Confronting Best Friend About Our Beef

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Confronting Best Friend About Our Beef"

Episode Information:

• Title: Confronting Best Friend About Our Beef
• Podcast: VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash
• Release Date: July 2, 2025

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1. Introduction to the Conflict

In this episode of VIEWS, host Natalie Mariduena brings a deeply personal and humorous story to the forefront: her strained relationship with her best friend, Jonah (who goes by Nick). Natalie sets the stage by expressing disbelief over how quickly their friendship deteriorated without direct communication.

Natalie Mariduena [01:08]: "Guys, we have probably one of the hottest starts that we'll ever have on a podcast here. I have a story, brand new, fresh off the shelves."

2. The Miscommunication Unfolds

Natalie reveals that she and Jonah had ceased direct communication for about a month and a half, relying instead on third parties to mediate their disagreements. This led to constant confusion as both parties were unaware of the true reason behind the silence.

Natalie Mariduena [01:58]: "So Jonah and I haven't been talking for a month and a half. Like, straight up, we've been in a fight for a month and a half. No contact, nothing but a fight through other people."

The misunderstanding stemmed from Natalie accidentally blocking Jonah on her phone, preventing her from receiving any of his heartfelt messages. Meanwhile, Jonah believed Natalie was intentionally ignoring him due to petty disagreements about their friend’s brand presence at her chip launch party.

Natalie Mariduena [05:08]: "I had him accidentally blocked for the last month and a half. For the last month and a half."

3. The Confrontation and Revelation

The turning point came when a skit about Natalie’s feet unexpectedly went viral, prompting Jonah to suggest collaborating. Natalie seized the moment to address the elephant in the room, leading to an intense but lighthearted 20-minute argument where both expressed their frustrations and misunderstandings.

Natalie Mariduena [03:59]: "So this is the text he sent me. 'Hey, bro, I'm not sure if you feel a certain type of way with me, and if you do, please be open about it. It pains me to see a distance between us...'"

As the conversation unfolded, Natalie discovered that Jonah had been trying to reach her without success, believing he was being blatantly ignored. It was only when Natalie checked her blocked contacts that she realized the root of their conflict.

Natalie Mariduena [05:44]: "He thought we'd been beefing because I actually had him blocked...I was in a thong and he wanted to show me. I didn't know that."

4. Resolution and Reflections

After clearing up the misunderstanding, the hosts reflect on the importance of direct communication and the absurdity of how small missteps can escalate into significant conflicts. They emphasize that although their relationship includes playful banter and disagreements, it remains strong at its core.

David Dobrik [11:06]: "The thing with him is he pisses me off and then there's this weird thing that, like, I just love you at the end of it."

The episode concludes with a unanimous decision to move forward, highlighting their commitment to maintaining their friendship despite the bumps along the way.

Natalie Mariduena [18:15]: "Jonah, let's get out of here, all right? Let's just squash all our beefs that are real or not."

Notable Quotes:

• Jonah [02:08]: "Not an Actual. Ever blow up between the two?"

• Natalie Mariduena [04:41]: "Someone was like, we have to talk. I think it's really silly."

• David Dobrik [22:20]: "You're as fucking weird. Super bizarre. You are very bizarre, dude."

• Jason Nash [26:02]: "I was in S. Tropez over the weekend."

Themes and Insights:

• Miscommunication: Highlighting how technological mishaps, like accidentally blocking a friend, can lead to misunderstandings.

• Friendship Dynamics: Exploring the balance between playful teasing and genuine concern within close relationships.

• Conflict Resolution: Emphasizing the importance of addressing issues directly to prevent unnecessary escalation.

Conclusion

"Confronting Best Friend About Our Beef" offers listeners an authentic glimpse into the complexities of maintaining friendships amidst misunderstandings. Through humor and heartfelt conversation, Natalie, Jonah, David, and Jason showcase the resilience of their bonds, reminding us all of the value of clear communication and forgiveness.

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For those who haven't listened to the episode, this summary provides a comprehensive overview of the key discussions and emotions shared among the hosts, capturing both the humor and sincerity that define VIEWS podcast episodes.

Transcript

[David Dobrik]

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[Jason Nash]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

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[Jason Nash]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

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[Jason Nash]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

What's up, guys? Welcome back to View. Guys, we have probably one of the hottest starts that we'll ever have on a podcast here. I have a story, brand new, fresh off the shelves. I could not believe it when it just happened. So I have my buddy here, Jonah. He goes by Nick. That's his real name. Please.

[Jonah]

Nick.

[David Dobrik]

Nick.

[Jonah]

Nick forever. Please, can Jonah die forever? Can he bury him?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Anyway, so Jonah and I.

[Jonah]

No bury him. Please, please, please.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You know, that's the guy. That's the guy from Old Bro.

[Jonah]

People come up to me in public like, jonah. I'm like, bro, please, please.

[David Dobrik]

Have you ever met Jonah Hill?

[Jonah]

No, I haven't. He probably hates me. Oh, I guarantee you, so many people walk up to him, they're like, jonah vlogs. Probably Jonah Hills, probably.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I love your vlogs. Super bad at everything. I'm trying to say the story, but I can't say Nick. Can I just say Jonah for the. For the sake of the story? And then I'll go back to Nick.

[Jonah]

Okay.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's just like when I'm retelling, it doesn't make sense.

[Jonah]

I'm like, fine, fine.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. So Jonah and I. Nick. So Jonah and I haven't been talking for a month and a half. Like, straight up, we've been in a fight for a month and a. No contact, nothing but a fight through other people.

[David Dobrik]

Not an Actual. Ever blow up between the two?

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, we never actually really interacted with each other.

[David Dobrik]

Right.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I've been hearing from other people. They'll be like, what's up with you? What's up with you and him? Like, why aren't you guys talking? What's going on?

[Jonah]

From who?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, I. Like, I'll run into, like. Like. Like someone like Vahe or like, oh. And I kept running into people, and every time I would hear something, I'd be like, what the fuck are you saying? Like, what's going on? I don't know what you're saying. I heard it so many times and so quickly in, like, a period of two days.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What? Where I was like, okay, fuck. We're fighting like, something's going on. And, like, I didn't know what it was. Long story short, I'm gonna fast forward. Yesterday, Jonah wanted to film a skit with Natalie. So we hit up Natalie. Let's do the skit. I'm. Surprise, surprise. It's a skit about Natalie's feet. He really loves those.

[David Dobrik]

How'd it do?

[Jonah]

It's just funny. He got, like, 30,000 shares.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, nice.

[Jonah]

He got more shares than likes, which is hilarious.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And I know he's coming over and you're here, Jay. And I'm like, this is it. I'm gonna confront him. I'm just gonna be like, what the fuck's wrong with you? Like, let's just figure it out. Like, I think if you. Someone, you got to talk to him. Jason always says that too. Like, just communicate. So he comes by and I go, what's your deal? And he goes, what's your fucking deal? Neither of us will ever be, like, super serious, even if. Even if the fight is really bad. So we're both kind of like, what's your deal? What's my deal? Blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And we argue about it for, like, 20 minutes. I'm like, I don't have a problem with you at all. And he goes, oh, really? He thought that the reason I was mad at him was because I had, like, a launch party for my chips waivers, and his candy was also there. They're called noobs. And he thought I was obsessed with upset that his candy was at my launch party. And I'm like, TikTok shop and get dupes on TikTok. And. And I'm like, are you on fucking meth? Like, that is, like, so unlike me to be upset because my friend's brand was at my chip launch.

