Best Friend Calls Me Out

Summary

VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: Best Friend Calls Me Out

Date: January 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this intimate, behind-the-scenes episode of VIEWS, David Dobrik and his regular crew (Natalie, Ferris, and Ilya) engage in a refreshingly candid conversation about their ongoing creative efforts, life and relationships, the evolution of their team, and the personal and professional dynamics that shape their unique world. Special focus is given to Ferris, a self-described behind-the-scenes guy, whose perspective brings heartfelt and sometimes hilarious insights into working with the high-energy Dobrik circle.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ferris Steps Into the Light

• David and Natalie coax their low-profile filmer/editor Ferris into joining the conversation, playing into David’s tendency to introduce behind-the-scenes collaborators to his audience.
• Notable Quote:
  “Is everybody that was behind the scenes at one point always ends up getting in front of the scenes at some point.” — Natalie [01:56]
• Ferris recounts his journey from fan to collaborator, his initial nervousness, and the welcoming team dynamic. David reflects on his habit of hiring people close to his circle, sometimes impulsively.

2. Team Origins and Creative Chemistry

• The group reminisces about Ferris’ first days working on Views, his leap of faith moving from Arizona, and the often chaotic but exciting project workflow.
• David admits to moments of creative spontaneity, comparing himself to “Mr. Never Finish Anything” from Jimmy Neutron [06:10].
• Notable Quote:
  “I get like excited about things and I’m just like...Mr. Never Finish Anything, and that feels like me sometimes.” — David [06:23]

3. Travel Stories & Seven Wonders Vlogs

• Ferris shares funny identity mishaps while traveling (people mistaking him, an Indian, for being Black), and the crew reflects nostalgically on their intensive, sometimes isolating work together visiting the Seven Wonders.
• Memorable Moment:
  David recalls sharing guesses on vlog performance while floating in a pool outside the Taj Mahal (India trip) [07:57].
• The team discusses the unique bonding and creative process during these trips, lamenting how the experience is hard to casually flaunt in real life.

4. Behind the YouTube Curtain

• Ferris offers an editor’s insight into David’s rapid, minimalist iMovie workflow, his hands-off approach to YouTube management, and the importance of analytics and thumbnail testing.
• Notable Exchange:
  “You edit so fast. Like, I don’t think people realize… I’m an editor, but you edit so fast.” — Ferris [11:16] “While I’m editing in iMovie, it’s really easy to edit fast...It’s even easier than CapCut.” — David [11:22]

5. Content Ambitions: From Vlogs to a Movie?

• Ferris pitches the idea of producing a full movie or hour-long video based on their vlogs, inspired partly by seeing “shitty movies” getting made.
• David is candid about his hesitance: concerned about costs, monetization, and logistics, especially when using copyrighted music and keeping projects creatively flexible.
• Notable Quote:
  “I wish people understood the difference between editing in iMovie… Dude, it’s even easier than CapCut.” — David [11:39]

6. The ‘Throw the Dart’ Series: The Next Big Thing?

• Ferris and the team discuss expanding their globe-dart-throwing travel series, debating frequency, feasibility, and whether it’s best suited for YouTube or a bigger platform.
• Ilya bursts in, hyped from the gym, and passionately calls on David to seriously scale up the idea:
  • “I think that it sucks. I think that it’s a hundred million dollar, if not billion dollar idea… you need to fucking get off your ass. Stop being a bitch. Seriously, both of you, honestly. And figure it out.” — Ilya [27:13]
• The group explores both the creative excitement and the daunting logistics (budgets, casting, editing pipelines). They debate maintaining an organic friend group versus hiring a fixed cast [31:01].

7. Personal Life, Relationships & Marriage

• The conversation takes a personal turn, with candid talk about commitment, marriage hesitancy, and relationship priorities from both single and partnered perspectives.
• Ferris, in a 7-year relationship himself, offers honest insight into delaying engagement for personal and financial readiness, plus the extra wrinkle of dating a wedding planner [37:13, 39:44].
• Natalie and David question modern expectations of marriage timelines:
  • “Maybe our perspective is just, like, really skewed. I also just feel like...when you get married, your relationship shouldn’t change significantly.” — Natalie [35:01]
• A running gag about David and Natalie’s “will they/won’t they” friendship (with tongue-in-cheek jokes about everyone thinking they sleep together) brings levity to these otherwise serious reflections [41:47].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On David’s creative energy around new people:
  “I want to, like, be funny around them for some reason. Like, I have like, more energy around them. I probably did that around you too.” — David [04:42]

• On the challenges of YouTube budgeting:
  “It eats the entire budget of the video. Therefore, like, Ferris wants to do an idea where...we’re like negative hundreds of thousands of dollars on a video. Which is kind of scary.” — David [19:13]

• Ilya’s no-nonsense motivation:
  “You need to fucking get off your ass. Stop being a bitch. Seriously, both of you, honestly. And figure it out.” — Ilya [27:30]

• On YouTube creative freedom:
  “YouTube’s so nice because...it’s a free platform, so people are just, like, people don’t expect much. That’s why I was so successful on YouTube, because no one’s expecting anything.” — David [28:22]

• On delaying engagement:
  “I have, like, a really good wedding. I want to have, like, a good ring. She’s also a wedding planner, so I want, you know she’s gonna have a good wedding.” — Ferris [39:44]

• About the David/Natalie rumor mill:
  “Everybody thinks you and Natalie sleep together...Even I thought about it sometime.” — Ferris [41:47]

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Highlighted Timestamps

• 01:56 — Natalie calls out David’s habit of turning staff into on-camera personalities.
• 04:42 — David admits performing more when new people join the team.
• 07:57 — Nostalgic story of guessing vlog views while floating outside the Taj Mahal.
• 11:16-11:39 — Ferris and David discuss the realities of editing vlogs so quickly.
• 18:09 — David acknowledges Ferris's big creative dreams and “ambitious ideas.”
• 27:13 — Ilya’s high-energy push for “throw the dart” travel expansion.
• 31:01 — The team debates organic vs. casted production structure.
• 35:01 — Natalie on why marriage shouldn’t radically change a relationship.
• 39:44 — Ferris explains his wedding-planner girlfriend’s high standards.
• 41:47 — Ferris addresses persistent rumors about David and Natalie.

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Tone and Style

The episode matches the hosts’ trademark blend of self-deprecating humor, candid admissions, and affectionate ribbing. Candid moments about team challenges, creative ambition, and romantic uncertainty are mixed with running jokes and a relaxed, conversational energy.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a rich, insightful primer on the inner workings—both creative and personal—of David Dobrik’s circle, particularly how evolving team dynamics and personal growth collide with big ambitions. You'll get a window into their friendships, work ethic, and the real-life problems facing creative teams in the digital era, all delivered in the playful, unfiltered style that defines VIEWS.

