The Fat Electrician Vs Tactically Acquired | Unsubscribe Podcast 267

Summary

Unsubscribe Podcast #267: The Fat Electrician Vs Tactically Acquired (June 7, 2026)

Host: Donut Operator
Guests: Eli Double Tap (The Fat Electrician), Chris Cappy (Cappy Army), Nick Davis (Tactically Acquired)
Theme: Military YouTube, History Content, Defense Current Events, and Content Creation

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Episode Overview

This episode brings together prominent military YouTubers and meme lords to talk shop about new military tech, the realities of producing content on military history, sharing audience and inspiration, and the ever-cyclical (and frequently ridiculous) nature of internet defense discourse. The group dives into the evolving military tech scene (hello XM25), operational drama (cartels, propaganda, recruiting Gen Z), classic military stories, and the struggles and joys of content creation and online community-building.

Expect military humor and hot takes, deep-dives into obscure tech, honest stories of creator hustle, and a strong current of camaraderie among guests who understand both the military and meme worlds.

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Main Topics & Segments

1. Meet the Panel & Military YouTube Origins

[01:16-04:32]

• The squad introduces each other with signature irreverence, referencing in-jokes and identities ("Black Nick," "White Nick").
• Nick (Tactically Acquired) explains how he started his channel inspired by Eli's Fat Electrician, unapologetically riffing on his style and channel focus.

  "I saw him doing something on YouTube. I was like, I could rip that off." – Nick, [20:47]

• Conversations on mutual support and paying it forward; helping the next crop of creators.

2. Internet Culture, Nostalgia & Economics

[04:32-06:59]

• Tangent about goth girls, economic indicators, and 90’s/00’s nostalgia as recession signals.

  "Whenever the goths start showing back up and baggy pants are in style, the economy is back." – Eli, [05:07] "As soon as the Juggalos become popular again, we've got like four minutes." – Eli, [05:31]

• Internet subcultures and their bizarre power as trend forecasters.

3. Current Events: Cartels, OnlyFans, and CIA Tactics

[07:17-13:00]

• Chris Cappy narrates U.S. counter-cartel operations in Mexico, the CIA's role, surgical strikes, and unique ops like tracking a cartel boss via OnlyFans metadata.

  "The way they killed El Mencho... the CIA triangulated his position based on going through metadata of him talking to this OnlyFans girl." – Chris, [09:38]

• Brief riffs on military tactics using social engineering (catfishing Russian soldiers) and internet literacy as a modern asymmetric advantage.

4. "Weaponized Internet": Propaganda, Open Internet, and Cultural Warfare

[13:00-17:43]

• Jokes and half-serious talk about defeating adversaries by giving them unrestricted internet access; referencing Russian and North Korean soldiers’ struggles with online freedom.

  “Let's give the enemy free Internet. What? Why? We're helping them. No, we're not.” – Eli, [14:55]

• The panel imagines themselves as ‘propaganda unit’ lieutenants leading YouTuber ‘goon squads.’

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5. Content Creation: Inspiration, Plagiarism, and Reviewing Each Other (“Steal Like an Artist”)

[20:47-39:40]

• Discussion about inspiration vs. copying in the YouTube mil-history niche, honest perspectives on repetition and origin stories.

  "That's great capitalism, dude." – Nick, [21:28] “Look, it is super easy to sit here and say like, oh, the ripping you off thing pisses me off the most because it's like, you have no idea what goes into making a video.” – Nick, [38:24]

• The hard slog of research, scripting, and editing:

  “Fucking 40 to 80 hours.” – Eli, on research per video, [39:11] “My research is shorter but I script my videos, so I eat up the rest of that time.” – Nick, [39:15]

• Challenges of fact-checking, especially for current events (Chris Cappy), compared to history (Eli and Nick).
• The grind pre- and post-YouTube ad revenue, changing platforms and what it takes to build a dedicated following today.

6. Recruiting Gen Z: Why No One Wants to Join

[63:50-66:32]

• Inside look at the struggle to recruit Gen Z into the military.

• The group laments what motivates young people (school shootings, COVID, not patriotism or hero stories).

  “Why did we quit highlighting these guys?... And then you wonder why all the kids today aren't proud to be an American.” – Eli, [60:11]

• Nick relates his time as a recruiter and ROTC instructor:

  “It was kind of hard to get some of these old timers to understand. These kids don't care about patriotism anymore... Only thing I could sell was education benefits or a skill job.” – Nick, [64:42]

7. Tech Tangents: The Army's XM25 & Modern Squad Doctrine

[77:27-90:44]

• Chris Cappy drops news of the Army reviving the XM25 “Punisher” grenade launcher, with the group nerding out on doctrine, technical details, and hilarious anecdotes about testing new weapons.

  “It really is like a sniper rifle grenade launcher. I was putting rounds at 300 meters consistently.” – Chris, [79:28] “I shot the drone into oblivion.” – Chris, [82:31]

• The tension between war crimes, Geneva Convention, contractor shenanigans, and the ever-present commenter outrage on YouTube.
• Comparison to Chinese military tech and social media’s habit of assuming “if America does it, others did it first.”

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8. Wars, Tactics & Geopolitics—Cynicism & Realism

[94:29-104:34]

• What keeps Cappy up at night? Strait of Hormuz, Iranian missile volleys, the limitations of missile defense, and the offensive-defensive cost imbalance.

  "You can't intercept every missile that's coming... the cost of a missile that's capable of intercepting a dumb unguided missile... they're going to bleed you dry." – Eli, [95:01] “Hearts and minds never win.” – Donut/Eli, [97:29]

• Frustrations with U.S. war-fighting doctrine: “Either do the thing or leave 'em alone.”
• Modern military missions and the disconnect with old-school "glorious" war.

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9. History’s Unsung (and Forgotten) War Heroes

[110:12-120:36]

• Favorite stories: Nick champions Ron Terry, “Father of the Gunship” and the bureaucracy-busting legend of Ching Lee (American WWII naval innovation).

  “He had a custom rubber stamp made that was frantic. And he used red ink.” – Eli, [115:39]

• Celebrating moments where individuals pushed through bureaucracy and changed the course of warfare (e.g., the rise of the Gunship, proximity fuzes).
• Reflections on what U.S. collaboration, manufacturing, and national spirit looked like during WWII vs. now; why we’ve lost “shared projects” (and a little dark humor about Manifest Destiny and “national projects”).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “People are going to look back one day on my videos and be like, wow, he really... have you seen Hitler too?” – Chris Cappy, reflecting on risk of getting current events wrong, [40:23]
• “The best endorsement I can give—it's the best promo for these, we all wore them before we sought them out as a sponsor.” – On sponsor shirts, [67:08]
• “You have a good. That I think that's one of the keys is having that strong dedicated community or audience that then rally behind you.” – Donut Operator on audience loyalty, [40:56]
• "That's capitalism, dude." – Nick (Tactically Acquired) on unashamedly stealing inspiration, [21:28]
• "I would love nothing more than to pitch giving the enemy free Internet and iPads to a room full of generals." – Eli, on weaponizing digital culture, [17:31]

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Key Timestamps

• [01:16] – Main introductions
• [09:38] – How the CIA tracked a cartel boss via OnlyFans
• [14:55] – Imagining “weaponizing” free internet against adversaries
• [20:47-23:59] – Origins of Tactically Acquired
• [39:11] – How many hours to make a single video?
• [63:50-66:32] – Military recruiting and Gen Z’s shifting motivations
• [77:27-90:00] – Army tech deep-dive: XM25's revival and testing
• [110:12-120:36] – Hall-of-fame war stories: Gunship inventor, military innovations, WWII nostalgia

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Finale: Where to Find Them

[136:24]

• Nick: YouTube, Tactically Acquired
• Chris: Cappy Army on YouTube
• Eli: The Fat Electrician
• Donut Operator: Host, prolific content hub

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Tone & Language

The episode retains its signature irreverent, meme-heavy, but knowledge-dense flavor—think military barroom with expert banter, inside jokes (“Black Nick”), and sharp skepticism for bureaucracy, media narratives, and The System. The group is candid about the grind and joy of being a content creator, the value of honesty in giving credit, and the fun of digging into military history with a modern lens.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t listened, this episode is a tapestry of current military events, hilarious personal stories, and YouTube creator hustle. You’ll come out entertained, a little more cynical, but definitely better briefed on why memes and military history overlap so well—and why your favorite YouTubers are basically running the next-gen “propaganda” shop.

Transcript

[Donut Operator]

When you finally find your thing, you want the whole world to know about that thing. So you use a thing called Canva

[Eli Double Tap]

to make it an even bigger and better thing.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Whether you want to create flyers for

[Eli Double Tap]

that thing, make presentations for that thing, or design merch for that thing.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

You can do anything so people can

[Donut Operator]

see your thing, feel your thing, love your thing.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

The next thing you know, it's a thing.

[Donut Operator]

Canva, the thing that makes anything a thing.

[Chris Cappy]

The army's trying to bring back the XM25.

[Donut Operator]

Hell yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Should have never been canceled in the first place.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

We're only at a level two on the races. We gotta get those numbers inward.

[Eli Double Tap]

What?

[Chris Cappy]

They jerked themselves off to death.

[Donut Operator]

They became like the 55th Gooning Brigade. I made such a good shirt. Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguous. Brandon, his hair is fucking fabulous.

[Chris Cappy]

Donut.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

And there's a fat electrician.

[Donut Operator]

Welcome to unsubscribe.

[Chris Cappy]

Doctors, doctors.

[Donut Operator]

Everyone.

[Chris Cappy]

Ready?

[Donut Operator]

3, 2, 1.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribed podcast. I'm joined here today by Eli Double Tap. Chris Cappy from Cappy Army. Nick Davis from Tactically Acquired. And I am Donut Operator. Donut.

[Donut Operator]

What an amazing intro. Black Nick, great to meet you.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

It's good to meet you, man. It's not the first time we met.

[Donut Operator]

I know.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

It's good shit.

[Donut Operator]

We met in the. Actually, the bus on the way back

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

from Grandcha and we got to nerd out on cameras.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, I know. Black Nick, great to meet you. White Nick, great to meet you. Hi. God, it's like looking in a mirror.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

It's very.

[Donut Operator]

Swings. It's like.

[Chris Cappy]

It's uncanny.

[Donut Operator]

I love how we were just super stoked. I mean, super happy you're here. I'm very stoked you're here. This is just gonna be a nerd autism episode of War History. Got a lot of questions for you.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh, God.

[Donut Operator]

And then our boy Nick over here.

[Eli Double Tap]

How was it?

[Donut Operator]

How was filming last night?

[Eli Double Tap]

It was good. It was fine. I got blood all over me. It washed out, though, except for on my boots, which, you know, thankfully, they were like, new a week ago. So that works out

[Chris Cappy]

typical.

[Donut Operator]

So you did what? What were you filming yesterday?

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, we had a skit for the new pepper box thing. Majig. I had an idea. I've been. I've talked about it before. This is the same skit I've talked about forever. It's like, the concept is like, red Dawn, China invades. Paratroopers come down, whatever. Me and, like, a couple other American soldiers get captured we're getting interrogated. And then I'm not gonna say exactly how it happens, but basically the Chinese are very excited about their upcoming offensive because they believe that the area that they're going to be invading next is going to be a lot easier than the combat they've seen so far because this area of the country has the strictest gun laws. And then we're all tied up with like blood all over us. And then the Asian guy's like, it's called Chicago. And we just all start dying laughing. Like the safest place.

[Donut Operator]

Easy. It's called Chicago. Doing a Japanese accent for the Chinese people, but whatever.

[Eli Double Tap]

Potato, potato.

[Donut Operator]

I, I'm. Dude, I'm so stoked.

[Chris Cappy]

I thought New Jersey was going to catch a stray with that one.

[Donut Operator]

It's never too late.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's never a stray when it comes to New Jersey. It was intentional, an aimed shot.

[Donut Operator]

A well placed.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're not catching strays. You were, you were catching what was thrown.

[Chris Cappy]

The pitcher. Pitcher's aiming there.

[Donut Operator]

Hell yeah. Well, I'm fucking stoked for that. Oh yeah, we got the new Double Tap T. Came out what, two weeks ago now. And then is the new one out. We have Goth Girl Spit. Should be a launching. Also today when you watch this, which is the most wild energy drink, it's pretty rad. It's really dope cover.

[Chris Cappy]

It's called Goth Girl Spit. Yes, yes. It brings back memories. It reminds me of high school. Yeah, yeah,

[Donut Operator]

yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

That no one else went through a goth girl phase.

[Donut Operator]

No, that's DJ just dressed up one like one.

[Chris Cappy]

That was a different phase.

[Eli Double Tap]

That was college.

[Donut Operator]

I just keep cappies of goth.

[Chris Cappy]

In high school I had a little bit of a thing for the goth women. Yeah, there's something very dark about them. Yes, yes, exactly. Then that the low self esteem I guess is kind of what allowed me to get in there in the first place.

[Donut Operator]

Why target him? They were my prey. They were weak. That it is. Didn't that face stop for like 10 or 20 years?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's a economic recession indicator. This, this is my going theory.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Wait.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Whenever the goths start showing back up and baggy pants are in style, the economy is back.

[Chris Cappy]

Well, it's coming back again now.

[Eli Double Tap]

I know. That's what I'm saying. The housing market's going to crash in any minute. We've got three years. Like I saw a pair of Jean Co's for the first time in 15 years. The other day I was like that's not fucking good. I'm about to short real estate.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Topics blowing up. Oh, no.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm telling you right now, as soon as the Juggalos become popular again, we've got like four seat. We've got four minutes.

[Chris Cappy]

If you see parties out in the woods and like a dim fire somewhere and they're all chanting their Juggalo shit, you know, it's time. You know, it's. The days are numbered.

[Donut Operator]

This is trails. Oh, Juggles. We love you, y'.

[Eli Double Tap]

All.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

It's a hell of a theory.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just saying. I mean, history repeats itself. Although I did have the. The I'm toot my own horn here. I. I made the greatest call of all time on Twitter last year, and it came true. It was creepy. Which One was in 2024, in, like November or like early 2025, there was an article that orcas are wearing fish on their heads again, which. A phenomenon that we haven't seen since. I forget. The year was like 1985 or whatever it was. And I was like, 1985. Orcas are wearing fish on their heads. The president is a Republican former TV celebrity. The US Navy destroys all of Iran's Navy. And then I was like, 2025, the orcas are wearing fish on their heads. The president is a Republican former celebrity. And then six months later, we destroyed Iran's Navy. I was like, yeah, it was the greatest call of all time, being a great kalsha bet.

[Chris Cappy]

It really does feel like the 80s is coming back again.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, we're all.

[Chris Cappy]

We're back in south in South America again, meeting countries there, doing basically a Panama version 2 electric bugaloo.

[Eli Double Tap]

We should take it back.

[Donut Operator]

All of it. Opinion.

[Eli Double Tap]

We should take back Panama. I'm just saying I'm for it.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I think less people think that's unpopular. I think they don't want to say it out loud.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, no, no. We dug the giant trench. It's ours.

