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Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words
Victor Davis Hanson: This Election Season, We’re Reminded Who’s Actually Runs the Democrat Party
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On today’s edition of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words,” Victor and Jack single out the two major takeaways from last week’s New York City mayoral debate: Andrew Cuomo is a shell of his former self and Zohran Mamdani is a "carnivore in sheep’s clothing."
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Victor Davis Hanson
Everybody should ask themselves, why is it that these candidates, whether it's in the New Jersey governor race or the Virginia governor, they all have these things that come out. Oh, I did. I was not allowed to walk with my graduating class. I don't want to discuss it. Oh, I made $7 million in Inc. Why is all this. And why is Don Lemon now saying that he wants black and brown people to get guns, to resist ice? Because they come to their door. And the answer is that the Democratic Party is not the Democratic Party. It's something that has a name only, but it's something completely different. It's got a geriatric old veneer with Schumer and Pelosi, but they are run. They're puppets. They're like a Joe Biden waxing effigy. And they are being run by the squad. And Bernie Sanders, Crazy Elizabeth Warren, Rashida Talib, Jasmine Crockett, Antifa, the pro Palestinian, pro terrorist group. That's what Catherine Levitt said. And she got in big trouble. But she was absolutely right. She didn't say that they were a party of those people. She said that people that were pro Hamas and pro crime or didn't want crime to be punished gravitated to the Democratic Party. And it's true.
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Jack Fowler
Hello, ladies. Hello, gentlemen. Welcome to Victor Davis Hansen in His Own Words. That's the new title of the the new or rebranded, relaunched Victor Davis Hansen Show. And I'm Jack Fowler. I'm the host. I am here to ask the kind of questions you would be asking of the great Victor Davis Hansen, who is the Martin Ely Anderson Senior Fello Fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Wayne and Marcia Buskey Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College, a man with website, the Blade of Perseus, Victor Hansen dot com. And a man who's doing a million things now at the Daily Signal. Victor, you'll notice I'm a complete company man. I have. I'm wearing a Daily Signal. I never wear a hat, but I'm wearing a daily.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I wear my Daily Signal hat, but I. I misplaced it. I think it's in my apartment in.
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Jack Fowler
Oh, back in Palo Alto. Okay.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, I was wearing it around.
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Jack Fowler
All right, well, you're a man of many hats because right behind you there's. There's a helmet even.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yes, Pretty.
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Jack Fowler
Pretty kick heiny looking helmet. Hey, we're recording on Saturday, October 18, the day of the no Kings marches. And with this particular episode will be up on Tuesday, October, October 21st. And again, we are really happy to be at the Daily Signal. We're still doing four shows a week, folks. I do too with Victor. The great Sammy Wink does too with Victor. So what are we going to talk about today, Victor? There were some big political debates. One in Virginia won the New York mayoral race. We have the no Kings marches today. We have George Santos had a sentence commuted by Donald Trump. John Bolton surrendered and pled non guilty of the charges against him for taking classified documents. If we have time, Victor, we should talk about this. Vice signaling on the gop, right. Group chat. Young punks doing some nasty heinied using nasty verbiage. Yeah, and maybe there's another thing or two. But we'll get to all of this when we come back from these important messages.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Right Is still right, even if you stand by yourself.
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Jack Fowler
Mr. Chief justice, may I place the court? This is Hans von Spakovsky, host of the Case in Point podcast which looks at the hottest cases affecting politics, culture and everyone's daily lives. But we talk about them without confusing legal jargon. And we have interesting guests like former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. And we end with reviews of classic Hollywood movies relevant to the topic. Case in Point, the podcast available everywhere you won't want to miss. We are back with the Victor Davis Hansen show. Victor, let's come out of the box here by talking about these two important debates that happened this past week. One was in New York City. That was Mondami, the Democrat. Shouldn't even call him Democrat. Communist Socialists versus Andrew Cuomo, who was running as an independent in that race, and Curtis Levi, who's the Republican candidate. That's one debate. And the second important debate was in Virginia for the Attorney General's race between the incumbent Jason Miyares, the Republican who may still be behind in the polls against the controversial Want to kill your. Want to kill you and want to kill your kids. Democrat nominee Jay Jones. Two important debates. Victor, what's your take on these?
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Victor Davis Hanson
You know, I, I was on Megyn Kelly. We talked about it and what I pointed out and I, I went back and looked at it. That is not the Andrew cuomo of say, 10 or 15 years ago. I remember he was brash, he was incite. I mean, I wasn't a supporter obviously of him, but he could cut to the quick and he looked like a shell of him, of his former self. He took it and he, when he went reply, I mean, Mondami set him up so he would say, well, you don't have any experience. I have experience and I'm ready if there's a natural disaster. And Then he said what Mondami was waiting for another kind of COVID And he said, yeah, and what are you going to do with all your experience? Kill, you know, 12,000 people people or something? So he walked into it. He didn't press. Mondami was a pale imitation in the sense that he was trying to copy Obama smiling. And he's your smiling socialist dash communist. Since he's already said he'd like to seize the means of production. He's a very dangerous person. And more and more comes out about him. More and more comes out about him. He's from a multimillionaire family. He had privileged status in Uganda. His family. His father has written an apology for IDI Amin. He's an endowed professor at Columbia. His mother is a multi million dollar filmmaker with subsidies from every leftist entity imaginable. It was very funny because Cuomo had one good line when he said, you never had a job except working for your mother. That was pretty good. But he, he, he didn't look. Curtis Silva looked very impressive for I first time I'd seen him without his beret. And he's not going to win. And then the question is, if you're a conservative or centrist, would you vote for Andrew Cuomo to stop socialism? That's a hard call. I would. But there's something so creepy about Andrew Cuomo and he seems like he's a broken man after the sexual harassment charges and the COVID and everything.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, Victor, when was governor, he was. He said something to the effect that conservatives, pro lifers, pro family people, they have no right to be New York residents. Something to that effect.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Remember Kathy Hochul doubled down on just go, you know, we don't want you. And you know they're going to get their wish. But there's going to be another debate. He's going to win. He's a, he's a carnivore in sheep's clothing. Mandami. Mandani. And he's going to do what he says he does. One of the things that's very clear in everything he said. I've read pages of what he said, and that is he doesn't like wishy washy people. He said, you have to be unafraid to be a unapologetic socialist. And in that context, he said, seize the means of production. And it's going to be what you're going to also see. Jack, you've probably already seen it because you know more about New York. You're going to see a lot of capitalist Wall Street People who are going do what aristocrats always do with the Bolsheviks in Russia, the, the white Russian aristocracy or the Cuban people who didn't flee or the Maduro Chavez people. There's going to be a cadre of very wealthy people that are going to go to Mandani and they're going to say I'm going to stay but I want in on government contracts and business and I will defend you but you've got to give me an exemption. And I think you're going to see a lot of center left Wall street brokers and big CEOs kind of with a wink and nod meet with him and say that, you know, it's inevitable so we might as well get along and then seek to be carve out areas where he'll give them room or latitude or exemption.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, Victor, you're so right on the history of this back in the Soviet Union and Alexander Solzhenitsyn written about it at great length in the Red Wheel. The complicity of the elites in the.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Takeover of the nation was same thing in Cuba. The elites of the Cuban aristocracy, the young elites, thought they could deal with Castro and he would give them and he did for a couple of years. Same thing with Khomeini, the first round people, the Jewish community knew better. So they fled in 78, 79 when it looked like the Shah was in iffy condition. But when Khomeini came in, a lot of the young socialist students, but especially a lot of the wealthy progressive Westerners went to Kome and they told people we can deal with him. And then he liquidated goats body and he liquid, he drove out Bonnie Sauter. And then the second wave came, as I've said before, to the United States and they were leftists that tried to co opt or contextualize or join Khomeini. And he liquidated them.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, well Victor, when New York was a truly bad scene, when I was growing up in the Bronx in the 60s and 70s and 80s, the fact is people had to, you had to live there. If you were in finance, you know, you could move to the suburbs maybe, but you were still within the solar system. There was still some manufacturing base there, media base, and now we have bandwidth and people can, can go, go far away. It can do their finance business from Tennessee, Florida, Texas, wherever. And you've brought up many times it's easy to destroy. It's so hard to build, but it's so easy to destroy. And the fate of New York, I mean it could be Detroit in short order.
