186 - Squirrel Murder, Veterans Day & World War 3 ft. HLC & Chris Cappy | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 186

Summary

Unsubscribe Podcast Episode 186: Squirrel Murder, Veterans Day & World War 3 ft. HLC & Chris Cappy

Release Date: November 11, 2024
Hosts: Eli Doubletap, Brandon Herrera, Donut Operator, Fat Electrician
Guest: Chris Cappy

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1. Veterans Day Tribute and Military Stories (00:18 - 02:11)

The episode opens with a heartfelt tribute to Veterans Day, as Brandon Herrera passionately acknowledges the community's support in raising funds for various nonprofits. Brandon emphasizes the impact of their collective efforts, stating, “We have already raised $40,000 to donate. We're going to hit 200,000” (00:18). The hosts share their military backgrounds, discussing medals and honors received, fostering a sense of camaraderie and respect among veterans.

Notable Quote:
Brandon Herrera (00:18): “We are going to change so many freaking lives, and I'm so freaking stoked. You all are amazing. Thank you so damn much for everything you do.”

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2. AI Misrepresentation and Service Honors (00:09 - 01:42)

The conversation shifts to the perplexing issue of AI-generated images falsely depicting Brandon Herrera as a double Purple Heart recipient. Donut Operator expresses frustration over misinformation, stating, “You have jumped the shark and this is now becoming a problem” (02:44). The hosts humorously debate the credibility of AI portrayals, highlighting the challenges of maintaining accurate representations online.

Notable Quote:
Donut Operator (02:44): “What is a double Purple heart recipient. And I'm like, guys, this is going too far.”

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3. Charity Efforts and Community Growth (05:25 - 08:20)

Brandon announces significant progress in their charitable endeavors, revealing that they have raised over $110,000 for autism charities and are striving to double that amount. He commends the community’s dedication and announces an upcoming tour, inviting listeners to join and support their cause.

Notable Quote:
Donut Operator (05:44): “I would love to see us do that because we're working with some great veteran charities this month.”

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4. Emotional Impact of Covering Violent Content (12:10 - 16:00)

The hosts delve into the emotional struggles of covering violent content, such as police shootings and warfare. Eli Doubletap shares his coping mechanism of donating ad revenue to police charities, stating, “I take my ad money and I just give it to them” (13:05). They discuss the psychological toll and the importance of finding balance while addressing sensitive topics.

Notable Quote:
Eli Double Tap (13:05): “I'm giving cops, like, 10 grand every single time they get shot in my videos. So, you know, it's putting goodness into the world.”

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5. Advanced Gun Technologies and Police Equipment (04:00 - 16:10)

A detailed discussion about gun cam technology used by police officers unfolds. The Fat Electrician explains the functionality and benefits of mounting cameras on firearms, enhancing accountability and safety. They also touch upon innovations like radar-guided hypervelocity cannons and airburst rounds, reflecting on their potential military applications.

Notable Quote:
Fat Electrician (04:00): “We knew ours on the loop into the back pocket. Because if they get caught in any of the moving parts on the system, it'll like. And you're dead.”

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6. World War Z: Book vs. Movie and Military Strategies (32:00 - 40:36)

The hosts compare Max Brooks' "World War Z" book to its movie adaptation, critiquing the film’s departure from the source material. They commend the book's realistic military strategies against zombies, such as coordinated headshots and psychological tactics, which were absent in the movie version.

Notable Quotes:
Chris Cappy (38:30): “How would modern military equipment fare against brain dead zombies? Which was completely gone from the movie.”
Eli Double Tap (39:32): “It was just an average infantryman does not want to listen to a briefing.”

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7. Geopolitical Discussions: Ukraine-Russia Conflict and US Foreign Policy (61:00 - 78:22)

The conversation intensifies as the hosts debate the ramifications of the Ukraine-Russia war and the involvement of North Korean troops. They analyze the United States' role as an empire, weighing the benefits of foreign aid and military interventions against domestic challenges. Brandon Herrera advocates for investing in American growth, while Chris Cappy emphasizes the strategic advantages of maintaining global influence.

Notable Quotes:
Chris Cappy (73:12): “We are an empire if you let that fall apart. To me, foreign aid is like an insurance policy.”
Donut Operator (78:22): “But factoring in equipment and everything. Cost, which is equipment that we were gonna get rid of anyway.”

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8. Content Creation and YouTube Strategies (70:00 - 85:30)

The hosts share insights into their content creation processes, discussing YouTube algorithms, cross-promotion, and audience engagement. They highlight the importance of strong analytics and adapting to shifting viewer interests to maintain and grow their online presence.

Notable Quote:
Brandon Herrera (127:35): “If you under. If you just learn analytics and what works and what doesn't, you can go really far in this space.”

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9. Gaming Discussions: Survival and Strategy Games (86:00 - 107:18)

A segment dedicated to gaming explores various survival and strategy games such as "Factorio," "Dwarf Fortress," and "Return to Moria." The hosts discuss game mechanics, personal experiences, and the parallels between gaming strategies and real-world military tactics.

Notable Quote:
Fat Electrician (117:35): “It's like a survival game, but you can be like a wizard, a paladin. Like, there's skill trees and like that.”

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10. Historical Events and US Military Operations (104:17 - 149:02)

The hosts reflect on historical military operations, including the infamous Operation Way Less Racist (1954) aimed at deporting Mexican immigrants using military tactics. They criticize the government's overreach and racism embedded in such operations, drawing parallels to contemporary issues.

Notable Quote:
Brandon Herrera (104:33): “The short lived operation used military style tactics to remove Mexican immigrants.”

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11. Light-Hearted Banter and Sponsor Segments (Throughout the Episode)

Interspersed with serious discussions, the hosts engage in playful banter, humorous exchanges, and sponsor mentions. They promote products from Underdog, ExpressVPN, and Raycon, integrating these segments seamlessly into the conversation.

Notable Sponsor Mention:
Donut Operator (55:21): “ExpressVPN offers... three months free on a one-year package.”

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Conclusion: Reflections and Future Directions (149:02 - End)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts express their gratitude to listeners and reflect on the depth and breadth of their discussions. They hint at future topics, emphasizing their commitment to addressing complex issues while maintaining an engaging and supportive community.

Notable Quote:
Eli Double Tap (152:42): “Thank you for joining the Unsubscribe podcast. Love you.”

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Final Thoughts

Episode 186 of the Unsubscribe Podcast offers a multifaceted exploration of military experiences, technological advancements, geopolitical tensions, and the intricacies of content creation. Through engaging dialogues and candid reflections, the hosts and guest Chris Cappy provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of various pressing topics, all while fostering a strong sense of community and support.

Transcript

[Donut Operator]

Surprise.

[Brandon Herrera]

Better.

[Chris Cappy]

What would be your ultimate zombie gun?

[Eli Double Tap]

Wait, there's Mexicans hiding in the water.

[Fat Electrician]

How you doing?

[Chris Cappy]

Hi there. I'm good.

[Brandon Herrera]

I want to know what race you are. I want to call you a slur.

[Donut Operator]

Whatever you're at in this video, just know that there's 20 minutes of missing redacted footage we legally cannot show you.

[Fat Electrician]

This is the best podcast I've ever been on, man.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, Veterans Day.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, man.

[Brandon Herrera]

So good. What? Holy crap. First off, this is hands down one of the best communities anyone could ask for. We have already raised $40,000 to donate. We're going to hit 200,000. I truly believe we're going to hit 200,001. So that is clap. That is for all you out there, you amazing humans. Just to reiterate, 100% of profit made on these, all of it is going back to these nonprofits and everything else on our store. A percentage is also going towards those nonprofits. We are going to change so many freaking lives, and I'm so freaking stoked. You all are amazing. Thank you so damn much for everything you do, all of you out there, from Patreon to Reddit to YouTube. This community as a whole is amazing, and we are truly blessed to have you all part of it. Also, this week we are going on tour, so go check out tickets if you haven't. Actually, San Diego might be the only one with, like, very limited tickets left, so go purchase them if you wanna come hang out. Everyone else, thank you so freaking much. We are so excited to meet each and every one of you. Can't wait for this tour to start. Cheers, everyone. Double salute. Love ya. Ready?

[Donut Operator]

Three, two, one. Oof.

[Chris Cappy]

All over me.

[Fat Electrician]

I should. Oh, mine didn't even crack all the way. Hold on, I got it. There we go.

[Brandon Herrera]

That scares me.

[Chris Cappy]

It's getting so wet around.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm like, no, please don't.

[Chris Cappy]

I need a tourniquet soaked.

[Brandon Herrera]

Cody.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, habitual line crosser, Chris Cappy with task and purpose, Brandon Herrera, and myself, donut Operator. Thank you for tuning in.

[Brandon Herrera]

What's up? Happy Veterans Day.

[Donut Operator]

Veterans Day episode.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

That's awesome.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, Happy veterans.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm glad that we're all veterans here.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, everyone can't believe every single one.

[Brandon Herrera]

Of us sound more decorated than others.

[Fat Electrician]

You just got a purple Heart.

[Eli Double Tap]

Shut the.

[Fat Electrician]

He's got two of them.

[Brandon Herrera]

A medal of Honor, like a double Brian's like, I wasn't supposed to be on this episode. I wasn't supposed to be on this episode.

[Chris Cappy]

We all serve in different ways.

[Donut Operator]

How did you fucking convince me to go on two of these in a row? This is a trap door.

[Chris Cappy]

I wasn't surprised. Bitch is better.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's that.

[Donut Operator]

Who was that? Was Andy. Anti. Andy Stumpf, I think.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, on the. Oh, yes. Who was arguing?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it was on. It was on Twitter. Somebody was just like, oh, you should have double double Purple heart recipient Brandon Herrera on the podcast, blah, blah, blah. And he just replies, dead serious. What the. Is a double Purple heart recipient. And I'm like, guys, this is going too far. You have jumped the shark and this is now becoming a problem.

[Fat Electrician]

So what did the last AI say you had that said you had two Purple Hearts?

[Donut Operator]

I don't know, man.

[Fat Electrician]

I think I saw a Legion of merit in there as well.

[Chris Cappy]

I think it probably is best at this point to just double down on it.

[Fat Electrician]

Just actually steal that.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes. Take all of the valor.

[Eli Double Tap]

You'll have the fucking AI picture.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, yeah. Dude chat. Gtp. When it makes images of him.

[Donut Operator]

One of these days you'll know how to say GPT. GPT a different way every time. It's one of my favorite GGT Dude Chat.

[Brandon Herrera]

GPT. TTT Chat. It gives him dog tags no matter what.

[Fat Electrician]

That's awesome. I love it so much.

[Chris Cappy]

I never even wore dog tags. That's how you know it's f. Because mine were in my boot.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, no. See, if you get blown, that's. They want to know whose leg belongs to.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's actually true.

[Fat Electrician]

We knew ours on the loop into the back pocket. Because if they get caught in any of the moving parts on the system, it'll like. And you're dead. It'll pull you in.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, that was. Well, funny you say that, because that was one of my favorite parts of. I think when Trump dropped the first Moab there in Afghanistan, that was what they said. Is that, like, judging off the pieces we found, it was approximately 126 people.

[Fat Electrician]

I like, do what?

[Chris Cappy]

There's a lot of paste.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dude.

[Donut Operator]

It's like 87 legs, 42 arms. Like, what the fuck?

[Fat Electrician]

What does Nick say? Like, the US Is the best at bad guy to baloney medicine or something like that?

[Chris Cappy]

I mean, we called it. I call. I helped call in an airstrike once. And the 30 mic mic from the Ah, 64 just turns them into pieces. And then one of the squads had to go out and pick those people up. And that's probably how that kind of a number gets determined. They're like, we got this many legs.

[Fat Electrician]

We identified a dude by cutting his hand off, putting him in the hide system.

[Chris Cappy]

Happy Veterans Day.

[Donut Operator]

£76,000 of bad guy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Based on the weight, you're measuring them in poundage, but how many of them.

[Fat Electrician]

Divided by £85 a piece depends on.

[Brandon Herrera]

How much they weigh. We'll do an average.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's Veterans Day, so we all get a. This is the big one we've put together. Should be everyone's already. Thank you for buying so many T shirts. Holy shit. We got those numbers just as I was in the bathroom. Y'all are kicking ass and taking names already. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, we just announced that, like, today.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, like, a couple hours ago.

[Donut Operator]

I think we raised, like, $110,000 for autism charity.

[Fat Electrician]

I did see that. That's fucking amazing.

[Donut Operator]

I would love to. If we can smash that, a good goal would be to double that. I would love to see us do that because we're working with some great veteran charities this month.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm so excited. And just all. All across the board, you have all these amazing stories, and then all the individuals that are coming, like, even you guys just coming.

[Donut Operator]

Thank you for coming.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes, thank you. I am bringing my share of autism to this. So. And I mean that.

[Fat Electrician]

What flavor of autism does everyone here have the.

[Chris Cappy]

My. My. I. I'm. Every video is about the military. For some reason, I cannot figure out why militarism.

[Fat Electrician]

Missile.

[Chris Cappy]

Police.

[Fat Electrician]

Police brutality.

[Chris Cappy]

Played that level of Quake.

[Brandon Herrera]

I have the ism, guys. Autism. No. Racism. It's like, no, Cody. I don't know why everyone.

[Eli Double Tap]

It up.

[Donut Operator]

If there's an is called it.

[Eli Double Tap]

You do this. I do this.

[Brandon Herrera]

Those videos just slowly lowers out of frame. He's like, oh, I'm sharing Cody's frame.

[Donut Operator]

How you doing, Chris?

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, yeah, we can talk about that. Well, that was. Yeah. What you guys did. Both of you shut the up and just let me roll with it. Both on pepper box.

[Chris Cappy]

Now.

[Brandon Herrera]

We. These are the new content creators for this amazing adventure that we are slowly figuring out as we go. 700 videos.

[Eli Double Tap]

Seven.

[Donut Operator]

Holy.

[Brandon Herrera]

No. Oh, my God.

[Fat Electrician]

Doctor.

[Brandon Herrera]

Doctor.

[Chris Cappy]

Doctor.

[Fat Electrician]

Doctor.

[Donut Operator]

Well, it is kind of like the New Avengers where, like, nobody cares, but, like, everybody saw the Avengers that show.

[Fat Electrician]

Up with, like, special education instead of powers.

[Donut Operator]

Yes.

[Chris Cappy]

Watch out.

[Brandon Herrera]

We're good at it. No, it is.

[Chris Cappy]

We are weaponized.

[Brandon Herrera]

Can I just say one thing? It is having a streaming service, like, where we have task and purpose. Coming aboard. Habitual line crosser. Now we're in this space where, trust us, we did not envision any of that this fast.

[Donut Operator]

And now we're here, legitimately honored to have people like task and purpose and. And Eli on.

[Chris Cappy]

I was waiting for it.

[Fat Electrician]

I was like, is he going to. Okay, well played. Well played.

[Donut Operator]

Had to. Sorry.

[Fat Electrician]

Of course, dude.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's wild to be there, especially how fast this community has.

[Fat Electrician]

I just. For me, it's. It's a privilege to be with you guys, you know, on that platform. And I get. It's a. It's a good feeling because I get a little bit wider of a left or right limit that I can be as a creator.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

On that. Because of the subscription, you know, requirements and stuff. So it's really good.

[Chris Cappy]

There's so much crossover. Like, we do those live streams.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah. We have fun.

[Chris Cappy]

It's like, people love it when I get so many comments that people are like, happy to see you and Ryan and Preston. So, yeah, I'm stoked.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's. It's wild and it's. It is a blessing to be able to provide that for everyone out there, because it's still. We're learning as we go. Like, the entire team is learning as we go. And now we're in this new territory where no one's been. Jake's like, well, we've had it here, but now we are well past that scale. We're like, okay, well, now we're just in new territory and we're figuring out as we proceed, but thankfully to all of you, we're just listening back and forth, having those comms. So it's like, okay, what do you all want? Okay, we'll implement that. We'll figure stuff out. And we are further than probably any of us has imagined at this point. And how big we're growing, we're like, holy fuck.

[Fat Electrician]

Well, it's one of those rare occasions that, like, actually unknown occasions that. So as content creators, we listen to our following. Like, that's what we do. You guys want this. Let me implement that. Like. Like, we pay attention. And now you.

[Donut Operator]

Even when it's negative for your own fucking psyche, you listen to the comments.

[Fat Electrician]

You listen. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Ooh.

[Fat Electrician]

But now, you guys. I mean, you're in control of a platform, so you can implement those on a higher, like, level than you ever could before, which is fucking wonderful. So, like, the viewers themselves have more control over the future of that platform than they even probably realize.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. Yeah. That's literally.

[Chris Cappy]

I don't like how much control they have.

[Brandon Herrera]

I fuck them viewers.

[Fat Electrician]

And on that note, fashion, because sometimes.

[Chris Cappy]

I put out a video and I'm like, you guys should like this and they do.

[Donut Operator]

You don't realize you are made to be ruled.

[Chris Cappy]

What is that free will all about?

[Fat Electrician]

Love, Chris.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dude, all of this has been in this. Like this is going to die. I hate.

[Chris Cappy]

Why.

[Brandon Herrera]

Why didn't you all like what I like? Sons of bitches. I spent so much time, I dived.

[Chris Cappy]

Deep into China's intelligence agency and like, only 500,000 of you watched it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hey, fat electrician, habitual line crosser and myself started a second podcast over on Pepper Box. Kind of consensual. Nick came up with that genius name. It's us reading military stories and reacting to him Think creep cast. But with us, it's a lot of laughs. And that will be up Monday on Pepperbox. And we'll have some clips on YouTube too.

[Chris Cappy]

I watch Cody's videos and sometimes I get a little bit of a hard on and I don't know if that says something wrong about me.

[Brandon Herrera]

Sounds very military.

[Fat Electrician]

No, I mean, it's a good breakdown of a good shot versus a bad shot, like circumstances. But then like when I just hear that whack, whack, whack, whack.

[Donut Operator]

Like quacking the quacks of justice.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, I love it. It's so good.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes. There's nothing wrong with me.

[Brandon Herrera]

I love it. Quacks of justice. I do. Like when you with the Pepperbox side, when you started uploading, the normal people are like, oh, this does hit different without the quacks of justice and the blurries. So a bit different now.

[Donut Operator]

Now you see what we see Every brunch, we're just like looking each other and just show each other like fucking snuff films. Like, oh, hey, I'm looking at this for Darwin Awards. Like, oh, well, I'm looking at this police shooting.

[Chris Cappy]

Is that ever, like, how do you say, does ever weigh on you when you watch that shit? Because so I make a lot of videos on, like, the war in Ukraine. And then after a couple of weeks and months of like watching Funker 550, sometimes it'll get to a point where I'm like, I maybe need to like, step away. Does it ever bother you or.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about quitting at a Thousand videos and Eli won't let me.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was like, oh, oh, yeah, you can quit. Yeah, just step away. This doesn't feel like you can quit. You can be ashamed, Cody. Be ashamed.

[Eli Double Tap]

Do not shame unsubscribe podcast.

[Brandon Herrera]

Forgiving us, please.

[Fat Electrician]

It's exactly how I feel in the military. I've tried Putting in my two weeks every day for, like, the past four years.

[Eli Double Tap]

I mean, if. Dude, it fucking sucks watching that all day because I just want to, you know, hang out with my kid, my girlfriend, and be happy, right? But anytime a cop is shot my videos, I take my ad money and I just give it to them. So I'm giving cops, like, 10 grand every single time they get shot my videos. So, you know, it's putting goodness into the world and letting that come back to me on top of that.

