremonies, whatever, and they're. They were really good. You do feel, you know, invigorated and spiritually enlightened and so forth. And then there's some. Where you're like, what is going on here? It's like there was this one church, I remember it was in. I think it was in Kentucky, and we would go by this, this one church and if you went by there when it was letting out, you had to be very careful with the traffic because people would come out of there like speeding and there were always wrecks and stuff. And so I think demonics were like jumping into people and they were like, they're angry and they're fighting and they wanted to Fight. And it's like, so, you know, that's some of the stuff they do too. But do you think that some of these churches allow that or you know, have ceremonies where we don't seat like the super bowl and you know, the Grammys, you know, there, those are ceremonies and they're basically, you know, instilling this information at us. And so do you think that some of these churches. I, of course they do. I'm asking that question. But what are your thoughts?

B (38:50)

There's ceremony, there's, there's rituals going on all over the, all the time. And people are participating in them without realizing. For example, okay, the super bowl halftimes are obviously rituals. The Olympic, you know, opening, those are obviously rituals. I mean, how can you not. But you know, for example, Tim Walton, his wife, you know, when they were doing their hand waving, that weird hand waving that they were spell casting, that was spelled. She's a witch. They were spell casting.

A (39:13)

Wow.

B (39:14)

You're part of rituals even though you don't know it. The rituals, like I said, the rituals are very important to the Lucy's and they won't stop doing them and they're very depraved. They're very. So the, there's, there's the Lucy's and then there's the Satanists and the Lucy's. Then there's a difference. There's a big difference. The main difference is that the Lucy's worship a good, what they think is a good God who's going to save humanity. Whereas the Satanists, they worship an evil God. You know, they, they get off on the, on the evilness of it, you know, debauchery and counterculture and all that. That's the main difference. And when it, like for me, it's. I can spot the difference between the two. Just like I've been around enough, I've worked around enough Asians that I can spot the difference between a mainland Chinese and a Hong Kong Chinese.

A (39:58)

Sure.

B (39:58)

I can spot the difference between a Lucy and a Satanist. So I use. So the Satanists are always around, like groupies. They go to all the parties and the rituals, they're always around. And the main purpose for them is first of all to get to have more participants or more observers. The more people you have, the higher the power, I guess. And the other is if anything goes wrong, they get take the blame. So for example, the Memphis three, I'm pretty sure that that was a ritual gone wrong. And these three saying this were paid very well to spend what, 30 or 40 years in prison. Take their. Their out now. And they're living well. That's the way it worked.

A (40:34)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet there's a lot of people in prison for different crimes that they took the. They were the fall guys for people above them and, you know, the more serious rituals that were going on. So the Satanists are like, you know, Luciferian wannabes, Is that kind of what. Yeah, yeah, right.

B (40:55)

They're Luciferi wannabes. They're the ones who show up and say, okay, I'm here to sell my soul. Let's do this. So, yeah, we'll bring them around. We'll. We'll keep them around. You know, we use them as, you know, food and sex and anytime we need a. I keep saying where I should go. Yeah, stop doing that. They use them for food and sex. Anytime they need a fall guy, they're. They're available. They're right there. They'll. They'll willingly sign up to be the fall guy there. So, yeah, no, we. It's the weakling, right? The weaklings in society. The goth girls and the. The boys that run around after them.

A (41:26)

Yeah, but. And, you know, like, we see these riots, you know, the BLM and now the, The. They're rioting in Minneapolis and LA and some of these places. Do you think a lot of those people are Satanists?

B (41:43)

Probably not. Well, yeah, they might be. They might be fringe fringing, you know, but they're not the. They're not the hardcore ones that the Lucy's would invite to the parties.

A (41:51)

Okay.

B (41:51)

The. The hard. The hardcore ones that the, that the Lucy's like to bring around. They're the ones that you see on, you know, on stages and some of the metallic or heavy metal, it's those types, the real hardcore goth, really. They're easy to spot. And even. Even some of the ones that, you know, try to play it off as, you know, oh, I'm a good Satanist. They're not. They're. They want to go there too. They want to be involved. I mean, these people are so crazy. They would just love to be ravaged. You know, to them, that's. That's what they're looking, you know, that's what they want. I shouldn't laugh, but it's what they want, you know?

A (42:26)

I mean, it. It is kind of funny because, you know, it's like, how do you get in that kind of state of mind where you would. I know we get to that, but it's just part of the, you know, the rituals that they're like. We're Talking about the super bowl and the, the Grammys and all those are like, you know, they're basically hooking people. There was one concert down in, I think Texas where this one performer had like several people die while he was performing.

