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Victor Davis Hanson: ‘White Disproportionality’ on Full Display at the No Kings Protest
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Jack Fowler
The no Kings protest, from what I've seen in person and on tv, it seems to me like a big venting session. It's almost like a big group therapy.
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Victor Davis Hanson
There's no diversity is what we're, I guess we were not allowed to say. We're basically talking about elderly white baby boomers for a generation. That told us that there was something called disparate impact and proportional representation. In other words, if there are too many tire owners that are white males and it's time for the government to come in and bankroll a non white tire owner, it doesn't apply in reverse. So if the NBA or the NFL is 60 to 70% African American, it doesn't mean you're going to get an Asian guard put on each team. That just happens, Jack. It's just the natural flow. Why would we interfere? But we interfere with everything else when there is a white disproportionality. So I think they should interfere here. And I really do think that if they're going to be bused or show up, they're going to have to say, you know what? This corner right here In Washington has 79.3 white people. So we are not letting any more white people on this corner till we have real diversity. Foreign.
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Jack Fowler
Hello, ladies. Hello, gentlemen. Welcome to Victor Davis Hansen in his own Words. I'm Jack Fowler, the host. We are happily on the Daily Signal. See, Victor, I got my little Daily Signal pin on me. Just more proof I'm a company man. Victor is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College. And we are talking on Sunday, October 26, early in the morning. It's a crack of dawn out there in Selma, California. Beautiful Selma. But Victor's got a lot of wisdom to dispense. Today we are going to talk about, ooh, there's a new Japanese prime minister. A very troubling poll on antisemitism among young Americans. The no Kings rally, the demographics of it and the psychology behind them there, folks, we'll get Victor's take on that. We have another insane trucker accident, not a murder almost out in California. Obamacare. Kamala may run again. We'll get to all these when we come back from these important messages. Right is still right, even if you stand by yourself. Mr. Chief justice, may I please the court? This is Hans von Spakowski, host of the Case in Point podcast, which looks at the hottest cases affecting politics, culture and everyone's daily lives. But we talk about them without confusing legal jargon. And we have interesting guests like former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. And we end with reviews of classic Hollywood movies relevant to the topic. Case in point, the podcast available everywhere you won't want to miss. We're back with Victor Davis Hansen in his own words on the Daily Signal. By the way, folks, if you're watching this video, a video version of this and you you like doing the audio, you like the podcast, you could go to Victor's website, the blade of Perseus victorhansen.com and up there in the home page on the the right yeah the north, the Northeast, there are links where you can find for Spotify and, and Apple etc So if that's your preference. Also in the show notes on the on the YouTube version you will also find links there. So want you to be happy. However you want to get Victor's wisdom. This show will be up on Tuesday, October 28 and Victor on that day Donald Trump will will be in Asia. He will be meeting with the Japanese new Japanese prime minister. We'll get to her eventually, sooner than later. But let's start off, Victor, with some your thoughts on the no Kings protests from last weekend. And there's a piece in the Daily Mail which is talking about what are the demographics like who was there. And it seems like the predominant group was made up mostly of educated white women in their 40s. And there's a psychotherapist named Jonathan Alpert and he's, he's giving some background on on who these who and why. He's a New York City based mental health counselor. Victor, if it was good enough for the psychiatrists at Yale to investigate Donald Trump, why not have a mental health counselor from New York look at this group of women. He says here, why were they doing this? First of all, he said Albert added, this is the kind of person who is engaged in these no Kings rally are quite fluent in learning how to express themselves, their emotions. So naturally that would play out in the city streets. The no Kings protest from what I've seen in person and on tv, it seems to me like a big venting session. It's almost like a big group therapy. So people get stuff off their chest and they feel better in the moment, but it doesn't necessarily bring about any sort of positive change. He said that rather than actually affecting change, many of them are simply craving community or validation which can which he said can be addictive. Final thing here, a lot of times people are unhappy in their own lives. They may have anxiety or Anger, and they project that onto others. That's partly what we're seeing play out in these rallies. Victor, your thoughts on these rallies?
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, we have a rule, Jack. We do not use the K word. We don't the K, blank, blank, blank, N. But these are the types of stereotypes by age, race, gender and income status that I have a little something called the VDH radar. It's an early form of radar, so it only has a range of about 40 yards. But when I'm walking somewhere that is a restaurant, coffee shop, an airport, I have this little bleeper in my gr go defcon1.defcon1.defcon1. And then this person comes up and then I see the scowl and then the pace increases and then she gets in my circle. You, it's usually you, you think you know better. You. It's all this talking down to somebody. But there's no. Diversity is what we're. I guess we were not allowed to say. We're basically talking about elderly white baby boomers. And for, for a generation that told us that there was something called disparate impact and proportional representation. In other words, if there are too many tire owners that are white males, then it's time for the government to come in and bankroll a non white tire owner. It doesn't apply in reverse. So if the NBA or the NFL is 60 to 70% African American, it doesn't mean you're going to get an Asian guard put on each team in the way that DEI works in the university. And it doesn't, of course, work with donut shops if there's too many Asian donut shops or if Indian truck drivers represent 40% of California's drivers on the road. That just happens, Jack. It's just the natural flow. Why would we interfere? But we interfere with everything else when there is a white disproportionality. So I think they should interfere here. And I really do think that if they're going to be bust or show up, they're going to have to say, you know what? This corner right here In Washington has 79.3 white people. So we are not letting any more white people on this corner till we have real diversity. And then the question is, why that rubric? Why that rubric? Why affluent white many. I don't think you're going to find many 7, 11 owners there. I don't think you're going to find many tire store owners. I think you're going to see people who work for the government, who are teachers, and so they're on A guaranteed salary like I have been most of my, my life except when I farmed. I can tell you it creates a different ethos once you have a guaranteed salary. The other thing to remember is he, he delved into the psychological reasons why this took place and I would differ a little bit. I think there's a certain group of baby boomers and when globalization hit, they did very well. They're the upper middle class and they came of age in the 60s and 70s when you could buy a house. They have a house, they have good pension, they're well off, they're affluent and they like it and they're in good, nice safe neighborhoods and they have good friends. They are very guilty as we saw on Martha's Vineyard when the other Hispanic, black, non white enter their domain. At least unless they're like Barack Obama, but. And so they're very skeptical about putting their children or grandchildren in a multiracial public school in a big city. They're very skeptical about solar wind. They want solar wind high $0.40 a kilowatt because they live in nice places where the energy is not too high but they don't really care what it falls upon. Same thing with gasoline, same thing about security and crime. They want to defund the police, they want juveniles out. But they live in areas where that doesn't affect them. So what I'm getting at is they create a facade and of caring, performance art, virtue signaling and they feel guilty so they project and, and, and they go out on the street and show everybody how left wing they are in an empty and futile expression of caring and left wing fides. But when you actually look at their lives and see to what degree they live with the other, they go to dinner with the other, they have their kids in school with the other, they don't. And that makes them feel really bad. So one of the ways they square that circle is by performance art virtue signaling through in Martha's Vineyard. And all of a sudden some illegal aliens from south of the border show up. You get some really nice shiny cardboard boxes, you put your used puff coats in, you deliver them to the center and then you say the bus is waiting for you outside to take you to Harlem. See, you wouldn't want to be you. And that's how they operate. And I've seen them my whole life. So they're the ob. What's new is that they're, they are the object of ridicule by a lot of people, the left, left wing, affluent white, bicoastal professional classes who show up at these anti Tesla no kings rallies and it's just a mechanism of squaring their own uncomfort discomfort with their abstract ideology does not match how they live. If you look at how they live, they are some of the most materialistic, acquisitive, status obsessed people in the world. If you see that what they say or how they demonstrate, you would think they were neo socialist. I think that explains it.