[Jonah]

I thought because they're Both snacks.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You were weird enough, which is fucking insane.

[Jonah]

Yeah. Because I even thought in my head, I'm like, when you go to like 7 11, you buy chips and candy.

[Jason Nash]

Sweet candy.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Jonah]

Okay, so sounds like it's kind of the same.

[Natalie Mariduena]

This story. This story's all going to add up in about two seconds. So just bear with. If you're still a little bit confused. It's going to. It's going to clear up here. So Jonas, thinking of all these reasons why I'm upset with him, and he's like. He's like, dude, like you're being. You're being so weird with me. Like I said, you. All these nice texts, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, what is he talking about? What is he talking about? And then once again, he goes, well, then why the fuck did you not respond to my heartfelt text to you? And I'm like, what heartfelt text? What the fuck are you talking about?

[Jonah]

Yeah, it spilled my guts out.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Can I read it?

[Jonah]

It's so weird to read it, though.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I know, I know.

[David Dobrik]

It's. It's really nice, but it's really.

[Jonah]

It makes me weird. It makes me feel awkward.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's really cringey. Please.

[David Dobrik]

No, it's a really sweet.

[Jonah]

Bro, I don't know. It's such a weird text. Just please show me because it' it's like a breakup text.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It is.

[Jonah]

And I don't know if I want it out there.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Just show me.

[David Dobrik]

The only thing, the only thing that's. The only thing that's embarrassing about the text is you use the phrase you feel a certain kind of way.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What I said.

[David Dobrik]

You did. You said, I don't know if you feel a certain way about me.

[Jonah]

Dude, it's so weird.

[David Dobrik]

But the rest of it's really nice.

[Natalie Mariduena]

So this is the text he sent me. Hey, bro, I'm not sure if you feel a certain type of way with me, and if you do, please be open about it. It pains me to see a distance between us. You've been my friend for a very long time. I've always loved and admired you and our friendship. Let's get together when free. I'll always support you and appreciate you as a friend for all you've done. Love you, bro. And this is so sweet.

[David Dobrik]

Really nice.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Never in a million years would I not respond. So then I start scrolling through the other texts and I'm like, dude, I haven't gotten any of these. I'm like, I haven't gotten the last six texts from you. And this entire Time he thought, I have. I haven't been responding because I've been pissed. I'm like, I haven't gotten a single one. So I grab. I grab his phone again. I text myself, and it doesn't come through to my phone. I'm like, what fucking number are you texting? And then I go on my phone and I'm like, I had him accidentally blocked for the last month and a half. For the last month and a half.

[David Dobrik]

Two idiots.

[Natalie Mariduena]

He thought we'd been beefing because I actually had him blocked. And to the point where he was texting me, I wasn't texting back. And he was making up scenarios in his head. He was like, damn, you must have been so pissed about the candy being next to the chips. And I know the exact reason why I blocked him was because Taylor and I were opening up some package on my Snapchat, and he called me eight or nine times in a row, and it was cutting into the audio, and I kept projecting his call. Kept projecting his call. Very normal. Normal for him to call me eight or nine times in a row if.

[Jonah]

He has to, because I was in a thong and it was funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, he was. He was in a thong, Jay. He just got out of the shower and he was in a thong. He's completely naked, and he wanted to show me. I didn't know that. I think that is funny, but I can't.

[David Dobrik]

Would you have liked to seen that?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Then I would have picked up immediately, but I kept hanging up. And then to the point where I was like, fuck this. I just. I have to block him for a sec. So I blocked him instead of putting on do not disturb. I don't know why I did that. And I forgot to unblock him.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, my God.

[Natalie Mariduena]

So for a full. Wow. Month and a half.

[Jonah]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

In his head, it got so. Even me. It got into my head where I was like, what the fuck is going on?

[David Dobrik]

Right?

[Natalie Mariduena]

And then every time I would ask, like, his sister, and I said, brother, be like, yo, I got to. I got to talk to this guy. There's something weird here. Like, and on his phone, he wasn't getting my text either. Like, my texts weren't going through either. It was very, very fucking bizarre. And we were just. I told him, I'm like, this is how war start. Like, this is, like, the most.

[Jonah]

It was really weird.

[Natalie Mariduena]

This is so weirdly misunderstood. And it was like a complete accident that, like, spiraled into something so serious. I've never had this happen to me in my entire life. It's really funny happened with him. And then it got to the point that it got to what threw me off, dude?

[Jonah]

Was Natalie replying back to me? Because, like, I would send her a reel and I'd be like, oh, we got to recreate this. And she's like, haha, yeah, come over, let's do it. Like, what the Fucking with me? Because if you. Like, why is he not talking shit ASAP to everybody?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, why am I not teamed up with.

[Jonah]

Because Natalie's like, haha. So funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, that's what Natalie thought was bizarre too. Was like. Natalie was like, why didn't you just text her and be like, what's wrong with Dave? Yeah, like, why didn't you ask Jason or anybody else?

[Jonah]

Like, it kind of unfolded kind of funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, I was in.

[Jonah]

Because I got confronted on. On, like on video.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And I know it's funny, but I was in can and like, I ran into his manager or something. She's like, I managed Nick, let's call him. I'm like, okay, he's mad at me right now for some reason, but let's call him.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then what happened?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Then we FaceTimed it.

[Jonah]

I saw David's face and I'm like, I don't want to see him.

[David Dobrik]

What did you say?

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, we FaceTimed. He goes, yo, like, it was weird. And I got off the FaceTime and I go, I leave. Literally told his manager. I go, I don't know what his fucking deal is. I have no idea why he's this upset.

[Jonah]

Because he wasn't replying to me and all of a sudden he's on someone else's FaceTime. Fucking weirdo. What the hell?

[Natalie Mariduena]

All of a sudden he thinks it's so casual to just talk to me?

[Jonah]

Like, yeah, dude, that was so weird.

[David Dobrik]

Number one, FaceTiming someone eight to nine times is excessive.

[Jonah]

I agree. But I was also naked in a thong and it was funny.

[David Dobrik]

Right?

[Jonah]

And I also FaceTimed like 10 other. 10 other my friends.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, it was urgent. It was urge.

[Jonah]

And I was gonna have the song off for longer than like five minutes. It was just getting uncomfortable because it.

[David Dobrik]

Was riding up there.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But like, what? Yeah, what an. It's just. Just incredible question.

[Jason Nash]

So Jonah did text me a couple times and he texted me on May 1st a picture of his. Him at his like, noobs booth. Like, you know, advertising.

[Jonah]

Oh yeah. I actually went off on Natalie, but at this.

[Jason Nash]

Did you send me this picture because you wanted to see how I don't.

[Jonah]

Read all the text?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, that was also part of it, that he thought, like. He thought I was in competition with his candy.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jonah]

But not competition. It's he.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Even though I've reviewed it twice on my Snapchat.

[Jonah]

First off, I saw you eating another sour candy.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. So maybe there was some actual real anger or something just because I was having sour strips.