[Donut Operator]

Like, what doesn't help is that, like, it's one thing to see something and everybody unanimously agrees, like, oh, that's fucked up.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

But whenever there's discourse on Twitter where there's 80% of the comment section is retards who know nothing about policing know nothing about the law. Talking about, well, that didn't have to, like, Jesus Christ.

[Chris Cappy]

I can only imagine.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it sucks, man. We had.

[Chris Cappy]

Fuck.

[Eli Double Tap]

The one that came up this week again, it's the wedding party, and they get into a brawl with the.

[Donut Operator]

I saw that.

[Eli Double Tap]

And the girl's trying to take the cop's gun, like, actively yanking at it for like five seconds. He turns around and cocks her. And they're like, oh, well, he didn't have to do that. It's like, no, she was trying to take his firearm from him and he pays taxes. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's her gun.

[Chris Cappy]

I can relate to that because. Okay, so I felt like when I was in Iraq, I felt a little bit like I was like a kind of a cop a bit. Because I was there during, like, the occupation phase of the. Of the war. It wasn't like the invasion phase. So every time I would see people talk about anything having to do with the military, I'm like, you're making a judgment on someone who has to make a decision in, like a split second. And then now, with the benefit of video and everything, it's so easy to kind of like Monday morning quarterback, what's happening? So, like, I can relate to the frustration.

[Fat Electrician]

Wasn't it like, last year, they had their first ever gun cam, like, on the long gun. And officer, he had a long gun. And it was the first time it had ever happened. It was a officer involved shooting, and they had a camera on the. The rifle itself. It's happened like a year ago.

[Eli Double Tap]

I remember reading the article about it.

[Brandon Herrera]

The one with the laptop. There's a couple shot through the screen.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, not that one. There was a. It was a couple years ago. It was a. Did something shot at police. And the officer had a gun cam on his pistol and he just lit this dude up.

[Fat Electrician]

That's awesome.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, that's right.

[Eli Double Tap]

And the company, we met the company at shot show two years ago and they're like, you're the reason our company is, like, doing so well right now.

[Fat Electrician]

Really?

[Eli Double Tap]

Because that was my most watched video of all time. This is like 19 million views.

[Fat Electrician]

Holy shit.

[Chris Cappy]

What's the size of a gun cam on a pistol? It's like gotta be tiny, right?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. It looks like when you mount a flashlight underneath the barrel, it's like that size.

[Donut Operator]

It's like a bottom picatinny thing, but it automatically records. It's like a gopro or like one of those fucking traffic cams where like 30 seconds on either side of you pulling the trigger, right?

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah. Oh, wow.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's pretty cool.

[Brandon Herrera]

Skip this. If you hate veterans.

[Donut Operator]

Wait, why the did you cut to me? We're happy to announce that Underdog is going above and beyond their sponsorship obligations to help us help veterans.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

Yeah. I don't think you have to really say who we're putting money on.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's Tyson. Tyson with the knockout. Iron Mike, baby, you got this.

[Donut Operator]

Look, I already got a win on Tuesday. I'm looking forward to another win on Friday. You know what I mean?

[Brandon Herrera]

200 on Tyson.

[Donut Operator]

200 on Tyson.

[Brandon Herrera]

Bro, you're going down. Go download Underdog and support them because they are supporting now us and a couple of veteran nonprofits.

[Donut Operator]

They really didn't have to do that, but we appreciate their support on the gun. Have you seen the meme of the gun cam thing where they, they had like, they showed like a prototype or whatever it was. Maybe it was just the meme, but it was like a revolver that had a. Like an old flash photography style camera on the bottom of it. And it was like, oh, things that I've shot at. And it's like spider, deer, furry. Just like a furry doing that.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, my God.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, I just, I. I just, you know, it's. It's constantly arguing with people online. It's like the, the dude sitting on his couch who hasn't walked a mile in 10 years and he's watching a UFC fight and he's like, well, I could have taken that guy. Or he's like, you know, he's saying, well, you should have kicked him here the first.

[Chris Cappy]

You know, I would have shot him in the leg. Yeah. I would have done this.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dude, that works really good. I would have shot him in the lake. In the round. It went up, it went through the top part. He won't stop bleeding.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. It doesn't matter that they have an artery in the leg that easily bleed out from.

[Donut Operator]

What?

[Brandon Herrera]

Femoral? That takes a lot of time to bleed out from.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah. No.

[Chris Cappy]

What, a minute?

[Fat Electrician]

A minute flat? Or like 40 seconds? Yeah. Oh, man. The femoral. Oof.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think I talked about one of my videos too. If you hit someone in the femur, it explodes because there's so much muscle tension on it. It fucking does this even if you break the femur.

[Chris Cappy]

Doesn't have to be like shot in it if you're just, you know, I don't know. There's like, few ways to break the femur, but I don't know, you find a way to break it. Car accident. Yeah, exactly. Like, you are done.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. Because when it snaps, it pulls. As you're saying, all those muscles are pulled in tight. It's just. Why a femur or on your. Yeah, your femur, when it shatters, it can just slip and go up and then tear the artery.

[Donut Operator]

Because, like, aside from the head, I think the second and third most bleedy parts of the body are the hip and the thigh.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, apparently I was here. I was talking to a medic friend that, like, they're like getting shot in the abdomen. Not really that scary. Like, you can lose a lot of intestine and it takes you a while to bleed out. But they're like getting shot in the pelvis. Get to a hospital, you will die quickly.

[Eli Double Tap]

So I think we were talking about it recently. It's like, you know, any wars that are fault in the future are gonna be fault with plate carriers. So fucking shoot them in the pelvic bowl.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And I will do the trick really quick.

[Chris Cappy]

The more, you know, aiming center mass is a little bit less. Like it's protected.

[Fat Electrician]

So I mean, it's still gonna fucking rock your world. Like, it's. It's gonna hurt.

[Chris Cappy]

Take the wind out.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, it's. I mean, I don't.

[Brandon Herrera]

I've seen videos of people, like, with a play carrier, like, oh, that wasn't as bad. Especially with modern tech, because it's not hitting Your body, it has that plate and then the Kevlar behind it.

[Donut Operator]

So just wait till they find out about dick meta.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Thank you, Tarkov.

[Eli Double Tap]

The Mexican police shot me.

[Chris Cappy]

My unit, we had cock pads, as we called them. And my buddy would always say that he had the biggest cockpad in the battalion.

[Brandon Herrera]

Did he just get an extra extra large?

[Chris Cappy]

Just the cockpit.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's fucking hilarious. We hated this. We still wore it. That is like. We wouldn't wear. Nick. We wouldn't wear the shoulder. Like, that's stupid. Every dude I knew was like, yeah, protect the ding, ding.

[Chris Cappy]

When I was in.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't know.

[Chris Cappy]

I don't know how police are with, like, the protection meta, as you would call it. But, like, when I was in Iraq, they went nuts. It was almost like a overbearing. The government turned into, like, an overbearing parent. Where we had, like, shoulder pads. The dips and daps. Yes, the dips, the dabs, dude, everything. They were afraid that somebody might, like, trip falling out of a striker or something. You know what I'm talking about, dude? This is.

[Fat Electrician]

They make Kevlar shoulder pads for your body.

[Chris Cappy]

You look like a football player. It's like.

[Brandon Herrera]

And they went through that. We weren't at. That was during, as you're saying, the occupation or the. Not the. Like, the surge.

[Chris Cappy]

It was the gay part of the world.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah. I had the gay part of the war where it's like, I fired around paperwork. And you're like, oh, this sucks dick. So you. We went to Taji one time, like, you mentioned Taji, and you lived out in the cops.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was like, where's Taji at?

[Brandon Herrera]

In Baghdad. It was like.

[Chris Cappy]

So it's like 15 kilometers north of Baghdad. And then I lived on a little outpost that was like the size of a football field.

[Donut Operator]

Thank God Nick's not here. Kilometers.

[Chris Cappy]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm just talking in communism speak right now just for my commie audience out there. They're their benefit. But yeah, I mean, that's like. We in the military, we talked in terms of, like, clicks and stuff. So I don't know how to translate to American speak, but yeah. So the outpost was about the size of, like, a football field. And then we had another outpost that was a chicken coop that we had converted into a barracks.

[Fat Electrician]

That sounds very army. Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Like, it's your burnt. You're burning your shit at that point.

[Donut Operator]

You're.

[Chris Cappy]

You got your jpa.

[Eli Double Tap]

Enjoy the salmonella from the chicken shit.

[Chris Cappy]

Oh, yeah. A lot of dysentery. Exactly. But I forget what the question was.

[Brandon Herrera]

But that's the end experience because I was taught. We did a cob for almost six months in Baghdad. So I always try to explain. I'm like, oh, we got a shower every 20 days or stuff like that. You're burning your shit. It doesn't register to people like that lifestyle, though, because it's.

[Chris Cappy]

Well, my diet was pop tarts and frozen meatball subs and rip it and rip. And so happy Veterans Day. I know a lot of you out there are watching right now, and you. You know what this is? This is a rip it. And this was what everybody drank on. Like, if you had guard. We basically rotated between. It was like eight hours of guard tower duty, and then it was like eight hours of patrols, and then eight hours of. You go on raids. And so no weekends off.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

No days off.

[Chris Cappy]

Days off would suck. Days off would suck. That would be the worst. Because then you had to, like, stay busy. But you defined a way to stay busy. But these rip its kept me alive. And this is not a sponsorship. This is just, I hope, like, only. So I brought a bunch for everyone. But then I thought I was like, people are gonna feel weird if I take out like, five rippets. So now there's only one for me. But don't drink if you.

[Donut Operator]

I don't.

[Chris Cappy]

I was thinking pregnant.

[Donut Operator]

I was thinking of the other one. It was the. The wild tiger, I think.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. Wild tigers, they'd have those overseas, too.

[Eli Double Tap]

Rivets are just pure cancer, dude.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

But boy, do they wake you up.

[Fat Electrician]

They do the trick.

[Brandon Herrera]

There's.

[Fat Electrician]

I mean, yeah, you.

[Chris Cappy]

Testosterone in there.

[Fat Electrician]

The first time you were in Iraq, you had him right off.

[Chris Cappy]

What were you saying?

[Eli Double Tap]

No, I was gonna say, Chris, what was your mos?

[Chris Cappy]

Infantry.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay.

[Chris Cappy]

So I was National Guard. Infantry was nasty girl infantry. So basically, like, I enlisted thinking that I would hate it. And I was like, I'll do three years in the Guard and just. Just deploy and get out and like, that'll be it. But I ended up loving it. And it ended up being like.

[Fat Electrician]

He likes the sound a man makes when he takes his last breath.

[Brandon Herrera]

How many.

[Eli Double Tap]

How many appointments you go on?

[Chris Cappy]

Just one.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay.

[Chris Cappy]

15 month, nine month. Oh, you lucky. And three month stateside. So it was like year away from home. But yeah. No, the guys that we ripped, the guys that were Replaced was a 15 month tour. They were the 25th ID out of Hawaii.

[Eli Double Tap]

Monster.

[Chris Cappy]

They were. It was like you walked into, you know that movie where everyone's going stir crazy. It's like a horror Movie and they've been in the, like, cabin for 30 months.

[Fat Electrician]

Is that the crazies?

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, it was like, walking into the middle of the crazies, and these guys had. They'd gone native. They'd gone a little bit like, is that. Wait, is that racist?

[Fat Electrician]

No.

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Fat Electrician]

You're good.

[Brandon Herrera]

Is that racist?

[Chris Cappy]

No.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is back to the question.

[Donut Operator]

It's like Apocalypse now with the dudes. They find the Colonel, and, like, everybody's just fucking. And, like, okay, well, that's.

[Fat Electrician]

Honestly, like, every time I've had experience with either 25th ID, which is surprising because they're out of Hawaii. It's 25th is Hawaii, right?

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Fat Electrician]

And then 173rd now.

[Donut Operator]

It's now natives getting a little bit more racist.

[Fat Electrician]

Those dudes are always like. They're so. I don't know how to explain it. They're so numb to, like, everything. They're just like, you guys want to get shot at today? We're gonna go over here, guarantee we're gonna get shot at. Like, they're just so numb to everything. They're like, don't walk on that road. You'll die. But if you want to go the.

[Brandon Herrera]

Head, dude, like, 15, 16 months of the same sector, does that really.

[Chris Cappy]

You were second ID, right? Yeah, my grandpa was second ID.

[Brandon Herrera]

16 months. And we lived out in a cob for, like, they were like, hey, you're. You're here. And that is it from four months until it went to mock the DIA and then that was a new cobalt and then your exact same thing, but they had actually, like, cooked food and everything. And then you had people that lived on base, too. But that was, for the most part, it was just three months or four months of out in sector rotate every 20 days. We had 20 day rotations back to base for a day, like, oh, shower, do everything, and then rotate back out.

[Chris Cappy]

So, yeah, that was when we would go back to the FOB Taji every 30 days, and we would have showers once a week, and we would rotate between the different jobs of, like, QRF guard tower duty, and patrol patrol. And it was just like a blur of. And then also rotate between, like, the circadian shift of. Between day and night.

[Brandon Herrera]

It sucked.

[Chris Cappy]

What a ball.

[Fat Electrician]

You know, that's what's interesting.

[Brandon Herrera]

It sucks.

[Fat Electrician]

And I can kind of, like, identify with both of you guys because, granted, I was a 19 kilo at the time, but, like, all we did was walk everywhere. We had no tanks in Afghanistan, so we were circumstantially just running patrols and running tower guard and it's interesting to like when I remember back people like, you know, is there, is there things that like you don't really recall as much. And I'm like, there's entire days, like maybe weeks that I don't remember because I was so exhausted. Like I've been sitting there before. Like, did we go on a patrol today? And they're like, I, I think we did. Like, you have no idea where the you wear.

[Donut Operator]

Nobody remembers their Thursday at Shot show.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh shoot.

[Donut Operator]

We just talked about this the other day.

[Brandon Herrera]

Shooty drinky thing, whatever we call it.

[Eli Double Tap]

Is it gonna be our new shirt? The shooty drinky thing?

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, that text of just Jake, he was like, when does this end? When does shooty bang bang thing and.

[Donut Operator]

Shooty drinky bang bang convention? Shooty drinky bang bang. Oh, it's just kind of that thing where you can only get so exhausted.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dude, that is.

[Donut Operator]

I'll admit, you know, Shot show is entirely self inflicted. But unless you work there, in which case.

[Brandon Herrera]

And we're working. But we also drink with all the.

[Eli Double Tap]

Work we do and gamble.

[Donut Operator]

I feel bad for the people that have to man the booths because like they're out there with us. Because for them this is like their party time. They're. They're out there drink with us until 2:00 in the morning. They have to be manning the booths like front and center at 6:30 in the morning and do it the entire thing to 5:00, 6:00 and then do it again. Like, dude, I don't.

[Fat Electrician]

I'd rather shit my hands and clap.

[Chris Cappy]

There's and the amount of just like extroversion that they have that they can talk and shake that many hands and like say hi to that many peoples. It is, it's truly impressive.

[Eli Double Tap]

They probably hate us and we do booth appearances.

[Chris Cappy]

Oh yeah. It's probably a relief. I'm hoping for that maybe.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Because everyone probably like runs to you guys instead of swamping them.

[Fat Electrician]

I don't know how it feels. I'm going to try this year. I'm gonna go.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's your first shot show.

[Fat Electrician]

That's my first shot show. Oh shit. Yeah. Popping my shot show.

[Eli Double Tap]

Welcome to the party.

[Donut Operator]

Every party, pal.

[Brandon Herrera]

It is that you think, you know, it's like, I'll be dude. Especially the older we get, the harder those days.

[Donut Operator]

You're like, I think this will be my 10th shot or 11th.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon's been doing it since he's 19.

[Brandon Herrera]

Before he could drink legally.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. There's some fun stories about the black Rifle stuff back in the day, like, I just want to. I. I want to do this for a living one day. And like, now I'm there, I'm like, oh, homie, you had no idea what was ahead. It's all good stuff. Well, a lot good stuff.

[Brandon Herrera]

A lot of good stuff. It's a fun time. We get to hang out with everyone. We get to just also not be extroverted. We are forced to that. And then we interact with everyone, and then we want to die afterwards.

[Donut Operator]

You're like, does anybody here consider themselves an extrovert? No, no, no, no.

[Fat Electrician]

I'm a hermit.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

I realized I thought I was an extrovert until I went to my first. My first big shot show where I, like, was popular by any means. And then I remember having the conscious thought because it was 2019. I was like, man, I think I'm just an introvert with a big battery.

[Chris Cappy]

So you can handle. Yeah, because that's what they say is that if. Yeah, if interacting with a ton of other people, like, gives you energy, then you're an extrovert. But if it kind of like, it saps. Yeah. Each interaction just takes a little bit more than you're an introvert.

[Donut Operator]

That's when I realized that wasn't me. But, like, don't get me wrong, like, I'm insanely thankful of, like, all the audience we have and everything. Like, it's super cool to make that much of an impact on people's lives. I'm sure you guys all get it.

[Chris Cappy]

Every introvert's, like, secret fantasy is the idea of loving being around a lot of people, but just not being able to.

[Donut Operator]

Like, I wish that was me.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, you're like, when you walk in that bathroom and close the door, it's.

[Donut Operator]

Like.

[Fat Electrician]

Okay, I think I'm dying, man.

[Brandon Herrera]

Rich has it so nice. Angry cops get so much, dude. The energy he gets from the crowd versus everyone at the table is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No one's charging each other. This is bad. Well, this charges us.

[Donut Operator]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Temporarily.

[Fat Electrician]

That. Liquid courage, Liquid peopling. That's what we'll call it, dude.

[Chris Cappy]

That's where the rippets come in.

[Brandon Herrera]

When cod. Crazy business of podcasting. You know what? He didn't think about merchandise, but now he's selling what?

[Eli Double Tap]

Merch.

[Donut Operator]

And it couldn't be easier.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Eli Double Tap]

What is that?

[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

Do we talk about you guys were artists arguing over there for zombies.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah. So. Well, I made the mistake of telling everybody that last night. Me and the girl were watching World War Z and I forgot you had your.

[Brandon Herrera]

The movie's better than the book. That's what some say.

[Donut Operator]

Retarded people say that just by.

[Brandon Herrera]

Cody.

[Chris Cappy]

I heard Brad Pitt was really onto something.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brad Pitt versus Zombies movie.

[Donut Operator]

I think it would have been a great movie if they do didn't call.

[Chris Cappy]

It World War Z. Yeah, that's what they basically wanted. They were like let's make a zombie movie and let's steal this kind of let's hijack this property just to make it to glom onto their success. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Which is wild in this day and age. You can be like hey, let's not do that and come up with something original and then it will do good. What's it called? Did the same thing. The giant monster movie.

[Fat Electrician]

The Pacific Rim.

[Brandon Herrera]

The first one that was handheld. And then they even the last Cloverfield they did. They've done multiple where it was literally a horror movie. And they're like oh, just slap cloverfield and we'll change.

[Chris Cappy]

What was that one with the marines and the like the aliens came in. I felt that was more like World War Z than the World War Z. Yes. I felt like Battlefield la, pretty good movie, right? That's what I'm saying. Like, that was more like a World War Z movie than World War Z even was. Dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

All they had to do was take World War Z, turn it into a miniseries on like HBO or something. And every chapter, that's an episode, like an anthology. Yeah. Because every chapter is how one individual survived the zombie apocalypse.