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Jack Fowler
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, it was a two day tomorrow is approaching 95. It coincided with his 95th birthday so he wasn't able to come. But he did do a long interview with Peter Robinson which was aired and we were told and Tom did watch it. But Clarence Thomas was there. He was wonderful. He spoke with Peter Robinson for about an hour and I talked to him a little bit. Everybody likes Clarence Thomas because given all of the laurels and professional successes had. He's so approachable and he's never forgotten where he came from in the sense that he came from poverty and he's empathetic to people who are poor. That doesn't come across from the left, does it? But he's one of the most empathetic people in public life. So he was, it was very good. And then there were different panels, the intellect Tom sold the public intellectual, the economist, the sociologist. And it was, it was really excellent. It was really crowded. We had about 350 supporters of the Hoover Institution there and about 20 participants who offered. Jason Riley gave a keynote space, who was his biographer and documentarian. And I just talked about his trilogy, Race and Culture, Migrations in Culture and Conquest and Culture, he wrote that was about 1500 pages and he started that when he was 65 years old and he finished it in four years. 70, 69. It's a, it's part of the culmination of what he was trying to tell people, that race does not determine how a particular group does. It's its culture. And so he's, he always took a contrary view, the correct one, I think, contrary to Charles Murray, whom was there also and was very polite, kind to everybody, that there is no genetic determination, at least of, of a degree that's measurable and, and, and determinate. And so it's culture. Yeah. And so he. We talked about all the different cultures. In my talk, I, I pointed out that how did Britain, when it was conquered by the Romans. The Romans considered, you know, was very backward. They had no urban areas, so to speak. They were tattooed, tribal, and then they absorbed the Roman experience, more so than almost anybody. And then within a few centuries they were conquering the world. And he made a point in all these books that conquest is historically determinative as long as the conquering power is more sophisticated culturally and imprints that culture onto the conquered people who then are assimilated within it. But if it's the opposite, that is Attila the Han or the Germans coming across the Danube and the Rhine, then you have years of desolation. So everybody was talking like that and I thought that was. They asked me to talk a little bit about when I got to the Hoover Institution in 2002, 3. Tom called me, I had never met him. And he said we should have lunch. And we hit it off. And so for once or twice a month, for the next, I think, until Covid, for the next 16 years, we met and I talked a little bit about Tom's eccentricities in the positive sense, of course. But he's a big photographer, isn't he? He's a very good photographer. He. One theme is, you know, Tom Soul is his own man. Tom Soul in his own word. Tom Soul, whatever. He was determined from the very get go that he was going to have a view of life. He was going to do what he wanted within parameters. He was going to have a code of behavior. And I said that if you watch Lonesome Dove, you remember the Tommy Lee Jones, Captain Carl McCall. I won't, I won't put up with it. I have a certain code to be. Well, that was Tom Sowell and, and that could, that could range across the way. If he sent in a manuscript and he was certain, he said, do not change a word. If he sent an article in, people said, this is really great, I'll make a few changes. He would say, send it back, I don't want it in. If I went to lunch and somebody started to dominate the conversation and was obnoxious, Tom said, was there a point, was there a point that you were here?
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Jack Fowler
Would he get up and leave even or.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yes, yes. And I mentioned that one time where he got up and left. And the very prominent person there said, well, he's been gone a long time. I guess he went to the restroom. I said, I think he will be gone a very long time. Because the person was not sensitive to how he was affecting Tom. And so he had no tolerance for nonsense. And he had. Then I talked about his literary style, which was Tacitian or what the Greeks, Thucydide and the Attic style, where, you know, it was kind of like Hemingway subject, verb, predicate, deliberately so, without what the Asiatic style said. Variatio. You should. If you, you know, if you're using. Talking about law, you say law, law, law. Or do you say law, statute or legislation or jurisprudence. And Tom would always say, why would I change a word when the next. Just for variety, when the next word doesn't mean that much different. Why not just go with law? And I said because it sounds monotonous and repetitive. And he said, that's the point. It gets it across. And that's a. That goes back to classical times, that argument between, you know, the sparse style and the elaborate are the ornate. So it was a really good symposium. It went very well and we had a lot of different people. Roland Fryer, the Harvard economist. Glenn Lurie was there. Our economist spoke. John Cochran, Michael Boskin, John Kogan, Neil Ferguson was on my panel and so was Coleman use and trying to think who the other ones were, but there were so many people there. And Condoleezza Rice was. Oversaw the whole thing and helped plan it. And the master of ceremonies was Kimberly Strassel. Oh, who was just, you know, she's really developed a talent for that, the Bradley and things she does have. She's, I think she's, she has developed the reputation of as the conservative master of ceremonies to go to on, on award banquets and stuff because she handles herself so well. She speaks impromptu without notes and she's Scandinavian, of course. Well, although she's a Norwegian, much more sophisticated.
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Jack Fowler
That's why she lives in Alaska.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Right.
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Jack Fowler
She likes the cold. Hey.
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Victor Davis Hanson
She has a wonderful, she has a wonderful husband, Nicholas. I like him. I talk to him a lot. The.
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Jack Fowler
You mentioned the interview. I want to recommend I saw about half of it. Uncommon Knowledge. Peter Robinson interviewing Tom Sowell. And I love Sowell's New York accent even though he's from North Carolina. I think he was nine years old or thereabouts when he moved to New York City. But he had an old time New York City accent.