[Donut Operator]

Yes. Just saying, how is now with. Or I guess on your side, because that's what you deep dive into. What are you seeing with the cartel and then the U.S. so you just did a video on kidnapping or assassinating

[Chris Cappy]

the cartel stuff is crazy. They just. So CIA ground branch is in Mexico right now just murking dudes, just blowing up cartel vehicles. They have it on camera. Yeah. So I'm flipping through Instagram the other day, and this. This video comes up and, you know, casually, a car explodes, and then it says, you know, U.S. officials say that they have CIA paramilitary in Mexico killing cartel bosses. It's fucking wild.

[Donut Operator]

Hell yeah. Right? Hell yeah. So this is like 70s, 80s. This is what we did, right?

[Chris Cappy]

Well the beautiful thing about the 80s and Latin America was that we were just everywhere.

[Eli Double Tap]

We were.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. The CIA had like death squads everywhere in El Salvador. They were just killing fields of bodies. And we're back at it again, you know. Cause every time you go back, you gotta mow the grass every once in a while. And Mexicans doing it smarter now. We're doing it a little bit smarter. Instead of.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Instead of like wholesale killing and arming groups that might. Might have blowback. Just go. And they take out one cartel boss. Then yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

A little more surgical is over here playing Guess who Sicario.

[Donut Operator]

Which is crazy. You have a. Some of those bosses, they don't even know what they look like. I always find that fascinating. They hid themselves that well throughout their life that they just don't have pictures of them.

[Chris Cappy]

Like you want to hear a hilarious story of how they killed El Mencho in so El Mancha was the biggest cartel boss in Mexico. They killed him like two months ago. And the way they did it was the CIA frickin Because they don't know what. What he still looks like. He might have gotten facial reconstructive surgery.

[Eli Double Tap]

We don't know what he looks like.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

But they do know

[Eli Double Tap]

after the drone hits. Bad news. We still don't know what he looked like.

[Donut Operator]

He's definitely one of those five bodies they went through.

[Chris Cappy]

He was meeting up with an Onlyfans chick and they triangulated his position based on going through the metadata of him talking to this Onlyfans girl to have her come and meet him.

[Eli Double Tap]

We don't know what this guy looks like. I bet he likes. We can figure it out.

[Donut Operator]

One thing we are for sure on and that they just blow up the fuck like how did that raid go down?

[Chris Cappy]

So the great thing about the way we do operations a little bit smarter now is we work through, by, with and through. We work through the Mexican military. So they send in the Mexican marines to kill everybody and they advise it.

[Donut Operator]

Oh no shit.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

So some still like hey, we're not doing it. I mean it's like the end of Iraq where it's like hey is taking over or these little communities handoff.

[Chris Cappy]

We've it's exactly that. We took the Iraq Afghanistan model and we're just applying it to Mexico.

[Donut Operator]

It worked really good both times. Especially when we left.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, I don't remember a single problem with that.

[Eli Double Tap]

I sent you something that's. That's what the CIA was like as soon as the only fans girl showed up.

[Donut Operator]

You're gonna make me.

[Eli Double Tap]

Cowabunga, dude.

[Donut Operator]

What the. How I'm surprised they're still doing that tactic though. It's like, this hasn't worked yet. So what's going to change this time if we'll back them?

[Eli Double Tap]

I mean, not to address the. The whore in the room, but is the onlyfans girl okay?

[Chris Cappy]

You know, I don't actually know. Yeah, I don't think she died. I don't know for sure for certain, but hopefully.

[Donut Operator]

Did she know anything this was going on.

[Eli Double Tap]

Two girls, one drone.

[Donut Operator]

She didn't even know her.

[Chris Cappy]

To the like, lake house in.

[Eli Double Tap]

Talk about an asset.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. I'm gonna go see this guy. Here's my location. Just make sure. Call me in five minutes. Calls back in five minutes. Doesn't answer then. Trying to explain that to anyone after the fact. How'd your date go?

[Eli Double Tap]

People, bodies everywhere. That's the future of warfare is just exploiting dudes trying to get laid. That's what the Ukrainians were doing to the Russians. Yes, that's what they were all getting on there, pretending to be hot girls on Instagram. And we've done this every time.

[Donut Operator]

World war, like Cold war.

[Eli Double Tap]

I know. It's just so much easier now with cell phones because, like, they were literally getting all the Russian soldiers to be like, messaging these girls on Instagram and they're like, oh, when are you coming through my town? Maybe we can meet up. Blah, blah, blah. And they're like, oh, my unit will be there in three days. Now they're tracking troop movements because some dude's trying to get laid.

[Chris Cappy]

They're sending like high Mars fucking US Provided missiles right to their coordinates based on that. It's wild.

[Donut Operator]

And it doesn't matter if you tell them not to do this because it's dudes. And when you see even the catfish, the guys that get catfished, and you're like, oh, like, doesn't matter how obvious this is a ploy. They're going to fall for it. Well, yeah, I'm going to meet her in two years. She needed me to pay me.

[Chris Cappy]

It's easy for me to laugh at them, but I. If I'm a Russian soldier, I would hunt. And I'm like 20 years old, 100% sure I'm gonna get missiled. I'm gonna match with that chick and be like, yeah, I'm gonna be here tomorrow.

[Eli Double Tap]

The other unfair part that, like, I. I don't think I've ever Seen anybody bring this. This aspect up. Whereas, like, if we actually did go to war with Russia or China or any of these adversaries, our troops have a massive advantage at spotting bullshit because of Internet literacy, because they've dealt with it their whole lives because we have unrestricted Internet. Oh, imagine us trying to fuck with Chinese soldiers that strict censored Internet their entire lives. They're falling for level one scams out of the gate because they've never seen it before. You know what I mean?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. It's like no different than what North Korea with. When they got access to the Internet.

[Eli Double Tap]

Tell me more.

[Donut Operator]

When they first got access to the Internet, North Korean soldiers out of Russia.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

And they, like, they jerked themselves off to death.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

They were.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, they just went on a masturbation.

[Chris Cappy]

They became like, the 55th gooning brigade.

[Donut Operator]

That's such a good shirt. The 55th gooning. Dude. They had to, like, cut phone, restrict. They, like, started restricting phones because they're like, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Chris Cappy]

They sent the North Koreans to Kursk and they couldn't handle it.

[Donut Operator]

They couldn't.

[Chris Cappy]

It was taking them out more than the Ukrainians. Oh, my God. But like, okay, so much proof on this.

[Eli Double Tap]

All unique.

[Chris Cappy]

If World War III happens.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm sorry. It's literally like. Like, when, you know, the colonists or whatever come over and they're like, our immune system can't handle these new diseases.

[Donut Operator]

Boom. It's that.

[Eli Double Tap]

But it's the Internet. Like, that's what it is.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

They're evading more of a disease.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Donut Operator]

They're invading.

[Eli Double Tap]

What do we do?

[Donut Operator]

Turn on the Internet. Give it free open Internet.

[Eli Double Tap]

We don't need nukes. We have star.

[Donut Operator]

We just hand out cell phones.

[Eli Double Tap]

Let's give the enemy free Internet. What? Why? We're helping them. No, we're not.

[Donut Operator]

Drop some iPads, some phones, and free Internet has the password on the back for the WI fi connect. Here, do this picture of underneath it. Have you ever woken up and felt

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[Eli Double Tap]

I can't talk. It says no Nick on the.

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Chris Cappy]

I just. I want. When that big war happens, I want to be part of that. That propaganda unit. Oh, bro, that like. You know how they. They basically knighted a bunch of Silicon Valley dudes and they made them.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, I was there for that. Oh, so I was there, right? I was in the room when it happened.

[Chris Cappy]

And they made them generals or some shit.

[Eli Double Tap]

Lieutenant colonels.

[Chris Cappy]

Yep. Okay, so I wanted them to make us like lieutenant colonels of the propaganda

[Eli Double Tap]

brigade so that we're calling in a group of specialists just completely goon squad of YouTubers walking in. Trust me, slow motion.

[Chris Cappy]

I trip.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's like Monsters Inc. When the scarers are walking into the room in slow motion. Yep.

[Donut Operator]

The lieutenant colonel things. We have no idea anything about that.

[Eli Double Tap]

We, we, we need experts in propaganda. I got you.

[Chris Cappy]

I know a guy.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, we could do some damage real fast.

[Eli Double Tap]

I would love nothing more than to pitch giving the enemy free Internet and iPads to a room full of generals. I know this sounds crazy. They're gonna jerk themselves off to death. I promise.

[Donut Operator]

You promise? Where is Daredevil? A minor.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So what's next?

[Donut Operator]

I feel liberated.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

We're gonna take this city back over

[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

They're hunting us.

[Donut Operator]

It's time we started hunting them. I can work with them.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

They're going to die.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're an officer. How would you respond to that pitch?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh yeah, it's all about marketing. What do I get out of this?

[Chris Cappy]

Sir, we're gonna need $37 million for this mission.

[Eli Double Tap]

We came up on an entire company. Looked like they'd just been drained of life. I don't know what happened.

[Donut Operator]

Did it suck you out?

[Eli Double Tap]

Mummify an entire army?

[Donut Operator]

There's tissues everywhere. No casings. It's just tissue. Watted tissues. What is this?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Did you see where grounds is? See where I was?

[Donut Operator]

Yes.

[Chris Cappy]

Our morale patch is just like the sploosh emoji.

[Donut Operator]

It's just the sploosh. The three drops. Yes.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

You can do like skill badges. Like, you level up. Like basic branch.

[Donut Operator]

Keep going.

[Chris Cappy]

Expert splooge.

[Eli Double Tap]

God.

[Donut Operator]

That's a skit by itself. Just walking up, turning around, vomiting. What happened here? Don't go in. You don't want to see. Is that slow? Like walk in one guy's like turning just drained.

[Eli Double Tap]

Whatever you do, don't put your nods on. You'll go blind. There's gone everywhere.

[Donut Operator]

Was this a concentration camp? No. Just jerk themselves off to this level.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's fucking. The archaeologists are digging up the bones. Like whatever career field this man had. He really used his right arm a lot more. You can tell by the bone density on his right side.

[Chris Cappy]

The lack of calcium. Frank.

[Donut Operator]

Archaeologists just. This room is. Dude. Side by side with a square object. We have no idea what happened. They seem to be grasping at something to save their lives while also grasping their penis.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Sir.

[Chris Cappy]

Why are they in a circle with each other?

[Eli Double Tap]

They all.

[Chris Cappy]

What are they doing there?

[Donut Operator]

Limp biscuit. A rich one. What's that from the. Oh, I'm glad you guys are here. Black Nick. Why do we call you Black Nick, by the way? Actually, introduce yourself. I need you guys to tell your story. Like, story time.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah. So Tactically Acquired. Name's Nick. I saw him doing something on YouTube. I was like, I could rip that off. So.

[Donut Operator]

I love you so much.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

And I was like, that was it. Had to wade through all the people talking shit. And now here we are sitting next to the OG Nick.

[Eli Double Tap]

I thought it was funny, so I brought him here. He even named his channel Tactically Acquired. Because he stole my shit.

[Donut Operator]

I know. He's always spoke so positive of you. He's like, hey, you guys see this dude? We should have him on. Like, we looked at your guy. I was like, yeah, if you're down. He's like, yeah, he's fucking really good. But his name's Nick, he's black, and he does exactly my thing. And he admits to what he does.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's funny.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

That's great capitalism, dude.

[Donut Operator]

It's so much better to do that, because a lot of the times then you're honoring that person because you're like, I love what you did. And it inspired me to do the same thing. Yeah. And then there is enough Internet.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah. What's crazy is it's coming full circle because, like, he helped me out, and I've got a guy who reached out to me, and I'm helping him out. That guy I told you about that you met at the live show.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

That's awesome, dude. Oh, can you scoot your chair forward just a smidge?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

No, no, no.

[Donut Operator]

There we go. Making sure those mics are good.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, my whole thing was I was like. I watched one of his videos, and I was like. Because I was gonna do a video on. I think it was Chuck.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Chuck.

[Eli Double Tap]

And I was like, every time I go to do a video, like, I'll do all my research, and then I'll go through and I'll watch all or Most of the YouTube videos on YouTube about that person just to, like, read the comments. Because the comments, like, if they fucked anything up, the comments let them know. So it's like, I don't want to make the same mistake. Or the comments will be like, I can't believe you didn't talk about this. I'll be like, well, what the is that? Sometimes it's a real thing that should be talked about. Sometimes it's just, like, a rumor, whatever. So, like, it gives me all the. Like, I don't want to Want to give the most of the story or whatever. So I go to look at this Chuck Muaney, and there's, like, three videos on him, and one of them is by him. And I watch his video. I was like, this motherfucker hit every talking point that I would have hit. This is bullshit. I just didn't even do the video after that. The first time it's ever happened. Because every time I go to do a video on a war hero, it's like, okay, here's the first one. Here's five other YouTubers that just watched that guy's video and regurgitated what he said. And it's just obvious. It's like, okay, you read the Wikipedia page, and that's it. You didn't go read the fucking book. You didn't do any research whatsoever. And it's like, he was the first other YouTuber I'd ever come across. It was like, God damn it. This motherfucker knows what he's talking about. Pisses me off. So then I, like, reached out, and then Started working with him more.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Well, he commented on that video I was driving down. Shouldn't text him. Don't text and drive.

[Eli Double Tap]

N word.

[Donut Operator]

What? Like

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Nick is the N word. So what you meant. I'm picking up what you went down. I got it. No, like I don't know.

[Eli Double Tap]

How have I not come up with the Nick is the N word joke yet? How have I not come up with that?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

We're only at a level two on the racism. We gotta get those numbers. Okay. No, like it just popped up on my YouTube studio like, you know, fat electrician comment. And I'm just reading this. The most hyped I've ever been. Just ever.

[Eli Double Tap]

I bet he saw. Then I held. This guy's gonna be really good or really bad. Yeah, I'm sure there was that feeling at first.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Dude, the comment section, people talking on someone else's behalf, like ripping off phallic. I have them on my phone. I've saved. I used to save all the negative comments like David Goggins style just looking at them. I still have them in my phone.

[Donut Operator]

You guys are wild for that.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I love it. It motivates me 100%. Temu. David Goggins.

[Chris Cappy]

When did you get originally into like World War II history stuff? Was it from watching Nick's videos or was it like an old school history channel?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So I've been trying to do something entrepreneur wise for like 10 years and everything builds and builds and builds. That's how I learned about cameras and shit. I used to do like fidget spinners and that's how I got into cameras and just all kinds of random stuff. Drop shipping fidget spinners, you say naturally

[Chris Cappy]

a good open door for cameras.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I got into fidget spinners like right, like before they got hyped up.

[Donut Operator]

And I was the only black dude that used a fidget spinner.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I was selling them.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was selling.

[Donut Operator]

I'm trying to think. I was like, I've never seen a black dude be like,

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

first of all, first of all. Now you have.

[Donut Operator]

I like, I was your like fidget spinners, entrepreneurial journey.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

And you're like this look, they were the hot. Cause they were those fidget cubes. Like when they first came out the fidget, I was like, man, what's the next thing? It's fidget spinner. So I got them from. How's Trump say it? China went China.