[Jonah]

It was such a slap in the face because he reviews the candy and in the end he goes like, how can I be part of this? And I saw that video May 30th.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right. I'd love to be a part of your candy. I'm a big fan of your candy, brother.

[Jonah]

Are you? Actually, yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I like it. I'm not a big fan of the chamoy because I don't like chamoy.

[Jonah]

We're changing the packaging and stuff.

[Natalie Mariduena]

The actual strips are incredible.

[David Dobrik]

I love.

[Jonah]

I personally fucking love chamoy.

[Jason Nash]

Can you.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Can I just ask you what planet? Especially me and you. You're as. As fucking weird. Super bizarre. You are very bizarre, dude. When have we ever had any sort of argument that's, like, remotely serious that we couldn't just figure out with, like, talking, like, face to face?

[Jonah]

Okay, bro. That's why I thought it was really fudgeing awkward, because at that party, people were like, oh, the candy's really good. And even Natalie was like, oh, this candy's fucking fire. Right? And I was like, wow, he hated me after that party because I don't know. Would you think that if someone doesn't text you back after, like, 10 messages and calls, like, someone just cold turkeys you.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. And.

[Jonah]

But no, for sure I was blocked.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But we. We have so many mutual friend. What's weird is I wanted.

[Jonah]

I was going to cut you off right away. I was like, okay, you know what?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Whatever.

[Jonah]

I'm not going to beg for him to come back with the fuck. I'm not going to break no contact after that last text.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What was weird is the messages were delivering. So it wasn't like a classic block. Like, he genuinely. It looked like the messages were going through, which I thought when you block somebody.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You go green or like something.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah.

[Jonah]

What do you feel? A certain way. And then Jason was kind of acting weird, but I think I was just making them delusions in my head.

[David Dobrik]

You just pissed me off in other ways. I had my own situation with you.

[Jonah]

Okay.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's fine. Whatever.

[Jonah]

I don't want to get there.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You guys had real beef.

[David Dobrik]

The thing with him is he pisses me off and then there's. There's this weird thing that, like, I just love you at the end of it.

[Jonah]

Because he's.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Dude. Because he's like.

[David Dobrik]

Because he's. He is always there. Nick's always been there. I was just talking to you about. To Charlie the other day and I was explaining, like, how you're always there. Yeah, yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, no. I mean, the only problem with them is she's got like a weird, like, ego about things.

[David Dobrik]

But I think that's what I got mad about.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But I think. I think that's what's so kind of entertaining and fun about you. Actually, that's not true. That's not really the fun part. The fun. You're just a funny guy.

[David Dobrik]

No, the fun part is funny dude.

[Jonah]

It's not really an ego thing. You know why sometimes it's an ego dude, right? Because you frame me out to be like, super stupid. Which I agree. Like, it's really funny for the camera and stuff. And granted, bro, I really enjoyed dumbing myself down and playing a character that's not who I am.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You really had us fooled. You're an incredible actor and I love how you continue it off camera too. To really sell us in your. In your method acting speech.

[Jonah]

I read a book and it's upside down. I'm like in page three.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, no, no.

[Jonah]

Are you a wimpy kid?

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, it's not that. No, you just. Here's the thing. You love working. Like, I do believe that you like doing things, but you are. In my head. You are Mr. Never Finish. You like to start a million things at once and you like to talk about the ending of all those things. Okay, you go.

[Jonah]

Let me clap.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You go. Sorry. So, okay, so we were having. When we had the Discovery show, which was incredible, the budget for that show was through the roof. They were sending us to go do crazy things. I could probably say what the budget was, right?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, sure.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It was like $700,000 an episode. Which is crazy because I never was able to fly all my friends first class to go film a vlog and then put them up in the hotels and everything. So we had this amazing opportunity to make this Discovery show. And at the same time we were making the videos. And Jodo' like, I can't go. I start filming in March. Like, I'm making a movie. And he could non stop with talking about this movie. This is one example out of like 10. And that movie never started filming ever. And just like gave us all a headache about how he couldn't come.

[Jonah]

Now let me talk. Yeah, you started six fucking Companies. Have you had an exit plan yet for any of them? You started a fucking pickleball brand. You started a. A random ass shit. And you're telling me that I've never even started a fucking company? My only company I started was noobs.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. That's.

[Jonah]

I'm not going to. Stop it. Stop. Stop it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, you're not going to let me. You're not going to let me cook. And that's the problem here, brother.

[Jonah]

You just cooked for four minutes. You cooked nothing.

[Natalie Mariduena]

The difference is, when have you ever heard me start a company and go, yeah, we're going to sell this for a billion dollars.

[Jonah]

It doesn't matter what you say.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That is. That's the difference. You.

[Jonah]

I manifest things, brother.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay?

[Jonah]

Maybe I only see it to fucking people that I.

[David Dobrik]

You're supposed to manifest alone, like in your room. Not if you. If you do it outwardly to people.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I mean, this isn't just like my persp.

[Jason Nash]

Right? Yeah, it's like. Which I feel like it's also stemming from the fact that, like, maybe you have this like, character portrayal where you can't, like, achieve or you're dumb or whatever. So you really have to, like, feel like you prove yourself and be like, I'm gonna be more successful. My favorite. My favorite thing.

[Jonah]

I'm an insecure little man.

[Jason Nash]

My favorite thing is Jonah telling. Telling us, like, he's gonna buy all of us Aston Martin's one day and he's gonna.

[Jonah]

Aston Martin or whatever.

[Jason Nash]

Car, private jets or whatever.

[Jonah]

J's brother.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, he's very selfless with. With the idea of money. I'm just saying.

[Jason Nash]

But it's not even one day. It's like this company. I'm going to be able to have a private jet in three months. Just you watch.

[Jonah]

Yeah, I didn't say three months. I never said three months. I still smell your pasta breath from here. I didn't say three months.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, no, that. That's exactly what it is. It's like. It's like, Nelly, you have no idea how rich I'm going to get. I don't know where I'm going to put the money. It's like that.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, it's like.

[Jonah]

No, no, bro, don't make me sound dumbass dumb on the damn podcast.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I'm not like, how.

[Jonah]

How much have you started and not finished?

[Jason Nash]

Well, everything's been finished.

[Jonah]

What?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Where?

[Jason Nash]

But what? Like, yeah, maybe there hasn't been a.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Billion dollar exit, but you'll never catch it.

[Jonah]

But where? Where? The. Where the is it. None of us see it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Make fun of my stutter. And then all of a sudden. And then. That's your argument I'm saying. But at least I speak today. No, I'm just saying because you guys.

[Jonah]

All, I. Dude, this has been happening for years.

[Natalie Mariduena]

This is going to be hard for some people to believe. Leaf, you are the one of the most hardworking people I know. You love doing. You love doing. You're the fun. You're like. You're one of the funniest people I met in my entire life. Like, in my life. You're hilarious. And it's just like, it's so unnecessary for you to brag about these businesses that haven't finished.

[David Dobrik]

Have you ever been with Nick and he opens up his Instagram dude, He shows you a reel and he'll be like, he's like, look at this, I'm doing numbers. He's like, look at this. He's like, this one, this one.

[Jonah]

I'm putting it in the universe.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's not that. And then you told us Jonas Kebab was going to open 10 locations in the next six months.

