VANISHED: Reeves Johnson

Summary

Up and Vanished Weekly: Episode Summary – "VANISHED: Reeves Johnson"

Release Date: July 9, 2025

Hosts: Payne Lindsay and Maggie Freeling

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Introduction to Reeves Johnson's Case

In this episode of Up and Vanished Weekly, hosts Payne Lindsay and Maggie Freeling delve into the mysterious disappearance of Reeves Johnson, a 31-year-old man who vanished in the early 1980s from Kittery, Maine. Despite the passage of over four decades, Reeves's case has remained largely under the radar, prompting a fresh investigation led by Payne Lindsay and supported by Maggie Freeling.

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Background and Initial Investigation

Reeves Johnson was last seen in 1980, after exhibiting unexplained behavioral changes and being diagnosed with hypoglycemia—a diagnosis that was not well-understood or easily treatable at the time (07:00). His family, particularly his mother Lisa McDaniel, tirelessly sought answers, maintaining meticulous records and engaging local law enforcement, yet no concrete leads emerged until Payne Lindsay's involvement years later.

Key Quote:

"Nobody else bothered to protect me. Nobody else bothered to protect my siblings." — Michelle, Reeves’s sister (00:44)

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Catalyst for Renewed Interest

In October 2021, Payne Lindsay discovered an article about Reeves's disappearance through a Google alert. Realizing the case lacked visibility, he reached out to Sergeant Brian Kummer of the Kittery Police Department. This connection led to a collaborative effort, granting Payne access to Reeves's case files and family members, reigniting efforts to solve the case (03:36).

Key Quote:

"The timeline is so bizarre, and it just doesn't seem like this man just chose to disappear." — Payne Lindsay (05:00)

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Detailed Timeline of Reeves Johnson's Disappearance

February 1980:

• Reeves's family, Barbara and Kemp Johnson, monitor his post office box, hoping he would come to collect his final paycheck.
• On February 24, 1980, a mysterious man with a red hat accesses Reeves's P.O. box, throwing away items and claiming Reeves is in Portsmouth. The man flees before Barbara can follow, leaving only a partially identifying photograph (05:47).

Subsequent Events:

• Reeves exhibits unusual spending patterns leading up to his disappearance, including large, out-of-character purchases that raised suspicions among investigators (34:11).
• Despite numerous checkbook activities suggesting possible foul play, no definitive evidence has surfaced to explain his sudden vanishing (35:11).

Key Quote:

"If you're gonna take him, then go ahead and take him." — Payne Lindsay (03:09)

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Challenges in the Investigation

One of the primary hurdles has been the lack of reliable eyewitness accounts and insufficient forensic evidence:

• The lone photo of the stranger in the red hat is obscured, providing minimal leads.
• The Volkswagen Beetle Reeves owned was never fully analyzed, with no fingerprints or forensic data obtained.
• Potential sightings of Reeves after his disappearance are based on unreliable eyewitnesses, a significant issue given the era's limited technology (36:45).

Key Quote:

"His communication is constant with his family... so I don't think that he would have just left his family hanging like that without answers." — Payne Lindsay (45:01)

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Theories and Speculations

Several theories have emerged regarding Reeves's disappearance:

1. Foul Play:

   • Despite Reeves not appearing to have substantial financial means, some speculate he could have been a victim of a crime, possibly linked to the hitchhiker he picked up.
   • Payne Lindsay suggests, "We think that maybe this situation was just somebody taking advantage." (55:46)

2. Voluntary Disappearance:

   • Given Reeves's history of generosity and lack of motive to disappear, this theory is considered less likely.
   • Lindsay states, "He would have communicated... because it's just left this gaping hole." (45:01)

3. Medical Emergency or Accident:

   • Reeves's hypoglycemia could have led to a medical crisis, resulting in his disappearance under unexpected circumstances.

4. New Identity:

   • While possible, especially in the pre-digital era, this would require Reeves to maintain his medical regimen, which seems implausible without informing his family.

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Ongoing Investigations and New Leads

Payne Lindsay and his team have uncovered new information:

• Reeves previously worked at a Borderline Restaurant in 1981, a detail unknown to his family (53:01).
• They have identified a girlfriend named Cheryl, whose current whereabouts and involvement remain unclear.
• Efforts to locate Cheryl are ongoing, with hopes that she can provide crucial insights into Reeves's last known activities (53:55).

Key Quote:

"We do think that somebody maybe took advantage of him, like, maybe there was a medical event, maybe there was an accident." — Payne Lindsay (55:46)

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Community Involvement and Call for Information

The hosts emphasize the importance of public assistance in solving Reeves's case. They encourage listeners to share any information that could lead to breakthroughs, highlighting the potential of increased visibility in uncovering new leads.

Key Quote:

"This is film, this is... there is no CCTV, there's no cell phones. Like today, you would have 20 photos of the man." — Payne Lindsay (43:52)

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Conclusion and Future Directions

Payne Lindsay and Maggie Freeling conclude that the most plausible scenario is that something untoward happened to Reeves, potentially involving someone he knew. They remain optimistic that continued investigation and public engagement will eventually bring resolution to Reeves Johnson's enduring mystery.

Final Quote:

"We desperately want to bring him home and recover him and have the family have that peace of mind." — Payne Lindsay (55:46)

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How to Help

Listeners are urged to contact the Kittery Police Department if they have any information:

• Detective Bryant Kummer
• Email: [e-mail]
• Phone: [phone]

Additionally, outreach can be made through the Murder She Told podcast and the Up and Vanished Weekly social media platforms.