[Eli Double Tap]

China.

[Chris Cappy]

Wait, wait. This is how you got into World War II.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh no, no.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, of course it's a circle. Not like fucking. I told my wife I Wouldn't cuss. All right, anyway, why?

[Eli Double Tap]

He's gonna cuss.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

That's bad. There's number one. No, like. So I started a YouTube channel with my wife. It was a baking channel, and then she didn't want to do that anymore. So then I was doing like, a.

[Eli Double Tap]

Sonny got a divorce.

[Donut Operator]

He's like, if you don't come on YouTube with me, why did I. Come on. It's over, babe. They deleted the episode. Wild. I don't know what happened. Don't watch it.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I don't know what happened. It was going good, and then it wasn't. But then I did my own channel. I was trying to do, like, the whole motivational crap or whatever, and I didn't know what to do next. And then my wife, she said, stop trying to separate your military job from a business. Just lean into it. And that's when I ran across your stuff, and I was like, this doesn't suck. I really like this. So then I got into it.

[Donut Operator]

I like, this doesn't suck.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, dude, I'm stealing it. Yeah. 100.

[Donut Operator]

So instead of bicycles, I was like, we'll see how long that joke takes.

[Chris Cappy]

That register just registered

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

what's.

[Donut Operator]

Well, you're in military, too. So, like, as you're saying, you. You did, officer.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And then how long were you in? What? Can you go in depth? How much depth can you show some respect?

[Eli Double Tap]

This is major black neck.

[Donut Operator]

Thank you for your service.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

You're welcome.

[Donut Operator]

Like, it's Brandon's seat, too. Only the highest ring goes there.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Is that what I'm feeling right now? Yeah, just emanating from this chair.

[Eli Double Tap]

You should run for congress,

[Chris Cappy]

Black Brandon.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh, don't make that a thing. No, man, I did all my stuff backwards. I went to college first, and then I went to. Let me back up a little bit. Girl I was dating for a long time. Thought I was gonna marry this girl. We broke up. She had two things that she didn't want me to do. Join the military, get tattoos.

[Eli Double Tap]

This is the one with the cooking channel, right?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

This was before that.

[Donut Operator]

This was before that.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, but it was just interesting. It was like, as soon as you broke up, I was like, well, I'm getting a tattoo. I'm joining the milit.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, that.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, I just immediately went to do that.

[Donut Operator]

What were you going to college for?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Mechanical engineering. Damn. Yeah, so I used to. I used to be a mechanical engineer before. Before I went military full time. I'm not smart enough to be a mechanical engineer by the Way, dude.

[Donut Operator]

That's crazy to me. Way smarter than me. That's the Bezos.

[Chris Cappy]

And you're an engineer, right? In the military?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, engineer officer. So I went into a different type of engineer. Yeah, well, I wanted to blow stuff up. I just wanted to be a 12 Bravo. I wanted to go hunt IED. That's what I wanted to do.

[Donut Operator]

No shit.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

And I hand the guy my paperwork. Fun fact, the guy put me in the recruiter. He's still a friend of mine, but I hand him my paperwork and he's like, oh, you have a four year degree? Ever thought about being an officer? I was like, I guess. I don't know. What does that entail? You got to go to Fort Benning. Okay. Had no idea what I was getting into. None.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, that's again, an engineer's.

[Eli Double Tap]

It fascinates me just the luck of the draw with the military shit. Because we've interviewed so many, like Delta CAG, like tier one operators that have done crazy shit. And 80% of the time it's always, I had no idea. The recruiter asked if I wanted to be a Navy seal in the 1980s. Had no idea what that was. Anyways, I Halo jumped out of a plane and saved Captain Phillips.

[Donut Operator]

Like, he did not know what a Navy SEAL was like. He was like, I didn't know his heel was. I thought it sounded cool, though.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's like. They showed me a video of them like doing some dirt bikes and cool. And I was like, yeah, it looks fun. Like fast forward 15 years. He's tier one delta operator.

[Donut Operator]

It's like Dev grew and he's. Terry's the one that. He did one of the shots, you know, on the. Yes. The boat.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's.

[Donut Operator]

That's. He was in command of the boat

[Eli Double Tap]

is so funny, cuz. Terry's like, I just. Halo jumped into the ocean and board this boat. And they're like, okay, you're the captain now. He's like, what? I don't know what the. I don't know how to captain a ship. Like, I'm here to shoot somebody.

[Donut Operator]

They thought because Navy, they're like, obviously he knows boats.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, they're like, sailor, what do you want us to do? Set a heading?

[Donut Operator]

I don't know, go right.

[Chris Cappy]

I mean, starboard.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I mean, I know some of those nautical terms.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, man.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So you did

[Donut Operator]

Nate or. Sorry, army or. Yeah, Army. And then you just recruiters like, oh, okay, you're gonna go to Benning, go through leadership course. Yeah. Did you have to go to Ranger?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

No. So the only ones that have to do in the officer world, armor and infantry officers have to go through engineers. We have sapper.

[Donut Operator]

Did you go through sapper?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So I had orders to go to sapper school when I was at. So our version of AIT is called Bollock Basic Officer Leader Course. And I went to Ebolik at Fort Leonardwood. I had orders to go, but I could not figure out how to manage my knee pain back then. So I just dropped out. I was like, I'm not going to go.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, a lot of the schools, it looks cool on paper. If you're staying in, you're trying to climb the ranks, but yeah, if that's not the overall goal.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Well, really, the reason I wanted to go is I wanted to learn more. The advanced demo or sapper school. But then fast forward a few years. That book is public domain. Like the sapper book. Along with the. There's an improvised explosive book that's also, like, out there now too. And I was like, oh, so I don't have to go to sapper school to learn this stuff?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, but what if you could do it really tired and hungry? That's about what most of that training is.

[Donut Operator]

All training is that I can do this. But can you do it on two hours of sleep for a week?

[Eli Double Tap]

Starving while you're constipated and hungry at the same time?

[Donut Operator]

And all your friends are judging you and grading you at the same time while we yell at you? I think. I don't know. Why am I doing this? Actually, we want to know you can handle the stress.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

We have no need to ever be that tired. We don't walk anywhere. We're armor. We don't walk anywhere.

[Chris Cappy]

So there's no point. Mechanized. Mechanized is the way to go.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, crunchies. I was happy to get in vehicles anytime we got the opportunity. It's like, do you want to walk back or do you want to hop in a vehicle? Does it have ac? Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

I want my seat. I have my special seat. That's mine.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hey, you ever just wake up and

[Donut Operator]

felt like your mattress sucks and it beat your ass, punched you in the face?

[Eli Double Tap]

That's crazy.

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Way to make it real, Brandon.

[Donut Operator]

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[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Don't love it. Send that back.

[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

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[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

What are we doing?

[Eli Double Tap]

What are we doing?

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[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

This is a threat.

[Donut Operator]

So you military, how long did you do that for?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Total? Oh, I'm still in. So I'm, I'm agr. I'm active duty guard. Which all that means is we have the same active duty requirements but we do it with like a quarter less of the staff.

[Donut Operator]

Okay.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So like like an S1 shop in active duty might have, I don't know, 10 people in it. We have three.

[Donut Operator]

No. Oh yeah. I, I, so after I got in the military I did a, I was going to do a job reclass so I didn't get called back. I was like dude, every, all my friends are getting called back. So I was like okay, I'm going to turn down sorry and then I'll get out. And then I just, I think three or four of my friends at that time and already got called back in that like two months after I've been out. I was like oh shit, they're calling back everyone right now. So I was like okay, let me see what options I have. And I was like oh I can do welding. I Can just reclass as a welder for active or in a guard.

[Eli Double Tap]

Eli, flipping through the job book, I think we're talking. Well, it's like drywall with metal. I'm in

[Donut Operator]

mower, lawn mower, Lawn mower. Oh, it's welding instead of drywall.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's metal.

[Donut Operator]

Got this all day. So did that basic and again it was that I had to go to school for it, which was the easiest. I love that school. I was like, okay, this is dope. Then went to my unit and it's as you're saying, like, tiny. Tiny.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And I can't wait for the comment section now. Eli. Eli just said welding was easy on the Internet. They're gonna hate you.

[Donut Operator]

I don't lay corridors. It's like someone threw change on the steel and that's it.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Stacking, loose change. I love it.

[Donut Operator]

So did that. Then showed up to the unit. I was like, okay, this is nice and chill because everyone. There was like one dude that was a who. There was like an E6 and he was just trying to be very who. And I was like, oh, calm down. Don't. Yeah, please don't.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Guard's a totally different vibe. Yeah, it's totally different vibe.

[Donut Operator]

Okay, so that's what you're doing. And how long have you done that for now?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I've been in the guard 13 years, but I've been agr like 4 or 5.

[Donut Operator]

No shit.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Something like that.

[Donut Operator]

It's awesome.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I just, like, I volunteered to go. Thought I'd do something cool. But we just went to Kuwait.

[Eli Double Tap]

So, you know, you know how I met him? Like, actually met him. Like, we talked through the Internet before fluff hits me up one day. He's like, yeah, guess what? I just ran into Nick from tactically acquired because they live in the same area. They just bumped into each other.

[Donut Operator]

That's fucking wild.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I've tried to get Chad GPT to run the numbers on the statistics.

[Donut Operator]

340 million people. And then you just go like this. Now they're both going to walk here at the same time.

[Eli Double Tap]

I have. I have one editor and he happens to run into him in person.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yes.

[Chris Cappy]

That's astronomical.

[Donut Operator]

So you run into him and then you're like, oh, we'll hang out. Yeah, it's so weird. So you go through that and then at the same time, that's when you're like, oh, I'm going to do YouTube, Instagram Reels. Tik tok or.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah. So talking about when I decided to start the channel.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Well, so looking at his back Catalog of what I could rip off first. So I was like,

[Donut Operator]

yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

By the way, there's so many people that do this and do not are not open about it. So

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

you've gotta have a starting point to learn.

[Chris Cappy]

It's an inspiration.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

You have to learn people.

[Donut Operator]

Don't reinvent the fucking wheel. Sorry. That is the dumbest thing you can do.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Look, it is super easy to sit here and say like, oh, you just. The ripping you off thing pisses me off the most because it's like, you have no idea what it goes into making a video.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, no, no. God no.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

It's like the dude I was talking to, I'm trying to help out. I said, well, you know, how long do you want your videos to be? Said I was thinking, like, a little bit shorter, like 45 minutes. And I said, do you have editing experience? He said, no. I said, you might want to temper your expectations, like, a lot.

[Donut Operator]

You get it because you do camera and editing and you know the entire process and it is time consuming, especially when you start getting 45 minute videos an hour. Videos, like research alone. How much time do you guys spend it? Like, even with you, it's like, how much time do you guys spend per episode?

[Eli Double Tap]

Fucking 40 to 80 hours.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, it's. So I think my research is. I think my research is shorter than that. But I eat up the rest of that time because I script my videos.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah, he does. I do not.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, I don't have that. What was that word you used?

[Eli Double Tap]

I just have memory.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I did it or something. Like, it's got that tism. It's got that tisum brain.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I can't. I ain't got it like that.

[Donut Operator]

Dang. And then Cappy was you, like.

[Chris Cappy]

Well, combined with all the people that work on the videos, it's a lot of hours. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Because everything has to be right with you guys. Like, otherwise, comments in the Internet will flip.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was telling him before we started the podcast, like, I'm not jealous of him at all. No, because, like, I have the luxury of being like, this happened 50 plus years ago. We know everything. We're gonna know about this. There will be no new developments. Really. You know what I mean? Like, I. And it's very easy for me to be. Well, easier for me to be correct and on the right side because it's all 2020. He's like, he's putting out updates on an active war where it's like. So he constantly has the.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm flying by the seat of my pants. I feel like all the time I'm like, am I gonna, am I gonna get this one right or am I gonna be on the wrong side of this one in his. People are gonna look back one day on my videos and be like, wow, he really.

[Donut Operator]

Have you seen Hitler too?

[Eli Double Tap]

You know what I mean?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I would love to see your comments action.

[Chris Cappy]

It's, it's actually, they're more mature than I would. I would. You know, current events is very, it's emotional and like people get very emotional about things that are happening today. So it can be touchy. But they're, they're, they, they're mature boys. They're good boys.

[Donut Operator]

You have a good. That I think that's one of the keys is having that strong dedicated community or audience that then they rally behind you and they also have the patience is like, oh, he's going off this information. That's what was given to him.

[Chris Cappy]

And a lot of times I'll say, I'll say that like, this is what we know right now or this is what we think we know. And I will be proven wrong tomorrow. Probably turn out that I fucking. I'll eat my shoe on this.

[Donut Operator]

So that's. And then you were like, okay, continue to grow. How many videos had he done before you?

[Eli Double Tap]

Over a hundred probably.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh, no, I'm not at 100.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, I. Oh, sorry, I thought you're saying how many videos did I have already?

[Donut Operator]

Oh, okay, so you've had a hundred.

[Eli Double Tap]

I had over a hundred for sure by the time he had started.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, I probably that Chuckman winning one, maybe 20, 30.

[Donut Operator]

Still dope feeling. I bet you're like, yeah, that was

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

a big jump to go from like. Because I didn't want to do like really short videos right off the bat. I knew the goal was 45 minute videos. So that Chuck and Winnie one was. That was a big one to be 45 minutes. Side note, that also got me off of Trump did that TikTok ban.

[Donut Operator]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So TikTok's own ByteDance, I think is the parent company. So we call it a TikTok band. It was really a ByteDance band. My Chuck Mawinney video was in a program called Cap Cut and I was locked out of it. I was almost done and I was locked out. No, just a week sunk into editing this thing.

[Donut Operator]

Damn. Oh my God. I didn't even think about that. That would be like Adobe just canceling everyone and you're like, oh, you know,

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[Donut Operator]

Okay, the hell yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So it came back up exported. It immediately stopped everything I was doing and was like, am I going DaVinci resolve or premiere Pro?

[Donut Operator]

Someone's had. They probably had like a movie up to this point. They were mid edit and they're like, yeah, this is the week.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

And then just.

[Donut Operator]

You can't do it.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I'd be like, huh, huh.

[Donut Operator]

So then you did that and then fucking keep crushing now because, I mean, what's your numbers now? You're doing great.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

60, 62,000, something like that. It's.

[Donut Operator]

There's a lot of people. I hate when people. It's like, it's only this. And then I go, imagine in a Stadium and 62,000 people are watching you.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Donut Operator]

2,000 feels like a lot. Yeah, 60,000. You're like, yeah, it's a lot of work.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Like just people just don't think about. I know when I wanted to start it, I wanted to get better, like at speaking and stuff. So I started volunteering. You know, like we do military ceremonies and someone has to read all the scripts and stuff. I started volunteering to do all that just so I could get better at speaking. I started reading books on like how to script write better so you can kind of like, like, okay, why did Nick do this with the hooks and stuff? The best lesson I did was when. So the first video that we talked about was the Bob Howard,

[Donut Operator]

what happened?