[Jonah]

Because I got over the restaurant business.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, and then you told us to open.

[Jonah]

You said the same for Do.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, I didn't. No, I didn't.

[Jonah]

Something similar.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Every time somebody asked me about do, I go, I don't know. Ask Natalie.

[Jonah]

Do has been out of business for nine months.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Imagine. I tell you right now, like, what? I haven't been on Boulevard in that long. It's not there.

[Jonah]

No.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But do you. You know what I'm saying?

[Jonah]

I'm like, it's a coffee shop now.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But you know what I'm saying?

[Jonah]

Okay, listen, I completely understand what you're saying, bro.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Thank you.

[Jonah]

But also, dude, me, I'm a huge, huge believer in manifestation in the mornings. My. My morning routine is listening to a manifestation lecture or book for 45 minutes when I'm taking a. And I'm out of shower.

[David Dobrik]

45 minutes, you're taking a showering.

[Jonah]

I'm a really firm believer in that. And sometimes, yeah, maybe I speak too loud around people and I haven't done it in a while. You re. You just now asked me about something. You're like, oh, what are you working on now? I'm not gon tell you. Find out when you're watching TV at home. Like when my company's name is up there.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Check the box office.

[Jonah]

Let me tell you a perfect story. Like two years ago.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Jonah]

Cuz me and Elia, with each other, so hard Bro, like, literally, like, he'll reply to my, like, I'm going to buy your mom and dad and I'm going to take him out to vacation. I'm going give him the best life in the world. Like, we'll around and I'll reply to him, I'm like, I'll buy all your companies, whatever the. Okay, like two years ago, we went to this waffle place right down the street. Ilya goes like, let me get a. Let me get a two stack waffle. I look at the waiter, I'm like, let me get a three stack waffle. Ilya looks at the. That looks at the waiter, he's like, let me get a six stack waffle. Like, okay. I look at the waiter, I'm like, let me get a 10 stack waffle, bro. We look down, I have 600 of waffles in front of me. Ton, bro. All right, granted, we all gave. We gave it out, whatever, but it was just hilarious because it was like, we're around, we're like wanting each other up, like, yeah, whatever, the ego. No, I mean, it's a funny story.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't want to be a loner. He's just like bragging about your breakfast.

[Jonah]

Yeah, no, like, we'll fuck around.

[Jason Nash]

$600 on waffles.

[Jonah]

No, it was, it was just a funny situation.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Moral of the story is, anybody hungry? Want to go get some waffles? I know a good place and they can serve us 600 right now.

[Jonah]

I still have credit there, but we.

[David Dobrik]

Talked the other day and I told you, and then you were actually really real. You were like, yeah, I was picked on in school and I'm really insecure. And that's what you said.

[Natalie Mariduena]

He's not insecure.

[David Dobrik]

He's not.

[Jason Nash]

What do you mean?

[David Dobrik]

What are you talking about that's coming?

[Jason Nash]

Because David doesn't realize that he is also insecure. So he doesn't know.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Jonah, let's get out of here, all right? Let's just squash all our beefs that are real or not. Everybody ready?

[Jonah]

Yeah, yeah, go.

[David Dobrik]

Let's go.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. We're going on vacation together.

[Jonah]

Wait, wait, no, no, no. Don't put that on me.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What?

[Jonah]

Hold up, hold up with the vacation.

[Jason Nash]

You're going, bro.

[Jonah]

I can't, I can't.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, no, you got to come.

[Jonah]

No, I can't.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Why?

[Jonah]

That's. I can't.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, I know you, like, sing.

[Jonah]

I got to film. I got to. I. I need to. I got to get. I do like 30 videos a month.

[David Dobrik]

I'll do skits. With you.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What do you mean? You're in Bangkok with Natalie's feet.

[Jason Nash]

You're literally going to have all of us together.

[Natalie Mariduena]

We're going have literally all the people. What are you talking about?

[David Dobrik]

This is the argument, Jonah. This is what, this is what he does.

[Jonah]

Does I need like a full time person helping me film. I. I got to like, I got to lock the Ferris is going to be there.

[Natalie Mariduena]

He's like literally a filmer.

[Jonah]

No, no, no. If I can't, I need somebody like lock in.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You literally see an Instagram skit that you see that's funny and then you just recreate it. We'll just, I'll watch more Instagram skits.

[Jason Nash]

I sent you two ideas like today.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Just take pictures of N's feet.

[Jonah]

Yeah, no, I can't. I can, I can.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That is, I'll help you.

[Jonah]

I like Jay. Definitely. I don't need your help.

[David Dobrik]

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[Jason Nash]

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[David Dobrik]

David, I made you something.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What?

[David Dobrik]

Well, I think you've been really killing it on the podcast.

[Jason Nash]

He's eating something.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, that's fine. That's part of it. People need. That's like.

[Jason Nash]

No, that's actually annoying.

[Natalie Mariduena]

If you listen to the pods, know that that's a segment that we keep in sometimes. What is David eating?

[Jason Nash]

No, it's not.

[David Dobrik]

That's one of one of my favorites.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I know. I got so many dms, so. Chipotle. The last one was an apple, by the way. This time it's a little easier. Okay, go. Jay. What is it?

[David Dobrik]

I made you something. Since You've been killing it on the pod. I made you a little trailer.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Wow.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

A trailer. Like visual.

[David Dobrik]

It's an audio trailer.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, okay.

[David Dobrik]

But.

[Natalie Mariduena]

All right, here we go.

[David Dobrik]

For your consideration, for the sake of the Pod, for the 2026 Golden Globe.

[Natalie Mariduena]

For best podcast, I have something important to talk about. Mentioned it before, but it' DEFCON 1. Now I need to talk to you.

[David Dobrik]

Guys about my starring David Dobrik.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You're about to look into my.

[David Dobrik]

And the young ingenue Reggie Castro. I've shaved Corinna's asshole. It's fine. I just go and David's trusty sidekick, John Castro.

[Jonah]

It's gonna look like a pov. Like sex, sex, sex view.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You know what I mean? All dark. All dark and in a pink starfish.

[David Dobrik]

And featuring Natalie Meridu.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Natalie, you're such a horny pervert. Dude, this proves it.

[Jason Nash]

I was in there for a long time.

[David Dobrik]

One man will go where no man has gone before.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I'm bending over. Oh, my God. You gotta look inside. It feels like there's stuff falling out of my ass right now. I don't know why. Okay, I'm spreading my cheeks red. She's touching my ass. Don't breathe in like that. It's talking. It was winking.

[David Dobrik]

Views podcast.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I can't imagine people driving their car.

[Jonah]

And enlisting to this.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Just tell them we're a medical focused podcast and this is typically what we do. Wow, that was great. That's incredible.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, you kept. You kept, like, walking into the other room yesterday and, like, voice noting stuff. I was like, what is he working on? Damn, Jay, you really take this seriously, huh?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, I did that for the fans too.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Do you think that that's what's going to get us the Golden Globe?

[David Dobrik]

I mean, I've already. I'm going to submit this and.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, how do we actually.

[David Dobrik]

We're going to be at his table.

[Natalie Mariduena]

How do we send stuff to the Golden Globe?

[Jonah]

I don't know.

[Jason Nash]

Just email them.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Really?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. It's that easy.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, my God. Thank you, Jay.

