Best Way to Cheat

Summary

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VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: Best Way to Cheat
Date: April 1, 2026

Overview

This episode of VIEWS sees David Dobrik at the helm alongside regular guests Natalie and John (with Jason Nash absent). In typical fashion, the episode blends lighthearted arguments, personal anecdotes, and plenty of behind-the-scenes humor. The trio dives into their recent group trip to Bali, tales of adolescent cheating in school, reflections on teamwork and friendship, luxury hotel reviews, and even a detour into wild psychedelic theories—all while maintaining their casual, witty banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Team Dynamics, Banter & Role Clarity

[01:07-04:07]

• David opens by ribbing Natalie about her commitment and self-care habits, prompting playful bickering.
• Natalie insists on being recognized as David's business partner rather than a subordinate, which leads to some recurring in-jokes about power dynamics and their partnership.
  • Quote:
    • Natalie: “I want you to take that shit back right the fuck now before I come over there and smack you right now.” (02:21)
    • David: “I wanna hear you say— I wanna hear you go, ‘I’m your partner, bitch.’” (02:51)
• John plays mediator, mostly staying out of the fray but chiming in when asked.

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Behind the Scenes: New Vlogging Style & Audience Expectations

[05:24-06:33]

• David hints at experimenting with a new vlog format for their Bali trip but admits the transition is tough (“Change is hard for me, that’s all…”), and "don't expect anything crazy."
• The gang briefly discusses perfectionism and creative anxiety.

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Bali Trip Recap: Experiences, Challenges, and Highlights

[06:33-13:35, 15:03-17:17, 26:37-37:36]

The Bali Belly Plague

• David’s travel hypochondria is center stage; he’s preoccupied with the threat of “Bali belly” (digestive troubles from local water/food).
  • Quote:
    • David: “The thought of getting Bali Belly consumed every single minute of my day.” (06:58)
• Everyone except Natalie succumbs to varying degrees of food poisoning (“I was the only place Natalie doesn't diarrhea is Bali.” 07:29).

Cost of Living & Expat Stories

• The group marvels at the low living costs: a friend lived in Bali for a year on $20,000; another pays $4,000 a year in rent.
• David reflects on the lifestyle: “One of the cheapest places, which is incredible. Like, a dollar can get you really, really far.” (09:19)

Fantasy Weddings & Group Travel

• Natalie fantasizes about a “friend honeymoon” in Bali after her wedding, joking about inevitable stomach issues.
  • Quote:
    • Natalie: “Now I have this new thing where I'm like, it'd be so fun to have my wedding and then take, like, a group friend honeymoon…” (10:38)

Hospitality & Luxury at Nihi Sumba Hotel

[27:07-37:36]

• Rave review of Nihi in Sumba, a boutique hotel known for top-tier personalized service.
  • David: “Possibly the nicest hotel I’ve ever stayed at in my entire life.” (27:12)
• Assigned personal caretakers go the extra mile—anticipating preferences, running errands, and even acting as on-demand ball boys during a game.
  • Quote:
    • “He already got them delivered to my room. Because he noticed how much I preferred them…” (29:06)
• Details about the extreme hospitality, activities (horseback riding on the beach, spear fishing), and steep prices ($15-20k a night for premium rooms).
  • Natalie: “It's like a once in a lifetime experience kind of hotel.” (31:56)
  • David: “The service is, like, crazy. I’ve never seen anything like it.” (31:13)
• On airport logistics: Hotel staff ensure door-to-room baggage delivery and even offer helicopter pickups.

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Nostalgia & Childhood Stories

[18:43-22:53, 37:36-41:35]

School Days, Cheating, and Grades

• Lighthearted debate about their high school GPAs turns into honest admissions about cheating:
  • John recalls clumsy cheating attempts and being caught in Spanish class (“That was my one and only time I ever cheated, and I got caught for it. So I was like, you know what? Cheating's not for me.” 22:53)
  • David brags about his prolific cheating and the creativity involved:
    • “Cheating was my— it was all fair game... I highly recommend it. I think cheating is the best. I think, like, it makes you stronger.” (23:46)
• John grumbles about the injustice of working hard to get lower scores than David, who skated by via clever shortcuts.

Carnival & Renaissance Fair Memories

• The crew swaps childhood stories: David tells how he lost friends’ money trying to win a (rigged) bucket ball game at a fair, hoping to score a PlayStation.
  • “It's crazy how you think as a kid. So, yeah, so I lost that and then I had to run back two miles to beg my parents for money…” (40:23)

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Psychedelics, Science, and Speculation

[41:38-46:32]

• David introduces a wild "green laser experiment" linked to DMT use: supposedly, people on psychedelics could “see through walls” when looking at a flared laser beam, and even see changing codes.
  • David: “They had them do psychedelics and they had them look at the laser and all of them could see through the wall.” (44:40)
• A tangent about acquiring real DMT from a “75-year-old band member” and the myth of kissing toads.
• Laughter and confusion ensue as the group tries (and fails) to find the right words to describe what the experiment proves, ending in mocking self-reference to future “Star Wars-style” DMT journeys.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Partnership (02:51):
  David (to Natalie): “I wanna hear you say— I wanna hear you go, ‘I’m your partner, bitch.’”
• On Cheating (23:46):
  David: “Cheating was my— it was all fair game… If you knew how to cheat, you know how to play the game. It's all part of it… I highly recommend it. I think cheating is the best. I think, like, it makes you stronger.”
• On Bali Belly (06:58):
  David: “The thought of getting Bali Belly consumed every single minute of my day.”
• On Nihi Sumba Hotel Service (29:06):
  David: “He already got them delivered to my room. Because he noticed how much I preferred them [the water bottles]…”
• On Psychedelic Experiments (44:40):
  David: “They had them do psychedelics and they had them look at the laser and all of them could see through the wall.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Team bickering & partnership – 01:07–04:07
• Bali trip: health anxieties & adventures – 06:33–13:35
• Cost of living, expat tales – 09:23–11:11
• High school cheating confessions – 18:43–24:35
• Luxury hotel review (Nihi Sumba) & world-class hospitality – 27:07–37:36
• Carnival/renaissance fair misadventures – 37:36–41:35
• Green laser DMT experiment & psychedelic tangent – 41:38–46:32

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains David and the crew’s trademark fast pace, irreverence, and self-deprecating humor. Storytelling is informal and peppered with vivid, comedic detail, with frequent asides and inside jokes that underline the group's longstanding chemistry.

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For New Listeners

This episode spotlights everything typical of VIEWS: raucous friendship, candid confessions, ridiculous travel stories, and left-field curiosity. You’ll leave knowing more about luxury Indonesian travel, David’s proud cheating legacy, Natalie’s quest for recognition, and far-out psychedelic experiments—plus a few new ways to laugh about your own adolescence.

