180 - Hollywood Ruins Joker & Rings Of Power ft. Nerdrotic | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 180

Summary

Unsubscribe Podcast Episode 180: "Hollywood Ruins Joker & Rings Of Power ft. Nerdrotic"

Release Date: October 7, 2024
Host/Authors: Eli Doubletap, Brandon Herrera, Donut Operator & Nerdrotic

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I. Introduction & Announcements

The episode kicks off with enthusiastic announcements about the Unsubscribe Podcast's upcoming live tour. Eli Doubletap shares the exciting news that tickets will go live on October 11th (a Friday), with dates scheduled in cities including Nashville, San Diego, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston, and Buffalo.

Donut Operator highlights the team lineup for the tour:

Donut Operator [00:28]: "Double Tap is going to be there. Fat Electrician is going to be there. Mr. Ang Cops, Brandon Herrera and myself, Donut Operator, we're all gonna be there. It's fucking awesome."

Nerdrotic adds his own flair to the announcement:

Nerdrotic [00:45]: "Gonna give you guys a presale."

II. Hollywood's Decline and DEI Influence

The hosts delve into a critical discussion about the current state of Hollywood, particularly focusing on how Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives have impacted film quality and storytelling.

A. Critique of "Joker 2"

Nerdrotic opens the conversation by expressing disappointment with Warner Brothers' release strategy for Joker 2, which he perceives as a failure despite its high budget.

Nerdrotic [05:50]: "I almost tossed my Steelbook Blu Ray in the trash. I'm like, I'm never watching this movie again."

Brandon Herrera concurs, noting the film's poor reception on platforms like IMDb:

Brandon Herrera [07:35]: "I just saw on IMDb it was at like a 5.9 and falling."

B. Analysis of "Rings of Power" and "The Acolyte"

The conversation shifts to Amazon's Rings of Power and its sequel The Acolyte. Nerdrotic criticizes the significant financial investment (~$1 billion) juxtaposed with the show's underwhelming performance and deviation from Tolkien's original lore.

Nerdrotic [15:05]: "A billion dollars. Billion dollars. [...] It's their worst episode."

Eli Doubletap highlights how Rings of Power struggled with fan expectations and authentic representation:

Nerdrotic [16:30]: "Galadriel making out with Elrond, her future son-in-law. [...] It's fucking ridiculous."

The hosts argue that DEI-driven choices led to unnatural plot developments and characterizations that alienated the core fanbase.

III. Representation in Marvel Cinematic Universe

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to critiquing Marvel's approach to character representation, specifically focusing on Captain America, Falcon, and Doctor Doom.

A. Succession from Captain America to Falcon

Nerdrotic laments the transition from Bucky Barnes to Sam Wilson (Falcon) as Captain America, suggesting it’s a superficial attempt at diversity without genuine character development.

Nerdrotic [32:43]: "You're giving basically the black person, the white person's hand me downs."

Brandon Herrera echoes the sentiment, accusing Marvel of marketing decisions over storytelling:

Brandon Herrera [41:08]: "They were just automatically deleting certain keywords. So they're just rolling into it and we're clapping back at the face."

B. Casting of Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards

The hosts express concern over casting choices that prioritize diversity optics over character authenticity. Eli Doubletap questions the rationale behind casting Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards, labeling it as an example of Hollywood's misguided diversity efforts.

Eli Double Tap [34:30]: "You're white passing, Eli."

IV. YouTube Algorithms and Content Censorship

The discussion pivots to the challenges creators face with YouTube's evolving algorithms and censorship policies.

A. Demonization and Age Restrictions

Brandon Herrera shares frustrations about YouTube's inconsistent enforcement of rules, leading to demonetization and age restrictions that cripple content creators' revenues.

Brandon Herrera [37:02]: "The one of my favorites that I've ever figured out [...] I flat out ran with Fleshlight and it stayed monetized for a few weeks."

Nerdrotic emphasizes the arbitrary nature of these restrictions:

Nerdrotic [41:10]: "No age restricted video shows up unless you're logged in. [...] Age restrictions."

B. Impact on Content Creation

The hosts discuss how these policies stifle creativity and limit the reach of genuine content, pushing creators to seek alternative platforms like Pepperbox.

Brandon Herrera [43:00]: "It’s getting worse because YouTube is killing demonetization."

V. Personal Anecdotes and Interactions

Throughout the episode, the hosts share personal stories and humorous interactions, such as Eli Doubletap's Photoshop prank on a friend's photo and their collective experiences navigating YouTube's backend.

Eli Double Tap [116:25]: "If you ever want to know how much backend goes into YouTube videos it is a lot more than your average person."

VI. Conclusion and Future Projects

As the episode nears its end, the hosts briefly touch upon their upcoming projects, including new podcast collaborations and continued critiques of mainstream media.

Nerdrotic [118:48]: "The next project is getting through the Rings of Power, and then it's kind of quiet for the rest of the year."

They reiterate their commitment to providing honest and unfiltered content, encouraging listeners to support them through alternative platforms.

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Notable Quotes:

• Nerdrotic [05:50]: "I almost tossed my Steelbook Blu Ray in the trash. I'm like, I'm never watching this movie again."
• Donut Operator [00:28]: "Double Tap is going to be there. Fat Electrician is going to be there. Mr. Ang Cops, Brandon Herrera and myself, Donut Operator, we're all gonna be there. It's fucking awesome."
• Brandon Herrera [37:02]: "The one of my favorites that I've ever figured out [...] I flat out ran with Fleshlight and it stayed monetized for a few weeks."
• Nerdrotic [34:30]: "You're white passing, Eli."

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This episode of the Unsubscribe Podcast offers a scathing critique of contemporary Hollywood's direction, emphasizing the detrimental effects of tokenism and politically driven storytelling. The hosts passionately defend authentic storytelling and express their frustrations with digital platform censorship, all while maintaining their signature candid and humorous banter.

Transcript

[Nerdrotic]

Their morals are so upside down, they don't know good for bad anymore.

[Donut Operator]

What was the budget?

[Nerdrotic]

A billion dollars.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wait, what's white passing?

[Brandon Herrera]

You're white passing, Eli.

[Nerdrotic]

Wow. I don't like the Jews. Holy.

[Eli Double Tap]

I didn't know that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Speaking of which, what do you think about the Israel situation right now?

[Eli Double Tap]

Son of.

[Nerdrotic]

I am not even start right now. Hey, guys.

[Eli Double Tap]

We are announcing, officially announcing the dates to buy live show tickets.

[Brandon Herrera]

Unsubscribe is going back on tour.

[Eli Double Tap]

Eli.

[Donut Operator]

Double Tap is going to be there. Fat electrician is going to be there. Mr. Ang Cops, Brandon Herrera and myself, Donut Operator, we're all gonna be there. It's fucking awesome.

[Brandon Herrera]

Tickets go live on the 11th of this month.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's Friday.

[Nerdrotic]

That is Friday. If you don't buy one, you're fucking lame.

[Eli Double Tap]

If you're on Pepperbox or Patreon, we're.

[Nerdrotic]

Gonna give you guys a pre sale.

[Brandon Herrera]

Code on Wednesday earlier than everybody else.

[Donut Operator]

We're gonna be in Nashville. November 14th.

[Brandon Herrera]

Norfolk. Not Norfolk. We fucking read the comments. November 15th, San Diego.

[Nerdrotic]

On November 16th, November 17th at the Granada Theater in Dallas. December 4th in Atlanta, Georgia.

[Donut Operator]

We're gonna be in Boston, Dec. And.

[Brandon Herrera]

December 6th in Buffalo, New York.

[Nerdrotic]

That's my hometown. I'm going to ticket all the parked cars.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hope to see you guys there again. Tickets go sell. Friday the 11th. And we are super excited to hang out with everyone out there. Thank you guys so fucking much.

[Nerdrotic]

Look out for the DWI checkpoint.

[Eli Double Tap]

You want to pop that top? Ready? Three, two, one. Oh, yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, mine spluged. That happens. I do leak sometimes.

[Eli Double Tap]

I do that all the time.

[Brandon Herrera]

Common problem. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Nerdrotic]

One of us.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's why Salve so disappointed. Every time I kissed you, you're just so.

[Brandon Herrera]

You're just so pretty.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'll get over it, babe. Just give me time.

[Brandon Herrera]

Just do 10 minutes in a Gatorade.

[Eli Double Tap]

Cody, you ready?

[Nerdrotic]

I need electrolytes.

[Donut Operator]

Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by eli double tap, Mr. Nerd Roddick. Hello, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut operator. And we're gonna talk about how much we love Disney.

[Nerdrotic]

They're great.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then, oh, Chase now put his face with like a Disney Hitler.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

He'S the new Snow White.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, that's right.

[Brandon Herrera]

You just got to include the. The bit from Family Guy. Just don't ride the train ride.

[Nerdrotic]

Well, we're in a world now. Like, I wouldn't be Snow White if I was white. But since I'm a dude, I can now be Snow White. As long as I don't identify as a dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

So we live in brave new world for white men.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's a scary world for white dude. It's been. It's been a while. Your last episode fucking killed. You're like, we had you at 900,000. You're at 1.11. You're about to hit 1.2.

[Nerdrotic]

Yep.

[Eli Double Tap]

You fucking hell in the game. Doing all right.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hell yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

Thanks to you guys.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, not.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's all thanks to shitty cinema.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. Thanks to Hollywood and the access media for creating this giant void in truth and authenticity that where an idiot like me can have a show with a million subscribers, which is insane. Like, it hasn't even really set in yet.

[Eli Double Tap]

So you're killing it. You're literally slaying, watching your numbers, especially during this. And then you're very big on you, like, yo, this is dope. Because of them.

[Nerdrotic]

You were. So the reason the little sphere we're in, this little corner of YouTube exists is because, well, you know us nerds, we would go to those stupid nerd websites like CBR and Bleeding Cool for comic books or Screen Rant and like, we get legit news at one point, like years ago. But then 2016 happened and like Hollywood completely changed overnight. And all of a sudden, like the colliders of the world, which is on YouTube, just got overtly political and then started attacking fans. And once you started attacking fans, they were done. They just didn't know it. That they still don't know it at some point.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

And the fans.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's not good because you hate women. Not because it's not good, but because you hate X group.

[Eli Double Tap]

Tell the fans what they are doing wrong. That that always.

[Nerdrotic]

Fuck you all works every time. And they move the goalposts. Right. First you didn't understand it. Right. First you don't understand it. Like, the new one is media illiteracy. Like, you don't understand how good the Last Jedi was. No, we understand that it sucked. And then it was. Star wars was always political, it was always woke, which it wasn't. And now it's just like, well, you're just a bigot, you know? And it just rotates through those cycle. It's a cycle of retardation that we have to deal with all the time.

[Brandon Herrera]

I love the coping phase. You missed the last part, the cope phase, where it's. The Marvels did terrible in the box office.

[Donut Operator]

Why?

[Brandon Herrera]

That's a good thing.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Those articles are my favorite.

[Nerdrotic]

And it's a Good thing is my favorite and I love flipping all using the. Their language against them is. Is brilliant. Like the latest one right now is. Is with Joker 2, which we're going to talk about. But the Brandon actually.

[Eli Double Tap]

So I did not know this. Brandon brought it up before you got there at breakfast this morning. He was like I got questions like pertaining to the Joker too. I didn't know it was out already.

[Brandon Herrera]

Me either.

[Eli Double Tap]

And he was like showing the.

[Nerdrotic]

There's a fan screening that was Monday at time of recording. So they actually. And I like. But Warner Brothers does this. They. They do fan screenings before media screening so the fans can buy tickets to go see imax. Unfortunately they released the movie and it sucked. But the.

[Brandon Herrera]

Unfortunately they released the movie.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes, if they. If they had not released it, it would have been better. But you know, the people who did have access and reviews. What we're hearing from like the Hollywood reporters is oh, this was a troll of the fans. Like it was the troll of the incels. And I don't know if you guys remember five years ago when the Joker came out, there was a bunch of media leading up to it saying, oh, that's going to cause incel violence to the point where there were metal detectors. Yeah, there were metal detectors. And what's funny is like I saw it in New York at the time and I walked through a metal detector. What was funny is the actual violence that happened during that time was in a Frozen 2 movie where so. So cause any incel violence at all. So it. And it. And you want to talk about media literacy, if you watch the movie, it's not about incels at all. And an argument can be made. It was like pre. Remember this came out a few months before the Summer of Love. So there's even some antifa elements in it. Right. It's not everything I agree with politically, but it's a good movie. What's funny is five months later there was actual violence that the media was calling mostly peaceful. You know, so they were trying to gaslight. They wanted to will that into existence. So it almost feels like the director Todd Phillips, who I like, was apologetic for that first movie because of that reaction. And holy shit, I love Todd Phillips.

[Brandon Herrera]

As a director like the Hangover War Dogs. Like this guy's done a lot of cool stuff. Joker, like usually I like his shit, but I am. I was shocked because again, I didn't know anybody had seen the movie yet. I didn't even know it was coming out. But I just saw on IMDb it was at like a 5.9 and falling.

[Donut Operator]

And then for the new Joker, for.

[Brandon Herrera]

The new joker, the old joker was.

[Eli Double Tap]

At like an 8.4, which like the old joker, if you watch that, that is. It's a great change from. They tried something new Todd Phillips did and it worked. Like for that take on Joker, you're like, holy shit. Okay, this is really, really dope. Joaquin Phoenix, amazing actor. Get to see what he can do. And then you see how dark they went with it with the subway scene or the live talk show host scene.

[Nerdrotic]

You're like, yep, yeah, it was a slow. Like nobody wants a joker origin. He's never supposed to have an origin. I didn't know I wanted the movie. But when you see the slow burn and it actually leads to this really open ended ending which is. Was it all in his head? Was half of it in his head? What's going on? You see the transformation in the Joker and it was supposed to be a one off and something you can debate till the end of time. Not anymore. If you, if you go watch this movie, it completely fucks up the first one. Like I. When I got home, I almost tossed my Steelbook Blu Ray in the trash. I'm like, I'm never watching this movie again.

[Eli Double Tap]

Como estas, bitches?

[Brandon Herrera]

We should have a shot of vodka and beans. Why are you here?

[Donut Operator]

When your boy brings the boys energy.

[Nerdrotic]

Why can you swallow that?

[Eli Double Tap]

Not the egg, right?

[Brandon Herrera]

Dude, that tastes like what factory tortillas smell like.

[Donut Operator]

Everyone get out of here right now.

[Brandon Herrera]

Go. He's not kidding.

[Nerdrotic]

Hard. Cut.

[Brandon Herrera]

That sounds fucking gross. I have a pretty good idea of how this is going to go.

[Donut Operator]

Welcome to my show.

[Brandon Herrera]

Welcome back. To Let them Cook.

[Eli Double Tap]

Without Spoilers. Can you say like, hey, this was a. So Brandon, this morning you said it was like a musical.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah. It's a musical with Lady Gaga, which at first when I saw that, I was like, wow, that's bold. I'm holding out. I have faith. I like the director. I'm willing to give it a shot. Now I'm hearing all this shit, I'm like, I'm not even confident I'm gonna go see it.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. Even like, I think the audience and the critics are in a rare agreement on this one. Not for the reasons why, but they both pretty much think it sucks. And I saw it and it sucks. And I respect what he was trying to do. But the musical bits are the worst part in it. They. They stop. It feels like the story's going somewhere and well, the music doesn't even fit to what's going on in the scene. Usually a musical like tells the story. It's just we're going to sing some oldies in the middle of the scene to pad some time. I don't know. And I can't tell you the difference. There's different style of singing. There's actual singing and then there's this, like, mumbly. It's like a normal person singing a song. Like, okay, she's singing a song. It's like, that's what it is. It's freaking terrible. And I think as a troll, I don't know if it's troll the audience. I don't know if it's troll of Warner Brothers. It was trolling the film. But like, yeah, this one cost $200 million. The other one cost 55 million.

[Donut Operator]

So they went to Lady Gaga.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Fair.

[Nerdrotic]

And Joaquin Phoenix.

[Brandon Herrera]

They're. They're trolling the investors.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes. Whatever is. They're not going to be trolling the box office because people aren't like, the tracking is horrible for it. So I think it's going to fly.

[Donut Operator]

You think they like him doing the dancing scene down the stairs in the first one. They're like, we should make a whole movie of this.

[Nerdrotic]

Maybe that's.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, I hate Cody. Oh, I hate that. That's probably what happened. They're like, look at all the memes that came from the him. This.

[Nerdrotic]

Because everyone.

[Eli Double Tap]

The little version of him. Oh, this will make it viral.

[Brandon Herrera]

I forgot the little Joker meme. That was pretty good.

[Eli Double Tap]

I guarantee that's what happened, Cody. Yeah, that's exactly what happened.

[Nerdrotic]

To say. And they're like, Hollywood's blend of, like, retardation and incompetence is unbelievable. Look at being in charge of a lot of money. By the way, the.

[Eli Double Tap]

What was. The Mobius is the perfect example. They took that more.

[Brandon Herrera]

Morbius.

[Eli Double Tap]

Morbius.

[Nerdrotic]

Morbius.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, Morbius.

[Nerdrotic]

Let's morph in time.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's morbid.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, they're fucking funny.

[Eli Double Tap]

A meme. And then Hollywood, in their infinite wisdom were like, oh, we need to relaunch this. They get taking off. And then they made like 10 grand, I think.

