David's Roommate Reveals the Truth

Summary

VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: David's Roommate Reveals the Truth

Date: July 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode of VIEWS, David Dobrik and Jason Nash are joined by regulars Natalie and Julia, diving into behind-the-scenes roommate life, travel misadventures, internet puzzles, and a candid look at purpose and happiness in their friend group. The episode is packed with signature banter, tangents about lost luggage, viral TikToks, the infamous “psychopath test,” and the surprising upsides of finding contentment right where you are. Plus, listeners get an inside peek into what it’s really like to live in David’s house—from privacy negotiations to high-energy houseguests (looking at you, Ilya).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Jason’s Trip & Luggage Fiasco

• Jason recounts his trip to New York, including helping fellow passengers (and forgetting his own suitcase at baggage claim).
  • [06:10] “I go, oh my god, I forgot my suitcase... And I was like, I hated that suitcase.”
  • The group debates whether leaving your bags at LAX is secretly a life hack, as David shares he’s done it himself with no fee ([08:07]).
• Discussion on travel essentials, preferences on carry-ons, and the peculiar kindness of LAX baggage delivery.

Madison Square Garden & Family Events

• Jason describes attending a Bon Jovi concert at MSG and narrowly missing a potential “on-stage” moment for his mom ([11:30]).
  • Memorable anecdote: “There was a possibility... Bon Jovi would’ve brought her on stage to sing to her. She would’ve actually diarrhea’d.”

The “Best Sandwich” and Viral TikTok Moments

• Recurring joke about Jason’s GF Taylor’s epic sandwiches. The group debates absurd price points and jokes about starting a sandwich shop at Doughbrik's ([12:31]).
• Viral TikTok moment: Jason discusses the Rizzler’s answer to “who would you trade lives with for a day?” - A homeless person, sparking a deep tangent on perspective ([14:11]).

Internet Mysteries and AI Paranoia

• David brings up stories of reincarnated kids solving their own murders, launching the group into a spiral about TikTok’s reliability and AI-generated stories ([15:08-16:36]).
  • [16:29] “What’s real?... Social media sucks because you hear this incredible story... and you don’t even know anymore.”

Audience Impact and Notable Listener DMs

• Listener DM shares how an old podcast riddle led to a relationship and marriage ([21:07]):
  • [21:16] “Whenever I went on dates, I’d ask the women that question [the psychopath test]. They loved it... Met a girl who studied psychology. We’re now married.”

The Psychopath Test

• The infamous ‘psychopath test’ is re-introduced. Multiple housemates and guests try to solve the riddle, exposing how differently people approach dark logic puzzles ([22:07-26:17]).
  • The answer: She killed her sister to have another funeral, hoping the mysterious man would return.
  • [26:15] David: “Oh, yeah, that’s it.”
  • [26:20] Natalie: “Damn. That’s crazy that that’s what comes to your mind.”

The Paywall Controversy

• Banter over rumors of the podcast going behind a paywall—with David and Jason mock-arguing over technical glitches and calls from SiriusXM ([20:00] onwards).
  • [20:07] “Why are you trying to squeeze our audience for every single penny?” – Jay
  • [20:36] “Every time [the podcast goes behind a paywall], it’s because there’s a new program that Jason’s fucking around with.”
  • They clarify the podcast is intended to stay free.

The Case for a Video Podcast

• Longtime listener emails in advocating for the return of a video version, saying it deepens the sense of connection and helps squelch internet rumors ([28:02]).
  • [28:50] David: “Seeing people on the video pod made me more curious about their content... The visual connection was the part that made the podcast feel more personal.”

Roommate Revelations: Julia’s Perspective

• Julia shares what it’s really like living with David and the crew—it’s surprisingly low drama and high energy ([34:04-37:07]).
  • [35:17] Julia: “It’s entertaining enough where something’s always going on, but I don’t have to exert myself... I could go and be calm and... come downstairs and there’s always something to do.”

The Ilya Situation

• Biggest roommate annoyance? Ilya barging in and blaring music in the morning:
  • [36:41] Julia: “He’ll come into our room, all unannounced, like 9AM. He doesn’t even live here.”

Work, Purpose, and Having Fun

• Conversation pivots to work ethic and the meaning of success, using Ilya’s Zeal business as a jumping off point ([38:36]).
  • [39:58] Jay: “…when it does happen, I’m still gonna be pissed at you because you could have done it three years sooner, and you could have done it in a more fun way.”

David’s Secret to Happiness & Perspective

• David’s ability to find contentment and “glorify” everyday situations becomes a topic. Natalie observes that he doesn’t seem attached to outcomes or worry ([41:29-41:48]).
  • [41:48] David: “You think the secret to his success is that he doesn’t care either way or he’s so confident that he knows it’ll work out for him?”
• David’s worldview: no matter what job he has, he can convince himself it’s the best gig ever ([42:04]).
  • [42:04] Jay: “If I was working as a substitute teacher in Wyoming, I would genuinely believe that I have the best teaching position in all of Wyoming... For some reason, I could just kind of paint it as, like, the best in my head.”

Burnout, Drive, and Sacrifice

• A vulnerable moment reflecting on burnout and sacrifice for the content and fans:
  • [44:05] Jay: “I have such an opportunity where I get to make stuff for people... if you have to sacrifice your own health, mental health for it, it’s 1000% worth it.”
  • [44:58] Jay: “Burnout still came,... but it had to because that’s all I love doing.”

Comfort & What’s Next

• Jay jokes about how newfound comfort (and roommate life) has made it harder to be productive ([45:16]).
  • [45:16] Jay: “That came with my new enemy, and that’s comfort. And that’s hanging out here with my roommates.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [11:30] Jason, on missing a backstage Bon Jovi moment:
  “If Bon Jovi sang a specific song, he would have... brought her on stage to sing to her. She would’ve actually—I'm not even kidding—probably diarrhea’d.”
• [16:29] David, on viral reincarnation stories:
  “What’s real? ... Social media sucks because you hear this incredible story from India, right? And we should be getting on a flight immediately to go confront this kid... and you don’t even know anymore.”
• [21:16] Listener DM:
  “Whenever I went on dates, I’d ask the women that question [the psychopath test]. They loved it... Met a girl who studied psychology. We’re now married.”
• [26:15] David, revealing the correct answer to the psychopath test riddle:
  “Oh, yeah, that’s it.”
• [35:17] Julia, on living at the house:
  “It’s like entertaining enough where something’s always going on, but I don’t have to exert myself...”
• [41:48] Natalie, about David:
  “I feel like David’s very, like, internally at peace, you know? He doesn’t care if it goes one way or the other, he’s cool with it just... going.”
• [42:04] Jay, on mindset:
  “For some reason, I could just kind of paint it as, like, the best in my head.”
• [44:11] Jay, on creator burnout:
  “Like, that is the best gift. And, like, if you have to sacrifice your own, like, health, mental health for it, it’s 1000% worth it.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------| | 01:03 | Natalie and Jason introduce the episode crew | | 06:00 | Jason’s lost luggage & LAX delivery debate | | 11:30 | Bon Jovi concert/life updates | | 14:11 | The Rizzler TikTok/philosophical detours | | 15:08 | Viral reincarnation stories & social media skepticism | | 21:07 | Listener DM about the “psychopath test” | | 22:07 | The “psychopath test” - discussion & reveal | | 28:02 | Case for returning to a video podcast | | 34:04 | Julia reveals the truth about roommate life | | 36:41 | Ilya’s aggressive houseguest energy | | 38:36 | Debates about work ethic, success, & fun | | 41:29 | David’s chill worldview dissected | | 44:11 | Creator burnout and meaningful sacrifice | | 45:16 | Comfort vs. hustle in creator/roommate life |

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Episode Vibe

Hilarious, fast-paced, and surprisingly deep, with honest takes on fame, burnout, camaraderie, and what it means to be happy--all filtered through the zany, no-holds-barred dynamic that characterizes the VIEWS squad. If you want a glimpse of life inside the chaotic, supportive, and occasionally exasperating Dobrik house, this episode’s for you.

