How I Lost My Virginity

Summary

Podcast Summary: VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: How I Lost My Virginity
Date: February 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of VIEWS brings David Dobrik, Jason Nash, Natalie Mariduena, and friends into a classic roundtable recounting of embarrassing, hilarious, and revealing stories from their personal lives. The central theme is “first times”—ranging from John’s struggle with pronouncing words to him opening up (reluctantly) about losing his virginity. They also discuss pop culture, misadventures as influencers, reward points obsessions, high school tropes, the Grammys, vertical video trends, and general randomness in the most authentic VIEWS style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. John’s “Fragrance” Redemption and Social Mishaps

00:00–04:31

• The episode opens with the group revisiting John’s infamous mispronunciation of “fragrance” (he previously called it “fragments”); after months of teasing, John finally pronounces it correctly.
  • Memorable moment:
    • David: “Not fragments.” (01:00)
    • Jason: “I think John’s getting smarter. He’s evolving.” (01:02–01:09)
• Story about John trying (and failing) to use his social connections to sneak into a Wallows concert, only to be recognized as “David’s friend” and embarrassed out of trying to bribe security.
  • David: “I love how being friends with me is affecting his way of life and trying to sneak into places.” (04:13–04:31)

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2. John’s Obsession with Rewards Points

05:12–08:31

• John hoards all possible loyalty points—Menchie's, AMC, Tesla referrals—while David can’t stand the hassle:
  • David: "I just feel like putting my number down, I don't like the time." (06:57–07:01)
  • John: “If you have any friends and family discount you want to give me, just let me know.” (07:52–08:03)
• Entertaining back-and-forth on Aeropostale vs. Abercrombie; reflections on their humble thrift-store shopping childhoods.
  • David: “My shoes weren’t even on brand. My shoes were really fucking random.” (09:09–09:20)

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3. Nostalgia: High School Stereotypes and Storytelling

10:12–16:21

• The gang shares high school archetypes:
  • Natalie: “I used to be a skater girl… my bangs used to swoop past my eyes.” (09:42–09:52)
  • David & Jason recall lockers, Sidekicks, and faking injuries for hallway privileges.
• John admits he was quiet, kept to himself, and avoided socializing between classes, preferring “stimulus-free” environments.
  • John: “I wasn’t ever bullied… it was just literally David.” (15:07–15:24)

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4. John’s First Time: Virginity Story

17:06–24:52

• Most anticipated section, where John (finally and awkwardly) describes losing his virginity at age 19.
  • John: “I don’t like talking about my sexual relationships with you guys. It’s the worst when it comes to me…” (19:27–19:35)
• The group pries out the details:
  • He met Angie via one of “the earliest DMs ever” on Instagram, talked for a year before meeting, then flew to South Carolina for their first in-person encounter (where it happened).
    • Natalie: “Damn, John, you were getting it at 19.” (17:15–17:19)
    • David: “You talked for a full year before you met her?” (20:38–20:42)
    • Jason (joking, interrogating): “Now, listen, John, we know this went down. We can do this, you know, the easy way or the hard way.” (22:41–22:47)
• Details: They confirmed each other’s identity via Snapchat; John stayed at her best friend’s house, unbeknownst to the parents.
  • John: “It feels like an investigation every time, dude…” (21:25–21:30)
• Friendly teasing about the desperation of the journey but also genuine curiosity on how digital relationships happen.

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5. Influencer Life: Social Filming Etiquette

25:07–30:49

• Jason recounts an awkward story filming content in a restaurant, with a bystander rudely asking them to stop using a video light.
  • Jason: “‘Can you just stop?’ That’s enough.” (27:39–27:39)
• Natalie shares a similar uncomfortable experience with hotel guests.
  • Natalie: “He was being much nastier than [Jason’s guy]. I felt so uncomfortable, I just walked away.” (29:37–29:43)
• The crew debates if being an influencer in public spaces is selfish or just the new normal.

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6. Pop Culture: Grammys & Social Media Stars

32:27–39:46

• Grammy discussion: excitement about new, digital-native musicians like Addison Rae, Alex Warren, and Katzo.
  • David: “I have never felt so connected to a Grammys. I was excited to watch this one.” (37:01–37:33)
• The group marvels at how TikTokers and YouTubers now dominate the industry.
• Notable performance shout-outs: Alex Warren’s no-frills style, Olivia Dean as a generational talent, and Will.i.am’s “last Grammys with humans” comment about AI music.
  • Jason (Will.i.am’s quote): “I’m just excited this is going to be the last Grammys with humans… AI music is coming.” (39:23–39:46)

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7. Vertical Video and Microdramas: The Next Wave

43:40–46:59

• Discussion on Netflix’s upcoming “vertical” section—akin to TikTok, with micro-drama episodes (often Chinese imports) designed for short-form, addictive consumption.
  • David: “It’s all very low-budget, but I think the watch time is just fucking insane for those.” (46:54–46:58)
  • John admits he paid for a microdrama subscription out of curiosity after binge-watching a diamond-chopsticks storyline.
    • John: “I bought the membership because I saw that… I just wanted to see the ending.” (45:44–45:52)

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8. Podcasts on Netflix: Good Idea?

