201 - Two Fake Seals Spill Hollywood Secrets ft. Tyler Grey & AJ Buckley | Unsubscribe Podcast 201

Summary

Podcast Summary: Unsubscribe Podcast Episode 201 - "Two Fake Seals Spill Hollywood Secrets"

Episode Details:

• Title: Unsubscribe Podcast 201 - Two Fake Seals Spill Hollywood Secrets ft. Tyler Grey & AJ Buckley
• Release Date: February 24, 2025
• Hosts/Participants: Donut Operator, Eli Doubletap, Brandon Herrera, Tyler Gray, AJ Buckley

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1. Firearms Industry Insights and Glock Innovations

Timestamp: 00:37 - 17:10

The episode kicks off with an in-depth discussion on the firearms industry, spotlighting Glock's pivotal role and innovations.

• AJ Buckley [00:37]: "First time I learned about the ATF, I did a show called Narcos."
• Donut Operator [11:03]: "Glock started actually by making knives. On the Glock knife is a plastic handle that's injection molded... Gaston Glock was like, 'I think I can make a gun out of it.'"

The hosts delve into Gaston Glock's groundbreaking decision to use polymer materials, challenging industry norms:

• Donut Operator [11:27]: "Gaston Glock's experience with plastic came from making those knives and the plastic scabbards... because he was just like, 'I think I can do that.'"

Comparisons are drawn between Glock and Sig Sauer, emphasizing design reliability and safety:

• Brandon Herrera [14:49]: "That's why Glock lost the contract for the new service pistol... because Glock refused to put a manual safety on a Glock."

Notable Quotes:

• Donut Operator [12:48]: "Here's a fact about a product. Anything is possible."
• Eli Double Tap [16:20]: "Or that's why SIG is ahead of everybody in being innovators."

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2. Personal Journeys in Hollywood and Military Service

Timestamp: 17:10 - 38:04

The conversation transitions to the hosts' personal experiences within the entertainment and military sectors.

• AJ Buckley [20:18]: Details his move from Dublin to acting in "CSI: New York" and later "SEAL Team," sharing a nerve-wracking incident in Iraq:
  "I just remember thinking, 'Dude, I'm going to love this.' Godspeed for both of you."

• Donut Operator [35:36]: Reflects on his acting career, including significant roles and the challenges of filming in tough neighborhoods:
  "If something is what you want to do in life, no matter how good what you have is, you got to reach for the thing that you want to do."

Notable Quotes:

• Donut Operator [38:19]: "If something is what you want to do in life, no matter how good what you have is, you got to reach for the thing that you want to do."
• Brandon Herrera [38:56]: "Before I even agreed to, my bathtub..." (Referring to spontaneous job offers)

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3. Political Commentary: U.S.-Canada Relations and Government Agencies

Timestamp: 38:04 - 58:59

A shift occurs as the hosts critique political dynamics, particularly focusing on U.S.-Canada relations and the inefficiencies within government agencies like the ATF.

• Tyler Gray [53:40]: Criticizes Canadian policies and the skyrocketing cost of living in cities like Vancouver:
  "It's the most expensive city in the world."

• Donut Operator [52:19]: Shares his dealings with the ATF, highlighting both positive and negative experiences:
  "It's scary because you know that if you get the wrong experience, yeah. They can put the hammer down on you."

Notable Quotes:

• Donut Operator [52:19]: "It's scary because you know that if you get the wrong experience, yeah. They can put the hammer down on you."
• Tyler Gray [54:18]: "Vancouver's wild. If you live there, like, cost of living is in."

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4. JFK Assassination Theories and Conspiracies

Timestamp: 58:00 - 90:06

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting JFK assassination theories, blending personal sniper expertise with historical analysis.

• Donut Operator [119:02]:
  "This house that he was killed on no longer exists. The exact spot is different... There's no way he was killed, by the way, according to the official account."

• AJ Buckley [130:03]:
  "They lost his brain from the national archives. That's a big piece of the puzzle."

Notable Quotes:

• Donut Operator [87:00]:
  "The guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald was a mob hitman. That's a known fact."

• Donut Operator [130:34]:
  "He's shooting right shoulder, left. That's what it was."

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5. Political Campaigns and Running for Office

Timestamp: 90:01 - 105:16

Tyler Gray shares his experiences running for Congress in Texas, detailing the arduous journey against well-funded opponents and the use of humorous political ads.

• Tyler Gray [106:38]:
  "I ran for Congress... I forced him into a runoff election where he spent, he outspent me 10 to 1..."

• Brandon Herrera [108:51]:
  "We have a P320. It wasn't his fault."

Notable Quotes:

• Donut Operator [110:17]:
  "The FBI will come to my door again. And they're like, 'Are you watching karaoke?'"

• Tyler Gray [109:56]:
  "It's called catch and release."

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6. Launching "Two Fake Seals" Podcast

Timestamp: 105:16 - 140:48

The hosts introduce their new podcast project, "Two Fake Seals," which aims to blend survival skills with humor and personal growth.

• AJ Buckley [133:42]:
  "We should put the post SEAL team. We should have you actually taking me out into the real world... and we'll stop off and talk to preppers and, you know, just learn along the way."

• Donut Operator [138:55]:
  "We want to start listening how to take care of themselves and not be in a position where they constantly have to rely on other people, let alone the government."

Notable Quotes:

• Donut Operator [138:55]:
  "We want to start listening how to take care of themselves and not be in a position where they constantly have to rely on other people, let alone the government."

• AJ Buckley [135:16]:
  "We love what the show is doing because it's what we like doing. We like that space."

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7. Closing Remarks and Future Plans

Timestamp: 140:48 - End

The episode concludes with the hosts expressing gratitude, sharing humorous moments, and encouraging listeners to follow their new ventures on social media.

• Donut Operator [141:22]:
  "What do you do for Texas?"

• Tyler Gray [141:30]:
  "So you really sold it. I mean, really."

• Donut Operator [141:22]:
  "Remember, you can always reach out on social media at Two Fake Seals or Tyler Gray at Instagram."

Final Remarks:

• Donut Operator:
  "Thank you so much for joining us on the Unsubscribe podcast. We get to meet legends in this space."

• AJ Buckley:
  "Thanks so much for having us, guys. We're stoked."

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Key Takeaways:

• Innovation Driven by Risk: Gaston Glock's use of polymer materials revolutionized the firearms industry, emphasizing the importance of challenging industry norms.
• Personal Resilience: The hosts share their journeys through Hollywood and military service, highlighting the importance of pursuing one's passion despite challenges.
• Critical View on Government Agencies: Experiences with the ATF reveal both the potential for positive interactions and the dangers of bureaucratic overreach.
• Historical Analysis with Personal Expertise: Donut Operator's sniper background provides a unique lens through which JFK assassination theories are examined.
• Political Engagement: Tyler Gray's congressional run underscores the complexities and financial barriers of entering politics.
• New Ventures: The launch of "Two Fake Seals" signifies the hosts' commitment to blending entertainment with practical survival skills, aiming to educate and engage their audience in a humorous yet informative manner.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Donut Operator [11:27]: "Gaston Glock's experience with plastic came from making those knives... Because he was just like, 'I think I can do that.'"
• Donut Operator [38:19]: "If something is what you want to do in life, no matter how good what you have is, you got to reach for the thing that you want to do."
• Donut Operator [52:19]: "It's scary because you know that if you get the wrong experience, yeah. They can put the hammer down on you."
• Donut Operator [87:00]: "The guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald was a mob hitman. That's a known fact."
• Donut Operator [130:34]: "He's shooting right shoulder, left. That's what it was."
• Donut Operator [138:55]: "We want to start listening how to take care of themselves and not be in a position where they constantly have to rely on other people, let alone the government."

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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of Episode 201, highlighting the diverse range of topics discussed, the hosts' personal anecdotes, and their forward-looking projects. Notable quotes with attributions and timestamps are included to emphasize key moments and insights.

Transcript

[Donut Operator]

What you've just heard is one of the many deaths from the monkey. The new major motion picture from Osgood Perkins, Stephen King, and James Wan. Experience it in theaters everywhere this Friday because everybody dies. And that's life.

[AJ Buckley]

Let's have some fun. First time I learned about the atf, I did a show called Narcos.

[Donut Operator]

He played Pablo.

[Brandon Herrera]

They have the company that perfected firearms decades ago and has moved on to Horsecom.

[Tyler Gray]

Dude, I can't wait to make my new rap group Guns and come.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, my God, the Delta guy. Gonna spill all the secret.

[Donut Operator]

Ozzy stuck the Mars freaking Rover.

[Tyler Gray]

Holly stories. How many kids in that basement?

[AJ Buckley]

Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguous. And Brandon, his hair is fabulous. And donut, a dark joke disposition. And there's a fat electrician. Welcome to Unsubscribe.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hilo's gonna like this.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, I'm gonna love this.

[Donut Operator]

We started with this.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hold on, Wait. He's got his can opener.

[Tyler Gray]

Got it. Three, two, one.

[Donut Operator]

Hi, everyone.

[Tyler Gray]

Welcome to the Unsubscribed podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, bat electrician, AJ Buckley, Tyler Gray, Brandon.

[Brandon Herrera]

Herrera, myself, donut operator.

[Tyler Gray]

Thank you so much for being here.

[Eli Double Tap]

We just drank a lot before this.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, Remember, we're professionals.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah, we totally didn't just film the demo leaving episode right before this.

[Brandon Herrera]

We didn't shy. No big deal. Drink six beers and do a shot about it.

[Tyler Gray]

I know.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was like, oh, this is gonna be a fun one. Godspeed for both of you.

[Tyler Gray]

We're gonna be passed out halfway through the episode.

[Brandon Herrera]

How do you guys feel about Karl Marx? No, I'm just kidding.

[Donut Operator]

No, seriously, A.J. and Tyler.

[Tyler Gray]

What are you guys doing in town, man?

[Donut Operator]

Oh, wait, you have to.

[Eli Double Tap]

Did you open Steven?

[Brandon Herrera]

Yes, five seconds ago.

[Eli Double Tap]

Did he say all our names?

[Brandon Herrera]

No, it's a TBI for sure I.

[Tyler Gray]

Said all our names.

[Donut Operator]

Hold on.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm gonna put a second purple heart on your license.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's gone already. I was like, cody's still gonna do introduction.

[Donut Operator]

It's like Eli's brain's like an Etch.

[AJ Buckley]

Is that the Mandela effect?

[Donut Operator]

Like, talking to Eli is like watching the movie Memento.

[Brandon Herrera]

It was funny because I remember thinking, wow, Cody nailed that intro.

[AJ Buckley]

That was a good intro.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, tattoo that. Cody's intro is done.

[Tyler Gray]

I just wrote the note.

[AJ Buckley]

I opened the cans right when I did my.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, cans are open.

[Brandon Herrera]

By the time we all silently agreed to gaslight Eli into thinking we've done the intro, but we actually didn't.

[Donut Operator]

Good time.

[Eli Double Tap]

Go ahead.

[Brandon Herrera]

The intro.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, see Now.

[Donut Operator]

Hi, everyone. Welcome.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, I didn't know 100% in the realm of possibility.

[Brandon Herrera]

We did the intro.

[Eli Double Tap]

You guys should definitely.

[Donut Operator]

You literally just g. Gaslit him that you were gaslighting. Yeah. Guys, join the military.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, honey, you love being gaslit.

[Eli Double Tap]

So glad you can't get a pizza.

[Brandon Herrera]

Purple Heart from.

[Eli Double Tap]

From tbi.

[Donut Operator]

Which a hundred percent should be. Not yet.

[Tyler Gray]

Is that still a thing?

[Donut Operator]

They were talking about it for a while. I don't. I don't know if they did that, but they were. They were talking about it for a while.

[AJ Buckley]

It was one of the.

[Eli Double Tap]

Freddy brought that up. He's like, why don't they get purple Hearts for that? I was like, that is actually a really good.

[Donut Operator]

I'll tell you why they don't. Because everyone would get one. You'd come out and be like, I don't remember anything. They're like, well, Purple Heart. It could be flavored.

[Tyler Gray]

To be fair. That's like World War II. They're like, man, so many people are getting shot. We need to, like, change the criteria for Purple Hearts because everybody would have one.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Like shot twice.

[Tyler Gray]

It's like, well, you still got hurt. That still counts, I feel like.

[Donut Operator]

Exactly.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay, so we have Tyler's back. Our boy Tyler. King of the top episodes on Hansa.

[Donut Operator]

That's shocking to me. Would you guys film to have the.

[Tyler Gray]

The reigning episode? What'd you guys do the first time?

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, Tyler casually was like, you guys ever seen a CQB at 4?

[Donut Operator]

And we're. What?

[Tyler Gray]

It's like thermobaric RPGs or whatever, you guys.

[Eli Double Tap]

And Tyler was like, well, you didn't have one.

[AJ Buckley]

It's like, yes.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's why our face is like.

[Donut Operator]

That's not the technical term. That was our joke term for it was the CQB 84, which is actually a really cool design. It's got a water thing of water in the back. So it basically goes off and the countercharge blows back water. Sweet design.

[Tyler Gray]

Whoever. Pretty fucking neat.

[Eli Double Tap]

Every 11 Bravo has used one.

[Donut Operator]

I forget this short.

[Brandon Herrera]

The shock on his face when a medic from the National Guard never got given a CKD84.

[Donut Operator]

No, I'll tell you. I'll tell you exactly why that episode did well. It was because he put the title Military Secrets question mark. Question mark. That's where it came from. Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

Of the views are from China.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, my God, The Delta guy gonna.

[Brandon Herrera]

Spill all the secret.

[Donut Operator]

You guys see any of those?

[Tyler Gray]

Shot show and all, dude, every year.

[Brandon Herrera]

It blows me away. That's Even allowed.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, yeah, you guys are gonna have. No.

[Donut Operator]

What'd you say? I didn't hear.

[Tyler Gray]

So they're gonna kick out Eli Duckworth for making Glock horse cum jokes at shot show, but they'll allow like 80, 80,000 Chinese nationals to show up and take pictures of all the new products from the American gun industry. Like, you straight up will have Chinese nationals all over the show floor, like, taking pictures. There was one dude this year that had a 3D scanner.

[AJ Buckley]

No way.

[Tyler Gray]

Raisin.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, I. This is a true story. I. So, whoa. I got invited to go run a booth. This is 2013, 14. I don't know. In. @ EWA. Do you guys know what IWA is?

[Tyler Gray]

Yep.

[Donut Operator]

He was like, the German shot show, and it was a very advanced pistol that I was at the booth for. And. And it was. It was pretty cool. It's a pretty revolutionary design. Anyways, I was.

[Tyler Gray]

What was it?

[Donut Operator]

Well, it. At the time, it was the Strike one. The Arsenal Strike one, which has a revolutionary feature, but they screwed up a lot of things. The pistol's been. Now it's being made by. I think a friend of mine actually bought the rights to it. But anyways, it's a very revolutionary design. If you look at the way that the gun works, it's got a low borax. It's very. Actually the lowest there is anyways. And the way it's got a rotating locking block, it's a pretty cool, pretty unique design. And so I'm working at the booth and I'm like, showing how it works. I got my little spiel and this dude comes up. Obviously Chinese.

[Tyler Gray]

How could you tell?

[Donut Operator]

So I've been quite extensively throughout Asia. I've been around Asia. I'm pretty good at wrecking. I can tell the difference. I put it this way. I can tell the difference between Hong Kongese and mainland Chinese. So I'm pretty skilled at it. So you're, like, super racist. I'm super good. I'm super good at it. What exactly are you.

[Tyler Gray]

I want to call you a slur.

[Donut Operator]

So. So I'm like, looking at this guy. I'm like, this is definitely mainland Chinese. This is not even Hong Kongese. And. And basically, dude, you bust out this camera and just starts, like, taking photos, like. And I mean, like, taking it apart photos. And I came over and I was like, what? He didn't even speak English enough to, like, tell me what he was doing. And I literally had to get security to get him away, but he was going around just taking guns apart and just Taking, you know, every 400 images of photos so they can recreate it.

[Tyler Gray]

Just so next year we can see the same pistol at the Hollow sun booth.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Eli Double Tap]

Exactly. The. You did the joke with the ones that wanted your photo.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, so, yeah, it's the one that Nick. Nick made us tell last year. The story where we had some like Chinese YouTubers that came up to us at shot show and like, they want to take a picture and like, as a joke we're all like tipped as hell. So we, we, we go in for the photo and like, right as they're taking the picture, we go communism. And the guy taking the photo goes deadpan and takes the SD card out of the.

[Donut Operator]

Oh my.

[Tyler Gray]

So we probably got him beheaded, dude.

[Donut Operator]

You guys.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's the only time I've seen like they took the, the card out of the camera.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, this year the joke was every time we'd see a group of Chinese nationals, like, I'm just sick of it at this point. It's like, you guys are like, we're basically in a cold war with China at this point and we're just allowing their people to come in and take pictures of all our new. Like, that's. Come on. Are we trying? No.

[Donut Operator]

The answer is no.

[Tyler Gray]

We would just, we would just come up and like, we see a group of them like walking by or like trying to take pictures of. And we just lean in next to their camera and go, tiananmen Square. Can we east or what is it? What do we call them?

[Brandon Herrera]

They really like it when you.

[Donut Operator]

I just got back from Taiwan. I was literally there in December actually.

[Eli Double Tap]

You go everywhere?

[Donut Operator]

I, I, Yeah, I've been around recently. I hate traveling, but I love it too.

[Eli Double Tap]

I know by the time you're calling me, it's like two in the morning. Like I was asleep. I was like, why? It's like midday for me.

[Donut Operator]

Weird.

[AJ Buckley]

You were in Australia and New Zealand. We were trying to connect and get stuff.