[Eli Double Tap]

He's like, if we were. We just started talking and we're oh, yeah, what video are you working on? I was like, oh, I just uploaded all my clips to fluck on my Robert Howard video. And he's just like, fuck, his. The same video that he happened to be working on.

[Donut Operator]

Serendipitous.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

But it worked out perfect because the book is so fresh on my mind. I got to see, like, how do you take a 350, 400 page book and condense it down to where, like, you don't leave too much out and all that. And it was really interesting seeing the process. Like, I was like, oh, shit. He just combined, like, four paragraphs into one sentence.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Just little things like that.

[Donut Operator]

And that can translate. I mean, all y' all know, it's that how do I get all this information as quick as possible? And it covers everything. It's no different than lines reading lines, acting. It is, how do I convey this as fast as possible? Because a lot of people just add word goop just to add it. And you're like, no, get rid of that. Keep those hooks going the entire time. And I like, I love these style of podcast episodes because I just get to learn the entire time. I don't have to talk that much. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, this is fucking dope. This is great. So when you actually started, when would you say you started blowing up? Like, oh, it's taking off now.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh, it was. I know exactly when it was. It was about this time last year. I was in the field. I was in the field. I was really down on myself about it because I really was trying to put more videos out, like, consistently. And then you had commented on. I think you did a. I don't know, Instagram.

[Eli Double Tap]

A real.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

A real. Yeah. Saying, hey, XYZ did a good job on it. And then I just saw it, like, skyrocket, like a good size spike. That's the first time you see that money that's in the thing. I was like, oh, this is a real thing. That's legit.

[Donut Operator]

It's better than the Army. Way better than the army trying to

[Eli Double Tap]

get him to quit. It's my new passion, unrecruiting. I got Ethan. I'm working on Rich. I'm gonna get him.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Not there yet.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, not there yet.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yet.

[Donut Operator]

It switches real quick.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm gonna get him. You're not making it to 20. You're not getting a full pension.

[Donut Operator]

You get a certain part. Would you join again right now?

[Chris Cappy]

Not right now, I don't think. Not at the moment, no. Now they gotta go back.

[Eli Double Tap]

Maybe.

[Chris Cappy]

Maybe as an officer, if it was just like a. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Weekend job.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, no period. Only reason I'm going back in is if somebody invades here. And then the options are do I want to join the military or run a guerrilla operation. One of them sounds way funner.

[Donut Operator]

I bet that other one makes a lot of money if we stream it. Do tutorials on that. Be a good ass time.

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[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

Shopify.com unsubpod Mr. Cappy, what are you doing? You have Cappy army going for how long now?

[Chris Cappy]

It's almost been exactly a year our our first year and yeah, it's going great man. We're, we're killing it. We're crushing it.

[Donut Operator]

Your jump like it's awesome to see that everyone was like, oh, okay, you switched positions or switch channels, started something new.

[Chris Cappy]

And that, by the way, I can say this now, that was terrifying. And I thought for sure. I was like, it's a non zero chance. I was doing the pot. It was actually like a year ago. I was doing the podcast with you guys. And I'm like, this is non zero chance in my head thinking, like, this could all just fall apart and no one follows me over. It's a goddamn disaster. And also not just would it be a disaster, It'd be a very public disaster. It's like not. You know, when you switch jobs at work and you're like, I'm going to go from IBM to Cisco. It's like, if I fail at Cisco, no, no one's gonna know. Whatever. Like, I'll just bury that in my LinkedIn. It would be a monstrous, like, public humiliation ritual for myself.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, it is scary because it's like, you got to be doubting yourself as far as, like, okay, are these my fans or are they fans of the show and I'm just the current talking head? You know what I mean? Like, anybody on SportsCenter could leave SportsCenter. They're. They're not the new Sports Center. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, there's got to be that.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

But the, the hindsight was on the outside looking in. I'm pretty sure I was like a lot of other people where it was like, like, I thought you were task and purpose.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. Because I. So, I thought so I didn't start the thing. It's weird because obviously you don't start every video with like, hey, I'm Chris Cappy and I don't own this channel, by the way. Now we're gonna talk about.

[Eli Double Tap]

I just work here.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

I just started the channel and hey. Underpaid. Yeah. So a lot of people thought that. That I owned it. And yeah, it was. So it's been a year now, and it's been very freeing to be able to kind of. Before, I picked every topic, I made every video myself. But now it's a little bit different because I can also choose how much money to invest in everything. So that's a huge benefit, which is kind of like the one thing I couldn't do before.

[Donut Operator]

And you. I mean, we had talks even leading up to your split because I. I was very much. You're going to be leave. Yeah, I was like, you. Everyone is going to follow you. We've watched this happen time and time again. But yeah, it was some conversations because it is that worry. I mean, everyone's experienced it. Like, you leaving. Even when you're starting and you're like, hopefully, how will I do? Long form. And then it takes off you. Oh, shit. How much stress goes into. Okay, I'm starting something new. I am making this. But this is an unknown. I have my family to worry about. Because.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wasn't your wife pregnant at the time?

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes, she was three months pregnant. And I ran it by her, you know, I was like, I'm not gonna do this unless you believe in me and you think that we should do this. Obviously, I'm not gonna do it without your blessing. And she said, I believe in you. You know, you gotta. You got to see this through. And I was terrified because. And now looking back, I. I don't think you would before you have a kid. You know, before you have a kid, it doesn't feel real. You don't fully understand the responsibility. Now I'm like, what was I thinking? Oh, my God. Like, these diapers cost money. What was I gonna do if I failed? Like, what a stupid thing to do.

[Donut Operator]

Thank God it worked out.

[Chris Cappy]

But, yeah, she's. She. She's a beautiful little girl. I'm now a. A girl dad, and it's a beautiful thing.

[Donut Operator]

Congrats.

[Eli Double Tap]

How old?

[Chris Cappy]

Right now? She's 11 months. She's almost a year. Yeah. I see on Instagram other girl dads, and so apparently, Kim Jong Un is a girl dad, and he takes his little daughter out to see, like, the rockets, they fire.

[Eli Double Tap]

And I'm like, what? What?

[Chris Cappy]

You know, I actually. He's kind of growing on me.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Someone's gonna clip that.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, he's growing on me.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's a good.

[Chris Cappy]

He's a good girl dad. Come on. Leave him alone.

[Eli Double Tap]

What a warped sense of reality in his den. Just every time I walk in the room, people clap like they're Wii Sports characters. Like, that's normal.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Imagine trying to find her a date for prom.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, my God. You're not breaking up with her.

[Chris Cappy]

Nope.

[Donut Operator]

Not allowed to. What do you need, honey? Just a tear.

[Chris Cappy]

One tear slowly falling down.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Open the door like Mike Lowry.

[Donut Operator]

Who is this Reggie Kim Jong Un

[Eli Double Tap]

doing the bad boys with his military police in the background?

[Donut Operator]

No, that'd be a good AI clip.

[Chris Cappy]

But, yeah, I hope one day to take my daughter to missile launches and,

[Donut Operator]

you know, maybe you two could go together.

[Chris Cappy]

That'd be nice.

[Donut Operator]

Watching this. Invite you.

[Chris Cappy]

Please. Yes. If you're in charge of Himars launches, I would love to take my daughter to see one as an American, I feel like we should be able to do that.

[Donut Operator]

You're not talking to Kim Jong Un right now, right?

[Chris Cappy]

Actually, now that you mentioned I wasn't. But also the invitation. I'm putting this out there for Kim Jong Un as well.

[Donut Operator]

Be a hard one to accept.

[Eli Double Tap]

I still think the US Military would get way more support if they treated it like it was one of those, like, charity programs, you know, where it's like, oh, donate 16 cents a day to sponsor this child in this impoverished country. And then, you know, every year at Christmas, you get, like, a picture and, like, an update. I want that with, like, my tax dollar. Like, you bought a hellfire missile that we shot at some cartel number?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, bro. Absolutely. Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Be way more popular.

[Donut Operator]

Do you want to buy another?

[Eli Double Tap]

You bought seven screws on a B2.

[Chris Cappy]

Imagine that. You're like, I might. Why am I writing a check to the irs?

[Donut Operator]

Fuck happened so quickly. Your pictures are next to your family photos. My missiles.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was thinking about that the other day, like, back in World War II, like, actually going around and trying to sell war bonds to the civilian population to get everybody in on the war. Like, they never have to do that again because now they can just print more money. But, like, what a cool notion of, like, we're. No, we're gonna get. This gonna be a popular idea, actually. We're gonna crowdfund war.

[Chris Cappy]

It was the Kickstarter of World War II.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, we. We go. Fund me stopping down Nazi Germany and Japan. Like, it's literally what happened.

[Donut Operator]

Well, I actually don't know how did all of that work? Like, war Bond. So you just. They would.

[Eli Double Tap]

They would have fundraisers. So like, I talked about in my videos, like, a lot of the big war heroes, like John Basilone, after he got his Medal of Honor, like, as soon as dudes were getting the Medal of Honor. Same thing with Dick Bong. Same thing when they captured U boat 505. Whenever something incredibly cool happened, they would bring that person back from war and they would go on a war bonds tour. And it was a full PR tour across the country, going on radio shows, doing rallies. And you would have John Basilone telling his story of, you know, stopping the Japanese up on the hill by himself with a machine gun and. And Dick bong, shooting down 38 enemies. And people were in the crowd like, oh, shit. And then they're like, you guys want to buy war bonds? And it was basically like a. Any other bond where it's like, yeah, give us $20 now. And in 10 years, it matures and you get $30. And that's how they got raised money to keep building shit for the US Military because they didn't have, you know, fractional reserve banking yet. So they couldn't just be like, print us 15 trillion more dollars, please. So like they actually literally crowdfunded war.

[Donut Operator]

And it worked to a scary degree.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's also way more popular.

[Donut Operator]

Well, I mean, that's a really good idea though. Even if you did that, why don't, why do we get rid of the like the heroes say, imagine trying to

[Chris Cappy]

war fund, bond fund the Iran war missiles.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, I don't think many people are signed up for that one. I think the Iran, that's my whole

[Eli Double Tap]

point is like, well, now that they can just print money, there's no need for it to be a popular. There's no need for it to be a popular endeavor, which kind of fucking sucks. I kind of like the notion of like, hey, the civilian population is not paying for it. We can't go to war. I kind of like that.

[Chris Cappy]

I learned something interesting that you might, you might find this interesting. Both everyone here, really. So the National Guard, the way they recently reorganized it was for that reason. They put a bunch of the combat arms into the National Guard so that if there was like a major war, it would very quickly start to like impact the civilian population and families. And it was kind of like the doctrine of why they split it that way was to try to maintain some type of like popular support for the war.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's a good idea.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, yeah. There's a, there's a cool document on it out there that only the people here would find interesting.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, I, well, I find like again, why get rid of that system? As you're saying? That's a great idea. Does the population, does the. We do a democracy. We see what we want to do as a nation and then we fund that. And I do like even bringing the soldiers like the, the Delta dues that did the raid on in South Argentina. Right.

[Chris Cappy]

In Venezuela. Venezuela would be so sick.

[Donut Operator]

And they're on radio, they're doing their talks and they're trying to influence or at least get some. Like a hero. As you've said before, when we were

[Eli Double Tap]

after General George, after Korea, after World War II for the most part. But definitely after Korea, we quit having war heroes.

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[Eli Double Tap]

Like, we just stopped. We quit doing it. And I don't know if it's because we didn't need to raise money anymore or what, but, like, I think it's like, it's a whole. Obviously I didn't start my channel with the motivation of doing this, but, like, as something's going successful, you, like, look for reasons why to keep doing it. And, like, mine is definitely like, okay, why did we quit highlighting these guys? Why do we quit teaching about these guys? Like, and then you wonder why all the kids today aren't proud to be an American. And it's like, oh, because you guys don't know any of the fucking stories that got you here. Like, look at this badass and tell me that's not awesome. You know what I mean? And then you went, oh, none of the kids care. None of the kids are patriotic anymore. Well, yeah, no, Sherlock. Like, obviously, yeah, look what they're fed.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, that's. I had what I wanted to join. And this wasn't the age of information, though. I was like, watch videos or 911 just happened. So it's just, oh, I want to jump out of planes. Watching a lot of movies, it's like, I want to do more and be the cool guy. And now is there rarely war movies or portrayed in that?

[Chris Cappy]

And when there are, I feel like a lot of times the first thing people do is they just tear them down. They look for a reason of why. Like, oh, that guy was actually flawed in this way. It's like, oh, he wasn't perfect.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, you want to hear the scary stat? There's a new study that came out, and basically they polled living people from different generations on what was like, the. The defining historical moment of your generation. So, for example, Gen X said the defining cultural moment of their generation was the Berlin Wall coming down. Okay, makes sense. Millennials was 9, 11. You know what Gen Z's cultural defining moment is? When they asked kids, oh, God, Covid.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, I'm not Tik Tok shut down for a bit.

[Chris Cappy]

Two weeks without a kick.

[Eli Double Tap]

Mr.

[Donut Operator]

Beast.

[Eli Double Tap]

School shootings in general.

[Chris Cappy]

School shootings in general.

[Donut Operator]

They just thought that that's wild. And because we've discussed in the past, Dr. Fox, he did a research paper on this. The 90s were the highest peak of school shootings. The 90s when we were.

[Chris Cappy]

It's really like kind of like Gen X's more.

[Donut Operator]

That's what's crazy. It's like this is before 9 11, but people, we treat it like the, like the monster in the closet. If you have a kiddo and you never talk about the monster in the closet, guess what? They're never going to know about the monster in the closet. If you walk in, tell your kids, like, hey, good night, be careful, the monster in your closet. And then you walk out. Now kid was like, the fuck did that just.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, it's also think about like school. Like during the Cold War. During the Cold War, kids would have like nuclear fallout drills. Like they had the government cartoons with the little turtle duck and cut. Remember kids, what do you do when you see the flash? Like, what's the closest thing parallel to that that a kid today would be going through an active shooter drill. Right. You know, I mean, so like it's. I don't know, it's just weird to think about. It's like. And what's the war? Obviously the Berlin Walls, the Cold war, potential war with Russia. 911 is what started g. What like what's the war outcome or motivation for somebody to join the military service if the biggest cultural event of your childhood and upbringing is a local problem?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, so it's.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

It's tough recruiting right now. So like two. Yeah, so like two assignments ago, I was a associate professor, military science glorified ROTC instructor. And then after that I was actually a recruiting commander. So like I was in charge of like the recruiting for the southern part of the state. Never thought I'd do that in my career. Didn't want those assignments. But you go where you're told. It does what it's told. So anyway, that was rtc. It was wild. The things you find out about. So like Covid and has messed these kids up. Yeah, it has absolutely messed these kids up. I was the class I taught for a lot of my students. I was the only in person class they had on campus. The rest were all online.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, damn.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Paying full college prices. But like, I was the only one in person.

[Chris Cappy]

It's gotta be hard to recruit.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Like. Oh yeah. So yeah. So on the recruiting part, you're talking like, so why did these kids join? Like, it's. It was kind of hard to get some of these old timers to understand. Like, no, these kids don't care about patriotism anymore. That's not where they're joining. They don't have that defining moment. A lot of them Are joining. And it's the only thing I could sell was educate. Was either education, benefits, like go to college or get a skill that could translate into a job. So, like, the two hottest things that are easy or really the three hottest things to sell right now is cyber signal and military intelligence. Because all those translate into, like, you know, three letter agency jobs. Like, those are easy sells.

