DOJ Bombshell: Did the SPLC Fund the Chaos It Warned About? | Victor Davis Hanson

Summary

Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words Episode: DOJ Bombshell: Did the SPLC Fund the Chaos It Warned About?
Date: April 25, 2026 | Host: Victor Davis Hanson
Podcast: Victor Davis Hanson | The Daily Signal

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Episode Overview

In this Saturday edition, Victor Davis Hanson examines the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and explosive allegations that it funded the very extremism it publicly opposes. Hanson provides his trademark historically informed analysis, covering the SPLC’s origins, alleged corruption, and wider political ramifications. Other key topics include the latest on Iran’s geopolitical tactics, redistricting controversies in Virginia and California politics, mounting scandals in government, and a discussion of antisemitism’s rise within the Democratic Party. The episode also features Hanson’s in-depth segment on the Greek god Apollo, placing current events within a classicist’s long view.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Iran’s Strategy and the American Response

[02:15 – 07:23]

• Iran’s Economic Bleeding:
  Hanson argues that Iran is strategically using negotiation and provocation to prolong its regime while hemorrhaging $400+ million a day in lost economic activity.

  "It's only a matter of time until they implode... they're trying to negotiate, negotiate, negotiate and then stop negotiating...send a few boats out to lay a mine or attack a thing and say, no, no, we're still peace." — Victor Davis Hanson [02:15]

• U.S. & Israeli Considerations:
  Trump, he suggests, resists decisive military action for three key reasons:

  1. Risk of propping up resistance movements just before potential regime change
  2. Doubts about the destruction of Iran’s entire missile arsenal
  3. Fear of destabilizing the region further (e.g., attacks on Saudi oil refineries)

• Assessment Challenges:
  Uncertainties surround Iran’s oil reserves, clandestine support via China and Russia, and the true extent of their capabilities.

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2. DOJ & SPLC Bombshell: Funding Extremism

[07:23 – 15:47]

• Allegations against SPLC:
  The SPLC, long known for tracking extremism, is under grand jury indictment for "telling donors that give us this money for this particular purpose, and then...secretly paying Klansmen, neo Nazis to stir things up so then that they could say, white supremacy is on the rise." [08:15]

• Origins & Corruption:
  Originally a respected grassroots group, the SPLC has become, Hanson claims, "utterly corrupt... Every word in that title is misleading." [08:15]

  • Not limited to the South; operates nationally
  • Not focused on poverty (CA has higher poverty than many southern states)
  • More a political arm for Democrats, with assets nearing a billion dollars

• Historical Analogy:
  Hanson compares SPLC tactics to Roman fire brigades who might start fires and then promise to save victims—fundraising from both the chaos and the solution.

• Quote – The Business of Racism:

  "They seeded these demonstrations with their own people to gin up the violence so then they could say, give us money to stop the violence. So the donors unknowingly were paying to help prompt the violence." — Victor Davis Hanson [09:12]

• Institutional Decline:
  Chronic scandals and accusations of internal racism and harassment within SPLC, with founder Morris Dees ousted.

• The “White Supremacy Card” Is Exhausted:
  Hanson argues there's no empirical foundation for systemic white racism as SPLC claims, and points to demographic crime statistics to support his contention.

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3. The Biden Presidency: A Critical View

[15:58 – 17:02]

• Presidential Incapacity:
  Hanson bluntly asserts Biden’s not running the country, instead calling him a “waxing effigy” and attributing real power to Obama-era figures via Jill Biden.

  "We saw him on TV the other night... It was frightening. He just talked and it was a language other than English. It was going. Nobody could understand what he was saying." [15:58]

• Radical Agenda:
  Describes the administration as “the most radical in the last hundred years... socialism, open borders, politicized DAs, pacifism, appeasement abroad. It was a complete disaster.” [16:23]

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4. Virginia and California Redistricting – The Political Battlefield

[18:54 – 25:53]

• Virginia’s Special Election:
  If the contested redistricting proceeds, “Virginia will have 10 Democrat and 1 Republican district, even though about 48% voted for Trump” — a process Hanson dubs more egregious than even California’s gerrymandering. [19:15]

• Democrats and Gerrymandering:
  Hanson critiques Democratic calls for independent commissions as “a way to stop the appearance of gerrymandering, not gerrymandering itself.” [19:35]

• California in Decline:
  Extended critique of one-party rule in California:

  • Homelessness, urban decay (SF, LA, Venice Beach)
  • Exodus of tax base (“11 million people who left...conservatives now settled in other states”)
  • Economic and social dysfunction (“We have the highest income taxes...drove out insurance companies, oil companies, Silicon Valley founders...no one is left to pay the bills.”) [24:32]

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5. Scandals in Government: Gender and Accountability

[26:04 – 32:56]

• Resignations and Double Standards:
  Focused on Labor Secretary Lori Chavez De Remer’s resignation over allegations of drinking during work, creating a hostile environment, and misuse of resources.

• Women in Office:
  Hanson observes a troubling trend among some women political figures courting media attention, and draws contrasts to other female leaders.

• Investigative Double Standards:
  Invokes similar allegations against men (e.g., Kash Patel suing the Atlantic for libel), suggesting media treatment varies sharply by political alignment.

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6. Historical Perspective – Apollo, God of Reason and Prophecy

[34:19 – 45:21]

• Apollo’s Uniqueness:
  “He starts out as a uniquely Greek god... hard to find his origins elsewhere,” says Hanson, tying attributes of rationality, healing, prophecy, and music to the god. [34:19]

• Nietzsche & Later Thought:
  Contrasts the "Apollonian" (reason, order) with the "Dionysian" (chaos, ecstasy), and notes the later philosophical focus on this dichotomy.

  “Essentially, when you say Apollo, we associate it with Greek rationalism.” [42:23]

• Cultural Legacy:
  Apollo sanctuaries (Delphi, Didyma) as centers of prophecy, rationality, and culture.

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7. Mounting Politics of Scandal: House Ethics and Standards

[46:50 – 51:56]

• Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick Resigns:
  Noted House member resigns over alleged embezzlement of $5 million from FEMA.

  • Hanson: "House usually protects its own, but now...they're going to look at everybody." [47:18]

• Changing Standards:
  Post-Santos expulsion, line between mere “hostile work environment” and true criminality is blurred.

• Workplace Culture Shifts:
  Hanson recalls how past family/interpersonal interventions dealt with harassment, comparing to today’s HR-driven approaches and MeToo culture.

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8. The Democratic Party, Antisemitism, and the Israel Divide

[55:48 – 72:20]

• Matt Continetti’s Analysis:
  Coverage of a Wall Street Journal editorial suggesting antisemitism/anti-Israel sentiment is now a unifying force for Democratic factions.