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Timestamp References:

• 00:44 Quote from Michelle about family protection
• 03:09 Payne on unexpected investigation involvement
• 05:00 Payne on bizarre timeline
• 05:47 Rob's detailed narration of February 24, 1980
• 07:00 Discussing hypoglycemia diagnosis
• 10:43 Discussion on photo's absence in original investigation
• 34:11 Analysis of Reeves's spending patterns
• 35:11 Large, out-of-character purchases
• 36:45 Struggles with unreliable eyewitnesses
• 43:52 Lack of comprehensive photo evidence
• 45:01 Payne on Reeves not voluntarily disappearing
• 53:01 Discovery of Reeves's work at Borderline Restaurant
• 53:55 Introduction of Reeves's girlfriend, Cheryl
• 55:46 Payne's conclusion on foul play
• 58:12 How to follow and support the investigation

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Note: This summary excludes advertisement breaks and non-content sections to focus solely on the investigative narrative surrounding Reeves Johnson's disappearance.

Transcript

[Payne Lindsay]

You're listening to a Tenderfoot TV podcast.

[Maggie Freeling]

You said nobody wants to believe there's a monster in their family. You think she's a monster? I don't want to, but I don't know how else you describe somebody who does those things to children. Michelle has lived in the shadow of her family's dark past for decades. But now she's ready to bring it into the light. Nobody else bothered to protect me. Nobody else bothered to protect my siblings. Michelle's mother, Lisa McDaniel, managed to keep her past buried. Lisa seemed to find every crack in the system to get her daughter's back. And then she had a third child, her son, Colin Lord.

[Payne Lindsay]

If you're gonna take him, then go ahead and take him.

[Maggie Freeling]

Please do it now.

[Payne Lindsay]

You should see my face right now.

[Maggie Freeling]

Cause I'm thinking, did he ever really have it?

[Payne Lindsay]

Neither one of those children were suffering because of a dise.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Kristin Seavey]

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[Maggie Freeling]

This podcast discusses mature and sensitive content, including descriptions of violence that may be triggering for some audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Hey y'. All. Welcome to up and Vanish Weekly. I'm Maggie Freeling. Today we're talking about Reeves Johnson, a case that I cannot believe I have never heard about. Reeves Johnson is a young man that in the 80s just vanished and it's surprising to me that people have not been chatting about this case for decades. In fact, this case has barely been covered at all and that is shocking to me. One of the only places that has really done a deep dive is on the Murder She Told podcast about Maine and New England true crime. That is why I'm having Kristin Seavey, the host and creator, join me today to talk about Reeves. I also had her on to talk about another case that really stuck with me, Angel Tony Torres. And when Kristen looked into Reeves Johnson's disappearance for murder, she told she didn't just look into it for a one off case. She wound up becoming pretty obsessed and now she is helping law enforcement solve it. Kristen, I love that you are now like investigating this case. It's very exciting because you are an actual booth on the ground expert.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah, I mean I never expected that for this, I just kind of went into it, like, offering help. And now here I am, uh, confidently saying that I am part of the investigation, which is pretty wild. Yeah.

[Maggie Freeling]

So how did you find Reeves case? I specifically noticed that you said in your episode, you know, you cover cases in Maine, and you had just never heard of this case. So how did you hear about it?

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah, so I get a billion Google alerts for stuff. And one day in About October of 2021, this article popped up about a missing man from Kittery. And I have this Rolodex in my head of all of the, like, especially the Maine cases and, you know, the New England cases. And I hadn't heard of this name, Reeves Johnson. And I'm like, why don't I know about this? And then I started reading the article, and I was like, okay, I have to reach out and just let them know that this exists. If they want coverage, like, I'm here to help. If not, I totally understand. But I just kind of reached out to then Detective Brian Kummer. He's now Sergeant Brian Kummer, and was just like, here's who I am. Here's what I do. If you guys want help getting this out there, I have an audience. And he hopped on the phone with me. We chatted. They invited me down to see the case file and got looped in with the family and spent about two days at the Kittery Police Department going over the file, talking to family, doing interviews, all that jazz. And fast forward about, what, three years now? Um, it's. It's a very special relationship. Like, we're definitely in the fold of the investigation. Um, it's a very transparent relationship. It's unlike any anything else that I have worked on on the show. So, yeah, it's. It's very special.

[Maggie Freeling]

There are a lot of things in this case that make it stand out to me, but what was it to you that stood out?

[Payne Lindsay]

The timeline is so bizarre, and it just doesn't seem like this man just chose to disappear. And then once you get to know his family, they're so wonderful, and you just want to help them. You want to help them get the answers that they deserve. Right.

[Maggie Freeling]

Reeves family has been trying to piece everything together for decades, and they still have no real answers, in spite of the fact that they've had a very compelling lead since pretty early on in the investigation. So let's learn more about that lead and how it fits into Reeves's disappearance. Here's Rob with more details.

[Rob]

It's Thursday, February 24, 1980. Three in Kittery, Maine. As postal workers unlock the door of the rural post office in the quiet tourist town, Barbara Johnson and her husband Kemp settle into the lobby. For the past two days the couple have been staking out the location near the New Hampshire state line, trading shifts between the lobby and their car. Their son, 31 year old Reeves Johnson, suddenly stopped communication with the family a few weeks prior. Concerned for his well being, they've been working with local authorities to try and track him down. They received a tip that his final paycheck would be delivered to the post office near his home. They're hoping to wait for Reeves and confirm he's alright. As the hours tick by, Kemp grows restless and decides to grab coffee for he and Barbara, leaving her to man the post alone. As she sits in silence, she wonders whether something will actually come of their endeavors. Then all of a sudden, a turn of good fortune. A young man, roughly 5 foot 10 tall, between 20 and 30 years old, with long red brown hair and beard, wearing dark green coveralls and a red hat approaches. Barbara watches as he pulls out a key and opens Reeves post office box. As he sorts through the stack, he clutches an envelope and tosses the rest of the contents in the trash. Barbara's heart races as her mind is flooded with questions about who the stranger may be. She pulls out a camera and snaps a photo, then confronts the man asking if he knows where Reeves is. He turns to her. He's in an apartment and Portsmouth. I'll take you to him if you have a car. But in a flash, the man turns and runs, leaving Barbara to process what just transpired. For the past two decades, the photo of the stranger in the post office has been the only tangible lead in this bizarre and complex case. Even now it begs the unanswered questions. Who is the mysterious stranger and what knowledge may he have about the disappearance of Reeves Johnson? From Tenderfoot TV in Atlanta, this is up and Vanish Weekly with Payne Lindsay and Maggie Freeling.

