First Time Trying DMT

Summary

Podcast Summary: VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: First Time Trying DMT
Date: March 10, 2026

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Main Theme

In this highly anticipated episode, David Dobrik and Jason Nash finally culminate their trilogy of DMT discussions with the much-promised “finale”—David’s first experience with DMT, the powerful psychedelic, followed by Jason giving it a try as well. The episode is a mixture of nervous anticipation, candid psychedelic storytelling, humor, and self-reflection. The gang dives into expectations, fears, lived experiences, and the elusive “breakthrough” that DMT users often describe, all while keeping the VIEWS podcast’s signature banter, self-deprecation, and chaotic group dynamic.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Anticipation and Nerves Before Trying DMT

• David opens up about his fear of transitioning “from being alive to not being alive” ([02:01]), reflecting common pre-trip anxieties about psychedelics.
• The crew discusses DMT’s plant origins and supposed lack of hangover or lasting negative effects ([04:02]), but David is notably skeptical, continuing to Google worst-case scenarios.
• Humor cuts tension, with the gang joking about dividing up David's assets in case things go wrong ([06:22], [07:11]), and pseudo-will-making ensues:
  • “Rest of the money in my bank account, I want you to light on fire.” – David ([07:11])

2. Preparation, Ritual, and Group Dynamics

• A large group is present for the experiment, but David decides to have only one person with him during the trip, citing nervousness with too many eyes watching ([06:00]).
• They nervously compare the psychedelic plunge to pulling the pin on a grenade ([12:25]).
• Stakes are heightened by the repeated joke that someone in the group might wind up talking to God about a “keyword” to prove reality ([11:01]) and that this is a “bucket list” moment ([09:25]).
• David reflects on his curiosity:
  • “I’m like, having this weird, like, spiritual alien journey, but I also can’t find the vocabulary to describe anything.” ([05:03])

3. David’s DMT Experience (“The Waiting Room”)

The Trip

• David takes three hits but notes he only held them in his lungs for about nine seconds each ([13:56]), suspecting this lessened the effects.
• He describes the early effects as classically psychedelic—dizzy, walls with patterns, multiplication of faces—but stops short of a “breakthrough.”
• Key imagery includes a white box in the distance, surrounded by taunting, jester-like figures:
  • “There was like a white box... and everything in front of it were the most terrifying imaginable characters... almost like there was something that was further away.” ([14:33])
  • “They were like taunting me... but I can’t put my words to what it was... it was more like really creepy... gestures. Gestures. Gestures.” ([15:31], [16:40])
• He never feels fully detached—he’s aware of his surroundings, can’t open his eyes but could still hear friends and environmental sounds ([15:59], [26:34]).
• Jason and friends label his experience “the waiting room,” referencing a common sub-threshold DMT narrative ([22:54]):
  • “You were in the lobby. Call of Duty.” – David ([23:21])

Aftermath and Reflection

• David acknowledges he didn’t reach the “breakthrough” and suspects not holding the vapor long enough or not dosing high enough ([20:15], [22:32]).
• He expresses disappointment but relief, comparing the trip’s flavor unfavorably to mushrooms and calling it “bullshit psychedelic part of the trip” ([20:22], [44:03]).
• The crew discusses the importance of “taking one more hit” beyond comfort to reach the full effect ([35:02], [35:15]).
• “I know how to do it now.” – David, pledging to try again ([22:16]).
• He’s grateful for the experience with friends but doubles down on not condoning drug use for listeners ([12:06], [45:13]).

4. Jason Nash’s Turn—Immediate Reaction and Comparison

• Jason, somewhat reluctantly, agrees to try (“I'm not a pussy.” – Jason, [28:28]) mostly for the podcast’s narrative payoff ([28:56]).
• He takes two hits; his experience is intense but not transformative:
  • “Mine was just like... my eyelids were all alive... dancing with frogs, but it was my eyelids but a million frogs. So now you're like, oh my God, this fucking frog’s eating my brain.” – Jason ([31:59])
• He calls the experience “terrible,” reports heart discomfort, and feels no lasting aftereffects within minutes ([32:22], [34:06]).
• Both David and Jason compare notes and agree their trips were shallow, theorizing the issue was dose or not holding the vapor long enough ([33:00], [34:13]).
• Jason’s conclusion: “It’s so stupid. Like, who cares? Even if you do go to the fucking... Even if you get to see Mars and the elves, it’s like, what? What’s gonna come out of it?” ([41:41])

5. Group Debates: Should Anyone Else Try? What Even Is the Point?

• The group contemplates whether Natalie (“Nat”) or others should make an attempt; the consensus is cautious, given their own underwhelming results ([44:45]).
• There’s a lively debate over whether the “breakthrough” is worth chasing or just a hype train ([41:51], [43:35]), with recurring jokes about being “in the waiting room” or stuck with “demons.”
• David gleefully volunteers himself as the next session’s “shaman” ([24:18]).

6. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “You're too much of a pussy to take that fourth hit!” – Jason, mocking his own lack of nerve ([39:35])
• “That's so good. That feels like I'm in my trip now.” – David, on their jesting about DMT jesters ([39:59])
• “I feel fine now. Not fine. There's no lag.” – Jason, post-trip, on how quickly DMT wears off ([34:06])
• “Losers. Wait, so you're totally fine now, totally fine, huh?” – David, highlighting how ephemeral the effects are ([37:57])
• “Why are you hating from outside the club when you can’t even get in?” – David, calling out Jason for criticizing what he hasn’t experienced ([42:04])