[Chris Cappy]

The biggest geopolitical event in their lives has been school shootings and Covid.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, but I mean, the most impactful school shootings and then covet happened, and it's like, how many kids didn't get to go to prom? How many kids? You know what I mean? Like, arguably the point of your life where you learn the most socially and deal with the most rejection and the most everything. Stay in the house, cover your face, don't interact. Why are you guys so weird? I wonder? You know what I mean?

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. Like, couldn't be anything that you guys

[Eli Double Tap]

did to us stand six feet apart even though it's an airborne illness that can travel 80 yards away.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Why? Fauci said so. He also said it didn't make sense that you didn't know where it came from, but fucking do it.

[Donut Operator]

Thankfully, it really doesn't hurt you little ones at all.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Covid was wild being still serving.

[Eli Double Tap]

When it first happened, I was so. I had just gotten out. I was so fucking happy that I wasn't in for Covid.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

In the military, you couldn't walk anywhere in uniform without people going, like, is it martial law? What's happening right now?

[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Go check it out, bro. It's so funny. You know what the thing was when I was in National Garden was that it was right when Obama was leaving office. So 2016. Do you remember Jade Helm?

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

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[Chris Cappy]

I've always wanted to do a video on Jade Helm. I love. That's such a good.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I need to. I need to have my memory refurbished

[Eli Double Tap]

on that National Guard. I'm up in Iowa. Operation Jade Helm. You know how every, like, mock military field exercise has a mission? It's run like a real military operation. So, like, yeah, we're doing this mock mission, Operation Arctic Anvil, Operation Slippery Fist, whatever the it is, right? So the Texas National Guard, their annual training exercise was to provide disaster relief in either Houston or Dallas. And the mock mission's name was Jade Helm. And they had the maps drawn up of like, okay, the units are gonna go into this part of the city or whatever, whatever, like, whatever this fake mission was. Obviously they weren't actually going out into the city, but all the maps were drawn up. That was what the intel briefs were, yada, yada, yada. It's all fucking fake. These got leaked to the press and it turned into all the like super crazy right wing people being like, Barack Obama's gonna instill martial law so he doesn't have to leave office and he's gonna become a dictator and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it got so hyped up that Texas has like the actual federal Army National Guard, but there's also the Texas Guard that just works for the state of Texas. And they, they do not. Like, they're not technically associated with the U.S. army, none of that shit, just a militia group for the state of Texas. Basically, they were fucking posted up, like outside of Fort Hood, ready to go to war with the United States army in case Barack Obama tried to instill martial law. And I had people coming up to me like, is this, is this true? Are you going to try to enforce martial law? I was like, bro, I'm an apprentice electrician. You think I'm going to get a call one day and hop in a Humvee with a megaphone and tell everybody to go to bed? Absolutely not.

[Donut Operator]

Like, no, it would not work.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was like a real thing. I got asked about it multiple times when this was all Going on. It was fucking crazy.

[Donut Operator]

God, what year was this?

[Eli Double Tap]

2016.

[Chris Cappy]

And I think they do it every year, right? They do a version of it, kind of. And they have special forces come in with their helicopters and they do a mock invasion of a. Of like a town. And then people, they go crazy every year about how. Oh, because the government's planning.

[Eli Double Tap]

Every year the government's planning something. Look at all these tanks on trains. It's like, well, the military is just moving equipment. Why is it dirt? Why is it now? Because it's summertime and that's when we train. I don't. What do you want me to say?

[Donut Operator]

Like, we've.

[Chris Cappy]

Because you'll tear up the roads if you try to drive a convoy of Abrams, like down friggin 81 highway all the way to wherever the fuck.

[Donut Operator]

People freak out going to Yakima. Because Seattle, today, Yakima, we'd have to do a drive with all the strikers. So you have an entire brigade driving on the road highways there. And you just get to see people freaking. The fuck I didn't think about that. They don't even look at it like, oh, it's a military exercise.

[Chris Cappy]

You see it on X, you see it on Twitter all the time. There's people. It'll have like 37,000 likes and something. It's just a video of tanks going on a train trussel. And people are like, it's happening.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's World War three.

[Chris Cappy]

Guys.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

See, they're thinking that I'm looking at that and going, there are some poor E4 who's been in the heat, binding down chains.

[Chris Cappy]

The worst railhead for a minimum wage, below minimum wage.

[Donut Operator]

Yes. Hating life.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

They're like, all these strikers on the road. It's like somebody is in there having to drive that hating life right now.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, dude. No, I'm good, man. I forgot all about that. What do you. Okay, so now that you're doing that, do you get in any trouble with the military? Like, Nick's out.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Donut Operator]

We had some fun times with Ethan. Depending on what was going on.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I don't know. I don't know what it is, if I'm just lucky or it's the content that I do because it's history. Everyone's either neutral or really receptive. I haven't gotten a single.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think again, it's a history negative thing.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think if you were doing current events or what a lot of other military influencers do, which is just like being in your uniform reading headlines from Newsweek that are like, right, 40% of the time, you would get a lot more shit.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, 100%.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're also not in your fucking uniform.

[Donut Operator]

In every video, I'll say, oh, yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I think smart. I think I showed maybe in the whole tactically acquired channel, there's maybe like 45 seconds total of me in uniform.

[Eli Double Tap]

I've never done skits usually, too.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

But even then, like, I've done, like, I'll just have the tan shirt.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. But I mean, it's still. There's, like. There's plausible deniability. Like, if I did a skit, nobody would be like, that's stolen. Like, no, obviously I'm doing a skit. You know what I mean? There's still plausible deniability. The fact that you had to come here and say, oh, no, I'm still in, is the whole reason why it's okay. Whereas, like, a lot of the other military influencers, it's like your whole thing is you're in the military, so we should trust you and know, and that's why you're a reliable source.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Angry cops get in trouble.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yes.

[Donut Operator]

Wild. His content that he does, his jokes, he makes even on kind of this. And then he is a detective and a drill sergeant. Mike. Just like, playing with gas, homie.

[Eli Double Tap]

He is. And I've had this conversation with him before. He's Norm MacDonald.

[Donut Operator]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

He is the Norm MacDonald of the game. He's one of the first military influencers. Like, he pioneered a lot of this, if not all of this. So it's just like, by the time they caught up to being like, that's not okay. He'd already done it. So it's like he just gets, like, the forever pass of, like, oh, yeah. He's the loose cannon. We didn't catch. The rest of you motherfuckers need to listen

[Chris Cappy]

just grandfathered in. I remember watching Rich years ago.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, he's been doing it for 12 years now.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's been doing it since Vine.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yep.

[Donut Operator]

I remember. I think me and Rich started talking, like, 2014 for military content.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Wow.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, in its infancy of social media.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Like, Drunken debrief was the retelling of history. Military store. Like, you. I'd get you drunk, you tell a story, and then we'd reenactment with adr.

[Chris Cappy]

It's like drunk History but comedy, not Comedy Central.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Where was it on?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Drunk history, but it was drunk.

[Chris Cappy]

Comedy Central was a thing. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And. And that was the first of its kind, all those. It's like you get to see the first of Their kind. And it's like, oh yeah, this is og. And then other than Rich, I think Rich is the only one that's still around.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like Rich was one of the first ones there and he's. I can't think of anybody else that's had as long of a career successfully as he has in this age.

[Donut Operator]

Everyone else like, I mean, started doing other shit. Combat veteran, right? Remember him? Oh yeah, you the other drill sergeant, Yusha Thomas. Yusha Thomas, yeah. I don't know like any of those guys are doing anymore.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, like even. I mean he was before and after Black Rifle. Like Black Rifle I feel like was the, the turning point when it became like mainstream and like he was there before, he's thereafter. I mean just crazy long.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. And still doing both of those.

[Eli Double Tap]

Still doing it.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

That's what it's the most. The weirdest part is he is the one that will. He has the least likely chance of quitting anything. No, he loves.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's never gonna happen.

[Donut Operator]

Being a police officer. Loves training privates.

[Chris Cappy]

Does it for the love of the game.

[Eli Double Tap]

He really does. 100%.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

It's gonna be interesting from his perspective. Cause he's been doing it for so long, it's like going back. What was it like back then, Grandpa? Like just seeing how everything's progressed. I mean as far as like dude,

[Donut Operator]

ad revenue didn't exist. Like a lot of that stuff was not what it is now. Like I look at OG like 2010, you had Freddy and how the money would be made was not. We were not looking at ad revenue for YouTube. It was getting deals to do videos for or commercials. That's how the money was brought into RocketJump. Ad revenue was like. Like no one really gave a shit or the CPMs would have been trash donkey. And then that was probably till 2016. I'm trying to think when ad revenue actually made a difference.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Man. I was.

[Donut Operator]

I know this is like a lot. I've done this forever now at this point in my life.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I don't see how some of these guys like they'll do like those skit channels and stuff and they make like pennies on the dollar. And then like all these tick tock influences and stuff. I mean they don't make.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah the CPMs are, are lower for I think that kind of thing.

[Donut Operator]

It's like 7 cents. Damn shorts don't pay, dog. I don't cold out here. Fine. What's that? So Cappy, what's one of the going to your style of content? What's like One of the scariest things going on right now to you. Since you're active in the going on

[Chris Cappy]

the world military, there's kind of two things I think you guys might find cool.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

This is.

[Chris Cappy]

I'll get to the scary thing in a second if it's all right.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Go for it.

[Chris Cappy]

Something that you guys might find really interesting is the army's trying to Bring back the XM25. They're trying.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hell yeah. Should have never been canceled in the first place.

[Chris Cappy]

Amen. Amen, brother.

[Eli Double Tap]

I looked into it. It was bullshit. The reason they canceled that they were worried about us committing too many war crimes because it was awesome. No, that's my theory.

[Chris Cappy]

It's not just a theory. I got it confirmed.

[Eli Double Tap]

Did you really?

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

So I did that in my video and I was like, sorry, can I. The XM25 is a grenade launcher, right?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

So it all started out with the Army Futures Weapons program. And then they had this futuristic grenade launcher that basically every 40 millimeter grenade. Is that what it was?

[Chris Cappy]

A 25.

[Eli Double Tap]

25 millimeter grenade. You can fire it and then it blows. Like you could air burst. You could lase the target. Like say it's a window. You could lase the window and then program the grenade to explode 18 inches past the window. So then shoot through the window and it blows up right in the. In the hole. Right. But my whole theory was it's technically a war crime because it's exploding ammunition.

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[Chris Cappy]

So I learned. I'll get to. I'll tell you. I learned the. The. So it is that. And it's a thing on top of it. But basically. So the XM25 was canceled for a couple reasons. That was like the company that would made the XM25 Punisher was in a contract with another company and they wanted to stop making it because the army was a pain in the ass to work with. So they used the Geneva Convention thing as kind of like a way to get out of the contract.

[Donut Operator]

Okay.

[Chris Cappy]

And they snuck out of this like multi million dollar contract that they were stuck. This is, this is just what was told to me by somebody who works at the company for the XM30 that I went and fired. I would test fired the XM30, first civilian to shoot it. And it's crazy because it really is like a sniper rifle grenade launcher. I was putting rounds at 300 meters consistently on the target's face. And I was hitting. And you can hit out to 500 meters. The range was only 400 meters. So I was accurately putting semi automatic grenades at 400 meters within a 1 meter radius. And it has a 5 meter radius kill range. So instead of 25 millimeter, it's now 30 millimeter which is like twice the volume, twice the lethality. Buzzword lethality. But is there any like when you're

[Donut Operator]

tracking, is it just because you were like hey, I'm dialed in or is it hey, this knows what it needs to hit.

[Chris Cappy]

So I didn't shoot the laser range. Find airburst ammo. I shot training ammo. Because you can't just like blow shit up in Montana and burn down a field apparently.

[Donut Operator]

Gay.

[Chris Cappy]

Gay, but so the, the it's Semi automatic, has five 30 millimeter grenades in the clip or in the magazine. Sorry. And I'll see myself out.

[Donut Operator]

Thank you guys.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was really nice to be here. Boom. I love how we're all YouTubers and we all know there's 500 comments angry at him immediately.

[Donut Operator]

The second you're like clip.

[Eli Double Tap]

They were like I'm turning, I'm turning

[Donut Operator]

so red right now.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just like earlier.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

She likes that.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, it was easy.

[Donut Operator]

Yes. What a God.

[Chris Cappy]

Just ruined my credibility here on unsubscribe today. Dude, such a cool grand. So cool to hear that story about how like yeah, it's it. You know exploding bullets below a certain amount are supposed to be a war crime.

[Donut Operator]

25, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Sorry.

[Donut Operator]

Like again, 300 yards and you're hitting a face.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

That's. That's ridiculous.

[Donut Operator]

40 mic mics, you would have a fucking leaf that you would just guess that it's going to maybe hit your CEP.

[Chris Cappy]

Like circular error probable is within 4 meters to the left and right. And for horizontal and vertical, you know you're aiming for an area. This is your, the difference between aiming at an area because you're kind of just kind of winging it and like putting your finger up. Which way is the wind blowing?

[Donut Operator]

It's an open leaf sight. For anyone that's never seen It. It is literally like. Like this. And now yards, like 50, 100. And it's giant.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. Now you're. You're hitting the silhouette and you're choosing where to hit on the silhouette. It's an insane capability. They're also this counter drone version to it. So I shot. People were giving me in the comments for this because I shot the. The inert sort of the. Just. It shoots out these razor blades on the side.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, it's like the one missile, the flying Ginsu.

[Chris Cappy]

It's like the healthy. That's what I said. It was a spider mini version of Hellfire. I shot a drone that my buddy gave me, the drone that I could shoot. And so I didn't have it flying at me at 300 miles an hour, obviously, because I'm like, I only got two of these shots I don't want to miss. So, yeah, it was kind of looked stupid, but I did shoot this drone into oblivion. And there is an airburst version of it, a proximity version, where it detects when it's within 5 meters of a drone automatically through, like radio frequencies, and then it just explodes itself. So that's cool.

[Donut Operator]

That's. But I like how they on you for doing something. Dude.

[Chris Cappy]

Don't think this is cool. Cappy, you're such a loser. It's not flying at you at 600

[Eli Double Tap]

miles an hour, MMA, guys. Well, you can't eye gouge and bite his dick off, so this is a real fighting. It's like, dude, shut up. Like, I'm sorry you hit with the

[Donut Operator]

bottom of your fish.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's not called training if we're actually doing the thing.

[Chris Cappy]

Like, I'm. I've also. Again, should I have done it that way?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Sure.

[Chris Cappy]

But, you know, it was just kind of just me out in Montana with like, it doesn't matter.

[Eli Double Tap]

Then. Then it would be. Yeah, but you didn't actually have explosives on it. Yeah, right. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, that's. It's.

[Donut Operator]

You're not going to.

[Chris Cappy]

It's.

