Legendary UFC Fighter Don Frye Bullies The Gang | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 234

Summary

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Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 234: Legendary UFC Fighter Don Frye Bullies The Gang

Date: October 11, 2025
Guests: Don Frye
Hosts: Eli Doubletap, Brandon Herrera, Donut Operator, The Fat Electrician

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Overview

This lively episode features legendary MMA fighter and character Don Frye, who joins the Unsubscribe Podcast crew for a rowdy, hilarious, and at times profound dive into the early days of the UFC, his career, the evolution of MMA, and a no-holds-barred reflection on toughness, personal injuries, and the cultural changes in fighting and law enforcement. Expect classic Don Frye quips, wild stories of old-school fighting, musings on modern masculinity, and a barrage of jokes and running gags, as Frye “bullies the gang” with his gruff but lovable demeanor.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Don Frye Sets the Tone

• The show opens with Don Frye immediately dropping rough humor and banter about fighting and manhood.
• The team jokes extensively about Don Frye as their new (and terrifying) "HR manager."

  "Here's a complaint box right here, boy." — Don Frye (02:39)

2. Old-School UFC Stories

• Don explains the ultra-tough, rule-light era of 1990s UFC: fighting three times in one night, mostly style vs. style, optional gloves, and limited information about opponents.

  "You want to go in there just like a wedding night—you know, it's in and out." — Don Frye (10:39)

• He broke down the insane conditions: "No rules, no weight classes...two rules: no biting, no eye-gouging, but those were more guidelines than rules."
• He reflects on minimal medical support and wild unpredictability.

3. Frye’s Early Life and Career Path

• Wrestling in high school and college, dabbling in pro boxing, life as a firefighter and horseshoer: Frye details humble beginnings and blue-collar jobs.
• He shares hilarious stories of being paid $4/hour as a Santa Fe firefighter and how a series of random jobs led him to fighting.

  "I said, well, that's a job for me, 'cause I'm a lazy son of a—" — Don Frye (14:32)

4. Fighting in Japan – Culture and Craziness

• Frye describes the culture shock and unique electricity of 1990s Japan, contrasting the stoic day-to-day existence with explosive enthusiasm at fights.
• He touches on pro wrestling in Japan—“it’s still a work, but way stiffer”—and shares how he broke his neck during a match, working a year and a half before getting it properly diagnosed.

  "You broke your neck and walked it off for a year and a half." — Host (22:19)
  "That ain't the worst of it, partner." — Don Frye

• Tales of Japanese after-parties: paid appearances, lavish buffets, and endless sake.

5. Injuries, Grit, and Recovery

• Frye recounts a staggering list of injuries: multiple neck breaks, back breaks, hand fractures, chronic pain, and surgeries—often unaware until years later.
• His approach to recovery?

  "Just take some pills and drink some alcohol and I'll walk it off." — Don Frye (23:00)

• The psychological toll after a fight: post-event depression, struggling to find purpose, and the mental void following the high of competition.

  "It's like coming back from war, you gotta deescalate everything. Or coming out of prison…because all your time, your training, everything is calculated for six weeks, and then boom, it’s over." — Don Frye (34:09)

6. Reflections on Modern MMA & UFC

• The crew discusses how training, athlete health, and event production have changed ("now they've got everything" vs. “blue tarps for locker room walls”).
• On today's fighters cherry-picking matches vs. Frye's era:

  "Sure, I'll fight three random dudes on February 8th." — Host (49:29)

• Frye's diet and “caloric intake” while training:

  "I bet I ate about 8,000 calories a day." — Don Frye (43:10)

7. Favorite Fighters, Modern Takes, & Classic Matches

• Frye's current faves: Alex Pereira ("nicest guy in the world") and Justin Gaethje for their style and personality; he’s also a fan of Sean Strickland’s offbeat, unfiltered attitude.
• Discussion of legendary fights, like Gaethje vs. Ferguson and “empty arena” matches during COVID.
• Classic old-school characters like Tank Abbott, Gary Goodridge, with tales of post-career transformations.

8. Legacy, Media, and Masculinity

• Frye plugs his YouTube ventures (“Don Frye USA” and “Toxic Masculinity” with Dan Severn). The crew discusses his viral political incorrectness, and operating in today's attention-driven media landscape as an old-school icon.
• Amidst the jokes, Frye remains self-aware and accepting of his past:

  “I’m trying to do what you do for a living now, huh?” — Don Frye (115:11)

9. Martial Arts, Training Philosophy, and Advice

• Frye stresses the unmatched discipline of wrestling compared to Jiu Jitsu:

  “Wrestling’s the toughest thing you’ll ever do in your life…the discipline, the grind.” (111:55)

• The hosts agree, swapping stories about training, modern versus classic techniques, and recognizing athletes by their posture and intensity.

10. Genuinely Funny and Unfiltered Moments

• The recurring "HR" bit and Don Frye’s stone-faced delivery slay the room.
• The “superpower” riff — Frye requests x-ray vision for women’s clothes or “erections on demand,” which he jokes his ex-wife already took half of (65:46).
• Plenty of running gags, from “Employee of the Month: Don Frye” to tales of pink gis, mimosa jokes, and mock outrage over modern “DEI” policies in fire departments and policing.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Don’s HR Tactics:
  "Here's a complaint box right here, boy." (02:39)
• On Modern Fighters:
  “You only have to put yourself in the ring with one professional fighter at a time. That’s what people—oh, I could do that. No, you can’t, that’s a professional athlete. He’s trained to kick your head off, buddy.” (28:31)
• On Injuries & Denial:
  “Sir, your spine's broken.”
  “I just take some pills and drink some alcohol and walk it off.” (23:00)
• On Fame and the New Social Media World:
  “I talk more in these four hours than I do all week when I’m at home—just me and my bulldog.” (84:31)
• Favorite Fighters:
  “I like Pereira, you know…nicest guy in the world. Real stoic, focused, but gives the time to everybody.” (57:45)
• Joking About Superpowers:
  “Either I could see through women’s clothes or have an erection as long as I want, anytime I want.” (66:01)
• Classic Sign-off:
  “Hell, yeah. You’ve seen them horses! That bald face he’s got on that show [Yellowstone], beautiful horse!” (70:33)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:39] – Don Frye sets the “HR” tone
• [10:39] – UFC in the ‘90s: Three fights a night, no rules
• [14:32] – Firefighting in Santa Fe on $4/hour
• [18:21] – Culture shock of fighting in Japan
• [22:19] – Breaking his neck (and walking it off)
• [34:09] – Depression after fights, comparing to “coming back from war”
• [43:10] – Eating 8,000 calories a day, family/fighting balance
• [49:29] – Contrast of old vs. modern UFC: “Sure, I’ll fight three random dudes…”
• [57:45] – Favorite modern fighters: Pereira and Gaethje
• [65:46] – Superpower jokes and off-color humor
• [84:31] – Adjusting to life and communication in the social media age
• [111:55] – Advice: Wrestling tops all for discipline and toughness
• [115:11] – Frye on being a YouTuber ("trying to do what you do now")

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Tone & Style

The energy is irreverent, loud, and fast-paced; Don Frye dominates with dry, old-school bravado while the crew puts him through their signature mix of sincere questions and relentless clowning. Beneath the bravado, Frye shares real wisdom about hardship, ego, discipline, regret, and grit—balanced by laugh-out-loud crotchety “boomerisms,” running HR jokes, and a total disregard for “PC” norms.

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Takeaways

• Don Frye is the embodiment of a bygone era: candid, tough as nails, and impossible to scandalize.
• Early UFC fighting was more wild and dangerous than most fans even realize.
• Recovery—mentally and physically—was brutal and unscientific; the psychological letdown after big events was profound.
• Advice to young fighters: wrestling offers unmatched preparation for life and combat.
• Don’s humor and intensity never fade, and the Unsubscribe crew rides his energy to one of their most chaotic, candid, and hysterical episodes.

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Links:

• Don Frye YouTube: Don Frye USA
• “Toxic Masculinity with Dan & Don” (separate channel)

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Listen to this episode if you want:

• Unvarnished old-school fight stories
• A flood of wild, offbeat humor
• Raw takes on masculinity, resilience, pain, and fighting
• To watch Don Frye “bully” the podcast gang—for two hours straight

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Don Fry]

Yeah, you want to go in there without shooting your butt Like a wedding night, you know it's in and out.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You broke your neck and walked it off for a year and a half.

[Don Fry]

Well, that ain't the worst of it. Partners.

[Donut Operator]

Straight up modern day gladiators, dude.

[Brandon Herrera]

We can rebuild them. Stronger, faster, hornier. Let's just lift weights.

[Don Fry]

Oh, come on, sweetheart.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon, we're so sorry. Feet are done. Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguous. Brandon. His hair is fabulous. And donut a doctor disposition. And there's a fat electrician. Welcome to Unsubscribe. Hey, what is up everyone? Next week starts the live shows in San Antonio. So we are super excited to get that rolling. Prepping our livers and then seeing and hanging out with all of you. We are super, super excited. If you haven't got tickets yet, head over to unsubcrew.com live shows and pick them up so you don't get the marked up ones. Holy. Are they marked up on scalper sites? That's not us. That will never be us. For the San Antonio show, we are talking with them. We are making sure all of you are taken care of. Any of the confusion or moving of the seats with the transfer of theaters. We are taking care of that. I want you all to know that. Truly appreciate you all reaching out if problems do arise. And we are on top of it, trying our best in the midst of everything else. And last thing, keep an eye open for the 18th. We have a something happening. The energy drinks are launching Jerry Limeland mine. Keep an eye open for the 18th on that. We'll do a bigger announcement. See you guys at the live show. Enjoy Dawn Fry saying some stuff. Love y'.

[Donut Operator]

All.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm quitting the podcast due to breach of contract.

[Donut Operator]

Firing Finn again.

[Eli Double Tap]

Again. Finn. Why are you still here? Finn, last week and the week before, we have fired you so many times.

[Donut Operator]

Why do you bring Cody around? He just keeps firing Finn.

[Eli Double Tap]

Then we have to rehire him moments later. It confuses him. He's scared right now.

[Brandon Herrera]

Litigation is a nightmare.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's just we've been in a legal battle with our camera guy for two years now.

[Donut Operator]

Talk to our new HR guy, Don Fry.

[Brandon Herrera]

Take a number.

[Eli Double Tap]

I Quit.

[Don Fry]

Here's a complaint box right here. Boy.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, you're just a walking merch line. Here's your complaint box.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Me and you guys showed up a little bit later than we did to brunch before. We did, me and Brandon and Don did the drink orders, and Brandon orders, you know, Jack and coke. I just had coffee. Don goes, I'll have bourbon. And the little bubbly waitress comes over with her big smile, trying to get a good tip. She's like, okay, I have. And just starts reading off a laundry list of all these decadent mixed drinks. And Don just goes, can I just have bourbon? And then as she goes to walk away, he goes, make it a double. I don't want you to wear your shoes out on the way.

[Brandon Herrera]

It set the tone pretty fucking well.

[Don Fry]

It got it going.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Poor, poor little girl. Okay, so I think she got her 10,000 steps in, you know?

[Eli Double Tap]

Don, do you know how this works? We're on the count of three. We're gonna pop a top. Just buy that microphone. I got you a beer. Everyone. Ready? Three, two, one.

[Donut Operator]

Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, fat electrician Don Fry, Brandon Herrera, myself, donut operator. Thank you so much for being here.

[Brandon Herrera]

Have a little spillage there, Nick.

[Eli Double Tap]

A little bit. It's okay.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Was shaking up. It's not my fault.

[Eli Double Tap]

Sorry. Well, it didn't blow up on. Okay.

[Brandon Herrera]

We could just. We could just beat Fen again.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I blame Fen.

[Eli Double Tap]

You just blame Fen.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Shook up my beer's like, why?

[Eli Double Tap]

Didn't touch your beer, dude.

[Unnamed Host 1]

F. Can I have a paper towel? Okay.

[Don Fry]

First HR needs a work. Good idea.

[Eli Double Tap]

And there's no paper towels. We're setting them up.

[Unnamed Host 1]

How about regular towels?

[Don Fry]

Finn could up a two car funeral. You know, a wet one. That's surprising coming from you.

[Brandon Herrera]

Jesus Christ.

[Donut Operator]

This has been.

[Eli Double Tap]

I. I sat down, I look over to get my drink, and I'm like, oh, Don's drinking whiskey. Just. Okay, it's a glass. Okay. I will take a mimosa. You need a skirt with that. I'm like, yeah, here we. Here we go.

[Donut Operator]

It's a man mosa.

[Brandon Herrera]

When there's vodka in it, it's a man Most.

[Don Fry]

Oh, okay. Yeah, because it's. It's a potato, but potato alcohol. Just a walking, walking potato, aren't you?

[Donut Operator]

It's like calming alcohol.

[Eli Double Tap]

Listen here. Duh.

[Donut Operator]

I do. I do think we should hang up a picture in here that says human resources, Don Fry. And just have a picture just on.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The Wall Employee of the month.

[Don Fry]

Every month. Of the month.

[Eli Double Tap]

Human resources.

[Donut Operator]

Human resources Time.

[Eli Double Tap]

We're adding that now. That's going right back there. Employee of the month and hr. Just Don Fry.

[Brandon Herrera]

Don Fry. HR Department face.

[Eli Double Tap]

Never changing. How are you doing, brother? We have been so excited to have you on this episode. This is why all of us are here. It's been a couple of months in the. In the making, getting the teams aligned and then the schedules aligned. But thank you so much.

[Don Fry]

Nice to be here. Nice to be here. Thanks for having me. Guys. Coming up with a mustache and beard wax. I'll get you three. Whenever you decide to grow one, we'll get you one.

[Eli Double Tap]

My Asian and Mexican heritage.

[Don Fry]

Got a kitty formula for you.

[Eli Double Tap]

There's four months in the work.

[Brandon Herrera]

Three pack.

[Don Fry]

You trying to grow mustache?

[Eli Double Tap]

One day I'll hit puberty.

[Brandon Herrera]

Three packages of beer product, a beard product, and one package with the beard product.

[Donut Operator]

And a bottle of Rogaine.

[Eli Double Tap]

This formula.

[Don Fry]

What's.

[Unnamed Host 1]

What's the brand going to be called?

[Don Fry]

And little nipple bottle.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

What's the brand going to be called?