[Fat Electrician]

It's so good the way they jump around like that. And I enjoyed the book.

[Donut Operator]

Your arm is World War Z, right?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, my entire sleeve on my left arm is World War Z.

[Chris Cappy]

So you must have felt like it was an affront when they kind of sacrileged the movies, just kind of tore it apart. Because I feel as though, like hbo, when they saw how. Well, I'm blank.

[Brandon Herrera]

Walking Dead.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes. No, no. The other one, the video game that they did, the first one was, I thought, very good. Last of Us. I thought the first series was actually pretty damn good. And it's because they basically just took the video game. They were copied it. Yeah. And the second one's probably gonna suck. Like the video second video game sucked.

[Donut Operator]

Yes.

[Chris Cappy]

Like, that first season was killer. And if they had just done the same thing as like, World War Z.

[Donut Operator]

No, Pedro, don't go golfing.

[Fat Electrician]

It's. It's kind of like how the people who made the Borderlands movie could have just taken Borderlands 2 and made it a movie.

[Donut Operator]

Now put Kevin Hart in it and make it fucking lame.

[Fat Electrician]

I love Borderlands. I was so fucking let down.

[Chris Cappy]

Okay, so what before I forget. Before I forget, the reason that all. I brought all that up and let me just like work it into here because I feel like a lot of people probably will about. This is Con Plan 8888, which in the military we have these things called Con plans, which are. It's short for concept plan, concept of a plan. And they're basically kind of like contingency plans. And so the army, our tax money, we pay a ton of money towards coming. We pay bureaucrats to come up with all kinds of just crazy what if scenarios. And legitimately, we pay like Steve out there and Carl to write out what would happen if a zombie attack happened. So there is a actual US DOD plan. Comp. Plan on zombie attack. How to fight a zombie attack. From the government to. I'm almost really quick. It's insane. And the only reason it was released was due to a FOIA request.

[Fat Electrician]

Freedom of Information Act, Right?

[Chris Cappy]

Correct. For three years it was secret. So people thought, hey, Maybe this is like a disguised plan. Maybe it's a stand in for like how to actually do martial law or like civil civil dissent. But it's like pages and pages and it talks about how to put down, you know, basically like a large. A virus or, you know.

[Donut Operator]

So it would really do my heart good to know, like if they just had like different plans where it's like fast movers, slow movers, 28 days later style zombies versus walking dead zombies. They just have all of those different plans put out. Do they really?

[Chris Cappy]

I will text it. I'll text it to you right now.

[Brandon Herrera]

What can do, you know, like, is that they legitimately.

[Chris Cappy]

The army points out, okay, here's how you fight fast movers. Here's how you fight slow movers.

[Brandon Herrera]

What is.

[Chris Cappy]

The government should Respond Con Plan 88. Con Plan 8888. If you look it up, it's a PDF now because the government had to release it.

[Donut Operator]

How many meltdown videos?

[Chris Cappy]

So to make it less like, oh, I'm sorry.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yes.

[Chris Cappy]

So to make it. To get rid of like. Okay, so the boring idea of it is that it's just. They were. They were. Okay. Your average infantryman does not want to listen to a briefing. And if you put up a bunch of slides about, hey, how do we invade Nigeria? That's boring. But if you put up slides on how to fight a zombie apocalypse, that's more exciting. So that's like the boring justification for why they made it. But I'll send it to you guys. It's wild.

[Fat Electrician]

Well, what pisses me off as I literally just dropped a video, Us vs. Zombies. And I didn't know this existed. So now I'm gonna have to read that. Fucking.

[Brandon Herrera]

How much did we spend on that?

[Chris Cappy]

Oh, it was $38 million to write that up.

[Donut Operator]

Listen, I wrote this fucking seventh grade, all right?

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, fucking Max Brooks already wrote about zombies.

[Brandon Herrera]

We. That your money went. $38 million of your money went to a plan to fight zombies. Do you, do you remember what happened.

[Eli Double Tap]

In World War Z? How they finally like destroyed all the zombies?

[Chris Cappy]

So what I liked was there was like the Battle of New York, right? Or the Battle of Yorktown, Yonkers.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Which is just north of New York. Yeah. And the zombies were like, their bodies were just piling up and they had the Bradleys and they had like. That was my favorite. To me, World War Z is all about the fact that how would modern military equipment fare against brain dead zombies? Which was completely gone from the movie.

[Eli Double Tap]

It didn't work.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, so they were just dropping, like, bombs. Yeah, they dropped bombs. Overrun. Because the more you kill, like, just kind of adds to that. How did it. I forget exactly how it ended.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay, so the way that they finally, like, like, corralled every zombie and they finally were able to clean up the world is they got a bunch of, like, sharpshooters. They taught everyone to shoot for headshots. And they had, like, basic infantry rifles. They had, like, M14s. Like, basic that will kill something in the brain in one hit. And they would blast, like, AC DC or they would blast metal music. And so they would get in a square and just wait for all the zombies to come to the music, and they would just pop them. And when you're. When you run out or you're. You're feeling fatigued, you would pass your rifle back to the dude behind you, and they would come up and so they would corral thousands of zombies around them and just destroy them all with headshots. And that's how they eventually solved it. It wasn't, like, super amazing, fucking expensive military equipment and just ended up being a dude with a rifle with, like, a 762 in it.

[Chris Cappy]

It wasn't Brad Pitt. It was just an average. The thing that is, like, genius about that book is that they thought of that procedure. They thought of that, like, he has to pass the rifle to the next guy. Just that, like, granite level of how do you kill all these zombies? Was to me, that was the beauty of World War Z.

[Fat Electrician]

For the one thing in the book that really. And it was the only thing that popped into my head when you were talking about how they finally eliminated them. I think it was during the Battle of Yonkers. Might have been one of the other.

[Donut Operator]

Chapters, but they love where we're talking about this. Like, it's actual military, obviously. The Battle of Yonkers, we lost a.

[Brandon Herrera]

Lot of good men.

[Fat Electrician]

The chaplain, the going around. Like, there was somebody who was bit reading them their final rights and then just putting a bullet in their head like that. Dude, that's so fucking.

[Eli Double Tap]

That was one of the chapters too.

[Fat Electrician]

Dude, that's wild.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's how chaplains get ptsd. Hey, you're gonna execute people, too? It's like, I signed up. What?

[Donut Operator]

Hold the comments.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, there's a whole chapter about the chaplain going around and having to do that.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, dude. Like, that's wild. Is. That was the one thing that popped into my head. As soon as you were talking about, like, how they finally finished them off, I was like, how did they. And Then I thought chaplain. I was like, no, he didn't do it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, it's a job right there.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude. It's wild. That book. If you guys have never read it, like read it. And something we were talking about before the podcast started. That is Mel Brooks son. Who wrote that. Mel Brooks of Spaceballs.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Blazing.

[Eli Double Tap]

Blazing Saddles.

[Chris Cappy]

Wait, did he do that? I did not know that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Did he do it under a different name?

[Brandon Herrera]

No, no.

[Fat Electrician]

Max Brooks.

[Donut Operator]

Max Brooks.

[Chris Cappy]

That Brooks.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. No one just connects the dots on that one.

[Donut Operator]

He's also. Funny story. He's on an episode of Sons of Guns where they do the ultimate zombie survival gun, which they end up being. It's like a Ruger 1022 inside of a P90 chassis. Because sons of Guns. Whatever.

[Brandon Herrera]

I didn't age well.

[Donut Operator]

No.

[Chris Cappy]

What would be your ultimate zombie gun?

[Brandon Herrera]

I actually have a portion to go over. Everyone's a weapon platform because you Talked about the 4:16 over.

[Donut Operator]

Start off with Brandon Zombie survival. Like ah, all right. Tis and touch. For me personally, like if Infinite Ammo or everything wasn't. It wasn't an issue. I'd say AK105.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay.

[Donut Operator]

But it's my. My go to.

[Eli Double Tap]

That is an issue though in a zombie apocalypse. Then what's the round that's most readily available in the United States?

[Donut Operator]

I have it like a.

[Chris Cappy]

Do you have to worry about logistics?

[Donut Operator]

Decked out AK in 556 with, you know, quadrails and everything like that. I've got the whole thing. We're actually going to be releasing these guns pretty soon. But I basically built the perfect in my mind like. Like American ak. And so we're building a few of them. You guys are welcome to them if you'd like one yet.

[Brandon Herrera]

Scratch if 14.

[Donut Operator]

And a half inch pin and weld suppressor ready. Everything like that's. That's my gun. I'd like. I'm now convinced I'm like zombie apocalypse in the. In the United States.

[Chris Cappy]

Like that's what I want.

[Brandon Herrera]

10.5 inch. I'll take it.

[Donut Operator]

I'll do that just for you.

[Eli Double Tap]

You get picky about a free gun.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't agree with Brandon.

[Brandon Herrera]

I have a lot of guns. What I just put the barrel.

[Fat Electrician]

What do you want? What do you got? Cody?

[Eli Double Tap]

No, no, I just. Okay. So you're gonna have the National Guard, you're gonna have the Army. You're gonna have the whole military out there dying, dropping weapons everywhere. It's gonna be M4 platform. So a basic AR platform because you can pick up Parts. If your gun breaks down, you can pick up a new one. 556 can be readily available every. Everywhere.

[Fat Electrician]

Everywhere.

[Donut Operator]

Well, that's what 556ak.

[Eli Double Tap]

I wouldn't do it with the AK platform though.

[Donut Operator]

It's almost like we have a weapon design warehouse to at our disposal.

[Brandon Herrera]

Famous Last Warriors. And Brandon's like, I got bit. We had a weapon design facility.

[Donut Operator]

Don't let me get bit, motherfucker.

[Brandon Herrera]

Now we have a shop we can't use.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, no.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, no, just cut his arm off now. I'm still infected with one arm.

[Chris Cappy]

Not that one.

[Fat Electrician]

He bit the other arm.

[Brandon Herrera]

We saved him. He has no arms.

[Donut Operator]

I love how your zombie apocalypse plan is let me get bit.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm just talking, guys. Let me. Worst case scenario, guys.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, no arms. Little to the left.

[Brandon Herrera]

That makes sense though because it is like ar like bolt carriers. All the little where you're like, it'll be laying everywhere.

[Fat Electrician]

Well, I think it also depends on where you're at geographically. In the US of course. AR or M4 style. But I'm just saying, like, let's say me and the military stationed overseas, the most world common round 7.62 by 39 is AK round. And AKs are fucking everywhere because when Soviet Union collapsed, they sold them to everybody.

[Brandon Herrera]

I guarantee it's the one time we go on a trip together like the gang does Japan. And that's when that happens. And we're like, mother. Like we're stuck in a country with no guns.

[Donut Operator]

Luckily, one of us has already built the guns you can build in Japan.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

J, show how that turned out.

[Chris Cappy]

I think I got. I mean, I feel like I got to go belt fed though. Personally, I think if I'm gonna. Yeah, if I'm what? It depends. You made a good point is like, okay, geographically is gonna matter because are you in like a safe house or are you stuck in Japan? It's gonna make a difference. But I feel like if I'm stuck in New Jersey, where I'm at, probably want some kind of belt fed.

[Donut Operator]

Lots of belt feds in New Jersey.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

New Jersey is famous for their belt. Actually Picatinny arsenal.

[Donut Operator]

But he's like Mark 19 legitimately.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, but. But so, yeah, like, if I had a choice, I'd probably go. I mean, XM250. The 250 would be dope because it's got that.

[Fat Electrician]

Is that the new one?

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, it's got the mitigating recoil.

[Donut Operator]

Choice 338 Norma.

[Chris Cappy]

There's a version of it that's 338 Norma that I got to fire.

[Brandon Herrera]

And that's the crazy one. That's the one you can like just walk and shoot.

[Donut Operator]

You got to shoot that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes. Sig.

[Donut Operator]

Let me fire it.

[Chris Cappy]

It's really nice because. So I've fired a 50 cal. I've fired a M240. And they say it's kind of between. And they all. And they also say that it's. The nice part about it is that the impulse is more like a straight push back. It feels like just instead of. So I like it. I love.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

That's how I would.

[Donut Operator]

I hate. I understood all of that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Everyone. We're still breaking down.

[Chris Cappy]

Same, same, same.

[Donut Operator]

That's cool.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

No, I wanted to shoot. There's a lot of those. Like the. I think Ohio or ordinance has theirs too. That I am very. I got to play with one. Take it apart at shot show last year. Oh, dude. It is dope. Because it is. All it is is. It is a 2024 version of the MG34.

[Chris Cappy]

Actually. It's hot. We're on to something that I wanted to pick your brain about. Oh, in particularly if. If I could.

[Fat Electrician]

You would.

[Donut Operator]

You are more than welcome. Let's go.

[Fat Electrician]

I was gonna say. Before we get to that, can we ask what was. What was his. Pew. Pew.

[Donut Operator]

Let's go.

[Brandon Herrera]

We're gonna work down it. I still want to. We're gonna got this. We're still on him. We got 338. Le pool. Not le.

[Chris Cappy]

I do want to know that. But also I also want to know. So I've been covering like the XM7 forever. The NGSW. Then it was XM5. Like, I wanted to know what your thoughts and what you. How did you like. Because I found it to be a bit of a bucking Branca. It was a lot. But also I get that like the U.S. army is going for a new doctrine thing. They're trying to hit out to like 800 meters. But from everyone I've talked to, they kind of feel as though hitting out that far is for like a regular soldier. That's. That's a lot to ask to hit out to that distance.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, I don't know, depending on the optic you give them and stuff like that. Yeah, right. There's. Yeah. Hitting out to 800 yards for anybody who's never done it. That's not easy to do.

[Eli Double Tap]

My.

[Donut Operator]

All of my issues with the XM7 or the. Or what do they call it? The SIG. I don't know. Whatever it's XM7.

[Chris Cappy]

XM7.

[Donut Operator]

I have one in 308. And everybody's like, well, you know what it is? You don't even have the real caliber. It's like six eight or 277 fury. Like all of my problems with that weapon platform have nothing to do with caliber. I understand why they chose the caliber they did. I get that. That makes perfect sense. The issues I have with it, I've showed in the video very clearly. Like the over insertion stop, lack of over insertion stop. Where it's like, okay, let's say you run the gun dry. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You're out your 20 run mag, you drop it, you throw in another magazine, you slap it in super hard because you're full of adrenaline, you're getting shot at and you are shooting people. You slam it in and you try to send the bolt home and it jams because you've killed the gun because you've thrown the magazine in too hard. To me, massive problem.

[Brandon Herrera]

You know what? We're trained in the military. Insert slap again to make sure it's set. And now you're like. With your video as it points out, that is you gotta put it.

[Chris Cappy]

Gotta also add the like slap it on your head a couple of times to make sure your brain's working. I totally get that because I feel as though a lot of the jams on the M4 for a while there were also like polymer mag related. I don't know. I mean, I just remember they basically told us not to use PMAGs for a while on the M4s that we had for that. For whatever reason that it was just like jamming with them.

[Donut Operator]

I feel like they developed that over time. Like it led the new. The new gen P mags in 556 I feel like are pretty good. Like that's like universally accepted as some of the better magazines right now. I could be wrong on that. That's just my understanding of it. But no, and on those, like there were so many issues. Like even the handguard, like things that you would mount, like for example a pack 15 to like like a laser designator. Something that you would use under night vision if you're using. You know, the advantages that the American military has. Like we, we fuck at night. Sorry, that's just like our thing.

[Fat Electrician]

We own the night. Like that.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

Afghanistan was the reason that I got comfortable in the dark. Like that's. I'm much more comfortable in the dark now.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

I.

[Donut Operator]

The first time I ever put on like white phos dual Tube nods. I'm just like, oh, this is why we win wars. Like, suggested shift Fox. You put a laser designator on that handguard and it sways so much that it's like you can't use that to reliably zero. And like you, all these issues are adding up. And just in the one that they sent me, which again, Sig, I'm very appreciative and I want to help, but like, I could never recommend that gun.

[Chris Cappy]

So I had a crazy thing happen where I put out a video about basically the soldiers feedback on the XM7 and I went through kind of all the open source information on it and you basically reading like Joe's. Your common. Joe's feedback on. Hey, it's funny because you read Stars and Stripes, you read these different publications and all you're hearing is like, I love it. It's so powerful. Oh, oh my God. And then, and then I want to read that article.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh my God.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. And then I. So I put this video with like, it's about the soldier feedback. And then a bunch of dudes hit me up privately and they're messaging me saying like, what the. Why did you cherry pick my comments? And I come to find out that like the paos in the military, the public affair officers, are legitimately cutting out all of their negative feedback. Oh, yes, I believe it.

[Donut Operator]

I like, I genuinely believe that.

[Chris Cappy]

This Reddit post popped off, went viral and people, this guy was like task and purpose. Chris Cappy's a asshole because he cherry picked all my comments and I'm like, all I did, I. All I know is what Stars and Stripes puts out.

[Brandon Herrera]

You're just like, this is what I had.

[Chris Cappy]

But I totally get his point of view because if I saw that, I'd be like, what the. Why are you only take. So the PAO cut out all of his negative feedback. He said he had 10 minutes of. He said he had 10 minutes of talking to the PAO about shit he hated and how it's like impossible, impossible to clean and this and that.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. And you need a tool. You need a tool to take down the bulk area.

[Chris Cappy]

I could go on and on about his complaints. He said the MOA on it was like, I feel like I'm probably getting too far into the weeds right now, but.

[Brandon Herrera]

There is no such thing. Too much into the weeds now. People are like, okay, so this guy.

[Chris Cappy]

He was making fun of me so hard, but I had to like blast it out to everyone that I know and just say like, guys, read this. Because this guy Has a point and I kind of. I messed up. Like, I should have dug deeper. But he's putting out all this stuff about, okay, it's a four MOA on this rifle, which. So he said every third because it's so over gassed. Like every third shot it just wings and just sends out the. He said the rest of it are like a 2 moa. Which for context, the M4 is like a. I think a 4 moa.

[Brandon Herrera]

Probably like as a new.

[Donut Operator]

They depends on standard issue ones, I think.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And it depends on how much you shot it and when's your last. It is a lot.

[Chris Cappy]

So I was just blown. Also not blown away because I'm like, not that surprised that the government would do that. But they just saw all of his complaints and they said, hey, let's cut that shit.

[Fat Electrician]

So you're saying the government willingly withheld information about soldiers operating a piece of equipment so that way they could sell a specific weapon? They wanted to and maintain a contract so somebody got some money. You're lying.

[Donut Operator]

I'm asking you if that's not real. What do you think is easier? What do you think is easier? Changing the military's decision on what product to buy or making a product sound good.

[Chris Cappy]

That's fair.

[Fat Electrician]

That's fair. That's absolutely fair.

[Brandon Herrera]

We have two options here.

[Donut Operator]

Man, I love this. The gang shits on the XM7.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh my God.

[Donut Operator]

There's a lot of sig stuff I like.

[Chris Cappy]

I am an XM7 enjoyer. I love it. But also at the same times, I wish I did. If they sent me one after the video I made for them, they have like. I can't say this, but.

[Donut Operator]

I'll say it. They're not. They're not in a hurry to work.

[Chris Cappy]

With me right now.

[Fat Electrician]

I take one to test out.

