🎙 PORTRAIT OF A LEARNER | Stop Winning the Wrong Game

Guest: Rody Boonchouy + Travis Allen

Host: Arvin Ross + Dr. Michelle Ament

Presented by: The Human Intelligence Movement

🔍Episode Summary:

The educators who designed our schools were the best students. That might be the exact problem.Rody Boonchouy, Superintendent of Winters Joint Unified School District, raised a question at his board retreat: How have we progressed over the last 23 years? He pulled every data point he could find. Almost nothing had changed — 2% improvement in ELA across two decades of effort, initiative after initiative, leader after leader. His conclusion: the system is perfectly designed to produce the results it gets. This final episode brings together Rody, Travis Allen, Co-President of the Human Intelligence Movement and CEO of ProSolve, and Roman Stearns of Scaling Student Success for the most confrontational conversation in this series. They name the race for human relevancy that we are quietly losing, why 60% of employers report letting go of recent graduates for lacking basic entry-level skills, and what it actually takes to stop optimizing a game that was never built for today's world.

Portrait of a Learner is a special 4-part series from Unscripted Intelligence and Scaling Student Success, spotlighting California superintendents leading the shift to whole-child education.

🎙️About the Hosts:Michelle Ament and Arvin Ross come from different generations, experiences, and disciplines—but their unlikely partnership is built on mutual curiosity, deep listening, and a shared belief in the power of human connection. Their conversations are real, unscripted, and often challenging—in all the right ways.

Dr. Michelle Ament Co-President of the Human Intelligence Movement & Chief Academic Officer at ProSolve.

Arvin Ross Co-Founder of ProSovle, educator, speaker, and adaptability enthusiast.

Jena Crossland ⁠ Production Manager for Unscripted Intelligence and Director of Operations + Marketing for the Human Intelligence Movement.

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