Police Detective Breaks Down The Buffalo Public Schools Investigation | Unsubscribe Podcast 256

Summary

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Unsubscribe Podcast #256: Police Detective Breaks Down The Buffalo Public Schools Investigation

Release Date: March 24, 2026
Hosts: Eli Doubletap, Brandon Herrera, Donut Operator, The Fat Electrician (Nick), Rich (Angry Cops)
Theme: A deep dive into the recently released investigative report on the Buffalo Public Schools, led by a former police detective and featuring a roundtable discussion on systemic failures, lack of accountability, and what’s next for local advocacy.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the fallout of the Buffalo Public Schools’ independent investigation into reports of severe mishandling of child abduction attempts, sexual assaults, and chronic failures by administrators and legal representatives to protect children or cooperate with law enforcement. The crew dissects key findings, shares insider perspectives (notably from Rich, a former SVU detective), and contemplates what real accountability looks like for school leadership and policymakers. The tone is irreverent, sometimes darkly comic, but always passionate and frustrated with the status quo.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Background & Investigative Report Release

• [02:21] The Buffalo Public Schools hired an independent law firm to investigate a series of serious allegations, including a mishandled child abduction attempt and deleted security footage.
• Rich recalls coming on the podcast distressed about Buffalo school corruption and being ridiculed, but the subsequent investigation vindicated most of his claims.
• The law firm’s investigation was intended to be an impartial review, but many findings were hampered by lack of cooperation from school officials and the DA’s office.

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2. The Abduction Case & Systemic Obstruction

• [06:21] The investigation centered on an attempted abduction of two children where security footage was "missing" or deleted and parents were not informed until months later—often not by the school, but via this very podcast.
• Example: “It literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the lawyers.” (A, [05:32])
• Deliberate noncompliance: School legal representatives, especially the principal in a related assault case, outright refused to honor subpoenas or cooperate with the District Attorney (DA).
  • Rich: “The school principal said, ‘I'm not going to reply to the subpoena, I will not come in...I did my own investigation.’” ([08:00])

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3. “Systemic Failures,” but No Accountability

• [14:00] The report repeatedly describes “systemic problems” in reporting policies and compliance, but says “no individual is responsible” — even the people who made/enforced the rules.
• Brandon: “Thank God, because it's everybody and not one specific person, then we can't hold anyone accountable.” ([14:22])
• Cosmetic recommendations are made, some of which are blacked out for “security reasons.”
• Frustration: Systemic blame allows everyone to evade discipline, and no meaningful accountability follows clear evidence of wrongdoing.
  • Nick: “The podcast was correct for like 90% of it. And then...the biggest allegation...the deleting of the footage, they had a...very complicated, elaborate excuse for how it was a failure of their systems and nobody's actual fault.” ([05:40])

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4. Handling of Security Footage and FERPA Abuse

• [34:39] The school’s excuse for incomplete or missing security footage: DA's request was “too vague,” so they provided only one camera angle, missing crucial evidence—including the involvement of a second child.
• Rich: “If the district attorney's office says, ‘Give me all the video,’…I would be like, I want every camera…from 10 minutes before this guy’s on our soil...That's all.” ([38:09])
• Deliberate Obfuscation: The school repeatedly invoked FERPA—a privacy law meant for student records—not to release information to law enforcement, even for victims of crimes.
  • Rich: “The Buffalo public school system is…literally, in cases of violence and assault...refusing to give...names of the victim children in this crime...which is a horrible representation of what FERPA is.” ([54:10])

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5. Misreporting/Underreporting Dangerous Incidents

• Calls for service (e.g., assaults, stabbings) are often coded as “school, other” to mask real events.
  • Rich: “That’s where they hide stuff." ([71:14])
• Teachers who raise concerns are retaliated against.
  • Nick: “He tried to get them in trouble...they retaliated...put him on leave for over a year.” ([77:20])

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6. Obstruction Confirmed in Writing, Excused in Findings

• The DA’s office directly accused Buffalo Schools’ legal team of “obstructing” investigations in official emails—but the investigating law firm dismissed this as “not legal obstruction,” just a term used informally ([45:00]).
  • Rich (quoting report): “The district attorney’s office...stating you, the legal representatives...are intentionally misrepresenting legal doctrine and obstructing investigations into the abduction of children. Full stop. That is a fact in the investigation.” ([48:04])
  • Rich: “How more clear could it be that this is...a fucking cover-up?” ([65:05])

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7. Calls for Community Action

• Voting & politics: The group discusses the power of PACs ("asshole punishment fund") to influence local DA/school board elections with billboard campaigns and public pressure ([19:42], [25:03]).
• Local activism: Organize parent-driven walkouts—“20% of the student body stays home, funding drops, the school is forced to respond” ([85:03]).
  • Nick: “If I was a parent at Buffalo Public Schools...I would organize school walkouts...they’re not getting paid.” ([83:59])
• Public advocacy: Push for fired board members, run for school board, FOIA all “school, other” dispatch calls and compare with actual incident reports ([73:36]).

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8. Notable Quotes & Moments

• [03:09] Rich: “I came on this podcast and wept like a bitch...told everybody how bad the Buffalo public schools were. The news ridiculed me...and then the podcast was correct.”
• [05:13] Donut: “It was crazy watching you react...and then just combing through it...nothing is going to happen. And then when you start really digging, you see all the problems.”
• [14:22] Brandon: “Thank God, because it's everybody and not one specific person, then we can't hold anyone accountable.”
• [31:37] Donut: “Imagine finding out that your kids almost got abducted from strangers on the—from us.”
• [45:39] Rich: “Page 37...the school’s legal team is obstructing. Quote, ‘obstructs investigation from the DA’s office’…[yet] we don't find it as obstruction…which makes zero sense.”
• [50:04] Rich: “I’m never going to send my kid to a city of Buffalo public school. Because they're so corrupt and horrible. It's disgusting.”
• [54:10] Rich: “FERPA...is very limited...it doesn't mean that if you go to a school and you stab a kid...they can't say, I can't give you that because it's ferpa.”
• [65:05] Nick: “When the professionals that are qualified to identify obstruction of the law use the word obstruction of the law...I don’t know that they mean obstruction of the law, bro.”
• [86:31] Donut: “Any other last pieces of advice, Mr. Richard, from what you're dealing with?”

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Actionable Steps & Closing Thoughts

• Get involved locally: Attend and demand accountability at school board meetings, campaign for better DA candidates, file FOIA requests on school/police reporting gaps.
• Support whistleblowers: Advocate for teachers who speak out about safety issues.
• Direct action: Consider parental walkouts to impact school funding until systemic changes occur.
• Spread the word: Encourage community awareness, especially for those who may not realize how local school governance impacts child safety and transparency.

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:21 | Overview of Buffalo Public School investigation | | 05:32 | Confirmation of major allegations, report attempts at excuses | | 14:00 | “Systemic” blame means no accountability | | 34:39 | Security video fiasco, selective disclosure | | 45:00 | Direct quote of obstruction from DA’s office | | 50:04 | Angry Cops refuses to send his child to Buffalo schools | | 54:10 | FERPA’s misuse to obstruct criminal investigations | | 71:14 | “School, other”—coding incidents to avoid oversight | | 73:36 | FOIA tactics to match dispatch calls with missing reports | | 77:20 | Retaliation against whistleblowing teachers | | 83:59 | Organizing parent walkouts as protest | | 85:03 | Effects of collective absence, funding pressure |

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Summary

The Unsubscribe team delivers a raw, humor-laced but unflinching breakdown of failures in the Buffalo Public School system investigation. They expose a pattern of legal stonewalling, shoddy administration, and forgotten victims, and urge listeners to take practical local action—from FOIA requests to election activism and organized walkouts—to force real change in an unaccountable system.

Bottom Line:
The state acknowledged real problems, but shielded all responsible parties. Without public outrage and action, nothing changes. This episode is both a call to arms and a playbook for local advocacy.

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Transcript

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It literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the lawyers.

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What?

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You, the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools, are intentionally obstructing investigations into the abduction of children.

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Yeah. Get ready for round two. Say hi to Eli.

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Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast, AKA the Absolutely Foul Podcast. We are joined today by Eli Double Tap, Nick the Fat Electrician, Rich Angry Cops, and myself, Donut Operator. Thank you for joining, Donut.

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Thank you for having us.

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Brandon is busy with his election right now and.

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Step in.

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You know, we're super excited to see how that goes.

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This is our last. Our last podcast with normal civilian Brandon Herrera, probably.

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Oh, no. We've got a long ways to go.

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I don't believe you. No.

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Well, I mean, at the bare minimum,

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All right, we can't do that. We can't

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cut that part.

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No, we cannot.

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Two seconds.

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Two seconds into this, we just bleep all of what you said and then like, you can't do that.

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I like that. It's true.

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Today we have an update, because in the last couple of weeks, what was released, Mr. Rich?

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Oh, the findings of the law. Not law enforcement, but the. Oh, geez, what's it called?