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Victor Davis Hanson
No I think it will be, it will be. Especially if he follows through. Everything he says is not just ridiculous, it's surreal. When he says he's going to give free bus ride. The problem in New York is that you have people that jump turnstiles in the subway and they just jump on the bus so they're not collecting fares and that's why they're in the red. So now he's saying if you jump turnstiles and you don't pay in the bus, it's okay. It was okay all the time that we didn't enforce, but now you can you just get on the bus. Does he remember decarlos Williams who just got on the bus without paying and then killed Irena the immigrant? So everything is going to be free and then he's going to tax, he can't tax unless the legislature and the governor allow him to have an income tax as I understand it. But he can put surcharges on and they may allow him to tax, but he's, he's going to, he's going to spike a crime wave. He really is.
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Jack Fowler
It's funny that the, the, the renaissance of New York came about by stopping people from jumping turnstiles and entering buses. It was the.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Remember he's got a force, yeah, he's got a force multiplier with Alvin Bragg. He lets everybody out who, depending on their race, if they're a person of color and he feels that they're a victimized by insidious white Ray. They don't, you know, they don't pay any price. So. And then you've got Letita James is the New York State Attorney General if she's still in office because like all these people who. Like all these people and we'll get to Bolton. But like all these people who attacked Trump and said he now that he's conducting lawfare, they all have one thing in common. They never say I didn't do it. She never says that's not my signature on that affidavit. I never said that. And Bolton has. I went through everything he said. He said that he was a victim of lawfare. He said that Trump had a vendetta. He said he didn't do, he didn't do anything wrong. He said everything. But I swear under oath I never transmitted information that was branded, confidential or classified to person one and person two and asked them to not disclose the fact that I was transmitting it and that ended up in Iranian hackers hands that were blackmailing me. I never did that. He's never said that.
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Jack Fowler
Look, I not name dropping here. I've served on a couple of boards with, with John Bolton. I like John. So what cares what I like? But watching some video yesterday, something popped up on YouTube and we'll get back to the Virginia debate, the attorney general debate soon enough, folks. But he did say something. He was, he was. This had to do with the raid on Mar a Lago.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah.
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Jack Fowler
And he was talking about, well, we couldn't trust Trump really knew the, the use of while he was in office. While Trump was president. Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
That's horrible what he said. You remember he said he takes anything on his desk, French fries or anything, anything that came across his desk, he just grabbed it, he didn't care. And, and somebody said, well why did he do it? He said because he can. Well, he went in. People are forgetting that. There's an article by the way, in the Atlantic, left wing, Lisa Jobs subsidized very bad magazine I think. But the guy just says, wait a minute. Everybody in the left got to remember that this is not in their view. I think Comey's pretty guilty, but that's another question. But he said this isn't a Comey thing. This is career prosecutors looking at what he did. And he transmitted confidential information. Remember a federal judge who couldn't stop the. It was too late for the book to come out. He warned him and he said, you have done a disservice to the security of your country and you have put yourself in future civil and criminal liability exposure, vulnerability. He said that. And if anybody that says, well, Victor, yeah, you're talking for your toothpoe Trump. It was law. No, the lawfare was Joe Biden. He went on every night for four years after he left and every time there was a Mar lago raid or debaloting or they went to him as a go to person. And his whole frame of reference was two expectations. Number one, Donald Trump is through. He's done for. He said that he's done for. He has no political. He'll be in prison the rest of his life. And number two, that Joe Biden or Kamala Harris would win the election and therefore he was going to be a useful tool, useful idiot for them. He was going to go on TV every night and blast. He was going to be the ultimate archetype of a never Trumper on the expectation that Trump would never come back to power and the Democrats would always shield him from his legal exposure and therefore he could do anything. And the real lawfare is the Biden doj Looked at this, and I think it's pretty clear that he was transmitting classified information to his wife and daughter. And they were even saying things like, shh, don't tell anybody. And he was assured that as long as he was a critic, nothing would happen to him. He fulfilled the bargain. They did. And then the unthinkable happened.
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Jack Fowler
Well, everything's projection in this political world. So transferring data illegally, maybe even criminally, in order to write a book, to be vindictive, and now claiming the prosecution charges against him are an act of vindictiveness. I mean, who was being vindictive here?