B (42:53)

Yeah, that was a ritual. A lot of these concerts are rituals. I'm surprised that people don't see them. For what. Well, I shouldn't be saying I'm surprised, but they're. The rituals is the way the Lucy's operate. Everything is a ritual. Everything is a. Everything is a ritual. It's all. It's a religion and it does get awful.

A (43:14)

So like you're, you're talking about the, the gravy ritual and that, that was like the kind of like the low form of the ritual.

B (43:22)

Kind of like the initiation.

A (43:24)

Initiation, yeah. So you're humiliate yourself or whatever and then you can like go to the next level. And so there's different levels of these rituals, obviously. And that's, that's the way it is in a lot of these churches and so forth. Gosh. Did you. What's the worst ritual you've ever seen?

B (43:43)

The one that I. The one that caused me to finally flee? That's the worst.

A (43:47)

That Doors.

B (43:48)

Doors to the worst. Yeah. And I used to have a really hard time talking about him, but now that the Epstein files are out, I mean, it's described in there. The rituals that I went to are in those files.

A (44:03)

Wow.

B (44:03)

And I'm talking about the infant rituals. There's a movie called Mother. Okay, so God's throne room has a seat of judgment. Right. So that means this is court, it's a courtroom. So God has. God's throne room is a courtroom. And courtrooms have rules. And the main rule in God's courtroom is no trickery. Full disclosure. God follows that rule. Rule to a T. He always tells us what he's going to do before he does it. And Lucifer has to follow her as well. Right. Oh, sorry about. Well, I just. My computer just fell apart. Sorry, where was I? Throne Room.

A (44:39)

Talking about the rituals and the movie Mother. I'm. I'm looking at up.

B (44:42)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A (44:44)

2017 horror mystery, it says, stylized as a Mother is a 2017American psychological horror film and starring Jennifer Lawrence. So, Jennifer Lawrence. Ah.

B (45:00)

So what I was getting at was that they have to show us what they're going to do before they do it. And they do it a lot, a lot of times in movies. So in that movie they do it. They do it a lot of times. I mean, that movie is a scene, it's the baby ritual scene. They're showing us the baby ritual scene, the infants, the infant sacrifice in that movie. It's, it's horrible. But, but it's, they do that on purpose. And there's another movie called the Neon Demon where they have a gal sort of in a Jeffrey Epstein situation and one of the other gals looks at her and says, wait, are you food or are you sex?

A (45:31)

Oh, wow.

B (45:31)

Yeah. So they're showing us, they're constantly showing us. So, so the, you can even find this, this scene on YouTube. It's a, it's a, it's an awful scene. I wouldn't, I do not recommend watching it. But it's the, the baby scene in the movie Mother with Jennifer Lawrence and it, it shows you pretty much what to do. Wow.

A (45:55)

So they have to show you what they do and that way they get a free pass when they go before judgment. Right, right.

B (46:01)

So if, so on your day of judgment, if, if Lucifer tricked you, yahush. Jesus is going to point that out and yeah. God's going to throw your case out and you're buying.

A (46:10)

Right.

B (46:12)

I mean it's free will. You can't be. Lucifer can't use our free will against us. He cannot trick us. It has to be. We have. He has to be able to say they, they. It was right there in front of them. They just chose to ignore it.

A (46:25)

Yeah. So that's how they, they sabotage you because they give you all these, oh, look at all the sex you can have, look at all the money you can have or fame and fortune and everything that comes with it.

B (46:39)

It's hard to, it's hard to pass.

A (46:43)

Yeah. So, you know, I, I feel like, I reckon I, I know you probably look at almost everybody and go, yeah, yeah, Blue spiran Satanist. And for me, I'm, I'm there. But when you look at someone and you recognize them, it would be like me looking at someone who's going, oh yeah, that's a fighter. Because I, you know, did martial arts for most of my life and I, I'm a shooter and I could look at somebody, the way they handle a gun, I'm like, oh that's, that's this guy's good. Or they're not so good or whatever, you know. So you're looking at these Lucy's and you're, you can spot them a mile away.

B (47:16)

I bet some of them. I can. Some of them are really difficult. For example, trump, Trump is a wild card. I can't, I really have a hard time pinning him down sometimes. I'm. I'm convinced now. He's one of them. He's definitely one. Look what he's doing. Look at all this. Look at all the symbiotic. And then, and then the next day, he does them like, oh, wait a minute. Maybe he is playing three, you know, 40 chess. Maybe he is really, really brilliant. I mean, I hope so. Or maybe he is.

