We Are Quantum Roundtable: Consciousness, Intuition & Human Evolution

Summary

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Unleashing Intuition Secrets

Episode: We Are Quantum Roundtable: Consciousness, Intuition & Human Evolution
Host: Michael Jaco
Air Date: June 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This special roundtable episode celebrates the release of "We Are Quantum," a collaborative book featuring 36 authors reflecting on the nature of consciousness, intuition, personal evolution, and our interconnectedness through quantum principles. Led by host Michael Jaco and co-moderator Lisa Schermerhorn, the discussion explores personal stories of intuition, near-death experiences, creativity, forgiveness, and the universal journey toward higher consciousness. The panel features authors, healers, artists, and experiencers, each offering unique perspectives on what it means to be "quantum" and how we can collectively evolve.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What Does "We Are Quantum" Mean?

[00:39–09:29]

• Lisa Schermerhorn opens with gratitude and emotion, explaining the genesis of the book as a response to her daughter's question: "What is quantum?" She saw storytelling as a way to communicate quantum ideas as expressions of humanity and uniqueness.
• Dr. Kerry Maday blends quantum with spirituality, describing humans as spiritual beings with both consciousness and higher spirit, capable of miracles and experiences beyond the physical. Shares a profound childhood near-death experience illuminating how "time and space are not what we think" ([02:21]).
  • “What you think has to happen in the physical realm does not have to happen that way because we’re going into the spiritual realm.” (Dr. Kerry Maday, [03:37])
• Michael Jaco relates quantum physics to intuition and survival, stressing entanglement’s role in his military intuition (as a Navy SEAL and CIA operative). He describes predicting enemy attacks through heightened states of consciousness and intuitive awareness.
  • “Time and space are irrelevant once you reach these levels of consciousness.” (Michael Jaco, [06:14])
• Tom (inspired by "Matrix" authorship) urges embracing childlike wonderment and compassion, framing quantum as collaborative creation without ego ([06:38]).
  • “Compassion and humility is really what's going to advance our society to the next level.” (Tom, [07:07])
• Barry and others stress the soul’s journey, near-death renewal, and that everyone possesses inherent quantum abilities.

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2. Personal Stories: Experiences Shaping Quantum Awareness

[09:29–15:00]

• Jen shares how her mother’s and her own near-death experiences informed a lifelong openness to intuition and healing, instilling this in her children (“we all have it, it’s within all of us”).
• Chris O’Connor describes literal consciousness transfer experiences—moving between bodies in covert programs, highlighting the adaptability and energetic adaptability of consciousness ([12:22]).
  • “If you went to sleep and woke up...you could be 20 years younger. In my case, I was 20 years younger twice by doing that.”
• Barry illustrates a childhood immersed in nature, creative freedom, and resilience against naysaying—a path of self-trust rather than trauma-driven awakening.

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3. When Did You Realize Reality Isn’t As It Seems?

[17:12–20:24]

• Joe recalls a pivotal moment: “The world you think you’re living in and the world you’re living in are two different things.” Friends opened his perspective to deeper truths ([17:33]).
• Tom, contrastingly, discusses childhood abuse, survival, and the resilience that sparked his drive to tell transformative stories through the “Matrix,” reframing trauma as a springboard for growth.
  • “If you’re abused, it just gives you a new platform to launch from...that platform can be high and mighty.” ([19:26])

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4. Human Potential: Forgotten Capacities

[20:25–23:23]

• Barry: Reminds us we “can do whatever we want,” describing the process from thought to matter: “If you can imagine it, then you can do it.”
• Michael Jaco: Shares practical mastery developed through higher states (elite marksmanship, hand-to-hand combat), which expanded further into remote viewing and recalling past lives.
  • “Every one of you listening can—and probably are—your own master in your own realm, and you can advance that.” ([22:40])
• Chris O’Connor: Unpacks the move from “third” to “fourth density” (the so-called 5D), emphasizing the power of love as the creative frequency of the universe, and the evolutionary importance of compassion and non-judgment ([23:23]).
  • “Fourth density is about the lessons of love...Love is not just an emotion. It is an energetic frequency.”

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5. Many Paths to the Quantum

[27:00–29:45]

• Tom encourages listeners to value their unique spiritual journey, inviting everyone (including children) to name and customize their path: “There’s not one way, there are a hundred ways.”
• Lisa Schermerhorn: Stresses the importance of including diverse voices and stories beyond celebrities to show that quantum ability is universal.

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6. Waking Up: Oppression, Faith, and Purpose

[29:45–35:23]

• Dr. Kerry Maday: Shares childhood awareness of “controllers and controlled,” her commitment to spiritual awakening and Christian faith, and the importance of embracing one’s “I am” power.
• Jen & Lisa discuss generational shifts toward faith and the importance of forgiveness—moving from reactionary anger to compassion and neutrality as tools for manifestation ([35:23]).
  • “The true forgiveness is when you're at a place of neutrality and that person no longer triggers you.” (Lisa, [35:23])

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7. Forgiveness, Compassion & Moving Forward

[35:57–40:33]

• Tom: Calls for non-judgment and unity, notably within Christian communities. Urges for the lifting of creative and spiritual expression free from doctrinal restriction.
  • “If you have ego in Christianity, you're not a Christian. If you get rid of the ego and have compassion...let's free up what's possible.” ([38:37])
• Chris O’Connor: Emphasizes practical self-inquiry, loving others regardless of differences, and removing victim mentality to foster real spiritual evolution.

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8. Love, Boundaries, and the Challenge of Universal Acceptance

[40:34–47:44]

• Lisa raises the challenge of loving those who trigger or oppose us. Chris and Barry explain that higher-evolved beings see humanity’s violence as a sign of immaturity; collective evolution depends on mastering non-judgment and compassion.
• Dr. Kerry Maday: Advocates for spiritual “warfare” conducted through love and prayer, not violence.
• Chris: Shares his method of healing through “love only”—that darkness can’t persist where light (love) is present:
  • “I have 100% success rate that it’s only ever done in love. It isn’t done in judgment.” ([43:11])
• Barry: Metaphorically, “We are all cells in the body of God,” so to hate another is to hate oneself.

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9. Art, Music, & Creativity: Gateways to the Quantum

[47:45–61:49]

• Lisa & Honey: Discuss the healing, heart-opening power of art and self-expression, especially during difficult collective moments (e.g., Barry’s Awakening Love Project during COVID).
  • “Art is really the true currency...the real currency of our whole being.” (Honey, [52:51])
• Joe: Reflects on personal struggles with creative blocks and affirmation from the community. The need for genuine expression over commercial or technological (AI) trends is underscored.
  • “Sometimes we all gotta recharge the batteries and help each other...it can be a gift and it can be isolating.” (Joe, [61:49])
• Lisa: Recounts how creative validation and healing her inner child led to empowerment—encouraging listeners to see their own creative gifts.