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Victor Davis Hanson
People have really tried to figure out what it was. It has elements of the black South a little bit. It, it's New York, but it's like out of a time capsule about 1930. Right, right. He's got an academic twinge to it, but it's uniquely and solely his own. And he's very, very well spoken. I don't know how many times I've had somebody at these lunches because we invited people who would start to dominate the conversation. You could see Tom, I thought, 10, nine, eight, seven, six, five. It's going to be what, two kilotons, one Meg Baton. What's going to go off? And he would say, what makes you think that there's no evidence. We're talking at lunch. We have one rule at lunch. It has to be evidence based. Anybody can throw out an idea and he's not a contrarian. But his, his view of life and personalities and ideas is that human nature being what it. He has a tragic view of nature, that we're flawed at birth and only by culture and religion and acculturation can we become civilized human beings. We're not Rousseau's, you know, we were born into the chains of religion. We have to free ourselves and the noble savage and all that. But he's. I don't know how to put it, but he is a contrarian. But he doesn't just take an idea and say reject it because it's the dominant idea, what he basically says is most people, birds of a feather, flock together. They want to be liked. They want to go where the power is. Most people have no definite ideology or persuasion. You know, LBJ can get one of the biggest landslides in history against Goldwater. Nixon can have one of the biggest landslides. They can go back and forth. They're very volatile. That makes him think that when you have a strong consensus, you should be very skeptical of it. Not just to disagree, you can agree with it, but you should be very skeptical because most people are taking these positions like they're biting, you know, hula hoops or pet rocks. And the same thing is true of the transgender. You know, there's a. We've discussed. The articles are coming out that there's been a massive drop off and the young people who are transgendering. Right. And I think we're going to go back to the gender dysphoria of about.001% of the population that scientific studies prior to this trend had shown. But that's. It was a big success and it followed our fall retreat, which was a success. And it's, you know, I, Yeah, for me, the thing that, that I like about the Hoover Institution, not that it's not the only thing, but the history departments in the Bay Area, at Stanford, Berkeley and the UC campus are all ideological theory. So when I got there, I was the only classicist and there was only a couple of historians. If you look at the quality of historians there now, it is better. It's just shocking. It's. I give credit to Condoleezza Rice. She deliberately tried. She got into a little spout with a history department when she said something with quite accurately, we, we want to have narrative history. You know what I mean? Big history, Gibbon, Prescott, things go back to that tradition and that somebody said, well, that's. But they do these little micro, you know, gender studies and all this stuff. But so when you look at. You have Neil Ferguson, I think he's one of the best historians in the United States, Andrew Roberts. You and I have talked and know Andrew and my gosh, the Churchill biography, the Napoleon biography, the history of the English people. We've got one of the best Chinese historians, Frank Decoder, who's written. And right across the hallway I have Stephen Kotkin, who's written this massive three volume, the third volume is coming out. He is the world's expert on Joseph Stalin. And then we have H.R. mcMaster, who's been writing a lot of history lately, and Barry Strauss, the Classicist and historian is there and it's 1927 New York Yankees. Yeah, it is, it is, it's. It's so funny. And yet if you were a young history graduate student in the department of history and you came over and you said, wow, I want to work with Neil Ferguson or Andrew Roberts or Frank Dakota or. I don't think they would let you do it. I really don't. There's so much animosity on their side. And my colleague of yours, Pastor Josiah Ober, a classicist. So I think we have. We had one classic as Poor Me and now I think we have one. We have Barry Strauss, Josiah over myself and then Bruce Thornton, who's a researcher who I've known him for 40 years. He's written 11 books. He's also an ancient historian. Then I've hired two David Berkeley, my assistant's got a PhD in classics and Morgan Hunter I hired. So I have people saying that we were favoring classics people, but we're not. Anyway, that's a riff. But the Hoover Institution, I don't know if anybody knows it, but if you were to look at the historians, I think it's the best history group in the country. Terrific.
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Jack Fowler
Thanks for that, Victor. Hey, we're going to, we're going to get to Japan and its new prime minister and what else? Well, maybe we'll stick in Kamala Harris and we'll do that when we come back from these important messages. We are back with the Victor Davis Hansen.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Hey, Jack, I gotta add one thing. There was a big development. We're talking about Stanford. Stanford Faculty Senate has a bad habit of as lemmings or mice. They get it in their head. One of the, the hair head of the. The Faculty senate when they went after Scott Atlas and Neil Ferguson myself had helped create an antifa like organization on campus.
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Jack Fowler
Can you just say why they went after you?
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Victor Davis Hanson
They went after. It was right after January 6th. So they had said that Scott's correct, correct, correct policies when he was a voice in the wilderness along with J. Bhattacharya and said do not shut down the economy. Do not shut it down. If you do in the schools, you're going to do irreparable damage. We can get through this with the vaccinations and for some who want it, for young people who are not as susceptible, but do not and everybody. So they said he was killing people and they had a vote to censor him. And then Neil Ferguson was drafted to be a faculty design advisor on cardinal conversations. He was supposed to be the the conservative advisor. And there was another person from Hoover whom I won't mention who was the liberal advisor but you know how that goes. The students were not going to be 50 50, so they stacked it with left wing people and the conservative students were not able to get real conservatives to come. So one of them wrote and he was very prominent from a very prominent political family, he wrote to Neil saying what are we going to do? You're the advisor. And he in a joking fashion said you should do Apple research like as if this is a political campaign. Well, that person showed that. So within days the Stanford Daily said Hoover fellow Ferguson advocates destroying 18 year old or 19 year old. It was just ridiculous. And then the history department voted not said that he was not qualified to be in the history department which is completely a joke. And then for me they didn't really know except they said I was on Fox News too much and that I had been on Tucker Carlson show when there was election denialism being discussed. So a very nice person at the Hoover Institution in reaction to that had me go over everything I said on all the Fox news works from January 6, I think for two months, pages and pages I didn't say anything. Every time that was asked about it. LOU Dobbs TUCKER CARLSON I said I don't think it was the machines. I think they changed the voting laws. And the result was early mailing ballot, early ballots, mail in ballots. 30% showing up at the polls. Traditionally 70% they mastered that snuck through the state legislatures in March and April of 2020. Mark Elias's group Sorrels Money Changeth Republicans were asleep at the wheel. And the result was that Joe Biden got I don't know, 81 million votes and Barack Obama won with 65 million just four years earlier. So you had a decrepit candidate who got more votes than the most magnetic magnetic Democratic candidate since FDR or jfk. And that's all. So they brought us all in a package to attack the Hoover Institution.