A (47:37)

I hope so, too. If he's not, boy, we're in trouble.

B (47:40)

Well, we're in trouble anyway. But it would be nice to have.

A (47:43)

Yeah, we're in trouble.

B (47:45)

It would be nice to have hope in something. Right. I keep saying that. I keep saying this. I'm probably gonna get shot for saying it, but I think, I think what we need to do. Men need to start assembling again.

A (47:54)

Yes, I agree. Right. We need to take charge.

B (47:59)

Yeah. Men need to start getting together, you know, and some. I said, I, I made the mistake of saying white America. I didn't mean to say that. And I got. Accuse me of racist. I'm married to a Mexican woman. Right. I'm not a racist. Anyway, men need to start getting back together in, in rooms and, and, you know, holding each other's feet to the fire, punching each other, you know, working things out, making plans, making designs, getting, you know, the old ways, the ways that my grandfather and you know what, the other side, that the Bilderberg and the Bohemian, they do it. Why aren't we doing it?

A (48:27)

Yeah, good point. Good point. Yeah, we should do that. Let's. Let's start coordinating some. Craig. So there's definitely going to be. I think people are going to rise up. So we look at what Trump's doing and we're like, come on, what's the hold up here? And then there's a lot of us are saying we're just going to start taking action and doing this ourselves, you know, get rid of all this government that doesn't serve us or whatever. What do you think? Yeah.

B (48:54)

All right.

A (48:55)

Oh, very good, Very good. And I. Every time I do, I, I bring this up, the chat just explodes. It's like, yeah, let's. Let's throw down. Let's get it. Let's get it on. I think by the spring and summer, it's going to happen.

B (49:06)

Why not start a prayer meeting right there on the, on the lawn. On the White House lawn. Trump leads it.

A (49:13)

He needs to. Yeah. To prove himself. That's.

B (49:16)

It would be. It would. It would bring us all back. It would ground us all. You Know, if we, if we could have some big. And I don't mean like the Charlie Kirk thing, I mean some, some grassroots, spontaneous organic revival. Yeah.

A (49:33)

And, you know, I've, I watch and, you know, I'm a strategist. You know, I know how to lay down some ambushes and so forth. And perhaps some of the stuff we're seeing that the reason it's taking so long is like, there's. They're trying to lay some ambushes and so, and take a lot of people down at once. But, you know, I was at, I was at January 6th and I saw tons of anomalies. I even did a show with a guy who was an expert at seeing coming events that are not going to be so good. And he said, tomorrow you're going to have a, a serious event because this, this, this. And they gave us the, he's very expert at looking at, you know, they, they give you the signs of what they're going to do. And so there will be something that's going to happen tomorrow. And I was. And sure enough, I saw it and everybody saw it, but I was like, tomorrow we're going to come back and we're going to, like, you know, we're going to fix this. This is. And Trump sent us all home. He said, go home. And so I was like, ah, that's little suspect. But, you know, I'm like you, I'm like, I'm observant, I want to believe, but I see some anomalies that don't quite fit. It don't make sense.

B (50:35)

So what I'm trying to champion, and I'm getting a lot of flak for it, is let's go ahead and err on this on the side of Trump being a bad guy, because that's safer for us. Everybody wants to believe in Trump, including me. Either he's with us or he's against us. Right, sure. If we err on the side of him being with us, then we're screwed. If we err on the side of him being an enemy and he turns out to be, then we're, we're good. It's hard to do, though, because we're trying to have hope in someone.

A (51:03)

Yeah, it's a good point. And that's, that's part of, you know, my, my background being military. Guys like you, you, you hope for the best, but you plan for the worst.

B (51:13)

Right? That's what I'm chanting here.

A (51:16)

Yeah. And in this case, that's, that's a good point, because he has proven many times not to do the right thing. And. And a lot of us have given him a little Lee. A lot of leeway really, and have, you know, explained it away. And he did it because of this. But I remember the COVID you know, the Operation Warp Speed. I was like, what? It's like, yeah. So, you know, I. I moved. I moved from California because it was like, so. So locked down, so crazy. I moved to Florida and we had, you know, we get around at least. And he did an event there, and I'd been to a couple events. I've been one in Nevada where he came, and I was like, everybody's happy and had a good time. Nobody, no one, hardly anybody masked up. So, you know, he's promoting that. And then he comes in to the Florida event, and this is, I guess probably 20, 23 maybe, or 22. Probably close to 22. So not long after Covid, a lot of places still locked down around the country. So he comes in and she's talking about, you know, I did Operation Warp Speed and you got the vaccination. Everybody booed him. And that was the last time that he ever brought it up again.