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10. Healing, Encouragement, & Closing Reflections

[62:48–69:32]

• Jen: Shares a memorable epiphany: “Did you know enthusiasm is a grace from God and you have it abundantly?” and encourages everyone to look for the “angels” who awaken us to our quantum potential ([62:48]).
• Michael Jaco: Affectionately calls his fellow panelists “angels” and shares gratitude for the collaborative journey.
• Lisa: Announces upcoming author events and interviews for "We Are Quantum," emphasizing her mission that "even one person reading one story and going deep makes the project worthwhile."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Time and space are not what we think.” — Dr. Kerry Maday ([03:37])
• “If you’re abused, it just gives you a new platform to launch from.” — Tom ([19:26])
• “If you can imagine it, you can do it.” — Barry ([21:10])
• “Every one of you listening can—and probably are—your own master in your own realm, and you can advance that.” — Michael Jaco ([22:40])
• “Quantum is togetherness across diversity.” — Tom ([38:25])
• “We are all cells in the body of God...just to let them do what they're doing now. If they're attacking you, you just say no...But you don't have to hate them because of it.” — Barry ([44:19])
• “Art is really the true currency...of our whole being.” — Honey ([52:51])
• “Did you know enthusiasm is a grace from God and you have it abundantly?” — Monsignor Phil Kenney, as retold by Jen ([62:48])

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Important Timestamps

• [00:39] Lisa introduces the heart of "We Are Quantum"
• [02:21] Dr. Kerry’s childhood spiritual awakening & near-death experience
• [06:14] Michael Jaco on quantum intuition in military life
• [12:22] Chris O’Connor on conscious transfers into new bodies
• [19:26] Tom on trauma, resilience, and the real message of "The Matrix"
• [22:40] Michael Jaco: Mastery through consciousness
• [23:23] Chris O’Connor: The journey from third to fourth density
• [29:47] Dr. Kerry on controllers, spiritual boot camp, and faith
• [35:23] Lisa on true forgiveness and manifestation
• [38:25] Tom’s call for unity across faiths and creativity
• [43:11] Chris’s healing work: “only ever done in love”
• [52:51] Honey: Art as soul currency and community healing
• [61:49] Lisa on healing the inner child and creative self-expression
• [62:48] Jen: Enthusiasm is a divine gift

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Closing Thoughts

Through heartfelt sharing, the panel demonstrates that the “quantum” is not just a scientific or spiritual term, but an experiential reality—a remembering and unleashing of our true potential as creators, healers, and collaborators. The episode reflects the book’s premise: every story matters, every path is unique, and together we can co-create a new reality where intuition and love guide human evolution.

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To connect more:

• Visit Lisa Schermerhorn’s website and YouTube channel for interviews and event info
• "We Are Quantum" Author Event: June 16th, details on the book’s webpage

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Transcript

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[Michael Jacob]

Hello, everybody. It's Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets. We got quite a panel here today. We're going to be talking about We Are Quantum, a new book that Lisa Schermerhorn has come out with. And I'm going to turn it over to Lisa. Lisa, thanks for bringing us all together for this.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Oh, thank you. There's 36 authors all together. I'm just sitting here looking at this amazing group of people and I'm actually getting really emotional because this whole thing started over a year ago when my daughter came to me and said, yeah, asked me what is quantum? And I read books on quantum physics and I'm like, I don't think she wants any of that. And then I thought, what's the best way to explain quantum? And I thought through story. And then I started to think about all the people that I know that basically quantum is an expression of each person's humanity everyone expresses in such a different way. And I thought if people got a little bit from, you know, something from one person that they can relate to. And everyone here has such an incredible diverse background and I just. It's taken flight on its own. And I just so honored and privileged to know I'm personal friends and have met almost every single person in this book except one person, which is Sir Robert Edward Grant, who came to me through another person. But yeah, I'm so excited. So I have a number of questions and when we talk about we are Quantum. And I don't know who wants to answer this question. When you hear those three words, what do they mean to you personally and what experiences have. Have convinced you that reality is more than we thought. So I don't know if anyone wants to answer that one below the question.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

I'll start. That's okay. Okay. Quantum to me, I have a Christian background, so I believe it's describing us as spiritual beings. We have a soul, consciousness, then also a spirit. And we're in this flesh body temporarily. So we're more than just this physical construct that we've been born into and taught. And so knowing that when we really understand that and embrace that, then the supernatural is expected. Miracles are expected. We get, become alive, connected with our Creator, the Holy Spirit. For me and I had experiences since I was a young child, and at least I'll you know quite a bit of my stories. And I had. At three years old, I had a dog attack me. And it was quite severe, a German shepherd. And I was being thrown around like a rag doll. I could see it because I left my body and I was floating with angel, with. That was Jesus. And we laughed for a while. I didn't want to go back to Earth. And then he brought me back, said, you can stay or go. And I knew it. Obviously, it was my higher self, my. My spirit, understanding what this meant. And I felt bad for the chaos happening on Earth because my parents were very upset. Neighbors had already come over. They couldn't get the dog off me, you know, yelling. And so I said, oh, I need to go back. Before I could even get the words in my mind, my consciousness, I was instantly in my body. The dog let go and ran away, shocked. They're like, we have to take her to the hospital. She's bleeding. But when they started to look at me, there's not even one scratch on me. And of course, to me, I understood at that moment because God gave me that ability as a little child to know that this, what you think has to happen in the physical realm, does not have to happen that way because we're going into the spiritual realm. Time and space are not what we think of it here on Earth. And that's when I go into the chapter I wrote about how prayers go outside of time and space so they could technically work in the. What we see as the past and the future, not just the present time. So that's my introduction to it. I. The more I go through my trials and tribulations, learn more. I know this to be true and walk in the spirit. And as much as I can, it's a journey.

[Michael Jacob]

Perfect.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Amazing. Amazing. Chris? Oh, go ahead, Michael.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, I like to go. There's. When I look at it, my background is a Navy SEAL Team 6, Tier 1, and then CIA for a long time. Very spiritual, remote viewer, all that kind of stuff. But I look at it because if I hadn't become a Navy seal, I probably would have been a physicist, believe it or not. So I. I'm really into quantum physics and mechanics, and it basically talks about entanglement, so particles can become deeply interconnected, instantly sharing states across distances. So when I was in combat zones, and I talk about this in the book with Lisa, I was able to know when attacks were coming because I'm reaching that entanglement. I'm focusing my mind to tell me when there's going to be an attack, tell me when there's going to be a threat. And I would pick up on it sometimes a week before it happened. And I would tell my teams that it was going to happen. I would tell them where it's going to happen, the time, all kinds of different stuff like that. Of course, most people were like, oh, that's crazy. In fact, the guys I work with are like, you're out of there. And then. And then it would happen. And they're like, okay, we don't understand what you're doing, but let us know if you see something else. So I kept them informed and we. Every place that I went, there was never anyone that got injured because I kept everybody safe. So that's part of the entanglement. So time and space are irrelevant once you reach these levels of consciousness.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Did they ever accuse you of being a spy because you knew things before you, before everyone else?

[Michael Jacob]

No, because I was a spy, work for the CIA. I can't be accused being a spy.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Love that.

[Barry]

Oh my gosh. Is anyone else?

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Oh, Tom.

[Tom]

So, yeah, I love it. I love following great people. This is awesome. And thanks for putting this assembly together. I just want to be brief and share that from my childhood experience that led to the story of the Matrix. First of all, the Matrix allowed me to experience a crucible of rejection, which was really a great development process. To be rejected by a world to be looked at a sconce. If you say you wrote something even though you did it, all the copyrights really did allow me to develop in a different world sense. And one of the things I learned was compassion and humility is really what's going to advance our society to the next level. When you say quantum, I'm thinking about how we replace what we think we know with childlike wonderment. When we do that, we're going to open the gateways for all of us to embrace. If you watch how children play together, often they embrace each other. They create together. That's what we need. We with our sciences and everything else, our schooling, we need to go open up to creating together in a friendly environment where we allow wonderment to take over. Instead of ego, compassion, humility will drive us and it'll be a joy in creating, a joy in striving together, a joy in advancing humanity. And that's what I want to bring to the table.

[Chris O'Connor]

Beautiful.