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Jack Fowler
Can I just interrupt again? Who is the tell us about who led the fight from the fact.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, David Palumbo. David Palumbo, he's an English professor. And was he antifa? Antifa, I don't want to use that. They don't use that word. But he was the campus advisor co director of a group anti fascist group. And you know how that works.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
You say you're anti, you say you, you call it everything but antifa. And then when somebody says you're antifa, they say you're. It's character assassination. But he did help a few years ago lead a demonstration on a major Bay Area bridge that disrupted it, caused a number of accidents and got a number of Stanford kids arrested. So the point was when we got there, it was an attack on the Hoover Institution, it was attack on us. And it wasn't very hard to refute, put it that way. So they dropped it. And then of course there were spin offs. If you walk with Scott Atlas across campus, people would turn the other way. And in my case, if I went to the Stanford studio, they said, you have to write out before you. We're going to let you do anything. I said, are you serious? They said, yep. I said, that guy over there on CNN and msnbc, I was in the green room, I heard what he said. It's a complete lie. Everything he said about Donald Trump and the so called urination tape and the collusion and then laptop, it was just a lie. Well, for you, you write it out. And then I complained and they said we didn't do that. Come back. Of course, Fox was very good. Fox just said, we're not going to do anything with these people unless it's spontaneous and unscripted. And so then I go back and sure enough, you've got it right. And I said, I'm never going to use you people again. You make me sick. And I haven't really reconciled. But Hoover has a studio but it can't really use Fox very often because it closes at Pacific time at 5, you know, so you can only do a 4 o' clock show. They have a wonderful person there, Laurie, that does it. But anyway, long story short, it all collapsed and now in there we have a new president. And this was the point of this long excursus everybody, which, for which I apologize. They said, well, we kind of sort of feel kind of maybe that we shouldn't be just trying to censor individual faculty members for their views. You think if you have a quasi antifa person and you don't censor him and you're censoring people who haven't done anything wrong. But here's the kicker. They passed it, but they didn't rescind the censure of Scott Atlas. So we don't believe in censoring anybody anymore. We're not going to target anybody, but we're not going to resend the censor. It was bad. They're saying it was bad that we did that, we're not going to do it anymore. But maybe it wasn't bad that we did it. First to Scott. Wow. Wow. You know, another thing that people don't understand about Scott is there's a two volume, 1500 page book called the Brain and MRI and it is the qualitative, quantitative masterpiece of MRI technology. So when I have this health problem, I have all these scans and that's you get kind of, you know, you take enough MRI or CAT scans or pet not forget about the radiation in the latter two cases. But you're going to find something. Right? Everybody inside has cyst and tumors that are benign and everything, but. So I get a call, you've got this very serious tumor cyst. Da, da, da da. So, you know, it's kind of scary be told that. So then what's the first thing comes to your mind, Scott? How many people can say they have a friend who is the world's expert on the MRI and a tumor in the neurological system? So I call him up. He's very tacitian. Send me over the scans. Send me over the scan. It was about 48 hours later. I discussed this on page 82 of the Mr. On the Brain. This is in an area of the cortex. I couldn't know any of the words that 98% of these things. First of all, this is a cyst. It is not a solid tumor. And second, it is benign. And third, there is a thing that this was a Tesla 3. Da, da, da, da, da da da type of MRI. And sometimes there is a false cerebral fluid. I didn't understand it. Bottom line, do not that, do not get biopsy, do not get diet. This is nothing. It was just the opposite of what they said. And then later I had to have for this lung problem a P E T. And it was just so funny that that didn't light up. You know, that's a scan that lights up cancerous things. So what I'm getting at everything that he told me during my, my, all of these exams and things I' Everything he said was absolutely right, but he said it almost spontaneously after looking at it. He didn't consult. And so when I'm only mentioning this, everyone. Because when he was the advisor to Trump, remember how Jack, they attacked him because they said he's a radiologist and not. They never said that Fauci was not an immunologist or a biologist. He wasn't.
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Jack Fowler
Or the doctor who had never practiced in his life.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah. But anyway, he's a. That I hope that they have a vote pretty soon. Not that he cares or anybody would care that they resend the censure. It's Kind of an honor to be censured by the Stanford Faculty Senate. Anyway, that was.
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Jack Fowler
Well, it's interesting because not only is he the premier man for MRI brain stuff, and also he's proven right on public health, which is a massive undertaking. And he's also separately. And I know I've talked to him about this, leading an effort for. We call it the Global. Global Global Liberty Institute. So, you know, Scott's. I, I think he's one of the great Americans.
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Victor Davis Hanson
He's, he's, he's very much like Tom Sowell. He, he's very blunt. He's very candid. He tells the truth. He's not afraid to be a contrarian or in the minority of a position. And they've done the same thing to Tom Soul. I read the Reviews in the 1990s of these, this trilogy of books he wrote and they were very, they were all left wing. He doesn't know what he's talking about. It was horrible what they wrote. And, and so anyway, I, I think everybody should know that about Scott, that we always think of him as a controversial advisor who was proven right along with Jay Bacharya. Yeah. About warning everybody about the deleterious effects of. On children in schools and businesses and the destruction on small businesses. But he had a whole nother life as probably the world's greatest radiologist on the brain and spinal column. Yeah. MRIs.
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Jack Fowler
Well, you've told here this whole Stanford situation is the price you pay as a scholar and academic when you tell the truth.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And it is. You know, I think I've told that story before when I got there. This person will be unnamed. He kind of put his arm around me and he walked over and he said, now you're in the big leagues, Victor. And I hope it doesn't awe you, but you're kind of an affirmative action candidate. We really don't like, you know, we don't bring people from the state colleges. I said, well, you, you brought Shelby Steele. Well, yeah, yeah, we did, but it's going to be very intimidating here. I said, no, it's not. I said, I've been. I was a visiting professor here. I was here 91 as a classics professor. 92 is at the center for Behavioral Studies. With all due respect, I found more dynamic people at the Cal State nursing system. And then he just. Silence. And then he said, well, there's a certain Stanford culture. I said, yeah, I know. My mom went there. My aunt went there in 1939 for B.A. my mom in 42. My aunt got a master's degree in 45. My mom got a legal law degree from Stanford, so my nephew went there. My first co.
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Jack Fowler
So you went there?
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Victor Davis Hanson
I went there. I got a. He didn't even know that. I said, I was here four years. So I said, well, then you know what Stanford's like. And I said, I know all too well what Stanford's like. So anyway.
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Jack Fowler
Well, I was.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I like, I'm not saying it's a great university, but it has the modern incarnation. When I was there, when I was a little kid and I went to my mom's reunion, we'd drive up an old station wagon and she would always want to go. And I would visit relatives there. And when I taught, there was a visitor when I was there another year at the Stanford, the center there, Behavioral Science Center. And then when I've been at Hoover, I know it's a great university, but it has two things that I don't know how it is very snobbish and the grounds for being snobbishness may have been justified when it was purely merocratic, but it's not now. It's been affected by DEI like all the other. So when you start to give 70 and 80% grades, are you tenure Claudine Gay after she's plagiarized, then you're it's not going to be the same university. When I went there, we'd always say the problem with studying Greek in the class history department is not Greek. It's the English accents or the Austrian or German accents of the faculty, you know, almost everybody was from Oxford or Cambridge or University of Vienna, University of Leipzig, and they all had these thick accents. So when they were speaking, reading Latin or Greek or asking us to do certain things, I couldn't understand, you know, because the View will have a. We would like you to translate 22 pages this week. What did you say? 22 pages. Lucias. What? What?
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Jack Fowler
Somehow you managed, though, Victor.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Somehow. Yeah. All right.