  • Bernie Sanders seen as leading this anti-Israel faction; John Fetterman (pro-Israel) is an outlier.

• Quote – The Double Standard:

  “In the Democratic Party, a guy like Hassan Piker is celebrated...But in the Republican Party, when you had a Nick Fuentes who was about the same...he's ostracized.” [56:49]

• Selective Outrage:
  Hanson questions the singular focus on Israel's alleged faults, contrasting lack of protest over Turkish occupation of Cyprus, Armenian ethnic cleansing, and Muslim-on-minority violence globally.

• How It Unites the Left:
  Three “ideologies,” or forces, now converge:

  1. Economic Marxism
  2. DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion)
  3. Islamic/Middle East politics
  • Together, they foster scapegoating of Jews as a wealthy, white, “oppressor” class.

• The Mainstreaming of Antisemitic Rhetoric:

  “It used to be it was just Netanyahu and then it was Israel...now it is just Jews and they're saying that specifically.” [64:25]

• Universities as Incubators:
  The new tripartite ideology (socialism, DEI, and Middle East studies/Islamicism) pushes the Democratic Party further along this path, with administrators and faculty helping normalize anti-Jewish sentiment.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On SPLC's Transformation:
  “Every word in that title is misleading. Southern—no, it’s not just Southern. It’s all across the United States...They are a political extension of the Democratic Party and they're not poor. They have almost a billion dollars in assets.” — Victor Davis Hanson [08:15]

• On Iran’s Calculated Provocation:
  “Their strategy: hit just enough not to earn a full reprisal, threaten just enough that you have enough missiles to hit the Gulf States hard, but not too much to earn a reprisal.” [05:54]

• On current Democratic Party:
  “The Democratic party is a socialist party and it has adopted a Marxist paradigm to explain inequality...And that’s what unites all those different ideologies.” [64:25]

• On campus activism:
  “I saw it at Stanford when a lecturer...said, ‘Everybody that's Jewish, put all your stuff...over here, and you're going to learn what apartheid's like.’” [70:56]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Iran’s Tactics and Status Quo: [02:15 – 07:23]
• SPLC’s Alleged Funding of Extremism: [07:23 – 15:47]
• Biden Presidency Critique: [15:58 – 17:02]
• Virginia/California Redistricting: [18:54 – 25:53]
• California’s Decline: [24:32 – 25:53]
• Scandal Culture in Government: [26:04 – 32:56]
• Apollo: Reason vs. Chaos in Greek Myth: [34:19 – 45:21]
• House Ethics & Resignations: [46:50 – 51:56]
• Antisemitism and the Democratic Left: [55:48 – 72:20]

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Conclusion

This episode delivers Victor Davis Hanson’s provocative insights across American foreign policy, institutional corruption, and contemporary ideological struggles, all while grounding today’s crises in the sweep of classical history. His analysis suggests that the center of political gravity and moral clarity in America is shifting, with deep implications for the nation's future.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Welcome back Victor Davis Hanson in his own words. He is a subsidiary of the Daily Signal and you can find lots of articles and podcasts at the Daily Signal. In fact, Victor has short podcast that you can find there as well, so please join him there. He is the Martin and Neely Anderson Senior Fellow in Military History and Classics at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marcia Buskey Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.

[C]

Wait, wait. I'm a real person with feelings. You said I was a subsidiary. You're objectifying me as an inanimate object. I'm a person. Don't you remember? The Thornbirds were What's her name? Barbara Stanwyck.

[A]

Stanwyck.

[C]

She said, I'm trapped in this old body, but I'm young, I'm young.

[A]

I'm a person.

[C]

I'm still a person. I'm not a subsidiary, an inanimate.

[A]

Oh, you got a good point there. All right, Victor. So I know that you wanted to say a few more things on Iran this morning, and then we'll turn to the Southern Poverty Law center, but go ahead.

[C]

Well, I think everybody should keep in mind what the Iranian strategy is, because they're bleeding out $400 million and economic activity of all sorts, imports coming in that are necessary to fuel their industries, to oil going out, their revenue, and it's only a matter of time until they implode. But they're trying to, as they always do, they're trying to negotiate, negotiate, negotiate and then stop negotiating, then talk, talk, then stalk, and then to revive their fides, send a few boats out to lay a mine or Attack a thing and say, no, no, we're still peace. And to give them, you know, their due. They've already dragged it out for two months. And it's all predicated on one premise. They think Donald Trump has acclimate. They have climatized Donald Trump to a piece. So we haven't had any kinetic action in two, two or three weeks. So the American people are getting used to that. The stock market's gone up, oil's gone down, and so now they say it's a status quo. So now they're going to push it, push it, push it a little bit. And why doesn't Donald Trump unload on them? For three reasons. He doesn't want to go back and have a war that you'd have to finish them off because there is stirring rumors that the resistance is getting emboldened. They may, within three or four months, rise up, and you don't want them to be without power or water or bridges. The other thing is the Israelis came out with a report that they might have over a thousand missiles that we thought were, were destroyed, that actually they wheeled out shot, and then we hit their subterranean cover and they went to other places. So if that's true, Trump may think they've already inflicted billions of dollars of damage on the Gulf. If we sink too many of their ships and bomb them in retaliation for breaking the armistice ceasefire, then they may, you know, take out the Saudi oil, petroleum refining. I don't think they will, because if they do that, they're not going to have a country. So where we are right now is each day things get worse for Iran. And they know that. But they think, especially as they distill what Americans are saying on the left, whether it's Senator Murphy or Tom Friedman or the squad or Chuck Schumer, they're openly rooting for Iran. They really are. I'm going to be frank about that. So they feel that the Europeans don't like Trump and they're sitting it out. And they feel that if they can just keep talking, hit now, hit there and get away with it. Trump will bleed in the polls to the 30s. He'll lose the midterms, he will be impeached, they'll cut off aid. That's their strategy. So sum it up. Hit just enough not to earn a full reprisal, threaten just enough that you have enough missiles to hit the Gulf states hard, but not too much to earn a reprisal. And that's where we are. And at some point, somebody in the administration is going to have to get out their calculator. That's an archaic term, slide rule. And say these are the amount of days left that they can be viable. Two weeks, three weeks. And so if it's eight weeks, you better do something because I don't think he has that much time. He should precipitate the conclusion within two weeks or so. Part of the problem is we don't know how much oil they had stocked in tankers that are sitting around the world ready to go to the places that will buy it, number one. Number two, we don't know to what degree the Chinese are sending by rail weapons. And across across Asia they have a rail line directly into Iran. We don't know, as I said earlier, if the Russians are supplying across the Caspian Sea. But I don't think that much is getting in by sea or air. But I don't know about land. So it's. We need to get an accurate assessment. The economists for the center for the Defense of Democracies made that now widely quoted estimate of 420something million in lost revenue a day. And that's not sustainable. But we also don't know how many mines they have laid and where they were laid. It seems that they didn't lay them too close to the coast of Oman. So maybe there's a channel that we could de mine and direct traffic away from their coast through. And I think that's what we're doing.

