Victor Davis Hanson: Targeting Christians at Christmas, Attacking the Culture They Chose to Join

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Podcast Summary

Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words

Episode Title: Targeting Christians at Christmas, Attacking the Culture They Chose to Join
Date: December 4, 2025
Host: Jack
Guest: Victor Davis Hanson (VDH)

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Overview of the Episode

This episode features historian and political commentator Victor Davis Hanson providing in-depth analysis on current sociopolitical developments in the West, with special attention to:

• The targeting of Christian culture and traditions during the Christmas season in Europe by radicalized Muslim immigrants.
• Broader demographic and cultural shifts threatening Western traditions.
• The meaning and enforcement of American citizenship and the oath of allegiance.
• The evolving threat from external actors such as China and Venezuela.
• Insight into the technocratic class and philanthropy in Silicon Valley.
• The personal ethos of academics, illustrated through anecdotes and institutional critiques.

The tone is candid, authoritative, and at times acerbic, as VDH blends historical perspective, cultural critique, and personal storytelling.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Targeting Christians and Christmas Traditions in Europe

Context and Incidents

• Jack describes a disturbing rise in protests and attacks at Christmas markets by radicalized Muslim immigrants, especially in Brussels and Germany. (02:26–04:02)
• Notable tactics include desecration of churches, public disruption, waving of Palestinian flags, and heightened security at European markets (concrete barricades to avoid car bombings).

Victor Davis Hanson’s Analysis

• No reciprocity: “Do you really believe that if you were a Christian … and you decided to go [during] Ramadan, go desecrate a mosque—I don’t think you’d be alive.” (04:11)
• Western authorities’ passivity stems from left-wing secularism and a culture of shame about their own heritage.
• “If you want to go torment them, we’re not going to get involved. In fact, DEI postulates that we should favor the non-white, non-European, non-Christian movement.” (04:34)
• The lack of punishment emboldens attackers; demographic trends favor radicalization and possible future dominance.
• Prediction: Europe faces a “last chance” for organized pushback: either political and centrist, or violent and from the far-right. (06:35–08:52)

Notable Quote:

“It’s a very strange mentality for them to come to the United States or to Europe and then so boldly to attack an icon of the civilization that you wanted to join. … But they think they can and will be rewarded in some ways by the exemptions they’re given.” (06:35)

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2. Citizenship, Assimilation, and the Meaning of the Oath

Comparing U.S. and European Models

• U.S. “melting pot” tradition (past tense) allowed for gradual assimilation, with pride in citizenship and patriotism even among naturalized citizens. (08:57–09:54)
• Europe lacked similar mechanisms for acculturation and now faces an existential challenge.

On Demographic Destiny

• VDH foresees Europe transformed, referencing the collapse of ancient civilizations and the phenomenon of “living in an infrastructure that somebody built, but they have no interest in knowing who that was.” (10:46–12:29)

The Oath of Citizenship

• The text of the U.S. citizenship oath is read. VDH laments that its meaning is now largely disregarded:

  “That oath doesn’t mean anything anymore. It really doesn’t.” (15:31)

• High-profile frauds by immigrants (e.g., the case of Ilhan Omar in Minnesota) reflect how easily allegiances can be abused.
• There’s “no example in history where [ethnic separatism] works.” (17:10)

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3. U.S. Foreign Policy: Venezuela and the Drug Crisis

Trump's Stance

• Trump decided to close the entire airspace over Venezuela to combat drug trafficking and signals military readiness. (23:21–25:33)
• VDH describes the corrupt structure under Maduro and the use of drug profits and oil funds to buy loyalty and retain power.

Double Standards with Mexico

• Mexico is responsible for more American deaths from drugs than any other country since 1970, but the U.S. tolerates it due to economic ties and fear of “Mexican war” accusations. (26:22–28:16)
• China profits by enabling fentanyl routes, further destabilizing American society. (28:16)

Notable Quote:

“China really likes what’s going on. They’d like to kill 70,000 Americans and they get away with it.” (28:16)

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4. China’s Cyber Espionage and the Weakness of U.S. Policy

Scope of the Attack

• Recent cyber attacks have impacted “every American,” according to the FBI—penetrating government, telecom, transportation, military, etc. (31:06–32:19)
• VDH critiques the unique U.S. openness toward China relative to its Cold War adversaries, contrasting lack of student and economic ties with Russia versus China. (32:19–33:45)

Corporate Complicity

• Financial and university elites defend China and facilitate its ascendancy, justifying it as a path to democratization. VDH scoffs at this:

  “They looked at our magnanimity as weakness to be exploited and we’re dumb.” (35:10)

• China’s expropriation of Western assets is recounted (“Here’s 10 cents on the dollar, take it or leave it.”). (38:04)

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5. Anthony Fauci and the COVID-19 Lab Leak Cover-Up

New Revelations

• Dr. Marty Makary argues on Miranda Devine’s “Pod Force One” that Anthony Fauci orchestrated a massive cover-up about the origins of COVID-19. (40:10–41:23)
• VDH recounts how U.S.-funded gain-of-function research was outsourced to Wuhan via Peter Daszak and EcoHealth, skirting American law. (41:30–45:48)

Suppressing Dissent

• Fauci and NIH allegedly pressured virologists to disavow the lab-leak theory or risk losing federal funding.

  “I would almost argue the opposite, that with intellectual progress you get moral regress. … You get more sophisticated ways of getting out of jams and lying the more education you have, especially if you’re secular and you have no transcendent idea of a God.” (48:30)

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6. Personal Anecdotes and the Ethos of Academia

Academic Scheming

• VDH tells a story of being pressured as a young professor to participate in an unethical arrangement, illustrating the petty, sometimes vindictive nature of academic circles. (50:23–57:08)
• He contrasts academic pettiness with the high-stakes deceit he attributes to Fauci.

Notable Moment
Jack: “You really give the sense that the world of academia is really scheming.”
VDH: “Is that any worse than. I mean, that. That’s nothing compared to what Fauci did.” (57:01)

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7. Silicon Valley Elites, Tech Wives, and Utopian Disconnection

Nicole Shanahan's Awakening

• Shanahan, ex-wife of Google’s Sergey Brin, reflects critically on the “Tech Mafia wives” and philanthropy:

  “I really believed I was helping black communities and indigenous communities rise up. But now the problems have gotten worse... At the end of the day they always go, ‘but climate change, social justice plus climate change, it gets progressive women 100% of the time.’” (60:05)

VDH on Technocratic Elites

• Identifies a pattern of wealthy elites “experimenting on lab rats”—regular citizens—without personally feeling the societal costs of their policies. (61:44–65:28)
• “The Democratic Party is not anymore the working class. It’s a very, very wealthy and the subsidized poor. And they don’t even treat the subsidized poor very well.”