[Donut Operator]

It was like. Yeah, it was horrible. Yeah, it was a nightmare. I feel like we, we brushed over something that I feel like I need more information on. Kicked out a shot coat, shot show for some horse cum. I. What?

[Brandon Herrera]

Are you familiar with Glock?

[Donut Operator]

I've heard of stuff a little bit, yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

So they primarily make their income manufacturing in Georgia.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, like what product?

[Donut Operator]

Oh, Derek.

[Brandon Herrera]

Glock Firearms. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Would you guess the other product that they're known for selling?

[Donut Operator]

I guess it's horse cum.

[Tyler Gray]

Equine semen. Correct.

[Donut Operator]

What?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's a full ass thing.

[AJ Buckley]

What?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, there's a lot of money, man.

[Brandon Herrera]

Glock sells pistols and cum. They don't like it when you joke about it for some reason.

[Tyler Gray]

No, legitimately, like, you know, that's like a really higher tier thing in Europe where they're just like, oh, yeah, well, you've made millions and millions of dollars, I guess. Obviously you're gonna get into the racehorse game.

[Donut Operator]

Interesting.

[AJ Buckley]

Racehorse gun.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah. So they legitimately have a like equestrian section of.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's not regular horse.

[Tyler Gray]

That's weird. Guns and guns.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's the good horse.

[Donut Operator]

I can't wait to make my new.

[Tyler Gray]

Rap group guns and come.

[Donut Operator]

That's crazy. Glock started actually by making knives. Yep.

[AJ Buckley]

Really? No.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. So the so interesting story, they first made knives. They still make the Glock knife, but on the Glock knife is a plastic handle that's injection molded. And that's why his. Gaston Glock's experience with plastic came from making those knives and the plastic scabbards. He was like, I know plastics. Well, I'm pretty sure I can make a gun out of it. And the interesting thing I'll say about this with the firearms industry or every industry is, you know, when Gaston Glock was like, hey, I think I can make a slide out of plastic. Everyone was like, that's insane. A frame has to be metal. Plastic frames will never work. It just goes to show you. And Gaston Glock's like, eh, I've been working with plastics for quite a few years. I think you're wrong. And then boom. Now everyone, it's like innovation. I'm gonna tell you right now, here's a fact about a product. Anything is possible. Period. Anything is possible. And anytime any industry in the gun industry is excessively bad at it. And the movie industry is the same. They go, oh, that can't possibly work. And then someone goes, I think it can. They do it. It works. And then everyone goes, let's all do that. Every fucking brand now, to include brands that made only metal frames, are making plastic frames. But it started with Gaston Glock. All because he was just like, I think I can do that.

[Tyler Gray]

Every time you go to shot show and there's a new Glock killer. It looks exactly like a Glock. Oh, exactly the same way we're introducing.

[Donut Operator]

A striker fired pistol. It's like, yeah, no shit. That's like. He came up with that in 1983. Good work.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah, congrats. You're half a century behind.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, you guys laugh, but Sig figured out how to make them shoot themselves. So It's a real innovator here.

[Tyler Gray]

Their collaboration with Isaac Newton.

[Donut Operator]

Wait, who shoot what they're shooting?

[Brandon Herrera]

That was a P320 joke. How they just have a tendency to go off on their own.

[Donut Operator]

Really. They had even dropped.

[Eli Double Tap]

There was like videos.

[Donut Operator]

I know the Taurus. The Taurus was having that issue like the Bretta. The tour spread a copy. It was like in Brazil, they like threw it on the ground.

[Tyler Gray]

The 320.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

So for, for fat pews, me and Pew Views show we're doing a P320 versus a Glock 19. And we're. We're going to use blanks, obviously, but we're going to have the loaded gun and we're going to see what it takes to actually make them go off by dropping them. And I've just. I already. We have a. We have a. A grain silo that's like four stories high that we're already going to go and throw the glock and the P320 off of loaded to see if they go off.

[Donut Operator]

Wow.

[Brandon Herrera]

I guarantee you I can overhand a Glock at a brick wall as hard as I can.

[Donut Operator]

A Glock has three drop safeties. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's impossible to make a Glock go design that way.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

God, I have so many questions.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, what a lot of people don't know is that it's illegal to import. I believe, I believe this is correct. It's illegal to import a pistol that doesn't at least have one safety or like a certain amount of redundancies on the safety, probably.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, that makes sense. I know Glock has three. The, the way the pistol is designed.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's why it's stupid that Glock lost the contract for the new service pistol to whatever they named the P320. It's the same. So like M17 beat it out for the military contract for the sole reason that Glock refused to put a manual safety on a Glock because it's just fucking quadruple overkill, you know, I mean.

[Donut Operator]

So I'll tell you another Glock story. Because a gun nerd.

[Eli Double Tap]

And yeah, you've handled one or something.

[Donut Operator]

People are going to learn something. So, yeah, no, so. So Glock, here's the interesting thing. And this is why Glock. This is why Glock is Glock, is because the reason that he made a Glock was because at that time, again, this is the late 70s, early 80s, and he looked at it and you had two pistols. You had a revolver and you had an automatic, all automatics. I mean, And I'm all right. There's exceptions to everything, but most. The vast majority of semiautomatics had a manual safety. And there were massive statistics on how many times somebody drew and didn't remember to take off the manual safety and therefore didn't fire around and were killed. So Gaston Clock, being the genius he was, he's like, now that didn't exist for a revolver. You pull out a double action revolver, floor, pull the trigger, it fires. So he's like, now, who was using revolvers at the time? Cops. Glock wanted to make a gun for the military and law enforcement. So he's like, I want a gun that's semi automatic, but when you pull it out, it just fires. You don't have to manually train to put off a safety. So he was like, well, why don't I put the safety into the trigger? And he did that so that you could just pull and worry about shooting, not have to extra train. So really, the Glock was designed to reduce the amount of training it took to fire a service weapon in combat.

[Tyler Gray]

Or that's why SIG is ahead of everybody in being innovators, because you don't even have to pull them out.

[Donut Operator]

They're like, how do we one up Glock? What if you don't even need to shoot it?

[Tyler Gray]

Eli saw the smirk and knew exactly.

[Donut Operator]

Where that was going. But. So the last part of that is the reason that the Glock replaced, specifically the Glock replaced double action revolvers for law enforcement is because it was the same in training. You pull it out, you pull the trigger, it fires. There wasn't a need to retrain a department in semi automatics to replace their revolvers. And that's why Glock, I mean, one of the reasons Glock is so prevalent in law enforcement.

[AJ Buckley]

Do gun companies, do they do recalls then? If there's, if there's an issue with.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

So is that. Is that a recalled gun then? Glock? No, no. For the Sig. For the Sig.

[Brandon Herrera]

So there's been a couple. They also have.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, it's not like a Jeep, you know, take your gun to the gunsmith.

[Tyler Gray]

It has happened.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, we fixed it. Blah, blah. But I mean, the Reese, all the recent ones are like, I've seen the videos where it's like a cop just like literally talking to somebody and his gun just goes off. And they're like, what the. In the Holst completely holstered gun and he's like talking and it's just like security cam footage and the gun just goes Off. And Glock is like, are you sure.

[Donut Operator]

That wasn't a pager?

[Brandon Herrera]

He re holstered that Sig. Sorry?

[AJ Buckley]

Sig.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, Sig is like. He re holstered that the wrong way.

[Donut Operator]

Wow.

[Eli Double Tap]

Whoa.

[Tyler Gray]

My bad, Gaston. God rest his name, but never let that fly.

[Eli Double Tap]

But it is security footage of it sitting in a holster and going off. Dropping. Going off. Like. And then people trying to prove it doesn't go off when they drop it and it going, oh, no.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was a whole thing. And then they're like, send us back in if you want.

[AJ Buckley]

We'll fix it if you want.

[Tyler Gray]

It's just like a known thing now that happens. And like, all Sig fanboys are just like, okay with it. It's pretty funny. Like, I don't. I don't dislike Sig. Like, I have a couple of their guns and like, you know, perfectly acceptable gun, but let's just not pretend like that's not a prevalent issue.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, I mean, you have two options. You have the company still trying to perfect firearms, and you have the company that perfected firearms decades ago and has moved on to horse.

[Eli Double Tap]

Which one do you know?

[Brandon Herrera]

Tell me about Horse Cup.

[Donut Operator]

Let's fucking go.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Tyler Gray]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Tyler Gray]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

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[AJ Buckley]

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[AJ Buckley]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Your confidence from head to toe with Mando. AJ what is your background and everything?

[AJ Buckley]

I was born in Dublin and I.

[Donut Operator]

Hey.

[AJ Buckley]

Hi.

[Donut Operator]

Hey. Damn it.

[AJ Buckley]

Shell's not here. Yeah, I left Ireland when I was 6 and went to Vancouver, Canada. I was in Canada till I was 17. Then I booked a movie in. In Vancouver that brought me down to la and then just. Yeah, my career just sort of started there. I always wanted to be an actor and stuff since I was five. That was the only thing I ever wanted to do. But you went down Los Angeles and went out for an audition when I was there, got an agent and ended up booking the first job there. And then it was, it was, it was. It wasn't that. I mean, I ended up.

[Brandon Herrera]

Sorry, what, like a year? Ish.

[Donut Operator]

This was 1982.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, this was two. 2001. 2002. And then thinking a bit of a dry spell, lit it on my car for about a year and a half because I was too old to play like a cop. Too. Too old to. To play like, high school and too young to play copper. And they had like peach fuzz. Like, we just, just started to shave and. And then it kind of went through this really sort of rough spell. Got messed up with the wrong people and like everything. Hollywood's like this pretty flower that just like eat you alive and watch this end you home. So then I just figured I was like, should I go home and, you know, get a 9 to 5? Which is nothing wrong with 9 to 5, but like, no, it.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'll just, you know, Canada was the issue.

[AJ Buckley]

Canada was cool back then, but. Yeah. And then the future.

[Tyler Gray]

51St state.

[AJ Buckley]

Exactly. And then I. I was. It was probably 2007 when things started, turned around again. I was at like $32.95 to myself at. I got the bankruptcy from Wells Fargo that day and I got a call. I booked CSI New York because at the time when the CSI New York was the third of the franchise that came out and then I booked a series regular on that and then my sort of life changed forever.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, with Gary Sinise was the star of that.

[AJ Buckley]

Nine years, nine seasons of that with Gary Hooch. I don't know if you guys have ever met Gary or have ever had him on the show.

[Tyler Gray]

Rad dude, though.

[AJ Buckley]

Honestly, he is the greatest. I really mean this. There's not many human beings on this planet that I just. He is the most selfless human being ever. He. He would do things during CSI New York that there was no cameras there. Like he would help to build houses. He would just do things out of his own pocket and just. And it was never cameras. He just the amount of stuff that he's done to, to the veteran community and then how the foundation is run, the Gary sun foundation and that the. All the money goes to the, the people. Like you'd actually sees in the amount of how just everything that he's done and what he represents. He's sort of the gold standard I feel of foundations.

[Tyler Gray]

Did all of that like kind of come from the Lieutenant Dan Roll?

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, he was really, he was really in is. He comes from a military family and yeah, but the Lieutenant Dan Roll really did that and he started The Gary. The Lt. Dan Band and then he. I mean every other weekend he's at a hospital or he's at some event or he's at so things. So I, when we got sealed to him I called him up, was like hey, how do I, how do I get really get involved in this? Like actually in 2008 he sent me. He. I was like I want to go overseas. So he sent me. 2008 I went over to Iraq and dude, it was crazy. I had no clue what you went 2008? Yeah. Right when you guys were doing the push to Afghanistan.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, like that was still. I went early.

[AJ Buckley]

I stayed at Camp Liberty at the, at Saddam's palace there.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

I think the three star general was like General to Kobe. I think his name was.

[Eli Double Tap]

That was early 2008.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, yeah. No, and. But it was crazy. Like I went there to. We pull up, we flew into Kuwait and then we took a C17 to Delta FOB and I'll never forget this like flying in and they did. The guy didn't like we all had like a person that was with us like team guy or whatever. Like this is your, your buddy. Like. And I was like oh, wide eyed. And this guy like oh fuck, I got this idiot.

[Tyler Gray]

That's so wild dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're going into a car like this, this surge Iraq, that's what's more wild to me. I'm like oh man, no clue.

[AJ Buckley]

And the guy, the guy's like, he's like you like, you like. Are you scared of playing flying or anything? I'm like no, I'm good. I'm fired up. This is great. He's like okay. He's like, just get ready. He's gonna get weird. I'm like, why? And just as he said that, it did that like, strategic dive down to.

[Donut Operator]

Below map of the Earth.

[AJ Buckley]

It was. I was like, oh, my gosh. I thought I was dying. I didn't know I was gonna like players.

[Donut Operator]

It's like aliens and it's like, you know, he's like on the drop ship.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. So we went to. We flew into Camp Liberty and we stayed there. We're there for 15 days. And then we would go out each day to different fobs and hang for a day or two at the fob. Some days we got there would be a sandstorm and we'd have to stay. But it was awesome. Like, it was a real, real cool thing. I remember one of the days going over Solder City. We. We.

[Donut Operator]

Nice.

[AJ Buckley]

I will never. This is like, true story. I literally pissed my pants. Like, literally pissed my pants in front of a bunch of people. I was so scared. Such. We're going. We're going over in the Blackhawk and we had like Blackhawks and there was some Apaches and we're going over. And I guess whatever happened, they picked up that there's some radar or something was on it. And our Blackhawk like turns and flares start going. And I don't know what's happened on. But everything went quiet on the comms. And these were. They were firing. Dude, I pissed myself. I was like. I thought. And I have like a camcorder, like the tour, like, oh, my God.

[Tyler Gray]

I mean, fair enough.

[AJ Buckley]

And I'd never heard a.50 cal go off before. Like, this is way before Seal Team. So I'd never. I didn't know what the hell. And then it was crazy. When we landed, the kid that, like, shot the gun, he's like. He watched the show. He's like, can I get a picture with you? Well, he had that halo looking mask on him.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, the big one.

[AJ Buckley]

And this would be way before Halo. But it was like just. I was just like, oh, yeah. Of course he took it off. And like, this kid was so, like, he was younger than me. He said some peach fuzz and I was like, this had balls of steel while I was sitting in the back pissing my pants. So. And then I also got on my first Blackhawk ride. I went to the right side in the back seat. So that air was like, ah, just eating the air for like. It was. It was pretty painful for. I thought, like, this will. This will end at some point. It was like 30 minutes later. It was like, yeah, but when getting.

[Eli Double Tap]

Off that far, when you get off in, like, Kuwait.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

How hot it is.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, and we did smell.

[AJ Buckley]

So we. We went to the.

[Donut Operator]

Turn right.

[AJ Buckley]

To the Air Force base there in Kuwait is where they had us staying at. But what I couldn't believe is, like, we. When we landed, they had us like a convoy, which now from the show, like, where we'd have, like, the lead vehicle. Then we'd be in the middle, and they just wouldn't stop for anything. And I was just like, oh, my God, this is nuts. Like, just going through all things. Like, see passing camels on the road, and they pull in this hotel and there's a TGI Friday in a Starbucks. I'm like, what the fuck?

[Donut Operator]

He did say it was an Air Force base.

[Brandon Herrera]

Wow.

[Eli Double Tap]

Movie theater.

[Tyler Gray]

It reminds me of. I don't know if you've ever brought this up in a video. I know. I think you have the deployable.

[Brandon Herrera]

The deployable Burger King.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

America has a deployable Burger King that can be anywhere in the world in 24 hours.

[Tyler Gray]

That's what we refer to as a.

[Brandon Herrera]

Tap collapse semi trailer that you can pull out of a C130. And it's a fully operational Burger King.

[Donut Operator]

Somebody's getting money for that. Behind this, there's.

[AJ Buckley]

There's still. Every once in a while, on a road trip, Mr. Canal Whopper. The Whoppers. Like, everyone's like, a bad road trip. You get a Whopper. Whoppers are still. They're still. They'll shit your pants after, but it's. It's worth it. Just a Whopper or the chicken sandwich. I'll go for it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Could you imagine being an enemy of America? Being like, oh, I haven't had food in a little while. Supply lines are weak. And then America pulls a Burger King out of a plane. Oh.

[Eli Double Tap]

Walks out in his costume.

[Tyler Gray]

Europeans have to look at that and think that's the most American.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

I think I started to bring this up and, like, got interrupted in a previous podcast. But, like, I. You don't know the chocolate cake story, do you? From World War II.

[AJ Buckley]

What?

[Brandon Herrera]

The whole.

[Tyler Gray]

So the ice cream story.

[Donut Operator]

I don't know.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, there's the ice cream ships. That was with Japan. That was like, when Japan realized we were. Is when they found out we had entire naval vessels whose whole job was to make ice cream for the Navy in World War II. But on the German historian, on the German front, like, there's a. I haven't read the actual one because I can't read German, but allegedly there's, like, a German officer that they interviewed, and they were like, so, like, yeah. When did, when did you realize the war was over? And he's like, we intercepted American male. And, like, in the mail on the front line, somebody had shipped him a chocolate cake, and it was still good. And he's like, that's when we realized that, like, the American logistics is gonna win this war no matter what we're. They just got a chocolate cake to the front lines from the other side of the planet.

[Tyler Gray]

Before it got in the 40s.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

In the 40s.

[AJ Buckley]

Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's what we're. How was it like when you started, like, doing that? That is a wild public. So that's, that's awesome. You went through that experience. You signed up for that. You're like, I want to do.

[AJ Buckley]

I wanted, I really wanted to go. I, I, I saw what the. I'd seen the Gary Sinise, the Lieutenant Bay, he would throw a concert every year for the entire CBS lot that we're actually. The crazy thing is where we filmed CSI New York at cbs, Radford ended up being the same studio that we. We filmed SEAL Team at. Like, so, like, five years, six years later, came back at the same stage. We were on stage three for nine seasons.