Transcript

[Natalie]

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[David Dobrik]

What's up, guys? Welcome back to Views. This is the Thursday episode. Sorry, guys, that was my phone playing. I'm also watching TikToks while recording this episode. I am a multitasking legend. I have Natalie here. Actually, we have a special guest, Ferris. No, Ferris doesn't wanna join first.

[Natalie]

Ferris is so weird about joining.

[David Dobrik]

I don't know why he's so weird about it first. Just. Can you grab it just for a little. Okay, just grab it. Just grab. Just grab it. Just grab. Just grab it and say that. Say that. Okay.

[Ilya]

What?

[Ferris]

I actually listen to you and I don't want to ruin the episode. I'm gonna listen back to him. Like, why the fuck did that, huh?

[David Dobrik]

This is important. You're like the most behind the scenes guy ever.

[Ferris]

I'm really behind the scenes.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. So, like, we need to bring you forward to the light. You need to explain what it's like working behind the scenes.

[Natalie]

David loves bringing everyone to the light.

[David Dobrik]

What do you mean?

[Natalie]

Is everybody that was behind the scenes at one point always ends up getting in front of the scenes at some point.

[David Dobrik]

I know. And Natalie, like, Natalie, like now, like, gives me shit for it. Natalie will be like, not everyone working for you needs to be on camera. Even though, like, that's like how Natalie, like, fucking is making $18 million a year, Natalie's like, nobody else gets to make this much.

[Natalie]

Good luck.

[Ferris]

I saw Brooke was on it too.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, Brooke was on it. Who we keep behind the scenes. Brooke is now a star no, but Ferris is here. Ferris is. Ferris is our filmer. He's. So he filmed the Seven Wonders with us and originally did the video podcast. No.

[Ferris]

Yeah. Which we are, David.

[David Dobrik]

We did the video podcast with Ferris. You were there right when we started.

[Ferris]

Right when we started.

[David Dobrik]

I'm really weird about, like, hiring people, especially when they're in the room when, like, we're being creative.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Like, I. I, like, I hate it so much. And Natalie found Ferris, and I was like, this guy, like, no, no, no.

[Natalie]

He's like, who's this weirdo?

[Ferris]

I said that.

[David Dobrik]

I'm sure I said something like that.

[Ferris]

No, you're actually really nice from day one. Like, really, really welcoming.

[David Dobrik]

It's part of the act. But when you would turn around, I'd be like, fuck him. Wait, I was nice?

[Ferris]

You were really nice.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, like, too nice.

[Ferris]

No, no, like, actually, like, you're more welcoming than, like, Natalie.

[David Dobrik]

Fucking bitch. I knew it. Wait, wait.

[Ferris]

How come.

[David Dobrik]

How come. Wait, what was our first day that we met? Where was it?

[Ferris]

It was just shooting the podcast. Oh, no, I came and you guys were. You guys were uploading the podcast.

[David Dobrik]

Oh.

[Ferris]

You know, you were uploading your video and you know how to make a thumbnail because Ellie used to make the thumbnail.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Ferris]

And then you just, like, gave me your YouTube account, like, and you're just like, can you just do it? And I was like, holy shit.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, is that what you mean by welcoming? Yeah. Is that I just let you take control because I had no idea what I was doing.

[Ferris]

Yeah, you should think about that.

[David Dobrik]

Did you. Did you watch the videos before, or did you listen to the podcast?

[Ferris]

No, I listened to every single podcast, and I watched. I got. I started in, like, college. Like, listen, watching your videos.

[David Dobrik]

Really? Yeah. I'm always worried when, like, a new person comes and, like, joins the workforce. Like, I'm like. I'm always, like, scared that, like, when they're hanging out with us, they're gonna be like, oh, they're not as fun. Did you initially. Did you initially get that? Because I feel like.

[Ferris]

No. I used to, like, laugh so much. You remember that? When you record views, I used to laugh so much. This is so funny.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, because you were there live.

[Ferris]

Yeah, I was there. Like, I had that director's chair. Oh, yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, that's so fun. I always. I always thought that, like. Like, but, like. Like, when we're not recording and stuff, I'm always like, damn, I hope they don't think we're, like, lame.

[Ferris]

Do you feel pressured to, like, perform.

[David Dobrik]

Like, when, like, there's like a new person working. Yeah, no, I have, like, I have like, when there's a new person working that I like, like, I like, want to, like, be funny around them for some reason. Like, I have like, more energy around them. I probably did that around you too. But. Yeah, so then immediately from working, we asked him. We asked him to come do the seven wonders with us, which was like the craziest risk, like several years later.

[Natalie]

But. Yeah, well, nurse has been here for like three and a half years.

[David Dobrik]

But. But, but that was a weird ask. No, because we didn't know you like that yet.

[Ferris]

No. So I, I worked on Views, then I worked with Jason. I did like, his.

[David Dobrik]

You. The pilot, the new pilot that we.

[Ferris]

All love did not do that. No. Why are you saying it's at 500,000 views now? That's amazing. I heard you dou that pilot.

[David Dobrik]

No, no, no, no. I was in full support, I think Netflix. No, he. Apparently he's selling it for a million dollars an episode or whatever. Wait, was it a million an episode? I don't think so. 100,000 an episode. God, I'm so. I have like the worst memory.

[Natalie]

I don't think anything of what you're saying right now is correct.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, sorry, continue. And then what did you do?

[Ferris]

So I did. I worked with Jason for a year. Cuz we stopped Views.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. And were you sad when we stopped the video?

[Ferris]

I was so sad because I moved from. I moved from Arizona and then three months later for Views. And three months later, David was like, you know, like, I don't want to do this.

[David Dobrik]

This is like a reoccurring thing here. Like, Ilya also moved from Illinois to be my manager. Obviously that's not the case anymore. Yeah, I think, I think I get like, really, like, I get like, excited about things and I'm just like, I don't know, there's this character in Jimmy Neutron called Mr. Never Finish Anything, and that feels like me sometimes. What?

[Natalie]

Huh?

[David Dobrik]

Okay, whatever. But yeah, okay. And then what happened?

[Ferris]

And then the same day, Jason called me and he was like, hey, do you just want to come work for me?

[David Dobrik]

And how did you feel about that?

[Ferris]

I loved. I love Jason. Yeah, he's great. And then we just started doing it for a year. And then right after that, I started working the Ilia. There was a point I was working with every single person. Like Jonah, like, everybody.