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Victor Davis Hanson
He was. His whole point was the moment he went in the White House, he had the expectation that he was going to write the big kiss and tell bombshell book. So he started to record every single thing and to give that narrative authority and authenticity and exceptional information that he was transmitting stuff, allegedly to his wife and daughter with the professed express purpose that it not be disclosed and that they not talk about it. And then as soon as he was going to be fired, he was going to be provocative. Right around the 2020 campaign cycle, he, he said, and I was reading some of them that had been released. Now the diary ends and the book begins. And that's after he got fired. And then he just took all of those notes and he used the documents as footnotes, etc. To the extent that he said that they, he thought they weren't classified. Not the classified stuff. But if it's true that he put in, he transmitted to his wife information about US strategy, how to deal with the Iranian nuclear project or the embargo, or how to deal with Netanyahu versus or whoever the Israeli government was, then it is, it is espionage and it reifies what the judge said. You put the security of the United States in danger and that shows you that's a lesson. We should all remember these people who hate Trump so much because that in their excess, they said and did things that were so extraordinary to show everybody how much they hated Trump, they had, they had lost all reasons. And when you look at these people on the scene, they've all destroyed their careers. Bolton, self employed, he didn't have to do that. He could have said Donald Trump. And I disagree. I'm a more traditional activist interventionist and he has a different notion of deterrence. But I'm very honored because I have never received an appointment because the Democratic Senate refused to confirm me in any nomination. And the only chance I've had to serve in high appointed government office was during the George W. Bush administration night because of a recess appointment for a year that did not require Senate confirmation. Donald Trump put me as National Security Advisor for the express reason that you did not have to be confirmed for that appointment. And I owe him everything. But we disagree, and I'm going to bow out. That's all he had to do, but he couldn't. And he became, you know, same thing with Bill Kristol, Max Boot, all of them. All they had to say was, I had a lifelong life of conservative value, kind of like Brett Stevens, whom I don't agree with, but that's what he pretty much did. And then at some point, he said, this is going nowhere. He's better than the alternative. But they can't do that. And then they, you know, they had all these people, these clips of attacking Trump this week. And I, I said to myself, there's Colbert. He's. He's destroyed his career. He's going to go off the air. There's Kimmel, he's saying stuff about Trump. He's going to go off the air. He's destroyed his career. He says he's going to last, but his views have gone down below the little blimp he got. There's that. What was her name? Griffith or something that held the cat. She's back. I said, he destroyed your career. They had Laurie, Rosie o', Donnell, you're in Ireland, you're destroyed. Almost every one of these people, celebrities, politicians that went after Trump and said that he was Satan incarnate. And look at all the Senate. Remember Ben Sasse and the guy from Tennessee, Bob Corker, all of them, Paul Ryan, all of them, Mitt Romney, they just couldn't express a disagreement in a polite way and say, we differ, but we'll try to work with. And instead, they imploded.
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Jack Fowler
Well, I think hubris was the guiding motivation.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Hubris brings what they say is UVAs brings ATE or self destruction, which leads to nemesis or divine retribution.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, karma, here we go.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, we're going to. What comes around, goes around. Yeah.
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Jack Fowler
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, that was an utter bloodbath. It really was. If you were objective and, and I'm, I'm objective. And I'm trying to tell you, I thought Mondame, whom I, I just think is unimaginable as a mayor, the damage you do, he, he did beat Andrew Cuomo. I don't know. So I might have, but he was so swarmy. But in this one, I hate this now when somebody says, I take full responsibility. I've been account. How did he ever, how was he ever accountable? He says, well, these are things that I regret. I've been held accountable. I take full. No, you haven't. You haven't done anything.
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Jack Fowler
Nothing.
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Victor Davis Hanson
The only reason you're saying this is when our former colleagues at National Review broke the story. At first you said it was a right wing Trumpian news organization, National Review. Has he read National Review? It was the most. Sorry, Jack, but you know, at that time, it was never pro Trump. And so he tried to wiggle out of it, and then he couldn't. And then as the present attorney Mayer has said, well, wait a minute. These children were not unknown to you. They were on the floor of the legislature visiting their father. And you saw them, you talked to them, you knew them, you knew their faces, and yet you could tweet out and double down when asked to withdraw. Do you really mean that? Yes. I want to see them dead. I want to see them dead in their mother's arms and you're the Attorney general. And then he had a really devastating second account, you know, and we talked about that with Sammy. He didn't drive 80, 90, 100. I think some of us listening might have driven in their life one or two times 80 miles an hour. Come on, you guys are listening. Maybe one or two of you, just 85. I will guarantee that none of our law abiding, patriotic listeners have ever driven 100 miles an hour. I will guarantee they haven't even imagined what 110 is like. I don't think they've ever have a car. I don't. Maybe this Tesla, 116 miles an hour. You imagine the people who would have been killed. And then when he was caught, he was 500 or 1,000 hours of community service and he served for his own pac, related political organization, nonprofit, to further his own political ambitions. And there were three, as the Attorney General said, there were three or four people who were up the same period as you and they all got stiffer Stins fines and you got nothing because you were a politician. So he, he demolished them. And I looked at, I think everybody should remember that when you look at the real clear politics, who are wonderful people, but. And they're very objective. So they put every poll there, 10 or 12 polls, and then they have an average. If you look at, say today, Trump will be down by five points or the Republicans will be down by two. But there are polls, half of them, whose sole purpose is to, as we saw with the Des Moines Register, who was off by 15 points, or the NPR poll the night of the 2024 election that said Kamala Harris was going to win by four beyond the margin of error. Their sole purpose is to warp averages of polls and to create momentum and fundraising for the left. So what I always suggest is there were three or four polls, the Rasmussen poll, the Trafalgar poll, and insider Advantage. I know they're conservative, but they were, they had the best record in 2020 and 2024. If you look at those polls, Donald Trump is doing pretty well and the Republicans are doing pretty well. And I don't know what it is about the Republicans, but there's a guy in Maine who's completely crazy and brags running for Senate against the incumbent.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, his name is Graham Platner.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yes. Oyster man.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Marine veteran. Decorated Marine veteran. Nice guy. But he's on record that he's a communist. And whites, rural whites, are racist people. And, and Susan Collins, I think, is going to win. I hope she does. And she's a good senator. She's not as conservative as I am, but in Maine, she's conservative enough to win. And that's the vote in the Senate. And that's what everybody should keep.