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End of summary.

Transcript

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[Jay]

What's up, guys? Welcome back to Views. We are back with another podcast episode. Natalie Meridu is here. That's the woman we film with. And then Jason is here. That's the man we are. We film with.

[Natalie]

Wow. I don't know if viewers knew.

[Jay]

Yeah, well, I just want to make sure.

[David]

Hello, David.

[Jay]

Natalie's the woman. Jason's the man.

[David]

Checking genitalia.

[Jay]

And I'm the dude. Guys, I just got back from New York. This is the.

[Natalie]

Yay.

[David]

Welcome back, brother.

[Jay]

I know you guys missed.

[Natalie]

We're so happy to have you here again, David. We missed you so much.

[David]

Oh, that tone is not good.

[Jay]

She's a bitch. No, sorry. My mom says that.

[David]

I'm really happy you're here.

[Jay]

Thank you.

[David]

You know, and I have to say, I owe you a lot of gratitude.

[Jay]

Wait, what happened?

[David]

Well, Wyatt has been locked away all summer. I can't even see him.

[Jay]

Yeah, which is a good thing, no?

[David]

Yeah. Working 10, 12 hours a day on his albums. And, you know, we owe that all to you, that work ethic.

[Jay]

What? What the fuck do you mean?

[Natalie]

That was the craziest pivot.

[Jay]

You didn't impregnate me. What are you talking about?

[David]

Remember? He was here. He told us that.

[Jay]

Oh, he told me that he. Yeah. Yo, I have such a bad memory.

[David]

Oh, especially when it comes to Wyatt.

[Jay]

No, it's everything. Even my mom today, when I was with her in New York, she goes. She goes so what'd you think of my voice in the recording for Jason's show? For Jason's show. And I go, oh, I haven't heard it yet. And have we heard it yet, Nat?

[Natalie]

No.

[David]

Yeah, we have.

[Jay]

See, I didn't think we heard it either.

[Natalie]

We played it on the pod. I haven't. I haven't.

[David]

And we played it on the pod. Maybe you weren't here.

[Natalie]

Oh, wait, we did.

[Jay]

Yeah, you were here.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I was here.

[Jay]

Exactly. I was like. To my mom, I was like, I haven't heard it yet. And she's like, it's on the podc. And that was like, the fourth time I messed up with my mom. I had just, like, the worst memory.

[David]

I do, too.

[Jay]

I just don't remember a single.

[David]

There's so many things coming at us every day. Especially you guys, who are so busy. It's insane.

[Jay]

I don't know why.

[Natalie]

It's impossible.

[David]

My friend.

[Jay]

Can I tell you about my. Wait.

[David]

My friend?

[Natalie]

He.

[David]

I've, like, reconnected. Like, my best friend from college. And he tells me stories. We go to dinner and he'll, like, tell a story to Naveen. And he'll be like. And it'll be a great story. And I'll be like, and then what happened? And he'll be like, you were there.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[David]

You were fucking there, man.

[Jay]

No, Taylor tells me shit about when we, like, first. She first started working for me. She has like, 50 stories that I've just never even heard of.

[David]

Really.

[Jay]

And I'm like, what?

[Natalie]

Well, that was.

[Jay]

I did that.

[David]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

No way. And then what happened? I was. Okay. So I was just. I just flew in from New York for the first time in, like, a long time. I brought a carry on. Like a away suitcase.

[Natalie]

A roller carry on.

[Jay]

A roller carry on. Not like a backpack. Cause I normally bring my

[Natalie]

big pillow bag.

[Jay]

No, I brought the big pillow bag, too. But I bring in a checked bag so I can bring my duvet and everything.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And this time I was like, fuck, I'm staying at the Langham. It's a nice hotel. I don't need to bring my duvet, so I'll just bring a carry on. It's a day and a half trip. Whatever. So then when I landed here in la, I was surrounded by a bunch of older women on the flight. Like, it was just. I don't know what was going on. And Madison beer. Madison beer was also on my flight, which is really. I haven't seen her in over a year, which is really nice to see. Her. And there was another famous woman who the flight attendants were like gushing over. They were like, we're such big fans. She was like an author, like, looked like very like Meryl Streepy.

[David]

J.K. rowling.

[Natalie]

Mel Robbins.

[Jay]

What?

[Natalie]

Mel Robbins.

[Jay]

Maybe I just feel like blonde.

[David]

Yes.

[Jay]

Okay. Maybe.

[Natalie]

Can I show you a photo of her?

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Natalie]

She is an icon.

[Jay]

Does she fly from New York to la?

[Natalie]

I'm sure, yeah.

[Jay]

They were gushing lot. So. So at. When I got off the flight, I was helping all the women with their suitcases. Cuz every dude, I think this was her.

[Natalie]

It has to be her.

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this was her. Wow.

[Natalie]

Damn. What a poll.

[Jay]

Good job.

[Natalie]

Thank you. Nice job.

[Jay]

I think it was Mel Robbins. Yeah.

[David]

Wow.

[Jay]

I definitely know that name.

[Natalie]

Wow. What a flight. Madison beer and Mel Robbins and David Dobre. Crazy.

[David]

Who would have thought. Damn. If that went down. Yeah. That'd be headlines. Who'd be last. Who'd be last mentioned in the newscast?

[Jay]

Sure.

[Julia]

I don.

[Natalie]

No, maybe not. No, no, I think.

[Jay]

Oh, Madison just played Madison at Square Garden. So I was talking to her about it, which was like her dream sentence. What?

[David]

Madison just played Madison Square Garden?

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah. It was really. We were. I. I went to New York because I was going to a Bon Jovi show. Yeah. For Emma at msg. And I was with Taylor and I was like, do you think it's gonna be cold in there? And she goes, of course not. Like, it's a garden.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I'm like, it's not a garden. She thought we were gonna be sitting outside, like in the heat wave of New York. Which is kind of crazy because I feel like everybody knows what Madison Square Garden is. And Taylor, like, it was like an amphitheater, like picnic style.

[Natalie]

I wouldn't pick Taylor to be like a concert venue.

[Jay]

Really.

[Natalie]

I feel like savant.

[Jay]

Well, because then I was like, Taylor Swift just got married here. I was like, trying to explain to her.

[Natalie]

That is interesting.