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8. Listener Feedback and Reflections

• The episode closes with Jack reading several heartfelt comments from listeners, praising VDH’s fortitude and erudition, and some humorous exchanges about VDH’s experience with surgeries and academics’ quirks. (65:28–68:47)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "There’s going to be one great pushback and we’ll see what happens. Whether it will be centrist, organized and political, or it’ll be violent and hard, hardcore right wing." – Victor Davis Hanson (07:58)
• “That oath doesn’t mean anything anymore. It really doesn’t.” – VDH, on the U.S. citizenship oath (15:31)
• “China really likes what’s going on. They’d like to kill 70,000 Americans and they get away with it.” (28:16)
• “They looked at our magnanimity as weakness to be exploited and we’re dumb.” (35:10)
• “With intellectual progress you get moral regress.” (48:30)
• “They experiment on high-speed rail. You pay for. Sounds good to me. I fly private.” (63:02)
• “I am never going to be like these people. Never.” – VDH, reflecting on academic integrity (57:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Targeting Christmas in Europe: 02:26–12:29
• American Melting Pot vs. European Immigration: 08:57–12:29
• The Oath of Citizenship and Loyalty: 14:17–17:10
• Venezuela’s Airspace and U.S. Drug Crisis: 23:21–31:06
• China's Cyberattacks and Economic Espionage: 31:06–39:40
• Anthony Fauci and COVID-19 Origins: 40:10–49:19
• Academic Scheming and Anecdotes: 50:23–57:14
• Tech Mafia Wives & Philanthropy Realities: 59:44–65:28
• Listener Comments & Closing Reflections: 65:28–68:47

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Conclusion

This episode provides a sweeping, sometimes sobering critique of Western elites’ handling of immigration, multiculturalism, national loyalty, and external threats, all through Victor Davis Hanson's spare, unsparing lens. The discussion moves fluidly from granular anecdotes to grand historical analogies, peppered with memorable turns of phrase and illustrative stories. Listeners will come away with a reinforced sense of Hanson's perspective: that Western civilization stands at a crossroads, and the next phase will be determined by how citizens, policymakers, and leaders respond to today’s challenges.

Transcript

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Foreign.

[Jack]

Hello ladies. Hello gentlemen. Welcome to Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. We are recording on Sunday, November 30th and this particular episode will be up on Thursday.

December 4th, two days away from St. Nicholas's Feast Day.

Victor is the Martin and Eli Anderson and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and he is a senior contributor at the Daily Signal, which is the relatively new happy home of this podcast. Victor also does four daily. Yeah. Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. Yeah. Four weekly, four week seven, eight nine minute videos for the Daily Signal. What do you call that? Victor DAVIS Hansen? What? In a few words. In a few words, that's what. That's.

Victor's website. The Blade of Perseus [e-mail] you should check it out. You should subscribe. $65 a year, $650 a month. You'll regret not having done it sooner. Victor, there are some things I have promised we will not gotten to in our previous episode. We'll get to them, including the oath of citizenship in America. I'd love to get your thoughts on that. But we have some interesting additional topics. One of them is it's Christmas time. The Christmas season has begun in Europe and there are Christmas markets there. And guess what? The Muslim locals are protesting that and plenty more when we come back from these important messages.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Right is still right, even if you stand by yourself. Mr. Chief justice, may I please the court?

[Jack]

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[Victor Davis Hanson]

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[Jack]

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Foreign.

We are back with Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. Victor, let me get right to this story. All over Europe, Muslims are desecrating churches and holy places. I'm writing this. These are my notes and disrupting seasonal Christmas markets. So last night and we're again we're recording on Sunday the 30th. So it was.

Saturday.

November 29th. This is I'm reading from an ex post in Brussels. In a terrifying sight, Muslims stormed the opening night of the Christmas market in Brussels waving Palestinian flags, setting off smoke bombs and scaring families coming to your town if Islam is not exiled from the West. Victor, I've seen numerous other videos of Germany particularly has have these Christmas seasonal things in their plazas. There are now many places they're surrounded by these massive.

Concrete blocks to prevent any car bombings, et cetera. I don't know that German citizens are going to be car bombing during their Christmas seasonal markets. It's all because of the growing and intensifying local Muslim outrage at these kind of institutions which and as I said at the beginning also we see many, many signs of church masses being disrupted, priests being smacked urinating at St. Peter's et cetera. This is getting more prevalent. Your thoughts?

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Well, I'll just enumerate them. There are many. Number one.

There'S no reciprocity, thank God. I mean, do you really believe that if you were a Christian and there's a few left in the west bank, but if you were in the west bank and you decided to go what, the feast of Ramadan, go desecrate a mosque, I don't think you'd be alive. Number two.

What is the reaction of the authorities to this? The government? Well, the reaction of the government is we are left wing secularists, maybe agnostics or even atheists. So we look at our Christians as deviant people. So if you want to go torment them, we're not going to get involved. This is your. In fact, DEI postulates that we should favor the non white, non European, non Christian.

Movement over its antithesis here in Europe or the United States. So these people who desecrate Christmas ornaments, festivities, shrines do so on the prompt. Basically implicit though it is that they can get away with it because the authorities either are so guilt ridden and ashamed of their own culture and civilization and inheritance, or as secular leftists, they feel that they despise Christians too. And then when you confront them, like Gwyneth Thunberg or whatever her name is, she that she was on a ship with a bunch of radical Islamicists and they were not very sympathetic to the trans movement or the gay movement. So there's all these contradictions between the left and radical Islam, but compared to their mutual antipathy.

Toward Christians, it's not much. Then there's the question not just of reciprocity and.

The inaction of authorities, but what is the purpose of it? Jack, why, why do people come from the failed states of the Middle east or Turkey and come over here, here in the West, I'm speaking broadly of the United States and Europe and then no sooner they get here, they create a chauvinist.

Rah rah superiority of Islamic countries and Arab countries over their homeland. Is it.

We'Re going to take over and that Europe belongs to us and our demographics are 3.5 to 4.0 children per family and Europe's 1.4. So they're vanishing at, you know, 20 million a year and we're increasing by 5 million. And we're going to catch. Is that the plan or is it just inferiority? A complex of inferiority? Well, I came over here and everything works and it's so much nicer. Who do these people think they are? There must be something they did to us in Syria or Iraq or Egypt or Jordan or the West Bank. It's not like this. Oh, maybe it was the Crusades, I don't know. But it's a very strange mentality for them to come to the United States or to Europe and then so boldly to attack an icon of the civilization that you wanted to join. I don't mean you have to go to church, I don't mean you have to know anything about the Bible. I'm just saying just don't desecrate it. But they think they can and will be rewarded in some ways by the exemptions they're given. So it's going to get worse because the demographics are on their side and the immigration policies are on their side. And there's going to be one great pushback and we'll see what happens. Whether it will be centrist, organized and political, or it'll be violent and hard, hardcore right wing. But there will be a pushback. Yeah. And all of those governments in Western Europe are threatened. The Macron government has no popular support. Sturmer is the least popular prime minister in the last 12%. I think the Dutch government is a coalition of conservative governments. Maloney is still solid, she's conservative. The Spanish socialist government, we'll see how long that lasts. But there is a pushback in Europe against it and it'll be the last hurrah because demographically this will be about the last chance, really, if the immigration policies proceed, that you'll see an organized, effective saying, no more, not here. We're not going to do it anymore. I'm sorry.