[Eli Double Tap]

It'll never be enough. It doesn't matter what you do. It will never be enough.

[Donut Operator]

When will it be enough?

[Eli Double Tap]

Never.

[Donut Operator]

You're not in an active war zone. You don't understand what's going with the heart rate. Soldiers.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

What the.

[Donut Operator]

Do you know?

[Chris Cappy]

You just take 17 Adderall to make sure that you just, you know, recreate that feeling of being under fire.

[Donut Operator]

Did you do it in a war zone under fire? And then it's like, murderer. Okay, cool.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Lose.

[Donut Operator]

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[Chris Cappy]

The recoil was insane by the way. And they, they, they don't even try to hide it. It. It feels like somebody actually like stood up and donkey kicked you like in the shoulder.

[Donut Operator]

It's a 30 mic mic. Yeah, yeah. It's power. I want to see what those do like when the air burst because it has to. How much does it up?

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, I had, I had joked in my video Talking about the XM25, I was like, technically the air burst is supposed to be air burst, but because you can program the bullet to explode when you want, there's nothing preventing the grunt from lasing the bad guy and then making it detonate 6 inches inside the bad guy, which is exploding ammunition. And then I put the clip from Terminator 2 when the grenade goes into him and he like blows off looks down. Yeah, exactly.

[Chris Cappy]

Yes.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So is this like a. I mean, not gonna give it to every grunt? It's like a squad weapon or.

[Chris Cappy]

This is interesting. I love talking about the doctrine side of it that I find that fascinating. So they're gonna. Basically they're remaking the whole army squad where it's gonna be the XM7 and they're gonna get rid of two XM7s in the squad. And instead of your grenadier role, you're just gonna be carrying one of these. It's called the precision grenade system.

[Eli Double Tap]

Grenade launcher guy, right? Grenadier.

[Chris Cappy]

The grenadier's back now.

[Eli Double Tap]

Grenade launcher guy sounds cooler.

[Chris Cappy]

Grenade launcher guy.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I'm sure the Marine Corps. The Marine Corps has the best MOS names.

[Donut Operator]

I'm the glg. No big deal. Well, shit up. So now wait when you say redoing the squad.

[Chris Cappy]

So in each fireteam, you'll have one of these and you don't. You don't carry. I asked about it and they said you don't carry. You wouldn't carry like a.

[Donut Operator]

An ar.

[Chris Cappy]

A rifle. You would just have this. Because there's also shotgun round shells. And this was the one lethal round that I did get to fire. Was it? So it. Get this. It's like firing four 12 gauge buckshot rounds. It has 48.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

That's.

[Donut Operator]

Hell yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

48.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

That's gotta be a war cry.

[Eli Double Tap]

In 40 years, there's gonna be some dude with zero cartilage or bone density in his shoulder. I'm not sure it was service related. Yes, 100%.

[Donut Operator]

Like, it's like the Gustav giving you. You're not allowed to shoot the Gustav so many times because of brain damage, concussions.

[Chris Cappy]

It has that kind of energy to it. It's four.

[Eli Double Tap]

And you shot it?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

How'd that feel?

[Chris Cappy]

Beautiful. Yeah, it really gave me a run for my money.

[Eli Double Tap]

Your gun knows you're from New Jersey too.

[Donut Operator]

When I had to shoot the. We built a 10 or an 8 gauge, but we were doing blank rounds, which found out that sucks way more because you'll throw in. We were putting an object in front of the blunderbuss. It was like an 8 or 10 gauge blunderbuss we built. And we're filming it. My shoulder was bruised, like the entirety of it. And I shoot everything. I do not get bruised shoulders. That was one of the first times I actually told them. I was like, hey, I got like two more shots. I can't do this anymore because they're like. And action filming.

[Eli Double Tap]

Ah.

[Donut Operator]

Like, oh, that really, really sucks.

[Chris Cappy]

It has a serious recoil mitigation system in it where the barrel moves back nine inches. And there's also a massive, like, buffer spring in it. I'll try to. Here, I'll show you the. This you can see right here.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Kicks that show that that moves you, homie.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, this is, I think, a better one. It's in slow motion, but damn, it's just boom.

[Donut Operator]

When in motion, the frame goes like this. Like, you're here from here.

[Chris Cappy]

So it looks like the Warhammer bolter gun, and they. They have that at their offices is like the Warhammer 40K bolter.

[Eli Double Tap]

Have you seen the Chinese version that I've made fun of on Unsub before? And the Internet got super butthurt at me.

[Donut Operator]

They get.

[Chris Cappy]

They get really butthurt about that, because if people were commenting on this video, they're like, oh, people are making fun of the Chinese. The Chinese version, by the way, is based on an American version that failed. That we were like, Barrett.

[Eli Double Tap]

It was one Barrett made the XM109 that Barrett made.

[Chris Cappy]

And we walked away from it because we're like, it's 30 pounds. It has ungodly recoil. This. This new version that we have. Yeah, I did it.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yep. You have to see it fire because the scope is on a slide and it's got this big plunger thing. So when the Chinese dudes fire it, the scope hits them in the face. And then you see the whole scope slide forward. Because they had to design it that way because the eye relief on the scope, if they mounted the scope far enough ahead to where it wouldn't check them, they couldn't see anything. So every time they're getting punched in the orbital bone by this scope, he's not lying.

[Donut Operator]

You have to have the eye relief to look in. It's like one of the OG Sniper, like. Like a night vision.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's like the night vision where you have to put your eye into it,

[Donut Operator]

and then that night vision kicks you in the face every time you pull the trigger.

[Eli Double Tap]

And not like, not a little bit.

[Chris Cappy]

This thing, this new thing that we're working on is only. It's £11 versus that, which is £30. So people trying to say they're like, why are we making fun of China for doing this when we're doing this? No, we're not doing the same thing.

[Donut Operator]

Watch this dude's.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Just got Mike Tyson right in the face, dude.

[Donut Operator]

And they have to carry that.

[Chris Cappy]

Not good for the eye.

[Donut Operator]

No shit.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

I didn't even know that. Why do people get mad about that?

[Eli Double Tap]

Because everybody that has the attitude that America's bad, anytime America does anything, it's because somebody else did it first.

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[Eli Double Tap]

They just don't like America. So they jump on any opportunity they can. They can to shit on it.

[Chris Cappy]

The Chinese communists It is wild watching

[Donut Operator]

people underestimate the US military and then what we can do. It is mind blowing.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Like, we do war, like, really good. Plus we've been doing it. It was like 12 years. We've not been in war since our country.

[Chris Cappy]

Also, we're due. We're due for.

[Donut Operator]

No, shut up. But it's one of those things even where new when recruiting, did you see any of that? Like, people joining in? Like, younger kids are like, but what if, Do I have to go to war or. Well, aren't they better than us? Yes.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Not. Not the better that they weren't. You're giving them too much credit that they were digging that deep into it. But they were like, you know, will I have to deploy? And then like, it's like, well, I mean, that's what you're. Uncle Sam's just not giving you these free benefits for nothing. Like, I mean, you may deploy, you may not. Most deployments really aren't that bad. Gwat. Like, especially.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it's a great, easy deployment.

[Eli Double Tap]

Little bit different era, little bit different.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yours was definitely when we were with Randy, we went to dinner with Randy as he was like his going away party thingy. And that's what I was like. He was like, what unit were you? I was like, oh, two ID for this in 07 in Moktadiya and Baghdad. He was like, oh, you guys, fuck. Holy shit. The first striker, they got hammered. I'm like, yeah, it was great.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

No, but my war stories are so different. No shit. There I was green bean and WI fi everywhere.

[Donut Operator]

I know. That's why you're like, it's like a deployment. I'm like,

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

just go over there and work out.

[Donut Operator]

I mean, and that's, that's what happened. A lot of times when my guys went back the second time, that's all they were like, dude, you just get jacket tan.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah. What's crazy though is what our. Because at the time we were like, I don't understand this mission. Like, what are we doing? And we were just like a presence for Iran and we were protecting some of the stuff. Some of those strikes hit those places that we were protecting. And like, just looking at that in hindsight, because it felt like there was no reason to be over there. And I'm sure a lot of people feel that way, but it's like, holy shit. That could have been like a thing.

[Eli Double Tap]

What, what are we doing? We're trying to get them to start voting and quit fighting. Oh, how long they've been not voting and fighting Forever. Oh, I should be able to get this done in nine months. Then I'm sure I got a PowerPoint presentation. It'll persuade them.

[Donut Operator]

If you see slide two.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Such a good idea. We should do that.

[Donut Operator]

So going back to like for you, what's one of the scariest things that you've been.

[Chris Cappy]

I think the biggest, the scariest thing right now is the straight up hormone moves for everyone. That has everybody, you know, in a tiffy pretty worried about what's going to happen there. It's unclear at this point. That's, that's what I'm most worried about probably is and I think there's a lot that we've learned from that war with Iran in terms of what you can kind of paste that onto what it would look like in a war with China because it's, it's pretty similar.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's, they have all their Chinese, they have all their equipment.

[Chris Cappy]

It's the same thing would happen kind of be they, they'd fire these huge volleys of missiles at all of our bases that are in that region. So that's I think a microcosm of what we might see in the Pacific. And I would say doesn't look great in terms of interception rates, you know, because it's, it's just a losing proposition. I think right now offensive wins, you're going to want, you can't intercept every missile that's coming. And we've kind of learned that. So that's what I'm most worried about is a straight of our moves, straight up moves is lame.

[Donut Operator]

It's just, I think Ethan's talked about, they complained for a long time this is the stuff we need to get into like missile defense system or interceptions. And then that's what they kept pushing off for saying we don't need that now.

[Eli Double Tap]

Also just the entire notion of like they're not playing to win so you're not gonna win. You know what I mean? Like if you're not willing to go in there and blow up the systems that fire huge volleys of missiles, missiles and blow up the factories that make the missiles, you're never going to win. Because the technology and the cost of a missile that's capable of detecting and intercepting a dumb unguided missile and it takes a 7 million dollar missile to shoot down a missile that costs 100 grand, they're going to keep throwing $100,000 missiles at you all day long and they're going to bleed you dry first. So it's just the attitude of like if they would fucking play to win. They would win really fast and in a hurry. But they're going to sit there and bleed themselves out for as long as they want because nobody wants to actually just commit and do the thing, which

[Donut Operator]

is, wow, that's the biggest change.

[Chris Cappy]

You would need ground troops, I think, at this point, basically. And to show that now no one wants that.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Which.

[Chris Cappy]

Thank God it has that quote that I think Kissinger a lot people give it to, which is like, the guerrilla army wins if it does not lose, and the conventional army loses if it doesn't win. So we would basically have to go in there and. And completely win. All they have to do is just kind of survive.

[Eli Double Tap]

I mean, has America ever lost when the objective was go win? No. But when it's like, okay, well, go over here and just kind of walk around and like, hearts and mind. Yeah, you can shoot people, but you have to wait until they rack their gun and then point it at you. And then even then, we should probably wait till they fire first, and then you can return fire. And then if you do shoot somebody and his family members say that, oh, it was celebratory gunfire, then we're going to give that guy $50,000 of your tax money. Like, no, that. Either go do the thing or leave him alone. Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

Like, yep.

[Donut Operator]

Hearts and minds. Never want.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

No.

[Eli Double Tap]

Ever.

[Donut Operator]

And this.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's not true. It worked in Japan, it worked in Germany.

[Donut Operator]

But what was that? What did we do before?

[Eli Double Tap]

That was because we did the thing first. It was like, okay, you guys learn your lesson. You want a sandwich now? Okay, cool, cool. Now we're going to be buddies. Like, do it or don't.

[Donut Operator]

And then you had, hey, okay, Emperor, do something you've never done. Like, that was. And it was highly successful. And still, I mean, you've discussed it. We've discussed it. Where we got to see a culture, people that we've never seen, whereas we're going to not believe the American one and still defend 20 years after 30 years.

[Eli Double Tap]

1976, I think, was the last guy, Hiro Onoda in the Philippines.

[Donut Operator]

Would you like that level of. Was that national pride or radicalization? Yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Indoctrination.

[Donut Operator]

But on the flip side, it was, oh, look how Japan prospered after that. Yeah. We did what, 10 years.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

How long?

[Eli Double Tap]

We helped when we were there, like, boots on the ground for 10 years. But I mean, we continue to help forever. I mean, it was basically like, all right, we won. Start making Toyotas. Worked out great. I need Seiko watches, Toyotas, Nintendo's Nintendo's also. Hear me out. I want a company. I want one fucking store where I can buy a dirt bike and a piano. All right, get to it. Chop chop. We'll call it Yamaha. It's gonna be great.

[Donut Operator]

We also draw this girl bigger tips.

[Eli Double Tap]

Fantastic. Hear me out. What if she had an octopus now? And you know what, Never mind.

[Donut Operator]

Do we blur it out just enough and only their private parts. Why? I don't know. God. So the. How do you think the straight's going?

[Chris Cappy]

Dude, that's what I'm looking. What I'm thinking.

[Donut Operator]

Pretty gay. Pretty gay. There's people on the side protesting with this.

[Chris Cappy]

The way the Gayetola shirts are on here somewhere,

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I don't think you're seeing them.

[Chris Cappy]

Oh, I gotta.

[Donut Operator]

They're over there.

[Chris Cappy]

But I should be wearing shirts. Someone brought them in here.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Chris Cappy]

They're amazing.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Come in here with them. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Who did?

[Chris Cappy]

Wait, Finn walked in here earlier. They might be on the stairs right there. Unless they removed.

[Eli Double Tap]

What?

[Chris Cappy]

Oh, right here. We got him. Amazing.

[Donut Operator]

Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Gaya.

[Donut Operator]

Tola. Oh my God. Are these yours?

[Chris Cappy]

No. I don't know. I don't know.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, someone just made these.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah, there's a bunch of them in here somewhere.

[Donut Operator]

So good.

[Chris Cappy]

It's my favorite Toa. But yeah, I'm looking forward and thinking like, where does this end? Does this end with Iran? Basically has a toll booth there and they're allowed to kind of just charge 2 million bucks to whoever goes through or are we going to blockade them for 12 months? It's just, it's, it's a standoff and nobody kind of wants. Wants any part of it. It's, it's not good for anyone right now. So it's shutting down Iran's most of their economy and it's driving up all the gas prices here. I think some of us may have noticed it's no bueno.

[Eli Double Tap]

What a good idea. What if the enemy was more desperate?

[Donut Operator]

That works. Good. Yeah, they'll give up then.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah,

[Eli Double Tap]

that works. Based on my extensive knowledge of, I don't know, basic psychology of every living creature on the planet, it's always when animals are desperate that they're most, most reasonable.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Didn't the last barrels just start arriving because it's like a three to six month process.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah. They said in the next few weeks to expect maybe some kind of catastrophic spike in the prices, but yeah, it's. I think they were hoping for regime change really quickly. I think they were like, let's go in, let's pound here. Kill that and then we'll set up somebody like similar to in Venezuela. They'll come in, they won't be democratic, but who gives a shit? They'll be more pliable to the U.S. it'll be great. And listen like whether, whether I agreed with the war or not, the reasons for starting it or like any of that, it kind of, that's a different conversation. But I think how it's going right now is, is not well whether it was the right choice or not, that's kind of how I feel about it also.