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Investigation.

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Yeah, I know, the investigation, but the investigation was run by whom?

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Law firm.

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Law firm.

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Independent investigator.

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Yeah, an independent investigator hired by the Buffalo Public School system. And this. How dare you. First of all, my mind's all erased. I have so many things that I wanna Go over that. I can't think clearly. Basically, long and the short of it is a bunch. I came on this podcast and wept like a bitch for a couple minutes and then told everybody how bad the Buffalo public school systems were. And then the news ridiculed me and said, look at this idiot. Talking about something that we should focus on, but we'll choose not to focus on.

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Look at this guy. And they have alcoholic beverages on the table and he burped once. We should ignore the allegations he's made as an SVU detective about the improprieties that are happening with our children in our public school systems.

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Right. He already sounds like he's going to be president, so.

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God, no. Never.

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District 23 needs president, and that man is Brandon Herrera. So we, you know, obviously, the autistic army pushes back, rightfully so. And says, hey, how about you focus on the facts that this guy's bringing up to. Which gets a lot of eyeballs on it. To. Which changes the information that came out about the most egregious incident that I talked about, which was the attempted abduction of two children at a Buffalo public school that was mishandled by the Buffalo public school system, which we'll get into as we discuss the findings of this investigation. And then, well, yeah, that led to the investigation from the Buffalo Public Schools via this law firm that they hired to look into things, which, if I'm not mistaken, I know they talked to me a couple of times. I only talked to Nick. I'm not sure if he gave them binder or gave him the binder, made a copy of it, which was pretty substantial. And now just a little over a week ago, they came out with their findings from the investigation real quick.

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Except hopefully we actually hold some people accountable in this case.

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Well, just like the Epstein files, Brandon,

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you might be disappointed in the fact that how few people are held accountable at the end of this.

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How.

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What inappropriate juxtaposition there. The FC files and the investigation ending with the Buffalo Public Schools.

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Release the Buffalo Files.

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It was crazy watching you react all of our reactions and then just combing through it and be like, oh, oh, oh, nothing is going to happen. And then when you start really digging deep into it, you see all the problems.

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They're like, so what, what did they say? We've investigated, we've investigated ourselves and found no, no wrongdoing.

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It was not that bad.

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I mean, he, he can only go so hard. But I mean, basically the gist of the entire thing is the podcast made this allegation. The podcast was correct for like 90% of it. And then when we got to the actual case, like the, the probably the biggest allegation, which was the deleting of the footage, they had like a three page, very complicated, elaborate excuse for how it was a failure of the their systems and nobody's actual fault.

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So did they or didn't they?

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I had to read it four times to kind of understand what the fuck they were saying.

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They're trying to say that no individual person actually hit delete.

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Correct.

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Okay.

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And it goes to that level of even the kidnapping. Well, we can't confirm this story. And it's just he said, she said, and you have then nothing done with it. It's like, oh, well, sorry, we tried, couldn't confirm it. We did our job. And that was even, wasn't it for the kidnapping too?

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So I'll say for most of it, right? For most of the things where they say we can't confirm it, it's them, I feel, being honest, where they say we didn't, we couldn't get any information regarding this because of A, B or C. And I'll tell you what those things are. And so we couldn't confirm that, but we also couldn't deny any of that. And I'll give you an example. So for one of the cases that I brought up where a young woman got by a young man, they're both students in a school, I believe it was in northern Buffalo, and the young girl told the principal, the principal did her own investigation, didn't report it, which is a mandated reporter, you have to. And then a year later, one of the girl, either the girl or one of the girl's friends stated, hey, this happened to so and so or me, I forget. And then it was an interview or investigated by district attorney's office and Buffalo police. And the district attorney, the assistant district attorney in charge of that case sent a subpoena to the school principal. And the school principal said, I'm not going to reply to the subpoena, I will not come in I did my own investigation. I found it unfounded. I'm not coming in for this.

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So I didn't know you could just choose to do that.

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Yeah, well, you can't. Well, there you go, you know, but, you know, if you have a district attorney that's not going to do anything, you can do whatever you want to do. And that's one of the issues, right. Is for that specific case, one, the Buffalo Police Department could not give out any information because it is a case that involves juveniles. So you're limited. And I see where they're limited in the information that you can give out regarding juveniles. Denials to FOIL requests or Freedom of Information act or foil Freedom of Information legislation, they're limited. But the district attorney's office, and this is kind of par for the course for all of the district attorneys. I just about involvement in this, except for the abduction case, would not assist the law firm in its investigation. So specifically for that case that I just brought up with the young girl being assaulted in the school by the pool and the principal getting a subpoena, I know for a fact that that principal's letter is in the file, the investigatory file, along with the subpoena by the assistant district attorney. But the district attorney's office will not supply that information to the investigative body, that law firm.

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Why?

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God fucking knows.

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Because it makes them look bad.

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Because it. Well, because it probably does make the district attorney look as though he the. My legal authority. I will not choose to enforce that legal authority that I was voted in for when it comes to the assault or the misrepresentation under reporting Solomon Child, or specifically the. I'm not going to follow the law and answer your subpoena, which is insane. If you are the district attorney of an area and I'm some turd and you say you here's a subpoena to me. You have to show up.

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Yeah.

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And I go, fuck you, I'm not gonna do it. And then you sit there with your thumb in your ass and go, well, I guess I'm not gonna do anything. Everybody else now goes, oh, sweet. This guy's not gonna do anything.

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Yeah.

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Which is exactly what I believe happened with the Buffalo Public Schools. Legislative body or not legislative body, but their judicial body, their. Their legal representation. They said, oh, on many occasions, not just that one. They're not going to do anything. So we don't have to do anything.

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We don't have to show up when they say like that.

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And part of the investigation was that the legal representatives for the school were investigated by this law firm and it's two lawyers talking to one another. So Jesus Christ. Like could you. It's two rats fighting over a dead corpse. Like what do we tell you? I could give a shit. So anyway, it's two peas in a pod. And unfortunately that dead corpse is the corpse of a child. So what the investigation found was that there wasn't a good check the box verification system for subpoenas being sent to the school or individuals or the legal representatives for the school. And that that's where this not answering subpoenas issue comes forward. And what they basically say in the investigation is that for that incident and I believe others, the school legal representatives aren't given a subpoena. The mop for the schools is that if you are a person given a subpoena, it is your responsibility to then send that subpoena to the legal representation of the schools.

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Well, before we go, like, too deep into the weeds, like, into the minutiae of it, like, what. What's the. The big picture looking like right now? Like, where are we at?

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Like, what's the findings of the entire investigation? Like, nuts and bolts of it. So this is what's frustrating, right? The entire investigation is like the final paragraph. And it's. The investigatory body, that law firm, they say we have found systemic problems in the Buffalo Public Schools, reporting policies and other policies. Big word here. Systemic in the system, brought apart by the system. But we find no individual responsible for any of the actions to include. Get ready for this. The people in charge of the system that run the system, that make the rules and enforce the system. The Buffalo Public School.

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Thank God, because it's everybody and not one specific person, then we can't hold anyone accountable.

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Right. If only we could hold the people for. Accountable that made the rules that kept us here in this stagnant place. But we can't, because it's not their fault. Which is the whole thing that made me really frustrated was there's problems. What's that?

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They did say. But we recommended new things.

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Oh, we recommended some changes, which I'm. Okay. You want to recommend some changes. That's cool. Some of them were blacked out because it's like security policies when it comes to the schools, which I understand, you know, hey, this is me and you talking about security for schools. That conversation does not need to be public.

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Let's not tell the criminals how to circumvent.

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, which is. I mean, do you even need to tell the criminals how to circumvent the system? You can just not follow subpoenas by the district attorney's office and then break into a school and do whatever you want. Because it's a systemic problem and we haven't changed the system yet. And we're not holding anybody accountable in charge of the system. So.

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So what do we do from here? Like, what's the. Is there any recourse here? Or is it just kind of like where. This is where we're at, right?

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That it's. This is. This is.

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We were discussing this earlier.

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Hear me out. Where we're at now, before.

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Do we have to censor what the next step.

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But it's your fault.

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So you know how because of the Tony thing, it's become like common knowledge on the Internet that Congress has like a slush fund for settling salt allegations?

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Which is crazy.

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Which is crazy, right?

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Like, for those who didn't follow, I basically like accidentally kicked off MeToo DC edition. Yeah. Where there is legitimately a slush fund that Congress has with millions of dollars for dealing with allegations of where does

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the money come from.

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I'm still trying to determine whether or not it's taxpayer or donor funded. Either way is bad.

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Wild.

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Yeah, yeah. It's not like. Yeah, no, this is just a general fund that set aside knowing the fact that, you know, I'm sure people are accused of things they haven't done. But also just kind of the underlying assumption is, oh well, we know congressmen are pieces of shit and we're Monster Energy.

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Gonna have to defend these allegations at some point. So we'll just, we'll keep a pool going for whenever that comes up.