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Jack Fowler
You know what this group Platner wrote? If people, quote, expect to fight fascism without a good semi automatic rifle, they ought to do some reading of history. And then in another, this, that was a deleted. I assume it was a old Twitter post. And another one he wrote, an armed working class is a requirement for economic justice. The, the, the go to knee jerk of, of the Democrat ascendant Democrat party of violence, death maiming just keeps marching on. Victor.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah. And everybody should ask themselves, why is it that these candidates, whether it's in the New Jersey governor race or the Virginia governor, they all have these things that come out, oh, I was not allowed to walk with my graduating class. I don't want to discuss it. Oh, I made $7 million in income. What, what, why is all this. And why is Don Lemon now saying that he wants black and brown people to get guns to resist ice? Because they come to their door. ICE does not go into people's citizen citizens and break down the door. They do it on warrants that they have defied deportation orders or they have a criminal history. So he wants to. He's basically calling for a gunfight. And the answer is that the Democratic Party is not the Democratic Party. It's something that has a name only, but it's something completely different. It's got a geriatric old veneer with Schumer and Pelosi, but they are run. They're puppets. They're like a Joe Biden waxing effigy. And they are being run by the squad. And Bernie Sanders. Crazy. Elizabeth Warren, Rashida Talib, Jasmine Crockett Antifa, the pro Palestinian, pro terrorist group. That's what Catherine Levitt said. And she got in big trouble. But she was absolutely right. She didn't say that they were a party of those people. She said that people that were pro Hamas and pro crime or didn't want crime to be punished gravitated to the Democratic Party. And it's true. So they're going to have problems getting candidates because the candidates from this new generation have all had long records. That's why you can find Letitia James saying crazy things. That's why you can find. That's why you find Jasmine Crockett's. They have a record and they can't hide it. And most Americans don't want it. So why is, why, why is this happening. Why are all these people hijacking the Democratic Party? And I think the answer is they took it left with Obama. Obama is, as in many things, he's the font or the origin of a lot of bad things in this country. And he hijacked the Democratic Party and he racialized it and was obsessed with race until he started all of this about Michelle. Never been proud of my country until Barack. They raised the bar on me. Downright mean country apology tour. Trayvon looks like the son I never had. The police always do this, all of that stuff. And then all of the executive orders. And Eric Holder unleashed. The race was becoming incidental, it really was. We had a lot of progress. And he revived it under diversity. And he said 30% of the population, not 12 that were black, but 30% that were not white. Mandami the millionaire or Oprah the millionaire, or Jasmine Crockett the prep school dilettante. They're all victims because of the race. And people didn't want that. And so when they voted for Trump twice, especially the second time, the Democratic Party said, well, we went left, and now we don't have the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the White House. Now we're on the 30% end of all of these issues, whether it's transgendered males in sports or it's defund the police, or it's $950. Crimes are not theft is not a crime, or the Afghan pull out. We're just on the wrong side. And then they said, but this can't be true. We control NPR, we control CBS, ABC. We control Harvard, Yale, Stanford. We control K12 teachers unions, we control some professional sports. We even control the halftime shows at the Super Bowl. We have all the cultural levers, and we still don't do it. And they said, well, we open the borders. We got 50 million people that were not born in the United States. That's the highest in history. And that hasn't worked. And so they're very frustrated. And then Donald Trump comes along and he basically says to the country, I'm sorry, you people, I am not George H.W. bush. I'm not George W. Bush. I'm not Bob Dole, I'm not John McCain. I'm not Mitt Romney. I'm not going to slow down the progressive march to the institutions. I am a genuine counter revolutionary. I'm going to undo in four years the damage they did in 50. And you won't believe what I'm going to do. And so he got that cabinet of loyalists, and nothing is Too small. Not the Smithsonian, not the Kennedy center, not architecture, not statue, top lane, not K12. He wants to undo it all in four years. Yeah. And we've never seen anything like it. It's a true counter revolution and it's.
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Jack Fowler
It'S gonna need, gonna need more than three years left, but we'll see what, what happens.
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Victor Davis Hanson
But it's on the razor's edge. It's very hard to do when you have all of these institutions and you've had the left and that. This is a long, windy explanation of why these people are so crazy. They're basically saying, well, we can lose an election now with Obama. We get Obama. But I know we lost with Kerry and we lost with Gore and we lost with Hillary, but it didn't really matter because we were always moving the country leftward and the Republicans were pathetic. McCain, Romney, they didn't know what we were doing. This guy, he closed the border. This guy, he's taking on Harvard and Yale and Stanford where we indoctrinate this guy. He's going to eliminate the Department of Education. This guy, he's not going to let us gouge the government 50%. This guy, he's getting rid of DEI. This guy's got 50,000 new recruits in the middle. That's why they're so insane.
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Jack Fowler
Victor, let's throw Santos out there first. Yesterday, Donald Trump, he thought he was being treated unfairly in prison, where he's been for several months. The former New York. I'm sorry, weirdo Congressman, but your thoughts about Donald Trump's commuting his sentence?
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, he's not an empathetic character. Even Blago had a little bit more Blago. You could make the argument was railroad by the Jesse Jackson, Obama, Chicago connection. But Santos has lied and he's broken the law. I don't know if you're going to pardon him, why not wait till you go out of office and let him, you know, fill out part of a sentence or maybe commute it and do something. But it's not a good look to let him off like that, I think. I don't know what you feel about Jack. We haven't discussed it, but.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, well, that's, it just is on. It's unappealing. And I would say let him, if you're gonna. I agree with you. Let him roast a little while longer. I mean, he did.
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Victor Davis Hanson
He was convicted.
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Jack Fowler
Rightly.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah. And, and he, and he was, he was convicted. And I would have not, I wouldn't have commuted that sentence or let him.
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Jack Fowler
Out well, also troubling on the right here, Victor, and I'm going to read this a little bit from the, this New York Post column 6. Sick, sick. Young Republican group chat is part of the rights new quote, vice signaling, end quote bonding ritual. So here's how this story begins. I'll get through it quickly. Vice signaling is the new virtue signaling. It was revealed this week that in a private group chat, leaders of young Republican groups, including the then chair and vice chair of the New York organization, as well as the vice chair from Kansas, called black people monkeys, praised Hitler, discussed raping their enemies and driving them to suicide. It's all apparently supposed to be funny. You guys are in on the joke, right? And meant to prove loyalty. If you're one of us, they're implying you'd never rat. But it's abhorrent and fits right into a concerning mounting trend on the right. Vice signaling is a backlash response to the left smug virtue signaling. The performative and exclusionary trend of going to fashionable protests using overly genuflecting lingo, person of color, systematic oppression, birthing person, blah blah, and shaming everyone to the right of the far left. Victor, I find this troubling. I think these guys should be called out and this should not be tolerated.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, they should. They should be ostracized. Absolutely. They don't, they don't understand because maybe they're not old enough. But if you're upset about affirmative action after 60 years or DEI, that doesn't, that doesn't mean that A, all black people disagree with you and B, it doesn't mean that there wasn't institutionalized racism and segregation in the south and insidious bias probably in places in the North. And it doesn't mean that there wasn't great people in the civil rights movement and the tragedy of DEI and affirmative action, as Shelby Steele or Tom Sowell or Walter Williams or Clarence Thomas has pointed out, was that there were so many talented black people who did not want white liberals guilt and did not want these Great Society programs because they had seen what they had done to other people and created dependencies. And as black people were treated terribly, they had developed a self, a sense of survival and they were independent and entrepreneurial and their in terms of abortion and, and illegitimacy and divorce, they weren't that much different statistically from the general population. And so that argument is against affirmative action and against di is pro black. It really is. And I think I've said before where I work, I, I work with 50 or 60 fellows and I think they're all very bright. But the two brightest I've ever met of all of them are Shelby Steele and Tom Soul. I, I admire Kyron Skinner, she's up there too. And our director is very bright, of course, Condoleezza Rice. But