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Jack Fowler
Well, let's first of all, I want to. I've started this segment by mistitling this show. It's Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. Yes.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Thank you again, but it's not in my own words. It's in your words. And come on, it's.
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Jack Fowler
Let me, let me torture some of our listeners with my Bronx accent for a new story. Japan has a new prime minister. Conservative. I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing this Sen. Takechi. And here's the headline of a Reuters article. Japan's new prime Minister, Sanai Takeichi told US President Donald Trump that strengthening her country's alliance is her government's top priority. In their first phone call on Saturday, Takechi also told Trump that Japan is an indispensable partner in terms of the US's strategies towards China and the Indo Pacific, according to comments posted on her website. I conveyed to him that strengthening the Japan US alliance is the top priority for my administration's foreign and secure security policy. We confirmed our shared commitment to further elevating the alliance to new heights. We are talking Victor on Sunday the 26th. The show's out on the 28th and the 28th is the day when Donald Trump is actually meeting with her. I think it's great news. This conservative leader of Japan, important ally. What are your thoughts?
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Victor Davis Hanson
I do. China's great fear in Asia's Japan. Part of it is because of the historical animosity and the Japanese occupation of China from, you know, 33 and then again 37, 38, 16 million Chinese were killed. But it's also the idea that it is an innovative, dynamic society that creates goods and services and power well beyond its population, and it's right there as a roadblock to Chinese expansionism. And so far, because of the wounds of World War II, it had not fully rearmed and presence in the past treated it like they did Germany and to a lesser extent Italy. That is, you're not going to have a bomb and you're not going to rearm because in the case of Germany, you've done this twice. In the case of Japan, you've been fighting in China since the early 30s, da da da, da da. But now, you know, it's, it's had a, a record of economic expansionism. The worry about Japanese Inc. Remember the 80s, everybody was worried about Sony owning, I think they own pebble beach and that's all over with. They have demographic problems, they've had deflationary problems, GDP problems. But I think now the idea that they're building what fleet size aircraft carriers. And as somebody wrote a book On World War II, when you look at the Akagi and the Kagi and the Heru and the Syria, they, they were building carriers as good, if not better than ours. And when the war broke out, the Mitsubishi Zero, which was soon outclassed by our Hellcats and Corsairs, but at the beginning of the war it was the best fighter in the Pacific. So the idea that they're naming carriers after those who attacked Pearl harbor, this is kind of shows confidence. But they can make weapons like they make Hondas and Toyotas. So they're an exceptional ally. And I think it's a great thing that we're going to be partners and they're going to rearm, and that's going to encourage the Philippines, especially Australia and Taiwan and South Korea also to spend more money on munitions and take the responsibility off us somewhat. Right. It's funny, too, because we're watching the World Series, Jack, and we had this wonderful pitching last night by a guy named Yamamoto, and none of us associated him with Admiral Yamamoto, because that shows you how things have changed. And the Dodgers isn't that. I think the manager, Dave Roberts, is half Korean, excuse me, half Okinawan, I think. And there's Ohtani, the miraculous player, who's Japanese. So they have two Japanese superstars on the team and a manager that's also half Asian or Okinawan or Japanese. Maybe he's of Korean. I don't know on Okinawa. But the point I'm. You know, it's all odd living here in California is when you see these Japanese names of these celebrities or politicians. Because I grew up in a. With a Japanese community. One of the biggest communities in California was in the Central Valley. They were the farming community that came over. So I have two neighbors that were. So I think Yamamoto. Oh, I know David Yamamoto. And then it was, oh, Ohtani. Oh, I remember Ohtani's Market in Reedley. And so almost every Japanese name you hear, it's one that's familiar from a Japanese family.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, it's interesting.
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Victor Davis Hanson
It's. They've been one of the most successful immigrant groups I think you could ask for. Yeah, it just. They have almost a zero Japanese. I say, in the past, because they're intermarried, like a lot of groups, like Armenian Americans. Right. They're intermarried, acculturated. So, you know, you don't have the Buddhist temples like when I was growing up and things like that. There's still a Japanese ethnic pride, but there's not. The immigration stopped and because Japan got very affluent. And then more importantly, the inter. They were one of the groups that had the highest intermarriage out of their ethnic group. And anyway, it's. It's. It's good to see that. My grandfather was always in admiration of them. He would always drive around and he'd say, that man, Victor is going to go broke. Look at that house. He inherited that property. And that shed needs to be fixed. That barn needs to be fixed. He needs four new. What did he do? He just built a big mansion. Then he would go Buy a Japanese farm. He said, look at that farm. It's farmed like a park. There is not a weed out of. There's no weeds. There's not a grape stake that's not in line. Look at that beautiful barn. Look at all that stuff. And he has a modest little house. Yeah. And he was very. It's.
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Jack Fowler
It's interesting, you know, political. I know the dissipation of groups like. You know, who are the hardcore Italians anymore? Yeah, they're. Well, we've all intermarried. The Irish are all intermarried. Even Victor. I hear some of the Swedes have.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Intermarried, but there's no Swedish community left. Yeah, I mean, there are people like me that are mongrel.
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Jack Fowler
But the Japanese were politically were very Democrat oriented, it seemed.
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Victor Davis Hanson
No, they were just the. They started out Democratic and then they were. They were. Became very affluent and then. Gotta remember Si Hayakawa, sleeping Sam, he was very right wing. So they were. They were attacked by the left for being one of the most conservative minorities. And then their children, the last two generations have gone to the universities, all of them, and they're very. They're. They dominate a lot of the professions and they are much more liberal now. Yeah, that came from. Are you everything. Anybody who comes in contact with the university and all of these ethnic groups understand that upward mobility is predicated on professional letters after your name and stuff like that. There's not that there wasn't a lot of successful Japanese businessmen. There were, but most of them went into the dentistry, ophthalmology, optics, pharmacy and became very, very successful. Very, very successful.
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Jack Fowler
Well, let's close out this segment with a little quick thought here because I think we may have talked about it before and it's not a real surprise, but it's, you know, just. You want to smack your head against the wall. Kamala Harris, I am not done and may run for president in 2028. She told us to BBC during an interview last week, Sunday with Laura Kunsberg.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Okay.