[Maggie Freeling]

You know one of the things that stood out to me about Reeves Johnson's case is that his family is still so active so many years later later that his siblings are still very present in trying to find him. And that is so rare, especially for a case that is 40 something years old. I know you know that, but I think that's really, really special and also disheartening that they haven't gotten answers in all this time.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah, I mean the case was pretty much dormant for about 40 years. So I think that this was kind of a surprise that the Public was now interested in it because they were kind of just fighting this. This thing for themselves. You know, like, Barbara, his mother did her own. Like, she never stopped looking for her son. She had this meticulous file that had all of his estate stuff, all of the phone calls that she made, all of the private investigators that she reached out to, contacts at the FBI. Like, once the police department did what they could, and that's not a diss that. Like, I think that the police department just did everything that they could, and there just really wasn't anything else that they could do at that point. Um, you know, there's. There's no signs of foul play. It just. It is what it is, and they just don't have the resources to keep digging away at it like we do now. But his mom did. And the fact that she never stopped looking for them speaks volumes about her. And I think the family has just kind of quietly held onto that. But now, you know, Brian called and asked if they wanted to put it out into the public, you know, get some visibility for it, because why not? They said yes. So I do think that it was a little bit of a surprise that we're here now, you know, four years later.

[Maggie Freeling]

So that article that you saw was the family and Brian trying to reinvigorate interest in the case, and they released that photo. Is that what you saw?

[Payne Lindsay]

Yes. So that was from Seacoast Online, and it was in October of 2021. And really that was the first time that Reev's name was hitting the Internet. And that was definitely the first time that I saw his name. But that kind of kicked it all off.

[Maggie Freeling]

Now we're going to get to this photo later. But how come it wasn't released in the original investigation?

[Payne Lindsay]

That just blew me away. When I saw it, I was like, how do people not know this photo? Like, if this was on Unsolved Mysteries, everyone would see this photo. But it actually wasn't even part of the original case file. It was in the family's file, which they then shared with Brian when they. They hooked up, you know, in October of 2021, because he asked them if they wanted to get the case out there. I think it was just maybe the case just tapered off really quickly. Like, there was just nothing for them to investigate. They don't know who this man is. I mean, they could have, like, put out a poster. I don't know if it would have led anywhere. It may have.

[Maggie Freeling]

Do you know when and why Unsolved Mysteries denied covering his case?

[Payne Lindsay]

I Think they were interested in it. And then legal team came in and they were like, well, we don't actually know if there's foul play involved. We. He could be voluntarily missing. So, like, let's just take a step back on this one and not. Not do this one. And I just think, like, if they had that photo would be seen, Rave's name would be known. Like, we might have more information now than we do, because people more contemporary to when he disappeared would have possibly have seen that photo and come forward with information. I think that everyone would be interested in bigger visibility because really, like, we don't have any physical evidence. It's all getting it out there. Like, what's going to solve this case? And by solve it, I think, like, we're not thinking that there's going to be some, you know, trial that's going to come from this. Really what we want is answers for the family. Like, I would love to be able to bring Reeves home and recover him and have the family have that peace of mind. But what we need is visibility. Like, people need to come forward with just, like, even just the smallest information. So the visibility of something like Unsolved Mysteries would be awesome, right?

[Maggie Freeling]

Something like Unsolved Mysteries would have been huge. The more exposure you get, the more opportunity there is for more information to come in. We see this all, all the time with cases, and later, I want to make sure we talk about the leads that you uncovered in your investigation because they could help break this open for authorities. So one of the things that has stood out to me in Reeves's case is the type of person he was and the connection he had with his family. Because the more you learn, the more it becomes apparent, at least to me, that he probably does didn't just voluntarily disappear. It just doesn't seem consistent with the kind of person he was. Here's Rob with more details about all of this.

[Rob]

The Johnsons have been described as a very close knit and wholesome family. Reeves was the middle of three children, including older sister Sally and younger brother Hugh. Their father, Kemp, was always drawn to Philadelphia, and he and Barbara eventually decided to put roots down and raise their family in the affluent suburb known as Broadax. Kemp prioritized deep, meaningful dinner table discussions with the family, and before long, Reeves evolved into a profound thinker who was intentional with everything he did. As he grew older, he developed a dry sense of humor and sharp wit and fell in love with reading art, studying philosophy and performing in theater. In the spring of 1970, Reeves began studying at Trinity College. In Hartford, Connecticut. During his junior year, he took advantage of an opportunity to study abroad in Italy. He was excited about what the chance to see the world could mean for him. But when Reeves returned from his time overseas, the family quickly picked up on some notable changes in his behavior and appearance. The following year, Reeves decided to drop out of college, missing his final semester, and moved back in with his parents in Philadelphia. As he settled back in at home, everyone began to wonder what was really going on. All of these changes were very uncharacteristic for Reeves. The once studious and disciplined young man now seemed like a shell of his former self. Eventually, Reeves life of disorder began to drive tension amongst the family. Kemp believed Reeves could simply choose to change and everything would improve. But at the time, no one could have foreseen that the transformation Reeves was going through would begin to lay the groundwork for a series of events that would culminate with his mysterious disappearance a few years later.