[Nerdrotic]

I don't know about 10 grand. But they didn't make much. It was. They lost money re releasing it.

[Brandon Herrera]

That was the Hollywood version of the fucking AMC stock troll is what that was.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

I just like, Hollywood bought and they're like, bro, it's taken off. We need to put this back in the theaters.

[Nerdrotic]

They won it.

[Donut Operator]

And then it's like, well, while they were riding the. The new joker was that not during the writers strike while they were writing that.

[Nerdrotic]

So I think so.

[Donut Operator]

So they were pulling from the bottom of the barrel.

[Nerdrotic]

I mean, most everything we're seeing was either around that time. I don't know for sure. But Todd Phillips said he didn't want to make a sequel forever. And they just backed up enough. The Brinks truck with enough money where.

[Brandon Herrera]

He'S like, they suffered from success where it did so fucking well in the box office. He's like, all right, I didn't want to make one, but 20 million is 20.

[Nerdrotic]

20 million is 20 million. And that's how much Joaquin Phoenix made. I think Lady Gaga made 12 million. And they're going to lose tens of millions.

[Eli Double Tap]

Maybe I'd make passion price 3 if you offer me. I'm going to figure out how to make this script happen.

[Brandon Herrera]

Just funny.

[Eli Double Tap]

You heard fucking Jesus coming in, like, T1000.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. Well, I mean, it could be judgment day. I mean, you could do it, right?

[Donut Operator]

Schindler's list, too? Yep.

[Nerdrotic]

20 million.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'll do it. I'm gonna find a way, dog.

[Brandon Herrera]

He's gonna kick off the myth just to make a documentary about it.

[Eli Double Tap]

Everyone will find a way to make that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Lady Gaga's your star.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

No, it's like, buddy, but Schindler's List.

[Nerdrotic]

No, Schindler has to be. Schindler has to be a black lesbian.

[Donut Operator]

Like a space witch.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like a real hero. Yeah, a real hero and a real human being.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think this is more offensive. I don't know why. It just feels more offensive.

[Brandon Herrera]

I love how you like. Who's a Jew? I don't know. Lady Gaga. I was like, God damn. Could still be in Schindler's List too. Like, shit, dude. Dude.

[Nerdrotic]

Accidental like.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay, this works. Oh, you've been like, killing it with everything going on, especially with the content world. Because now we have Lord of the Ring. I will not say Lord.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. Rings of Power.

[Eli Double Tap]

Rings of Power. Sorry for. Sorry.

[Nerdrotic]

It's all right.

[Eli Double Tap]

Tolkien. Jesus. Watching the last. As you said, it's like this. Have you guys watched the last episode? Just watching the battle sequence.

[Brandon Herrera]

I haven't seen any of them.

[Nerdrotic]

I refuse.

[Donut Operator]

I tried to watch it because his videos pop up on timeline and I'm like, I'm not watching it. I'm not watching it.

[Brandon Herrera]

You and Critical Drinker tell me what to watch.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, well, thanks. Yeah. I try to save people time. It's part of our service, you know, of watching bad TV. But, yeah, nobody's watching this. It lost like 60% of its audience.

[Eli Double Tap]

If you want a good reference, two episodes of unsub does more viewership than the entire series. Right now it's like 900,000.

[Nerdrotic]

It was at 900,000 for the premiere over five days. And I'm sure you guys could eclipse that easily.

[Donut Operator]

Okay, the budget. The budget was insane. What was the budget?

[Nerdrotic]

A billion dollars. Billion dollars.

[Eli Double Tap]

This is a billion dollars.

[Nerdrotic]

And they just had their worst episode.

[Eli Double Tap]

For season two was a billionaire in total.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay, okay.

[Nerdrotic]

God.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was going to say.

[Nerdrotic]

So it's like 400 for season one. And then they moved from New Zealand to the UK which cost them money. And then they had to rebuild all the studio, a special studio just for it. So, yeah, it's well over a billion.

[Brandon Herrera]

Because I know they had to buy the rights from the Tolkien family.

[Nerdrotic]

They did. And it's just some of the rights. It's the appendices at the end of Lord of the Rings, basically at the end of Return of the King. They can, like use some stuff from the books.

[Brandon Herrera]

It was the. They didn't. They ended up cheaping out on these Silmarillion.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. They couldn't get that. They could have and they didn't for some reason.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then they hired a Lord of the Tolkien expert. And then they fire a historian. And then they fired historian because he was arguing. It's like, hey. That.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's just like the Henry Cavill Witcher thing. Yeah. Like, hey, this is trash.

[Nerdrotic]

Exactly.

[Eli Double Tap]

This not work. Orcs and elves wouldn't have a. The orcs and the elves come together in a battle and have a talk off.

[Nerdrotic]

They have. They parlay. They do it. It's fucking insane. It's like angels and demons sitting down and, you know, during the battle, you know, during Revelations and like having some tea. It's like. It makes no sense, but it's. It's.

[Eli Double Tap]

I love it.

[Nerdrotic]

Without getting too deep in the lore, the last episode was the biggest betrayal because. And I don't care what their fucking rationalization is for it. They had Galadriel making out with Elrond, her future son in law. All right. Which is going to make dinner at Lothlorien and you know, and Riven. Rivendell. Like fucking, like really uncomfortable. And it's a long kiss. So they tried to, like, explain. No, he was just passing or something. It wasn't a romantic. It was a romantic kiss. And that's like. I can't even think of a analogy that fits.

[Brandon Herrera]

It'd be like Star Wars Episode 4 having a brother, sister kissing it.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. But at least George Lucas, like at the time they weren't brother and sister and he changed his mind later. This is like having the Virgin Mary make out with Satan. I think that's the best analogy for it. It's. It makes, you know. Well, that would be of her shipping Sauron. Sorry, I'm getting mixed up, but it's fucking ridiculous. And it got the fandom all pissed off and it was just like the. It was the worst offenses against a worst offense I've seen against lore and all the shit I've and I. All the acolyte and Star wars and Doctor who and Star Trek and everything I've seen. That was the single worst thing. Thankfully nobody's watching it. So it's not in the zeitgeist as much as like the acolyte was.

[Brandon Herrera]

That was the big one for me because like I thank God I never fucking watched it. But the idea of immaculate conception through the force, it's like, okay, cool. So this Skywalker saga means nothing. The only thing that made Anakin Skywalker special. Special in any way, shape or form, like other than just being a slave boy, that was fought by a 40 year old Jedi, which is kind of weird, but.

[Nerdrotic]

Well, that's, that's, that's what they try to do. That's why they.

[Brandon Herrera]

You came back from that mission and you bought a child.

[Eli Double Tap]

You just filling them up.

[Brandon Herrera]

The fuck's that all about?

[Nerdrotic]

What's up?

[Eli Double Tap]

You good at speed, racing dog?

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Thankfully he died.

[Eli Double Tap]

You just made Darth Maul the good guy. He's just saving fucking Anakin from trauma.

[Brandon Herrera]

That old man just bought that kid.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, well, by the time Disney's done, Palpatine is the good guy. I mean, like, did you see the rise of Skywalker? You know, like. I agree. Yeah, that was. The acolyte was something else because I think it was whatever last vestiges of Star wars fans that were holding out hope. I think that was like over. I don't know why that was over the line. There's so many other great examples, but the acolyte was so predictably bad and that the power of one, the power to that witch scene went so freaking viral, I couldn't believe it. You know, I might if you were just taking clips out of the show at the time on Twitter.

[Eli Double Tap]

Cody. What? This is Cody.

[Nerdrotic]

Like, oh, you have no idea.

[Donut Operator]

Like I said, like I started, like I thought about watching it and then I would just go to your thumbnails and I would watch a couple, like a couple of your videos. Like I'm not watching this shit now.

[Brandon Herrera]

I watched that. That came across my Twitter, that. That scene, and I thought it was actually. No, no, it was again, critical drinker. I saw the little clip that he put in his video. I'm like, that. That's not edited. No, that's final. Final drafts.

[Donut Operator]

What's the witch scene?

[Nerdrotic]

Okay, okay, so just like with Galadriel making out with Elrond, these scenes make it past. I can. Hundreds of people. I mean, that might be a high estimate, but we're talking about agents, executives, executive producers, script supervisors, line producers, everything. So let's just say 80 people. It makes it past 80 people going, I have no problem with that. You know, that's why In Wonder Woman 84, Patty Jenkins wrote Wonder Woman. Dude, we won't get into that. That got passed.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, that is true. That did happen.

[Nerdrotic]

That did happen.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, I forgot.

[Nerdrotic]

Adrian Elrond making out made it past a lot of people. So this witch scene where, yes, the witches. The power of many, can immaculately conceive identical twins who as kids aren't identical at all. They look like. They look like they have different fathers. We might probably do. And then they do this communist lesbian space witch singing that they were proud of. They even brought the. The composer of the song. And when we clipped this out. So it was just a. It was basically an initiation for these two twins that were conceived by whatever. It's not called the Force, it's called the thread. Am I confusing you yet? I'm confused. And they were be. They were going to be initiated into this. This, you know, this group of witches. A coven. Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

But it's basically it's. Or it's the Force. Midichlorian. Ivf.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes. Without mentioning them. Like it's. Again, it's called the thread, which you don't want to get too on the nose with lesbian space witches thread. I mean, there were. Do you ever see the poster for the acolyte? The first poster, it was mean to hell. So it was a lightsaber hilt with blood coming out of it. And you can imagine what the hell they mean. Did they. They made it like race tracks. They had a squirrel scraping its ass because it was a scrape of blood. So it looked like. Looked like skid marks. So it got memed to hell. So, yeah. So they initiate these two girls and they do this song. And I clipped it out and other people did too. If you clipped out anything from this show, it was getting millions of impressions on X. You're.

[Eli Double Tap]

You were getting about a million to 2 million views per video. Yeah, that during that entire Accolade series. Yeah, that was a great time.

[Nerdrotic]

That was a good. Wait, does the thread hashtag renew the acolyte? It was such a. Well, the thing was it was such a memeable show because it was so bad. For one, you had Amanda Stemberg, who, by the way, privileged child actress, daughter of millionaires who made a diss track against fans after, like, after that third episode.

[Eli Double Tap]

Have you seen the diss track?

[Donut Operator]

No, I tried not to click on it.

[Eli Double Tap]

The main. Laughably, the main actress made a district because the series was a. Like, people are like, this sucks. Also, your acting is absolutely horrendous. You have no emotional range. She made a diss track to make fun of the fans of Star wars.

[Brandon Herrera]

And all of her co workers were like, yes, Queen. Like, they were all about it.

[Donut Operator]

Was there were thread ever in any of like.

[Nerdrotic]

No, no, they just made that shit up.

[Donut Operator]

Dozens of novels that Star wars has had.

[Nerdrotic]

Hundreds.

[Donut Operator]

Ever been hundreds of novels?

[Nerdrotic]

Nope. No. No, there's been. There's been space witches, but there hasn't been a thread.

[Eli Double Tap]

Now the space which has come from the, like, outside extended universe.

[Nerdrotic]

Well, from the extended universe, but from outside the galaxy. And there's some inside the galaxy. Right. Power depending on book. And I haven't read every book, but there's people who know it far better than I do, but they just don't.

[Brandon Herrera]

Let us know in the comments.

[Nerdrotic]

They will, and I love you for it. But no, they made up this coven of lesbian communist space witches. And I say communist because that's what they were, was the whole. It was just a freaking communist theme. They needed no men. They just made some girls and played by Amanda Stenberg. As I said, she. She was so great in a role. She played two different roles exactly the same way. Like brilliant acting. And yeah, she got pissed. So she made a diss track against fans that got memed to hell. And like the backlash was dying down until she did that. And it just. It went to the stratosphere after that. It was. It was crazy.

[Donut Operator]

It's everyone else's fault, though.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yes.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, it's the fans. It's always the fans fault when it comes to Disney. That's. And that kind of marketing comes straight from the top.

[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Well, bad idea.

[Chase]

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[Nerdrotic]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Nerdrotic]

When I did the Rings of Power coverage for the first season, I had people from Amazon reaching out to me afterwards and people who worked on the show who currently worked on the show and fed me all kinds of oh.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like behind the scenes they were like.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, this is so bad.

[Brandon Herrera]

What were they saying?

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, the stuff I can't. I made a video called the Rings of Power. The making of a disaster came out a couple years ago. But they can I guess real quick.

[Eli Double Tap]

If I again this is Eli separated from Hollywood for 10 years. Better of 10 years. I think eight years. Chase. Chase knows he just came from LA. The level of insanity just guessing on this you will see first off you cannot like it is so hit with the DEI and then they will rewrite shit to it doesn't matter what the mass audience wants. It's like how do we cater to a specific audience?

[Brandon Herrera]

I think the key word is new audiences.

[Nerdrotic]

New modern audience that doesn't exist.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then it is catered around that it is how everyone's hired how everything has to be handled on set. You it is a multi layered problem and it doesn't get better any which way. And then if you outside of that you will get pushback instantly. Like if you voice a reason like Henry Cal before the Witcher like hey, hey, this, this is not what. This isn't how this would go. What the fuck's going on? And then immediate pushback. That's probably what happened the entire time or what you heard.

[Brandon Herrera]

What did they say?

[Nerdrotic]

Yes. So every layer they put and there's so much more now post strike post Covid like kills creativity. So what I was told by somebody at the time very, very high up was the. That the marketing that they started the Rings of Power with that that Disney's perfected because it does relate to the acolyte came straight from the top, which was go after the fans. Because when Rings of Power started casting black female dwarves after telling us they're going to honor the lore, people were just going there's. Excuse me, there were no black dwarves. You know, they were. They dwell in mountains and they never.

[Eli Double Tap]

Tolkien never explained what females divorce look like. Right.

[Nerdrotic]

Other than beards.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's it.

[Nerdrotic]

Which they removed from the once. Once Amazon came out and Disa didn't have a beard, they actually removed it from the Tolkien gateway, which is like their Wikipedia. They removed it.

[Donut Operator]

You think they would want women with beards on there?

[Nerdrotic]

Well, they did it now they so well, it's a confronting for it. But like the marketing came from the top, which means it came from Jennifer Salkey, which means it comes from Kathleen Kennedy. And a lot of this is used through three party third party companies. It's not used all the time. There's plenty of people out there who, who are. Who just truly support the acolyte. Who can sound pretty loud on Twitter. Same with the Rings of Power. But there's also an argument to be made that wouldn't it be in the company's best interest to hire a third party company for plausible deniability to drum up what looks like interest. It's toxic positivity is the term now. But drop drum up a false interest in something where it's easy, like on X Twitter. And it makes sense because that's the shit they accused us of back in the day when it's just bots. When Russian bots back in those days, like what the fuck are you talking about? Who's gonna. I'm not gonna pay money for somebody to downvote Captain Marvel. I'll just say it sucks. I don't care if people like it.

[Brandon Herrera]

You're allowed to like shit that I don't like. That's fine.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm a different opinion.

[Nerdrotic]

Not the conspir. But wouldn't it make sense for a giant corporation that pumped $200 million into something to maybe drum up some interest where they know there is none and they knew. They knew what Amazon. They were already in trouble with the Rings of Power.

[Brandon Herrera]

You know what it reminds me of? Like genuinely like that marketing strategy. It reminds me of like the book Trust Me I'm Lying by Ryan Holiday where they would purposely. They put up a poster like I think it Was like, I hope they serve beer in hell. It's like objectively, I think a trash movie if you look at IMDb. But he was part of the marketing campaign. And what they do is they put up a billboard in LA and then deface their own billboard so it would show up in news articles and shit like that. So there's all of a sudden conversation started about it. So like you are putting out garbage so that they will throw shit at it and you can throw back. And all of a sudden there's discourse, there's actual discourse where there shouldn't be.

[Nerdrotic]

And there's still, I guess, a thought amongst the corporations that any press is good press. Any discourse is because good discord. Well, with the Rings of Power in particular and Acolyte with the Rings of Power, first season was far more in the zeitgeist. And because the Tolkien fandom was like, fuck no.

[Eli Double Tap]

And that was like 1.8 million viewership first week.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then it went down.

[Nerdrotic]

Well, they claimed like 25 million people watched it worldwide, but by the end it lost 63% of its audience. Because.

[Brandon Herrera]

You find these people.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, I don't know where they find them either. But like the comment section and that's where. Right around where YouTube had it was because of the White House, by the way. But. And maybe Disney, but they got rid of their dislike button and then they started deleting comments were like, this thing sucks. So people got smart and they just started saying, oh, my favorite part. When Is when Gandalf said it's morbid time. You know, they just started trolling the tr and it's been great. And they did it with Acolyte too.

[Eli Double Tap]

Gandalf saying, it's him more.

[Brandon Herrera]

If Gandalf all over want to have.

[Nerdrotic]

A good laugh, go to the Rings of power season one or acolyte comment sections on YouTube. It's hilarious. Like, people got so creative with that. It's so good. And it was. It was amazing trolling. And they can't stop it, so you can't. They were just automatically deleting certain keywords. So they're just. All right, well, we'll just roll into it and we'll clown you to your face. We don't have to say it sucks. And that's better, you know, and because mockery works and it led to the Acolyte getting publicly canceled. Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

That should be your next T shirt. Mockery works.

[Nerdrotic]

It does.

[Eli Double Tap]

Actually, that's a really good Mockery works.

