She Crashed My Ferrari

Summary

VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash — Episode Summary Draft Episode for Publish on 2026-07-30

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Episode Overview

This episode is classic VIEWS: a rollercoaster of behind-the-scenes chaos, honesty, and silliness with David ("Jay"), Jason, and Natalie. The crew dives into car mishaps, work burnout, internet drama, celebrity hypotheticals, existential worries, and dating games—all with their signature humor and banter. There’s reflection on their evolving work pace, relatable anxiety about modern life, and a whole lot of friendly roasting. Whether it’s crashing Ferraris, debating if you’d rather be Adam Sandler or George Clooney, or psychoanalyzing your romantic strategies, it’s a roundtable that feels as unfiltered as ever.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Natalie's Rough Week and the Ferrari Mishap

• [00:50-02:35]
  • Natalie confides about a "bad week", only to be roasted by David for scratching his Ferrari SUV with her driveway gate.
  • Natalie clarifies: “I didn’t crash it—my gate closed on his Ferrari SUV… Scratched the fuck out of it.” (00:21, Natalie)
  • David jokes about Natalie’s chain of blame and recounts how her keys getting locked in her own Ferrari set off the domino effect—all caught on security camera.

2. Bad Vibes, Mercury Retrograde & Sibling Blame

• [02:39-03:59]
  • David blames Mercury retrograde for bad luck: “Mercury was in retrograde for me, and I had a pretty rough three weeks. I think I passed it on to [Natalie]…” (03:04, Jay)
  • The gang discusses sibling blame and Natalie’s attempt to offload responsibility onto her sister, which gets likened to blaming a Roomba.

3. Work Burnout, Editing Struggles, Taking Breaks

• [04:29-08:12]
  • Jason advocates for a genuine week off, not just pretending to take time away while still working.
  • Natalie lamenting relentless work on vlogs: “We are still working every single fucking day on them…If I locked in for three months on these vlogs, I could go on a vacation in August.” (05:39, Natalie)
  • David admits their work ethic has changed: “Our working hard isn’t what it used to be in our 20s. We’re not as nimble...We’re like old athletes.” (06:08, Jay)
  • Jason pushes back: “That’s a crutch. Shut the hell up, David Dobrik… You’re just as nimble. You just don’t want to.” (06:16, Jason)

4. Which Celebrity Would You Be? (Adam Sandler, George Clooney, Michael B. Jordan, Taylor Swift)

• [12:39-19:20]
  • Fun hypothetical debate: Would you trade lives with Adam Sandler, Michael B. Jordan, George Clooney, Billy Joel, or Taylor Swift?
  • Overwhelming preference for Adam Sandler: “He just feels like he just, like, genuinely just enjoys life.” (13:02, Natalie)
  • David ponders the perks of Clooney’s suave life, but recognizes he’s more of a Sandler archetype.
  • On Billy Joel: “Think about Piano Man…being able to fucking play that in a bar.” (18:06, Jay)
  • On Taylor Swift: The group jokes about the exhaustion of her tours versus Sandler’s “vacation” work schedule, and Natalie’s past tendency to browse sports team rosters looking for cute athletes: “That was literally a couple months ago.” (19:42, Jay)

5. Pop Culture Stories & Confessions

• [04:01 + 09:49-11:21, 11:41-12:20]
  • David confesses he hasn’t seen the latest Spider Man, discusses Tom Holland’s habit of spoiling Marvel secrets.
  • The Matt Damon vs. Jimmy Kimmel late-night feud gets recapped, including Damon’s triumphant Trojan Horse entrance and crowd ovation.

6. Nostalgia, Y2K & End-of-the-World Movies

• [20:42-25:42]
  • David, Jason, and Natalie reminisce about Y2K panic and the 2012 “world ending” movie.
  • David: “Y2K and 9/11 as a kid were very similar…in terms of chaos.” (22:18, Jay)
  • The group debates the impact of media hype, and Natalie admits she avoids apocalyptic and paranormal movies for their “realness.”
  • Natalie confides The Truman Show gave her lingering existential paranoia: “After I watched The Truman Show, I really took that to heart.” (25:50, Natalie)

7. Romantic Games & Dating in Your 30s

• [30:31-37:56]
  • Jason shares TikTok wisdom about how giving compliments reflects back on you.
  • David unpacks “nice guys finish last,” revealing that more aloof, less attentive men (and women) tend to attract more romantic interest: “90% of the time, it’s the guy that’s not paying attention to the girl [who gets her].” (33:54, Jay)
  • Both agree the “chase” in modern romance is overrated and emotionally exhausting.
  • Jason on his relationship: “I expected, like, games and stuff. And then [Naveen] was very straightforward. So straightforward.” (36:01, Jason)
  • David recounts a refreshing experience: “I admire a person that doesn’t care about that... She’d send me another text and it wasn’t like, ‘hey, why aren’t you responding?’ It was just like, another thought.” (36:37, Jay)

8. On Finding ‘The One’ and Fear of Settling

• [38:00-43:35]
  • David doubts the idea of “the one,” describing a “cancer” of always comparing people and fearing he’ll never be able to settle.
  • Jason reassures him, citing his own late start: “By the time you’re like 35, you’ll have accomplished so much that you’ll be ready to share this with somebody.” (39:42, Jason)
  • David shares advice from Jason’s mom: “Don’t settle...never settle.” (40:16, Jay)
  • They talk about chemistry, joking with a partner, and whether it’s possible to “find the girl that just wants to stay home,” with Natalie noting, “sometimes they’ll say they’re a homebody, but that’s very different.”

9. Deep Thoughts: Death, DMT, and Solitude

• [43:40-46:48]
  • David opens up about his changed perspective after a DMT experience: “If the afterlife is anything like that, if I’m alone forever…it’s really scary to think about.”
  • He reflects on once being optimistic about death (“I’ll just end it and restart…like a new player in a video game”) and how that’s shifted.
  • Jason suggests developing skills to be comfortable alone, reflecting on his own growth from younger years.

10. Plans, Travel, and Closing Remarks

• [46:49-end]
  • Jason and David discuss plans to travel to Kenya and London, joking about moving Jason’s son into school.
  • David: “That’s all the time we have for today’s podcast. Thank you guys for listening and make sure to tune in for the next one where I review Spider Man.” (47:10, Jay)

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Notable Quotes

• “I didn’t crash it—my gate closed on his Ferrari SUV… Scratched the fuck out of it.” (00:21, Natalie)
• "Mercury was in retrograde for me… I think I passed it on to her." (03:04, Jay)
• "Our working hard isn’t what it used to be in our 20s. We’re not as nimble…We’re like old athletes.” (06:08, Jay)
• "Nice guys finish last." (31:25, Jason)
• "Don’t settle...never settle." (40:16, Jay, quoting Jason’s mom)
• "If the afterlife is anything like that, if I’m alone forever…it’s really scary to think about." (44:09, Jay)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Ferrari Mishap & Bad Week: [00:50–03:12]
• Work Burnout and Taking Time Off: [04:29–08:12]
• Channel Discussion for Birthday Vlog: [07:47–08:49]
• Adam Sandler vs. Clooney, Celebrity Choices: [12:39–17:32]
• Pop Culture Round-Up (Tom Holland, Matt Damon/Kimmel): [09:49–12:23]
• Y2K, Apocalypse, The Truman Show: [20:42–25:55]
• Dating Games & Honest Communication: [30:31–37:56]
• Settling and Finding ‘The One’: [38:00–43:35]
• DMT, Death, and Being Alone: [43:40–46:48]

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Overall Tone & Impressions

This episode is fast-paced, authentic, full of self-deprecating jokes, and frequently pivots from shallow to deep. The honesty about burnout, personal struggles, and relationships makes it one of the more relatable VIEWS episodes. The cast maintains their breezy, witty tone while delving into real anxieties and life questions, with plenty of callbacks to internet culture and classic comedic hypotheticals.