[Jack]

Yeah. What if there are more mosques than operating cathedrals?

[Victor Davis Hanson]

See, it's very different than here in the United States because we do have a melting pot. Until recently it worked. So when I talk to, let's say, Mexican American couples or families that are 45, and I'm in the local supermarket and the person ahead of me cannot speak a word of English and basically speaks an indigenous language from Chiapas or Micho Khan and has four or five different EBT cards. And the person who is the clerk and the person Ahead of me in line are Mexican American citizens. And they're very patriotic and proud. And they look at that in the same way I would look at it if a bunch of Swedish illegal aliens came over and abused the system. And I had a member of my family depended on dialysis or something and couldn't get service.

Because we acculturate people, at least we used to when they came in diverse numbers and they were manageable and we believed in our civilization. But, yeah, they don't have that tradition of the melting pot. They were pretty much like the Japanese. They were uniformly French or they were uniform. The. The decolonic colonization started it. Enoch Powell, Rivers of bread and all that. They were aware of what was going on in the 60s, 70s and 80s, but not like now. Yeah. And they have no mechanism to acculturate.

[Jack]

Can you imagine, though, in 75 years, if the demographics proved the destiny of Europe, what Europe would be like? Would it be just Germany is now essentially Jordan, and in all its ways and operational economy. And economy.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I think it'd be historically sort of like around 900 BC, when you were in the Greek Dark Ages. And you walked around and you looked at these Mycenaean palaces that were crumbling. And what was that? Lion's gate. Hmm. My brother fell into a Tholos tomb. Who built these? Oh, they were gods. Somebody did it. Or maybe the 6th century in Western Europe in the beginnings of the Dark Ages. And you'd go by and say, wow, the Roman forum.

What's beneath all that brush? Overgrowth. What was this harbor at Ostia that now is all clogged? Who were these people? Who built this stuff? We use this aqueduct, but we don't know how to fix it. Who built it? Wow, there's a sewer here in Leon. I don't know how it came here. So that's going to be the attitude. They're going to come in there and they're going to be living in an infrastructure that somebody built, but they have no interest in knowing who that was. And they have, apparently from the stereotypes we get in the news of the violence, they have no interest. And assimilating into the body politic and enhancing European culture in the sense of its, you know, economy, military, politics.

[Jack]

So there's no Protestant work ethic in the.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

No. And they're gonna. So they're just going to be Syrian bizarre. You know, who is Leonardo da Vinci? What are these doors of the. What was the Duomo? Who did this? Perseus Cellini. I don't know what this statue is. Who did this? I could care less. The bridge still work? I'll use it till it collapses. That's the attitude.

[Jack]

Well, Victor, going to talk a little more about citizenship and affinity for your country or where you live. But first, this Christmas, give the gift of food security with an amazing deal from our friends at my Patriot Supply. It's called the Buy one gift two Christmas special. And you guys have got to check it out all month long. When you buy an emergency food kit, you'll get two more food kits free to give as gifts. That's right. Get a four week emergency food supply for yourself and they'll throw in a two. They'll throw in two one week food kits absolutely free. Okay. The one week kits make the perfect gifts for anyone on your list who's into preparedness or anyone who needs a little nudge in that direction. These days, it makes sense to have some food stored away for emergencies. And with this Buy one gift two Christmas deal, you're not only getting yourself prepared, you're also getting unique and meaningful Christmas gifts for your friends or family. And they're free. Okay, so head over to preparewithvdh.com and grab yours today. This offer is only around for the holiday season, so go to preparewithvdh.com do that now. That's preparewithvdh.com and we thank the good people from my Patriot Supply for sponsoring Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. I have to admit, Victor, when I see that web address, preparewithvdh.com I kind. I kind of immediately think of a cooking show. I like to see prepare with Victor. I like to see you in your funny.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

My dad. My mother was a great cook. My father was a great cook. I'm a worthless cook. Well, I'm a terrible cook. My wife was a great cook.

[Jack]

Oh, she's terrible. Yeah, I've had some of the most delicious meals thanks to Mrs. Hansen. She's terrific. Okay, Victor, I put this off from the last show and it's kind of a theme from what we're talking about here today. And this is the oath of allegiance people take when they become American citizens. I think it's important that we know there is this oath in your thoughts on it, and not only as it applies to citizens, but anyone that wants to be here. What's the obligation? Here's the oath. It says, I hereby declare on oath that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have hereforto been A subject or citizen, that I will support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, and that I will take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. So help me God, Victor, that's for citizenship.

I think if you defy the oath, you take the oath and then you lied, you should lose citizenship.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I think Donald Trump said that. He said that some people should be de citizened. Yeah, but what does Ilian Omar think happened or Tim Waltz think happened when it's a multi billion dollar fraud of missing funds to hundreds of Somali immigrants that were charging the government for fake meals, fake housing, fake support, fake names and sending that money in part back for real estate purchases, but also to particular political groups of which I think the Manhattan Institute article argued were terrorist related. And then you had Ilya Omar on spec. I thought, how many minutes will it take her to say this is a big lie and it's racist and it's xenophobia? It was about a minute once the story came out. So how that happened under Minnesota and everybody violated their oath to the degree they were citizens involved is a reflection that that oath doesn't mean anything anymore. It really doesn't. And I just, you know, so it's interesting.

[Jack]

If the oath of citizenship is meaningless, then if you're just, you have a visa or a green card you have where you should have even less of a claim on or the country should have less of an obligation to you than it has to a citizen. Yeah. It's just, I would think it's easier legally or should be an easier mental state to say get out of here and throw you out.

Even though you have it all.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I don't, I don't know. I'm not a Paleo. Right. Person that thinks it's all going to explode. I have confidence in the resiliency of the system, but you have to have people of good intentions that are running it. When you have people who believe this diversity, inclusion, equity and inclusion means separatism by race or ethnic or tribe, gosh, there's no example in history where that works. There's none. And if you say, well, we're a multiracial democracy, well, look at India and look at Brazil and tell me how that's working out. We work out because we don't do that. Or at least we didn't do that. So I think everybody is at the point now where their attitude is this. To the extent you. I'M speaking to or you, I'm listening to believes that your race, ethnicity, foreign birth is essential to who you are rather than incidental to your Americanism. I don't want to listen to it anymore. I'm tired of it. I think that's what we're going to be like and then we'll see. We're going to have, this is what we're in. We're in a counter revolution. And I don't know if it's going to succeed or not, but there are victories and there's, there's defeats. The victory. I look at the border, there's not 10,000 people coming across today. I thought that's a miracle. I never thought that could be. Saul. Yeah, that's, and I see that I.