[Donut Operator]

I don't have anything against sig. I really don't. I just. That thing in particular really kind of chapped my ass because there's so many other. Like, if you try to use the charging handle on it. Good luck. Things like almost. I'll show you. I'll show you mine. It is so stiff, it's almost unusable. Like, you have to use the left side charging handle. But the military's. Their guidelines for. What they needed in that program was they needed a standard charging handle in the back for whatever fucking reason.

[Brandon Herrera]

Just be the reason was because it was like, we don't want soldiers that are already used to this to change. So they have to have that and the front charging handle or side charging Handle?

[Donut Operator]

Yep.

[Chris Cappy]

Dude, I can't wait till the XM7's filter down to like the police force and we can finally see some. Some donut operator videos with the XM7.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, I can't wait till cops carry those.

[Brandon Herrera]

See, that's wild.

[Fat Electrician]

No, I don't hit with the first three shots, but the fourth one just went all wonky and hit the neighbor's dog. I don't know what the.

[Chris Cappy]

Hey, it's only.

[Donut Operator]

That's the ATF breakdown.

[Fat Electrician]

Oops.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hey, Eli.

[Donut Operator]

What you doing?

[Brandon Herrera]

You're just filing taxes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, that's not what my taxes look like, but either way, I'm here to.

[Donut Operator]

Talk to you about ExpressVPN.

[Brandon Herrera]

Why are you here?

[Donut Operator]

Oh, I see.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're using incognito mode.

[Chris Cappy]

Did you know incognito mode won't hide.

[Fat Electrician]

What kind of taxes you're filing?

[Brandon Herrera]

What do you mean?

[Chris Cappy]

It doesn't matter what mode you use or how many times you clear your.

[Donut Operator]

Browsing history, your Internet service provider can still see every website you've ever visited.

[Fat Electrician]

Do you want people to know these.

[Eli Double Tap]

Are the kinds of taxes you're filing? Eli?

[Brandon Herrera]

Wait. Are you in my house?

[Chris Cappy]

What makes you ask that?

[Donut Operator]

You're too tight.

[Chris Cappy]

It doesn't matter if you get your Internet through Verizon or AT&T or your local Internet service provider. In the U.S. internet service providers can legally sell your information to ad companies.

[Brandon Herrera]

Leave me alone. Were the taxes I sent you not.

[Eli Double Tap]

Good enough for you, Eli?

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't want to see your taxes.

[Chris Cappy]

Just visit the [e-mail] unsub and you.

[Donut Operator]

Can get three months free on a one year package.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[Chris Cappy]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Brandon Herrera]

That's expressvpn.com unsubbed to learn more.

[Eli Double Tap]

So what about them squirrels and raccoons? Oh God.

[Brandon Herrera]

Ah, yes.

[Chris Cappy]

Return them to dust.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, no.

[Brandon Herrera]

Jesus Christ.

[Chris Cappy]

Have you not heard? Tell me, Fred. We talk about the acorn?

[Brandon Herrera]

No.

[Chris Cappy]

No, no, no. I don't know then.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, Cody. Oh dude, this is not a good. This is. No, this is. I've people fucked up on this one. I'm still vineyard neck of the woods a little close.

[Fat Electrician]

I'm still trying to figure out exactly how I'm going to talk about this one, but go ahead.

[Eli Double Tap]

We're trying to figure it out together. So seven years ago, Tick Tock guy, social media influencer, he. He found a squirrel. Its mother died like Little baby squirrel, nursed it back to health. And it's. It's been his baby for the past seven years. And because of this squirrel, he's been able to rescue hundreds of animals, like, through his charity that he does, because he posts videos of him hanging out with a squirrel. Like, jump on his shoulder. Like, jump on him. And he loves it. New York, I can't remember the exact agency that came in, but nyd, nyd, C, nydec, dec. They got a search warrant and came into his house and took the squirrel and the raccoon that he was helping with his charity, and they euthanized them.

[Fat Electrician]

So the whole return to the dust thing, kind of. I'm sorry, man. I'm still so sorry.

[Chris Cappy]

I was going a different direction. Yeah, no, you're good.

[Fat Electrician]

You're good.

[Chris Cappy]

What the actual.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, yeah. The.

[Brandon Herrera]

And this was a famous. Like, the squirrel has a dude, like, a million followers.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, they came in and they ended Warrant. What the.

[Brandon Herrera]

And what was the reason? Because it was just not.

[Chris Cappy]

I don't know.

[Fat Electrician]

There were.

[Eli Double Tap]

There were complaints about the squirrel, and he's like, this squirrel was indoors. Like, it was in his house. It was just chilling with him.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is like a homie squirrel. Like, it would just, like, hop on and walk around with it. They would. Would they? So many videos. I got millions of followers.

[Chris Cappy]

Ferrets that are more wild probably not.

[Brandon Herrera]

Allowed to own exotic animals.

[Donut Operator]

No, he was.

[Eli Double Tap]

He was in the middle of getting the squirrel registered as an educational animal.

[Donut Operator]

But there were concerns about the spread of rabies. So they're in the raccoon and the squirrel. That was why they killed it, is because they had to. They had to check it for rabies. And the only way to check it for rabies is to cut into their brain. So they had to kill it. They had to put it down to check for rabies that they didn't know exactly existed.

[Fat Electrician]

There'd only be a concern for rabies.

[Donut Operator]

If one of the animals had been contacted by animals. This is a government agency we're talking.

[Chris Cappy]

About, you know, I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Brandon Herrera]

It might have rabies. Let's check.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it was the New York Department of Environmental Conservation, which I'm sure they do a lot of good things, but that was. Holy, dude. You're gonna steal this squirrel from this dude's house who's never bit anyone or acted out of hand.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's huge on social. That's where I do not get how something like that goes through all. All those changing of hands. And that high up where somebody's like. He said, hey, this is going to happen to just double check even a smidge. And like, hey, okay, this is a famous squirrel. What are the repercussions? What are the optics on this?

[Fat Electrician]

Four administrators and a judge signed off on that warrant. That's what I was reading in the article this morning. I was like, that. That's nuts, man.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude. And then police set him and his wife outside their house for five hours while they searched their house. It's like, you're doing this to a guy that has a squirrel who saved hundreds of animals.

[Donut Operator]

Let's also put this disclaimer out. This is like, we all learned about this hours ago at time of recording. So it's like, there's probably a lot of more information that's gonna come out. I wouldn't assume it's good for the government, but reaching based on very little knowledge we have right now. Yeah, that's.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dude, that's a politician. And Brandon right there, he's like, guys, I'll cover my basis right now forever.

[Eli Double Tap]

Someone like me always wait for the context to come out.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. Which is.

[Eli Double Tap]

But this is one of those where it's like, the scroll.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was like, it was an evil squirrel.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't see the squirrel. Like, yeah, exactly. A child or anything.

[Chris Cappy]

Dude.

[Brandon Herrera]

The cho. Squirrel.

[Donut Operator]

Then they would have let him go. It's New York.

[Brandon Herrera]

It gets lots of punishment. Sorry.

[Eli Double Tap]

The squirrel should have someone.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. Now it has to register sell, man.

[Fat Electrician]

You know, it sounds like the beginning of John Wick. I'm just saying, like, you know, somebody up a squirrel, and, like, that's how.

[Chris Cappy]

You make John Wick.

[Fat Electrician]

That's how you create John Wick. Right there.

[Donut Operator]

I'm just. I'm picturing American history X. They're just telling the squirrel to bite the curb.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, my God. Dude, Up.

[Brandon Herrera]

Don't do it.

[Donut Operator]

I just heard it.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't know.

[Brandon Herrera]

Just in case you didn't know, the.

[Donut Operator]

Last thing you see is Edward Norton in his underwear and then a squirrel squeak.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, my God.

[Donut Operator]

All right.

[Fat Electrician]

Every time I'm on this podcast, I'm like, this is the one that's gonna get you guys just trying one up at every single time.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, that was my first. No, saying that was my first nine episodes, and it hasn't happened yet.

[Eli Double Tap]

What number are we on right now?

[Brandon Herrera]

So what number did we release?

[Donut Operator]

185.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hey, look, we're still here.

[Chris Cappy]

I mean, I talk about the Israeli Palestinian conflict all the time, and I'm just waiting to get Canceled so.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, dude, I have an. Actually, part of it is. I wanted to talk about the North Korea, which is wild. And also that dealing with modern politics or at least wars, and then the pushback and that flux you get from both sides because you're like. Like you're just presenting information and you are still an asshole for doing it.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, but I get off on it.

[Donut Operator]

I have a question in that regard because, like, I've. In the very beginning of the Russian Ukraine war, I. Actually, your videos were almost exclusively what I watched because when that first kicked off in the first like two weeks before we realized, oh, this is just going to be another forever war. I've seen this before, watches my videos, if that makes you feel better.

[Chris Cappy]

I actually do now. I do now. Okay. USA versus xyz. Yeah, I love it.

[Fat Electrician]

We're getting there.

[Donut Operator]

Especially the Z. Oh, the Z. Yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

Fuck, I gotta redo that one now. Thanks.

[Donut Operator]

But like, when it was first kicking off, I was watching a lot of your videos because it was very interesting to me because I'm like, I'm looking around like, does anybody realize how close.

[Chris Cappy]

To World War 3 we are?

[Donut Operator]

This is. This is a big deal, dude.

[Chris Cappy]

I. First of all, that means a lot because not to sud too much, but love watching your videos on all big inspiration for a ton of the stuff that I didn't before that I didn't.

[Donut Operator]

Know you knew who I was. That was kind of cool.

[Chris Cappy]

Actually. One time I referenced you very briefly in a video as like a joke in a positive way and like, always have love. No, I'll send it to you. It was a good thing. It was a good thing. But he just got used by info. I was trying to. Yeah, check out our appearance on Infowars. We're on there now. And unless you're a globalist or an elitist.

[Donut Operator]

76 will commence again if you.

[Fat Electrician]

Don'T watch Task and Purpose.

[Chris Cappy]

I love it. So actually it's funny you bring that up because I feel as though I want to say, in the beginning of the war, we all knew so little about what was happening and I got so much wrong about. Interesting. Yeah. I've learned so much since then about how to talk about conflicts at that scale because I have my experience of what, what Iraq was like and we know what like coin operations and counterinsurgency is like. And it's such a different animal from like a high intensity near peer warfare. And it's a very different way you have to talk about it. And I realize now that like the war in Ukraine it's so much better to talk about those things in terms of, you know, how like, the CIA actually talks about it or how like, the K. The FSB talks about it in Russia, which is likelihoods. So it's more. I talk about things more like now saying, so you hedge.

[Brandon Herrera]

Right?

[Chris Cappy]

Exactly.

[Donut Operator]

Legitimately.

[Chris Cappy]

Well, you have to, because even the top intelligence agencies hedge because they know that there's so many variables that go into a war of that scale that trying to predict them, it's almost more meaningful to say, hey, because North Korean soldiers are deploying to Kursk in Russia, it is highly likely that it will have an impact on the battle in Kursk. And so when I first saw the invasion by Russia, I talked about things more in, like, an absolutist point of view. So I've learned a lot since then about, like.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

And so to me, I've always learned. My family always told me that, like, talking about politics is impolite, and I agree. But my way around it now is, like, talking about geopolitics is a. Is a little bit easier because American interests are the same, kind of like, almost no matter who is in office. So I, at the channel, I talk about it from, like, a point of view of just American interests, because that's.

[Donut Operator]

What I kind of wanted to talk about a little bit, because. And I'm sure the comment section will tell me I'm wrong if that is the case. But I feel like you come at it from a relative impartiality where, like, you don't. You're not playing left, right politics. You're just kind of like, hey, this is what's happening. They're here, they're here. Their best move is this, but they're probably going to do this. And that's kind of your breakdowns.

[Chris Cappy]

I try to be upfront about my bias. I've my. Okay, so we all. We're from, like, the same generation. Well, I'm 35. Like, we're all around that age, right? So we grew up. Up with. Excuse me, are we sniffing. Can I just.

[Brandon Herrera]

The young ones.

[Donut Operator]

That's him, 28.

[Brandon Herrera]

Sniff the young ones. Brandon.

[Chris Cappy]

I smell good. You smell good.

[Donut Operator]

Thank you, buddy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay.

[Chris Cappy]

The point of what I wanted to say real quick was just like, I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh listening to, like, what do you call it? AM radio. And I loved it. And I felt as though I wished a little bit more that in the media, people would just be upfront about, like, where they're coming from, because I feel as though everyone Has a bias and a point of view. So I've tried to approach it from, hey, I'm gonna put my cards on the table. Like, here's yes, I am pro American, but also I'm gonna tell you list.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, yeah, it's true.

[Donut Operator]

That's true.

[Chris Cappy]

And you'd be surprised how many tasking.

[Brandon Herrera]

Purposes racist your face box be like, no, no, no.

[Chris Cappy]

Only against the one type.

[Donut Operator]

Hello, New York Times.

[Chris Cappy]

You know, you know the type.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dorman.

[Donut Operator]

I've come to bargain. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

So, like, short answer. I tried to be impartial.

[Fat Electrician]

We gotta get Eli back. Give us a minute.

[Brandon Herrera]

They got me that one. Go.

[Chris Cappy]

Try to be.

[Brandon Herrera]

I wanna know what race you are. I wanna call you a slur.

[Chris Cappy]

How do I insult you?

[Donut Operator]

I would like my slur to land, please.

[Brandon Herrera]

A second slur has hit towers.

[Donut Operator]

Shit.

[Eli Double Tap]

Weird. Don't steal my job.

[Donut Operator]

No slur hit tower seven.

[Fat Electrician]

That's crazy.

[Brandon Herrera]

First 10 seconds in the podcast.

[Donut Operator]

We'Re not.

[Fat Electrician]

We're not sure if a slur hit the Pentagon.

[Donut Operator]

Based on surveillance video. No slurs of it.

[Brandon Herrera]

All right, let's deviate this.

[Fat Electrician]

Sorry.

[Donut Operator]

He was making a very, very actual.

[Brandon Herrera]

Intellectual and I was like, racism. Sorry, I apologize for that.

[Fat Electrician]

We back.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

I was saying. Yeah. My whole approach has been to try to be as unbiased as possible because I feel like you reach more people that way. Because I think I hate preaching a little bit. I hate preaching to the choir sometimes, so. Which is like a double edged sword. It's like a Final Fantasy 7 sword where.

[Fat Electrician]

Fucking weirdos.

[Chris Cappy]

Is that what this is?

[Brandon Herrera]

That's the Dragon Slayer. We used to have the Buster sword.

[Chris Cappy]

I want to touch it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Touch it?

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, touch it. Lick the tip.

[Brandon Herrera]

That is the Dragon Slayer.

[Donut Operator]

Okay.

[Brandon Herrera]

Bigger than the Buster sword.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Anyway, I'm proud, you know the Buster sword.

[Donut Operator]

You misdirected yourself on that one.

[Chris Cappy]

I forget where I was. Technically, I'm a couple of sips of rip it Deep.

[Fat Electrician]

But I will notice. I mean, don't get me wrong, my job is more of the comedy aspect. And I know where my place is in the scheme of all this is I make a joke about something using a little bit of facts, a little bit of artistic liberty. But I've noticed that a lot of people will see that and be like, well, what is he talking about? And then they go and they find your type of content or something along those lines where they're like, okay, now I'm educated on what's going on. So, like, mine, ultimately I just kind of filter in, but I I've also realized that not so much just like your own individual bias, like, you know, America first or this, you know, whoever you promote, it's oftentimes your perspective can differ based off of like past experiences. So like my brain works in a tactical sense. So like tactically, $200 billion 0American lives to reduce 95% of Russia's pre war military. That's a, That's a tactical decision and that makes sense to me. But then there's people who look at it, let's say from a political perspective or like, you know, Americans are not, you know, they're struggling to get funding during hurricanes and stuff like that. And it kind of pits some of us against each other a little bit in that aspect because I look at it through a tactical perspective. You know, you look at it maybe a little bit more political. You look at it through law enforcement perspective or something along those lines. But that can also be a huge difference there.

[Donut Operator]

So anytime, Anytime my perspective gets. Gets labeled political. I just thought it made sense.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, no, I actually, to your point, I've seen. I know a lot about you guys and the viewership out there. I get. YouTube sends us analytics and I've seen.

[Donut Operator]

How are you becoming the joker right now?

[Brandon Herrera]

I see.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, I can see his analytics. I can see that.

[Donut Operator]

You want to know how I got the stats?

[Brandon Herrera]

My analytics tastes like iron.

[Chris Cappy]

I've seen that our viewers are shared amongst everyone here. I've seen. We share audience. The YouTube tells us that. Oh yeah, yeah. There is like the. What do they. What do you call it? Like a filter through. Basically.

[Fat Electrician]

I share a lot with Nick, the fat electrician. I share a lot with him. I don't think I've ever seen Brandon's name pop up in my, like, shared.

[Donut Operator]

Makes sense.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh yeah. Cross pollination. And it shows like, if you don't know this analytics will show you. It's like, hey, related channels. The host. Because the other hosts are fucking killing it in life. It's like, oh yeah. And then we use their names, their titles, their tags in our own section.

[Chris Cappy]

That also helps populate your algorithm to the point of. Yeah, like, not to make it political, but it's definitely true that aid to Ukraine, like, like, so I'm. I'm kind of forward. I'm into it. I feel it. But at the same time, I feel like people who pretend like it's not that there's no cost to it, that like it doesn't take away from things in America, like, that's a little bit naive, you know, if you're going to spend a shitload on the military and you're going to spend on foreign aid, like, it's going to take away from America.

[Fat Electrician]

Friendly reminder, the United States gives more foreign aid to everybody else in the world than everybody else in the world combined. Every year, Right?

[Donut Operator]

Yes.

[Fat Electrician]

We just gave a million to Vietnam. I don't know if you guys know that. Oh, yeah, for the hurricane. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

That's something that like. And I'll put this out there as somebody from like, an opposite perspective who doesn't like a lot of Ukraine funding and things like that. And like, yes, probably one of the best arguments I've ever heard in favor of that. It's like, okay, if we're spending so much on defense spending, it's to weaken our strategic enemies. And if we can do that without spending any American lives, I totally understand. Not only that, but a lot of our weapon systems that we currently have built have been built with the idea of taking out the weapon systems that for the first time in human history, are in play. And we can see how those weapon systems do against those, like, you know, Russian tanks, Chinese, stuff like that.

[Fat Electrician]

We have so much.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. And while I don't agree with it necessarily to a degree of like, hey, let's not maybe spend. Have a trillion dollars doing that. I understand the argument. It makes sense to a degree.

[Chris Cappy]

So let me reduce that argument even further because, like, here's what I'll say about it, is that it's so. It's not even like a trillion. It's 26 billion. That in terms of, like, cold hard cash that we're sending to Ukraine over three years, it's 26 billion.

[Donut Operator]

But factoring in equipment and everything.

[Chris Cappy]

Right. So then you have to factor in how much does the equipment cost? Cost, which is equipment that we were gonna, like, get rid of anyway and offload anyway, and it actually costs more to hang on to. But I wouldn't even look at it in terms of, like, weakening the enemy because to me, that's a weak argument. Like, let's weaken the enemy. That, to me, isn't even worth it.

[Fat Electrician]

That hurt. All right.

[Chris Cappy]

I mean, well, no, sorry.

[Donut Operator]

The only thing that you argued is.

[Brandon Herrera]

Still the best part is.

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Brandon Herrera]

The difference.

[Fat Electrician]

No.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't. Dude, I'm didn't mean it that way. This is great. A couple of claws.