[David Dobrik]

That's crazy.

[Ferris]

Yeah. And yeah, start working with Ilya. Did the docs.

[David Dobrik]

Did the Zela docs. Which ones did you do? With him, the worst ones.

[Ferris]

I didn't do. Natalie's not least was really, really good.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, so you didn't do. Which one did you do?

[Ferris]

I did Zanes.

[David Dobrik]

Zanes.

[Ferris]

And then yours. Yeah, I just a little bit of Susie.

[David Dobrik]

Susie.

[Ferris]

Yeah, Ferris.

[David Dobrik]

Like, so far it was me, Natalie and Ilya on this trip and Ferris is like the, The. The fourth person who's recording all the seven wonder stuff with us. And it's really funny because it would just be. I remember very. First of all, Ferris. Ferris is. Is Indian. But everywhere we'd go, people would think he's black. It just. It got to the point where it wasn't even a joke anymore. When someone would be like, where's your black friend from? What would they say?

[Ferris]

They would just like, oh, in. In China, it was like, yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Everywhere.

[Ferris]

It was like. Everybody thought it was like, black.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. We wouldn't even correct them anymore.

[Ferris]

Yeah, I didn't even correct them anymore. I went to India and people. I was like, oh, I'm Indian. And they were like, what? I started speaking Hindi and they were like, what?

[David Dobrik]

Black man speaks Hindi? Yeah. And I just. I remember, like, one big memory I have with you is I remember, like, sitting in the India, like in the pool at. In Agra, like right outside the Taj Mahal. And it was just me, you and Ilya. And it was really late and we were just like. I mean, every place, we would always. We'd just be like, floating around either in pools or just like sitting on a bed somewhere and be like, you think this vlog's gonna do well?

[Natalie]

Oh, my gosh.

[David Dobrik]

We all write down guesses for how well it would think and we'd all be completely off.

[Ferris]

We just worked in the silo for like a whole year.

[David Dobrik]

What?

[Ferris]

Like, we just worked on this video for like a whole.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we worked and we just had like. No, like, I don't know.

[Ferris]

We didn't know how it was a good video or not.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. And we, like, were looking at it so much, so much. Where it was just, like, driving us crazy.

[Ferris]

But it was fun. It was really, really fun.

[David Dobrik]

No, that was. That was like. That was. I mean, that was probably the best trip I'll take in my life. I don't know. I don't know if things are going to.

[Natalie]

I mean, for sure.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. Like, I don't think you'll. You never get to see the first wonder. You never get to see all the seven wonders again for the first time.

[Natalie]

It's just the fact that you can say, like, you Went on a trip to see the seven Wonder, you know.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. And isn't that like the one big thing I thought to myself was I was like, I can't wait to be in a bar or somewhere where like a girl or somebody asked me where I can bring it up.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Dead ass. Zero times. Zero times I have brought this thing.

[Natalie]

Up because it's like weird. How do you bring that up?

[David Dobrik]

It's weird. It's weird because it's like, it's like the, it has to be. So someone literally has to be speaking about the wonders directly for you to bring it up in like a casual way where you're not just flexing.

[Natalie]

I thought about like changing my like, like a, like one of the lines in my dating profile to like something about the seven wanderers or something like.

[David Dobrik]

Oh no, that's so gross.

[Natalie]

Yeah, it's so icky.

[David Dobrik]

No, but I. The good part about it is.

[Natalie]

But it's cool.

[David Dobrik]

We do talk about it, the pot a lot. So I guess we like, we make up points there.

[Natalie]

Fair enough.

[David Dobrik]

But. But yeah, no, it has not helped me with my dating life. I really genuinely thought that it was just going to be a bunch of. Hey, what's up? Okay, Ferris, one more. What's, what's Ferris? What's one of your earliest memories from, from working here?

[Ferris]

Earliest memories?

[David Dobrik]

What's like, what's like a thing when you first started working? I don't know, I, I'm. I'm so curious your perspective on things because like, because like if I was watching something like you, how often would you, you watch like over a hundred vlogs before, would you say?

[Ferris]

Yeah, I think, I think so. Yeah, for sure.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, so let's say you watch like over a hundred bucks. Like I just find that so curious to be like I've seen this and now I'm working like crazy. What is that perspective? I'm always so. I always ask this question to everybody cuz I'm just like so curious about it.

[Ferris]

That was really crazy. I remember the first week you, you were editing a vlog. It was when you were doing like the voiceover vlogs.

[David Dobrik]

Oh yeah, yeah. And then what you hate.

[Ferris]

I mean, you know, every time I'm.

[David Dobrik]

Like this vlog needs voiceover first goes.

[Ferris]

No.

[David Dobrik]

It'S those, it's those vlogs where I go first. I woke up and I thought to myself, time to get some pizza. I just like doing those because it was so easy to connect things. But okay.

[Ferris]

And then, and then you just brought me up to your room and you like how you edit and you were like, hey, just. Come on. Just like, just watched me edit and then you showed me the vlog. You were like, what do you think?

[David Dobrik]

Sound like a little pervert. Take your clothes off.

[Ferris]

No, you were just like. You were like, asking for my opinion and I was like, this is the best vlog I've ever seen. Oh, that's really. This is crazy. Like, I'm like, seeing behind the scenes. It's pretty. And I didn't know you edited in, like, imovie. Just crazy.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, that's really funny.

[Ferris]

You edit so fast. Like, I don't think people realize, like. Like, I'm an editor, but you edit.

[David Dobrik]

So fast while I'm editing an imovie. It's really easy to edit fast. Cause I'm just like, cutting one line of like, like, based my dialogue. Like, if you. I wish people understood the difference between editing and imovie. Like, how do you. How do you do that in, like, regular people terms that anybody can understand? It's like, it's a cap cut. It's. Dude, it's even easier than cap.

[Ferris]

Way easier than capco. That's true.

[David Dobrik]

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[Natalie]

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[Ferris]

Did you make movies in high school?

[David Dobrik]

Movies?

[Ferris]

Like, did you make, like, videos in high school? Like, imovie stuff?

[David Dobrik]

The only. Yeah, yeah, I would. No, I never put things together, but, like, I would always record on my ipod touch. Like, once I got my ipod touch, it was go time. I remember, like, that's when. That's when we were like, recording stuff on the. On the bus and just like, filming Natalie, my first sex tape. Things like that. Somewhere out there, you still have the video of you Asking me to. To the dance, which I feel like would be really cool.

[Ilya]

Oh, my God.