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[Payne Lindsay]

So at that point, his grades had started to plummet, and that was kind of strange. You know, he comes from a very academic family, and he's a smart guy. Like, there's no denying that, but something's not quite right. And when he comes back, he just. His behavior is changing. He's sleeping a lot. His skin is, like, kind of clammy and damp, and he's cold, and he's just not feeling good. And it's really, really impacting his life. And it took quite a number of years for them to figure out what was wrong with him, because at the time, hypoglycemia was a novel diagnosis. They didn't know what that was. His family would take him to psychologists and doctors and try to figure out what was wrong with him, and they would just be like, well, get him off drugs. Like, he's on drugs. But he wasn't.

[Maggie Freeling]

He's eventually diagnosed with hypoglycemia, which is low blood sugar. And that's something that is pretty easy to treat today, but at the time was much harder to pinpoint and treat. And not to mention that his symptoms and the way he looked led doctors to believe he may be using drugs. Reeves had this, like, handlebar lemmy mustache, long hair, Canadian tuxedo, you know, denim, everything. He looked kind of like your everyday 1980s man. But, you know, doctors thought that looked like a drug addict.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah, his sister said that at the time, he kind of looked a little like Rasputin. So I think that even his hair in the 70s, because, like, the photos that we have are from, like, the late or 70s, early 80s. So I think at this point, he might have even had longer hair. And the doctors just said, like, well, you know, he's depressed. He has a drug issue, and he just. He didn't. I mean, he might have had some mental health issues, because, like, I mean, this completely changed the trajectory of his life. You know, like, you have this promising road ahead of you. You're smart, you're academic, you have, you know, the family has high expectations of you, and then this thing just comes crashing down and changes your life. And I'm sure that that definitely affected his mental health, right?

[Maggie Freeling]

Absolutely.

[Payne Lindsay]

So he.

[Maggie Freeling]

At age 26, after school, he moves into this single Room cabin in Kittery, Maine. His sister Sally is living near there. He gets a job at a sheet metal manufacturing company. He's taking welding classes. He's kind of trying to get his life together while dealing with this illness.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah. So at this point, when he moves up to Kittery, he is kind of back on track. Like they've gotten it under control so that he can actually function as a human being. And when he feels good, he moves away from Philadelphia and tries to start. Start his life over. So he picks Kittery because his sister's nearby, but they eventually move away because her husband gets a new job. And so he starts working at Donnelly Manufacturing as a welder. Um, his siblings say that he actually really was proud of his work and he really liked it. And I feel like for the first time, he felt like he had a future.

[Maggie Freeling]

Can you tell me about the cabin he was renting? This more like a vacation cabin kind of place.

[Payne Lindsay]

Um, I have a photo on the website of what the cabin looks like. It's basically like, I don't know, like a single room cabin.

[Maggie Freeling]

It's like a little kind of shack thing.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah, pretty much. And we don't have a full interior photo of it. We just have. There's a photo of Reeves and he's talking to his mom in the doorway of the cabin. And in the corner of the photo, you can see the handlebars of a bike. So it looks like his bike is hanging on the wall. And that, to me, says that it's hanging up because there isn't a lot of room on the floor for it. So I think that this probably has enough room for like a bed, a small table, like a studio apartment kind of situation. In the city directory, the cabins were listed as transient. The address for them, Jewett Court, no longer exists. And I think that they were just like weekly to monthly rentals. Maybe some people lived there a little bit more longer term. But, you know, if you came up to go do some hunting in the area, maybe this would be a good place for you to stay. That's like a cheap place.

[Maggie Freeling]

And this is around when he disappears. So can you talk a little bit about the circumstances surrounding his disappearance around Christmas of 1982?

[Payne Lindsay]

That was the last time that the family saw him. He is in Philly. All of them are together. And on his way back home, he picked up a hitchhiker on the Verrazano Bridge in New York City. The hitchhiker's name was Richard. And they ended up going up to Kittery with Reeves. Like, he Never told him where to get off. He never told him where to drop him off. So Reeves just went to Kittery and invited him in, which is kind of strange to think about. I try to put myself in the perspective of this is the, you know, 70s, 80s. Reeves is a very generous person. He was known to pick up hitchhikers. Um, I, I don't know if he was known to like, invite people in, but that doesn't seem like it's outside of the realm of possibility for him. He just, he liked to help people and sometimes he didn't really think about the impacts to himself.

[Maggie Freeling]

How do we know about Richard?

[Payne Lindsay]

He talked to his family about Richard and that's how we know about him. I think after a while, Reeves was starting to get annoyed with Richard because he would just. He wasn't earning his keep, he was eating his food, he was staying at the house. And I think it was just like time to move on.

[Maggie Freeling]

So Richard, for all we know, had a key to Richard's home. He was living there?

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah. Reeves has to work during the day, so he can't keep in touch with this guy and help him out. So he just gives him a key and, you know, he gave him some money for cigarettes and stuff like that. He stayed for two weeks until around January 7, and then he left when Reeves was at work and he took the spare key with him, which is kind of strange.

[Maggie Freeling]

Very strange. I don't know why anyone would take a spare key if you're leaving a place you don't plan to come back to. But what makes this significant is that just weeks after Richard leaves is when Reeves disappears. Now, to be clear, we don't know if there is any direct connection or if these two events are completely isolated. But I can't help wonder if there may be some kind of correlation, especially because Richard had a key to Reeves's house. And authorities would soon discover that some strange things were happening at Reeves's cabin around the time he vanished. And I want to make sure we dig more into this. So here's Rob with details about the timeline around Reid's disappearance.