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For Fans: If you’ve ever wondered how David and crew handle setbacks, burnout, and the absurdity of adulting—all while trying to keep the laughs coming—this episode is a perfect snapshot of their dynamic.

Transcript

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[Jay]

What's up, guys? Welcome back to Views. We are back with another episode. Natalie's having a bad week. She texted me yesterday morning. She said, something is happening to me. I need to go to bed and try again.

[Natalie]

That's how you want to start today's podcast? With my negative energy?

[Jay]

Well, no, I want to unpack it.

[Natalie]

Well, you're the source of it, so I guess we can start there.

[Jay]

Okay. Well, that's how I really. So how do you have attitude? You crashed my Ferrari yesterday.

[Natalie]

I didn't crash it.

[Jason]

What happened?

[Natalie]

My gate closed on his Ferrari suv.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Scratched the fuck out of it.

[Jason]

No.

[Jay]

Yeah. And it hit, like, a piece of the car. This may be in the vlog, so don't want to spoil it, but it hit a piece of the car that's like, unfortunately the biggest piece of the car. So, like, it's going to be like, a big replacement.

[Jason]

But damn, how did it happen? You're like, it's just started to close and you weren't out of the driveway yet.

[Natalie]

I was. I was, Yeah. I opened the gate. My sister opened the gate, and I was waiting for her to give me something in the car.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Natalie]

And it must have just been, like, the perfect amount of time. And as I started reversing out of the driveway, you can see on my security camera, like, the gate was also closing at the same time. So it wasn't in, like, the rear view camera yet, you know?

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

What was your reaction? Like, I mean, did you freeze? Did you do this sound?

[Natalie]

I was like, I gasped in the car. And then I get out of the car, my sister's coming back outside. And I was like, no. And she was like, what? And I was like, I fucking hit the Ferrari.

[Jay]

It's unfortunate that you took, like, the most expensive car that was Here.

[Natalie]

The most expensive car. Cause John, I was. I wanted to take the ass.

[Jay]

She blamed it on John. Right when she got back to the.

[Jason]

Yes, I did.

[Natalie]

Because I remember in the moment, I was like, I want to take the ass, and I don't want to.

[Jay]

And hold on. This started because her keys got locked into her car.

[Jason]

In her Ferrari.

[Jay]

In her Ferrari.

[Jason]

Hey, wait, is there any way Natalie's

[Jay]

bad dance keys got locked in her Ferrari, so she had to borrow her friends.

[Natalie]

It's not a bad. It's not. It's not that. It's like. It's just like there's weird things in the air. Air that I'm doing. I'm fucking up in really weird ways.

[Jay]

But I'm telling you, Mercury was in retrograde for me, and I had a pretty, like, rough three weeks.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I think I passed it on to her because the last two days, I've been feeling so good. So I think it must have, like, rubbed off and, like, fallen on Natalie.

[Natalie]

That's probably why you're annoying me, like, times 10.

[Jay]

Yeah. You're, like, really annoyed with me recently.

[Jason]

Is there any way you can blame this on your sister?

[Natalie]

Oh, I did.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

It's kind of hard to blame things on your sister.

[Jason]

Why?

[Jay]

Because it's like blaming something on, like, a Roomba. Do you know what I mean? It's like. That's like.

[Natalie]

I asked her.

[Jay]

Robot's not capable because I asked her

[Natalie]

to grab something from the. From, like, inside or whatever. The, like, gate clicker.

[Jay]

Oh, you are blaming it on your sister.

[Carl's Jr. Spokesperson]

Wow. That's incredible.

[Natalie]

And she took. So it was inside the door, and she took so long. She went inside the garage, walked around inside the entire house, and then came out the front door. And I was like, why don't you just grab it from the door and then walk it right back out?

[Jay]

Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, that's like a millennial thing or like a Gen Z thing where people are, like, a lot slower.

[Natalie]

And then she was like, I'm sorry. I'm just having so much brain fog this morning.

[Jason]

Well, here's what I'm sensing.

[Jay]

Oh, okay.

[Jason]

Here's what I'm sensing.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And then I think I'm right. Uhhuh.

[Jay]

Oh, also, by the way, guys, I haven't seen Spider man yet, so just to put that out there, it's like a big thing. I need to let people know immediately.

[Jason]

I thought you're supposed to go at

[Jay]

9:00am well, yeah, that's why today was supposed to be the. There was one person that DM'd me. And they were like, hey, make sure you don't do the pod today without seeing Spider Man. And Jackie, I'm sorry, I have not seen Spider man yet. I bought the tickets accidentally for the wrong day. It's tomorrow. Oh, so you'll get in the next pod. All right, continue, Jay.

[Jason]

I think you guys should take, like, a proper week off.

[Jay]

What?

[Natalie]

I told him that he, like, refuses.

[Jason]

And not like. And not, like, go somewhere and film. I mean, like, a proper week. No Natalie here, no David, just playing pickleball. You want to go do it?

[Jay]

So where do I go? Where do I go to take a week off?

[Jason]

Oh, my God.

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

You.

[Jason]

You go anywhere. You could hang. You could just stay here.

[Jay]

Oh, you'd love to be here, hang

[Jason]

out with John, play pickleball. Oh, fucking yeah.

[Jay]

I just want to make sure that that was still okay.

[Jason]

Go, go. Go over to. Go over to Ilya and like, just. Just be like a great friend. Just be like, hey, bud, you want to work out today? Or what do you want to do?

[Jay]

Okay. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to do the working out part, but, like, yeah, I'm definitely down to talk to Ilya.

[Jason]

Yeah, I think a nice.

[Jay]

We just can't. We're, like, in the middle.

[Natalie]

What? No, we absolutely can.

[Jay]

Hey, this is your idea to get the vlog going, and here we are.

[Natalie]

That's fine. We. When we first started doing this, like, series of vlogs, it was supposed to be for four months. We were going to go every week or three months. We were going to go every week.

[Jay]

Yeah, we were supposed to do weekly.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I know you're supposed to do weekly. That didn't. It wasn't realist for our editing team. Like, our team. We just can't go weekly.

[Jay]

It's not possible because we're idiots.

[Natalie]

But we have put. We have put in the same amount of time and effort.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

In the videos that we have been able to put out and produce same amount of time effort as weekly videos. You know, like, we are still working every single fucking day on them. And I was told that if I locked in for three months on these vlogs, I could go on a vacation in August.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Carl's Jr. Spokesperson]

I never used.

[Jason]

I was told that, too.

[Jay]

I never used those words. You made the original schedule and you were like, we're taking a break.

[Natalie]

And I made the arrangement. We all agreed on it.

[Jay]

Yeah, I know. I know you made the arrangement, but, like, it just didn't work out that way.

[Jason]

We weren't.

[Jay]

We weren't Good enough to make vlogs every week.

[Natalie]

Now, listen, we're still working hard.