You know, it didn't back down in New York, there's a story today where ice, the protesters were at one of their ICE substations and they were blocking them. They were trying to assault them, just leaving with their cars. And the NYPD did short work with the protesters. They just pushed them away and ICE was on its way. So there's a counter revolution and we'll see if it works or not against the left.

[Jack]

Well, Victor, let's take a break. And when we come back from that, I think we should get your views on Donald Trump's.

Donald Trump's stance towards Venezuela. And then we have.

A very interesting article about, from Fox News about the Red China spy network. And we have Anthony Fauci, more evidence about him stage managing a cover up. Look, we haven't talked about him in a month. We're due.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

It's like a booster shot. Yeah, he's like a rock in a lake. You throw him in there and the ripples never stop.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Well, we'll get to all that when we come back from these important messages.

Hey, folks, we're back with Victor Davis Hansen in His own Words. We are happily at the Daily Signal for this podcast. And then Victor also does four short videos a week. Victor Davis Hansen, in a few words. He does them for the Daily Signal. So accept no imitations for this podcast.

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[Victor Davis Hanson]

This is really us. It's not the fake I AI that you're going to be that I get email about every day. Did you say that, Victor? Did you entitle your podcast with the F word? No, I didn't. That's not me.

[Jack]

I have to drop a name because you've mentioned before, Max Nikias, who is the great former president.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

He has a book coming out on Encounter Books, everybody, A life story about how a young boy who grew up in northern Cyprus and went to school and survived the Turkish occupation and ethnically cleansing of all the Greeks on northern Cyprus. He lost his ancestral home. He went to Athens during the. And he had lived through the coup. I was there during the coup of 73 and the revolution of 74. Then he came with nothing, nothing, nothing. And he worked his way through. He was a janitor and graduate. And he came to USC and he was hired as an assistant professor, then associate professor, then a very renowned engineer who had a lot of great work done in his field. And then he was a full professor, assistant dean, Dean, assistant provost, Provost and president of usc.

Well, just an amazing story to read. I hope it's going to be out very soon from Encounter Books, I think early March. Yeah. And we'll have him on our show.

[Jack]

You will? Okay. Because he, he wrote about that, but then he did add at the end, oh, by the way, there are. There are AI versions on the podcast and the webinar. So I just brought it out. Lots of people are noticing these fraudulent portrayals of videos.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I don't know what to do with it. I, I know I've been told that, you know, if somebody has 50, 000 views, that would be on our show. But it's.

Somebody wrote me and said, victor, you look a lot better. You seem like you're younger. And I looked at. And I was Photoshopped my face.

[Jack]

All right, Venezuela. Trump declares airspace above Venezuela is to be closed entirely as he ramps up lethal strikes. This is from the Daily Mail. President Donald Trump has declared the airspace over Venezuela to be closed in its entirety as the US Continues to threaten military action against the country. In a Saturday morning post to his Truth Social. That would be yesterday, from when we're actually talking. He asked all, quote, airlines, pilots, drug dealers and human traffickers to steer clear of the area. Warships, aircraft and military personnel have moved into position near the Caribbean country in the last few months, raising fears that Trump is preparing for military action. Victor, your thoughts on Donald Trump's positioning on Venezuela?

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Well, I think everybody knows that Maduro was not elected, he stole the election, and he is behind the drug running like Chavez was. So basically, his modus operandi is to get fentanyl and cocaine, produce it, and then fly it in or ship it by sea into the United States and use those monies. Then along with the stuff he skims off the oil revenues from its oil exports, to pay off the oligarchic class, to pay off the military class, to pay off the media and retain power. So Donald Trump has got this idea that 70,000 people die every year from fentanyl and perhaps 900,000 going back to the 90s. And so he's shut the northern border, he shut the southern border and now he's saying they're coming in by boat or air and we're going to stop the boats and destroy them on the high seas if we have good actionable intelligence. The left is going berserk. But of course the left didn't say anything about Barack Obama. Hundreds of Predator assassination drone strikes along the Pakistani border killed a US citizen and his child. So I don't think they said much at all. They have much credibility. But I don't know whether he means the domestic airspace when he says above, I don't know what the international rule is, how many feet above a country. I think he's saying you can't fly over at a height. But I don't think he's talking about, you know, a helicopter flying from one city to the other inside Venezuela. But he may be, I don't know. This is a new breaking story, but I don't think we would want to enforce that. I can't see American jets flying all over inside Venezuela and forcing Venezuelan domestic planes down. I think he's talking about nobody's going to go into Venezuela by error and nobody's going to go out.

Until the drug stops and we'll see what pressure it is. Part of the problem is I don't think Maduro, unlike the assads, they don't have a patron they can go to. Nobody wants to go to communist China. So where's the guy going to go? I mean there are some right wing, a lot of the right wing governments. Chile is starting to disappear. Bolivia, Peru.

Argentina. So there's no, I mean there's not a lot of places to go. Colombia, maybe he'll go across the border to Colombia. But the other problem he has, it's contrary to MAGA ideology that says there shall be no optional wars, forever wars. So it has to be a one off like the Iran bombing for the mega base to stay, you know, in support of it.

[Jack]

Wow. So we'll see. You've talked about say with Mexico since 19, I think our last, not the last show but the previous one since 1970. What country has been responsible for more deaths of Americans?

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Mexico has.

[Jack]

Yeah, but we take that sitting down. We Take this sitting down. How many?

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Well, Mr. Obradar did help Joe Biden off the stage. That was kind of true, but.

[Jack]

And he sold him. He sold them oil, too, didn't he?

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yes. And Mexico has 50 consulates in the United States. They get 63 billion billion billion dollars a year from remittances from their expatriates that are probably around 20 or 30 million who, many of them are on public assistance to free up cash to send home to their families, who will not get cash from the Mexican government, racist though it is. Or because it is. And in addition, they have a sweetheart deal with the Chinese to fabricate Chinese products to get around tariffs. They have 171 billion billion billion dollars surplus with us. The cartels bring in, I don't know, 15 billion a year in human trafficking and drug sales. They kill 70,000Americans a year if they would just send fentanyl and say F tablet. No, they don't. They disguise it as uppers, downers, all sorts of recreational drugs so people will not. And then they get a high and they don't know what it is. And then they. They odd or they kill themselves or whatever. But China really likes what's going on. They'd like to kill 70,000Americans and they get away with it. And then if you say anything to the Chinese, to the Mexican government. Oh, Mexican war. Oh, it's been racism.