[Donut Operator]

To me, that sounds like somebody that is a homosexual.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, that's all right.

[Brandon Herrera]

Nobody.

[Chris Cappy]

Did you see my Grinder profile? Is that what's happening right now?

[Donut Operator]

I Was wondering why my phone was holding.

[Fat Electrician]

So far he hasn't seen any women on there, but he's holding.

[Donut Operator]

Turn left in two feet.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh fuck. Is it. No, but it is good. You have like difference of opinions. You shaking your head no to. What Brandon is saying is, look, we're not killing each other crazy but expand onto what you're talking about. Like break that down to me.

[Chris Cappy]

It's more about to me, if I'm going to be honest with you guys right now, can I love it. I'm going to say that I don't mean this. Can I say that I don't mean this, but like America is an empire. It is an empire. We're an empire, guys. Like we are a friggin empire. We are everywhere. We have bases, 800 bases all over the world. We are an empire. And if. What happens to an empire when we retreat? When an empire retreats, when an empire is like, I'm done, like I'm out. And so you look at the British Empire when they were unable to protect the Suez Canal, when you look at the Dutch Empire when they fell apart, when you look at the Ottoman Empire, any empire that's unable to protect their foreign interests, they fall apart. And what happens to them after that is that their dollar, their currency, falls apart. And their currency is usually like the reserve currency of the world. And right now the dollar is the reserve currency. So my argument is that if we are an empire, which we are, I feel like we're an empire if you let that fall apart. To me, I look at foreign aid like as an insurance policy. It sucks to pay your car insurance insurance. I hate paying my car insurance. But when I freaking, when I like when I just, I need to get into the left lane and I just, I cut that guy off and I hit him and it wasn't my fault, officer, but this guy real totaled my.

[Donut Operator]

BMW and God damn it, Tammy, I, I just want to see my kids.

[Chris Cappy]

We are an empire, okay? And if we don't invest in this empire and it falls apart and the dollar dies, we are in trouble.

[Donut Operator]

Can I counter that on top?

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Donut Operator]

There's also a difference between an empire, well, acknowledging that we are an empire versus what we should be doing. Should we be an empire? Should we be spending all this money in these foreign places versus should we be structuring our entire economy and if we're going to be stealing money, money from the average American taxpayer to fund certain things, is that where it should be going? Or should we be strengthening our own economy and Establishing the dominance of the dollar through peace and trade versus through foreign interests that have nothing to do with us.

[Chris Cappy]

Dude, that's the multibillion dollar question. Because you're absolutely right. It's the. This is what I think no one can prove, which is that what is more beneficial from the American interest point of view, like, is it more so we gain.

[Donut Operator]

I think we both see the other side.

[Chris Cappy]

I think we can agree that we gain a lot by having so many people dependent on us. For instance, like Europe is dependent on us for security. And we get a lot for.

[Donut Operator]

Prove that a couple times.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

Back to back champions.

[Chris Cappy]

So what I'm saying is, like, we get a lot for that. We're able to use sanctions as more. To use our money as a weapon. Our money is like more powerful than a bomb when we use our sanctions. We can kill more people with our sanctions than we can with a, with a bunker.

[Donut Operator]

And Geneva bitches less about it. Yeah, right.

[Fat Electrician]

So we like looking at you Canadians.

[Chris Cappy]

Throw so much weight in the UN and like, we can just around. We do what we want, we're on top. Holy shit. But then there's the other side of the argument, which is like, I like.

[Brandon Herrera]

Would it be better. This is like because you're breaking down both side, so well, love it, dude.

[Chris Cappy]

So the other side of the argument is that. So we benefit a lot from that. We certainly benefit a lot from being the top dogs. But the other side of the argument, which is that you, which are what you're arguing for, is that we would actually benefit more from allocating that money differently, which I don't think you can prove. Like, I don't think you can. Like, if you're, you're lying if you say you can prove one way or the other, because okay, if you were to invest all that money in America instead, it would just change the game radically from how we've been doing it. So I can't, I. Well, to be honest, I can't set.

[Donut Operator]

It's like you say you report on stuff now where it's like, well, it's most likely going to do this, but you don't know.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

I will say from a historical sense, and again, I'm a student of history, I pay a lot of close attention to everything that happens in history and it sucks. Like, I totally agree with you. We don't want to pay all this goddamn money to keep everybody stable. We don't want to. We don't want to send all this aid. Like, I would much rather I am A huge like person when it comes to like take care of Americans. I'm huge on that. But I also understand like you guys are talking about taking care of Americans also means taking the fight to the enemy's front door before they come here. I also like, but historically, whenever we enter into isolationism, which is the early 1900s and again in the 1930s, a World War broke out. Somebody pulled us in. Every single time the United, United States entered into isolationism, like, we're going to just do our own thing. You guys off.

[Donut Operator]

I'll also put this out there. When you're talking about empires, empires usually fail when they over expand and they're unable to provide for their own. And that's why they collapse. That's why they retreat. That's why they pull back. Not because they voluntarily pulled back, but because they couldn't. But because they had problems at home.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Donut Operator]

They couldn't financially afford the empire they built.

[Chris Cappy]

So do you want to know the greatest argument for me was actually, I saw it was a tweet that you made. Actually Cody, you were talking about. Sorry, I shouldn't say. Basically what really was about is like all these people from these hurricane, got victims of these hurricanes and like they're getting 6, 750 bucks or something. I'm like, something is broken here obviously. Like if we're unable to provide for our own people, like no matter what benefit that we get from foreign aid, and I'm for foreign aid. This is someone saying from the perspective of someone who's for like foreign aid, something is clearly broken if we're not also able to like provide for Americans.

[Fat Electrician]

I did want to actually ask about that because I got caught up. Same tweet, because people started tagging me in your tweet about your mom. And it's because I was, I kind of took that, that hard stance about like, well, this is where the money is allocating. If you pay attention to the bills, like the vast majority of it goes right back into the US economy. Like we're paying ourselves for our own shit. And I. And shout out to Zach veteran with a sign. Love that dude. I called him, we had a long conversation. He's like, sometimes you don't see the, the forest through the trees. And I was like, what do you. And you know, I took a step back and I looked at all the facts and everything was coming out and what I had red pilled myself into is the federal government said that they were delivering this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this. Like they had a list of Things that they were delivering to the American South. But you know what I didn't listen to was the people who lived there and weren't getting it. That's where like, so I was like, hey, they're, they're taken care of. They got all this shit. And I, that's when I backpedal. I was straight up. Like, I don't normally apologize when it comes to social media, but I immediately backpedaled. Like, look, I was wrong. I thought you guys were getting all of this that I saw and you're not. Like, that's where I had to take a big step back, eat that humble pie and be like, okay, we fucked up. Something's up.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

Eli?

[Eli Double Tap]

Eli, you must have had the noise cancellation on.

[Brandon Herrera]

I did.

[Donut Operator]

I couldn't hear anything. Just like, I wish I couldn't feel anything.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, you mean these ones? Yeah. And I also thought, whoa, those are the same audio quality as the big guys, but for half the price. But if you haven't pulled the trigger on these little guys, do it.

[Donut Operator]

Plus they have a 32 hour battery life, meaning your days of raw dogging flights are over. And 10 minutes of charging yields you 90 minutes of battery.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wait, it has a quick charge function?

[Donut Operator]

That's what I just said.

[Brandon Herrera]

Also, Raycon just launched their updated models of the everyday earbuds. Weatherproof and or sweat resistant. I actually use these over anything else just because they're tiny. Every freaking gym session.

[Eli Double Tap]

I use mine for everyday chores, like ignoring the SWAT team at my door.

[Brandon Herrera]

Their upgraded model will blow you away.

[Donut Operator]

You're going to be asking yourself why you didn't check them out sooner.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

That's right. You'll get 15 off and free shipping [e-mail] unsub well, Brandon, let me ask.

[Chris Cappy]

You, do you think that. Okay, you made a great point. It was like when empires overextend. Do you feel like maybe we're like overextended at this point?

[Donut Operator]

I feel like when we can't afford to pay the interest on the debt we've already borrowed, we are hyperextending. And the people that are paying the price are the people that are paying the price of inflation. Radical inflation. We're continuing to borrow money from our enemies. We are weakening ourselves. And the one thing that we have going on in the global economy. Economy is the. The American dollar, the USD. And when you have things like BRICs, like alliances of, you know, Brazil, Russia, India, like our enemies are actively forming against us right now economically. And the.

[Brandon Herrera]

Our.

[Donut Operator]

Our number one priority is weakening the American dollar to pay for an empire we can't afford. I feel like that's an issue. And I feel like we need to be spending that money here at home and cutting costs and. And figuring out how we raise our. Like start American growth all over again. That. That. That to me is a bigger priority is figuring out how to. How to grow American jobs, how to grow. I feel like I'm back on the campaign trail right now, and it's really giving me PTSD a little bit.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is like I came for the come and I stayed for the geopolitical.

[Chris Cappy]

How do I.

[Fat Electrician]

Let me. Let me interject one thing before you jump on that and I do you. This conspiracy theory. I've. I've stated this before. Conspiracy theory. I have nothing to back this up. No facts.

[Chris Cappy]

Freaking globalist.

[Fat Electrician]

A lot of people are talking about like World War Three. Do you think right now it has already started just economically and not militarily?

[Donut Operator]

I think it's been started since the end of World War II. All right, financially speaking, I'll prescribe to that.

[Fat Electrician]

Cuz.

[Donut Operator]

Like, not militarily, like, financially speaking.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, no, I was gonna agree. I mean, I would even say militarily, especially with. So when North Koreans were deployed to Russia, that then.

[Donut Operator]

Which we didn't even talk about that.

[Chris Cappy]

Tied in. The CIA believes that there's 13,000 North Koreans, which is the largest conventional deployment of troops to Europe. There's no historical precedent for it, really. When you look through history like North Koreans or Asian troops on the European soil, there's really no.

[Donut Operator]

Remember the last time.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is the battle with Ukraine and Russia just to touch base. This is even in their pamphlets as you're saying. They are now putting it in North Korean for hopefully to grab defectors. Like, hey, yo, what's up? If you come over here, you get three hops in a cot. We won't do anything. And North Korean soldiers know how it is. So if they hear that, it is the idea. It's like, hey, if you surrender, we'll take care of you on this.

[Chris Cappy]

They put them on a cargo ship, they shipped them to Vladivostok. They put them on the longest railroad trains. I saw a comment on one of the videos I did, and it was like these troops went from not seeing anywhere outside their country to suddenly being on the longest railroad track in the world.

[Donut Operator]

Well, maybe they're just backpacking to find themselves.

[Chris Cappy]

That is a journey of self discovery. Oh, my God. Imagine the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. North Korea.

[Donut Operator]

The Sisterhood of the Traveling XXXS Pants.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is an autistic episode. I love it so much.

[Donut Operator]

The requ. The prerequisite knowledge for half the jokes on this podcast.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm so happy. They are so deep, these jokes. Then you need to be in. Need to be on the in.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is. It's crazy seeing that, like, because I didn't even know that was going on. You brought that up recently and then you were talking how many defectors maybe have happened at this time.

[Chris Cappy]

The interesting part is that already, like, Russians are complaining about how do we integrate these guys. We've only got three interpreters for every 30 of them, like you. So what, Ukraine is basically intercepting their. Their radio transmissions and they're already seeing what the Russians are saying. The Russians are already like, derogatorily referring to them as the Chinese. They're already, like, not down with it. Because when I was in Iraq, like, we had the Iraqi force with us and we didn't always refer to them politely. But my point is. No, but it's crazy. But we're not. We're not even like, thinking about how crazy it is because it is involving the Pacific in the European conflict. And it's like, it's so then at the same time, also, the Middle east is popping off and it's kind of. So to the. To the. The normie. To the regular war. Enjoy or enjoy your.

[Fat Electrician]

That was. That was really drawn out.

[Donut Operator]

Did you say that in British?

[Chris Cappy]

Are you guys not from New York? You might look at that and think, like, we're in World War Three. But also, I would also like to remind everyone, everybody that there's other points in history where, you know, the Korean War, you could look at that and also think, wow, World War 3 is about to pop off from that perspective because you had, you know, China was literally fighting US troops, UN troops. It was almost hotter back then.

[Donut Operator]

Vietnam with the French and the like.

[Chris Cappy]

Right? And also the Berlin, like the east and the West. The Soviet Union versus the west was way hotter too. So, you know, yeah, it's bad right now, but also there's hope.

[Donut Operator]

However, the casualty list in the last.

[Chris Cappy]

Two years, it's in terms of them, Russia and Ukraine.

[Donut Operator]

Russia and Ukraine, Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Like, that's brutal.

[Donut Operator]

It's. It's pretty brutal compared to most conflicts. And if you're adding now to the fact that like, okay, America is, whether you want to say directly or indirectly involved, we're there. And now the Asian continent. Continent is getting involved. It's like, all right, well, this, we're brewing all the ingredients right now. The, the biggest question is like, how do we peacefully. Well, how do we non escalate.

[Chris Cappy]

So I try to a little bit sometimes put myself in the shoes of like, someone in Poland and, oh, I love the Polish.

[Fat Electrician]

Right?

[Chris Cappy]

They're beautiful people.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, I love the Polish.

[Chris Cappy]

God bless them. So what would we do if. So the distance between. I'm gonna get this wrong, but I think it's like, what is this? Between Warsaw and the front lines is as if you were traveling from here to North Carolina, I think.

[Fat Electrician]

Sorry.

[Chris Cappy]

From. From New York to North Carolina, I believe it's about.

[Fat Electrician]

They also got that little slice. Was it Kaliningrad or whatever?

[Donut Operator]

If you ask Tony Gonzalez, not far.

[Brandon Herrera]

Imagine though, you're driving eight hours. Like, man, it's a beautiful Sunday. You want to go see war and you drive eight hours to a frontline conflict.

[Chris Cappy]

You wouldn't even have to trade off off unless you were like, you can't even like, do a, an eight hour drive. Come on.

[Donut Operator]

That's like the capital of a first world country.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

I say that because, I mean, I could, but.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, no, he's absolutely right. Like, Poland has been arming to the teeth, like, and I don't know where they're getting all this money from, but Poland is the most like, militarily expansive and explosive country that I've ever seen, like, compared to everybody, ever.

[Donut Operator]

Well, I've made this joke on the podcast before, but I'm like, for like 50 years, their country didn't exist.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Because of, you know, people, basically, they are the fucking. If you have two pit bulls playing tug of war, that's Poland.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Brandon, I think we could probably. I mean, I don't want to speak for you, but I feel like we could probably agree that, like, those European countries would be nice if they paid more for. Towards their defense.

[Donut Operator]

Well, I think that's where a lot of the America first movement kind of like gets irritated with that, where it's like, you guys are way closer to the conflict.

[Chris Cappy]

Conflict.

[Donut Operator]

And the United States is one of the few countries that actually can. That actually donates. Completes their agreement to NATO.

[Fat Electrician]

Was it two and a half percent or something?

[Donut Operator]

Which should be gdp.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, gdp.

[Chris Cappy]

And we were.

[Donut Operator]

It's like, we do like three and a half.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, we're right Behind Estonia was the top of their gdp, and then Poland and then US.

[Donut Operator]

But that, like, most of the countries in Europe that are part of NATO don't give a. They don't contribute. They. They don't. Because you're supposed to be contributing a certain percentage of your GDP toward military defense per year.

[Brandon Herrera]

But they. And then their flip side is. Or one of the issues that was raised was there's no punishment for not.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Doing it. Right.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, well, we haven't so far now.

[Chris Cappy]

Most of them reach 2% at this point. But the thing is 2%, it really should be 4%. So that's kind of. The goalpost is moving.

[Fat Electrician]

But I think estonia spent almost 10%. Like, it's crazy high what Estonia spent. I mean, but Estonia is right there.

[Chris Cappy]

They're right on the pole.

[Fat Electrician]

Like, they're. I think Estonia borders.

[Donut Operator]

Estonia is the battered women's shelter of the ussr. Like, that's. I get why they're fucking upset.

[Chris Cappy]

I think America should spend. Like, imagine if we spent 30%. The toys we could have. Wait, is that not.

[Brandon Herrera]

We just get.

[Fat Electrician]

It's important to note that right now. Now America is designing. Let me see. Three or four different directed energy weapons.

[Chris Cappy]

We can have a Death Star.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, just. We can have a Death Star.

[Brandon Herrera]

You're just like, let's invest more into this. C's dope equipment.

[Donut Operator]

Afternoon. He's like, man, I want super darpa.

[Brandon Herrera]

Listen, Jimmy, here we go. What about a Super darpa?

[Donut Operator]

Even that from Aliens?

[Fat Electrician]

Just take Skunk Works and darpa. Put them together. We call them Scarpa. Let's make some shit out of him.

[Donut Operator]

We have Skunk Works flags.

[Chris Cappy]

Can I. Can I promote what if?

[Fat Electrician]

What if?

[Chris Cappy]

Okay, what if, though?

[Fat Electrician]

I'm loving these what ifs.

[Chris Cappy]

Let's do it. So one of my favorite things we used to do in the military when we were on guard tower duty is we do. Would you rather.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, okay.

[Chris Cappy]

I love a good. Would you rather.

[Brandon Herrera]

I thought we were about to talk about war crimes.

[Chris Cappy]

Would rather kill an innocent civilian. No.

[Brandon Herrera]

No.

[Chris Cappy]

What?

[Donut Operator]

Or do an extra shift.

[Chris Cappy]

That's an easy answer.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was gonna say.

[Donut Operator]

I was like, pow.

[Brandon Herrera]

We'll be. We'll be right back.

[Donut Operator]

We'll be right back after these messages.

[Brandon Herrera]

Technical difficulty.

[Chris Cappy]

No, I was gonna say. What?

[Donut Operator]

Happy Veterans Day.

[Brandon Herrera]

Everyone's like, God damn right.

[Fat Electrician]

This is the best episode I've ever been on. They just keep. The tear keeps on going up.

[Brandon Herrera]

I fucking love it so much.

[Donut Operator]

What if.

[Fat Electrician]

I was gonna say.

[Chris Cappy]

This is what no one thinks of, though. But, like, what if what if we joined forces with China? It'd be like if the rebels and the Imperial army joined for forces and we just, like, created a weapon.

[Brandon Herrera]

I get where you're going.

[Chris Cappy]

Stop us.

[Donut Operator]

Well, we wouldn't. We wouldn't have access to graphics cards for a while.

[Chris Cappy]

Oh, yeah, we. Oh, yeah, we would.

[Brandon Herrera]

They're jumping off.

[Fat Electrician]

We'll just take Taiwan.

[Chris Cappy]

Right on con plan 99.99 it is. We join forces with China. Xi. Xi Jinping, if you're out there.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, no, no, no.

[Chris Cappy]

They can't stop us. Europe can't stop us. The Pacific can't stop us.

[Fat Electrician]

All right, that's it. This episode.

[Brandon Herrera]

Happy Thursday.

[Fat Electrician]

World domination.

[Brandon Herrera]

It all started with us.

[Donut Operator]

You play too much. Too much risk, my boy.

[Fat Electrician]

Real.

[Donut Operator]

So France.

[Brandon Herrera]

All I'm saying, connecting.

[Chris Cappy]

Come on.

[Brandon Herrera]

What?

[Donut Operator]

France?

[Chris Cappy]

What? What's their GDP every year? Come on. China and us, we would be unstoppable.

[Fat Electrician]

But there's whole like that.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't like where you're going.

[Fat Electrician]

There's that whole, like, human rights aspect of us. Even up with China.