[Jay]

Yeah, but our working hard isn't what it used to be in our 20s. We're not.

[Natalie]

It will never be that, ever.

[Jay]

We're not as nimble. We're like old athletes. Do you know what I mean?

[Jason]

That's a crutch. Shut the hell up, David Dobrik.

[Jay]

What do you mean, it's a crutch? What do you mean, a crutch? Obviously, it's definitely a crutch.

[Jason]

You're just as nimble. You just don't want to. That's it. I mean, like, you could wait.

[Jay]

You could operate.

[Jason]

You're way smarter now.

[Jay]

Oh, my God, I hate this argument. This is like when my mom's like, the same thing. When I'm like, my mom. I'm telling my mom I have a sore throat, and she's like, it's allergies. Whatever it is, if it's. If it's me saying it, it's true. Do you know what I mean? Whatever you just said, it's a crutch. It's exactly a crotch, and it is exactly my mental attitude towards it. But that is what has changed, and that is not changing. Does that make sense? What you just said is. Is what you just said is the truth. Yeah, but, like, that doesn't change anything. It's like a therapist telling me what's wrong, and I'm like, yeah, no shit. That's exactly the issue.

[Jason]

Right. But I mean, you are as nimble.

[Jay]

No, I'm not. Because I don't believe I am. Whether you think you are, whether you think you can or cannot, you are.

[Carl's Jr. Spokesperson]

Right?

[Natalie]

I mean, I.

[Jay]

And I think I cannot.

[Natalie]

I think you're just. Yeah, I think you just don't want to.

[Jay]

That's what it is. Yeah, I'm just. I'm completely different.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Yeah. So you.

[Jason]

You could. You can't. You could do it.

[Jay]

No, no, I have fun doing the videos once every two weeks. I just like, we can't do it every week. It's. Cause I'm still fucking sitting here editing.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

So crazy. Natalie left yesterday when we were editing. Natalie turned her location off and disappeared for an hour.

[Jason]

Where'd you go now? Did you go down to the male strip club?

[Natalie]

Yeah, I had to laugh.

[Jay]

She was gonna go rub one out.

[Jason]

Chippendales Laughing Nude boys.

[Natalie]

So I went to run an errand. I just didn't want to hear it because I know me leaving was.

[Jay]

Anyway, we're working on. We're working on the birthday vlog. Yeah, we're probably pushing it to the second channel from what it looks like. I know I say this every video but this one, this one may, may have to be moved. Unfortunately, the power going out during my birthday has like really crushed the vlog. And yeah, there's really nothing in the vlog even, like, even the ending of the vlog that's supposed to be super exciting was like not properly lit. It's just everything just kind of fell apart and we didn't do a good job of documenting how it fell apart. So. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. You think second channel, there's a good chance it's 50. 50?

[Natalie]

Yeah. I mean it feels kind of sad for it to go on the second channel, but like it's good for the

[Jay]

second channel mid for the main channel and I'd rather just like have it beyond the second channel and be like, oh, this is a fun one here.

[Jason]

Yeah, but to most people, they don't care. They're like, oh, cool, I'll watch it on that channel.

[Jay]

No, I know. It's just like when people are binging my videos, I just, I want the main channel videos still all be videos that I'm like proud of. Yeah, but, yeah, but don't you feel

[Natalie]

like sometimes you look back at like older videos that you might have thought were good at that point, but they're

[Jay]

not that good anymore, vice versa. I thought maybe videos were bad, but now I look back at them and they're good.

[Natalie]

Really?

[Jay]

Yeah. What do you mean? I don't think I've ever looked at a video and be like, oh, what the fuck?

[Natalie]

But there's like old. No, I don't think. What the fuck? I'm just saying like, obviously over time things change. So I just feel like that.

[Jay]

Yeah, but like an old cringy YouTube video I don't look at. I look at when I watch it. I look at it at the time and I'm like, oh, at the time. This is great. I don't look at it like, oh, this is so cringy now. I'm just like, yeah, this is 19 year old David. Of course it's gonna look like this.

[Natalie]

And you feel like putting out this birthday video. People will look at it and be like, oh, he.

[Jay]

No, no, I think Jason's right. I don't think, I don't think people. I think 80% of people would just be like stoked. But I don't know. I also lived the birthday and the power going out on my 30th was really sad. So I think that's having a heart that's. That's kind of fucking with me as I edit this video.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Jay]

Okay, we'll see. So Tom Holland spoiled Spider man again for me, which is really sad.

[Natalie]

Really?

[Carl's Jr. Spokesperson]

Yeah.

[Jason]

What did he say?

[Jay]

He. We were texting about. No, I'm kidding. That would be so cool. No, he was just, like, in an interview, and he slipped on something, but he was. He got interviewed. He's, like, notorious for spoiling things. And I always thought it was, like, a joke.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But I guess he actually does spoil things, because I just saw him spoil something, and I don't know if he spoiled it because I haven't seen the movie, but. We'll see. But someone asked him, what was the worst thing that you spoiled for Marvel? And he was. Kevin Feige, who's, like, the main guy at Marvel, put all the Avengers on a bus.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And they were, like, driving around Hollywood during Infinity War. So, you know, at the end of Infinity War, like, half of the Avengers die. Right. And they're driving around Hollywood and they're going into movies that are showing for the first time. Like, it's opening day, and they're driving around and they're surprising people at the theater. And Tom and the Avengers walk into the theater, and one of the first things Tom says is, guys, look, everything's okay. I'm not dead. And he didn't know that no one's watched the movie yet. He thought it was the end of the movie, which is crazy. It's a crazy spoiler.

[Natalie]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Jay]

Yeah. So I didn't know he actually spoils things. It's just really funny.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

It's a very Spider man like quality.

[Jason]

Do you think you'd be able to, if you were in that position, to not spoil things? Not spoil things?

[Jay]

I don't know. I can't imagine doing all the interviews that he does.

[Jason]

I could see being, like, that type of person, just being. He seems like the type of person that's very excited about his job and stuff. So I could see him just in excitement, just being like.

[Jay]

Or I just think it's cool that, like. I don't know. I just think it's cool.

[Jason]

What did he spoil this time?

[Jay]

Well, I don't want to say because then I'll be double spoiling it, but. Yeah. And then did you see Matt Damon finally made it on Kimmel?

[Jason]

No.

[Jay]

So there's, like, an ongoing joke.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

That, like, Jimmy Kimmel never has time for Matt Damon. I don't know how it started.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Like at the end of every show. At the end of every show, Right. Kimmel signs off by saying sorry to Matt Damon.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

We didn't have time for you.

[Natalie]

Oh, really?

[Jay]

And. And that's. And this time, it was like a week or two ago. I just saw it. Matt Damon snuck in inside a Trojan horse.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay]

Which is really good. Like, it was like a gift for Kimmel. And then Matt Damon was finally on the show. Pretty exciting.

[Jason]

And did they. Did they, like, jaw at each other or did they just kind of.

[Jay]

It was like a standing ovation from the crowd. And then that was kind of it. And Matthew was like, I made it in. But it was like the end to an ongoing bit.

[Jason]

It was a really good idea.

[Jay]

Yeah. Really good. That was the time to end the bit.

[Jason]

They had a good idea the other day. They did. They were giving people $12 water from Erewhon, but it just came out of the hose from their backlot.