B (52:29)

I remember that.

A (52:29)

And, you know, he had brought it up. He'd been on shows. He said it was because of me. I brought in Operation War Speed, blah, blah, blah, blah. And everybody's like, nah, that's. We don't. That's. And so we booed him, the whole crowd. There must have been 10, 15, 20,000 people there. It was huge. It's on a, you know, fairgrounds. We. We waited in the rain. It rained. It was like crazy. And, uh, he comes out and says that everybody booed him and that was the last time he said it.

B (52:56)

That's what I mean. It's kind of hard to pin him down. It really is. You know, some. A lot of people want me to make a statement. I don't know. I really don't know. I don't know what side he's on. I hope he's on our side. But, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm going to carry on as though he's not. Just for my own safety, I'm going to carry on.

A (53:13)

Interesting way to put it.

B (53:14)

Yeah, I'm the cynical man here. Some of you know, you guys need me to bring this stuff up, right?

A (53:20)

That's right. So, yeah, the. Their sacrifice and all the stuff that they're doing behind the scenes and, you know, there's been a lot of people that have come out and said that Trump was involved and not to sacrifices but he was involved with Epstein. We see the videos of him with Epstein hanging out and. But there was a time, I guess, that he was coming onto Trump's Morago date and doing some bad things. And so he's like, okay, don't let him back on anymore. So it's kind of like the same thing, you know, he, he allows certain things or he thinks certain things, and he talks about, Talks out about it, and then we say no. So the people that were on the estate were like, hey, he's doing this. And he's like, oh, well, don't let it back on anymore. It sounds like, you know, you might be right. So we, we kind of like, you know, look at him. Hey, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna look at you. If you're not doing the right thing, we're gonna assume the worst until you prove otherwise. And it seems to get him moving.

B (54:21)

So, so, so from my perspective, you cannot be a billionaire unless the other Bill, all the other billionaires accept you into the club. You can have a billionaire, you can have a billion dollar idea, but without their support and their resources, you're not gonna get anywhere. You need their money. You need their infrastructure. If you're, if you don't sign up to be with them, you're not gonna be with it, be with them. Right? There's no other way to be a billionaire. Or maybe there is, I don't know. But from my perspective, there's really no other way. Now, you could trick them. You could trick them just like they're tricking us. You could be really clever. You could play 4D chess and get in there, but they're not going to let you in unless they believe you're one of. You're one of them. That's just, you know, keep that in mind. They're not going to let. The billionaire club is not going to let anybody in unless they believe you are one of them. So if he's that clever, great. I hope so. He's got to have. He's got to have some mighty warriors behind him.

A (55:12)

Yeah. And that's, That's a huge burden.

B (55:16)

That's a huge burden.

A (55:19)

Yeah, we've heard the Q team basically selected him. And if that's true, or that's part of the 4D chess or, you know, whatever that is you were, you had infiltrated, which obviously, if, if he's a good guy, they all know he's infiltrated. Of course, they tried to kill him a few times, so that's a good indicator. Or at Least it seems like they tried to. I looked at those events where he was going to be assassinated, and I say, because I was, I used to do protective details. That's. No. So, yeah, I called it out very early on. So was it a captured operation where they knew he was going to be assassinated and they just basically, you know, laid it off as a movie and they brought in the guy that was going to do it and they left him on the roof. It's like, look, he's got some dry blood, which doesn't make sense, and he's got some fresh blood. So to me, I was like, they killed that guy and placed him up there.

B (56:14)

So if you're a double spy, like, I'm, like, I'm suggesting Trump is. If you're a double spy, you're going to go along with all their plans. If they say, hey, we need to, we need to bump you up a little bit. Let's, let's do a fake assassination, they're going to go along with it. And now I'm not suggesting, I'm not claiming this, I'm not championing that. I'm not, I'm just, you know, I'm not debating. I'm just saying this is a, this is a possibility. Yeah. If you, if you're, if you're, and when the warriors speaking before, I mean, spiritual warriors, you know, if Trump, for Trump to pull this off, if he's doing what we're suggesting he's doing and he's pulling it off, he's, he needs some, he's got some mighty powerful spiritual warriors talking to him every night.

A (56:52)

Yeah.

B (56:53)

He may not know that, but they are.

A (56:56)

Yeah. I sent, I send him protection. I don't feel that he's, he's all that bad. I, no one's perfect. Of course, we're all sinners in a, on a certain level, but, you know, has he sinned to a level where it's not acceptable or has he not crossed that line? So you've been around a lot of people that have crossed the line, and some people that didn't. You were one that didn't cross, cross that line. Do you think it's possible that maybe he's, he's played around, but he didn't cross the line?