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp

• Pre-trip anxiety:
  • “The moment I’m so scared of is... going from reality to darkness.” – David ([02:01])
• On the experience:
  • “I’m like, having this weird, like, spiritual alien journey, but I can’t find the vocabulary to describe anything.” – David ([05:03])
  • “It was almost like there was something that was further away... a white box... and [in front of it] the most terrifying imaginable characters you could imagine.” – David ([14:33])
  • “I couldn’t open my eyes. I couldn’t figure out what they were... had to use my mind to spin them around...” – David ([18:27])
• Post-trip deflation:
  • “I just got the fucking bullshit psychedelic part of the trip.” – David ([20:22])
• Jason’s report:
  • “Alex, you are a straight up demon right now, bro... you look like Skeletor.” – Jason ([31:14])
  • “It just wasn’t fun the whole time.” – Jason ([32:26])
• Metacommentary:
  • “Even if you do go to the fucking... Even if you get to see Mars and the elves, it’s like, what? What’s gonna come out of it?” – Jason ([41:41])
• Self-aware summary:
  • “It’s stupid when you’re out, but, like, if you actually get it, could it be kind of cool?” – David ([43:37])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Details | |:-------------:|:--------------------------------------------:|:--------------------------------------------------------------------------:| | 01:27 | Introduction to DMT Finale | David announces he's about to try DMT | | 05:03 | David on Dual Personalities | Self-reflection on his “spiritual journey” and comedic persona | | 12:20 | Pre-trip Jitters | David articulates anxiety about "pulling the pin on a grenade" | | 13:56 | David’s DMT Use | Takes three hits, reflects on intensity but no full dissociation | | 14:33 | David’s Visuals | Describes “white box” and strange, taunting figures | | 20:22 | Disappointment, “Waiting Room” | David realizes he didn’t fully break through; discusses “waiting room” | | 28:56 | Jason Decides to Try | Does it for podcast’s story arc | | 31:14 | Jason Reports Terrifying Hallucinations | Sees “demons,” describes negative physical and mental sensations | | 34:06 | Immediate Aftermath Reactions | Both feel normal almost instantly after coming down | | 35:15 | The “Fourth Hit” Conundrum | Reluctance to “go all the way”; group discusses what holds them back | | 41:41 | Philosophical Debrief | Jason mulls over the purpose of chasing such experiences | | 44:02 | Mushroom vs. DMT Reflection | Both prefer mushroom trips; DMT underwhelms | | 45:10 | Final Thoughts & Signing Off | Both hosts reiterate: don’t try this at home |

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Recap: The Tone and Takeaway

The episode perfectly captures VIEWS’ irreverent and self-aware humor, blending deep curiosity with tongue-in-cheek nihilism about the outcomes. Both David and Jason underscore that while DMT is daunting and hyped, their experiences were subdued—neither reached the fabled “breakthrough,” but both underwent classic psychedelic sensations with unsettling or comedic hallucinations (“waiting room,” “jesters,” “Skeletor”). Throughout the episode, they maintain a balance between candid exploration and responsible messaging, repeatedly warning listeners not to emulate their experiment.

Best represented by:

“It’s stupid when you’re out, but, like, if you actually get it, could it be kind of cool?”
— David ([43:37])

And the last note about identity:

“I feel like—I feel like if you listen up till now and then you got... David tried it, didn't work. But you're not gonna believe what happened. I never saw this one coming on my 2026 dance card.”
— Jason ([28:56])

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Final Reflection

Verdict: A bucket-list group experiment that lives in the “waiting room” between curiosity and enlightenment—with laughs, apprehension, and a solid chunk of self-aware anticlimax.
Message for listeners: Do not try this at home. But if you do, maybe take one more hit... or don’t.

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Side effects may occur. Views. What's up, guys? Welcome back to Views. This is the third and final installment of the TMT trilogy with the finale of. Is David gonna do it? I have it in my hand, allegedly, for all the lawyers listening, and I. Yeah, I think I'm gonna do it.

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Yeah. Maloon here he is, the star player today, David Dobrik. David, how do you feel?

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Yeah, I'm like, being here and like, it's just like I'm charging it right now on charge. Fuse. Yeah, it's like. It's in. It's basically like wax and like this pen. Yeah. No, I'm really scared.

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We talked to the guy last night and he gave us a real good rundown of what it is.

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I keep. I want to hear what he has to say, but I keep looking things up. I don't know. I'm like, trying to look up negative stuff about it.

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Yeah.

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And it's like. I don't know. I think the moment I'm so scared of is the. The hit. The. The. The being alive to not being alive, going from reality to darkness is like what I'm scared of.

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He said the back of your brain just goes out behind your head and you're just like. He said. You take one hit, then you take a second hit.

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I just don't understand. I'm going to take one hit and then another hit.

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So you're going to go hyperventilate, like in and out, in and out, and then take one hit.

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Wim HOF Method. Okay.

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Yeah. Wim Hof.

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Hold it for 30 seconds.

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He didn't say 30 seconds. Hold it, blow it out. And Then take one more hit. Hold it. He said, by then you should be gone. Blow it out.

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Wow.

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And then he told a really funny story that he was in the club and he had it with him, and he was. It was with some friends, and his friend was just like. She was like, oh, is that a vape? And she grabbed it and she went like that. And he was like, no, no, no, no, no. And then she just dropped in the club and just sat there for 10 minutes.

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Oh, my God.

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And they were like. And then she came out of it and she was like, what the hell was that? That was the greatest experience of my life.

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Wow.

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Oh, my.

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I feel like that would be the

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best way to take it.

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Like, knowing. Oh, not knowing.

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Yes. Which you almost did to me today.

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Not knowing. Well, not not knowing, jokingly, not knowing would definitely be the best way to do it. I mean, I think the more we talk about it, the more I'm gonna get nervous. I think I'm just gonna go for it.

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Anyone else here want to try it?

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You're not on the mic. John?

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No.

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Oh, no, no, no.

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John just spoke, then was offered the mic and said, no, this is private

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conversation and this is gonna be 15 minutes.

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I think at most we should time it.

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I think at most, I think. I think I've seen people say, 5, 10, 15. I've seen all those numbers.

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And he said, no, no hangover the next day. No, like, say you're a little foggy for like a half hour after. But no, like, drawback or.