Transcript

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[Natalie]

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[David]

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[David]

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[David]

What's up guys? Welcome back to View. No Jason Nash today. Just here with the idiots.

[Natalie]

It's me, Natalie.

[David]

I'm so sorry. She's here. And John. Hello. I love John. I really do.

[Natalie]

Oh, that's so nice of you, John.

[David]

You're my favorite. Natalie's just an incompetent skin. Something.

[Natalie]

David loves to project his own insecurities onto me.

[David]

No, the things that he actually thinks about himself. Honestly, I feel like I've done everything today and you've just sat around. Natalie chooses the busiest days to get all her self work and self reflection. She's meditated. She's got her blood drawn today. She's gotten her nails clipped. She's gotten a complete hair done. Like we're going to the Snappy Awards and she's getting ready like we're going to the Met gala.

[Natalie]

I blow dried my hair for 22 minutes.

[David]

You had a makeup artist come.

[Natalie]

No, I didn't. You dramatic little liar.

[David]

Yeah, well, I'm not lying at all. That was also.

[Natalie]

I went to bed at 5:30 in the morning.

[David]

Like, listen, I don't want to fight

[Natalie]

and well, we're fighting.

[David]

I don't want to fight.

[Natalie]

And I had all this stuff planned today accordingly. But you like to change things the night before. And then I have to move everything in my life.

[David]

It just feels like. It feels.

[Natalie]

And I did. I. I just. I moved everything to do it here.

[David]

It feels like you're not team player sometimes. That's.

[Natalie]

That's insane. I want you to take that shit back right the fuck now before I come over there and smack you right now.

[David]

I'm being serious. But I do say a lot of things about you.

[Natalie]

You want me to hit you? That's what's happening.

[David]

There are things I say about you. Where. I'm kidding. Like, I was mad at you today. Today I'm actually mad.

[Natalie]

Oh, amazing. I was also mad at you, so I guess it's neutral.

[David]

No, because my. My outrage outpowers you.

[Natalie]

It doesn't, actually. Yeah, I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna throw right back at you.

[David]

No. Cause I'm the boss. I'm the CEO.

[Natalie]

No, that's not how this shit works.

[David]

I wanna hear you say. I wanna hear you go, I'm your partner, bitch.

[John]

I love that.

[David]

It's my favorite.

[Natalie]

It's so weird that you laugh at that.

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[Natalie]

In this. You realize, right? Like, we're partners.

[David]

Yeah, No, I get it. We're partners. Okay.

[Natalie]

Thank you.

[David]

I mean, I don't know why I

[Natalie]

have to beg for that. It's like the weirdest thing ever. I mean, it's like, how could you possibly. John, Shake your head side to side. Like it's even up for debate.

[David]

Wait, hold on.

[John]

I'm just here, man. I'm doing anything.

[David]

You're moving. You're not Mic. You have to. You're part of the. You're part of the court that's being held here. I mean, like, partner, for sure. No, we're for sure. Like we're partners in crime. Like we're doing it together. Yeah, but, like, are we OG startups? Like, are.

[Natalie]

You know, I mean, honestly. Yeah, I'm the one that fucking put you on vine, bro.

[John]

Yeah, I see it this way.

[Natalie]

I started this career 15, 20 years ago.

[David]

You have so much of your mother inside you, it's crazy. David's notice about. Cause you know what? Natalie's mom. Natalie's mom to her goes, you wouldn't have any of this stuff with Disney if it wasn't for you.

[Natalie]

Obviously, my mom genuinely in her heart of hearts, believes that. I obviously don't think that your entire career is credited to me.

[David]

No, I know.

[Natalie]

I do think that I've been helpful for sure.

[David]

No, no, you've been very, very helpful. I just like to hear you say partner, because I think it's. I think it's funny. You have been very helpful, though.

[Natalie]

Well, this is actually a great segue.

[David]

Oh, great.

[Natalie]

For what I would love to discuss.

[David]

Alright, go. You want a raise?

[Natalie]

I don't need a raise.

[David]

And more vacation days.

[Natalie]

Thank you.

[David]

What is it?

[Natalie]

I already fought for my raise and I am set on that one. No, I just think. I just think that we should make an effort to be, you know, to not necessarily, like, make me. We should try to make me look like. Uplift me and elevate me as the businesswoman that I aspire to be.

[David]

I'm gonna start doing that as soon as you start uplifting John. What? Yeah. First of all, more credit to John.

[Natalie]

I don't do anything about John.

[David]

What?

[Natalie]

Yeah, you're the problem when it comes to.

[David]

I love. First of all, John is. We know why he's a hire because he's the best. John was changing a light bulb the other day, and Natalie sends me a picture of John changed his light bulb. And she goes, that's $2,200 a week. That right there.

[Natalie]

Okay, dude, first off, it's really funny.

[David]

Yeah, John. So pick your side. Pick your side. Pick your side. Who's. Whose side you're on, huh?

[John]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nat.

[Natalie]

No, I love having you around. Yes.

[David]

No, I understand it. I get it, I get it. Guys, we just got back from Bali. It's been a good trip.

[Natalie]

Rate it out of 10.

[David]

Wait, it is kind of interesting how we like, transition out of like fighting, isn't it? Like, we're just gonna move on.

[John]

You just move on.

[David]

We just got tired. I think it's funny because, like, we like, now we'll like, we'll have like an argument on camera. Oh, we're. We'll have like an argument now we have like a filmer to try to film the vlog. Yeah, we're like, experimenting with this new vlog style. I don't know if I love it, guys, if I'm being completely honest with you.

[Natalie]

Classic David.

[David]

Classic me.

[Natalie]

Can never stick to anything. Commitment issues.

[David]

We've gotten the footage back and it's. It's. Change is hard for me, that's all. I think I'm not. I think it's not. It's not done yet, so I can't judge it. It's just the audio is different, the cameras differ and it spooks me, that's all. It's just not what I'm used to. So we'll see. That's why it's taking a little bit longer. And don't expect anything crazy. I'm just trying to get the first video, like, so the rest of the videos can be the exact same. Just trying to figure out camera settings and things like that. We're not doing anything. We're not making some crazy cool video or anything like that. We're just making, like. We're trying to set up a Runway. Yeah. Okay, wait, what were we talking about? Yeah. Bali. Rate the country.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

Rate the trip.

[Natalie]

Rate it out of 10.

[David]

Well, I actually like the three people we have on this pod to talk about Bali.

[Natalie]

Amazing.

[David]

Because I think I was the most negative. Yeah. John was the most positive, and you were the most neutral. And might I add, I was only negative about Bali for the only reason. And this is. I. If I didn't have this, I would love it. I'm just like. As you know, I'm like a pretty big hypochondriac.