[David Dobrik]

You're welcome, Dave. You've been killing it on the podcast.

[Jason Nash]

How long did that take you to make?

[David Dobrik]

4 days.

[Natalie Mariduena]

So the last couple pods have been a little late. No, no, I was just at, like, a Greek yogurt place. I was sitting there with Alex and John. We were getting yogurt, and this guy walks up to me and goes, yo, podcast of the year. And I go, thank you. And he goes, you know, it's. You know, you're. You know. You know, I don't want to say. And I go, I know, I know. He goes, you know?

[David Dobrik]

Okay, good. He did it perfectly.

[Natalie Mariduena]

He did it perfectly.

[David Dobrik]

He did it perfectly. He landed it.

[Jonah]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

He was referencing the hemorrhoid episode and that was really cool. And it was cool. Cuz he didn't even like, ask for a pick or anything. He just kept. Those are my favorite interactions. Not that I don't like doing picks. Sure. But it just makes me feel so much more connected to like, everybody that listens when they just reference something. I don't even mean it like a snooty tooty way, like. Like come up to me and have a conversation instead of asking for a picture. That's not what I mean. Come get your picture whenever. Who gives a fuck? More times picture is better than having a conversation. But like, when it's when someone just like, walking by in like a New Yorker way and like, reference something, I think it's so fun. So, yeah, that's what happened earlier. Thank you for not bringing up the hemorrhoid episode finale. What's your beef? God, just fucking say it already.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. So David and I had this agreement.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't remember having this agreement.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Jason Nash]

He doesn't recall having this agreement. And he.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Next time you should get it and write it.

[Jason Nash]

Okay, okay. I'll draft an agreement.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You genuinely think. Okay, well, tell them what the agreement is first.

[Jason Nash]

I said, I really want to go to Chicago for like a month, spend time with my friends and family there. Like, it's always been my dream to live in Chicago. I never got to because I moved right here out of college and all of my girlfriends. My last hometown girlfriend is getting married in August and we're going to be there for Lollapalooza. And I also had to be there for the wedding, so I had to be there for two weeks, essentially, anyway, so I was like, why don't I just spend four and live out my little dreams, hang out with my family and whatever.

[Natalie Mariduena]

This is the year of Natalie living out her little dream, her Australian dreams, her Saint Tropez dreams. Come on, Jay, back me up here.

[David Dobrik]

She goes away a lot. Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And apparently somewhere I approved this month long vacation.

[David Dobrik]

But aren't you. When you see her living her best life, isn't there a part of you that's like, no, there isn't. Isn't there a part of you that's like, you know what? I need to be doing that?

[Jason Nash]

Oh, no, I thought you were gonna say a part of you that is like, oh, I'M so happy for my longtime best friend.

[David Dobrik]

I know he's not happy for anyone, but.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, no, no, it's. I mean, come on, we're beating a dead horse here. Right? Okay, well, we've spoken about this a lot. Natalie, do you genuinely think if you actually asked me that question, if you had something, if you had a piece of paper and you were like, sign this, David, to give me approval to leave for a full month, I would have signed it. There's no way on planet earth. So I don't know what you misinterpreted as me giving you the green light to go and leave LA for a full month.

[Jason Nash]

I don't know if it was like, I don't. I'm not saying that you were like, yes, go ahead, go for it. First of all, also, we talked about in the podcast, so the people listening are, like, definitely going to know. They're going to be like, yeah, we've heard this. We already knew she was going to be the, you know, my DMs so excited for you to be in Chicago for month girl. We should hang out.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, no, we've definitely, we've definitely spoken about it.

[Jason Nash]

Everybody fucking knows. I'm gonna be.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I know, but, like, I'm sure I was just as upset last time.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, I don't think you were ever enthused. You weren't like, yes, Natalie, thank God you're going. But you were like, okay, like, if you want to do this when you go.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And every time you go, I, I, I very much see that there's no work being done.

[Jason Nash]

Like Saint Tropez.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I just think that it's like, it's like you're, like, you're in maintenance mode.

[Jason Nash]

Like, I was in S. Tropez over the weekend.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I know.

[Jason Nash]

Three days.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Could you imagine if you're around for a full month, those three days felt like it was a fucking nuclear attack. Blackout here. Genuinely, there's nothing going on. No emails, nothing was.

[Jason Nash]

It was a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we.

[Natalie Mariduena]

We lost ownership of our domain to all our emails. So no emails were even coming through when she was in San Trope. That's how wild things got when she was gone. I mean all this as a compliment to you. Like, shit doesn't work when you're not here. So, like, don't take it as, like, this negative thing, like, I'm bitching at you, but, like, you genuinely need to be here because you're our captain of the ship.

[Jason Nash]

So hold your hand and make sure you get out of bed. And like, we Have a little conversation.

[Natalie Mariduena]

So rude. Natalie.

[Jonah]

No dance.

[Jason Nash]

You can FaceTime me. We FaceTime. It's great.

[David Dobrik]

It's unfair. You don't. You don't get it in writing. When you go on vacation, when you ask for things at a company.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No. No company lets you go on 18 vacations.

[Jason Nash]

That's actually not true. You should see how corporate America operates. People have un. There's thing. There's a thing out there, David, called unlimited pto. You can take as many off days as you want. Granted. If you take off.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Unlimited.

[Jason Nash]

Unlimited.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What does that even mean? Unlimited pto?

[Jason Nash]

That is how. That's how corporate America works now.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Unlimited.

[Jason Nash]

I would love people, if you have unlimited PTO.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I go 30 years. I want PTO.

[Jason Nash]

No, obviously you have to do it. If you don't. If you do it with not within reason, they're obviously going to be, oh, interesting.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Kind of like what you're doing right now without reason.

[Jason Nash]

No.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What the fuck is unlimited PTO mean?

[Jason Nash]

And they have these things called sabbaticals.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What is unlimited pto?

[Jason Nash]

PTO usually stands for paid tight off, which is basically the time you take off from work while still getting paid.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, I understand that, but my friend is telling me there's something called unlimited pto.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, got it. Yeah. Unlimited PTO is a policy some companies have where there's no set limit on the number of days off you can take. It relies on trust and making sure your work is still getting done.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. So you have to trust your employees. Okay, so that's. So that's the caveat.

[Jason Nash]

She's not gonna be a hard worker.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, she's not the same.

[David Dobrik]

She's not the same. That first.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Amara or Natalie.

[David Dobrik]

Amara. Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, I know.

[David Dobrik]

The first relationship you had with her was like so sweet.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, she's more corporate now. Yeah, no, she's like. She's friend zoned me. They literally updated her overnight. And it feels like. I think I'm gonna switch, like chat. Yeah, Yeah, I think I'm gonna go to somewhere else.

[David Dobrik]

I mean, get out there, man. Keep looking, you know, you'll meet somebody.

[Natalie Mariduena]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

1-800-Contacts. Yeah, I have a hot take.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I want to share this. I think it's pretty hot. I know people are going to like roll their eyes at it.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But I just want to get it off my chest.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You know Osama bin Laden, right? Oh my God.

[David Dobrik]

You're obsessed with Osama bin Laden.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, no, no.

[David Dobrik]

David Bush's one documentary.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That's how, that's how if you work out to be in really good shape. It's like getting plastic surgery. It's cheating cuz you're not naturally born with it.