B (57:24)

Well, I was just about to say I look for certain characteristics and, and traits and symbols and other things when I'm trying to decide on someone like Trump is a wild card. He doesn't, he doesn't fit the mold, he doesn't fit the criteria, but he's in the position. So from my perspective, it's really hard to figure him out, and I would really rather not have him. Let him just do his own thing and hope the best. Right.

A (57:48)

Yeah. I look at his family, and his family doesn't fit that category. Maybe one or two, I don't know. But. And I look at, you know, Biden and Kamala's family, they're all like, corrupt, you know, they're all like, disgusting people. And so. They are. Yeah.

B (58:04)

That's the other thing. Of course, if he is one of them, that, then, that. I shouldn't say this. Well, anyway, if he is one of them and he's tricking us all and he's a bad guy, that means Melania is a. Is a. And. And Baron is a hybrid. That's the world. That's the world we live in, isn't it? I mean, that's our choices. Let's hope. Let's hope that he's. He's. He's protected by spiritual warriors and not one of them. I mean, that's. That's a strange, awful place to be in.

A (58:32)

Yeah. Yep. So, yeah, I, I stay neutral, stay observant. It sounds like you're doing the same thing, but you're like.

B (58:40)

You're.

A (58:41)

You hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Like I just said, that's kind of military mindset. I have spoken out a few times and I get a lot of flack, but this is just a discussion. We want people to think. Critical thinking is extremely important. You just follow someone blindly and nothing happens. It seems to be what's going on right now. Nothing's happening. So I don't like the blind following. I like. Okay, it's time to get busy. Otherwise we're going to start leaning in here and that's. I think that's where things are moving.

B (59:13)

Right. That's why. Well, I mean, that's why we live the way we live. We live way we live, off grid. We've been doing this for years. I've been. We've done it for a long time and we still don't. I don't know why more people don't get out of sleep. We still don't have it. Right. We're still learning. It's still difficult. I mean, but we're getting older, but yeah, we. I can close the gates up here. We. We can live indefinitely.

A (59:31)

Nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's beautiful. I. You know, I got a great wife to put up with me and I know you got a great wife to put up with you and, you know, through all the. All the craziness. So, you know, congratulations on that and congratulations on your book, Silicon Satan. Now you have. You have plans for another one. I'm looking forward to it.

B (59:51)

Yeah. I'm gonna write. I think I'm gonna write this one from a different perspective of someone I knew that was on the other side, the Satanist side that was talking about and what they went through. She was going to help me come up with some of the details, but, yeah, that's sort of the plan. I didn't. Yeah. I'm not a writer. I didn't really mean to write this book. I'll write the second one better.

A (60:14)

Oh, very good. Yeah. And so, you know, even better reveal next time, I think, because you've gotten the hang of it to a certain extent. So Jerome, great guy. Helped you out. So that's beautiful.

B (60:26)

Yeah, he helped me quite a bit.

A (60:27)

Yeah.

B (60:28)

The next. If I write the next one, I'll leave. I won't put in so much backstory, and I'll put in a little bit more details without all the gore. Let's see. You know, people accuses me of writing a porn, but that's the life I live. That's the life. That's the world I was in. I wrote what I saw. So if it's pornography to you, then don't read it. And I tell people, this book is not for everybody. If you don't have a strong foundation and your spirit world, you know, in Chris, in Christianity, then don't read it. It's just going to make you mad or freak you out.

A (60:58)

Yeah, you should be going at it like. Like I am with the. The idea that I want to learn about that side, and I know they do crazy stuff. So when I see, like, when I did the gravy story, when I saw that, I'm like, okay, Yep, that's. That's pretty crazy. And I. It's probably just the tip of the iceberg. So let's go. Let's. I'm ready. Let's give me some more.

B (61:21)

All right.

A (61:21)

It's gonna be. It's gonna be a fun ride. So, Craig, fantastic. You're. You're sharing all this information. You're absolutely hero. You and your wife, you know, working together to get this out there. Of course, he. Of course, you know, you've been on a few podcasts now, and, you know, hopefully we'll get you out there more. Everybody needs to listen to this and, you know, get some ideas. We need to work together. Like you're talking about. The men need to get together and start to, uh, make some stuff happen.

B (61:48)

Yeah, absolutely.

A (61:49)

Absolutely. So thanks a lot and look forward to doing more show shows in the future with you.

B (61:55)

Great. Thanks for having me.

A (61:57)

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you.

B (61:58)

Seriously.