when you meet somebody like Tom Skoll who grew up in Jim Crow, Condoleezza Rice did too as a young girl. And then they do so well, you can see they do so well because their attitude was I'm very suspicious of dependency and white liberal co opting. And you can see it also when Obama says to black males, you don't know what's good for you, you might vote against. Or he said the other day about Hispanic men, remember he said I understand that some of these men will do the wrong. They're going to vote for unemployment. Why wouldn't they? Barack worry about gas and inflation. They're not your, they're your pawns. They're independent, smart, autonomous people and they want to be treated that way. And so what the black movement was at some time and as I said, I heard Martin Luther King speak and it was all about being independent and being very careful. And he blasted white moderates. He said they're not enough. I don't know if he was correct in his criticism, but there was this sense that you had to be very careful about guilty white liberals lavishing entitlements on you. Now it's been $25 trillion so and the result is reparations and all these crazy things. But these people that said all this stuff seem oblivious to that. And they don't, when they call somebody a monkey or something, they don't understand that if you have an equal playing field and in the black community, if it culturally takes the same approach as Asians and other immigrant groups, they don't have an adversarial relationship. They just say to themselves we're in a competitive society and we're newcomers or we came and we're not, we're not the majority, we're going to be better than the. And a lot of people, black people have argued and have done that. So just to blast everybody like that is, is crazy. And it brings up the other, you know, the anti Semitism is connected. It used to be when I was growing up, I think I mentioned that if I went follow my grandfather and I went to, I used to tag along with him and irrigate and all these farmers were congregate, you know, congregate at a big standpipe to talk about the communal water and some Guy, you know, I sent my plums back to New York and some Jew, he Jewed me. That was a term he used. And I'd always say to my grandfather, what does that mean? He said, well, some people. He was very liberal guy in his thinking. He said, some people blame things on particular scapegoats. And then I would go over and talk to a packer I knew and I, I worked for him for a year. I won't mention his name. And I'd say, what's the. I was. My job was to palletize 28 pound boxes and put straps on a strapping machine and then put the label. And he would say, I want you to label these peaches a different variety than they are. And I'd say, why? I'm not going to do that. And he said, you want to get fired? And I said, well, I can't do that. And he said, well, the Jews in New York don't like this. Now, you know, I heard that all the time, but it was always from right wing people and then the left, because I don't know. I don't know. I can get into. I know, but I don't have time to do it. But partly out of the, the Israeli Palestinian and all that stuff, immigration and the idea that Jews were white oppressor, colonial settler, anyway, that. That was the monopoly on the left. But now you start to see on the fringes, it's not nearly as much as the left, but you start to see it come back on the right, anti Semitism. And you've got to call it out. You really do. And it's. It's. When Mandami says, a good example on the left, he said the other day, would you disarm Hamas? Martha McCallum asked that he would. He said, I can't answer because I don't want to get into Middle east affairs. You do want to get in. You do all the time. On dami, you said that you wanted to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu if he came to New York. Don't lie to us. So if we're going to say all that or we're going to say that these World War II revisionists who call Churchill a terrorist or say the Holocaust was problematic, it may not have happened, or it was accidental or was prisoners were starved, then you've got to be. You've got to call it out. Call them out, because ahistorical. And that's what's very important to the MAGA movement, that it, that it does that. And Candace Owens and you know I said before that Tucker has done me so many favors, but I think it was one of the most unwise things I can imagine that he has had on that show. And by the way, I don't believe in canceling that. Jack, you don't either. I don't believe that you should say Candace Owens can't broadcast or you can boycott. You can do any. I don't like counseling left or right. Just let him go and then oppose them. And so my argument is not people on the right should cancel people. They should. If they want to have a little Republican anti semi Semite group, that's their business. But just say, say you people don't represent us. You're disgusting. Get out of here. We don't want you in our organization. But if you want to go have some stupid, crazy, anti Semitic neo, not go ahead and do it, but just keep us out of it. Don't use our name. And you're not going that ostracism boycott, that's fine if you want. And let the in the marketplace of ideas defeat that idea. And that's why everybody has to get a stand up and say something.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, the truth will set you free. And our enemies, ideological enemies, they're the ones who would not call out J. Jones back on him, right?
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Victor Davis Hanson
No. Who has no. It's very funny. They said they didn't call him out and then they thought they were going to run an ad against Winsome Sears and say winsome, are you going to call them out in like one nanosecond? She said, of course I am. Everybody called him out. The only one I had a little problem with, I like him a lot was J.D. vance. And he was saying they were taking this too much and exaggerating. He said it was a thousand. What J. Jones said was a thousand times worse. I think he said something like that. And he's right, it was. But you don't want to make comparisons with that. You just say the left can do whatever they want. We expect this of them. But people on our side do not do that. So yes, Jay Jones is probably a lot worse. But these people, we've got to call them out because that's our responsibility and that's all you have to do.
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Jack Fowler
Well, we're going to stick a little with anti Semitism, but first I want to remind our listeners we have an inform because we have a lot of new listeners, a lot of new viewers of that. Victor has a website, the Blade of Perseus. The address is victorhansen.com what you. You should go there be regularly because everything Victor writes you'll find there. He writes a weekly essay for American Greatness weekly syndicated column. You'll find the archives of these podcasts, links to Victor's many books. I don't know how many written Victor's written 20 something books. He's got another one coming out in a few months. And then there are Ultra articles. Twice a week Victor writes an exclusive piece for the Blade of Perseus and once a week he does an exclusive video and it's 650amonth to subscribe or cheaper. Discounted full year $65 the Blade of Perseus VictorHanson.com Victor the Daily Signals Virginia Allen wrote a book Peace Israeli Fans Banned from Sports Game in UK and here's how the story begins Authorities in the UK have banned Israeli fans from attending a forthcoming soccer match in England over security risks. Following a thorough assessment, we have classified the Upcoming Aston Villa vs Maccabi Tel Aviv fixture fixture as high risk. West Midlands police said in a statement Thursday as the department expressed support for a decision to, quote, prohibit any prohibit away supporters from attending the game. A UK body responsible for issuing safety certificates for games, known as the Safety Advisor Group, made the decision but is now being asked to reconsider. Quote, I am shocked to my core that this outrageous decision to ban me, my family and my friends from attending an Aston Villa game in the UK says former hostage Emily Damari. That's in a post on X. Victor the the flagrant anti Semitism of the British governments. You know it's incredible.
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Victor Davis Hanson
We should Trump should talk to Stormer about that and say if you're going to, you have gone well beyond the eu, you've gone well beyond continental Europe and your anti Semitism. What do you what are you going to do to identify them? I are Trump should call Sturmer up and said so you don't want these people to come, these so called Jews to root for Israel. I got a good idea. Why don't you have a little yellow star you put on their jacket and then you would know who they are. Is that what you're going to do? Because you're in the, you're in a good tradition that goes back to about 1935 in Germany and it's insidious and it's so bad because although there's only about 8 or 9% Muslims in the UK, in these big cities it's up to 15 or 16 like it is in Germany and soon to be in France and places and they're scared stiff did they really, really, really think that if you look at all the violence that's gone on that Jewish British subjects commit violence to the same degree as Muslims do? Or are they trying to say we are terrified of our Muslim populations and we can't handle them and we're afraid that we'll be called racist or something. So we know that Jews are law abiding, they're quiet, they don't object. So we're going to go out, we're going to follow the path of least resistance and we're going to go after Jews and just don't come. If you don't come, there will be no violence. And then some person that's a first grader might say to them, well, don't you think that was the point? That the Islamic population that's unassimilated, unacculturated, non integrated is basically threatening to have a big brawl and that you are afraid of them and therefore they can affect their segregated agenda without doing anything? Because you will cave. Margaret Thatcher would have said if I have to bring out the British army, I will to protect everybody. To have the right to go to a sporting event. This is not 1938 in Alabama, you know what I mean?