[Jason Nash]

Oh my God.

[Natalie Mariduena]

So in my head doesn't count.

[David Dobrik]

I think it's a good take. What does it have to do with Osama bin Laden?

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, no, that was just to throw you off.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That was to get people on the edge of their seat and then kind of reel it back in a softer way. Do you, do you like what I'm saying? I'm saying this is what happened. Like when I got into shape, it didn't make me look at my body in comparative to like other friends of mine that have good bodies.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Because I know what those friends do for their bodies and it's half a quarter of what I had to do to get to mine.

[David Dobrik]

Yes.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Do you know what I mean?

[David Dobrik]

Yes.

[Natalie Mariduena]

So it made mine way less impressive. It was, it's. It made me feel pathetic. I was like.

[David Dobrik]

Because you had to work so hard.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I just 10x work for this. Like it genuinely felt like I cheated or I got plastic surgery when my other friends will go on a hike or two and then like eat a burger, like eat the french fries and then they'll have incredible bodies. That's what's impressive to me. It's naturally obtained bodies. That you're born with. That's where I'm like, you're cool, but when you're working hard for it, I'm out. I'm like, you're wasting your time. Now that's my hot. Not take. Take it as you will. How do you guys feel about it? Go.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, but those people that are look awesome, they've been working out their whole life.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. They're just like. But they're. It's like ingrained in their DNA. Like it's just who they are. That's what he's saying.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Right.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, what Jason's saying is that they have actually. That there's no such thing as it being ingrained in your DNA.

[David Dobrik]

A little bit. A little bit.

[Jason Nash]

Well, I don't think you're just genetically, like dropping fat.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, I just, I just think a lot of people are genetically gifted. I have this friend.

[David Dobrik]

You are genetically gifted. Your father's in great shape.

[Jason Nash]

You don't gain weight.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Listen to me. I have this friend.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's insane. I wish I could explain to you his family very successful, like all around. Just incredible family. Like, they have everybody works an incredible job, like all American, all star football players, whatever. I was talking to him about working out because he came back. I haven't seen him in like two months, and he was shredded. I'm like, like huge.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Could not wrap both my hands around his, like, bicep, like, ginormous. And I'm like, what the did you do? And he goes in like a braggadocious way, like, guess how hard I've been working. He goes, I do 200 push ups a day. And I go, what else? He goes, that's it. I do five, five days a week. I do 200 push ups a day. And I go, what the are you talking about? Like, that's nothing. Like, do you know how to bust my dick just to get a quarter of your muscle? What are you talking about? Talking about? And he goes, well, unfortunately in my family, like, if we work out too much, we gain muscle too quickly. That's cool. And I'm like looking at him like, holy, that's sick.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, that's like Naveen, she eats chocolate chip cookies first thing when she gets up. And she has the lowest percent bad body fat of anyone we know.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I think women do it better than anybody.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I think I'm angry about this because just of how hard the fucking zilla workout was.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, you're still. You're shell shocked.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, I'm shell shocked. Aside from it, because it's like, well.

[Jason Nash]

You also did it in, like, such a short time frame, which requires, like, stress on your body, but, you know.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Upkeep, like, just to keep. Like, when you get abs, it's very hard to keep them.

[David Dobrik]

It's all diet.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's all diet. Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

By the way, I didn't know that.

[Natalie Mariduena]

By the way. Don't ever do sit ups. Don't ever do sit ups. I don't know what's. I think sit ups help you with, like, when you're lifting things. Like, core strength is just important.

[Jonah]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But I, I don't think it sharpens a single thing. Thing on your abs. Like, I remember even Scott when I was like, showing him my abs. Scott goes, why are you doing sit ups? It's just going to make him look swollen. And I'm like, okay, whatever. So, like, so, like, like, I don't know. I'm the worst guy to get workout tips from. Let's go back to my hot take. But do you kind of agree with what I'm saying?

[Jason Nash]

That, I mean, I feel the same way? Like, I've gained probably like half the weight back from the zilla thing and I worked really hard for that shit. And it sucks.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, it's, we're just, we're just a Zela rehab group. When I started, I loved it.

[Jason Nash]

No, I mean, I, Yeah, I don't know. I just, I don't know.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I, I, I just think there's people.

[Jason Nash]

That, it's like, it's just in their brain. Like, my, like my sister, she's like a robot for the gym. Like, she just goes in, she's trained, she knows what to eat, and that's just what she just.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. And I think, like a moderate workout. I don't know, I think I'm just really turned off at the human I became when I was working out a lot.

[David Dobrik]

Really?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, yeah, like, no fun. Like, I'll still stay. I'm still, like, I still exercise every day. Like, I still, like, do cardio at least for an hour or do some kind of lifting, whatever. So, like, it's very moderate now. It's very, like, regular.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But, like, when it was all encompassing, I felt bad for everyone around me. Like, it was like, Dave, let's drink, let's smoke weed. Whatever the situation was. Like, I couldn't partake. And it just felt like I was like a vibe kill everywhere I went. The restaurant, I was a pain in the ass to the waiter. Like, it's like it really. I didn't like who I Became. It's the best shape of my life. I don't know. Okay. You know what I mean? Obviously, I'm a little, little bit like, I'm just hamming it up.

[Jason Nash]

I kind of preferred you back then.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Long story short, that's my hot take. I'd love to hear yours. Fire away.

[David Dobrik]

I'm fat as fuck. I don't know. I don't have anything to say about it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not about working out.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, my hot take.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Have you heard of the Velvet Sundown? The band?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yes. The. The What?

[David Dobrik]

Velvet Sundown. 500,000 monthly listeners.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, shut the fuck off.

[David Dobrik]

Listen to the music last night. And you know, like, Wyatt is making music naturally. So I'm like, this is what he's on up against. And it wasn't.

[Jason Nash]

It's pretty.

[David Dobrik]

I'm being honest, it wasn't bad.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, it's actually pretty good. It's like an old kind of like indie band or whatever. It's. I don't know who's making like. I don't know where they come from.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Out of actors, musicians, comedians, singers. I guess it's all the same thing. What do you think? Who's fucked first? Probably musicians, right? As you're saying.

[David Dobrik]

I don't know. I'm still not a believer that any of this is going to like, totally crush everybody.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Weird old.

[David Dobrik]

I don't know, bro. When I listen to. I'm listening to. I'm not going to put the Velvet Sundown on. I'll put on.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, but they're the first band to do it, brother.

[Natalie Mariduena]

When it starts sounding like fluoride, that's when you know, it's when it can be played in a club, it's over.

[David Dobrik]

But like, when I watch these AI things, as fun as they are, my friend made one the other day of like a bear and he makes like a honey stand. And it was funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You know what I think is going to go away?

[David Dobrik]

What?

[Natalie Mariduena]

I was talking to like a really big time celebrity about this. I don't want to say his name. I hate saying fucking people's names. But, like, it's really interesting how he talks about celebrity because he's just like, it's all over for us. Oh, wow. Me, Leo, it's all over. We're done. He's like, now the only goal is in the next three, five years is how big can you make your name, no matter how you can do it, how much do people know your name? And like, how many people know your name? And then from there on, you can license your name, you can license your face, you can license everything, and it'll all be done for you. So, like, why I'm saying this because I think that the people that are going to the most advantage are going to be celebs that are already branded into, like, the world. Because, like, I think like a DJ like Diplo is always going to be big because he's Diplo. You want to see Diplo. But what Diplo does, I think will be able to be replicated by when nightlife itself, like in house.