[David Dobrik]

It's kind of crazy. I've never used that. Yeah, but I guess it wouldn't really make sense anywhere.

[Natalie]

Did I show you a video or. I just took a video.

[David Dobrik]

You took a video? Like a little pervert from a tree. Like, you put the camera up far away.

[Natalie]

Wait, really?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Of what?

[David Dobrik]

Like, I can't believe. Huh?

[Natalie]

Like a phone. I had a phone in a tree.

[David Dobrik]

No, you had a camera at the time. I don't think, like, phones were doing that.

[Natalie]

Damn.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, you know, like, mom has it somewhere. I knew one day that she just, like, masturbates to.

[Natalie]

That's weird.

[David Dobrik]

I know. She watches that video back. She's like, what could have been.

[Ferris]

Wow.

[Natalie]

Wait. I really want to find that lineage.

[David Dobrik]

Could have been so powerful.

[Natalie]

Our lineage.

[David Dobrik]

That's what your mom thinks. Your mom's dream has always been to combine with the dobriks.

[Natalie]

Oh, for sure.

[David Dobrik]

Steal all the money.

[Natalie]

Steal all the money.

[David Dobrik]

Nelly, you need to marry him. I can. The second you're married, I can flush his accounts in seconds.

[Ferris]

What would your mom do if, like, you and David actually got married?

[David Dobrik]

We were in Chicago, and I was. What did I say? I said to her, I was like, nellie and I had sex yesterday for the first time.

[Natalie]

Oh, my God. Yeah, we were, like, being weird intentionally. And we, like, told my mom. She's like, why are you guys being so weird? Or whatever. And then David was like. I was like, well, we have to, like, tell you something. Whatever. And David's like, you tell her. I'm not gonna tell her. And I was like, no, I'm not gonna say that. And then David was like, natalie and I had sex last night. And my mom was like, well, initially.

[David Dobrik]

She thought we were kidding. And then we. And then we just. We just dropped and we just kept walking. And then it kind of marinated with her. And then she was just like.

[Natalie]

She. We were, like, in the back of the pack, like, walking around the streets of Chicago, and she was like, did you actually. Natalie, did you actually have sex with him? Yeah.

[Ferris]

No.

[David Dobrik]

I don't think she'd be, like, stoked.

[Ferris]

No.

[Natalie]

No, for sure not.

[David Dobrik]

But I don't know. I also don't think she'd be, like, disappointed.

[Natalie]

I don't know.

[David Dobrik]

Really?

[Natalie]

She probably pretty, like, grossed out.

[David Dobrik]

Would she be jealous?

[Natalie]

Absolutely not. She'd be pissed.

[David Dobrik]

You don't think she'd be jealous that it wasn't her?

[Natalie]

Fuck no.

[David Dobrik]

Dude, are you sure?

[Natalie]

You annoy her. To no fucking end.

[David Dobrik]

Really. Because I. Dude, it's like vice versa. She doesn't listen to these pods, right? We have like free reign here.

[Natalie]

For sure.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, there's. There's this. We just did the sled hill at my house and. And she like wiped out on the sled hill. She went like balls to the wall on the sled hill.

[Natalie]

I know, it was like she was like. She like morphed into like a 12 year old kid.

[David Dobrik]

It was really weird.

[Natalie]

So weird.

[David Dobrik]

Like, Jen, you gotta take it easy. And she like pulled her back or something. I remember the next day I was like, I was sitting upstairs in the upstairs living room because I heard Jen downstairs. So I was just like, okay, I'm going to wait till she leaves. Because like once, once you run into Natalie's mom, it's like, I always say it's like a vortex. It's like a suction cup of voices, spirits. And it's just like, you can't avoid it. She has her own gravitational pull. And I'm sitting in the upstairs living room and I'm just listening. I'm like, okay. I think she's making her way to the car. To the car. She's. She's about to go and then she pivots upstairs to come to the printer and I'm like, I'm fucked. And I'm. And I'm sitting by the stairs. I don't have enough time to move.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

And then lo and behold, she locks with. Locks in with me. And I'm not kidding you, for 20 minutes she talks to me about. It's fucking crazy.

[Natalie]

Well, we also do such fun things. Like she comes from like, she has a pretty, like, you know, no, not dissing her or anything, but she has a very like, mundane life, you know, like, she's just like, no, I get it. At home she tends to her garden.

[David Dobrik]

I also feel like if you're listening, you're like, well, why did you sit there for 20 minutes and listen? Because like, I do talk about her. Like I would, like, I would just like turn the other cheek. But like, I'm like, I'm never, I'm never like, the only thing I'm rude to her about is like when we like make jokes.

[Natalie]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Dobrik]

But like, I would never like actively be like, Jen, like, fuck off. Even though in my head, in my head I'm just like, I'm gonna fucking kill Natalie. I'm gonna kill Natalie. Why don't you lock the door?

[Natalie]

So why don't you like sending. He's like, why is your mother here, anyway?

[David Dobrik]

But, yeah, good old gen. Anything else, Faris?

[Ferris]

So how's it been back on YouTube?

[David Dobrik]

Oh, dude, thanks for interviewing me. Ferris has all these. So Faris is like, oh, Ferris is also the guy that changes the thumbnails.

[Ferris]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Natalie]

I'm like, I don't think you need.

[Ferris]

People are gonna be like, okay, it's all thumbnails. And this audience knows. This audience definitely knows.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, okay. Ferris is also. So Ferris is also the guy that, like. Like, I don't really upload the videos anymore. I just edit them.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

And then he's managing, like, the channel. I'll give Ferris, like, three thumbnail ideas, and then he'll make them. And then YouTube will cycle through three of them, and he'll. He'll upload, he'll change the title, and.

[Natalie]

He'Ll monitor the analytics.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. Like, all that. So, like. Like, I don't have my YouTube login anymore. All I have to do is, like, deliver him the video, which is amazing. Takes a load off. And then at the same time, Ferris also has all these dreams and high hopes for the channel. He always has, like, he always. He's always pitching something new.

[Natalie]

It's very ambitious.

[David Dobrik]

He's very ambitious, and I really like that. And, like, sometimes I'll, like, won't want to make a vlog that week, and I'll literally think to myself, like, I'm just doing this one for Ferris, so. So it's very important to keep him around. Like, he. What was his last ambitious idea? About a week and a half ago, I think he watched a movie that he thought was shit. And he was like, we should make a movie, right?

[Ferris]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we watched a movie, and I was just like. Like, we make these vlogs, but they're, like, pretty good like that. Beginning and beginning, middle. And then I know you tried. You know, you think they're, like, not the best thing ever, but they're really good. They have, like, a story, I feel like.