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It's not a one off where it's like, oh, we'll build this from a case to case basis. Like, oh, John, who's very innocent guy, he got hit with this. Hey, let's raise some money. This is, ah. We'll just. This is gonna happen a lot. We'll have a well built for that, which is wild.

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That got me thinking about slush funds. And unsub's been threatened to have been sued multiple times. Not for assault allegations, but for other things. Mostly talking on the Internet.

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Taxpayer funded settlements.

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Jesus.

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Yeah, that's disgusting. And how much money?

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Just for reference, like millions.

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10, 15 million.

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Yeah. In. And it varies on a year to year basis. But apparently in 2017, it was revealed that at least $300,000 in public funds had been used to settle harassment claims against congressional offices.

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Tony Gonzalez is looking at that like, we got to bump those Numbers up most of rookie numbers.

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He's not gonna have to worry about it much longer.

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Anal.

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Anyways, that got me thinking. Unsub should just have a slush fund for next time we get threatened to get sued for, like, I don't know, calling out a school district or ruining a politician's career, because we're probably going to get sued at some point. We've had multiple threats already. I agree.

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Well, not only that, but also the.

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We double down on them, though.

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They got a hold of our agent, and our agent is like, if you guys don't do xyz, they're going to involve lawyers and sue you. And our official response was, lol, Send it.

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Was that the actual response? Hell, yeah, dude. If I was working on their end and I got that as a response,

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I'd be like, oh, they said, lol, send it.

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Could you. Could you imagine that? Like, in any other scenario, like, America

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has me, Cristian Harris reader, tear them air to air. I mean, it's any kind of battle.

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It is.

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Lol.

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That's.

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Well, maybe we talked.

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He might be making a mistake.

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They sent back an eggplant emoji.

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So the slush fund idea, which we still should do, also got me thinking. Why doesn't unsub just have our own PAC money for influencing politics and, like, doing legal stuff? We could have come pack, and then we could, I don't know, citizens.

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Give.

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Give money to whoever's running for district attorney of Erie county in New York?

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That's what I was going to say. Like, really? Like, not even just, like, to prop up people because, like, I don't want any fucking money.

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No, I want to Use it to take down bad people.

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Exactly. Use it as like, oh, it's the asshole punishment fund.

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Yes, yes. That's what I want.

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I just like, we don't have a stamp of approval. It's a, it's a mark of people we don't like.

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[A]

It just becomes a thing. Like whenever the black. Whenever we endorse somebody if they have an issue now.

[B]

I mean, I honestly, I love the idea of.

[A]

I think we should do it compact.

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

I hate how much Cubs coming after

[A]

me comes on me. Guys.

[C]

They're on to me.

[D]

Because we were talking is like, do you just have a fund that just doesn't get taxed or touched and we build it? We don't know we'd have to do that.

[A]

What can you do with PAC money once you like, if you like. There are a lot of restrictions. Yeah, there's. I know there's a lot of rules with it.

[B]

A lot of people use them as an opportunity because like there are max out amounts for different campaigns and it's different state to state and whether it's federal, state, local, whatever amounts that an individual can donate to a campaign. But you can do like people use packs because there's no, there's no limit on what you can give to a pack. At least in most cases. So like you can, you can give, you know, if I could only give 5,000 to you as a candidate. Well, now I can give $100,000 to this pack. The only thing is it's illegal for the candidate to conspire with the pack. Like you can't have that direct communication. Like, oh yeah, donate to my pack that I run, by the way. And the candidate have complete control over the advertisements, shit like that. Like they've got their own board. Like it has to be separate. That being said, we're not collaborating with any politician. We're motherfucking them. So we're lazing targets. I feel like that's.

[D]

What about you though, would we have like, if.

[C]

Is there a PAC that we could use that could support you? The C PAC of some sort for Brandon?

[B]

Well, I actually.

[C]

There's gotta be a pack.

[D]

Yeah, there's something. There's gotta be.

[B]

I did actually I did start a pack at some. At a certain point or I wanted to called a based pack where we were just Gonna go like. And this is before I saw on the nose.

[C]

I don't know if I like. I like it, but it's so on the nose.

[B]

So it's just gonna be like, again, like, going. Giving the good guys support and stuff like this. But it's also much more exciting to just punish bad people. I like that.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Punisher pack.

[A]

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[B]

Oh, Lord.

[A]

And it would make me very happy to come with more than that and just give him a message right as his campaign spooling up. Congratulations, you're now involved in the most expensive DA Race of all time.

[D]

I hate how powerful CPAC compact would get because I truly believe that can raise a lot dangerous really quick.

[C]

I mean, we got a couple of years. Do you think cpac, do you think come back could, like, I don't know, change the election of Erie County District Attorney's office?

[B]

I feel like it probably could.

[A]

Feel like we could do that ourselves.

[D]

That could get dangerous.

[A]

But how much more we could do?

[D]

Yeah, because then it's actual change and it's going towards something and then millions raised.

[C]

I mean, how hard for the city of Buffalo and the people of Erie county to, like, raise a little bit of money and be like, oh, hey, this guy's not working with trying to put, you know, people who are abusing our children behind bars or holding the schools accountable. I mean, I feel like that's a pretty easy when winnable race.

[B]

The thing is, you'd also want to find a candidate that you like. You want to find somebody who actually represents. I don't know, the thing a DA supposed to do.

[C]

Like a good lawyer. Like maybe a lawyer.

[A]

I don't know, Rich, if you won your election exclusively because some PAC relentlessly slandered your opponent on the Internet and ruined their career and then overfunded you, I bet you'd be on your fucking P's and Q's the entire time.

[B]

You'd hope so. But also, we're talking about their money

[D]

goes to destroying people. They don't back anyone. They're like, this is way scary.

[B]

We're also talking about a perfect storm of someone who's both a politician and a lawyer. So I wouldn't put a lot past him.

[C]

I'll also say this just, you know, as a man in, you know, media, I look for advertisements. And did you know that the local billboards across The. The. The 190 in the city of Buffalo, it's a major vein that goes through the city. It's only like $10,000. Could get you about five billboards for an entire month going up and down the interstate that goes directly through the city of Buffalo.

[B]

And the best part is, whoever puts those billboards up gets to choose what's on them.

[D]

Oh, man. That's crazy, huh?

[C]

Oh, well, it's okay. What if it's not?

[A]

Like, the DA's dad, who was super wealthy, had the judge seal a court case where he got a DUI in college so nobody knew about it forever.

[B]

That'd be crazy. I'm sure that's. Well, that's one out of five. All right, we got four more.

[C]

Well, you know what? There's gotta be a reason other than poor leadership that the assistant district attorneys with. I don't know, experience have been fleeing the district, the Erie County District Attorney's office over the past year. I mean, it's like. It's like eight have resigned and gone somewhere else, if not more, in like, in a span of 12 months.

[D]

I didn't really

[C]

know.

[D]

Was it from you?

[C]

Geez, I don't know. I don't know. It's almost like there are people that are tired of seeing bad people get away with murder sometimes literally, or child or just a lack of. Geez. What would you call that?

[B]

Like, accountability.

[C]

Accountability is the term.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It was crazy reading again the. The document and seeing they tried to sweep the lady flipping off on the cameras under the rug, like. Well, she said it didn't happen, so.

[C]

Oh, they talked about that too.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

We're not sure if we can confirm.

[C]

They were like, ah, it's water under the bridge. Yeah.

[D]

And they tried to.

[A]

I will say, reading that I did have a pretty big smile on my face because I was like, that's from my binder. That's from my binder. That's from my binder. That's like. They were. I'm not shitting you. Screenshots of documents that I had acquired are exhibit evidence in this report, where it's like. And he kind of scorches them on the shelter in place thing. I don't know if you remember that part.

[C]

So there is a portion of it. I think you'll do a better job of explaining it because you kind of touched on it before. Yeah, go ahead.

[A]

So basically when the school. When the guy broke into the school and was potentially abducting children or trying to abduct children, the school has protocols, and there's like three tiers of what you tell the school members so they know how to act accordingly. There is shelter in place, which is the lowest tier, which is like, there's inclement weather, like a tornado outside. It basically says, we're gonna lock the exterior doors, stay inside.

[D]

Right.

[A]

And then there's an intermediary one, which I forget. And then there's lockdown. And lockdown means that there's an interior threat to the school. And every teacher needs to get the students in the classrooms, lock the classroom doors and take a roll call to account for all the kids.

[C]

The intermediate one is lock out.

[A]

Lock out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Correct.

[D]

Sorry.

[A]

Shelter in place. You don't lock any doors. You just stay inside, lock out as you lock the exterior doors for, like, a tornado or whatever.

[B]

But there's.

[A]

There's an exterior threat that could try to get in.

[B]

But they did the shelter in place.

[A]

They did shelter in place, which is the lowest tier one.

[D]

And this is after been you guys already brought up. This door should be locked. The side doors. Oh.