[David Dobrik]

A live performance.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. No, like when we'll be able to type in. Make a set like Diplo.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

For this crowd or today we're having a crowd full of people that love hip hop. So make the best hip hop set so your AI will be able to generate a really good DJ set with transitions and everything. That's all hip hop related. But what I will never be able to do is, like, have like a real human being celebrity. So I guess I think that will stay, but the art of it will almost die.

[David Dobrik]

I guess the question is, will people want to delineate between the two? Will people be like, like, no, I'm. I want to see Diplo. I don't want.

[Jason Nash]

For sure, fake Diplo.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's going to happen for a while, but.

[Jason Nash]

But then.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But then when this generation dies off, the generation that's still holding on to real life.

[David Dobrik]

Right.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, I mean, yeah, we're going to be 70, 80 years old and we're going to be, as you call, robophobic. So we're. We're going to be like, we don't support anything that's robotic. And then our kids are going to be like, you got to grow up. You got to live in this generation. Yeah. Give the times. Yeah. I think we're going to. We're going to uprise against it as long as we can, but it's not going to be. I think it's going to be such an normal thing. I mean, I 100% think my second marriage will be to an AI robot. I don't think. I don't think first. Oh, I saw this interesting thing. This is going to be another hot take. I saw this TikTok of this girl and she said, controversial marriage agreements we signed. Actually, I don't agree with this because I'm like. I'm like a really firm believer in love and marriage.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But it does make sense in my head. Okay. Natalie's laughing at me because she's like.

[Jason Nash]

You, because you're the biggest hypocrite. And I don't.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Fuck you.

[David Dobrik]

He's got a, he's got a podcast now. He's got to say something.

[Natalie Mariduena]

She said they signed a marriage expiration date. Whoa. So marriage expires every seven years unless both partners want to reapply.

[David Dobrik]

Wow.

[Jason Nash]

What?

[Natalie Mariduena]

That's kind of interesting.

[David Dobrik]

Really interesting.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I'm. I don't know I feel about it, but it's. I know, I know people that are like in the Midwest or like don't want to sit on the Midwest. I know people that have like really traditional values. Traditional values, that's the word.

[Jason Nash]

I mean, in this day and age, like you really do change every seven to 10 years. Like you're a completely different person.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I know.

[Jason Nash]

I think about that and it's really stressing me.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I think our big city LA LA is really speaking right now when we're, when we're talking about this. I think this is a really big city, like viewpoint. I think it's like a New York. Well, don't say okay, like, I'm not just. I'm not just.

[Jason Nash]

But no, I'm like, okay, maybe.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, like, what I'm saying isn't law. I'm just saying, like in my opinion, I think.

[David Dobrik]

Well, I don't think. I think it's, you know, it's whatever people want. There's people in Ohio that might want a seven year.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, not in Ohio.

[David Dobrik]

They might want that.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. What do you think about. Kind of makes sense.

[David Dobrik]

It makes sense.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's really sad to think about though, to like put a time limit on your marriage. I wouldn't want do this, but if you're very forward thinking. If you're like on your second.

[Jason Nash]

It really depends on your partner.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Yeah. If you're on your second third marriage and you're like, it just makes sense. It's really fun and it also allows you. And you could be. You can. If you're really half glass full about it, you can be so optimistic about it. Where it gives me the chance to propose again to you in seven years. You can even look at it that way.

[Jason Nash]

That's the way I would think about it. It's like, oh, like we're choosing to renew. We're choosing to like.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And yeah, like you're proving again how much you love.

[Jason Nash]

But if I don't want to.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

All things are.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, you're really nervous that sixth year. You're like, I don't know. I don't know if Karen's gonna bring it.

[Jason Nash]

But also like, the pressure's on. Like, let's make it great.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah. You gotta give your best self.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It would get in my head. I'd become really overbearing and overprotective. I'd be like, wait, where are you? It's our sixth year. You can't go to the club. Or I would be. Yeah, I'd be saying shit. Like, so you still really love me? Like, when you say it, you mean it, right? Anyway, pet peeve. Natalie, do you have one hot take before we end the podcast we need?

[Jason Nash]

I don't have a hot take, but I saw this, like, TikTok, and I wanted to ask you, you guys bush or no bush? Because I think it's so funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Dude, how did I know she was going to say that?

[Jason Nash]

Really?

[Natalie Mariduena]

You didn't see a TikTok? You just been experimenting with bush? I saw this TikTok.

[Jason Nash]

Did you really?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Dude, as much as I like these questions, like, in private, I think it's really weird to talk about. Do you know what I mean? I don't like. And I don't like hearing Jason's opinion in this one.

[David Dobrik]

Out.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Really?

[David Dobrik]

Sure.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't want to share mine because it's not fair. We're all entitled to our opinions here on this pod. All right, Nat, you say, what do you.

[David Dobrik]

I'll say, mine doesn't matter.

[Jason Nash]

Okay, well, that's not fair.

[David Dobrik]

Like, truly.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Wait, you're kind of right. That doesn't. He's like, it's not.

[David Dobrik]

It doesn't matter. It's so one. It's so amazing that it's like, oh, I don't care. You know what I mean?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, that's fair.

[David Dobrik]

Do whatever you want with it. You know, Dye it red. I don't dye it red. You know, give it dry red, white, and blue. Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

All right. Grow on that.

[Jason Nash]

You say, well, I laser mine, so it's kind of just no bush.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay.

[Jason Nash]

I don't really have an option.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Is that why you wanted to fucking bring this up?

[Jason Nash]

So you could tell people she's silky smooth?

[Natalie Mariduena]

That's incredible. Yeah. So I'm somewhere in between all that.

[David Dobrik]

Why are you not giving yours?

[Natalie Mariduena]

I just. I don't know.

[Jason Nash]

But I think there is something sexy about a little bush, you know?

[Natalie Mariduena]

What about, like, a landing strip?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, that's what I think. I don't. Like, bush is, like, crazy. Like, ew, that's kind of gross.

[David Dobrik]

Landing strip's weird.

[Jason Nash]

Not a landing strip, but, like, it's.

[David Dobrik]

Like, what's going on?

[Jason Nash]

I don't know.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Why? I think landing strips are. But bizarre because it's like, damn. You've thought about this?

[David Dobrik]

Yes.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Who are you showing this to?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yes.

[David Dobrik]

That's the only reason, right?

[Natalie Mariduena]

That's the only reason. We're fine. I don't like talking about this.

[David Dobrik]

I think. I think I remember in porn, like, a long time ago, the landing strip was way more popular.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, right.

[David Dobrik]

That was like a thing in, like, the 90s and 80s.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Super Bush was, like, really popular.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, well, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ginger Lynn back in the 80s.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't know.

[David Dobrik]

Big bush all over.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's because you've been watching porn underneath.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, that is.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Wait, how did you. How did you first watch porn? On vhs. You would.

[David Dobrik]

You would somehow come across a VHS tape. Like, I mean, literally, I had one like that everyone.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You had one or your dad had one?