47:03–48:46

• The group debates Netflix’s new inclusion of podcasts, with David as the surprising supporter:
  • David: “I actually think it’s genius… so many times I turn on Netflix because I just want sound.” (47:10–47:18)
• Discussion of Pete Davidson’s new podcast, shot in his basement exclusively for Netflix, with Machine Gun Kelly as first guest.

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9. Comic Asides & Random Tangents

Scattered Throughout

• Wild detours:
  • David’s dermatologist butt-check story
  • Breasfeeding in public and “breastfeeding hats” (41:03–41:55)
    • David: “I wish people had like breastfeeding hats… Like, don’t look here, because my booby is out right now.” (41:28–41:43)
  • Jason’s musings on braces and friendly dogs
  • Netflix shorts possibly becoming “sexy microdramas”
  • The generational gap in internet culture

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “[John’s] evolving.” – Jason (01:09)
• “I love how being friends with me is affecting his way of life.” – David (04:13)
• “My shoes weren’t even on brand. My shoes were really fucking random.” – David (09:20)
• “I wasn’t ever bullied… it was just literally David.” – John (15:07–15:24)
• “Damn, John, you were getting it at 19.” – Natalie (17:15)
• “It feels like an investigation every time, dude.” – John (21:25)
• “Now, listen, John, we know this went down…” – Jason (22:41)
• “‘Can you just stop?’ That’s enough.” – Jason (27:39)
• “I have never felt so connected to a Grammys.” – David (37:01)
• “I’m just excited this is going to be the last Grammys with humans… AI music is coming.” – Will.i.am (via Jason, 39:23–39:46)
• “Microdramas… all of them… really Hallmark, very low budget, but so addicting.” – David (46:52–46:58)
• “I actually think [podcasts on Netflix] is genius.” – David (47:10)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• John’s Word Redemption & Social Mishaps: 00:00–04:31
• Rewards Points Obsession: 05:12–08:31
• High School Nostalgia: 09:36–16:21
• Virginity Story / Online Relationship: 17:06–24:52
• Influencer Etiquette Stories: 25:07–30:49
• Grammys & Pop Culture: 32:27–39:46
• Vertical Video Trends: 43:40–46:59
• Podcasts on Netflix: 47:03–48:46

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Conclusion

This VIEWS episode showcases the friend group’s signature chemistry, using John’s long-awaited virginity tale as a springboard for discussions on youth culture, influencer life, social awkwardness, and the ever-evolving world of internet fame. Between relentless roasts and genuine support, the episode captures the blend of nostalgia, honesty, and chaotic humor that fans love.

Transcript

[A]

Views. What's up, guys? Welcome back to Views. Today is the couple month anniversary. I actually don't know how many months it's been, but what happened a couple months ago where John didn't know how to pronounce a certain word? I don't want to say the word in case it'll do. You know what I'm talking about, John, Was it, was it that you couldn't say the word or was it that you couldn't spell it? I just want to remember.

[B]

No, pronounce. He wasn't pronouncing it properly.

[A]

What was it? John.

[B]

Or if you were saying it to him.

[A]

Because someone texted it to me and someone DM'd to me and they were like, you should do a reunion to see if like, John can do it. John can do it.

[B]

I forget the word though, so I don't remember exactly.

[A]

Oh, it's another word for scent.

[C]

Yeah, it's another word for perfume.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And does he have to read it?

[B]

Yeah, he was reading it incorrectly.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Reading it incorrectly.

[A]

Well, what's the word, John?

[C]

It's fragrance.

[A]

What is it?

[C]

Fragrance.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Very good, John. Very good.

[D]

Very good, John.

[B]

Not fragments.

[D]

I think John's getting smarter.

[A]

I do think John's getting smarter. Yeah. That's incredible.

[D]

Yeah. He's spending a lot of time with John and he's.

[A]

He's evolving.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Although I handed him. We were in a bookstore and I handed him a copy of Heated Rivalry and he didn't know what it was Justin got.