[Don Fry]

You know, that's a good question. I kind of jumped the gun on that one, didn't I? I think it's Don Fry something or other.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Toxic masculinity is a good, good line for that, too.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, it should be. It should be.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's a really good title for beard oil.

[Donut Operator]

We were hanging out with. With Baker. Brandon and I went on a dove hunt with him, and he was asking about you the whole time. He's like, how's sushi burrito doing?

[Eli Double Tap]

I love Baker.

[Donut Operator]

This is our sushi burrito.

[Don Fry]

Sushi burrito. Speaking of sushi, raw fish and a tortilla.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm just the schnitzel burrito. Oh, the. The joke is because it's German ancestry and Mexican, so it's just a schnitzel over there.

[Don Fry]

What's the joke?

[Brandon Herrera]

No, it's not. It's just reality.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's just happy. Half German. I don't know why I say the racist part for the Mexican side.

[Don Fry]

Sour sauerkraut, some refried beans and sauerkraut.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude.

[Donut Operator]

Don. We did a good podcast with his grandmother who was in Nazi occupied Germany. It was fun hearing her stories because, like, she was. She inadvertently attended some of the. The Hitler rallies. Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I mean, as a small child.

[Brandon Herrera]

Reality of, like, growing up. She's 93 years old, so she was a German civilian during World War II in Mannheim, Germany.

[Don Fry]

Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

And just.

[Don Fry]

I, we're.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm very, very lucky that she's still around and very sharp still and can remember all these stories of what it's like growing up under Nazi occupation.

[Don Fry]

Crazy stories. She needs a need to record that and force the kids of today to listen to it, you know, because, yeah, they had it kind of hard. Yeah, they got no idea.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, no, zero idea.

[Brandon Herrera]

Not being able to go to school because it got blown up.

[Don Fry]

Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, we think we have problems today.

[Eli Double Tap]

You know, we're very blessed. And a lot of people don't realize.

[Don Fry]

No, they don't. They never get a. Outside their own city block. You know, they don't get more than 200 yards away from their house and they want to. And complain, you know, about. About the country. This is the greatest country on the planet, you know.

[Donut Operator]

Texas.

[Don Fry]

Texas, this is number two, usa. I forgot you. You guys kind of slow. Let me speak slower here.

[Eli Double Tap]

Man. To the individuals or the audience that don't know who you are, can you give a brief. Hey, this is why the guys are so hyped that you're here, because you are an og.

[Don Fry]

This is why the guys are so hyped down here.

[Eli Double Tap]

He bullies us and that's the only reason we are so stoked to have.

[Donut Operator]

Him on human res.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

The gang gets bullied for two hours.

[Don Fry]

Throw my tampon at me.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So you were. You were two time UFC champion, right?

[Don Fry]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Two time.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Two time. Fought in the UFC for a year. How many fights you have?

[Don Fry]

I had 10 fights in the UFC and then also 11th fight over in Japan that year. It was in November, so it was a few weeks before the Ultimate. Ultimate two, you know.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

And they weren't happy about it, you know, but that's. Hell. They're. They're paying me $25,000.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Right.

[Don Fry]

You know, you want to pay me, I'll stay home.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So back when you were fighting, it was tournament style. So what's the most amount of fights you had in a night?

[Don Fry]

We'd fight three times a night if. If you're lucky enough to win. Yeah. You'd advance three fights.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah, so I have. So, like UFC today, obviously, every dude that goes into a fight is watching footage of the other fighters, because it's much more relevant available now than it was for us. I mean, you're like doing groundwork, like, oh, this guy does this. I'm going to do that. And there's all this game planning that goes in when you're planning on fighting one or two or three guys a year. What's the game plan for knowing that you're going to fight three dudes a night. You don't know much about them. Like, what's your strategy going into the first fight compared to the second and third fight? Are you trying to conserve energy on the first fight?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, you want to go in there without shooting your. What? You know, you want to go in there just like a wedding night, you know, it's in and out like that.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So.

[Eli Double Tap]

And again, anyone that doesn't know when you have a fight now, you'll have a fight camp that's a few months long. And then you will. Next thing you are watching the individual you were fighting, you were studying. There's a lot more cameras, everything's filmed now back in that time. This is three big ass fights with three highly talented fighters all in the same evening. And however many rounds those lasted at that time, what was it?

[Don Fry]

Well, they were all one round, but they were, they would. There was no break, you know, you would just go until the fight was over. There were no rules, no weight classes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Jesus Christ.

[Don Fry]

Well, there's two rules. No biting, no agy. But those are more guidelines and rules. Everybody did it anyways.

[Eli Double Tap]

This is like full on stomping on your face. Like I was showing Brandon.

[Don Fry]

Soccer kick, heel stomp bumps. Yeah, I mean, they did it all.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So how, how much did you know about your opponents going in at times? Like, were there ever times where you like, didn't know if your opponent was a ground guy or a striker? Did you know, kind of have an idea of what their style was or.

[Don Fry]

You, you had their style. You know, back then it was more style versus style.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

And so you just find out what the style was of the other seven competitors and then you, you plan for it accordingly, you know, and most of, most of them were. The majority of them were stand up fighters.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

So, you know, you knew all you had to do is get them on.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The ground when you were doing it. Were gloves required or optional?

[Don Fry]

No, they were optional.

[Unnamed Host 1]

They were optional. Still. You chose to wear them though.

[Don Fry]

I chose to wear them because I hit hard and I still broke my hand, you know, Broke my hand twice. You can see the surgery scar there.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You wore shoes too?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, except for the. Except for in the Ultimate. Ultimate. I went barefoot in that one.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The reason or you had to?

[Don Fry]

No, I just. For some reason I decided not to because I knew Ken Shamrock was going to be in there. And so I sure didn't want him getting a hold of me, you know, with his shoe. Yeah, yeah. Because he's. He is dangerous. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

You know, what was even getting into that? What was that transition from, hey, we talked earlier. You did some boxing and then wrestling. And what was that blending of the arts where it was the first time of, hey, here's a different type of fighting where it's mma. It's, hey, we're grappling and throwing fists. What was that first experience outside the ufc?

[Don Fry]

Well, you know, like I said, I wrestled in high school, college, little international. And then I did, after college, wrestling. I did a year and a half Pro boxing. Had eight fights, I think it was. I was 2, 5 and 1 or 2 and 6. Wasn't very good at it. And it's hard. Yeah, yeah. Hard to pick up, you know, late in life. And then I got out and I just worked for a few years, and my first marriage started going bad, so I found the judo club. So I started doing judo, you know, so I could stay away from the house. You know, everything. I was a fireman. On my days off, I was shoeing horses, you know, and what a little time I had left. I went to the judo club and released my. Release, my frustration.

[Eli Double Tap]

I truly love it.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Those poor guys.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, God. Yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You still being a. I'm gonna go shoe the horses and throw a guy across the room.

[Donut Operator]

You were telling us earlier you were. I didn't know this about you. You were a firefighter for a couple years in Los Angeles.

[Don Fry]

No, no, no, I said, I started out in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, okay.

[Don Fry]

Because I took a civil as in college for something, and somebody told me about being a firefighter and only working 10 days a month. I said, well, that's a job for me, you know, because I'm a lazy son of a. And so I took my EMT and got out the old phone book. Back then, you know, we had a phone book and went through every town in the state of Arizona. Nobody was hiring. So then I called up Santa Fe, New Mexico, because, you know, it's the capital of a state. So you figure they pay good now. They didn't pay worth of shit. You know, I went down, went there. They said, yeah, we're. We're going. About to run a test, you know, hire much people. So I went over there, passed everything, and then went for the interview. And he says, you only pay this much a month. This comes out this much a week, comes out this much a day, which is about $4 an hour. Are you okay with that? I'm thinking these guys are full of. They're just here to see if I'm here for the Money or not. No, no, that sounds great. I just want to be firemen. Got my first check. Holy balls of $4 an hour. And I loved it there. Beautiful. Santa Fe's beautiful. Beautiful. You know, people are great, but, you know, couldn't afford to live there. So I was there for about a year, you know, went through the academy, lived at a buddy's house and went through the academy. And then I was there for, like I said, for about a year. And then we couldn't. We couldn't afford to live there anymore. Had to move. Move my wife back home and I went off to Oklahoma horse showing school or now to shoe horses. Came back and, and work some odd jobs and while I'm trying to establish my business and then start on the fry fire department. No relation, you know, and as a reserve and worked for them and then finally the position came open with Bisbee fire. So I got hired. Bisbee.

[Donut Operator]

Nice. Man, that's. That's wild. They couldn't even pay the people who are keeping your house from burning down enough to live in the town.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, that's all fucked.

[Donut Operator]

Nuts, man.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm noticing the recurring theme of wife went home, you went to Oklahoma.

[Don Fry]

I pack up and leave. Oh, there's more to that story.

[Brandon Herrera]

You like a mouthful of hard wood?

[Don Fry]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Go on then.

[Brandon Herrera]

Boy, do I have a product for you.

[Donut Operator]

I'm reenlisting in the Navy.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, not this time.

[Don Fry]

Oh.

[Brandon Herrera]

The product is Fume.

[Eli Double Tap]

What's Fume?

[Brandon Herrera]

It's an amazing device for those trying to kick those nasty habits.

[Eli Double Tap]

When you said hard wood, you actually meant hard wood.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm sorry to disappoint, but yes, I mean literal hardwood.

[Eli Double Tap]

I love hardwood in my mouth.

[Brandon Herrera]

Wait, you know what's gayer than hard wood in your mouth? Dying from cancer.

[Eli Double Tap]

Fume has an award winning design.

[Brandon Herrera]

There's no battery, no chemicals, just flavored air.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dial that airflow with the clickies. Brandon, you ever tried maple pepper?

[Brandon Herrera]

No. I like crisp mint because I'm a coward when it comes to flavors.

[Eli Double Tap]

Cody, what's your favorite?

[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

That is a sexy and sleek piece of wood right there, Cody.

[Don Fry]

Oh yeah, put it in your mouth.

[Eli Double Tap]

Suck that flavored air.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[Unnamed Host 1]

What. What years were you in Japan?

[Don Fry]

Let's see. I would say 97 to 2008.

[Eli Double Tap]

Damn.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

During that period, what was it like being in Japan as the most aggressively American man on the planet? Going over there?

[Don Fry]

It was fun. It was a lot of fun.

[Unnamed Host 1]

What was the culture shock like the first time you were there?

[Don Fry]

Oh, man, the poor people, you. You walk down the street and it's. It's like a bunch of zombies. You know, their eyes are dead, you know, they're just. They. They don't have a soul, you know, because they just had everything ripped from them, you know, after World War II.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

And there's, like, no hope in their eyes, you know, and they, they. But they come to the. They come at. To the wrestling matches or the fights, and that's. That's where they have their excitement, you know, they come alive. They come alive for that stuff.

[Unnamed Host 1]

That's awesome.

[Eli Double Tap]

Did you participate in some of the wrestling events, like the pro wrestling side?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah. Pro wrestler for four years.

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

See, that's.

[Eli Double Tap]

And that's wild. So you have. Pro wrestling in Japan is very different than American pro wrestling. And those fighters, your Sakurabas, like the Gracie Hunter, he was a wrestler. Pro wrestler, too, but also a fantastic fighter. How was that experience going over there? And like, hey, this is pro wrestling. But it's also legitimate on the side of the. We can hurt. We can really hurt you.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's more like fighting. Fighting over there.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, but it's stiffer. It's. It's not. It's still a work, you know, but it's stiffer and. But I guess I got a little bit too stiff and gotta. Got a couple, you know, I give them a call to potato, you know, then if I gave you a big potato, you would give me a receipt, you know, And a couple of times got my neck broke because.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, yeah, that's a big potato.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's a hot potato.

[Don Fry]

My hands and knees. And the guy stomped me, and he stomped it, and I heard it crack. And I go, that don't sound good. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Oh.

[Don Fry]

And worked on it for a year and a half, and then I started having, you know, that's when I noticed this was going wrong. This going wrong. And then finally got it. Got the X ray and the mri and the doctor said, well, you got a broken neck. And he says, you're gonna stop this. And I says, well, I can't. I got. I got the Tokyo dome, you know, January 4th. And she says, you can't do that. You got a broken neck. I says, you understand? I work for the Japanese. I gotta do it, you know.

[Eli Double Tap]

Holy.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, I called him up and says, hey, doctor says I can't. I can't wrestle, you know, on the 4th because I got a broken neck. And here, Don San. We know it's your. Your neck and your health and all, but we've already advertised. You think you could push it one more time? Yeah. Okay.

[Brandon Herrera]

The other guy, at least kind of go easy on you, knowing that, you know, he could kill you.

[Don Fry]

I hope so. Yeah. Stop being a.

[Unnamed Host 1]

How long. How long was it between breaking your neck and the MRI and finding out you had broken your neck?

[Don Fry]

I had broken it. I had broken it and worked on it for a year and a half, you know, because that's. That's how dumb I am.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You broke your neck and walked it off for a year and a half.

[Don Fry]

Well, that ain't the worst of it, partner.

[Eli Double Tap]

Jesus.

[Don Fry]

They fixed. Go on. They fixed it in 2000, and then I, you know, went back to fighting in 2001. And then, let's see, me, May 2010. I broke it again in 08 or 09. And May 2010. May 2011. Am I getting the dates wrong? Hell, when my dates made me up here. But anyways, I'm not questioning one year. One year I had five surgeries, neck surgeries. And then I was good for a couple years, and then I had a truck accident. My tire blew out, bounced me against the guardrail twice and pitched me into the median. You know, I thought, hey, I'm good. You know, I survived that. I'm good to go. And my back started aching just a little bit. Anyways, two years later, I found out I broke it in that. In that accident again, you know, so I broke my back.

[Brandon Herrera]

And these are, like, each individually, like, career ending injuries.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah, I'm too dumb.

[Eli Double Tap]

Typical guy of. I'm not going to the doctor.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, I'm fine.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, I'm fine. Sir, your spine's broken.

