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Unveiling the Legends: Dolls of the 60s & 70s
Hosted by Emma Rosa Katharina & Abigail Devoe · EN
The Dolls Podcast spotlights ladies from the 60s and 70s who inspire cohosts Emma Rosa Katharina and Abigail Devoe. With each episode they’ll share the story of one actress, activist, musician, groupie, or fashion icon, with the purpose of proving her lasting influence. They may have lived in the time of the Whiskey A Go-Go and Studio 54, but celebrating the women of yesterday still matters today.
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Linda Perhacs: Seeing Music in Color
2w ago01:39:40Tap to summarizeTwo things we learned from this week’s episode:1. Chat with people at the dentist’s office2. Just make that phone call!This week’s episode is all about the spirit of collaboration. Emma introduces one of her and Abby’s favorite obscure 1970s folk artists, Linda Perhacs. Linda made music like no one else, tapping into her synesthesia to write intricate harmonies and lush tunes. But after recording just one album, the legendary “Parallelograms,” she returned to her straight job as a dental hygienist. Thanks to some dedicated fans, a cold call, and the Tower Records closing sale, Linda found the people who helped her return to music over 30 years later. It just so happens that Abby knows one of these people! An on-the-spot interview with @fernandoperdomoguitar, producer of Linda’s 2nd and 3rd albums, fills out the second half of this week’s episode. Thank you Fernando for joining us this week! “Linda Perhacs: Seeing Music in Color” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🟦(Episode starts at 5:50)Sources:“Artists: Linda Perhacs” Athsmatic Kitty https://asthmatickitty.com/artists/linda-perhacs/“Singer Linda Perhacs Is Making Up For Lost Time” Time Magazine, 2/28/2014 https://time.com/archive/7114291/linda-perhacs-interview/Linda Perhacs, “The Unlikely Music Career of Linda Perhacs” Red Bull Music Academy, 2/25/2015 https://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2015/02/linda-perhacs-featureKim Cooper and Ron Garmon, “LINDA PERHACS’ FIRST MAJOR INTERVIEW” Scram no. 19, 2004 https://www.scrammagazine.com/linda-perhacs-first-major-interview-january-2004/John Paul, “The Healing Power of Music: A Conversation with Linda Perhacs” PopMatters, 9/26/2017 https://www.popmatters.com/the-healing-power-of-music-a-conversation-with-linda-perhacs-2495378104.htmlAnd Abby’s personal interview with Fernando Perdomo, conducted 5/132025Songs used in this episode:Linda Perhacs - “Parallelograms” (1970)Theme from “Rebel Without A Cause” (1955)Linda Perhacs - “Hey, Who Really Cares” (1970)Linda Perhacs - “Chimacum Rain” (1970)Linda Perhacs - “Parallelograms” (1970)Daft Punk - “If You Were My Man” (from the “Electrama” soundtrack, 2007Linda Perhacs - “The Soul of All Natural Things” (2012)Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this week’s episode!