Oh, I'm so beautiful. We have 40 million people who came in. That's what Obrador said. Oh, you were. What did Sheinbaum say? She's looking very carefully at how ICE is treating Mexican nationals in LA. They're there illegally. Mr. President. We don't go into your country and say, that American who snuck across the border into Mexico and is working off the books in Mexico and you arrest him for immigrant. We don't come in there and say, you better be careful how you treat him. We don't. And there's a lot of thousands of Americans in Mexico, but believe me, they come in legally and they. Legally. And they have money. And that's why you welcome them in there and you build developments for them so they will come with their money. And yeah, we give Mexico all sorts of exemptions. And then anytime you say, you know what, you're not going to have 63 billion in remittances. You're not going to have $171 billion trade surplus. You're not going to have the cartels making billions, trafficking, destroying the border, sending in drugs, and you kill. Oh, Mexican war. Oh, Imperialist Yankee go home. Everybody's tired of that too. We've heard it for our entire lives. You know what I mean? The reconquista la raza Aztlan. No, no, no. The reality in 2025 is half the country polls, they want to come to the United States. Just simple. I've only opened the border up and all of Mexico would be here. Yeah.

[Jack]

I've only been to Cabo on a National Review cruise or maybe there was some other port on the eastern Cozumel. I was on Cozumel.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yeah, yeah, as well.

[Jack]

But other than that, I've never been to any. And I've heard some terrible stories of people going to Mexico City and getting.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I went to Puerto Vallarta once for three days. I got off the National Review cruise.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

And it was supposed to be one day. And then I stay at the hotel and then there was a incident in town, a cartel shooting. Oh, and then they canceled the flight to Dallas. And then we got. I waited another day and then they. I don't know what. They said I would stand by. I did not. I had a ticket. And the third day being there, we flew on the way to Dallas and the plane shook a little bit and the pilot said that the fuel was improper. So we had to make an emergency stop in College Station to be refueled.

[Jack]

The air travel annals of Victor Davis Hanson never ended. All right, well, let's talk about. You mentioned China before. Here's another headline, Victor came out today in Fox News. FBI official says every American like impacted by Chinese cyber attack. What's he talking about? Okay. A former FBI official claims that it is likely every American has been impacted by a Chinese state sponsored cyber attack. International law enforcement agencies including the FBI and National Security Agency issued a joint advisory in September warning the public that CCP sponsored actors are targeting many aspects of American lives, including telecommunications, government, transportation, lodging and military infrastructure networks. The cyber attack wasn't limited to the US it targeted many companies according to international agencies. The three Chinese companies believed to be behind it's called salt typhoon work for China's intelligence services, which includes units of the Liberation People's Liberation army, et cetera, et cetera. I don't know, Victor. Should we be surprised? Not surprised.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I don't understand this. During the cold war, the 40 year old cold War, we didn't have Soviet, we didn't have 300,000 Russian students in the United States. We did not let Russians buy farmland next to US Military bases. I don't remember a Russian balloon traversing the United States with impunity.

Had Russia had a virus manufactured in a Russian biology lab that killed 1 million Americans, we would have held them accountable to the extent you can with a nuclear rival. My point is we're in this existential.

Cold war almost with China. And yet they've got 300,000 students here and 2%, 3%, 3 or 4,000 of them are active spies. Every time there's a clip of a Chinese new weapons system, anti aircraft, aircraft, destroyer, they look exactly like they came out of the Pentagon or General Dynamics or Lockheed or something. It's just incredible. And so I don't know how they get away with it other than two reasons. One is the old DEI that they're very adept. As soon as people said that Wuhan lab was the nexus of this manufactured virus.

All of a sudden Fauci and Colin said, how dare you? You don't have my medical credentials. But we know that the Chinese also waged a propaganda and said anybody who does that is racist, nativist. That's the old yellow peril. How dare you? You're impugning Chinese citizens in the United States. That was number one. And then we have the financial class that are the billionaire class that outsourced, offshored, invested in China. And their idea was profit, profit, profit. And their pretense, pretense, pretense was, well, I transferred my steel factory from Youngstown to China. Well, I transferred my ball bearing factory. Well, I make Xerox machines in China. And the reason I do it is not because of profit. It is because the more affluent that China becomes, a rising consumer, affluent middle class. Given China's population is 1.4 billion, it will be, I'm quoting literally what somebody told me 3,000 times. That somebody meaning about 30 people, that rising community, consumer class of about 400 million larger than the United States will demand.

[Jack]

What?

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Because we know from affluence democracy follows and liberalization and it will take its rightful place in the family of nations. No, they looked at our magnanimity as weakness to be exploited and we're dumb. And so they took that money and became a, I don't know what you'd call it, corrupt communist dictatorship. What they always were, except now they were proto capitalist or quasi capitalists. But the reason I'm saying all this is they get away with murder, Jack, because the financial class knows them personally, likes them and they're everywhere in the United States and they made a lot of money. And then the left wing liberal class in the media and the university says that they're victims and they're formerly third world people that we have had a history of oppression and we should feel really bad about it.

[Jack]

There's a former Republican congressman from Virginia, Frank Wolf, who probably been gone about 12, 15 years, but he's like Chris Smith from New Jersey, very human rights oriented, good guy. But he was in touch with me a couple years ago and he said, you brought up when we had the Cold War with Russia, you would not find a former congressman as a lobbyist for Russia. There was just no way that was going to happen. A retired senator, retired congressman was somehow going to be doing some bidding for.

Russia. Now you can't swing a dead cat nut in Washington.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

How about if you were Senator Diane, the late Senator Dianne Feinstein, head of both the Senate Intelligence at one time in the Senate Judiciary Committee and your Russian chauffeur for 20 years was listening to everything you said and reporting back to Moscow. You think the government would have said, well, I thought it was nothing, he was a good guy, it was just chit chat. No, but she had a Chinese chauffeur who was doing just that and the CIA, FBI interviewed. Oh, there was nothing, there was just chit chat. No, China has a special place. I don't know what it. Maybe it was because they were an ally, but so was Russia in World War II. But unlike Russia, we fought the Chinese in the Korean War and it was pretty bloody.

[Jack]

But I think you hit on it with the industrialists or the financiers who were on their pretense is would there have been money to have been made in Russia while Brezhnev was premier versus yeah, there was money to be made in China.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

You know who there to remind me of? Because I had a debate with one of these industrialists, I won't mention his name or where or when. They remind me a lot of Armour and Hammer. Remember him? Oxford Petroleum and he got from he was a crony of Stalin and he got the franchise monopoly. I think he started making pencils in the Soviet Union. He alone could make pencils. But he was always telling us during detente how good the Russians were and it wasn't that bad and the great famine was exaggerated and all of that stuff. But now we have thousands of arm and hammers that, you know the only good thing that this happened recently is China has fleeced those people so much. I've talked to so many people who say I invested in China, I had a factory in China, I had to hire X amount of Chinese administrators and my corporate team, they took pictures, they Xeroxed my production. They learned how to run it. And when they got to a critical point where I was unnecessary, they expropriated it and said, Here's 10 cents on the dollar, take it or leave it. And they took it. And then I would tell other people, don't go do over there. And they would say, well, you'll make money for 30 years until they master it. So it was the industrial class that did a lot of that.

[Jack]

Well, the financial class too. I'm working for Goldman Industrial.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yeah.

[Jack]

I mean they got paid enormous salaries for doing what they're doing and they may be bitching about it now from their, from their retirement.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

And this is a good lead in to none other than the esteemed wizard of our national iconic Anthony Fauci, graduate.