[Don Fry]

I just take some pills and drink some alcohol and I'll walk it off.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I know you don't go to a checkup, but it'd be funny to take you to one and record it just to hear the doctor read your health chart out loud. I see you broke your neck in 1999 and in 2008, and then you broke your back, and then you broke your hand twice, and then.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, well, the first time I broke my neck was in 86, back when I was in college wrestling. And me and Dan Severn's younger brother Rod. We went down to my house, my parents house, and we went out, we were drinking and had those three wheelers. Remember those traps? Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

With the big reds?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah. And so the illegal things. Yeah, yeah. So we're. We're drinking and riding the thing and jumping and jumping and all this on this course. And then we see some guys pull up, you know, in their. In their suits with the shoulder pads and elbow pads and gloves and helmets. You know, look at the little.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I got.

[Don Fry]

Okay, one more. Boom, boom, boom. Broke my neck. And then. Didn't know that either. I didn't know that until 2001, when it. When they fused, when they fixed my broken neck from wrestling. You know, they said, when did you. When'd you break your neck the first time? I said, I didn't know. I did.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dear God.

[Donut Operator]

All right, Finn, next time you call in for a sick day, you're gonna have to talk to HR okay?

[Don Fry]

I don't get sick anymore. Damn right you don't.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's like that.

[Brandon Herrera]

It reminds me of the assassination.

[Eli Double Tap]

Now sick gets me.

[Brandon Herrera]

The assassination of Jesse James, where the guy tries to get up in the middle of the night, he pulls a pistol. I just got to go to the bathroom. You think you do, but you don't.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So every. I've talked to a lot of, you know, first. First generation MMA guys and pro wrestlers and stuff. They all have a crazy story about going to Japan and going out drinking with the Yakuza or something crazy happens after their fight in Japan. You got a story like that?

[Don Fry]

Not that I can remember.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, well, it must have been a good one.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

What was one of the funnest nights in Japan, like, with that audience? You're like, I know you became friends. I don't know if it was during Pride or after with Takayama.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Were you guys like. Did you ever party with him?

[Don Fry]

No, we didn't. We didn't party because, you know, after. After our fight, he went to the hospital, you know. Yep. God bless him. And I think he might have went to the party for a little bit, but they kept us separated, you know, because, you know, after. After the party, they sell. They'll sell tickets to people. You know, there'll be a thousand people at these after parties. Yeah. And, you know, they're all paying, you know, thousand dollars or what have you, you know, to rub elbows with you. And so, you know, you're there drinking and taking photos and all that good stuff.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Is that.

[Donut Operator]

Is that like a club type environment, just, like, blasting music and you're hanging out with people. No quiet bar.

[Don Fry]

It's not in between somewhere.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

You know, because they have a big buffet and you know, they have food and then they have, you know, a lot, a lot of alcohol. A lot of the big sake barrels.

[Brandon Herrera]

You know, it's just like the official after party.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, right.

[Donut Operator]

They have sake barrels.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

The Japanese love to drink. I'm sure you've seen they.

[Don Fry]

They get after it.

[Donut Operator]

I've seen the, like the, the viral videos online of the Japanese businessmen that just. They're laying on the street after work because they got shithouse.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And there are people that come around and like, bring them water and stuff. And that's part of the culture.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, dude is wild. Waking up at Sunday. We went to bed, we got drunk early, passed out, woke up early and it's like 6 in the morning. I walked around just to a 7 11. There is shit wrecked old Japanese businessman passed out in the stream. Like, what the. I walk into 7 11, walk out and there's an old Japanese dude in a suit pissing in front of me. I was like.

[Brandon Herrera]

Imagine. That's just a culture where you're just like, it's Sunday morning. It's like, there's my dad.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

They go hard especially. They are very much just, hey, I'm abc. That's all I'm doing.

[Don Fry]

They work their ass off.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's it.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Boom, boom, boom.

[Eli Double Tap]

They party their ass off.

[Don Fry]

You got a small island, you know, a lot of people. And so there's limited housing, you know, limited space. So, you know, you can only buy so much electronics, you know, equipment, so much furniture, so much clothes, you know, and. And so you gotta have something to spend your money on. You can't save enough money to buy a house out in the country. So, you know, that money's for entertainment.

[Eli Double Tap]

And they love entertainment.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[Eli Double Tap]

Is that what how the fight culture is over there? Because that's very different. It sounds like for even the after party party, it's. Everyone's paying money just to hang out, socialize with you guys. And then you've just done three fights and now we're drinking and partying over there.

[Don Fry]

I only had to fight one once. Once a night. So.

[Brandon Herrera]

Only.

[Eli Double Tap]

Only.

[Brandon Herrera]

You only have to put yourself in the ring with one professional fighter at a time.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, one professional. That's what people. Oh, I could do that. No, you can't. No, you can't. That's a professional athlete, you know, and he's trained. He's trained to Kick your head off, buddy.

[Donut Operator]

And this was. This was still when there was no, like, weight classes. Oh, yeah.

[Don Fry]

Pride. There's no going in there. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Wild man.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So have you ever seen the highlight of the Big Daddy Goodrich? The black guy? And he gets the one dude in a crucifix and elbows him in the.

[Donut Operator]

Head like he's wearing like a white ge.

[Unnamed Host 1]

That was round one of the tournament. Don Fry caught it, fought him in the second round.

[Don Fry]

No, third. Third.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Sorry. You fought him that night?

[Don Fry]

Finals. Yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So, like, you got to see him do that to somebody and then you went in the cage with him.

[Don Fry]

No, I missed that. I'm glad I missed that. I probably packed my year left.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hey, you. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

If you guys have never seen that one, that's crazy. I forgot about that because you can see what. What's the big black dude's name?

[Don Fry]

Gary Goodrich.

[Donut Operator]

He really. He's just like.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I forgot.

[Donut Operator]

He realizes, hey, I can just elbow this guy and just goes to town.

[Unnamed Host 1]

On like, that is 20 times.

[Don Fry]

Oh, Gary's strong, man. Just like a horse, you know, I'm getting hit by that guy in the temple of his elbow.

[Eli Double Tap]

How do you like my face to elbow style?

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Instantly I was like, oh, that guy's gone.

[Don Fry]

Oh, Gary's. Gary's a monster. I'll tell you.

[Unnamed Host 1]

It's so crazy, though, that when you were doing this fighting three times a night, Gary had a legendary highlight reel. Goes into another round the same night, and then you end up beating him.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

And so it's like, I don't know, it's just weird. You could have legendary highlight reel. I imagine that feels great to do. And then you still end up losing at the end of the night.

[Don Fry]

So it's like, still want the W, you know?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

What'd you beat him with?

[Don Fry]

He tapped. He. He was worn out. He's pretty much worn out because it was, you know, it was down in Puerto Rico. So you're talking 100 humidity, and you're talking about 150 degrees underneath those lights, you know?

[Donut Operator]

So, dude, you're finally sauna.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

They didn't have ac.

[Don Fry]

Oh, hell no.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Heard of Puerto Rico? Didn't you hear?

[Don Fry]

Hell no.

[Donut Operator]

How much did you weigh at that time?

[Don Fry]

I weighed 200 pounds at that time. I said it was 205. I was only 200.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Gary was quite a bit bigger than.

[Don Fry]

You at the time.

[Unnamed Host 1]

He's probably closer to. Yeah, 250. 260.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Jesus Christ.

[Don Fry]

Big old boy.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Big size advantage when you watch him fight.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

You get to see the discrepancy in those weights and you're like, oh, God, that's terrifying.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, in a sauna?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, in a sauna.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I mean, it probably worked in his favor at that point though.

[Eli Double Tap]

Bigger.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Dude wears out. Especially if he's fighting three times a night.

[Don Fry]

So. Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

Does it smell like you? Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Do you feel that? Cooling technology.

[Donut Operator]

It's definitely not a hot pillow.

[Brandon Herrera]

I gotta get out of here.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Give me my pillow. I'm the one that has to sleep here. You guys have your own houses and your own pillows. Quit touching it.

[Brandon Herrera]

All right, real question. Can the gang do a pillow fight?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Not with these. They're heavy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Slow motion pillow fight.

[Unnamed Host 1]

No, they're heavy. It'll hurt.

[Brandon Herrera]

Are they really?

[Unnamed Host 1]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, that would actually.

[Brandon Herrera]

That actually I don't think I'd want to get smacked with that.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I'm swinging it hard. Okay.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Unnamed Host 1]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Unnamed Host 1]

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[Don Fry]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Which fight was it in all of that where you're like me. I have another fight to do after this one. Which was the biggest?

[Don Fry]

Like probably after the second fight. God. I got one more. One more and I'm done, you know, for the night.

[Unnamed Host 1]

One more before I can clock out for the month.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, basically we were fighting every couple of months back then, you know, that was February. Next fight was in May, and then the next fight was early July and the next fight was September and then December.

[Eli Double Tap]

And each one of those is how many Fights per tournament. If you do, like, the best you can chance.

[Don Fry]

Three. Yeah. Three fights. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

So no matter what, every three months, you're fighting three fights.

[Donut Operator]

I'm. I'm curious also. What was your recovery process like after one of those hardcore fights?

[Don Fry]

Oh, man, it was tough. You know, drink a lot of water and hope, you know, absorb it.

[Donut Operator]

Just laying in bed, like, watching TV and drinking water.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Nothing fixes a broken home.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It took two weeks to recover. If you didn't get hurt.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hurt.

[Don Fry]

If he did not get hurt.

[Eli Double Tap]

Jesus.

[Donut Operator]

You just try to relax as much as possible.

[Don Fry]

No, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

The wife.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. It's like. This sounds really stupid, okay. And I don't mean to demean you, but it's like, come back from war, you know, you gotta de. Escalate everything. Or coming out of prison, you know, something like that. You know, equate it to that because, you know, all your time, when. The training, you know, you train 24 hours a day, eat, sleep, you know, train. Everything is calculated for, you know, six weeks, six, eight weeks, you know, and then boom, you hit it. And then. And then, boom, it's all gone. It's over.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's super interesting. I never thought about that. It is. Hey, I'm focusing for the sole purpose. Your entire. You're hyper fixated, hyper focused on that event for those three fights. Your elevated testosterone. Everything's elevated, and then it's all right.

[Don Fry]

It's gone.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then empty.

[Don Fry]

You're like, okay. What?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, that would be a weird.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Coming off of that.

[Don Fry]

Coming out.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Coming out of prison or coming, you.

[Eli Double Tap]

Know, coming back from military. Exactly.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. TDY or something like that. Yeah. And you just, you're sitting there going, you know, now what? You know, you know what? Where am I doing? Where am I at then? And then just getting reinstalled into society because you, you know, you remove yourself from society when you're training for six or eight weeks, you know, because every. Everything is just. Just about the fight game, you know, I mean, you watch tv. We were just watching fights, you know, I mean, that's your downtime is watching fights. And otherwise, you know, you're. You're. You're jogging, you're hitting the bag, you're lifting weights, you know, you're wrestling, you're sparring, you know, other than that, you know, or you're, you know, that's. That's the only release.

[Brandon Herrera]

Let's just lift weights.

[Don Fry]

Oh, come on, sweetheart. Dummy, you're a girl.

[Brandon Herrera]

I had to throw the Blazing Saddles reference Out there. Let's play chess.

[Don Fry]

Let's play chess. Well, brother, you're.

[Donut Operator]

You're not.

[Unnamed Host 1]

He's got that look in his eye like all the horses have been shoed. Oh, no.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon, we're so sorry. Feed him, Dawn. We just push Brandon down.

[Don Fry]

Dawn.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hungry?

[Don Fry]

That's.

[Donut Operator]

I'm just saying. But like, I wanted to ask you also, like, what do you. What do you do to relax these days? You a hunter? Like, you still playing around with horses?

[Don Fry]

I haven't hunted in a decade because my back. Okay, my back's still bad. And I'm too unlay, undisciplined and too lazy to go to the gym and, you know, get it. Get it fixed and too cheap to go to the chiropractor. A chiropractor can't do anything for me because, you know, I got this much. My back issues, you know, 11 levels, you know, so can't. Can't do anything.

[Donut Operator]

What's your relaxed time then, man? What do you do?

[Don Fry]

I got an English bulldog named Quinn.

[Donut Operator]

Just chill.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, me and Quinn and I. Excuse me. Hang out and. And fart on each other, you know, And. And then my girlfriend Lisa, she's got a animal rescue, so we go over there and I shovel a lot of goat shit, you know, and water. Water goats and horses all day long.

[Eli Double Tap]

Nice, man. Dude. What? Going back to just that mindset when you're coming out of a fight camp after the fight, is it. Are you hit with depression ever?

[Don Fry]

Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah. That's why it's, like, looking at you and how you talk about exact same feeling of. Of man. Okay. You actually go through each stage of depression. I don't have a mission. What am I? Am I worth anything? And that's after you came out, like, winning. And you still have. That mindset's wild, but also shows how that can affect you. Like, no mission. No. You're like.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's that singular focus that you had, right. This much time, and now it's gone.

[Don Fry]

Absolutely.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The other thing I'm curious about is because, like, you knew you were going to do it all over again in three months.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So, I mean, what's your motivation? Be like, well, I don't want to start anything else. Knew because I got to go through all this again in three months. So you're just kind of sitting there twiddling your thumbs like. You know what I mean? Like, imagine if you went on a deployment and you had two months off before you had to go into pre mob again.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's what you're like. And then afterwards, you're also trying to. How do I scale past this? I won, but what's the next step?

[Don Fry]

Right, right. Well, I mean, for, like I said, for two weeks, you're, you're in depression, you know, because it's like having the, have the rug pulled out from underneath them.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

You know, everything you, everything you were or are was taken away from you, you know, even though, even if you won or lose. And then you, like you said, you had to start all over again, you know, and you look forward, you look, you look forward to that next assignment.

[Eli Double Tap]

You know, I bet, like, that's that motor. I guarantee that's why you killed it even harder, like, coming right back into it. Did you train harder? Oh, yeah, because of it.

[Don Fry]

When Coleman. When Coleman beat the hell out of me, you know, I just, I was obsessed with that fight. I watched it every day. I watched it every day for probably three, two or three years, you know, until I finally let it go, you.

[Eli Double Tap]

Know, and that was hard.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, it was. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Because you go back and you're like, I made this mistake here. It's that, what if I did this?

[Don Fry]

Well, I woke up sick that day. I, I, I jinxed. Yeah. I. The night before, I told Art Davies, you know, he wanted me to fight Gary first round. I said, you know, I just fought him, you know, three months ago, you know, in the finals. So give me somebody else. Give me somebody easier. He, he needs me on the other side or something. And, and so I says, you know, I'm not gonna fight him. He says, well, we'll see about that. And I said, well, you know, I'm not feeling good. I don't know. I don't feel good. I may have to pull out, you.