[Donut Operator]

You ever told me that?

[AJ Buckley]

And then stage 23, we were on that stage for seven seasons. So that that studio became like a second home. And. But the Gary Sees would throw a big fucking party for them. And I met a bunch of guys and was hearing the stories, and again, it was very fresh. It was like, you know, and it was.

[Brandon Herrera]

How far into, like, your professional acting career are you at this time when you went over.

[AJ Buckley]

This is my first real, like, CSI New York changed my life completely.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, how many years into that?

[Donut Operator]

Oh, I'd be.

[AJ Buckley]

So I start. I got my first gig on the X files, like, season one of the X Files.

[Donut Operator]

AJ's been in a ton of stuff, and he looks. I can say this. He looks. I, I've, I, I had worked with AJ for probably a year, and then he starts posting clips of stuff he's done. I'm like, I know. Like, I remember that. That was you. Dude looks. He's like Gary Oldman. He looks completely different in each role. Like, completely. Doesn't even look like himself right now. Like, I multiple. Did he. He could show you the, the role he did on. On the Entourage. Yeah, Entourage, dude. Does he.

[Tyler Gray]

Entourage, dude.

[AJ Buckley]

Did you remember his boyfriend? Oh, shit, yeah. Like, give me the coke.

[Donut Operator]

That's him. Yeah, he starts posting stuff. I'm like, I didn't even know that was, was you. Yeah, he crushed it. He looks very different in, in each role. I mean, in CSI New York, he's, he's a nerd. He's literally a computer nerd or a.

[AJ Buckley]

I was a friend of pathologist.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

But I remember the day like when they were testing me out for it and I'm super dyslexic and I really trouble reading anything.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, you'll get along with all of us.

[AJ Buckley]

And so I can't read. I have to hear fucking everything and to memorize it. But, but so the day that they wanted to test me for the show, they had me come because they're going through lab texts. Everyone. I was this there to drive the story. I would show up on page nine, I'm out on page 33, 34, unless they let me out of the lab, which was only three times and every girl I had got murdered. So it was a sad case. So. But the first word I had to say, and it was with Gary Sinise. And I knew that this is my test. Like, it's a fill me down thing. And so, and, and usually I have like, you'd have like a day or two with the lines to memorize it. They were just like, come down to the set, here's your stuff. Go. So I see this big monologue stuff. I'm like, oh, please, God. This like make my brain work. So for some reason I, I. When the, the first word was methoxydisopropyl tryptamine and that with the word was like that, which is basically yes, bro.

[Donut Operator]

I was like.

[AJ Buckley]

I remember every, I remember everything, every single big word on that show because it would haunt me. Get through. I get through this to start doing the scene and I'm flubbing over the stuff and I'm just, I'm totally sweating. I keep hitting over like thermals and all this other stuff. And the director calls cut. And I think, all right, they're going to. I'm done. And the, the showrunner, Pam Besse is like, she's like, hey. She's yelling from behind the moss. She's like, keep. Whatever that choice you're doing of playing them really nervous is hysterical. Keep doing that. That. We love that. I'm like, oh my God, that was on purpose. She totally got this coming in and doing this like, like this fumbling, rumbling guy.

[Tyler Gray]

I'm a method.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm so good. I can make myself sweat like this.

[AJ Buckley]

And I was like, the character's name was Mac, and I'd be Mac Mac. And I was like. So then the writer started to write me. Mumbling and bumbling through the things as they're like, we love this dude. Great choice. And I was like. Wasn't until, like, years later, like, I'd done. I'm like, guys, I was actually shitting my pants. And they're like, what? I'm like, no, this is not a character. Like, I'm still. When you give me big words, I'm really terrified. And Gary.

[Donut Operator]

And Gary.

[AJ Buckley]

Years there telling you this. Gary has this, like. I had such admiration for him for everything he did on stage. And Steppenwolf and, like, you know, he's forced Gump. 10. 10. So as an actor was just somebody that I. I really admired. But he had this thing that in the scenes, he would just. His character would just stare at you and just, like, really just stare. Yeah, just. He looked pissed off all the time. And I'm getting in my own head, I'm like, oh, God, he hate Gary. Hates me. Gary saved me. So I'm thinking this in my head while I'm doing the scene, and then it's just making it worse. And I'd always be like, see, I'm like, area. Like, I'd say, I have his way and stuff. And I told him later, like, dude, I was. He was like, what? He's like, you were. I'm like, I thought. He was like, nah, man. He's like, I was just. I was just in the scene, looking at. He was like. And in my mind, I'm thinking, this character Adam's an idiot, you know, But I know you're not a real idiot, aj. I'm like, oh, thanks.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just your character.

[Brandon Herrera]

Let me say, aj.

[Donut Operator]

You really sold it. I mean, really.

[AJ Buckley]

But it was. Yeah, it was. But that show was. Yeah. Massive game changer.

[Donut Operator]

So, aj, you know, I'll tell this story. So when I show up on the show. I'm sorry. On SEAL Team, dude, I said, they're like, hey, can you. They called me up on, like, a Wednesday, and they're like, hey, can you be in New Orleans on Friday? You know, for. I think it was six weeks. And I was like, oh, shit, man. You know, Like, I. And I had to move a lot of stuff around at that time. I literally. I actually quit a job to go work on sale team, which is a whole story in itself. But, dude, they're hitting me up for, like, I'm figuring out my life. Like, I gotta. I literally quit a really good job to go do this, which was a huge risk, by the way, which I'll just tell that story very quickly because I think it's important. I got called. I wanted to work in Hollywood. And, you know, I. When I got the. I got a big movie. When they called for Squad, they're like, hey, can you leave?

[Tyler Gray]

Which one?

[Donut Operator]

The first one. First one. I'm so sorry. Oh, dude, it was actually awesome. They. So I'm friends with David, who directed Ayer, who directed it. I mean, what we shot was an awesome movie. What was edited was not enough.

[Tyler Gray]

That's what I hear.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. But I'm telling you right now, I was there for six months filming.

[Tyler Gray]

What we shot was awesome.

[Donut Operator]

A very good movie. What was edited? What was shot was not a comedy. What do you mean?

[Tyler Gray]

The studio can fuck up a good production.

[Donut Operator]

I know it's shocking, but.

[AJ Buckley]

What was.

[Donut Operator]

Shot was a lot of good stuff. I mean, dude, they could have edited an entire movie of just Joker and Harley Quinn. Like, they had enough footage to just do an entire movie with them. And I was actually. So there's actually a scene, by the way, that I'm in that you don't know it, but the scene where the Joker goes into Harley Quinn's. Harley Quinn's cell. There's a guy that opens. Excuse me. The door.

[Tyler Gray]

Like the tail end of the movie.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it's a very. In the movie, I think it's actually the last scene where there's a guy in a gas mask. He opens the door for Joker. Joker goes in and then he guards the door. That's me wearing a gas mask. I couldn't. I had to have a gas mask because I'm actually in the movie as a good guy, so I couldn't also be a bad guy. But anyways, I just did that. Anyways, dude, there was a lot of good. There was a lot of dialogue in that scene. Just that disappeared. But that scene was shot for, like, you know, an hour on screen. And it's, you know, 30 seconds in the movie. Anyways, when I got that job offer, call me up, hey, six months in Toronto. Can you leave in three days? And I'm like. So it was a big life decision. I'm like, this is the direction I want to go. So I dropped everything and made some pretty serious ramifications to the relationship. I was in time and was like, this is a direction I want to go. And I left and I got. I ended up technically getting SEAL Team. That call directly from that SEAL Team happens. And again, I get a call can you leave in a couple days for six weeks? I had a really good job at the time, and I was just like, man, I got it. I got to try. I got to try. And so I quit that job and ended up going. My pull point of this is, dude, if something is what you want to do in life, no matter how good what you have is, you got to reach for the thing that you want to do. And I can tell you it was those two decisions were the debatably. Two of the best decisions I made in my life was letting go of what I had to try and grab on to what I want, you know?

[Eli Double Tap]

And everyone at this table.

[Donut Operator]

No, I know. I know everyone here agrees with that, but I want to say it to the audience, because if those decision points come up in your life, go. Just go. Don't be scary. As it's gonna be scary. Don't think too hard. Go. Reach out towards what you want.

[Tyler Gray]

And you can definitely fail. Like, you could it up. Yeah, but you'll never regret it.

[Donut Operator]

No, no, you can fuck it up, but when that opportunity comes up again, try it again. So the story I was going to tell is, dude, during that decision time, when I'm like. I'm trying to, like. I'm, like, making major changes to my life, I'm getting a text twice a day from the damn producer going, hey, aj, Buckley really wants to talk to you. He's ready to go. He's looking forward to talking to the military guy. Can you take him shooting? I'm like, dude, I haven't even agreed to do the job yet. And they're just like, man, he's wearing. Go. I literally got 10 or 12 texts.

[AJ Buckley]

Before I even agreed to my bathtub coming up out of my bath.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah. He's like. He's, like, doing. Breathing. It was bananas. But. But I show up, man. And, yeah, AJ and I just started rocking and rolling.

[AJ Buckley]

But, yeah, we hit it off.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, we hit it off.

[Eli Double Tap]

What was like. You're like, okay, I've done X, Y, and Z. Flew over, pissed myself. Flying in.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Blackhawk. And now working with Tyler.

[AJ Buckley]

Well, crazy thing. So I started watching a bunch of different shows, and I watched the selection, which. That he did with his History Channel or whatever.

[Donut Operator]

Or was it.

[AJ Buckley]

It was like. Yeah, it was like, what that Fox show is.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, no, no, it was History Channel.

[AJ Buckley]

Sorry, what that Fox show is now where. What is it called?

[Donut Operator]

Special Forces.

[AJ Buckley]

Special Forces. So it's the. It's. This was a Special Forces one, but theirs was, like, the first one So I was watching. It was like. And me and my wife were like, oh, this tire guy. So I literally when I first met him. Oh, you're Tyler Graves.

[Donut Operator]

He actually knew who I was.

[AJ Buckley]

You're from that show. So I was Ari fanboying. And then we. I just like, I wanted to. Because I had. I didn't grow up shooting guns. Really. I shot like a handgun.

[Donut Operator]

You already said you're from Canada.

[Brandon Herrera]

Canadians.

[Donut Operator]

It was out there.

[AJ Buckley]

So. So we had UK first. So we. So then I was with you on the ship that we're out there shooting when first night I'd shot the 249.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

And I aware how many Irish people.

[Donut Operator]

I pissed off by saying that I.

[AJ Buckley]

Didn'T want to bring it up and.

[Brandon Herrera]

Make it more awkward.

[Tyler Gray]

Those who don't know that was a dig.

[Eli Double Tap]

Part owner of this. She is from Ireland and moved here too.

[Tyler Gray]

I looked around, she wasn't there. And then I felt like a dipshit.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. I was like, where's in Ireland? Is she from.

[Donut Operator]

Is she from Babylon?

[Brandon Herrera]

Ireland?

[AJ Buckley]

Ireland. Her Andrew tastes big.

[Donut Operator]

Both of them. Her.

[Eli Double Tap]

Her and her husband moved here three years ago.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, wow.

[AJ Buckley]

Dude. If you ever get a chance to go to Ireland, I highly recommend it.

[Tyler Gray]

What do you mean? She's from the white part.

[AJ Buckley]

You guys should go do a podcast though. Graph shows you should definitely go to Ireland though. It is. You will get like get to the countryside and. And just rent a car and do the coast. It's. It'll be by far one of the best trips you ever had in your life. Really? Yeah. You guys should go do a podcast there.

[Brandon Herrera]

How long is the drive for the coast around?

[Tyler Gray]

You could do it from here to Ireland.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like once you get there, I think.

[AJ Buckley]

You could do it and like if. Are you stopping or not stop?

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, whatever.

[AJ Buckley]

You could. You could do the entire coast and be a good trip. Like it like 10 days and stop like in a bed and breakfast and have a day or two here. Like. But awesome. Like just like the village. You go to these tiny little villages and it's right out of a storybook. But you just like, the Irish people are so welcome. They just open the door. Like as soon as you meet them. They'll like invite you to like, you stay at their house. Like they'll give the shirt off the back to you.

[Donut Operator]

There's a Guinness.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. They'll like, Guinness is a whole. You'll learn the true proper way to pour a pint of Guinness. And the Guinness here and the Guinness there taste a hundred percent different. Like My mother used to pour. The doctors used to prescribe Guinness for the kids.

[Tyler Gray]

I love this country.

[AJ Buckley]

If they were low, if you were lower in like you're in iron, the doctor would say, I just pour some Guinness in his porridge. So they would get Guinness.

[Donut Operator]

And would you just say porridge?

[Tyler Gray]

I believe so.

[Donut Operator]

Okay.

[Eli Double Tap]

This is our boy Connor.

[AJ Buckley]

Where the other guy?

[Eli Double Tap]

Cody.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

Where'd he go?

[Tyler Gray]

Hi everyone.

[Brandon Herrera]

Historytism, you know. And the cans of Guinness, there's that little ball at the bottom for like keeping the foam right, like it's on tap. That was the invention of the year in 1999.

[AJ Buckley]

Was it really?

[Brandon Herrera]

You want to know what it beat out from second place?

[AJ Buckley]

What?

[Brandon Herrera]

The Internet?

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

No way. That is.

[Tyler Gray]

I still want to know where that.

[Donut Operator]

Helps you if you're low in iron.

[AJ Buckley]

So. Well, the doctors, the Guinness would be delivered with when the, the milkman would come around and they dropped, they would drop off Guinness and milk and the.

[Donut Operator]

Guinness man in Ireland banging the Guinness man.

[AJ Buckley]

I look a lot like the, the Guinness man. But yeah, we, they would pour Guinness on your, on our, on our oatmeal. And, and then like I always remember like my, like when we were sick.

[Eli Double Tap]

Never had that before.

[AJ Buckley]

When we were sick we would have whiskey, like hot water, whiskey and sugar. And they'd wrap us up in a.

[Tyler Gray]

Blanket, kind of like a hot toddy.

[AJ Buckley]

Hot toddy. But then we'd be like four years old and like that's why they call.

[Donut Operator]

It a hot toddy. It's a hot toddler. Literally wrap a hot towel around their head and give them alcohol.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, there you go.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's so docile.

[AJ Buckley]

But next time you have it, Guinness in port. If the, the proper times to drink, if you get like a quarter, right, and you hold the pint glass and if you, when you first pour it, you'll hit it, it'll have like a sound to it and when it's ready to drink, it'll go tink, tink, tinker. Everything just sort of settles in it. So. And one of the things I'll teach is like when you're over in Ireland, when everybody's pint glass is about here, order the round. Because everybody, ever, you don't buy ever a drink for yourself, you buy for the table you're at. It's just very rude. If you have cigarettes, you throw them in the tape in the middle of the table. Like it's just a very community based thing. And so if you see sitting down at a table, you, you buy a round for everyone but don't order it way down here. Because a proper pint of Guinness takes like, five or so minutes for it to settle and pour the thing. So you heard a big thing. You don't want to break stride. So if you're the idiot at the table that doesn't know and it's your round and you miss thing, that everybody's waiting, and then you're that guy. So you sort of gauge it halfway through. Everyone's there and comes around. If you have 10 pints of Guinness, like, you're full. But there's less calories in a Guinness than there is in a Coors Light.

[Donut Operator]

What?

[Brandon Herrera]

Anxiety about drinking in Ireland.

[Donut Operator]

Oh.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm like, hope I don't to read the long paragraph when it's my turn.

[Tyler Gray]

He's drinking so fast.

[Donut Operator]

Sounds expensive.

[Tyler Gray]

Connor's ashing in the middle.

[Donut Operator]

Is that rude?

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't remember.

[AJ Buckley]

I remember taking my cousin to. We were in Mexico, came to visit and in Ireland, when you asked him how, like, how's. How's the. If it's a good time, you say, how's the crack? So how's the crack? So you would say, how's the crack? So if you're out on a night. We were crack. Like, crack. Like the crack.

[Donut Operator]

It's very different question.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. So we're in Mexico. My cousin kept saying to people downtown.

[Tyler Gray]

San Antonio, they asked the same question, how's the crack?

[AJ Buckley]

How's the crack? And people that, like, people are looking like, what? And like, dude, you can't say that. We're gonna throw in a gym. So of course you have a few pints on me, like, hey, oh, you want husk crack? And then, like, everyone would turn to you. Like, it's like a. It's a weird segue. It's like everyone's having, like, tequila and something. My cousin would be randomly like, how is the crack? And everyone would stop, be like, what the is this guy on about?

[Tyler Gray]

I've heard show and Dave say that before. It's like, what's.

[AJ Buckley]

How's it cracking?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

What's going on?

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah, what's cracking?

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. So what's cracking? But it's just like. But when someone says it late night at a club or walking up to someone, how's the crack? You sing to the. You know, anyone did. He would say to everybody.

[Brandon Herrera]

So, yeah, me and Trout were just talking about Irishmen going to Mexico last night at three in the morning.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, no.

[Donut Operator]

During the Spanish American War.

[AJ Buckley]

What happened?

[Brandon Herrera]

There was a bunch of Irish people have random conversations.

[Donut Operator]

Anything Historical is actually not random. Because of him. You. You literally. Am I correct in saying you literally have a degree in history?

[Brandon Herrera]

No, I just read Constant.

[Donut Operator]

He's got an intense. Hence historical knowledge, autism.

[Brandon Herrera]

Try to. During the Mexican American War, there's a bunch of Irish guys that came over and they basically got drafted to get their citizenship in exchange. And so they had entire, like, brigades of just straight up Irish dudes that were getting their citizenship and fighting in the Mexican American War. Go ahead.

[Donut Operator]

There's a guy. What is his name? He's a famous gunfighter. He was one of them. He's my favorite. I gotta remember what his name is. Oh, my. I'm. Look it up. But he. He got draft or. I don't know. I think he volunteered actually for the American War. He was Irish and he became this, like. I think it's. I'm gonna look it up.