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah. She's like, how do you not know that? Like, you're the biggest swifty. Anyway, so I was getting off the flight, helping all the women off the flight, and then I got to my car.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Alex was picking me up and Taylor's putting in her suitcase into the car. And I go, oh, my God, I forgot my suitcase. No, just on the flight, while you

[David]

were helping all the women, you forgot your own.

[Jay]

Completely just forgot.

[Natalie]

Oh, my God.

[Jay]

On the flight. And then, and then I was like. I started walking back to go get it.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I was like, I hated that suitcase.

[Natalie]

No way. You just left it.

[Jay]

And I was like this. I've never. And I said this to Taylor, and I didn't say to me, where are you?

[David]

When you realize that, you know, I'm at the.

[Jay]

Outside the terminal.

[David]

Okay.

[Jay]

Like by the car.

[David]

Definitely could still get it.

[Jay]

I'd have to go through security.

[David]

No, they can bring it down.

[Jay]

I've had it. Okay. This is my other thing. Taylor magically packed the worst bag of her existence. Like, the items inside, the items were like, my least favorite clothing of all time. I was shocked when I was going through. I'm like, taylor, there's nothing here that I like wearing. There's one pair of pants, my green nude project shorts that I always wear, that those will be missed. Will be missed. But yeah, I was just like, we might as well just leave it there. So then, yeah, so I left my suitcase there, which is kind of crazy, but I was just like, I can't. I can't turn around.

[David]

So then what'd you do? Did you buy clothes?

[Jay]

No. This was when I landed here in la.

[Natalie]

It's like a couple hours ago.

[David]

Oh, in la?

[Jay]

Yeah. I was just. This is. This just happened. I've never done it.

[David]

They could bring it to you.

[Natalie]

Yeah, they can just deliver it.

[Jay]

Really?

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I don't even have like a name on the suitcase or anything.

[David]

We had such a rough flight coming back from Croatia that when we landed, Naveen was like, we're not getting the luggage. We're just going home.

[Jay]

Shut the fuck up.

[David]

Yeah, she was in such bad shape. And I was like, haha, that's funny. And then, like, we went through customs and I was like, let's get the luggage. She was like, nope. She's like, I'm getting in the car. I'm going home.

[Natalie]

No way.

[David]

I was like, all right. Whoa.

[Jay]

What car did you get into?

[David]

We got into like a Uber. Like a Uber Tesla. Like an electric electronic.

[Jay]

But like, where did it pick you up? Like, was it ready to go? Cause sometimes by the time everything's called, you might as well get your bags. So I'm just trying to see, like, you went through customs. Your bags could have already been there.

[David]

I looked. They weren't there yet.

[Jay]

They weren't there yet. Was it spinning? Not yet, no. Oh, okay.

[David]

We went right through.

[Jay]

And then what happened? They delivered you the bags?

[David]

Yeah, we got the bag like 36 hours later.

[Jay]

What was the fee for that?

[David]

None.

[Jay]

What?

[David]

I don't think so. I don't think there was a fee.

[Jay]

Lax just Brings you the bag for free.

[David]

Yeah. I definitely didn't pay a fee.

[Jay]

Oh, my God. I'm leaving my check. I'm leaving my carry ons there every time. Just going to leave my backpack, my pillow there. My pajamas. Do you bring. Where the fuck is my eye mask? Why did you forget my eye mask on the plane? Yeah. That's really funny. Yeah. So now I know. Now I know that that's.

[David]

What'd you do on the flight?

[Jay]

Dude, I had the best seat. You know how JetBlue mint has like.

[David]

Which one did you get?

[Jay]

I got the solo pod. I know.

[David]

I never get solo pod.

[Jay]

I know, I know, I know.

[David]

Wow.

[Jay]

I was really nervous.

[David]

Even when I've paid for first, that solo pod is so hard to come by.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Yeah. If I knew I was flying, I was kind of like not looking forward to the New York trip because I hate traveling.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But the fact that the solo pod was there would have never complained. From the beginning. I asked my mom when I got to the airport.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I was like, do you want. Do you want me to come to the concert or do you want this to be like a girls? Because this is what happened. And Taylor fucked up here. Taylor texted my sister, like, what time we should meet and where we should grab dinner in New York. And then my sister responded in a way where she didn't know that I was coming.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I'm like, oh, I thought this was mandatory. Like, I thought this was at the levels of Christmas.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

With my family. So I was like, oh, I gotta go to this. To this. I'm not a big concert guy. I. If I was to see anybody in concert, it'd probably be Bon Jovi, to be honest. Cause I just. I do love Bon Jovi. And I. And I'm a big 80s 70s 90s fan. Like, I love that time period. But, like, I still would rather just like, listen to music in my car and definitely not travel for anything. So I asked my mom, like, do you want. Do you want me to go to this? And she's like, yeah. Like, I was at the airport already and I was like. And she's like, what, are you just gonna turn around right now? And I'm like, yeah, but like, if this means, like, if. If you want me there and if. Cause my brother wasn't coming, my dad wasn't coming.

[David]

You've said stuff like that to me. That is the worst.

[Jay]

Well, I did.

[David]

That is the worst thing to say to somebody.

[Jay]

But she was like. She was very clear. She was like, if you Even think about turning around, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna throw the biggest fucking fit here.

[David]

Wow.

[Jay]

I'm gonna start crying at the airport.

[Natalie]

Good for her.

[Jay]

And then I was like, what if I start crying here at the airport?

[Natalie]

She's like, go ahead, try me, B. Tch.

[David]

Wow.

[Jay]

Yeah. So now I went. But it was really fun.

[David]

Where were the seats?

[Jay]

So they did this. The seats were like, on the side with his friends and family.

[David]

Great.

[Jay]

And then they had.

[David]

Did you go backstage?

[Jay]

We missed the backstage because my sister had to fucking. We had to give. My siblings have a dog, and we had to give the dog to a babysitter before, and it had us miss the backstage time, which I feel like my mom could have met Bon Jovi again, which would have been really exciting for reunion, but whatever. But they're. Yeah, they. They bring you for, like, three songs. They, like, rotate in people to, like, be right on basic. You're basically on stage, on side stage, watching it. So that was really exciting. But there was a possibility. I told my mom this, that if Bon Jovi sang a specific song, he would have. Shoot. He would have brought her on stage to sing to her. Should have been fucking crazy. Would have been crazy and didn't happen. But, like, my mom would have actually. I'm not even kidding. Probably diarrhea.

[David]

If you hadn't. Didn't have those dog problems that might have happened. That might have planted it in his brain, like, oh, you know what?

[Jay]

Oh, she's here.

[David]

Let's do a Christina thing. Mmm.

[Jay]

Maybe.

[David]

Unless, you know, he was gonna do it for Mel Robbins. I don't know.

[Jay]

Maybe Mel Robbins is there too. No, but other than that, the concert was really fun and it was really. I've always been scared of Madison Square Garden.

[Natalie]

Yeah. How was your Madison Square Garden experience?

[Jay]

It was so easy. Well, I think it's because we were on Bon Jovi's guest list.

[Natalie]

Well, yeah, that helps.