[Eli Double Tap]

Even if you did agree with the war, you kind of get to be like I agreed with it but they're not doing it. You know what I mean? Like do it or don't shit or get off the pot. Like are we doing this or not? We're just dragging this out and making miserable for everybody dumb it almost because

[Chris Cappy]

it's almost like a no win situation for us where you can't, if we walked away now then Iran has control, there's no freedom of navigation there. And that is a non starter for the US and at the same time they're never gonna agree. I mean I think what happens is I think we bomb them again. I don't know.

[Donut Operator]

I would bet on that. I don't think that's a hard, I don't know. I think, well, the first round didn't

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

work right,

[Donut Operator]

let's try again. Maybe it'll be different. Military.

[Eli Double Tap]

They're putting underwater mines out. It's like I've seen this happen before. I saw what happened last time. They just put some mines out. One US ship got too close, USS Samuel B. Roberts almost got sunk and then they flattened their whole fucking navy in eight hours.

[Chris Cappy]

So that's what I think could happen is if when we bomb them again and then maybe we send some escorts in and I think if a ship gets hit by a missile that might maybe create the political will for some kind of ground troops. But I think what Iran's been doing is they've been purposely trying to not create mass casualty events purposefully so that we don't have that kind of rah rah like they killed 100 US troops. Let's go in there them up. It's smarter for them to just let's keep, let's bomb their airplanes, let's bomb their equipment and not get them all, all jazzed up on, on fucking invading us.

[Donut Operator]

It's a hard one because right now I think this is one of the wars going into it no one wanted like that was that's one.

[Eli Double Tap]

I guess I wish there was a different Middle Eastern country that like had a massive military that was committed to controlling Iran. I just wish that existed in the region.

[Chris Cappy]

If only.

[Donut Operator]

Whoops, Poor Nick. You're like, I can't say anything. The Port Army, America. He's just sweating over here.

[Eli Double Tap]

Just sitting over here in a reverse Oreo, trying to not get fired.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I'll tell you right now, I've read everything on the back of that damn can.

[Donut Operator]

Don't smile, don't.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Don't make eye contact.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh my God, you gotta go on stuff. How was it? My wife's pissed and the army's pissed. It's not great.

[Donut Operator]

Great time though.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

But themselves though.

[Eli Double Tap]

My views are up. YouTube has to work now. Everything else is officially on the rocks.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, man. Again, it's one of those. I haven't met a vet or gwa vet that was like, okay, let's do this thing. But a lot of the young people, it was crazy watching that reaction. They're excited for it. Which I remember that I'm sure all you remembered that it's that, oh, I want to join, I want to do war. And it's that. 20 years. How long has it been to like, heavy combat in Iraq?

[Chris Cappy]

Afghanistan, It's Afghanistan ended. What was it, over 10 years ago now? Or less than 10, sorry, 8, 7. So. And really then it was kind of really quiet there for five years or so. So people wanted their chance, I think. But I don't know that anyone was like, other than for wanting their chance. Like, I don't know if there was a lot of let's hit Iran because it's the right thing.

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[Donut Operator]

I think we just got. We've seen how it plays out each time so far and this isn't going to be magically different. That's what the hard part is.

[Chris Cappy]

I also. It's not like I want Iran to have nuclear weapons at the same time. So

[Donut Operator]

why?

[Chris Cappy]

It's, you know what? Now that I think about, I never thought about why maybe they should have nuclear weapons.

[Donut Operator]

You know what?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

You did put a positive spin on Kim Jong early.

[Donut Operator]

I know Kim John. I ran with nukes.

[Eli Double Tap]

I hate the America bad people. Well, America has nukes. Why can't they have nukes? The same reason my favorite 3 year old can't have a fucking gun and I can. That's why, dickhead. Like, what are we talking about?

[Chris Cappy]

You know what people forget about that as well is that America is one of the only places that goes around and stops our own allies from having nuclear weapons. We stopped Taiwan from getting nuclear weapons. We stopped South Korea from getting nuclear. Taiwan was a hair away from getting nuclear weapons. And we came in with the CIA and we were like, stop that or we're done helping. Helping you.

[Donut Operator]

I've heard hair. I've never heard hair. So this is a new measuring system,

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

new unit of measurement I'm adding to the toolbox for later.

[Donut Operator]

YouTube safe.

[Chris Cappy]

I'm not comfortable saying the C word. I'll turn red.

[Donut Operator]

What is. So now you've been doing history for years now. What is one of your favorite stories you told up to this point?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Ooh, man. I had to go back through my old videos. Ron Terry, I think that's, that's up there. Ron Terry. So Ron Terry was the father of the gunship. So like the AC47, C130 and all that. So it's.

[Donut Operator]

What's that?

[Eli Double Tap]

AC130.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I thought you said AC47.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's the predecessor to it.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, okay. No shit. Okay.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah. So it was like, I mean, it's that in and of itself. Guy made gunship. That's cool. But like the, the intensity of how he got it done. Just, it was just this year after year, someone else kept trying it. And of course military not wanting to change. They're like, that's not how we do things. Air Force is like, that's not how we do things. And another guy would pick it up, another guy pick it up. And then this guy finally is Like I'm doing this. And he just finds an AC47 and some miniguns somewhere, shows these SOCOM guys and somehow he bullshits his way into a meeting with Curtis. Is it Curtis LeMay? Trying to think his first name?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, I think so.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

General lemay. He was like the guy over the Air Force at the time and the rest was history essentially. But even then was like he still. It was just one obstacle after another. Even after the Air Force signed off on it, people were still like no, you can't do that.

[Donut Operator]

No shit.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

They said, go to Vietnam, your AC47s will be there. And they were like blocking him from having them.

[Chris Cappy]

So much bureaucracy.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. And war, which is wild.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's not a hard pitch. Like what if I did a drive by out of a cargo plane? How dope would that be? I'm not feeling it.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

But it's always.

[Eli Double Tap]

What do you mean?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

But it's like you're always saying it comes down to can we do something better for cheaper? And that undermines someone's got interest. Right.

[Chris Cappy]

The AC130 is so much res. Love that.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And so he's the individual that just like I'm going to build a ship around a gun.

[Eli Double Tap]

So actually, so there was a like AC130C47 is. It's a fucking cargo plane that they put mini guns and artillery out the side.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And it's just like instead of having, you know, a fast mover like a F4 Phantom fly over and throw some gunfire and drop a missile and be able to make two passes and then like, okay guys, don't die for five more minutes till the next sortie gets to you. It's like, what if we just had a fucking Cargo ship with 8 tons of ammo doing fucking death donuts around these guys constantly 24 7.

[Donut Operator]

And we see it in infrared.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, I like, I like finding stories like that where someone, they just kept pushing the envelope just trying to find a solution to it. Like one of the early videos I did was on the ACH47 Alpha. So it was called the Guns A Go Go program. So it was a Chinook. So the Chinook was still like new back then. And someone was like, I can't remember who came up with the idea, but it was endorsed by General Tolson, I think. But anyway, they were like, what if we just turn this cargo helicopter into a gunship? Because all the. Because the theory was all gunships, they have to shoot forward and they can't shoot back. So you never fly over what if we just put guns all the way around it and grenade launchers and rockets,

[Eli Double Tap]

we'll stabilize the plane with gunfire from all sides.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, like I did.

[Chris Cappy]

The recoil forces just cancel each other.

[Eli Double Tap]

They'll cancel each other out. It'll be great.

[Chris Cappy]

It won't rip it apart.

[Donut Operator]

Enemies are on the right. And a huge family having you picnics on the left. Son of a bitch. Let it flip.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

The thing was. Thing was dope. I did the math on it and I had some backlash in the comments. But you know, math doesn't care about your feelings. The power to weight ratio, by my estimates, I don't think there's been a helicopter, we've ever aircraft, we've ever field that had a higher power to weight ratio. Cause you could just carry so much. Like it had a gross weight of like 33,000 pounds and I think it could carry 15,000 pounds of ammo. Cause they stripped everything out of this thing.

[Donut Operator]

That is a lot of ammo.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, the pilot has to fucking readjust the throttle as they dump ammo. Cause they're constantly getting lighter.

[Donut Operator]

Oh my God, you're right.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah. There were only two seats in that thing for the pilot and co pilot. No one else had seats. They were just sitting on ammo crates and stuff.

[Donut Operator]

Sounds dangerous. I mean, you're good, but also just Vietnam.

[Eli Double Tap]

Same. Have you ever seen my Ching Lee video? Yeah, he's like one of my favorites for doing that. Yeah, so Ching Lee, the general, he's like most known for being the battleship commander in World War II. So he was an Olympic sniper. He actually held the American and maybe the world record for like the most Olympic medals for a while, all for sharpshooting. And he had really, really bad eyesight.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, okay.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. So like prior to him like really getting into battleships and pioneering all that, he got put in this like admin position leading up to World War II where they basically told him like, you're really detail oriented, whatever, just go around the military and unfuck everything. Well, he got fed up with like the bureaucracy. So he's the reason that like every square free inch of space on the deck of a U.S. ship in World War II was covered with AA guns and 50 cals, because like he knew that it was going to be an air fight. Like he was responsible for a lot of key decisions. He was pivotal in like the VT fuse getting developed, which was arguably a bigger deal than the nuclear bomb in World War II. Like all these decisions he was behind during this period of time. PT fuse, variable time fuse, proximity fuse, what he was talking. So that came out in World War II. Basically, it's an artillery round. And prior to this, it was either mechanical or just free shot. So it was like you would have to set the timer and tell the. The ammunition window explode. So you had to fucking guesstimate. Oh, that plane looks three seconds away. Set the timer and then if it. You miss all the time. Like, the odds of shooting down a plane were very, very low. The VT fuse is a proximity fuse. It emits a little radar transmission. And then once it gets. Once it gets thrown back at it, it knows that the plane's within 15ft or whatever, and then it explodes. So it was absolutely pivotal in World War II. The Germans, we used it against them because you didn't just have to use them against planes. You could basically have your artillery be air burst then. So instead of having your artillery hit the ground and explode, it would explode 15ft over everybody's heads. God. So, I mean, they were cutting down forests. The Germans were blown away by it. Nobody could figure out how we did it because the ammunition manufactures its own battery in mid flight. That's it. Because.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

So it's got the. The lead wafers and then the acid inside of it, which. I want to come back to the vial of acid thing in a second. But. So he was like behind all these decisions. But the funniest part is to cut through all the bureaucracy that he's talking about. He was getting mad that it was taking so long to get his paperwork through because there was like three rubber stamps you could hit it with. It was like standard priority and urgent. Urgent was the most important. He was stamping everything urgent. Like, I'm fucking important. Let's get this done. It wasn't getting through fast enough. So he had a custom rubber stamp made that was frantic. And he used. And he used red ink that way.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Any.

[Eli Double Tap]

Any Joe Blow handling the paperwork. Be like, frank, I've never even seen this. And like, take off running. And that's like how he, like, railroaded so much through.

[Donut Operator]

That's no. That is. No one knows.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

In the fucking military.

[Donut Operator]

He was like, I don't.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're some E4. Go take this to General so and so. I'll see how important to do. I have time for lunch. Oh,

[Donut Operator]

We have to do it now as E4. You're not gonna know. Think when you're in the middle.

[Eli Double Tap]

You want to.

[Donut Operator]

How many generals have you met in your position right now?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

U.S. 20, maybe.

[Donut Operator]

Okay. You've actually met quite a few He's a major, though. He's a hell yeah. That's true.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Four stars.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I've met two. Four stars.

[Donut Operator]

Which is still like that.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

But I don't man, I'm. Choose my words carefully. Choose my words. I don't get in trouble.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. Them generals.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Well, I guess.

[Donut Operator]

Okay, so don't be really tactical here.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Them all I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do an officer thing to caveat what you said.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. To piggyback off. Piggyback off of what you Nick said, man.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I'm like a horrible officer. I do not care about the dog and pony show stuff. I don't look at the next rank like, you're a great officer. It's some really uncomfortable conversations with senior leaders sometimes. Like, you ever thought about X White? No, I haven't.

[Eli Double Tap]

You ever thought about treating them like people? Absolutely not.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, dude, it is especially. I don't know why we don't treat them like people in the Guard. Because you could have like there could be an E3 who's like a truck driver who has a business that makes like a quarter million a year. And it's like, well, why is he in the Guard? Probably because he's bored or just wanted to do something different. Or maybe he just wanted the insurance.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Like there's a bunch of. But you never know that if you just. They're people, just talk to them. That's going to get me in trouble. That's fine.

[Donut Operator]

No, you're good. That's a great thing to say. That is a proper leader, in my opinion.

[Eli Double Tap]

So with like the. The vial of acid thing inside the VT fuse. You know what that vial was? Christmas lights.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, just they.

[Eli Double Tap]

They went to GE because they're like, oh, we need millions and millions of tiny little vials filled with liquid. So they went to ge, the biggest manufacturer of Christmas lights in the country. I was like, hey, guess what? You're not making Christmas lights anymore. Start putting acid in these vials. Give them to us. Don't ask questions. And like the reason I bring.

[Donut Operator]

Ah, yeah, yeah, we 100%.

[Eli Double Tap]

But like the reason I bring that up is like one of the. We were talking about war bonds and just like the random shit that interests me because I was an electrician that always worked in factories. So like I've been around manufacturing, mass producing. It's always been like super interesting to me. Like if I had a time machine, I would want to go back and see what it was like working in a factory in World War II. Like, because you go to A factory. Now it's like, what are you guys doing? Oh, we make fucking. The eggs that go inside Egg McMuffins every day, and we watch them come out of the oven, and then we freeze them and we package them. It's like nobody's super motivated to do their job. You know, they're just showing up, they're punching the clock, whatever. But, like, I don't know what was. What was the workplace like when you're working at the Christmas Light factory? And then one day it's like, hey, we're building these so our boys over there can go fuck people up. Tommy's super motivated because his son's on Waddle Canal right now. You know what I mean? Like, what was the morale of the general workforce like when everybody knew? I bet it was through the roof.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I bet that morale was. So there's a sword. Yeah, I was gonna. Man, there's a wall. In the National World War II Museum in New Orleans, there's a wall and it shows, like, this many million. Like, just this company made this many million crates. Like, just things you don't think about, like. Or just rifles or whatever. And. Yeah, I'd love to make a video about, like, Singer. The sewing machine company, they used to make, like, pistols, like 1911s. Like you said, Ford made the bombers. What were some of the other. I made a video on the M18 Hellcat. I'm pretty sure that was Buick.

[Donut Operator]

No shit.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Made that. It's just all these companies just spun up and they did what they needed

[Donut Operator]

to do and they manufactured a shit ton. Because that's like, Ford. I know they rolled out a lot. A lot of plays, right?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah. I don't know the exact numbers. It's something I want to get into.