[David Dobrik]

And there's sometimes. Sometimes they have a story. Yeah.

[Ferris]

And I feel like a lot of what's out there right now, you know, you could do that with the people that you have around you and create, like, a pretty entertaining thing.

[David Dobrik]

Like a movie.

[Ferris]

Yeah, like.

[David Dobrik]

Like, that means we obviously can't do, like, a scripted thing. But.

[Ferris]

No, not. I mean, you can.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, are you talking like. Okay. Okay, so there's two different ideas here. Are you talking about making your. What's your film idea? And then you're also talking about making, like, an hour long.

[Ferris]

Like a YouTube video.

[David Dobrik]

Like. Yeah, I just like don't know if like it's worth the squeeze there because it's like making a YouTube video. Like. Okay, so like, so like let's take Sweden for example. We did, we, we attached a brand deal to it, right? I mean obviously. And like if you don't have a brand attached to a video, like all that money from that brand deals going towards that video, like for flights, for hotels, for transportation for all our friends, like, it's a lot of fucking money to get everyone places and to like to make sure everyone's happy. It's a lot. It eats the entire budget of the video. Therefore like Ferris wants to do an idea where like it's like an hour long video and we visit X amount of places but then we can only put one brand attached to it and then we're like negative hundreds of thousands of dollars on a video. Which is kind of scary.

[Ferris]

Yeah, it's not. That's why you're not gonna make money. That's what Natalie's for, you know. But that's my just like an idea.

[David Dobrik]

Well, I would, I just like to break even on YouTube videos. Like I like the YouTube videos. The cost of the YouTube videos cost.

[Ferris]

You also don't monetize them, which is crazy. I think you're probably the biggest YouTuber who doesn't monetize their videos.

[David Dobrik]

But like I don't, I don't know how that would work like with like, with like the songs we use and things like that. Yeah, it's just like, I'm just like too lazy to like flip that switch and be like, here's 20% to the. I don't know, I just think it's like really?

[Ferris]

Would you ever make a movie?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, but I just like don't know how. I don't know how. Like, that's my problem is like everything that we shoot I have like such a vision for. And then when we get to the edit, it's like completely the opposite of what I envisioned. I'm like, oh, this isn't what I wanted at all. But I still like this. So like. And I don't think you can do that with a movie. And like I can't. Like if I sat next to. If I storyboarded with someone and I saw some things. I know. Like let's say we store storyboarded a scene in the hotel, right? There's like Natalie's Natalie, a character is having a fight with someone else in a hotel room. We'd get to the hotel and then I'd see the room right next door and I'd be like, wait, this room's better. Do you. I mean, like, those little pivots you can't do when you're shooting a film and you have like 40 people setting up. Like, when you, when you're doing a vlog, it's like, it's obviously, it's nothing like that. You're just like, what corner has the best lighting?

[Ferris]

Like, I know, but I feel like the more you make, like, maybe the first movie will be like that, but the second one.

[David Dobrik]

No, I know. I think that's what I'm scared of. I'm just so scared of making, like a really, really shitty movie. Looking to create the bath you've always dreamed of without all the hassle. The Home Depot makes it easier. Shop fully styled rooms and curated collections to bring your vision to life. Use digital tools to preview flooring and finishes in your space and get everything you need, from tubs to tile, delivered fast and priced right. The Home Depot dream bath sports built here. But we did have this idea with Ferris that I really like. That's like a reoccurring. Like, I. I wish we had like a series on. We've talked about this on the. I think we've. Have I talked about this on the pod about. No, we. Okay, we. We were on the boat. We're in. We're still in Cebu, by the way. We're in Philippines. We're on the boat. We were talking about, like, what we can do on this chat on the channel. And, And I think a really good idea would be to continue the dart series. Like, I really like every vlog or every other vlog or once a vlog or once a month, whatever. I don't know what it is, starting with us throwing a dart and then having to go to that location. I think it's just so fun. I think that's like such an easy plugin for like, anything. I think it gives you, like, a purpose to, to be at a place. I think, like, you can have celebrities join on dart trips. I think there's like a lot of. I don't know. And I also think, like, explaining it to brands could be very simple, so people would be on board. And that's very important to make the videos better because more money from brands, like, the more things we can do in a video. Someone, Someone messaged me the other, like, because I. Because I was talking about connecting videos to brands and they're like, why just not do a Video with a brand. I'm like, well, because it's cost like a hundred thousand dollars, which is a lot of money. Yeah, it's a lot. And it's like, why? Why is it a lot of money? Cuz like you watch the video and I don't think you see that. Do you see that?

[Ferris]

You definitely see that.

[David Dobrik]

Really?

[Natalie]

Like, you see like how. Because you don't get the little like details of like flights, hotels, meals, things like that, that tables, bottle service, like all the little things that we're doing that you don't realize in the background is like adding up to be a lot of money.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, okay, I guess, I guess that's. I guess that's true.

[Ferris]

But in travel, but like at home, like, you know that the snow hill.

[Natalie]

Oh yeah, that for sure. People realize.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, like the things like this. Oh, you think people realize that that costs money.

[Natalie]

I don't think you understand how much money that costs, but it's obvious.

[David Dobrik]

It's also because we live in la. Can we talk about how much the snow hill was? Or is that just like outrageous? Like we shouldn't even say that number. I don't even think we should say that number. No.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I don't think it's necessary.

[David Dobrik]

There's a lot. Yeah, yeah. I think it's like way more than you should be paying for a snow hill.

[Natalie]

Oh, we also, David had the idea for the snow hill 24 hours before we made the snow hill.

[David Dobrik]

Correct.

[Natalie]

Which means the price tripled.

[David Dobrik]

The price is a lot. Yeah, but. And we live in la, so like it's not like getting someone in. I don't even know where that like, I assume like in Texas for them to build you like a snow hill, like a bunch of probably half the.

[Natalie]

Price labor is like, yeah, labor in.

[David Dobrik]

LA and everybody like, and people charge for a production project like just out the ass more. You need a whole production team to be doing something like that. So yeah, so it all costs a lot. So that's why everything needs to be paired with a brand.

[Ferris]

Is there a idea that you have that you haven't done? Because it costs like a lot, a lot of money that you're just like waiting for, you know, an opportunity like that.

[David Dobrik]

You're like, oh, if I, I don't know, I've always.

[Ferris]

$10 million I would do this.

[David Dobrik]

No, I don't think so. I don't think like, like, like obviously going to space is like, for some reason feels like a YouTuber's like dream. I just think like that's so Funny, like, stepping on like a different planet would be really cool.