[Jay]

So, like, we, like, went through the side. It was really incredible. And then the best part about it was like. Yeah, we just, like, took an elevator and we were right up to our seats. It was really, really easy. Yeah, it was really easy.

[David]

Can I get half of that sandwich?

[Jay]

Oh, yeah. Guys, my sandwich just came.

[David]

Taylor just brought in the most delicious looking sandwich.

[Natalie]

It's.

[David]

I don't know. We've spoken about this sandwich before.

[Jay]

I don't know how she does it. I'm going to describe it.

[David]

Describe it.

[Natalie]

No, we described. This will be the eighth podcast in a row we've described this goddamn sandwich. I know, but it's just take.

[David]

Take a photo for your snap. Okay, but I want to really is something.

[Jay]

I want to start selling the sandwich.

[David]

I know, I know.

[Jay]

Area. Is that crazy? I'm going to sell three sandwiches a day.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[Jay]

For 100 bucks a sandwich. I think that makes sense.

[Natalie]

No one's going to buy $100 sandwich. I mean, it's. Maybe they're evil. Well, for sure. Three people.

[Jay]

Yeah, three people.

[Natalie]

I guess. What do you like, you're just posting this year? Like followers, like, hey, come by my house. I got three sandwiches for $100 each.

[Jay]

I don't want to do it at my house, but yeah, it's three sandwiches each.

[David]

Oh, if only you had a restaurant.

[Natalie]

What a great idea.

[Jay]

Oh, fuck yeah. I guess I could sell it at Doughbrick's. Gotta have a food restaurant. Yo, did you see the Rizzler clip? Did you see this? You know who the Rizzler is, right?

[Natalie]

Of course.

[Jay]

He's that, like, cool. Really? The guy that's been like eight years old forever?

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

He's not part of the Costco guys, but okay. Mentally group him in, you know, the Rizzler, of course. Yeah.

[David]

What do you mean he's not part of the Costco guys?

[Jay]

He was.

[Natalie]

He's not in that family.

[Jay]

He's not in that family.

[David]

He's their friend, right?

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah. You just like, kind of. Yeah, he's like a neighbor. Like, you group him in with the Costco guys.

[Natalie]

Costco adjacent.

[Jay]

Yeah, he's Costco adjacent. He had a clip. It was incredible. It's an incredible clip. He's on a podcast and someone asked him if you could trade lives with anybody for one day, who would you trade with?

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And he goes, a homeless guy.

[David]

Okay.

[Jay]

Yeah. And then it cuts to like an edit of like this philosophical, like, edit. And the top.

[Natalie]

Philosophical.

[Jay]

Philosophical.

[Natalie]

Philosophical.

[Jay]

Philosophical.

[Natalie]

Sorry, dude.

[Jay]

But it's incredible.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And the top comment of that TikTok is best written character on TikTok, by the way. So funny. But it's. It really is an incredible answer to that question.

[David]

Why did he say that? To feel what it's like to have nothing. Yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

Like he put himself in the shoes of someone that would want to be him. It's like, really interesting.

[Natalie]

It is a really interesting answer.

[Jay]

It's like, actually, all jokes aside, brilliant. Like, it will. There will nothing. You know what I mean? You could be. I don't know, you could be Michael Jackson for the day. Jesus Christ. For the day. Whatever. Like, there's nothing there's nothing more eye opening, I think, than being somebody that has less than you.

[David]

Yeah, you're right.

[Jay]

And the Rizzler put. He's fucking 8 years old, by the way. That's fucking pretty incredible.

[David]

How is he still 8? He must be 10 by now.

[Jay]

I don't think so. I think the Rizzler ages in kind of like the same way a cat would or a dog would.

[David]

Have you seen this thing that, like, kids, that. It was like a story in India. The guy, the kid is born, he's like 8, he's like 5 years old, and he basically solves his own murder from his past. Yeah, from his past life.

[Jay]

Yes, I've seen that.

[David]

What is that? Is there like a doc on that that we can watch? I've only seen TikTok.

[Jay]

Have you seen this, Natalie?

[Natalie]

No.

[Jay]

You're not even paying attention. You're fucking ordering food. I know you're ordering sandwiches here. You saw the fucking sandwich and now you're on doordash.

[Natalie]

It does smell good, but I'm not on doordash. I had lunch already. Thank you.

[Jay]

Okay, well, anyway, there's this kid in India. He was born as a kid. He's a baby now, and somebody that died around the same time he was born,

[Natalie]

he's like reincarnated into him.

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah. And he's solving that murder.

[David]

So he goes, he takes his parents to where he was murdered, and he sees his wife and he talks to the wife and he goes, I know who killed me. He goes, the child goes, I was shot in the head. And the woman goes, yeah, you were shot in the head. And he goes, and I know who did it.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[David]

Isn't that crazy?

[Natalie]

So did he just solve the murder? Wait, sorry, is this real?

[Jay]

Well, this is a story from India. So it is a couple continents removed.

[David]

Yeah. I mean, it's all over TikTok.

[Jay]

Yeah. So it's like, how real is it? I don't know.

[David]

He's not the only kid to.

[Natalie]

Well, have we seen him speak?

[Jay]

I fucking hate how we. We don't know if these supernatural things are real. Have you seen the TikTok that? It's like, hey, I've been seeing a lot less AI content recently on my feed.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And then it's like, I've been seeing a lot less AI content on my

[David]

feed recently, and it is AI.

[Jay]

Well, no, it just. It just makes you think that, like, what are you.

[Natalie]

What's real?

[Jay]

Yeah, like you're not actually seeing less AI content. You're just like. You're Not. You don't even know anymore. Yeah, it's kind of fucking crazy.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And like I don't know that's a side conversation from this but like I do. I'm kind of bummed that we don't know if why I don't like social media just sucks because you hear this incredible story from India, right? And we should be getting on a flight immediately to go confront this kid

[David]

and to break this story a long time ago.

[Jay]

Even as yeah, whenever. I don't care. We're seeing it now. We should be going there right now.

[David]

But the problem is is that as the K get older they lose the ability and someone's saying like there was one comment that was like, well, that's why they put kids into school. So they will forget.

[Jay]

That's a little anti school.

[David]

But yeah, I know you loved high

[Jay]

school, but yeah, people should go to

[David]

high school and have the time of their lives.

[Jay]

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[David]

I didn't want to tell you. How did you know?

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[David]

They're gonna make me take out Sharded. I think. No, no, don't just send it. I'll send Sharded. Cause I love it but it will come back to me.

[Jay]

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[David]

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[Jay]

Prices may be higher for delivery. Can we also talk about this, Jason? Every now and then I get.

[Natalie]

Every now and then I get a little.

[Jay]

Don't laugh at that. You can't encourage like that.

[David]

Why? I love when I have the same tick.

[Jay]

Actually cut you out.

[Natalie]

What?

[Jay]

Yeah, cut all of you guys out.

[David]

But I.

[Jay]

No, I was just cut. Do you have the same tick?

[David]

I have the same tick.

[Jay]

Like, stop trying to find similarities between you and Natalie, okay?

[David]

Hey, man, we're similar. You know, I noticed something on the phone. Hey, man, I noticed something.

[Natalie]

Yeah, what was that?