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Jack Fowler
You know, I may run for president too in 2028.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Victor, what are your thoughts about Kamala? I think the subtext was I was definitively the worst candidate in a generation and I blew a 3 billion dollar advantage over Donald Trump who was coming off 91 Ind. And he beat me. And he beat me in all the swing states. He beat me in the popular vote. He beat me in the electoral vote. And I think I want to repeat that. And you've seen me in since the election and I'm dynamic and I'm well spoken. No, you're not. You just, you're just reaffirming why you lost. You cannot speak. Well, I don't. She just. I don't know what to say. I have to be very careful. But there are people that I know very successfully, very successful who are black and we just talked about them, that their race was incidental to whom they are. So when I talk to Tom, I don't talk about him being black. He never mentions it. Shelby Steele never mentions it and she's mentioning it all the time. And that's always a tip off or when somebody tries to self identify and I don't like it, you know. Right. It just. So I asked myself if she was just a so called white candidate, would she. And she performed as she did, would she be even considered? No. But she always said, I'm going to be the first Asian, I'm going to be the first black woman president. She never said, I'm going to assure you I'm going to be the most articulate, the most informed, the most incisive, the most engaging. She never talked like that. That wasn't her aspiration. When she was nominated, they basically. And how was she nominated? She was a coup. No Kings March. How about a no Queen's March? No Queen's March. They were just Joe bought. They went into a room, the donor class and the politicos and the insiders and the media grandees and they got Joe, Joe and Hunter and Jill and they said, well, you had a month. That was the worst blank, blank debate performance in history. You're a doddering old fool and you owe us because you were never going to win in 2020 until we kicked out Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg and we appointed you and then you were a useful waxen effigy and we got our thing. But you can't even appreciate, you can't even perform that role anymore. You wander off, you scream and yell, it's an old man, get off my grass. Look for it. We don't want it anymore. So you're out. Well, I'm the President of the United States. No, you're not. You were created by us and you're destroyed by us. You came in on a coup, you're leaving under a coup. Kamala Harris is going to do it. No open convention, no vote. Well, she didn't even get one vote. Delegate, it doesn't matter. But she ran in 2020. She was a horrific candidate. She's never won a delegate. If you appoint her right now, she has no delegates. I have 14 million votes voted, doesn't matter, she's gone. Got it. And that's how she was. And then they had a convention, they said everybody's going to vote for her. How many want her to be our nominee. That's what happened. And then karma came in and said, you want to do this? Go ahead and do it. And then she had one big decision to make, one big decision to show us her presidential wisdom. And she picked Tim Waltz, the biggest buffoon candidate. And I think her attitude was, well, I could pick Josh Shapiro, but my party is anti Semitic. Now they would walk on that. And there's a recent poll out that you and I, we're going to talk about that.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
It shows you that young people, a majority think that Israel, Jewish people overdo the Holocaust. Well, that's the people who they were afraid of offending. So they picked Tim Waltz. And then he got on his ankle by ankle high pants and his elbow linked suit, his flapping hand, flapping hands pointing to people in the audience. And he looked like a kind of a pachyderm ballerina as he went out there on the stage. And it's just embarrassing. And me, that cartoon, I was going.
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Jack Fowler
To say Disney cartoon with the.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Remember he had a little dress on he point. Yeah, yeah. That's who he was. And he was just. Everything about him was sad. I felt that's when I really admired J.D. vance. He was debating him and in 10 minutes it was like he took a, a stiletto and carved him and he was bleeding with a thousand cuts. And then he thought, do I really want to humiliate and bleed this guy out when I've got 40 minutes left? So then he starts saying things like. And you know Tim, you and I would agree on this and in the past you've said this. It was sensible and he was really kind. He didn't put his boot on his neck and step on it. Yeah. Some of you were saying, Victor, that's what he should have done. But no, he had so disgraced him that he, he treated him kindly. Not that he, Tim Waltz would have done that, but, but yeah, that was the worst I, that I, I knew. I mean I, I watched Spiro Agnew. Spiro Agnew could speak, you know, especially given the speech writers he had.
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Jack Fowler
Buchanan.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, yeah.
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Jack Fowler
John Coyne, who just passed away. Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, the famous guy, what's his name? He was a famous guy for the New York Times, wrote for him. I'll remember his name in a second. But he was A columnist.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. We've gone through this before and I forgot then. But anyway, maybe next he was a speechwriter also.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah.
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Jack Fowler
Well, Victor, let's take a little break here, our final break and then when we come back we will focus on that anti Semitism poll you you mentioned. We'll do that in Uno segundo. We are back with Victor Davis Hansen in his own words talking here on Sunday, October 26th. This episode will be up on October 28th. Victor has a website, the Blade of Perseus. VictorHansen.com is the address. Check it out and do subscribe. It's $6.50 a month or if you want to do annually discounted to $65. That's like getting two free months. And Victor twice a week writes an exclusive article for the Blade of Perseus and once a week does an exclusive video and links galore of his other appearances and his weekly essay for American greatness. Weekly syndicated column, blade of Perseus victorhansen.com okay, Victor here is from the Daily Mail, America, America's Anti Semitism crisis. I think I want to get your thought on just that word laid bare. As disturbing trends emerge. A batch of explosive new polling data is exposing a growing anti Semitic streak among young Americans with the majority believing Jewish people exploit the Holocaust for political gain. The exclusive JL Partners Daily Mail poll shows that half of voters, half of voters aged 18 to 29 think Jews are weaponizing the genocide of 6 million people, a view that drops dramatically among older generations. When asked whether quote Jewish people talk about the Holocaust just to further their political agenda, end quote. A staggering 51% of young respondents agree with that statement, highlighting what experts see as an alarming trend in antisemitism among Gen Z. And by the way, Victor, some of that comes from what we would might say is our our side of the aisle. I've heard some the Scanda Sons lunacy that I think educates part of this Gen Z outcome. Anyway your thoughts more but more thoughts.
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Victor Davis Hanson
On this, Victor I was kind of when I read stuff like this I always say think of all the people that you know and sometimes I don't know somebody's Jewish, I don't even care but that you know, are Jewish. And did they ever talk about the Holocaust? No. And did they talk about being a victim? No. And so I don't this young generation goes the unit so they have to try to explain it left or right. And you're right, it's starting to it's a little different. The motivations in the cattle. The left are getting it from the university and they're getting it from the 300,000 Middle east students and all the money from Qatar and these Middle east programs and the general education and they're like sheep. And so if you go, you know, at Stanford and you see all these pro Hamas people after October 7, in direct violation of university rules, where they're camping out for four months and you have all these students supporting them, that is where that comes from. The right comes from, I think, podcast a lot, not so much university, but the countercult, the counter left culture. And that's Candace Owens. Tucker has been very angry at people who have suggested that he was anti Semitic. I think he says he's anti Israel, but he's engaged right now on a really. Have you noticed that? A really sharp attack on Mark Levin and Ted Cruz and said that, well, Ted Cruz is not Jewish, but said that they're hijacking the MAGA agenda in service for Israel and they're, they're questioning the 9, 11, you know, attacks and as if it's. I think it was Building seven. Remember, Building seven fell without being hit and people have suggested that Israeli agents dynamited it or something. I know it. And that's dangerous, I think, and I don't know why all of a sudden at this point, but there's an element in the maga, I would guess, and I'm not going to say they're anti Semitic, although I will say in one case, if you bring on David Cullum and you have Daryl Cooper on there, and the, the former says we should make a, and how to made a. An alliance with Hitler rather than Stalin. Not that they're not both horrific people, but Hitler, the architect of the Holocaust. And you say, as Daryl Cooper, that Churchill's a terrorist and basically we were the bad guys. There's a subtext there. And the people who were killed in 1941 and two by the German invasion were just collateral damage. It was just poorly thought out. They didn't have the facilities when, you know, what happened at Bobby Yard, to take one example. So it's, it's, it's getting scary. And Steve Bannon, Candace Owens Tucker, Marjorie Taylor Greene, they all question the support for Israel. The thing I don't understand is if you say that we shouldn't really support Israel to the degree that we do, then I don't know what. And I'm not going to speak for them. Do they just think we should not support anybody or we should support the people that attack Israel like Iran, you know, so when Tucker said that if we bomb Iran, not going to see what happened in Iraq, I supported that war. And it didn't turn out very well. It was a tragedy. But he said he supported it and he, and he doesn't want any of that. But I think if anybody read carefully the type of operation that Trump was contemplating, go in, bomb, get out, make Iran great, no more tit for tat. And that's what happened. What did they want? That's what I'm saying. Is it a tilt toward the Arab world and Hamas and all these people are trying to destroy Israel, or is it just, just let's just keep out of it and let Israel fight the 500 million people around it? Right.