[Brandon Herrera]

Know, an amateur over here.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

HR Break his kneecaps.

[Don Fry]

Give me the phone.

[Eli Double Tap]

Nick got in trouble. Don has his phone. Talking the teacher after.

[Brandon Herrera]

I know, bff whack his pee pee.

[Don Fry]

Give me that phone. No.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Don's going to make my mom come here and get it for me, guaranteed. So what was your, what were your training camps like when. Back when you were doing? Cuz like now it's, you got the UFC Performance Center. They, These guys aren't eating a single grain of a grain of rice that isn't planned by a dietitian. It's all super scientific, and they've got chiropractors and medical professionals on staff.

[Don Fry]

It's all on your own, you know.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So you're just out there doing Rocky in the barn.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Ready to Beat the out of people.

[Don Fry]

Well, that's why I had my heavy bag without in the barn, you know. And then I'd go running, go running through the hills, you know. I'm lucky. Got a real, real nice place, a couple acres right at the base of the mountains. So go running through the desert in the mountains and then go down to the weight room. And I had, I had a bunch of good guys. Sam Sotello, he's a, he was a, from Marine family. Ritz Moreno, he was an ex Marine. Rainy Martinez, he was a former sniper in the SEALs. You know, Steve Owen was my, was the coach, you know, he was a judo sensei and he just, he was a stud. He's like a seventh degree black belt, you know. Yeah, he's just a stud you're just.

[Donut Operator]

Hanging out with hard all day long. Yeah, that's awesome, man.

[Don Fry]

And so, you know, they were always there for me, you know, anytime, anytime I had them, they showed up at 2 o' clock in the morning for me one time, you know.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it's a good group of boys.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Damn.

[Brandon Herrera]

Back when you were still training for, for the fights back in the day, would you still drink?

[Don Fry]

Oh, you bet your ass. I needed calories. I cut calories.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's impossible to find calories elsewhere.

[Brandon Herrera]

I kind of figured that might be the answer.

[Unnamed Host 1]

There's a pork chop in every can.

[Don Fry]

Okay. Loaf of bread. The guy said. Yeah, legal over bread.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I know, it's.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh God, I'm trying to, I'm blanking on his name. Golf.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, Daly.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, John Daly. The John Daly of fighting.

[Donut Operator]

Holy. He is the John Daly fighting.

[Don Fry]

Oh, we should. I bet I ate about 8, 000 calories a day, you know, when I was training, because I mean, it's 24 hour job, you know. But when my kids were born, you know, I, I could be in town, you know, phase one workout. And it would take 45 minutes get to my house, you know, and then 45 minutes or an hour to get to the next spot, you know, from the house. Whereas it would only be like 20 minutes from where I was at, you know, I would go home just to see my kids for 10, 15 minutes, you know, I'd spend 45 minutes on the road there to get there for 15 minutes and 45 minutes, you know, just, just to see my kids, you know, while they were awake, you know, because that was, I was gone that much raining.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't think a lot of people realize the dedication to be at that level, especially when it's a New sport. Brand new sport.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then you're.

[Don Fry]

What was.

[Eli Double Tap]

How'd that first call from Pride UFC go about what was the first offer like, hey, do you want to do.

[Don Fry]

This for the ufc? Yeah. Like I said, I got hold of Dan Severn, the beast severed. Damn. The B7. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's another OG.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's great. And he got me a few fights across the country. Still waiting on the paycheck from him, you know.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Damn.

[Eli Double Tap]

What the.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. So waiting on the paycheck.

[Brandon Herrera]

Say the Unsub podcast calls out Dan.

[Eli Double Tap]

Talk to hr.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, yeah, this is your complaint box.

[Donut Operator]

Do you want to support you another one?

[Don Fry]

Sure. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, yeah, Too easy.

[Don Fry]

Sure.

[Eli Double Tap]

Same stuff.

[Don Fry]

Yes, sir, please. And, you know, Dan was getting ready for the first ultimate ultimate, you know, because he had won. He had placed second in number four and won number five, and then lost in a super fight against Shamrock in number six.

[Brandon Herrera]

Or.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, number six.

[Eli Double Tap]

And.

[Don Fry]

So he gave me for ultimate, first Ultimate Ultimate. So I went up there on my days off from the fire department and trained with him, you know, and as this is chief throwing dummy, he was tossing me around, you know, I mean, thank you. You see, you get guys that would come in, they'd, oh, I want to help train you, you know, for the ufc. You know, they'd be there once and then they disappear. They never come back.

[Donut Operator]

And you were probably them up, right?

[Don Fry]

No, I mean.

[Brandon Herrera]

He was out of horses to shoot.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

So. So I was like. I said, I was just this chief throwing dummy. And. And so then we went to the. The first ultimate ultimate, and it was in Denver, and he introduced me to the. To the UFC people. And then sometime in January, they called me up and said, hey, you know, we got a fight February 8th. You want to do it? Yeah, you bit your ass. So, you know, we. We went to that fight in Puerto Rico. No, that's awesome.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then to see where it is now, I bet, is mind blowing.

[Don Fry]

Oh, it's crazy because they said at the arena there in Puerto Rico, they had those, you know, blue plastic tarps as wall separating, you know, the big. The big clothesline and the blue. And the blue tarp separating for your locker room, you know, and. And now they got everything. I mean, hell, we didn't even have scale. We didn't even weigh in. You know, they just took your word for your weight. What?

[Eli Double Tap]

The parabites.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Why? I mean, if there's no weight classes.

[Don Fry]

How much you weigh it? Okay.

[Donut Operator]

Maybe straight up modern day gladiators, dude.

[Don Fry]

Brandon.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon Cody, call him the one word win.

[Don Fry]

AK50.

[Brandon Herrera]

I sense the disturbance in the force.

[Unnamed Host 1]

What's up?

[Eli Double Tap]

How do you like those Turtle beach noise canceling headphones? They're the Stealth 700.

[Brandon Herrera]

They're fantastic. The noise canceling is so good. All I hear is tinnitus.

[Eli Double Tap]

Ah, God, these are comfortable.

[Brandon Herrera]

They're really comfy.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, those are dope.

[Brandon Herrera]

Turtle beach makes them range ear pro.

[Eli Double Tap]

You went genuinely Cody. Actually like put those on.

[Don Fry]

Oh, nice.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude, those are legit. Get comfortable Turtle Beach. What you doing over there, girl? You making some hot ass stuff?

[Donut Operator]

I like your Squishies 3D spatial audio to improve your gaming. That will work really good in Tarkov, hear people's footsteps.

[Eli Double Tap]

And in pubg.

[Brandon Herrera]

I can't wait to use a Turtle beach headset to listen for footsteps. And Tarkov running the new AK50 while I get still killed from a wood line. I can't see what Eli, there's question a global cabal that's working behind the scenes to control all media, banking, politicians. And that's why we should have never gone off the gold standard.

[Donut Operator]

Hey, hold on, hold on. 80 hour battery life.

[Eli Double Tap]

80 hour battery life.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Holy sh.

[Eli Double Tap]

There's a lot of switches. Can't stress enough how comfortable these are. And if you've been in a long gaming session, which I'm sure all of.

[Donut Operator]

Us have, unfortunately I wear adult diapers when I play World of Warcraft.

[Brandon Herrera]

You should be euthanized.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hair also controls headphones. Great. This game hard head to Turtle beach.

[Brandon Herrera]

And use code unsub for 10% off your entire order.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's 10% off your entire order. @turtlebeach.com with using code Unsub after your.

[Donut Operator]

Purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. Please support Unsub and tell them where you got them.

[Don Fry]

Tell them Unsub sends their regards.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The other part too is like now in the ufc, it's like they call. Call a UFC fighter. They're like, we want you to fight this person and they know who that person is. And there's guys that are like, no, I don't want to fight that guy.

[Don Fry]

Right.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I do want to fight that guy. Or if I'm going to fight that guy, I need this much money. And you're just over here like, sure, I'll fight three random dudes on February 8th.

[Brandon Herrera]

It did they. Was there really like a betting culture around fighting at the time?

[Don Fry]

Oh, I'm sure there was. I'm sure there was. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Because now the only reason I ask is because now, like everything's so stacked Stats heavy. It's like this guy's fighting at this weight. Here's his record, here's his reach, here's his. You know, everything. They've got all these stats, and people use that to, like, bet on fights. I didn't know how the. It would work back then.

[Don Fry]

I don't know either, because, you know, just. You just pick a name, I guess.

[Brandon Herrera]

That guy seems right.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, I like. I like the sound of his name. What the hell? He's a. He does seven letters.

[Donut Operator]

That guy might look tougher than the other guy.

[Don Fry]

We'll pick him, right?

[Eli Double Tap]

You were talking about, hey, I don't want to fight that guy out the gate. Let's put him at the end of it so if you guys meet, it makes a better title fight.

[Unnamed Host 1]

That was. Well, that was Big Daddy Goodrich, and he had beat him in the final on the previous show, so that he's.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, wi fi again.

[Don Fry]

First round.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You don't put both number one seeds in the first game in the tournament.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, right.

[Don Fry]

Number one. Number two. Yeah. You don't put them in there. Of the fight in the first round.

[Eli Double Tap]

What was the response to that? Like, oh, did they actually, like, oh, that does make sense. We'll put him down.

[Don Fry]

And then I got a phone call from the owner, Bob Meyerowitz, and he says, listen to me. I'm not gonna have no goddamn athlete tell me how to run my show. He said, I'm gonna change it just this one time, you know, but you still. You're like, yeah, don't ever expect it again, you know? But now, it was silly. We had fought in the finals, and they wanted us to go to the first round. It was. It was silly.

[Brandon Herrera]

He called you an athlete, like a slur.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Goddamn athlete.

[Don Fry]

Well, he is from Manhattan.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Holy.

[Eli Double Tap]

What was. In your entire career, what was the hardest fight for you? Were you like this? Well, that's the one that. That sucked.

[Don Fry]

Oh, that'd be the Coleman fight. You know, first Coleman. Both Coleman fights, I lost, but the second fight, I. I really wasn't there. But the first Coleman fight, you know, I was. Like. I said, I woke up sick and just went downhill from there. And we even thought about pulling out, you know, after the second fight, man, I'm done. I got nothing left. And as you know. But then I looked at the alternates, and, man, if. If. If I had to pull it out and they just sent in one of them alternates, there wouldn't be in the UFC after that. That they. They'd have closed it down because they were. They were trying to shut it down as it was.

[Eli Double Tap]

No doubt.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, they would like in UFC 8. They spent all day in the courthouse, you know, trying to. Trying to keep it going because the governor was going to shut it. Puerto Rico was going to shut it down.

[Eli Double Tap]

Because there's a lot of, like, this is human cockfighting. It was. Everyone fighting it. Now it's on Main Street. People don't know. It was a huge.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Now it's going to be on the front lawn of the White House next year.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was just about to say, to go in that short a time from something that was trying to be outlawed in fucking Puerto Rico of all places.

[Don Fry]

Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

To something that the President of the United States was routinely attends.

[Don Fry]

Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's a crazy jump in that short of a time span.

[Don Fry]

Oh, I gotta.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Well, people don't realize, like, MMA is safer than boxing.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yes.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Like, yeah, you. You want to get knocked out once or you want to get knocked out, knocked out three times and have the opportunity to stand back up? Like, how many MMA fights would have kept going if somebody had a 10 count to stand back up and go back in again? You know what I mean? If you get knocked out once and then you get knocked out three more times back to back to back, it's so bad for you.

[Eli Double Tap]

Damn. And you're getting up some of those big fights. I mean, you look at, like, the Mickey, like, man, there's a handful of boxing fights when you watch it, is.

[Don Fry]

Two of the greats the greater one? Hey, there we go. Yeah, it was. That was. That was cool. That was so slick.

[Brandon Herrera]

You ever talk to him, like, actually get a chance to chat?

[Don Fry]

You know what? I choked. I mean, I really make it loud. Really lousy first impression. So I wasn't gonna screw it up, man. I just said, yes, sir, no, sir, no, sir, and get the hell out of there, you know, for my buddy. So I wanted to screw it up for him so he get his photo taken.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's kind of funny to see because to my understanding, Trump is a very big. Just is a big fan of athleticism, period. Like sports and things like that. He just follows it, like, what. Whether it's golf, mma, whatever. It's funny to see the people who show up around him who are very clearly, like, I won't name any names, but, like, pencil pushers that have no interest in watching gladiatorial combat, just watching the difference between how invested Trump is and, like, the people to his left and right, sometimes, depending on who he brings.

[Don Fry]

Right, Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's funny.

[Donut Operator]

I also think you make great first impressions. Don, we've already hired you to be the out of our interns.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hr it's official.

[Don Fry]

You'd hire anybody for that? Come on.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like the opening line was, fen could up a two car funeral.

[Don Fry]

That's on a good day.

[Eli Double Tap]

Bullied.

[Donut Operator]

You're going to die.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like what I do, dog.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So I asked you at breakfast, you got two daughters?

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

To which I immediately said, what was. What was it like the first time they brought a boy home and you got kicked out of the house?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, I was already kicked out of the house. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Who's your dad? No one. Tell me your dad's name. Why wouldn't you tell me your dad's name?

[Unnamed Host 1]

His nickname's the Predator.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, the last name of Fry should give some concern.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, man.

[Don Fry]

Oh, hell, mate.

[Eli Double Tap]

You got kicked out?

[Don Fry]

I got kicked out. Yeah. My youngest daughter, her. I guess they. They don't talk about it, you know, cuz my youngest daughter, her boyfriend didn't know anything about me, you know, for a while until. Until my friend says, do you know who her dad is and what he did? No. Sit down. Let me show you this dvd.

[Donut Operator]

Him walking into your house, seeing like a Trope trophy here and a ribbon there and just like.

[Don Fry]

I don't have. I don't have those.

[Donut Operator]

You don't?

[Don Fry]

No. No, they all disappeared in the divorce. A lot of my. A lot of my ships.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Half of.

[Don Fry]

I'd be happy.

[Brandon Herrera]

A rude awakening though, for. For that guy.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, I'm alive because he wills it to be so.

[Eli Double Tap]

I can't break up with her.