[David]

I noticed something on the podcast that you did last week that was so funny. You were mad about me for something in the beginning of the podcast, so then when we got to the second part of the podcast, you outed me about my take on Steve will do it.

[Jay]

What was your. Oh, I did? Yeah.

[David]

Because I think, like, Natalie and I were, like, beating up on you a little bit in the first part of the podcast. And then we got to the second part, you're like. And Jason thinks Steve will do it. Is. Things are not going to end well. And then I was like, I do have a. I did say that.

[Jay]

I do have a complaint about you. You keep putting this podcast behind a paywall, brother.

[David]

Call Sirius XM right now.

[Jay]

Cheap fuck.

[David]

That is so. Bro. I come here, I do my job.

[Jay]

Why are you trying to squeeze our audience for every single fucking penny?

[David]

This is not going in. This is not funny.

[Jay]

It's a free podcast, brother.

[David]

There is. If you were on the calls, if you even answered emails, you would know. I could show you the chain. Not back me up.

[Natalie]

Yes, I back you up.

[Jay]

No, guys, that's not good.

[David]

Backing up, Guys.

[Jay]

Guys, can we. Can we please, once and for all? This podcast is never going behind a paywall. Every time it goes up behind a paywall, it's because there's a new program that Jason's fucking around with. It's either the program's not working or Jason's not working.

[David]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It is not me. I can show you the email.

[Jay]

I believe you.

[David]

There's a glitch. There is a glitch okay, but stop

[Jay]

DMing me saying, like, people will DM me.

[Natalie]

Be like, really?

[Jay]

You're gonna put it behind a paywall now? Guys, it's not fucking happening.

[David]

Well, that's annoying.

[Natalie]

Yeah, yeah, it's just like, don't read the DMS.

[Jay]

What?

[Natalie]

Just don't read into the DMs.

[Jay]

Well, I don't Know, for some reason,

[Natalie]

it's like you're letting people get to you. We should talk about that.

[Jay]

Anyway, this other guy. This other guy DM me saying, impact from listening to the podcast in all caps.

[David]

I don't wanna.

[Jay]

I don't wanna say his name, but. Hey, David, in your last pod, you asked if anyone had any impact from listening to your podcast. And it had a huge impact on my life.

[David]

Wow.

[Jay]

Let me explain. Years ago on a podcast, you asked a question that was used to find out if you're a psychopath or not. Yeah, I found it super interesting. And whenever I went on dates, I'd ask the women that question. They loved it. But it never led to a proper relationship until this one girl I met who studied psychology. We're now married.

[David]

Wow.

[Jay]

Pretty big impact.

[David]

Lol.

[Jay]

Loved the podcast. That's crazy. Now do you remember the question?

[Natalie]

I mean, I definitely remember. I don't know if it's the question,

[Jay]

but it's this one. While at her own mother's funeral, a woman meets a guy she doesn't know. She thinks this guy is amazing, her dream man, and is pretty sure he could be the love of her life. However, she never asked for his name or number and afterwards could not find anyone who knew who he was. A few days later, the girl kills her own sister. Why did she do it?

[Natalie]

The girl kills her own sister.

[Jay]

You know who we should bring in for this? Julia, John's girlfriend. Because she, I feel like, is like a really good puzzler. She's a good puzzler. Julia, can you come here real quick?

[Natalie]

I don't like riddles.

[Jay]

This isn't a riddle. This is just to check if you're a psychopath or not and killed her sister. And I am straight up not a psychopath.

[Natalie]

I think you answered in a psychopathic way.

[Jay]

I answered it, but it was. It was. What was interesting about the answer is it was clear as day. It was clear as day. Like the answer that I had to pick. So I. I don't know. I am a little worried about myself too. Julia, I'm gonna give you a question and you tell me. This is to determine if you're a psychopath or not. Okay? Okay, okay. I'll read it once more for the viewers. While at her own mother's funeral, a woman meets a guy she doesn't know. She thinks this guy is amazing, her dream man, and is pretty sure he could be the love of her life. However, she never asked for his name or number, and afterwards could not find anyone who knew who he Was a few days later, the girl kills her own sister. Question, why did she do it?

[Julia]

She kills her sister.

[Jay]

Kills her own sister. I love this question because I'm the only one that's answered it in this specific way. And it truly is so baffling to me because I don't know if I'm proud of it or whatever it is.

[Natalie]

I mean, I think I have an answer.

[Jay]

I get. Okay, I get so excited by it. But I remember when I was asked it, I answered immediately, because there's no other way to answer this question.

[David]

Right. And that means you're a psychopath, apparently. Yeah.

[Jay]

But I didn't believe the person because I don't know who asked me if it was, like, Matt King or something. He's like, oh. And then I was like, what? Yeah, that's the answer. Then we asked, like, eight other people.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And it was answered completely the opposite way.

[David]

I remember now.

[Jay]

And I was so fucking baffled by it. I was like, oh, my God. Maybe I'm like, actually something wrong with me. Julia, how would you answer it?

[Julia]

Was the person like, the sister's husband or boyfriend or something like that?

[Jay]

That's exactly how everybody answers it.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Very interesting.

[Natalie]

I'm pretty sure that's how I answered it originally.

[Jay]

That is how you answered it originally.

[Natalie]

The sister fucked the guy that she was in love with or something.

[Jay]

So should we ask Taylor, too?

[Natalie]

Sure.

[Jay]

Tay, come here. Guys, I just asked Taylor the question. Here's her answer. K. Tay, what's the answer?

[Natalie]

Because, like, I know, like, the first thing that comes to mind, but I'm

[Julia]

not saying I would do it. The sister.

[Natalie]

The sister was dating or hooked up with the guy.

[Jay]

Okay. It's really interesting.

[David]

Wow.

[Jay]

That's really crazy.

[David]

Now.

[Jay]

I'll keep it. That's really interesting. We need to call somebody that we think is a psychopath.

[David]

Okay.

[Jay]

Who is it?

[David]

We've cut all those people out of our lives.

[Natalie]

We call my mom.

[Jay]

Wait, should we call your mom?

[Natalie]

She actually just got out of surgery, so she won't even pick up.

[David]

Naveen's not a psychopath in any way, but she's good with riddles.

[Jay]

No, Naveen will answer.

[Julia]

Wait, is it a riddle?

[Jay]

Naveen will answer this the way I would answer. Yeah, I'm not even gonna tell her it's a psychopath test. I'm just gonna ask her.

[Natalie]

I am on the edge of my seat. I want to know what this answer is.

[David]

I remember it being something like, wait, this is.

[Jay]

Wait, wait, don't say yet. Let's look so let's. Naveen. Naveen, can you answer this question? You're on the podcast. Ready?

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Okay. While at her own mother's funeral, a woman meets a guy she doesn't know. She thinks this guy is amazing, her dream man, and is pretty sure he could be the love of her life. However, she never asked for his name or number and afterwards could not find anyone who knew who he was. A few days later, the girl kills her own sister. Why did she kill her sister? She killed her sister because she found out the sister killed the mom. This is fucking crazy. No, it's not. It's.

[Natalie]

The sister was.

[David]

I don't know.

[Jay]

What's the answer?

[Julia]

The sister.