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Jack Fowler
Well, that's our fight. You know, over my shoulder here, for those on video, this Bill Buckley from.
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Victor Davis Hanson
His campaign, mayor in 1965.
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Jack Fowler
But at the very end of Bill's life, he, he had talked to us at NR about wanting it to focus on Islamo fascism, which wasn't just something that happened in 2006, seven, eight, I mean, or nor did it just start on September 11th. I mean, we have Islamo fascism, you know, abducting the hostages in Iran in 1979. And Islamic attacks on the west have been going back for centuries. So Israel's at the forefront of that.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Fight, and it's our fight. I would just ask some questions. I've been to Israel a number of times. I see 2 million Arabs there living as Israeli citizens. And I was talking to a Jewish doctor there. And it's amazing how the Arab community has dominated the medical professions within Israel. They're a professional class. I don't see that in, to the same degree of success in Jordan or Egypt or Libya or Morocco or anywhere. Then I say to myself, well, this is a Jewish state. And that's a criticism. The. Right. Well, what do you think the 500 million people are? Are you trying to tell me that Saudi Arabia or Kuwait or Egypt are not Islamic states? I don't say they're isis. But you can't put it this way. Just if you want to put a mosque and you go to Israel and you have a mosque, which I've seen, does that have a greater chance of being destroyed or you want to make a synagogue? You just say, you know what, I like people in Gaza, I like people in the West Bank. So I'm going to go back over there and I'm going to go into Gaza and I'm going to buy some more land and I'm going to Put a Senate. How long would that last? How long would that last? If you're a Jew and you live in an Arab community in the west bank or in Syria or Iraq, are you safer than an Arab in Israel? Ask yourself that.
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Jack Fowler
I think in our lifetime there were some significant Jewish diaspora. There was and no more.
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Victor Davis Hanson
They're all 1 million. There were four diasporas right after the 47 war, right after the 56, right after the 67, right after the 73, and each one, Damascus, Cairo, Amman, Beirut, Baghdad, ethnically cleansed Jews. And now there's a million of them are gone. They had been there since the Middle Ages where they fled from Europe after the Inquisition and stuff, and they're gone completely. And so I, I don't understand when this anger at Israel, Just ask, be empirical. Forget about Jews in the United States and all this. Just ask yourself, compare. And then you say, well, what, what do they do with God? Does anybody believe that Israel would have gone in there and bombed everybody if they hadn't butchered 1200 people in a medieval fashion on October 7th? Does anybody believe that If Hamas, by the way, Hamas only wears uniforms when it's killing its own people. When it goes and fights the idf, it wears civilians clothes to blend in. So if they had just worn their uniforms and said, you know what, we're not going to put our own people in danger by headquartering our military facilities and mosque and hospitals and schools. We're not going to do that. We're going to fight the aid. Maybe it'll be block to block, but we're going to be uniform. We're going to fight them. There wouldn't have been all these civilians killed. These civilians were killed because they deliberately created a subterranean command labyrinth and the exits and entries were in these mosque and hospitals. And then they deliberately put missiles and stuff in apartment basements, just like Hezbollah. And the whole point was these are, this is a Western liberal society and it will be very careful before it does what we do. We kill civilians, we rape, we murder, we behead. But they won't do that. They will try to follow the rule and that'll put them at a disadvantage. And we have another great asset they don't have. We're not Jews. So when we have protests in the United States and Europe, we can count on latent antisemitism and Western guilt and Western champion of the romantic Che Guevara underdog type syndrome. And that's how they did it. But I don't understand how you can't see that. I'M not asking any of those people to be. There's no problem if they say, you know what? I'm an isolationist and I don't want to get involved with anybody. I'm a Pap Buchananite. I think we should. Okay, fine. But to just say that we have a cabal of donors or people here that are forcing us to support Israel. They're not forcing us yet. Most 65% of the people are support Israel. That's an amazing percentage given the propaganda that emanates here and abroad.
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Jack Fowler
By the way, last thing, I don't watch Mark Levin religiously. I catch him some Sunday nights repeat, but I can't see that he is somebody who fixates on Israel. He's usually fixating on threats to our Constitution by. By the domestic Marxists. So. And he's having you on regularly.
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Victor Davis Hanson
So, yeah, you know, he's. I think I've been on there 10 times and I don't think I've talked. I don't think I've been maybe one time on Israel. It's usually about what he writes about. Challenges to the constitutionality of something or the degration. I've talked about the degration in degraded citizenship, degraded constitution, contemporary political events. Sometimes Israel comes in. But he's not obsessed with it. I don't think he's ever really mentioned the Holocaust. Too much, maybe, but I haven't been on there. I also related an anecdote once. You know, I had a daughter who was in the Pepperdine graduate program, and they had. It was required that all. They all intern. And she interned at the Hillsdale Kirby Center. She was kind of the.
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Jack Fowler
When you walk in Washington.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yes. And you know how you walk in, there's a woman at that desk or a man, and they ask you who you are and they check your ID and then they go in and she was there. And it's right across from the Heritage center. And because it has superb audio, visual, pr, you know, every. Seems like everybody in Washington on the conservative side, at least a few years ago, who wanted to do a podcast or do an interview would use their studios.
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Jack Fowler
Right.
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Victor Davis Hanson
So my daughter Susanna was there. And so one day she met. And she always had their names, you know, because they had to tell who they were. So I, I said, wow, you must meet a lot of people. And then she would name people in the conservative movement who were really rude, you know what I mean, to her. I'm in a hurry. Don't you know who I am? I'm. Everybody knows that kind of stuff. So I said, don't. Don't concentrate on that. Just tell me the people who were very nice. So she goes, well, there's this guy named Mark Levin, and every time he comes in there, he's polite, he's nice to me. He doesn't know who I am. And then she told it that I. She was, you know, my daughter. And then he was. He was nice, but no more nice. You know what I mean? He went out of his way to be nice to her. Yeah. And he didn't have to do that. And then when she passed away, he called me. So he, he's not. I, I don't, you know, when Tucker went after him and said, he, you know, I don't understand that. I don't know why that. I saw the Ted Cruz Tucker interview. Did you see that?
