Podcast
Veterinary Behaviour Chat
Hosted by Dr Katrin Jahn, DrMedVet, CertVA, MANZCVS(VB), DACVB, DipECAWBM(BM), MRCVS · EN
Every week, Double Board-Certified Veterinary Behaviourist and Veterinarian of over 25 years, Dr. Katrin Jahn provides education, knowledge and inspiration on all things Veterinary Behaviour Medicine aka Veterinary Psychiatry.
This show is for fellow Vets, Veterinary Nurses and Pet Care Professionals who want to serve their patients and clients better by integrating Veterinary Behaviour Medicine into their everyday practice.
The podcast features up-to-date, informative advice on diagnosing and treating behaviour problems in dogs, cats, rabbits, birds, and other companion animals in a variety of episodes, including interviews with some of the leading minds in Veterinary Behaviour Medicine.
In our Case Study and Case De-Brief episodes, Dr. Katrin demonstrates how she approaches and treats Clinical Behaviour Cases on a practical level, and we hear from pet owners who have achieved fantastic results in treating their pets' behaviour problems.
In our 15-minute Speed Coaching episodes, Dr Katrin consults with and coaches fellow professionals on Case Management, setting up Veterinary Behaviour Medicine protocols, using Psychopharmaceutical Medications, Career Progression and so much more!
If you are a Veterinarian, Veterinary Nurse/Technician or Pet Care Professional and you want to elevate your skillset to the next level, this is the podcast for you!
This podcast will provide answers to the following questions and so much more!
• How do I safely and effectively use psychopharmacology for my veterinary patients?
• What are the best veterinary Pre-Visit Pharmaceuticals?
• How does my patient's physical health affect their behavioural health?
• What physical diseases should I be screening for in patients that present with behaviour problems?
• Why is pain such an important consideration for Behaviour Patients?
• How do I treat dogs with Separation Anxiety?
• How do I treat dogs with Noise Phobias?
• How do I treat cats that are House Soiling?
• How do I perform a risk assessment on a Veterinary Behaviour patient?
• What are some Behavioural First Aid Strategies I can give to my clients?
• How do I manage aggressive dogs in the Veterinary Clinic?
• How do I manage aggressive cats in the Veterinary Clinic?
• Why am I seeing so many anxious or fearful patients in my practice?
• How do I treat dogs and cats with Cognitive Dysfunction Syndrome?
• How do I treat dogs and cats with Abnormal Repetitive Behaviours?
• What diets, supplements and nutraceuticals actually work at reducing stress in veterinary patients?
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143 Help! The Medications have stopped working!
4d ago00:26:30Tap to summarizeEpisode 143 – Help! The Medications have stopped working! This episode was inspired by a recent consultation where the caregiver had noted a deterioration in their pet's behaviour and wondered whether this was due to the "medications no longer working". Have a listen as I chat through my top 5 things to consider when there is deterioration in behaviour and whether the medications are always to blame. In this episode you'll learn about: · The timeline of side effects of the most commonly used baseline psychopharmaceuticals. · The importance of management and assessing physical health contributors. · The importance of life stages. · Other really important questions to ask when previously stable behaviour deteriorates. I also chat a little bit about the Cytochrome P450 system and how medication interactions or concurrent use of other medications or supplements can affect psychopharmacology. If you would like to learn more about my approach to Behaviour Cases, then join my amazing Membership – The Behaviour Case Collective - for monthly deep-dives into cases and case management approaches: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/behaviour-case-collective And, if you'd like to learn more about the safely and effectively using Veterinary Psychopharmacology, then join my flagship PSYCHOACTIVE course here: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/psychoactive I hope you enjoy this episode! If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →142 Using Trazodone with SSRIs and TCAs
2w ago00:16:55Tap to summarizeEpisode 142 – Using Trazodone with SSRIs and TCAs Can trazodone be safely used in combination with and SSRI or TCA without causing signs of Serotonin Syndrome? This is one of the most frequently asked questions I hear, especially from GP vets. Have a listen as I chat through my thoughts on this topic and refer back to one of the original studies on trazodone from 2008 where it was used as an augmenting agent for patients already on an SSRI or TCA to further improve signs of fear or anxiety. I also talk about medication doses, and I mention 2 further papers where dogs and cats ingested their caregivers' anti-depressant medication and only 25% developed clinical signs consistent with SS. Here are the papers I mention in the episode: Gruen, M.E. and Sherman, B.L., 2008. Use of trazodone as an adjunctive agent in the treatment of canine anxiety disorders: 56 cases (1995–2007). Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, 233(12), pp.1902-1907. Pugh, C.M., Sweeney, J.T., Bloch, C.P., Lee, J.A., Johnson, J.A. and Hovda, L.R., 2013. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) toxicosis in cats: 33 cases (2004–2010). Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care, 23(5), pp.565-570. Thomas, D.E., Lee, J.A. and Hovda, L.R., 2012. Retrospective evaluation of toxicosis from selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor antidepressants: 313 dogs (2005–2010). Journal of Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care, 22(6), pp.674-681. If you would like to learn more about Veterinary Psychopharmacology, then my PSYCHOACTIVE course is for you: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/psychoactive If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →141 Why "Gaba/Traz" is not always the best option
3w ago00:18:46Tap to summarizeEpisode 141 – Why "Gaba/Traz" is not always the best option This episode was inspired by a lecture I gave at BVA Live 2026 and the ensuing questions and discussion about the use of Pre-Visit Pharmaceuticals. The truth is that while gabapentin and trazodone can be a good PVP combination for some canine patients, it should not be used as a "one size fits all" approach for all dogs requiring anxiolytic support at the veterinary clinic and we should, instead, consider each patient as an individual and tailor their medication regime accordingly. In this episode I chat about: · Cats versus dogs when it comes to PVPs. · Why anxiolytic doses of gabapentin can cause vulnerability in canine patients with musculoskeletal disease. · Why trial doses at home are imperative. · Other options for PVP combinations. If you are a vet who often reaches for "Gaba/Traz", then this episode is a good nudge to think about patient choices and other PVP options. If you'd like to read more about these and related topics, our Professional Guides E-Book is a must-read for you : https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/trinity-ebook And, if you'd like to learn more about Veterinary Psychopharmacology, you'll love my PSYCHOACTIVE course: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/psychoactive I really hope you find this episode useful! If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →140 15 Minute Speed Coaching with Sharon Jones – Dogs and Car Journeys
4w ago00:23:09Tap to summarizeEpisode 140 – 15 Minute Speed Coaching with Sharon Jones – Dogs and Car Journeys Welcome to another 15-minute Speed Coaching Session for Veterinary and Pet Care Professionals! The rules of the game are as follows: · Episodes will be in-the-moment, off-the-cuff and unscripted. · Coaching sessions will be 15 Minutes MAXIMUM, so wherever we finish, we finish… · Which means that we might not find complete resolution to your question, but we will certainly get the thought process started! In this episode, I chat to Canine Dog Trainer and Behaviourist, Sharon Jones, about the challenges of working through cases where dogs show fear- or stress behaviours on car journeys. How do we know if this is a physical health concern (nausea or pain), fear or anxiety, fear learning, anticipatory excitement, frustration or something else? And, how do we start unpicking behaviours to find the emotional motivation and behavioural drivers? Have a listen as we chat through different thoughts and approaches, which medications may be useful and the discussions we have about this topic on the ACVB List serve. One of my passion projects – and indeed the topic of my residency research – is stress management during air travel in pets and while air- and car travel are different in some respects, they also share a LOT of commonalities. Here's a link to my review paper on Feline Stress Management during Air Travel, which I mention in the episode, and, of course, so much of this information can be extrapolated to dogs too ! https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1098612X221145521 I absolutely loved chatting to Sharon, and I really hope you find this episode useful ! If you'd like to book a 30-minute Vet-Vet or Vet-Pet Care Professional Consultation with me, you can do that right here: https://calendly.com/trinityvet/teams-and-professionals If you can't find an appointment time to suit you, please email us at info@trinityvetbehaviour.com to find a time that suits us both! If you'd like to know more about my case-based Veterinary Behaviour Membership – The Behaviour Case Collective – then you can do this right here: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/behaviour-case-collective And… if YOU would like to be part of a 15-Minute Podcast Speed Coaching episode, then apply right here: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/assessments/2148527544 If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →139 Can I offer Veterinary Behaviour Consultations without being a Trainer?
