Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words
Episode: Victor Davis Hanson RETURNS: Bay Area Democrats Play Populist at the Expense of the Middle Class
Date: February 7, 2026
Host: Victor Davis Hanson
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Overview

This episode marks Victor Davis Hanson’s return to longform commentary following a major surgery. He discusses the political outlook for the 2028 U.S. presidential election, the populist pretensions and elite character of Bay Area Democrats (notably Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris), and contemporary issues such as the Minnesota “insurrection” and ongoing left-wing street activism. Hanson's analysis draws on historical, cultural, and demographic themes to highlight what he sees as the fracturing of the Democratic party and the emergence of new coalitions on both sides of the aisle.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Victor’s Health and Return

• Victor discusses his recovery from two major heart procedures and the impact on his energy and mental clarity. Despite being at "about 50%," he returns to podcasting as part of his recovery process.
  • “If I fall asleep here or sound like I’m drunk, it’s not. It’s just the medicine beta blocker, which I despise.” (01:38, Hanson)
  • Goal: ease back into regular episodes as health improves.

2. Reflections on a Recent High-Profile Kidnapping

• Hanson briefly comments on the mysterious kidnapping of NBC journalist Savannah Guthrie’s mother, questioning why a relatively low-profile figure was targeted, suggesting possible inside knowledge.
  • “It suggests to me that someone had knowledge of the family or where the mother or something, something doesn’t fit.” (04:15, Hanson)
• Both hosts express sympathy for the Guthrie family.

3. 2028 Election Landscape

Democratic Candidates: Harris & Newsom

• Both are characterized as embodying the “Bay Area tradition” of wealthy, elite liberals who “play populist at the expense of the middle class.”
  • “They’re both Bay Area people…very, very wealthy, elite, exclusive people who play populist at the expense of the middle class.” (06:08, Hanson)
• Hanson argues neither Kamala Harris nor Gavin Newsom has a compelling or successful record to run on nationally:
  • Newsom’s touted “California Model” is lambasted—highest taxes, housing costs, poverty, and structural exodus of productive citizens.
  • Harris is tied to “the greatest failure in my lifetime”—the Biden presidency—citing foreign policy disasters, crime, and border crises.
  • “If people actually listen to them rather than just photo ops, they don’t like them.” (07:05, Hanson)

Republican Candidates: Rubio & J.D. Vance

• 2028 field likely led by Florida Senator Marco Rubio and Ohio Senator J.D. Vance; Trump’s absence shifts dynamics.
• Hanson praises both Rubio and Vance as effective communicators.
  • Rubio is seen as skilled at foreign policy (e.g., Panama, Venezuela, anticipated Cuba crises).
  • Vance tapped into white working- and middle-class disaffection, but must distance himself from antisemitic elements associated with the “Groypers” and Nick Fuentes.
  • “He’s going to have to find a way to excise the anti-Semitic portion of the leadership that appeals to that group while keeping that group in the fold.” (16:10, Hanson)

4. The California Problem and National Appeal

• Democrats from California face national skepticism due to the state’s high cost of living, regulatory burden, and polarized society.
  • “It is a pyramidal society of poor people on the bottom and wealthy people on the top…and what are they doing? 50% of the income tax is paid by 1%.” (09:45, Hanson)
• The hosts point out that California politicians struggle on the national stage—Reagan was the last to win the presidency; Newsom is unlikely to succeed.
• Hanson recounts the Newsom-DeSantis debate, concluding Newsom was “systematically” demolished by facts over style.
  • “He was out of the canned responses…DeSantis just quoted data, you got. We have half your population. They went through the budget, expenditures, debt, taxes. It was all in his favor. And when it was done, Newsom looked like a fool.” (12:09, Hanson)

5. Antisemitism, Demographics, and Division in the GOP

• The podcast delves into how new right-wing subgroups include both legitimate grievances (economic dislocation, anti-DEI sentiment) and toxic elements (nick Fuentes, antisemitism).
• Vance’s challenge: keep the disaffected base but “reassure Jewish voters and people who are angry about the new anti-Semitism on the right that he abhors that.” (24:52, Hanson)
• Rubio, less entangled in this, stands as a steady establishment figure.