[Jack]

Of Regis High School in Holy Cross.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Sorry, I wouldn't repeat that if I were you.

[Jack]

Here's the headline. This is an exclusive from the New York.

Post. This is from the other day. Fauci involved in massive COVID 19 origins cover up FDA Chief Marty Makary tells Pod Force One. Pod Force One is the podcast of the great Miranda Devine. And she had. This is her article. Fauci's orchestrated a massive cover up about the origins of COVID 19 while serving as a top public health official, et cetera, et cetera. FDA Commissioner Marty Makari argued on the latest episode of Pod Force One. Makari, a former professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, explained to Miranda Devine that as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Fauci went to great lengths to suppress the theory that COVID 19 leaked out of a research lab in China, something few in the medical community picked up on. Quote, one thing that's extremely obvious that very few people realize and certainly hardly anyone in the medical establishment where I come from realized, is that Fauci was involved in a massive cover up of the origins of COVID A massive cover up. The FDA commissioner said, I don't know that that's surprising, Victor.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

No, it is not. When they outlawed gain of function research.

In the United States, he contacted. Well, I don't know him very well. His friend Peter Dasak of what? Echo Health. What a nice name. Echo Health. We're making artificial viruses that will kill 70 million people. But we're going to be called Echo Health for what? The ecology of them. I don't know what. But Peter Dasak then transferred millions of dollars from Fauci National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Disease under the auspices of Francis Collins and the National Institutes of Health to the Wuhan Lab. And so as soon as this place blew up, so to speak, they got on an email and they basically communicated with a lot of other scientists who said, you know what? I looked at this virus and it came out. No, it didn't. It did not. It did not. It was from a pangolin, a bat 100 miles away or a pangolin in the market nearby. But it did not. You can't say that. So then the word went out that anybody who said that, and there were a lot of people I wrote about it, I did a lot of research, and I just said, it's probably from this. I got really attacked by people where I work and what are you doing? Where's your degree in medicine? I just gave an interview to a radio station, and I never call myself doctor. I never do. But the guy just said, before we go on, let me read your bio. You got a PhD in classical languages? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what. What do you want to be called? Victor? So we did an interview, and it was. It was really early, like March 2020. And the guy said, finally, where do you think it came from? I said, it's pretty obvious. You got it? I said, it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck. It's a duck. It's right next to ground zero. There is a reason why you could not fly out of Wuhan for 10 days while you could fly to any city in the United Basic major cities with direct flights from Wuhan, sfo, lax, Kennedy places in Italy and Germany. So they knew that they weren't going to let people. They knew about it. And you can't find anybody involved in the hierarchy of that lab that's still alive or kicking or known. So what do you think? And they won't give you the genotype, and when they do, it's probably altered. So next thing I know, I get a call from somebody who I'll remain quiet. Did you spread false information and use your PhD as a medical. No, I didn't. Well, there was an ad on the television when I was driving. It said, Dr. Hansen. And I said, I don't know what that's about. He asked me what my background. He read my bio. He didn't say that while it was on the air. Maybe they advertise it. As a professor with a PhD, you have no business getting out of your lane. Yeah, right. This came from a bat. This came from a pangolin. And we all heard that Tom Cotton was one of the first senators to really just Say that's ridiculous. So then basically what this story is about is that Fauci and Collins panicked as soon as they heard it, escaped, and they were basically. If I could cut to the quick, they were basically telling prominent.

Virologists that were getting millions of dollars for their lab. If you want that money, then you're going to say that it is a natural occurrence. You're not going to say this is an engineered virus that came from the lab which we were secretly helping fund. And I mean fund in the broadest sense, not just $6 million to Echo Health, but I'm talking about telling scientists, you can share your classified research with them, you can go over with them, you can bring instrumentations with them, you can teach them how to set up a lab. That's all okay, because it's illegal here, but we can use some other research.

And that's what it was. And that's why he got a pardon. He communicated. It wasn't like Joe Biden said, oh, my gosh, I have a sneaking suspicion that Fauci did such a wonderful job in advocating that we lock down all the schools and we wear two masks and we social distance that people on that paleo. Right. Are going to go after him for that. So I'm going to give him a pardon. No, the idea came from Fauci and he sent to Mr. Auto Pen, I need a pardon and I need it quick because these people are onto me and they're going to see what I did. And I basically blackmailed, if I could use that harsh term, a lot of prominent scientists that they, with a wink and a nod, were not going to be fully funded as they had been in the past unless they disabused themselves of their own research and got on the party line wagon, and that's what they did.

[Jack]

To quote the great Max Bialysht from the producers, money is honey. And that's what this boiled down to. You had him several times on the previous show.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

We did.

[Jack]

Victor, but Dr. Stephen. You can call him Dr.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Right, Quay.

Dr. P. Yeah.

[Jack]

So he. What's. He has a position now with the.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I think he's up for one. I don't know if it's public knowledge, but I hope that he is. There have been rumors. Rumors only.

[Jack]

Oh, rumors, okay.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

That he may be Dr. Fauci's replacement. Wouldn't that be ironic that the person who was prominent in exposing him and who himself, had examined the genetic sequence of the SARS virus and very early on, as a voice in the wilderness, warned people that it was manufactured by intent. Although he never said that it was released intentionally. He suggested it was accidentally. Other people said it was. I don't think it was, but it could have been. But my point is that he may be up for a big appointment. I heard that.

[Jack]

I hope so. His analysis of the doctoring of the virus is. Was just so powerful. And he talked to you, I think three times maybe.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yeah. We've had him. We do. We had him on not long ago. And I have. I'm 72 and I got my PhD. It was all done when I was 25. I don't know where the, when the thing came in the mail officially. But my point is this, is that.

I've been around PhDs my entire life and I would, I don't want to demonize them, but I would say that their veracity, their trustworthiness.

Their adherence, adherence to ethics is not commiserate with their education. There's no, there's no evidence in my own experience that with greater education comes greater morality. In fact, I would almost argue the opposite, that you get intellectual. With intellectual progress you get moral regress. In other words, you get more sophisticated ways of getting out of jams and lying the more education you have, especially if you're secular and you have no transcendent idea of a God or Christian God.

[Jack]

Yeah. Maybe also a more determined sense that you're owed something because of. Because you have the PhD. I know it's something always comes down to again, money, you know, so you have to.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

You're divorced from where money comes from. You don't really know how to make it. You've never run a store. You don't know how to farm. You don't know how to, you know, make steel. You never worked at a 7:11. You just get a check in the mail every month and you get your summers off. And then you never quite get enough money compared to what you think you deserve. You have a PhD from Stanford or Harvard, but the people that have JD's from Stanford or Harvard or the people have MBAs from Stanford or Harvard or the people who have PhDs in computer engineering are all wealthy. And I'm smarter and I'm a humanist. I'm a humanist and I'm more moral and I don't have any money. That's not fair. People don't underappreciate people like us with PhDs. That's their attitude.