[Ferris]

So funny.

[David Dobrik]

But why, why is that funny?

[Ferris]

I mean, just like Ilya and you.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, no, it'd be amazing. But I don't know. No, I don't know. Like what? Like we had an idea that's been like, kind of like halted by money. It's not like that. It's not like we need, it's like, it's, it's, it's ideas, like going to a bunch of countries at once. Like, I love the idea of, like, I like the idea of like, for my 30th, for my 30th year on this planet, I wanted to live in a different city for a full month. So like Philippines, I live there for a month. Dubai, live there for a month. South Korea, live there for a month and make one video per month. And that would be like, to do really, really, really, really nicely would be really expensive. It's like, that's something that would be like really cool to do. Also to do. I would love, if I had unlimited money, I'd love to do a video a week. Like, I'd love to be able to travel with like a big group of people and go and go somewhere every week. I think that would be the coolest. Guys, Ilya's here. What happened?

[Ilya]

Nothing happened. I've just been thinking about your idea.

[David Dobrik]

For which one?

[Ilya]

About your throw the dart at the globe.

[David Dobrik]

We were just talking about that. That's like literally the perfect transition.

[Ilya]

Really? Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

You just walked in.

[Ilya]

Yeah. So I think that it sucks. I think that it's a hundred million dollar, if not billion dollar idea, and I think that's.

[David Dobrik]

Grab a mic. What? Wait, what's going on?

[Ilya]

Why is that funny?

[David Dobrik]

Well, I thought you were gonna shit on it. You still are gonna on it. I don't know.

[Ilya]

Absolutely not. I think it's one of the best ideas that we've ever had. I think that, and I think that if you do this, it will change the course of your life along with other people's lives. I'm dead serious. And I think that you need to, you need to take every actionable fucking possible when you get home. No more kindergarten shit.

[David Dobrik]

I'm.

[Ilya]

I'm dead serious. You need to fucking, you need to go out, you need to hire a cast, you need to pay that cast. You need to like take this seriously.

[David Dobrik]

You don't want to do this.

[Ilya]

I don't want to do it. Well, regardless of whether I do it or not.

[David Dobrik]

Right, right.

[Ilya]

I'm saying that you 1000%. You need to do it. You need to fucking get off your ass. Stop being a bitch. Seriously, both of you, honestly. And figure it out.

[Ferris]

Hey, sick.

[David Dobrik]

I think what just happened at the gym where you.

[Ilya]

I mean, I'm just always pumped up after the gym. I'm always on a high.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, explain.

[Ilya]

I was just. I don't know. I just have these thoughts while I'm on the treadmill, and I'm like. I'm thinking to myself, like, this is. No one's doing this. You have the perfect personality for. You have the perfect platform for it. Like, you just need to put a few puzzle pieces in place, and then you'll fucking. You'll fire off, dude. Fire off.

[David Dobrik]

How often would a series like this happen?

[Ilya]

The thing is, I want to say once a week, but, like, I want.

[David Dobrik]

To say that, you know, I mean.

[Ilya]

That'S a lot for once a week. And I feel like maybe this is too early to say this, but I feel like it almost doesn't belong on YouTube.

[David Dobrik]

No, I think it does. YouTube. So nice. Because, like, you. Because it's free platform, so people are just, like. People don't expect much.

[Ilya]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

That's why I was so successful on YouTube, because no one's expecting anything. So it's like you just do the bare minimum and people. Right, okay, this is better than.

[Ilya]

I get that. Let's say. Let's just play it out. Let's say it's once a week. The logistics of that would be crazy. And you'd have to probably shoot a ton beforehand. Right. You wouldn't be able to do alive.

[David Dobrik]

I think you'd maybe have to be, like, a week in advance, just to be fair.

[Ilya]

Probably, like a few in advance, I think.

[David Dobrik]

And you need, like, three editors, and you need, like.

[Ilya]

Yeah. The only thing about in advance, which sucks, is that you can't really, like. There's no energy about, like, doing it live. What I'm trying to say is, like, it's. It's not as fun doing it, like, recording and then posting. It's more fun, like, kind of like posting as you go.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, I agree.

[Natalie]

Everyone's in it. But my only concern with it being on YouTube is just like, budget.

[Ilya]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, that's. That's what we kind of just ran into is like, who pay? Who pays for.

[Ilya]

Well, I think you. I think you, like, put a proper pitch together. You go out to, like, investors, and you're like, this is what we want to do. You should take a chunk of it and fucking run with it. Francisco is one of them.

[David Dobrik]

Francisco. Francisco, Un.

[Ilya]

He's like, you've pitched me 14 ideas.

[David Dobrik]

Since I've been here. Okay, all right. Okay, I understand.

[Ferris]

Yeah, I love this, Ilya. This is great. Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

But you understand you have to be part of it.

[Ilya]

Yeah, I. I don't see. I don't see for yet how. Because, like, it really jeopardizes the thing that I'm trying to do, which is build my own platform, you know, and my own.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, but, like, how can my own brand. How can those not be built simultaneously?

[Ilya]

Because it. It takes so much energy. Like, even though you don't think it does, it takes so much energy and effort to do the things that you want to be doing, which is awesome. But, like.

[David Dobrik]

But like, your brand. Your brand could be, like, working. Like, you can have a person that's doing, like, the back end.

[Ilya]

We should talk about this off the podcast. This is a very long conversation, really. Long story short, regardless of whether I do it or not. I'm not saying I'm not doing. I'm saying regardless of whether I do or not, do. You should 1000% pursue this thing that you have. It's. I feel like the first time in a very long time we've had an idea that actually, like, that's actually good and can, like, spark something new and have energy and, like, have new people around it and, like, just reignite your whole fucking. Your. The people that you would hire would eventually become your friends. Taylor being an example, Ferris being an example. Like, you know, you pay these people and they're your friends around you, and I think the same thing will go for cash.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, I'll agree with you. Up until the hiring thing. I think. I think that completely ruins the whole thing.

[Ilya]

I think that's where you lose it. I think that's exactly where you lose it. We. Where you start. You start. It will never work if you're always like, ken, Zane, come. Can this person come?

[David Dobrik]

I think you could, like, figure out a way to pay Zane. I just. I don't.

[Ilya]

Okay, sure.

[David Dobrik]

I don't think. I don't think you're gonna hold an audition and you're gonna be like, who can join us on these trips?

[Ilya]

Sure. I think what I'm saying is it has to be more solidified and, like, no more guessing, you know, we just need one person. I don't think you need one. I think you need, like.