[A]

Justin. The fuck was that? John got busted again the other day for. John gets himself into trouble because he'll like, try to be really cheap.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But then someone will catch him. On being what? On being my friend. So like we like literally a couple days ago or a couple podcasts ago, we were talking about how in Disneyland he was like trying to like, anyway make money off this guy by having him cut in line.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And then the guy found out that he was my friend and then John felt really embarrassed, so Jon was just like, nevermind, you could just cut in line or whatever long. That, that was like the gist of the story.

[D]

Yeah, I remember.

[A]

So it happened again with him where he went to. He's a big fan of the Wallows.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And he went to go like you were walking by the place where they were having a show, right?

[C]

Yeah, I was driving by.

[A]

Driving. Yeah. And then you're like, oh my God, they're there right now.

[C]

Yeah. Because it just, you know, it spelled out outside.

[A]

Yes. So then you pulled over and you tried getting in for free, or what was it?

[C]

No, it wasn't trying for. For free. They were just like. I was just. Because I was hearing them play the song already outside. I'm like. I asked the security guy. I'm like, hey, how much can I give you just to get me in here? Because I just wanted. Because you could listen from it. From the outside. I just wanted to see him.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And it's like, you know, it's like their show's about to end.

[D]

Yeah. Is it a big venue?

[C]

No, it's a small one. It's.

[A]

So you're like. You were asking security guy, like, can I just slip you some money? Just. You let me in.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, so not for the full, like, ticket price. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because.

[C]

Because the tickets were sold out.

[A]

Right, right. And you thought maybe if you give him, like, 20, 30 bucks, you catch the end of it.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

And you just, like, coincidentally strolled up and saw that the walls were playing there.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, like.

[A]

Yeah. Did you drive up there for a reason for that, or.

[C]

No, no, no. I think I just.

[A]

Because that is actually one of your favorite bands.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And they were coincidentally playing as you drove by.

[C]

Yeah. It was insane. I was just like. I had dinner somewhere in West Hollywood.

[D]

And, you know they were in town.

[C]

No, I had no idea. I don't. I don't.

[A]

Okay, so it was definitely worth you pulling over, trying to talk to.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. And then what happened?

[C]

And it was like. And it was just like. What's crazy is that that concert venue is, like, really intimate. It's the one where Scott. Scott played at.

[A]

Oh, okay. Like the Wiltern?

[C]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

It's one of those, like, on Sunset.

[D]

The Roxy?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, the Roxy.

[D]

There.

[A]

Oh, yeah. See, that's very intimate.

[C]

Yeah. And I was just like, dude, this is. This guy. This is like a calling.

[D]

Yeah, it was a calling.

[C]

Like, everything was, like, lining up for me. I just got out of dinner, says John Wallows. It was like a movie.

[A]

And then what happened?

[C]

That's where the movie ended.

[A]

Wait, but say what Julia said. Then there were two people that worked there that came out.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And they recognized John. They're like, oh, you're David's friend John. And then they were like, are you coming in? And John's like, oh, I can't, because I don't have tickets. And then they were like, doesn't David know Dylan? Can't he just text him? And then John's like, fuck it. I'M leaving. John got embarrassed again. That's really funny.

[C]

It was the second time that he's.

[A]

Like, tried to do something. It's really funny.

[B]

It is really funny.

[A]

I love how, like, how being friends with me is affecting him, affecting his way of life, affecting his way of, like, trying to sneak into places. Really funny. I'm sorry for that, John.

[C]

It's fine.

[A]

Do you feel like you have to, like, you can't be your regular self when people find out?

[C]

Yeah, no shot. Like, who is this?

[A]

Wait, why? Why is that?

[D]

Huh?

[B]

Yeah. Wait, why? I feel like that's why people like and know you from David's. Cause you're just yourself.

[A]

Did you see Northwest the other day was on TikTok, and she was like. She, like, asked for, like, as a joke. She was, like, sending.

[B]

No. She was like, I want money.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Kim Kardashian was sitting off to the side, and she's like, no, no, no, North. We don't do that. But it was really funny. That's really funny. Cause it is a really normal thing to be on TikTok live and be like, send me gifts. And, like, good for North. She wants to earn her own money. Yeah. But Kev's like, no, no. Kev's like, that's not.

[D]

She'd kill.

[B]

You have enough.

[D]

What's something that you've gotten being David? That's been great. You get. You get the Tesla points. I know that. Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So when you buy a Tesla, right? You get Tesla points or something?

[A]

Yeah. Every time any buys a Tesla. Yes. They have to go through John.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because John gets, like, free merchandise. So he'll get like a. Like, if. I mean, how many people have ordered, like, Tesla's under you?