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Marianne Ihlen: Bird on the Wire
4w ago00:59:20Tap to summarizeYou’ve almost certainly heard the story of Pattie Boyd, the beautiful blonde who had two great talents pining for her affection. But have you heard of Marianne Ihlen?From a quaint village in Norway, Marianne fell in love with Axel Jensen, the “Norwegian Jack Kerouac.” Together they journeyed to the Greek island of Hydra, where they were among the first of the island’s ex-pat community. Just as their marriage fell apart, who should show up on Hydra but one of the greatest songwriters of all-time: Leonard Cohen. He will write several of his greatest songs about her, including “So Long, Marianne” and “Hey, That’s No Way to Say Goodbye.” Her humility and kindness influenced Leonard across geographic borders, 3 albums, and beyond. This week on the Dolls Pod, we’re bringing Marianne’s story out from the shadows that her famous lovers’ legends have cast. Plus, Emma and Abby chat about the wonders of Peppa Pig Land, weird allergies, and post-breakup haircuts. Some things really are canon events!“Marianne Ihlen: Bird on the Wire” is available now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🌊(Episode starts at 5:17)Sources:Kari Hesthamar, “So Long, Marianne: A Love Story” Translated by Helle V. Goldman (2017)Sylvie Simmons, “I’m Your Man: The Life of Leonard Cohen” (2018 ed.)Nick Broomfield, dir. “Marianne & Leonard: Words of Love” (2019)“Obituary: Marianne Ihlen, Leonard Cohen’s muse” The Scotsman, 8/13/2016Songs in this episode:Leonard Cohen - “Hey, That’s No Way To Say Goodbye” (1967)Judy Collins - “Suzanne” (1966)Leonard Cohen - “Chelsea Hotel No. 2” (1974)Leonard Cohen - “So Long, Marianne” (1967)Leonard Cohen - “Winter Lady” (1967)Leonard Cohen - “The Stranger Song” (1967)Leonard Cohen - “Sisters of Mercy” (1967)Leonard Cohen - “Bird on the Wire” (1969)Leonard Cohen - “Treaty” (2016)With excerpts from “Boy On A Dolphin” (dir. Jean Negulesco, 1957)Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
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Samantha Juste: Top of the Pops Disc Maid
Apr 1700:45:56Tap to summarizeWe’ve had episodes about Beatles wives and Stones wives, now it’s time to spotlight a Monkee wife! This week’s Doll started as the Top of the Pops disc girl, working as a dolly bird model and rocking with the mad mod London world. Then she met Monkee Micky Dolenz on the set of her TV show, traded her union jacks for Laurel Canyon digs, and rolled with the Hollywood Vampires. It’s a sweet little episode about sweet Samantha Juste!Plus, Emma delivers the best cold open in Dolls Pod history so far: how her son turned green. (Really!!)“Samantha Juste: Top of the Pops Disc Maid” is available now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🌼(Episode starts at 5:10)Sources:Micky Dolenz, “I’m A Believer: My Life of Monkees, Music, and Madness” (1993)Audrey Hulse, “The Truth About Samantha Juste” FaVe Vol. 1 issue 8, April 1968, as reprinted by The Sunshine Factory “Interview With Samantha Dolenz” Monkees Monthly no. 31, 8/1969, as reprinted by Monocled Alchemist: Psychedelic Unknowns“Obituaries: Samantha Juste: 'Disc maid' on 'Top of the Pops' who wrote for teenage girls and launched a range of fashion and jewellery” The Independent UK, 2/19/2014Jan Tuckwood, “Goodbye to ‘the girl in yellow dress’: Iconic 1960s model's death a reminder of the risks of stroke in women” The Palm Beach Post, 2/6/2014The Nilsson documentary Abby mentions is “Who Is Harry Nilsson (And Why Is Everybody Talking About Him?)” dir. John Scheinfield, 2006Songs used in this episode:“Top Of The Pops” themeSamantha Juste - “No One Needs My Love Today” (1966)“The Monkees” themeThe Monkees - “I’m A Believer” (1966)The Monkees - “Randy Scouse Git” (1967)The Monkees - “Cuddly Toy” (1967)Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
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Backstage Pass: An Interview with Genny Schorr