[Natalie]

Yes.

[David]

So, like, the thought of getting Bali Belly consumed every single minute of my day.

[John]

Every minute.

[David]

Every minute of. It wasn't. It was like. I don't know, it really took the joy out of everything because that's all I thought about.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

And at the end of it, yes, of course I got Bali belly. Obviously. I had diarrhea for about two days. Ilya was vomiting for about two days. It is crazy how Taylor had diarrhea. McLean had diarrhea. Natalie, did you. You got away.

[Natalie]

I didn't.

[David]

I was the only place Natalie doesn't diarrhea is Bali.

[Natalie]

Okay, see, this is what I'm talking about.

[David]

Yeah.

[John]

My poop was stiffer.

[Natalie]

If anything, uplift and elevate, not talk down on me as poop monster.

[David]

John's poop was stiffer, as he said. That was my. That was my only problem.

[Natalie]

I mean, everything was black for sure.

[John]

What?

[Natalie]

But it was normal. It was just black.

[John]

Your poop was black.

[Natalie]

Everybody's poop was black.

[John]

Mine was bright brown. Like my skin tone.

[David]

Wow. You really. Wow. You were like, that's a pure bliss.

[Natalie]

I mean, John has a stomach of steel. He was. He would, like, be ordering fruit from, like, a random man on the side of the road. And I'd be like, I don't know if you should eat that, John.

[John]

And it's like, the best part.

[David]

And the problem, if you don't know about these places is like, it's the water they wash the fruit in or the lettuce. It's the water. It's the water. So, like, anything that's washed, can you. Which is great. Which is kind of crazy. And then when you shower, you're using water bottles to shower or to. Sorry. Brush your teeth to Brush your teeth, wash your face. Like I was in the shower. And like the second a drop would feel like it was entering my mouth, I would step out, spit, and then wipe my entire face clean with a towel and then spit again and then mouthwash. I was very dramatic and I knew that me being so dramatic about it was going to lead me to get it. Like, I was manifesting it and yeah, I got it. I don't know. It's. It's not bad when you have it. I think we all got it differently.

[Natalie]

Different. Yeah. Types of it. For sure. Ilya had it the worst.

[David]

Ilya had violently. You'll. You'll see in the vlog, I think there's a moment where you can hear him puking. It is like insanity.

[John]

Oh, yeah.

[David]

But we were really lucky that we only had it for a couple days.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

But other than that, Bali is a must go, right?

[Natalie]

100%.

[David]

100%. Like, it's a. It's no questions asked. It's one of the prettiest places.

[John]

It's the cheap.

[David]

One of the cheapest places, which is incredible. Like, a dollar can get you really, really far.

[Natalie]

Yeah. One, one of the people that was on the trip, our videographer, she lived there for a year and a half and she was telling me that she lived off of $20,000 a year and she lived a great life. Like, she would go out and eat food. She'd get massages like once a week.

[David]

It'd be like a really good life for that price. Like our friend Danny Burke, who used to be in my videos when we were filming the vlogs full time. He was one of the, if you remember this bit, David's bitches. He was like one of the guys that would run on the treadmill and, like, get her. It was really funny. He moved to Bali and he just renewed his lease on his place, on his apartment. He's spending. It cost him four grand a year for rent.

[Natalie]

Four grand a year?

[John]

Did you see the video of his house?

[David]

No. It's nice.

[John]

I mean, it's. It looks like it would get you for grand.

[David]

Right. But it's still four grand a year.

[John]

But it's nice. Yeah. Like, it's like, like it's. It's a room. There's no kitchen. It's just a room and a bathroom.

[David]

Okay. But I mean, I guess, like, what else do you need? If you're, like, accustomed to Bali, you don't even. You don't need a kitchen. Yeah, you just, like, leave the house.

[John]

Exactly.

[David]

And he's like an outdoorsy type. So all he has to do is, like, literally sleep at a place, go

[Natalie]

chop a coconut down and.

[David]

Yeah, but that's pretty fucking incredible. I've never seen anything like it. So I highly recommend that I'm checking out. We.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I have this new. So Bali was always the place that I wanted to go for my honeymoon. I didn't. I, like, had. If I ever had an opportunity to go to Bali, I would say no, because I wanted to save it for my honeymoon with my special person. Obviously, I'm, like, 29, so I was like, fuck it, I just gotta get there. But now I have this new thing where I'm like, it'd be so fun to have my wedding and then take, like, a group friend honeymoon. Like, all my 20 friends, we all go to Bali. And then I go with my significant other after the group honeymoon to, like, an island and just live my little tropical, romantic paradise.

[David]

Like, the perfect place to do that. Going with a girlfriend, having diarrhea. I can't imagine a bigger fear.

[Natalie]

Well, first of all, we're married at that point, so, like, he's probably seen or heard me have diarrhea before.

[David]

Really? Are you gonna be like. Like, if I'm married, I'm doing that on a different floor.

[Natalie]

No, I'm not. Like, I'm not like, oh, babe, come and diarrhea with me. But I'm sure he's, like, aware that it's happened before, that my, like, I've tummy hurt or something.

[David]

You know, we were in Bali and my friend texted me. My friend, who's like, he's like an executive at a really, really big company. Really big company. And. And, you know, we've. We've spoken, like, I don't know, eight to ten times in total. And he texted me a picture of someone that he was with having lunch with. And I was like, oh, no way. And he texted me saying, as a joke, she's pissed. I refer to you as Honey. And in my head, he was referring to Honey, the stripper that I, like, fell in love with at the strip club here in la. Because I've told that story on the podcast and I've told it to, like, five people in person. Yeah. And I'm like, I think he's definitely one of them, because I've talked to this guy about relationships and, like, the shortest fling I had in my head was with the stripper that didn't go past, like, the one hour, but.

[Natalie]

But it lived on for many.

[David]

He texted me a picture of someone he goes, she's pissed. I refer to you as Honey. And I said, hahahaha. You guys are awfully close to where she works if you want to stop by and put in a good word. He goes, tell me where? I'm already walking towards wherever it is. I go, oh, it's only 8:30 there. 8:30pm this is a picture at night. Oh, it's only 8:30 There. She doesn't get in for another six hours. He goes, who are we talking about? And who the fuck starts work at 2:30am? I'm like, oh my God. He goes, I go. I go, honey's a stripper I fell in love with three years ago at body shop. He goes, what the fuck? Where are you? And I go, I'm in Bali. And then we. Yeah, damn.

[Natalie]

He was like playing along, like trying to be cool. And then he was like, hold on a minute. I don't know what the fuck this guy.