[Brandon Herrera]

Go ahead.

[Donut Operator]

Sorry. No, you guys go ahead.

[Brandon Herrera]

Anyways, all these Irish dudes, all these Irish stories were in a unit together. It's like they're all from Ireland getting their American citizenship or whatever, and they go down and start fighting the Mexicans. And after a little while they're like.

[Donut Operator]

Wait, is this history or.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, this is real life.

[Tyler Gray]

The great American pastime.

[Donut Operator]

No, I'm sorry, I didn't know if this was current or historical. I got confused. I was like, wait a minute, are we talking about today history? Yeah, this is the last Thursday.

[Tyler Gray]

I still want you to tell your fortnite.

[Brandon Herrera]

All these Irish dudes get over there and they're like, you guys are Catholic too. Fuck. Tortillas are awesome. They literally ended up switching sides and started fighting for Mexico and the Mexican American War. And I was like a huge Irish population in Mexico because of it.

[AJ Buckley]

Actually, there is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's why.

[AJ Buckley]

Holy. What year is this?

[Brandon Herrera]

Mexican American.

[Donut Operator]

It's around the Civil War. It's close to the Civil war.

[AJ Buckley]

Oh, wow.

[Donut Operator]

18.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, it was. I mean, Robert E. Lee, I think, was a colonel in the American military during that. The Mexican American War.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, it's.

[Donut Operator]

It's just after the Civil War, isn't it? It's just before. Oh, just before.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

That's my bad.

[Tyler Gray]

Like late 40s, early 50s, I think.

[Brandon Herrera]

So.

[Tyler Gray]

Something like that.

[Donut Operator]

I'm gonna find that dude's story.

[AJ Buckley]

I wonder if there's anybody named Jesus O'Neill down there or something like that. Patrick Rodriguez, Mario O'Brien, like a Mexican J Rangers? Oh, actually. Well, Canelo, is that there's it there?

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah, Literally.

[Brandon Herrera]

So as Brandon wants me to Tell you my conspiracy theory. So you know how, like, a lot of military games were actually, like, kind of secretly covertly aided by the government for, like, making the army seem cool or, like, we're gonna make arma so they know damn near how to pilot a drone out of the gate when they get to training like that.

[Eli Double Tap]

They made an entire. Dude, when I enlisted, there was an entire first the army game.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, exactly. So, like, I have a theory. I think Fortnite ICE busts in to, like, deport a bunch of Mexicans, and they just start building structures really fast.

[Donut Operator]

So you can't get to them.

[Tyler Gray]

They want to be prepared.

[Brandon Herrera]

You gotta know how to combat that.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just picturing my people.

[Brandon Herrera]

We're here. How is that physically possible? Are you harboring enemies of the States beneath the floorboards? This. Or did. Did the enemies of the state just make this house?

[Donut Operator]

If they were under the floorboard, you'd.

[Tyler Gray]

Know.

[Donut Operator]

You know, that Putin had, like, the world.

[Tyler Gray]

Or not world class, but, like, the.

[Donut Operator]

Highest category of Russian arma. Three players simulate the invasion of Ukraine.

[Tyler Gray]

I did hear about that, I think. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, I did not know that.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, he had.

[Brandon Herrera]

How'd that go?

[Donut Operator]

Not according to plan.

[Tyler Gray]

Turns out expensive.

[Brandon Herrera]

What do you mean? You want me to program tanks From World War II in the modern Warfare Games game?

[Tyler Gray]

I remember everybody was just like, it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. Oh, Russia's going into Ukraine. It's not gonna happen. We saw the headline. They're like, russia just moved up a shitload of blood reserves to the Ukrainian border of, like, blood donation, like, blood bags like that. We're like, that's. It's probably gonna happen. I think it was like, a couple days after that.

[AJ Buckley]

Did you see that? There was a headline I saw yesterday where Zelensky was saying that they've only received 78 million of the hundred.

[Donut Operator]

Or.

[AJ Buckley]

Sorry, 78 billion of the 178 billion that we said he. They don't know where they never received.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

They're casually missing 58 of it.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

They're not seeing 100 million. They don't. $100 billion.

[Tyler Gray]

Also a crazy way of saying thank you.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. I was just like, what?

[Brandon Herrera]

Bad day to be a twin tower.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was like, government accidentally gives me.

[Donut Operator]

I gotta pay here.

[AJ Buckley]

Great exit.

[Eli Double Tap]

Government can accidentally give me 50%. I'm like, you know what? Thank you.

[AJ Buckley]

That is crazy.

[Tyler Gray]

It was during the Biden admin administration. At some point, they said, like, oh, yeah, well, we accidentally gave Ukraine 5 billion more than we meant to it's.

[AJ Buckley]

Like, but you knocked you to get it back.

[Donut Operator]

Or like, dude, anyone who's dealt with the irs, it's like, you know, you're like, hey, you guys. It's like, it. The. The government waste is. It's unfathomable. It's like. It's like the military, Tyler.

[Eli Double Tap]

What would you know about government?

[Donut Operator]

That's the thing. It's like, I always tell people, I'm like, dude, look, you can say what you want, but I work for the government. Like, I know how absolutely insane it is. I've flown on planes with millions of dollars of cash that were just freaking.

[Eli Double Tap]

They hand out that.

[Donut Operator]

Going where? I have no idea. It's crazy to me. And no, it's.

[AJ Buckley]

Dude, it's.

[Donut Operator]

It's. It's.

[AJ Buckley]

It's the stuff I'm talking that we did with the.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, I said it when we were on the plane. I said. Remember I said. I was like. I was a crazy thing to say. I was like, I never flew with this much money. But remember, we were talking. You and I were talking about. But my point being is just what I saw personally, not what I've heard or heard secondhand, let alone them third hand. Just what I've seen personally in, like, Afghanistan and Iraq. It's the craziest. It's just we hand out money like it's water. It's crazy, crazy, crazy. And I mean, it's. Can't print water. It's absolutely ridiculous. And, you know, I am very happy with, you know, somebody coming in to. To, you know, reduce the. Just the absolute waste because it's taxpayer money, and that's not. Okay.

[Tyler Gray]

Somebody that's had to actually run a business and make a profit for a couple decades.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

How to do it? That'd be cool.

[Brandon Herrera]

If I have to hear one more person that can't spell the word tariff have an emotional crisis about tariffs, I'm gonna lose my mind.

[Tyler Gray]

But whatever will we do without Canada or Mexico? So somebody replied to my tweet about the tariff thing. I was just like, man, it feels like Trudeau's just doing as much damage as he can before he leaves. Somebody's like, I don't want to be too harsh with my words here, but.

[AJ Buckley]

Oh, yeah, I just.

[Tyler Gray]

I feel like if we keep going this way with American Canadian relations, we won't be there when you need us.

[Donut Operator]

And I'm just like, oh, no.

[Tyler Gray]

Not that we haven't been on the same side on a bunch of stuff.

[Donut Operator]

But, like, was it.

[AJ Buckley]

He.

[Tyler Gray]

Need is a strong word.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Was he speaking from the Canadian perspective?

[Brandon Herrera]

Yes.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, that changes things.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, Mexicans are pissed.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. With Trudeau and. And Canada's changed, like, so, so much. I used to love going back to Vancouver, working there, doing all stuff, but, like, even just, like, just to see Vancouver.

[Donut Operator]

Just for reference.

[Eli Double Tap]

Vancouver's wild. If you live there, like, cost of living is in.

[AJ Buckley]

It's one. It's the most expensive city in the world.

[Donut Operator]

It used to be so beautiful. Oh, my God.

[AJ Buckley]

People cannot get into the market. Young people cannot buy houses. They can't. The rent is in. Like, everything about it is. So the price to go when you go film there and just to go get, like, you always know because you have. You'll have your per diem, what they give you when you show up to. To film. And you'll go, oh, go. Go stock up the fridge. And you will go to, like, a regular. Like, they have a Safeway up there. You'll go to a regular Safeway, which is like a grocery store.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

Just a pack of cigarettes. Yeah. Oh, for 100 bucks Canadian, you will get maybe five items, tops. Like, and it is not good.

[Eli Double Tap]

Beer markup is like, you're paying almost triple, even.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, I remember being a kid and, like, buying.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. Books.

[Donut Operator]

I'll just give an example. You buy a book or a toy. You know, at least when I was younger, it was always like this. Everything you buy an actual. Actual price tag on it. Right. And on the price tag was cost. And then Canadian. I just remember being a kid and being like, well, I'm glad I don't live there. Like, everything's 20 more.

[Tyler Gray]

Imagine having to pay in CAD.

[AJ Buckley]

And the sad thing is, like, Canadians are awesome. They're great people. They're like. They love their sport. They love their hockey. They just. They're very patriotic people. But it's. It's been really sad just to see what, like, bad management can do in there and just how there's no way that they can get out of the position that they're in.

[Brandon Herrera]

Every time I get upset with Canada, I see immediate footage of farmers from Canada blowing manure onto government buildings. Never mind.

[AJ Buckley]

That was crazy. Like, those guys, like, the Canadians are awesome. They are awesome. And they. That. That whole thing with what they ended up doing to truckers after where they.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

They were, like, freezing their bank accounts and stuff. That was just, like, such overreach. I mean, Trudeau is on tape saying when somebody asks, like, what's one of your favorite countries? And he says, China. He Says that on an interview, like, you're like, what? How can. Why would anybody compare Canada? You know, I feel like it's the.

[Tyler Gray]

Same as the United States where like you have people in the. The rural Canadians are dope.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

People that live in the fake world. World that is a big city.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

And they think they know how the world works. It's like, homie, you live in a.

[Donut Operator]

Feels about Canada is exactly the way I feel about California. You know, I grew up in California. I was born and raised in California, you know. And you know, California in the 80s was in the 90s.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

The early 2000s. California was awesome. The California I grew up. I grew up in Bakersfield though, by the way, Bakersfield, California is basically. If Bakersfield, California switched places with Austin, Texas, the United States would make sense. More sense. Because it's true.

[Tyler Gray]

Because you mean little LA dude.

[Donut Operator]

Bakersfield. Bakersfield is the country music capital other than Nashville. So it's like Bakersfield, Buck Owens, Dwight Yocum, all those things. So it's like Bakersfield was like Texas and California. The oil industry was one of the main reasons why. But you know, I used to go to the Long's drugstore and there was a pistol counter from here to the wall. It was huge. You know, it was just a very different place. And just seeing what California's become, you know, in the last 20 years is just. It's sad. It's. Honestly.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, I mean, we. We left five years ago. Four, four and a half, five years ago. And just to see what like. And it. I like California and, and that just that whole Los Angeles. It's such great memories for me because it gave me the start of my career. I remember I have so many moments in my life that were life changing moments as a young man in that area. And then just when you go back, because even when we're filming, I flew back the last couple seasons and just to see. Because you get an Airbnb or whatever it is and you would just. There wasn't. There was so many years, like when I was living out of my car, I didn't feel, I didn't feel like unsafe there. You feel unsafe like at all times. There's like an edge that comes over.

[Donut Operator]

You where you're like, do we used to film? You know, a lot of people would don't know this, but I'll tell you, it's. It's the fact we filmed a third, which is a lot. We filmed 130something episodes of Seal Team. Debatably a third of Those were filmed in downtown la, which you wouldn't expect, but we filmed about a third of those in town, downtown la. And dude, we filmed in some bad areas. Like we filmed in an alley where they like throwing on us. Like.

[AJ Buckley]

Oh yeah, literal human.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, it was, it was crazy. I mean we, we've seen quite a lot of things, but dude, we'd film in areas that, you know, security would have to escort you, you know, to the car. It was that bad. And dude, downtown was just out of control.

[AJ Buckley]

We had, we had a guy in a tent. I remember Max and I ran a tent. He's just, just pounding his bishop good.

[Tyler Gray]

Literally.

[AJ Buckley]

He's like. We open the trailer.

[Tyler Gray]

Usually it's the other way around.

[AJ Buckley]

He's in a blue tent on the other side of the gate and he's just sitting there and I'm like, I'm like, Max, is that, is that like a fan of yours or something? He's on some drugs and he's just.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, Max is a good looking.

[AJ Buckley]

He's a good looking dude. I get it. I get it, buddy. I get it.

[Eli Double Tap]

With you on film going for the first time to la. No, different show. Going to LA for the first time and your reactions of like Hunter street and downtown la.

[Donut Operator]

It's a dump, man.

[AJ Buckley]

Oh yeah. It was never like that.

[Eli Double Tap]

No One street from what's the Rodeo.

[AJ Buckley]

Or.

[Donut Operator]

Skid and not the 80s band.

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, much better. 18 in life. Classic dog eating a rat. It was. Yeah. People.

[Tyler Gray]

Homeless guy eating the dog.

[Donut Operator]

The zombies.

[Tyler Gray]

The fentanyl zombies.

[Donut Operator]

Oh yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

But you see what happened in San Francisco. Like, have you guys been to San Francisco before?

[Donut Operator]

We have, but I'm not two months.

[AJ Buckley]

I shot a series up in San Francisco and it was terrifying. It like, it looked like, like it did, like, it just looked like an old video game that you play in these. These. You're like narc.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, dude. Oh my God. All the needles falling out of the person. Dude, you gotta get narc, Eli. You need narc as an arcade game.

[Eli Double Tap]

Background.

[Donut Operator]

You like shoot him in the freaking money and drugs are falling out of them.

[AJ Buckley]

I think there's an actual.

[Donut Operator]

Legit.

[AJ Buckley]

I think there's an actual app that they have where, where people have actually. And you can put.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, you can. Tracker or something like that.

[AJ Buckley]

It's literally like. It's glowing. It's just one big pile of like dots where people. But.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, it was. We took Cody's girlfriend to, to LA because we did like a movie premiere like I don't know, six months ago. Or some like that. And she thought we were kidding, but it's like we were in LA walking the street for maybe 10 minutes. We're just like, oh, first human.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

And she's just like, no, no, we weren't exaggerating. It's literally that bad.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, everything changed. I mean, look, it was on a decline, but dude, Covid is when everything. Yeah, hard, hard change. I mean, it changed overnight.

[Eli Double Tap]

You know, most small mom and pops shut down. It was like 70%.

[AJ Buckley]

We had a bunch of friends that lost like, like generational restaurants that were just gone with dude.

[Donut Operator]

But I mean, the homeless stuff was out of control. But again, it wasn't that, you know, suddenly the restaurant owners are on the street. It was that what they were tolerating. I'll tell you the. The craziest thing. And again, people can say whatever they want. I was there. I saw it.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

I was there when they changed. I think you had already left. I was there when they changed the law to allow the under thousand dollar. Oh, yes, I was there.

[AJ Buckley]

Oh, yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And I think it was in Albertsons. Don't quote me on that, but I think it was an Albertsons in. In what was the name of Barry. I lived in Studio City, so it was an Albertsons and Studios on the corner of Ventura and like a grocery store. Yeah, yeah, it's Safeway. Same. Yeah, normal grocery store, not super cheap, not, you know, not high end, just a normal grocery store. So they just changed law. I was there. And again, I'm not exaggerating what Autumn does say. Dude, you just see person after person come in, grab a handful of food and just straight.

[AJ Buckley]

Not even run.

[Donut Operator]

Just do not run. Not even be. I mean, chill as a cucumber. Grab a freaking. Grab a thing of food and just walk out. And I remember seeing it for the first time and being like, you know, wait, what? You know, like my brain's processing and then I figure out what it is. And then I started getting like, dude. And again, I. I wanted to, like hurt them. You know what I mean?

[AJ Buckley]

Then you'll get arrested.

[Donut Operator]

Then you'll get arrested. And it was like this weird struggle that I had where I wanted to do them physical harm. Which, by the way, I know is not the correct re. You know, action to somebody just stealing food.

[Tyler Gray]

But, like, it's fair to be angry when you live your whole life following the rules and then you see somebody brazen instantly break it with no consequences.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, I mean, honestly, if they would have grabbed it and like, did some effort running I'd be like, okay, you know, just pretend like it's not. Just pretend like it's not okay. But just to leave your face.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah, you're gonna become a vigilante riding the New York subway.

[Donut Operator]

I did and I just. It was really frustrating. And what's crazy is at the time they had like one security guard. And then over time, you know, within six months they had six, you know, because they couldn't. You couldn't as a person stop. And a guy tried to pass this law in California, which to be fair, I do understand what his thing was. He didn't want. It was a law which got a lot of shit. But I actually agree with the guy's intent and even though it was a horrible idea, but his intent was to pass a law so that bosses wouldn't force employees that weren't security people to stop theft, which made it. It was like. But he went about it in a very stupid way, which was. It made it like illegal for non security people to stop theft, which was a horrible idea. But again I, I do when stupid, you know, politicians, you know, I look at the intent, there's none of those. Yeah, I'm like, okay, I see what you're hot take. Yeah, so that one. I'm like, okay, I see the intent. You know, it's. It wasn't a ridiculous intent, but it's ridiculous in how it's gonna freakin.

[Tyler Gray]

Famously road to heaven paved with good intention.

[Donut Operator]

Exactly, exactly. And so you know, it's just like, dude, my. You know, in the past I used to. In the early 2000s, I used to.

[Tyler Gray]

Have to go to Portland.

[AJ Buckley]

Dude, Portland used to be a beautiful amazing race there.

[Donut Operator]

Oh dude.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, I not like a big deadhead.

[Eli Double Tap]

2010 was the last time it was in Portland. Yeah, it's been a long ass time.

[AJ Buckley]

Oregon is not good.

[Donut Operator]

2020. Yeah, done. Oh yeah, you can't infected with homeless.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, I mean during the Summer of Love a lot of that was like based out of Portland. Like a lot of the people that were throwing, well, they would, they would.