[Jack]

Yeah. Comes with a chip on the shoulder.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

It does. Yeah. And little scams too. Don't scam me. I won't mention. I'll just say very quickly, this is funny. And the people are all dead. So I was a young professor, and there was this professor, I won't mention his name. And he was a history professor where I used to teach, which I won't remember. And he said to me, I'm going to teach at this other place on Fridays.

And I want you to teach my class. And it's against. You can't have two jobs. But I've been doing this. And because you're in my field. So for a whole semester, I would go in and teach his three hour class.

And he never.

[Jack]

Did he pay.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Well, I'm getting to this. He just said.

And I had a kidney stone the 14th week. And he thought I wasn't going to teach because I wasn't being paid. So I said, you know, professor, so and so, I can't do it today. Why can't you? You have to. I'm all day teaching at the other place. And I said, because I have a kidney. I don't believe you. And I said, I do. And he said.

I went and I took something called Flomax or whatever they gave me. It passed. And the next week, then the semester was over, and he came and he gave me a check for 45 hours of work. $300. Oh, my gosh. So my mother, being Dudley do Right of any person I've ever met in my life, she would call me on, I don't know, April 1. Did you pay your taxes? You have to pay them early. I do not want any deductions. Do not deduct your office. We're going to. You know, that was the way she was about everything. And so she called me one. I said, you know, it's so weird. This guy gave me a check for $300. And she said, for what? I said, well, I was teaching his class. She said, you were participating in something that was fraudulent. I said, I know it. I didn't know what to do. I don't have tenure. He kind of threatened that he would vote against my tenure. He said that to me.

[Jack]

Me. Wow.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

So she said.

Don'T cash it.

And I said, okay, I won't cash it. Well, my mom was a genius. So about six months later, he gets into a big fight with my dean. He was in a different school. I was in the School of Arts and Humanities. And my dean basically said to me, if you want tenure in this, you will support this course. I was on the General Education committee and they had a competing arc. Dean wanted one course in. He wanted the other. I didn't know which. I said, okay. So I was there. I said, I think that this course in humanities is better than this course in history. So then he comes over and he says to me, I got you now. And I said, why? You cashed that check. So I'm going to go report you to the Academic Senate and I'm going to report you to the president that you came to me and said you didn't make enough money and you wanted to be paid extra. And I gave up one of my key classes and I had no choice because I wanted to help you and I gave you a lot of money. I said, well, that can be traced. And he said, yes, I wrote you a check. I said, did you ever look at your banking account? And he said, no. And I said, well, I tore it up the moment you gave it to me. He said, you didn't either. So he goes back, he calls me up and he says, this is so funny. He says, are you going to tell people that I taught somewhere else? And I said, it depends on your attitude. I have no problem with it. I would never do it. It's unethical. But. But I didn't take any money. I wanted the teaching experience. I did. And I thought that if I did a good job, people would know who I was. I was part time, I just got there. So I thought it was a nice thing to offer. I was kind of exaggerating. And then he said, you tore up the check. You tore up the check. And I said, so you say I tore up the check because there's no canceled check on your month. They used to mail checks to you. And he said, no, there isn't. I said, I don't know what happened. Did I actually ever write it? And I said, well, I tore up the check. I said, I don't think I ever wrote it. And I said, well, I think you did because my mom is a judge and she suggested I tear it up. But I also put it in the sealed envelope.

[Jack]

Oh, my gosh.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

So he came over. He did come over, and then I showed him these pieces of the check.

[Jack]

Oh, gosh.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

That's a story about academics and money and how cheap they are and threatening.

[Jack]

You and threatening me at least two ways.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

And then my mom, being very bright, said, and that's not the only thing he's going to do, so you be on your good behavior. So I said, okay. So about a year later, I was up for. I was full time. And two years later, I was up and he hated my guts. So all of a sudden, this beautiful young girl comes over, maybe. Well, not young, about. She was a divorcee, about 30. You know, I was just a bumpkin farmer. I'd just been hired. And she comes and goes, I want to be in classical history, and you're the only person, and could I have an independent study with you?

I mean, she looked like she was off some. I said, okay, yeah, you know, so she came in, and each time she came in, the. I had the door open, and it was out to the outside, and she said, would you please close the door? It's, you know, it's cold. The wind is coming in. And I said, okay. And then she'd get closer. And then something clicked. What? My mom said, right. Not that I was a mommy's boy, but my mom was really smart. So I said, you know, I have to ask you, who told you this? And she said, well, professor, so. And so did you. And I said, I want to tell you something. And then she started crying, and she said, you know, I really like this independent study. And he told me to come over and get involved with you.

I said, are you serious? She said, yes. And then I was supposed to file a complaint against you, and if I did that, he was going to help me.

[Jack]

Look, I know this is an anecdote, but you really give the sense that the world of academia is really scheming.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Is that any worse than. I mean, that. That's nothing compared to what Fauci did.

[Jack]

Yeah, no.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Fauci endangered the lives of millions of Americans. I had Long Covid twice. You know, I just got a ct, and one of the person that he maybe is the wrong. They had a second opinion. So I think that's from Long Covid. The problem. You have damage. And there's millions of people out there who died, who have all sorts of symptoms, have never gone away. Their bodies are full of spike protein. And this guy knew about it. Knew about it, and he hid it, and he tried to lie about it. And then he tried to destroy people who were trying to open the economy and save people's lives and jobs, like Scott Atlas and Jay Bacharya Bhattacharya. So, yeah, that's what they do. You know, I could go on and on with these stories, and I said to myself, from that moment on, I am never going to be like these people. Never. And for most of the time, I was never like that. I tried. I just had negative exemplars from graduate school, from where I taught, and boy, but it was always on a petty scale, you know what I mean? $300. $300.

[Jack]

Wow. Well, I thought that would have paid, that would have bought something back then.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Oh, that was a lot of money. And I looked at my, the other day I got my Social Security statement in 1984, I made $6,100 farming. So I had just been hired part time. So, God, I thought it was in heaven. $300?

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Not that I was that ethical. I said to my mom, 300 bucks. She said, I will give you $300, but do not cash that check and tear it up and put it in an envelope and just put it away for a rainy day and he may come back and accuse you of checking it.

[Jack]

We're going to take a break. Before we do that, I want to say I know why you called your mother Dudley Do Right because it had to do with the Do Right. But in the future, give her the reference of Sweet Polly Purebred.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Who was Dudley Dwight.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

She was one of the nicest, best people I ever met. The best.

[Jack]

We're going to take a quick break and then a quick final segment on Tech Mafia wives. And we'll get to that after these final important messages. We are back with Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. Final topic. There's this video going around social media X and it was taken on the Blaze.

Earlier in the year, but it's gotten some traction in the last few days. And it's of Nicole Shanahan. She was RFK when RFK was running for president, before he. She was his running mate. She is the ex wife of Google co founder Sergey Brin.