[A]

Yeah, well, we'll see next week especially how things turn out. So the Southern Poverty Law center is under investigation for funding the exact people it says it's trying to fight extremists and in particular the Ku Klux Klan. But I think they also funded the. I think they also funded the people that sponsored the Charlotte Unite the Right. Yeah, Unite the Right Charlotte rally right before Biden was elected. I believe it.

[C]

That's the accusation.

[A]

Kept saying that. So the strange thing about the Southern Poverty Law center is then they've been funding the people that they say are their enemies. And so now they're under investigation for a fraudulent front.

[C]

It started out as a good grassroots organization years ago, but now it's utterly corrupt. Every word in that title is misleading. Southern. No, it's not just Southern. It's all across the United States. It doesn't deal. Blacks are treated probably better. Longevity for blacks are probably better in the new south than they are in Detroit or Washington D.C. or any of these other places. Southern end poverty poverty. 21% of the California residents are below the poverty line. And we have a higher poverty rate than Florida does. A southern state, Mississippi has a higher test scores and there's 8th and 9th, 10th grade test scores than does California. So it's not a poverty organization. And then law center, they're not just going out and suing people. They are just what has happened to the aclu. They are a political extension of the Democratic Party and they're not poor. They have almost a billion dollars in assets. And what they did, and this is not me speaking, and it's not the attorney general's in the department speaking, it's a grand jury that indicted them. And what they were doing is they were telling donors that give us this money for this particular purpose. And then they were secretly paying Klansmen, neo Nazis to stir things up so then that they could say, white supremacy is on the rise. And it worked brilliantly for them and unite the right when someone was killed. But the person that was in charge of the travel arrangements to getting there was likely being paid a couple hundred thousand dollars for them. And so they remind me of what they called in Rome, the wigilis, we get that word vigilant. The watchers, or people. They were fire brigades, Rome. And they would go around and spot fires. And they took their cue from hundreds of years earlier. Licinius Crassus, the richest man in Rome, had a fire brigade and he pulled up in front of houses that were on fire and he said, I will buy that house for a quarter of the worth or I won't put out the fire. But there was always accusation that he'd lit the fire. And the same thing with the Wegelheists. They would show up and say, oh, there's a fire going on. And then they would show up with a brigade of slaves and fire equipment. In other words, like the Southern Poverty Center. They ceded these demonstrations with their own people to gin up the violence so then they could say, give us money to stop the violence. So the donors unknowingly were paying to help prompt the violence so that they could then get more money and say, well, you gave us money to stop white supremacy. But in North Carolina, Charlottesville, there's killing people. And Donald Trump said there were good people on both sides and give us. And it worked like a charm. And so that's what they were doing, allegedly. And it's had a horrible reputation the last decade. Morris Dees, the person who founded it, had to resign because of systematic charges of racism, that they were not hiring people proportionately representative of their constituencies. And there was still an epidemic of sexual harassment during the MeToo, period. And so he's gone. And they've been racked by scandal. This is the biggest scandal. And of course the Democrats are going to be very, very upset. Chuck Schumer went to the floor of the US Senate saying that this was a witch hunt and a political politicalization of the Justice Department. We should talk to the grand jury because they surely found enough evidence that they were ceding violence. And the Democrats, I think, know that the white supremacy card is pretty much played out. We're a long way from 2022 when Mark Milley went before Congress and with Lloyd Austin and said that the Pentagon ranks were rife with white supremacists. That was when they were urging people to read Professor Kende how to be an anti Racist, all that stuff. And they said they're going to have a comprehensive report. And they issued it. And I think it was in December 23rd. They found nothing. And so until Obama came, we were almost at a racially blind society. It was Obama that ginned up the DEI binaries and said it's not just blacks that have been victimized, it's anybody that's not white. And it's not just 12% of the population, it's 30%. And they have legitimate claims against the white majority. I guess he meant his mother too, and his grandmother. So that started it all and that gave a breath of new air to this defunct organization. And they cannot exist unless they find white racism. The problem finally is if you want to find systemic white racism, you can find systemic black racism. You can find a systemic. Any racism given human nature. But if you look at certain statistics, which particular ethnic group is the subject of inordinate hate crimes? Jews. Jews. Which particular groups inordinately commit hate crimes larger than their demographic percentages? Blacks, Hispanics to a degree, and Muslim. So you can't find any systemic racism there. If you say, well, let me use another barometer. How about rare cases of white interracial violence? It's about 7 to 8% of all crime. Oh, can't do that. Blacks are six times more likely to commit violent assaults, including murder on whites than whites are on blacks. Okay, well, how about just general crime? Who commits. Who are the predator class that commits 48% of all murders? 12% of the population. Blacks. So all of the statistics that you want to prove the existence of organization, I Vanish. It's not 1960 anymore. 70. If you say, okay, well, Victor, let's try per capita income by ethnic and racial group. I wouldn't do that if I were you it's Zoran Mandami's Indian immigrants that have the highest per capita income and household income in the United States, followed by about six different Asian groups, Japanese, Chinese, etc. And so called whites are about 8th or 9th down. And so it doesn't serve a function. And we know it doesn't serve a function because they're paying now to create racism so they can address it because they can't find enough. There's too many victims and not enough victimizers. So the market has to adjust and the market is adjusting by them creating more victims and more victimizers.

[A]

And you would never know this if you just took the Biden years and all of the outcry that they had against white supremacy being the terrorism.

[C]

We are never going to find the full story that went on in the Biden. There is no Biden years. There was just a waxing effigy. We saw him on the other night. I was talking, I saw him on TV the other night and he was completely. I felt bad for him. He's got stage four prostate cancer, he's got dementia. The idea that he could be president second year right now, it was frightening. He just talked and it was a language other than English. It was going. Nobody could understand what he was saying. And so he wasn't running the country. It was the Obama era, activists with a conduit of Jill Biden and they were running the country and they got the. Their agenda was the most radical in the last hundred years. Not since the New Deal. Have you seen socialism, open borders, politicized, DAs pacifism, appeasement abroad. It was a complete disaster.

[A]

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[C]

Marginally.