[Jay]

I have to hang up for the rest of it, but I'll tell you. No. Okay, fine. Okay, okay.

[Julia]

Did the sister know who the guy was?

[Jay]

Oh, my God. This is crazy.

[Julia]

Because she couldn't find anyone who.

[Jay]

Okay, can I just tell you guys? Because I feel like she killed the sister because she wanted to have another funeral so the guy would come back.

[David]

Oh, yeah, that's it.

[Natalie]

Wow.

[Julia]

I did not even go there at all.

[Natalie]

Damn. That's crazy that that's what comes to your mind.

[Jay]

Yeah, but because. And nothing else made sense. That's like the only thing that is. That actually adds up. Everything else is. You're just assuming, Julia, lock your door

[David]

tonight, then you go to sleep.

[Natalie]

Well, no, but you're also assuming that he's going to show up for another thing.

[Jay]

It's the closest. Like. Like it's the closest assumption that is.

[Julia]

Cause I get.

[Natalie]

Really?

[Julia]

No one knew him. Obviously the sister didn't know him. Why would he come to the sister?

[Jay]

Because he knows somebody in the family.

[David]

Imagine you kill your sister, he doesn't come. That'd be crazy.

[Jay]

I'm really confused by that question.

[Julia]

You answered that immediately.

[Jay]

Immediately.

[David]

Well, I'd also say that's just like high intelligence.

[Jay]

Not only that, but I remember I was like, well, this is the obvious answer, but I'm trying to see what the psychopath answer is. And then I was hunting for what you guys were trying to do. Dude, can somebody please, please. Podcast listeners, can you please ask people in your life that question? And just DM me if anybody. Yeah, it's really fun. Ask the people that you think would answer it the proper way. Monday AI agents took over my work and I absolutely love it. Chasing deadlines, writing status reports, updating stakeholders.

[David]

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[Jay]

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[David]

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[Jay]

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[David]

focus on the big stuff.

[Jay]

Knowing everything runs smoothly in the background. It's completely shifted the way we work.

[David]

Create your own AI agent in minutes. On Monday.com we got a great email about a video pod. Reasons for the video pod, not that I care.

[Jay]

Yeah, for sure. You have no skin in the game.

[David]

I don't want a video pod. Yeah, I'm not interested in it. But I'll sum it up really quick. I felt more connected and engaged when I could actually see everyone. The serious moments landed more strongly and the funny moments felt even funnier when I could see the reactions, smiles and laughs, not just to hear it. When people who weren't always in the blogs appeared on the pod, it gave the whole friend group more context and made it feel like everyone was still connected in one way or another and reduced any speculations I would read or hear about seeing people. I wrote this. Seeing people on the video pod also made me curious about.

[Jay]

There's no way somebody else has this much passion for the video pod as you do. It feels like whoever wrote this is also going to make money when we go to video from the serious team.

[David]

Seeing people on video pod made me more curious about their content. I admit I don't always seek out everyone's channels, but when I saw them setting off and ended up checking people like Alex, Jason, Zane and Heath and Scott, it was never about high production value for me. The visual connection was the part that made the podcast feel more personal and easier. Stay invested. To break it down further, in one of the recent pods, Ilya mentioned to be there and spoke very briefly. And then I wasn't sure if he was still there. Quietly engaged. What?

[Jay]

Stepped away. If you guess what number? I'm guessing one through 100. I'll do the video.

[David]

Let's go.

[Jay]

Okay, right now I'm gonna write it down.

[David]

Write it down and give the phone to Taylor.

[Jay]

One. One through 100. Ready?

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Okay, hold on.

[David]

Come on, Nat.

[Natalie]

Okay, I get to say number two.

[Jay]

No, you get. It's just for Jason.

[Natalie]

Why tell?

[Jay]

You can't mouth it.

[David]

Can Nat have a guess?

[Natalie]

The odds are so slim. Obviously I get a guess.

[Jay]

Okay, Jay, you go first.

[David]

Yes or no. Does not have a guess.

[Jay]

No, she doesn't have a guess.

[David]

What should I guess?

[Jay]

1 through 100.

[David]

Julia, what should I guess?

[Natalie]

I don't know. I was like gonna go like I was gonna say, like 42 came to mind first. 43 came to me, but that just feels too obvious. And, you know, he's being a little sneaky.

[David]

Yes.

[Natalie]

Like, maybe 37.

[David]

Oh, shut up. It's just, like, a number to think of. Like, that is, like.

[Jay]

Yeah, it's like one through one through ten. If you pick a number, you're. You're seven.

[David]

Yeah, there's always eight. There's always 96.

[Natalie]

Just straight up eight. I don't know. I just saw, like, four coming out of his face when he was, like, writing it down. I could just feel it.

[Jay]

Okay, guys, one through 100, you get one chance.

[Natalie]

I mean, whatever your heart feeling is feeling. Jay,

[David]

I say zero.

[Jay]

All right, jay, you have 10 seconds to decide.

[David]

18.

[Julia]

Taylor, that is incorrect.

[David]

What was it?

[Natalie]

It's 83. Ah,

[David]

good job, Dave. You win that one.

[Natalie]

He wins again.

[David]

Wins again.

[Jay]

Gotcha, motherfucker. Gotcha.

[Natalie]

Fucking.

[David]

Can I cut the trees down at the new house and get a video pod?

[Jay]

Wait, what happened with that?

[David]

When Nat and I didn't. I was told not to do anything illegal. Cause I had some guys ready.

[Jay]

Guys. I gave them this task that if they cut my neighbor's trees down so I could get a better view, I'd do the video pod. What happened?

[Natalie]

Honestly, I don't think anything happened.

[Jay]

You guys didn't even try.

[David]

You literally told me not to do anything until you got something done. First you were having some stuff caught, and then you're like, don't do anything. Don't do anything. Don't do anything. Just don't even go over there right now. And I was like, all right. Give a fuck up what you do have for a view.

[Jay]

Wow. Okay. That's funny.

[David]

Pretty good email this guy wrote.

[Jay]

That's pretty good. I'll think about it. I'll think about it. Thank you, Jay.

[David]

Jason Biz, Gmail. What else is new? How does everybody feel? Like, about, like, life, Julia, Natalie. Like, is anyone. Do you feel like you have, like, a. Do you feel like you have black by the balls?

[Jay]

I like this question.

[David]

Wait, what'd you say?

[Jay]

I like this question. Go ahead.

[David]

Like, do you feel like you have life by the balls? Like, like, are you like, oh, my God, like, I get to come to this house every day? So fun. Well, for Tay. For Julia. She lives here, Nat. And then, like, do you. Are you guys just, like, so happy and, like, in your. In your era of youth and, like, loving everything?

[Natalie]

I feel like I have a pretty peak, like, life experience, for sure. Like, I feel like my life's pretty fucking great.

[David]

Nice. Well, don't get down on her for answering honestly.

[Jay]

No, I know, I know, I know.

[Natalie]

I'm not saying that, like, in, like, a braggadocious way. It's just, like, I don't really have even. Like. Even if I have, like, something difficult or what, Like, I just, like, don't feel like I have any opportunity or space to, like, complain about it.

[David]

Nice. Yeah.

[Jay]

I hate my life.