[David]

I hate when it happens in a conversation. Yeah, it's so awkward, like to be in his shoes.

[Natalie]

Yeah, yeah. He's like, oh God.

[David]

But good for him for being like,

[Natalie]

he made it funny. Like he got out of it.

[David]

No, not even that. But for dressing that he doesn't know where it's going to pretending you don't know where it's going and then you're like really, like lost at the end of it. Or like when you think someone's joking and they're being serious and you just. Oh, I mean, obviously we know this. Like when you're at a loud party and someone asks you a question, but you think they're just saying a comment and you just take the risk and you just go, yeah, yeah. And they're like, so would you go? Or they're like, so which one would you go for? Yeah, you know what I mean? The worst, the worst. It's like, oh, you asked me a question. Oh fuck, yeah, that stuff.

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[Natalie]

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[David]

Oh no.

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[John]

Repeat.

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[David]

But, yeah. John, tell us your Bali experience.

[John]

I thought it was great.

[David]

Yeah, you couldn't get enough.

[John]

It was so nice. I got a massage.

[David]

Like, well, John, you slept in the massage room.

[John]

I did.

[David]

So, John. So we had the option of John sharing a room, or John, I guess, could get his own room, but he had to take the bed into the massage room.

[John]

Yeah, the massage room was great.

[David]

No, no, it had a bathroom at an ac.

[John]

Yeah, it had everything.

[David]

It was its own guest house, but they converted it into a massage room.

[John]

Yeah. And I just told them to bring, like, a single bed down from upstairs and.

[David]

And the problem was you left it open one night.

[John]

Yeah, the last night, I think. I don't know, something happened, but we just came back and I ordered food. Yeah, grab.

[David]

I saw the food. It was sitting outside the house. So you never even grabbed it?

[John]

Well, I ate it the next day.

[Natalie]

No way.

[David]

Shut the fuck up.

[Natalie]

Wait. That's crazy. First of all, those bugs and shit for hours.

[John]

Wait, wait, wait.

[David]

You ordered food in, like, the middle of the night?

[John]

Yeah, like 11:30pm so it's.

[David]

It's already coming from possibly a sketchy location that's open. Really?

[John]

I spent maybe $9 with tip on that food. And, yeah, I fell asleep.

[David]

It's almost half of Danny's rhyme.

[John]

I fell asleep, I woke up, I left a door half open. I got destroyed by mosquitoes. And this time I learned my. My lesson. Yeah, I learned my lesson in Brazil, like, putting bug spray and everything. And I left. And that's the worst thing to do. I mean, leaving a door open.

[David]

Yeah, especially in the area you work, because the massage room was, like, right by, like, this, like, pond.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

Like, it was. So all the mosquitoes were congregating, so they must have just been like, oh, my God, look at this guy. And you're probably, like, the best guy in the house that they could have found.

[Natalie]

Oh, my God.

[David]

Yeah, they're probably so happy. Like, one of the mosquitoes. One of the mosquitoes probably peeked in and was just like, you guys won't believe this.

[John]

Dude, I woke. I woke up at like 5, 4am it was like, I felt like I was in a jungle. I didn't have AC on. I had the door open, wide open. I was like. I was hot.

[David]

Yeah.

[John]

No, no blanket because it was too warm.

[David]

Do you know I've converted my sleeping methods now, John. I don't sleep at 73 or 4 anymore. Really sleep at 69 degrees.

[John]

69. Wow.

[David]

Isn't that crazy?

[John]

Wait, what made the switch?

[David]

I have no idea. There was one day I just needed to do it and I just, like, made the switch.

[Natalie]

And you're never looking back. Like, are you sleeping better, do you think, or.

[David]

I think I'm sleeping better.

[Natalie]

Wow. I mean, I would imagine because if

[David]

you're sweating, but is that not outrageous? Like, I had so many fights with. What was Ilya sleeping at? I don't remember.

[John]

Now he would put it down to 67, though.

[Natalie]

It's cold.

[John]

It's cold. Like, my room was, you know, he felt my room.

[David]

That is really cold.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

But now I would understand him more. Isn't that crazy what growth does?

[John]

Yeah, that was like an argument like once a week every day.

[David]

Yeah, no, it's really crazy. And then. Oh, also, my mom got an email or. John, listen to this email. How crazy this. My mom found an email from me when I was 13 years ago. So I was 15, 16 at the time. She said, I'm going through my old emails. I found one from you. This is the email. I don't have lunch money, so could you bring me lunch today at 12:30 if you could? Could you bring me two crispy snack wraps with honey mustard and a Big Mac and extra honey mustard packets on the side and a large cup of water? And then could you go to that link and print it out and fill that out and put in $20? You could put that sheet into the McDonald's bag. Thanks. She goes, 13 years ago, McDonald's and a boss. Still the same. That's really funny.

[Natalie]

That's really funny.

[David]

I mean, I still, like, literally, like, America runs on Duncan. I still run on the same fudgeing shit.

[Natalie]

I can imagine you, like, being in, like, first period and being like, I'm an email giving McDonald's.

[David]

I actually don't know, like, how this is possible. I don't know, like, emailing. That's crazy. No, you know what's crazy? That's still on my safari, that I have no idea how on earth it could still be on my phone. Like when I go into like, my little bookmarks. Yeah, I still have on my phone, currently on my iPhone 17.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[David]

I never have. I don't have, like, icloud that carries over anything weird. Yeah, I just have, like, just phone to phone. And I have Power Portal as one of my bookmarks. Like, where you check your grades.

[Natalie]

Oh, my God.

[David]

And it's still like, I had it bookmarked when we were in. When we were freshman year because I wanted to check my grades often, and for some reason, it's still a bookmark.

[Natalie]

That's so interesting.

[David]

No, it's really weird.

[John]

It probably doesn't open to anything.

[David]

We got the best grades in the. In. In this room, probably. Natalie, what was your GPA in high school?

[Natalie]

3.5 probably.

[John]

Yeah, I think Natalie had the highest.

[David]

That's pretty low. What.

[Natalie]

What the.

[John]

What do you mean?

[Natalie]

But it's yours.

[David]

I mean, I was an idiot, but like, I. You shouldn't compare yourself. You did not get.

[John]

You didn't. I'm pretty sure you did not get a 3.5.

[David]

No, I. I had like a 3.2. Yeah.

[John]

Cuz I remembered I was like, at the end of high school, like, I was like, worried about the competition. I was like, David, Mike, John, we

[David]

were never in competition about our GPAs.

[John]

No, no, no. I just wanted to make sure I was just like, hey, I was competent, you know?

[David]

You want to make sure you weren't behind by too much.

[John]

Yeah, exactly.

[David]

I didn't want to beat you. I just wanted to be at least four points behind. What was your GPA?