[Don Fry]

I tell you, if they can handle my. My daughters, then I'm nothing.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I'll tell you, imagine getting compared to your father in law like that your whole life. Yeah, you know, my dad would have done blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Eli Double Tap]

I bet my dad can beat your dad up. I know, I got it. I understand that you have no rebuttal other than that there was.

[Unnamed Host 1]

There's one. Oh, it's such a funny picture. It was like a normal dude's Instagram. He had like 50 followers. Normal guy's Instagram. Bigger, stockier, black dude. And he's obvious, very obviously at like a middle school wrestling tournament, sitting on the chair, on the mat, coaching his kids. And he just takes a selfie like this. And in the background is Daniel Cormier looking at the mat and he goes, man, Daniel Cormier is the other team's coach. What the am I supposed to do? Just like went viral.

[Don Fry]

You're screwed.

[Eli Double Tap]

What are Some of. Like, now with Modern MMA ufc, who are some of your. Your big favorite fighters to watch?

[Don Fry]

I like Pereira, you know, I like watching him. You know, I think he was sick the last fight. You know, I. I saw him the night before. I just thought he was in the zone, you know, because he was focused. He's quiet, you know, real stoic and, you know, just. But nicest guy in the world. Took pictures. He took pictures for over half an hour with anybody who wanted to take a picture with him, you know, on him. And he was on his way to go get dinner, but, you know.

[Eli Double Tap]

And the night before the fight.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah. And, you know, gave up all that time, but I. And I thought he was focused, gonna win, until I saw him walk out. When I saw him walking out, there's something wrong. This guy's off. You know, Then I wanted to change my. Wanted to change my opinion. You know, there was watching.

[Donut Operator]

Watching some of those skinnier guys like him with unlimited cardio fight. That's some of the best fights to watch, man.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

They have all that energy. Who else? Like any of the heavyweights or.

[Don Fry]

No. God dang it. Who's the guy from the. From Arizona. God dang it. I can't believe. I can't remember his name.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Which weight class?

[Don Fry]

Like a middleweight or lighter? Middle. Gaethje.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Justin Gaethje. Yeah. He's awesome.

[Don Fry]

He's great.

[Unnamed Host 1]

That's him. And Tony Ferguson is probably my favorite UFC fight of all time.

[Don Fry]

That's a great.

[Eli Double Tap]

Because it was.

[Unnamed Host 1]

It was the. The craziest part is when you go back and watch it now, because I got reused to normal UFC fights during COVID there was no audiences, so it just sounds different.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

When Justin Gagey fought Tony Ferguson, and it's just dead quiet because there's no audience. Justin Gagey hits like a truck, and he hit Tony Ferguson a lot. And it's just every strike sounds like a fucking car crash.

[Donut Operator]

Was that the COVID fight when there wasn't an audience?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

And, I mean, he beat the shit out of Tony Ferguson. It was bad, but like I said, you could hear the impact of every strike. Holy shit.

[Eli Double Tap]

It changed fighting and watching it for that brief time, because it did feel like you were watching a snuff film.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Something illegal. You're like, ah, there's no cheer. Oh, I.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Don't.

[Brandon Herrera]

You just say, this isn't a sporting event. This is just two grown men trying to kill each other.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Oh, you know, it's funny. It's like. Like 50 years ago, Terry Funk And Jerry Lawler had the empty arena match, you know, for wrestling. Empty arena match. And it was just. It was ridiculous, you know, because it was empty. And it's just those two doing their. Doing their normal wrestling, you know, with nobody there.

[Brandon Herrera]

And then totally different.

[Don Fry]

Different vibe. Yeah. And then boom, 50 years later, it actually happens in real life, you know.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm curious what you think about Sean Strickland.

[Don Fry]

He's funnier.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, you kind of figured that would be the answer.

[Don Fry]

He's funnier. I love him, man. I get a kick out of that, boy.

[Brandon Herrera]

He's probably my favorite fighter to follow on Twitter.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, Just the he says and the he says in interviews and whatnot. He's just. He's no filter.

[Don Fry]

None. None at all.

[Unnamed Host 1]

A bunch of guys from Dirka Durkistan wrestle everybody.

[Brandon Herrera]

The interview about like, oh, how do I say what in Chinese? Oh, how do I say, work harder, child? I'm starting my own merch line. I need to be able to say these things.

[Don Fry]

Oh, he's squirrely. Yeah, yeah, he's got it down, man. Some of the that comes out of his mouth is. Gets me, you know, He's. He's funnier. He's got a good stick going, you know, I really enjoy him. I think he's great and, you know, wishing most success.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, my God.

[Don Fry]

He's been keeping. Keep him around, you know.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hey, guys, you want to see something?

[Brandon Herrera]

Not again.

[Eli Double Tap]

Those are True Classics. Oh, you want to touch it, Brandon? Cody, you want to touch it?

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, Brandon, show you have a degree in hr, right?

[Unnamed Host 1]

That's right.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

Cody, what are you wearing? I'm wearing a True Classic shirt right now. It fits really well around the arms and the chest. It makes you look bigger than you are, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Cody actually look jacked right now.

[Donut Operator]

On a personal note, with my personal endorsement to True Classic, that's no. All the pants and the shirts that I wear, like, the undershirts always wear True Classic. The pants, always True Classic. They're stretchy. Beli's wearing True Classics right now.

[Brandon Herrera]

A lot of shirts that you get just off the shelf, like, aren't really cut. They're just generic unisex stuff. They're not really cut to look good. True Classic stuff is actually tailored to fit the male form, which is, you know, actually helpful if you want to not look like a slob.

[Eli Double Tap]

Peak male performance. But now imagine my dick, because that's where I'm wearing underwear.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

Now, we've been messing around with T shirts and been in that industry for years now. We can truly say that True Classic has some of the greatest material and greatest fitting that we've ever seen.

[Eli Double Tap]

So forget overpriced designer brands. Skip the cheap throwaway stuff. True Classic is built for comfort, built to last, and built to give back.

[Brandon Herrera]

You can even find them at Target or Costco, or you can go to truclassic.com unsub to drive for yourself.

[Unnamed Host 1]

If you want to level up your clothes for.

[Eli Double Tap]

For the summer or coming into the fall weather, head over to trueclassic.com unsub.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I was just gonna say, did we do the offenders with Don?

[Eli Double Tap]

We haven't done that in a while.

[Donut Operator]

We haven't done.

[Unnamed Host 1]

We have a. We have a recurring bit that we do with some of our bigger guests.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

We have a. A pretend superhero group. And we all have different superpowers. And you get to pick your own superpower, but we get to pick the offset. So, for example, Cody can fly, but in order to fly, he has to yell racial slurs the entire time.

[Brandon Herrera]

He's a frequent flyer.

[Eli Double Tap]

We get to.

[Donut Operator]

We like to joke with that one. It's like, what if I'm having to rescue a bunch of kids from a Section 8 housing development? Like it's on fire. I just gotta bring in the ladder. I'm just carrying a ladder at that point. I'm not flying today.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. My house. So it's 20 years ago, I. I was going to paint it adobe, but somewhere you got screwed up and ended up being orange. Like those, those numbers there, you know?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yep.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, that color. Orange. And so we, you know, you can find it. It. You can find it. You know, just look for the orange house.

[Donut Operator]

And.

[Don Fry]

A new neighbor moved in and put up. Put up a wall and then painted his wall the same color as my house. And I says, hell, I thought I getting Section 8 housing coming in. He looked at me like. Like I fell off the truck.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So what's your superpower gonna be?

[Donut Operator]

Oh, any superpower.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Any superpower you want.

[Don Fry]

Any superpower I want? Yes. Oh, man.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, I think the. The caveat is if somebody already has that power, they have to fight you to keep it.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah. Don gets any superpower he wants.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

There's. Gets changed.

[Don Fry]

God dang. It's superpower. That would be. Let's see. Either I could. What did I do?

[Unnamed Host 1]

No, I just have it a little closer to.

[Don Fry]

You screwed around. I screwed around and moved huh?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, you're good.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're good.

[Donut Operator]

I got a little too silly.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, perfect.

[Eli Double Tap]

I like everyone's relax. Perfect.

[Don Fry]

Everybody bouncing around here. Let's see. It would be either seeing through women's clothes or being able to have an erection as long as I want, anytime I want.

[Eli Double Tap]

We'll give you both. Don.

[Brandon Herrera]

Killer combo.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Your wife gets half the power in the divorce.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

That was awesome. You can kind of see through women's clothes.

[Don Fry]

She took. She took that. Believe me, she took that.

[Donut Operator]

That's a half. Chubby all the time.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just disappoint.

[Don Fry]

It's almost there, but it's not desires there. But he's gone.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's not you.

[Don Fry]

Not you. Honey, I swear it's me.

[Brandon Herrera]

I.

[Unnamed Host 1]

It's.

[Brandon Herrera]

I mean this in the best way possible. It was my ex wife.

[Don Fry]

You don't understand, honey. It's not you or me. It's her.

[Eli Double Tap]

The offenders are here. Don't go in the corner. Don't. Don't stop looking.

[Donut Operator]

Don.

[Don Fry]

Stop that.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, man. Bad day to be a super villain. It's Don Fry with half an erection.

[Brandon Herrera]

Superpowers don't even have anything to do with his ability to fight crime.

[Don Fry]

He'll just beat your ass.

[Eli Double Tap]

We just get him drunk. What are you gonna do?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Break my back? People have tried.

[Don Fry]

Broke my back, broke my neck. Yeah, okay, so got two. Two fake shoulders. That's been done. Fake hand. That's been done.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Bionic man at this point. Jesus, I love this.

[Brandon Herrera]

Except it's the ufc. We have to rebuild him.

[Unnamed Host 1]

What is.

[Donut Operator]

He's gonna be hornier.

[Brandon Herrera]

We can rebuild him. Stronger, faster, hornier.

[Don Fry]

See, when that does that, what are.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The conversations with the surgeons go? Like when they tell you, I don't know, you probably shouldn't fight anymore after the second time, breaking your neck and back or.

[Don Fry]

No, they never gave me that.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You know, they just gave up. Yeah, okay.

[Don Fry]

Give me that story.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'd like to think it was the same surgeon. And like, the fourth time you're in there, he's just smoking a cigarette.

[Don Fry]

Oh, it's you again.

[Donut Operator]

The Ben Affleck just.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

God damn it.

[Brandon Herrera]

God damn it. Listen here.

[Eli Double Tap]

We gotta talk this thing through.

[Don Fry]

I've been re.

[Donut Operator]

Watching Landman. Have you watched that one? Remember he smashes his pinky with a hammer.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And the surgeon comes in. He's like, doctor, I don't want this son of a. Anymore. And he pulls a pocket knife out. I imagine that's you in there.

[Don Fry]

Like, I'm fine.

[Donut Operator]

Don't worry about it.

[Eli Double Tap]

I need to Watch this show.

[Donut Operator]

Sheridan can't keep getting away with this.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's doing too good of stuff.

[Donut Operator]

Doing too good.

[Don Fry]

He's amazing. The he comes up with, bro.

[Donut Operator]

Sicario.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah. That's a great Show.

[Brandon Herrera]

Sicario. Yellowstone. 1883, 1923.

[Eli Double Tap]

Heller.

[Brandon Herrera]

High water.

[Donut Operator]

Wind River.

[Brandon Herrera]

Wind River. Landman. Tulsa, King. Like, the guy's everywhere. It's insane.

[Donut Operator]

Can't keep getting away with this.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Taking it as like a personal.

[Don Fry]

He bought that four. That four sixes ran.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Dude, is that great. And then. Great.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, and then he did the best thing ever. He leases the ranch out to his show that he owns.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah. He's brilliant.

[Donut Operator]

Tax man.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Making a good turn to change.

[Don Fry]

Oh, yeah. Write a show and have it. Have, Have. Have them pay for it. You know, crime, you guys. Brilliant.

[Brandon Herrera]

And the chunk of change you needed to have to buy the four sixes in the first place.

[Don Fry]

Dear God.

[Donut Operator]

Which is wild, too. He didn't. He didn't start off till he was like, early, early 40s. He had some small roles in Hollywood here and there. And then he just came out of nowhere riding all these shows we just talked about.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it happens. You get those later starts in life. And then it's just like.

[Brandon Herrera]

I think.

[Donut Operator]

I think he just witnessed Hollywood and he witnessed everything around him for years. And then he poured all his. Yeah, he's just tired of it. And then poured his. His time and his. His knowledge into it.

[Don Fry]

Right? Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's crushing it, to say the least.

[Donut Operator]

You can't keep getting away with this, Taylor Sheridan.

[Unnamed Host 1]

But please do.

[Don Fry]

But if you do. If you do. I need a roll.

[Eli Double Tap]

We would all just love to die on one.

[Donut Operator]

Exactly, man. That's what I've been saying. Like, all of us just died.

[Don Fry]

So I can buy another horse.

[Donut Operator]

Can I be random henchmen?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Don's just paid in horses. I'll take two. Let me take the one from the show. Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Hell, yeah. You've seen them horses. That bald face he's at on that show on Yellowstone. This is a beautiful horse.

[Unnamed Host 1]

God damn it. I want Don Frying Sheridan show.

[Donut Operator]

I love. I love how you randomly writes himself into too. Like hell or high water. It's like the detectives are going out, they're trying to find the bank robber and. And Sheridan just pulls up on his horse and he's like, yeah, just passing through. He just writes himself in there randomly.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's like he's like the Tarantino of westerns. He's just like, I need somebody to be the. The super cool guy for A role. Except Tarantino is just like, I need somebody to say the N word and lick feet.

[Donut Operator]

There needs to be a character to lick feet. Right now. It's me. I'm gonna play that character.

[Don Fry]

It has to be me.

[Eli Double Tap]

Listen, any volunteers?

[Don Fry]

Depends on the feet you're looking though.

[Brandon Herrera]

You know, do you see if that. That was like the acceptance speech for like, I don't know, it was the Oscars or something. Where was Brad Pit talking about once upon a time in Hollywood? I'd like to thank my co stars. Leonardo DiCaprio. Margot Robbie's feet. This actress's feet listed the feet.

[Eli Double Tap]

Tarantino has his. The vices.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Bruce Lee's family was like, I think they were pissed off about that movie. Movie.

[Don Fry]

Oh, I'm sure they were very.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Because I. I think the inspiration for that scene was because of Judo Gene labelle. Yeah, because I guess back in the day, you know Judo Jean, right? Yeah, Judo Jean. Just badass judo guy. I think he was like one of the first Americans to get a black belt in judo.