[Joe]

Wow. I just got to say that's what's happened with meeting Lisa in and Barry in person and Then, honey, over in Ireland and then meeting Chris o' Connor at the Awakening Summit. Now he's. It's just. You absolutely nailed it, Tom. And we're watching it unfold in real time because that's how this is coming to be today. That's incredible.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Does anyone else have anything they want to say about we are quantum? Yeah, go ahead, Danny.

[Barry]

So I just want to talk about the soul for a minute because we come in here for this big experience and we're in here for an experience that's bigger than we've ever had before. And I know when I was little I was like, oh my gosh, I'm here again, can I please go? But I knew I was here for a reason. And I did have a near death experience and came back because I knew that I needed to stay for my parents. But I was like 7, turning 8. And when you're just focused on your soul and the lessons that you're learning here and all the things that you're here to create and do and experience and you can see it from above instead of being miserable about things, then your whole life just opens up. And we're here to have that open up right now. So I'm just really excited about the time that we're in and being quantum. Is everybody here is quantum? Everybody watching is quantum. We're all eternal and just remembering that.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah, go ahead, Jeff.

[Jen]

You guys, I love this discussion. I'm thinking going to my mother who at 15 died on the table and told me afterwards she saw everything going on in the room and, and the doctor coming in saying she was dead, blah, blah, blah. That's how I was brought up. So I brought my four daughters up that way to know that they were intuitive and quantum would be the word, but we didn't use that. And they have a godfather that was an incredible psychic healer, Alex Hannis. And he wrote a book, you and your psychic child. So I tried what he wanted, what you are saying, he wanted every single person to know we all have it. It's easy and we all have it. People got nervous about the title, but I know that it's within all of us. The quantum, the healing and that we're all healers. And so my life was involved with hospice 40 years and now Lifewave with Michael and Tracy Jo. But I just the idea of laying on of hands all that that you here have all experienced. I know you're all healers and I sit amongst you sometimes and I'm thrilled. Anyway, I'm going to stop Tom. You Brought us back to childhood. And I went right there. One other thing I'll say I did drown when I was 15 and a being came and to me and told me to pull my hand up and I was saved out of that. And I've seen at age 2, I saw Jesus through my life I've been able to relate to things outside of me.

[Barry]

Okay, thank you.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

You know what's interesting because you've got all these people who've had near death experiences here on the panel. And I just spoke to this woman, Kara Curry, who remembered everything. She came in remembering everything, being able to see through the veil. She's fascinating woman. And she said she refers to frequency and vibration as notes, like moving the scale of music. And one of the things she said because she had four near death experiences, every time you have one of those, you're soul frequency moves up an octave.

[Tom]

Wow.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

It goes up a note. And that's why you see so many people who have had near death experiences. Their psychic abilities and what they bring in to this world is much more enhanced. Just thought that was fascinating. And I know Chris, you've had many different lifetimes. A few, A few that he remembers for people don't know him. He's been part, he's been aged, he's been taken at the age of two, age progressed, moved into several different bodies. And I'd like for you to talk about what it's like to be put into a new body. Having your consciousness, having your consciousness aware and what that experience was like.

[Chris O'Connor]

Honestly, it's. If you went to sleep and woke up, the only difference is you could be 20 years younger. In my case, I was 20 years younger twice by doing that. But then it took a couple or three, four days for my consciousness, which is connected to the pineal gland, connected to the brain and which is inter, interconnected to the nervous system, pie's electric energy. And it takes a couple of days for the consciousness and soul to actually integrate into the full system. So you feel like you have the flu for three, four days and then once you're over that, it's perfectly fine. But it doesn't feel like you were moved. If you have a pain in your body, then you wake up and there's no pain anymore. That would be the difference, but for the most part. But you could be moved and you wouldn't really know it. You just feel like you've had a few days of being really off. Why the body integrates.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

But to look in the mirror and see yourself 20 years younger in a New body has got to be a

[Chris O'Connor]

shocking experience, but expect it.

[Honey]

Timing.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

Chris.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yes. You knew you were. You knew you were having that happen.

[Chris O'Connor]

Yeah. It wasn't a total shock.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah.

[Chris O'Connor]

I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's what I'm supposed to look like

[Honey]

now.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

One of the cool things about Barry that is different than a lot of the authors. There's 36 people have contributed. One of the things why I wanted her story in this is the fact that I always believed that we had to be wounded and have some kind of an experience to overcome in order to step into what our gifts were right to help us remember. That was just always the wounded healer. Like someone overcomes adversity, and then they step into their power. But Barry grew up, and. I don't know if you want to talk about that. Was like, literally grew up, like, where she is now, literally in the woods on a ski mountain, just with horses and just out in nature. So I don't know if you want to talk about that and what someone tried to do to you.

[Honey]

Oh, okay, sure. Yes, I did grow up in nature, and I'm very comfortable. Oh, did you hear the bird?

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Did you guys hear that?

[Honey]

Anyway. Yes. My family owned ski areas. My father built them. And so I had this incredible playground to be a wild child. And I didn't have all these rules because I had parents that weren't by my side all the time, hovering. I never actually knew where they were. I knew that we were all fine, but I lived in a valley, and it was very safe, and we all just did our own thing. And that's how I've gone through life. I've just done my own thing. And I never saw my parents work for anybody. So I decided, oh, then that's how I do it. It's all the programming that we get. And to answer what you said, Lisa, about trauma or hardship, I'm not saying that I've had. Definitely had some sadness over relationships, but I just feel like I've been very fortunate. And I've always gone through life just being very excited about all the possibilities and the visual language that I speak and the art that I see. I've seen hundreds of scenes since I've been sitting in this forest, because my mind and my body and my eyes go there, all my senses. And I just spent the last three days doing watercolor workshop, and I actually have paint all over my hands and what fills my soul. And I have had some. A family member that tried to. When I was 18, I was going to school in New York City School of Visual Arts. And I walked into the apartment and my relative was there, and I was telling him what I was doing. I was 18. I was. The world's your oyster, right. And he goes, good luck making it in photography, financially, et cetera. And I looked at him and I said, oh, really? Watch me and don't ever do that to me again. And I basically turned on my heel and it was just. I don't believe in criticism to when somebody's very excited and that all children and people should just fly the best that they can because everything is right there for us. It's quantum.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah.

[Honey]

And art does that.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Thank you. I have a question for everyone here. Was there a specific event or experience that you had that suddenly made you realize that the reality that we were in wasn't the true reality? That with whatever we've been programmed to believe.

[Joe]

Yeah. When I walked out Scott's Airstream and he said, joe, the world you think you're living in and the world you're living in are two different things. And I.

[Tom]

What?

[Joe]

And I had.

[Honey]

I second that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Honey]

And now look at you.

[Joe]

I. With Scott. Yeah. Sometimes I have to digest what he said. This is pre Truth Stream, and then start looking a little bit outside of it. And finally, what made us start Truth Stream, as far as my take on it, I'm like, he needs more people to talk to about this stuff because I don't know anything about it. So I. It's been a crash course. It's been incredible. But, yeah, having friends that help you look at things from different perspectives has been huge. And then I've met. It was cool because I met Michael Jaco in 2021 down in. Shasta. And then just from doing the show and being. Having my life enriched by all these conversations and then meeting all these folks in person. Not everyone here yet. Tom and Carrie and Jen, hopefully you guys soon as well. But it's just been. It's just been an amazing experience to. To have it keep unfolding. And now the people that I'm surrounded with, mainly from the show, they're. That's who I'm looking forward to talk to about the subject matter, because the people, usually in person, maybe, except for yesterday up at the healing spa I went to, but I can't have these conversations. So it's just been incredible to be enriched by these conversations and the people I've met through doing Truth Stream.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah. The key is to be open to it. Right. And to have the open mind because there's so many people just shut down when you hear that. And Tom, I'm curious for you because I know your story. You've had lived with the complete opposite of what Barry's like. You started out with incredible amount of abuse.