[Natalie]

Me, too.

[Jay]

No.

[David]

No.

[Natalie]

The only thing I'm missing is love, you know?

[Jay]

Yeah. But it's impossible for you. I can't. It's not that I don't. I love life, like, a lot.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But I'm kind of lacking a purpose.

[David]

What are you talking about?

[Jay]

What do you mean?

[David]

You make people laugh every fucking week with your friends.

[Jay]

No, but listen, I have this idea with this new house you're trying to get.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And it's, like, really reinvigorating.

[David]

You're gonna take in a bunch of youth.

[Jay]

Basically a boys club. Basically. There's a lot we want to start, and it starts with this home.

[David]

Okay.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[David]

What are you gonna do?

[Jay]

I can't tell you.

[David]

Oh, come on, man. Give us a little taste.

[Jay]

Let's just say a classic big thing's coming. What if we get the house?

[David]

So, like, you're gonna have, like, orphans?

[Jay]

Basically.

[David]

No way. You're kidding.

[Jay]

Charlie and Wyatt will have a place to sleep.

[David]

Oh, my God.

[Julia]

Are you gonna kick John out?

[Jay]

No. John will never get kicked out. You want him to get kicked out? So, Julia. Julia, You're John's girlfriend, right?

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And you kind of fought for your own place.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Before you moved in here with me.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I understand there are some complications to living with me.

[Natalie]

Honestly, that's a good question.

[Jay]

That's a good question. Honestly.

[Julia]

What? I mean, honestly, there's no big complication. That's why I haven't really been like, john, we need to get the fuck out of here. I've been looking for some complications.

[Jay]

Honestly, it's pretty chill.

[Julia]

It's pretty chill.

[Jay]

Well, okay.

[David]

And this is a fight.

[Jay]

Initially, you didn't want to move in.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Okay, so how did that change?

[Julia]

Because John made me.

[Jay]

No, no, I know. I know John made you. But I remember when you guys moved in, it was very much. It was very much like you're hesitant. You were hesitant, and you were like, john, we're only living here till January.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And then we're finding a new place. I don't know what January that was. Was that last year or this year?

[Julia]

Yeah, it was. I said January, and then John was like, no, it's do like April, May.

[Jay]

Was that this year or last?

[Julia]

Yeah, this year.

[Jay]

Oh, okay.

[Julia]

So it's been like five months.

[Jay]

Okay, so what made you change?

[David]

How long have you lived here?

[Julia]

Since October.

[David]

Okay.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Jay]

That's nothing.

[Julia]

Yeah, I know.

[Jay]

Are the vibes just so highly immaculate here?

[Julia]

Honestly? Yeah, I feel like it's. It's like entertaining enough where something's always going on, but like I don't have to like exert myself to find something going on. Like I could go and be calm and like do my own thing and then I'm like, fuck, I'm really bored and I'll just like come downstairs and there's always something to do, but if I get tired of that, I could always just like go upstairs. Yeah.

[David]

Yes.

[Jay]

That's exactly how I see the house too. So that's why I don't leave.

[David]

It's amazing.

[Jay]

You come down, you're stimulated, you're like, that's enough.

[David]

That's what Naveen and I are lacking really, which is just us. We all know what we want.

[Jay]

Like, you guys should move in. We have an extra room.

[David]

Okay, I'm done.

[Jay]

What's like. What's like a fear that you had that maybe isn't as much of reality, like living here? Like, I'm sure it was like, that it wasn't gonna feel like your own space.

[Julia]

Yeah, I think like, it wasn't gonna feel like my own space. And also there'd be like no privacy.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And I think cause I came from having like my own apartment. Like my own thing. So I was so used to having my own space.

[Jay]

No, I try not to walk into you guys. Your guys room.

[Julia]

Yeah, no, yeah, it's like really quiet. It's really quiet in that room.

[Jay]

If I walk in there, Julie's gonna move out. You don' in there very rarely.

[Natalie]

I lived there. You were in there every hour of every goddamn day.

[Jay]

Oh, and you lived here?

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Yeah, but it's like a couple living there. It's like different.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

The only person who bar all the time.

[Julia]

It pisses me off so much.

[Jay]

Wait, what pisses you off?

[Julia]

Ilia. Like, he'll come into our room all like unannounced, like 9am he doesn't even live here. Exactly.

[Jay]

Like, he'll be like, oh, because he's training you guys?

[Julia]

No, just not even for that. Like, John, could I have shorts? Oh, Julia, I need some shirts for like one of the trainees downstairs. And then also, honestly, it's funny cause actually being here, the biggest like thing that's annoyed me is Ilya.

[Jay]

That's really funny because he'll go into

[Julia]

the gym and he's the only person who will put the speaker so loud at 8am we're like, our entire room is shaking.

[Jay]

I'm editing the vlog right now for where we go to the Hamptons.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I bet Ilya to get him to go to the Hamptons. John was sitting in the pool and John had a makeup. This is what I have to do to get Ilya to go to the Hamptons for like Palm Tree Festival. A very fun thing.

[David]

Okay.

[Jay]

We had, by the way, we were taking a private jet there because our friend had a jet.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And we had accommodations in his 30 million dollar house. Like, each had our own rooms.

[David]

Sounds awful.

[Jay]

And I'm begging Ilya to come. This is how I had to get him to come. Okay.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[Jay]

John was in the pool and there was like a little baby pool hoop thing for basketball. And I'm like, I'm gonna give John three shots. If he makes one of them, you have to come to the Hamptons. If he misses all three, I'll give you $10,000. And Ellie's like, okay, fine. But initially he said no to 5,000. Thankfully, John makes the shots. But I had a bet. I had to wager $10,000 to get my friend to go to the hatches. And then we pick him up and he goes. And Scant's filming this. And Ellie's like, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. And I'm like. He's like, it's fucking Thursday and we're going to the fucking Hamptons. It's so funny because it's like. And he even says, he's like, I know this is confusing for people watching, but like, I fucking hate this. It's. It's really funny. It's really. It's like a really crazy.

[David]

What do you think that is?

[Jay]

I don't know. I think he just like. Like he wants to work. He just wants to work.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And we, like, we view work differently. We asked him the other day because we're planning a trip to Kenya.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And then we need people to go that we shoot with. And Ilya's like, if you offered me $10 million to go, I would have to think about it.

[Natalie]

Like he deadass said that.

[Jay]

Like, he actually said that shit.

[Julia]

Why?

[Natalie]

Because he is so locked in on his business and he just can't fathom taking time away.

[Jay]

It's insane. I do think, I do think Zeal is gonna sell for like A good amount of money. I'm not even kidding. Julia's like, laughing like I'm making shit up.

[Natalie]

I mean, you're. God bless you because you have so much faith in your friends around you. God bless.

[Julia]

He can just use the 10 million towards his business.

[Natalie]

I don't get it.

[Julia]

Oh, true.

[Jay]

Wait, what? I'm not giving him 10 million to go to Kenya.

[Julia]

I know that, but, like, you know, that's, like, not a fair statement.

