Unleashing Intuition Secrets: LifeWave X39 Breakthrough

Host: Michael Jaco
Guest: Ali Van Z
Date: February 16, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode, recorded aboard a LifeWave incentive cruise, features ex-Navy SEAL and CIA specialist Michael Jaco in conversation with top-performing LifeWave team member Ali Van Z. The discussion focuses on LifeWave’s X39 patch, its unique approach to cellular activation and health, and how the business model can support building a fulfilling, freedom-oriented lifestyle. The hosts share personal and client testimonials, discuss business-building strategies, and address skepticism and frequently asked questions about the technology and network marketing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction and Team Atmosphere

• [00:02-01:24] Michael sets the scene onboard the cruise ship, introduces Ali, and reflects on the supportive, team-based culture within LifeWave.
• [01:21] Michael: “We also learned that Lifewave is going to start to reward people, customers. ...So what did, what, what were your notes on that? I know you're taking great notes.”

2. Upcoming Customer Incentive Program

• [01:41-02:05] Ali teases a forthcoming customer incentive event, emphasizing the opportunity for new customers and the importance of connecting during promotional periods.

3. Building a Legacy Business with LifeWave

• [02:05-03:47] Michael highlights the value of LifeWave’s business model—emphasizing “legacy business” and generational transfer.
• [02:52] Ali: “If you join me, you join him. We come together as a package in a sense.”
• [04:09] Michael discusses past failures at Amway but rapid early success with LifeWave, noting its accessibility to people without prior business experience.

4. Team Building and Duplication Systems

• [04:35-06:06] Ali details her people-first philosophy, the power of serving over selling, and the importance of duplicatable systems:
  • “If you speak to serve, you're not going to have a great business. But if you speak to serve...it makes it about the other person.” [05:17, Ali]
• They emphasize supporting newcomers at any experience level.

5. International Reach and Product Accessibility

• [06:06-07:19] LifeWave's international success, particularly in Romania and Poland, is discussed. Ali highlights the simplicity of joining—from Canada and abroad—and emphasizes using accessible links and support lines.

6. The Science and Technology Behind X39

• [07:19-09:21] Ali, drawing on her background as a nurse, explains the technology:
  • X39 works via phototherapy—activating a naturally declining peptide (GHK-Cu) with your body’s own infrared light, no ingestion required.
  • “What’s simple about it is you put it on for 12 hours and then you take it off for 12 hours...nothing is going in the body.” [08:27, Ali]

7. Testimonials and Real-Life Experiences

• [09:23-13:01] Michael and Ali share remarkable recovery stories, including life-changing pain relief, rapid post-surgery recoveries, and weight loss.
  • Michael: “I put this patch on that basically turned it around within seconds and the pain was gone.” [11:28]
• Ali recommends cross-checking research (“PubMed, put in GHKU, copper, peptide”).

8. Motivation, Mindset, and Personal Growth

• [15:19-18:10] Ali shares a powerful story about overcoming internal "noise" and the lifelong presence of a “drill sergeant” voice—gone since her first use of the patch:
  • “That first night...the drill sergeant is gone from between my ears. ...I never want to go back to the person I was pre patch.” [17:07, Ali]
• Michael draws analogies to SEAL training: resilience, focus, and not quitting too soon.

9. Supporting Customers at All Levels

• [18:10-26:04] Michael and Ali discuss program accessibility for customers and brand partners at all interest and investment levels.
  • Entry options range from $99 for a preferred customer, up to higher product bundles for those ready to “go all in.”
  • Ali emphasizes building personal relationships and customizing support, not just making sales.

10. Addressing Skepticism and FAQs

• Pyramid Schemes & Earning Potential:
  • Michael (and Ali) refute pyramid scheme accusations, explaining how earnings correlate with service and action, accessible to all.
  • “Pyramid schemes are illegal, first of all.” [33:39, Ali]
• Are Stem Cells in the Patch?:
  • “No, it’s a crystalline matrix, amino acid, salt, sugars...the reflected signal upregulates GHK copper peptide which is responsible for activating younger, healthier stem cells. ...Nothing in the patch is going into your body. It is non-transdermal.” [35:09-35:43, Ali]

11. The Network and Support System

• [41:01-43:52] The team’s ongoing support structures are highlighted:
  • “Miracle Monday” (customer testimonials)
  • “Wednesday Mastermind” (top performers, in-depth business strategy)
  • “Friday Business Maker” (business opportunities and build-out tips)
• Ali: “The more we help one another, the better the world becomes. Everybody has a struggle...it's through our struggles that we actually become the people that God needs us to become.” [42:12, Ali]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Adaptability & Success:

  • Michael: “Anyone, without any experience in business...can build this business and do very successful.” [03:02]

• On Service Over Selling:

  • Ali: “If you speak to serve...it gets yourself out of the way and makes it about the other person.” [05:17]
  • “So much happiness just naturally evolves as a result of reaching out and serving.” [05:58, Ali]

• On the Technology:

  • Ali: “It's your body's infrared light that is actually turning the patch on.” [09:11]

• On Personal Transformation:

  • Ali: “I never want to go back to the person I was pre patch.” [17:15]

• On Teamwork:

  • “If you join me, you join him. We come together as a package in a sense.” [03:47, Ali]

• On Business Philosophy:

  • “People don’t duplicate, but systems do.” [04:50, Ali]

• On Results:

  • Michael: “After nine days...being bedridden...he got up.” [10:42]
  • Michael: “I paid a lot less than $10,000 [for patches]...it has turned around my body on so many multiple levels.” [37:06]

Timestamps by Section

• [00:02] — Cruise setting, team celebration, guest intro
• [01:41] — Announcement: New customer incentive event
• [02:05] — Legacy potential and team-building with LifeWave
• [04:35] — Network marketing experience and duplication via systems
• [06:27] — International reach and joining instructions
• [07:19] — How the X39 patch works: science explained
• [09:21] — On-the-spot testimonials and scientific validation
• [15:19] — Ali’s motivation to join LifeWave and her transformation story
• [17:07] — Mental health impact: removing the “drill sergeant”
• [24:48] — LifeWave and the problem with pharmaceuticals
• [26:04] — Getting started: pricing, support, and relationship focus
• [33:31] — Misconceptions about earnings and company structure
• [35:09] — How the patch functions (not a stem cell injection)
• [41:01] — Team structure and ongoing support calls
• [42:12] — Faith, perseverance, and the power of helping others
• [46:09] — Closing remarks and call to action

Flow & Tone

The episode is casual, conversational, and high-energy—reflecting both hosts’ passion for health, service, and entrepreneurial freedom. There’s a strong sense of camaraderie, authenticity, and positivity, with both speakers sharing personal stories and reinforcing the LifeWave mission as a blend of science, support, and opportunity.

In Summary

Michael Jaco and Ali Van Z present a compelling overview of the LifeWave X39 technology, framing it as an accessible wellness innovation and business opportunity. Through personal and client experiences, they highlight both health and lifestyle transformations while addressing common questions and objections. The tone is inclusive and encouraging, with frequent reminders that successes are achievable for anyone with a willingness to learn, serve, and persist.