She was a philanthropist, as are many of the spouses of these billionaire class. And she has found Jesus. And she's becoming, I don't know if she's born again Christian, but she's shaking her head at what was. And here's the quote from the clip from the Blaze where she's giving a warning about who these Silicon Valley people are and what motivates them, et cetera. And this is a quote. This was put up by a guy on X named Camus. That's his handle. I don't think many of the Tech Mafia wives realized they were used to set the groundwork for what Klaus Schwab calls the Great Reset. Their money especially was being constrained, conscripted through a network of NGO advisors, Hollywood, Davos and their own companies. A really small group of people completely blind to how their groundwork is being used to enable these great reset policies. That's A quote. Then she turned the knife inward. Quote. These women find their meaning through philanthropic work. I really believed I was helping black communities and indigenous communities rise up. But now the problems have gotten worse. Crime, worse, mental health, worse. The whole model is broken. At the end of the day they always go. But climate change, social justice plus climate change, it gets progressive women 100% of the time, end quote. There's much more. Folks should go look it up. But I think it was cool, heartening to see somebody from that world, that bubble come out of that bubble.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

It is. I admire her, but they do $11 trillion of market capitalization. Silicon Valley can do a lot of damage. So these people have all of these utopian bromides that make them feel like they're going to go to where is it if you're an atheist, heaven on earth after you die? Or they're going to be frozen and brought back to life forever are going to be. Their brain is going to be put into a robotic battle. They have some idea they're going to live forever. But it's not religious in nature, much less Christian. So they do a lot of damage and they feel good about themselves by applying their theoretical kindness to lab rats. That's us, the lab rats. So energy wise, climate change. He says. Well, Glavin Newsom is driven all but I think two refineries out of California. He shut down a nuclear power plant. He hasn't built any of the reservoirs that he promised. With the.

California proposition that allotted 7 billion, I could go on. But everything he touches, he's got the dross touch. He destroys. But my point is this. Two miles from here there's a service station.

And we call it the arena because it's about $0.09 cheaper than anywhere in town. It's kind of out in the country. And I swear when you go there in normal hours there is six to seven cars. So in California, gas has been up to about 550. I fill up at $6 in Palo Alto, but now it's down to about 450. 4 60. But you can buy it there for 440. So if you have a 20 gallon tank, 10 cents, you're saving 2 bucks. Is that right? 10 gallons, 10 cents. You wouldn't believe how poor people are. They're in line and it takes forever. I go there once in a while. People don't use their credit cards. If they have them, they go in and give them $20 where you wait and wait and wait and then they put in and they look at, they think wow, I got five gall. Maybe I'll get another $10. They go back in and give money. That is what they wrought on the coast. That's what she, her former self and all the people did. What they did was create mass poverty through exorbitant energy costs. Go into the local Walmart. August 1st 10th, September 1st, July 5th. We need to pick a day in the summer. 108. It's packed with people there sitting for free air conditioning. And they did that. They all live where it's 65. You know, I have an office in the Hoover Tower. I don't have. I have never turned on the heat and there's no air conditioning. It's year round about up there, about 70, 70 degrees. And that's where they live. And so it's always somebody else. They experiment on high speed rail. You pay for. Sounds good to me. I fly private. Oh, you know, $6. Remember Stephen Chu? We want. What did he say he wanted to get gas up to European levels, which were $9 a gallon. If we could get it up to European levels. Well, does Steven Chu ever have to drive down the 99 for 50 miles to commute? I doubt it. I really sincerely doubt it. So that's the problem with this elite left class. The Democratic Party is not anymore the working class. It's a very, very wealthy and the subsidized poor. And they don't even treat the subsidized pour very well.

[Jack]

Yeah. Well, Victor, we've come to the conclusion and I've got to read a few comments. I didn't do it on the last episode, so I'm going to read four comments that I found on YouTube and every episode of this podcast there are 5, 600, 700 comments. Try to go through them. I cry at some of them, but you know, I get over it. So here, here are some from Donny D9432. I'm so grateful for the generosity of Dr. Hansen with his time and the free education he gives us. He seems to be made of Carnegie Steel with all the things that have happened to him. May God continue to protect him. I really don't know what I would do without him. Carnegie Steel.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I love that.

[Jack]

We've got to get a T shirt made of BDH Carnegie. So.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Well, I had my ninth operation. I said no more, no matter what.

[Jack]

No mas. All right?

[Victor Davis Hanson]

No mas.

[Jack]

We'll get a patron saint to take care of you. Reg Jenkins, PV7XR writes, Victor, you show a lot of mental and physical fortitude, a positive attitude with no complaints.

Dude. I can only imagine the hostility at Stanford and elsewhere. After generations of liberal indoctrination. No longer the canary in the coal mine. You have reached the a significant portion of the American population. To everyone's edification. Stay healthy.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

These letters are so well written.

[Jack]

Well, they're nice. I got two.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

I mean the grammar and the syntax, they're all very well written.

[Jack]

Punchy literate, short. Jill Clark 6076 writes, I've been reading the Gulag Archipelago and it's made me feel overwhelming gratitude to have been born in this country. And four times a week I'm thankful for VDH and his knowledge and wisdom, which he generously shares with us. And the final is at Scott McCurdy, 4445 writes, Victor, you don't cuss. You always purposefully correct politely, which can be maddening. But it makes it all the more fun when you refer to Hakeem.

Hakeem as Ham Jeffries. Go take a hike, pal. A farmer's hard won sense of earth. So all. There are so many more like, say.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Hakeem.

[Jack]

You have a Norm Crosby way about you sometimes. Victor.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yes.

[Jack]

Part of your allure.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

He said, I never make excuses. I did have in one of my operations, my mouth was.

As my wife said at the time, she said, you have four lips now. Two on the top and two on the bottom, but they're not connected.

[Jack]

Someday I will, I will print out that photo.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yeah, I had 170 stitches, but it had, it did do something to my tongue. I did. That one was the weird thing is I had a PET scan for this other problem. And the guy said, is something wrong with your tongue? Because it lit up. And I said, I don't think I have, but I did have substantial damage to it and the inside of my mouth. And he said, oh, have you got it checked? I said, that's your job. You had a PET scan. He goes, well, it lit up. So I said, well, I think it's called inflammation.

[Jack]

Yeah. Or the radiant paint.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yeah, I still think I radiate now. I've had so many scans.

[Jack]

Yeah. Well, Victor, you've been terrific. I want to thank the folks that signed up. For Civil thoughts, go to civilthoughts.com and you'll get my free weekly email newsletter every Friday with 14 recommended readings. It's free, we're not charging. And then Victor's website, the blade of Perseus, VictorHansen.com, do subscribe if you're on XD Hansen, that's Victor's handle. And we thank the good folks at the Victor Davis Hansen Fan Club on Facebook for being such cool fans. So Victor, you've been terrific. Thanks folks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks Daily Signal. We'll be back soon with another episode of Victor Davis Hansen in His Own Words. Bye Bye.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

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