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No, come on, dude. I mean, but do you understand so crazy that it's all like this, like, it's all, like, so glamorous. It's like, why don't people. Why aren't people doing every day?

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I think that people aren't doing it every day because it's not like a Molly or something else where it's making you more social. Like you're going so deep inside yourself

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that I guess I'll have that answer.

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Yeah, you're going to tell us.

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And the other thing is, it's. I didn't know this, but it's just made from plants. Yeah, yeah.

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It's natural.

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It's natural. So, yeah.

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Found on earth. Well, whatever. I'll probably. I'll probably end up throwing up.

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Is like, should we get a bucket?

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No, let it just be.

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And then what's going to happen when you do it? Are we all going to leave the room?

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Let it just be raw.

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Well, I don't like a bucket ear, because that just like that's just like, what is that called?

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Encouraging you suggestion.

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No, there's like a good word for it.

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Eyesore.

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No, not eyesore. Murphy's Law. No.

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Close. And once again, this podcast is the words.

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Once again, David's trying to be deep, but he's an idiot. It's kind of funny. I'm like, stuck between two personalities currently. I'm like, having this weird, like, spiritual alien journey, but I also can't find the vocabulary to describe anything. Like, so I'm so interested in everything. But, like, I was thinking about, I was like, I feel like people are obviously going, like, crazy, like, like listening to this pod.

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Yeah.

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And I'm like, it makes sense because, like, the way I describe it is like a fucking 20 year old kid would. Yeah. So, yeah, so it's a little different.

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Yeah. Our friend was like, what's going on? Is he searching for something?

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Oh, I don't know. I'm just, like, really curious. I don't know. There's like a lot of science points. Just go for it. Yeah. It could just be my for you page.

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Oh, my for you page is so bad. I know exactly what you're feeling. I looked at it this morning.

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All right.

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Like, not now, Jay.

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I'm gonna. Yeah, we just keep.

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Are we leaving the room? I mean, I don't want all of you here.

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I'm not gonna, like, choose who I want, but.

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Okay.

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I think this should be one person. Okay, so who wants to be the person?

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I'll stay. Well, he's just gonna lie back.

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I feel like you guys all watching me is really nerve wracking.

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I'm reverbing before you do it.

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If anything happens and there's one side effect I actually forgot to mention.

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Wait, that's not yours. That's not yours. That's not yours.

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You want to leave anything to anybody before you take this? You want John to have anything else?

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I guess I'll, you know, I'll give my cars to. I'll give my cars to Tay.

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You could sell them.

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That's nice.

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Thank you.

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Of course, I'll give.

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That's probably a million dollars there. Really nice. I can switch the pen if you

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want some good money there. I'll give my parents half the house and my friends the other half.

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Okay.

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50. 50.

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Yeah, it's pretty good. Okay, so you guys can sell the house and split the money. Okay. If there's any profits or anything. And then otherwise, rest of money in my bank account, I want you to light on fire.

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I Knew you were gonna say that. I knew. You want anyone else to have it? What about the pod?

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The pod? Yeah.

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Pod. Can. Can Natalia continue?

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Yeah, you can go video. Okay. All right. Here we go.

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Yeah.

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And.

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And. And what. What if. What if you are changed after this?

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Well, this is my. This is my philosophy on this.

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Yeah.

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Let's say I come out of this and I'm like, I want to be a. What's something that I hate right now? Like, I. Like, I want to do what Natalie did. Study biology and plants. Yeah, right. Like I'm a super earth freak. Like, okay, well, it's like I'm just like. It's like, so now what? I'm into, like, farm. Being on a farm.

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Sure.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Like, that's not what I want to do.

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Okay.

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But like, if that is all of a su. A sudden what I want to do.

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Yeah.

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Then that's what I want to do. And it's not like I'm like. You know what I mean? Like, whether or not. Whether or not it's real. It's how I feel because I'm there. Well, it just goes back. It goes that lyric down. It goes back to my example of when my mom. When I was sick and I didn't want to go to school. Yeah. And she was like, it's just allergies. And I'm like, I don't care if it's just allergies.

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Yeah.

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I'm feeling sick.

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We're not gonna get like a secondhand contact high, are we?

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You going to set timer?

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I mean. Yeah. I'm fully shaking.

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Okay, breathe, breathe, breathe.

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John, put your phone down. He's going to send me to bat trip this dirty toes, too.

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You're going to love those toes in 15 minutes.

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That's all I see is toes talking to my big fat toe.

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What if it's just John?

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I'm. I'm John's toe for 30 years. That's. That's what I'm in.

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Oh, my God.

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Godamn.

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We got to loosen up a little bit, guys. Come on. This is going to be fun.

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Why. Why are you. Why are guys tense? You guys are so lucky.

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I know.

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How excited are you guys right now?

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This is maybe the best thing I've ever seen. I mean, I can't think of anything.

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I mean, it's so fun to watch, like, a friend do something. Like, really, like dmt. Yeah. I mean, this is probably the peak of fun.

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It couldn't be any funner. I can't think of anything, you know, better than Anything better than an orgy?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, better than an orgy.

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And orgies are great.

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Don't look at me, John.

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I can't wait to check this off my bucket list.

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Oh, my God. And you know what's gonna be cool for you? You're gonna be able to. You're gonna be at a party and someone's gonna bring it up and they're gonna be like, dmt. I did dmt. And you're gonna love that.

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I also thought people were gonna bring up the seven Wonders, but no, not once. I'll spend the rest of my life. Anybody here have anything to ask about dmt? I also don't wanna become the DMT guy. This is the last time we're gonna talk about dmt.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Other than, like, when I accidentally repeat a story in four years, you think I'm gonna be like, have we ever talked about when I did dmt? I haven't done dmt.

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Right.

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Okay. All right.

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Just for three episodes. Okay.

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Here we go.

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Oh, baby. Let's go. David, I want to say.

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Don't say anything. Don't give me any credits or anything.

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Okay. All right.