[AJ Buckley]

Go in and they would just find a house that somebody wasn't in and they would just take it and they would. And the people would come back like you can. And they couldn't get them out of the house. They just move in and there was nothing they could do to get them out of the house. I was like, what?

[Eli Double Tap]

Damn it. Now I need. What is that guy's name? I will say it was one of the. It was a twitch channel that popped off. I forgave the Asian dude and a squatter tried to take over his house. Bro, that was one of the most hilarious things I have ever seen. Because she wouldn't move out. And he was like, okay, fine. He just invited twitch people to come. He sets up alarms. So if you do donations or subscribe Blair's music to her room, because he's. He's like, fine, we'll all live here.

[Tyler Gray]

Because he can't legally evict her.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Oh, well, let's have fun with it.

[Eli Double Tap]

So he's calling the cops, and he's.

[Donut Operator]

Like, I just gotta walk this floor.

[Eli Double Tap]

And he's just hitting her door with the mop. The cops are up there. Like, are you. He's like, I was just. She pushed something under the door. I was just cleaning my house.

[Donut Operator]

Cops.

[Eli Double Tap]

And the cops are like, God, fair enough, dude. They would not touch me. But she's the one that would call the cops.

[AJ Buckley]

I know.

[Tyler Gray]

The cops thought it was hilarious.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. That dude made thousands of dollars because then it started bringing in.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hundreds of thousands of views and donations on that music.

[Donut Operator]

That is a dude taking lemons and making lemonade right there. It was good on you.

[Tyler Gray]

It's.

[Donut Operator]

It's. I won't. I will rent out property in California because of the. The. The. The laws are so disproportionately weighted to the.

[AJ Buckley]

It doesn't make. It doesn't make sense. We lived across in Rodano beach, right across from the Radono police department. And because of the show, the. The cops had recognized literally across the street. It was literally right. Right there was. Right there.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

And so I became good buddies with a lot of cops, and there was this law that was passed. I was like, no bail, no jail. So they were arresting the same hold the.

[Tyler Gray]

Like, you don't have to post usually means jail.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

So if you can't have Bell, you're out.

[AJ Buckley]

No, you just. You would. You. You basically go in. You didn't have to. They'd take you down a thing.

[Donut Operator]

They'd take, oh, you don't need to post bail, nor are you going to jail.

[AJ Buckley]

They would. They catch a guy getting arrested.

[Donut Operator]

It's basically.

[AJ Buckley]

They bring him down to the thing, they take his picture, let him out, and four hours later, the same cop is picking up the same dude again. Break it into another.

[Donut Operator]

So.

[AJ Buckley]

So you arrest him like, four times.

[Donut Operator]

A night if you want to see some fun videos. So I live currently. I live currently in Orange County.

[AJ Buckley]

Look it up. It's insanity.

[Donut Operator]

It's called catch and release. So if you want to look up, that's. That's catch on.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm more confused views and I'm.

[AJ Buckley]

Oh yeah, it doesn't make sense. The cops would say. We're so frustrated because we're literally picking up the same person and they're. When we're. They're taking the pictures, they're flipping off the camera.

[Tyler Gray]

It's the same thing on the southern border right now. Like.

[Donut Operator]

Like.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, hopefully not anymore, but a second ago was. You just saw it all the time. Like, I talked to a lot of those dudes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Rocco on the show talked about, like Vincent Vargas on the show was like, yeah, you, dude.

[AJ Buckley]

His book is amazing, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

He would say, he's like, you. You can't touch them. And if they cross, you can't touch them. And then it's a. It's. You get in trouble if you.

[Tyler Gray]

Because if you touch him. And then they.

[AJ Buckley]

They get.

[Tyler Gray]

They leave your custody or they go back or whatever. Federal investigation.

[Eli Double Tap]

So they let them pass. And Roger's like, yeah, we're literally just.

[AJ Buckley]

Like, he's a great dude. He's in Texas. Yeah, isn't he?

[Donut Operator]

Well, he used to be border patrol.

[Tyler Gray]

That's.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

You know, dude, when. When we were in Colombia. This is a true story. When we were in Columbia filming, which was in spring. Yeah, April. Yeah, April. It just so happened, which, like, what are the odds? We're in. We're in Columbia filming. And it just so happened. I start seeing these dudes and I'm like, like, you know, same recognized same. Like, I'm like, I'm like, these aren't normal gringos. These are federalis. Right. And I just start seeing these guys. I'm like, dude, these guys are government. You know? You know what I mean? I could just tell. So we finally approached him. Turns out that while we happen to be in Columbia, the whole cast is at this hotel. They're having this. And I mean, we're talking FBI, dea, agency, every three letter agency in all.

[Tyler Gray]

The guys that were there at Jan6.

[Donut Operator]

They're all there. They're all there. Who said that they're happy having a. What's it called? They're having a conference to basically try and figure out what to do with the border. And this is in again, this is. This is in April. So it's like there's stuff on the news, but like no one knows. You know, it hadn't really all come out yet. And I just went up to him, I was like, hey, dudes. You know, guys. Yeah. And I started talking to him like, hey, like, no shit. What's going on right now? Like, legitimate. And they're like, bro, like, this is what's. Forget all the politics and everything. This is what is happening. And basically they're like, all the. And it was, oh, sorry, let me be clear. We're in Colombia. We're not in Mexico, we're in Colombia. And what it was. Because the. Through the Colombian channel and through everything it was the cartels were bringing all this. Not just drugs, but actual terrorists through. And that's what the conference was. Was trying to figure out. And yeah, then. And there was probably also talking about the Venezuelan gangs at that time, you know. So it was. And he was just like, this is what's happening. And so I was like, okay, that's. You know, it's officially. Officially going on. That's unofficially.

[Tyler Gray]

It's weird too how much like you do not hear about it in mainstream news, but like, the amount of people that you are for sure confirmed terrorists caught on the border never makes.

[Donut Operator]

And that's what. And that's what they told me in April. So like, like I knew then from, you know, the horse's mouth. They're like, this is what is actually happening. It's not being reported. You know, here's why. Blah, blah, blah. And it was. It was really interesting.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's eye opening on how much is not.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, dude.

[AJ Buckley]

To see. You know how most like government people like or like fbr, whatever. They always downplay like it's not that bad or whatever. This dude point blank was like, it's so bad right now.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

Like, I was. I was like, oh, when somebody says.

[Donut Operator]

We weren't talking like politics, we were just talking, you know, bros, you know.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, it was good.

[Donut Operator]

I only tell you an FBI story, by the way, so I don't think I told this one last time.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, I know. I didn't even know part of this of your life.

[Donut Operator]

I happen to be.

[Eli Double Tap]

Tyler has a lot of different. So I happen to be just a regular infantry dude. Crazy.

[Donut Operator]

He got to do that with the CQB at 4. No.

[Tyler Gray]

So I have one of those regular infantry. Exactly.

[Donut Operator]

I have happened to be at the FBI academy and for. I don't know, like, I don't know. It was there a decent amount of time, like three weeks, 25.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just hanging out.

[AJ Buckley]

So this is before.

[Eli Double Tap]

This is during.

[Donut Operator]

I. I was doing some training stuff there. Not secret. Nothing secret or ninja. It was just. It's a long explanation to explain it. And so anyways, I Was there at the FBI academy and they had a graduation happening at the FBI academy. So I go to the FBI academy or I go to the. I was at the academy and they're doing. I forget why I was there, but it was at night and it's like they had their graduation and now it's literally their, like, after party for the. All these new FBI agents. And there's like, you know, 50 of them. I don't know. And dude, they're doing karaoke. And like, I just sat there and they're like getting hammered and doing FBI agent karaoke. All brand new agents. And I'm just like watching them get up and do karaoke and I'm like. Like, I'm never going to be able to take the FBI seriously again. I'm just watching them all hammered, like, slobbering all over each other.

[Eli Double Tap]

My graduation was specifically his FBI agent karaoke.

[Donut Operator]

Remember the songs? But I just sing like all these, like.

[AJ Buckley]

Jimmy.

[Donut Operator]

I just remember, like, I'm like. Like my. My image of the agency is like forever ruined by watching these just drunk agents slobbering over there.

[Tyler Gray]

It was like 10 years ago. You guys remember that video of the guy from the wedding reception? The FBI agent that did the backflip and his gun falls out?

[AJ Buckley]

Oh, yeah. It goes off.

[Tyler Gray]

And then he goes to grab it and accidentally fires.

[Eli Double Tap]

I forgot about that. Yeah, Yeah, I forgot about that one.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, he got in trouble.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, I would assume so.

[Brandon Herrera]

There was a P320. It wasn't his fault.

[Tyler Gray]

They do that on their own.

[Donut Operator]

I'll tell you another FBI story because it's really funny. I think. I don't think I told this last time, but this is a true FBI story.

[Eli Double Tap]

There's a lot of tower stories. I am. No.

[Donut Operator]

Well, this one's great. So I was. I was with a good buddy of mine, Jack Osborne, and I was just talking about. Just talking about Jackson. Great, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

They were literally on like two hours ago.

[Donut Operator]

Two hours ago.

[Eli Double Tap]

Because Jack text demo that he wanted demo to wish happy birthday to Ozzy Osbourne. And so Demo's like, oh, got it. And they stacked up pallets of water and Demo ran through it. He's like, yeah, we sent it. And then 10 minutes later, Ozzy sent a video back. Ozzy sent a video back. Like, it.

[AJ Buckley]

Whatever, dude.

[Donut Operator]

Ozzy's a maniac.

[AJ Buckley]

Like, Mars rover thing.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I will tell us, right? So let me tell you an FBI agent story about my friend Ozzy that involves. I'll tell them. I'll tell them. Both quickly.

[AJ Buckley]

So basically, no.

[Donut Operator]

Take your time. Please elaborate in detail.

[Tyler Gray]

I don't know if you've looked at the duration, the watch time of this podcast so far, but we got time.

[Donut Operator]

So Jack's like, hey, dude. And I'd been friends with Jack, actually. Jack and I were roommates. I've moved into his guest house for like, I don't know, a year and a half. And his guest house, great.

[AJ Buckley]

A great shooter too.

[Donut Operator]

Great guy. I mean, dude, Jack can tell you some stories. I mean, Jack was, you know, partying at like 14 years old on Sunset with Paris Hilton. And dude, he's got some crazy stories. He put it this way, he was in rehab at 18. Literally in rehab, but legend. So Jack's like, hey, dude, you want to. You want to come, you know, guard Ozzy, or, you know, my dad and I for the show that they were doing called the World Detour, which I don't know if you ever saw it. It was a great show on Nat Geo, I believe. Don't quote me on it. Maybe Discovery, I don't remember. And basically it was just them doing. It's just Jack and Ozzie driving around, basically doing. Learning history and kind of doing cool stuff. I don't know how else to describe it. And Ozzy, by the way, Ozzy is a huge military history fanatic, by the way. Like, Ozzy loves military history. I remember showing up one time, Ozzy opens the door and he's like.

[AJ Buckley]

That'S a good verse.

[Donut Operator]

I'm watching Vietnam and HD and we go inside and Jack and I watch freaking Vietnam and HD for like four hours with Ozzy. And like, he knew his stuff anyways, so that's amazing. I was like, sure, dude, I'll come. And. And you know, I was doing bodyguarding.

[Brandon Herrera]

I come too.

[Donut Operator]

So now I'm bodyguarding. I'm bodyguarding white. You should. You should absolutely have Jack on the show. He can tell you stories 100%. Blow your mind. Jack and Ozzy more than welcome on White Sabbath. So basically, Free King. The. I'll tell the Mars one because it's pretty crazy. So what the. The guy who's.

[Eli Double Tap]

Stop.

[AJ Buckley]

Just.

[Donut Operator]

What's it called? The. Houston. Houston. We have a problem. NASA. The guy who ran NASA at Houston, I guess, was a huge Black Sabbath fan. So somehow they got in contact.

[Brandon Herrera]

You were gonna say Nazi.

[Tyler Gray]

Operation Paperclip was that mother.

[Donut Operator]

That's more on the Coover.

[Tyler Gray]

So then you names working convention centers after them.

[Donut Operator]

So he invites Ozzy and Jack to. To Houston to the. The NASA, you know, Whatever. The Space center. I think it's called the NASA Space center down there. Basically carte blanche, dude. Do whatever you want and film it. So they do all kinds of stuff. We got a great tour. Jack and I literally talked to an astronaut for like two hours. It was awesome. It was a great. I learned a lot. Well, one of the things they had Ozzy do was drive the Mars rover. And I'm not joking. They put Ozzy Osbourne in control of the Mars rover.

[Tyler Gray]

On Mars.

[AJ Buckley]

No.

[Donut Operator]

Sort of.

[AJ Buckley]

He was.

[Donut Operator]

Oh no, no, that. It's here. Right.

[Tyler Gray]

So basically I didn't know if it was just like remotely pilot.

[Donut Operator]

You're joking right now, but you're not. It's cold. I'm blind. Believe it was called the Mars Rover. If it wasn't, then that's.

[Eli Double Tap]

If it's.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, but it's this vehicle built for Mars. It's not a. It's a drivable. It's actually more like. And we can look it up on the episode or you guys can, but it's basically the Mars truck. It was a truck designed for Mars when humans are there.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, and they basically like the Curiosity.

[Donut Operator]

No, no, no, not the Curiosity. I think they called it the Mars.

[AJ Buckley]

Drive it.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, but it's actually like an suv. Mars suv. I forget what anyway was. And they basically had built, you know, in, outside they built this, you know, four football field size area that had red dust and rocks and it looks like Mars. And obviously, you know, they built it. So they put Ozzy in there. Now the best part is I'm, I'm staying. I'm not in the vehicle. In the vehicle is like the guy who knew the vehicle the best. Ozzy and Jack, right. They're all mic'd up. We're you know, 200 yards away.

[AJ Buckley]

They said they could, it could go over anything.

[Donut Operator]

And I'm standing with like six engineer straight up nerds from NASA, right, that like built the thing and the producer and you know, a couple other people and we're listening, we can hear everything. And it's like. Yeah. So this vehicle is incapable of getting stuck. All right? We call this. And that's the thing is this whole sequence was like. It was planned. I was there, dude. This sequence was not planned. They were like, it's, it's, it's like the Unsinkable Molly Brown. This, this vehicle cannot get stuck. Etc. It's got six wheels. Each one's independent suspension. Each one has its own front and reverse. And they just, they're going on about how what an engineering marvel this vehicle is, right? And so I can just picture Aussies, like, okay, challenge accepted, right? And these engineers are like, whispering, yeah, yeah, he's going to. You know, there's nothing. It's.

[AJ Buckley]

It's.

[Donut Operator]

It's unstoppable. It's the best thing ever. And they're just whispering in the background some. They let that guy drives around a little bit, then they give the controls for Ozzy. I shit you not. For whatever fucking reason, these guys put in this area a rock as big as this table just in the middle of the thing. Now Ozzy starts driving about 100 yards away from it.

[Tyler Gray]

How fast does this thing go?

[Donut Operator]

Not so. Not slow, you know, it's like maybe 15 miles an hour, bicycle speed. Not enough for you to know where this is going. I'm watching it drive, and it just occurs to me, he's gonna head straight for that fucking rock right now. It's also pretty obvious to me that no one had ever headed straight for that rock. Right? It's there as like, hey, that's. That's an obstacle, obviously. Drive around it, right? No one's like that. That rock is there for you to drive, right? It's obviously that everyone goes around it. You would obviously go around it. Well, you tell Ozzy that thing can go over anything. He's gonna freaking go over anything. So he's driving straight at it. And it occurs to me, I'm like, oh, shit, this is not gonna work out well. The engineer is in behind me as it gets about 50 yards away. Are like, he's not. No, no. And I'm like, oh, yes, he is, dude. He hits that thing straight on, it starts going up, and you just start hearing the whispering. Oh, it'll be fine. You know, oh, this is gonna take that. No one's ever went over that before. Yeah, but it's designed for it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he freaking goes up on it. And then he gets on top of it. And then nothing, dude. The panic starts very slowly. It's like one engineer going, it'll be off in a second. It'll be off in a few seconds, right? And it just starts building. And like, over the course of a minute, you just hear these engineers go from, like, absolute confidence to absolute panic. They're like, oh, my God. No way did he like. And by the way, I'm missing a piece. I should have said in the beginning. In the beginning, it. I forget how much, but it was like a crazy amount of money, like $5 billion that they had spent on this vehicle, right?

[Tyler Gray]

It was about government.

[Donut Operator]

It was. Yeah. It was an obscene amount of money. Right? And, dude, these guys just start freaking out. He's on it for, you know, I don't know. I just have to watch the episode. He's on it for, like, two minutes and ain't moving in at all. And it's this huge boulder. It looks ridiculous. It's just, like, balanced on top of it.

[Tyler Gray]

Meanwhile, one of the Doge guys is watching this podcast, just like, mars Truck no go, right?

[Donut Operator]

And so, long story short, they finally freaking, you know, he has to give control over to the engineer. And that guy, like, adjusts the pressure, deflates the time. I mean, he. It literally was on there for, like, three minutes, and finally he got it off. But, dude, like, Ozzy stuck the Mars freaking Rover. No doubt about it. I watched it happen. It's like, it was a great episode, dude. You gotta see it. So the FBI story real quick, I.

[Eli Double Tap]

Think that was a secondary.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, well, that was all. That was all in build up. Right. All right, so the FBI story is we're at the FBI. So somehow Jack and the producers convinced them to go to the FBI. Again, random. So I'm at the FBI Academy again.

[Tyler Gray]

This is what, like, Quantico?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, Quantico. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And we found out when you're friends with certain people.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. You can go anywhere. World choicers.

[Tyler Gray]

Redacted.