6. The Minnesota “Insurrection” and Don Lemon

• Discussion around charges brought against protestors (and former CNN host Don Lemon) who invaded a Minnesota church.
• Hanson argues Lemon, now a “self-proclaimed journalist,” cannot use the First Amendment or his profession to excuse disruptive, unlawful acts.
  • “You have to prosecute him to say to all people, you can’t go into someone’s private religious observance and then disrupt it and say that is an expression of First Amendment rights.” (29:30, Hanson)
• Double standards highlighted between right-wing (January 6th) and left-wing protest responses.

7. Demographics & Shifting Party Coalitions

• Hanson claims Democratic voter registration edge is eroding; party now dominated by a coalition of the very wealthy, poor, and professional upper-middle class, especially single, college-educated white women and certain Black constituencies.
  • “The Republican Party is a middle class. So the Republican, the Democratic Party is very wealthy. … Look at California…all of them are starting to see that the message of the socialist Democratic Party is they’re targeted.” (37:15, Hanson)
• He attributes Democratic decline to low birth rates among blue-state populations, outmigration from high-cost, high-regulation states, and a turn against working and middle classes.
• Red states, with higher fertility and growing share of independents, are presented as politically ascendant.

8. 2028 GOP Strategy

• Victor recommends focusing on economic growth and stability rather than cultural “psychodramas.”
• Trump and allies should tout strong economic performance, avoid inflammatory rhetoric on social media, let Democrats self-sabotage.
• “Don’t get into sending memes or pictures or something that offends people…He’s going to have to win the independents.” (45:52, Hanson)
• Independents are seen as crucial, discomfited by progressive social policies.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "They’re both Bay Area people…very, very wealthy, elite, exclusive people who play populist at the expense of the middle class." (06:08, Hanson)
• "If people actually listen to them rather than just photo ops, they don’t like them." (07:05, Hanson)
• "Is he really going to run on: I want to make America like California? … It is a pyramidal society of poor people on the bottom and wealthy people on top." (09:45, Hanson)
• "J.D. Vance is going to have to find a way to excise the anti-Semitic portion of the leadership that appeals to that group while keeping that group in the fold." (16:10, Hanson)
• "You have to prosecute him to say to all people, you can’t go into someone’s private religious observance and then disrupt it and say that is an expression of First Amendment rights.” (29:30, Hanson)
• "The Democratic Party is a very wealthy…they have been the party of the very wealthy and the very poor and the upper middle professional classes." (37:15, Hanson)
• "Don’t get into sending memes or pictures or something that offends people…He’s going to have to win the independents." (45:52, Hanson)

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------| | 01:33 | Victor discusses health and return | | 04:15 | Guthrie kidnapping comments | | 06:06 | Democratic 2028 field: Harris and Newsom | | 09:45 | Newsom’s “California model” critiqued | | 12:00 | Newsom vs. DeSantis debate recap | | 16:10 | GOP base, Vance’s challenges with antisemitism | | 24:52 | Vance and reassuring Jewish voters | | 28:34 | Don Lemon and Minnesota “insurrection” | | 33:09 | Don Lemon’s controversial comments revisited | | 37:15 | Demographic and party shifts | | 45:52 | GOP strategy—focus on economy, win independents |

Tone & Conclusion

• The episode maintains Hanson's signature critical, sometimes sardonic, and deeply historical tone.
• He is openly skeptical of Democratic prospects (“They don’t have a candidate. They don’t have the issues.”) and advocates pragmatic, policy-driven Republican approaches.
• Emphasis is on the exhaustion of the Bay Area political model, demographic realignments, and the need for clarity and restraint within the GOP moving toward 2028.

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