[Rob]

Beginning on Thursday, February 3, 1983, a series of troubling events started to unfold that would lead investigators and the Johnson family down a path in search of answers. That Thursday morning, Reeves picked up a co worker for their normal workday routine. It seemed like just another day. According to bank records, Reeves would later deposit a seventy dollar check, withdraw thirty dollars in cash and purchase guitar strings. The following day, Friday, February 4, Reeves didn't show up for work. According to co workers, he had never given any indication that he was planning to quit or that he had found a new job. Bank records would reveal that later that day, the equivalent of $208 in today's currency was spent from his account at a grocery store called Shaw's. But authorities would soon learn that the odd circumstances were not limited to Reeves bank transactions. Sometime between Thursday, February 3rd and Saturday, February 5th, a neighbor stated they saw a young man with black hair and mustache wearing a black leather jacket and dark pants knock on Reeves door. He was let in and left a short time later on foot. That same week, Reeves parents were out of town. Reeves had scheduled a routine check in with sally on Sunday, February 6, but they never spoke. Over the next several days, Sally tried contacting Reeves every day by phone, but was never able to reach him. But despite the loss in communication, the abnormal spending pattern continued. Bank transactions would later reveal that during the next several days, additional transactions were made from Reeves account, many of which were at stores far distances from his cabin. Purchases included multiple garments in different sizes from a thermal underwear store worth the equivalent of $160 in today's currency, a $30 withdrawal from Reeves checking account, a $50 withdrawal from Reeves savings account, a purchase at Radio Shack for Bookshelf speakers costing $130 each, and an $80 down payment for a Pioneer car radio with a current value of nearly $740. Additionally, there was a final payment of roughly $650 to Radio Shack for the balance of the car radio. Sunday, February 13, marked one week since the initial missed call with Sally. By this time, Kemp and Barbara had returned from their trip anticipating a check in from Reeves when he missed a second call. They began to grow alarmed. On Monday, February 14, Kemp and Barbara contacted Kittery police. And the next day an officer arranged to perform a wellness check at the cabin with Reeves landlord. But what they discovered only added to the confusion. When they arrived, they noted that Reeves cabin was completely snowed in and there were no signs that anyone had been there for at least a week. The cabin door was unlocked and inside they noticed that the pipes had frozen and all of revenue Reeves belongings were gone. As authorities began to investigate Reeves disappearance, they began a focused search, starting with the places they knew he frequented. They would later learn of a potential sighting of Reeves at a local market. Around this time on Saturday, February 19, an additional transaction was made from Reeves account for $185 in today's currency at the same Shaw's grocery store where items were purchased on Friday, February 4th. While authorities began piecing together the details of the two week period since Reeves had ceased communication, they couldn't help but notice glaring abnormalities. Why would Reeves suddenly stop communication with his family? What would motivate him to quit his job with no apparent replacement? Were these unusual financial transactions merely signaling a change in Reeves spending habits? Or was something more nefarious happening behind the scenes? What investigators later uncovered would dramatically alter the focus of their investigation into Reeves Johnson's disappearance.

[Payne Lindsay]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Kristin Seavey]

Today's case comes to us from namus. According to the outlet, authorities are seeking help with finding a man who disappeared from the Granby, Colorado area on Thursday, June 12, 2025. 51 year old James Robert Hudgens boarded an Amtrak train in California on June 10th and he had plans to travel to West Virginia where a family member lives. Now it's believed he got off the train in Winter Park, Colorado the next day. And then James purchased a bus ticket to Denver. His phone was last used in the Granby, Colorado area the same day and he never arrived in West Virginia. James is described as being 5 foot 9 inches tall and having a weight of 220 pounds. He has short white hair, a long white beard and hazel eyes. He has a Fox Racing logo tattooed on the right side of his neck and he was last known to be wearing blue jeans, a maroon shirt, black jacket and white tennis shoes. So listeners, we need your help in spreading the word about James. You could check out the Upper Vanished Weekly Instagram page, AV Weekly. You can see a picture of James and you can share our post for more visibility. And lastly, if you've seen James or if you know any information about where he could be, please contact Chief Glenn Trainor with the Fraser Winter Park Police Department at 970-722-7777.

[Maggie Freeling]

All right, we're back. So there is some really unusual activity, right? He doesn't just go missing actually his checkbook is being used this entire time. What are we finding with all of this? What did you discover in your investigation? Is this Reeves making these purchases?

[Payne Lindsay]

So it's a very unusual amount of money. Like the grocery store purchases alone don't do not seem like something that one single man living alone in a tiny cabin that probably doesn't even have a full size refrigerator would make. You know this is like 80 to $100 in today's money plus of each purchase and there was three over the course of two weeks. It just doesn't seem like the amount of money being spent on groceries is for one person. Not only that, the grocery store that the money was spent at was not Reeves normal grocery store. It was in Stratum, New Hampshire which is close to Donnelly Manufacturing. But he was known to go to one in Kittery. The purchases are very out of character for Reeves. He was very frugal, like he came from a well to do Family, but he himself did not have money. He just had what was in his bank account, which was maybe fifteen hundred dollars in today's money. It's really not that much money.

[Maggie Freeling]

It would be very odd for him to be making these large purchases. I know in your show you even said groceries were the last thing he would buy. He would pay rent first, he'd pay gas, oil. He'd do all these things. So to make such a large grocery purchase seems very out of character. Not even to mention the speakers when he doesn't have the money.

[Payne Lindsay]

I've read Reeves notes to his family and he would say like, oh, I bought, you know, a vinyl record. Or like he would report the money that he spent to his family in these letters. So I just can't imagine him going off and buying expensive thermal underwear. It was from daymart. They had just come off like being one of the main sponsors for the Olympics. This is an expensive brand. Yeah. So all of the checkbook activity is from after the fact. So we know everything that, like the timeline that we have that's based on the money is from after the bank account was closed and all of the checks were posted or bounced. That's how we know the daily, like day to day activity of this much money was spent here and this much money was spent there. Some of the people did say, like, Reeves has to sign for the checks. I don't know if he had to show ID back then. I'm sure it varied. So we don't know that for sure. But people did say, oh yeah, that was Reeves who came in. But Reeves is kind of like the everyman of the 80s. So like we now today, in retrospect, don't think that those sightings were all reliable because you have to remember that these people were being asked about what they saw at least two weeks after he actually disappeared.