[Don Fry]

Oh, yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Just a complete badass.

[Don Fry]

He was a great.

[Unnamed Host 1]

He was. If you ever see the videos where Ronda Rousey's highlight and it shows an old man balding with red hair and a stock stop watch because she won in like seven seconds. That's Judo Gene LaBelle. He was one of her coaches.

[Don Fry]

He used to wear pinky.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Complete badass.

[Don Fry]

Just to piss people off and just to with him. His gi was pink.

[Eli Double Tap]

I like this guy even more.

[Unnamed Host 1]

There's a.

[Donut Operator]

There's a little story. Me and John used to wear pink geese.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, really?

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

I thought, I'm donut. I thought it was a funny thing to do.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, but you all would hold hands a skip too.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, that's true.

[Eli Double Tap]

That gang gets bullied. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Our gates were actually skirts, but it's fine.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's the fun. He wouldn't let the. The mimosa joke go with the whole like, you need a skirt.

[Don Fry]

How about a pink skirt?

[Unnamed Host 1]

But there's a story. I don't know how true it is, but allegedly there was some movie that Bruce Lee was doing and he was kind of being a dick to the stuntmen and extras, really hitting him harder than he needed to be. And they sent in Gene LaBelle, who was a stuntman at the time, and they sent Gene in to correct the behavior. Apparently Gene just picked him up over his head and walked him around until he settled down. He couldn't do about it.

[Donut Operator]

It's like with a toddler. Yeah, like, nah, nah. You're not gonna do this.

[Unnamed Host 1]

And I guess that supposedly that was the inspiration for that scene of a stunt man taking it to Bruce Lee.

[Don Fry]

He also did that. Steven Seagal. Steven Seagal cheap shots on onto the stuntman. So Judo. Judo. Gene choked him out.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, what?

[Don Fry]

Get your choked him out.

[Donut Operator]

Wait, is that when he. His pants.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah, that's when he.

[Don Fry]

His pants and then drew a mustache on his face. Because Gene. Gene would always put a mustache on people's faces after he choked them out.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, yeah.

[Don Fry]

Hold on, Pause.

[Eli Double Tap]

So Steven Seagal on. This guy. Steven's being a dick. This guy chokes him out.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Gene was probably 60, 70 years old at the time.

[Eli Double Tap]

And then he, a 67 year old judo master, choked Steven Seagal out and then drew a mustache on.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

He's awesome. He sounds cool as.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Do you, you guys remember that cool ass TV show Stevie. Steven Seagal was on where he pretended to be a cop.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, God.

[Don Fry]

I heard about it. I never saw it.

[Donut Operator]

Is that the one where he's sitting down in a chair fighting people?

[Unnamed Host 1]

I was just gonna bring that one up.

[Brandon Herrera]

That was a movie. That was a movie. There was for. At one point there was. He's like, I've been deputized by this department and I'm a. It's like a live PD kind of thing. And it's just.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's terrible.

[Brandon Herrera]

Steven Seagal pretending to be.

[Donut Operator]

It's actual, like live action.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's supposed to be real life.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, oh. This isn't a. No, it's not like, not a scripted show.

[Brandon Herrera]

Steven Seagal was like, deputize me so I can have a reality TV show.

[Eli Double Tap]

And it's wild.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You should, you should.

[Donut Operator]

I'm definitely gonna check into that now.

[Eli Double Tap]

Any of those Steven Seagal movies, if you haven't watched, he still does them and he still writes them. And they are. They're just all produced in Russia trash. And dear God, if you do just the recaps of them. So it's like 15 minutes long. Just comedy gold. I would love to see points.

[Brandon Herrera]

Donut operator reacts to Steven Seagal's cop show.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Remember, Remember when Steven Seagal when Anderson Silva knocked out Vitor Belfort with a front snap kick?

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

And then Steven Seagal's like, I'm the one that told Anderson Silva to do that in the back room. He took credit for Anderson Silva's like, amazing. It's like one of the best knockouts of all time is this front snap kick clean on the jaw and just drops Vitor Belfort and Steven Seagal's like. Yeah, I was the one that recommended he do that maneuver, actually.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Like, okay.

[Don Fry]

Anderson walked out with him a couple of times. You know, afterwards, it's like, oh, man, what are you doing?

[Donut Operator]

You know, maybe. Maybe everyone just loved him because we grew up on his movies.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, that's what it fell for. The.

[Donut Operator]

It put a lot of us on the, like, martial arts. Because I remember the one where he's.

[Don Fry]

On the ship.

[Brandon Herrera]

Famous.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Under siege on the submarine or whatever.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, the Navy SEAL that got reassigned or some. Yeah, I remember watching that and being like, I want to learn how to kill people.

[Unnamed Host 1]

That's why I'm joining the Navy. There was nothing better than, like.

[Brandon Herrera]

Did you join the Navy because. Because of Steven Seagal?

[Don Fry]

No, no. Said that a little too fast.

[Unnamed Host 1]

There's nothing better than. Back when Spike TV was still a thing. It was like Tuesday night at midnight, the Steven Seagal movie marathon. You fall asleep watching TV. You wake up, up, he's gained 80 pounds, and they're still playing.

[Donut Operator]

Like, I just. I. I remember Spike tv.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Just.

[Eli Double Tap]

And they go fly.

[Brandon Herrera]

They just die.

[Eli Double Tap]

Fat face. Like, guys flying away and dying, heads exploding.

[Brandon Herrera]

Spike TV is how I would hang out with my dad after work. Thank you.

[Donut Operator]

That's.

[Unnamed Host 1]

That.

[Donut Operator]

That's what I was thinking about, like, waking up Saturday, Sunday morning, Dad's cooking breakfast, and a Steven Seagal movie is on Spike TV in the morning.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yes. We're watching Independence Day.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Holy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Fugitive, all that.

[Eli Double Tap]

Were you big into martial art movies growing up? Or Westerns.

[Don Fry]

More Westerns. Yeah. Yeah. I was a John Wayne Eastwood fan. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

The OGs. What are your favorites?

[Don Fry]

Oh, True Grit. True Grit.

[Brandon Herrera]

The Truth.

[Don Fry]

The John Wayne True Grit. You know, I like the Jeff Bridges True Grit, too. It's. I think it's a. It's a better overall movie. But he. He still just couldn't match up to John Wayne, even though he played in the exact opposite. You know, where John Wayne's yelling and, you know, loud drunk, you know, obnoxious drunk. You know, he was just a drunk mumbling, you know, fool. And. And. But they both. They both did a great job, and. But, you know, you can't be. You can't beat the Duke. Can't beat the Duke. True. And then Clint Eastwood. You can't be Clint Eastwood.

[Eli Double Tap]

Good, bad, ugly.

[Donut Operator]

Well, Clint Eastwood, he wasn't even supposed to be an actor. Right? Wasn't he a stagehand or a grip or something?

[Don Fry]

No, that was. That was John Wayne.

[Donut Operator]

That was John Wayne that did that.

[Don Fry]

Wait, what he was a. He was a stagehand. And.

[Eli Double Tap]

And I didn't know this.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, he was a stage hand for John Ford. And then John Ford took a liking to him and put him in a couple of movies, you know, as extra. And then he got. He started doing this. The Three Musketeer, Mesquite Tears. Three Mesquite Tears. You know, and then he started doing a bunch of other other small movies. And finally John Ford got him the Stagecoach. Oh, yeah.

[Donut Operator]

I could have sworn Eastwood was like that too, though. I didn't know John Wayne was like that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Harley Ermey was one from Full Metal Jacket, his iconic role in Full Metal Jacket where apparently there was some other actor that was supposed to do the drill sergeant role.

[Don Fry]

And just.

[Brandon Herrera]

He's rly. Ermey was like the guy who's teaching him how to be a drill sergeant. And finally he's just like, yeah, you come here. Yeah, you'd be this guy.

[Don Fry]

Well, he. He schemed too. He. He schemed to really steal a lot. Still.

[Brandon Herrera]

No, I didn't. I didn't know this part.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah, he. Because he was a bit part guy, you know, he was a helicopter pilot in Apocalypse now. And. But yeah, once. Once he. He was training, he was showing the actor how to. How to be the drill sergeant. But yeah, he is in the back of his mind the whole time to steal the part.

[Brandon Herrera]

Nice.

[Eli Double Tap]

And for a Stanley Kubrick movie dude to have Kubrick be like, I want you instead, instantly, hey, fame is going to fall. He also was a.

[Don Fry]

He was amazing. He was amazing.

[Eli Double Tap]

He made them feel like a piece of.

[Don Fry]

They've got an action figure. Early Emery action figure. You know, the sergeant. You know, I gotta get one. Gotta find one.

[Eli Double Tap]

Does it yell racial slurs? I don't hate. They're cool, man. The TV censor version is crazy.

[Donut Operator]

It's.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's funny though, because my. My grandfather on my mother's side was a Korean War vet.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And so he. But he had a stroke later in life. And so, like, growing up around him, like, he. He couldn't really speak and, you know, he's wheelchair bound. Whole left side of his body didn't really work that well, but we would bond on. All he wanted to do all day was watch John Wayne movies.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And so that's just all. All he did all day is he had a. He had a massive collection of John Wayne movies. And that was. That was just his thing.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. My grandfather on my dad's side, he. He served in Europe in World War II and then when. When the Germans surrendered, they sent him over to Japan, you know? And then my uncle, my dad's brother, he was a marine in Korea, and then a Green Beret in Vietnam, and my dad was air commando in Vietnam, and I dropped the ball, you know.

[Eli Double Tap]

You were the smart one. Yeah, that's what I always.

[Don Fry]

My 40th year and my 40th birthday, my dad puts his arm around, says, you know, they raised the. The enlistment age, son.

[Brandon Herrera]

After all the shit you've done in life.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. I'm thinking, oh, my back hurts so bad. I would love to. But my back, because, you know, it was broke, you know, I didn't know it.

[Brandon Herrera]

You could have just showed up to any enlistment office ever and just shown your. Your surgical history, and they're like, no.

[Don Fry]

I. I don't know. I. You know what? Because I didn't think I was ever man enough to be a marine. I wanted to be a marine, but they were.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So you. You chose professional, modern gladiators or instead.

[Eli Double Tap]

I know.

[Don Fry]

I wanted to be a marine or a Green Beret, you know, So I.

[Brandon Herrera]

Instead decided, because I'm not man enough to do that, to beat up professional fighters for a living.

[Don Fry]

Easy. Yeah. Easy way. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

That's not the easy way.

[Don Fry]

What does it mean? You know? Then found out women could be Marines. That broke my heart. I. Oh, man.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Damn it. I could have made it.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. I could have been number two, at least.

[Donut Operator]

You could have been a cop.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Couldn't even do that. I had to be a fireman.

[Donut Operator]

That's a smart way, man. That's what I've been telling my son recently.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Because he's 16. He's gonna head off to college in a couple years. I've been telling him, why don't you just be a firefighter?

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And while you're at the station not doing the firefighter EMT thing, you just.

[Don Fry]

You go to school, then you take your classes. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Take your classes, work out, Just get jacked.

[Brandon Herrera]

Be a firefighter somewhere nice.

[Donut Operator]

That's what I was saying. To be a firefighter on, like, a coastal town, like a beach, like a nice beach town, so there's, like, college girls just rotating out all the time and work out and just go to school, make a paycheck. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me, man.

[Don Fry]

Oh, it's. It's a good job. It's a great job. Just the DEI got in real way and screwed up everything.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Jeez.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wrenching a couple things.

[Brandon Herrera]

Luckily, that only happened with firefighters oh.

[Unnamed Host 1]

God, I forgot about that.

[Don Fry]

I mean, just see that, that, that, that, that moose in la. He says, well, if I have to pull a man out of the fire, yeah, it's his fault.

[Donut Operator]

It's his fault for being in the fire.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Yeah. Way to go, sweetheart. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Have you seen that moose?

[Brandon Herrera]

That's probably the hardest left hook you've thrown in a while, that moose.

[Don Fry]

Moose. I didn't see bull moose. I held it back. Held the range back.

[Eli Double Tap]

How has this, this new wave of social media and being involved in. Is it, is it wild? Especially now, like you're older in life? Is it like. What the is going on?

[Don Fry]

Oh, yeah, I been here. I talk more in one hour or two hours. You know, we've been together at four hours now, and so I talk more of these four hours than I do in a week when I'm at home, you know, because it's my. Myself, my bulldog, you know.

[Donut Operator]

At least.

[Don Fry]

We don't fart on each other.

[Unnamed Host 1]

We might have to cut this part, but that. The woman that you brought up a second ago, the fire chief that said if a man's in a fire, he shouldn't have got there in the first place. She's dead now.

[Don Fry]

Oh, yeah? What happened?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Her wife stabbed her to death in a domestic violence incident.

[Don Fry]

What?

[Brandon Herrera]

Could you give me any relevant details about this person's life?

[Unnamed Host 1]

You're kidding me, are you What? I'm dead serious.

[Don Fry]

I'm dead serious.

[Unnamed Host 1]

California Fire Captain Rebecca Ramody, 45, was stabbed by. To death by her wife Yolanda, also known as Yolanda Maroti, 53, on February 17, 19 or 2025.

[Donut Operator]

You know what?

[Brandon Herrera]

But she shouldn't have been put in that situation. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation.

[Don Fry]

Did you. Have you seen the divorce.

[Eli Double Tap]

What the.

[Brandon Herrera]

I say we keep that in.

[Don Fry]

Have you seen the divorce rates? You know, every man of man versus and woman divorces. 50% gay.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Gay men is like 30.

[Don Fry]

Gay men's like 30. And the gay women is like 75. 80. Yeah. Yes.

[Donut Operator]

Yes. The highest domestic violence rates in this country are between two women. Two women part like women partners. Highest in the country.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. How many times did you have to respond to one of those as a cop?

[Donut Operator]

Good lord. I told you about. I think I've told you guys about the. The first, like the first domestic violence I ever went to was two dudes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Which one was it, the poppers or which one was this?