[Tom]

It was. It was basically survival. Yeah, yeah, it was all survival. But that's why I feel blessed that I can reach out to those that go through that. And that's why I wrote the Matrix story to mortals was that it could make a world where people like that would fit in and feel good in. I think we become enriched. Those of us that survive, those kind of gauntlets and we find each other and we can say, I see you, well done, you survived it. You know, that resiliency of as a child to that we know a core in us is awakened, our synapses are forming. And in us is that understanding that I will survive, I will make this world better, I will come through. And to have that at five years old and four years old is a jumpstart in life. And so I would want people to think, no, if you're abused, doesn't mean you'll be abuser. If you're abused, it just gives you a new platform to launch from in. That platform can be high and mighty. So.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

So what are human beings actually capable of that we forgot?

[Tom]

Breathing?

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, go ahead, Ani.

[Barry]

I just think that we're capable of whatever we want. And we have to remember that that's what we're doing right now. So we're moving into a time where we're remembering that sound and thoughts are also sounds. Creates light, which creates quantum mathematics or divine mass, which then creates matter. So you have all of these things that are coming together. You know, if you can imagine it, then you can do it.

[Michael Jacob]

Very good. And for me, it's been progressive. When I look on the physical realm, I was doing incredible stuff when I was at Seal Team 6 as far as shooting. I was able to shoot three different silhouettes of a head, three different ones in less than a second. So the reason why I was able to do this, because I started going into these realms of consciousness. I'd read about them, I been through some classes and so forth, but really until I started to let go and going to these realms of consciousness, that's when it really started to kick for me. And then I started a hand to hand program and I was able to do incredible things with that. And then I started remote viewing that took it to another level. And the remote viewing opened the door to so many other things past Lifetimes. I look at some of the historical figures throughout time. There was Ananda with Buddha. I remember being him, being with Buddha. I remember being Claudius Lythias with Jesus and he was a Roman tribune that saved the apostle Paul and all these different things of not just these great masters that I was learning under, but sometimes I was some of those masters as well. And I think that all of us in our own right have become masters with their own realm. So that's. And that's what I would like to say to everyone out there, that every one of you that are listening can and are probably on some level your own master in your own realm and you can advance that over time.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

I totally agree. Chris, you have anything to add on that? From the standpoint of someone who has had an extraordinary life of moving in and out of so many different lifetimes and having awareness and memory and also seeing what potential is. So from where we are now and also connecting with these other higher. I don't know, what would you say higher level beings or higher dimensional beings? Higher density exists. Higher density. Thank you. What is their life like and where do you see us going to actually reach that?

[Chris O'Connor]

That's a really long explanation I can't go into today. But as Earth is Moving from the third to fourth density right now, we call it 4D and we call it 5D and it's really the same thing. Fourth density is the fifth dimension. They have to interact. You have to have both to have physical presence. So it calling it 40 and saying we want to go to 5D is really a huge disservice. And it was an. It's a negative attempt to confuse and separate people and confuse them. And they're not going to continue serving or searching because they don't understand what the letter D means. So just understand. Fourth density is also the fifth dimension. So having said that, every time we step up to another vibrational level, which is a density level, there are a great many lessons and a great many changes that happen. And the fourth density is really a remarkable density and it lasts for a few thousand years. People want to jump to 5D, but no you don't. The beauty and the love is in four and so we don't want to skip it. You can skip it if you'd like. It's not recommended. But for the most part what we do is, is we go through and we search and we understand through the lessons of love, all the facets of love, what love means, how to use love, how to focus love, that love is not Just a, not just an emotion. It is an actual energetic frequency. And that's what the universe was built on, was the frequency of love that turns into photons like Honey was saying, turns into light, it turns into vibration, it turns into material and it turns into you and it turns into me. We just have to connect to that. And that's what fourth density is about. And it's also about communication, higher communication. It's about communication with your own food. We were talking earlier, Carrie was mentioning some stuff about prayer and all that. And I'm all about that. How's race? Fundamentalist Christian. And I had to set everything down and then start picking it back up over the years as I began to understand what they actually meant. But for the most part, prayer, blessing, as you said, is outside of time and space. So when you eat food, for example, you bless every aspect of the food. And not only that, say if you're eating a hamburger, you're gonna. That's several animals, right? That's several cows. But then how many people have partaken in that group of ground beef? Probably thousands. And you bless every single person respectively. And what you're doing is you're just sending that down the line and talk about quantum. To me that is like mega quantum. It's like you're sending love, appreciation, gratitude to the food that sustains us. Where the third density especially is a density of consumption, of self consumption of which we're a part. It's just part of the journey that we take now we move out of that toward the fourth density into the fifth density. Not dimension, fifth density. And then we begin to understand how that works. So I'm not going to continue going on because I could be here for an hour and a half. That's it for now.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Go ahead, Tom.

[Tom]

Yeah, I thought it was a great introduction to. What I want to share real briefly is that you said dimension density. I say dimension. And what's interesting is that we are all on different pathways. And I want those listening to realize that their pathways are very special too. When I wrote the Matrix story they told me in New York. When I pitched it at Bonaventura who said, he claimed to discovered it, he said, this is brand new. How did you come up with this? And then when I wrote the domestics that's just green lighted for Off Broadway right now at the Sheen, they said how, how did you come up with this? Because I created my own path and thought away from everybody else. Each of us can think completely different. Come up with your own names and Name it your own way. Have your children come up with their own names. Have your path. And Whether you have 12 different pathways, say, going to the same point, we're going to reach. That's good. Not one way, twelve ways, a hundred ways, a million ways. That's what I'm saying. So I'm not negating. I'm just saying, what with all these great minds right here and people listening, each of you are going to create pathways. And if a couple of those get us to the right spot faster, great. If a couple of them take us along a journey that's very scenic, like, wonderful environment. You're sitting in the woods there. Very great. I think that each of us concentrate on our vision, our journey, and we'll come up with all kinds of unique things. And all those puzzle pieces create a quantum.

[Barry]

Wow.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Well said. And one of the reasons why I had 36 voices was because everyone manifests so differently. And there are people who are well known and people who you've never heard of. And I did that intentionally because I wanted everyone to understand that it's not just for people who are famous and people who are successful. It's for everyone. And I was blessed to meet Dr. Joe Vitale and he gave us a chapter. Gave a chapter in the book and. But there's also a woman who was 80 years old who helped heal herself from third stage breast cancer with her mind. She's all about positive mindset. And she's a jokester. And every time I get on the phone with her, she's got a really bad dad joke for me. But she does that at the hospital. She's a nurse and she does that with. She yells at nurses and doctors in the hospital. They don't have a good bedside manner. And she's really amazing that way. I have people who are animal communicators. Liz, who communicates with the plant kingdom, people who work with plant medicine to help people heal. There's so much diversity and variety, and that's why. Thank you. Because it's really important to realize that people can tap into their own abilities.