[C]

So yeah, the. This is. We already brought this fact up. Like I know people that have worked in that school before and people in the. The science museum and the doors that the individual got in the doors from the school. There's a set of doors at the school and the museum share. So if you're in the museum, you can access the doors to the school. If you're in the school, you can access the doors of the museum and go through the museum.

[B]

Cool.

[C]

Interesting for learning spaces. But those doors have been broken and have not been locked for over a year. And I believe it was over a year at that point when the gentleman or the guy broke in to go abduct, potentially abduct the kids. So those doors were unlocked, knew they were a problem, was brought up by security individuals. And then that's how the guy got in to the school. Lockdown or not, he still would have gotten in because those school doors were unsecured and had been unsecured for a year. Over a thousand.

[A]

Right. But had they called lockdown, the teachers would have known to get the kids into classrooms and lock the doors, Correct?

[C]

Yes.

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Oh, I had broke that in the original video, saying they called shelter in place, not lockdown, which is insane. And then I had acquired the letter they sent home to parents which said that they went into shelter in place, which downplays the entire event to the parents. And then in the thing, they're like, no, we talked to the leadership, they said they did lockdown, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're like. Which we find hard to believe because this letter that we acquired from me clearly says that you told the parents that you went into shelter in place. And then there was like, I had three other pieces of evidence that showed that they went into shelter in place. And it was like, it literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the lawyers. That was my interpretation of it, at least when I read it. But they were trying to tell the lawyer. No, no, no. There was a miscommunication. We Went into lockdown. And even the lawyer, like, couldn't even deny. He's like, well, then why did you tell all the parents that you went into shelter in place? He's like, I interviewed like, other people that also were adamant that it was shelter in place, not locked down. Like it was insane.

[C]

Dad didn't kill a guy. I'm going to interview you about if you killed a guy. Oh, he says he didn't do it. Damn. It's almost like you're the Buffalo Public Schools. And I'm like, did you this up? And you're like, no.

[B]

Well, I've got a letter where you said you killed that guy.

[A]

I have a letter where you said you did it.

[D]

What?

[B]

Water under the bridge, right?

[D]

The dad didn't. Under the bridge, right? He was. I found out from the video that my kids were potentially.

[B]

Oh, he found out from us.

[C]

Basically, the podcast is what got him to get involved. And via either the podcast and his involvement, I forget which. But there was two months, I think he said after the date.

[D]

I thought it was like six. I swore it was six is when I was like, I found out my kid was interacted with this period.

[C]

Either way, months, months after the fact that the. The attempted abduction happened.

[B]

Imagine finding out that your kids almost got abducted from a. From strangers on the. From us. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, guys.

[B]

I mean, really?

[C]

Yeah, guys. That belt on the Internet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Foul. People that, you know, call out shitty

[C]

raise money for autism. How dare we?

[D]

It's wild. Brandon, what kind of shirt is that?

[B]

I'm glad you asked, Eli. This is a poncho. Brandon and I actually wear poncho so much, we constantly end up wearing the same nice poncho shirt. Good thing nobody's ever pointed that out before. Now, if you guys have ever seen one of our live shows or this podcast in general, you'll see Brandon and I wearing these incredibly comfortable, great looking shirts all the time.

[D]

Finn, pull it up with pictures. They're literally always wearing the same shirt.

[B]

I got turned on a poncho like a year ago. Been wearing them ever since, personally, preferably. I think this is the Western because it's got the pearl snaps. Because it's hot in Texas and I like something breathable.

[D]

Here's the thing I find really cool. Brandon, do the glasses trick.

[B]

So ponchos have this neat little thing in the pocket where you just take your glasses.

[D]

No, the other one.

[A]

Be more specific.

[D]

Who gives a shit about that? All right, watch, everyone.

[B]

So if you got fat fingers and you smudge your glasses all the time the bottom of the shirt actually acts. It has like a microfiber so you can clean your glasses.

[D]

I make him clean my phones.

[B]

He does. I like the hidden little pocket on the breast.

[D]

Wait, what?

[B]

Right over here. Got a little zipper pocket.

[D]

I didn't even know about that one. Is that where you hold Cody's heart and his drugs? Things you might need to know.

[A]

Poncho has put a lot of thought

[D]

and detail into each one of their shirts.

[C]

Oh, holy sh.

[B]

They're soft. They're really soft, yo.

[D]

What?

[B]

That's my one like thing is fabric sensitivity. I don't wear uncomfortable shirts. This is comfy as. That's why we wear them all the time.

[D]

So Poncho's got a bunch of great styles. The original western denim and ultralight.

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[D]

They're reading that and going through it, and then again, nothing happens. At the end of the day is when we all discuss like, hey, we should probably bring this up again because nothing's going to change.

[A]

Okay? Did you understand what the fuck they were trying to say in, like, the three pages where they articulate why the video got deleted or how it was misplaced? I had to read it three times. And I'm be honest, I still don't completely understand what the fuck they're trying to say.

[C]

So what it looked like to me is it was. It was legal jargon, gobbledygook for nobody's taking accountability. But because nobody's taking accountability, we don't have a finger to point. Right? And I'll tell you this, because when I read it, they were saying, okay, the. The school's point of view from this, and this is the legal. And we're going to get into this because there's an obstruction portion of this, which is huge, that if anybody gets anything out of this, the obstruction portion of this story is massive. So the school's complaint to the district attorney's office where they requested video of it was that the district attorney's request was too vague and that the district attorney's request, the ADA that had the case was, we need all video camera footage regarding this incident.

[D]

Right?

[C]

So while this investigation happens of the law firm looking into the school about this, the Video footage that was, like, not totally sent over to the district attorney's office. Their findings was.

[B]

What do you mean, not totally sent over?

[C]

So think little refresher. The reason why there was an issue with the one parent not knowing that their child was involved. So originally it came out as one potential abduction. And then after our interview and media attention, it came out that there was a second child that was attempted to be abducted during this, and that that second child's family was not told about it for a while. That's why we brought up the dad that found out his kid was not abducted until, you know, 60 days or six months later. And one of the issues with that, the main cause of that was that the district attorney's office didn't have all of the video from the schools after they requested all the video from that incident. And it was only when somebody from the schools had good intentions and had previously recorded a portion from a specific video camera in the school showing the second child was being abducted, not just the first, but that there was a second involved, and then sent that to the district attorney's office. That then the district attorney reviewed that footage and said, oh, my God, there's a second kid involved.

[A]

So exactly what you said happened pretty much.

[D]

Okay, so it's inexcusable that months after me as a parent coming into the school, coming to the school at night, coming to the school during the day, coming to the school every day, that I did not know that my son is one of the first persons that this person encountered. Months.

[C]

Months.

[D]

And he's there apparently every day, and he's like, yo, what the.

[C]

So the investigation from the lawyer's office, the legal team, they find out that. And this is their response is that the district attorney's request for video evidence of the entire incident was so vague that people who reviewed the video footage were like, oh, there's three cameras down this hallway. We'll give you one of the cameras. Even if all three of the video cameras recorded the incident at different angles and perhaps different times, is there only give you one.

[A]

Is there a word for, like, when you want everything pertaining to something? Or like all. There's a word. All.

[C]

Yeah, involving the incident. We would like all video involving.

[A]

I'm sorry, was that too vague?

[D]

All the footage is wild. Oh, here. All foot. There's three cameras of this situation. We will provide all three. Not like. Well, we didn't know you wanted all three angles.

[C]

If there's. Forgive me for a moment. I'm going to spitball for. For a sec. If there is a break it into a school and a child is nearly abducted by the person and that person assaults school staff and then the district attorney's office, not the police, the district attorney's office says, give me all the video this incident to me, a reasonable person, I would be like, I want every camera from 10 minutes before this guy's on our soil to an hour after all the police leave. And we're going to give them all of those gigabytes of data.

[B]

That sounds like all.

[C]

That sounds like all.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm not going to delete any. I'm going into this like they asked for one thing. I'm going to give them everything. I'm definitely not the person to pick and choose what is good.

[A]

Evidence is all too vague. I don't understand the. I. I don't get it.

[C]

I think it's specific. It's specific. I would like all of your camera footage from this time to that.

[A]

If I hold this up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And Brandon asked me, how much of that did you drink, Nick? And I say all of it.

[B]

You're being too vague.

[A]

The cam's empty. What are we talking about?

[C]

Like

[D]

we'll get right for a crime. For a crime where it is they want that angle. It's not really good. But you know what? We need to prove that we did everything possible here.

[B]

I mean it's not even that, like the angle's not very good. You left out a whole ass kid.

[A]

You're not qualified to homeschool your kids. You need to send them to me because I'm a professional. Also, I don't know what the word all means. What are we talking about?

[B]

Also, I forgot to mention your child was abducted.

[A]

Also that.

[D]

Yeah, sorry about that, bro.

[C]

So the.

[B]

Oh, you wanted me to be accountable for all the kids. Oh, are you sure?

[C]

That's a great line to bring up. Hey, are you responsible for all the kids? Because what are you. Are you concerned or do you not know what all means when it comes to children? It seems so.