[Donut Operator]

I pull up and this is like one of my first nights on the streets by myself. I'm fresh out of fto. Like, I've got my own police car. I'm feeling cool, man. I'm feeling cool as shit. And I pull up and there's this dude, he's standing there and he's covered from head to toe in blood. He had some scalp wounds and you know those bleed like motherfuckers. So he's covered in blood. And I go up and I'm like, hey, what's happening? He's like, well, me. Me and my partner got into a fight and here's my id. And he like, he knows the whole drill because we had to respond out there. Like, apparently other officers had to have to respond out there a bunch of Times. And the IDs covered in blood too. He says, I just want you to know I'm HIV positive.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, I was just making that joke as you.

[Donut Operator]

No, no, that's the first thing he said. He's like, here's my id. I just want you to know I'm hiv, HIV positive. And I'm just standing there as a fresh officer. I thought I was responding to like, help some crime or something. And I'm like, fuck.

[Eli Double Tap]

Day one.

[Don Fry]

Day one.

[Donut Operator]

Day one, dude.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. It's like, oh, there we go.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's a problem solver right there.

[Donut Operator]

I think, I think like the majority of domestic disputes where there was blood taken from someone else, where they had a knife or they beat the absolute fuck out of each other, there was always same sex couples.

[Brandon Herrera]

They also, like, the amount of like, that was one thing. I don't know if bleep this.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay.

[Brandon Herrera]

Talking about his time on. I think it was state police.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, state police.

[Brandon Herrera]

Talking about how every. Like the two things I learned from policing, he had one like wholesome thing and the other one. Everyone has hep C. Yeah, everyone and their mother. Everyone you would ever respond to at any trailer park anything thing. Everyone has hep C. Yeah, that's a takeaway.

[Donut Operator]

That's why you see so many officers in videos. When someone spit. When someone spits on them, they just pop them in the mouth. Yeah, like, because everyone has hep C, right? It's biological assault. Disgusting, right? You're dealing with the lowest of the lowest. Yeah, it's nasty, man.

[Don Fry]

Especially for the people we want. On one, one time, you know, two guys that. That in there, he. He started his fight, you know, arrest that. Whoa. So down there, tiger.

[Donut Operator]

What if I didn't have to be a babysitter for grown men? Yeah, that would be really cool.

[Eli Double Tap]

Never gonna happen. You're like, nope, nope.

[Donut Operator]

I mean the, the thin blue line thing, it sounds kind of gay. Sometimes the thin blue line protects you. They're like, dude, cops put up with some ridiculous ass. And they really do keep like these people from people who just want to pay taxes, have a job, live their life.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, it's that, it's that thing where people don't understand how good they have it or what that other that job entails. It's like, oh, well, they have this skewed version of their world. A police have that. They think, oh, well, this cop just gets to deal with good people all the time. No one's evil. Police don't get that luxury.

[Don Fry]

No.

[Eli Double Tap]

Holy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Most people have never seen the real world.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, exactly.

[Don Fry]

That's the thing. They'll go more than a block away from their house, you know?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, exactly what you're saying at the first.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Have you seen that interview where the police chief, and I think it was Milwaukee, gets confronted by an interviewer because he was at like some press conference. Because it was like during blm, it's a couple years ago. And there was some, I'm assuming, black person was like shot by police and killed. And it was like a big deal. There was all the press and everything. And during the press conference, he was on his phone texting stuff and one of the reporters like called him out on it, being like, you don't even care. You've been on your phone the whole time. And he just goes, I've been on my phone because an 8 year old girl was shot in the face and we're trying to capture the suspect and I'm getting updates on her in the hospital. And then he just goes like, he goes, there's been 58 shootings or whatever it was this past month in Milwaukee. None of you can name a scene, single one of them, but you can name the three people my officers have shot and killed in the last five years. And just the whole room's just like dead quiet.

[Don Fry]

Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

He should have called that reporter up. Hey, come here. I want you to be in frame when this clip goes viral.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's wild.

[Donut Operator]

Some of the Florida. There's also clips of. I don't, I don't know if it was Grady Judd or someone, one of the Florida sheriffs that did the same thing. He's like, you're questioning me about how many times my officers shot someone. He was shooting at my officers.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

So you.

[Don Fry]

And they don't count though. You know, it's like you saw the one video where the woman was like, well, he killed. He killed my son. Hell, just because my son stole from me. How else my son's supposed to get money to go to school? Looking at books.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I saw that one.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's a wild one. It is a wild one.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The mom literally says, how else is he supposed to get money to buy clothes?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Justifying her son breaking into somebody's house.

[Brandon Herrera]

Everyone else seems to figure it out.

[Donut Operator]

The Chicago thing real quick. How many people do you think have been shot in Chicago this year? Just this year. 20, 2525-870028-31383 people.

[Don Fry]

Oh, shot.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, shot, sorry. 297 of those died, but 1,383. Guess how many close. Guess how many people in Chicago police have shot this year?

[Eli Double Tap]

3, 5, 7 0.

[Don Fry]

14.

[Donut Operator]

14. 1000. Almost 1400 people have been shot in Chicago this year. Police have shot 14 of them. No, police are the problem, though. We should define them. Right.

[Don Fry]

Name. We can name the 14 people. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Defund the police.

[Brandon Herrera]

Fat mayor, though, is throwing a fit over, you know, Trump's like, why is the murder capital of the world in the United States?

[Don Fry]

Right, right. It is.

[Eli Double Tap]

What I didn't realize was it Venezuela. They had the highest murder per Kappa, like by a El Salvador.

[Brandon Herrera]

At least it was for a while.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, one of those. But then they did.

[Brandon Herrera]

The Honduras was another one was.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was the one they cracked down. They were like, hey, President, come in.

[Unnamed Host 1]

They elected that young guy as president. Yeah, he keeps getting reelected and he like, Argentina, I think it might have been Argentina. He like fully militarized everything and arrested every. They were building new prisons and now it's like one of the safest countries, like by.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't love the idea of militarized police, but when you're talking about militarized police for the sake of, like, murderers, like, not like talking about speeding.

[Unnamed Host 1]

This was the crackdown on the cartels because the cartel was basically running the government at that point.

[Don Fry]

Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm like, these things are not equated.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Right.

[Eli Double Tap]

You had. I think it was 900 or a ridiculous number for every hundred thousand. It was a very, very high number. Like 900 to 1800 murders per 100,000. They dropped it down to like 20 or 40. Because those prisons, they put all the gangs together and then those guards did not around. They're not allowed to talk. They just. Someone went in and filmed it. And you just get to see them just staring.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Look at the wall.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, Forever. And that's it.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, is that the one where they show Them doing their daily exercise, and they just have to sit there. And this is all they get. Like, they got to do this probably. It's all the tattoo, like, tattoo faces, Guys.

[Eli Double Tap]

Thirteen people. And the other gangs and they have like, those, the gangs won't even fight inside that prison. Really terrified. They're like, hey, you just, you can't do anything. This is your life now. And they're just in blocks.

[Don Fry]

We'll just shoot them and let them. Let them lay there and bleed.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, oh, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

The original, the AM180.

[Don Fry]

Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

The prison riot gun.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Have you seen that? No, it's a.

[Don Fry]

No, you didn't show me that today.

[Donut Operator]

We didn't have the Ammon.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, it's up on my wall. It's at, it's at the house.

[Don Fry]

Oh, you gotta.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You guys gotta go see.

[Eli Double Tap]

You gotta see the machine gun collection.

[Unnamed Host 1]

How was it?

[Don Fry]

Oh, great. So great.

[Brandon Herrera]

We did a video on it. It's 22 LR.

[Don Fry]

No.

[Brandon Herrera]

Holds, like something stupid. It's like 277 rounds. I'm up top. And it was used for riot control in American prisons. I think it's originally an Austrian gun, I think. But yeah, it looks like a Thompson has that top pan Fed magazine like the Lewis like we were talking about earlier. 22 LR. And it was because it was not less than lethal, but it was less lethal.

[Don Fry]

Right, Right.

[Brandon Herrera]

But it's got an absurdly high fire rate. And you just spray a bunch of inmates. Dear Lord. You better have enough bandages.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, before we had like beanbag guns and shit like that. They were just using.22 bullets and that thing to spray people.

[Brandon Herrera]

But there are instances of American cops smoking dudes with that. Like, I think I want to. I am probably horribly misremembering this, but I think it was like out in my Miami or something like that. It was two cops that were in a shootout. Like, you know, two cars with drug dealers or whoever it was, and they fired out the back and just shot. Or either it was they were shooting the people they were pursuing or they were pursuing them. Something along those lines. They just sprayed a camaro with the AM180. Just sprayed it with 22 and ended up murking two dudes.

[Don Fry]

Oh, yeah, Jesus.

[Brandon Herrera]

That'll do it.

[Donut Operator]

That gun is nasty, man.

[Eli Double Tap]

The angry bees.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, well, I, I, I, I knew it from. I did a video back in the day. I was watching old SWAT training videos from like the late 70s, early 80s. And SWAT guys were running around with that thing.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, what is it?

[Donut Operator]

Fires like it's in like 2600 rounds a minute or something.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's not quite. It's like a thousand or something like that. Maybe higher.

[Donut Operator]

Crazy.

[Brandon Herrera]

But it's.

[Donut Operator]

And it's just. They call it what the swarm of angry bees because it's just 22 rounds. It's nasty. But SWAT guys used to carry that back in the early 80s.

[Don Fry]

Holy.

[Eli Double Tap]

What was your favorite gun? Going to his nice little museum he has going on.

[Don Fry]

Oh, hell.

[Brandon Herrera]

1200 rounds a minute.

[Donut Operator]

1200.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, I like the bar. I just for some reason I like.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The bar because it's you as a gun.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes. Yeah, it's like don't morphing into a bar.

[Don Fry]

It's a lot of American and powerful.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, I, I didn't know this until earlier today. You said you had carried a bar in that movie.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Was Public Enemies.

[Don Fry]

Public Enemies, Yeah. Or had no clue.

[Donut Operator]

Public Enemies.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. I was a john. Son of a what? I killed Johnny Depp. And then I didn't work for seven.

[Donut Operator]

Spoiler.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Didn't work for a decade.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, I was, I was watching Tombstone last night. Like I was on my, my whole thing where sometimes I'll just throw on like one of the Taylor Sheridan shows or like some like just a classic western type thing. And I almost watched that. I didn't know you were in that, dude.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, that's one of the one. The bro.

[Brandon Herrera]

All right. How the do you not know?

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm like, God dang it.

[Don Fry]

One of the Texas Rangers would come in and clean up. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Damn you handsome.

[Don Fry]

Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

How old were you when you first grew that mustache? Were you born with it?

[Eli Double Tap]

That was.

[Don Fry]

I think that was born first. I developed around it.

[Brandon Herrera]

That is a question he's probably been.

[Don Fry]

Asked a lot of times.

[Eli Double Tap]

Your mustache is eight pounds. They set it down and a baby grows into it.

[Don Fry]

Congratulations. Congratulations, you have a mustache.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Don over here gets pushed out. There's no crying. Pass me a beer. Congratulations, ma'.

[Don Fry]

Am.

[Unnamed Host 1]

It's a man.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's a man. Congratulations, it's a man. Goo goo gog Don.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Spank the doctor.

[Eli Double Tap]

Full sized. He's a full size 30 year old.

[Don Fry]

Man throwing like a monkey, you know.

[Donut Operator]

Doctor slaps his ass and punches the doctor back.

[Don Fry]

Oh, God.

[Unnamed Host 1]

What were you like as a teenager? Dear Lord.

[Don Fry]

I was a dick.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, that got me dad.

[Don Fry]

Care to elaborate?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Dad in the military for 20 years. What were you up to during that time?

[Don Fry]

Oh, let's see. I was wrestling and playing football. Wrestling and screwing my girlfriend. You know, so that was. That was pretty much it.

[Eli Double Tap]

Guessing not picked on much.

[Don Fry]

No, no, I wasn't. I wasn't a bully. I didn't pick on anybody either, you know, but couple of times I was an. Yeah. You know, but besides that, I'm minding my own business.

[Brandon Herrera]

You said your dad earlier when we were talking, he said your dad was a. Was a boxer. Yeah, amateur boxer, I think.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, amateur boxer.

[Brandon Herrera]

So he so got you interested in stuff like that. So at what age did you kind of start taking on fighting sports? Was it like during high school?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah. He. He was good enough to. He got offered a chance to turn pro, but he decided there's a better way to make a living than getting punched in the nose.

[Eli Double Tap]

Smart man.

[Don Fry]

He forgot to tell me that. You know.

[Brandon Herrera]

That was something funny we were talking about earlier. Like, did your dad ever see one of your fights?

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

His reaction to your first fight?

[Don Fry]

His reaction. My fighters. How come you drop your. Your hand, your jab when you bring it back?

[Eli Double Tap]

Correcting you?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, he was. You're supposed to solar jab. Bring right back. But apparently I would throw it and drop it. He was not happy. Was not happy about it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Did you win that fight?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, I won the fight.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

Okay, well, dad doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. It's still your dad.

[Eli Double Tap]

Did you have any, like, during your. Your peak, any of your sparring sessions where it was going extremely hard or sparring partner that you did not like? Sparring where you're like, oh, they, they swung.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, there's a couple of guys I didn't like. Yeah, yeah. But one time hit one kid in the liver and, oh, I dropped him and he screamed. He screamed on his way down, and when he hit, he couldn't make a noise. You know, he just laid there for about 20 minutes. We kind of grabbed him, pulled him off to the side. So we keep going.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, my God, go sit on the cockpit wall. I got more pimp men to beat up.

[Eli Double Tap]

Did you punch?

[Brandon Herrera]

Did you do that on purpose? You know, because you didn't like him?

[Don Fry]

No, it just.

[Brandon Herrera]

It was there.

[Don Fry]

Probably didn't like him at the time. He's probably being a bit of a. Yeah. So. Probably put a little bit too much into it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, happens.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, I know.

[Don Fry]

I would wear 20 ounce gloves when I was sparring.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Jesus Christ, you got a canned ham attached to your wrist. I don't want my liver to get hit with that thing.

[Eli Double Tap]

And it's still making it through defense.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Eli's been fighting with 20 ounce gloves lately.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, that's all I've been using for training is like 20 ounce for the last few months.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And when I put on 16 or 12 ounces, I'm like, oh, these are nice and light.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Holy.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, dude.

[Don Fry]

We were.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, you're wearing 12 round.

[Eli Double Tap]

No 16s for.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was gonna say you. I didn't know that we.