[A]

Marginally it passed. And if it is successful in the courts, because I understand they're going to, you know, appeal, will redistrict Virginia to 10 districts that are Democrat and one that is Republican. And that's from five, I think it

[C]

had 47, 48% voted for Trump. So they're going to give 10%. It's kind of like California. We're going to have about 9% of Republican representation for 40%. But Virginia is even worse if it survives the court. And I think Florida Ron DeSantis will retaliate. And the funny thing about all of this is the Democrats have all. They were the ones that led this reform supposedly 15 years ago against gerrymandering, and they wanted independent commissions. They wanted independent commissions not so they could stop gerrymandering. They wanted independent commissions to stop the appearance of gerrymandering because they knew that public interest lawyers, retired politicians on pensions, retired politicians on prestigious government boards were for the most part big government people. So when they, they would say five Republicans, five Democrats, two independents, it turns out that the Republicans were always rhinos. So they had most of their wish. But it worked out well for them because they always said that we're not partisan. And now in California and Virginia, they overturned that. And it was the people who did it. And so when you looked at that California debate last night, yesterday, and you looked at the Democrats on there, and they were asked to judge Gavin Newsom, homelessness. You know, we have half the homeless people in the country. They ruined, they've actually ruined San Francisco. They ruined Venice Beach. They just can't go anywhere without defecation, urination, fornication, injection. And they were giving him a B. Most of them gave him A's. Kathleen Porter said, oh, I might have to give him a B. And so there was not one Democrat there who could say anything that distinguished themselves from what Gavin Newsom has done. So in any case. Excuse me. In any case, I don't know why I left my phone on. They cut that. But when you listen to the Democratic candidates, all they did was say, essentially, if you translate what they were saying, we're going to get. We have more than. We have 55% registration advantage. We vote and we get what we want. We have super majorities, so we can do anything we want. And then when they were asked about the actual data on the Newsom Democratic administration with super majorities in the California legislature, all the judges in California, for the most part, are left wing. They just said, everything's fine. So we have $8 gas on the coast. Oh, it's fine. We drove out two refineries. It's okay. We're the fifth largest reserves of gas and oil of the 50 states, but we're not using it. That's okay. We've destroyed LA and San Francisco. That's okay. We have. If you have a fire, you can't afford fire insurance, you can't afford house insurance, you can't afford car insurance. We have the most dangerous highways in the country, some of the worst school, highest tax. But nobody talks about that because. So then you say, who are the people? Who are they? They're not. Well, first of all, there are the 11 million people who left. Those are the conservatives now, for the most part, that are in Tennessee, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Texas, Arizona, Georgia, the Carolinas, Florida. They're gone. And then what? We place them huge amounts of money, 11, $12 million and market capitalization in Silicon Valley. They're going to drive them out, too. And then it's mostly poor people, poor people who can't afford housing, they can't afford insurance. We had half the nation's illegal immigrants and 27% of the people of California were not born in the United States, mostly from China and from Latin America. And so they're very poor. And they tend to be in social work, government positions. Seiu, which is the teachers union and the SIU are the most powerful unions in the country. So the problem California has is everybody's a very victim and wants, you know, 40% medical for everybody, including illegal aliens who want to change their sex. And 50% of all births are on Medi Cal. And we have a $250 billion scandal on hospice and Covid money that no one's talking about. But there's no. There's not enough victimizers. They're all gone. So all the people that were professionals and independent businessmen that paid the bills. When I'm talking about the 5% who pay about 60% of income tax and the 1% who pay about 48%, they're leaving. And so at some point California's gonna have to say, wow, we drove out all these small contractors, we drove out all these small accounting companies, we drove out all these insurance agencies, we drove out all these oil companies silicon. And there's nobody left to feed us and to do the work so we can call billionaire ripoff artists. So when I looked at that cast of Democratic characters, it was all billionaires did this and that. You don't get it. They're going, they're gone. You made your point. What you should be talking about how you're going to pay off this massive 20, 30 billion dollars deficit when you have already the highest income taxes at 13.3, if you raise it anymore, you're going to lose everybody. And I can tell you that the things that California used to be noted for, the best medical care at med centers, the best freeways, the best aqueducts, the best reservoir system, the best transportation, the best tripartite junior college, state college. It's all gone. They've destroyed them all.

[A]

Yeah, they sure have.

[C]

They really have. And I think it's tragic, given the beauty and the natural riches of the state and the good governance we had for 30 or 40 years under prior governors.

[A]

Yeah, it's hard to see it right up close to us, that's for sure. Victor. So there were people that. Leaving our government. I was wondering if your thoughts on. We have a labor secretary who resigned by the name of Lori Chavez D. Reamer. And she apparently is being accused of being drunk while at work and. Sorry, let me see what else I had on her. Yeah, she was drunk during office hours, created a hostile work environment for top aides and pursued an extramarital affair with her security guard and her husband, as well as accused of sexual.

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This is the third, third female cabinet secretary. And it wasn't much to ask of a cabinet secretary, all the male or female. Don't make it about yourself. Don't think you're an Internet influencer. Don't think you belong on the COVID of Vogue magazine. Don't use your position to obtain sex or special deals for your family. That's not a hard thing to do. And yet we know Kristi Noem and her boyfriend Corey. There was no reason for her to dress up the way she did. You know what I mean? It wasn't workmanlike for that type of job. But she made almost a cult of being agelessly attractive. And then she had this consort who had a lot of hangers on and they had this huge advertising budget which allegedly went to people with connections to him, I guess, or both of them, I don't know. And then this case is even worse because it's a trifecta. It was she was having allegedly improper relations. She was drinking while she was managing this vast government agency and she was using our assets for personal travel, et cetera, while her husband was also trying to get special perks. Pam Bondi was not like that. But Pam Bondi apparently had problems regulating or hurting all those attorneys. If you're going to go be the attorney general, you have to be an SOB because there's so many left wing people embedded in there. And she wasn't able apparently to get them out and get the team organized to indict people who needed to be indicted. But you know, I said that before about the agricultural secretary, Brooke Rawlins. I mean she had. The difference is that she had from some of these secretaries. Although Kristi Nolan was a very good House representative and very good governor, but she ran a big policy center in Texas. She's married, happily married with children. She's someone who ages gracefully. That's not a pejorative at all. She's very beautiful without all of that makeup and all of that stuff. No one would ever accuse her of drinking on the job or having her. So why couldn't they just use her as a model and get people like that is what I don't understand. I don't understand that at all.

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I've seen some say that women are being treated unjustly in these positions. That trumps have been.

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What's the unjust about it that they

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are looking for things so far?

