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Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words
Episode: ‘Demonstrably Untrue’: Victor Davis Hanson Rebuts Tucker Carlson’s Israel, Qatar Claims
Date: December 23, 2025
Host: Victor Davis Hanson (with Jack Fowler) | The Daily Signal
Episode Overview
This episode dives deep into Victor Davis Hanson’s response to recent controversial comments by Tucker Carlson regarding Israel’s strategic significance compared to Gulf states like Qatar. Hanson systematically rebuts these claims with historical, economic, and moral arguments, and discusses associated rises in antisemitism, the dynamics of Middle Eastern politics, gun control failures, the problems of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion), the proliferation of AI-generated impersonations, the legacy of Norman Podhoretz, and broader Western sociopolitical currents. The episode maintains Hanson's characteristic mix of historical context, personal anecdote, pointed critique, and conservative skepticism.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Rebutting Tucker Carlson’s Israel Critique
[03:39–15:33]
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Carlson’s Claims:
- Israel is “a completely insignificant country” with “no resources.”
- U.S. receives nothing of value from its support of Israel.
- Gulf states, notably Qatar, offer “much more” to the U.S.
- Only significance of Israel is from the U.S. security guarantee.
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Hanson’s Response:
- Historical and Cultural Significance:
- Israel is the home and protector of the Judeo-Christian tradition and Jerusalem.
“Does Tucker really believe that Jerusalem in the hands of the Jordanians was better than under the Israelis?” [05:30]
- Israel is the home and protector of the Judeo-Christian tradition and Jerusalem.
- Contrasting Political Systems:
- Qatar is an autocracy with limited citizenship; Israel is a constitutional democracy where Arabs have rights and hold office.
- “Not one constitutional government there... only about 20% are citizens. The rest are Helots... They don't have the civil rights that Arabs do inside Israel.” [06:01]
- Economic and Scientific Contributions:
- Israel is self-sufficient in fossil fuels, a net exporter of natural gas, and a pioneer in technological innovations (e.g., drip irrigation—anecdote about Hanson's own vineyard modernization) [07:00].
- Highest per capita Nobel laureates; Israeli innovations significantly benefit the U.S.
- “When we send over F-35s, it’s the only country in the world that makes adaptations to improve it and usually shares those completely with us.” [09:10]
- Security and Defense Cooperation:
- Israel provides key intelligence, military innovation, and acts as a deterrent to common threats (Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis).
- “Who has deterred them? The Israelis have.” [10:50]
- Moral and Strategic Reality:
- The Gulf states are frequently sources of radicalization; Qatar funds some anti-Western activities and propaganda (citing Al Jazeera).
- “Al Jazeera prints nothing but hate toward the United States every single day. The Israeli left and right do not do that.” [11:30]
- Investment Perspective:
- Support for Israel is proportionally a much better investment than NATO.
- “It’s been as good as investment as the 16% of the NATO investment.” [14:30]
- Timing and Context:
- Critique of rising appeasement and reluctance to name radical Islamic violence in recent global attacks—contrasting Israeli and Muslim nations’ behaviors after recent events (e.g., Bondi Beach attack in Australia).
- Criticism of consistent focus on perceived Jewish issues when far worse atrocities elsewhere (e.g., in Nigeria, Armenia) are ignored.
- Historical and Cultural Significance:
2. Analysis: Middle East, U.S. Policy, and Conservative Movement Change
[17:58–21:36]
- Satirical Commentary:
- Mocking the idea that Israel was behind U.S. involvements in Kuwait or Iraq.
- Critique of the notion U.S. is manipulated by Israel, highlighting the factual origins of terrorism, funding, and anti-American threats in other Middle Eastern countries.
- Conservative Leadership Vacuum:
- A lament that conservative voices (Breitbart, Limbaugh, Charlie Kirk) are fading, with Carlson’s shift seen as part of this trend.
- “Tucker is no longer with us. It's a new Tucker. And I don't know what happened…” [20:48]
3. Bondi Beach Attack & Gun Control Policy Failures
[21:36–27:05]
- Australian political response:
- Criticizes Australian leaders’ focus on gun control instead of addressing radicalization and known threats.
- Gun Control Skepticism:
- Argues that strict gun laws don't stop extremists from acquiring firearms; state ideological bias controls access—law-abiding Jews less likely to get weapons than those perceived as less of a threat.
4. DEI and Affirmative Action
[27:23–31:43]
- Problems with DEI-driven policies in hiring and culture:
- Loss of meritocracy in U.S. institutions and awards undermines excellence.
- Rejection of Racial Preferences:
- Personal account: “I've been about 12 [hiring committees]. I am not going to predetermine the... I want to hire the best person.” [28:47]
- Overuse of accusations of racism has “devalued the currency.”