[Don Fry]

We fighting four ounce gloves, which you're like, oh, yeah, it's, you know, have no fingers and yeah, they're just small little pads. Yeah. So when you go from a 20 ounce to 4 ounce, you know, you can't block as much, you know, but you can hit it a lot harder.

[Brandon Herrera]

Do you block more a lot with your, like your, your forearms then?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah, you go higher. Yeah, especially when I'm on my back. I'm on my back. I'll. I can, you know, you can parry real easy, you know, because you obviously you can't. You don't have a chance to handy footwork and move out of the way. You know, you're, you're stuck in that position. So you gotta.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was the craziest thing to see being adopted by fighters. That's really working. I know you come from more of a wrestling background, so was that Brazilian jiu jitsu in the 90s, early 2000s, was that crazy to see being used at that level? Or what was the martial art for you? Were you like, what the is this?

[Don Fry]

No, because I did judo, you know.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Don Fry]

And jiu jitsu's from judo, you know, just a watered down, just ne waza, you know, groundwork, you know, other than that, it came from judo and so not. None of it surprised me, you know.

[Eli Double Tap]

See, that's the stuff I find like, super interesting because this is judo to. As you said, it is a watered down jiu jitsu stemmed from that.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

But seeing everything, oh, this dude's doing Muay Thai or that one guy that did the boxing glove.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Oh, he had one boxing glove.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. God damn it.

[Brandon Herrera]

The.

[Don Fry]

I, I know that guy back in.

[Unnamed Host 1]

The day, he had one. One rap.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, yeah. He's the funniest guy in the world and nicest guy in the world. Nicest guy.

[Donut Operator]

It's like MMA fights back when, back.

[Unnamed Host 1]

In ufc when you could do. You could wear shoes if you wanted.

[Donut Operator]

So he could grab with one hand and hit with the other.

[Unnamed Host 1]

He had one legit boxing glove and one hand.

[Don Fry]

He was a ranked middleweight, you know, and hell, you got to get him on here. The story they, they want, they were going to offer him like, 10% of the UFC, you know, for him, 10 or 20%, you know, he should have taken that.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, it's just like, they would have offered just to fight. It was just like Matt Damon with, like, the 10 of all of Avatar.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And he turned down the. The starring role, like that. Similar situation.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Because he. He was a. Ranked. He was a ranked middleweight fighter, you know.

[Unnamed Host 1]

In boxing.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, in boxing.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Okay.

[Don Fry]

And it would have brought legitimacy to the sport, you know.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, my God.

[Don Fry]

But he. He said. He said no. He took a couple hundred dollars or something. I don't know.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's what I guarantee. He got paid, like, maybe a grand max instead of the position. Because he's like, oh, I'm only making this much. No, I'll take the thousand dollars instead of this percent of a company. That's wild. That's what happened to the Facebook artist.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

He was like, oh, hey, do you want 60 grand or do you want some shares into Facebook? That shares with. Was $400 million. He made the right choice, obviously.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

He was. He was the guy painting their walls in the office or something. Yeah, yeah, the graffiti guy.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And it was like 60 grand and. Or shares of Facebook, which were nothing at that time. And he took that and then walked away with $400 million.

[Don Fry]

Damn.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. I mean, your buddy would have been.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Art would have been set for life. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Fuck. But he wore a glove to protect his striking hand. Right? I forget his.

[Don Fry]

No, I think it was his jab hand, wasn't it?

[Unnamed Host 1]

I think it was a jab.

[Don Fry]

No, the other one was taped up, but he had. He had the jab hand gloved up.

[Unnamed Host 1]

And wonder which hand he's going to try to finish me with.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. One glove Art, you know, Zimmerman, One glove Zimmerman.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Was there anybody that. In ufc, whether you fought him or you didn't, that you just did not get along with that was kind of a dick or.

[Don Fry]

Oh, I had my problem with Tank Abbott, you know, but I was just.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Gonna say, because I heard Tank Abbott was a huge dick. That's what I was thinking of in my head.

[Don Fry]

But he's changed a lot. You know, I worked with him here. Oh. About four or five months ago in Las Vegas. We did a signing at. @ wrestlemania, and he. He's changed a lot. He's. He's a completely different guy. Got a great wife, great daughter. You know, he's still off, you know, because he had a liver transplant. So he's. He's lost, like, about 150 pounds, you know, 200 pounds.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You guys know who Tank Abbott is?

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah, thanks.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Tank Abbott legitimately looks like my dad. Like same build and everything. Huge beer got and would just go anymore.

[Don Fry]

Not anymore.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Back when he was fighting, huge beer gun. He would go in there and just knock people out.

[Donut Operator]

He used to do like the street fight stuff too. Like street beef. Like. Like that, right? Wouldn't he. Wouldn't he just like.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I don't. I don't know about that. But I mean I know he.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're thinking of show. Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Show that full body picture to Cody or to Brandon.

[Donut Operator]

No, he's a white guy, right?

[Don Fry]

No, Tank, no.

[Unnamed Host 1]

No.

[Brandon Herrera]

Thanks.

[Eli Double Tap]

Way boy Tank is.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Something.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. I feel like he used to do like.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Like it wouldn't surprise me.

[Eli Double Tap]

He could have. I know.

[Donut Operator]

I'm thinking of OG like early day of the youth. Like early day YouTube he might have it.

[Eli Double Tap]

Were those like street fights or backyard bras? Because it was him. And I forget the black guy's name.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's exactly who I was.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was like, doesn't look like this.

[Don Fry]

Guy in the world, man. I met him a couple times. Nice as nicest guy. Completely opposite what you what, what he projects, you know, the image. But man, what a sweetheart. Very polite. You know.

[Unnamed Host 1]

One of the funniest post fight interviews ever.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

When he lost in the Ultimate Fighter to Roy Nelson. Roy Nelson also pale, pale white dude with humongous beer gut. Dana White described him as the ultimate underachiever, ungodly talented fighter, but was like eating Big Macs and the night before. And Roy Nelson was like an elite level grappler and striker. But his grappling was really good. So he took Kimbo down, put him in a crucifix from the top side. So his belly's just right on Kimbo's face for three, five rounds, whatever it was. And Kimbo slice afterwards, like he'd take me down and put me in that crucifix. And then I got the moon on my face. I can't move the moon. I don't know what you guys want me to do.

[Brandon Herrera]

Who's the guy right now? Derek.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Derek Lewis.

[Brandon Herrera]

Derek Lewis.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Black beast. Yeah, hilarious.

[Brandon Herrera]

You were talking about like best post fight interviews and like that. That's immediately who came to mind.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Derek Lewis.

[Donut Operator]

Why'd you take your pants off? My balls was hot.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, well, your guy, what was his name?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Roy Nelson.

[Eli Double Tap]

Roy Nelson was again his level of athleticism. And Dana White and everyone said is if this guy gave it a hundred, 100%, he would be unstoppable he was.

[Unnamed Host 1]

He knocked out.

[Eli Double Tap]

He lazy fighter.

[Unnamed Host 1]

He knocked out Brennan Schaub in the final for the ultimate Fighter. Like, out cold, knocked him out. He's not a big dude for the heavyweight class. He's like, he's my height, £260, with an enormous beer gut. Like, I'm pretty sure my arms and are, like, bigger than his. Like, he's not jacked. He looks like just some dude bellied up at a bar in the Midwest. He just goes in there and beats a. The out of people. Huge mullet. He knocked out Bigfoot Silva. He's got all kinds of crazy knockouts.

[Eli Double Tap]

All those in a fighter. You're saying the older, like, Tank, the older they get. A lot of them just. Look at Tyson, they just become softer. Like, oh, hey, I'm not as aggressive compared to that young age. Did you see?

[Unnamed Host 1]

I don't have to beat up grown men.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, exactly. I can tone it down in my head. I can chip. I don't have.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I got lazy, you know, I mean, I. I got addicted there. I didn't get addicted. I got dependent on the, on the pain pills, you know, after the neck and the back, you know.

[Unnamed Host 1]

And the neck and the back.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, and the neck and the back, you know, in the back. In the back. And, yeah, I got a little dependent on the. On the pills. And so the fights I lost, you know, I, I would take the pain pill before I went out there, which is stupid, you know, because I was like, man, that's. That's a long walk out there. Yeah, I better take a pill, you know.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You were going to fight another professional athlete and you were more concerned about how long the walk to the cage.

[Don Fry]

Wasn't too smart.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah, it sounds pretty badass to me.

[Donut Operator]

I don't know.

[Eli Double Tap]

Was that 50ft?

[Don Fry]

Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Maybe two. Two for the road.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Not worried about the fighting part. It's the walk there that gets me.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, taking extra for the road thing.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was, I was curious about was a lot of these fighters, like, we know, like, we. We talk to chalk and like, some of the stories that they have of, like, how crazy the parties got and stuff like that. Like early UFC days. You have any stories like that?

[Donut Operator]

No.

[Brandon Herrera]

That you'd be willing to tell?

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah, early UFC's statute of limitations.

[Don Fry]

I got two daughters now, so.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, speaking of, I want to ask you a question, too. My son, he's 16, he's been in jiu jitsu and boxing his entire life, like, since he was 5 years old. Do you have Any advice for, like, a young man?

[Don Fry]

Yeah, Getting high school wrestling. High school wrestling.

[Donut Operator]

Wrestling.

[Don Fry]

Wrestling's the toughest thing you'll ever do in your life, you know, most discipline, and it's. It's exact opposite of Jiu jitsu and. And judo, you know, or basically to break it down. Judo's more pulling, but wrestling's pushing, you know, to simplify it, you know, and. And then Jiu jitsu's, you know, you fall to your back or, you know, wrestling, you want to put the guy on the. On his back, and you want to stay off your back, you know, so. But the. The discipline involved, necessary to be a wrestler is the hardest thing you'll ever do.

[Brandon Herrera]

As soon as you started saying that, Nick was looking at me like I told you so.

[Unnamed Host 1]

It's true, dude. Wrestling's so hard because, like, I've been doing Jiu Jitsu forever. It's so much harder than Jiu jitsu because there's arm bar. There's 20 different types of arm bars. There's 50 different types of chokes. There's 50 different types of. There's so many different ways to end a Jiu Jitsu match, right? There's one way to end a wrestling match, and both in it know it. So it's not a matter of I. I can't trick you into a pin, I can't finesse my way into it. You know exactly where I'm trying to go, and I'm gonna have to force you to do it right? And so much harder than Jiu jitsu do.

[Donut Operator]

You know, the highest rate of young men who make it through Navy SEAL training are wrestlers from the South. Really? That's the highest rate of men that make it through that training.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I'm gonna call. I think it's wrestlers from the Midwest.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, I wonder why you might be biased.

[Eli Double Tap]

Checks. It is you. You both will be able to answer to this. Cody May. Like, when you're grappling somebody, you know, if they come from a wrestling background so fast, because they go harder and faster than anyone, you know, Especially coming from, like, bjj. You're like, okay, hey, I'm relaxed.

[Unnamed Host 1]

I can't.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude goes a hundred. Like, full throttle out the gate. You're like, oh, me? Dude, this guy's just. They're just dragging you across the floor. They don't know how to pit.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Like, I've been doing Jiu Jitsu so long, it doesn't. I don't even need to know before I can literally tell when a new student walks in by the way they walk in their posture as soon as they walk in the gym. Okay, yeah. Come in, free trial, fill out the waiver. Where'd you wrestle at? Oh, how'd you know I wrestled? I can tell.

[Don Fry]

Yeah, you're an athlete.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yeah. I can tell by the way you walk, the way you stand, your posture, all of it. Like, I can see him from a mile away.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's terrifying.

[Brandon Herrera]

Individuals with a wrestling background, particularly those from Southern states, are known to have a strong statistical presence in Navy SEAL training.

[Donut Operator]

It's almost like I went to buds and know this thing.

[Eli Double Tap]

I like nature. Like, damn it. Damn it. That's all I guess to say about Swiper.

[Brandon Herrera]

No swiping. Oh, man.

[Unnamed Host 1]

That makes sense. All the Midwestern guys are probably too busy going to the Olympics.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's like, I can't lyric.

[Don Fry]

They're in the air Force.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hell. Holy. Don, this has been a pleasure, my brother. Thank you so, so very much for coming out and hanging out with us.

[Don Fry]

Hey, you had a great time, man.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You've been after your amazing career in life. You're trying to do what we do for a living now, huh?

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Host 1]

You're trying to be a YouTuber.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Dan S. And I got Dan and Don's Toxic Masculinity. We haven't put one out for about six or eight months.

[Eli Double Tap]

So is that.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Is that on your main channel or is it its own channel?

[Don Fry]

It's separate channel.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So you've got Toxic Masculinity and you also have your own YouTube channel. Don Fry.

[Don Fry]

Yeah. Don Fry USA.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Yep. So go check him out. Subscribe to him. Some of your videos are hilarious. You're basically doing a. You're doing mean tweets now, where you're reading comments. Some of the comments are. I've seen a couple. Don Fry speaks fluent F350. My revolver sleeps with Don Fry under its pillow like that. It's pretty funny.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was saying earlier, like, I just. I find most of your just coming across my Instagram reels feed.

[Don Fry]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Where it's just. Just you saying just horrifically politically incorrect.

[Eli Double Tap]

To interviewers and instantly why we're like, we need him on the show this month.

[Brandon Herrera]

Seemed like he'd get along.

[Don Fry]

He's one of us instantly. He don't have all his teeth, obviously.

[Unnamed Host 1]

So, yeah, go check out Don's channels.

[Eli Double Tap]

Cody, you want to close this out?

[Unnamed Host 1]

My.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, he's getting your photo in.

[Donut Operator]

You guys are just, like, really handsome right now.

[Don Fry]

Oh, hell, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's Dawn. Don, what's your of channel? Joking.

[Don Fry]

Guys.

[Donut Operator]

Thank you for joining the Unsubscribe podcast. I joined today by Eli Double Tap, the fat electrician, Don Fry himself, Brandon aa, myself, donut operator. Are we doing after show?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, we'll do it.

[Donut Operator]

Check out the after show on Patreon in that case.

[Brandon Herrera]

You want another drink?

[Donut Operator]

Done.

[Don Fry]

Absolutely.

[Brandon Herrera]

All right.

[Eli Double Tap]

We're going to drink some more.

[Don Fry]

Absolutely.

[Unnamed Host 1]

Love you.

[Eli Double Tap]

Sa.