[D]

One of the parents is warned.

[C]

That's all of them.

[D]

The kids should have told you what the fuck. Which they did try to blame the

[B]

kids carry the one they tried to blame. They actually tried to blame the kids themselves.

[D]

We thought the parents would talk or the, the children would say something. That was like one of the statements

[C]

that I think that's like. I forget what that was about. But still sticking on the video thing. So their legal. The legal team looking into it, their findings were. Hey, there's not like a specific mop for evidence collection or video collection, manual of procedures. Specifically written down on how they're supposed to retrieve it and give it to the Buffalo Police Department or the District Attorney's office. And because that request was vague, they like, they. They weren't really sure how to do all of it or whatever. Right? So that's one of the things, and we've kind of hit on how ridiculous that is, Is the other thing which is massive here, and this is what I want people to really focus on is the obstruction is they say, we did not find any obstruction from the Buffalo Public Schools or their legal representatives during this investigation. Now, here's an important piece of information here that they quote and they bring up in this. In. Well, in the investigation. And that is the investigating attorneys say. Here is a quote from an email from the district Attorney's office, quote, the assistant district attorney to the legal team representing the school of Buffalo, the city. Buffalo City Schools. Your lack of transparency and hiding behind ferpa, which I'll get into in a second, is. And your inability to share requested subpoenaed evidence with us is obstructing our investigation.

[B]

Well, that's an interesting choice of words, which ganny.

[C]

This is where I go nuts. This is where I go nuts. Which the attorneys looking into the investigation. The investigating body says, although obstruction is a word commonly used in legal terms for preventing and an arrestable offense for preventing or obstructing an investigation. The district Attorney's office, the lawyers saying you're obstructing my investigation. That's not actually obstruction. That's just like they're using the term. They're not. They don't actually mean the word.

[B]

They don't mean what they said they mean.

[C]

Hey, dude. 100% and you can read it for yourself. I have it. I shit you not. I wrote down the pages also real quick.

[B]

I just love the fact that, like, Eli knew to turn down your mic to the degree that you'd be shouting into it. But I saw you peeking my mic like we're just. Very funny.

[C]

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He's getting fumed out of his mind.

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[C]

Page 37 and 39 of the report, which is if you open it, there's a PDF document. I hope that there's a link somewhere. Page 37 states in the mid paragraph that the obstruct. The. The school's legal team is obstructing. Obs. Quote, obstructs investigation from the DA's office. And on page 39, the top paragraph states the DA's office found it obstructive. But we don't find it as obstruction to the investigation in like a legal definition arrestable form, which makes zero sense.

[B]

There are good attorneys in this, in this world, but half of them should be flogged publicly.

[C]

They also go on to state that the video deletion of the kidnapping is okay, is quote, neglectful, but that nobody is in nobody's. Nobody's at fault.

[D]

That's the thing. They just. No one's at fault. And we were discussing. It's just no one's held accountable. Like, well, okay, well, are you happy with that? Hey, make sure any particular findings must not translate into harassment, threats or intimidation directed at anyone. The path forward requires collaboration, not division as we work to create the safest.

[A]

That shit. Do your job. I'll make sure you get fired.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, bingo. Well, here's the thing that pisses me off is like this idea that, okay, yes, a failure did happen, but nobody failed. It's like, okay, well I'm sorry, but I think those two sentences are completely incompatible with each other. If a failure had occurred with your organization that allowed something bad to happen, cool, let's fix it, right? But to be able to say that nobody, nobody failed at anything, there's no, no one individual actually didn't do their job like, well, that, that doesn't make any fucking sense, frankly.

[D]

We did the math for what was the percentage.03 reported as

[A]

well. They talk about.

[C]

Okay, we can't talk about it yet. We can't talk about it yet.

[D]

Math doesn't. Math.

[C]

Can't talk about it yet. I'm gonna have him FOIA request it and then we're going to talk about it because it's one of those things that I'm aware of, but we have to foil. Request it.

[D]

What would you want to see done now or because of this? What's the disappointment? You're like, okay, this needs to happen.

[C]

Here's the disappointment, right? And a lot of it comes to that specific incident because it was such a, a good, a horrible incident, but such a good representation of how the Buffalo school systems does. Do not work with the district attorney's office at the Buffalo Police Department.

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And that is that they're investigating body uncovered. And this is in that those pages that 3,637 to like 41 or 42, you know, and they're wide space. It's not going to take you an hour to read. It's going to take you 5, 10 minutes. The investigating body writes in their findings. The district attorney's office is emailing the legal team representing the city of Buffalo Public Schools stating you are intentionally misinterpreting law so that you can defeat an investigation and obstruct an investigation into the abduction of children that Is a fact. That is 100% a fact. If anybody can get anything out of this 100% fact is that the investigation found the district attorney's office emailed stating you, the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools are intentionally misrepresenting legal doctrine and obstructing investigations into the abduction of children. Full stop. That is a fact in the investigation. If you are a parent of any child in that school, if you are a taxpayer in the city of Buffalo, the fact that a legal team in the city school system is intentionally, via the district attorney's office, obstructing investigations into the welfare of your children. I don't know how you're not lighting that place on fire.

[A]

Metaphorically,

[C]

in Minecraft.

[B]

There we go.

[D]

Because, I mean, as a future parent, it's one of the most terrifying things.

[C]

Probably my kid's never going to go to a Buffalo public school, but there are kids that don't have the option. This is where I get passionate about. I'm sorry if I'm yelling, but I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Pissing me off. So I'm never going to send my kid to a city of Buffalo. Buffalo public school ever. Because they're so corrupt and horrible. It's disgusting. Case in point for what I just said about the investigation.

[A]

I'm not.

[C]

You are. All those families that don't have an option to send their kids to public school, all those families that are working two jobs that are trying to make ends meet where you don't have a choice, you have to send them to public school. That's it. You're fucked. And if you don't do anything. Yep. If you don't do anything. So if this is the time, if this is the moment where you're going to ignore all the evidence on the table and do absolutely nothing.

[B]

Sounds like at the very least the DA needs to get shit canned. When's he up for election again?

[C]

Three years?

[A]

No, it's sooner. It's in my phone. It's on my calendar.

[B]

I knew Nick would keep a tally.

[C]

Yeah, we're looking at. To see if anything changes.

[D]

What do you do? What would you recommend for individuals? Because this is. We found out it's way bigger than just Buffalo.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

During our time, it was like, holy. This is not just.

[B]

It turns out incompetent government employees are everywhere.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

If you're going to a public school,

[C]

light me on fire.

[D]

And that's what's crazy about it. It's terrifying. Be like, oh, this is the best option we have. No, you can start making Changes at a local level and holding people accountable. When you get a piece of paper, it's like, ah, dude, they tried.

[C]

Yeah. The changes that need to happen in my mind are all the female friends and representatives in the Buffalo Public school system. Those people that are on the board that hitched their ponies to the superintendent that recently retired and had that school named after her, which is disgusting. What a horrible self bloviated pat on the back that is that you'll allow all this to happen and then get an award by having a school auditorium named after you. Get, you fat idiot. Anywho, anybody that hits their ponies and it's not hard to find them, except one of them is the woman that flipped off. Everybody on that fucking call needs to 100% be called to resign and replaced with somebody, a parent or a teacher that cares about these kids. Because I'm telling you right now, except for a handful, and I mean like literally like two or three or four people on the board that I've already talked to, they all need to go, including the new guy.

[A]

I can make it easy. All the, the vast majority of people that like hardline supported her, believe it or not, they're all in the same sorority in college.

[C]

Oh, there you go. All the women in the.

[A]

Found that out.

[B]

The good old gal system.

[A]

Yeah, so there's that.

[D]

I don't know, it's just.

[C]

Oh, and the other thing too is like those the AG's office needs to investigate the Buffalo Public Schools legal team or the bar does because of their inability to do their job or answer subpoenas and hide behind legal statutes like ferpa, which by the way, so I

[B]

was wondering, because I didn't know that acronym.

[C]

Here's what FERPA is. It's ferpa. I forget exactly what it stands for, but it basically it protects students information. So if you're a dad of a child, you can request information. If you're a stranger on the Internet that like got upset about something and maybe the kid's involved in some sort of like criminal aspect or is the victim of some sort of criminal aspect and you like go to the school and say I want that kid's information, the school can say no.

[B]

Right, right. It's privacy protection.

[C]

Yes, but it's very limited. So FERPA is. I'm requesting Nick's grades, his, his report card, his attendance record. It's specifically for that.

[B]

Yeah, that's what FERPA belongs to, not criminal activity.

