Up and Vanished Weekly: "MURDERED: Asian Doe" – Detailed Summary
Podcast Information
- Title: Up and Vanished Weekly
- Host/Author: Tenderfoot TV
- Episode: MURDERED: Asian Doe
- Release Date: July 16, 2025
Overview In this compelling episode of Up and Vanished Weekly, hosts Maggie Freeling and Payne Lindsay delve into the mysterious case of Asian Doe, an unidentified homicide victim found among the notorious Gilgo Beach murders on Long Island. The episode explores the initial discovery, investigative challenges, recent breakthroughs, and expert insights into the complexities of identifying marginalized individuals.
1. The Discovery of Asian Doe and the Gilgo Beach Murders
The episode opens with Maggie Freeling recounting the discovery of Asian Doe amidst a series of gruesome finds along Ocean Parkway, Long Island, in 2011. Asian Doe became one of the most sought-after unidentified victims due to the circumstances of the Gilgo Beach murders, where multiple victims were discovered over a span of months.
Notable Quote:
"Asian Doe was found along with 10 other sets of human remains off Ocean Parkway in New York in 2011... this case is literally close to home for me."
— Maggie Freeling [00:56]
Details of the Discovery:
- Location: Ocean Parkway, Suffolk County, Long Island
- Initial Findings: Eleven sets of remains, including Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy, Amberlynn Costello, and Maureen Brainard Barnes (Gilgo 4).
- Asian Doe: Described as a biologically male individual appearing in women's clothing, aged 17-23, height between 5'3" to 5'9". Cause of death believed to be blunt force trauma.
2. Investigation and Cold Case Status
As the investigation progressed, authorities grappled with identifying the victims. While most were eventually named, Asian Doe remained elusive due to factors such as potential foreign origin, transgender identity, and systemic issues within law enforcement databases.
Notable Quote:
"Everyone except Asian Doe."
— Maggie Freeling [05:47]
Challenges Encountered:
- Misclassification: Initial sketches identified Asian Doe as male, complicating identification efforts.
- Stigma of Sex Work: Many victims were sex workers, leading to underreporting and marginalization.
- Systemic Issues: Police corruption, leadership turnover, and inadequate collaboration between agencies stalled progress.
3. Recent Developments: Arrest and Task Force Renewal
In a significant turn of events, Payne Lindsay reports the arrest of Rex Heuerman on July 13, 2023, a 59-year-old architect suspected to be the Long Island Serial Killer (LISK). However, Heuerman has not been linked to Shannon Gilbert, whose disappearance initiated the mass discovery of remains.
Notable Quote:
"But despite authorities believing they have now found LISK, he has notably not been linked to Shannon Gilbert."
— Maggie Freeling [08:31]
Key Points:
- Arrest Details: Heuerman charged with seven murders, awaiting trial.
- Shannon Gilbert's Case: Unique as authorities have details of her last moments, unlike Asian Doe.
4. Expert Insights: Forensic Genetic Genealogy and Identification Challenges
Victor Velstra, an expert in forensic genetic genealogy specializing in LGBTQ+ cases, joins the discussion to shed light on the difficulties in identifying individuals like Asian Doe. He emphasizes the systemic gaps and cultural nuances that hinder identification.
Notable Quotes:
"There is no safety net. There's big cracks and people fall through them all the time."
— Victor Velstra [17:26]
"When we work together as a community, we can fill in the gaps that currently exist in the official systems."
— Victor Velstra [17:26]
Key Insights:
- Transgender and Queer Identification: Misclassification in databases leads to prolonged anonymity.
- Cultural Barriers: Asian Doe's possible undocumented immigration status and the one-child policy in China complicate identification.
- Genealogy Challenges: Limited representation of Southern Chinese in U.S. genetic databases impedes progress.
5. Efforts to Identify Asian Doe
The hosts discuss ongoing efforts to bring attention to Asian Doe's case, including updated forensic sketches and community outreach to the Asian diaspora. Maggie highlights the importance of culturally sensitive approaches and the release of new facial reconstructions to aid public recognition.
Notable Quotes:
"The new task force flyer depicting the recent facial reconstruction and photos of the clothing will also be released in various Asian languages."
— Maggie Freeling [41:04]
"We want to enlist the public's help."
— Ray Tierney [42:49]
Actions Taken:
- Updated Reconstructions: More feminized sketches to reflect Asian Doe's appearance accurately.
- Multilingual Outreach: Flyers and information distributed in multiple Asian languages to reach broader communities.
- Public Appeals: Encouraging community members to review old photographs and recollections from specific locales like Lucky Chang's club.
6. Community Engagement and Public Appeal
The episode underscores the critical role of community involvement in solving cold cases. Victor urges individuals familiar with the queer and transgender communities in New York City to revisit old memories and photographs that might hold clues to Asian Doe's identity.
Notable Quotes:
"If you're an old queer person in New York City or who used to be in New York City and you knew trans people or drag queens in New York City, you may want to take a look at your old pictures."
— Victor Velstra [37:47]
"That's crucial... things that maybe I wouldn't think of or a cishet white police officer would think of."
— Payne Lindsay [39:03]
Community Resources:
- Social Media Outreach: Victor provides his contact information for tips and case discussions.
- Local Clubs and Communities: Emphasis on establishments like Lucky Chang's as potential hubs for information.
7. Conclusion and Call to Action
The episode concludes with a renewed call to action from Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney, emphasizing the importance of public participation in identifying Asian Doe. A reward of $2,500 is offered for any information leading to their identification.
Notable Quote:
"This is a call to action. We want to enlist the public's help."
— Ray Tierney [42:49]
Final Details:
- Estimated Age and Height: Asian Doe was 17 to 23 years old, standing approximately 5'3" to 5'9".
- Date of Death: Believed to have been killed at least five years prior to discovery, around 2006 or earlier.
- Reward: $2,500 for information leading to identification.
Closing Remarks Maggie Freeling wraps up the episode by emphasizing the enduring mystery surrounding Asian Doe and the collective responsibility to seek justice for the unidentified victim. Listeners are encouraged to stay engaged and spread awareness to aid in solving this haunting case.
This episode of Up and Vanished Weekly offers a thorough exploration of the Asian Doe case, highlighting the intersection of forensic science, cultural barriers, and community involvement in the pursuit of justice for marginalized individuals.