[Donut Operator]

Redacted. We're at the FBI Academy, and they're doing all this different stuff that showed some history stuff, the guns, all this. And now we're at the. Which is pretty famous. Which is the FBI's quote unquote, Hogan's Alley. Right? So it's like their little tactical training portion, which is very world renowned, right? And so their. Their shooting instructor starts. Or this guy starts doing this briefing, and he's like, yeah. So, you know, this is our Hogan's Alley. Basically, they were showing, like, the FBI's training process, right? And they start saying, like, okay, so this is our Hogan's Alley. It's very famous. And this is, like, the hardest part of the shooting for the FBI, which is true. Or at least I'm told. And then he's like, you know, and this is our lead shooting instructor. Now here's a huge mistake that he made. He's like, this is our leading shooting instructor. He is the best shooter at the FBI. Like, he's the lead shooting instructor. Nobody could beat him. He's just amazing.

[Brandon Herrera]

And I'm like, and Ozzy Osbourne beat him.

[AJ Buckley]

No.

[Donut Operator]

So then they Go. So then he goes. So then he goes, you're not far off. So then they go, you know, who here. Now we're gonna do a little bit of training. Who here wants to volunteer? Well, it's. Jack and Ozzy are the only two people on the show. So Ozzy's like Jack. So I want to shoot the big gun. It was pretty obvious to me that no one on the show. Show briefed the FBI that Jack is a great shooter.

[AJ Buckley]

Oh, he's a really good shooter.

[Donut Operator]

I've shot with Jack a million times. In fact, Jack and I, that's how we met. We met shooting on. On the range. So Jack is a really legit shooter. He's also really good at jiu jitsu. Right? So.

[Eli Double Tap]

And to give reference when you're a decent shot, how many rounds have you probably shot in your.

[Donut Operator]

Me? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I literally used to shoot a thousand rounds a day. That's no joke. When it was free.

[Eli Double Tap]

When it was free. That is the big indicator. A certain time period of his life.

[Donut Operator]

Free for me. I used to shoot a thousand rounds a day. Yeah, that's true. And to be fair, I'd rather spend.

[Tyler Gray]

The money as a taxpayer making sure you can train with free ammo than $5 billion on a truck that you stole.

[Donut Operator]

Ozzy Osborne crashes into a rock.

[Tyler Gray]

Don't get me wrong. I love Crazy Train, but I don't.

[Donut Operator]

Want him driving the marsh. If they were smart over the episode, they should have played Crazy Train over the freaking thing. They could have got the license going. So basically obvious. It was obvious to me that no one told the FBI that Jack is, like, a really good shooter. So, you know, Jack's like, oh, you know, I'll do it. And I mean, dude, if you could have seen the. It's on camera. But the FBI, the. The agent that was like the shooting instructors, dude, he was just so, so confident. You know what I mean? Like, oh, this Hollywood, you know, music royalty. Rich kid. I'm gonna smoke this guy. He's like. So they get Sims Pistols, Sims, Glocks. Right? And they're doing four again. We. I got to watch the episode. I don't remember exactly, but I'm sitting there. Oh, here's a critical part for the.

[Tyler Gray]

Sake of the audience. Simunition, like synthesis.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah, sorry. So it's. It's a. I believe they were using Glock 19s, if I remember correctly. Using. It was either Sims or FTX for soft Force. I don't remember. But it's basically shooting A paint. A plastic paint bullet, for lack of a term. So the gun.

[Tyler Gray]

And they fucking hurt more than a D ball.

[Donut Operator]

They do hurt, but they function. It's a real gun, just has a sims barrel. And obviously Sims bullets, right? And which have a. Generally a. Well, it's a unique casing, but it's a plastic bullet with paint in the plastic and. Or a variation, depending on the brand. So they get the gun, and I. I'm with the lead producer, and I just, like, see this, and I just saw. I based everything. First of all, I knew how good Jack was, but I saw the FBI dude, his overconfident, and I just went to the producer and I go, mark my words, Jack's gonna beat this guy. And they set up four drills, and I don't even remember what they are. They do the first one dude out of four drills, again, you know, clock the show for accuracy. From what I remember of the four drills, Jack won, I believe three out of the four. And the one, if I'm not mistaken, that the FBI agent won. He cheated.

[AJ Buckley]

Did he? So mad.

[Tyler Gray]

How'd he cheat?

[Donut Operator]

He shot. I'm trying to remember, but he did something that wasn't in the rules. I don't remember what it was, but it was like. I don't remember what it was, but I just remember. I remember watching it and being like that. That wasn't in the rules. Right. But this again, the one he won after he lost, then he started getting panicking and worried, and then he started cheating. But the other part is. The other best part is one of the four drills. I think on one of the ones he lost. Lost. The FBI agent shot the cameraman. Yeah, with sims. With the sims.

[Tyler Gray]

Pulled a regular.

[Donut Operator]

Maybe it was like.

[AJ Buckley]

Maybe he was a little bit.

[Donut Operator]

Maybe it was. Maybe it was a little bit. Maybe he was a little bit rusty.

[Tyler Gray]

Dear God.

[Eli Double Tap]

How did he shoot the cameraman?

[Donut Operator]

Miss. Jack went wide and shot the cameraman.

[Tyler Gray]

But, yeah, so super easy when you have a gun.

[Donut Operator]

Jack crushed him in the drills. And again, I don't even remember what. Exactly what they are, but Jack crushed him. And I was just like. I was like, dude, this guy had no idea what he was getting into. Dude, Jack trains a lot, so it was. It was pretty funny. But that was my. I mean, look, manic comes down to. It's like, you know, you're talking law enforcement, federal law enforcement, you know, anywhere in my experience, it's like, dude, you. You got to be humble. And just because you got three letters behind your name or just because you were at a certain unit or, or agency or whatever, dude, it doesn't make you better than anyone else. You know what I mean? Every case, every person, and every situation is unique and individual. And dude, there are good people in, you know, the higher you get to in the more prestigious units or three letter places, the less bad people there are. But there's still bad people. There's good people and bad people at every unit, every agency, you know, whatever. And just because you're in a place that maybe has an elite name or title or image, it doesn't make you better than everyone else. And anyone can beat you. And there's someone always better.

[Tyler Gray]

The vast majority of the friends or the people that I've met that have been part of those, like, tier one units and stuff like that, there are some exceptions, don't get me wrong, but like, those are usually the most laid back, chill guys. They don't have a bunch of shit to prove.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, well, it's.

[Tyler Gray]

You'd never know.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I know, you know, one of my. One of my best friends. I mean, dude, he is the baddest dude in the world. He's done everything. And that's a.

[AJ Buckley]

You would.

[Donut Operator]

If he was here.

[Tyler Gray]

That says strong like whiskey.

[Donut Operator]

No, but if he was here, you guys, you guys would have no idea. He's just the most chill, non. You know, it's. It's the, the. The people that you think are, you know, the best among us are the people that you never expect.

[Eli Double Tap]

Warriors, heart owner. Like, perfect.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, Tom's a machine.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, Tom is one of the most unassuming humans you will ever, ever meet.

[Donut Operator]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then you talk to him and you're like, oh, yeah, I had that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Moment last time we got done filming one podcast. You're like, yeah, we're to go to the pre range day party for like 30 minutes and we got to come back and film a podcast with Terry. And I was like, okay, dope, who's Terry? And he's like, oh, it's that guy right over there that was like watching the whole previous podcast. And I was like, okay, dope, nice.

[Donut Operator]

To meet you, Terry.

[Brandon Herrera]

Blah, blah, come. Who the is Terry? And he's like, oh, he's the guy that saved Captain Phillips.

[Tyler Gray]

So chill. Like, we hung out with him for the entire day, didn't know a damn thing. Like, obviously you could tell, like from the look of the guy, it's like, okay, he's like, been there and done some, but like, like, he'd never be.

[Donut Operator]

The one to tell you, no, Tom. Tom is that way. I mean, I was in, you know, in. We were in the same.

[Eli Double Tap]

Military.

[Donut Operator]

Well, yeah, when you break it down, we were in, you know, a smaller unit together is what I'm trying to say.

[Tyler Gray]

We high fived each other in the hallway.

[Donut Operator]

Well, we were, you know, a lot of guys, you know, you. You don't see because you're on opposite, you know, places, and you just never see him. But Tom, I, you know, I was with. And he was much closer than other people were, so I saw firsthand. I mean, he's just. He's the baddest dude out there. And again, you would never expect it in a conversation with him, but he's.

[AJ Buckley]

He's.

[Donut Operator]

He's a machine. I did. To be honest, though, if I'm being perfectly honest, while I was there, I thought Tom was like. Like, this guy's way too ch.

[Tyler Gray]

Chill.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, dude, Tom is.

[Donut Operator]

You know what I mean? Yeah. I was like, honestly, I remember back then thinking, man, why is this? And I. Dude, I was young. I was, you know, young. But I just remember, like, how is this guy so stoic? You know? I remember thinking that back then, and. And then when I was at Warrior's Heart and I was actually talking to Tom and I kind of talked about then, I was like, dude, I didn't know because I. I didn't. I'm like, I didn't know that you got sober, like, I think in the early 2000s, if I'm not mistaken. So I'm like, I didn't know that about you. And that would have to me, that kind of solved that stoicism mystery of that time. Like, he had already gone through so much personal development, so much personal growth. He was already on, like, another zen level. Yeah, I haven't even. Not only was I not there, I hadn't even liked. Like, I hadn't even been an yet before.

[Tyler Gray]

You know what I mean?

[Donut Operator]

Like, I still had to become an asshole and then achieve, you know, some level of. Of personal growth. He. He would already been through the whole thing. So. Yeah, he's. He's a great dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's a super cool dude. With you, like, AJ with your side, what was one of the stories, like, probably you've heard Tyler or another person tell where you're like, jesus, what the.

[AJ Buckley]

Man? There's. I mean, there's was. There was.

[Donut Operator]

Can I say this real quick, though? Okay. You gotta understand, he tells me stories. Like, it's not me saying stories that I'm like, that he's like, oh, that's crazy. Combat story. I hear his Hollywood stories, bro, and I'm like, that's the craziest I've ever heard. My stories are stupid compared to his stories.

[Tyler Gray]

Tell you what I. Fucking Hollywood stories, bro. How many kids in that basement?

[AJ Buckley]

That.

[Tyler Gray]

No way. How much for hot dogs?

[Donut Operator]

Oh, burn. No.

[Tyler Gray]

This one time, Tom Cruise, he bought a $20,000 coat rack from Wayfair and.

[AJ Buckley]

Got a coat rack.

[Tyler Gray]

He was so pissed. Party crazy, bro.

[Donut Operator]

He basically, like, lived Entourage. Oh, no, Wrong.

[AJ Buckley]

No. Is a crazy. It was a crazy dude.

[Donut Operator]

House in the hills, you know, eight chicks in the fr. Like, Like a single man's dream. Like, dude, he has the craziest stories you've ever heard. Ever heard. And that's why, like, I. He didn't geek out to my stories. I geeked out to his stories. I'm like, that's so cool.

[AJ Buckley]

I remember when I. I remember when I met my wife.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, dude.

[AJ Buckley]

I said, please tell this story.

[Donut Operator]

It's the best story.

[AJ Buckley]

I was like. I was listening because I, like, knew she was going to be the one. I was like, listen, probably you probably gotta hear a lot of things, think people are coming up and say stuff. And I say go, yeah, like, you know, various different stories happened. And I go, I just want you to know all of them are true. She was like, everything. And then.

[Donut Operator]

Are you gonna tell that story?

[AJ Buckley]

Well, yeah, then she goes. She goes, there was this one girl. There's a. Somebody was saying there was like, yeah, one time, AJ came out at a party with just a hat on his. His. His hammer and was walking around and. And she looks at me. That's. That's true, babe. I did that. She's like, well, it sounds like my husband.

[Donut Operator]

Would you tell at least a version of your meeting. Meeting your wife story?

[AJ Buckley]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's easy.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, dude, this. This, this story defines the hammer story, so I figured this story defines age.

[AJ Buckley]

So I just wanted to. Well, the hat on the hammer. I just wanted to see if I could carry a Stetson and walk into a room and I accomplished the mission.

[Brandon Herrera]

Connor's face right now.

[Donut Operator]

Connor's like, what he's not saying is it was a small Stetson.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, it was. Yeah. One of those ones they put on monkeys.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, it's that Turk Ferguson hat.

[Donut Operator]

Hey.

[AJ Buckley]

But no, I, I. When I was in Vegas, I hadn't really slept the night before, and I was going to my buddy. What's that? It's gambling.

[Eli Double Tap]

We just went to bed last week at like, six in the morning.

[AJ Buckley]

From gambling. And so I went right to the. I was wearing a suit from the night before because we had some other dinner thing that we went to. It wasn't really that I'd wear suits a lot, but I just had been wearing it, and I was like, it. We're going over to this. It was at Wet. That Wet Club at Wet Republic Republic.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

So I was like, it. I was with my buddy. I'm like, let's.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't know.

[AJ Buckley]

Let's just. Let's just go to the actual. The pool. I'm like, let's not go back to the room. It was at another hotel. I'm like, I'll just buy shorts there. So we stopped by, like, store, grab some short stuff, show up to the thing. The party's going. And as I walk in, I see this smoke show in the hot tub in a yellow bikini. And I'm like, oh, my God, that girl is so hot. And I am in that zone of, like, zero.

[Donut Operator]

You're a machine at the. You're like.

[AJ Buckley]

My eyes are bloodshot, but I just saw her, and I was, like, talking to her. So the waitress was going by. I grabbed, like, two Coronas. I jumped in the hot tub fully dressed in my suit, like, shoes, everything. Got in beside her. And she turns around, she's like, what the. She's like, why are you wearing a suit in the hot tub? Like, why are you wearing a bikini? And I handed. I handed her a beer, and I ended up marrying her. Then we were together pretty much ever since. That was my entrance. And truthfully, if I had not done that, I don't think I'd had the balls to. To go up or catch her attention. She was like, okay, all right. And then we from. That was. So that's how I met my wife. I haven't told my kids that. So I've told them a very different story, but one day they'll. They'll hear that. But how old are you kids? I got twin boys that are six. Turn seven next month.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah, that's a little young for that.

[AJ Buckley]

My daughter's. My daughter's 11. So. Yes, they get the Disney version right now.

[Tyler Gray]

The Disney version versus the original German fairy tale.

[Donut Operator]

Nice. I see what you do there.

[AJ Buckley]

I do have a funny story with Tyler. When. So when. When you go do the show. When it. When it.

[Donut Operator]

After.

[AJ Buckley]

Gets picked up.

[Donut Operator]

After.

[AJ Buckley]

So you shoot a pilot, you don't know if it's gonna get picked up. So you go away from.

[Donut Operator]

Very rarely do pilots get.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, it's super Rare. And we knew that we had had like a good shot, but you didn't know there was all sorts of things. And it was like, it was, it was all this thing like, does the audience want to. There was three other shows, military shows that were coming out that year. So we finally get picked up, we head to Radio City Music hall where they do the announcement. Back then it was called the Upfronts. And all of the press shot there, like all the press from around. And the studio has a day where they introduce the cast to the world, right?

[Donut Operator]

And this is huge announcement.

[AJ Buckley]

This is stuff you dream about as an actor. Like when I was on CSI New York, I was number eight on the call sheet. So I never got to go on the Trips. It was Macy 1, 2, 3 and 4 that would go. Or it'd be 1 and 2. So this is my very first, you know, 25 years in the industry at the time, or 22 years in the industry. I was part of this and I was like, oh, this is like. And I remember even like reading, I got emotional. Like, this is like, wow, this is finally happening. Get to Radio Music Studio. And I remember Less Moonves, who was the president of CBS at the time, walked by, he's like, aj, good to have you back. I was like, dude, you remember my name. I'm like, holy shit. This moment is like, couldn't get better. So they have us there an hour early for a tech rehearsal just to walk through. So the cameras catch us all that tell us how it's going to go because it's live and all the people are there. So like, this is great. And my publicist with me. Oh, high five. And. And like Dave Boreanis goes out and Dave Boreanas, blah, blah, blah. And turn around.

[Tyler Gray]

The guy from Bob Bones.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, hugely. Our show. So, so. And they said when you walk out, you hit this mark. The audience impressed. It's like the photo line take, you know, there's a thousand pictures, all the camera crew, you sort of wave to them. And then there's the audience of all the, the press. And you turn around and there's like a 15 foot screen with like action shots of you from the show.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it's cool. 15 by freaking 100ft.

[AJ Buckley]

So radio City Music Hall, Beatles have played there, Led Zeppelin and everybody. So I walk out and this is rehearsal and I do the thing and they're saying there's gonna be pictures here. Now turn, look at yourself up there. And I look up, I'm like, one second, I'm like, ma'am just so. That's. That's. That's not me. That's. That's Tyler Gray. And they're like, they're like, who? I'm like, same. There's a two minute action reel. Not one of them is me. It's all him. And I'm like, I'm like, none of those are me. And it says A.J. buckley.

[Donut Operator]

A.J.

[AJ Buckley]

Buckley. It's all.

[Tyler Gray]

That's genuinely very funny. He's the other beardy head guy.

[Eli Double Tap]

The action reels, nothing. But you know your name.

[Donut Operator]

You're like.

[AJ Buckley]

And then.

[Donut Operator]

So no, here's the best part.

[AJ Buckley]

So. So my pup is like, we have to fix this. They're like, okay, we'll try and do it. They come back, we don't have enough time. We're just going to be able to fix it. I'm like, so I'm going to go out on my biggest mob experience. Tyler Gray, it says over. And they're like, sorry, it's nothing. So literally introduce the world. They're like, there's this video of literally I walking A.J. buckley. And it's like, that was it. That was like, I called you.

[Donut Operator]

I was like, what?

[AJ Buckley]

He's like, what?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, great.

[AJ Buckley]

There's been many times where we've.