Apr 301:14:39Tap to summarize“I don’t think we thought about anything. We just did it!” - Genny Schorr, about her groundbreaking LA punk band Backstage PassBack in February, we had an awesome chat with musician, stylist, and “All Roads Lead To Punk” author Genny Schorr (AKA Genny Body.) With her band Backstage Pass, she was one of the original LA punks; blending punk with glam rock as they terrorized the Sunset Strip and challenging gender roles. Then she was stylist to the stars at the legendary Strait Jacket boutique, dressing the likes of the Bangles, the Go-Gos, Linda Ronstadt, and so so many more. (Check out Kathy Valentine wearing custom Strait Jacket on slide 6!) Genny is a lifelong music and fashion lover and devoted mom. Through it all, she’s embodied the punk spirit: doing it yourself and not giving a hoot what anyone else thinks! She’s not just “Genny-body,” she’s a trailblazer with a story to tell. Plus: Emma recounts the mystery of the multiplying shelf screws? “Backstage Pass: An Interview with Genny Schorr” is available now wherever you stream your podcasts 🎸(Episode starts at 3:54)Sources used for this episode:Genny Schorr, “All Roads Lead To Punk” (2025)“All Roads Lead To Punk: Genny Schorr INTERVIEW” Ugly Things Podcast, 1/20/2026Jen B. Larson, “Genny Schorr Sees Glitter on the Sidewalk and Stars in Her Eyes in Her New Book, All Roads Lead to Punk” Punk Globe Magazine, 10/2025“Dr. Martens Presents: Women in Punk, Los Angeles” (dir. Alison Roberto, 10/28/2021)Songs in this episode:Chubby Checker - “The Twist” (1958)Elvis Presley - “What’d I Say” (1964)The Beatles - “Girl” (1965)The Leaves - “Hey Joe” (1965)*Dr. Feelgood - “Riot in Cell Block Number Nine” (1975)The Ramones - “Blitzkrieg Bop” (1975)The Damned - “Neat Neat Neat” (1977)Backstage Pass - “Legend” (1977)Genny Schorr and The Boys - “Luckiest Boy In The World” (1982)Visit Genny’s website here: http://www.gennyschorr.com Genny’s Instagram: @backstagepass1977Buy “All Roads Lead To Punk” with Backstage Pass’s “Legend” single from HoZac Books:https://hozacrecords.com/product/pre-order-all-roads-lead-to-punk-book-7-record-set-by-genny-schorr/Eden’s non-profit: http://www.juniorhighlosangeles.com Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos from this episode!
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Joan Baez: The Voice of Protest
Mar 2701:19:31Tap to summarizeOur 2-part Baez sisters miniseries concludes with an episode about the queen of folk music, Joan Baez. From her first appearance at the 1959 Newport Folk Festival, it was clear something was special about Joan. She had a pure voice that softened the blows of her bold activism. She refused to let her income taxes go towards funding the Vietnam War, walked alongside civil rights protesters, walked black children to their first days of integrating schools in the south, and was repeatedly censored by the media for her prisoners’ rights and anti-war beliefs. Of course her early championing of Bob Dylan changed the course of rock-and-roll history, but Joan’s 6 decades of fighting for her chosen causes and leading with her heart have changed our world.Plus: both hosts discuss their favorite David Lynch films, their “only one Dolls Pod host sick at a time” “rule,” and Abby’s terrible Dylan impression returns! “Joan Baez: The Voice of Protest” is available now wherever you stream your podcasts 🕊️(Episode starts at 5:09)Sources:Joan Baez, “And A Voice To Sing With” (1986)David Hajdu, “Positively 4th Street: The Lives and Times of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina and Richard Farina” (2001)Bob Spitz, “Dylan: A Biography” (1989)David Browne, “Joan Baez’s Fighting Side: The Life and Times of a Secret Badass” Rolling Stone, 4/5/2017Andy Greene, “Flashback: Joan Baez Pleads with Bob Dylan via Song” Rolling Stone, 3/10/2016Philipp Oehmke, “Ich habe mich mein ganzes Leben lang in Beziehungen versucht, keine ist je geglückt" Spiegel, 2/28/2018Songs used in this episode:Pete Seeger - “Where Have All The Flowers Gone?” (1955)Joan Baez - “500 Miles (Away From Home)” (1965)Joan Baez - “The Banks of Ohio” (1959)Bob Gibson and Joan Baez - “We Are Crossing at Jordan River” (Live at the 1959 Newport Folk Festival)Joan Baez - “Don’t Think Twice, It’s Alright” (1963)Bob Dylan and Joan Baez - “With God On Our Side” (Live at the 1963 Newport Folk Festival)Bob Dylan and Joan Baez - “It Ain’t Me Babe” (Live at the 1964 Newport Folk Festival)Joan Baez - “Joe Hill” (Live at the Woodstock Music and Arts Fair, 8/16/1969)Joan Baez - “Diamonds and Rust” (1975) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this week’s episode!