[Nerdrotic]

It does make somebody feel foolish. And that's Greatest by putting a mirror up to their face. Like I'm gonna use your language against you and I'm just gonna like these are the things you're telling me. I'm not making anything up. I am just reflecting back what you have told me that you have priorit prioritized identity politics. You use terms like white passing. I was talking about it in a stream earlier today. Pedro Pascal gets. Gets cast in everything because he's white passing. That is somebody I heard from Marvel. That's why he was cast as Reed Richards.

[Brandon Herrera]

His first name is Pedro.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wait, what's white passing?

[Nerdrotic]

What's white passing?

[Brandon Herrera]

You're white passing, Eli.

[Nerdrotic]

This is a term where we can put somebody in that's diverse but they can still pass as a white guy by replacing a white character. This is how fucking insane they've gotten. Right? And they're the ones that I mean they brought back and the media brought back person of color. They're the ones who call people marginalized all the time. These. We were talking about it earlier. Marginalized. People don't know how to use apps. They don't know how to use the phone. They don't know how to use compute.

[Eli Double Tap]

Listen to how Brandon are founding it. Like finding out about you. We thank. We have a very strong white leaders.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, exactly. I was able to describe this.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, you could do more than clean my pool.

[Eli Double Tap]

You know I can't.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

You know, Eli and Brandon came along. I was like guys, there's this podcast thing. I don't know. You're not gonna understand it at first. I'll lead you through it. There's this YouTube thing you guys can get into. And they're like see, it's called an.

[Nerdrotic]

App which is.

[Eli Double Tap]

The one needs a yard. How much space is it? $50.

[Brandon Herrera]

I can't show. I can't show YouTube.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon Power washed it.

[Brandon Herrera]

I can't show my ID to vote because obviously I'm too marginalized to ever figure out how to get a driver's license.

[Nerdrotic]

And there's a bunch of dumb woke mostly women. White women. And it's in Hollywood think this walk.

[Eli Double Tap]

Woke because apparently it does set up. Wait, does it set off the YouTube?

[Nerdrotic]

It's.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't think only in titles. Right.

[Nerdrotic]

I think in titles now that's new. We actually got confirmation of that.

[Eli Double Tap]

If you ever want to know how much backend goes into YouTube videos it is a lot more than your average person. Like words searches. What even we say during the podcast. That's why we have pepper box.

[Brandon Herrera]

Can I actually Say the one. One of my favorites that I've ever figured out. Had to figure out about the YouTube algorithm of things you can and cannot say in the N word. Definitely can't. Oh, well, I mean, you could if you want.

[Nerdrotic]

Hard R. That's okay, buddy. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

One day, Cody floating.

[Brandon Herrera]

I just can't figure out who's in Paris.

[Donut Operator]

I'm calling Tyler, the creator. Who's in Paris, man? Who's in Paris?

[Brandon Herrera]

Somebody's got to tell me. No, it was. It was. I was doing a video.

[Eli Double Tap]

For this conversation.

[Brandon Herrera]

It was a. It was a video about a guy who had done a. To troll the atf. He had replaced his arm brace with a Fleshlight and basically had written a. An approval letter to the atf, basically asking for clarification on it. And he had an attorney actually draft up the letter. And I did a whole video, basically on it. And the ATF had to reply.

[Eli Double Tap]

But what was the response?

[Brandon Herrera]

I can't remember. Basically, they were like, we. We're not going to comment on that. Basically. Because he was just like, I know you said you. I can't shoulder it, but what if it's attached to another appendage? That was his whole premise behind it.

[Eli Double Tap]

But really high, like a picatinny mouth.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, he had a picture. He had a picture of a flashlight shoved through a Sig brace. I mean, like, I respect the troll. He actually paid an attorney to do it. The attorney reached out later. He's like, yeah, that was the weirdest thing I ever had to write. But the title for that, I found out that you. YouTube will flag adult toy on titles, but it will not flag Fleshlight, which for me is objectively worse. That's way more descriptive. But because it's a brand, the AI there, the algorithm doesn't catch it. So I flat out ran with Fleshlight and it stayed monetized for a few weeks.

[Nerdrotic]

That's crazy. Yeah, it's hard to figure it out.

[Eli Double Tap]

Do we, like, Cody has probably the heart. Well, I always think it's like, yeah, Cody has the hardest version of the back end of YouTube. A lot. If we can go into it really quickly. The amount of work and then understanding the algorithm, but also keywords and what fucks you like. And when it. When the word you is said, it is. Your video just dies instantly. So Cody's working with like, hey, have this. I have to put duck quacks in everything.

[Brandon Herrera]

The quacks of justice. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's like. And it's just, please, no whack. And it still gets demonetized right?

[Brandon Herrera]

I have a family.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's demonetized. So Cody does a video and then it's. You made $0 for that. That is like us going to your workplace. You work for a day, you say one word that somebody didn't like, and now your paycheck for that day is deleted permanently.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, like what's, it's just really fucking aggravating, especially with the, what they're doing with age restriction now.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, man, it's. It's fucking.

[Nerdrotic]

It's been weaponized.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it really has, man. And it sucks. Like you said using one word and then suddenly you didn't make any money for a video that you worked an entire day on.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, and there. So they have the capability, I know this for a fact, to like pinpoint it and it'd be like a, you know, a copyright claim where they go, cut out this little five second bit. Yeah, they can do that. They purposefully don't do that though.

[Donut Operator]

So. So they'll, they'll like, they'll take a five second bit, like if you use something that might have been popular, I don't know, 10 years ago, and then they'll take your money for the entire video out of a 10 second clip and they'll give it to that, like that. They'll give it to mgm, they'll give to Warner Brothers. They'll give your entire video's revenue to them. Because you might have used like a 5 or 10 second clip. Even if you, if you spoof it, like use, use a ridiculous version of a song or like a shitty flute version or whatever. Yeah, the shitty recorder version of it. They're like, no, that was our original song. And they'll take the entire revenue from your video from a five second clip.

[Brandon Herrera]

They've gotten me for covers.

[Eli Double Tap]

How dare you.

[Donut Operator]

Exactly.

[Brandon Herrera]

They've gotten me for covers, though, where they're just like, oh, you're using the melody of a song that we own.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, you just got hit with going back and now with Guns Tubers. It's terrifying is you just got back. Your old videos just got demonetized. And you're not the only one. They're hitting every.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, not demonetized, age restrict age, restart. Like, they'll age restrict full auto stuff now. And the thing that irritates me is that, look, if you guys want to be honest about this, I will play by your rules. It's your platform. If I, if I want to not play by your rules, I'll create my own platform, which I did Pepperbox. So but if. If YouTube wants to play the game a certain way to appeal to their advertisers, I'm totally okay with that. I will play by your rules. What I cannot fucking do is create content for what your rules will be in five years.

[Nerdrotic]

Yep.

[Brandon Herrera]

So, like, if they. If they roll out new rules, whatever, as long as they grandfather the old shit, fine. Because, like, you were the one who confirmed it monetized. I had a manual review. They said it was okay. And then three years down the road, you change your rules and fuck me over.

[Eli Double Tap]

Also being clear on everything they do, like, communication of how some of these rules change because they won't tell you.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, but you can lose your livelihood over.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Real, like, instantly. And there is times when, like, Brandon, you're at one strike because one video. Yeah, but. And then you're like, in hindsight, and you own that. You're like, you know what?

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. Like, for example, the. Yeah, the Shinzo Abe video. I'm like, all right. As soon as my YouTube rep explained to me why I got a strike for that, I'm like, all right, that's fair.

[Eli Double Tap]

Which.

[Brandon Herrera]

That video is now on Pepperbox.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

The only place you can see it, I think.

[Eli Double Tap]

But you own that. But that's what's scary about it, is imagine your job. Whatever you do, it is something that gets instated afterwards. And then immediately it's like, oh, your job's gone, period, and you cannot do it again.

[Brandon Herrera]

What I hate, though, is, like, having conversations directly with. Okay, so I love being able to have conversations directly with YouTube. I'm glad that they're open and they're willing to communicate with us. Like, that's a net positive. I'm not taking that away from them. What I hate is how smug some of their people are when they say, like, oh, no, no, no, we're not taking away your job. We're not taking away your ability to make money. All we're saying is that if you. And we're not saying that you can't make that kind of content. We're just saying that we're just going to reserve that for an over 18 audience. It's like, no, what you're telling me is that nobody's going to be able to fucking see it. It's going to be tanked by the algorithm. Only people that are signed in and above 18 can see it and say, you're taking away 90 of the views on it and I get no money. So, yes, that is what you are doing, is. You were telling me, I will not Be able to make it fix the glitch.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon. And the same saying in the same statement, they still say this won't affect your viewership.

[Nerdrotic]

That is don't they say it just even demonetizing.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh no, you're 100, right? I'm just getting aggravated.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was like, well, I'm right, right?

[Nerdrotic]

Age restrictions.

[Eli Double Tap]

You need to be Brandon, your facial.

[Brandon Herrera]

So no, the slow pan in on that.

[Nerdrotic]

No age restricted video shows up unless you're logged in. And there's a surprisingly high amount of people who watch your stuff who aren't logged into YouTube. Just go search it without logging into the app.

[Brandon Herrera]

Even if you're a 45 year old man, you cannot watch age restricted content unless you are logged in Google account that is verified over 18 and then.

[Nerdrotic]

And then being simply demonetized kills. Now this is the one they claim. No, no, it doesn't affect it at all. That's total. I have so many examples of things going up and then they get demonetized. Just stops.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think Cody has like the. It's like this doesn't affect you and it's Cody's viewers like.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, well they always say monetization doesn't affect your viewership.

[Nerdrotic]

Bull.

[Donut Operator]

Like you said, it's, it's videos climbing, climbing, climbing. Demonetized. Oh, no money.

[Nerdrotic]

Nope.

[Donut Operator]

No viewership, no money, nothing.

[Nerdrotic]

It must be crazy for you guys right now.

[Brandon Herrera]

So that's getting worse.

[Donut Operator]

It's getting worse.

[Brandon Herrera]

Why? I'm glad to have alternatives.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. And it's building those. It's not complaining. We still love like, we still are like, Yo, YouTube has provided this amazing experience and a network and everything we get to do then it's that offset. It's like, hey, do the extra work to build something which then everyone gets to have a good time, have fun videos, not worry about censorship. You all get an amazing experience. If you want to pay, you still get everyone's content. Again, that's the most important part. It wasn't. Everything's behind a paywall. Everyone still, we care about you guys. That's why it's like, hey, let's add additional things which is censorship free, blah.

[Nerdrotic]

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Brandon Herrera]

For me, the frustration goes beyond that because I think, you know, firearm content is just important to have period. And like, for, for me, I do like firearm stuff. I do like safety instructional. I do a lot of like firearm safety, how things work, like things that I think are important, especially with culture war stuff. I feel like that's extremely important to have that out there and to reach New and bigger audiences. You. You do. You basically disprove a lot of the disinformation about police shootings and different things like that, and you give a refined perspective. I think there's a huge place for that. That's when YouTube is important. Yeah, my thing is, like, it's not just about the fucking money. I've made a lot of money. That's fine. It's not about that for me anymore. It's like, I feel like, okay, could I off to another platform where I get, like, 5% of the viewership and still make as much money? Sure. But, like, YouTube is where the popular conversation is, and if we're not reaching that next generation, we are fucked. Like, we need to have our voice heard on a. On the open platform of discourse.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's why I love Cody's content. Cody's content is doing a service to everyone because you still point out, like, even if it's a bad shooting, where you're like, hey, this dude's in the wrong, the police officers in the wrong, you still cover that. And then you're like, hey, I'm fucking tired of this. This is what makes the good ones look bad. It's not like you're picking and choosing. You're like, you cover both sides. And I think that's where a lot of people don't understand is you are not choosing a site. You're like, you want to do the best, and you want to present that information without all the hoopla and the.

[Nerdrotic]

The.

[Eli Double Tap]

The stories behind it. Cody, here's the stories that again, if you don't know this, Cody reaches out to the precincts. You get all the information, you get the footage, and then you break it down from a police officer's perspective and somebody that just cares about, like, hey, as a whole, I care about everyone. America first. I want everyone to be like, how do we move ahead? And you do that. And then people still get. That gets restricted because violence.

[Donut Operator]

I censor my shit as much as the news does that you watch on public tv.

[Brandon Herrera]

Probably more so.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, probably.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, exactly.

[Eli Double Tap]

I just found out you did cop content. I thought it was just duck sounds.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, no, I censor it. I can't even play gunshots anymore on YouTube. That's where the duck comes from. The quack of justice.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's ridiculous.

[Donut Operator]

I'm trying to, like, I'm not saying, like, hey, every police officer is a great person. No, I'm saying, like, there should be more training.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Maybe not defund them. Maybe give them a little bit more Money so that they can train and not shoot people more. And it's like, no, you boot liquor piece of. You love every cop. You love when they shoot the black people, don't you? No, I've never said that, man.

[Eli Double Tap]

No. And the perspective is Cody's just, like, racist as his. Like, his best friends and business partners are like, Mexicans.

[Donut Operator]

Mexicans.

[Brandon Herrera]

Your partner as a cop was Chocolate.

[Eli Double Tap]

Chocolate, yeah. You, he lived with. That was your roommate. Like, that's one of your homies to it. And it's like, oh, fucking.

[Brandon Herrera]

Did you have to use the H word on that? Really?

[Nerdrotic]

Which one?

[Eli Double Tap]

Homos.

[Nerdrotic]

There's so many to choose from.

[Eli Double Tap]

And that's why it's like, Cody As. And it's. It's crazy from the outside perspective, watching this narrative that gets built for Cody. Even Brandon. Like, Brandon is a alt right person.

[Donut Operator]

And you're like, extremist.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was like, yeah, he's a racist. I was like, I didn't know that Brandon, that.

[Brandon Herrera]

You know, I made that joke from the very beginning of my campaign when I first kicked that off. That was what I said before any of this happened. I'm like, man, I just can't wait to find out of all the things I did know about myself.

[Nerdrotic]

Yep.

[Brandon Herrera]

And God damn, did I find out some things.

[Nerdrotic]

Wow. I don't like the Jews. Holy shit.

[Eli Double Tap]

I didn't know that.

[Brandon Herrera]

I either. Oh, no, that was the fun part. Like, if you're on Twitter, it's like, I either hate Jews or I fucking love them. Like, I'm either sold out to them or I hate them. Both are, apparently. It's like, what is it mutually exclusive, man? God, what is the principal. Help me on this. The cat.

[Eli Double Tap]

Schrodinger, stat.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, Schrodinger. Statistics come up. I got concerned.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, okay.

[Eli Double Tap]

That was one of my. It was racist with the Jews.

[Donut Operator]

It was like, Schrodinger. Are you Schrodinger?

[Nerdrotic]

How did you get that? How did you get that?

[Brandon Herrera]

That's what it was during my campaign. It was Schrodinger's Jew. I either hate them or love them, depending on who you ask on the Internet.

[Eli Double Tap]

Schrodinger's Jew.

[Nerdrotic]

There's so many jokes there. Never mind.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, go for it. I'm already. Already put myself out there.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hey. I just like. You're like, Connor.

[Brandon Herrera]

Connor's like Schrodinger. I'm like Pavlov's dog. The thing with the cat, you're like, yeah, anti Semitism. And then pointed at me. Sorry for the unintentional collateral. But that's gonna be the new thing on the podcast.

[Eli Double Tap]

Schrodinger.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

Shrouding here's Jewish.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Everyone's going through, like, all those things from. And it's crazy to see. I. I'm still surprised. The podcast gets a pretty. We like, the only hiccup we get. It's like, they're political. We don't. We've never, like, literally touched base on politics.

[Brandon Herrera]

Speaking of which, what do you think about the Israel situation right now?

[Nerdrotic]

Don't you even.

[Eli Double Tap]

I go from we're not political to.

[Nerdrotic]

Be like, well, that there's the joke.

[Brandon Herrera]

I never talked about any of this during my campaign either. We never talked issues on here because, like, it's not the time and place. No. And everyone just bros hanging out. We're having fun.

[Eli Double Tap]

And I think that's. It's breaking that normalcy that everyone's like, oh, you turn on the Internet and you're like, God damn it. Because everyone starts to go towards that and you're like, I just wanted to hang out with the bros. Watching it drunk or talk about Star wars, anything. Gun builds, whatever we're doing next for content. And that's what people are happy or just laughing at the word. We love that one.

[Nerdrotic]

Thank God it's come back. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Retarded space lesbians. Can we get back to that?

[Nerdrotic]

Sure.

[Brandon Herrera]

We've completely. We. I feel like the Internet has retaken. Oh, yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

We love that word. It's a strong word word.

[Nerdrotic]

It's one of the strong word is.

[Brandon Herrera]

The hill I'll die on.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm not. I'm not letting go of that one. I've let go of too much.

[Nerdrotic]

No, far too much.

[Brandon Herrera]

And.

[Nerdrotic]

And it's. It's. It. It's healing and. Yeah, once we get some more gamer words back, we'll know we're a proper society again.

[Eli Double Tap]

Chase is doing time stamps right now.

[Nerdrotic]

Remove.

[Eli Double Tap]

Remove. He's like, God damn it, guys.

[Brandon Herrera]

I would see.

[Eli Double Tap]

Told you to stop doing this.

[Brandon Herrera]

When Chase is in the room when we're recording, I always just see, like, the meme of, like, stress. 99%.