[C]

So it doesn't mean that if you go to a School and you stab a kid. And then I come up as a Buffalo police officer asking your teacher or administrator of the school, what's your name and date of birth? They can't say, I can't give you that because it's ferpa. But what the Buffalo public school system is doing is literally. This is not an exaggeration, is literally, in cases of violence and assault, the student on student, or assault when it's a student onto a teacher or a faculty member to include people that clean up the schools, which happens, I will show up. Or other detectives will show up, or officers will show up and say, hey, school, we need the name of the student that assaulted Jimmy the janitor and broke his mouth wide open and sent him to the hospital. But what's happening is, is the school is saying, no, we can't give you that information. Cause it's ferpa. And what happened in the investigation with the kids being abducted is exactly that. The Buffalo schools or the Buffalo Police Department and the district attorney's office said, we need the information to the victims who was there. Who are the children that were in the classrooms that he got into? Because he got into classrooms and, like, poked his head in, was just like, hey, what's going on? And then, like, got a sudden. Got.

[A]

They were.

[B]

They were sorry to derail a little bit. Did they ever figure out what his deal was? Like, why he was there?

[C]

He had schizophrenic break. He was driving himself to the hospital after making contact with officers in an adjoining town. And then he was. He was two stops away from going to the hospital and decided that, oh,

[B]

better pop into a school.

[C]

Better pop into a school.

[D]

And ferpa's was saved. Saved. The parents didn't get noticed because of that.

[C]

So what the school.

[B]

I would have thought that the parents would have been.

[D]

No, because it was responsible of the school. They decided not to. Then if FERPA didn't exist for that specific reason, it's like, hey, it's a crime. This does not exist. Then the police would have reached out. Hey, here. This is what happened. And none of that happened.

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[C]

So what. What happened was, is the abduction. The attempted abduction occurs. The Buffalo police and the district attorney's office go, hey, school, give me the names of the people that were involved to include the children, specifically the children, because these are crimes that are against children. And the school said, no, we refuse to give you the names of any victims from the school that are juveniles, which is the whole point where we're there to protect the kids because of ferpa. So the school is intentionally using ferpa where I. I'm not. I'm a stranger. I can't request your report cards or if you're tardy to class to, say, during a criminal investigation. I can refuse to give you the names of the victim children in this crime, which. Which is a horrible representation of what

[B]

FERPA is, because that will. It makes you wonder who's the legal entity responsible for deciding what.

[C]

Like, so that was their interpretation, which was wrong.

[B]

So there's no oversight on that. They could just decide that.

[C]

Well, that's why the district attorney's office said, you are intentionally misusing ferpa and obstructing this case, which is where this whole obstruction thing happens. There's.

[D]

So in the notebook they actually said, or in the printout was, hey, this is where there was a failure. But the teachers claim this, so we can't really do anything. It's like they said they tried their best, no one reported it, no at fault. We can just potentially build a roadmap for them so it doesn't happen again. Okay, everyone's good. Everyone's good.

[C]

Oh, you see, the legal team thought that by utilizing FERPA and not giving them their names to the victims of an attempted abduction, well, they thought that that was their legal right. It's not really. No. You're lawyering it.

[B]

Forgive me if this is like an off the wall comparison, but it kind of reminds me of the people that don't understand the difference between criminal and civil when it comes to qualified immunity.

[C]

I'm trying. You would have to paint me a better picture.

[D]

Yeah, sorry.

[B]

Because, like, a lot of people think so.

[C]

I'm not following.

[B]

Yeah, a lot of people, they just say, oh, we need to end qualified immunity because cops shouldn't be able to get away with doing whatever they want. It's like, well, yeah, understandably. But they don't realize that you could, say, still be tried for criminal actions.

[C]

Correct. Yeah. Qualified immunity means that for people who don't know, qualified immunity for police officers means that if I arrest Nick and it's a legal arrest, right? There is a. Even if it's like sloppy or bad or whatever, but by the law, it is legal. He can't sue me civilly. He can try to sue me criminally, or he can try to get like a criminal investigation going on. And that's cool. And the reason why that happens, you'd be like, like, well, why can't he sue you civilly? The reason he can't sue me civilly is basically every person that got arrested could then sue a cop civilly. And then you would have no police officers because we'd be out of house and home and there's like just in legal fees.

[A]

Just did everything right. You still have to pay a lawyer to defend you, even though you'd win.

[C]

Every time that I would make an arrest, a bad guy would go, sweet, I'm going to sue him for $50,000. And I would still have to hawk up the legal fees to get an attorney to defend me. And then slowly whittling away how much money I would be able to make or support a family. And then eventually, if you make 10 arrests. Imagine if you made 10 arrests a year and then each guy decided to take you to civil court for each arrest. There's your salary, there's. Dude, you're toast. How are you. How are you paying 10 different attorneys or 10, one single attorney, 10 times over for all that time, Just because you're making a legal arrest.

[B]

And it also doesn't like it with civil court. You don't actually need to be guilty of anything or have done anything wrong for somebody to take you to court that you then have to defend.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

So, like, people are like, well, yeah, no, if they're doing something wrong, then, yeah, we should be doing that. It's like, well, no, like, anybody can sue anybody for anything.

[C]

Yeah. Even then I believe that if you're found criminally at fault for something, that qualified immunity doesn't.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

That's the entire part anymore. That's the entire point. If you're a cop and you pull somebody over and you're just like, I'm deciding to bonk you on the head like that.

[C]

Yeah, you're black. Bam.

[B]

Like, you will go to. I would like to say all the time, but, like, there's probably some exceptions, but for the most part, you're like, yeah, you're going to be held criminally liable.

[C]

Yes. And then once you're held criminally liable, then you can sue them civilly. That's fine. Qualified immunity just means if I'm doing my job in the legal manner of which of which it's supposed to be, then you can't just sue me civilly, which would be like a way of intimidation.

[B]

Yeah, but maybe. Maybe that wasn't the best comparison. But it's what their interpretation of is ferpa. Their interpretation is kind of like, oh, well, we can't give any information at any time or whatever. It's like, well, no, like, there's a difference between, you know, your report card and your attendance and something that's actually criminal. Those are like two different categories.

[C]

Two different categories. But what they're doing is they're intentionally misinterpreting it to delay an investigation, to obstruct it, which is why the district attorney.

[A]

And that's the thing. Like, it's adding such a burden on the system. Because now it's not like, now the cops can't just go there and get the information to do the crime investigation and take somebody to court for that. Now, if they want to get anything done every time, they have to go to court against the school district to establish what FERPA is, or FERPA doesn't apply in this individual case. Win that court case, then they can go back to the investigation, which is a year later, and then get the information. And then you're trying to do an investigation a year after the fact.

[C]

And here's the deal, right? The Buffalo Police Department is. We're paid. We are created by an adherent to the city of Buffalo. If the Buffalo public school system is the Buffalo public school system, well, they are adherent to the mayor and the city of Buffalo. So if we both both work under the same entity, why is it that I need a subpoena from Buffalo entity 1 to Buffalo entity 2? To get the surveillance footage when a crime is committed on Buffalo public property?

[B]

Yeah, it's not like you're talking to, like two different companies talking to each other. It's like, no, I work in marketing. I'm just trying to get an answer from accounting. Yeah, like we're the same.

[C]

I'm not talking to a private school. I'm talking to a city of Buffalo. Buffalo Public school.

[D]

Why is this so difficult?

[C]

Why is this so difficult? And the biggest thing, which is just the glowing red nose on Rudolph here, is the fact that the district Attorney's office called out the legal representatives for the Buffalo Public Schools on obstruction, on intentionally misinterpreting law to prevent victims information from being shared with the district attorney's office who represents victims of crimes. And the investigative body talks about it and says how bad that is, confirming that it happened, and then goes, well, I don't even care that they go, well, it was a misinterpretation. And maybe we can work when the

[A]

professionals that are qualified to identify obstruction of the law use the word obstruction of the law. I don't know that they mean obstruction of the law, bro.

[C]

How more clear could it be that this is like us? Like, it's a fucking cover up? I mean, maybe not the legal investigators covering it for them, but I mean, the schools and their legal team trying to cover up the mistakes that they've been making.

[B]

So what our next steps, like, I,

[C]

we need to get people fired, Fuck it, I'm out. I don't give a shit.

[A]

We can't do anything. Like, that's the shitty part. It's like, we can. Well, I can, we can get the DA removed and stuff like that. But I mean, as far as, like, it's one of those things where it's like, I can't do anything for you if you're not willing to do anything for yourself. Yeah, I can throw the rope down to you, but if you're not willing to grab the rope and pull yourself up, I can't save you. So, I mean, at this point, it's on the parents to actually go out and defend your kids. And if they don't want to do it, I can only do so much for everyone.

[D]

It's not even the parents.

[C]

It is city of Buffalo taxpayers, period. Your tax money is going to a corrupt legal representative, a corrupt representation legal representative for the Buffalo. It's going to some really shitty lawyers that are protecting the schools, to include the school board. The two issues are bad lawyers that your tax money is going to. To protect bad Buffalo Public school school board members. And both of those people are preventing your children from being protected and secure in Buffalo Public Schools.

[B]

Wasn't there something shady about the lawyer too? I don't remember. I feel like I read that in the binder.