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I'm really not done yet. There's very. There's room for me to check it out.

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You're giving a lot to the audience. It's great. Here we go. Okay.

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I don't get it. That's. That's the only thing. I don't get it. I'm seeing all of you right now. I don't get it. I don't get how this smoke is going to knock me out. I don't get it.

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Yeah.

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What do you mean? It's just, like, chemically in your brain. Like everything in your. Everything in your body is, like, connected in some chemical way. So it just turns it off or switches it or whatever. Pretty straightforward.

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You want to have access to your body.

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Okay. Just for. For the people at home. I'm. We're sitting in the movie room. I'm on the Cloud couch. Taylor's on the floor. Naveen, Jason across from me. John's got his socks off and he's kind of sitting on the top end of the couch. Julia's here. Natalie's here. Alex is here. There's a big crowd.

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Should we have, like, a keyword so when you come back to reality, you know, like, this is it.

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Yeah, that's good.

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No. Cause then the keyword's just going to be in my thing. What do you mean?

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What do you think?

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Yeah.

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You want him to.

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I'm fucking Talking to God. And he's going to be like, bumblebee. I'm going to go, wait, that's what Alex happened. Wait, what's going on? Yes, Dave. Bumblebee.

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Fucking Natalie. Please be able to have a key word.

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Just me walking through, like, a big fucking big forest. God damn it, Natalie. Just on my own beautiful green fields. Natalie.

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What if it's just the Avengers? It's just. It's just like New Doomsday.

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That's funny. The new movie.

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The. Guys, it's out.

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It's out. What's interesting is, like, what I'm about to. I don't know. I don't want to overhype it. I don't want to overhype it because I'm just. I'm scared. It can't possibly be as good as people are describing it. I also don't condone any of this. That's obvious.

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Yeah.

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This is strictly for. Don't condone it. As I've been hyping it up.

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We just did a 20 minute ramp up.

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We did two. We did a trilogy. We did a trilogy about DMT. The scariest moment is when I'm. When I'm gonna hold the smoke in my lungs.

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Yeah.

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And I'm gonna be looking at you guys. That's gonna be the scariest.

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Waiting for a time. It'll happen so soon.

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Cause it's going to be like I pulled the pin on a grenade and like.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You're just waiting.

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Like, it's. It's. It's. I'm in it. It's over. That's going to be the scariest.

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Well, have you ever gone under for surgery?

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Yeah. Like, very small.

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I think it'll just be like that. Like.

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I know, I know. But I like that more because there's.

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John looks like a doctor.

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Yeah. John does look like a doctor. It's just the going under. It's just that. That I'm, like, nervous about once I. Yeah. A potato. I think I'll be good.

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Yeah. And you got a nice pillow behind you there on your head. That's good.

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I mean, I couldn't be more comfortable.

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Okay, guys, this is Post DMT quitting the pod. Jay, what did you see from your perspective?

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Just that you were lying down. You took a few, two or three hits, then you sunk in, then you started to complain.

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So I took about three hits.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And like I held them into. In my lungs, but only for about nine seconds.

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Okay.

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I think you're supposed to let it cook in your lungs. I assume when it's in your lungs, it's like spreading through your body. So what happened is on my third hit, which was like the one where I was like, I should go harder. Yeah. Like I. I was like. I was very close, but it was very, very, very evidently, like a true full blown psychedelic, like trip. Like fully psychedelic.

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Oh, in what regard?

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Like in. In the way where it almost felt. And a lot of this was a conversation with myself. So, like, I don't think there were other things at play, but it was almost like there was something that was further away. There was like a white box. Like cliche white box. The light. But it wasn't like shining. It was just a white box. Like, it was like you're looking at a box that. That's the light is on and that everything in front of it were the most terrifying imaginable characters you could ever imagine. Like things I've never seen.

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Like what?

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Huh?

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Like what kind of characters? Like demons.

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Yes, but in like different. In different, like deformed. Like, I couldn't actually. It was very psychedelic, so I couldn't like put my word. Like, I can't put my words to what it was.

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Yeah, just demon. Yeah.

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And it was like they were like taunting me.

[B]

Wow. What the hell?

[A]

And then I was.

[B]

You're the only person to say this.

[A]

And then that's when I was like. I was on my third hit and that's when I asked you. I was like. That's what I was like. I'm still. I could. I heard the sink or something and I was like, I'm still like 50. 50. Like I'm still like here. But I can't open my eyes. I couldn't open my eyes.

[B]

Could you leave your body?

[A]

But I would describe him as demons. Imagine.

[B]

Let it scare you.

[A]

Whatever. Imagine you know what it was. And I think it's an unfortunate thing that I just saw it. It's what the trailer for Eyes Wide Shut is like. The trailer, not the movie. Not the movies, but just the vibe. Just the vibe. Of the trailer.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, very. Like that.

[B]

Evil.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. And so you just didn't go all the way there and then.

[A]

Yeah. And then I was like, this is. Then I was like, having a conversation with myself. I'm like, this is either, like, some sort of fucking test here that I need to push through.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But also I'm like. I'm three hits in. Like, I. I was told two. So, like, I don't want to. I don't want to keep going. I also, like, didn't really, like, like, the people there. I didn't like what I was looking at. It was like, gesture. It was like jesters. Gestures. Gestures. Yeah. It wasn't demonic. I think demonic's a little. Little too scary. It was more like really creepy. Old.

[B]

I'm right here.

[A]

Really old creepy video. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And this isn't me putting DMT down. I genuinely think I just got enough of it where I'm like, you know what? I think I'm good. Like.

[B]

Oh, man. I knew it. I knew this was gonna happen.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I knew you would beat the drug.

[A]

No, I didn't. I didn't beat. I genuinely think, like, you were.

[C]

You weren't.