[Ferris]

We just need.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, yeah, we just see it. We literally need Ilya.

[Ilya]

Yeah, Yeah, I don't know about that, but I'm just saying you need.

[David Dobrik]

I mean, we truly just only need you.

[Ferris]

You know how much we would get done if you were here more.

[David Dobrik]

And I feel like you weren't, like, a bitch about it. Okay.

[Natalie]

And he's leaving.

[David Dobrik]

That's enough. I have heartburn. The meat's still coming back up. What else do you think about on the treadmill?

[Natalie]

Well, I'm just curious. Wait, why do you think that this is such, like, just because this is, like, a unique. The first unique idea that he's had in, like, quite some time that could be, like, easily replicated. Is that why you're, like, so gun.

[Ilya]

Like, I think we're already halfway there, right? Like, we're kind of already doing it and just.

[David Dobrik]

We only did one. We did Sweden.

[Ilya]

No, but I'm saying, like, you've ignited your engine to post YouTube videos. Like, that was a good first step. And then we did this throw. That was a good second step. And then you had the idea. That was good. Like, I feel like things are a little bit emotional. You just have to tweak a few things here and there and then, like, really build a machine, systemize and fucking do it. Like, that's what I'm saying. Okay, but listen, if, you know, if you're not a gung ho about it, obviously.

[David Dobrik]

No, I'm gung ho. I just like the opinion, like, the. Just, like, it's.

[Ilya]

It's a lot of work. Like, that's the thing. It's like, you. You really have it also.

[David Dobrik]

It also probably needs to be once a week and it needs to be in seasons.

[Ilya]

I agree. I think. I can't.

[David Dobrik]

It can't possibly be all year round. 24, 7. It just sounds illegal. It needs to be, like, three months on, three months off, and have, like.

[Natalie]

I feel like guests, like, guest people guesting and, like, coming on trips.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[Ilya]

Package it, like, really, really nicely.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, I think that'd be cool. Would you leave your girlfriend for me? Be honest with me.

[Ilya]

Like, if you turn gay. No, sorry. If I turn gay because I'm already gay.

[David Dobrik]

No, no, no. Like, let's say. Let's say I gave you an ultimatum and I was like, listen, dude, it's her or me. What would you do? It'd be 50 50, right?

[Ilya]

If it's her or me.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, like, and I'd be like, don't worry, like, you can have sex with me. So, like, you're not missing out on.

[Ilya]

I mean, like, if you're putting it that way, probably her.

[David Dobrik]

Okay. It's interesting.

[Ilya]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

So you'd have me Executed.

[Ilya]

Well, if you're asking about execution her.

[David Dobrik]

Okay. That's a question that doesn't really have.

[Ilya]

I don't know. That's, like, hard.

[David Dobrik]

When do you want to get married?

[Ilya]

I don't know. Emma. She's going to business school for two years. She's about to go to business school, So I think I have at least. At least two years.

[David Dobrik]

So it's an interesting way to look at it.

[Ilya]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

When she's done with that, you'll be like, you should get your PhD. You should really go all the way and just figure this thing out. Take six more years. I don't know.

[Ilya]

It's, you know, obviously kind of scares me.

[David Dobrik]

I get really confused why people get scared about marriage. Am I, like, missing something?

[Ilya]

Like, it's the last thing you, like, you know, that's your.

[David Dobrik]

That's your final. Your ultimatum.

[Ilya]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

That's like your, like, if. But, like. Like, if you're with somebody, like, take our friend John Julia. Right. I could talk about this. I feel like, because they both don't want to do it, so it's not, like, leaning towards anything, but neither of them want to get engaged because they both think it's like, they're both in the wrong spot right now for different reasons in their heads. But they've been together for, like, what, five years now?

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

So in my head, I'm just like, guys, it's just gonna be you two. It feels like. And, like, I obviously don't know the ins and outs of a relationship, but, like, is that. How do you take that?

[Natalie]

No, I feel the same way.

[David Dobrik]

It's like, you're already there.

[Natalie]

Yeah. But maybe our perspective is just, like, really skewed. I also just feel like. Like, to me, I don't feel. I don't feel like when you get married that your relationship should change significantly, you know? Like, I don't think that maybe you move in together if you haven't already, and, like, that's a big change. But otherwise, like, I feel like you should still have, like, that, like, whatever you guys were doing when you were 20, you should still be doing when you're 40, you know?

[David Dobrik]

No. 100%. But I wonder if it's like, do you think it's because people want to save marriage for, like, when they're both, like. Because, like. Okay, so the only thing I compare marriage to is, like. Like, let's say you're, like, really, like, hooking up. Like, let's say you're hooking up with a girl and you want to take it slow rather than, like, just the first night, like, have sex or whatever. Is that what marriage is? It's like the last step of this, like, emotional bond, but people want to save it for, like, the apex moment. Like, years, Years, Years down the line. Like, is that what it is?

[Natalie]

Maybe.

[David Dobrik]

Because that's how I could justify it in my head. Obviously, a lot of people aren't not ready for marriage for a really long time. I'm just, like, always so curious.

[Natalie]

I also think, like, I think, like, for myself, I'm pretty secure in a lot of the other aspects of my life, other than, like, my romantic relationship. Like, that's the only other thing. So I'm just like, yeah, fuck it. Like, let's just, you know.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. You said, like, the next person you're gonna date, you're gonna marry.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I would think so.

[David Dobrik]

That's like, crazy. How long do you think you'll date him for before?

[Natalie]

I don't know. I don't care.

[David Dobrik]

Just do it.

[Natalie]

I mean, I'm not gonna be like, oh, one month. I love you so much, let's get married. Like, I'm still a realist, but damn, I don't. Like, I'm at a point now, and I've had so many relationships and I've met so many people in my life that I feel like I know. I know my red flags and I know my green flags, and I know, like, what I want and I know what I definitely do not want first.

[David Dobrik]

How long have you been married or engaged or fucking to your relationship?

[Ferris]

What are you?

[David Dobrik]

Who are you? What's your name?

[Ferris]

Yeah, I've been in a relationship for seven years.

[David Dobrik]

The perfect person to ask. That's crazy. You've been in a relationship seven years?

[Ferris]

Well, 2019 and. Yeah, 2026. Yeah, seven years.

[Natalie]

Wow.

[David Dobrik]

Wow. Okay, so what's going on, dude? The fuck is up?