[Maggie Freeling]

Yeah. And I just want to say that eyewitness misidentification is the leading cause of wrongful convictions that were overturned by DNA testing. I know this well. So it, it's really a problem when all we have is witness testimony, especially from weeks earlier. It is very, very unreliable.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah. So this is why Sergeant Kummer, myself and the family say that he was last reliably seen on February 3, which is that Thursday that he went to work. And, you know, his coworkers know who he is, he's coming up for work and doing his shift, so they can confirm that he indeed went to work. Everything after that is up in the air. You know, we only have what was mostly Carved out after the fact from receipts and these eyewitness accounts.

[Maggie Freeling]

What winds up happening with Reeves car?

[Payne Lindsay]

So at this point, they don't know where his car is. They know that he has a car. It's a very distinct car. It's a red Volkswagen Beetle, but they don't know where it is. And then his landlord's daughter spots it at the ExxonMobil because she loved that car, so it stood out to her. And she was like, hey, I think that's Reeves car. And it got taken by the police department. I think Kemp paid the bill for it and then basically just said, like, make Reeves come get it. Like, he is the only person that can get this car. And it has to be him. And it has to prove that he is who he says he is. Nobody ends up claiming the car. And eventually the car. We don't really know what happened to it, but nobody ever claimed it.

[Maggie Freeling]

It was never fingerprinted. It was never enough. No forensics was done on the car.

[Payne Lindsay]

I don't think so. I really don't. I wish that. That we did. We. They had some like, brochures in the back, and they were for like, Minolta cameras, like Radio shack type of stuff. So it does seem like the car may have been used to drive to the radio shack and then dumped somewhere. We don't know where it was towed from, though.

[Maggie Freeling]

So how about this person that was seen knocking on Reeves door? And what do you think about. Was it Reeves who let them in? Because this was during the time he was supposed to be or allegedly missing.

[Payne Lindsay]

Right. So we don't know anything about this man. We don't know who he was. We don't know who let him in. I would guess that it probably wasn't Reeves, but it could have been. But we don't know anything about this man. But it's definitely strange timing because everything that had to be cleared out of his apartment had to have been done before the snowstorm. And the snowstorm happened that weekend because when they went to go do the wellness check, they knew that people hadn't been there for days because the pipes were frozen, the snow was built up. So it did have to happen between, like, a very specific time frame. And we don't know if that's him, but it's certainly strange timing.

[Maggie Freeling]

So when we're saying his place was cleared out, he really was living basically like this one room lifestyle. There would not have been many items to clear out.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah, bare bones. I mean, I think all the furniture was probably there. Like, it probably is included in the rental. But, I mean, we're talking bare bones, like just his clothes and his personal belongings and maybe, you know, a couple of other things like a bike and stuff like that. But, I mean, this is. By no means is this a big house. Like, it could probably have fit in, like, a cargo van.

[Maggie Freeling]

Yeah. And so what they noticed was missing was his tv, some expensive electronics. But what was there was his contacts, which he needed. And that's kind of like today, right? It's one of those things where it's like the car keys and the cell phone are in the house. It's like you're not leaving without that. That is a huge indicator that something happened to him.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah, I mean, he couldn't drive without them. He needed his contacts to drive. So where's he going? Where's his stuff? Where did all of his stuff go? You know, like, it had to go somewhere. So where did it go to? Nobody saw any of it being taken out of the cabin, which makes me think that it probably happened in the middle of the night. But we don't know where it was taken to or when it was taken. We just know that it had to happen prior to that snowstorm.

[Maggie Freeling]

So once the police get involved, they start looking into all of these receipts, the checkbooks. They ask around. They also discover that he has a PO Box at the Kittery Post office, and it was last cleaned out around this time. So they call his work and say, hey, his last check that he's expecting, make him pick it up in person. We want to see who comes to pick this up. But Donnelly's does not do that. They send it to his mailbox, and this is where we get this photo of this man. So what happens once Donnelly sends the check to Reeves mailbox?

[Payne Lindsay]

They got a call from a man who basically said, hey, I'm Reeves. I'm fine. They know about me. I quit my job. Just mail the check. And, you know, for whatever reason, they mailed the check, even though there was a missing persons report out for him. Maybe somebody didn't get the memo, or maybe somebody actually believed it was him. We don't know for sure. Either way, this final check was mailed to Reeves P.O. box. Basically, the family wanted to stake out the post office and honestly, I think hope that Reeves would come in and pick up this check. Like, if you're going to go off the grid, like, you need money, this is an opportunity for them to see Reeves face to face and be like, hey, what's going on? The police department doesn't have the resources to put somebody full time there. So they give the family permission to basically do it themselves. February 24th. This is after two days of them staking out the post office. A man comes in, goes over to Rave's mailbox, opens it up and takes out everything except for the. The check. Throws everything out and starts to walk out the door. And Rave's mother confronts him, and she's like, where's my son? Like, who are you? And the man just says that Reeves is in an apartment in Portsmouth and I'll take you to him if you have a car. She snaps a photo of him and starts to go outside thinking that he's, you know, gonna do what he says, he's gonna take her to her son. And the second they get outside, he takes off running, and she just. She can't catch up to him. They don't have the car there because Kemp just happened to be away getting a cup of coffee. But they have this photo. And, you know, this is film, this is. There is no cctv, there's no cell phones. So, like, today, you would have 20 photos of the man. You would have a video, you would have TV footage of the man. Back then, you only had one photo. And when she got it developed, he had his hand in front of his face, and it completely covers his face, so you don't see any identifying features. You just see this red hat, this, like, reddish brown hair coming out from the side, and this giant hand blocking everything.

[Maggie Freeling]

It is truly a moment of luck that he was able to block his face. So did the police take her to get a sketch drawn of this man?

[Payne Lindsay]

They did not. And I don't know why that is. I wish that we had that. I do know that some of the evidence was saved. I think the envelopes were saved, but we don't have them today, so we don't know what happened to them. You know, tiny police department probably just clearing out stuff that they don't think is going to come up. I don't know the reason for sure, but we don't have them. And that's something, in retrospect, I wish we do have. And I also wish that somebody had done a composite sketch of the man, too. We do have a description of him, but I think a composite would have really, really helped because, again, this man also looks like the everyman of the 80s.