[John]

I think it was somewhere in the 3. 3.1. No. Yeah.

[David]

I'm putting you at a 2.9.

[John]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[David]

brother, there's no way.

[John]

No, really, I never.

[David]

Oh, you had like, AP classes.

[John]

Yeah, and not only that, in the AP classes, I would get like a B. I just know that.

[David]

Why would you do that?

[John]

Because I wanted to be proven to be smarter.

[David]

Did you do your homework?

[John]

Of course I did.

[David]

Wow.

[John]

Dude, I remembered.

[David]

Oh, God.

[John]

I think Spanish was my worst subject. I will admit Spanish was my worst subject. And I would try and ask, like, I didn't have glasses at this point because I didn't know I couldn't. I needed glasses.

[David]

Spanish for you. Wait, hold on. That's kind of crazy. Spanish for John. Imagine learning a language but skipping the language that you're being that you're using to learn it. Like, he barely knew English and he was already, like, moving on to the next Spanish. Using English.

[John]

The hardest part of learning Spanish for me was, I speak Tagalog. And the words, same, same, but different.

[Natalie]

You know, that's. Oh, wait, that's. That is interesting. Tagalog has a lot of Spanish influence. A lot of the words is similar. So Spanish should be a lot easier.

[John]

No, because grammatically it's different, like, the pronouns, you know.

[David]

Okay, well, I feel that's, like, an easy fix once, you know, like. Yeah. And you're fluent in Tagalog. I feel like that should be, like, an easy no. What were you saying about your glasses? You forgot your glasses?

[John]

Yeah. Like, I was. I got caught cheating one of the days because I was, like, asking, like, I needed. I needed. I needed the answer because I couldn't figure it out at all in a Spanish one. I got my first warning for cheating.

[David]

Wait, wait, how did you get caught? Wait, what were you doing?

[John]

I was. I was literally, like, looking with my eyes, and I couldn't. I couldn't.

[David]

Oh, and you blame it on not having your glasses.

[Natalie]

John trying to cheat, too is, like, so obvious.

[David]

So obvious.

[John]

Yeah. And I learned my lesson.

[David]

If I caught John cheating and I was a teacher, there's no way I'm, like, getting him in trouble. I'm like, oh, my God, this is so sad. I'm gonna let that guy go. Yeah.

[John]

No. So I failed that quiz. I was like, I failed that quiz. That was my first time.

[David]

Who's your teacher?

[John]

I don't know. It was some. This was my Spanish teacher. I don't know. Spanish one.

[David]

Balinsky?

[Natalie]

No. Baronson or something. Swanson?

[David]

Sawiki?

[Natalie]

No, Sweetie was the principal, I think.

[David]

No.

[Natalie]

Yeah. Oh, Principal Swicky.

[David]

But, yeah, that was.

[John]

That was my one and only time I ever cheated, and I got caught for it. So I was like, you know what? Cheating's not for me.

[David]

Time to pack it up.

[John]

Yeah. So I just gotta do it.

[David]

Hard work. Yeah. The only time I was caught was not till college, which was really, really good. Yeah.

[John]

But you would cheat so much.

[David]

I mean, there wasn't a test or

[John]

homework that you didn't, like, use somebody on.

[David]

Yeah. I genuinely wish people understood what I did, because I don't. I didn't know what chapter curriculum. I didn't know the. It could be a random subject. I could be thrown into a classroom. It's in a different grade on the day of. And I'd figure out how to cheat. Cheating was my. It was. It was all fair game. If you. If you knew how to cheat, you know how to. You know how to play the game. It's all part of it. It's all part of school. So. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. I highly recommend it. I think cheating is the best. I think. I think, like, it makes you stronger. And Steve Jobs always said, if you. You want something done, give it to the laziest person and they'll figure out the easiest way to do it.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

And, yeah, no, you.

[John]

You were definitely, like, the guy that I knew. I was like. I was like. I got so mad every time you'd score higher because I know you cheated.

[David]

Yeah.

[John]

And I had to study the night before. Like, I wouldn't play video games. I would, like, actually study.

[David]

No, it's so good. And it got to the point where it didn't even matter who you were sitting next to. It didn't even matter. And the best part, there was times where, like, the teacher would suspect that people were cheating. So there's one time when the teacher was like, you're going to take the test on a different day? Or, like, oh, my God, even better. Like, like, okay, so I like a little cheating group. And, like, one of the kids got worried because I wasn't going to be there, and they're like, how are you going to take the test? I'm like, dude, this is even better.

[John]

Like, you know the answer.

[David]

I'm going to know the answers. And one time I took the test so late that the kids got the test back the next day because it was a quiz. And then I got to just take the corrected quiz and take it with me to the study hall room. Copied right off it, you know, got some answers wrong, obviously, because they don't want to score 100% and. And won that way. I don't know. I fuck. I mean, it felt like Ocean's eleven back in that day. Like, cheating was like. You felt like fucking George Clooney in high school.

[John]

Really funny, because I was, like, complete polar opposite. And Alex was also in the middle. Like, he'd be doing it. Same with Mike. He'd be like, if only he needed to.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't cheat as much.

[John]

Yeah, but you were the complete cheater.

[David]

On the opposite spectrum, the biggest cheater.

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[David]

So the first, we vlogged this as we vlogged Rio.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

Again, trying new things out. We still don't have an editor yet, so God knows. That's why when I say I don't know what the videos are gonna look like, it's because I don't know who our editor is. I don't even like talking about it. But. So the first week we kind of hung out with our friends at a villa. And then for the weekend, we flew over to another island in Bali called Sumba.

[Natalie]

Yes.

[David]

Where we stayed at possibly the nicest hotel I've ever stayed at in my entire life.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

And I. I've been to a lot of hotels and I like, I'm like. I pride myself in being so snooty about hotels. And this hotel is like, fucking top notch.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

It's called Nihi. You may have seen on. If you look up, like Nihi Horses.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

On. On TikTok, you'll see like the horses running on the beach.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

It's this incredible hotel. We got there for a friend's birthday. Happy birthday, Tanya. Shout out to Tanya. She got everyone these rooms and every person that was there was assigned a caretaker.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

So, like, I got there, my guy was Maxi, and he took me to my room, which I. Which was normal because the hotel takes you to your room. And I just thought that's all he was doing. But then he grabbed my phone.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

And he put his number in my WhatsApp and he texted himself.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

And. And then we were texting back and forth like. Like pro. You know how like a Hotel is like, we have a butler service, but you don't actually ever use it. It's just like, who's going to call that? But he's like. He's like calling you. He's like, I. I can have the paddle court for you. Ready this time. This time. And he, like, learns from your habits and he's with you all day. So, like, I went to go play paddle. I played with four of my friends. And in paddle, sometimes you hit the ball over the fence. And Maxi was running around collecting the balls.