[Jay]

Oh, and tricking people. I love those ideas. Yeah. Where Kimmel makes people look dumb on the street.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

Here's a question for you, Jay and Natalie. Would you rather be Michael B. Jordan or Adam Sandler?

[Natalie]

Oh, Adam Sandler for sure.

[Jay]

Really?

[Natalie]

Yeah, 100%.

[Jay]

Okay, let me give you another one because I think Michael B. Jordan is on his come up. I think he's going to be a legend. Would you rather be. Would you rather be George Clooney or Adam Sandler?

[Natalie]

Adam Sandler.

[Jay]

Really?

[Natalie]

Yeah. Because he just feels like he just, like, genuinely just enjoys life.

[Jay]

I think Jason would be the opposite.

[Jason]

Right?

[Jay]

No, really.

[Jason]

Adam Sandler.

[Natalie]

Adam Sandler is a tough one. I don't know many other people I'd rather be than Adam Sandler.

[Jay]

Really?

[Jason]

He's also, like, actually so cool and funny too.

[Jay]

Yeah, but isn't that, like, what's cool about being George Clooney? It's like being funny when you're an athlete. Like, you just have to be a little bit funny and then all of a sudden everybody loves you. Like, I think that's George Clooney is, like, tuned. Like, if you met George Clooney and he said like a half assed joke, you'd be like, this is one of the greatest guys on planet Earth. Because not only is he so cool, but he's like, kind of funny.

[Jason]

Yeah. Right. But. But I think Adam.

[Jay]

Adam Sandler is more to lose in person.

[Jason]

That's true. More pressure.

[Natalie]

More pressure.

[Jay]

Yeah, more pressure.

[Jason]

I. I don't know. Maybe George Clooney has more to lose because Adam Sandler really purports himself as, like, a regular guy. George Clooney, you know, whether he likes it or not, was made this movie star.

[Jay]

Yeah, but George Clooney can almost even just be, like, standoffish, and you're like, that's George Clooney. Do you know what he's gone through? He's, like, the biggest star of all time. I'm not disagreeing with you that I would probably also choose Adam Sandler.

[Jason]

Adam Sandler gets to come up with a movie concept that's really silly and it'll get made.

[Jay]

Yeah, I was the best.

[Jason]

Whereas George Clooney's got to, like. It's got to be something that's, like, in the Zeitgeist or have some incredible story.

[Jay]

But is that not so exciting? Because I was watching this new Michael B. Jordan movie, which I'm surprised I've never seen the original the Thomas Crown Affair.

[Jason]

Oh, there. He's redoing that.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Oh, nice.

[Jay]

I've never heard of this movie. Okay, now, have you heard of this movie?

[Jason]

Pierce Brosnan did it.

[Jay]

Pierce Brosnan. It's a fucking, like. It's, like, so up my alley of things I'd want to watch. It's crazy that no one's recommended it to me. It's about a. It's a 1999American romantic heist film where it follows Thomas Crown, a bored billionaire who steals a painting from the Met and is pursued by an insurance investigator, with the two falling in love. How fucking cool is that?

[Jason]

I love a heist movie.

[Jay]

A heist movie where the guy's a billionaire already and he's bored.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I mean, this is incredible.

[Jason]

That's. You bored billionaire.

[Jay]

I mean, that's so fucking cool.

[Jason]

So, yeah, sorry, go.

[Jay]

No, go.

[Jason]

No, it's a different topic.

[Jay]

Oh, Michael B. Jordan is redoing that, which is really exciting. So that got me thinking about it. But then someone. So there's a new Kevin Hart movie, 70, 72 hours. And one of the comments was, like, Kevin Hart is doing the Adam Sandler method, where he goes to the studio and he has them send him to a place where he'd want a vacation to do work. And then that had me think, like, that's like. Because, like, Adam Sandler isn't. It is, like, famous for shooting in Hawaii and always having a hot wife in a movie. Like, that's, like. He just makes his job incredible. I think Adam Sandler is the closest to, like, what an influencer is in Regards to, like, using a brand deal.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay]

To fuel something fun.

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

Which is really fun. But I think gunned in my head I'd have to do George Clooney.

[Jason]

Really?

[Jay]

Yeah, I think it'd just be sick. I think it'd be so cool.

[Jason]

You'd have to go to all kinds of, like, events and benefits. He does a lot of work for, like, underprivileged people and causes, and he's very political. You'd be at a lot of dinners in a tuxedo.

[Natalie]

You know what's so funny about that?

[Jason]

While Adam Sandler's playing basketball.

[Natalie]

It's funny because your trajectory and your career is more in line with Adam Sandler. But you're choosing the George Clooney, which.

[Jay]

No, I'm not.

[Jason]

That is interesting.

[Natalie]

What?

[Jay]

Oh, like, I'm choosing the option of George Clooney. Yeah.

[Natalie]

Like, it's like we're subconscious thing where you're like, you want to be this like.

[Jay]

Well, no, I think that's why I would want to try it. It's like something I've never done. Like, obviously I'd want to be like.

[Natalie]

It's like you're trying to be something you're not.

[Jay]

Well, yeah. Wait, that's the whole point.

[Jason]

No, yeah.

[Natalie]

Or you could, but that just said

[Jay]

I'm close to Adam Sandler, so, like, wouldn't I want to be like the cool action star that's like super hot.

[Natalie]

Yeah, but it's just interesting that you

[Jay]

would chase and hot and they're like 60s or whatever.

[Natalie]

You would choose to like. There's no, like, you would choose to try something entirely different instead of like, I don't know, you could be Adam.

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

Sandy.

[Jay]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to try to be George Clooney. That's not what the thing is. It's. I will become George Clooney is the question. I would. I would never want to try to. Obviously, I would love to try to be Adam Sandler. It's like a more doable route for me. But, like. Yeah, no, if I could just snap my fingers, I think I would go,

[Jason]

you could be Adam Sandler.

[Jay]

All right, new question.

[Jason]

Would you want to answer me on that one?

[Jay]

What would you rather be Adam Sandler. Yeah, because that's the one you chose. Or Gwyneth Paltrow. Bon Jovi.

[Jason]

Adam Sandler. What?

[Natalie]

I might want to be Bon Jovi just because I love singing. Like, I've always wanted to be a

[Jay]

pop star or like Billy Joel.

[Jason]

Whoa, hang on, brother.

[Jay]

Like, how.

[Jason]

Wait a second. I've got to stop the podcast.

[Jay]

I think Billy Joel.

[Jason]

I gotta go take a walk and think Billy Joel.

[Jay]

Yeah, I think Billy Joel. Right.

[Natalie]

I don't really know enough about Billy Joel.

[Jay]

It doesn't matter. It's just. Think about Piano Man. Like, just think about being able to fucking play that in a bar. I don't know.

[Jason]

I think the story of Billy Joel,

[Natalie]

Adam Sandler, or what's cool about being a singer. Okay.

[Jay]

Is. No, no, I'm gonna hear you out. Is you can. You can, like, exercise your superpower in, like, a surefire way.

[Jason]

Mm.

[Jay]

Like, Adam Sandler, he could be funny, but it's still subjective. Right. But like, Billy Joel singing at a piano. Yeah. It's not that subjective. Like, everyone will love it.

[Jason]

Right, Right. Comedy is subjective.

[Jay]

Yeah. Like, is he feeling it that day? Billy Joel could be depressed and could still play the keys and fucking destroy.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Like a bar. George Clooney can't do that. George Clooney can't. He could just walk in and kind of Aura farm.