[Maggie Freeling]

So let's talk about some theories. How likely is it that you think Reeves voluntarily disappeared? What did you find in your investigation that would make people think this was a Possibility.

[Payne Lindsay]

You know, Reeves was a very, like, leftist thinking person. He. He was very open minded. So they thought that maybe he might have gone off the grid or gone off the grid to, like, join some cult or something like that. And because it was the early 80s, like, that was in the news a lot. So Reeves mother, Barbara, actually, like, kind of joined this, like, underground group to try to infiltrate it and see if her son might be a part of it, because they thought that that could be a possibility. At the end of the day, I don't think they think that he went off the grid. Like, Reeves needs medication. There's been no Social Security activity. I mean, I guess you could argue that maybe he got a new Social Security. And, you know, I think it was easier back then to just start a new identity than it is today. But he would have to go get diagnosed with hypoglycemia under his new identity and get medication because he couldn't live without it. I don't think that he voluntarily went off the grid. And I think even bigger than that, if he did go off the grid, I think he would have told his family. Um, it's very clear to me, like, his communication is constant with his family. And by constant, I don't mean like daily. I mean back in 1980s times when it was like, there's a weekly phone call, there's regular letters, there's 1980s ways of communication that's happening, and then it just all of a sudden stops with no explanation. So I don't think that he would have just left his family hanging like that without answers, because it's just left this gaping hole that he could have changed by just being like, hey, I'm gonna go off the grid. I'm gonna be fine. I'll be. I'll be back in a little bit. I just need some space. I think that he would have communicated.

[Maggie Freeling]

That be back after a short break, y'.

[Payne Lindsay]

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[Maggie Freeling]

So it seems like the strongest theory, especially because we know there is another person involved in all of this, is foul play. Um, I guess for me this just goes back to the hitchhiker he picked up in the beginning. Like have the police tried to track this person down? Could this person have something to do with his disappearance?

[Payne Lindsay]

I don't think we put too much weight on Richard. We also don't even know his last name. The reason why I don't know if it would be Richard is Reeves really didn't have a lot to steal. So I don't think that if there was foul play that Reeves would be somebody that you would target to like Rob and kill and take his money. Like, you would think that you would want to go after somebody who has money. Like, at the end of the day, he really doesn't have that much in his bank account, and he's living in a cabin that in. In the. The city directories, Transient is listed as the people. Like, because people will just come and rent them for, like, a month or two months or a couple weeks and stuff like that. Um, so I just don't know if he would be a target of, you know, a kill and rob situation. Never say never, of course, but I think that that also would have had to make Richard remember where Reeves lived and also where he worked, which he didn't go to work with him. But for some reason, all of these purchases were mostly happening somewhere in the Portsmouth, Exeter stratum area. So it just doesn't seem like it could be Richard, but never say never.

[Maggie Freeling]

So in your active investigation, you guys discovered some things. You discover that he was actually employed at another place that no one was aware of, called Borderline.

[Payne Lindsay]

Yeah. So about a year ago, we went down to Kittery. My partner and I and Brian Kummer, we decided to digitize some of these files, because for me, Kittery is quite a drive. And we thought, like, if we have all of our key resources digitized, like, we can work on it from anywhere. So we went down to digitize Brian's file, We digitized the family's file, and we also went through some case records, like from the time. And these are records that have not been opened since 1983. At the point that we're at where we'll take anything to look into. Um, so we just wanted to see if maybe there were some names that we hadn't seen come up before. And we also went through the dispatch logs, and I took the dispatch logs, and I was looking at the timeframe when Reeves was reported missing. And basically, Kittery put out, like, a BOLO to all of the other police departments in the area. Because this is, like, a very tiny area. York PD got back to them and said that they had it on file that Reeves had a York address in 1981, and that he was working at Borderline restaurant as a dishwasher, and that it seems like such tiny information, but that was new information to us. This was a job that his family doesn't remember. But what we love about discovering Borderline is that it opens us up to asking specific info for specific information. So now I can be like, hey, did you work at Borderline Restaurant in 1981. Do you remember this man? That was huge.

[Maggie Freeling]

And.

[Payne Lindsay]

And did you find anything from that?

[Maggie Freeling]

And. And what were you hoping to find? Like, if you found someone, what do you think they could tell you? Provide.

[Payne Lindsay]

You guys, really, what we're looking for is more information on his day to day life. So anything that could open us up to other people who might be able to fill in blanks. So a coworker who's like, yeah, I had lunch with him every day and he said that he would go to this bar on Thursdays and maybe play his guitar and do open mic night or something like that. So then we could seek out people at the bar to see if they remember him. Just kind of filling out this day to day schedule because other than his work, we don't really know what he did.

[Maggie Freeling]

So there was something else you guys found while going through all these files. You found the name of Reeves girlfriend, and her name is Cheryl. Where has this lead taken you?

[Payne Lindsay]

It's still out in the open. We're still really trying to find Cheryl. Cheryl is not a suspect. We just want to talk to her or somebody who can help fill in those blanks. Because every little piece, like with this case, every. The tiniest details are so important. And we think that people have that information. They just don't really know that we're looking for it. So we think that Cheryl might be able to fill in the blanks on just the smallest information, bits of his routine and. Which will then like, lead us maybe to something else, which will then lead us to something else, which could eventually lead to answers.

[Maggie Freeling]

I have been wondering, you know, was Reeves really social? Did he have a lot of friends? Have you guys found people in your investigation that knew him?