[Michael Jacob]

Dr. Kerry Maday, you had your hand up.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

Yeah. I look at it a little differently because I guess my experience is going back to as a child, not just me, but my two younger sisters, we would always say, oh, they have snake eyes. We would always point out the same person. And so now, getting a little older and years, I know those are reptilian eyes. And so we are different beings out there, and we could agree on that. So at young age, I knew we were not all the same. But I also realized that nine, I knew there are controllers and controlled. And then I'm realizing that, oh, no, I was born a slave. Not supposed to be a slave. We're not supposed to be slaves. And I didn't know what to do. But I said, when I get to be a big person, I'm going to do something about this. We're all big people now, right? Y' all can do something about it. Which is looking at it in a different way. Light that you press. Same kind of idea. So knowing that, okay, we've been oppressed and to me and enslaved. And this goes along for me the biblical writings, which I believe is true historical document. And we now are waking up to that. And then we're realizing who we are, what we are and whose we are. So when we really embrace that and become the I am the words we speak. And to me, I can't do it without the Holy Spirit, then game over. But we have to go through this in this training. We're in a training period right now, boot camp, because we've got to understand we were supposed to be the beginnings and caretakers of this planet, this realm, dimensions, realm. But it didn't happen. Right? But I believe in our lifetime, we're going to see something amazing and things off close beyond our human comprehension. Did I freeze on you?

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Just a little bit. But I think we got. We got a gift at the end.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

Sorry with that.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

No, you know what?

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

I think you got the gist. Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

And so thank you for that and also your faith. And I know, Jen, you have deep faith. Faith as well. Everyone has their own way of belief, whether it's through religion or through Christ or who, the universe, whatever you call it. But I see in Jen and Carrie especially, both of you especially, really have a deep faith. And one of the things that I see so much is the younger generation all turning to God. There's a whole movement of these kids becoming conservative, much to their parents. And it's a beautiful thing. And I'm curious if Jen or Akari, you want to talk to that or even honey about this movement. Going back to connection to source.

[Jen]

I could answer quickly because I know there's better ones probably, but I. You hit a good one. Because I have 12 grandchildren and I have. My oldest grandson is 21, and from the time he was in school over in Orlando, his team, it was a lacrosse team, they were very conservative. And he'd come and talk to me about everything because nobody else would. And they were getting Made fun of in school. He is the one I send a lot of my deep. The stuff I send to you guys. I do send information out to people, but he's the one I send it to because he's a believer very deep in private, and his younger brother is, too. And then a lot of the other ones, some of the others have not been raised that way. They've been raised to be whatever, whatever. And my faith is something that I came to, really six years ago. I've always had it, but started praying differently because I didn't understand what Carrie was explaining. Snake eyes, you get many of. I was like, white light. Everything's pretty and lovely. Until about six years ago, when I started learning about what was happening to the children in the world and people like Tom and so many people I love deeply. So I had to call a sister who's a nun and ask her, what's this about? And then she taught me from Genesis about Belle. And it's been there for 4,000 years. And then here we are praying for the light. And so it was so profound for me. And of course, that started my movement. And then I met Michael and Tracy Jo and our whole work. I'm thinking of you, Michael and Tracy Jo, as always, talking about staying in the love bubble. What did I. As a therapist, which I am, and also in seminary, I always taught you, choose the house of love over the house of fear. And if you don't, and that's in the chapter, if you don't, you're going to lose yourself. So Michael and Tracy Jo and I just went bing because they believe the same thing. And yet we are facing darkness, which I never saw, and I still don't to this day see much of it. But I want everybody to know that I'm learning at 78, 79, I'll be this year about darkness. And I got attacked this year from someone that was out of the blue, and I had to learn to forgive and try to process through because I think we. And people of the light carry. Look at her. We get hit. Because we do carry that light. And so what we have to do is not hate them or go into fear, but to love them. And that's a biggie. That's a biggie. The house of love. The Jaco love house of love. Okay,

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

that's a big one. And I have to say, when I learned to forgive, really forgive, not forgive you. Yeah, I've seen that one. Like, how's that going for, you know, the true forgiveness when you're at a Place of neutrality. And that person no longer triggers you when you've truly released. Has anyone want to talk about their experience with forgiveness and how that helps with manifestation in their life?

[Tom]

Yeah, I do.

[Joe]

I.

[Tom]

Because I'm gonna throw in the Matrix again. I'm sorry, but that actually is my baby. My baby. But here's something I want to point out to the Christian church and to Christians as I am one. But I don't broadcast it. I whisper through art. And what you're going to find is the churches preach the atheist version of the Matrix when they find out I have the copyright and I wrote it for the glory of God and to put Jesus Christ into mainstream film. Not one church has asked me to speak about the original work, even though I have the copyright. They talk about the atheist version done by those that actually bastardize it. I think that's a call to what I'm trying to layer in, which is we need to, if you're part of the Christian body, not isolate anybody out. We need to stop judging and making that we know it. Whenever I see the hint, I think in layers of any kind of arrogance. When Christianity's talked about, you're out the door as far as having an influence. You are now segmenting yourself away as somebody who is almost laughable. What we need are those that have compassion, humility, pure heart and caring and not judgment, that go forward and bring these works together and Christian messages together. Many of us are working on different ways. Some covertly, some openly, some broadcast, some do it quietly. But I want to see a body of believers that do not cast judgment on each other and lift all things that are possible. And don't confine the creativity under a dome of what you suspect is Christian and not Christian. Artwork needs to flurry. We don't need book burnings. We need to have creativity thrives. And I believe that Christ, when I wrote my work for Matrix, was encouraging that not to have it like, oh, I don't agree with this person. I don't want. I don't agree with their art. Let's free up what's possible. Let's free up what's creative. Creatively. Let's do that without judgment, without arrogance. If you have ego in Christianity, you're not a Christian. If you get rid of the ego and have compassion. You're my kind of person. I wrote for you. Sorry to be hardcore, but it's time to call it what it is. Quantum is togetherness across diversity. I celebrate not your religion, but your faith. I celebrate your ability to have Faith, that spark of faith, not your religion. Because I don't want us to divide anymore and Galileo to be in trouble for talking about the universe is. So let's just go back to embracing each other. Get rid of the arrogance. I can spot it every time. Let's free up and be actually loving to each other. Anyway, sorry to preach, but I want you to know the Matrix story was.

[Chris O'Connor]

Yeah, I concur.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Because I want to say the one theme that weaves through the entire book, 36 stories, is different versions of what you just talked about. Because in order to be a manifester, in order to be in the quantum, you have to be in that space. It's just that's how you manifest us. Chris, I'm curious what you have to say about that.

[Chris O'Connor]

I absolutely agree with Tom. There's no way to move forward until we can have conversations and love one another no matter what. Because otherwise we're victims and otherwise we are supporting those that want us separated so that we can be controlled, that none of us want that. So why don't we find a way to get along? And I think that's the key. Because ultimately for an entire race to evolve spiritually, this is what it's all about. We're here trying to evolve our eternal soul. That's why we're here. Experiences, difficulties, beauty, it all helps evolve our soul through experience. And if we can't love someone else, even though their experience might be quite different, if we can't do that, we're the problem. And we just need to understand, that's all. It's just, it's a self reflective thing. I spent many years looking really deeply inwardly and what, what am I doing to support the good and the bad, the positive, the negative, the silver service to self, the service to others, what am I doing to support either one? And when you think in that way, then you begin to change your perspectives.

[Tom]

I think that's so beautiful. I just want to add one last thing. Once I think I'm better than someone else, I'm less than all.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

So I have a question on this. And this goes. So in order to love everyone, that means the people who aren't awake, the people who trigger you in the worst way. If we're not just loving people who are just like us, right? And so that is the challenge. And that's where we're headed. And that's where Chris talks about. When you see these other races who have accomplished them and are in the state and they look at us, we look like barbarians to them. Correct.

[Chris O'Connor]

Yes.

[Honey]

I think we look like that to us too. Us to. It's crazy what humans do to each other.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Come on, let's.