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We'll see. We'll see if Cash Patel, we'll see if he. If it's true that he's been allegedly drinking on the job.

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Yeah, drinking on the job.

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Supposedly using transportation for personal use. He's supposedly too distracted by his hot girlfriend. Some of the things that they have accused the other people of. Well, we'll see if these are accurate charges or whether the Atlantic will have to withdraw those charges because it's going to be investigated.

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Didn't the Atlantic in the case of Kash Patel, who was accused by Atlantic of being absenteeism and drinking on the job in an article, and so he's suing them for libel. And Kash Patel, he. They've pulled, they've retracted the Story. Right.

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Allegedly, people have said that. And I looked at, I saw an early report that said that they apologized, but I haven't seen confirmation of that. And I, I doub have. I mean, they're funded by Steve Jobs widow. They have an unlimited amount of money. And their whole purpose is to give a upper crust intellectual, cultural take on hard left politics, to package it under that veneer. With that veneer. And the editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, do you remember when Kevin Williamson of the National Review quit the National Review and he went over there and I had always gotten along with him, but he fired at what we call Parthian shot. The Parthians, when they would attack Roman soldiers, they would ride away and then they had this technique of turning around and shooting a bow as they were going in the opposite direction. And they were very good at it. Well, he, he said, I can't believe they're publishing Victor Hansen anymore. I said something about the dangers of unrestricted laissez faire capitalism. So he attacked me. And I just said I didn't know what was going on, but he had announced that he was getting this big salary at the Atlantic. And I thought, well, you say very radical, volatile things. He was the one that said, said after. When Trump left on January 20, 2021, he said, the ape gets in the helicopter. What a thing to say about anybody, about a president. But he said really strange things, especially about penalties for abortion. But I just said, he's going to find that his new employer is much less tolerant than National Review. But I'm just predicting it won't last long. I didn't have any idea. I think five hours later, after they posted, they fired him the first day on the job because he had said things about abortion that was contrary to the liberal credo. So they're a hard leftist magazine, but they disguise that with culture. And they get. But Jeffrey Goldberg is a hardcore leftist and so they go after certain people like that.

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Yeah. All right, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then we'll come back and talk a little bit about Apollo. Stay with us and we'll be right back.

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Well, like all gods, he has different aspects. I should say that, that the four or five gods that are actual legitimate children of Zeus and Hera are kind of mediocrities. Their Hephaestus will get to the smithy God Vulcan in Rome, and we talked about Aries, Mars in Rome, that he's kind of bloodthirsty and he's volatile and crazy, but he actually is not that adept, at least in some of the early epic poetry, for example, and the Iliad. Iliad, Apollo, who's also on the Trojan side in the Iliad, starts out as a uniquely Greek God. All of these other gods, they had counterparts in earlier Middle Eastern civilizations or in Minoan Crete before the Mycenaean Greeks appropriated them. But it's very hard. I don't think the word Apollo, as I remember, appears on Linear B tablets, and we don't. There's a big argument about what the word means. There's a word in Doric Greek, apella, that means fence. Another one, apoluomai in Greek means to destroy. He could be the destroyer, but his original connotation was he was the God of the Muses, music and intelligence, rational thinking and especially healing. His son Asclepius was the actual God. That was the mechanics of healing. And Apollo was more I can bring a plague or stop a plague, as he does in the Iliad. And so he was a God of youth, beauty, rational thought, music. He always has a lyre, archery, the refined arts. Much different than Aries. For Nietzsche, he contrasted the Apollonian with the Dionysaac. And he tried to say that what made possible the Greek genius was they compartmentalized or they left open an avenue for cult irrationality. Eric Dodds kind of corrected Nietzsche, but he wrote a book called Greeks and the Irrational. So getting drunk, worshiping Dionysus, orgastic sects, all of that stuff was controlled by Dionysus. And that was not part of the Apollonian creed, which was beauty, symmetry. He's often associated with the most symmetric and Doric of temples. So if you look at the Peloponnese and he seems to dominate in the Peloponnese and Ionia, probably the biggest temple. I think Olympian Zeus at Athens is big, but I think the temple of Apollo at Didyma on the coast of Turkey is the biggest Greek temple. It's a Hellenistic temple. I went there once and visited and there's an oracle there. And he's also associated very early on with prophecy. But there's a big temple there. There's a big temple of Apollo in the Peloponnese. If you're ever in Arcadia, out in the middle of nowhere at the. At the temple of Bassae, there's the second most preserved temple in the world in the Greek world, except maybe for the Hephaiston and Athens and some of the ones in Sicily and southern Italy. But you go out, you know, you go to central Arcadia and you're out in the middle of nowhere, then you take a road even more out and you end up with this beautiful gray limestone temple in the middle of nowhere. Probably was built by Arcadian mercenaries that came back with their wages for compound about and honored Apollo. Because he's often before battles start, people pray to Apollo the loosener. He can loosen war, he can loosen violence, but he can also stop it. But he has a military aspect that in some ways is more pronounced than Ares, the representative war God. He's most famous, however, for the sanctuary of Apollo, Pythian Apollo at Delphi. Delphi, remember, is called the Omphalos of the world, the belly button of the world, the sinner. And it's probably the most beautiful site in Greece today, this biggest tourist attraction. And he had a temple of Apollo. And it was famous because on the architrave on east and west, one site said know thyself. And on the other side it said nothing too much whether it was made in Leon or made in Agon. But it was the idea of perfect symmetry, calmness, rationality. And you would go to find out the future from the prophets. The Pythia in the temple of Apollo, whether she inhaled psychedelic drugs, people have argued about that. And then she went into a trance and you got in a big line and you waited and you gave a written request for a prophecy and you had to pay for it. I had a friend once, I asked for a favor and he said, I need a promontion. Promontion. If you were in line, the long line, to get a prophecy at the Apollo, you paid off the person with a pro minion in front. You got in front of the line. So I was happy to pay because he's a very good guy. But any case, that temple is still there. The fourth century, there was a temple in Thebes. There was a temple at Apollo Apollo. There were temples all over the Peloponnese and in the islands. So there was two. Finally, there's two places where he reigns supreme as goddess of prophec, goddess of music, God of music, God of prophecy, God of medicine. And by the 4th, mid, late 5th and 4th century, they began to associate him with the son. And his son, Helios was the actual manifestation of the chariot that represented the sun. But he was the overseer of what. What made the sun come up every morning and set every evening. And people would worship him as Apollo the sun God, Apollo the prophet's God, Apollo the muse God, Apollo the destroyer, Apollo the healer. He had so many manifestations. And as I said before, he was purely Greek. So in some ways, he was the most popular of all the gods. And I think you could make the argument that if you were to look at all the temples, I think there was a study in the 19th century that labeled them, which how many were devoted to most gods. The three were Athena, Zeus and Apollo. And so he was very, very popular. But later philosophy, the Germans especially, they saw him as the antithesis to Dionysus. So Dionysus, the God of wine, Apollo is the God of sobriety. Apollo is the God of reasoned warfare, phalanx warfare, sacrificing before the two phalanxes met Dionysus, is just random violence, sexual rape. All of this stuff, as we see in Euripides, Bacchae. And I don't know if that distinction was so sharp between the Apollonian, the Dionysic in the ancient world, but later philosophers made a lot of it. But essentially, when you say Apollo, we associate it with Greek rationalism. And that's important because as the 5th century wore on and the scientific method, inductive thinking, caught on where you didn't just start deductively and say, Zeus is supreme and he is in charge of thunderbolts, and therefore there's a thunderbolt. So as Zeus threw it, they were starting to say, what causes thunderbolts? When do they appear during storms? Is there friction? Are there atoms? It was a scientific effort to explain natural phenomenon. And that's when he kind of escaped the paradox, because it wasn't a rejection of him because he was a God of rational thought. So people who were in the science, scientific community or medical community would sacrifice to Asclepius the son or Apollo, the father of rational thought.