[Natalie]

That's true.

[Jay]

All right, what were you saying?

[Natalie]

I was gonna say Adam Sandler or Taylor Swift.

[Jason]

Ooh.

[Jay]

I mean, Adam Sandler.

[Natalie]

Really?

[Jay]

Well, I just, like, I'm just a guy, so it's hard for me to, like, switch gender.

[Jason]

I think Taylor Swift's life looks exhausting.

[Natalie]

Really?

[Jason]

Yeah. Like, the three hour we went to her concert, it was like, three and a half hours every night for two, three years.

[Jay]

Yeah, but she's, like, having such a good time.

[Natalie]

Yeah, but she loves it.

[Jason]

I'm sure she loves it. I'm just saying, like.

[Natalie]

And she made, like, a billion dollars, and now she can just, like, chill and be married.

[Jason]

I mean, you gotta be thinking she will, I guess.

[Jay]

I mean, Taylor Swift is, like, marrying a football player is, like, what you would die for. So that is probably closer to you.

[Natalie]

Okay, first of all, it's not. But I'm just. I was trying to think of, like, the biggest.

[Jay]

Natalie. You literally look through NHL and NFL rosters to see who you could date.

[Natalie]

That was, like, five years ago.

[Jay]

That was literally a couple months ago.

[Commercial Announcer]

What did she do?

[Jay]

She'll just, like, look, she'll be like,

[Natalie]

if I'm at a game, I'll look at the roster.

[Jay]

The LA Kings will, like, draft new players, and she'll be like, okay, let's see this year who I can fucking.

[Natalie]

Not true. For the record.

[Jay]

So good, so good, so good.

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[Jay]

Jay, were you around for Y2K? I mean, you were around?

[Jason]

No, I was born in 2005.

[Jay]

Do you know about Y2K? Nat, did we ever talk about this? Because it felt like a way bigger deal for me. When I was a kid, when I was hearing about Y2K, I thought it was a disease. Do you know what Y2K is?

[Natalie]

Year 2000? Yeah.

[Jay]

But do you not know the problem of Y2K? It was like, almost apocalyptic, right?

[Natalie]

Well, they thought, oh, 1999.

[Jason]

Yeah. They thought when it would become January 1, 2000, all. Everything would just, like, black out. Like, everyone's records of banks and. Yeah, yeah, because once that changed.

[Jay]

But was it as dramatic as I was taught it?

[Jason]

You know, it actually was really dramatic. The media made it really dramatic.

[Jay]

So basically the problem was everyone thought all the computers were programmed to read the year from. In two digits. So from 0 to 99. 1999 was 99. So they were worried that when it hit 2000, the computers wouldn't have programming to carry it over to the next century. So everything would just implode on itself. Like. Like you said, banking. And just anything that had to do with computers would just completely crumble and all data would be lost and they had to change some code. And then there weren't any serious problems, just some minor problems. But, like, the way I was taught was that it was like, I. And this is gonna sound dumb, but to me, Y2K and 911 as a kid were very similar.

[Jason]

Right.

[Jay]

In terms of chaos, really. You know, we had. We had like, a full day to spend learning about Y2K. I couldn't understand it at the time, so that's why.

[Jason]

Oh, you four.

[Jay]

I was. When we were learning about it. Yeah, no, I'm sure I was like, in Middle School. Y2K.

[Jason]

26. You're 30.

[Jay]

Yeah, no, no, it was like in 2010 or something.

[Jason]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, preschool. They're, like, scaring you.

[Jay]

No, but I'm saying the afterwards, the way we talked about what was it like?

[Jason]

What was it like? It was like, oh, this thing's coming. And it's like, I don't know if. And then nothing happened.

[Jay]

Oh, okay.

[Jason]

It wasn't. It wasn't like something that I was, like, really worried about. I was just like, oh, they say it's gonna. I guess in the back of my mind, I was like, oh, it'll work out. They'll figure it. They'll figure it out. There's too much money on the line. There's too much.

[Jay]

But was it a talking point for everybody at every table, everywhere leading up to the day?

[Commercial Announcer]

No.

[Jason]

Oh, not at all.

[Jay]

Okay, so maybe I just have, like, a really warped.

[Jason]

But. But in your defense, it was like all the media talked about for, like, six months.

[Jay]

Okay, okay.

[Jason]

That makes sense.

[Natalie]

Do you remember, like, in 2012 when, like, the Mayan calendar was coming to an end and everybody thought the world was gonna end?

[Jay]

One of the best movies ever. Which movie 2012 is that?

[Natalie]

I haven't seen that. Is that what it's about?

[Jay]

You haven't seen 2012?

[Jason]

I don't even know what it is.

[Jay]

What? That is the best Earth ending movie of all time.

[Jason]

Who's in it?

[Natalie]

Not a big.

[Jay]

He's a guy who's in every fucking movie at the time. I don't know his name.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Jay]

He's like your everyday guy. He's so good. He's up there with Matt Damon in terms of just like Brendan Fraser. Very close. Very similar vibe to that.

[Natalie]

Let's see, John Cusack.

[Jason]

Oh, John Cusack.

[Jay]

I'm an idiot. How do I not know John Cusack? Yeah, okay. Yeah, John Cusack.

[Jason]

Well, John Cusack kind of disappeared, but at the time. At the time, he was in everything.

[Jay]

You got to watch 2012.

[Jason]

Huh? Really?

[Jay]

Wait, what do you mean, huh?

[Natalie]

Okay, well, I'm not like a big Earth ending person. Like, I don't really like that because I don't, you know.

[Jay]

You haven't seen 2012?

[Natalie]

I don't think so. No. Intentionally.

[Jay]

That's not possible.

[Jason]

I kind of vibe with that now. There's certain things that I just won't even watch because I'm like, I don't want to see that. Yeah, it's, like, depressing.

[Natalie]

I don't watch paranormal shit because it's real. I don't watch the Earth ending apocalypse stuff because it's definitely going to happen at some point.

[Jason]

There was a TV movie called the Day after when I was a kid, and it was like, what would happen if there's a nuclear holocaust? So it's like after that and it Fucking freaked me out my entire life, and I never, ever liked watching that again.

[Natalie]

That's when I watched the Truman Show. I think the Truman show is what did this for me, for every movie after. And I've had this internal paranoia about my life not being real ever since I watched the Truman Show.

[Jason]

Really? Wait, what? Does that have something to do with, like, how you're on social media?

[Jay]

Shouldn't have packed that.

[Natalie]

No, no.

[Jason]

Are you sure you're talking about the right movie? The Truman show with Jim Carrey?

[Natalie]

Yeah, like, the comedy.

[Jay]

She's like, it was Teletubbies.

[Natalie]

It wasn't. It's not a comedy. It's. It's like everyone's controlling his life and he's not aware, right? Like, it's like he's. He's the only one that's not in on it. Like, in something everybody else is kind of in. Like, oh, this isn't like a daily occurrence for me, but sometimes I'll be like, oh, like, none of you guys are real. You're all, like, with me or something, you know?

[Jason]

Oh, is that what you think?

[Jay]

That's a pretty common way to think for sure. That totally makes sense.

[Natalie]

But after I watched the Truman Show, I really took that to heart.