[Eli Double Tap]

Chase is killing, by the way, bro. Just fantastic transcript.

[Nerdrotic]

That's a great way to do that, by the way. If you want to take those things out, just run it through the transcript.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's not perfect.

[Nerdrotic]

Nope. But it helps. Time saver. No, it's not perfect. You're right. All alone now.

[Eli Double Tap]

Time to trim the old pubes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hey there, beach babe.

[Chase]

Are you ready to soak up those summer vibes and get the perfect beach Bod.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't have pants on.

[Chase]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Nerdrotic]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Nerdrotic]

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[Chase]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Chase]

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[Nerdrotic]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Using code UN [e-mail] the Summer sun is here to stay, so trust Manscape to keep those pubes at bay. Oh, Deadpool. Going on to Deadpool. You loved it, but also the story. I actually was very interested on your take on that because we all loved it. It was fun. It broke the mold for the. It broke the new mold because we got so used to something. As you said, though, you're like, the story is just good. It's nothing crazy.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Deadpool 1.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, this is Wolverine.

[Donut Operator]

Wolverine.

[Nerdrotic]

Deadpool.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

So he actually, he.

[Brandon Herrera]

I.

[Eli Double Tap]

Your take is. It's different from the norm where it's like cuz either hated or loved, but you were like, hey, like the story. If it wasn't in this time period, it would just been a mediocre like or a. But it would have been good.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. If it wasn't. If we weren't like swimming through like a sea of sewage for entertainment. And it came out like a few years ago. I don't think it would have the impact that it did now. It was a complete reversal. So everything matters in context. The first two Deadpool movies, I think are better. They have more heart.

[Brandon Herrera]

You'd say better.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. I think two is better than three. I absolutely do. Because it's more of a Deadpool story. Deadpool. Wolverine is kind of a gimmick, a gimmick that I'm used to for. From reading a lot of comic books. It's just throwing in a bunch of cameos. It does feel kind of hollow at times, but Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds. White Boy Summer, by the way. Summer. That's what it was. Carried it with their charisma and it was just. And we were waiting for Wolverine to finally team up with Deadpool. And it took pure desperation for this to happen. You know, Ryan Reynolds, when he did the announcement trailer, was half joking like, I got nothing. Well, you know, Disney had the rights to Deadpool. They could have made a sequel whenever the they wanted and they didn't. They waited five years, five or six years, five years to have it done. And they had to bring back Hugh Jackman, which shows how fucked Disney Marvel is. And you know, they're bringing back Robert Downey Jr. Now and the Russo brothers. And it's because they fucked everything up. They up the easiest lay of all time by wanting to pretty much change out all the heroes. And we have like the B and Z team. We have Captain African American coming out in February. Nobody's going to fucking watch that. Nobody cares.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, you don't understand. Indiana Jones is red Hulk.

[Nerdrotic]

Indiana. 90 year old fucking Indiana Jones is Red Hulk.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wait, what?

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, Harrison Ford.

[Brandon Herrera]

Harrison Ford is Red Hulk is Red Hulk.

[Eli Double Tap]

Me and Cody have the same face. We're just, you know.

[Donut Operator]

I thought you guys were making a fucking joke.

[Brandon Herrera]

Literally. What is happening?

[Nerdrotic]

So Captain African American is going to have Hulk villains in it. Connor.

[Eli Double Tap]

Connor's laughing, right?

[Nerdrotic]

That's what it is. Steve Rogers, Captain America. Okay. Sam Wilson is Falcon. But yeah. So Harrison Ford is playing General Ross now because William Hurt passed away. So they found an older dude who could die any minute. Sorry. I hope Harrison Ford lives forever. So they found an older dude to play the Red Hulk. And I want.

[Brandon Herrera]

Is he playing Ross?

[Nerdrotic]

He's playing General Ross.

[Brandon Herrera]

You're. Oh, I didn't know that.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, General Ross is the Red Hulk. It's stupid as fuck. That is dumb in the comics and it's gonna be dumber in the movies.

[Eli Double Tap]

How old is he now?

[Nerdrotic]

80, 100,000 years old.

[Brandon Herrera]

I did want to go back to this. I did want to go back to this. I had a perfect comparison for when you're saying that, like why we love Deadpool versus Wolverine so much. Have you ever been out in the woods for like a week?

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And then like when you come back into civilization, you have a shitty like McDonald's cheeseburger.

[Nerdrotic]

It's the greatest thing you ever been in prison for like three years. So I had an omelet at Denny's. It was the best food I've ever had in my life. It was manna from heaven. Sorry to interrupt.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's probably a much better analogy considering the time frame we're talking about, since there's been a good Marvel movie.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes, but that's what it is. So it's in context of, like, there's been so much shit, we finally just got something that was fun, that wasn't preaching to us or trying to subvert expectations or replace a character with a. With a chick, you know, we're talking about the Acolyte, that South park episode that came out, Put a chick in.

[Brandon Herrera]

It, make your fucking name and game.

[Nerdrotic]

Put a chick in the linguine and.

[Brandon Herrera]

Make her fucking gay.

[Nerdrotic]

And I want it lame. Made an instant meme. But you know, Acolyte being the embodiment of that south park episode had a lot to do with its. With what's going on. And Marvel recognized it. So I talked to people doing this stupid show for my upstairs bedroom. It's not a basement, although, because we can't have basements in Texas. But it's weird that I've had so many people reach out to me anonymously. Like, I love what you do, bro, but we can't say anything or I'll get fired, you know? And it sucks. It sucks that they feel that way because there's people who legit want to make good stuff in Hollywood. Most of the people are just like working class men and women who just want to make good shit.

[Brandon Herrera]

And they're people who are passionate about good movies and they just want to get into Hollywood.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And unfortunately, that's the place that good movies aren't made anymore.

[Nerdrotic]

And they're at the mercy of a bunch of idiots right now. And it's corporatism and it's DEI itself. Imposed dei, but like, Marvel recognized, like, they saw what was going on. I say across the hall at Lucasfilm, they're like, we're not gonna do that anymore.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, we were when we were just in la. See, remember landing in lax?

[Donut Operator]

Oh, you talking about the. The witch thingy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, the posters for. It's Agatha all the way.

[Nerdrotic]

Agatha all along.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, Agatha all along. Wait, whatever. They changed the name.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. We were in la, what, like three weeks, weeks ago?

[Brandon Herrera]

Something like that.

[Donut Operator]

And we're like, every corridor we went down, every wall was painted with Agatha. Agatha, Agatha, Agatha, Agatha. Like every. Where we.

[Nerdrotic]

So every fentanyl zombie who walks around Los Angeles is going to watch Agatha, the. The show made for wine moms.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, download as soon as you download Disney plus, then they can kill you at any of their theme parks. Legally.

[Nerdrotic]

Legally. Yeah, they probably own your soul. I mean, I'd read all the fine print.

[Eli Double Tap]

I didn't like the Papa Meat one of that. No, not all Papa Meat just did deep dive into all the. Dude, that is one of the best episodes he's done recently because wife died, blah, blah, blah. And they paid. He was like, I just want 50 grand. They like, I didn't know it was so low.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, dude, 50 grand is like. That is a layup, legally speaking.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just wait till you see these.

[Nerdrotic]

Imagine how pissed his wife would be. 50 grand. Motherfucker. I died.

[Eli Double Tap]

They paid a. They paid more than 50 grand on somebody like broken arm or something.

[Brandon Herrera]

They paid. The husband paid more than that for his car.

[Nerdrotic]

So it's a restaurant on a Disney property. So it's not Disney proper. It was. I think it was. Reedy Creek is the. The controversial one that the. That they were suing Desantis for because.

[Brandon Herrera]

Because I think was the Irish.

[Nerdrotic]

They lost their tax exemption. Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yep.

[Nerdrotic]

So it was in Disney Springs. Yeah. So it wasn't proper Disney, but it was still Disney property. But yeah, they. They used the fine print and signing up for a free Disney plus account.

[Donut Operator]

That is wild. That's some crazy attorneys, by the way.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, I would say that that attorney is probably thinking like, this is. This is a big brain play. And then. And then unleash the biggest media scourge onto Disney.

[Nerdrotic]

And then the response was like, tough. That's in the fine print. Sorry about your wife, dude.

[Donut Operator]

Who owns the media? Oh, that's why.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, that's right. Disney.

[Brandon Herrera]

Thank God. That's where you were going with tones.

[Eli Double Tap]

Abc. Conor.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. Hey, Connor, who owns the media? Connor. Connor who runs Hollywood.

[Eli Double Tap]

I noticed pattern.

[Nerdrotic]

That's all I'm saying.

[Donut Operator]

It's not racism. It's pattern recognition.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's getting a little hot in there.

[Eli Double Tap]

Connor just said.

[Nerdrotic]

Hold on. No, that was.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is why Apex spent so much against me, I'm pretty sure.

[Nerdrotic]

Money well spent. Oh, dude. It got you out of working in Washington, man.

[Brandon Herrera]

I is one of my most hated cities in the. In the country. Every time I have to go there. I'm just. Most people who, like, don't get me.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wrong, I've never been D.C. to this day.

[Brandon Herrera]

Amazing history. Like, if you're just going for the museums and the monuments. Awesome. Anywhere else, think about basically a metropolitan downtown area, but with more crime. And also on top of the normal crime, there's white collar crime everywhere.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. I think Gotham City pretty close. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's where Batman would be.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Remember Dave Chappelle's bit about going to D.C. the first time. No, he's riding through there. He says his driver's taking him. Theories, like, gun store, gun store, liquor stores. Liquor store. Where you taking me? This is, like, whole all of dc. It's like back in the day when.

[Brandon Herrera]

You could have a gun in dc.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, yeah. Those are the good old days, man.

[Donut Operator]

It's like there's a baby store back when the.

[Brandon Herrera]

The mayor did crack openly and got reelected.

[Nerdrotic]

Reelected, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

That is a real thing. I am not kidding.

[Nerdrotic]

And he actually ran the city better than it's run now, guaranteed. Yep.

[Eli Double Tap]

I would trust a mayor that does it openly. I know he's not lying. So you're like, he's telling us that he's doing crack.

[Nerdrotic]

Mary and Barry, right? That was.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. BLEEP the name. But actually was a bouncer in D.C. for a few years and was there. He told a story of what? Like, Marion Barry and his boys were there in, like, a corner booth openly doing drugs. And, like, his guards had, like, pistols on the table, and they were just like, fuck it. I don't get paid enough for this as the mayor.

[Nerdrotic]

And still I respect that more than.

[Brandon Herrera]

The way it's being run now.

[Nerdrotic]

San Francisco or whatever that is in charge of LA right now. The mayor of la.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, God.

[Eli Double Tap]

I love it. You're just like, oh, Jesus Christ.

[Nerdrotic]

Like, Willie Brown, when he was our mayor in San Francisco, the guy was a gangster. I didn't care. Like, he got done. He got, like. He got some of the power lines buried under the streets. He got his new street lights. It's like, all right, he's everything, including Kamala Harris. But he gets done. He likes money. I respect that.

[Eli Double Tap]

You know, you're getting done. They had that whole, I forgot about.

[Brandon Herrera]

The Willie Brown, Kamala thing.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

I've tried to remove myself from politics a little bit these days. Recharge.

[Nerdrotic]

I'm sorry. She blew him. I don't want to. I don't want to spread misinformation.

[Brandon Herrera]

Apparently, you have no First Amendment right to misinformation. According to Tim Walls.

[Eli Double Tap]

You can't.

[Nerdrotic]

Or Gavin Newsom or anybody else. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

We can't make memes anymore in California.

[Nerdrotic]

No.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah. This is a new thing. We did not. I found out today. So it is making memes. When did this try to get rolled out? Making memes was a big no.

[Nerdrotic]

No, it's like.

[Donut Operator]

That was like, three weeks ago.

[Brandon Herrera]

Three.

[Nerdrotic]

Two or three weeks ago.

[Eli Double Tap]

I didn't. Brandon, you know about this so it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Was something about altered images like AI or things like that. Like they, what they were really going up against, and I think they were really pissed about, is that Elon Musk put out a, an altered Kamala Harris.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, Mr. Reagan. Mr. It was the account who put it out. And it was a great ad, by the way. Shout out to Mr. Reagan.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, but it was, it was AI altered of like Kamala's voice basically saying like, we're so glad that we've raised the, the price of groceries and this, this, this. But it plays out. It's very obviously satirical.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

But it plays out like a real campaign ad. And they freaked the fuck out because apparently this is the best political advertising they've ever seen. Because the political, the political establishment is behind. The political advertising establishment is like fucking two decades but behind. I've saw, I've seen that from the inside.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, we gotta watch it. It was insanity watching. And people at ground level or every, like, even the viewer, you do not understand how shady it is until watching what they were trying to do against you.

[Brandon Herrera]

But even then I still, I was just like, I. I'm a single guy, just a one lone dude, and I was winning.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's crazy because I was like, they spent 12 million to my like one one and a half. And so incumbents have a 97% reelection rate, I think in this country. I took mine to a runoff and he won by 407 votes after being outspent over 10 to 1. And that's fucking crazy.

[Nerdrotic]

That is out of touch from 4chan to make memes for you. Give him some like gamer subs and whatever, speed drinks or maybe some Adderall on the side that wouldn't be legal. And you, you could win. You could absolutely win. The meme election started in 2016 and they're still going now, like paid. I saw ads again. I'm at my freaking gym and I'm like, brandon Herrera doesn't like the Jews. No, they didn't say that for real. But like it was like, dude hates veterans all day. Oh yeah, hates veterans.

[Brandon Herrera]

And I'm just podcast full of veterans.

[Eli Double Tap]

And do military stories. Like literally the main driving force of the podcast. And they're like, he hates veterans.

[Nerdrotic]

Why?

[Eli Double Tap]

Because this two second quote, which a veteran made him talk about ripped out.

[Brandon Herrera]

Of context so you wouldn't know he was talking about a veteran prevention panel he was speaking at hours earlier.

[Nerdrotic]

But it's such a boomer thing to do. I hate to use that term, but like it's, it's on heavy rotation on all the local San Antonio stations playing in my gym. Nobody's paying attention to that shit. He pops out a meme for free on. On X Twitter. And it's going to get a thousand times more engagement and probably influence. Like, if you make somebody laugh, people go, he made me laugh.

[Brandon Herrera]

The crazy part is too, the amount of older people that especially. I think this is partially attributed to Tucker Carlson moving over to Twitter or X. The amount of older people I would see at campaign events that I'm talking or whatever. And then afterward we're doing Q and A. I'm just shaking hands, whatever. People that are in their like 50s and 60s that are like, you would never imagine, like people that are not in our sphere that don't do social media for a living. You're like, these people would never be engaging on. On Twitter. And they're like, oh, I just. I love you. Memeing on X.

[Nerdrotic]

It's like, haha, fuck me. All right.

[Brandon Herrera]

I never would have called that. But that's. It's super cool to see that aging up.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was weird watching Brandon break that cycle of hey, our demograph is a younger audience. And then going into restaurants months and going out like, whatever we're doing. And then you have like older individuals, like 50 plus, like, Brandon, I'm a huge fan. I'm like, yo, okay, this is new. I'm not used to seeing this. I'm used to seeing Cody probably the same. It's like that younger audience, seeing you pivot into that audience was wild to.

[Brandon Herrera]

Me, which is also like, it kind of hurts me a little bit because, like, I can usually predict if somebody's over 50 and they're coming up to shake my hand in public, like it's because of politics. And I get that. That's super cool. And I appreciate them, you know, being. Being on my side and being supportive. That's awesome. But I had a guy the other day that came up to shake my hand that was probably like, I don't know, 25 came up to shake my hand and goes, hey, man, what are you doing in San Antonio? Like, I'll take it. You didn't vote.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's your boy Brandon.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, Been living here for quite a while.

[Nerdrotic]

A little bit.

[Eli Double Tap]

What, so what, what next? What's your next thing after, like, Rings of Power? Because we have how many episodes left of that and then what?

[Nerdrotic]

One? Thank God.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, you hate it so much. I hate it. My favorite part is like, as you were saying, orcs parlayed and then Orcs have families and it do. It is such a sensitive orcs that.

[Nerdrotic]

Don'T want to go to war that they're worried about their kids at home. You know, little orc suburbs. They're taking little, you know, little.

[Brandon Herrera]

The orcs are really just victims of Israel.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, they're going to. We. I got in trouble looking right at you. Pointed trap, I think put up trout face. That episode, some of our thumbnails. He's just goose stepping out, walking with.

[Eli Double Tap]

His hand up at a 45 degree angle.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, like little gore bag wants to play, you know, you know, softball with like, you know, human heads. But yeah, we were playing with our thumbnails for that one and. And I went. I went light, but we had like free. More Free Mordor and From the Anduin to the Sea. Oh, no.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay. So I'm glad we went the same direction.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, yeah. I went with live laugh Lacerate. That was, you know, that was the safe one. But yeah, like suburban orcs. It's so stupid. Everything about it stupid. So thank God it's over. It's over. After one more episode.

[Brandon Herrera]

I do like telling me they're just like us.

[Nerdrotic]

They're just like us.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, this is what. And Cody, this is like, no exaggeration. These are. They have conversations about worrying about their family. Like orcs are talking. Okay, what was the last one that just happened, you pointed out?