[Payne Lindsay]

You know, we actually haven't. And that's the strangest thing to me. We have called probably 80 people who have worked at Donnelly Manufacturing. Nobody really knew him. Um, it's just so strange to me. And nobody has come forward, like, with all the publicity that this case has had regionally, nobody has come forward and been like, yeah, I used to hang out with Reeves. We used to, you know, go to this bar on Thursdays and do this activity. Not one person has come forward to say that they actually knew Reeves back in the day and that I just find so bizarre. And I will point out that he, you know, he was from Philly, so he didn't have contacts up in. In Kittery, so he didn't really know a lot of people. He knew his co workers, and then if he went out socially, he might Know those people, too. But we. We have not talked to anybody who actually knows him.

[Maggie Freeling]

So based on everything you know, everything you have found and things that you hope to find, what theory makes the most sense to you? What do you think happened to Reeves Johnson?

[Payne Lindsay]

We think that something happened to him. We don't think that he voluntarily went missing. We don't know what that something is. It doesn't really seem like he would have been a target for foul play, just based on the fact that he didn't have a ton of money. But we do think that somebody maybe took advantage of him, like, maybe there was a medical event, maybe there was an accident, maybe something got out of control, like there was an argument. So we don't know the. The exact circumstance, obviously, but we do think that maybe this situation was just somebody taking advantage.

[Maggie Freeling]

Do you think it was, like, a moment of opportunity, or do you think this person knew him?

[Payne Lindsay]

I think that they had to know him, at least to a certain extent, to know where he lived.

[Maggie Freeling]

I kind of agree. I feel like it's someone maybe a colleague at work. Like, I feel like this person knew enough about him to know to avoid places he went or his local proximity. Right.

[Payne Lindsay]

They at least had to know that his bank was Ocean national bank in Kittery. They at least had to know that his post office box was 451 in Kittery. You know, and maybe they just avoided some other places that they thought that people would know him, like the. The grocery store in Kittery that he was supposedly a regular at. It seems like it was a crime of opportunity, as strange as that is. Just because, I mean, would you then just, like, after you, like, kill someone or hide a body, you know, from somebody accidentally dying, would you then just go, like, spend all of their money and clear out their house? So, like, there's. There's little things that don't perfectly add up, which is what I think is frustrating about this case. But we definitely think that something happened to him and somebody took the opportunity to get what they could from it. We don't know where they would have taken Reeves. You know, what's tough is that this is a seacoast community. We do have an ocean right by. We do have lots of woods. So there is a lot of places to hide a body and hide a body that will never be found. So we hope that somebody has little bits of information that we can then piece together, which will eventually lead us to a location that could be promising, because really, we just want to bring him home.

[Maggie Freeling]

Kristin, for listeners, where can they find you if they want to follow up on your work.

[Payne Lindsay]

So you can find Murder She Told. Wherever you listen to podcasts, I did a revamped version of this full length episode in March of 2024. So that's probably the episode that I would send people to. There's also a main page on bertosheetoll.com that goes to Reeves that kind of gives just like the quick overview of where to find things that we're looking for, things that we need. There is a $6,000 reward for information that leads to the recovery of Reeves. Every press release that's ever gone out has come from me. There's a lot of coverage on it, but it's all been from me, like pushing this out into the media because I know that getting eyes on it, getting ears on it is the only way that this is going to get solved. Yeah.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listeners check out Murder She Told website. Look at the photos. We're looking for a Cheryl. We are looking for this man in the red hat. Kristen, thanks so much for joining me again. It is always wonderful when you come on.

[Payne Lindsay]

Thank you so much for having me. This case means a lot to me and I really appreciate you giving it a platform.

[Maggie Freeling]

I think it's incredibly unlikely that 31 year old Reeves Johnson willingly went off the grid. He was doing well and he was super close with his family. His brother Hugh told Kristen for her podcast Murder She Told.

[Kristin Seavey]

Right away I knew something was very wrong.

[Rob]

Knowing Reeves was not somebody who was going to do something like this, not going to disappear, didn't have the resources.

[Kristin Seavey]

He is not somebody to get involved with dangerous people. It just left me completely at a.

[Rob]

Loss as to what could have happened.

[Maggie Freeling]

It just cannot be a coincidence that a strange man is picking up Reeves last check from Reeves job at the same time Reeves is missing. It is infuriating that a photo exists of this person that now so many years later is virtually useless. But at the time, if it was widely distributed, maybe someone would have had recognized the hat or maybe they knew a friend that was going to the post office that day. Anything other than where we are now. Reeve's sister Sally told Kristen when they were coming up here to Kittery. I said, can I come up and help? And they said, no, no, we've got that. And I keep wondering what if that guy at the post office, if I had been there and I could have chased him, what if? I find Kristen's determination to get answers for Reeves family so admirable And I really hope that she and law enforcement are able to get some answers so many years later, Reeves Johnson would now be in his 70s. If you have any information about the disappearance of Reeves Johnson, contact Detective Bryant Kummer with the Kittery police@b c u m m e raterypolice.com or call 207-439-1638. Y', all, thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of up and Vanish Weekly. Be sure to tune in next week as we dig into another new case. Until next time.

[Kristin Seavey]

Up and Vanish Weekly is a production of Tenderfoot TV in association with Odyssey. Your hosts are Maggie Freeling and myself, Payne Lindsay. The show is written by Maggie Freeling, myself and John Street. Executive producers are Donald Albright and myself. Lead producer is John Street. Additional production by Meredith Steadman and Mike Rooney. Research for the series by Jamie Albright, Celicia Stanton and Carolyn Tallmade. Edit and mix by Dylan Harrington and Sean Nurney. Supervising producer is Tracy Kaplan. Artwork by Byron McCoy. Original music by Makeup and vanity set. Special thanks to Oren Rosenbaum and the team at uta, Beck Media and Marketing and the NORD Group. For more podcasts like up and Vanish Weekly, search Tenderfoot TV on your favorite podcast app or visit Visit us@Tenderfoot TV. Thanks for listening. This summer, Staying healthy actually tastes amazing.

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