[Jay]

Wait, we're not real? You're the only person that exists in the world. Or we're not real. Or we are real, but we're fucking with you. The Truman show is a guy who's in a TV show, and everyone's an actor around him, but they're still real people. Do you think we're real people or do you think we're. Your mind is. We're just.

[Natalie]

I mean, like, in this current moment, I'm convinced that you're real people.

[Jason]

Wow.

[Jay]

We did a good job.

[Natalie]

But.

[Jason]

But when I smoke weed in my house by myself at night, I rethink everything.

[Natalie]

No, I don't know. I just, like. I can't explain it because I don't have that feeling right now, but there would be. There'd be moments in my life where I would be like, oh, that person, whether it's you or it's Jason or Taylor or whoever, like, that person that there's. They are a part of some sort of organization that's, like, watching me and, like, trying to manipulate or, like, infiltrate me.

[Jason]

Oh, my God. You sound like David right now.

[Jay]

Okay, I've never said that, but you

[Jason]

say stuff like that.

[Jay]

Part of an organization. That's fucking weird. That's almost weirder than just thinking you're the only person and the rest of us are codes. Like, what would this organization want to do with you?

[Jason]

You've literally said that.

[Jay]

I'm asking a lot of questions because she's on to us. What would we. I mean, this organization. What do you mean? I've said this to you.

[Jason]

You've said the same thing to me.

[Jay]

No, I've said, and I've said this on the pod, that, like, it's not crazy. Like, I don't know your perspective. Like, I don't know if you're a real human.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I don't know if Natalie's real. I don't know if anybody's real, but I don't think that you guys are actors, but, like, playing like, or like, super secret spies in an organization. I don't think that. Natalie, I've known you since we were, like, kids.

[Natalie]

I know, bro. You infiltrated early.

[Jay]

Do you think?

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

And now you got me here.

[Jay]

You think I stuck it out with you next to that townhouse? Someone's paying money. There's no fucking way. I would never. I would rather infiltrate like Courtney Lawless or like Haley Hemmel, someone who lived in a big house in Greg's Landing. Why the fuck was I stuck in a two bedroom with a family of eight?

[Jason]

So by your reasoning, yesterday, when you crashed that Ferrari, there was a guy in a control room that's like, okay, send the garage door now. Send it now.

[Natalie]

No, no, it's obviously not that deep.

[Jay]

Do you think everything happens for a reason? Do you think everything's, like, written?

[Natalie]

I don't think everything's written, but I don't believe in coincidences.

[Jason]

Staring at the blank page before you're glitching. Sometimes you hear that song and you're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, I know. I feel that. Right. Have you ever put that song on?

[Jay]

Have I put that song on? Of course I put that song on. Yeah, it does really kind of put you in a good mood.

[Jason]

Yeah, it's a nice run.

[Jay]

Yo. Rosie o' Donnell was talking about moving to Ireland. I know this is random, but it's like. It's like she was talking about. She's talking about. She's not a fan of Trump, so she moved to Ireland when he came to office. Yeah. And she was talking about how great the Irish people are. And she's like, nobody will bother me in Ireland, but, like, I'll be walking down the street and someone will go, rosie, welcome to Ireland. You belong here. And I was just like, wow, that's really cool. Is that not like a really cool thing to hear if you move to a new country.

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Well, like someone, a random person welcoming you by your name, saying you belong here, and then going. I was like that.

[Natalie]

Like, that doesn't even sound real.

[Jay]

That was like one of the warmest two sentence stories I've ever heard in my life.

[Jason]

I was like, yeah, that is nice.

[Jay]

Damn, that feels really good. Like that would make me be like, I'm fucking. The rest of my family is gonna be born in Ireland.

[Jason]

I'm sure if you moved back to Slovakia, that'd be like that for you.

[Jay]

Yeah, but I don't.

[Jason]

But no, I don't want to fucking go to Slovakia. I like it here in Beverly Hills.

[Natalie]

Hear that?

[Jay]

That's now crispy and McCrispy strips meeting creamy Caesar sauce. Sounds extra crispy caesar sauce at McDonald's

[Jason]

for a limited time. Bottom up. Okay. So there's a tick tock that I saw, of course. And when you say to me like, Jay, like, if you say, say Jay, you're lazy. If you were to say that to

[Jay]

me, people, I'd never say that to you.

[Jason]

Thank you. People see that. Like if you say jay, you're dumb, you're an idiot. You're an idiot. Right. When you say that people a little bit, that of that transfers onto you. That's how people see you.

[Jay]

So people. Okay.

[Jason]

Or. But if you were to say, jay, you're so generous, people will see you as generous. Isn't that interesting?

[Jay]

So paying a compliment almost pays yourself a compliment.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Jay]

It goes further away than putting someone down. Yeah, that's really interesting.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

How do you feel? Same situation. But let's say you're with a group of guys.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

You're 20 years old.

[Jason]

Oh, sick.

[Jay]

Yeah. And you're with your guy friends and there's like a girl you're trying to impress.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Jay]

What is the best way to act around that girl? Your friends being a douchebag.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

You're being the nice guy.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

What?

[Jay]

Norm, this is. I don't know how to put this into perspective, but I've been in situations and I know this is like really weird. Really weird to say, but like a lot of times the person that's being the douchebag wins.

[Jason]

Sure.

[Jay]

Right. Do you agree with me?

[Jason]

Oh, yeah. Nice guys finish last.

[Jay]

Why is that? Wait, what were you gonna say before? I.

[Jason]

Well, I. I thought about this a lot and I'm kind of like watching my son go through it now.

[Jay]

Okay, well, your son's nice.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Oh, so that fucks him.

[Jason]

No, no, He's. He. He is, like, so nice to everybody, and he. He has the ability to sort of just like, rise above the douchebags, which I think is a really good quality. But I just think in general, like, young men get that advice, like, you got to be a dick.

[Jay]

Oh, I don't think. I don't. I don't think that's what I'm getting at.

[Jason]

No, I'm not saying you think that, but that is, like. That is the general thing that, like, young men are taught.

[Carl's Jr. Spokesperson]

Really?

[Jason]

For sure. Yeah. Like, you have to find.

[Jay]

I don't think the words are dick. I think it's, like, maybe, like, assertive or like.

[Jason]

Well, I mean, the whole. The whole negating culture do, you know? I mean, that's like, a whole thing.

[Jay]

What's that?

[Jason]

That's like, you know, the way you just kind of negate a woman to make her more interested.

[Jay]

Like, turn her down.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason]

That's definitely a thing.

[Jay]

I don't think. I don't think that's a really.

[Jason]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that does work. I'm trying to think, like, we kind of. I got off track a little bit. What are you asking? You're asking, should I be. Would I be. If I was 20, would I be nicer?

[Jay]

Well, there's just been situations where I've watched two of my friends pursue a girl.

[Jason]

Oh, this is good.

[Jay]

And. And one is going at it. Like, one guy's being a total dick. Yeah. But, like, funny dick. Not like. Yeah, not like, go fuck yourself, but, like, just being a little bit, like, talking to other girls at the bar, like, not caring about this girl and the other girl is, like, honeymooning her.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Like, almost to where I'm like, this is too much.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Jay]

Right. But like, still, like, pursuing her.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Like, and showering her. Not with.

[Jason]

Do you want a drink?

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Can I get you a drink?

[Jay]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason]

So that's a great outfit that you

[Jay]

have on, but, like, getting drinks and, like. Yeah, like, wait, so tell me about this. You know, and the other guys being more, like, could not care less about this girl, and these guys are on the same exact, like, playing field.