[Natalie]

No way.

[David]

It was crazy. Like. Like a ball boy. And we. You don't have to do that. There's so many balls. There's literally no need for him to do that. And he was like, it's my pleasure, David. He was like, so fucking. It was fucking crazy. And then, you know, the hotel has, like, they have their own waters that are like, that. They purify and it's like branded, but it's reusable Bottles.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

So I was just like, I still don't really trust it because I'm just like, I just want to be super careful. So I was drinking these other water bottles that were like, these, like, glass bottles that were, like, sealed while I was playing Padel.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

And I was drinking them and drinking them over the other ones. And then when I was done with Padel, I went to Maxi and I was like, can I have four of these bottles sent to my room? And then he showed me a picture and he already got them delivered to my room. Cause he noticed how much I preferred them over the other water. He goes, I noticed that you weren't drinking the other waters, so I changed all the waters in your room to fit those.

[Natalie]

It was fucking insane.

[David]

It was crazy.

[John]

Nat, did you get the same experience?

[Natalie]

No, but I think Maxi was just paying attention to David. I didn't really, like, have my own person. I definitely did. I just wasn't, like, communicating with them. Like, you were.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maxie, like, really connected.

[Natalie]

He, like. Yeah. Like, you guys, like, really, like, he was. There wasn't like, one. I think the first night we all, like, stayed up and we were like, hanging whatever till, like, two in the morning.

[David]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

And he waited like, we were all at the beach club or whatever, like, partying, drinking, dancing. Maxi waited till two in the morning to. And then walked both David and I. I think I was very drunk.

[David]

He walked me. So he waited for me to finish drinking.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

And then as he saw me leaving, I didn't even know he was there. Yeah. Was like, are you ready to go? And I was like, whoa, Maxi, you're still here. He's like, yes, I've been waiting. Wow. And then he. He. Yeah, he walked me home and I pretended like I was going to jump off the cliffside and he, like, trying to catch me. It was really funny. It was really funny. He's. He's such a good guy.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

I mean, he would have tucked me into bed 100. 100%. Like, he was.

[Natalie]

I mean, anything and everything. I forgot my pillow in the room, and I was talking to Isabel about it, one of our friends, and he just overheard, like, he was just standing in the corner and overheard the conversation. He was like. And just sprinted off and got the pillow back in my room.

[David]

There's little. Yeah, there's. It's. It's really. It's really crazy.

[Natalie]

Like, the hospitality.

[David]

Like, we'll all be, like. 10 of us will be, like, drinking, like, by the. Will be like, by the beach or something. And. And all of the people's, like, caretakers will be standing there off to the side and just, like, waiting for you to finish your drink so they could bring you another one.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

The service is, like, crazy. I've never seen anything like it. It was like I actually hurt my head how. Like, on fucking point it was.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

You take two sips of your water and it was refilled. It was crazy. And the food was fucking the food. I put my guard down about Bali Belly because I was like, I don't give a. Like, I don't care if it's in this salad. I don't care if I'm. If I'm biting the king of Bali belly bugs right now. It was the. The most delicious food I think I've ever had on a vacation period, hands down.

[John]

Wow.

[David]

Like, that. I don't say that lightly. I highly, highly recommend.

[Natalie]

So good.

[David]

Probably the best hotel I've ever stayed at.

[Natalie]

Nihi Hotel, also incredibly expensive.

[David]

Incredibly expensive.

[Natalie]

Incredibly expensive.

[David]

Incredibly expensive.

[Natalie]

It's like a once in a lifetime experience kind of hotel.

[David]

Yeah. This is like, we're in Bali and it's incredibly expensive.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[John]

Yeah. That didn't make sense to me when you said the price, I was like, whoa.

[Natalie]

Well, because it's like a part of. It's a part of, like, this niche boutique.

[David]

Some of the bigger rooms there are like 15 to 20,000 a night.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[John]

Which is crazy.

[David]

Which doesn't make anything insane.

[John]

15,000 a night.

[David]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Natalie]

But the hotel was full. It was like a random weekend.

[David]

No, no. I think I'm pretty sure it's full.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

And what's crazy about it is it's like. It's like that's like three years of Danny's house in Indonesia. Like, it's like. It's. It's got to be one of the most expensive places ever. Yeah, probably. I mean, Natalie's right. It's once in a lifetime. It's all slowly, once in a lifetime, just because it is, like, a difficult place to get to. So I'm glad I checked that off my list. When you land at the airport, first off, the. The representatives of the hotel.

[Natalie]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

[David]

Are already waiting for you at the last air in Bali.

[Natalie]

So they're waiting for you when you depart from Bali. They are there at the door when you get out of your taxi cab.

[David]

Yeah. In Bali, like in Nihi. Outfits in the hotels. The hotel doesn't exist in Bali.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

But they have employees there that are working just for the hotel just to get you into. Onto the plane faster.

[Natalie]

They take your bags for you. They take photos of every single one of your bags. Once, when I stepped foot out of the taxi cab, I didn't see my bag until it arrived into my room.

[David]

Wow. And we had. I had no idea that they were with us.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[John]

That's crazy.

[David]

We were sitting in the lounge at the airport, and they were like. And I was like, are we just supposed to, like, just trust that everyone has, like. Like our bag? Like, they took all my bags, everything, like, four of my bags. And it wasn't even, like, Max, just two. You could have given them nine bags.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

And they would be like, yeah, we're gonna get it there. You could have given them three cupcakes separately, not wrapped, and they would have delivered the cupcake there, like, in perfect condition. It's fucking. It's incredible. And so when you land, I think there's options. You can get picked up by helicopter.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

Or you can get picked up by these, like, really cool, like, safari rovers, safari Jeep. Like Hollywood tour buses. Yeah. But, like, decked out safari. And you drive through all the villages there. Like an hour and a half drive. And I've never seen more excited locals in my life.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

Every, like, it's. Everybody is, like, so excited to wave. Really? Everybody's waving. I remember, like, it was really fun on the way there because I was just, like, waving at everybody. And then on the way out, I was asleep because I was so hungover. And our flight was at like, 8 in the morning, and they're driving us back an hour and a half. And all I would hear is as like the cars were rushing by us and the other people on motorbikes were rushing by us. Like, my head was on. You couldn't even see I was really in the car. You could just see like maybe the top of my ear.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

Just people go, mister. And it was all little. It was all little kids just trying to say like, hello because they just love waving to those buses. Yeah. Mister. It was so fudgeing cute. But yeah, I learned that Indonesians are like the happiest people. Which, like, completely checks out.

[Natalie]

Yeah, 100%.