- “It's like a bucket of paper bills, German marks trying to buy something. Racist, racist, racist, racist, racist...” [31:43]
5. AI Abuse and Fake Victor Davis Hanson Content
[33:20–36:32]
- Proliferation of AI-imposter videos:
- Widespread reposting of deepfake videos imitating Hanson.
- Negative impacts on reputation and audience confusion.
- Strategies: look for watermarks, note differences in voice/accent, legal action ongoing.
6. Remembering Norman Podhoretz
[37:17–46:03]
- Eulogy for Podhoretz:
- Admiration for his courage, transparency, contrarianism, and ascent from poverty.
- Role in shaping neoconservatism and U.S. Jewish intellectual life.
- Comments on the Jewish immigrant experience and value for American society.
- Broader context of rising antisemitic incidents in New York and the U.S.:
- Specific recent attacks and the emboldenment of antisemitic actors.
- “If you continue with the antisemitism... and your criticism of this group does not apply to other groups... It's baffling.” [44:00]
7. Social Consequences & Police Failures in the West
[51:08–56:40]
- Western police and political unwillingness to confront radical Islamic threat head-on:
- Use of petty enforcement as distraction from larger failures (the “Bloomberg Effect”).
- Growing public anger and perception of government ineffectiveness.
8. U.S. Social Strain under Immigration and Welfare Pressures
[56:40–57:36]
- Healthcare and welfare systems overwhelmed by unregulated influx:
- Citizens waiting longer for medical care while newcomers use entitlements more quickly.
- Anecdotes showing frustration among all demographic groups, not just “old white males.”
9. Electric Vehicle Market Realities
[58:40–62:16]
- Personal anecdote about EV ownership:
- Praising practicality in daily use; long distances remain a challenge without infrastructure.
- Market vs. Mandate:
- Ford’s $20B EV loss underscores that market—rather than ideological mandate—must drive adoption.
- “If you destroy the market based on meritocracy and you do the same thing... DEI... It's a double whammy.” [61:01]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On Tucker Carlson’s Critique of Israel:
- “Everything he just said is demonstrably untrue... It's not an insignificant country... Israel is the home of the Judeo-Christian tradition... It has probably the highest per capita Nobel Prize winners... When we send over F-35s, it’s the only country in the world that makes adaptations to improve it and usually shares those completely with us.” — Victor Davis Hanson [05:15–09:00]
- On Terror and U.S. Policy:
- “Does Tucker really believe that Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis are not enemies of the United States? We don’t have any soldiers fighting Hezbollah. They blew up our marines, they blew up our embassy...” — VDH [10:36]
- On Antisemitism and Western Response:
- “If you keep doing that... and your criticism of this group of people does not apply to [others], why just pick on the Jews... when there’s all these other examples that would fit your criteria?” — VDH [44:00]
- On DEI and Loss of Meritocracy:
- “Anytime for any reason you destroy meritocracy... it doesn't work. That’s why we distinguished ourselves in the West...” — VDH [27:23]
- On AI Imposters:
- “I get people who write me every day and say, 'I can't believe you said this, or you talk much faster now'... we've put a watermark on my daily videos... If it doesn’t have that, it’s not me.” — VDH [36:04]
- On Conservative Movement:
- “Conservative movement is really hemorrhaging spokespeople.” — VDH [21:26]
- On Problems with Gun Laws and Terror Response:
- “No, you don't need more gun control. You needed a lot more cameras and you needed a rapid response team... and to be a lot better informed.” — VDH [27:00]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- Rebuttal to Tucker Carlson on Israel – [03:39–15:33]
- U.S., Middle East & Terrorism Dynamics – [17:58–21:36]
- Bondi Beach Attack & Gun Control Policy – [21:36–27:05]
- DEI, Affirmative Action Rant – [27:23–31:43]
- AI Fake Videos Scandal – [33:20–36:32]
- Norman Podhoretz Remembrance – [37:17–46:03]
- Antisemitism & New York Incidents – [42:24–46:03]
- Western Police Failures & Social Strain – [51:08–57:36]
- Electric Vehicles & Market Realities – [58:40–62:16]
Tone and Style
Victor Davis Hanson speaks with a blend of academic precision and passionate, sometimes sardonic, critique. The episode is dense with history, first-hand anecdotes, and moral argument delivered in a conversational yet intellectual tone.
For First-Time Listeners
This episode gives a clear sense of Hanson's analytic style: grounded in historical context and focused on connecting contemporary events to larger civilizational trends. Those interested in U.S. foreign policy, the problems of antisemitism, conservative movement fractures, and debates over social engineering versus meritocracy will find this a valuable and thought-provoking listen.
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