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Jack Fowler
The utter fear of the British governing class and the bureaucracy and it seems to be, I don't know are police departments, how are they that politicized? But not only for beyond this banning Jews attending the soccer game. But we've talked about this last couple of shows. But the arrests of people for simple critical posts or for standing somewhere in public with a flag or arresting back on Jews arresting a Jew near a Palestinian pro Palestinian protest somewhere in London because he was wearing a yarmulke. This is insane. Insane. I, I feel Victor, they must, they must fear deeply the when it all, when the truth all comes out about their complicity and weakness for these grooming gangs that stretch back over, well, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. This is, this is a, I don't understand it.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I don't know. When I was on Megyn Kelly's Yesterday, she made a good point in the debate between Cuomo and Mandami, the back and forth, he said, you haven't, you can't name the name of any mosque and you don't, you haven't been to them. And then instead of saying, don't tell me where I've been. Whether you like it or not, this was a Christian, Judeo, Christian founded country and they have a dominant history code. Doesn't mean we censor, oppress other religious Beliefs, but in the great thing, in the great realm of things, Islam has not been a part of the American experience in the way that Judeo Christian have you been to. And then say, he should have said, how many cathedrals have you been to? What can you name the a Church of Christ or a Presbyterian church that you've been to? But he didn't. Instead he said, well, I did all this stuff for Muslims and I'm, and it was just apologetics and appeasement. And I don't get it. I, I, I guess it's deep down there's two reasons. Maybe it's anti Semitism and maybe it's fear of terrorism after 9, 11, I don't know. But this country and Europe and Britain in particular, just can't say this country is founded on particular principles of tolerance. And your countries in the Middle east are not. Your countries are one religion states. And we don't do that here. But that doesn't mean that we sell out our Christian traditions. We don't, we don't enforce worship. We allow all religions, but that does not mean we're going to apologize for Christianity. And you know, when Mandami said to get back out, at one point they asked him, well, why are you opposed to Israel? You're not Jews. He said, no, I'm not opposed to Jews, I'm just opposed to Israel because it's a Jewish state, a national religion. I'm thinking, are you insane? Do you really believe that 2 million Arab Muslims inside Israel are treated worse than Christians would be in Lebanon or Syria or on the west bank or Gaza? Can you imagine if a bunch of evangelical Israelis went over to the west bank or Gaza and say, we want to have a Church of Christ here, right? And they wouldn't be alive. So you have no problem, Mandami, with all of these Arab Muslim states where there is a state religion, Go to Constantinople, Istanbul. Sorry, Victor, you're in the wrong century, but I did that intentionally. Go there and then see all the closed Armenian, unorthodox Greek churches and what they're doing to Santa Sophia, Hagia Sophia, the oldest cathedral in Christendom's history. And so there are one state religions and they're in the Islamic world. They're not. And yes, Israel's dominant thematic religion is Judaism, but they treat minority worshipers much better than the Islamic world. And Mandami knows that.
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Jack Fowler
I have to plug myself, Victor. By the way, Jack Fowler, I'm the senior fellow at the center for Civil Society. Go to that website, click on events coming up November 5th and 6th in Philadelphia. We're having a conference on America 250 and how our founding impacted the civil society and the importance of civil society. I think you want to attend. If you live in the Philly metro, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware area.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Check it out.
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Jack Fowler
So that's centerforcivilsociety.org and I write civil Thoughts every week for the center. And Civil Thoughts comes out on a Friday. It's a email. It's got 14 recommended readings. You're going to like it. We don't charge, we don't sell your name. Civilthoughts.com Go there, sign up. Thank you kindly. Okay, Victor. Hey, no kings. I, we just our enemies and I do believe we have enemies. I think you and I have enemies and so do many of our listeners. The left, they don't have any leaders. I don't know what the they have this no king's madness. What are they left to do? Performative art.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Anyway, your thoughts on what does it mean? I mean does it mean that Donald Trump was an elect? Are they saying that the 2024 was not an election? Are they election denialists? Stacey Abrams or something? He was elected. He was elected. Where did he get the idea of executive orders predominate? I think there was somebody called Barack Obama who said I have a phone and I have a pen and he started issuing them like crazy, as did Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. So what is it? What is kingly, is it his gold, you know, veneers he's putting in the Oval Office or what? I mean, you could have a demonstration that said no dictators. We don't, we don't raid people's houses and go through their underwear drawer. We don't debunk people that we disagree with. We don't try to remove candidates off the ballot in 25 states. We don't find somebody $500 million because he, the attorney general, promises to take Trump Tower. We don't go after sick federal prosecutors on somebody. We don't take a two bit Georgia prosecutor and try to destroy a candidate who's going to run for president. We don't do these things. We don't weaponize the FBI. We don't have James Comey trying to pedal a Russian collusion hoax. We don't take 51 former intelligence authorities and try to lie to the American people on the evo debate and say that a laptop that is genuinely Hunter Biden's product of Russian intelligence services. We don't do anything. We don't take the FBI and work with Twitter and the old Twitter and FBI to censor news. We don't do that. We don't have the head of the FBI, James Comey, and the head of the CIA, John Brennan, the head of the nsa, James Clappard, lie under oath, under oath to Congress. We don't do that. That would be part of a king. So what, what did he do that says he's a king? Does he. When he gets an executive order and he's in the lower court, which are basically Biden appointees and they stay it, does he say, I'm not going to obey that? He might say it. But does he ever do it? No, he follows it until it goes to a circuit court, and then if it's ruled against, he waits the Supreme Court. So what they're basically saying is we have no political power. We don't have messages that the majority of Americans agree with. And our stealthy effort to change the political dynamic so people would embrace a message they don't want to embrace failed. Because although we did get 55 million people to immigrate to the United States, he stopped our latest project of 10 million illegal. He stopped it. And he also stopped our defund the police and the Joel Soros new critical legal theory stuff. And looks like he stopped the politicalization of the Pentagon. And it looks like he's thrown out dei and it looks like our bastion of power in the university, he's questioning. So he's a king. He's a king. He did all that. He's a king. And so they can't define their terms. And, you know, I think about the left is every time they make a charge, he's a fascist. Mark Milley, he's a fascist. John Kelly, he's among the most dangerous. Just tell me, tell me what. He's a fascist. Go through and list Mark Milley, General Milley. He's a fascist. Okay, what did he do? Did he call secretly his Chinese counterpart and say disobey what Mark Milley says? Just, did he do that? What did he do? And they don't, they never define their terms, terms. John Bolton didn't define his terms when he called Trump's all these names. So I, I don't know. I guess there's people going to go out in the street and they're angry because they lost the election. They don't have political power, they don't have the issues. And their stealthy means of taking over the institutions and changing the demography hasn't worked. Or worse yet, I went out yes, Last night to dinner with my wife Jack and to a group that was some Hispanic highway patrolman, law enforcement. Not all of them were, but we had a group dinner and half the people there were Mexican American. I've known. And we were talking about the Hispanic vote and how it's radically changed, especially for males over the age of 40. And I was just saying, I was kidding, that they had to be very careful because the left will stop all immigration legal or anything from south, anything south of the border if they find out they're going to be Republican. Yeah, it's true. As they did with Europeans. That was Ted Kennedy's whole point. In 65, he thought, you know what? We got too many of these hungry Hungarian freedom fighters that are fleeing communism and we got too many of these Germans who are fleeing East Germany and too many of these Poles that are coming over here and they're right wing immigrants. Too many people from Greece, the Greek civil wars. And we don't like these leftists. So therefore no more Europeans. We want poor people who grew up in Marxist environments. But if that changes, then I don't know what the left will do. Go to Africa or go to some place in the world where they have a genuine supply of leftists. But I think it's going to be very interesting to see what the Hispanic vote will be. And if it is 4949 like it may have been in the last election with 55% of the Hispanic males voting Republican, they will, they will be the most starch opponents of immigration there is.