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Jack Fowler
Just a tiny.
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Victor Davis Hanson
That was why. That was wild. Yeah. He was kind of quizzing Ted Cruz, but I thought they were allies at one point. Yeah. But I don't know what's happened.
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Jack Fowler
Well, we will have to leave further thoughts.
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Victor Davis Hanson
One last thing, Jack, real carefully. Did you see Steve Bannon the other day said, I thought that was a wrong thing to say. He said that Trump is planning a third. He said he's a third term.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And he said they had a plan to do it. Well, the 22nd Amendment, the only loophole on it, it says, shall not be elected president three times. You know. Right. So people have said, well, it doesn't say can't be president. So when you start to see what would be Steve Bannon's plan, the only plan that people have suggested is a surrogate would run for president like J.D. vance, just to take one, or Rubio. He would be elected, and then he would fool the American people and say, you know what? I resign and the vice president, Donald Trump on my ticket will take over. Is that going to happen? No, no, no, no, no, no. So I don't know what he was talking about. Unless he was like Trump, who, when he was elected, they go, you're run for. You're a king. He would troll him and said, I doubt it. But Trump then said unequivocally he wasn't going to do that. And, yeah, nobody in their right mind at 82 would want to be 86. You know, 82, 83, 84, 85. It's not going to happen.
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Jack Fowler
You know, I had that down for something for us to discuss on another show. So I'm not accusing you of preempting anything, but I put down, Victor. Yeah, we can talk about it. It's troubling just as a concept.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And then it is.
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Jack Fowler
I'm talking of being trolled by. By our own side, you know, on things. It's.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I think that's a really good point that right now there's so many good things that he has done. He shut the border when they said it could not be shut down. There's no such thing as comprehensive immigration. He did it. He got rid of three or four hundred thousand criminals. That's one reason the crime rate's going down. And you look at the economy. He didn't crash the economy with tariffs. He's got record revenue coming in. He's going to pump more oil and gas than anybody imagined. He has stopped. He had cease fires in seven wars abroad guy. They're in places like Aberran, Ethiopia, Egypt, Thailand, Cambodia, Serbia, Kosovo, India, Pakistan. He's making a lot of progress on the intractable Middle east. And maybe, maybe given his attention, there'll be a breakthrough next year or something in Ukraine. But all of that good stuff. Then why even have a surrogate? Why can't somebody say don't talk about that. It's a free country and we like your help, but it would be wise if you do not feed the trolls. Or I guess they call it own the libs. Why do that? Even the commercial war. It's kind of funny, but he's in a jet and he's dumping feces on everybody. Why do feces. You know what I mean? Why not drop flowers or something? It doesn't. It. It's a commission omission problem. There's so many good things they need. They need to be talking about the economy. Inflation was lower than they said. If half of the. Half of the 18, 20 trillion. He's. Trump says a foreign. Just half. Eight, 10 trillion. That would be a record. It's gonna. And when you look at AI under him and crypto and genetic engineering and robotics, we're gonna really take off. And if he can get the deficit down and start rebuilding the militaries, there's no recruitment problem. Suddenly they said, oh, 50,000 soldiers are going to be short forever. No, they're not. He saw. They solved it in two months. So I don't understand then I keep saying that why do you want to speculate about a third term? Or why do you want to have these kind of obscene videos? It doesn't make any sense.
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Jack Fowler
Well, Victor, we've talked a lot today. You've shared a ton of wisdom and I thank you for all that you have done. I want to mention what I do. One of the things I do anyway. Civil Thoughts free weekly email newsletter I write for the the center for Civil society. It has 14 recommended readings. I think you'll like it. Go to civil thoughts.com sign up for it Again, it's free. We have so many comments. These even though we've just transitioned. The viewership on YouTube is exploding. And the last. I'll read two comments that you have from your last show you recorded. I know the great Sammy Wink has recorded in studio. So you don't have to wear headphones when you're with her. So you can wear other things. So Rebecca Moore MBA writes, the fedora is back and so is the beret. Glad you are feeling better. Vdh, a national treasure. It was a great. It was a great look you and Sami had there.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Her and a beret in your fedora.
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Jack Fowler
And then one other comment again. This is from YouTube. From Internet Songs 6007. My God, I feel like a complete dummy when I listen to your education. I struggle to imagine the intellect needed to do what you have done. I thank God for people like you. You put things that are intellectually difficult and apply it to today in. Apply it in today's context and make it understandable to us plebs. What will we do when you are gone? Victor, don't go. Okay, that's. Don't go. So there were so many other comments.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I got a great comment too. I want to apologize. I talked about the P51 with its Merlin engine and liquid cool and it was a superb fighter. But there are a lot of you guys out there who are P47 Thunderbird enthusiasts and that had the Pratt Whitney double Wasp. And somebody wrote me, victor, Victor, Victor. They had 1800 horsepower. Our all American, not Packard, imitation Merlin had 2200. And the Thunderbolt Victor actually had a faster recorded speed at blank blank altitude than the Mustang. And the Mustang, yes, it had a greater range, of course, but The Thunderbird had eight.50 caliber machine guns, not six. And you could hit the liquid cooled engine of the Mustang and it went down. Not old Thunderbird, you could hit it with everything. It was indestructible. And they made almost as much 15,000 versus 60. It was a great letter. Yeah, and I'm surprised. I love Thunderbird fans out there. Thunderbolt.
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Jack Fowler
Excuse me.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, you Thunderbolt fans. Because you like the idea that the Thunderbolt represents the 1970 big Cadillac. It's just powerful. It's big. It's American. Die. Boom and shoot. Bam. And the Mustang is sort of like a Spitfire. Elegant.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
More maneuverable maybe fat. Sorry, you guys. Maybe in some altitudes faster with a British designed engine. Okay.
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Jack Fowler
But anyway, you say Thunderbirds.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Thunderbolt, people.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. Thunderbolt versus Thunderbird. Yeah, Thunderbird. I remember cousin, cousin Carl having one of those big tanks driving around the streets of the Bronx.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah. But Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt. Sorry, everybody. The Thunderbolt.
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Jack Fowler
Victor, you've been terrific. We thank you folks for listening for watching. Thanks for checking out the Daily Signal. Victor's got four times a week now he does a daily video for the Daily Signal. Do check that out. Victor Hansen.com do check that out. Thanks for your comments. Will be back soon with another episode of Victor Davis Anson in his own words. Bye Bye.
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Victor Davis Hanson
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