[A]

Like, there was, like. There was like, a good, like, what felt like two minutes where I. Where I was, like my third hit that I held for the longest, that felt like it was like incubating or, like, baking something. But, like, that was already. After the two hits of, like, you guys started to, like, melt. Not melt, but you guys started to, like, multiply. Just like a very dizzy. Like, you're just getting. And that started to freak me out, too. And then I started seeing, like, shapes on the wall. Like, very psychedelic, very cliche psychedelic stuff. And I was like, I don't. That's not. I don't like that. Like, I don't. And that's. That's what I don't like, because it

[B]

was just like, he was only gone for 11 minutes.

[A]

I could definitely do it again. Yeah, but why would you. When you saw them.

[C]

But I really.

[A]

I don't like the word demons.

[C]

All right.

[A]

I think. I think. I think. Because you know what? I also couldn't. I couldn't figure out what they were. It almost felt like when. When they were looking at me, it almost Like I had to spin them. Spin them around with my head. Like, I had to use my mind to spin them around because the other side of them was, like, light, like, was, like, a brighter version of them. And I, like. And I. I think I was like. And Then they just kept kind of spinning, so they were really deformed. I don't know how to. I don't know how to explain it, but that. That's a. Yeah, that's. For the most part, that's what happened. But, yeah.

[C]

Naveen, I know this sounds crazy, but I think you should do it again. Just because I was reading while you were laying down and it said if you're even able to talk or be annoyed by a noise or something, you haven't reached the breakthrough. And before the breakthrough, that's where it's, like, totally weird and feels weird, but past that is you're a different being. And, like, it says, like, your ego breaks. And so I feel like I would hate for you to just be like,

[B]

oh, we're going back in.

[A]

Well, I don't think it's right for me to go back in now.

[B]

No.

[A]

Why? What do you think? Because it's. I just feel like it's probably one

[B]

of those drugs where you have to space it out by a few months.

[A]

I just don't. I don't think I should, like, hop back in. Like, I just. I was at, like, some edge.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think you should do

[A]

more, and I don't think I should just run it back right now. I feel like that's really weird.

[B]

We need someone else to do it. I also think that the vape might be an issue.

[A]

No, no, no. I know what it is. I know what it is.

[B]

You.

[A]

I think you have to let it bake inside you.

[B]

I thought you normally really good at following and, like, breathing stuff.

[A]

No, no, I brought. No, I brought it all the way down. But, like, I think you have to hold it in for 30 seconds. I'm telling you, I saw where it was, but I did not get there.

[B]

Yeah, but you don't feel any differently after doing it.

[A]

No, because it never happened.

[B]

Something happened.

[A]

No, I was. I just got the fucking bullshit psychedelic part of the trip. Like, I got the bullshit, like, random shit on the ceiling.

[B]

This is what he described the way last night.

[A]

What, the waiting room? Yeah.

[C]

If you don't. Yeah, it's like, exactly how he described. Make sure you take a lot, because if you take less than, it's just, like, psychedelic weird.

[A]

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. It was just.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Fuck me. And I think it was.

[B]

I feel like the vape is the issue.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

She took three.

[A]

It's not having a person here because,

[C]

like, we didn't know, like, exactly how much to breathe. Like, we're Jason's like off of how he did it.

[A]

And then when I was going out I asked you guys like eight or nine minutes and I was like, should I do one more hit?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I was like. Then when I started like to like think about hitting it and I just saw more of those psychedelic like fucking weirdos.

[B]

Yeah. And you were like no way.

[A]

I was like why?

[B]

Were you like trying to return or were you trying to go deeper?

[A]

I was trying to go deeper off the three hits that I took.

[B]

This is like Al Capone's vault. There was a show, Geraldo Rivera had like a two hour special once on TV Dating Myself. There was a guy, it's like a reporter. His name is Geraldo Rivera and he like they did this huge build up that he was going to open Al Capone's vault on live TV.

[A]

Oh there's nothing in the vault.

[B]

Like yeah, 40 million people tuned in. We're all like what's in the vault? And he opened at the last second and he's like oh nothing here.

[A]

I feel really bad.

[B]

That's a bit of a tease. But yeah, I feel bad. I mean I'll do it if Naveen thinks I should do it.

[C]

Oh I thought if Naveen does that.

[B]

Well, Natalie was doing some research. What did you. Yeah, what did you check out?

[C]

It says definitely don't do it. Don't like re hit it. Don't like try to chase it again right now.

[A]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm definitely down to do it again. I'm gonna be so jealous if you guys fucking see some shit and you guys go into the promised land. I know how to do it now.

[B]

I'm surprised. Didn't work. You took big hits.

[A]

I took huge hits.

[B]

Yeah but does it on the package does it say 30 seconds hold it.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't know what that meant.

[B]

Well I didn't see that cuz my glass, I don't have my glasses but is that what it says?

[A]

It said hold for 30. No, it doesn't say hold for. It says hold 30 seconds. So I don't know what that meant. I didn't know if that was the, that was the time between the hits or what it was.

[C]

Oh, it says that that like waiting room type experience where like you kind of see something in the distance is common. If you haven't like when you're not fully reaching the like dose maximum potential.

[B]

He's in the waiting room.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. It's what you're describing it really. Yeah.

[B]

You literally, literally are in a waiting room.

[A]

It was Fully waiting room. Yeah, Yeah, I was fully like just random people I didn't want to see.

[B]

You're in the lobby. Call of Duty.

[A]

Damn it, dude, I'm really. I wanted to be the guy.

[B]

Well, you are the guy.

[A]

This is the revel.

[B]

Steal your thunder.

[A]

Do you want to try, Jay?

[B]

I mean, I do, but then I don't know. What do you think?

[C]

It's really. I mean, it's your experience.

[A]

Naveen all of a sudden is like, Jason, this is the scariest thing ever. When she was hyping it up to me all day. Damn, it's so easy.

[C]

No, I want. I want you to do it. I think it sounds so interesting that I feel like why would you not.

[B]

The only reason. The only reason I would do it for the. Is for the podcast, but.