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Is Pan, also, like Dionysius, an antithesis of Apollo.

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Pan. And we get the word panic from it. Yeah, Pan. Apollo had one manifestation I mentioned. He's the. When I said the. That there are linguists who try to associate his name with fence. He's also the God of the countryside. And I mentioned that at the temple of Apollo, it was in the middle of nowhere and sure enough, if you go there today, you will see goats and sheep herding around the site, just because it's so rural. But he was the God of herdsmen and his accolade or his subordinate was Pan. And sometimes Pan is also associated with flute playing and just like Apollo is with the lyre. And there's mythology that they competed with each other. And Pan, though, unlike Apollo, is on the dionysic side of Greek mythology and deities. He's kind of wild out in the country. He gets drunk and he's associated with satyrs and Dionysus and creatures that are not human or not. And he's also the prototype in many, many people think he's the prototype with the hooves and the horns, a prototype of satanic representations. In early Christianity, what the devil looked like, just because he was so he would come upon people and he would make them do things they didn't want to do. Kind of like Dionysus, but Dionysus was that way himself. In the Bacchae, there were references that he can assume that assume the appearance of a bull or with horns or hooves.

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All right, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and we'll talk a little bit more about people leaving the government. Sheila Sherfilis McCormick. And then we'll look into Kevin Warsh's appointment to the Federal Reserve. Stay with us and we'll be right back.

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Welcome back. This is Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. So we have another person leaving government in disgrace. This time she is Sheila, Sir. Phillis, sorry, McCormick. And she's accused of embezzling $5 million from FEMA in fact, which sou pretty egregious.

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So House Ethics.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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Usually the House protects its own, but George Soros, George, what's his name? They kicked out the Republican Santos. Santos. He's hardly George Soros, but he was so egregious about not telling the truth and having financial problems and lying and he was all so boisterous. And he was, he was a Republican that won in a purple district. So once they got rid of him, the left, you know, the Democrat, the Republicans had such a slim margin, they didn't want to get rid of him, but they made this statement that he was so egregious, but they never in their right mind thought that their own people because they were always protected by the media. You know, you don't investigate Democrats because they're morally superior to the rest of us. But once that broke the ice. Now after Swalwell, who was a systematic sexual harasser and allegedly a rapist, but after he broke the ice, now they're going to look at everybody and she, she thought she could survive. She played the race card. She's a member of the Black Caucus. She said she didn't do anything wrong, but she had her whole retinue and all of her family. And it was all, it was just shut and dry. And if she didn't resign, she was gonna, she'll probably be indicted, cited for embezzlement or fraud or misuse of federal funds. So it's just a matter of how, how far down the ladder they want to go because there's probably dozens of them that Eric Swalwell was using Campaign funds for child care, remember? And they knew all about that. But we'll see how far they want to go. Nancy Pelosi and her husband and probably quadrupled their hundred million dollars they made in inside trading. Nobody ever said a word they were so terrified of. If you mentioned that and you were Democratic Congressman, you were going to be off all the committees.

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Yeah. And that sounds a lot more egregious than maybe somebody had a drink at work or you know, anybody can be said to be tough and harass. What did, what was. She was.

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She had.

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Labor secretary was accused of creating a hostile work environment.

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That's a generic catch all phrase.

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Yeah. I mean you could say, oh it hurt my feeling, whatever.

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Some, I won't mention any details but a very liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, leftist colleague at a place I was at attacked me publicly for no reason. You know, on X. I was, I guess it was Twitter then. And I wrote and said why, you know, why are you doing this? This is breaking the rule of attacking a colleague in public because I hadn't done anything and what I had said had nothing to do with this person. And they said they, they thought they were going to double back and said I could have said more, you know, all that stuff. So I just read you're creating a hostile work environment for me. And this person went ballistic and said don't use that legalistic phrase if you're prepping for a lawsuit. In other words, I've done it myself but so many times and you're not going to get away with this. But I felt injured.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, hostile workplace. That's, that's. But that is what. It's a generic use.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Hostile workplace. In the old days was somebody going in there and you know, as I said before, my mother was a judge and she felt she was being sexually harassed. She didn't felt that she was a very prominent person in that legal profession. Was chasing around his desk every day. This is in the. So my father, who knew the person and liked him, walked up one day and said, he said to me, you know, I want you to come up to court with me. I said why? It's be interesting. Maybe you can calm me down. So he just went in, he said hello and hi. My dad was pretty big, almost six four. He was very strong. So he picked up this, I won't mention the person's profession but it was among the highest and put him on top of a legal cabinet. You know how they kind of bend like something like this. Put him up on Top of that. And said, think, sit up there and ponder whether you think it's a wise idea to chase Pauline around the desk, you know, and that would be creating a hostile workplace. I don't know.

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That's the end of that.