[Donut Operator]

People have asked about, yeah, yeah, we're twin bro. Twin brothers. We are actually born in the same year. But they also say, to be perfectly honest with you, dude, I honestly, I told them I literally didn't know. I. I just, I thought. I thought this is a true story. No joke. I thought Donut's real name was Brandon Herrera.

[Eli Double Tap]

Did not know.

[Donut Operator]

I had no idea it was two people. I had no idea. I just, you know, I don't.

[Brandon Herrera]

I mean, they were literally wearing the same shirt today.

[Donut Operator]

I like social media. Like, I just didn't know. I. I never, I don't usually. I'm very bad at YouTube, all that stuff. I. I just didn't know. And then when you told me, I was like, oh, that makes so much sense. Two different guys.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, we get so much.

[Donut Operator]

Seen you guys in the same place.

[Tyler Gray]

At the same time, like on a podcast.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, I don't even met him. I had like, seen you once in passing. I seen. Literally met him once in passing. And I mean, it just wasn't a long enough conversation where I really, like.

[Tyler Gray]

You know, I never, I never saw it, frankly. But like, we get it so much in public. Like, just like, oh, are you brothers? Or like, oh, like that sort of thing. Like, people literally shot show.

[Eli Double Tap]

We've told it before, but it was a guy walking past Brandon, Brandon, Cody. Guy walks and says hey to Cody. Like, hey, I appreciate you.

[Tyler Gray]

Appreciate all you do in Texas and blah, blah. And I like, because he said like, he shouted like, Brandon, Brandon. And walks past me and I'm just like, I just hang back, my face is hilarious.

[Eli Double Tap]

Gets his selfie, turns, looks at Brandon.

[Tyler Gray]

Be like, he's like, oh, I mean, that's great.

[Donut Operator]

That's awesome. Pretty good. That's funny.

[Tyler Gray]

And like, Cody gives me the challenge coin. He's like, I believe he meant to give this to you.

[Donut Operator]

Wow. Yeah, that's. God, he must have felt like a. Pretty much just like me. That is hilarious.

[Tyler Gray]

It's funny to me, like, we just fucking leaned into it, man. Man. It's like, what else can you do?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, we. I kind of same with him and I. We didn't really see it. And then it happened quite a few times where people would like, you know, call me AJ or vice versa. And then like he said, we just started going with it and, you know, introducing ourselves as twin brothers.

[Tyler Gray]

Cody's gone a step farther. He just has started to accept it. Like when people. Yeah. Oh, hey, Brandon. He's like, yes, I am. And we'll have a full conversation. Answering, Answering questions for me.

[Donut Operator]

Geez, you guys, you guys are pretty. I mean, but you do different things. But I guess you're. You're together sometimes on similar.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude. We've had. My favorite is still somebody at shop show him thinking he was Brandon.

[Brandon Herrera]

Somebody thought I was Brandon.

[Donut Operator]

Which is a very.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. This is the first time we were.

[Donut Operator]

All like this slightly different. He looks very Herrera. Ish. Ish.

[Tyler Gray]

Let me tell you, the far more Aryan tattooed guy.

[Donut Operator]

Thank you.

[Eli Double Tap]

Thank you. My son loves you. I love what you do for Texas. And at that moment we're like, she thinks he's Brandon.

[Tyler Gray]

Us three are having this conversation on the sidebar.

[Donut Operator]

Like, I see. Yeah, she does.

[Tyler Gray]

Okay.

[Donut Operator]

I have to ask. I have to ask just because I don't know and I don't. And I don't. I'm not. I'm literally not saying this jokingly. What do you do for Texas?

[Tyler Gray]

So I ran for Congress.

[Donut Operator]

Oh yeah. Okay.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah. San Antonio to El Paso. That district.

[Donut Operator]

Awesome.

[Tyler Gray]

So just big in like the two way politics and just like the conservative politics in general.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome.

[AJ Buckley]

Was it your first run?

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah, yeah. Never. Never gotten into politics ever before. I ran against the incumbent here in.

[Donut Operator]

Well, I mean, that's a rough one.

[Eli Double Tap]

But he put it In a runoff.

[Tyler Gray]

It was a. It's a district where it's like. It's Republican district. Like a Republican's going to win in this district. But I primaried him. We passed the primary, so we. In Texas, it's a runoff state. So if you get below 50%, you're put into a special election with the people that came in first and second. So I forced him into a runoff election where he spent. He outspent me 10 to 1 to try to keep his job.

[Eli Double Tap]

And how much?

[Tyler Gray]

We still were within 1%.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, about how much money was spent against you?

[Donut Operator]

I don't know.

[Tyler Gray]

12 million? Roughly.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

Slander me in the town I live.

[Donut Operator]

In, you're like, okay, how about this next year, you give me eight and we'll call it a deal.

[Tyler Gray]

I just won't run a crime. Can't do that. Politicians would never commit crimes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Some of the funniest political ads you've ever seen in your life are against him. We have.

[Donut Operator]

It was so good.

[Brandon Herrera]

Cody has a mailer that's got sent out to everybody in the district of a cartoon with Brandon's real face on it of a dude wearing an enormous cowboy hat. Brandon Herrera's all hat, no cattle. That's the whole. It was so funny.

[Donut Operator]

So bad.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, and it was. Some of them were so funny. Like, there was one where it's like, Brandon Herrera doesn't understand this Texas cuz he's not blah, blah, like, bunch of like, crazy shit. But it ended the ad with some of the clips from my YouTube, like, years ago where I was doing a skit and it's me wearing, like, the coke dealer shades. Like, whoa. Like, my face full of white powder. They literally included that at the end of the ad.

[Donut Operator]

I'm like, this is actually so good.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, it's good.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Politics.

[AJ Buckley]

That's the sign in there.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

Literally, I bought that's. Let's go Bruin.

[Brandon Herrera]

And now he's currently in consideration to be the new head of the atf.

[AJ Buckley]

Are you serious?

[Tyler Gray]

So the story about that RFK had a website that he. Right after Trump won was Make America Healthy Again. But it was nominees for the people where people could nominate their own. Like, basically for people they thought would be good for certain cabinet positions. I had nothing to do with this, but somebody threw my name in for director of the atf Bureau of Alcohol.

[Donut Operator]

Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

[Tyler Gray]

It got more votes than any other single nominee on the entire website.

[AJ Buckley]

Wow.

[Donut Operator]

Really?

[Tyler Gray]

And it became a legitimate conversation for a minute.

[AJ Buckley]

Wow.

[Donut Operator]

That would be for a minute, though.

[Tyler Gray]

The thing I said at shot show. I had to come up with a canned line. It's going to be a really funny story. What?

[Donut Operator]

I can tell it.

[AJ Buckley]

Okay.

[Donut Operator]

I like it. Okay, that's fair. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's a weird thing.

[Tyler Gray]

I'm sure you guys. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Then I got bored and made Tony.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, my God. Made a joke. I just realized that I made a joke on the interwebs about this and I just didn't realize it was you. Somebody had. I did. I didn't even put it together it was you, but it was like. I realized now it was like Brandon Herrera for. Brandon Herrera for ATF director. And then I had. This is probably when I hadn't. I was confused on. And then I looked it up. I love that guy's cop videos. I'm really YouTube. I never watch YouTube, so I'm just so bad at like. But so anyways, then I went to your page and I'm like, oh, that's obviously a joke. This guy's, you know, huge 2A guy. So then I went back and I posted. Yeah, it would be awesome. On his first day that he makes himself unemployed.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Basically saying, abolish the atf.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

You know, I thought it's a big joke.

[Brandon Herrera]

I thought I was joking, but I was just stating the obvious.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly. Yeah. On his first day, he makes himself unemployed. Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

That's. That's the end goal.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. That's funny. I mean, you know, it's like.

[Tyler Gray]

I mean, you'd never have a director of the FAA who fucking hates airplanes.

[Donut Operator]

No, I did.

[AJ Buckley]

Who's the interim guy?

[Tyler Gray]

So Stephen Dettelbach just resigned. Yeah, they don't have. So the ATF is a weird case where, like, at the last, like, two decades, there I think has been more time where there wasn't an actual confirmed director than the times that there was. So, like, it's been a lot of acting directors, but not a lot of actual conflict. Like Senate confirmed directors.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, do the atf. I. You know, I've had an interesting experience with the atf. Like, you know, I've been interviewed them by them twice on. Actually three times, but on just, like, random stuff with. It's just crazy what, you know, someone says something and the ATF's like, hey, you know, like, what's the deal with this? And you're like, I don't even know what you're talking about. But what's interesting to me about the ATF is like, I've. Each time I've had to talk to them in my experience with them, as long as you're like, just, you know, it's like dealing with cops, you know, you're like, hey, dude, this is what it is. Like, they've been really cool every time I've had to deal with them. But that's also because, you know, I'm not doing anything wrong. And I just, you know, tell them, you know, I'm able to be very honest.

[Tyler Gray]

But in my experience, and I think it's probably what you're, what you're getting at. It's like it, it matters more where they're from because, like, an ATF field agent from Hawaii or New Jersey is going to behave way different than one from Tennessee or Texas. Because, like, all of my field agents, anybody I've ever had, like, do my interviews or whatever, they've always been rad as fuck. I've been lucky.

[Donut Operator]

I've been the same. I've had a good experience when I've dealt with them. In my experience, the atf, it just comes down to anything with the government, as long as you're paying, you know, your vig to the government, you can do what you want. As soon as you freaking try and, like, go around them, that's when they push you.

[Tyler Gray]

Punishable by fine means, legal, for a fee.

[Donut Operator]

There you go. And, you know, my dealings with atf, they've been cool with me and I've had really cool agents. And it's just like. But again, it's, it's scary because you know that if you get the wrong experience, yeah. They can put the hammer down on you for things that really are, you know what I mean, to justify their.

[Tyler Gray]

Budget or whatever the fuck.

[Donut Operator]

It's a scary situation to deal with them even if you're not doing anything wrong because you know the power they have. And it's that, that is where I think as a government, if you're not doing anything wrong, you as a person shouldn't have that fear. That's my opinion. You know what I mean? If I'm not doing anything wrong, I shouldn't have the fear. That. And I don't care who it is, Federal law enforcement, law enforcement. If I'm not doing anything wrong, I shouldn't have any fear. And the fact that we do in our current society, because of the, the amount of power they have and what they can do, I think that needs to change, in my opinion.

[Tyler Gray]

And I hate that because of politics, you get the Janet Reno's, the Bill Clinton administration, like that sort of thing where, like, even with Wake it's like, he could make the argument. It's like, yeah, we probably should have talked to this guy a while ago. But he even said it, like, in the VHS tapes, like the. The David Koresh.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, he's like, I go.

[Tyler Gray]

I go jogging every morning. You could have. Like, I have a good relationship with the sheriff. Yeah, you could have talked to me. Why did this become a siege where you have to bake 20 kids alive?

[Donut Operator]

Like, dude, absurd. I. I mean, I've watched quite a lot on. On. On Witch Waco. I mean, you know or do you know that they had an undercover agent?

[Tyler Gray]

I've heard that.

[Donut Operator]

No, it's. I mean, it's a fact. Yeah, that's a fact. Like. And.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, I did an. Under. An undercover or a CI.

[Donut Operator]

No, they had an undercover agent in the church. So, dude, I mean, and into. From the things I've read, I. I wasn't there. I actually had a friend that was an ATF agent at Waco. And, dude, he told me some banana stuff about just a bunch of things about how crazy that situation was.

[Tyler Gray]

I can only imagine a dude.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, just stuff that he told me. I was like, that is unbelievable. But the. The. The point being is, you know, in that agent's defense, from what I read and watched, you know, he himself was like, dude, what are we doing? You know what I mean?

[Tyler Gray]

He's like, people don't know how crazy it was. It is like people are shooting machine guns from a helicopter into a church.

[Donut Operator]

Like, it is. The whole situation is bananas. And the more you learn about it, the more bananas it. It is.

[AJ Buckley]

The first time I learned about the atf, I did a show called Narcos, and he just dropped out. I didn't even know you were season one of Narcos.

[Donut Operator]

He played Pablo.

[AJ Buckley]

So did I first got the script and we started. Was cast. That was the story of how the ATF was formed. Their interrogation of their investigation of Pablo. And then the guy, one of the guys that. That Boyd Holbrooke played. That was like their first big mission where they're flying over and getting the.

[Tyler Gray]

Like, reconnaissance sort of stuff.

[AJ Buckley]

But going over there and meeting some of the original players in Colombia, because we filmed in. We filmed all over, but we're in Medine. The other one, Cali, Bogota, which I don't know if you guys have ever been to Bogota before. It is. I can't sleep there. It's like the altitude every time I.

[Donut Operator]

Lay down higher in Denver.

[AJ Buckley]

Awesome, awesome place. But the guy.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, true. Doesn't involve a Hat. No, there was no hat this time.

[AJ Buckley]

No, that's worse. But yeah, it was crazy how. Like, what, what that whole. The whole time of that agency and what they sort of went through and what they were up against with. With Pablo and the trade.

[Donut Operator]

Are you talking about ATF or DEA, the athlete?

[AJ Buckley]

ATF.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, okay.

[Tyler Gray]

Because I would have thought DEA. I didn't know ATF was involved.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, ATF was involved because this would.

[Tyler Gray]

Have been what, mid-80s?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, late 80s, by the time the.

[Brandon Herrera]

ATF had to fight the hippos.

[Tyler Gray]

Ah, fair.

[AJ Buckley]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

This is like va. Yeah, probably all. All branches.

[AJ Buckley]

I think it was like, from what. What I was. And I could be in a bit on this, but from what I was. This is like one of the first big missions of. Of that entire team. But to see the people on the ground and what happened there and like, that just the technology from where they were then to what everybody has now, like with those planes that would go.

[Eli Double Tap]

Over and dude, surveillance as a whole took off during that time. That was when we learned they were.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah, they were flying over with these planes and just sort of picking up.

[Tyler Gray]

And listening to people based on the sound of their voice.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

Which is crazy.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, I'll tell you. I'll tell you a Columbia Pablo story. Story. So when I was in.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, first of all, are you guys. Man.

[Donut Operator]

Well, no, I. So when I went to. Well, first of all, when we filmed in Colombia for SEAL Team, we filmed in one of. Now, granted, when I say one of Pablo Escobar's, like, houses, dude, he probably had 200 houses, you know? Yeah, I was a billionaire.

[Tyler Gray]

See, they turned a plane into an Airbnb.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a crazy. Yeah, but we stayed. We. We filmed in one of them. But anyways, when I was in. When I was in Medine, we just. My buddy and I at the time were like, dude, let's like, let's go check out some Pablo Escobar. So we went to his grave site. We went to, like, where. The neighborhood where they, like, he dealt drugs, which is not a place to go today, let me tell you. That was a bad idea. Wild. Yeah, it was really dangerous. And then, dude, we went all over the place.

[Tyler Gray]

Let me go to the place where somebody who dealt drugs could get so powerful he became his own good.

[Donut Operator]

It was really dangerous, Brad.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't think we fit.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it. It was really dangerous. But anyways, we ended up going to. We like, paid this guy, like a bunch of money and was just like, you know, there was no Ubers taxi app. We're basically like, take us where Pablo was killed. That was like, what we said. And he was like, okay, so we go to this place. And then we were like, we got let out.

[Tyler Gray]

Spoiler alert, I'm on season two.

[Donut Operator]

And he was wrong. And then we're literally with broken Spanish. We're like, where did Pablo get killed? And, dude, we probably asked 10 people. And they're like, you know, finally we get to the spot, right? And I look up and this is the house. Now, first of all, the house that he was killed on no longer exists. And it's. It's been. I don't know if the whole house was torn down. I don't remember. But the exact spot is different, right? And so I looked up images and I was, you know, matching in and everything. And we figured out we're standing across from where he was killed. And I'm there now, I was a sniper for years, right? And I'm there, and I'm, like, looking at this house, and I'm looking at the image back in 90, whatever it was three, whatever, or two. And I'm like. I'm, like, looking at it. I'm looking at it, and then I'm reading the account of, like, how he died, and I'm looking at the location, and then I look around and I'm like, this doesn't fit. Like, this just doesn't fit. There's no way he was killed, by the way, the account says. Because I'm standing here looking at it. I'm looking at the trailer.

[Tyler Gray]

I have also been to Dealey Plaza.

[Donut Operator]

So. So basically I'm there and I'm like. I'm, like, looking around. I'm like, this. There's no way the official account. And so anyways, I called somebody that would be in the know, and they were like. They were like, yeah, like, what do you notice? And I'm like, well, there's. There's no way for a person to shoot from. To do what he said. And they're like, so what's the only option? And I'm like. And I said something. And he goes, you don't need to ask any more questions. And I was like, okay, so I'll just say without explaining it. If you go there, when you read the official account, you'll. You'll put together the. There's only.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, we're gonna totally disappear.

[Donut Operator]

I'm not gonna explain it. I'm just saying you'll. You'll figure out what must have happened if you go There because the, the train just. The terrain doesn't support the official account.

[Tyler Gray]

I said, I've also been to Dealey Plaza.

[Donut Operator]

Well, that's going to be coming out soon. Soon. You know, I'm excited for that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Missed a golden opportunity when you were on the phone. Next question. Did JFK's head really just do that?

[Donut Operator]

So first of all. So first of all or not first, but second of all, like, dude, I read this thing recently about jfk and I'm like, there's no way that's true. And I look it up and it is true. It's like, I didn't know his brain was missing from the National Archives.

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah, that was weird.

[Donut Operator]

I was like, what?

[Eli Double Tap]

What?

[Tyler Gray]

Yeah, dude, that was like a legit.

[Donut Operator]

His brain was stolen from the National Archives. Look it up.

[Tyler Gray]

Some guy who signed his fucking guest name as CIA.