[A]

But I do the waiting room thing makes complete sense. I was not there and I would. Whoever. Does it just mean you? And I'll tell you how long to hold it because it's actually tremendous. I'm the shaman.

[B]

Thanks, Dave. Appreciate it, man.

[A]

Let me say this. I'm gonna do it again.

[B]

I'm glad we have a waiting room expert here. Yo, this guy, he's been in the waiting room, man.

[A]

I just fucking trust the receptionist at the DMT office.

[B]

Oh, don't worry about that. They're just ghouls here.

[A]

Just fill out some paperwork and just one more hit, please.

[B]

They're jesters. They're fine. Nat, what about you?

[C]

Like, do I have a curiosity?

[B]

Yeah. Do you want to do it at all?

[C]

I think so.

[B]

Maybe. Well, now would be a great time.

[A]

I'm so sorry, guys.

[C]

Damn. I would love for John would be interesting.

[A]

No, I'd be terrible. Dude. I feel like being in the waiting room, but I'd be being eaten. You know what I mean?

[B]

Eating in the waiting room.

[A]

No, I'd be eating like having a. That would be a good waiting room.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I wish I took more. I can see David this time around. He's like the shaman from Avatar. He's like. He's like, follow the light. And it's that scene, you know, like where they finally do a body transformation and he. They open their eyes and then the whole Avatar song comes out. Oh, that'd be sick. Like when it goes. When the guy becomes human to Avatar. Yeah, that'd be sick. Could you imagine?

[C]

Damn, that would be sick.

[A]

That'd be great.

[C]

You are Avatar.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

I'm afraid of what I'll see.

[A]

No, no, no, no, Jay, it's not.

[B]

I have so many demons.

[C]

You do?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no, I feel you guys. I'm with you on this one. Wait, guys. This isn't a demons thing.

[B]

I just have. I just have such a hard time with reality that I'm afraid what I'll see in the fantasy.

[A]

Okay, so that. But what. What I was seeing wasn't like. Wasn't like things from my past.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It wasn't like my. It was literally hallucinations. Like, it's. It was just straight up. I was hallucinating. There's no better word to describe it. It was the most classic Eyes Wide Shut hallucinations you'll ever see. It's almost like it was a textbook.

[B]

But you couldn't open your eyes and you couldn't move your body.

[A]

I could move my body. I could not open my eyes. It's funny because, like, my voice felt like it was down here. Like, in my stomach. I was like, can I reach it to the. Can I get it to the surface?

[C]

Yeah. You were yelling at us.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Really?

[B]

I could hear everything.

[C]

He was like. I. He was like, turn the lights off. And then I turned the lights off. And then I was gonna open the door and then he can't see me at all. And he goes, but don't open that door. I was like, oh, how do you know?

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Because I told you to go tell everyone to be quiet too.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah. And you know, tell everyone to be quiet. I hear sinks

[A]

five.

[C]

My concern is I just smoked weed like a couple hours ago. So I just, like, don't want it to, like, chemically.

[A]

I don't think it's like that.

[C]

Mix or something.

[A]

I don't think it's like that.

[C]

I don't think it is either.

[A]

I'm also. We're hungover from Vegas last night.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I don't think that, like, right now is my time. Like, I'm just here to come and support you.

[A]

Fair enough.

[B]

Fair enough. That's out. Yeah. Naveen.

[C]

You and Alex.

[B]

Me and Alex.

[A]

Rock, paper, scissors.

[B]

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[B]

All right, I'll do it. Wow.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Wait, David, you didn't feel anything with,

[A]

like, your heart, Jay, but you deadass swear to God. Yeah, you deadass swear to God. Actually, you're really honest about this type of stuff.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Don't exaggerate anything.

[B]

I won't.

[A]

Okay, so I know you like when you taste food. You go, this is amazing.

[C]

You know what?

[A]

People.

[B]

People are on me about that. I. I'm a food addict.

[A]

No, I know.

[B]

I, like, love food.

[C]

Wait, do you want us to all be here? Do you want us to step out?

[B]

You guys can stay.

[A]

I'm not a pussy.

[B]

We could stay. I don't want to do it, but I'm gonna do it.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Because I feel like we're cheating the audience.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no.

[B]

The audience's expectation was, like. I think would. Was for David to be like. And then I saw this.

[A]

Well, I think it's interesting that we got to the waiting room and that you clarified it, that there was. That it was, like, an actual real thing. Okay, guys, Views Podcasts wouldn't be views without Jason Nash also going in. Wait, wait, Jay, before you do it, can you explain why you're doing it in the podcast?

[B]

I'm just doing it for the listeners. You guys have been so good to me. You guys been. You guys have always been there for me. I love you guys. I feel like. I feel like. I feel like if you listen to up till now and then you got. I've been reading movie books. If you got this twist, you're like, yo, Jason did it. You know, like. Like, David tried it, didn't work. But you're not gonna believe what happened. I never saw this one coming on my 2026 dance card. So let's go. All right, here we go.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. Wait, wait.

[A]

Sorry. Can I just see you? I'm going to. I'm going to turn it off when you go in.

[C]

Why don't you just put the LEDs on?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. The blue.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. This lighting kind of makes me want to do it.

[A]

Do you want to?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

You know what? I'll see how Jay does do it. If they meet up there and they high five,

[B]

We could both DJ there.

[C]

Just living the dream.

[A]

It's fucking. It's Thanos. He's like, yo, Dave's still in the waiting room. Y' all have full access to all these amenities. Okay.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Oh, my God. Okay. I took One hit. And now I'm gonna. I've been holding it for what, 10 seconds?

[A]

This is crazy. You're talking through like that.

[B]

I'm talking. How long am I holding this?

[A]

Stop shaking your foot. You're freaking.

[B]

Six seconds.

[A]

Seven.

[B]

I feel it.

[A]

Yep,

[B]

I'm holding it, I'm holding it, I'm holding it. 7.

[A]

Deep down in your lungs.