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Mimi Fariña: Beyond the Baez Name
Mar 601:00:31Tap to summarize“For rising of the womenMeans the rising of the race.No more the drudge and idler,Ten that toil where one reposes,But the sharing of life's glories,Bread and roses, bread and roses.”Mimi Fariña spent most of her life living in someone else’s shadow. First, she was the kid sister of folk music’s Mother Mary, Joan Baez. Then, she was one half of a duo with her husband Richard Fariña; a mysterious and handsome writer cut down in his prime. Mimi refused to let these larger-than-life figures dictate her story. She found her own voice and her life’s work, establishing her nonprofit Bread & Roses to bring music to isolated communities in the San Fransisco Bay Area, and found her purpose in tragedy.Plus, the Dolls Pod gives…hot takes on classic literature and film? Emma and Abby talk about the difficulties of adapting “Wuthering Heights,” and Emma loves a slow film but declares “Gone With The Wind” is an hour too long. Do you agree?“Mimi Fariña: Beyond the Baez Name” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🌹(Episode begins at 5:40)Bread & Roses official website: https://www.breadandroses.org (https://www.breadandroses.org/)Sources used for this episode:David Hajdu, “Positively 4th Street: The Lives and Times of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina and Richard Farina” (2001)Joan Baez, “And A Voice To Sing With” (1986)Elijah Wald, “Dylan Goes Electric! Newport, Seeger, Dylan, and the Night That Split the Sixties” (2015)Suze Rotolo, “A Freewheelin’ Time: A Memoir of Greenwich Village in the Sixties” (2008)Patrick Morrow, “Mimi Fariña Interview” Popular Music and Society vol. 2, no. 1, 1972. Reprinted by Mimiandrichardfarina.com“Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation” (dir. Laura Archibald, 2012)“Joan Baez: I Am A Noise” (dir. Miri Navasky, Maeve O’Boyle, and Karen O’Connor, 2023)“The Ballad of Mimi Fariña: A biography of the great guitarist, singer, songwriter & humanitarian” Mimiandrichardfarina.comSongs used in this episode:Kate Bush - “Wuthering Heights” (1978)Pete Seeger - “Where Have All The Flowers Gone?” (1955)Joan Baez and Mimi Fariña - “Catch The Wind” (1967)Joan Baez - “Silver Dagger” (1960)Richard Fariña and Eric Von Schmidt - “You Can Always Tell” (1963)Bob Dylan and Joan Baez - “Mama, You’ve Been On My Mind” (Live at the Philharmonic Hall) [1964]Joan Baez - “Birmingham Sunday” (1964)Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Pack Up Your Sorrows” (1965)Mimi and Richard Fariña - “House Un-American Blues Activity Dream” (Live at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival)Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Miles” (1966)Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Bold Marauder” (Live on Pete Seeger’s Rainbow Quest) [1966]The Doors - “Been Down So Long” (1971)Mimi Fariña - “Flowers In The Afternoon” (1967)Blood, Sweat & Tears - “Meagan’s Gypsy Eyes” (1968)Joan Baez - “Sweet Sir Galahad” (1969)Joan Baez and Mimi Fariña - “Morning, Morning” (Live at the 1968 Newport Folk Festival)Mimi Fariña and Tom Jans - “In the Quiet Morning” (1972)Judy Collins - “Bread and Roses” (1976)Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
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Marsha Hunt: The Story of a Survivor
Feb 2000:54:31Tap to summarizeThis week’s Doll is a whole lot more than a name squished into a clickbait slop article. She met Mick Jagger several years into her own storied career; which brought her from the UC Berkeley campus to playing Dionne in the West End production of Hair, then gracing the pages of fashion magazines and performing at Isle of Wight. She’s a novelist and memoirist, activist, actress in TV and film, and a stage 3 cancer survivor. What can’t Marsha Hunt do? Plus, Emma gives an update on her home renovations, and Abby shares her experience at the MCA’s Yoko Ono retrospective and her day with friends of Cynthia Plaster Caster.“Marsha Hunt: The Story of a Survivor” is available wherever you stream your podcasts.(Episode starts at 7:00)Sources used for this episode:Marsha Hunt, “Real Life: The Story of a Survivor” (1988)Marsha Hunt, “Undefeated” (2005)Songs used in this episode:John Mayall - “Brown Sugar” (1967)Marsha Hunt - “I Walk on Gilded Splinters” (1969)Renn Woods - “Aquarius” (From the film soundtrack of “Hair”) [1979]The Rolling Stones - “Brown Sugar” (1971)Marsha Hunt - “Oh No, Not The Beast Day” (1973)Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos mentioned in this episode!