Jun 1500:19:52Tap to summarizeEpisode 139 – Can I offer Veterinary Behaviour Consultations without being a Trainer? This episode was inspired by a Zoom Call question from one of my lovely participants of Learn To Speak Dog and Learn To Speak Cat, who is in the process of setting up a Veterinary Behaviour Service in a new hospital she has started working in. Her concern is that she can't yet offer consultations as she has not yet found aligned trainers to work with who can support her in her cases. What do you think my thoughts and advice were to her? Have a listen to this episode to find out and to hear more about my own personal journey and how I currently manage the "Behaviour Modification" or "Training" element of the Veterinary Behaviour Treatment Plan. If you'd like the chance to ask me your questions in person, you can do that in our Live Group Zoom Calls in the following courses: Learn To Speak Dog - https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/learn-to-speak-dog Learn To Speak Cat - https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/learn-to-speak-cat Psychoactive - https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/psychoactive And, of course, in my Membership Program – "The Behaviour Case Collective" https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/behaviour-case-collective If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →138 To Avoid or not to Avoid – That is the Question!
Jun 800:26:25Tap to summarize138 To Avoid or not to Avoid – That is the Question! The avoidance of triggers and stimuli is such an important part of the treatment plan and falls into the Management "M" of the "7 Ms" Veterinary Behaviour Treatment Plan Template! However, it is also the part that gets possibly the most pushback from caregivers for a number of different reasons. In this episode, I chat through those reasons as well as why I believe avoidance is so important for brain processes and eventually achieving a successful outcome. I also talk about the risks to the pet when we don't avoid and continue to expose them to threatening or frustrating triggers. Finally, I talk about some of the strategies I use to get caregivers on board and how we eventually do start the process of re-introduction to those triggers, stimuli and contexts. If you are a behaviourist or trainer working in practice, you may be very familiar with this topic and listening to my approach and reasoning may give you a different way of tackling some of these conversations. If you'd like to learn more about the "7 Ms" approach to Veterianry Beahviour Treatment Plans, then my Masterclass on exactly this topic is for you: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/treatment-plans If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →137 Interoception – The 8th Sense
Jun 100:28:16Tap to summarizeEpisode 137 – Interoception – The 8th Sense This episode was inspired by the 3rd Case Call of "The Behaviour Case Collective" Membership where Dr Amber Batson and I co-presented a case where gastro-intestinal health had a big impact on Behaviour. During this conversation, the idea of Interoception was spoken about, and I thought it would be a GREAT topic to dive into! Interoception is one of the 3 "Hidden Senses" and is essentially a sensory system that provides a dialogue between the brain and the inside of the body. In this episode you will learn: 1. What Interoception is and how it fits in with the other 7 senses. 2. How altered Interoception can affect our patients. 3. How to apply treatment and therapy strategies to improve Interoception. I really hope you find this episode valuable and that it gives you food for thought when assessing your own Behaviour Patients! If you would like to learn more about our amazing, monthly, case-based membership, "The Behaviour Case Collective", then click the link below: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/behaviour-case-collective If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →136 Cooperative Care with Charlotte Lewis
May 2500:39:47Tap to summarizeEpisode 136 – Cooperative Care with Charlotte Lewis I am always talking about bridging the gap between Veterinary Professionals and great non-Veterinary Professionals and encouraging more collaborative ways of working to best serve our patients and their families. So, when I heard that Charlotte runs a Cooperative Care Service at her local Veterinary Practice, provides CPD to the Vets at the practice as well as educational classes to the practice's clients, I just knew I had to chat to her to find out more! In this episode, Charlotte and I chat about the benefits of Cooperative Care and Gentle Handling for the patients, the caregivers and the veterinary teams, and the kinds of cases that could benefit most from these approaches. Charlotte also provides some really simple, easy and effective tools for helping patients feel safer in the veterinary practice – tools that anyone working in most practices can easily learn and implement! We round up the podcast with an emotional conversation about the things Charlotte has learned from the veterinary team at the practice – resilience, a desire to show up no matter how big the emotional strain and a true love and commitment to the profession and the patients they serve – which left us both a little teary! This is one you'll definitely not want to miss ! If you'd like to learn more about reducing Fear and Stress at the Veterinary Clinic, then my brand new Masterclass – "The 4 Pillars of reducing Fear and Stress at the Veterinary Clinic" is just the thing for you: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/four-pillars You can find Charlotte at www.cannycaninesuk.com and on social media @cannycaninesuk If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →135 15-minute Speed Coaching – Advocating for Behaviour in Practice with Nikki McLeod