[Chris Cappy]

Your feelings.

[Eli Double Tap]

Xing P, you know, was there.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, he's. He's feeling it right now.

[Donut Operator]

Could you please.

[Eli Double Tap]

Your phone's going to ring.

[Donut Operator]

There's a.

[Fat Electrician]

There's a disturbance in the force.

[Donut Operator]

Could you please say search your feelings in an Asian accent?

[Brandon Herrera]

So fe.

[Fat Electrician]

Four bets and one active duty service member.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, my God. You got to search a fen. Got to use the for.

[Fat Electrician]

Okay, okay.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, I. I like how that started, man. North Korea is fighting with Russia. That's where we ended.

[Donut Operator]

I feel like we completely. We. We didn't even talk about the implications of that.

[Brandon Herrera]

We'll go back now.

[Fat Electrician]

It's the same thing with the Korean War. We're just going to send in some marines that are going to farm them for X. That's what it says to me.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, Nick, like, Nick, how do you feel about this? Oh, if you actually just called Nick and be like, hey, these two joining.

[Donut Operator]

Forces because our boy is currently recovering from titty surgery.

[Eli Double Tap]

We're on the podcast. We're on the podcast. Should. Should the United States team up with China?

[Chris Cappy]

For what? So I'm making the argument. Nick, hi, it's Chris Cappy. How are you? First of all, thank you for inviting me on.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

I just wanted to say how dope would it be if we joined forces with Xi Jinping and we just. We just ran this shit.

[Brandon Herrera]

The iPhone 17 would actually be cool.

[Fat Electrician]

We love you, buddy. We miss you.

[Donut Operator]

That was a better response than I could have asked for.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, My God.

[Brandon Herrera]

What the fuck?

[Donut Operator]

Can we get guilt free? IPhones?

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, shit.

[Brandon Herrera]

Holy.

[Fat Electrician]

Well, if my career wasn't over before, we're definitely there.

[Brandon Herrera]

So close. I don't even know where to go from there.

[Donut Operator]

God.

[Chris Cappy]

That's it. That is. To me, that's an olive branch. That's all I'm gonna say is that, like, that's me reaching out to the other side. And I've. I've talked to them before on Twitter, actually. I've reached out to. Yeah, the mss. It's like the China's version of the CIA.

[Fat Electrician]

And you reached out to them or they like.

[Chris Cappy]

No, actually, I'll say this. They actually. They retweeted. They dunked on me.

[Fat Electrician]

Okay.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, they dunked on me on Twitter, and they got me pretty good also. They ratioed me pretty nice.

[Donut Operator]

Well, it's amazing what happens when you. When you own all the bots.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, the bot volumes were aimed at me, and they got me good. And sometimes, you know what? Sometimes you gotta take the L. And they dunked on me. But I. So I reached out to them after that, after they retreated me, and they said, like, hey, yeah, we're aware of who you are. And I said, can I come out? And I'd love to, like, observe what you guys are up to. Not in a spy capacity.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay.

[Donut Operator]

It's kind of crazy because I don't know if there's any other capacity. I'd love to observe what you guys are up to.

[Chris Cappy]

You put it that way. Yeah, I need to relearn my spy company.

[Donut Operator]

I put it that way. That was what you said.

[Chris Cappy]

What I said back to me. It doesn't make sense.

[Brandon Herrera]

Now that you repeated what I said.

[Donut Operator]

I hate.

[Fat Electrician]

He's like a closet communist or something.

[Donut Operator]

Listen here, lady, how fast can you run?

[Chris Cappy]

No, but so the CCP is out there on Twitter, and he's like, talking about how his family ran, like, the propaganda arm of the CCP since, you know, the revolution of Mao Zedong. And so I'm talking to him and I'm asking him, hey, can I come out and, like, hang out over there? And he said, due to the geopolitical tensions of right now. No. And so this is my new olive branch, is like, guys, let's join forces, okay? We've got like 10. The last 10 years. All I'm saying is the last 10 years of my. I gotta go. Hold on, hold on.

[Fat Electrician]

I might be able to bring this one back.

[Chris Cappy]

What is the Avengers been leading to?

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, Captain America, Iron man, us, China. That's how we get there. Okay, so hang on. But, but what about am I wrong? Let me, let me cavy back that there. Because we don't do caveat or piggyback. We say cavy back where I'm from.

[Chris Cappy]

I love it.

[Fat Electrician]

We're going to cavy back that. And I think that this could happen happen as long as we have an alien invasion. Alien invasion. We team up right there. That would be, that would be, I.

[Brandon Herrera]

Think the entire world team at that point.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's time to show the premise behind like every Alien movie ever. They're trying to make humanity like come. Like, you know what's crazy though? They're trying to make them come.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay, we're like, no aliens.

[Fat Electrician]

We stopped.

[Chris Cappy]

Just pick somebody who really can we just pick somebody who really sucks. Like Carl. Just like, God, instead of, why do we need an alien invasion? Let's just find someone who really sucks.

[Brandon Herrera]

Just the world rallies against one random dude. Yeah, that poor guy's like, what did I do? I posted a video of me wrestling.

[Chris Cappy]

Get him.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, just every. Everyone hates.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's just I've been finding these aliens are like, they killed the squirrel. Yeah, dude.

[Fat Electrician]

I found these on the rare occasion I scroll through my tick tock. I don't know if you guys have seen these. You see the ones, it's like some dude doing a Minecraft jumping puzzle in the background. And they just take an AI voice and like read a story. Yeah, dude, why has no one made this? In every single Alien versus Human movies, the aliens are always op and the humans suck. But like these stories are all written as if like humans are like the barbarians of the cosmos. And it's really cool. Like there was one that was like, this is when we learned not to mess with the humans. And they like like abducted like three or four humans. They're like, take these and see if you can turn them into weapons. They're like, they say that humans are super resourceful. Like humans came up with all these new weapons from like random shit that they found. They're like, these guys are dangerous. Like, what the fuck are these things? And like, why don't we have any movies like that where just people show up and humans are like, okay, we're gonna you up now. We're gonna just completely exterminate you and show you who is in. Maybe that's 40k. That might be. I'm not a 40k guy. Maybe that's how 40k happened. We're just like, we're in God's image and I'm gonna Murder you.

[Brandon Herrera]

As I always say, technologically, if they can travel here, they're going to butt rape us. No matter how you look at it, if they've made it to Earth, they're like, oh, you're still at nukes. That's key.

[Chris Cappy]

Cute. So, okay, I mean, everything I've heard about the aliens is that they're already here.

[Fat Electrician]

Everything he's heard, everything he knows, okay?

[Chris Cappy]

Right now, they're already here.

[Fat Electrician]

We've gone from zombies to warfare to North Korea to aliens. I love this. This is the best episode.

[Chris Cappy]

You guys are talking crazy.

[Fat Electrician]

I love.

[Chris Cappy]

They're already here. They're in the under. They're under the water, guys. They're under the water. They're already. They've been here for years.

[Brandon Herrera]

Are you talking about Mexicans?

[Fat Electrician]

No, those ones swim.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wait, there's Mexicans hiding in the water?

[Donut Operator]

You're calling me a what Back under the water?

[Fat Electrician]

What?

[Brandon Herrera]

Where you going with this?

[Fat Electrician]

I love how like the government came out about it, right? Like right as the. Everything was just. Civil unrest was all crazy and the government was like, hey, aliens are real. And everyone's like, I don't give a. There's some going on over here. Like, nobody gave.

[Donut Operator]

Look at the. The mass deportation that happened under. I believe it was Eisenhower. Really?

[Fat Electrician]

I didn't even know that happened.

[Donut Operator]

I was like, oh God. Eisenhower. I believe it was. It was 1953. Operation.

[Fat Electrician]

Please tell me it's something super racist.

[Donut Operator]

It's Operation.

[Chris Cappy]

Are you fucking kidding?

[Donut Operator]

Serious. I mentioned this on the campaign trail because it was just the funniest thing.

[Brandon Herrera]

I believe it's a thing.

[Chris Cappy]

I cannot tell.

[Fat Electrician]

I don't want that in my Google search.

[Donut Operator]

No, I'm dead fucking serious. Like, I joke around, people are like, you can't do mass deportation. I'm like, oh, we've done it before. And it had a.

[Brandon Herrera]

It is an actual thing. Operation was an immigration law enforcement initiated created by Joseph Sweeney, retired United States Army, Lieutenant General. 1954 in June is one year off.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh my God, dude.

[Brandon Herrera]

The short lived operation used military style tactics. Tactics to remove Mexican immigrants. I just like, they're like, hey, we gotta remove the Mexicans. Will call it Operation Way less Racist. Roll it out.

[Donut Operator]

We were way. We were way more on the nose.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh my God. And like the fact that it specifically targeted Mexicans and it's called Operation the.

[Brandon Herrera]

Photo is way worse. It is just Mexican in a pig pen.

[Chris Cappy]

God.

[Fat Electrician]

Dude.

[Chris Cappy]

Guys, have a great. Can we collaborate on a video?

[Donut Operator]

I got to go.

[Chris Cappy]

Guys, I got a great idea.

[Brandon Herrera]

Actors.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh my God, my yout're gonna need prison guards. So I guess me and Cody, my.

[Donut Operator]

Favorite part was like, as soon as they got a millions of Americans back from Europe during at the end of World War II, they're like, oh, that was fucking easy. All eyes turned to Mexico. Like, wait a minute.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, my.

[Donut Operator]

What?

[Brandon Herrera]

What?

[Fat Electrician]

I One of my favorite things, like, throughout history, when it comes to, like, the United States is okay, I'm gonna be real with you. We have committed genocide, like, everybody has. Okay? But we exterminated, like, a lot of natives of fuck, like 250 million. Like, a lot of natives. And I love how, like, we backpedal in World War II. We're like, hey, can you speak that language that no one else speaks?

[Brandon Herrera]

How many millions?

[Fat Electrician]

I want to say it's 200, 225 million.

[Chris Cappy]

It's like, if it's that's not okay.

[Brandon Herrera]

Million. About that time, I swear in the 200 category, because at that time of the United States with like, that's like where that's like, I could be wrong.

[Fat Electrician]

I could have swore over 200 guys.

[Chris Cappy]

It was only 25.

[Fat Electrician]

But I just love how the US backpedaled and was like, hey, can you speak that language that no one else in the world speaks on a radio for us? Calling tanks turtles and and like, they were just like, yeah, even better.

[Donut Operator]

Putting Nick Cage in it now.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hay and brown.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just talking about how bad that was.

[Chris Cappy]

Every once in a while. I like about once a year I call I like to call it. I get into the Cage.

[Donut Operator]

The Cage.

[Chris Cappy]

And I just watch like a ton of Nick Cage movies. But they so I call it getting into the Cage.

[Donut Operator]

Willie's Wonderland, brother.

[Chris Cappy]

I haven't seen that one. Which one?

[Fat Electrician]

All over the place.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, I didn't Will Wonderland.

[Chris Cappy]

No, I didn't see that one.

[Donut Operator]

It's bad. Don't watch it.

[Chris Cappy]

That means I need to watch it. It's good.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, like, it's good if you like that.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, no, no.

[Eli Double Tap]

Are you okay? So the Rock or con air?

[Chris Cappy]

Conair. Conair. 100. I love the Rock.

[Fat Electrician]

So this is a great that hurts.

[Chris Cappy]

That is a difficult Chris question. Will you really like the Rock?

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, like, don't get me wrong, I.

[Chris Cappy]

Like hair is just absurd and every instinct is just out of control. What do you like about the monologue?

[Fat Electrician]

Okay, let me just hit you with this monologue. We're We've been arrested by a bunch of pain for pleasure seeking psychopathic marines. I love that monologue. That's one of those My favorite monologues. Ever.

[Donut Operator]

We never got any gifts from the rock.

[Fat Electrician]

That's fair. Oh, no.

[Chris Cappy]

What's the big gift from?

[Fat Electrician]

What in the name of Zeus's butthole? We did get that gift from the rock.

[Donut Operator]

Which one?

[Fat Electrician]

When he's like. He's like, how in the name of Zeus is butthole did you get out of your cell? Zeus's butthole. We got that.

[Donut Operator]

I haven't seen that. You're gonna have to.

[Chris Cappy]

I love the idea that, like, you're a military man, so, you know when he's in court in the beginning, and it's like, you're. You would be held to a higher standard. And I'm watching, I'm like, that's ridiculous. I don't give a.

[Brandon Herrera]

He's an Army Ranger. He's deadly with his hands.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's why he got fighting eight people, one with a knife. And they're like, well, you're an Army Ranger.

[Brandon Herrera]

Your registered weapon. You killed one of them.

[Donut Operator]

In reality, it's like you killed three.

[Chris Cappy]

Of course.

[Brandon Herrera]

And I just want to get home to my wife.

[Chris Cappy]

But I was an original John Way.

[Fat Electrician]

I watched. I watched Con or no, I watched Con Air, and then I watched an interview with Nick Cage, and apparently one of his most requested. Like, when he meets people in public, they're like, can you say. You know, apparently everyone has that catchphrase. His is put the bunny back in the box. Which is apparently his most requested saying. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

That Movie's what, like, 25 years old now? I hate thinking about that.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, my God. It was a good movie. Like, I mean, this. Those are. Those are peak Cage. Like the Rock and fucking Con Air. Peak cage.

[Chris Cappy]

I mentioned that I was born in the 80s recently, and someone was like, what? I just.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, they. Dude, I know.

[Chris Cappy]

We're all.

[Eli Double Tap]

The amount of actors in that, too, dude. Oh, yeah, you had Danny Trejo, Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle is in that.

[Chris Cappy]

Like, he bites it in that, I think. Where does he live?

[Fat Electrician]

I forgot.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

He get on Malkovich is the bad guy in it.

[Fat Electrician]

I think that's one of John. Like, Cyrus the Virus is one of John Malkovich's best. Like, no matter what he plays in, he will always be Cyrus the Virus. Like, he plays criminally insane.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Also, can we just point out the fact that there was a movie back in the 90s called. Called becoming John Malkovich.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yep.

[Donut Operator]

Literally.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Being.

[Donut Operator]

Being John. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you just, like, you crawl through a, like, air vent in your office job and you just become John Malkovich.

[Chris Cappy]

And he knows this happens, and everyone's John Malkovich.

[Eli Double Tap]

That was what, the Charlie Kaufman? No, the Mink.

[Donut Operator]

It was a guy from 2012, wasn't it? Like, the guy with the boom box. Say anything.

[Chris Cappy]

Written by Charlie Kaufman and starring.

[Fat Electrician]

Know that.

[Chris Cappy]

So I have two things that I have a little bit of a problem with. And, like, I'm obsessed with military, and I'm obsessed with the movies. And though, like, yeah, welcome to the world. Like, people would make fun of getting.

[Brandon Herrera]

A lot more and more. I love it. Hell, yeah. Everyone's like, happy Fitzwide.

[Chris Cappy]

People would. They would quiz me when I was, like, on a bus and I was 5, and they would ask me, like, who's in the Batman movie? And I would say, Danny DeVito plays the Penguin. Because I just, like, have a problem.

[Fat Electrician]

I forgot about Danny. Danny DeVito being the Penguin. Yeah. Like, give us a good penguin.

[Donut Operator]

He's like a short, fat, old guy for four years.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yes, Danny DeVito. And he's the main actor. Have you guys always sent me. And he's like, hey, this is. Yes, he is.

[Fat Electrician]

Have you guys seen.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes, he is.

[Eli Double Tap]

Nasty, ugly. Argue with me on Twitter. Always. I always put the Danny DeVito and the Penguin. That good. He's just a ball with tiny little twig legs.

[Fat Electrician]

Have you guys seen.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was like, with fat. That's the ugly bitches.

[Fat Electrician]

Have you guys seen Red the Retired? Extremely Dangerous?

[Donut Operator]

Just watched that again the other two days ago.

[Fat Electrician]

I like. I think his character in there, like, he's still Cyrus the Virus. He just. He just is. But he plays really, really good brother.

[Donut Operator]

I'm getting the pig.

[Fat Electrician]

I'm getting the pig. And then he just, like, pins that one woman against the wall, and he's like, she's a spy. She's been following us. And she's, like, freaking out. Come to find out, she actually is a goddamn spot.

[Donut Operator]

She was following us. It's got some of the worst gunplay in a movie. Like, it's trash.

[Eli Double Tap]

What was in the pig was a thumper, right? Like the.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, it was a 40 millimeter.

[Donut Operator]

It was like an M203 with stock.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Or something like that. Oh, the M79.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, I thought it was the one shot one. Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

So there's the new. New one was the M320, which I hate.

[Donut Operator]

Really?

[Fat Electrician]

You don't like the 320?

[Chris Cappy]

So I like it as a standard alone.

[Fat Electrician]

Yes.

[Chris Cappy]

But as an under.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, under. It's huge.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

Gross, right?

[Brandon Herrera]

This podcast has been on the Journey, and I favorite movie, like, top you like, if you. I Know it's always hard be like hey but if you like some of my favorite three you like usually click.

[Donut Operator]

It was not hard for him Fight.

[Chris Cappy]

Club Fight Club is in the top three easily as book as well But I would almost argue that the movie is a little bit better than the book in that instance. Other top three some of my favorite recent ones would be I mean so I'm watching Penguin right now the TV series A lot of great tv. Really really amazing.

[Brandon Herrera]

Really. Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

What about you? What do you I will think of more as you what are some of.

[Donut Operator]

Your favorite Dune probably oh dude.

[Chris Cappy]

Did you like the second one though? I couldn't get into Timothy Chalamet is hot as and like I mean that.

[Brandon Herrera]

I just like how confident I see if you Henry Cavill for me I'm like big age hot as that's dude's a good looking dude like I don't.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dudes but Henry.

[Chris Cappy]

No but I couldn't get into like this part 2 I don't know if it I don't know what it was but the first one I really liked.

[Brandon Herrera]

No the second one was you like.

[Chris Cappy]

The first one more I just maybe it was. You ever catch something at like the wrong time and just like not I.

[Fat Electrician]

Didn'T like either one of I just really they seemed half done. Like they just seem complete. Like there was I mean I know they're trying to like drag it out for several video movie series like cinematics were good. There were some things that didn't really make any sense. Like I got to the end of.

[Donut Operator]

The movie I'll tell you this like Cody will like the only reason I enjoyed the Dune series is because I had Cody next to me for both movies in the theater and he was just explaining to me that I would have never known.

[Fat Electrician]

I was like yeah. I was like what is going on?

[Chris Cappy]

You appreciate it on a different level if you're like yeah so I I.

[Eli Double Tap]

I grew up reading the books like I love Herbert. Like I love those books and so yeah when Brandon and I were watching I'm like okay this is why they they use knives and why like the shields don't work and who's the who's.

[Donut Operator]

The putting his hand in the box like that sort of like I I.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like I think that's a Benny Jesser and they're basically space witches have been around for generations. They control everything.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah and you have to remember going into these a majority of directors and this is top level directors writers they're like this is impossible to make to a screenplay because it is, as Cody will tell you, so much information. You're like. And how many years from one and two should pass?

[Eli Double Tap]

Jesus. From the one and two are directly together. So like, when one ends, that's when they go out to the desert. So those are together. But then you go to three. We're about to get into it. That's going to be like another 20 years passes, and then like book four, it's another like 30,000 year. Like, it's wild.

[Fat Electrician]

Well, I will tell you, just like.

[Donut Operator]

Like become a sandworm.

[Fat Electrician]

I didn't.