[A]

There was, there's. There's connections where a lot of the. Tell me how did it work? I think it was, it was something along the lines of like a significant amount of the lawyers that had worked at Buffalo Public Schools as employees would then get jobs and go work at this law firm that is then contracted out. I'd have to double check in the binder. But like they're, they're like heavily connected in the school system essentially.

[D]

And it is, it's just if you're a parent, future parent, you actually have to step up and cause a ruckus like, hey, what the. If you read that paperwork, that's the biggest thing. Read that doc they released.

[C]

Oh yeah.

[D]

And now go into it with Richard has everything that shows, hey, this is actually what happened. It's not a he said she shed. And they, they try to use that. It's like, oh, well, we couldn't confirm on the other side. So there's no fault because that's a lot of that article is. Well, we tried.

[C]

I will. And the thing that is frustrating about that we tried, which I talked about earlier, is I understand the Buffalo Police Department's side of things where, hey, there's a juvenile involved in this. We can't share the juveniles information. And I would hope that they could still share the narrative of the reports. Right. So the narrative of report are at such and such a time, at such and such a place, Subject A talk to subject B and did xyz. Right. I would hope that they could redact those, the victim, the juvenile information, but still keep the narrative of what occurred and the location which would show you the location of the school. Right. The school's address. That is what I would hope the Buffalo Pub or the Buffalo Police Department would do. It is frustrating that the District Attorney's office has not overturned, to my knowledge, other than I think that one email regarding the attempted abduction is not overturned, any of their investigative findings regarding some of the specific incidents to which I know, because talking with some of the media where they asked me is, does this involve such and such? And I would say yes, because I know what it is. They were like, cool, that's call number two, five dash, insert numbers. Right? And I'll go, okay, cool. They would say, all right, well, these are the people that are involved. This is what happens. This is the incident you're talking about. And say, yeah, that's the incident. They're like, well, we've got the call number. And then the District Attorney's office will be like, now we can't give you any of the information that we found during our investigation for that.

[D]

This is the thing where, again, I don't know if you can talk about. We can delete this part, but it is to a fact where it's. There is absolute lies on that documentation. When you're like, what? No, this. This exists. This evidence exists.

[C]

I know of incidents and I have. I know of them. And there are people in the media that have reached out to me and they have confirmed them with me right through their investigation, through their FOIA requests. They said, are these some of the issues or the incidents that were. Some of the issues are coming from. And I say yes. So if you can get the call numbers and the incident reports for incidents occurring at school addresses, which are foiable, totally foible. This is not new information. You'll be able to discern if there is a lack of reporting. So I'll give you an example of what you can request. Let's say that you wanted to find out if reports were not being done appropriately. Right. How do you look for something that isn't there? I think is maybe kind of like the question you might be asking.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You'd have to compare it to two things. What you'd have to do is you'd have to request for 911 dispatch calls. Right. To a school and. Or you could request for a year's worth of 911-dispatch calls that would say school, school, other, school, whatever. School, other is the biggest issue because that's the one where they hide the bullshit.

[B]

Right.

[C]

It doesn't say school, assault, doesn't say school, whatever. It Says school other. Which is where you can hide it because it's doesn't. What does other mean? Can mean whatever you want. And also doesn't say assault and flash up with a red flag saying something bad happened. Right. That's where they hide stuff. So you could request the 911 dispatch calls or CAD, computer aided dispatch, which is the. What would pop up on our computer when we go to a call. You could request all those school other calls and then taking all of those CD numbers, which is case numbers. Let's say, let's make it a lot. Let's say it's like 500 calls in a year to the schools. I don't think it's that many, but. No, it probably would.

[A]

It was something like that. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, because it's like 7,000 anyway. So let's say it's. Let's say you get 4,000. Yeah. Let's say you get 500 calls for one year or six months. Just make it a couple months. Right. To narrow down your investigation before I even went on my thing, which I have more information to tell you about after our thing and how things continued. So you would request from a time period, I want all the calls, the dispatched calls.

[B]

Yeah, but what do you mean by all?

[C]

Yeah, right. What do you mean by all? So you would FOIA the dispatch calls that came out as school other foia, request all those calls dispatched out on CAD or radio runs, however you want to describe it, and then you could request all of the reports for those calls. Now, if a computer aided dispatch call, right. Comes out, then it says, hey, call 30. This call started at 10 in the morning. And car 411 goes to that call. Right. The description of the call is school. Other additional information in that dispatch call is assault student on student, which you'll find if you requested the 1375 or the police report for that call, you would be surprised at how from assault student on student, there is no police report for it. Now, let me ask you this hypothetical question.

[D]

So if they're hit with this, this will be like, hey, and then these are the ones that have actual reports or nothing.

[C]

Hey, what is the.

[B]

What is the reason for no police report?

[C]

That's a good question, Brandon.

[D]

That is the golden question.

[C]

That's the golden goose right there. So what you'll find is potentially, if you have a call and you'll see them, I assume, maybe if you get a call where it says offense occurred between two students, or let's even just say an assault happened between a student and a Teacher. And you don't have a police report for that. Do you think that a detective in the Special Victims Unit is going to know that that salt occurred, or do you think that a district detective is going to know that that assault occurred between the student and the teacher? If no police report is made, chances are no, I'm going to say no. Which is one of the issues. I mean, and that's. That's not something that's. That's not breaking news. That's something that you can foia. That's something that's been a part of these investigations since the moment that I came out and talked about them.

[D]

It's just wild that that can even happen where it's like, man, push it aside, sweep it under the rug. We won't report that one.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

So what would you. Before we wrap this up, what would be your next steps for the individuals watching? Because we discussed this is happening way more than just Buffalo. We've all seen that. It was the sheer amount of dms about. It's like, hey, this is going on my school district. Fucking mind blowing.

[C]

So cool.

[B]

Because people, real quick, if I could just. That you see it a lot. People always pay attention, like the big sexy, you know, federal elections and things like that. They don't pay attention to things like school board and like local things.

[A]

Which affects you the most. Honest.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And your local elections affect you more than anything in federal government level.

[B]

Not only does it affect you more, most likely, but also it is where you have the biggest voice. Instead of being 1 out of 30 million, now all of a sudden you're 1 out of 300 and you can talk to a bunch of other people in the community and get them involved. And like, really, you can, you can make big moves, but people don't. Because people, it's very easy to get complacent and get lazy. Who can name people that are on their school board?

[C]

I can't wait to be a member of my school board.

[A]

It's not like they're in charge of the minds of your kids or anything.

[C]

Yeah. It's not like you give these people six hours a day, five days a week time with your kids.

[D]

Brighton's in charges. I want to share. You shall listen to me. Like, okay, but stop it. It's wild because I don't think it's knowing your kids, teachers and then above that and then all. Everything that they can change, represent, hide, take care of is extremely important.

[A]

That's the crazy part. Like, I talked to multiple teachers that are fucking awesome. And know this is a problem and have been. Some of them have been talking about it for years and have been taken to court multiple times and tried. They've tried to fire them multiple times because they push back and fight against the corrupt school board and just nobody listens to them.

[D]

No.

[A]

And I feel there are really good teachers in Buffalo school district.

[C]

Hmm.

[A]

It's just some of the people that are elected in charge are pieces of shit.

[B]

Are they the ones that flip people off in zoom calls and then lie about it?

[A]

Nope, not those ones.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

They're the ones that are in the same sorority.

[A]

No, I'm saying the good ones.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Oh. The good ones.

[A]

Like, the good teachers that, like, have been trying to tell people that this is going on, but just nobody listens.

[B]

Like, because there was that one guy was the whistleblower, almost kind of like, hey, yeah, this is a known issue.

[A]

They tried to fire him three times. In my binder, I have the court documents where I think it was over a stabbing at the high school.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he tried to get them in trouble for it because he had went and told them, like, hey, this door doesn't work and it doesn't lock. And it, like, directly led to a stabbing at that school and, like, created an issue. And they retaliated against him. They put him. And he was the head of his department, I think it was like, social studies or history department. They put him on leave for over a year, I believe. And then all the other teachers in his department on leave and tried to fire the entire department. I think the other teachers in the department weren't on leave as long as he was, but he was on leave for like a year. Plus while they were in court fighting it out and the court system, I have the court documents where it was signed off on. Like, this dude literally did nothing wrong. You can't fucking fire him. What are you talking about?

[B]

Funny how groups like that always, you know, they're very quick to protect their own and, you know, circle the wagons and, oh, no, those are our guys. You can't fire them no matter what they did. Unless you go against the grain, unless you call them out for their bullshit, in that case, they'll leave you out to die.

[D]

Well, that's where I think that slush for. I'd almost say have a portion of that slush fund goes towards that. It's like, hey, if you have a school district that does fuck you, because it is terrifying. It's like, what am I going to do? That school board's going to Attack me. Oh, I can maybe rally a couple of parents behind me, but at the end of it, if I lose this job, I can't do anything. Now, if you have a backing and then you all understand, if you bring up kids, safety, anything like that, a lot more people will rally behind you than you think. And if we can help with that, then that's our job.