May 1800:21:32Tap to summarizeEpisode 135 – 15-minute Speed Coaching – Advocating for Behaviour in Practice with Nikki McLeod Welcome to another 15-minute Speed Coaching Session for Veterinary and Pet Care Professionals! The rules of the game are as follows: · Episodes will be in-the-moment, off-the-cuff and unscripted. · Coaching sessions will be 15 Minutes MAXIMUM, so wherever we finish, we finish… · Which means that we might not find complete resolution to your question, but we will certainly get the thought process started! In this episode, I chat to Registered Veterinary Nurse and Behaviour Advocate, Nikki McLeod, about ways in which we can make Behaviour Medicine more relevant and accessible to vets and other team members in general practice. Many of us who are behaviourally aware know all too well how frustrating it can be when other team members don't share that same awareness or approach. Listen as I share some of the strategies I have found effective in "onboarding" other team members to start thinking with awareness for mental and emotional wellbeing, the challenges that we still face and how the industry has changed for the better in the last 25+ years! If you are a vet, nurse, receptionist or other vet team member and you'd like to know more about becoming more behaviourally aware, then this episode is for you! If you'd like to learn more about reducing Fear and Stress at the Veterinary Clinic, then my brand new Masterclass – "The 4 Pillars of reducing Fear and Stress at the Veterinary Clinic" is just the thing for you: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/four-pillars And… if YOU would like to be part of a 15-Minute Podcast Speed Coaching episode, then apply right here: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/assessments/2148527544 If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
Transcribe →134 Escitalopram
May 1100:14:12Tap to summarizeEpisode 134 – Escitalopram Escitalopram is a really useful SSRI that is quite commonly prescribed by Veterinary Behaviour Specialists or veterinarians with a strong interest in Behaviour Medicine but is possibly sometimes overlooked by general practitioners. So, I thought we'd do a bit of a deep dive into escitalopram and the things you, as professionals, need to know about this medication. Here's what you'll learn: · Indications for and uses of escitalopram in Veterinary Medicine · Why escitalopram might be a good choice for fearful and anxious patients · When Escitalopram might be a better choice than fluoxetine (if legally possible – the dreaded cascade !!). · Potential drug interactions and contraindications. This is a bit of a whistlestop tour into escitalopram, but if you'd like to dive even deeper, I've got you covered – My PSYCHOACTIVE course contains everything you need to know: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/psychoactive And, if you'd like to learn how escitalopram and other Veterinary Psychopharmaceuticals can be applied practically, then The Behaviour Case Collective, where we take a deep-dive into one real-life Behaviour Case every month, might be just the thing for you! https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/behaviour-case-collective If you'd like to book a 30-minute Vet-Vet or Vet-Pet Care Professional Consultation with me, you can do that right here: https://calendly.com/trinityvet/teams-and-professionals If you can't find an appointment time to suit you, please email us at info@trinityvetbehaviour.com to find a time that suits us both! And if you'd like some amazing E-Books including Client Handouts and Professional Guides, then have a look here: https://katrin-jahn.mykajabi.com/trinity-ebook If you liked this episode of the show, Veterinary Behaviour Chat, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, share, and subscribe! Facebook Group: Join The Veterinary Behaviour Community on Facebook You can CONNECT with me: Website: Visit my website Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Instagram: Follow Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on Instagram Trinity Veterinary Behaviour Facebook: Join us on Trinity Veterinary Behaviour's Facebook page Trinity Veterinary Behaviour YouTube: Subscribe to Trinity Veterinary Behaviour on YouTube LinkedIn Profile: Connect with me on LinkedIn Thank you for tuning in!
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