[Donut Operator]

He's like, john Smith, agent. Oh, John. But dude, look it up. His brain was basically went missing. Missing from the National Lincoln, Lyndon Baines Smithson. But you know what I'm saying, Like, when. When my point that I'm making is, you know, the conspiracy of jfk. I mean, you hear this from years, and yet I never heard about the missing brain. I'm like, dude, that's a big piece of the puzzle that supports the fact that something happened that we don't know. Are we gonna get into the JFK thing right now? Mission? Well, I think we're already in there, buddy.

[Tyler Gray]

All right.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think when he said jfk, brand.

[Tyler Gray]

Do we really want to get into it?

[Donut Operator]

I mean, look, I'll say this. I'll say this about it. When I watched a reset, When I watched a reset, and I don't remember the. The name of this documentary, but I watched a documentary on, on jfk again. This was like three years ago. It makes a case on who killed him. And I was like, yeah, it makes a case on who killed him. It's a pretty solid case, dude. Like, which one? It's the one that base. It doesn't say it, but it. It basically details his connection to the mob. Basically says the mob put him in office. Basically explains the connection with JFK and the mob to Cuba. Talks about the Bay of Pigs and like that whole thing, the narrative that they like. I'm like, okay, bunch of pissed off.

[Tyler Gray]

CIA boys that got.

[Donut Operator]

Well, well, see, but see, that's the thing. Is it. It. It basically says, look, the CIA was pissed, the mob was pissed. The crazy connection that I thought was pretty damning. And this was just my personal feeling on it. Was the guy that killed Lee Harvey Oswald. Again, if I'm wrong, don't quote. Was a straight up mob hitman.

[Tyler Gray]

Yes.

[Donut Operator]

Yes. Like, not debatably, not conspiracy theory esque. Like, yeah, cut and dry. A mob hitman. So then you go, you didn't know that, Eli?

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, straight up. That is a known fact. That is a known fact. The guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald was a mob hitman fact. So once you put all those facts together, you go, okay, dude, like, you know, there's a lot more. In my mind, it was a lot more of a clearer picture where you.

[Tyler Gray]

Like, I believe the mob helped him get elected.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, I'm. Dude, I absolutely believe that.

[AJ Buckley]

What is it that his wife said, Jake? His wife? No, she said, which one? I want them to see what they've done to Jack. She wouldn't take off her. I remember seeing him. Like, why would she say something like that? Like, who's. Who's. What they've done. Who are they? What they.

[Donut Operator]

And then you got lbj because she wouldn't.

[AJ Buckley]

Wouldn't take the blood off. She wouldn't take. She wore. She wore the dress. Everything. With all. Everything on her.

[Tyler Gray]

Good on her. They're on Air Force One, and LBJ.

[Donut Operator]

And I can't remember his name, but.

[Tyler Gray]

They'Re throwing each other the. Okay.

[AJ Buckley]

And winking at each other.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, that's. See, that's another part where you're like, whoa, you don't know this?

[AJ Buckley]

No, I don't.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, it's not done.

[Donut Operator]

Zero.

[Tyler Gray]

The only thing I know about the JFK assassination is that it didn't happen the way they said it did. There's like four. Four theories that I'm like, oh, those all kind of hold their own water a little bit. But, like, the official story with cameras.

[Eli Double Tap]

I do.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, dude, again, though, as. As a sniper, dude, every time, like, sniper stuff comes up in the media, you know, I. I know enough to thank you. Do you fart? But I know. I know the hatred in your voice. I. I know enough to, like, you know, I know enough. Enough to comment. You know what I mean? Like, when the. The Secret Service happened stuff, I was like, oh, my dear God. You know, I just.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, you have a decent understanding.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Yeah. I. You know, I did it for, you know, almost five years. Like, I. You know, I. I know long range or that job, you know, not. I know well enough to.

[Eli Double Tap]

How much you now believe. It sounds like you're Josh off YouTube. Like, I watch a couple videos. I shot 10 racks.

[Donut Operator]

No, I mean, but but it was a job I liked a lot. So, you know, I. I studied it pretty in depth. And I remember years ago, like, when I first started, I just remember thinking about, like, Lee Harvey Oswald, you know, like the. For lack of a better term, the logistics. I don't know if that's the right word of those shots. And just with the rounds and the timing. And I remember shooting a bolt rifle at the time and just being like, dude, either this dude, and I don't mean, you know, know, look, he's a Sashin. But I mean, technically, I'm like, either this dude was a savage, like, just really technically proficient ripping it, or the story is not true, you know, And I. And I'm just saying that was my takeaway from doing the logistics of. And then looking at the. The. The angle and the freaking distance and the moving target speed, and I'm like, I'm not lying.

[AJ Buckley]

I mean, even the governor standing where in doubt. It was in Dallas, right? Where?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, Dallas.

[AJ Buckley]

Do they have it all marked out still? Like, can you see where.

[Donut Operator]

No, no, because they got rid of one of the buildings, I believe.

[Tyler Gray]

Well, no, they still have the. Like, they market in the street. There's like.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, really?

[Tyler Gray]

Like, table.

[Donut Operator]

I thought something changed, though, that if I'm not mistaken, something changed. And the reason I'm saying that is I think something changed. And again, I could be wrong, but I thought something changed so that they couldn't recreate it perfectly.

[Tyler Gray]

So the book. The book repository is still there. And it's funny because they have a plaque there on it where, like, it's like a thing. No matter how many times they replace it, people still carve out with knives. Allegedly, we're Lee Harvey Oswald.

[Donut Operator]

Allegedly.

[Tyler Gray]

It's like, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, there's a lot of. About that that's just kind of sideways.

[Eli Double Tap]

What's on, like, your level preferred and proficiency and still saying. It's like, man, that is. I would have trouble with that. Or could you replicate that for yourself? You're like, I can do it, but maybe like one out of ten times.

[Donut Operator]

I. From what, again, it's been a while. I don't remember.

[AJ Buckley]

There's two perfect shots, right?

[Donut Operator]

I. From what I remember. From what I remember. And again, it's been a long time, but again, there was that one point where I, like, looked at the data and then was like, oh, let me try and replicate this. And again, obviously I. I wasn't in the same location. I wasn't at the same distance, but I just remember at the time Looking at everything and thinking, I don't think I could do it. Like I. You know what I mean? I remember, I remember being pretty good at that time and thinking, I don't think I could pull this off. And, and again, I, from what I remember, I remember thinking maybe in perfect conditions, maybe after a couple rehearsals, you.

[AJ Buckley]

Know, if it was not hit anybody else.

[Donut Operator]

But, but, but I remember at the time thinking, well, he did hit, I.

[Tyler Gray]

Mean he hit the Governor. That was the thing. The Governor even was like, was throwing shade on the official story. He's like, that didn't happen that way.

[AJ Buckley]

Oh really?

[Tyler Gray]

Like one of the, one of the two guys who got shot was like, that's not lower back.

[Donut Operator]

It was almost like the Governor was like the girl that Puff Daddy shot in the face.

[Tyler Gray]

So allegedly two. Allegedly two, but supposedly three.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. And how different, different is the bolt action back then to like a bolt action?

[Donut Operator]

There's something else, if I'm not mistaken. Lee Harvey Oswald, I think he was left handed.

[Tyler Gray]

Really?

[Donut Operator]

There was something weird that was using a lefty rifle. No, I'm trying to remember, but there was some factor. Again, I don't remember what it was, but there was some additional factor of his. Of him manipulating the gun. I don't remember what it is. I, I shot a bolt action gun left handed.

[AJ Buckley]

What the.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, it's way weirder because all Oswald was right handed but had left master eye and shot from the left shoulders.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, that's.

[Donut Operator]

That's what it was. There you go.

[Eli Double Tap]

Weird.

[Donut Operator]

That's what it was.

[AJ Buckley]

So if you.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay, so you're right hand dominant. You're right. If you're right handed, you will still train right eye dominant. Dominant. Especially sniper position.

[Tyler Gray]

He had LBJ whispering right here. He shot right handed still with no shoulder.

[Donut Operator]

He's shooting what he's doing. Right shoulder, left.

[Eli Double Tap]

Right handed, left shoulder, left eye.

[Tyler Gray]

Oh, I hate that.

[Donut Operator]

So personally. Personally. So this is now what I remember. That's what's being said. I'm pretty confident I could be wrong here. They didn't see him fucking shooting. I'm pretty confident that if he was left eye dominant, I'm pretty confident he shot his left handed. Which means he would have to manipulate the bolt. This was what I recreated. He would have to manipulate the bolt over. Across the. Over the scope racket left handed, which I used to shoot a bolt. This is why I remember it. I used to shoot a bolt gun left handed because I'm left eye dominant. So that's why I remember he was the same as me. And I remember thinking, dude, shooting a bolt action left, a right hand bolt action left handed adds quite a bit of effort. Not only does it add a ton of effort to go over the bolt and rack the bolt, so that adds a ton of time. But much more importantly, if you are right handed, shooting a bolt gun, you can fire right, and you just go from the trigger up, back down. You really don't break or move your position very much. So it allows you to stay boom, boom. Left handed. Now you're going boom. You have to break completely off the scope racket and then come in and complete. Completely reacquire your speed of the follow up. No freaking. There's no way. Two and a half seconds. I think there's. There. And again, that's. That's. That was the part that I was like, there's no way. No.

[Tyler Gray]

I heard one thing that I. I found out after I made my.

[AJ Buckley]

That's your thumbnail right there.

[Tyler Gray]

After I made my JFK video, I was made aware of JFK secrets.

[Donut Operator]

Question mark. Question mark. Question mark. Operator comes clean on the JFK assassination. LBJ did it. Confirm, question mark.

[Tyler Gray]

A clickbait.

[Donut Operator]

The FBI will come to my door again. And they're like, you watching karaoke.

[Tyler Gray]

It's literally just like the meme of, like, you. You look through the little, like, porthole like Cash Patel.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think on that note, Trav's gonna close us out. But before Trav closes us out, where do we find you beautiful sons of bitches on social media and tv?

[AJ Buckley]

I'm just at AJ Buckley, say AJ Buckley, and Instagram is probably the best way. And then our new two Fake seals. Is Two fake seals.

[Tyler Gray]

The one thing I meant to ask about before we started the podcast.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, Two Fake seals. Our new podcast and show show that we just started releasing, which is basically about. It's just A.J. and I.

[AJ Buckley]

You know, the genesis of the show was when the. The China blues over our house in South Carolina. And my neighbors, they. They kept calling the China balloons literally over his house. You can see it from the backyard. So the. When my neighbors were calling all the Chinese.

[Brandon Herrera]

Chinese guys. Holy. He's holding a hat up.

[Donut Operator]

Getting impressive.

[Tyler Gray]

Can we get an Eli?

[Donut Operator]

Holy shit.

[AJ Buckley]

But we. The neighbors kept calling me, going like, aj, what. What do we do? What's. What's gonna happen? I'm like, dude, I don't know, man. I'm an actor. I don't just assume because I play Sonny Quinn and I'm a Texan on the show that I have all the answers and People. People generally will in our neighborhood will still call me or in general like, what. What's gonna happen? I'm like, I don't know, dude. I sit in the trailer. I wear makeup. I have a stunt double. I'll drink a latte.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, I'm not going down there running to your house.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's another show.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

A full on another TV show. An up class neighborhood where an actor that played a Navy SEAL becomes the badass.

[Tyler Gray]

I think it's called Galaxy Quest, which.

[Donut Operator]

A great underrated film.

[AJ Buckley]

When we came back and I was like talking to Tyler, I'm like, dude, you should put the post SEAL team. We should have you actually taking me out into the real world and because you're, you know, been a survivalist reading books in this and prepping and stuff since you were like 10 years old. I'm like, and we'll just go across and you teach me how to do all this and we'll stop off and talk to preppers and you know, just learn along the way and. And then Ty was like, we should call it two fake seals. I'm like, yeah. And then we googled such a good. And then. And then we. We. We ended up working with Ford and at Total Off Road and they're building the big. We actually pick up the Big Richard in Baton Rouge.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Two days.

[AJ Buckley]

Yeah. So we go pick it up, drive the. The truck the tremor to. To Total Off Road in South Carolina. They're gonna do a big build on it and it'll be a mo mobile podcast and we'll be driving around. So we'll come through here again with.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[AJ Buckley]

And we'll have. We're gonna have like the toy trailer that we'll be pulling and that'll be the studio. That'll be the studio and the Little Richard. And then it'll have the. It's it the build that they're doing on the. Some of the stuff that the early.

[Donut Operator]

It's crazy. Yeah, it's pretty.

[AJ Buckley]

So it's going to be going then each. At the end of each season we'll raffle off the Big Richard. That'll be Richard. Big Richard 2.0. So and really like the whole overland community and stuff. I really love Grid over like self Reliance. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

We just. We basically want to freaking do that.

[AJ Buckley]

We love.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Yeah. But we want to take the, you know, kind of the, you know, prepper used to be. Dude, I've been a survivalist nerd since I was a little kid gun fanatic. And. And I've always been that guy and you know, Covid changed things because Covid, it was like, oh, you were a weird survivalist prepper person. Now we're cool, dude. We became cool. Just like, dude, I was a Stardom wars nerd when it wasn't.

[AJ Buckley]

Guess who is toilet paper.

[Donut Operator]

I had. I shit you not, I probably had a hundred thousand rounds in my garage, right? I got a thousand guns. I mean, crazy. And then I'm like sitting there and I'm like, toilet paper. I didn't see this coming. You know what I mean? I'm like, I have everything. But I didn't stock up on toilet paper. Such a mild concern. I know. I was like. I was like, yeah, I mean true. I was like, you know, a hundred.

[Tyler Gray]

Thousand rounds means you have your neighbor's toilet.

[Donut Operator]

But it was just. The point is, what do we do?

[Eli Double Tap]

You give me your toilet paper.

[Donut Operator]

We can. Cause we can protect you the easy way. Guess who's king of toilet paper now?

[Tyler Gray]

What am I gonna eat in the apocalypse? Your food?

[AJ Buckley]

I was like, Todd, when we were just discussing ideas of show, I'm like, well, what will we do doing? He's like, we're not gonna. No one's gonna go out to the woods. So we're. I'm gonna teach you how to like survive in the city. I'm like, what we do? He goes, we're taking over a Walmart. That Walmart is gonna be ours.

[Donut Operator]

I was like, yeah, survival situation. I'm like, dude, I'll take over at Walmart. I'll be the king of Walmart.

[Brandon Herrera]

A solid concrete building with three entries.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, I can hold that. I can hold that with my homies. And then, dude, you want, you want cereal? Deal with the king. King Tyler, whatever. King Tyler.

[Tyler Gray]

Tyler Gray, king of loss prevention.

[Donut Operator]

But so we went full service.

[Brandon Herrera]

You're not gonna have the thousand dollar.

[Donut Operator]

Shopping lift count Chocula, you know. So it was just one of those things where it people now know, like fires. I mean, dude, part of LA burned down. So the point being is what people thought was impossible, they're now seeing, dude, anything can happen. So just that mentality, you're no longer the weird prepper. People realize that anything can happen at any time. And I think people are ready to start listening how to take care care of themselves and not be in a position where they constantly have to rely on other people, let alone the government.

[AJ Buckley]

But also too like take, take it. Like take away the doom and gloom from it and like really play into the comedy of it. Like if they're laughing, they're listening. Like enter. Like, have fun.

[Donut Operator]

Not make it so serious.

[AJ Buckley]

Like, have, like, you know, have fun. Have fun. Take the piss out of me while I make an ass. Complete ass of myself and. And do that. And then just like we were even today where we're like talking about how fun it's going to be just to like, go do that we want to go do, like, and go, you know, like, kind of like what you guys.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it's really inspiring to be create, you know, create, you know, monetize your hobbies and just take what we like doing. We're doing the show because it's what we like doing. We like that space. We like learning new products, great companies, great people, and. And that's what the show is.

[AJ Buckley]

And then traveling through the country POV of me learning the stuff on the way. Will we have that sort of as the viewer will be through my eyes, learning how to survive in the real world.

[Eli Double Tap]

Great idea.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, we're psyched.

[AJ Buckley]

So, yeah, really, really, really excited to do it. And honestly, thank you so much for, for having us, man, because you guys are. Are legends in. In this space. So it's. It's really awesome to get to meet you all and. And be here with you.

[Tyler Gray]

Cor. Legends. You guys had the best stories.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, I think we're going like, we're still.

[Donut Operator]

You ever heard of this guy called Ronald Reagan? We're like, oh, but yeah, on that note, you know, check us out at two fake seals on Instagram and then my Tyler a gray at Instagram or on Instagram, whatever. And again, as AJ Said, thanks so much for having us guys and it's absolutely awesome to. To come onto the show. You guys are crushing it and we.

[Eli Double Tap]

Really appreciate you having us any day.

[Tyler Gray]

Been a genuine pleasure to have you guys.

[AJ Buckley]

This is the fun as stoked.

[Donut Operator]

Awesome.

[AJ Buckley]

Thanks, guys.

[Donut Operator]

Jfk, question mark, Question mark question.

[Tyler Gray]

It was the driver. See you guys later. Wrap it up.

[Donut Operator]

Thank you so much for joining us on the Unsubscribe podcast. I was joined today by Mr. Eli Double Tap, Mr. Fat Electrician, Mr. A.J.

[AJ Buckley]

Buckley.

[Donut Operator]

Buckley. Thank you. Sorry, Mr. Ty.

[Tyler Gray]

Tyler Gray.

[AJ Buckley]

We got.

[Donut Operator]

Branded. Brandon Herrera. There it is.

[Tyler Gray]

Thank you. Thank you. And I, as always, am Donut Operator or King Crowd, depending on who you ask. Thank you for joining us. Ozempic Donut.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Tyler Gray]

Thank you guys so much for coming out.

[AJ Buckley]

Thanks.

[Donut Operator]

Good stuff.