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, the last one. He's like, hey, we can't win this battle. We need to go home. We need to retreat. You know, this is an orc. Are you sure you want to keep fighting? It's like, it's stupid. So Orcs, they aren't clearly defined. In Tolkien's legendarium, it's believed they're a corrupt form of life. That was basically Morgoth wanting to mock IRO Iluvatar so creating his own life because he was jealous and. Yeah, he just tortured elves and men, probably. And, and it's a tortured form of life. They, you know, there's. There's people who say they were grown. No, they're actually, they were created by Morgoth. But then they, they, they. Well, it's called Multiply in the lore. They multiply. And I've always thought it was like little, you know, a. A brood of Orcs and the runts die off and you know, whoever, you know, maybe out of. Out of a litter, three survive or something like that. And that's pretty much what.

[Brandon Herrera]

Because I'm like, I'm not a Lord of the Rings, you know, fanatic or you know, I don't have any greater understanding of it or anything, but I.

[Eli Double Tap]

Was like, you're not watching.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, they were like, the feral pigs of that universe.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. I mean, yes. They come out. Like, they even have that sword for the Urikai or that scene. It's like, pulling him out. Blip.

[Nerdrotic]

It's. The fundamental problem with Hollywood right now is they cannot tell a heroic story. Because they cannot tell. And this is legit. This goes back to our earlier conversation. They don't know. Their morals are so upside down. They don't know good for bad anymore. So they can write a movie and release it with Wonder Woman being a dude and not realize it. Like, what's the problem?

[Brandon Herrera]

What that was. Have you ever seen that?

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Nerdrotic]

So me.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay.

[Nerdrotic]

Wonder Woman 84.

[Brandon Herrera]

What is a real thing that happened. I thought about that in the theater. I was like, wait, what the.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. So Wonder Woman 84. Steve Trevor returns. The guy. Guy from the first movie, but he's dead, kind of. And he. And he takes a living human being's place. He takes his body, takes over the guy's body. So, like, we're seeing Steve Trevor, but it's really that dude's body?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

That dude could be gay for all we know. Kind of look gay Hollywood. High chance that he was gay.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, that was their excuse to bring back Chris Pine is because it's a normal dude possessed by Chris or in her mind or whatever, and she has.

[Nerdrotic]

Sex with that dude. Dude without his consent. So I'm just using your language against you. Okay. And that's. That's.

[Eli Double Tap]

So he took control of somebody else. It's like ghost, where it's taken.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't remember. It was actually him or it was just, like, a perception of him, but they brought back Crisp.

[Nerdrotic]

She sees him occupying another dude's body. She. She doesn't see Chris Pine. She sees that dude. We see Chris Pine. We see Chris Pine, and she.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's worse. That is objectively worse.

[Nerdrotic]

Yep.

[Donut Operator]

That's like day on a whole another level.

[Nerdrotic]

Yep. So, yeah, that gets past them. So, you know, they're trying to adapt Tolkien, which is. You know, there's shades of gray in it for sure, but it's. It's. Evil is clearly defined.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

There's good and there's evil. And just like Star wars, evil and good are clearly defined, but now those lines are blurred because there can't be evil. There's only oppression, you know, and it's just this. This. This belief system, and it doesn't Work. It literally doesn't work for storytelling. You can't tell the hero's journey anymore. And that's, you know, kind of a tried and true thing that is. That's worked for thousands of years. You know, the hero's journey.

[Brandon Herrera]

This like. Like, what is it? A St. George story or, like, basic. Basic storytelling elements, like, work anymore.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, you have three arcs. You have, like, there's a formula, two stories. And you can change the formulas around, but you need. You can't have, like, that weird gray area unless you're doing, like, a series. Like, Berserk does a good gray area.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's also fucking 20 years in. 30 or 30 years in the making.

[Nerdrotic]

But there's still a through line.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, like. Like Griffin Griffith is a perfect example of fucking pure evil and how they manipulate that. And then.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, a song of ice and fire, shades of gray all day long. And it's got feminist themes in it, but they're still classic fantasy in it. And a through line. It'll never finish, so I can't call it a through line, but whatever.

[Brandon Herrera]

And.

[Nerdrotic]

And they know they can't do that anymore because a lot of people in the past. The mask came off in 2016, so a lot of people in the past who wrote Batman actually thought Batman was a fascist. So there's a lot of people who wrote Superman who think Superman is a fascist. They like to use that term a lot because they learned it in university, not realizing that they work for giant corporations who are in league. League with the government, which is actually fascism.

[Brandon Herrera]

So that's my favorite part of that, where they're just like, we're fighting the system. It's like, the. The system? You mean the giant mega corporations that all agree on the same thing? Like, you. You're not fighting the norm if all of the corporations that you claim to hate agree with you.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, dude, if you want to read really good stuff right now, because how big Japanese. Japanese anime has got. Right? And then you have that pushback from our side where they're like, they're sexist. Look at these big titty. And the Japanese, like, we do not care. The bigger titties are sick.

[Nerdrotic]

We make titties bigger next time. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And they do. I'm like, God bless the Japanese.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't think the other side's phrasing it quite that way. They're like, look at these sexists with their big titty bitches.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm sure that's what they're saying.

[Nerdrotic]

You are.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, that's crazy. Haven't you seen an underwear vendor store? You can buy underwear from a vending machine.

[Nerdrotic]

Something to be said about a homogeneous society, right?

[Brandon Herrera]

Socialism works in Norway for a reason. What's that about Finland? Tim Waltz.

[Eli Double Tap]

Eli. I'm a ghost.

[Nerdrotic]

What are you doing?

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm here to tell you about Ghost Bed.

[Eli Double Tap]

Is this an ad?

[Chase]

It might be an ad.

[Eli Double Tap]

Why are you in my bedroom?

[Nerdrotic]

I don't know.

[Brandon Herrera]

Scoot over. Let's talk about it.

[Chase]

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[Eli Double Tap]

I don't like this.

[Chase]

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[Eli Double Tap]

I'm uncomfortable.

[Chase]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Why are you doing this to me?

[Donut Operator]

4 mattresses?

[Eli Double Tap]

4.

[Chase]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, shit. Actually, we haven't watched it yet. We need to go as a gang. But you did a. You talked about it. What's the movie with? New movie that just came out. You just reviewed it more.

[Nerdrotic]

Not Joker 2.

[Brandon Herrera]

What is it about?

[Nerdrotic]

Am I racist? That one.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, the Matt Walsh dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Apparently you're like, it's hilarious, dude. Everyone is loving this. It's one I want to watch. I think we should go as a group.

[Nerdrotic]

I think you should.

[Brandon Herrera]

I think my favorite is when Matt Walsh goes on Instagram and Twitter and screenshots and posts the. The Reddit threads of movie theater employees that are trying to sabotage people from watching it. They're like, we purposely, like, we make sure there's a glitch in the machine so people can't buy tickets or like, shit like that. Movie theater employees are genuinely trying to sabotage the movie.

[Nerdrotic]

I'm not surprised.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's a badge of honor, in my opinion.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, and I think he's. He's played it really smart. I mean, like, I've. I've disagreed with him in the past. About gaming and other things and even anime. He's got some pretty horrible takes when it comes to that.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm cur. I'm curious but gaming and anime, what was the. What was the take?

[Nerdrotic]

Oh he has basically it's all demonic and satanic and it could be a troll.

[Brandon Herrera]

Daily Wire, I don't know.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah it's those hard ones where. And this is my favorite part is.

[Nerdrotic]

I think that's a take if it's not a troll.

[Eli Double Tap]

But you don't. You're not act like everyone at this table. Here's the craziest. I think it is, hey, have your own beliefs. We don't care.

[Nerdrotic]

Sure.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like just don't force it on everyone else. And we're.

[Nerdrotic]

It's when you're a political pun. The point of it was like he just basically said they were satanic. And. And what we talk about in our sphere a lot is you don't understand the. The power of the gamer. They get a lot of. They're called incels. They're called this crap. Crap. That's a lot of people who consider themselves gamers and fans and nerds and yeah, it's 55 year old adults sitting in a room surrounded by fucking action figures with no shame to my game whatsoever. And you need to understand that that is a huge part of American society is pop culture and to just go it's just a bunch of incels. It's like that one who came out on Twitter and said gamers are the most unattractive person. It's like well for one chance check your mole and number two, you don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what is a gamer. They have this stereotypical thing and that's the nerds have had and gamers have had to deal with forever. But they have massive power.

[Brandon Herrera]

The lions do not concern themselves with the opinions of the fours.

[Nerdrotic]

Exactly. So you don't have to like it.

[Eli Double Tap]

You a four in good light.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. You're four with my glasses on with 2020 vision. Okay. So they have lots of power but also it's just regular people. There is no specific gamer or nerd. That's. That's the whole point of it. And you don't have to like the. You can think it's satanic. I don't give a. But respect that people like it.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Don't put it. Don't put out mass things like alienating something because you don't like it. And you just put out a mass to hundreds of thousands of people. Where you're like gaming satanic or it's evil or this is how you corrupt choice children. Because I can tell you look at the difference between each one of us and then all of us are nerds at the end of the day. We might play different games, but everyone still is hardcore gaming nerd. Anime, manga, comics, like it doesn't matter.

[Brandon Herrera]

Me and Eli will have a. A detailed business conversation and then immediately after he'll ask me, so how far are you in Red Dead 2?

[Eli Double Tap]

I was just about to say that Brandon's probably at chapter five. Chapter five.

[Brandon Herrera]

I, I am in St. Denis right now. Chugging along.

[Nerdrotic]

Actually. No. Massive gamer me for sure. No, I play like five games in my life. But am I racist? Red Dead's the first Red Dead. I played a lot like that.

[Eli Double Tap]

Red Dead 2.

[Brandon Herrera]

I hated it in the beginning. I took a 5 year break off Red Dead.

[Nerdrotic]

I turned on my PS5 for the first time. I haven't played a game on it, but I plugged, I turned, I hooked it up and turned it on to my home theater. Wow.

[Brandon Herrera]

Can't wait. Watch game.

[Nerdrotic]

Or maybe you're playing game. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

What I call it is my Crunchyroll machine.

[Nerdrotic]

There you go.

[Eli Double Tap]

Because my TV can't have Crunchyroll, so I like plugged it in downstairs.

[Nerdrotic]

Really?

[Eli Double Tap]

This is now Crunchyroll.

[Nerdrotic]

There you go.

[Brandon Herrera]

That just sounds awful.

[Nerdrotic]

Am I racist? Is legit funny and like. And needed, you know, just like, what is a woman? This one has far more impact, at least in on my sphere, because it really does peel back because it's. You would think it goes one way. It's mostly white women. Mostly white women and some greedy black women who he pays. And he shows you how much he pays for these interviews. Some of them are like $50,000. And they don't say.

[Eli Double Tap]

They don't know. They do. They know because he is showing, yes, his perspective.

[Nerdrotic]

He's pretty, he's pretty transparent with like. Well, they don't know he's Matt Walsh. Like one group figures it out and this is where he comes up with his disguise. And I don't want to ruin it for you, but what he, he exposes is the DEI race grift industry, the race extortion industry that's prevalent through our school systems, our government, sports, corporate America. It's poisoned all of it down.

[Eli Double Tap]

And it's not about race as much as anti white.

[Nerdrotic]

It is anti white. So the.

[Brandon Herrera]

There's a celebration of diversity.

[Nerdrotic]

Paraphrase the quote at the beginning from the book. Oh, what's his name. I forgot what his name was. The guy who wrote the book, how to be an anti Racist. A quote from the book is what opens the film, which is the best way to fight past. Oh, what's the term he used the best way to. Basically, the best way to fight. I'm. He used a different word, but I can't remember because I'm old. The best way to fight. Oh, the best way to fight past discrimination is present discrimination.

[Brandon Herrera]

Is it. I'm thinking Michael Moore off the top of my head.

[Nerdrotic]

No, it's a black dude.

[Brandon Herrera]

Because I remember, like, I remember in a foreclosure in Fayetteville, back when I was doing, like, work. That kind of work. I just found a Michael Moore book and I can't remember something about like, just basically hating white people. Just wanting. He's a fat white guy.

[Nerdrotic]

If I looked like him, I'd hate white people too.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's fair enough. Myself, I remember reading through it and like, reading his book because I just found it on the floor in a foreclosure. And like, oh, this is awful. What the.

[Nerdrotic]

He's a. Objectively. And yeah, like, he is. And.

[Brandon Herrera]

And he's still alive, to be frank.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. With that, like, with that help. He was famous for Roger Me back in the 80s, won awards and stuff. And yeah, he got this far being a complete.

[Eli Double Tap]

But they, like, that's one of the. The statements you said. It's like the film opens with that. You have it. Person's like, hey, how do you get rid of racism? You've more racism, apparently.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

But then he breaks down all the behind the scenes of everything where it's like, oh, hey, look. Look how crazy these people are. We'll go with a dinner with him. We'll talk about him at. I mean, multiple occasions. I didn't know he. I wasn't sure how he paid them. I. I know he was like, behind the scenes. He just pretended he was his character. But then they opened up because of that. Right?

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. And it. It was really good at what he does. It's dead pen humor, but it's not really combative. It is. He will just ask a simple. Like, he'll draw him in a little bit. My favorite part is the woman who wrote White Fragility. I'm blanking on her name now too, because I'm getting old. He.

[Eli Double Tap]

The main girl.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, the one at the end. He paid her like 15,000. The one he got to pay reparations to his producer.

[Eli Double Tap]

He.

[Brandon Herrera]

Did you not know that she literally whips out her wallet and pays him money. Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, I want cash to pay reparations. Insanity.

[Nerdrotic]

D'Angelo. I can't remember her name right now. It sucks getting old. But the important part is, right, I.

[Brandon Herrera]

Couldn'T remember Schrodinger's Jew.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Thankfully, Trout did.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, he's got it all. He. He asked her about, like, well, you know, what do I do about mansplaining? And she starts explaining it, and he interrupts her. And mansplains are about mansplaining. And that was hilarious. That that's like. And it's filled with that. And then he also goes to, like, a Southern town, and he goes into a bar with a bunch of fucking bikers and stars and bars. And he talks to a guy who's like, yeah, my dad was a. My dad and my grandpa were in the clan. He's all, but I'm not racist. No, he's all. None of that fell down. He's like, no, I judge a person based off there, based on their individuality, after their character. King said, this guy who's a. Who's a son and a grandson of clan members. So it. And then he goes to other parts. You know, he talks to an immigrant who's got like 57 grandkids, kids, and he's like, no, I love this country. His country is awesome.

[Brandon Herrera]

And MLK would be a radical. Radical right winger today. If you just look at the. The idea. Just on his views back then, like.

[Eli Double Tap]

Based off of like, hey, the idea of.

[Nerdrotic]

He'd be considered. Yeah, yeah, like, just be.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, exactly. He would be considered by the wing.

[Nerdrotic]

Tom.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, excuse me, you. You think we shouldn't judge people at all by the color of their skin, just the content of their. What the hell are you talking about?

[Nerdrotic]

That's racist.

[Brandon Herrera]

Now, what are you thinking about the institutionalized racism, though.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And that's what's crazy. Like, he deep dives into that, as you say. He goes into the deep south. And where you would think you would see racism. Like, I don't give. It's. I don't give a. About that. It is the context of your character. It's like, hey, let me see. Okay. I don't.

[Nerdrotic]

There's way more everyday racism in our big cities than there is in any part of America. You go to middle America, like, well, people don't travel anymore. They just don't. They don't leave the cities. Like, I see. I've saw more racism in San Francisco and I ever saw anywhere.

[Eli Double Tap]

What's that quote by our boy? God Dang it. Why Huckleberry Finn. Son of a.

[Brandon Herrera]

You could just call him Jim.

[Eli Double Tap]

Mark Twain. Holy. But that is like, if you want to defeat racism, it's essentially travel. Like, go out, explore, meet others. That is how you defeat that. And that's what you see is like, oh, when you explore a lot of different areas, urban areas, suburbs or rural. If you get away from the ideology, that's mainstream. And you're like, oh, these people actually have content character. Like, that's why the group of friends I have. I'm not white. I have the best group of friends. And no one. We don't bring up race other than jokes just because it's funny.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, we bring up race a lot, but it's all only in the context of jokes.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, nobody actually thinks less of anybody. Nobody actually, like, nobody has those deep seated resentments anywhere that, like, would make you not talk to someone. Like, that's fucking crazy to me.

[Eli Double Tap]

You want to. Like, if, like, our biggest thing is, like, work hard, be successful, figure out a way to overcome obstacles, you do that. I will praise you till the end of time. I. If your piece of doesn't matter what color your skin, I don't give a. You're just.

[Brandon Herrera]

Except Cody, he wants to fund the police.

[Donut Operator]

Listen, don't get me started on them policemen punching Brandon Backhand. He's been resisting for far too long now.

[Brandon Herrera]

Come on, go for it. It's right there. You know you want to.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's a. You. Like, watching the My friends get online is absolutely ridiculous on Twitter or hearing that back ends, like, racist piece of. I'm like, who? The guys that are highly successful because they just work and they do whatever. Like, that's. They. They might bully on Twitter. I laugh at it. That's great content to me. I'm like, hit, hit, hit, pass. That you guys are working so hard. That's what I appreciate from my friend. Dude, they're killing life.

[Nerdrotic]

They're employing people.

[Eli Double Tap]

It doesn't matter. They're not racist pieces of. They just work hard. They might joke or they're. They offer a different perspective on certain stuff, but it's not based off of races, just based off. No. How you feel.