[John]

I mean, even in Bali, I've never seen so many, like, solo female travelers. Like, like, if I had to leave Julia somewhere in one of those countries, Bali would be like the number one spot.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

Yeah. There's a lot of. There's a lot of young people.

[John]

There's a lot of young people.

[Natalie]

Everybody's like a 20 something entrepreneur or just like figuring your life out.

[David]

Everyone's really hot also.

[Natalie]

Everyone's. And the fitness, the health, like, lifestyle.

[David]

We went into a gym. We met with the gym owner. It was a brand new gym, just opened a year ago. And I could not believe. It was like six weeks. Six weeks. Oh, sorry. He. He built it in a year. He bought the land a year ago and it was fully operational. He got done in a year. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. Beautiful gym. And he was like, you notice all the hot people? And I go, yeah, actually, I was gonna ask you about that. I wanna be rude. And he's like, strategy. He's like, that's a strategy. I'm like, hell yeah.

[Natalie]

What does he say to someone that he doesn't think is hot?

[David]

You can't come in here. I think so many people apply. No one even knows. Like, I think he's just letting it

[Natalie]

take a membership, sort of.

[David]

Yeah. But he's. He's maxed out his memberships.

[John]

Yeah, he's sold out.

[David]

It's a waiting, listening. And then there's another. The best nightclub I think I've ever been to in the world is now also in Bali. This is crazy. Bali holds the awards for a lot of things. It's kind of crazy that I was the most negative about it because of Bali. Bali, once you get past that, it's a flawless place, 100% for a tourist. I don't actually know, like, the ins and outs of it, so don't quote me on that. But there's another place called Savaya. It's this incredible club there. It's like this. You've seen it also on TikTok. It's this, like, glowing cube, and it's hanging off a cliff. You should look it up. Savaya. Really, really fucking cool club. I highly recommend that experience, too. Food there again, delicious. Also, at the hotel we were at, they're known for their horses on the beach. So, like, they'll bring the horses out, they'll have the horses run by you, so you can take a cool picture as they're running behind you, like, with the breeze and the beach. You can ride them in the water. And you can also go spear fishing. So they take you out in the morning and you hunt for a fish, like, in the water. You spearfish, you shoot the fish, then you give the hotel your fish, and then they prepare it for either lunch or dinner, like, really nicely. Like, with flour. Like, the whole thing, they cut it up like it's fucking like. Well, it is actually a Michelin star. It's a three Michelin star restaurant.

[John]

We get it.

[David]

We get it.

[John]

It's. It's nice. Have you been to Medieval Times, though?

[David]

Oh, that's where you went?

[Natalie]

That's where John was.

[David]

I mean, listen, I get. Medieval Times is great, too.

[John]

Dude's great. I saw some horses there, too, man. Have you seen a horse trot? I mean, his horse trotting is. I actually would.

[Natalie]

I've never been to Medieval Times. I would love to go.

[David]

The Renaissance Fair was one of my favorite things ever.

[Natalie]

Really?

[David]

Yeah. It was my favorite thing I did with my family. I don't know why. What?

[Natalie]

That's like the.

[David]

I remember this thing.

[Natalie]

I would think that you.

[David]

Yeah. Why did I like it so much?

[John]

I think you like the little game. They had the ladder game there.

[David]

Oh, the one with the ladder.

[John]

With the ladders.

[David]

Curvy. Or the ladder, like, will knock you over.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

Oh, I liked it because it was just challenging.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

Did I tell you about it?

[John]

Yeah. I remembered you telling me about this.

[David]

Like, it was yesterday I came back and I was like, raving about the Renaissance Fair.

[John]

And I was like, what the fuck is a Renaissance Fair? I was like, is it Medieval Times? And you were like, no. All I know is it was in Wisconsin. That's all I know.

[David]

That's so funny. That's so good being a kid. Now we're going to Nihi Hotel.

[Natalie]

Yeah. God, life is so hard.

[David]

I'm just saying, like, the beauty in the Renaissance Fair, it's amazing. Makes me like.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David]

Like, coming back and finding John and being like, you won't Believe the ladder I just found at the Renaissance fair. Like, yeah.

[John]

Or they had that like bucket game, you know, where you underhand toss it and has to like not bounce back.

[David]

I fucking hate that game.

[John]

I fucking remember we said so much money of our car wash. Well, I

[David]

lost your money there.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

Lost your parents money. Do you remember that story?

[Natalie]

No.

[David]

John. John's family and Alex's family gave me money to meet him at the fair.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[David]

Give me like, I don't know how much it was. I've told the story on the podcast. Like 20 bucks each or something.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

A lot of money.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

As a kid, 20 bucks is like huge. Two weeks worth money.

[John]

David's like, I can guarantee this money. This money's practically free.

[David]

And then there was a game, you know those buckets, like those rubber buckets, you throw the ball in it. You have to make sure the ball stays in the bucket and doesn't bounce out.

[Natalie]

Yes, yes.

[David]

The guy. It was the first time in my life I've seen this game and the guy showed me and he's like, you get it in two times, PlayStation's yours. Yep. And I'm like, fucking serious. Yeah. Got the perfect guy. And I like, that's it. I just get it in two times. He's like, that's it, two times. And he does it. Obviously he's closer. He's at a different angle. It works for him. Yeah. And then I have like 60 bucks on me for our three day passes to the carnival in Vernon Hills. That's only there like three days out of the year.

[John]

Yes.

[David]

Very rare. And I walk there. Obviously my parents aren't driving me anywhere. I've walked from. It's like what, a two mile walk back to our house? Yeah. And you guys aren't there yet. I just have your money. Just me hanging out by myself. So I give them a guy the money, I lose the money immediately. I can't believe it. I'm like, I can't believe I just lost. Because I was like, I'm gonna win a PlayStation.

[Natalie]

Did you do.

[David]

I did three different. Three different tries.

[Natalie]

Whoa.

[David]

Probably more the second time. I realized it was rigged, but I was like, I've already spent everybody's money. There's got to be a way to win this and spend it all. Yeah, I spent all the money. But like, yeah, obviously going into it, I'm like, I'm gonna win John and Alex the PlayStation.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

And I need to win this now before other kids come because I don't want all the PlayStations to be gone. I'm such a fucking idiot. It's crazy how you think as a kid. So, yeah, so I lost that and then I had to run back two miles to beg my parents for money. And big IOU happened and. Yeah, that's kind of what it was there.

[Natalie]

That's really funny.

[David]

Renaissance fair. That's a crazy. Give me one of them. Give me more. John, you got so many crazy memory polls. Renaissance fair. I haven't thought about that since we discussed it. Since we discussed it freshman year of high school or whenever that was. Give me one more, give me one more.