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Jack Fowler
Well, you know, talking about close things, Victor, and let's end this with the census story. I mentioned earlier. The Washington Times has an editorial out yesterday that the census, the 2020 census ended up giving Democrats six undeserved seats. So it turns out that the six states were under counted and eight were over counted. And I'll just read this one paragraph. So the Heritage foundation evaluated the impact of these errors and found the biggest winners in order were New York, Minnesota, Ohio, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Utah, Delaware and Rhode Island. The biggest losers were Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Illinois, Arkansas and Mississippi. Had the tally been performed honestly, the Sunshine State would have picked up two additional representatives and the Lone Star State would have added another likely Republican to its delegation. On the Democrat side, Colorado retained a district it should have lost, while Minnesota and Rhode island each profited by one seat. Overall, Democrats gained six House seats and six votes in the Electoral College. That's really troubling.
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Victor Davis Hanson
We know they count people as residents, not citizens. We know that. And I should modify that. We know they count residents as we people here legally or illegally who are not US Citizens as residents for purposes of the census. In blue states, that qualifier, if it's a red state like Texas, they don't make any effort to go to areas where there might be conservative Hispanic groups. And this is what, this opens a larger issue because people are always saying, well, Donald Trump fired the guy in charge of the unemployment statistics or Donald Trump is firing people in the eye. No, he's trying to tell people that the institutions have been weaponized. The census takers, the irs, the lowest learners there, and it's time to clean it out and get new people. And that's what he's doing. They, they thought they were cute. The left by weaponizing the these, the Census, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Department of labor bureaucrats, the irs. That's what they did, only they didn't really talk about it. And when you. It's always easier to destroy an institution like the border or a cab than it is to restore. That's the dirty work that gets the bad publicity. Giving stuff away or having no judgment or tolerating anything is makes you very popular. But saying we're going to have standards or merit or we're going to follow the law is very unpopular. You know all those ICE protesters. And by the way, Jack, I have made a promise to a couple who said they were never listening, so they're probably not listening, that I won't use the we don't have profanity on this Right. Podcast.
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Jack Fowler
Are you going to mention a woman's name right now?
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah. The K A R. Yeah. Asterisk in. I won't use. But when I looked at all of these protests in Chicago lately and Portland and stuff the K A R attach asterisk in group, it was very funny because they were the one protesting and I didn't see any of them down at the border is what I'm trying to say. In other words, when 10,000 people came across with known criminals. Known criminals, and people were going to come up here and swarm er rooms so American citizens wouldn't have access, they didn't say a word. So it's very easy to do that. But it's very hard to find all those people and say, please go back to where you came from and try it again legally, if you meet the criteria, if you want to. But they had these signs, no borders. No borders. In other words, they were saying to us, we don't want any borders. That's the left's attitude. We just want an open continent for anybody to come in because you know, we're always going to live in Presidio Heights or we're going to live in Atherton or we're going to live in Malibu and we have means.
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Jack Fowler
Well, why should your, that's the point. Why should your front door be a border? No border there either. You know, let them.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Like I said, I, I have to go to Pepperdine next week for a little bit. But one of the weirdest things in my life when I gone down there for five or six years, I wanted to walk on the beach. And you park and by law you have to have access to the beach. And These homes are $20 million up and they're all left wing celebrities. But what they do is when they have that little, I don't know if they still do it, but they plant bougainvillas and things with these huge thorns so that, yeah, yeah, it's hard to find out where they are. And if you go through, you're going to get scratched or they have dogs at bark. These are left wing people. A lot of them have walls. I thought, wow, why do you want a wall? It's the same old thing. When the two columns that I've ever written on my life that I got the most hatred was one saying that the 280 from Atherton to South San Francisco along the Crystal Springs Reservoir, it was empty for 50 miles to the coast. Why there were people living in Winnebago's in Redwood City and five families to a house at the cost a million dollars for, I don't know, 1200 square feet. So why don't you make what the left wants, high density apartments along 280, extend the light rail up there and allow underprivileged and underrepresented communities to live along that, that strip where you have water, you have mass transit, you have an existing six lane highway. And a guy showed up in San Francisco and was physically had to be ejected. He wanted to fight me about that. And he had a Woodside estate. And the second one was when I said during the Obama administration, we have a million dorm rooms in the United States and it's summer and the kids are not there and we have no place and Obama's making cages. So why don't we have Stanford, Yale, Princeton, Vanderbilt. Just let the illegals stay in the dorms, have a few students stay over, pay them well, tutor them, have the law schools offer legal representation for all their cases. You have the university med center to offer complete health Checkups and cancer. Everything you need for that and then tutoring, everything would be there. All the people who wanted open borders would have a wonderful chance. And I got so much hatred.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, I tried.
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Victor Davis Hanson
They hate that. They hate to be, you know, put.
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Jack Fowler
Your money where your mouth is. Right. It's like the.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Martha, didn't we always go back to those. I saw that box where some K a R asterisk in. I'm sorry, just tease. I'm never going to use the word again, I promise. But she had a cardboard box with a puff jacket and she had all this stuff and she walked in and put it in this sort of illegal alien depot they had created. Secondhand, Secondhand. And she was smiling, just Trump thing and Desantis and all this. And this bus pulled up, you know, I think a few hours later, this big bus headed toward your area and New York. And they were so delighted to see that they had called the bus in, right. But they'd given a puff jacket to some poor guy from Mexico.
