🎙️ Uniquely Human - Episode 7

Guest: Dr. Mark Zeiler, Casey Watts, and Dr. De'Shawn Washington

Host: Arvin Ross + Dr. Michelle Ament

Presented by: The Human Intelligence Movement

🔍Episode Summary:

"Human-centered" is everywhere right now.

We're in the Intelligence Age, and the language of leadership is inflating faster than the practice is catching up. A chatbot can say "I hear you" with more warmth than some bosses. Leaders are claiming to be human-centered, while the humans around them quietly check out.

This week on Unscripted Intelligence, we're going to spot the real ones.

Arvin and Michelle sit down with three leaders who are living this every day. Dr. Mark Zeiler, Casey Watts, and Dr. De'Shawn Washington.

An unscripted conversation about what human-centered leadership actually looks like when nobody's watching, and how to tell the difference between the leaders who say it and the ones who live it.

🎙️About the Hosts:

Michelle Ament and Arvin Ross come from different generations, experiences, and disciplines—but their unlikely partnership is built on mutual curiosity, deep listening, and a shared belief in the power of human connection. Their conversations are real, unscripted, and often challenging—in all the right ways.

Dr. Michelle Ament Co-President of the Human Intelligence Movement & Chief Academic Officer at ProSolve.

Arvin Ross Co-Founder of ProSovle, educator, speaker, and adaptability enthusiast.

Jena Crossland ⁠ Production Manager for Unscripted Intelligence and Director of Operations + Marketing for the Human Intelligence Movement.

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