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That was the end of that. And he became a good friend after that. And I said to my father once, I thought I witnessed you put him on top of a cabinet. I said, well, I did it gently. I said, but he wasn't able to get off on his own. Well, he got off somehow. So I said, so that was the thing I liked about my dad. He didn't hold grudges, you know what I mean? He liked the guy, but he just said, you're out of bounds. Yeah. Today I don't know what they would say. We'd file a lawsuit or hostile workplace. Most days, the family. I know a lot of you listeners believe in the kin, that if a woman who was kind of a pioneer in her field, there weren't a lot of women, but she had a support group called Husbands, Sons, Cousins, Fathers. And so when she went in there and some males try to harass her or really try to, you know, go beyond that in this medieval way of think thinking, kin would come in there and they confront the person. If you think you're so bold with my daughter, my sister, why don't you try it with me? But that's all considered taboo now and primitive. I wrote a column about that, about chivalry. The. The death of chivalry is one reason that MeToo took off. Because when all these women in Hollywood were being harassed by this ogre, Harvey Weinstein, why didn't their boyfriends or husbands or do something confront him? And I guess that he had such power they thought he would ruin careers. But they could have done that. Yeah, that was a deterrent, but it doesn't exist anymore with the decline of the nuclear family. No. And it's considered pre. Civilizational taking, you know, not going to the. Because I just did my two hour sexual harassment annual. We all have to do it to get our checks at Stanford. And it's like this. It's questions. You can't speed it up. It's a video and it's multiple choice. But you could take drugs or get drunk and you could still get the answers, right? Because there's like. They show little drama. It's like watching tv. And so a guy walks in and he says to the young woman, woman, you're laying looking good today. And she says, thank you. And then he hovers around her desk and says, what's your secret to being. And then it stops and it says choice. A, he has a perfect right to express his opinion. You know, that's not going to be it. B, he was just seeing if she was interested in him. C, she should slap him. D, she should report him to the human resources director and have a formal complaint. And that was almost every question. It was that one. But my point is that the human resources thing is the solution for all problems today. Human resources. But in the old days it would have been very hard for me to too. I mean they would have had some help. That's what I'm trying to say. There were some major stars whose girlfriends were being harassed by and I think maybe Brad Pitt said to knock it off, told him. But you know, it was all that Harvey Weinstein who the Obama daughter interned with him and the Clintons cultivated him. They all thought he was wonderful until he wasn't. But they all knew he was a prototype of Eric Swalwind. Well, everybody knew what he was doing on the Democratic side, but he was their SOB, so to speak.

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All right, so we had a very good opinion on the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal. Matt Continetti wrote an interesting article about how sentiment against Israel is uniting the Democratic Party. And I thought he had some interesting points. He said Bernie Sanders was leading this anti is position and that supporters of, in contrast to the anti Israel people, supporters of Israel tend to also be supporters of America and these anti Israel tend not to be on the side of America. And then finally he was looking at Fetterman who is the only one who is not anti Israel. And he said that guy has an uphill battle and he, I don't think

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he'll be, he'll lose the nomination a Democratic nominee unless as I said earlier earlier, the Republicans cross over if they can in Pennsylvania.

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What about the thesis there?

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Matt Continenti is a very gifted writer. He's a son in law of Bill Kristol and he was always very gifted. Always. And when you see him on TV he's always very reasoned reason. But in the last three or four years he's been writing some really brilliant stuff. He's reached his apex maybe. I don't mean that in the negative he can go farther but he's really come into his own and he's a very young guy and he's very brilliant and he's trying to point out that the Democratic Party now is the home of antisemitism and there's a difference between The Republicans and Democrats, which he accentuates. Hassan Piker is a complete crazy man, right? He's the one that says that October 7th is justified and. And Hamas is wonderful, all that stuff. He's the one that was just supporting Luigi Manioni and said that the healthcare executive who was from the middle class and ran United Healthcare. I have an insurance policy with United Healthcare. I have a huge bill from this. And they've been very cooperative and very fair, you know, and if they had a problem, they billed me for a pet scam and they said it wasn't necessary when I wouldn't have been able to be an operator without it because if I had a metastasis it would be hopeless. But it came too close to another pit. But they were very good. And then I appealed and there was reason. But he said that was justified in killing him. But my point is that in the Democratic Party, a guy like Hassan Parker is celebrated. Celebrated justifying murder, justifying. October 7th just complete. He's on. But in the Republican Party, when you had a Nick Fuentes who was about the same, you know, he's ostracized, I mean, and people who did not ostracize him, like Tucker paid a big price for it. So it's different. He makes those distinctions. One of the things. And he's talking about anti Semitism. I wrote a column about two years ago and I going to try to elaborate on it. Everybody says I'm not an anti Semite. Some of my best friends are Jews. I only hate Israel. I only hate Netanyahu. And there's arguments that you can dislike Israel and like Jews. But here's the point that I'm going to make. And Matt referred to these things as well, it's frequency, frequency and it's fairness and its objectivity. So what I mean is take occupied land. Cyprus is occupied right now. 20% of the island has been illegally stolen by the Turkish government and had settlers that increased the ratio of turks almost to 30 or 40%. And no other country recognizes the Turkish serpent. Why don't people get upset about that? Armenians were just ethnically cleansed in Azerbaijanis. Nobody talks about that. There were about 250,000 that were lost. They had land there from 250 years. Nobody's talking about that occupied land. So why is it just Israel? My point is, why emphasize what you think is occupied land there, but you don't talk about anywhere else? And then they said, well, Arabs. Israel treats Arabs terribly. Have they ever been to Israel and seen an Arab Muslim versus a Wegar Muslim in China. So my point is, if you look at Muslim minorities, say in Russia, where they leveled Grozny in the Chechen war or the wers, why do they just look at this particular case when it's not even in the same league as those other others? So it's that selectivity. Or when you're looking at Tucker, when he, he says, I, I'm not anti Semitic and I'm not, I just treat everybody fairly. But almost every single day of his broadcast is focused on Israel. Israel, Netanyahu, Israel, and, and people who support Israel, almost 70% of them. Why not talk about. He used to talk about UFOs more, you know, but it's all on that. And so when a person disproportionately does that or when they accuse Israel of particular crimes and yet much more flagrant crimes are all over the globe, but you only talk about this little tiny country and you ignore all, you look at the misdemeanor, if there is a misdemeanor and you ignore all the felonies, there has to be a reason why that is. Or if you say somebody got, and this is what the right and the left Internet influencers do, they always say, I'm just going to throw this out. I don't know, I'm victor, I'm just throwing it out there. Not saying it's true. But you might consider, how did we get in that war? Who were the people who got us in that war? I think Netanyahu did. I'm just saying, well, if you're going to look at it very carefully, if somebody got us into the war and they were willing to risk their entire Air Force 3, 300 combat effort to the effort, and they wiped out the command and control of our enemy. And as recompense for that, they were showered with 500 missiles that hit their main cities and the Gulf over there, who also was hit, but they didn't send one plane over and they have to 10,000 times the financial resources as Israel. And they endow almost every major Ivy League school with lavished 50, 60 million dollars for Middle east studies. And the Islamic groups in the United States exercise as much power as the Jews now, and the Democratic Party is basically a socialist Islamicist base, why wouldn't anybody say, if you believe that a particular ethnic group or a particular abroad influences U.S. policy to the extent that they would cause a war, why not say, well, maybe Israel and Netanyahu had vested interest in this war, but also the Gulf did too, because they're mortal enemies. Of Shia Muslims and they have been lobbying the United States for years to take care of Iran. And therefore they got us into. But nobody says that. So it's the disproportionality, the selectivity where the emphasis is put. And, and when people say, and the Jews do this and they control this, then why not say, well, somebody is inordinately represented in hate crimes and somebody is inordinately represented as victims of hate crimes and it's Jews. Why not say that? But they never say any of that and that's what's disturbing.