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Jack Fowler
Kind of similar when Karina happened. This doesn't have to do with legals, but with New Orleans depopulating, I. I got in touch with. And he actually communicated with the then bishop who was head of the United States Catholic Conference, saying, you got. We got all these empty seminaries, you know, because no one's going to seminary anymore. You got all this real estate rooms. I think this would be a great Christian opportunity to take care of these poor people who have been flooded out of their homes. We can't do that. So anyway, I didn't think I was.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Going to get a yes, no, we can't do that. But I can tell you that within a mile of where I live this, there is an area. I won't be too specific with the avenue where it was a model of what you would call agrarianism of the 1960s. Tidy small little farmhouses, ethnically diverse. Armenian American, Greek American, Japanese American, Punjabi American, Mexican American. All stable houses, 1200 square feet clean little garages with one car pickup. 40 to 60 acre checkerboard of farms. Really stable. Nobody. And now they're all gone. And each one of those little houses is wrecked, basically. And there are probably 40 to 50 people living there and all illegally. Everything about sewage water, plumbing is legally Winnebago's on blocks, traders on blocks, shacks. And I don't see anybody on the left upset about it. Why would they not say this is against California zoning, California health codes, California building codes. And we can help out. We can bring these people to Stanford university in the summer and allow them to get a reboot. We can give them health checks, we can give them legal advice, we can give them tutorial. We all instead of having all these students go out in yell pro Hamas would be much better to channel that energy positively. They can adopt each an illegal alien and help them monitor them. We're going to have a website. Why don't they do that?
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Jack Fowler
Because hell hasn't frozen over yet, that's why.
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Victor Davis Hanson
So.
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Jack Fowler
All right, Victor, we're at the end here. But I have I'm going to read four comments. Three are similar and one's different. A couple of times in recent podcasts have mentioned Colossus and Ralph v. Ruban Jr. 7021 wrote he gave us the actual quote from William Shakespeare.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Is it. Is it Act 2?
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Jack Fowler
Oh, I don't know. It's just the quote. It could be but it says why man? Why man? He doth bestride the narrow world like a Colossus. And we petty men walk unto under his huge legs and peep about to find ourselves dishonorable graves. Yeah, so that is say the part about graves. Yeah, well it's.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I think he says he walks on wider ways to the sentence before it. I don't know that because I had to read it in high school about three times.
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Jack Fowler
I will, I'll go do some homework after the show. And then there are three people with similar comments and I reflect about many many comments about port Where's Victor? So one is from Phil Reppert, 1993 who wrote, Victor, you need to stop apologizing for the short term absence from public viewing platform. You are a pure treasure in what you offer each time I get to see you. Then Marjorie Hoglund M6Z wrote, thank you Sammy for being a big help with our national treasure. We love and treasure VDH Blessings from Michigan. VDH is a superstar. And then Fred Ramer writes to you guys, it may have seemed to be a short absence, but to your fans it was an eternity. So very glad to have you back. Thanks for such a great show. So there are many people who wrote similar stuff?
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Victor Davis Hanson
Hundreds.
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Jack Fowler
Hundreds.
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Victor Davis Hanson
You know, I didn't miss a day. I had the flu in March and then I got sinus infections and then I had a major operation and then I had drainage and to be candid, I don't know. My, my lower right lobe collapse collapsed and it for months and I didn't know what was going on. But I'm feeling better. They just don't know why it hasn't Reinflated. I think I should put a little needle with a hand pump and do something. But I'm feeling better and I'm going to have another procedure, I think. So I'm. I haven't missed anything. It just. My wife said to me, you're not going to be able to do all these appointments that you have scans. God. I learned about an MRI versus a CAT versus a PET scan and all these blood tests. So they don't know why. Why it happened or what will happen. It's still there, that spot triangle consolidation, teletellatasis or whatever they call it. But I, I still work. I. I just don't fly for a while. But we had. We were. I guess what I'm saying, Jack. And you know, we tried to combine two things that let me get. Go up and do all these tests that they wanted me to do for two weeks. And then we were leaving one platform. We're not going to talk about why we left, but then we went to a new one. And all of us have been so energized by the youth at the Daily Signal. When you go there, there's these young kids in their 20s, 30s, early 40s, I guess that's not. And they're all so competent and energetic and full of ideas and they've energized us. So they're really trying to push the podcast they want. They renamed it. They've got. I think it's going to really take off. And that's what we're so excited about.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. Rob Bluey and Katrina Trinko, who are two of the editorial leaders there, you couldn't find more decent people, more happy warriors. Rob reminds me of another friend of ours, Gabe Conger from the Bradley Impact.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Same kind guy.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. So there's never not a smile on their face and it's all quite authentic.
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Victor Davis Hanson
That's why, you know, that's what I really confident this young. I wanted to connect with this younger generation. And that's one thing I got excited when I went out to Phoenix with Charlie Kirk. I spent a day, two days there a year and a half ago. Yeah. And then I talked. He had that energy around him. Young people. And I used to feel that way because I was teaching with young people. But when you're a fellow at the Hoover Institute, you're mostly doing research. I do go out the hills there, but I couldn't fly that. And so I missed that opportunity. And I'm going to go down to Pepperdine and see some students next week. But it's very Important to be around young people. And when I go to the Heritage to speak, it's just imbued with that youthful energy. It's some. It's just different. And I like the director a lot.
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Jack Fowler
Kevin Roberts.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Kevin Roberts, yeah.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And I've never found all of the criticisms of him that I have never found them to be true. He's. He's affable, he's reasonable. If he has a position that people disagree with, he's willing to explain it. And all of those people at the Heritage, I have a great admiration for.
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Jack Fowler
And you know, Kevin was president of where I. I've mentioned, I visited Wyoming Catholic College. He was college president of a. Of a very unique college. He said he's a smart cookie.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And I know a lot of people on the Heritage board. They're wonderful people. Larry aren't president of Hillsdale. Rebecca Mercer oversee at the Hoover Institution. So it's just a good. It's just a good fit for us. And I think I may be wrong, but I think we're going to get energized and they're going to push the podcast and we are. And we're going to try to live up to their standards and they live up to ours. So I, I think it had to come, but. So we just. It was Sammy's idea. She said, you know, you've got to get this taken care of. You need all these scans. Why don't you just take off two weeks and stay up at in the Bay Area and get it all. See what's wrong with you. I had no idea how to collapse long. It had been there for long months, apparently. And I did. And then she said, and why don't we just take this time for this difficult transition? I didn't know how difficult it is to leave the keys from one platform to go to another, but it is.
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Jack Fowler
It's not seamless.
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Victor Davis Hanson
No, it isn't. And we've made the transition and we're back on the upward spiral. Yeah.
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Jack Fowler
But Victor saying that, what he just said, I, I could be wrong, but. Because Victor's never been wrong as far as I can tell. But I, I just want to know that Victor admitted that he could possibly be wrong. Victor, you weren't wrong on anything you said today. You were terrific, all the wisdom you shared. Greatly appreciate it. Greatly appreciate the folks who take the time to write to us. And they're just over a thousand comments come in a week from Victor's website, from YouTube, Rumble, Apple, Spotify, etc. So thanks. We try to read them all. You've been great. We'll be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show. In his own words, thank you everybody.
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Victor Davis Hanson
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