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Florence Ballard: The Real Effie White
Feb 600:54:16Tap to summarize“She was a beautiful person, loving and warm...She was down-to-earth, she loved to laugh, and everyone loved her.” - Marvin Gaye, on fellow Motown star and original Supreme Florence BallardThis week, the Dolls Pod presents the true story behind the Tony-winning musical “Dreamgirls,” and the very real woman that was its muse. Both Jennifer Holliday and Jennifer Hudson won Academy awards for their portrayals of Effie White, based on the fiery founder of the Supremes. Florence Ballard sang on 16 of their top 40 hits, and 9 of their number ones. But she did not have the happy ending Effie gets in “Dreamgirls.” She’s often called “the Lost Supreme,” as she was virtually erased from the group’s history. But as this episode will show you, Flo Ballard was anything but “just a backup singer.” She was brave in the face of hardship and a true trailblazer; the soul of Motown’s first girl group. “Florence Ballard: The Real Effie White” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🎤(Episode starts at 4:50)Sources used for this episode:Peter Benjaminson, “The Lost Supreme: The Life of Dreamgirl Florence Ballard” (2009)Nelson George, “Where Did Our Love Go? The Rise and Fall of the Motown Sound” (2007 ed.)Randall Wilson, “Forever Faithful: A Study of Florence Ballard and the Supremes” (1987)Mary Wilson, “Dreamgirl: My Life as a Supreme” (1986)Maxine Ballard Jenkins, “The True Story of Florence Ballard” (2007)“Unsung” season 2 episode 4, “Florence Ballard” (6/28/2009)“Mary Wilson Gets Emotional Remembering Florence Ballard” via SiriusXM on YouTube, 9/24/2019Songs used in this episode:Jennifer Hudson - “And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going” (From the soundtrack of “Dreamgirls”) [2006]Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers - “Why Do Fools Fall In Love” (1956)Ray Charles - “The Right Time” (1958)Smokey Robinson and the Miracles - “Shop Around” (1960)The Primettes - “Tears of Sorrow” (1961)The Supremes - “Buttered Popcorn” (1962)The Marvelettes - “Please Mr. Postman” (1961)The Contours - “Do You Love Me” (1962)Mary Wells - “You Beat Me To The Punch” (1962)The Supremes - “When The Lovelight Starts Shining Through His Eyes” (1963)The Supremes - “Where Did Our Love Go?” (1964)The Supremes - “Baby Love” (1964)The Beatles - “Money (That’s What I Want)” (1964)The Supremes - “Stop! In The Name of Love” (1965)The Supremes - “You Keep Me Hangin’ On” (1966)Vanilla Fudge - “You Keep Me Hangin’ On” (1967)The Supremes - “Ain’t That Good News” (1965)The Supremes - “People” (1967)Scott McKenzie - “San Fransisco” (1967)Florence Ballard - “It Doesn’t Matter How I Say It” (1968)Sheryl Lee Ralph, Loretta Devine, and Jennifer Holliday - “Dreamgirls” (From the original Broadway cast recording of “Dreamgirls”) (1982)Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos from this episode!