[Chris O'Connor]

And these other races cannot. They understand the progression and evolution of our race. But they don't think that we should really be working with a lot of other races right now because they don't think that we really earned it because we are so we're still killing each other. And they're like, why?

[Honey]

Why?

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

Protecting our aggressions out on the wrong people ourselves. What it should be. It's a spiritual warfare. There is a place, time and place for righteous anger and to stand our ground and to go take the. I still. That's how I view that might be more primitive than the rest of you, but take that spiritual battle and know how to use the weapons of war, which is our words, and know that we have the truth and a true love. And you do it either lay down your life or another. That's that agape love. It's a power comes from us, from our heart, physically. But even in etheric energy and the spirit realm, soul realm. So I. I still have that warrior mentality, but it might be on a little more primitive level than you guys, but that's how I look at it.

[Chris O'Connor]

I don't see us beyond that mindset.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Chris O'Connor]

You know, we all have our different journey.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

Yeah. We all have different viewpoints, which is great. I know. I do spiritual warfare. And it's. It works because if we've been given power, authority and dominion here in this realm, for me as a Christian through Savior, I know I don't need to be afraid of anything out there. That's not like me, not of love. That's hurting humanity. So I use my weapons of warfare to get to the spiritual realm. So that's not necessarily that I'm going kicking butt. Physically you're on.

[Chris O'Connor]

But spiritually it's the same thing.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

Yeah. Yes, I know.

[Chris O'Connor]

One of the things that I do personally for people on an individual level is to free them from negative attachments. And I remember and I've learned and I have 100% success rate that it's only ever done in love. It isn't done in judgment. Because you walk into a room and you flip on a dark room and you flip on a light switch. There's no darkness can be there. But if you go in there, you scream in the dark and you accuse, you're part of it. Well, if you go in there, see,

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

the flesh is the problem. It's the spirits that can work through us. I see it that way.

[Chris O'Connor]

Yeah.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

So it's addressing the spiritual realm. Yeah.

[Chris O'Connor]

None of it's disconnected. Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Penny, you were going to say something.

[Barry]

Yeah. So when you think about loving someone else, no matter what they're doing, remember that we are all cells in the body of God. So everybody's a cell in the body of God. So you get really mad at another cell, or you just say.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

You go, do you.

[Barry]

I'm not going to participate, and I'm going to go ahead and do what I'm supposed to be doing. And I think when we remember it that way, it's so much easier than thinking we have to fight against. Because a lot of times we're fighting against ourselves because there's so many shadows that have been parts of us, other lifetimes, other experiences, and they come after us because they want attention. But when I look at things, I see things from the soul perspective. So I don't care whether you're an npc, a hologram, whether you're. Whatever you are. You're all a piece of consciousness. Everybody's a piece of consciousness. And you wouldn't be visible if you didn't have something. And so just to let them do what they're doing now, if they're attacking you, you just say no and you cut it off. But you don't have to hate them because of it.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

I agree.

[Barry]

Because they're a part of us.

[Chris O'Connor]

And then if somebody's being abused, you go protect that person. Right?

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah, true.

[Chris O'Connor]

Because that's the beauty of life.

[Tom]

The beauty of art, too, is it allows us a mindset where we can change the landscape, where we will then conceptualize that we are writing a piece for all humanity, good and bad. We're writing or sculpting for all humanity. It's easier for us, an artist, to visualize that I'm doing this as a service to humanity without judgment cast on anyone. And so you take it from a personal level and you take it into a universal level where it's no longer. It's not going to be an affront to me if people react a certain way. All I'm doing is presenting something as a service, and they can take it or leave it. I'm not going to lose skin over it, but I'm going to be able to feel good about that development myself, where I was able to go through that journey of creating something out of love. Like you were saying, Chris, something out of love. So we can do it through art. So I have an advantage. Other artists like myself, where we have A very sweet path where we can enact the desire to see all humanity as worthy of service, as valuable through art.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

And that's it. Yeah. One of the things that I think is really important for people to understand is that we're not here to spiritually bypass. If you've been hurt, it's not about projecting your hatred out on someone else. You. You feel it, and you need to process it and let it go. Because when you don't, address stays in your physical form. And it can help, it will help. It will cause you to project that pain onto others. And that's where violence and anger come in. When you have all this unresolved pain and we talk about the love bubble and loving one another. Part of the love is loving yourself and releasing yourself from that chain. Yep. And then once you do that. So the forgiveness is releasing yourself and then allowing yourself to move on. Yes.

[Barry]

So just really quick, like Carrie was saying, you're allowed to say no to someone. You're allowed to state your opinion. You're allowed to be sovereign. You're allowed to basically be extremely strong within yourself. Don't forget those things, but don't carry any hate along with it. There's so much jealousy and so much drama coming up right now. There's so many tech scams and weird things that are happening in the collective at the moment, and it's part of those 3D programs being ripped away right now. So do your best not to engage with them. Don't let them hang on to you. Just say, I see what you're doing, and I'm not going to do it with you.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

And the media is also quantum. There's a form of it that. That is giving us messages at a quantum level that it's reaching our unconscious. And so it's really important to be careful what you're watching. And I know as podcaster, and there are podcasters here, you have to be aware of what's going on. But when you flood yourself with anger and fear and all the negative emotions, it's going to impact the way you see the world and lower your frequency, your vibration.

[Tom]

I was going to add something to Lisa. The quiet calm that certain individuals have speaks louder than the voices we all have. And I'm thinking of Michael right now. Like Michael and Tracy, Joe, Michael. I'd love to hear you talk because you've been so quiet, and I see this presence, this calm, focused, quiet. Love doing your shows, because I just always see it like a. So I'd love to know what your some of your thoughts are. Because I think that ability to be silent, discussions are going on and people are going on is just real power. That's something that speaks louder than words from anybody. So I'd love to hear some more thoughts from Mike.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Thank you.

[Michael Jacob]

So talk about how on the physical realm, I was doing amazing things. But the real amazing thing happened when I went into the quantum realm, where I was using my thoughts to basically come into an area that was full of violence. And I would fill it with a love bubble. And the love bubble would basically calm. Everything would. All the violence would stop. It was, like, magical. It was amazing. Now, how did I get there? We're talking about how we're getting rid of all the anger and stuff. I had long. I think I had years of Archangel Michael coming in and cutting cords all around me. I'd think of something. I was like, bring ar Angel Michael in and cut the angry chords and so forth. Took a long time. And then I learned to send love to everyone that I saw and those that had done me wrong. And I just kept doing that. For years I did this. And then eventually I got to the point where here I am in a combat zone, and I've talked about the Archangel Michael experience I had, because I went against a very dark entity. Going against it, like, with. I was going to fight it. That's anger. That's all the stuff that you can't be there and be in the love at the same time. It chased me back to my body. And then later the next night, I was blown up. So I got to see what that anger could be like. And I've talked about how I've had a lot of friends that had that anger, and they're no longer with us because they've died in combat. So I died in combat because I had that anger. But Archangel Michael let me come back because I was like, oh, it helps humanity. And then I get this pre. Had this presence feeling looked up. There's Archangel Michael sends love into every cell of my body. And then from that point on, I started radiating that love. And that love stopped the violence, so the violence can't exist within that love vibrational field.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

And you know what? Thank you for sharing that. And I think about Tommy. Talk about art and Barry. One of the things that that art does is crack open our hearts. And I remember during COVID Barry did something in the community about this. She called it the Awakening Love project. If you want to talk about that and how you saw the world, because I'm telling you, I Could stand next to her and take the same photo, and they don't look anything alike. And it's because your art captures a piece of your soul, and that's what you're projecting. And I'll stand next to her and she's, oh, look at those trees. And we'll both take that photo. And I'm like, look at your sister. It's better than mine.