[B]

Be funny if we do, like. Cause, you know, we do the autism charity month. We do veteran charity month for unsub. We just add a third month into the rotation. That's just the war chest month.

[D]

Literally, we just keep a war chest. So we do dummies, dude, Literally

[B]

the pact. And specifically spend against people who are assholes like the D.A. like, that's a year.

[D]

One that just stays around and that. Can we just add into it throughout

[B]

the year, speak softly and carry a $300,000 threat.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Then they will be very. Oh, shit, I'm putting my job at risk for this. Oh, look how many people with social media, here's hundreds of thousands that will look at it. And then here is the funds to defend that to make an actual change. I like that idea a lot.

[C]

I think one of the changes that need to be made now, and I think it's an easy change to be made, is if I'm not mistaken, at this moment, the Buffalo Public Schools have all of their social media comments turned off.

[D]

Weird.

[C]

Which if you are a public body. Yeah, I believe, and I know that if you're representative of people like the president, can't turn off comments or block people.

[B]

If it's an official account. I think there was a Supreme Court case about it five to 10 years ago that says that that's illegal.

[C]

Official social media account, specifically. I know the Facebook one for the Buffalo Public Schools. They have all comments turned off, which you cannot do if I understand it legally.

[B]

I don't know about entities. I know for people, it's. It's a vibe.

[C]

How do you talk back and forth with people from your community that you represent if you turn off the comments?

[B]

Don't get me wrong, I think it's egregious either way. But, like, legally speaking, I don't know if it extends that far. But that's just because. I don't know.

[C]

I think that it's one of those things that it's a. A small.

[B]

I mean, our lawyer, just ask him, good news.

[A]

We're building a pact where we can sue bad politicians and just target shitty people also.

[B]

Jake, come here. Come here.

[C]

Can we do that on camera?

[B]

Real quick.

[D]

Got the.

[B]

You and I just got back from the polls.

[D]

Look at that.

[C]

There you go.

[D]

I vetoed. Nice, Tony.

[B]

I hear he's a great guy. Never been involved in scandals. Perfect voting record. Just real, real.

[C]

You should have signed to say, I vetoed Tony Gonzalez. I vetoed.

[B]

I fired him. Well, the people of Texas fired him. More more accurately, I. I assume. Anyway, I could get shellac tonight.

[A]

If you're not gonna. If you're not gonna sell this shirt, I will. Or maybe this can be the first war warchess pack shirt shirt. I. I fired Tony Gonzalez.

[B]

That would be great.

[C]

I'm.

[A]

Everybody that voted for Brandon gets to rock that shirt.

[C]

I think we need to start a pack, and, like, that's. We need to look into this. I fired Tony Gonzalez. I fired Representative Kelly Gonzalez.

[B]

No, I'm actually excited at the idea

[A]

the gang gets into politics.

[B]

Well, because not only is it, like, are we going to bring the Eye of Sauron with our autistic army behind us, but also now there's actual financial ramifications because it's like, you know, they can, you know, turn off their comments for a week or two and watch it die down, but now it's like, oh, no, fuck. I just. I'm in a district or an area or whatever, local community, where my Entire race was $100,000, and these people are looming over me with not only millions of viewers, but also that kind of money. I mean, like, that's a real threat to make people. And again, we're not doing it to, like, sway people to do the wrong thing. We're just holding people accountable, making them do their job.

[D]

That's it.

[C]

I think the first step for the Buffalo Public Schools, to push them in the right direction is to have the family step up and have them turn their comments back on. On all social media.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What a small win to show that we're taking this seriously. How can you hear us complain if you turn off the comments now?

[D]

Do a public school board.

[B]

Sorry, the question I was going to ask you, we were talking about the Supreme Court case that they decided a few years ago, where public officials cannot block their constituents or turn off comments and things like that. Does that extend to public entities like the Buffalo Public school system?

[D]

I don't know.

[B]

Honestly, that was my answer as well.

[C]

Federally, if you. If you could yell the DoD or DoW, and they can't block you. Yeah. I would assume that that could still be for smaller entities at the state and local level. Obviously, they limited to the state and local level. The People that they represent or that pay the taxes to keep that place going.

[B]

It would make sense, but I don't know the answer.

[D]

It depends on how it was litigated, ultimately, what avenue it took.

[C]

The gang goes to the Supreme Court.

[A]

No, it's legal because it's not specific. Essentially, if comments are turned off for everyone, it's legal, but they can't go and block specific individuals.

[B]

That makes sense.

[A]

So as long as they're treating everyone like shit equally, it's okay.

[C]

Which seems like that's what they're doing. Which is why I'm saying people of the city of Buffalo, rise up and have them turn their comments back on. How did they. Honestly, how did they do the public

[D]

board, but then closed it.

[A]

Honestly, If I was a parent in Buffalo Public Schools, here's what I would do. Because the only thing these people care about is money. And public schools are paid by having your kid in school. That's why they get super upset if you don't have an excused absence and do all their paperwork. And they want doctor's notes because if your kid misses so many days, they don't get funding from the government. So if I was a parent at Buffalo Public Schools, what I would do is I would get a bunch of other parents and I would organize school walkouts, which schools in America are really into right now. As long as it's for the correct political thing. They'll be super pissed about this one because it's about protecting kids and being held accountable to do their own job. They'll be. They'll be mad. But I would organize school walkouts so your kids just don't go to school every Monday all fucking year long until they fix their. And then they're not getting paid. That's what I would do.

[D]

Dude, a week walkout would fucking crucify.

[B]

Here's the thing, too.

[C]

Wednesday walkouts.

[D]

No, if you do rhymes, Monday, Tuesday,

[A]

Wednesday calls her happy.

[C]

It doesn't even need to be.

[A]

It doesn't even need to be everybody. Even if you got 20% of the school body to just like, no, I'm take. I'm. My kid's not coming in today.

[B]

They couldn't fight back against it without talking about the reason. Yep, that's. That's. That's the big one is they. They can't try to. The parents of these kids like, oh, well, this, this, this. If it's a, a lot of them, and B, they would have to say the reason that they're pro.

[A]

What are they gonna do, call the cops?

[C]

And not talk to us at all about anything.

[B]

It would be school. We get more school. Others.

[A]

It would be super weird if half of the Buffalo school kids didn't go to school and the school got mad and called the cops because the parents weren't having excused absences for school, which is illegal. So they called Buffalo or Buffalo Police Department, and the Buffalo Police Department said, no, no, no, you can't tell me who the kids are that aren't showing up because that would be a violation of ferpa. So you can't share that information with me. Sorry, you can't help you. Click.

[C]

See how that logic goes.

[A]

I mean, I'm correct, isn't it? They can't share that information with you. That's ferpa.

[C]

I mean, that's. That's their stance.

[A]

That's their interpretation of it.

[C]

That's their stance. I didn't say that. That's just using their legal jargon against them or I mean, with them. Because they. That's what they want. They want that. They want that.

[D]

I like that a lot.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Huh. I mean, that's what I would do if it was my kids.

[D]

I mean. Any other last pieces of advice, Mr. Richard, from what you're dealing with?

[C]

Yeah, this is.

[D]

That's a really good. That is what Nick has. Gold. You can replay that back a couple

[B]

times, man, the next time you get hurt. They're fucked up.

[A]

I'm planning on getting hurt right around November 2028. I got a date with somebody.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'll have a reelection.

[C]

The other thing is, I've unfortunately planned on the investigation not holding people accountable, so I have more information that I'll be sharing at a later date that I have to make sure is collected appropriately within my bounds as. As a citizen. And then I will be sharing that.

[B]

Man, I bet you hate it when your enemies are smart. Yeah.

[C]

Get ready for round two.

[D]

Five.

[C]

Well, yeah, listen, whatever round it is, get ready because it's going to upset you almost as much, if not more, because I told you about it already. It's gonna upset you a whole lot.

[B]

I'm gonna have to learn about this later.

[C]

I can tell you it in two minutes, the second the cameras turn off. And like it literally that fast. And you'll be like, oh, yeah.

[B]

Well, I mean, if it's the truth, it needs to come out.

[C]

Oh, it will. You'll be able to FOIA it. Yeah, 100. It's going to be something you'll be able to FOIA and get as soon as the request goes. Through. It should not be an issue.

[D]

And something. As a parent, when you hear this episode like, do something. Make a change. There's worse if you don't do something and then you hear that, you're like, I should have done it then. Yeah. Why did I wait?

[C]

Get involved now and allow this to snowball in a good way. Yep.

[D]

Brandon, Cody. Cody, Brandon.

[B]

We're just flooding together at this point.

[A]

Understand, Congressman Donut.

[D]

Yeah. Herrera operates.

[A]

Close us out.

[C]

Brandy Heronut.

[B]

Thank you guys for joining the unsubscribe podcast, AKA the Absolutely Foul Podcast. I was joined today by Eli Double Tap, Nick the Fat Electrician, Rich Angry Cops, and myself, Bronut Properator. Yeah, thank you guys so much, and we'll see you next time.

[D]

We love you.