[John]

I don't know, dude. It just comes in, comes. Go, dude, please.

[David]

I'm about to fucking come. Take a nap.

[Natalie]

Oh my God.

[David]

Taking a nap, taking a nap. Go, go, go.

[John]

I really can'. I just. It has. Dude, you have to like tickle my brain.

[David]

Okay, here's your homework. Here's your homework. Yeah. Write down five things. Okay. For the next pod for Thursday.

[John]

Okay.

[David]

Okay. So it's technically a day. Sure. Five things. That.

[John]

That was five words that can like.

[David]

Five words that like. Yeah. Name something to listen to memory. Okay. Okay, sure. Okay. Blessing off to talk about. Have you heard of the green laser experiment? I kind of was explaining this to Natalie.

[Natalie]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[David]

Okay. John, listen to this. So I was watching the scientist talk about dmt. Oh yeah, it's on his phone.

[John]

God damn it.

[David]

Well, let's go. What's going on? Wait, wait. Put the mic up to your mouth. I want to hear what you're saying. What are you saying? What are you saying to the car guy? Say it louder.

[John]

Can you pay the car wash guy?

[David]

We get car washes. Like, to the house.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

And is it weird how it's like cheaper than taking your car? Why does that not make sense?

[John]

It's not. If you see my car, I did mine for 10 bucks.

[David]

Wait, I thought it's $50 here at the house.

[John]

Yeah, it's $50 at the house. 15D55.0.

[David]

What? Yeah, bro, I paid 50 bucks a car.

[John]

Yes. You've been paying for like years now. It's been $50.

[Natalie]

That's still pretty cheap for like a detail.

[John]

It's still very cheap. Yeah, they do a good job.

[David]

I get it. But I was shocked. I was telling everybody it's 15. Everybody that comes in.

[Natalie]

Well, that's stupid.

[David]

I was watching everyone's cars. I was like, it's 15.

[John]

No, dude, mine was. Mine is 15. If you do it like an automatic wash. If you self car wash it, like me, I pay 10 bucks.

[David]

All right, well, I gotta start. I gotta start doing that. Okay. Anyway, listen, listen to this. Have you heard of the green. The green laser experiment?

[John]

Is that the one in China? Anti fatigue?

[David]

No. So there's this guy talking about DMT again. Sorry, guys.

[John]

Damn it. Okay, did you hear what Natalie, did Julia tell you why I got connected with. With the DMT person of like one the specific band in the 70s? She's like 75 years old. It's all legit.

[David]

Oh, she like knows how to like give it to people?

[John]

Yep.

[David]

Oh, we should totally do it with her.

[John]

She's like, she has the real stuff. The guy that, that connected me with it, he did it off of a toad.

[David]

Oh, wow.

[John]

The actual. No, the toad is alive. It secretes DMT.

[David]

Oh, the DMT's on top of it.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

What do you think that toad's going through?

[John]

I don't know, dude. I just know it's off a toad.

[David]

That toad's gotta think he's the king of the world or some. He's gonna be tripping balls.

[Natalie]

Well, that. Maybe that's why that like that like fairy tale, like the toad is.

[David]

Oh, interesting. Where you kiss a toad and then it turns into the prince.

[Natalie]

Yeah. Oh, maybe that's where that came from.

[David]

Holy.

[John]

Wait now.

[Natalie]

Thank you.

[David]

That's really good. That probably is it. That's really interesting. So there are these scientists talking about the DMT experiment. About dmt?

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

And basically they said if you take a green laser, like from Home Depot, like, you know, like those dewalts. Just a green laser. Yeah.

[John]

Okay.

[David]

And you take the beam and you extend it out, you spread it out. Like imagine you like, like, you know what I mean?

[Natalie]

Make it flare out.

[David]

Make it flare. Like you throw like you put it through like a prism or something. That makes it like.

[John]

Yeah.

[David]

Kind of extends all through like blankets the wall almost like a little.

[John]

Yeah, yeah, like make it.

[David]

So he's saying that they did that and then they took like 10 different people, they had them do psychedelics and they had them look at the laser and all of them could see through the wall.

[John]

What?

[Natalie]

Like the green laser projected. They split it up. It projected like a green sheet on the wall. And then people that were see through the.

[David]

Through the laser onto the other side

[John]

of the wall with like 100% accuracy.

[David]

I guess that's why this is going to be.

[Natalie]

And what were they seeing?

[David]

What's on what was on the other side of the wall?

[Natalie]

But like, like was something written or like was a person standing.

[David]

They were Also seeing code on the laser. So, like on the laser to be codes like numbers. 2, 5, 9. And as the laser would move, the code would change. So kind of eliciting or what is it eliciting?

[Natalie]

Listening.

[David]

Listening.

[John]

Listening.

[David]

Insinuating. Incinerating.

[John]

I don't know.

[David]

Impending.

[Natalie]

No idea where you're going.

[John]

I have no clue where you're going, bro.

[David]

Impregnate.

[John]

Listening.

[Natalie]

For sure.

[David]

That way.

[John]

Reading.

[David]

Reading. I don't know.

[Natalie]

What were you saying again?

[David]

I don't know. Insinuating. Insinuating. You said that the first time. I did. Okay. Insinuating basically that the entire world's made up out of code and all this stuff. And the sign, the other guy interviewing him was like, so what did you guys learn from this? He's like, well, that's the most, like, that's the part that's the toughest because we don't learn anything from this. It's just that we just observe this and we have no explanation for any of it. So I will be going back on the DMT train. You saw what, what you guys got earlier was like the Star wars saga. Like New Hope, Empire Stripes Strikes Back. Like, you. You saw the first trilogy of Star Wars. Now you're gonna get the new ones. The updated Revenge of the Sith. I'm going back on dmt. You heard it here first with John's Grandma.

[Natalie]

Hell y.

[David]

75 year old. I'm doing off a fucking toad up my ass. I'm going to see through walls. Get fucking ready. All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today. We have to go to the Snappy Awards, the Snapchat Award show. We're very late and hopefully I'll win an award. Actually, I'm only nominated for one, so the odds aren't the best.

[Natalie]

Fingers crossed.

[David]

I'm nominated for creator of the year. Wow. Big one, John.

[John]

That's huge.

[David]

Okay, we'll see you guys later. Hey, everybody, Ted Danson here to tell you about my podcast with my longtime friend and sometimes co host, Woody Harrelson. It's called where everybody knows your name. And we're back for another season. I'm so excited to be joined this season by friends like John Mulaney, David Spade, Sarah Silverman, Ed Helms, and many more. You don't want to miss it. Listen to where everybody knows your name with me, Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson sometimes, wherever you get your podcasts

[John]

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[Natalie]

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[David]

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