[Chris Cappy]

That laid the ground.

[Fat Electrician]

Sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

[Chris Cappy]

I was just gonna say that I feel as though Dune laid the groundwork for all of, you know, like, Star wars to come. Basically. None of that would have happened without Dune.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Frank. Frank Herbert paved the way for, like, Star wars and everything that happened.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. So I've looked. I like looking into the history of. So when he wrote those books is an interesting time because you think about, like, was he talking about the Middle east or was it kind of like just. It. It seems as though it wasn't maybe necessarily.

[Donut Operator]

No, he was talking about the different culture that lived in the sand that declared jihad on the world.

[Chris Cappy]

And the oil.

[Brandon Herrera]

I always.

[Chris Cappy]

People were like, you're going to Iraq. You're fighting for oil. It's your blood for oil. I'm like, what else is worth dying for?

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

It starts our cars.

[Donut Operator]

Look, the Middle east as he lands in Iraq.

[Brandon Herrera]

He just dismounted the hind or the black.

[Chris Cappy]

I need to be on that.

[Fat Electrician]

I will say the Middle east was. I just blacked.

[Chris Cappy]

Every time you landed this mountain.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude.

[Donut Operator]

You guys would have up so much.

[Fat Electrician]

I. I will say that I think the Middle east was a lot more like, cool and chill before Iran's Islamic revolution. Before that, like, have you seen pictures of Iran in the 70s cities?

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah, it's beautiful.

[Fat Electrician]

It looks like the US like, people dress normal. Like they're economically great. And then Islamic Revolution. 5,000 people died, and all of a sudden, burkas, like, it's. It was just wild, man. Like, they're.

[Brandon Herrera]

They're seeing it.

[Eli Double Tap]

They're like people just chilling by swimming pools.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, it was beautiful women in bikinis and stuff.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah. It's like, just went straight downhill.

[Donut Operator]

That's why we never liked each other in the beginning. You saw that Lebanese nose.

[Fat Electrician]

You know, actually, Cody, I don't know.

[Donut Operator]

Against my car.

[Fat Electrician]

Because you play video games. Have you ever played. And you can only buy it on. I think you can buy it on disc now. You can't digitally download it. Have you ever played Empire Battle for Dune?

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Fat Electrician]

It's a real time strategy in the Doom universe or Dune universe.

[Eli Double Tap]

No shit. So it's like like civilization or like.

[Fat Electrician]

More like command and conquer. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay.

[Fat Electrician]

And I played as. I want to say it was Atreides. They had these like these big air platforms that have machine guns underneath them. So like by the time the enemy would send in an army, I just them up the whole way. But yeah, Empire Battle for Dune.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, dude, I never played.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, you can. You can still get it in some places. It's pretty cheap, but yeah, you can get it.

[Eli Double Tap]

You know they're coming out with a new Dune game too, right?

[Fat Electrician]

Oh yeah, the. The open world one. Yeah, it's like an mmo, isn't it?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's gonna be like an mmo. Capcom's coming out.

[Fat Electrician]

I'm not a huge MMO fan, but I do like there are certain things that I like about it. Honestly. Lately I've been just getting into survival games. I With survival games.

[Eli Double Tap]

What do you been playing lately?

[Fat Electrician]

So. So because I'm a bit of a casual. Lately I've gotten into. There's two survival games that come out. One is called Planet Crafter, where the entire thing is like there's no enemies. Like the environment is your enemy, but you're terraforming an entire planet. And then the other one is edencrafter, which is like Factorio meets Planet Crafter. So I got like conveyor belts going to everywhere. It's like a snapshot into my brain. Like everything's just fucking connected. It's not, but you have to terraform. Like in Planet Crafter you're just terraforming the whole planet as one. In Eden Crafter, you have to terraform each individual section. So like you got to run water pipes up to get your fertilizers to run and you got to run conveyor belts to get this thing to work. Like it's kind of cool.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, I love Factorio.

[Fat Electrician]

It's so.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's called Factorio, right?

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, it's Factorio where you have all like the different fucking conveyor belts.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, dude. You have some enemies that come in. They don't matter though. It's weird that the enemies in that game are a part of it because you just kill them so quickly. Yeah, you just hold down a button, shoot them real quick. And it's. Dude, factorio is wildly fun.

[Fat Electrician]

It's like your TISM on steroids. Because you want to get every efficiency to like the Highest level you possibly can. You want everything to be connected. But yeah, edencrafter, it's still in pre release and it's. I mean, it's got some bugs.

[Donut Operator]

Crazy games like that are built to reward people with autism.

[Fat Electrician]

It really is. It's so good.

[Eli Double Tap]

Chris, you playing any games right now, bud?

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

I play so many games right now. I'm playing. Most of the games I play are on PS5, so I like a game that you can, like, get into and then get out real quick because it's, like, hard to put the time effort into anymore. Yeah, we played a Shroud. Oh, and Shroud recently. I love that game. But, like, it's. It does take a lot of.

[Fat Electrician]

It's a lot of effort.

[Chris Cappy]

It's like an inventory investment.

[Fat Electrician]

It really is. You know, it's another survival game. It's.

[Donut Operator]

It's like.

[Fat Electrician]

It's like you're. It's a survival game, but you can be like a wizard, a paladin. Like, there's skill trees and like that. There's another update dropping November 5th, and they're opening the whole north.

[Chris Cappy]

I was blown away by the game because you could, like, dig into the ground.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, yeah. I built.

[Chris Cappy]

The games that I normally play are like Warhammer 40, 000, where you can just get in and just murk a bunch of bugs. I haven't played out.

[Donut Operator]

I heard it was really.

[Chris Cappy]

Wait, what were you guys talking? What are the games that you like? Command and Conquer, by the way, is like. That's an inside joke on the channel because I. That's like, one of my favorite.

[Fat Electrician]

So I crashed. I crashed a land network in Manas, Kyrgyzstan, with Command and Conquer generals. I was playing with a bunch of my buddies in. It was called Shooters. They had there. They had, like, a land network. And I was. I told him. I was like, I'm really good at this game. And they're like, all right, well, let's do us versus you. We'll build for 20 minutes. We ran a timer, and I built and built and built, and they got through, like, three out of my six layers. Like, they got pretty far. Maybe four out of my six layers. And then I was like, all right, time for a counter attack. And what I found was an area of the map nobody was at. And I just amassed every. Like, I was just constantly building troops and sending them that way. So all they saw was a blue blob, like, just move across the map. And when I locked horns with the first enemy base, the whole thing locked up and crashed. I Crashed the whole.

[Chris Cappy]

What's your. What's your go to Cody? What's like your. When you're trying to blow off some steam Rim world. I haven't played that.

[Eli Double Tap]

Is it actually it's fucking brilliant, dude.

[Chris Cappy]

What type of game are we talking about?

[Fat Electrician]

What type is it?

[Eli Double Tap]

It's like a base builder type game really. And you can't tell the characters what to do. You just build the base around them. Like Dwarf Fortress. Yeah, it's exactly Dwarf Fortress, but in space. Dwarf Fortress, buddy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dude, I know we had entire segments. We're originally with the podcast. It was gonna have segments for Dwarf Fortress. Because how off the rails that game can go with it. Its primitive AI.

[Donut Operator]

I now know how you felt during the geopolitics.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, you're talking about Murder Boat. Do you remember talking about murder?

[Fat Electrician]

But.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, dude, like reading those stories you like. Cody will attest to this. There are entire stories and it prints it out as is happening in the game. You have no, like, it is very much hands off. You're building how you do your base and all these little things. And then it has stories about each character. And every character has a story that is automatically or procedurally generated. And then it reacts to what is going on. So you have the. The giant story about Cody will tell his. So we have the. The. I forget what is. It's the queen when she's like giving birth and the. It's getting overrun by Orcs and they're like fighting doors are dying. And then she gives birth to hers and goes into a birth to a child. The king. The next king.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, I've heard this story.

[Brandon Herrera]

And then she pulls the baby out and then uses that as a battle weapon and destroys all the orcs that are rushing in. And that is just one of many stories. And it's talking about her like cleaving heads off with this baby.

[Donut Operator]

Planned Parenthood 40K.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh my God.

[Brandon Herrera]

And it's just this queen. This is like gift bird. Holy.

[Fat Electrician]

Dude, have you.

[Donut Operator]

Welcome to the pod.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, just wait. And then you have Murder Boat.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, okay. So Murder Boat is a whole story about people took dwarf fortress and they would have. I can't remember the exact specifications of it, but it was. One person would have the map for like 24 hours. 24 hours or something. And then would pass it to the next person. But the one story I love the most is like one of the dwarves fell in a moat that they had built around their castle. And the orcs like kept falling into the moat. Of course, that's what it was for as a defense. But that one dwarf was down there. But that one weak dwarf kept killing all the orcs. And he powered up so much that he climbed out of the the moat and was just killing everything on the map. And they couldn't stop him because he was so powerful.

[Brandon Herrera]

So they collapsed. So they collapsed the bridge and that one dwarf lived and he lived at the bottom. And he was just killing anything that survived. And then orcs were rushing in. They fall in there and there was literally this dwarf that was eating off of dead orc and just killing him. And it finally escaped. It was just psychotic because you'll go berserk and have no control. So it's just roaming the land.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's just a God.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Murdering. Born the darkness.

[Fat Electrician]

Dude, that sounds. Have you.

[Donut Operator]

You think the moat is your eyes?

[Fat Electrician]

I was born into it. I'm open by it. I don't know if you play survival games, but there was another one because you're talking about orcs and dwarfs. So they. This company, I can't remember which what their name is, they launched one. It's called Return to Moria. It's Lord of the Rings Return to Moria. And you play. It's eight player co op by the way. It's a survival game where you're dwarves and you have to explore the enemies in there. I have it on like one player difficulty which means the enemies are supposed to be easier and I play co op and we still get our rocked. Like the enemies are so difficult to kill in that goddamn game. But like you're just trudging through underground. You're like hey, I found a vein of gold. Let's go ahead and harvest this. Let's go fight these guys. There's a orc over here that's enormous. And I played that one for like a couple days.

[Donut Operator]

I can't wait to watch the viewership drop off of this episode or attention.

[Chris Cappy]

Graphics diving right now.

[Brandon Herrera]

Wait, what's weird is like oh, they're talking about that one or this.

[Donut Operator]

And I can never predict it. Like I always look at the viewership graphs. I'm like, well I always say me then.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, I pay attention to the retention. Like I live in the analytics of the video. YouTube. To me it is my life. It is my BL. I bleed YouTube.

[Donut Operator]

I can tell because of the amount of times you've made eye contact you're doing a. On purpose.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Donut Operator]

And that, that's.

[Chris Cappy]

That's why I know it's never natural.

[Donut Operator]

This guy knows his with data and analytics.

[Fat Electrician]

We're just going to get over here with you.

[Chris Cappy]

Hello.

[Fat Electrician]

How you doing? Hi there.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm good.

[Brandon Herrera]

And now it's two military guys, I.

[Donut Operator]

Was going to say, but it's offset by the military perk sometimes. Now he's just gay sometimes.

[Chris Cappy]

You.

[Brandon Herrera]

Again.

[Fat Electrician]

It's like Marine infantry. They're the gayest straight people you ever met.

[Chris Cappy]

Well, I used to win every game of gay chicken that we played. My squad leader said I was the best at it.

[Fat Electrician]

Have you ever played with a medic? Medics have no lines, bro.

[Donut Operator]

The amount of medics have to shove and people telling you, man, medics.

[Fat Electrician]

I tried playing game chicken with my medic. I kissed a grown man. No shame in my game. And he won because, like, he did. I went 90, he went straight up 10. And then he held it, and I was like, that's gross. I can't do that, dude.

[Brandon Herrera]

It is. It is a testament to watch. We were talking about this on the drive here. You got really good leadership on analytics and everything in the YouTube space, because we talk about it all the time with. If you under. If you just learn analytics and what works and what doesn't, you can go really far in this space. You had really good mentorship where the dude was like, hey, this, this, and this. And then I didn't realize he controlled a lot.

[Chris Cappy]

Oh, I'm so lucky. I got to work with. There's this YouTube channel called Donut Media. Huge, like, 6 million subscribers.

[Donut Operator]

Cody's like, these are my present company, not including.

[Eli Double Tap]

So they stole my fucking tag.

[Chris Cappy]

That's what they said. Step number one, steal. Somebody's just like, if they're better than you, just steal their name. No, but, like, really lucky to have worked with them. And, yeah, there's, like, some things that just. Just are universal that work across whether you're in, like, the police space, the security space, the defense space, or the car space. There's just some things that kind of work on YouTube. And yeah, I was very lucky to work with the CEO of Donut and learn a lot about, like, what. Some of the visuals work. Yeah, Just.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, he was talking about keywords, phrases.

[Chris Cappy]

Certain phrases on YouTube that are. And it's funny because it's like fads. Same as in probably, like, the music industry, where there's certain fads, there's certain titles that kind of pop off. If you use the is legitimately insane or is a nightmare or is worse than you think or is better than you think.

[Donut Operator]

And then it works until it doesn't.

[Chris Cappy]

Right.

[Donut Operator]

And then you're like, okay, well, what's the next thing? Right?

[Chris Cappy]

It's kind of formats.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's what's crazy because we talk about if you. We are boring during a lot of the time. We are. We are working probably way too much. I can't stress how much fun we. We are lucky. We are blessed to do this. But the amount of work on the back end from a day to day, you're like, oh, this is what we actively talk about and find interesting is like, that. On the drive here, I was like, wait, get the out of here. This is how you go from a 10 to 10 to a 1 of 10 and you get a watch that actively. Really quickly, he's like, oh, I just switched it to this, this.

[Chris Cappy]

And. And only if, like, the content is there. Yeah, because content is. God, content is on fleek. And if the content it's not, you.

[Donut Operator]

Need to use in a while.

[Chris Cappy]

And if content is not there, then buy. Felicia.

[Donut Operator]

What year were you born again?

[Chris Cappy]

Let me marinate in the cringe real quick.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, rism with the tism skibidi. Oh, God. Doesn't that mean shit?

[Donut Operator]

I don't know why everyone, thank you.

[Chris Cappy]

No, but honestly, like, if it. So my point is that if, like, the video sucks, then doesn't matter what the title is, doesn't matter what the thumbnail is. But if the video is good and then the title and thumbnail support it and kind of, it's like those things have to confluence together because, like, you can.

[Donut Operator]

Well, that's one of the things that the algorithm did that I think kind of defeated Clickbait is that if people click on a video, look, expecting one thing, right? Because let's say you have the best title, best thumbnail in existence, but your video sucks dick. So if people click away from it in five seconds, then it depletes that in the algorithm. Yeah, okay, well, that. That's a good thing. Like, if your content sucks, then yeah, they're not gonna reward you for that.

[Fat Electrician]

I tell people all the time because I, you know, I obviously, you know, people I work with know what I do, you know, on the side, which is kind of like my main thing now because the army's boring. But anyways, and they. They ask, you know, they're like, well, how do we, you know, do this, this, and this? And I was like, look, it starts with solid content because YouTube, at least in my experience, has one of the best discovery algorithms that I've ever seen. Like, and I explain it like, you ever, like, go on when you're a.

[Donut Operator]

Like 2 trillion dollar company. Yeah, your algorithms are pretty all right.

[Brandon Herrera]

And like decently shaped.

[Fat Electrician]

You look up how to make like a whisper whiskey and Coke on YouTube and then all of a sudden, four hours later, you're watching dudes build in the jungle with sticks. And like that's the discovery algorithm going ham. Like, that's what it is.

[Chris Cappy]

What do you guys watch on YouTube? Can I ask that? Has this been asked before? A million times, actually.

[Brandon Herrera]

Go for it, bro.

[Eli Double Tap]

I can't stop watching guys build cabins.

[Brandon Herrera]

And it switches. Does your switch. Like, you'll have a month and then yeah, for whatever reason, a new video that is older, like your old style content you used to watch like months ago would pop back up. It's like, oh man, I really do like that stuff. And then it switches to that new.

[Chris Cappy]

Subject for along so along that rabbit hole. You ever get into stealth camping?

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Like guys who are okay, you dudes are my kind of weird. So like, I love watching. I forget the guy's name, but he'll like, I think set up stealth camps behind Walmart. He's like, this is the best place.

[Brandon Herrera]

The roundabout.

[Chris Cappy]

Thought about.

[Fat Electrician]

I've never even heard.

[Donut Operator]

There's a place that will be unnamed but like a.

[Chris Cappy]

Camping with Steve.

[Brandon Herrera]

Camping with Steve.

[Donut Operator]

Across from our brunch joint that we're just like, Steve Wallace.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, Camping with Steve.

[Chris Cappy]

Can I see? It's probably. That's probably.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Steve Wallace.

[Brandon Herrera]

This dude will fight. Like camping in it.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

I love everything. It's like all dude, like you're the only one. Like, what the. And all of us is like camping with Steve where he's gonna go to this round.

[Chris Cappy]

If we're talking about the ICEBERG OF Like YouTube videos, that's the tippy top. Because there is. I'll just the weird and the stuff that I watch on YouTube. I consume 36 views.

[Donut Operator]

You're like, I'm camping behind my ex girlfriend's house.

[Brandon Herrera]

And the problems with that.

[Donut Operator]

It's me.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's a really good title and thumbnail.

[Donut Operator]

You're gonna get a subpoena from the sh.

[Chris Cappy]

Are you even watching YouTube if you're not getting arrested for the content?

[Eli Double Tap]

It's like watching dudes like rent a U Haul camper and it's like it's negative 30 degrees. But I'm gonna camp in this U Haul.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Why would you do that? But I'm also just drawn into it so much and I'll watch it all night.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Fat Electrician]

I want you to know from this conversation, you guys Are gonna start at least five new YouTube channels. People are gonna go stealth camping. Getting a U Haul.

[Donut Operator]

That's gonna be the Pokemon evolution of fucking the gang. Does the gang Kank camps in negative 10 degree temperatures in a U Haul.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay, this is a one time thing I really miss. I would hate that so much.

[Fat Electrician]

I. For me, it's like a lot of controversy. Like, I love, you know, police shooting videos. That's a. That's a top one for me. Road rage.

[Brandon Herrera]

Weird algorithm.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Ethan. Very white.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, that's fair. I do like fighting videos. You know, like people getting into fist fights randomly.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Fat Electrician]

And racism. No, I'm just kidding. It's gonna. That last one. Yeah. But yeah, that's. That's for me. I. I've never even heard of stealth camping. Now I'm gonna watch. I'm be upstairs tonight. Like in a U Haul.

[Chris Cappy]

Red letter media. I watch a ton of that. Love that.

[Brandon Herrera]

I haven't watched them. And they. Dude, that is OG. OG YouTube. You're talking about like Phantom Menace. Like when I think that's what put them on the map was their Star wars series.

[Chris Cappy]

But I like their format of the. Just. So what I like to do is catch up when they do the. Right around this time of year, they'll do the. Like, here's the last 11 Halloween videos that I watched. And then you get like great recommendations for the stuff to rent on Voodoo or not to rent.

[Donut Operator]

You know, Speaking of, do you guys remember Rift Tracks?

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Riff Tracks.

[Chris Cappy]

It was. It was like MST3K Mystery Science Theater 3000.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, my God.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes.

[Chris Cappy]

And then Riff Tracks was the offshoot of it.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, they. They did. They started releasing like audios where they would just riff on movies and they would sell the audio that you start the movie and start their soundtrack and play it it together was like just basically audio commentary.