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What do you make of the thesis that it's uniting the left, this antisemitism or anti Israel, whichever one you want to call it. Right. His thesis was it's, it's the thing that's binding all of these desperate groups together.

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You see, how it binds people is it does it in about three ways. The Democratic party is a socialist party and it has adopted a Marxist paradigm to explain inequality. It doesn't care about fluidity between the classes. We are the most fluid country in the world as far as going from the wealthy to the poor and the poor to the middle, the middle to the wealthy, the middle to the poor. I know so many families that kids were born with affluence and they're poor now. And I know so many people who came here with nothing and are rich. But my point is this. In that Marxist binary that doesn't happen. It's a complete wall between the oppressed and the oppressors. And that socialist message appeals to a country that has 53 million people that weren't born here, 16% of the pop. So that envy. The rich are doing this to me, this, okay? And that is now combined with dei. And the idea is the wealthy are the white people, even though I just quoted that statistically it's Indian Americans, Chinese Americans, Japanese Americans, Arab Americans that statistically are more likely to have a higher household income than so called whites. So my point is then you get in DEI and that unites the democratic base and they say, well, we're socialist and all the wealthy people are doing this to all the poor people and they're mostly white. Okay. And then so now you have Jews who if you look at household income are among the more affluent groups and they tend to be called white white. And you can combine the ancient plague of anti Semitism. I can't think of a major black leader that has not at some time expressed an anti Semitic. Rev. Wright said, Obama, they don't let me talk to Obama. Dem Jews. Jesse Jackson said I'm going to New York. I'm going to go to Hymie town. Remember that? Al Sharpton said, get on your Yarmouths and come over here, I'll fight you. So I could go on. But the point I'm making is when you have a large foreign born constituency, when you have DEI that says race is racism oppresses us and it's white victimizers, when you have a class socialist communist idea that a small group at the top own things, then to unite all those disparate ideas into a synthetic, you can synthesize them into one general the Jews. The Jews are white. The Jews are inordinately wealthy. The Jews oppressed us in the ghetto. The Jews oppress us with finance. They're always in Wall Street. They're over represented in Wall Street. See what I mean? They're over represented in Hollywood. I'm back to Kenya west, the Jews have screwed me over in Hollywood. The record producers are all Jews, the producers are all Jews and all of the that makes the money. They're all ripped off as if Jay Z and Kane west are not billionaires, right? But there's some Jew, as if he's in wizard of Oz behind the curtain with levers. And that's what they, that unites all those different ideologies. And so it's easy to blame them. And so a lot of white people too in the Democratic Party who would be objects under this Marxist analysis and the DEI analysis. They just say it's not white people, it's Jews. It's Jews. They're getting us in the war. They're always conniving and it's very funny. If they would go back in the 1930s and look at what Guring and Goebbels and Hitler were saying. It's the same thing. These are troublesome people. They have this weird clannish religion and they're always trying to get in the shadows and run things and every once in a while you got to clear them out. And, and that's what's really scary because it's getting insidious now and each day it seems to get more flagrant. I think that's what Matt Continetti is sensing, that it's getting more acceptable. It used to be it was just Netanyahu and then it was Israel besides Netanyahu. Everybody in Israel gets us into wars and they're not worth it. And now it is just Jews and they're saying that specifically. So give you one last example. When the IDF went into Lebanon they saw a statue of Christ, it was in a shrine and four soldiers turned it upside down, desecrated it. And they're going to be court martialed and held on trial for that. And that's what soldiers do sometimes. They do horrific things. And, and it was especially sensitive to Israel because traditionally when they go into Lebanon, their staunch allies were Lebanese Christians because of the shared Judeo Christian ethos. And they were both very skeptical or hostile to the Palestinians who encroached into Lebanon and the Shia Hezbollah Iranian faction that was dominant. So Israel did not want that to happen. So they're going to punish his people. But all of a sudden you see in the news today, the Jews, Israel, now they've overturned the statue of Jesus and they're going to talent it. But if you really wanted to be empirical, why instead of focusing on four Jewish shoulders that overturned a statue, why wouldn't you talk about 60,000 Kenyan Nigerian people in Central Africa being slaughtered by Muslims? Or why wouldn't you talk about Jewish people in London that were just attacked? God, I try to get into the, or get into the Israeli embassy, but you only focus on that when there's so many more egregious attacks on Christians by Muslims and that's a sign of what's going on. I don't think it's going to get better because the left believes it. And Chuck Schumer, who's Jewish, a few other Jews, Jewish people in the Democratic Party know what's coming and they're going to retire and they're scared stiff to confront this because it's young and there are people who are by and large indoctrinated in the universities. That's where it starts. It's all the Middle east studies programs, all the DEI programs, all the Marxist programs. You add those three things together and the ideology of the university is to hate. It is. I saw it at Stanford when a professor, the day after October 7th, not a professor, but a lecturer, said, everybody that's Jewish, put all your stuff, computers, bags on this and go and sit over here and you're going to learn what apartheid's like. That was his reaction. And we had, you know, flags in some places, I think it's a Chicago state or somewhere where they showed the airborne Hamas people with those gliders coming, coming in, you know, glorifying the slaughter. So that's what fuels it. Those three ideologies, socialism, Communism, DEI and the Middle east study Islamicism and they've all combined now in a trifecta. It's like the three headed the three heads of the dog karabbas that guarded hell. And boy, they're powerful.

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Yeah.

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At least the Republicans have spoken out against it.

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Yeah.

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Any Republican? Democrats are. Here's the difference. Democrats are dying to get Hassan Parker to have them on their show.

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Is it Parker or piker?

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Excuse me? Yeah, he's half Turkish. But no Republican wants to be caught with Fuentes. None.

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No, of course not. Well, that's. We're going to end it with that grim tale, Victor, because we're on a hard break here. So we'd like to thank the audience for joining us for this Saturday and

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thank you, Victor, for Thank you, everybody, for watching and listening.

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