[B]

Yeah, man. It's in my lungs, dog.

[A]

I mean, this is a different perspective. Okay, one more.

[B]

Oh, you guys are going away.

[A]

Wait, one more. Are you good?

[B]

Oh, my God. Fuck. You guys like, you guys like literally. John started a fucking. Oh my God.

[A]

It's okay, you're good.

[C]

It'll go away.

[B]

It's the worst. Don't do drugs, kids.

[A]

This guy sells a bad patch.

[B]

It's fucking terrible.

[A]

Is it like I described?

[B]

Yeah. Oh my God, David, we're gonna be look like such losers. We're gonna be like these two guys, they couldn't even do dmt, Bro. Alex, you are a straight up demon right now, bro. Bro, you look like Skeletor. You know Skeletor?

[A]

All right. No, you'.

[B]

Yeah, you're like Alex's. Alex's face was like. Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

So it's kind of like. It's just hallucinations, right, bro?

[B]

Mine was just like. I saw my eyelids. My eyelids were like all alive. Like dancing with frogs, but like, it was my eyelids but a million frogs. So now you're like, oh my God, this fucking frog's eating my brain. And then you're just like, nothing good's going on. My heart hurts.

[A]

Yeah, probably cause you were nervous

[B]

and it was just like. It just wasn't fun the whole time.

[A]

I don't think we're doing. You did less than me in theory.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't think we're doing enough.

[C]

Alex.

[B]

Alex.

[A]

Oh, God, bro, this is crazy. I wish people saw us actually taking us taking these big hits. Yeah.

[B]

And I held mine in forever. And I mean, I was. I fucking pulled on it. I know what you mean by not wanting to do it again.

[A]

No, that feeling you get over in like 10 minutes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

As I start talking more about it. I wanted to do it again. But yeah, initially it was just like, why am I doing this?

[C]

You were so, like. Because you were still communicating with us through it, which is kind of interesting.

[B]

I would.

[C]

I would assume that you would not

[B]

be like, yeah, it means I didn't do it. Right. I think it's so scary that you pretty much. I pretty was. I was like, oh, that's it. It's done. That's so scary.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Okay. Similar experiences.

[B]

So, Al, here you go.

[A]

This is so funny.

[B]

I mean, how long was I gone for? Like, two minutes, five seconds? It was very short.

[C]

Yeah. Short few minutes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A few minutes or five seconds?

[A]

Well, like, you didn't talk for maybe

[B]

five seconds, and then I was talking.

[A]

You were talking quick. Ugh.

[B]

The worst.

[A]

But is it over?

[B]

Yeah, it's over, right? I think.

[A]

Okay. So. So the downside is.

[B]

Yeah, that. That is the good point of it. It's over. It's just good. I feel fine now.

[A]

Not fine. There's no. There's no. Like, there's no lag.

[B]

I knew. I knew exactly. I knew that would happen to me because I. I'm not. I'm not like.

[A]

I think it's because we're not doing it properly. Al, you want to go take it for a spin?

[B]

No, I was gonna do it if Jason did it properly and it went well, but he kind of did the same thing you did, which makes me not want to, because then I'm gonna try to go even harder. And I don't know if doing it properly could be good or bad.

[A]

Like, I was expecting to know that from Jason. We only know improperly. Right? Exactly. I thought I was gonna get the

[B]

reading on proper from Jason. I didn't even get to the waiting room.

[A]

Jay was stuck in traffic.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

Oh, fuck. Well, I think you have to keep hitting that shit till your literal fingers can't fucking touch the pen anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You both said that you didn't want to take another hit at a certain point, like, and you just wanted to feel what you were feeling. But I think it's that next hit, which you don't want to take it because it seems.

[A]

Because you don't want.

[C]

Starting to, like, hallucinate. But you're supposed to, like, when you take the hit, the way that they described it to me is you're out. Like, you're so gone. Yeah, that's why I'm like.

[A]

The hits are like. Everyone, I think, is like, yes. And then, like, I think that's what it's going to be like. That's what I imagine. It definitely feels like. First one, like, makes everything, like, fuzzy. Second one, you're really kind of gone. Third one, waiting room, Harry Potter scene, you know, Like. Like, Harry has to keep feeding that water into his mouth, and he's like, I don't want to, but you told me you have to. You have to. I'm like, no, no, no. I don't. I've just saw Harry Potter. I have no idea what he said. No, the water scene, you know, like, they're trying to destroy the hor. The hawks, the hooks, the hot dogs.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, it's Dumbledore. Dumbledore.

[B]

Dumbledore.

[A]

Oh, yes, Dumbledore. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And when Dumbledore. When they were. It was when Harry and him were destroying the Horcrux and Dumbledore was like, whatever you do, keep feeding it to me.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Okay. I also think that we're not, like, degenerate drug users.

[A]

I was. That's what I was thinking about, too. I'm like, oh, this is like. Yeah, it's. We gotta. You gotta, like, break yourself into this.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Wait, what do you mean? You think having, like, I've hung out

[B]

with, like, druggies and, like, they do this. No problem, and they. You know what I mean?

[A]

And they also, like. It's. To them, it's like. Like, they can, like, monitor it. They're like, I'm here now. I need more. I need more.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

They can adjust it as they go. I think someone that does it regularly,

[B]

they know their limits of, like.

[A]

So we've never done dft, so, like. Yeah, I definitely didn't want to do a fourth hit.

[B]

Did someone say, can you take one more hit?

[A]

That was me. That was you? Because I was like, oh, I think he's where I'm at. So he's got to. He's got to go past it.

[B]

Yeah, it's like. It's like you're coming from, like, the command station. Jason, Jason, this is. This is General Doer, NASA One Tower. We're speaking with you today. How you doing today? And we're going to need you to hit that vape pen one more time, big fella. If we really want to blast off. Now. I wish I had listened to you

[A]

and see we're going through the same now.

[B]

We're going to the same thing.