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Jennifer Juniper: An Interview with Jenny Boyd
Jan 2301:32:21Tap to summarizeWe have a very special guest for our season 3 premiere! Thanks to Emma, we got to chat with “Jennifer Juniper: A Journey Beyond The Muse” author Jenny Boyd about her time as a model in swinging London, San Fransisco during the Summer of Love, with the Beatles in India, and on the road with Fleetwood Mac at the height of their fame. We also got to talk about her earning her doctorate, exploring the creative process in her thesis “Musicians in Tune”/“Icons of Rock,” her work in the addiction recovery field, and an exciting new project. It’s well and truly a journey beyond being a muse. Thank you Jenny for joining us this week!Plus, Emma gives a life update on her growing family and how she found her midcentury dream home! “Jennifer Juniper: An Interview with Jenny Boyd” is available now wherever you stream your podcasts 💐Jenny’s website: www.thejennyboyd.comSources used for this episode:Jenny Boyd, “Jennifer Juniper: A Journey Beyond The Muse” (2020)Jim Farber, “‘It’s not what you think’: Behind the star-studded life of a rock star’s wife” The Guardian, 3/30/2020Songs used in this episode:Donovan - “Jennifer Juniper” (1968)Fleetwood Mac - “Purple Dancer” (1971)Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
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Oh, Yoko! Part 2
Aug 2201:19:24Tap to summarize“I think that love will never die. Once you know somebody, you can never unknow that person. And knowing is loving. So you never can get out of love.”The Dolls Pod Beatle Girl miniseries concludes! Part two of our “Oh Yoko!” episode focuses on her music, activism, and of course, we tell the ballad of Yoko and John.Also: car seats and nurseries and baby names, oh my! Emma is settling into her last few weeks before baby arrives. Join us for the emotional season two finale of the Dolls Podcast, available wherever you stream your podcasts ☁️Sources used for this episode:David Sheff, “Yoko” (2025)Jann Wenner, “Lennon Remembers” (2000)David Sheff, “The Playboy Interviews with John Lennon & Yoko Ono” (edited by G. Barry Golson, 1981)Cynthia Lennon, “John” (2005)May Pang with Henry Edwards, “Loving John” (1983)The Beatles, “Anthology” (2000)Alan Clayson, Barb Jungr, and Robb Johnson, “Woman: The Incredible Life of Yoko Ono” (2004)J. Hoberman, “Everything Is Now: The 1960s New York Avant-Garde - Primal Happenings, Underground Moves, Radical Pop” (2025)Elvis Mitchell, “Yoko Ono” Interview Magazine, 11/26/2013Lisa Carver, “Yoko Ono: A Reconsideration” The New York Times, 10/19/2012“One To One: John & Yoko” (dir. Kevin MacDonald and Sam Rice-Edwards, 2025)“Classic Albums: John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band” (dir. Matthew Longfellow, 2008)(Episode starts at 7:08)Songs used in this episode:Yoko Ono - “Yes, I’m A Witch” (2007)Plastic Ono Band - “Give Peace A Chance” (1969)Yoko Ono - “Don’t Worry Kyoko” (1969)John Lennon - “Mother” (1970)John Lennon - “Imagine” (1971)“Glee End Credits Theme” (2009) Yoko Ono - “Approximately Infinite Universe” (1973)John Lennon - “Beautiful Boy” (1980)John Lennon - “Just Like Starting Over” (1980)Yoko Ono - “Talking To The Universe” (1995)Fiona Apple - “I Want You To Love Me” (2020)Yoko Ono, Kim Gordon & Thurston Moore - “Mirror Mirror” (2012)Death Cab For Cutie - “Waiting For The Sunrise” (Yoko Ono Cover) [2022]John Lennon - “Oh Yoko!” (1971)With samples from Monday Night Football, 12/8/1980, and Yoko’s Grammys acceptance speech, 2/24/1982Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
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