[Brandon Herrera]

I think we're just in the death throes of that industry. It's like that one company that is basically the. The dei, you know, barometer for video game companies that, like, they come in and they'll help rewrite.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, Sweet Baby Inc. Yeah, thank you.

[Brandon Herrera]

I think we talked about this last time you were on. I don't know, I can't remember. I think we did, but like, yeah, that was, that was exactly it. But like those, those people that just know that this is an industry that enough people care but we need to make sure that we're not, you know, X, Y and Z and like it's just, it's. It's fading out of vogue and I don't think anybody actually genuinely gives a shit.

[Eli Double Tap]

So one of my. Our friends, he didn't realize DEI actually. He just thought it was for race specifically. And then when I told him it was for sex too, he's like, wait, get the out that, that, that sex representation too. It's like, yes, females to males and like all that. And he was like, I did not know that. What the.

[Nerdrotic]

It goes way beyond race.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, he did not know that.

[Nerdrotic]

Anti traditional. What would be deemed as traditional. And we could do air quality quotes on that.

[Eli Double Tap]

But yeah, Chase Blake out the snake also one. He didn't know it was race based. He Or a female, like sex based. He was like, nuh. Because he works in la. He's done the Hollywood thing. Like he's still there actively. He did not know that part. And once he was filled in on that, he was like, get the out these dumb white need stuff.

[Donut Operator]

Is that why they're making all the video game characters like Frumpy and. Yes, like that.

[Nerdrotic]

And they're all floppy Star wars outlaws, which has a Frumpy ma'am solo that we call it is underperforming so much. Ubisoft had to go back like they had board meetings about this. Then there's Concord, you know, I don't play any of this. There was A Concord, bro.

[Eli Double Tap]

$600 million. Sony 600 or 700.

[Nerdrotic]

I don't know.

[Eli Double Tap]

Concord.

[Nerdrotic]

This is 100 million. We'll just say that.

[Eli Double Tap]

Half a billion years. Half a billion dollars. Eight years in the process. Sony releases this and they. They pull it off the shelves in two weeks.

[Nerdrotic]

Two weeks.

[Brandon Herrera]

I've never heard of it.

[Eli Double Tap]

What the. Yeah, 600 million.

[Nerdrotic]

It was supposed to be a Star wars franchise for them.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, because they put like some rappers and into it too.

[Eli Double Tap]

They did so much. $600 million.

[Donut Operator]

It's supposed to $400 million, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

And pulled it off the shelves in two weeks. This is supposed to be an ongoing series. This is like, like Mario or Sonic the Hedgehog.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, because. Well, I think. Well, I think that the ultimate irony is that all the. The DEI industry that it has become is making like racism, sexism, whatever the. It's making it worse. Because like, for me, like, if you put a gay dude in a movie, I don't care. That's not my first thought. Right. But it's the radical overrepresentation where it's like, all right, it's this percent of the population, let's say 2% versus it's 10% of TV shows or movies or whatever. It's like, the only thing I'm thinking about is how it is an industry in Hollywood. And that drives me crazy because I just wanna. I'm not a hater. I want to enjoy. I want to enjoy games, I want to enjoy movies, I want to enjoy TV shows. If there's no. Nothing to hate on, I'm not upset.

[Eli Double Tap]

We talked about Connor last night. I said, it's like, you want to ruin Terminator 2? You want to ruin Alien? Aliens. It is Sarah Connor or Ripley going girl power during the movie. They got perfect female power, strong female character. And you're like, that is a bad name.

[Nerdrotic]

Without literally did that In Dark Fate, they brought Sarah Connor back to become antinatalists. They kill John Connor in the first five minutes. A young version. They go back and tell them and kill him. And then they make Sarah Connor this bitter who thinks that the only reason we carry babies is just for them. It's like, what the. You were like the baddest ass mother on the planet.

[Brandon Herrera]

Which is so garbage.

[Eli Double Tap]

And we never thought about Sarah Connor or anything. It's like, that's a strong female. We're like, character.

[Brandon Herrera]

They earned it. Like, fucking Ripley had Alien. Sarah Connor had Terminator. They had one movie to. We. We saw them adapt, go through trauma, grow, become a badass.

[Eli Double Tap]

And everybody's like, cool, dope ass character.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's awesome.

[Eli Double Tap]

No one argues if you did a female Punisher do that. If you just put like a female Punisher, but made it like Ripley or Sarah Connor and never talked about the female part of it. You're just like, this character went through this and you're like, dude, Female Punisher. You'd be like, okay, it's a side branch. But they don't talk about that. You could live with that. And you'd be like, you know what? That was a dope role. They crushed it.

[Nerdrotic]

But now because it's some becomes such a trope to just gender swap male characters and then make. Make the women just act like dudes. It's actually affecting things that might not be that, like furiosa. Like, you know, I still think it should have had Mad Max in it. I think a Mad Max movie should have Mad Max, specifically when it's called a Mad Max Saga or whatever. But that being said, the movie was good.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was a good movie. But you gotta see on the flip side what happened because everyone's so. Did you watch for Euros?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was good ass.

[Donut Operator]

The prequel to the new Tom Hardy, Mad Max.

[Nerdrotic]

But nobody watched it because nobody wanted to see it. And they were just thought it was going to be more girl boss. Although it wasn't.

[Eli Double Tap]

And everyone's like, and it was a good movie and that's what flopped hard right now. Yeah. And that sucks because that was a good. Like, everyone was like, that was a actually good.

[Nerdrotic]

It was actually good. I tried to save my review. It's still flopped though. Still a big flop. And then, you know, they're, they're doing a little of the Rings War of the Roar here. I'm, I'm the only one who's going to care about this is the movie. So it's, it's from Warner Brothers. So let me give you a little lore on this. Rings of Power got. Got their rights from the Tolkien estate outside of Warner Brothers, who still have the rights to distribute Lord of the Rings and part of the Hobbit, Right? So they can only tell a little bit of the story. Warner Brothers, recognizing that Amazon was up, decided to whip their dick out and go, well, we'll pull from the appendices too, because we can. And we're gonna do War of the Rohirrim. So when I heard it and we're gonna do an anime, I'm like, yeah, let's go. Then they're like, yeah, we're gonna take an unnamed woman from the story and make her the main character. We're like, not again. Which they're doing. So if you see the trailer and you see a girl named Hera, she doesn't have a name, Hera. She. She's mentioned in one sentence. And it's supposed to be the battle of what names Helms Deep. Helms Deep. That's what it's supposed to be about. Like a battle that gives Helms Deep its name. It's about Helm Hammerhand, but now it's about his daughter and not him.

[Brandon Herrera]

So I actually, I saw that trailer when I went to go see a movie a couple days ago. And I'm. I was gonna ask you about it because I was wondering, like, what the is this, is this actual like Lord of the Rings lore? Because I wouldn't know.

[Nerdrotic]

Nope. They had their chance. But it's more like current Day, we've.

[Eli Double Tap]

Talked about this before. It is all anime shows, books, they hand you what to do to be successful. If you just copied that. Yes, we've talked about multiple times. We're like, if you just went like, cowboy Bebop. If they would have just been like, oh, this is an anime that they've got 24 episodes on.

[Donut Operator]

If they would have just taken the animal one for one, one for exactly one for one episode by episode and just did that beautiful formula that they had going for the past 30 years, it would have been cool.

[Brandon Herrera]

And then what's a good movie came out.

[Nerdrotic]

The actress told the fans to fuck off. That. That never works.

[Eli Double Tap]

That works really good.

[Nerdrotic]

Never.

[Eli Double Tap]

What were you saying, bro?

[Brandon Herrera]

What's a good movie that's done that? Like, what's a good example of, like, a movie movie or a TV show?

[Eli Double Tap]

Original Lord of the Rings.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

Original Peter Jackson trilogy takes liberties, but it captures the spirit of the books. The greatest trilogy ever made.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, he. He does his little swabs where it's like, you have from. I mean, they. They skip stuff.

[Brandon Herrera]

What's the, like, all powerful guy that.

[Eli Double Tap]

What's his name? God damn it. Why can I not remember?

[Nerdrotic]

They.

[Eli Double Tap]

Tom Bombadil.

[Nerdrotic]

Tom Bombadil.

[Eli Double Tap]

They were like, okay, and a lot of stuff, but they're like, this doesn't add to the story. And then there's book fans out there.

[Nerdrotic]

Like that put in Tom Bombada. I'm with you. But, like, the books are better. The books are better. But Peter Jackson's trilogy is perfect because it captures the spirit. Like, there's closer adaptation. If you want to do comic book adaptation, not fantasy. Sin City is the greatest adaptation I've ever seen of anything. It's page for page, panel for panel, the comic book.

[Eli Double Tap]

And it did.

[Nerdrotic]

And it. Very good. Oh, so, so good.

[Eli Double Tap]

I haven't watched that. You remember Sin City years ago? Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

Rodriguez, Frank Miller. It's freaking brilliant.

[Eli Double Tap]

Really good.

[Nerdrotic]

You know, Dune did all right.

[Donut Operator]

I was about to say, dude, what do we think about Dune?

[Eli Double Tap]

Dune is the hardest thing because you have directors. That's why it took so long to come to fruition, is because a lot of people are like, yo, this is hard to turn into a movie script and be like, where you can digest it is. It is a undertaking to do that. And now they have these. How they're doing. It's great. Like, they're like, hey, let's build these magnificent sets.

[Nerdrotic]

Let's.

[Eli Double Tap]

Let's have the actors. Let's see how we can make this happen on the big screen. And they, they killed it, in my opinion.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, I like both movies.

[Eli Double Tap]

Cody hates him.

[Donut Operator]

No, they don't know.

[Nerdrotic]

Okay?

[Donut Operator]

They up, Johnny. That's all I'm saying.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, she's die is the worst thing in it for sure. Yeah, like without a doubt.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, they, they almost had the chick. Fucking Wednesday. Oh yeah, I just saw. I sent that to you the other day.

[Nerdrotic]

Jennifer Ortega.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah.

[Donut Operator]

They were about to make her Chinese even though they wrote. No, it would have made it better because they wrote Chani in there as like a vindictive. Where she's like, no, you're taking another bribe. But in the movie, in the book, sorry, in the books, like, Chani stays by his side the entire time. She understands you have to take the emperor's. The emperor's daughter on as a wife because that's gonna make you rule the universe. But I'm still your lover. And they stay together. And he pushes, he pushes, pushes the emperor's daughter to the side. He's like, yeah, go there and do your fucking thing. I'm hanging out with my Chani. But in, you know, in the movie, she's like, I'm so angry. I'm gonna ride off. I'm gonna go do this worm thing now.

[Eli Double Tap]

Me, dude, I love dude. Cody's one thing. He will die on Dune. He homeboy. And you get so fired up about dude. You're like, reads all the books, like, knows the lore to a T. I don't even know the.

[Brandon Herrera]

Isn't it like the next movie is basically the last good one before, like it goes off the rails.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, it goes off the rails here soon.

[Brandon Herrera]

10,000 year time jumps and like that.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, there's, there's. So the next movie that's gonna come out, it's gonna be like probably like a 30 year time jump.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, really?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

I hope they bring back Oscar Isaac. Yeah, he just plays this. The same guy.

[Nerdrotic]

They're bringing back somebody. Spoilers. They bring back a character who's dead.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah. There's a reason for that though.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay.

[Donut Operator]

I can't explain that. No, I know, I know.

[Brandon Herrera]

Or is it.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, okay.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, I can name the race who does it, but I'm not gonna spoil anything.

[Eli Double Tap]

Chase. You might have to that part.

[Nerdrotic]

Or you can just read the book that's 50 years old. Yeah, I'll spoil the shit out of a book.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, I know it's so old. You're like. But people don't read books.

[Donut Operator]

Which by the way, I don't know if. Dude, you Guys know Dune inspired Star Wars. I'm just throwing that out there.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, it did a lot. Dune and then Dune, Saturday morning serials, Lord of the Rings, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon.

[Eli Double Tap]

Before, before, before. What's the first one? Dune, Akira, Kira, Kosawa.

[Nerdrotic]

Oh, Hidden Fortress. Hidden Fortress.

[Eli Double Tap]

There we go.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, that's like. That was hodgepodge hole, dude. I know.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm like, like, what is the oldest representation? It's like, dude, if you want tissue, Kira Kosawa. If you want to see craziness, watch that dude. Do movies in the 1930s, I think to the 60s if I remember right. And he was the first one to do moving camera sweeps, all that stuff. But These are like 8, 000 pound rigs on tracks. This is when it's look and they're moving everything. Having everything move at the same time. And action. You have all like hundreds of people moving or running up and doing the actions. It is crazy. Especially in black and white.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's kind of like those old like the. The Ten Commandments and where like they have a wide shot of Lawrence people in the. The market. There's a thousand people in the market, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Lawrence Arabia is great cinematic master.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes. Like 10 out of 10 film. Film, bro.

[Eli Double Tap]

It guys, you could pull that up in 4k right now because it looks.

[Nerdrotic]

Better because there's a whole video on it on YouTube because how it's filmed, it looks better than any movie made today, really.

[Eli Double Tap]

And this is like, when Was that filmed?

[Nerdrotic]

60S?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

50S, early 60s. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like 58 or 62. Something like the stock of film they used.

[Nerdrotic]

And even like the transfer doesn't do it just justice. Like it still looks better in film, but it's one of the best. It might be the best shot movie of all time, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

It is like, I don't know for sure. When you see the stills from it. You think it is shot today for.

[Nerdrotic]

How high the 4k is pretty good.

[Eli Double Tap]

It is insanity. And then they. What's the one movie where like the drowning scene, people are actually dying? It's one of those old films where it was like when they ride the.

[Brandon Herrera]

Horses on or Two Commandments.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's when they died, right?

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Ten Commandments. People died in that.

[Nerdrotic]

I didn't know that. I was like, that's a long way from like just using real human skeletons in Poltergeist. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Ten Commandments. People were dying on that. The. The. During the.

[Brandon Herrera]

The flooding scene.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, Noah's Ark. People are dying that's been fighting for their lives, like trying to swim up three people Drown.

[Brandon Herrera]

One had to have a leg amputation and almost a dozen suffered broken limbs and other serious injuries.

[Nerdrotic]

That's authentic. Do what?

[Eli Double Tap]

If you watch this, one of the.

[Brandon Herrera]

Extras who survived the flood scene was allegedly John Wayne.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, no, dude, the flood scene is amazing. And now because they're like, action. You see people like pushing people down and you see like a scrap scramble to survive and there's people like drowning each other. To make it out of that scene.

[Donut Operator]

John Wayne killed three of them.

[Brandon Herrera]

What's funny is that this is like an era in policing and detective work where they're like, damn, I wonder how we put this together. And they're like, we have it on film. All right, enough with that high tech nonsense. Yeah, the idea of having video of.

[Eli Double Tap]

It is like, Yeah, I love OG filming. But like you have the 70s version or 8 80s version of Dune and then the proper version.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, well, they had the 80s version, then they had the early, early 2000.

[Nerdrotic]

2000. Yeah, the series.

[Donut Operator]

2000 series on sci fi which followed the book.

[Nerdrotic]

More. I liked it. It was fine. It was cheap, but it was fine.

[Donut Operator]

I didn't know it was like a sci fi series that they had.

[Brandon Herrera]

Sci fi originals.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, sci fi original. Something they had out there for a while.

[Eli Double Tap]

Never heard of this.

[Brandon Herrera]

I remember watching sci fi originals when I was a kid.

[Nerdrotic]

Like.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like Minotaur the movie and like that where it's like B movies, but it was so violent and gory. I was like, oh, this is awesome.

[Donut Operator]

They almost showed a titty in them.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, the chicks were hot too. That helped.

[Brandon Herrera]

TV, 14 titty.

[Nerdrotic]

But I wasn't when those came out, I was like a full grown adult and I was still watching. We were teenagers.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon wasn't born yet. Them titties on CBS or whatever channel it is, TNT at the that time, you're like, yeah, dude, I love that.

[Donut Operator]

Princess Iran side boob. Dude, it was so good when I was in high school.

[Eli Double Tap]

So highly specific.

[Brandon Herrera]

When DVR came out, that got paused a lot.

[Donut Operator]

Y that TiVo, dude.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, TiVo. Holy.

[Eli Double Tap]

So Cody's is. What is your favorite book series? Do you read? Actually, that's it. We have Dune. You. I know. Like Star Wars More than Lord of the Rings. Correct.

[Nerdrotic]

No, I like Lord.

[Eli Double Tap]

Lord of the Rings is your Star Wars. My bad, I couldn't remember. So that's your peak. And then have you read Name of the Wind or any of the.

[Nerdrotic]

No, I. Conan would be second. Robert E. Howard's Conan.

[Eli Double Tap]

If you want to do yourself a favor. Name of the Wind.

[Nerdrotic]

Okay, I'LL check it out.

[Eli Double Tap]

I promise. You will read that and be like, Eli.

[Nerdrotic]

Thank you.

[Eli Double Tap]

This is why isn't released book three yet.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yet.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's been 12 years.

[Nerdrotic]

Well, I. I like Fire.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, I. I like that book series a lot, too.

[Brandon Herrera]

All right, that. Right now, is that. Is that book ever coming out?

[Nerdrotic]

No.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

I'm saying George just put up a blog post. That sounds grim.