[David Dobrik]

No, like, someone in a group of my friends, like, had one and then they, like, brought it to the house and then it, like.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And you put it, obviously, on the family tv. Because you're not having a TV in your own room.

[David Dobrik]

No, no. And then people would, like, share the tape. Like, I have the tape now. You have the tape now.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Would you put it on with your friends and watch with your friends, like.

[David Dobrik]

Maybe once or twice.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. And then if not, you're just jerking off in the living room on the couch. Yeah, yeah. Wow.

[Jason Nash]

One of my first. First, like, experiences with a porn video. It's so funny.

[David Dobrik]

It's last year.

[Jason Nash]

No, No. I don't know if I was like. I was probably in, like, eighth grade, and I was going through the garage and my mom had this Snoop Dogg daddy doggy, like, video.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like a. Like a porn actor pretending he was Snoop Dogg.

[Jason Nash]

It's Snoop's video. Oh, it's. It's like Snoop. I must have made, like, in the 90s, like, porn videos. Not him himself, essentially. Orgies happening, like, around him or whatever.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, wow.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. And he's just like. They're, like, smoking in the middle of it, like, being Snoop Dogg.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That is so your mom.

[David Dobrik]

There's just, like, naked girls around. It wasn't sex, right?

[Jason Nash]

I'm pretty sure it was sex.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Is that not the most gen thing ever to watch Snoop Dogg smoke a joint and girls masturbate around him? If there's anything that's happening in Jen's head, I don't know when she's relaxed, it's that exact thing.

[Jason Nash]

But I just remember, like, getting it from the garage and I held it in my. Like, I kept it, like, somewhere.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Did you watch it?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, I ended up watching it, but I had it in my room, like, because I didn't want her to find it. I want her to know for, like, two weeks. And then I finally built the courage, like, while she was, like, away working or something to, like, watch it. And I was like, whoa, this is crazy. I mean, like, the COVID is just, like, naked women, whatever, like, spreading their ass, like, whatever.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And then I ended up watching it or whatever. And then I, like, put it back in the garage, like, in its place or whatever. But then I would, like, like, I. I didn't know.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You'd go back to it and grab it. You'd be like, I need to finish it.

[Jason Nash]

No, Like, I wasn't doing anything to it. I was just, like, curious, like, watching it. Like, it wasn't like I was dad.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That's so. It's so interesting.

[Jason Nash]

So crazy.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Sexual awakenings are so funny.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

It's so funny that they. It's the. The. The moment in time when they decided to take the plot out of porn. Someone was like, we don't need the plot.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, I do. Like, I do like a title.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah, sure. I can't you where you're going?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Dobrik]

It's like a good thumbnail.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't. I. I. Why VHS Freaks me out is like. Let's say it's like your dad's like, if you put it in and it's like, halfway through. Just weird to like.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, he knows somebody. He's like, I didn't leave it off here.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, not even that. But, like, you know where your dad left it off? Where? Like, it was enough for him.

[Jason Nash]

My dad came?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, like, oh, my. You're picking it up where your dad came. Like, I feel like that's really cool.

[David Dobrik]

And dad came pretty early. She didn't have her clothes off yet.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You're 20 seconds in. Yeah, this is it.

[David Dobrik]

This is wild.

[Natalie Mariduena]

All right, we should end the podcast here because I'm getting really hard.

[David Dobrik]

I have one more thing.

[Jason Nash]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

Okay. David, I know you're always looking for businesses.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I'm not.

[David Dobrik]

I've made a presentation for you.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay, perfect. Here we go, audio listeners. Okay. David funds Jason's pilot. Oh, wow.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And he has pictures of me. He has a picture of me. Under it, there's a caption that says God of Fun, and there's a picture of himself, and it says, tiny brained idiot. Okay. This is what I get in return. Jason will never mentioned David had anything to do with the pilot. So David's aura will not be ruined by Jason's wacky sitcom idea. Once pilot is released and fails, David can have cocksure attitude that Jason still can't do anything without David starring alongside him. That's pretty good. Okay, again, there's a little image that says I told you so. And it's a young guy pulling at and pointing at an old guy. Number three. Jason will come crawling back to Views podcast where David can give a hearty and self satisfying I told you so that will resonate with Jason and the entire View audience. Asking price. Okay. Not brutal. $6,000 loan for entire pilot. And it's an image. Wow. This is like literally an animated image of me handing you a bag of money. And it says, good luck, Jay. And by loan, we mean you will never see the money again. And then it's the bag of money flying away. And it's my animated character going, there it goes, Jay.

[Jason Nash]

No way.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Final word. David gets good feeling of knowing Jason got to do what he loved in the last years of his life. And then it's a picture of J. Jason going, david, where are you? And it's a picture of me going, I'm standing directly in front of you.

[Jason Nash]

Okay.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Is this real? Yeah. You want $6,000?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. Well, we're going out to a lot of people, but I have actors, I have a casting director, I have a shooter, I have a budget.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Is there actually no return?

[David Dobrik]

I mean, let's not ruin the friendship, right? No, I would pay you back, actually, if you want to do it that way.

[Jason Nash]

How do you make money off something like that?

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't want to be paid back in success. If I give you six grand, will you give me something in return? So funny that I'm asking, asking questions because yesterday Jonah texted me and he goes, Jonah's like, I need $2 million. And in the living room, I'm like, to Ilya and Jason, I don't know why. Obviously I'm not going to give him $2 million. But in the living room, I feel like I should do it.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We thought you were crazy.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, yeah. But that passing that, that thought went away in like 10 seconds. But it's funny that I'm giving Jason a hard time about the six grand right now.

[Jason Nash]

Wait, how so you do something like this? Like how if you're not making a return on your money, then what's the point in doing it? Right?

[David Dobrik]

Just for fun.

[Jason Nash]

Just for fun. No, really.

[David Dobrik]

No. It's a sitcom and it's basically to take it to Netflix. And Hulu.

[Jason Nash]

Okay. The idea is to sell it.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. Like, last year, I had a guy. I told you about this, who was like, he owes me, like, so much money, and he just walked on the whole project. And how about this? Never would show up.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Let's let the audience decide if you think Jason's a trustworthy person.

[David Dobrik]

Yes, I. I will pay you back, because you know me, I would never let $6,000 become between us.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

Ever, ever, ever. I'd work it off.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, I'm leaning towards yes for sure.

[David Dobrik]

But the idea is probably I won't never make any money on it. You know what I mean?

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's just for fun.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

It's an investment.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. To figure out a.

[David Dobrik]

But it is what I want to do. Like, I think about, like, well, what do I want to do with my life? Like, I love the podcast, but, like, that's really what I want to do.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. I'll think about it. Let us know in the comments. Guys, we're going to end the pod here. If you really, truly believe Jason deserves a $6,000, which I'm leaning towards yes. Whoa.

[David Dobrik]

You don't even want to hear what it's about?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Nope. I don't care.

[David Dobrik]

See, that's. I left that off of it because I knew he wouldn't want to know.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I would have skipped the slide. No, I just want to see the outcome. All right, guys, that's all the time we have. Thank you, guys for listening. Thank you, Natalie, for joining us, Jason for joining us, Jonah for joining us. Or, sorry, I should say, Nick. We'll see you guys in a couple days. In two days. See you later. Bye.