[Jason]

Pair of sevens.

[Jay]

Yeah, they're both. They're both sevens. But I have seen this happen where 90. And this actually seems like I'm talking like, I'm one of the guys, but I swear to God I'm not. This. I have seen this where 90% of the time, it's the guy that's not paying attention to the girl that gets the girl.

[Jason]

Yes. That's true, right? Yeah.

[Jay]

I think. And I don't think this work. I think this works also maybe backwards, too. I think it's just like a human. Like, if a girl was doing the same thing to a guy, is it just like a human thing? Like, you want what you can't have, or, like. Yeah, I think that's what it is. Right?

[Jason]

Yeah, it's just like a challenge. It's just like, also, it's like, if this person's, like, so up my ass, they can't be that great.

[Jay]

Do you like a chase?

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

No.

[Jay]

Me, too.

[Jason]

I don't like it at all.

[Jay]

Like, if a girl plays with me, like. Like, we're out and. And it's evident to me that she's, like, not even evident, but, like, I feel like there's a chase. I'm just like, you know.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

I'm just like, oh, this is just a loss. Like, it's not that. Like, I want to. Like, I'm not saying that. Like, I want to sleep with her.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Like, I'm just like. I don't have time for these, like, emotional war games. We're about to play for games. Yeah.

[Jason]

Nivea and I talk about that all the time.

[Jay]

Wait, what do you explain it? Because it feels like I'm saying it like. Like, I'm just trying to, like, get in bed with a girl. But that's not what I mean.

[Jason]

No, it's exhausting. Somebody wants to play games.

[Jay]

Yes.

[Jason]

That.

[Jay]

Oh, like somebody. I also mean, like, when somebody texts.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And they make it, like a. Like, harder to make plans or like. Or, like.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

There's, like, just something, like, it's not just, like, straightforward. Like, I love a person that's straightforward and, like, somebody that, like, seems like. I don't know. I just feel like I'm.

[Jason]

Do you want to go see Spider Man? I'm not into Spider Man.

[Jay]

Okay. Goodbye.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or. Or she could say, like, oh, yeah. I actually really wanted to see the invite. Okay. Let's go see the invite.

[Jay]

Right?

[Jason]

Someone that'll work with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

But, like, yes. Okay.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Jay]

100.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I don't know how to put in it. What do you and Naveen talk about?

[Jason]

We always talk about that. It's just, like, games are so dumb. Like, when I met her, I. I had. I had an idea of what she would be like.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Because of, like, maybe what she looked like or she just looked like this pretty girl on Instagram, you know, Like, I'm sure, like, A million guys want to date her. So I, like, I had, like, a preconceived notion, like, I thought, you know, of what she would be like.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And I expected, like, games and stuff. And then she was very straightforward. So straightforward.

[Jay]

I love that.

[Jason]

Yeah. So straightforward. So like, hey, what are you doing tomorrow?

[Jay]

Dude, this reminds me of this girl I talked to like a year ago. And it's exactly how I thought about her. I'm like, oh, she's definitely going to be, like, mysterious and elusive and, like. Yeah, yeah. But, like, she was the complete. I had a conversation with her. I'm like, I'm really bad with my phone. Like, I'm just not gonna respond. She's like, oh, I don't mind. Like, I'll double, triple text you. And like, if you ever find annoying, just tell me to, like, buzz off.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, that's a good quality.

[Jay]

I was like, oh, okay. And like that. If I never responded, not because I was, like, playing a game. I just, like, literally didn't get a chance to get to it.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

She'd send me another text and it wasn't like, hey, why aren't you responding? It was just, like, another thought that she had.

[Jason]

Right.

[Jay]

She wasn't, like, waiting.

[Jason]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a keeper.

[Jay]

Yeah. She wasn't, like, waiting to, like, share. I don't know. She wasn't waiting to send me another. She wasn't waiting for a response just so she can get the next thing going. She was just like, oh, I'm thinking about this right now. Here's this.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Or like, and I really admire that. Like, I admire a person that, like, doesn't care about that kind of stuff. I don't know if that made sense.

[Jason]

That makes.

[Jay]

If what I said made sense.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

What's.

[Jason]

What happened with the two guys at the. At the bar? Did the douchey guy get her?

[Jay]

Yeah. I mean, I don't even think it was, like, a specific thing. I don't even know if I'm referencing. I don't know what I'm referencing exactly, but, like. Yeah, every time. Yeah, every time.

[Jason]

And now that. And now that you're older, like, but

[Jay]

it's not worth being the douchey guy because I think you get the girl in that moment because I think it's just the chase.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But then you're still the douchey guy, so, like, it doesn't really. Well, I also love the saying, every. Every guy wants a. Every guy wants a good girl. To be bad just for him. And every girl wants a bad boy to be good just for them or whatever. I really like that saying. I think it's really funny. I'm like, wow, that's really strange how that works.

[Jason]

Will you go on any dates in Kenya?

[Carl's Jr. Spokesperson]

I don't know.

[Jason]

Maybe. Yeah.

[Jay]

I'm not.

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

I don't know.

[Jay]

I always find myself, like. Like, liking people in different countries.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But, like, it's just, like, such a waste of energy. I gotta stop doing that because it's just like, what am I gonna do with dating a person from Kenya?

[Jason]

Yeah. Like that girl you saw in Croatia.

[Jay]

Yes, exactly. Yeah. There was a girl I saw in Croatia when we were getting. We were waiting for our boat to leave, and I saw her right at the fucking. What is it? The cafe. Yeah, but, like, what a waste of time. I guess it was fun. I guess it was fun in the moment because I, like, got to, like. I got her number and I got that, like, my endorphins were running and I was like, fuck, yeah, I got a girl's number.

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But, like, at the end of the day, like, nothing came.

[Jason]

But you don't know that. Yeah, it could have been. It could have been, like, you know, it could be the one. You have to. I mean, you have to do that. You have to, like, kind of turn over every stone. I believe that. Right. Like, isn't it. Isn't it just, like, one big, like, math equation?

[Jay]

Like, not to be, like, cynical, but I just, like, truly don't think there is a thing that's going, like a person that's gonna come my way. I'm gonna go, this is the one. I just really. I. I'm really at the point. And it's not. Because, like, it's just the way I think now, which is like, I have, like, this, like, cancer in me that's, like, always comparing people.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I just, like, don't think, like, I'm capable of, like, doing that anymore. And it's all my fault. It's all my fault that I will never be able to sink my teeth into one person and, like, be like, yeah, maybe I should pursue this. I can't do it.

[Jason]

The truth is, is that you're still really young. I mean, you're 30. That's like, I didn't get 30s.

[Jay]

Are the new 20s. Maybe you're right.

[Jason]

Yeah. Like, by the time you're, like, 35, you'll be like. You'll have accomplished so much that you'll be like, oh, okay, I'm Like, I'm ready to, like, share this with somebody. You just don't feel that way. I didn't feel that way when I was 30. I didn't want to get married when I was 32.

[Jay]

Your mom gave me this piece of advice.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

That, like, always rings in my head. And I think it's, like, not fucked me up, but I think, no, it's actually. It's leading me in the right direction. I know it. Even though it's, like, kind of, like, frustrating. But she's always like, don't. She said, don't settle. She said, whatever you do, never settle.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And, like, I always think about that. And that's when I. When I meet someone, I'm like, I think this would be settling. And I'm like, is this, like, is this the one that I would, like, chase till the ends of the earth? And if it's not, then I think about your mom and I'm like, I feel like I'm settling.