[Eli Double Tap]

Easy Dying soon.

[Nerdrotic]

It sounds like he's kind of given up. It's like he's. He's. Something happened with HBO with this series behind the scenes that he's pissed at him now. There's still more shows coming out, but it seems like it kind of like all the gas is out of his tank right now. We listen. He was alone in a cabin at Covet and couldn't finish. And he's been writing the book for 13 years, so now it's not going to finish.

[Brandon Herrera]

And there's also, like, side projects and.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, he's just distracted. Like, he just needs to be honest with people and say, I can't finish it and then hire a ghostwriter. Nobody will care. I won't care. I'd rather have it finished than not finished at all.

[Eli Double Tap]

As a Patrick Rothus for Name of the Wind, it sucks because those. He's only done two books and then a side story. But those two books. His first book he released in 2008, and then it took 2012 or 13 for the second book. And we're waiting for the third book at this point. The first book, he was a national bestseller. George R.R. martin was like, hey, this is the best. Best author I have ever read in my life, period. So he was like, acolytes just shot through the roof. Second book everyone praised even higher than the first book. And he was like, cool. And he just is like, I was almost done, and then I hated it, so I deleted it and I restarted from the beginning. Wow. We're. We're 12 years into book three, and it's the final, and everyone's like, bro, just finish the.

[Nerdrotic]

How old is he? He's not in his 70s. Okay. He's good.

[Eli Double Tap]

Read the book series, though. Like, everyone will swear by that series as some of the greatest writing you'll ever see. And you read it and you're like, holy. Here's 900 pages. Here's 1400 pages. And they are.

[Brandon Herrera]

If we can go back to Game of Thrones for a second. The thing that pisses me off about that book specifically is that he had the best case study you could ever have. For an ending period where the fan base reacted to a massively popular TV show and he goes, all right, don't do that. You could literally just take your fucking pick of any of the Reddit fan fiction on the Internet.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

And just build your book around that. Around some of the more popular theories of what they wanted to happen. And you can't go wrong.

[Eli Double Tap]

I love that idea where you're like, delete, delete. Okay, we're changing everything that we just seen didn't work for Game of Thrones.

[Brandon Herrera]

Who knows? He might be like a Stephen King kind of guy where he can't end a fun. He can't end a book.

[Nerdrotic]

Yep.

[Brandon Herrera]

Where he can come up with intriguing settings and read his other work.

[Nerdrotic]

He's not child or happy endings or good endings or, like, he's a TV writer. And I would say, like, a lot of his stories are very Twilight Zone ish. They have a morality tale. They end pretty dark. Somebody usually dies. And, like, that's the ending we saw in Game of Thrones Season 8. That's the ending. Like, Bran will be king, Daenerys will be dead, and Jon will be beyond the wall. I think those three things are absolutely gonna happen. Now, how they got there completely different. Because half. Some of the people they showed are dead in the book Summer people are still alive. They completely. There's other giant storylines.

[Brandon Herrera]

They just like the zombie mom and things like that. Lady Stoneheart.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. Lady Stoneheart is a huge. I think ladies. Personally, my theory is Lady Stoneheart has something to do with the resurrection of John. So why people are really frustrated is good arc. Actually a Dance with Dragons ends with Jonathan bleeding out at Castle Black. So it's when he gets. When he gets the assassination attempt and he's just dying. That's where the book ended. We know where the show went, but with the book, he's still bleeding. Daenerys flew out of Marine, and she is, like, half naked with Drogon surrounded by Dothraki. And that's where we've been sitting for 13 years, waiting for something to happen. In the meantime, he's written a couple of other books, started a bunch of shows, written a bunch of blog posts, including the Giants. It's like, finish the fucking book, dude. Like. Or at least tell your fans who deserve this kind of an answer, like, yeah, I'm not gonna finish. Because, yeah, a lot of people got invested in it. So when you start a fantasy series and you go, this is gonna be one of seven books, that's your promise to the fans. Then you do owe them something because they made you really rich, so you at least owe them honesty. I'm not saying you don't owe.

[Brandon Herrera]

You don't even owe them a time frame.

[Nerdrotic]

No, you.

[Brandon Herrera]

But if you say you're going to do something and then you don't do it, that's pretty aggravating.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Follow through. That's why, like, you, the biggest thing. You never make a promise you can't fulfill.

[Nerdrotic]

Yep.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, what?

[Nerdrotic]

God.

[Brandon Herrera]

Imagine if he's got a fucking. Not a. He's got a gag order with HBO where he can't go against their ending.

[Eli Double Tap]

That would be crazy.

[Nerdrotic]

I hope he didn't sign that either. Well, maybe he changed his ending completely. Maybe he took notes and just scrapped the book. I don't. I don't know.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's just a random conspiracy theory I came up with now.

[Eli Double Tap]

But that dude anime writer, so God dang it. Hunter X Hunter author. I forget his name. So what he did, he was like, hey, just in case I die, here's the three endings or four endings that I came up with. He just. So if he died because anime artists die, manga artists die.

[Nerdrotic]

Well, yeah, because they work themselves to death. So.

[Eli Double Tap]

And so he released four endings. Like, hey, this is one of the four endings just in case I die. But it's like, I will fulfill that storyline to get there. Just not telling you how we get there. So just in case I die, but there's your ending. Good to go. And everyone's like, okay, cool. And then it takes a year for him to release like a few chapters. Everyone's like, God damn it, dude, release more chapter. George R.R. martin. Perfect example of taking goddamn forever to release anything. And you know it's going to be better than what is shoveled out for.

[Nerdrotic]

Much better.

[Eli Double Tap]

It'll be much better because, I mean, just everything just fell apart so fast. You have the. What are the brothers that wrote at DND? D&D. Yeah, Dan and Dan and Dave. Dan and Dave.

[Brandon Herrera]

Are they brothers?

[Eli Double Tap]

No, not brothers. They're. Sorry, that's my bad. DND that when they've. They've said, oh, well, we want to cater towards NFL crowd and moms.

[Nerdrotic]

Mm.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's how we're writing the last few seasons.

[Nerdrotic]

And that's what they. Spectacle. They went in the spectacle and they got away from. Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

You asked about their faces right now. This is on camera themselves saying, yeah, they're like, we want to cater to.

[Nerdrotic]

They also said themes are for 8th grade book reports. And they're also didn't want to do the magic. They also chose not to use Lady Stoneheart. But the reason, you know, you asked for a good adaptation. The first four seasons of Game of Thrones are great adaptation of the books.

[Brandon Herrera]

You know what that reminds me of? That reminds me of, like the conspiracy theory that I'll be damned if I don't, you know, somewhat believe that next year the Chiefs are going to win the super bowl with Travis Kelce still dating Taylor Swift, they're going to propose on the field and then nine months later announce a baby which is going to cause birth rates to increase within the United States and prepare the next generation for World War 3.

[Eli Double Tap]

I hope this happens because then we can document UNSUB as predicting future like the Simpsons. Unsub goes into history. Brandon Herrera is not my theory.

[Brandon Herrera]

I just read it and I was like, fuck.

[Nerdrotic]

It's believers. Believable at this point.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was that idea. So I see where you're coming from. It is the idea of how Jon Snow got positioned at the. The Wall. So you had, right before that scene, the. The Dothraki and the. What are the other. The hard fighters.

[Brandon Herrera]

This something less.

[Eli Double Tap]

The dickless guys.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, not dick. Oh, they are dickless. There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Unsullied. So when they. Jon Snow walks up, they're just murdering people that went against the queen.

[Brandon Herrera]

They're like, at the very last episode.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And John. John's like, hey, what are you doing? He's like, they went against the queen and they're just murdering him. He kills the queen and they're like, let's bring him to. Let's bring him to trial.

[Nerdrotic]

Let's bring him justice.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, let's bring him to justice. And then the people that never came from Westeros are like, we send him to the Wall. They don't know what the fucking.

[Nerdrotic]

They don't know what a wall is.

[Eli Double Tap]

They have no idea what that punishment is.

[Nerdrotic]

And they're like, Tyrion basically. Picking the king was. I mean, he was a prisoner at that time. It was so stupid. Everything about it was stupid.

[Donut Operator]

Anyways. Stephen King is a Stephen King.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Cody hates like you ratio Stephen King. So I saw that.

[Nerdrotic]

I saw you. I saw you do that. I like, he said something or something you said you wrote an orgy scene with 13 year olds. You freak or something like that.

[Brandon Herrera]

I say that well because it's the whole thing. He does it all the time. And like back in the 80s and 90s, it wasn't as much of an eyebrow raise as it is now, I guess, but it's like, stephen, why do we really need this underage sex scene? This is a, this is a non fiction book about something where that didn't happen.

[Donut Operator]

No, I'm Stephen King.

[Brandon Herrera]

Listen, I can do anything I want.

[Nerdrotic]

You're like, he was better when he was coked up.

[Brandon Herrera]

Did you write the Mist? I did.

[Donut Operator]

I'm not hating on his other work, man. I love a lot of his horror stuff, but damn, did he have to write that scene in there? That means a fiction writer sitting in his room late at night, coked up, and he thought, man, what if these kids each other?

[Nerdrotic]

It's a great idea.

[Brandon Herrera]

All of these underage boys. This underage girl, in great detail ran.

[Nerdrotic]

A freight train right through her. Let's go.

[Eli Double Tap]

I, I, I Trout, we talked about this yesterday. I did the. No, not that. The. Not that. Okay, let's rewind. Okay. Ch like boom. What are we talking about?

[Chase]

Antisemitism.

[Donut Operator]

They go together.

[Nerdrotic]

I, we all have our areas of expertise.

[Eli Double Tap]

Trout went on a date at Stalker and I sent a photo apparently like a week or two ago. Didn't remember that. But then I photoshopped your date and you looking at the screen going like this, the screen's here. So I was like, oh, oh, no. And I just put fucking. I hate when you type in gay on Google. No girls come up. It's just dudes. Dudes.

[Nerdrotic]

I was like, well, yeah, well, it's, it's based on, based on your previous searches in Sailor Bay.

[Eli Double Tap]

Google's not. So I'm like, gay. First image, pop. I'm like, okay, well, we're saving. That was like, please, Savannah, do not walk up on this. I'm gonna Photoshop this real fast. Send it to Trout.

[Brandon Herrera]

Nobody ever looked through Stephen King's or Eli's browser, ever.

[Eli Double Tap]

Trout and his date took four hours to realize what was on the screen. Because I always feel if you do proper Photoshop, they don't know what is Photoshopped. Wait, he's pulling it up, right?

[Brandon Herrera]

I gotta see this nose.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

It was blended that well that you had no idea.

[Eli Double Tap]

What did you say? What was your response to it? You were like, that's weird. Eli sent that.

[Chase]

I texted. Well, I texted her and I was like, hey, it's kind of weird that Eli sent that picture. He just sent us the other week again. And then like, we're, we just moved on with the conversation. And like, yeah, like three, four hours later, she's like, oh, my God, did you see the fucking screen?

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, God.

[Eli Double Tap]

Again. Four hours to get to that. I was Proud of that one.

[Nerdrotic]

I thought you were just being weird.

[Brandon Herrera]

I said four hours.

[Eli Double Tap]

They didn't respond for four.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, I thought you said you spent four hours working on it.

[Eli Double Tap]

If that's four hours.

[Nerdrotic]

Growing up in the meme, Lou, I.

[Eli Double Tap]

Guess I was just hoping. I was, like, sad. Going to walk in on me being like. Just on the gay part.

[Brandon Herrera]

She's going to be like, babe, not again.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'd be like, I promise next time I'll stop. So I was like, cut, cut.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is the last time I'm working on something.

[Donut Operator]

Why do they look like Brandon and Cody?

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, the first response is, is that you and Cody on the screen.

[Brandon Herrera]

My goals are beyond your understanding.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was like, hey, hey. Really good Photoshop, though.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, really good Photoshop. That's not a real picture at all.

[Eli Double Tap]

Grab my hand.

[Donut Operator]

All right, one more time. Last time.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's what it looked like.

[Brandon Herrera]

Got it.

[Nerdrotic]

I don't know what gear the White Claw or that. I don't know.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dear God.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was like, this is great. We're going to do this from now on.

[Nerdrotic]

Okay.

[Eli Double Tap]

So what. What next projects are you working on? Oh, actually, you're gonna be on. You might be coming to Pepperbox.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, that's a huge thing.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

You don't have to. This is.

[Nerdrotic]

No, it's not. No.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, I did not.

[Nerdrotic]

I dragged my feet on stuff. You actually told me about it before, but hell yeah, I'm gonna be coming on Pepperbox in a month or two, hopefully. And yeah, the. The next project is getting through the rings of power, and then it's kind of quiet for the rest of the year as far as, you know, like Gladiator 2, but shitty TV is kind of done.

[Eli Double Tap]

I forgot they're making a second one.

[Donut Operator]

I couldn't imagine Gladiator your job having to get through the rings of power because you watch them from start to finish.

[Nerdrotic]

Yep.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm sure cw out something before the end of the year.

[Nerdrotic]

They'll be. They'll be. There's a Venom movie. There's like a couple superhero movies coming out.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

And then Captain African American in February. But I hope they. The rest of this year is kind of chilling. Going on vacation.

[Brandon Herrera]

Are you also upset that Bucky didn't get the shield?

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, because they. Absolutely. That's what it was supposed. Narratively, that's what was supposed to happen. That's what happens in the comic books.

[Brandon Herrera]

Me and my girl actually recently just went through the entire MCU again. Again, like, just re. Watching the movies in the timeline order. There's Like a movie. I skip here or there because I just don't care to watch it again. But watching all the little subtle hints that they make that Bucky is going to get the shield.

[Nerdrotic]

Bucky is the linchpin for everything that happens up to Infinity War. Not all the Civil War stuff. It's all over Bucky.

[Brandon Herrera]

Not that I don't like Sam. Like, he's a great character as Falcon.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

But, like, it was just. It was such a rug pull because, like, Bucky's, like, canonically supposed to get the shield. They make, like. They make nods to it all throughout the entire mcu. And then it goes to Falcon. I'm like, what the.

[Nerdrotic]

Here's the underlying bigotry of. I don't. I don't know if low expectations is kind of the right term, but I'm gonna use it anyway. You have Sam Wilson, who is a black superhero, who is Marvel's second black superhero after Black Panther. A. A seminal character.

[Brandon Herrera]

Second or. I thought he's first.

[Nerdrotic]

Second. He's the second Black Panther was first.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, you mean in the comics.

[Nerdrotic]

In the comics.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay, got it.

[Nerdrotic]

So he is the second black superhero that Marvel had that people had to follow. They made Amigo of them when I was a kid. I remember having my. My Falcon. So pretty seminal character.

[Brandon Herrera]

And I like him in the movie.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, he's great. He's. If he was leading the Avengers as Falcon, nobody have a problem. But you have to to make them. For one. It's such a cheap way to do it, but you're giving basically the black person, the white person's hand me downs. And this. I'm taking this from Eric July, my friend Eric July. So you're giving the black person the white person's hand me downs because the white person's more legitimate. Because that costume is more legitimate when Falcon is a legitimate character on his own. And if you want to make them better, do what they did with Iron man was never an A list character in the Marvel Comics comics.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, no, he was secondary for.

[Nerdrotic]

But he's a list now because they made him into an A list character. You can do the same thing with.

[Brandon Herrera]

Falcon, but if they made Falcon lead the Avengers right now as Falcon, I don't think anybody have a fucking problem. Because he's been there since, what?

[Nerdrotic]

Not at all.

[Brandon Herrera]

Inner soldier.

[Nerdrotic]

Not like it would be better having putting him in this hybrid Falcon. He looks like a fucking downhill skier.

[Brandon Herrera]

And, like, he looks like Frozone from the Incredibles.

[Nerdrotic]

He does. And then, like, if you want to think about it. Like, if I was drawing the comic, I'd go, well, how does this work that a guy with no powers is wielding a shield with wings? What if he throws the shield and eclipse one of his wings and he's got no power and he dies in a plane crash? Like, and he's not a super soldier, so he doesn't. He shouldn't.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's a human. That's the craziest part.

[Nerdrotic]

He is a regular human. He can get broken pretty easily. You know, Bucky superpowers. He's got a super. And the arm, you know, look, this dude's normal.

[Eli Double Tap]

Though as you're saying it is that, hey, we have to make him Captain America for whatever reason. Instead of, hey, like, we can just.

[Nerdrotic]

No, it was black man. As Captain America. Let's pick that Falcon that. What's the black one? That's not called black something Falcon. We'll do that.

[Brandon Herrera]

And they built it up. Bucky is literally the equivalent of Captain America. They're both the same fucking age. They grew up together. They both have super human serum. Like all that. It's. It's the same picture. And they built it up. They nodded to it throughout the. And then they had story of redemption.

[Nerdrotic]

Because he was used as a sleeper soldier assassinating Americans and all this. And for him to take the mantle, like it meant something. Yeah, Sam just like, hey, you know, he was hanging around as like their little buddy and then he just gets promoted. Why not? Because he's powerful. He's not like particularly smart strategy. He might be a good leader if you show that later. But he doesn't have any money. And Falcon and Winter Soldier, he gets denied a bank loan.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. And then he gets.

[Nerdrotic]

He does. There's a scene where because he's black, he gets denied a bank loan to buy a boat because it's.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah. For a secondary business.