[Jay]

Yeah, no, I understand. I don't think he's. I don't think he's actually being serious about that. I'm shocked you're still caught on the statement. He was just explaining to me how bad he didn't want to go. Yes, There are ways he can use $10 million. Taylor's like, wait, call him back. Tell him he could use it on his business. No. Yeah. I don't know. I do think that it's gonna. I always say this to you. I'm always like, I know you're gonna be successful, and you're gonna sell your business for a lot. For a lot of money.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But when it does happen, like, I'm go. I'm still gonna be pissed at you because you could have done it three years sooner, and you could have done in a more fun way than being. Than being, like, wow. You know, being locked up, working. I don't know. I just. I think we're. I think we're really lucky because our business.

[David]

I love that.

[Jay]

What?

[David]

I just wish. I wish I had a little bit of that in my life. That's so good.

[Natalie]

What?

[David]

Just having fun along the way, that was, like, so hard. It's hard for me to do. So fun. You're the master of it. Do you think so good at it?

[Jay]

Do you think?

[David]

I don't get it. I literally don't know how you do it.

[Jay]

Well, because I kind of fell into this.

[David]

No, I know, but I don't. I don't get how you have that ability to just be like, I don't know, like, yeah, we're just gonna have a good time, and everything will work out.

[Natalie]

I feel like David's very, like, internally, like, at peace, you know? Like, he's very, like, really?

[Jay]

Wow. What a compliment.

[David]

You think so?

[Jay]

What does that mean?

[Natalie]

Yeah, like, I'm not saying you're, like,

[Jay]

a peaceful human, and I answered the psychopath test.

[Natalie]

I'm, like, all, like, in.

[Jay]

When I say I check all the boxes. Psychopath.

[Natalie]

Shut up. When I say at peace, I just mean, like, inside. Like, he. He doesn't care if it goes one way or the other. He's cool with it just fucking going, what? You know, like. Like, I feel like your stances on, like, life and death are very much in line with that. Your stance on, like, if you're gonna pursue business or something is what kind of fun you're gonna have. Like, everything's like, yeah, it's just gonna. I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I do, and it's gonna. It's gonna happen, and it's gonna, like.

[David]

And so you think the secret to his success is that he doesn't care either way or he's so confident that he knows it'll work out for him.

[Natalie]

I don't know if he's.

[Jay]

I'm really good at, like, glorifying. Not to speak over Nat, because I think she's almost making a point, but I'm really good at, like, glorifying things,

[David]

and I needed to put Nat down one more time.

[Jay]

Shut the fuck up. I'm really good at glorifying things. So, like, let's say I would like how I glorify this house. Sure. High school, My friend group. I genuinely. And I'm not just saying it to say it, I genuinely believe in my. My heart of hearts that all these are the greatest of all time.

[David]

Sure.

[Jay]

And that is the same way I'd operate if I had any job. If I was working as a substitute teacher in Wyoming, I would genuinely believe that I have the best teaching position in all of Wyoming and that my job couldn't get any better. And, like, I, Like, I know that with anything, like, anything I do, no matter, like, what caliber it is. Like, I. For some reason, I could just kind of paint it as, like, the best in my head.

[David]

Your worldview is making me very uncomfortable.

[Jay]

Really? Yeah. Is that fair for what I just said? But I am, like, pretty glass half empty. But that's. That's what I'm trying to, like, manage expectation. I never, like, over promising to other people. And I also believe that, like, the people, like, I don't know. That's it.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[David]

He got tired.

[Jay]

Yeah, I got tired. I'm done.

[David]

He said 10 years ago he would have finished that sentence.

[Jay]

This is not fun anymore. New job. Find something else.

[David]

Wow.

[Natalie]

Do you disagree, Jay?

[David]

No, I don't. I don't know what his secret is. I haven't figured it out. But I guess a lot of what you said is true. He does have a good ability to, like. Yeah. I don't think anything gets him too upset if something doesn't happen. The only thing he gets upset about is, like, if the bar is done wrong or something.

[Jay]

Well, I get.

[David]

And that stuff, to me is so frivolous.

[Jay]

I don't know.

[David]

Which is fine.

[Jay]

I mean, this is what I was gonna say before I finished my thought.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I get really upset. Like, you know, like, I'll get angry at you guys.

[David]

Sure.

[Jay]

And I'll get, like, really angry at, like, my friend group. But, like, I mean it out of, like, complete love.

[David]

Right.

[Jay]

And I think that we're all so close.

[David]

Yes.

[Jay]

That, like, it doesn't matter what we say to each other here, because it's just kind of, like, unbreakable and I think. But I. Our job, especially when we were doing the three a week, I was very, like, about, Like, I was very about it with my own health, especially. I was like, it doesn't matter if I get sick and I shrivel up and I die making these videos.

[David]

Right.

[Jay]

Like, I owe it. Like, I have such an opportunity where I get to make stuff for people.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

That, like, my health. And I've always thought this about actors. I have to say this on the podcast all the time. Like, when an actor is like, I wish I had a childhood. Like, fuck you. I fucking hate that. I hate that so much. Like, I would give up my childhood tenfold all the time to be able to, like, entertain the masses and to like. Like, that is the best. That's, like, the best gift. And, like, if you have to sacrifice your own, like, health. Mental health for it, it's 1000% worth it. You know like how they say, like, the YouTubers get burnout. I don't know if I think there are YouTubers that unfortunately have, like, lame YouTube jobs where it's like, a lame YouTube burnout. But I really liked the videos we were making, especially when we're doing three a week. Like, liked so much.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Where the burnout still came.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But, like, it had to because I. Because that's all I love doing. So I don't know. I don't know.

[David]

It's like, it's worth it.

[Jay]

Yeah. It's worth it. And it's not even worth it. It's like, you have to do it. Like, you can't not seize that.

[David]

Almost like an athlete.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[David]

Athlete has to train. Sucks. You got to go to practice at

[Jay]

4am No, I don't think it sucks. You have to fucking be excited to go to practice at 4:00am yeah.

[David]

But you have to make sacrifices.

[Jay]

Yeah. Now I'm more at the stage where I'm like, it sucks I have to go to practice at 4am but that came with my new enemy, and that's comfort. And that's hanging out here with my roommates.

[David]

Damn. What are you gonna do this week for in terms of. Let's do the comfort score right now.

[Jay]

Like, what level of comfort am I?

[David]

No, like, what kind of comfort things are you gonna. Now you're home.

[Jay]

Well, I just got fucked. Apparently. I may have to fly to New York tomorrow.

[David]

What?

[Jay]

I just landed today.

[David]

You're kidding.

[Jay]

Yeah, so my comfort levels are teetering. All right, guys. Well, that's all the time we have for today's podcast. Thank you guys for listening. Thanks for vibing with us.

[David]

Yeah, thanks, guys.

[Jay]

Let me know about that psychopath test. I'm so curious. Let me know if you guys want me to. Natalie's feet look kind of intense right now, but let me know if you guys want those pics.

[Natalie]

Can you not.

[David]

Feet pics?

[Jay]

Yeah.

[David]

Of who?

[Jay]

Of Natalie.

[David]

You're selling feet pics of Natalie? It's a great business idea.

[Jay]

It's better than putting the podcast behind a paywall. Jay, you evil fuck.

[David]

I didn't do it.

[Jay]

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