[Jason]

It's really easy to know. You'll know because the person that you'll end up with, she'll be like, he or she. She'll be. She'll be like, I'm straight, by the way. No, I know, but.

[Jay]

But just in case.

[Jason]

But we just don't know. Yeah. We don't know. She'll be that person that you can, like, joke. Joke back and forth with. That. That's it. That's just the person. It doesn't matter what, like, who she is or what she looks like. It'll be the person that you're, like this constant kind of. That just lights you up.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Jason]

Like, the way. The way. The way, like, Naveen and I are. We're always, like, doing jokes and stuff. Like, I think if. If I didn't have that with her.

[Jay]

I've met people like that, though.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

That are, like, really good and jokey.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And in my head, I'm like, I would have loved you, like, in my twenties.

[Jason]

Oh.

[Jay]

Like. Cause I. This is so fun.

[Jason]

But you're all jokes. What are you talking about? All you do is joke around all day.

[Jay]

I think I have, like, a think. I, like. I love joking with my friends.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I like sitting on the couch with my, like, hometown friends.

[Jason]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Jay]

But, like, I.

[Jason]

Don't you want something really solemn with your wife?

[Jay]

I don't. I don't know. I don't know. Baby, how are you today? I don't know if I have the energy to joke around with a new person. That's all. What Yeah. I don't know. Does that sound crazy? Like, I love. I love my jokes with my friends. I just don't have, like, I'll meet somebody really goofy and fun. I'll be like, you have the best energy. Like, I just don't have it for. I don't, don't. I can't.

[Jason]

Because it's a new person.

[Jay]

I cannot match that right now.

[Guest/Additional Speaker]

What?

[Jay]

I don't know. I just, like, don't. I don't have the. But I also don't think I met the right person.

[Jason]

Right, Right.

[Jay]

To, like, give the energy to have, like, I don't know, of matching them with the flirting and with the. Let's go on an adventure. Let's go on a car ride, let's go to Malibu. Let's sit by the ocean. Let's go have a picnic. Let's go have a dinner date. Like.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I just, I don't know if I've met the person to give that energy.

[Jason]

But what if you meet the girl that's like, let's stay home. Let's watch Iron man again. Let's watch Pirates with Alex. Wow. You think she's out there, Jay? Actually, that is a crazy, crazy person to find.

[Jay]

Yeah, that is a really crazy.

[Jason]

You'd be more lucky to, like, you'd be more likely to marry like a top notch comedian because that's.

[Jay]

Because my problem is, I've said this on the podcast from time and time, but, like, that's not something that a girl says.

[Jason]

Yeah, right.

[Jay]

That she's. Nope. I never meet anyone and the first thing or like the first day I meet them, they say, yeah, I love staying at home and doing nothing. Like, no one says that. And like, sometimes they'll say they're a homebody, but that's very different.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Then like, yeah, I don't know.

[Jason]

Yeah. Yeah, you could find it. Maybe you'll find it.

[Jay]

Well, yeah. I don't know. Again, no rush.

[Jason]

No rush.

[Jay]

I'm just talking about it because we have a podcast.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I mean, otherwise, if we didn't have a podcast, I wouldn't even bring this up. Because this genuinely doesn't.

[Jason]

No, I know.

[Jay]

I'm only expressing these thoughts because we have to talk.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Jay]

Other than that, I would be like, yeah, this is what it is. And it is what it is. Goodbye.

[Jason]

You're also 30.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Like, so much time. So much time.

[Jay]

Well, thank you. I've been thinking about dying and.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay]

And ever since. I've told you this before too, ever since that dmt, it's like really freaking me out.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay]

And I used to not be scared of death at all. We used to talk about it on

[Jason]

the pod all the time. What happened with the DMT that because you saw the other side?

[Jay]

I didn't see the other side, but I was like, you did see something. It was just dark and I couldn't communicate with you guys and I was seeing things. It was just me. And it was like the, like really scary because I was just like, alone.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I was like, oh, my God. If the afterlife is anything like that, if I'm alone forever. It was, it got really.

[Commercial Announcer]

It was.

[Jay]

It's really scary to think about. I've never thought about death like that. I was very optimistic about death and like, worst case, I was like, nothing happens.

[Jason]

Right.

[Jay]

But now, worst case is something happens and it's just me by myself. And that's been really freaking me out about death. And I used to think as like, I genuinely deadass. And I know this is, this is with being young. I used to think like, if everything doesn't go my way.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Or like, if everything doesn't go the way I want it, I'll just end it and restart. Like, I used to be so optimistic about death as it being this thing that like.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah. You always were that way.

[Jay]

Like, yeah, I'll just. Literally just in least harmful way, I'll just kill myself.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I'll do it all over again. And not in like a sad way or anything. I'll just be like, I'm gonna run it back. Like a new player in a video game.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I don't think like that anymore, which is really scary. And my DMT experience wasn't even was. It wasn't even an experience. It was just the fact that I was. For about four minutes I was gone and I couldn't communicate with anybody out here. And I was freaking me the fuck out.

[Jason]

Have you thought about developing some skills? What? Oh, of being alone. Like, when I was your age, I, I definitely was the type of person that would be like, if I didn't have people around me, I'd freak out. Like, I'd, I'd call people, like, what are you doing? Like, I, I have to, I have to be around people. But then as I got older, I was like, oh, I'm fine.

[Jay]

I don't know, I think I go, I, I go on waves.

[Jason]

Weren't you gonna go do a vlog by yourself?

[Jay]

Yeah, for my 30th.

[Jason]

Well, it doesn't have to be for your 30th.

[Jay]

No, I know, but that was the idea. But yeah. Yeah, you should do it. Yeah.

[Jason]

Put together like an old fashioned.

[Jay]

It's not that I'm scared of being by myself.

[Jason]

Sure.

[Jay]

It's just a lot of energy. That's the only thing that's holding me back from it. I do like the idea, but it's just like traveling to, like, Serbia or wherever. I fucking make this vlog, like, just by myself. Like, I don't know, airport, tsa. The whole thing, it just like exhausts me to think about. That's all right. It's not that I'm scared of doing the journey by myself. I wouldn't want to do that journey. I wouldn't want to add a trip.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

In general.

[Jason]

Right, right.

[Jay]

Let alone I have to go do by myself. So I don't know.

[Jason]

Going to Kenya on Tuesday.

[Jay]

Going to Kenya Tuesday, which I'm excited about.

[Jason]

Yeah. And then London.

[Jay]

Really? Oh, yeah. And then London.

[Jason]

Hey, I'm going to London in September. I'm moving Wyatt into school.

[Jay]

Oh, I'll go at the same time.

[Jason]

Oh, really? I was going to ask you that. Yeah.

[Jay]

Do you want to do the road trip with me?

[Carl's Jr. Spokesperson]

Sure.

[Jay]

Tell us when you're doing it.

[Jason]

I gotta be there. The 14th.

[Jay]

Great. We'll go there. Ah, you're moving your son into school around 9 11.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

For cheaper flights. You pulled the John Method.

[Jason]

That's right. Saving some money.

[Jay]

Saving some money. All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today's podcast. Thank you guys for listening and make sure to tune in for the next one where I review Spider Man. Bye.