[Nerdrotic]

He doesn't know, you know, Pepper pot. He doesn't know, you know. He didn't know Tony Stark. Stark who was dead at the time. He doesn't know a few people that are probably really rich.

[Brandon Herrera]

Despite being a Avenger.

[Nerdrotic]

Despite being an Avenger.

[Eli Double Tap]

Holy. I forgot about that.

[Brandon Herrera]

David hall can get into fucking Harvard. Yeah. Falcon can get a loan for a boat.

[Eli Double Tap]

I forgot about that entire sequence where it's like he was an Avenger. He fought along all these people and then he can't afford a boat because they black.

[Nerdrotic]

You can't get a bank loan.

[Donut Operator]

That's the equivalent to being like a pop star at that. That like in that universe, right? Yeah, you're one of the most famous people on earth.

[Eli Double Tap]

Do a YouTube video that will pay for every bill. You, dude, go fund me.

[Nerdrotic]

Like, everybody paying for everybody every bill. Like, hey, I saved your ass.

[Brandon Herrera]

And it's not just like having a medal of honor or something like that. Like in the like Spider man movies, as soon as Tony Stark dies, like, there's murals everywhere of Iron Man. Like, it's a very public site.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, these are the heroes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, dude, I forgot about that. I. And then. Yes. He just handed the shield and you're like, yep, brother.

[Donut Operator]

So what you're saying is the Marvel universe is pushing black man down.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes, they are.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, they wouldn't let him get a fucking boat.

[Nerdrotic]

They will let him get a boat. And they had to like hand him a costume of a character. He doesn't even fit the power sec for just because they wanted to have a black Captain America. And if that's your only reason of doing it, then that's kind of fucking racist. If you think about it for just a half a second, you could have.

[Eli Double Tap]

Had a very powerful movie. And that's the best side is it's not the approach of like, well, that's racist today. That it's like, no, it's more racist to feel that is how you make that movie happen. Versus hey, look, watch. We can do a movie separate build. This guy's like a falcon movie.

[Nerdrotic]

Make. They did a Falcon series. Do a. Yeah, make a Falcon movie. That's all you need to do.

[Brandon Herrera]

I. While I didn't really like the writing for that show, I do like the banter between Bucky and Falcon. Yeah, I think they are very funny, like, together.

[Nerdrotic]

So here's the racism. Why not just make a solo Falcon movie with a black star? Well, the reason is they know it wouldn't sell and they don't want to put the investment in it to make it. So. Which would be good writing. It's much easier. Hey, let's put Captain America's clothes on him. Him on the black person. And that'll sell the movie. I mean, think about that a little bit. If they were really about this, they would take Falcon. They would put the top notch writer, a top notch director and make a Falcon movie.

[Eli Double Tap]

And it would sell. What is the dumbest part?

[Nerdrotic]

Fans would have no problem with this.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, like, everyone would love that approach. We've talked about it multiple times. It's like, hey, why? Why cater or force this audience versus.

[Nerdrotic]

Hey, how can you tell me a Falcon show or movie wouldn't sell but you're making Agatha all along. Like, yeah, Are you kidding me?

[Brandon Herrera]

Spending the same money on a TV show for something nobody wanted.

[Eli Double Tap]

Panther was a great example of like, look how good that did. And it wasn't creating a new thing. It was like, hey, like black.

[Brandon Herrera]

Of course not. They took the plot.

[Nerdrotic]

Established. Established character. Took the plot for Lion King. No established character.

[Brandon Herrera]

It is 100. As soon as you realize that Black Panther is the Lion King with Michael B. Jordan. Jordan. It's kind of great.

[Nerdrotic]

It's a. It's a super mid movie. But like, at least it was a. Like it was a character that I read when I was a kid and I liked a lot.

[Brandon Herrera]

I, I actually, I liked it a lot more the second time I watched it.

[Nerdrotic]

I, I thought. I think the CG is dog.

[Eli Double Tap]

It is.

[Nerdrotic]

But it's. At least it has a good villain. And Chadwick Boseman was a really good. Black Panther is the best version of it since Civil War. But he was a really fun. And they should have recast him. Instead. They exploited his death and didn't put Black Panther in the Black Panther. Well, the Black Panther wasn't in the Black Panther sequel, but they made him a skinny little girl at the end of the movie. It was such. It was such a bait and switch and terrible. And it pissed off all the Black Panther fans. They're like, we should they one. Chadwick Boseman wanted them to.

[Brandon Herrera]

I never saw the second.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, don't.

[Eli Double Tap]

Don't. Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

Wakanda forever. It's.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

They destroy it. Well, not only Black Panther, they destroyed story. Namor. Namor is so dumb in that movie.

[Eli Double Tap]

They got rid of.

[Nerdrotic]

He's more.

[Brandon Herrera]

Who is it?

[Nerdrotic]

He's Namor. He's. They make Prince Neymar who. Like, if you look at him in the comics, like, if you're gonna say if he's another race, probably Asian, that'd be. Probably my guess is Asian. They make him into like a Mayan God, but he's a mutant and they can't say submariner, so they call him Namor. And it's. It's. I can't really express how not the character it is. It's so bad. And it was done for identity politics.

[Donut Operator]

That was his new name. It's not his dead name. Don't say his dead name.

[Brandon Herrera]

I can't. Dear God.

[Nerdrotic]

That's true. I shouldn't be dead naming you Namor. I'm a bigot.

[Eli Double Tap]

So. Because he went through. That's the one. He died before that one was released. Store like halfway through filming or like at the beginning.

[Nerdrotic]

No, he died.

[Brandon Herrera]

He died before.

[Nerdrotic]

He died before or before. It was like he was. He was dying when he filmed Endgame. His scenes for Endgame.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Which also shout out to that dude because that is holy. Yeah, he did it. Never said a goddamn thing.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, I didn't even know he was sick.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Literally, it was. It was that and then passed and everyone was like, holy. He went through all this without saying a thing. And then that got him more respect for all the roles he did leading up to that. And then you have that turd that fell right after and you're like, my guy. This is an easy layup at this point.

[Donut Operator]

Well, there's like filming our little things that we do. You know, we'll. We'll do like two, three day film days and we're like, we're wrecked. That dude went through that whole movie, like, dying of cancer and just held up as a champ.

[Brandon Herrera]

Which explains why, like, his. His bit was short, like, outside of the CG suit and everything, but still, like, colon cancer is very aggressive from my understanding. Like, that's one of those, like, you find out you have it and you die.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. That's what killed my dad. So it's brutal. It's brutal to watch. So, like, he had major balls for, like, the way he went about it and stuff.

[Eli Double Tap]

Never announced it too, like.

[Nerdrotic]

No.

[Eli Double Tap]

And that's what's crazy. You have different. And if you announce you have cancer, you'll never get, like, pushed back on, like, from anyone.

[Brandon Herrera]

Unless you're boogie.

[Eli Double Tap]

Unless you're buggy.

[Nerdrotic]

Unless you're buggy.

[Eli Double Tap]

That is a very good example. That is how you don't announce it. But if you're like, filming stolen cancer. Yeah. Literally stolen cancer. And then get a fake tattoo this.

[Nerdrotic]

Month, you get a fake tattoo. My mom used to twist my tipples. You see, That's a great clip. No, my. My good friend Mahler from EFAP has a nice long video about the lore of boogie that you need to. They did a great episode on it. I've never watched a second of boogie content outside of the low podcast.

[Brandon Herrera]

Same. Yeah, I did want to ask though, like, what your opinion was because, like, I have mixed feelings about it. I had a. I had a. I had an opinion when it was first announced and now I'm like, kind of second guessing it. Your thoughts on RDJ being the new doctor, because that is.

[Nerdrotic]

That's. It was. It probably was shocking to me. I was told this like, three or four months before it came. Came Like I. It went on. Yeah, I was. You knew before I knew.

[Brandon Herrera]

You didn't tell us. You. You.

[Nerdrotic]

I kept secret.

[Eli Double Tap]

This guy keeps secrets like a big studios.

[Brandon Herrera]

If you still talk to him.

[Nerdrotic]

Business. Prison. Caught me. Taught me a couple things.

[Brandon Herrera]

You can trust him.

[Nerdrotic]

Don't bend over for the soap.

[Brandon Herrera]

He ain't no snitch.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, so I. Yeah, I found out about it. There's some other things I found out that. That I can't say. But yeah, so I knew.

[Brandon Herrera]

Can you tell us after? Because I really.

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah, I can tell you when we're off there. Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely. So the like details about like what's behind this and all this, like the whole. I think some of the details got out. Like they. They bought a house to have the meeting with Robert Downey Jr. In. So they can have it just completely outside of any other. So they can try to keep it as secret as possible. I thought they weren't going to say anything. It was supposed to be a surprise in a Stinger after the Fantastic Four. That's what it was supposed to be, a surprise. I don't even know if I should be saying that, but whatever. So, yes, he's going to show up at the end of Fantastic Four.

[Brandon Herrera]

Fantastic Four is showing up.

[Nerdrotic]

Yes. Or excuse me, that he's not in the Fantastic Four. Right. There's. There's pieces of him. There's pieces of it. So it's at the Stinger. It's at the end credit scene. That's where he. He's going to show up. So, yeah, I found this out months ago and I'm like. And I was asked like, what are people going to think? I'm like, they're going to go nuts. But I think ultimately it's a ballsy decision because you don't bring him back as Iron man, which would be dumb at this point. Although they should have never killed. Killing Iron man was dumb. Was just dumb.

[Brandon Herrera]

Really?

[Nerdrotic]

Yeah. I think it's terrible idea.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think if they closed it off as a whole and there's somebody right.

[Nerdrotic]

Out for of the sunset. You don't have to like, for one, heroes don't die. They always get brought back to life. But like, I am of the belief that you need to continue making Iron man movies. It's not Robert Downey. Jo Jr. Owns the role. Sean Connory owned the role of James Bond. But guess what? You needed to have Roger Moore afterwards. You need to recast it. That's what I say. And it's not going to be as good. That's Fine.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, I feel, I feel like they softly did that through Spider Man. Yes, through like the, the whole like, oh, we need to like the next Iron man. Like, because that becomes like a thread through the Spider man movies as he feels like he has to be the next Iron Man.

[Nerdrotic]

I think the future of cinematic universes will be one off things where you recast the main character and like, it won't be like James Bond. It won't be clearly defined canon. But it's all the same story that are just individual movies. That's how it works. It's worked for James Bond because I.

[Eli Double Tap]

Can see both sides. Like, whereas like Brandon, as you're saying, I feel like if you have RDJ die, you're like, okay, hey, like conclude that story.

[Brandon Herrera]

RDJ didn't, but Iron Man, Iron man did.

[Nerdrotic]

RDJ came back because the way they're going to present it is he is Victor Von Doom and he is going to be a variant and he's. They're gonna use the guy who saved the universe and this is Victor Von Doom's gonna be the one who destroys it. Because Fantastic Four is in a different.

[Eli Double Tap]

Universe which also if you like, Dr. Doom is the one dude that has the. He's the only one that can actually pull together in his vision how to not have the end of mankind happen. And one of the com. I forget which one it is. He is the only one that knows and predicts the future is like, hey.

[Nerdrotic]

This is how mankind Dr. Doom is the perfect for. Those are normies. He's basically. He's melded science and magic. That's. He's melds the two together gangster. The best Marvel villain, period. Like end of story. Better than Thanos, better than Galactus, better than everything's Dr. Doom. So that's when that was announced. What, what they needed. It did what it needed to do though, because it stopped. It got people interested in Marvel like, what. Whatever side you were on, you weren't going, man. It's another stupid woke intersectional Marvel movie. It's holy shit. Robert Downey Jr. Is coming back and they're bringing back the Russo brothers to direct. So it was a clear like, we fucked up. We're going to try to fix it the best way we can. It's probably. It doesn't do for Legacy like this doesn't fix problems down the road because Robert Downey Jr. Is fucking old. And it is a risk because you like, he's not going to play Doctor Doom forever and you're going to have to actually recast Dr. Doom at some point to get us a proper Dr. Doom. But for the time being, I don't.

[Brandon Herrera]

Feel like RDJ is too old to be a proper Dr. Doom, though.

[Eli Double Tap]

I mean, he's fee.

[Nerdrotic]

He's supposed to be a contemporary of Reed Richards. Reed Richards is old too, though. Like, Pedro's like, not as old as Robert Downey Jr.

[Eli Double Tap]

But he ain't young is Robert Downey Jr.

[Nerdrotic]

He's in his 60s.

[Brandon Herrera]

Is he really?

[Nerdrotic]

Yep.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Yeah. And then how many years it takes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Pictures of him where it was like, lack of Iron man.

[Eli Double Tap]

Because he does it.

[Nerdrotic]

He's Pedro's like 45, but they're supposed to be contemporary.

[Brandon Herrera]

I do like, oh, God, I will. I will. 59. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's insane.

[Nerdrotic]

I'll die four years older than me.

[Brandon Herrera]

I. The. I don't think there would have had nearly the emotional impact there that was expected out of Endgame if he didn't die. I loved that. So as somebody who, like, Iron man was like my first entry to the mcu, like, that was. I remember watching it in theaters and like, that was my first superhero that I was like, oh, this is cool as shit. When he died during Endgame, like, that was actually fucking emotional for me. Like, it's kind of gay, like, to get attached to like a fucking, you know, comic book character.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're looking at what, almost. Yeah, 15 years at that point.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, it was over 10 years of my life that, like, looking up to this guy is like, okay, he was a. A weapons dealer, you know, super smart engineering guy. Like, solved all his problems through this.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, we talk about Brandon or rdj.

[Brandon Herrera]

Or we're talking about Iron Man.

[Nerdrotic]

Are we explaining. Handsome guy, almost won an election, pretty big YouTube channel.

[Brandon Herrera]

You can see why I'm like, I identify with this quite a lot back in the day. But I was like, but the problem.

[Nerdrotic]

Is, like, then you're. You're stuck with. If you're going to bring Iron man back, you have to do some finagling and some stupid shit, which they do in the comics is terrible. Listen, they've killed Iron man in the comics before and they've gone back in time and brought a younger version back.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm just glad they didn't. They're. They've decided it was a bad idea to go through the. The higher Iron Heart direction because, dear God, I was not looking forward to.

[Nerdrotic]

Iron Heart comes out next year.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, they've delayed it so many times.

[Nerdrotic]

They have. So it's actually been completed for two years.

[Eli Double Tap]

Me and Cody are looking at you like what's iron.

[Nerdrotic]

What's Iron Heart? It is a black female Iron man to the point where they rely on the comics and they called it Iron Man. They called the comic Iron man after they killed Tony Stark. Was God, 2016, 17. Tony Stark died, or he died in Captain Marvel's fault.

[Brandon Herrera]

It was 2020, I think, right?

[Nerdrotic]

It was 2020. Was it 29?

[Brandon Herrera]

It was 2019.

[Nerdrotic]

Because it was right before 2019. Okay, yeah. In the movies, in the comic books.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, I'm sorry, sorry.

[Nerdrotic]

In the comic books it was, I think 2016. Maybe sooner. Doesn't matter. So they bring in ironheart, who's a 15 year old. Riri Williams is a black girl who's smarter, smarter than Reed Richards, smarter than Shuri, smarter than Tony Stark, who's dead.

[Brandon Herrera]

Course.

[Nerdrotic]

And they still called it Iron Man So they can sell it as Iron man, but he was just an AI in her head while riri Williams steals his. His glory. And that didn't last long. So they created Iron Heart. And that allows that horrible costume you saw in Wakanda forever, which you didn't see. That's what it is. It's like I saw. It's like, it's a. It's terrible. It is terrible. It is. It looks like fanfic. That's what a lot of this stuff has turned into, is fanfic. So, yeah, Ironheart being kicked out. They're kicking that can down the road. Like they delayed Agatha as long as they could. They're delaying this one and they're trying to like spread out the. So they can put in some more good stuff in between. The problem is it's still.

[Eli Double Tap]

God bless it. I love Disney.

[Nerdrotic]

I do too. They're. And they're gonna like, they're gonna gay. They're gonna guarantee that I have a job for at least a couple more years.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah, you're golden. How do you to go to the after show?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, let's go to the after show. Bye, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast. I was joined today by what, you going to talk about the Jews again?

[Eli Double Tap]

We're just going to pick Conor as that person. Conor's like, I am not Hitler.

[Nerdrotic]

Connor Mengele. Thank you.

[Eli Double Tap]

King Mengula.

[Donut Operator]

I was joined today by Hitler, double tap, nerd, Roddick, Brandon Herrera, myself, donut operator. Please join the after show on Patreon, where we got a little bit of like 10, 15 minutes over there.

[Nerdrotic]

Just hang out.

[Donut Operator]

Where can we find you at, sir?

[Nerdrotic]

You can find me. I was going to give you my address. My wife wouldn't like that. You can find me on YouTube or Twitter. Search Nerdrotic. Well, no. If you search Nerd Rodic on YouTube, make sure to search Nerd. Rotic is toxic. Because that's the first thing that comes up when you type in my name for everything.

[Brandon Herrera]

Really?

[Nerdrotic]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Congratulations.

[Nerdrotic]

Thank you. I'm making it, dude. I know.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's how we know you've succeeded.

[Brandon Herrera]

And soon on. On Pepperbox.

[Nerdrotic]

And soon on Pepperbox, boy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Fuck yeah.

[Nerdrotic]

We love you.

[Eli Double Tap]

Kisses my way.