[Ferris]

No, I know what you mean. I feel like it's. I feel like it's a lot of different factors. Like, I think each person has, like. I think Ilya is. What I think is, like, you want to, like, you know, establish everything and then move on to the next chapter. Because pretty much like a chapter thing, you're done with business and everything. You figured out the finances, what you want to do, and then you just want to focus on relationship.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, I did, like, how Natalie put it, Like, Natalie secure an XYZ thing. So, like, so she has the energy and time to focus on, like, on just the relationship part of her life. So that kind of makes sense. So then what's your excuse.

[Ferris]

Exactly. Same.

[David Dobrik]

Same. Yeah, like you're growing your business and you want to lock that in.

[Ferris]

We have this dart idea for the next year.

[David Dobrik]

You blame that proposing baby. It's gonna be another two years. Ilya just came in super passionate about it after the gym, so it's gonna be longer than we expected.

[Natalie]

See, for me, like, when I, like, have friends that have been in relationships for so long and, like, sorry, Faris, nobody, like, the person doesn't want to, like, pull the trigger on an engagement or whatever, I'm like, oh, there's probably, like, if that were me and I was Faris's mouth.

[Ferris]

What the fuck?

[David Dobrik]

Sorry, Farris, but I'm gonna come at you and your whole relationship right now.

[Natalie]

Okay, okay, sorry. Let me describe for me if I'm in a relationship. Okay? For me, if I'm in a relationship with somebody, I think for.

[Ilya]

I hope not.

[Natalie]

Okay, so for me, if I'm in a relationship with somebody, how are you guys?

[David Dobrik]

How are you.

[Natalie]

Putting me on?

[David Dobrik]

You guys see the New Avengers trailer?

[Ferris]

It's so good.

[David Dobrik]

So good. This is the one I think that's gonna, like, really bring us back.

[Ilya]

Oh, my God, we should have gone to those whales today.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, we should have seen the whales stop.

[Natalie]

Okay, I'm onto something. Let me enlighten the people.

[David Dobrik]

For you. It's.

[Natalie]

If you're, like, with somebody for two to three years and you're still having this hunch, whether it's the guy or the girl or whatever, like, if you're not like, oh, I'm gonna marry the. Out of this person. Like, there's. There's, like, an inkling of something that's happening that's, like, holding you back. And I. So that's, like, a lot.

[David Dobrik]

I do agree with that. That. That. That's why I get confused because I'm like, well, how are you three years in? And.

[Natalie]

Yeah, and. But I think that there's, like, some sort of, like, weighing of prose and cons. It's like, okay, well, I don't really know if I'm, like, 100 in on this person. There's, like, 10 of me, but, like, can I deal with that 10? And just.

[David Dobrik]

I don't think that's the argument that, like, Ferris is giving. Right.

[Ferris]

I think mine is like, I have, like, a really good wedding. I want to have, like, a good ring.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, okay.

[Ferris]

That I think.

[David Dobrik]

I think that's where.

[Ferris]

She's also a betting planner, so I want, you know she's gonna have a good wedding.

[David Dobrik]

Wow. Is she Gonna plan her own wedding?

[Ferris]

Yeah, she's gonna do the whole wedding, so.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, that's. So how often do you guys talk about marriage?

[Ferris]

She talks a lot.

[Natalie]

I'm sure it's every day.

[Ilya]

Oh, brother.

[David Dobrik]

The idea can't hold you over that long. Yeah, okay, but, but, but yours, you're.

[Ferris]

A little different too. You need to be in the relationship.

[David Dobrik]

I understand, dude.

[Ferris]

You have to be in the relationship. I feel like you'd be a great boyfriend and then husband and then father and stuff.

[David Dobrik]

Celia.

[Ferris]

But I feel like it's very different when you're in a relationship versus when you're not. Right, Ilya?

[David Dobrik]

Like, it's like, it's easier to just like, say a bunch of things.

[Ferris]

Yeah, it's a night. Yeah, it's night and day difference.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, okay, I understand. Well, I guess one day maybe I'll have the perspective of being in a relationship and I'll tell you guys all about it.

[Natalie]

It's so crazy you've gone this long without being in a relationship.

[David Dobrik]

I live in fucking la, dude.

[Natalie]

That's bullshit, bro.

[David Dobrik]

It's not bullshit, Natalie. I'm like, I am. I have been, I'm telling you.

[Natalie]

Yeah, but like, don't you just, like, seek companionship, like, in any capacity?

[David Dobrik]

I had love companionship, dude.

[Natalie]

I guess your friends really, like. Yeah, they've kind of fucked you in that regard because. Not fucked you, but like.

[David Dobrik]

No, they have a hundred percent fucked me. Yeah, that's. I'm telling you, I was. I said this on the pod, right? I was hanging out with a girl and she. That's nice to talk about this. Ferris, have you listened to the recent pods? Hanging out with this girl and she's like, I think I have talked about this.

[Ferris]

What's the story?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, she was just saying, like.

[Natalie]

Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.

[David Dobrik]

No, but she was just saying, like, it's. It's like there's. There's almost no place for like a woman to fill your role because, like.

[Natalie]

Well, everything's taken care of.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, like, everything's taken care of and fulfilled.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

Wow.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. She's like, you have your friends, you live with your friends, you have like, you have an assistant who, like, takes care of things around the house. You have like a manager who's your best friend, who's also a girl, and it's like, you also have sex with your manager. So it's like, there's that. What'd you say? I have an assistant after that. Oh, okay. Yeah. Takes care of the house. So, yeah.

[Ferris]

So.

[David Dobrik]

No. But yeah.

[Ferris]

You know, everybody thinks you and Natalie sleep together.

[Natalie]

Of course.

[David Dobrik]

Of course. Of course. I would think that, too.

[Natalie]

People that are, like, close to me are like.

[Ferris]

And I'm like, even I thought about it sometime.

[David Dobrik]

Really?

[Ferris]

Like, no, like, not anymore, obviously. I thought Ilya and Natalie would be a thing.

[Ilya]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. David and Allie, definitely.

[David Dobrik]

Fuck. Ilya is still convinced.

[Natalie]

I heard it's important. I've been there.

[David Dobrik]

You've heard it.

[Ilya]

I've definitely heard some going on.

[David Dobrik]

What does it sound like?

[Ilya]

I mean, you don't want to hear gorilla noises, bro, up in your room. I don't know if it's her or you.

[David Dobrik]

Natalie, shut up. He's going to hear you. I love this. Natalie, shut up.

[Natalie]

Can you imagine?

[David Dobrik]

All right, guys, well, that's all the time we have for his podcast. This has been a thrill. We have to go and enjoy the rest of sau. It's our last day here, then we go to Manila and then we go to Dubai. So thank you for listening to the podcast and we'll see you guys for the next one. Bye, Dubai.