[Honey]

It's the same thing in. When you teach or like the watercolor class that I was just talking to you all about. Everybody looks at it differently. And that's what's so unique about each one of us, is that we're each these beautiful selves and be vessels that create within our own creation.

[Jen]

We make.

[Honey]

Art is really the true currency. And I don't like to use the word the money currency, but the real currency of our whole being. And yeah, during. During COVID Yeah, I. Yeah, I was like, what is going on? And everyone was doing these. All these portraits on front porch. Portraits. I don't know if you all had that, but they. Photographers were going around and photographing everybody. I'm going to get in the sun while I talk. Everyone was going and taking photos of everybody on their front porch with their family. The photographer was. And they all had their masks on the family. And I'm like, I am not doing that.

[Barry]

There is no way.

[Honey]

So I took my dog and we went for walks, and I have my camera and my mountain bike and my dog, and off we went. And I would just go for walks and take these photos of the community, of everybody. That was sad, but tell you the truth, I was like, wow, what an eye opener this is. And plus, I got to hang out with Lisa. Lisa during that. And we became good friends through this. And anyway, so what I would do is I go for walks, take photos of everybody's dogs, and then I would go print them. I had big printers. And then I would go and hang them around town because the town was barren. And I would just make these galleries around town with the photos, the big photos on the walls. And then I told everybody to just go and pick them up. That was the way I gave back. And it was a real inward and journey, inward and upward journey for me and really woke me up to a lot of things that. Because I didn't understand all that we are going through now of what I understand. But boy, yeah, I had studied a lot of this, 15, 20 years, but I had no idea it was so incredibly deep. And so just keep doing art. That's what I Would recommend. And. Yeah, give back to yourself and make sure you take good care of yourself. Be quiet.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah, that's something she does really well. And I don't do all of it all.

[Honey]

I like the. I'm really gregarious and out there because of the way what I do for a living. But I'm also really like my quiet time. It's very important to me and it really gives me the time to bring in all of my creations and just really be present.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah. So, Jo, you have any thoughts?

[Joe]

The first thought is that I think Chris and Tom remind me like they're brothers or something. And I can see them working on an amazing project at some point. I really can. I'm just watching them and how they carry themselves and the inner child that they have in each of them. And they're just amazing guys. That's the first thing I wanted to say.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

But as a musician, though, and how your music is such a huge part of who you are and how you express just like art. And we've got writers here, we've got artists, we've got a musician here. If you think about why has this. Have the schools suppressed all of these things? They take art and music and all this creativity out of the schools. How important these things are to all of us.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's a great point. I found. It's interesting you say that because my. I said. I had a conversation with my father before he passed, and he said, why didn't you tell me that you were into music and acting and all this stuff when you were younger? I'm like, dad, I didn't know. I found it more in my music. I found more in 1920. And then I didn't get into acting really. I auditioned for a Sea Galley commercial and I was missing a tooth as a child, so I missed that because I was. I didn't have a tooth. They probably wanted a full smile, but I just. I grew up in Catholic Jesuit education and it was very focused on those people that were going to be doctors or lawyers or what have you, and I never really fit into that. And, yeah, it's really been great to watch my nieces and nephews get involved in music more over. Over the years. But, yeah, I don't know, especially in the. In my upbringing, it just didn't seem like something that if you can't really make a living at it, then it didn't feel like it was all that supported, if that makes sense. And it's interesting in the songs I've done, in fact, from you doing your book? I'm now going to put a short film together of the five music videos that. That I've done over the last five years and kind of narrate that. But it's this movement that's really got me back into it in some ways, because I just felt. And I've been. You feel this off and on, but when the people you look up to are in their 20s or 30s and they're successful, and then you're a decade or two past that, you kind of start going, I don't really know who my role models are anymore or people I've looked up to. They're part of the cabal. And so it's. I've been a holding pattern in some ways, and I'll just lay it out there for you guys. Between the censorship, between Lewis herms getting only 20, 100 votes in California, and the health problems I've had with my producer that he's had, I just feel like there's been so many obstacles lately that I just need to allow this a little bit more up to the divine timing because you can't force this stuff. And so it's great they actually brought that up because even now I'm in this. I don't play a lot live. And that's the whole reason I got into music in the first place. And with AI coming out, and I'd love to hear Tom's take on this with AI coming out.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Joe]

There's certain things about it that I think are beneficial for people, but when nearly every podcaster has an AI song with AI music video, it's just. It's a weird place to be in right now. So that's where I'm at currently. But I'm. I am going to finish this song at some point this year, and it's about the children, and I'm excited about it. So that's where I'm at currently.

[Honey]

Just keep believing in what you do, Joe. Just keep believing. Because, Quantum, it doesn't matter about all that. Just do your. Go with it, flow with it. You're so talented.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah.

[Honey]

Yeah. Follow your heart and just find a hero. Don't listen to all that.

[Jen]

No.

[Honey]

Yeah.

[Chris O'Connor]

This is your greatest. You.

[Honey]

You're the.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

When I was 15, I went to a summer program at Rhode Island School of Design, which is one of the top art schools in the country, the world. And towards the end of it, the dean came in and sat me down in her office and said, you're in when you apply. It's just a formality we want you as a student. Student here. It was the first time because I had learning disabilities that I was like, I'm good, I'm good at something. Someone saw something in me because I didn't see it. I was so broken as a child, I didn't see it. And I allowed that part of me to be crushed because after that my parents were so worried that I'd be a poor starving artist. And like Barry who said, show me, I'll show you. My parents were like, we don't want to support you the rest of your life and we don't want you to marry a poor star reviewing artist and have to support both of you for the rest of your. So that was just not allowed. And I didn't have that voice. It wasn't until I had a breakdown later on in life. So you don't necessarily have to know who you are. If my 63 year old self now could go back and talk to that 15 year old and said, you've written books, you've traveled the world, you've done all of these things, you raised two amazing children. If I could tell that little guru of my accomplishments, I wouldn't have believed it. I would have been just stunned. And I think part of this is when you heal that little girl or little boy inside of you and allow whatever comes out. And you don't have to become a world famous musician, you don't have to become a world famous artist. Joe, your music touches me in such ways. I've cried listening to some of your songs. And your song Freedom now is such an amazing anthem for what we have been going through. And there's an energy and a vibration that comes through your music that touches the hearts of people and it doesn't matter if it reaches the top 100 chart. To me, people that get influenced by your music get touched by your music and you make them feel better.

[Joe]

Thank you. Yeah, that is the goal, to feel something. And yeah, you're right about that. It's, it's, it's great, it's inspiring because sometimes we all got to recharge the batteries and help each other without some. Because sometimes it is it when you're alone. It can be a gift and it can be isolating. But I think I thrive. Part of my personality is thriving in community and working with people and I think that's the part for me that's been challenging at times because I really do enjoy working with people and bouncing ideas off. Off of others. So yeah, no, this is great food for thought. So thanks.

[Honey]

Yeah, I could have done the same thing with digital photography back in 1997, when I start. Started digital, where I was analog 25 years prior. You just gotta roll. The way I see it, you have to roll with it and just follow your path and just believe in what. Who you are. Because you're so fabulous.

[Barry]

Yes, you are.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah. Go ahead, Jen.