[A]

Further out of it. And I'm like, just put me back. Yeah, that's really weird.

[B]

It's really weird.

[A]

That's so funny.

[B]

Losers. Wait, so you're totally fine now, totally fine, huh? I mean, like, yeah. I'm so happy. It was nice having.

[A]

I'm depressed. So he's back to normal.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Depressed back there. All right. Oh, that was great. Until I remembered who I was.

[A]

Things are okay. I'm feeling like I'm killing Jay. How you feeling? I feel like I want to kill myself. Things are back to normal. Okay. We gotta fucking end this thing with something good to the audience. Yeah, I know. People are going to hear you go through it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they're not going to know that you're. That you just took two big hits at dmt.

[B]

Right.

[A]

No one will know the money, dude. All right, hold on. Go for it. The moaning. No, no, no, no. Like, even before that, he was kind of talking.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man, I'm excited. Hello there, David. Welcome to the lobby. Did you come for the right reasons?

[A]

I'm back, bitch.

[B]

Oh, so you're trying to break through again? You and your stupid friend. Well, good luck. You're too much of a pussy to take that fourth hit. There you are.

[C]

Oh, my God, I'm scared.

[A]

Jason was just here. That fucking loser.

[B]

Would you like to watch me juggle? Now. Watch this.

[A]

Two balls, four balls.

[B]

5, 6, 7, 8, 9 million balls.

[C]

Give me a say.

[A]

That's so good. That feels like I'm in my trip now.

[B]

Damn, my pants fell down.

[C]

My pants fell down.

[B]

My tiny jester penis is out.

[C]

You have to suck it.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Suck this little cock.

[A]

No. Suck it.

[B]

No.

[A]

I think I kind of. Turn the sink off.

[C]

Turn the sink off.

[B]

Sucking a Chester's cock.

[A]

I kind of want to. Jay, after seeing you come through it, I kind of want to do it again.

[B]

Oh, my God, we're going to be.

[A]

I'm just kidding. The beginning of what you just said, Jay, after. After seeing you do it, I kind of want to do it again. I'm like, I'm so hyped right now.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I know what to expect. I'm ready.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[A]

Or maybe not. I don't know.

[B]

I also just feel like we wouldn't be here if David just didn't have this dumb idea. And also, like, none of us have interest in this. Do you know what I mean? We all have interests.

[A]

No, we. I think we have. We're not here because you asked us

[B]

to be here because. Well, yeah, I guess you have interest in it.

[A]

Yeah, I. Dude, I can't decide.

[B]

Like,

[A]

j. That's Screech.

[B]

You sounded different. I can't decide. Or maybe I'm still tripping over Alex.

[A]

Everybody, look. He's looking at Alex. Alex, put your socks back on. Jay, what do you think?

[B]

Do you want me to be honest?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's so stupid. Like, who cares? Even if you do go to the fucking. Even if you get to see, like, Mars and the elves, it's like, what? What? What's gonna come out of it?

[A]

No, that's not true.

[B]

Okay, well, is something gonna open up inside of him? He's gonna be a better DJ or something like that. Or maybe I have.

[A]

I have. No. Yeah, you know, you have no idea. We're in the fucking waiting room.

[B]

I'm also alone.

[A]

Why are you hating from outside the club when you can't even get in?

[B]

Hey, your fat friend couldn't even get in here.

[A]

Hey, fatso, do I. Would either of you guys want to try it?

[C]

Like, ever?

[A]

I think. Listen, this is no pressure here, but you are the third person on this pod

[C]

involuntarily.

[A]

Yes. Yes. If you're ever going to do it, I would love to hear to complete this pod. Your perspective at the end would be really funny.

[B]

I know what will happen.

[A]

She'll do it.

[B]

Nada will get there.

[C]

Yeah, I think because she smokes weed and stuff. Like, I guess I'm a degenerate drug abuser. She's gonna know how to get there.

[A]

We should have started with our first druggie.

[B]

Yeah, and not even. I wasn't even thinking that. I was just thinking, like, now just get the job done.

[A]

Give it to me, you fucking loser.

[C]

Give me the shit, you fucking losers.

[A]

Well, please be the one. Just so we have this capper with you. The Views Gang Ultra DMT on this episode. David, Jason, Natalie.

[B]

I'll feel really bad if it doesn't work on you because it's like, by then. But then again, I'm fine.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Once you said it was stupid, I was like, that was the most sold I've ever been.

[B]

That's a great point.

[A]

It's stupid when you're out, but, like, if you actually get it, could it be kind of cool?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Wait, what did you see? Like, did you see, like, what he was seeing?

[B]

I saw my eyelids and I saw the inside of my eyelids and the frogs and like. And like a kaleidoscope of like, millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of frogs and like. And then just like, I think.

[C]

But you didn't feel like anything. There was no, like, purpose to it.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah. It was just like, I've done mushrooms and had a really good time. It wasn't love mushrooms. Yeah, but it wasn't that. I think I can finally poop. That's good news.

[C]

Great. Sitting right next to you.

[B]

Yeah. So you guys are constipated. Check out tmt.

[A]

Check out tmt.

[C]

What if I, like, poop myself?

[A]

It's not like that. She fucking shits you get through the waiting room diarrhea and then you have to eat it one more time.

[C]

And then you. Oh,

[B]

I knew this would happen if you came here. That's.

[A]

Let her through. Let her through.

[B]

Nat's like you. She's got a bunch of poop in her finger pants.

[A]

All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today's pod. Thank you for listening. This has been. This has been a bucket list thing of mine to try off. I'm really glad I did it with my friends around me. And, of course, we don't condone any of this. No. Not do this.

[B]

No. I say never, ever, ever try it. Don't do it.

[A]

Yeah. And I will be trying it again in the future, just FYI. I just don't know. I don't know when or where. But why?

[B]

Charlie, this is all AI. It's not a real pod. They're making pods about Daddy now. So, good luck, Dave.

[A]

Bye.

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