[Chris Cappy]

That's another level of meaning and, like, purpose behind your work.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's what I mean. What is the workplace? Because I don't know, we've all been to a job that we're just like, I'm literally just here for money. I'm not passionate about this at all. It's like, what is it like when everybody, or damn near everybody knows a kid, whether it's their. Their kid, a nephew, the kid down the street that they watched grow up for the past 10 years is like, oh, shit, my car factory that I've worked at for 15 years, we're making tanks right now, and that kid is gonna potentially drive in this fucking tank.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

And, like, every little thing I do might save his life or whatever. Like, that's crazy.

[Chris Cappy]

There's a Couple of times. I feel in history where there's been a national spirit, and I don't know that it even always, like, has to be war. I think sometimes there's just that kind of meaning and purpose behind something that we're building as a nation. And it's important that we get this done.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think the closest thing for, like, me would be like Hurricane Katrina where, like. Yeah, I was from. And we were doing like, fundraisers and sending food and water and all kinds of stuff. Like, that's the closest thing I've ever experienced. I don't think it was anything to scale, but. But that was like the one thing from my own.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I was literally gonna mention. I was down. I live on the. Well, I'm not gonna say where I live, but that's where I was from, that area. And like, so I remember that 05 era seeing, yeah, communities come together. But that also had a big impact on me wanting to join, like, the military. Cause I saw the guard come out in force and just like, holy crap. Just people all coming together. I like seeing that. All the natural disasters and stuff. I don't like seeing natural disasters, but people coming together, everyone coming together.

[Donut Operator]

I love seeing natural disasters.

[Chris Cappy]

Maybe when we. When we took all the land from the Native Americans, that might have been a good. That was like a national project that we could kind of all get behind. That was that.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

That was kind of like a. Technically, you're not.

[Chris Cappy]

I mean, we rallied, got together and

[Donut Operator]

we rallied as a country.

[Chris Cappy]

This place is ours from the sea of casinos.

[Eli Double Tap]

There's casinos or not.

[Donut Operator]

We're giving you $5 an acre. I don't know what the fuck the problem is. Here's some blankets. Why are they sick? It's like, Jesus Christ.

[Chris Cappy]

All I'm saying is we need another national project like that. Not exactly like that.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Well, I mean, you're talking about. Talking about Greenland, trying to get that a national project.

[Chris Cappy]

Greenland, you're our next project. You're gonna pull us together,

[Donut Operator]

dude. Ford 1941 made 900 or 691,000 automobiles, and only 160,000 were for civilians.

[Chris Cappy]

That's what I like to say.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

That's awesome.

[Donut Operator]

Or vehicles.

[Chris Cappy]

They're going back to them again today. Now for the first time since World War II. They're going to Ford. GE and they're asking them to start helping with military production at scale.

[Eli Double Tap]

Thank no.

[Chris Cappy]

If you take a look, there's all these articles about them going the. The Pentagon going to Ford.

[Eli Double Tap]

That was Randy, by the way.

[Chris Cappy]

I mean, it's Sounds like sucks that he's.

[Eli Double Tap]

That was. Well, what's the new army light vehicle called?

[Chris Cappy]

The isv.

[Eli Double Tap]

Isv. The ISV is a Chevy Colorado. That's what it is. And it's like, oh, well, let's have the Humvee, where all the parts are different and unique and they have to be made by some contractor that manufactures shit very slowly. That way if does hit the fan, we run out of parts to fix it. Or we could just take the Chevy Colorado, which is already used to mass producing fucking everything, and then it's just, oh, it'll be harder for the civilians to find parts at O'Reilly's. It's like, why wouldn't you do that? It's what won World War II. Why would you change that? I mean, so fucking Halliburton can make more money. Dick Cheney can buy an eighth heart. Fuck off.

[Donut Operator]

And he still has the other seven. It's crazy. Just all pumping inside. He's a space Marine. It is. Randy got rid of what, the helicopter two. Because they were over budget. Remember the next generation helicopter that was supposed.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, because every helicopter pilot I've talked to, including multiple guys from 169th or what is. Oh, yeah, yeah. 1 60th, the Night Stalkers. Like, I talked to some dudes that are like living legends from there, and they're like, the VTOL doesn't fucking work. I showed you the videos like a year ago because the Marines have the Osprey. And he's like. Even the pilots were like, I don't know what the fuck it is with having two whirly gigs on top. But it creates this cyclone current that up everything around it. It's way worse. Like when you watch the Marines try to fast rope out of an Osprey. The rope, you fast rope out of anything. The ropes hanging down by its own weight. And then they slide down. And Osprey, it's like the ropes out the back and it's coming down at like a flat 45 degree angle. And the first dude down has to lay across the rope to hold it for all the other guys to get down. And then there's. There's another video where they didn't Osprey flyover for like a family FRG event. And it's like out at a park in the woods and they go to fly over and it's folding the trees down. And the family has to take off running because the wind currents coming off this thing are ripping the trees apart, throwing shrapnel everywhere.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Johnny, no,

[Eli Double Tap]

he's like it just, it doesn't work. It's a bad idea. It's a bad design. The one by Bell I think is

[Donut Operator]

the one that won the valor.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. And it should have been the other one, the one that looks like a submarine fucked a Blackhawk, do you know what I mean? It's got the submarine propeller sticking out the back to go faster.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, that pusher propeller. So man, I can't quote it directly but so I made a video about the Apache and I was looking into it so the I think I determined inadvertently the Air Force create forced us to create the Apache because we came out with the Cobra and that was the plan was to do the Cheyenne that had that pusher prop. Then the Air Force said no, can't have that, that's our lane. There's some kind of law or whatever. They got all butt hurt about it. So we got rid of the push propeller, put winglets on it and put bombs on it, have the Apache. But then like fast forward now we're looking at that pusher thing again. Personally I think we should just go back to like turbo prop planes. Like the frickin. What's that one they did, the Skywarden or whatever. Yeah, just go to that. It's so much cheaper.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, they kind of are with that. What's the up armored crop duster they're making?

[Chris Cappy]

The wing and ground concept you're talking about?

[Eli Double Tap]

No, it's literally a fucking UP armored crop duster prop plane that they were starting to go back to just because it's got some ridiculously high loiter time for like Special Forces.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh, I know you're talking about the Super Tucano. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like it's just like at least they'll have something there at all times, right? Especially if it's against a not a near peer enemy. You know what I mean? Like why wouldn't you. Not everything has to cost a billion dollars.

[Chris Cappy]

Well, yeah, that's why the A10 is just constantly staying, staying alive.

[Donut Operator]

I hate that they try to stop it though. Like no, it's like please tell me when does this not work yet?

[Eli Double Tap]

I get so annoyed. You know, it doesn't even work that great against tanks. When's the last time we fought somebody with tanks? First of all, it's got, it's got the highest kill rate of friendly fires of any other plane. Okay, A, that's horrible. That's awful. I completely acknowledge that. Also it's the only plane designed to shoot people on the ground. So kind of fucking makes sense not Trying to be a dick about it, but what do you expect?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, ground soldiers still feel at ease when they know one's in the air too. Oh no, wait, we have a tens on. Okay. Yeah, Fuck yeah, we're good. If something goes awry. Hey, yeah, what's up, jtag?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. When the Decepticons were about to win, what did we send a 10? Warthogs, play the scene, man.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

If you seen this, we need air support. We need it now.

[Donut Operator]

It's the. The helicopter was the.

[Eli Double Tap]

What would.

[Donut Operator]

It's the bell. The scalar sky. Right, the bell.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

The Valor is what, like won the contract.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it's 13 billion. And then they just. And then Randy's the one that's like, hey.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh.

[Donut Operator]

So he's seen the, the bill. He was like, what the. And then when it would come out, it was going to be out of date anyways, right?

[Eli Double Tap]

Probably.

[Donut Operator]

And then on top of that, his main focus was okay, expensive. And then watching what was happening in Ukraine. Why are we doing this? Instead of like an unmanned system and then spending money in that field and it was still like five or 10 years off. It was just a smart choice. It's like looking at something and be like, like, why are we doing this? Why are we investing?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I don't know why we don't give units 3D printers.

[Eli Double Tap]

I have things I'm not allowed to talk about yet that I'll tell you later.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

I'm excited. Should have whispered in my ear. I'm excited.

[Donut Operator]

This is great, dude. So on your side, what's the. Do you get to do anything new or cool or is it just like, hey, day to day activity isn't normal job.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

So it. I cannot remember. The army changes its training cycle name like all the time. Like it used to be called Rearm. I don't know what the hell it's called now. You probably know. I don't, I don't know.

[Chris Cappy]

Like, I don't think so.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

No, like, you know, like it's so. I'm just gonna speak for the army. So like the first year is like, you know, train up or whatever or like reconsolidation, whatever the hell it's called. And then next two years you're kind of training up and then you have your big culminating event. So it's like NTC is what we do for armor, jrtc, whatever the hell. Then you deploy or your ready year, mission year, but you have a year in there that's called modernization. And that's when you're getting all your new stuff so because, you know, everything's based on your. Your MTO of your unit. So, like, they may say, hey, now we want to add, like, you mentioned grenadier. Like, that's changing. Well, like a couple years back, they said, hey, sapper squads need a designated marksman rifle. So they gave us these new HK 416s. No, these were. No, no, actually, yeah, I think they were. Yeah, but it was called the M110DMR.

[Donut Operator]

Okay, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Yeah, which. That. Which, by the way, that parts list on that thing, it was like every top tier off the shelf. Like Geisley this, LaRue that, like, everything.

[Eli Double Tap]

Side note, you know who's a designated marksman for their unit?

[Chris Cappy]

Who?

[Eli Double Tap]

Ethan.

[Chris Cappy]

Really?

[Donut Operator]

For his long balls.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes, he was. He was designated marksman when he was a tanker. And you know what he carried for his entire deployment?

[Chris Cappy]

M14.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes.

[Chris Cappy]

No, as a tanker.

[Eli Double Tap]

He's got some of the hardest deployment pictures I've ever seen. Skinny Ethan rocking a decked out M14. Sitting on a PBR stock. Yes.

[Donut Operator]

Hell yeah. I'm surprised I had, bro.

[Eli Double Tap]

Ethan looks hard as fuck in those pictures. It's awesome.

[Chris Cappy]

Still trying to wrap my head. I didn't even know they had designated marksman in tanker.

[Donut Operator]

I didn't know we got.

[Chris Cappy]

Pop open the hatch, you get a

[Donut Operator]

quick M14s kicked in. I want to say, like three or four months into deployment for us. Like, hey, switching these. If you're sdm, it's here, you're getting these. And we're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, these are dope. They work better, too, for certain jobs. So we were. I did not know Ethan had one.

[Eli Double Tap]

Ethan's got some gangster deployment pictures with his EBR fucking M14 skeletonized.

[Chris Cappy]

That's it.

[Donut Operator]

Sniper Ethan, dude, his ball sacks in the air so he knows when the wind's changing. So accurate.

[Chris Cappy]

What the fuck?

[Donut Operator]

No, I never knew that. Sorry.

[Eli Double Tap]

Continue.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh, no, it's. No, if they give us. Yeah, so they'll figure out if we need new stuff, whatever. Like right now, like, I know our unit or our brigade, like, they're fielding the new tank. Like the V3 version. I think last year they got the new Paladins 155s. Which, by the way, like, that was. That was the most. I think I can say this now. I had the biggest freedom boner at. At out in the field, man. Just those 155s were going off in the distance. Literally in a Porta John. Feeling that thing rock literally scared the shit out of me.

[Chris Cappy]

I Love.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Oh my God.

[Donut Operator]

Don't stop yet.

[Chris Cappy]

One more volley.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Dude, I love it.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'm happy and upset at the Russian tank situation with the Ukraine war because I was so sick of hearing Russian tanks are actually better than American tanks. And then it's just, oh, look at the Bradleys up all the Russian tanks.

[Donut Operator]

Look at our non tanks.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, look at our aluminum infantry support vehicle Shitrocking you guys.

[Donut Operator]

Those take people places. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

But then on the counter side it was like, I don't know, Russia was this big scary boogeyman in the closet for decades and decades and decades. And the whole reason NATO exists was to control Russia. And then Russia comes out swinging and not hard enough to take out Ukraine. And everybody's like wait a minute, what's this whole NATO thing about again? And now NATO's like on the rocks, super hard.

[Chris Cappy]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

You know what I mean?

[Chris Cappy]

Yes. Yeah. That's why I always said that exact same thing. People want to pretend that like Russia is going to invade Europe tomorrow. But I mean it's the reason why we're seeing us pull back from Europe right now. Like we're pulling so many troops out because Russia revealed that they suck at war and the Europeans don't kind of don't need us and like they can do it on their own. But yeah, NATO is having like an identity crisis because of that.

[Donut Operator]

I think China would have the same thing would happen.

[Eli Double Tap]

I believe that's exactly China's too embedded in Europe.

[Donut Operator]

No, I mean like if we seen what their capability was because they don't war, that's where you're going to be like oh what the fuck were we afraid of? Military equipment failure. All those little things where that's why

[Chris Cappy]

they're trying to just build up and just an insanely large force so they can overcome their incompetence. It's that it's so is the same way that I used to play command and conquer when I was growing up. Real great, real time strategy game. But the strategy is since I'm not good at strategy, I'll just build up an insane force of tanks that's so large that I can overcome the fact that like I can't think three steps ahead.

[Donut Operator]

Cappy, what's your strategy? Bunch of Chinese billion peasants, Asians as far as I know can see.

[Eli Double Tap]

I mean that's what took out. That's why like knights and armor came to an end. Cuz somebody finally figured out like okay, well these guys are unstoppable. Unless eight dudes unarmored with daggers jump on his back and open his face mask and stab him in the head. It's like, yep, that'll do it.

[Donut Operator]

The people that don't evolve in combat are the ones that lose. What's his name?

[Eli Double Tap]

Miyamoto Masashi.

[Donut Operator]

No other the Sunzo. The Japanese general that before Yoshimoto unified it was. Or Yoshi Nobunaga. Nobunaga is like, now we're gonna use guns. We're gonna use guns. Just wait till they get here and then shoot them. And then they're like, it's so dishonorable. We don't care. You're dead.

[Chris Cappy]

Okay.

[Eli Double Tap]

He cheated. Cool story. You go back.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

He shot at us.

[Donut Operator]

Did you lose? Yeah. Wait, he's coming here now. It's fucking wild. Well, where can we find both of you for. Or where can the Internet find you guys?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

YouTube. YouTube at tactically acquired.

[Chris Cappy]

Find me APYArmy on YouTube if you'd like. Like to check out some of the videos there.

[Donut Operator]

And then I think if we have time for an after show. You guys gonna do like a quick out? Yeah, we do.

[Chris Cappy]

Can I. Can I pee real quick?

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

After.

[Donut Operator]

After we close? Hold on one sec. You're about to pee and I'll join you. We'll sit together.

[Eli Double Tap]

Thank you for coming to the unsubscribed podcast. I was joined here today by Eli Double Tap, Chris Cappy from Cappy Army. Our new friend Nick over at Tactically Acquired because he stole my shit and I am donut operator. Thank you for coming.

[Donut Operator]

We love you. His name's Black Nick.

[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

Damn right I stole that.

[Chris Cappy]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Nick (Tactically Acquired)]

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