[Jen]

What's coming to me through all? I'm loving the stories, and I'm thinking about. Each of us has had whatever happened in our childhood that brought us to wherever we are. And probably most of us have been rejected at one time or the other. My energy was so crazy that people rejected me a lot, but I kept coming to the top of the surface and using humor to get there. But I was remembering. I was walking. I was a protester, and I was walking, protesting the Seabrook nuclear power plant. Okay. But anyway, I was walking with this guy, Philip Kenney. Monsignor Philip Kenney from. I was in New Hampshire, and I had my four children. We'd already been protesting. We climbed over fences. It was crazy. But they had a great life because I got to learn all this stuff. Anyway, I'm walking along and I'm telling him I'm at divinity school and I'm doing this and that, and he stopped me. This is Phil Kennedy, and I'm not Catholic, by the way. I'm Episcopalian. So this is Monsignor. He said, jennifer, I need to ask you something. I said, what? And I thought, oh, God, what did I do? Because I was just on and on excited about the kids in seminary. He stopped me and he said, did you know that enthusiasm is a grace from God and you have it abundantly? And I went, honest. I went, oh, my God. I settled on my worst problem. I always thought it was my fault. That changed me forever. Of course, I went home and called mother and talked to her. But I used that in therapy with all these kids. I was working with a lot of these kids until two years ago that were ADHD or whatever they were. Oh, bring them to me. Autistic. Okay, bring them to me. And I'd say the same thing to them because I'd say, are you having mystical experiences? And they'd say, yeah, I've been traveling out of space. Oh, good, we can talk. I'm a believer. And so I was able to then tell them that story about the enthusiasm.

[Chris O'Connor]

And.

[Jen]

And I want to say that each of you has people that have come to you, I'm sure of it, that are angels. And that guy was but that are angels that have woken you up. So actually I'm not worried at all. I think the quantum is the people that are the angels that come out of the woodwork and wake us up. And boy, have I met a lot of them over the years. There's some of you. So that's what I have to say.

[Michael Jacob]

That's great. Everyone here is an angel to me.

[Jen]

Thank you.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah, I feel the same. I, you know, I wish I could have all 36 authors on, but

[Jen]

I'll come fly with you over there.

[Honey]

Please do come fly with me.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

I wish I could have all 36 authors on at once. But one of the things that's coming up is we're doing a big author event for this. We are Quantum. And it's on June 16th. And if you go on the website under books, you'll see we are Quantum. And so you click on the author's event. We have 194 people signed up already. I had to upgrade my Zoom account.

[Joe]

Good.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

I'm so excited. So this is an opportunity to meet and have a Q and A with some of the authors. It's going to be like I've got over 20 of the authors showing so far. People still have to register. And then for people who are overseas in Europe, my friend Renata, she lives between Australia and the Czech Republic and we're doing one at 6:00am Eastern time, which is 11 or 12 in Europe. And I think Abby Wynn is in Ireland. And then I have a friend Solveig who's in the. In the book, she's in Sweden. And my friend Wendy, who is going to be flying out to Sweden that morning. So she'll be on at 6am as well. So if you're overseas, you can get into one of these. So that's going to be. There's two that day. And I'm really excited because my goal is again, if there's one person here, you read one person's story and that impacts you to really go deep. And also on that platform form, I've interviewed just about everyone. There's one more person don't get to get her up. And I have. Chris's video isn't up yet. It's gotta be on the. Through my web designer center, everything. But there's a couple people who aren't fully up yet, but they will be. You'll be able to see them on my YouTube channel. They're also posted there. Dr. Northrup unfortunately couldn't make it tonight.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

She.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

She had a death in the family. She wrote the Forward. And his been an amazing support to me. She endorsed my first book in Every Belief is a Lie, and she wrote the. The Forward. And I have quite an amazing video interview with her that'll be up hopefully early this week as well. But really amazing people, very diverse group and a lot of really cool stories. And I was glad to get Kevin hoyded before he had to skedaddle. But really amazing people here, and so are you, Emily.

[Honey]

Thank you for all you've done.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

It's been a true labor of love. And of course, after writing. Writing my first book, I'm like, oh, a collaborative book. That'll be easy.

[Honey]

You did it.

[Barry]

Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

But over a year later, it's been such a beautiful lesson for me. And working with the individual people and getting the stories in and seeing how diverse. And the biggest challenge was really what order to put them in, because to weave a whole story of getting everyone's messages out so they made sense, not just to throw stuff together. So that's been challenging. And I love my friends Joelle and Dana Montreal. They did the web design, and they've really done. And the book, the book cover, they did an amazing job. I'm so thrilled with how it turned out.

[Tom]

Right? Yeah.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah. What amazing collaboration with all those authors. Wow. Yeah, absolutely. I never seen anything like it.

[Dr. Kerry Maday]

Yeah.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

I finally had to stop, and now and I keep going. I want that person and another person in. I'm like, I'm not gonna have to do a part.

[Joe]

Yeah, probably.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

And, you know, it might be everyone in the world, because everyone is quantum. Everyone.

[Honey]

There's something to that.

[Jen]

Chicken Soup for the Soul. You have to have a whole series.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah. That would be amazing. That would be Michael, thank you so much for having us all on. I so appreciate that.

[Michael Jacob]

Yeah, it was Great. Great audience. YouTube loved it. And, you know, we'll share it everywhere. We'll share with you guys, share all your sites. So it's gonna be amazing. Amazing information, amazing stories, and highly like you saw on Lisa's site where it says live video. Each one of the authors. She's gonna put a couple more on there. She's talking about. But everyone has their own video. You can go in there. Jen was telling me how she was going. I'm gonna go through every one of

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

them, take a little bit, but Chris is enough yet. I'm like, I know they're taking the weekend off.

[Barry]

They'll get it up, I promise.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

So his is up on my. Please go to my YouTube channel. I've been trying to grow them. Not all of the them are. Some of them are private. You can get them through the website, but you can also. Chris is live. Chris's is live. And so is Dr. Northrup's. On my website, on my YouTube channel. Lisa Shawn. So you'll be able to see those there.

[Michael Jacob]

So you're. What's your YouTube?

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

It's Lisa Schermerhorn. Coaching. I think it's coaching, but Lisa Schermerhorn. If you figure out.

[Barry]

Spell my last name.

[Honey]

How to spell.

[Barry]

I changed my website to Lisa mindset

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

anymore.

[Barry]

Took me a long time to spell it right.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Oh, like it took me.

[Tom]

Same here.

[Joe]

Even Lisa's still trying to figure out how to spell.

[Barry]

I know, I know.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

When I got divorced, I had the opportunity to go back to my maid name. I'm like, I've been this name for 30 years. No one knows me. I think I'm stuck with it.

[Michael Jacob]

I remember when we first started doing shows together. And you're like, shermer.

[Chris O'Connor]

Don't forget to say,

[Honey]

and there's a railway. They're part of. New York has Shimmerhorn.

[Barry]

Go ahead, Lis.

[Honey]

Yeah, there's.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

In Brooklyn. There's actually a subway station that's Shermerhorn.

[Barry]

Hoyt.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yeah, it's Schermerhorn is actually. Yeah, we didn't come from the wealthy family. They were the poor dirt farmers in upstate New York.

[Honey]

But no, you did. You were way wealthier. You were way.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Well, no, in my heart.

[Honey]

Yeah, because you were in the dirt.

[Lisa Schermerhorn]

Yes, you were with the earth.

[Michael Jacob]

All right, everyone, that's fabulous. Thanks everybody that joined us. Thanks for all the authors here, that great presentation. Everybody gives some great insights. So thank you so much.

[Honey]

Thank you, Michael and Tracy. Thank you, Michael, Lisa, thank you, guys.

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