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In this powerful returning episode, Michael Jaco sits down with Gene Decode for a deep and wide-ranging discussion exploring spirituality, consciousness, and what Gene describes as hidden forces shaping world events.

Gene recounts a life-changing near-death experience following a severe martial-arts injury, describing how he believes he left his body, traveled beyond Earth, encountered the Creator, and returned with new awareness about timelines, consciousness, and humanity’s possible futures. He explains his perspective on a coming divergence — what he calls a split between a lower-consciousness path and a higher-frequency “5D Earth.”

The conversation also explores disclosure themes, hidden systems, and Gene’s interpretation of the Epstein files and their broader implications. He discusses awakening, timeline shifts, and humanity’s crossroads between conflict and transformation.

The episode closes with reflections on faith, purpose, and the future — and plans for Gene to return for a deeper visual presentation.

🌐 Gene Decode:
https://genedecode.org

🌐 Michael Jaco:
https://michaelkjaco.com