[C]

I think almost three people. So. But the thing is, last was all last year.

[B]

Almost three.

[C]

Well, yeah. Well, almost three was supposed to be Alex, but Alex felt bad, so he used someone else's code. Cause I'm like, alex, you know who to give it to.

[A]

You know?

[C]

Cause last year, I balled out. I gave everyone chargers. I gave everyone T shirts.

[A]

My favorite is, like, when I'm at. Like, when we're. Either we go to Menchies or amc.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Or something. I saw it on his face. We went to Menchie's the other day, and the guy goes, your rewards points. Do you have a rewards program with us? Yes. And I'm always like, no. Cause I just want to leave. And you could just see John going, going, dave wants to leave, but I need those points. Yeah, I need those. Even if he does. Do you have a Menchie's card? Yeah. Oh, you do?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because like, even if he didn't have one, I'd sign up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll create an account, which makes sense. Yeah. It's like. And like John's like. It was like, Dave's paying for eight ice creams right now.

[C]

The next one's gotta be free.

[A]

Yeah. Like, this would go a long way with boy. It's like, do you think you could wait another four minutes so I can fill out this information, do you think?

[D]

I think maybe you're missing out a little something in life a little bit.

[A]

With that, with rewards.

[D]

Like, I go to CVS sometimes and It'll be like $80. And then Naveen and I'll play a game and we'll. She'll get it down to like $14.

[A]

I just feel like putting like my number down. And I also don't like the time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But it's kind of fun at Erewhon this late. This lady.

[D]

That's a good one.

[A]

This. Yeah, it is a good one. This lady and I have had like when I used to go work out there at Equinox. Yeah. It was. Did you ever go with me? It was daily. Daily. She was like, today's the day, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, I don't think so.

[D]

Yeah, she wants you to sign up.

[A]

She's like, please just sign up so much. I'm like, I just. I don't. I told her. I was like, at this point, it's genuinely just a game me and you play and I won't let you have me sign up. I mean, I don't know why. And I knew Taylor had it when Taylor goes and she signs up, but there was something about it that I was just like. I was just like, I'm just not gonna do it. And it just became an ongoing thing when me and her would sign up and then other people would ask me to sign up. That would work there. And then I'd have to be like, no, no, no. Like if I'm signing up, it's with this woman. Because it's meaner of account have like.

[D]

A thing with it.

[A]

No.

[C]

Also if you.

[D]

If.

[C]

If. Cuz this on Views podcast. Yeah. If you have any friends and family discount you want to give me, just let me know.

[A]

Yeah, that'd be really nice.

[D]

What do you mean?

[C]

Like, so like for.

[B]

For discount codes?

[A]

Yeah, for like if someone's listening to this and their dad like owns like aostel. Or something. Is that still a store?

[B]

I don't know. I mean, it must. I'm sure. Yeah.

[A]

Aeropostel. Is that how you pronounce it?

[B]

Aeropostale. Aeropostale.

[D]

What a reference.

[A]

What a fuck. Yeah.

[D]

Is that even around anymore?

[A]

I don't know where I pulled that from. That was really cool.

[D]

Aeropostel was like Abercrombie and Fitch, right?

[B]

But it was like a little. It was like a less cool version of Abercrombie and Fitch. It was like the more affordable. Like you and I were wearing, like. Like you would wear Aeropostale and I would wear Abercrombie and fit.

[A]

I would not wear Aeropostale. Are you fucking nuts?

[D]

No.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Natalie, come on. Who the fuck you think you're talking to?

[B]

I was wondering what time you give Aeropostale.

[A]

What would I wear? I'd wear, like.

[D]

Or close a thing to you as a kid. As a high school.

[C]

Is it high school or middle school?

[A]

I don't know. My shoes weren't even on brand. My shoes were like.

[B]

Oh, you're saying you weren't.

[A]

You.

[B]

You couldn't afford Airpostel?

[A]

No. You think my mom walked into any store in the mall and was like, I'm getting you a shirt. Yeah, there's no. There's no way. I think we did, like. She did, like, Burlington Coat Factory when there was, like. When there was sales on the racks. And then, I mean, the, like. Oh, Plato's Closet. I don't know Plato's Closet. Or like. Or like Marshalls or like a Goodwill.

[B]

Salvation Army.

[A]

Goodwill's like. Or thrifting, like. Yeah, any kind of thrifting is, like, where I get my clothes from. I remember my shoes were like. I think they're more on brand now, but at the time, compared to the other kids, they were really fucking random. Do you remember airwalks? No. Yeah. Do you remember airwalks?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.