[Chris Cappy]

No, they're back.

[Donut Operator]

I've never even heard they're back now.

[Chris Cappy]

They were on Comedy Central.

[Fat Electrician]

Like, when we're talking like OG YouTube, I go back to like epic rap battles of history, which is, by the way, one of the reasons I got my first.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, that was a good one.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, great stuff.

[Fat Electrician]

Totally off topic, but have you looked into the hypervelocity cannon they're using? They're designing for air defense.

[Chris Cappy]

You're not talking about the Typhon launcher.

[Fat Electrician]

No. So what they did is originally they were going to build. It looks like a Paladin. They put a longer gun and it's still 155. But they. Instead of using it for artillery, they actually made it radar guided and it's a hypervelocity 155 shell. That's fragmentation.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. Instead of Urka.

[Fat Electrician]

Yes. They got rid of.

[Chris Cappy]

But now they changed it to the hypersonic round because they decided they were like, we don't need to do what the China's doing. I was going to say the Chinese, but I'm going to say we don't need to do. Yeah, I did a whole episode on like the future of artillery in the U.S. army.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, okay. We got the. Yeah, okay.

[Fat Electrician]

There we go.

[Brandon Herrera]

Very good. Laser radio, American change.

[Fat Electrician]

Like some of that stuff. Like I, I work directly with artillery guys so I get a lot of like their know how. Have you guys ever seen the. The ATACM actually be used like look up any of the video from the ATACOM attack which is the. Oh, go on, come stand for. So it's a big missile that has 500 APAM in it, which stands for anti personnel or anti materials. Pretty much granted. Grenades. 500, 500, 500 of those.

[Donut Operator]

So an explosive like the.

[Fat Electrician]

The scary thing is, is when you see this thing, they got like high def footage of it. You'll see it and it's flying through the air and it opens and then all of a sudden the fins turn and it spins to scatter them, which is terrifying.

[Donut Operator]

That's gnarly, dude.

[Fat Electrician]

It's. They showed me that. I was like, that's. I am so glad that's on my team. It is terrifying what they can do with those things.

[Donut Operator]

Things written on the side and like handwritten paint is don't tell Geneva about.

[Fat Electrician]

The other was that The Gimlers is 161,000 tungsten balls in one explosive. Yeah, like that.

[Brandon Herrera]

160,000.

[Fat Electrician]

161,000. So they.

[Brandon Herrera]

Tungsten is the heaviest metal that we have by the way, period.

[Donut Operator]

They raise this metal we use.

[Fat Electrician]

Well, they're different sizes, so some of them are like buckshot and the other ones are like 22 caliber, maybe.38 caliber.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hefty.

[Donut Operator]

Well, other than like I, I mean we got like.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, what's more heavy than tungsten though?

[Fat Electrician]

Depleted uranium. Yeah, but it's also.

[Chris Cappy]

That's dp.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like a tungsten ring. If you put on a tungsten ring compared to like a steel ring metal, whatever it is, like it has heft.

[Fat Electrician]

I. The first time I loaded a canister round in an Abrams. So like when you load the round in an Abrams, you push the knee switch. A door that's like an inch thick that's so like, you leave the door closed in case your ammo cooks off and it blow out. Panels on the top just blast out. You. It'll ring your bell, but you'll survive. You push the knee switch, door slides open. You have your honeycomb for your ready rack right there. You just release it and the round literally drops into your hand. The first time I loaded a canister shell, which is an Abrams version of a 12 gate, it's 997 3/4 inch tungsten steel balls. They travel at around, I don't know, 6,280ft per second. You know, not being specific.

[Donut Operator]

Gunner, canister 100 yards, child. Yeah, like 6,000 child.

[Fat Electrician]

997 three quarter inch tungsten steel balls coming out of one shell at what, what's the speed? 6,280ft per second.

[Chris Cappy]

What I could.

[Brandon Herrera]

But the first again.

[Fat Electrician]

Reiterate, how many 997 3/4 inch tungsten.

[Brandon Herrera]

Steel balls at west speed?

[Fat Electrician]

6,280Ft per second.

[Brandon Herrera]

Brandon, how fast is the bullet travel?

[Donut Operator]

5, 5, 6. You're looking at like just over 3,000, I guess. And that's doubling the speed of a good rifle round.

[Fat Electrician]

Like that's. It's insane. And when it drops out though, the whole front end drops you like all the weight is in the nose where all the BBs are, all the balls are. You flip that bitch onto the breach, shove it in and arm it and get it out of the goddamn way because it's gonna, it's gonna recoil like a son of when she fires.

[Chris Cappy]

The cool thing that I'm hearing about is the cool thing though, the coolest death destruction thing is that they're now doing airburst rounds where. So trench warfare is so hot right now, right?

[Fat Electrician]

Just like in 1914.

[Donut Operator]

I would love to see how much of this podcast makes the Internet because, dear God, like the amount of whatever you're at in this video, just know that there's 20 minutes of missing redacted footage we legally cannot show you because holy fuck.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is the Good, good. Put that in the intro.

[Chris Cappy]

They're now creating basically, so people are like, why are they switching? The Bradley shoots 25 minutes, so why are they switching to 30 mil?

[Fat Electrician]

I asked you this question. Go ahead, continue.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm sorry, this is fascinating to me too. We learned this recently. The reason is because 25mil you can't do air burst will with but 30mil you can actually, it's large enough, the round is big enough that you can program it to explode at A certain detonate at a certain point.

[Donut Operator]

Why don't you do that with 25?

[Chris Cappy]

It's just not big enough to put the. Basically, there is like a chip in the round that lets it explode at you. Type into the. Your laser rangefinder.

[Donut Operator]

You can't do like just a longer or like thicker ProJo.

[Chris Cappy]

25 mil. Can't do it. That's what Northrop Grumman told me. That was. I said the same. I asked the same thing. I was like, what gives?

[Donut Operator]

But they said that was in the official work memo.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's the reply.

[Fat Electrician]

This is the best podcast I've ever been on, man.

[Donut Operator]

This is going to be the. What's that Fucking war. War game. I kept leaking military secrets. Oh, yeah, War Thunder.

[Fat Electrician]

Thunder.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yes, this is the War Thunder podcast, unfortunately. So when did China and America become teams?

[Donut Operator]

A podcast is number two in the country, but not where's your DoD subpoena?

[Fat Electrician]

Somebody from China is going to watch us be like, we're not going to team up. And then we start talking about future weapons. Like, fuck, we should probably team up.

[Brandon Herrera]

We control everything.

[Chris Cappy]

What the.

[Brandon Herrera]

Those weapons systems are absolutely insane.

[Donut Operator]

So like 30 mil.

[Chris Cappy]

So basically the. Okay, let's say you see an enemy trench 300 meters away. You're in a Bradley, you put your cannon, basically the remote control weapon system onto it and you do basically press a button and it tells you that's 200 meters away. The technology then programs the round, the 30 mil, which is large enough to have this tech in it to explode at that distance. So you're firing rounds over that trench and it's blowing up and sending shrapnel into the inside of the trench. So that's the big reason why we're trying to push to 30 mil.

[Donut Operator]

It's cutting fuses to the length to detonate at that point.

[Chris Cappy]

Right, Right. Yeah. I feel like you probably understand this better than me.

[Donut Operator]

Well, I thought like we. We built like this is like OG Call of Duty level, but like the XM25 I thought was what we.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, I forgot about that.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, that's literally why they were doing that, to do airburst.

[Chris Cappy]

Did you see it? Not at shot show, but AUSA there making a new one. It's now. Really? Yeah, they made it. Oh, that. You see it?

[Donut Operator]

Yes, yes.

[Fat Electrician]

It's a 30 millimeter high or high explosive accurate. It's 30 shoulder fire grenade launcher.

[Donut Operator]

I know what we're talking about.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh my God. I saw it. I don't even know if it's worth a damn, but it Looks so cool. Yes. It looks like a scar. Like. Like it shoots grenades. It's so funny.

[Donut Operator]

I know. The new shirt. Militist.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh my God.

[Fat Electrician]

Can I shield it? Oh my God.

[Chris Cappy]

Can I shield.

[Brandon Herrera]

Just soldiers in line.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, it looks. Oh, man. I'm gonna pull up a picture.

[Chris Cappy]

I forget who made it, but it's. I mean, it looks like a rifle, but it essentially has barricade shoots. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Isn't it Barrett, the company that owns.

[Chris Cappy]

I think you're right. I think you're right. I think it's Barrett. But it's basically like an XM25 without all the unnecessary split to a wide.

[Brandon Herrera]

And show that eagerly typing in.

[Fat Electrician]

There it is. That's it, right?

[Donut Operator]

SSRS 30 millimeter.

[Chris Cappy]

That is 100 it.

[Fat Electrician]

30 millimeter.

[Brandon Herrera]

What the.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, I'm gonna do a video on it.

[Fat Electrician]

We got the same picture.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm so confused. Did you show Cody what that looks like? It looks.

[Donut Operator]

You seen that?

[Fat Electrician]

It looks like almost an AA12.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, I can put it up for choice.

[Fat Electrician]

Okay, I got you.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's like a small grenade launcher.

[Donut Operator]

30 millimeter anti.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, it looks like a 12 gauge fat.

[Donut Operator]

Technically, any 50 cal is anti material. However, 30 millimeter. 30 millimeter grenades are.

[Eli Double Tap]

Who makes that?

[Donut Operator]

That's Barrett or the Parrot company. I think.

[Fat Electrician]

I think it's only five round magazine, though. I didn't read too much on it.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, maybe 10. Cool.

[Eli Double Tap]

As.

[Fat Electrician]

I mean, a magazine put all kinds of different.

[Chris Cappy]

Like it doesn't have to be explosive.

[Eli Double Tap]

There's like seven rounds sitting in front of it.

[Chris Cappy]

You can say Aaron is asking me.

[Donut Operator]

If I'm over 18 years of age so I can bid on this rifle.

[Brandon Herrera]

How much is it?

[Donut Operator]

No, this is definitely not like civilian.

[Chris Cappy]

No civilian.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, you don't have the. The license for explosives. Oh, come on. Have you guys found the explosives? Guys?

[Chris Cappy]

I thought this was America.

[Donut Operator]

So the funny part is like I've got all the licensing to be able to buy all this shit, but it's like the difference is whether or not they'll sell it to you.

[Fat Electrician]

That's fair. Yep.

[Donut Operator]

Which if you know a guy. But yeah, if they can legally sell it to you, they just. They're gonna have to pass it by their boss.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, thankfully the boss.

[Fat Electrician]

God bless you.

[Donut Operator]

So we haven't even sold this to the government yet. Why the. Did you give it to some guy in Kentucky?

[Brandon Herrera]

Check out the sweet YouTube video.

[Donut Operator]

Did you see what he did with a seru.

[Fat Electrician]

Wait, I haven't seen this.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't know if I've kept Ballistics.

[Fat Electrician]

I don't. I don't know if I've seen that one.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, 50 million people have.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh. I was like, I don't know if I saw that one.

[Brandon Herrera]

Kentucky Ballistics. What happened?

[Fat Electrician]

No. Oh, wait.

[Donut Operator]

You talk.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, put the jam of thumb in it. Yes.

[Donut Operator]

Okay.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, I thought that was a slightly slap.

[Brandon Herrera]

That was a slap around with the twin or 50 cal, right?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, it was the Serbu.50 cal.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, just jam a thumb in it. That's all you got to do.

[Brandon Herrera]

He had a good time, and now he's fine. We love you.

[Fat Electrician]

I. I've seen him, but I've never, like, walked up and said, hello, dude.

[Donut Operator]

He's one of the nicest people in the.

[Fat Electrician]

I met Crispy, and it was a really awkward interaction between me. Like, it was like, right at the end of range day, I was like, hey, what's up, man? Love your stuff. You shook his hand. And then, like, I stood there awkwardly, and he stood there. Then he talked to somebody else. Yeah, I fucked this one up.

[Brandon Herrera]

Here's an awkward interaction. You're like, we're going to get along so much.

[Fat Electrician]

I didn't have it. I do. I don't know why. My brain was just like, you have forgotten everything now.

[Eli Double Tap]

You forgot.

[Fat Electrician]

You don't even know your name. And I just. And then he talked to somebody else. I was like, I this up. Yeah, that's fair.

[Brandon Herrera]

All right.

[Fat Electrician]

I'm going to just. Off.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, Crispy's great. I met him back before the pandemic in, like, 2018 with Patrick Baker. One of my. He hired me at tmp, actually one of my favorite people in existence. Really good. Really good dude. And we went out to Texas, and it was like, one of my first shoots ever. Hung out with Crispy. Hung out with Jack Mandeville. Yeah, Jack had a great time.

[Donut Operator]

Very, very good friends of the podcast.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, Good, good peeps.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, I love Jack. Those dudes are super talented.

[Fat Electrician]

You did a crazy smart. I was not prepared for that. When I met Jack, like, he really. He's fucking smooth.

[Donut Operator]

A history buff dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, he is.

[Fat Electrician]

We were talking about sorts of.

[Donut Operator]

Because he plays, like, the whole, like, oh, I'm so dumb character. But you. You actually sit down and have a conversation with him, and you're like, oh, this guy is this guy's.

[Chris Cappy]

And he always has. He'll, like, talk about history in a way that you didn't think about it necessarily. So for me, like, he'll talk about it. I'm like, oh, I had not considered it that way.

[Donut Operator]

It scares me when people like that, like they say a fact about history and it's like, okay, well everybody knew that. And he's like, yeah, but if you, if you read the letters, it's like, oh, this guy dug deep.

[Chris Cappy]

I do not know how to read. So that is not fair. First of all, out of bounds.

[Brandon Herrera]

He's actually talked about reading like his letters from his great great grandparents or whoever.

[Donut Operator]

He's got familial letters. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And these are like Civil War letters. Reads them and it is insanity to hear how they talked back in the day. And then how old was it? It was like 16 or 17. Talking about like the marriage and everything.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, well, I mean, it's just crazy the difference between the way people talked back then versus like nowadays. It's like, hey, out of toilet paper, please help.

[Chris Cappy]

A different direction. I was thinking that they're like so articulate.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Then and I. So when I hear or like read what they were trying to communicate back then, I'm like, why am I not able to articulate? Even I, well, this is our great.

[Donut Operator]

Great grandkids reading our text messages like, yo tldr not having a great time.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't know what. And again. And then the gif of this.

[Chris Cappy]

This. Why were they so articulate back then? Why could they dab so well?

[Fat Electrician]

I.

[Chris Cappy]

It's cuz it's only going to get worse.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah. But like, I mean, I agree with you that it's only going to get worse. But like, I will also say that Americans in general, like humans in general, were very direct back then. Like we don't. We beat around the bush so much now that when you meet a culture that doesn't like Koreans, which is really interesting. Cuz I went to like a Korean restaurant in Lawton and I was like, can I get an egg on this lady was like, no and just walked away. Wife. He's like, that was rude. I was like, no, that's Korean. Like that's just the. They're straight up, like, this is what's going to happen and you're not.

[Donut Operator]

My dearest mar my life.

[Brandon Herrera]

The commander has walked away today. We haven't seen him in two boons, two scores.

[Donut Operator]

They had days back then.

[Chris Cappy]

Their insults were so sick too.

[Fat Electrician]

They were eloquent.

[Chris Cappy]

He is so mediocre.

[Fat Electrician]

No, it's also important to note that an American president, it was Andrew Jackson, had won over a hundred pistol duels and like killed a guy on the White House lawn before. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Do you not know about his duels?

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

No. I know our homie just challenged people all the time. He's like, yo, bro, dude, if you want be president in this day, dude, 2028, I think homeboy comes and just shoots people.

[Fat Electrician]

Why not be a bad thing?

[Donut Operator]

You know, I. I think he was the first president to ever be able to, like, step up and talk about his publicly recorded kd.

[Fat Electrician]

Like, yeah, dude, Andrew Jackson was a.

[Brandon Herrera]

G. I didn't know I had.

[Fat Electrician]

Somebody insulted his wife at a White House party, and that's the dude he killed on the White House lawn. Like, they went and did a pistol dueler. Is like, you know, pistols right now. Let's go and went out there and just blasted old boy, then went inside and got faced.

[Brandon Herrera]

Debates become so much better when you get a public challenge them and then shoot them in front of.

[Donut Operator]

When you got slapped by the glove in 1820, that was a big deal.

[Fat Electrician]

Yeah, dude, I want to say it was over 100. I'm just going from memory here. I want to say it was over 100 pistol duels he had won and he been shot like three or four times. I want to say during those pistol duels and just survived. It was like, I'm going to be president now. You.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, dude, homies went hard. You're like, okay, good.

[Donut Operator]

Meanwhile, we have a president who can't walk upstairs.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's a lot of stairs. Brandon, don't be so cold.

[Fat Electrician]

I like the Shane Gillis where he's like, as soon as he's done talking, he turns into a Roomba.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm so.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't know about you guys, but.

[Chris Cappy]

In moments like that, I'm so glad for the deep state.

[Donut Operator]

I'm just so.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm just so glad that we. No, wait. Can I just. Wait. Can I say for a second, Can I talk for a second?

[Fat Electrician]

Just let him cook. Let him fuck.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm really happy in moments like that when there's no one at the helm. I'm glad that we have a deep state that can just take over and run this.

[Donut Operator]

So you're telling me we should be voting for the CEO of Boeing?

[Chris Cappy]

Not Boeing suicide.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, my God. This is it. Like, every time I think we've peaked, it's just. This is the one that's going to get it.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is going hard.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm so glad when our president is asleep at the wheel. All I'm glad is that someone else can take over. Thank God we've created a system where we don't need a president.

[Brandon Herrera]

Because.

[Chris Cappy]

The thing I don't like about this podcast is when I talk people they are laughing at. I'm trying to talk. I'm just happy that we have a resiliency my face in this system. Oh, and I think we can all.

[Fat Electrician]

Agree we'll call it a redundancy. We'll go with that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Redundancy, yes.

[Chris Cappy]

That's what my squad leader always used to call me. Redundant. And I appreciate that.

[Donut Operator]

So even when Biden has his faults, we have General Milley at the helm.

[Fat Electrician]

Oh, fuck.

[Chris Cappy]

Now same Sam. We get it. We understand. We are speaking the same language now.

[Fat Electrician]

Didn't he retire and get a job at Boeing or something like that?

[Donut Operator]

Or that's weird.

[Chris Cappy]

That's a Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, who was formerly into this. That's what's my formerly Raytheon chair member who is now Secretary of Defense.

[Fat Electrician]

I wonder why we picked radio Raytheon's radar for the L. Tams. I wonder.

[Donut Operator]

West Virginia has an issue with inbreeding.

[Brandon Herrera]

Cody, close us out. Beautiful. Go to the after show.

[Eli Double Tap]

Bye, everyone. Everyone, thank you for joining the Unsubscribe podcast. I was joining about Eli Double Tap, habitual line crosser Chris Cappy with Task and Purpose. Brandon Herrera, myself, donut operator. You can join us on the after show on Patreon. Love you.

[Brandon Herrera]

And then Mr. Chris Happy. Where do we find you, you beautiful guys?

[Chris Cappy]

You can follow me on Twitter or Instagram at Cappy Army. Also on YouTube at task and Purpose. And thank you so much. I had so much more weird stuff to get into. But we have to go.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, we got the after show getting weird.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, oh, we go in the weird.

[Brandon Herrera]

Now we need now we got the weird. Weird kisses. See you in like one second.