[A]

They're like skater shoes.

[D]

Skater shoe?

[A]

Yeah. When I was growing up, I think, like, skate Skater was like, the cool vibe.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I used to be a skater girl. I used to have my bangs. Used to start from the left side of my forehead and swoop down. No, past my eyes to the right side.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

And I used to wear, like, DC and Etnees shoes.

[A]

DC were so big.

[D]

So big.

[A]

And if you could pull them off, you're fucking cool. And obviously, skin tight jeans were, like, the biggest thing. And then Ryan Sheckler, which is like a hot skateboarder, was in, like, the locker of, like, Five different girls. That was really hot. Texting on your Sidekick was a big thing.

[D]

Did you decorate your locker?

[B]

No, I did.

[A]

I didn't have. What did you have in your locker?

[B]

I had like, a little whiteboard that people could like, write on. You know, like when my friends would stop by my locker.

[A]

That's such a powerful. I did disco ball.

[B]

I had a disco ball on the top of my locker.

[A]

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[C]

What do you mean? Like, it's.

[A]

I feel like I never actually. Huh.

[D]

Weren't you with him?

[A]

No.

[B]

John, like, really, like, kept to himself in school.

[A]

Like in school. I feel like I don't even. I don't think he even saw you. We never. We didn't have a class till college. Yeah. Yeah, but what were you like in high school?

[C]

What do you mean, John?

[A]

You just. What do you mean?

[D]

What type of person were you in high school?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Normal?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, but like, who would you hang out with. What would you do?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Your question.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'd hang out with, like, you know, like. Like, Waseem type vibes, you know, Wasim. Yeah.

[A]

You have to. Even though his name does do a lot of the heavy lifting. You need to describe what kind of a person Waseem was.

[C]

He's just, like, just, like, nerdy. Just, like. He just was a stick to her, you know, like.

[A]

Or another guy would be, like, a froz.

[C]

Yeah, Froz.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, really into tech.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Really into technology.

[A]

Very niche.

[C]

Very niche.

[A]

Waseem Fraz. Waseem once told me that his dad owned Walmart. And my dad would make, like, a big joke. I don't know if it was Waseem or if it was another kid, but my dad would always be like, that's the guy whose parents own Walmart. It was, like, an ongoing joke for so long. Afraz was this kid in our school, Sorry, Afraz, I want to get you in trouble. But he would jailbreak everybody's phone. Yeah. Or jailbreak everybody's ipod. Do you know what jailbreaking is, Shane?

[D]

No. What does that mean?

[A]

It's like when you, like, take. So he'd take your ipod touch. Completely hack the interface.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So it was, like, no longer really Apple, but you'd have all the apps that allow you to get free movies, free music, everything, which is fucking insane as a kid like that. Like, no kids paying $10 for a movie. Right. On Apple music.

[D]

Any movie.

[A]

On any movie. Even movies that are in theaters.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah. Like, may not be the best quality.

[A]

Yeah. You watch them. They're recorded on.

[D]

Oh, you got them off, like Limewire.

[A]

Yes, it was exactly like Limewire, but it was like its own versions of whatever was on the phone. I remember, like, I was watching movies recorded on, like, a camcorder, and I remember that was very, very normal for me. Like, instead of going to the movie theater, you'd record. You'd watch somebody recording a movie. Like, straight up pirated. Like, in the most, like, lowest form of it.

[D]

You used to be able to buy those in Times Square in New York City.

[A]

Really?

[D]

It would be a movie that was in the theater, and it would be on DVD right there. And you could buy it and watch.

[A]

It, and it was somebody recording it. Yeah.

[D]

Someone just joined in with a camcorder and record two hours.

[A]

Would you ever buy those?

[D]

No.

[A]

No. That's crazy. Wow.

[D]

I didn't.

[A]

So, okay, so what kind of. What. What else were you, like in high school?

[C]

In high school?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

John just Trying to figure out. Cuz I remembered once I. I was like junior year, I think I was lucky enough to have a car. One of the 95 Honda Civic.

[A]

Oh, you're like one of the first to have a car.

[C]

Yeah. So I just go home sometimes.

[A]

Well, what do you mean?

[C]

Like during school, during lunchtime. Sorry, I would just think of lunchtime. So like. But school, like school. I don't know, I'm. Because I'm not really hanging out with anyone if I'm going to class. To class?

[B]

Yeah. John, like, John would leave the class. Like he'd go straight from class to class, like sit there and wait early. Like he was that kid.

[A]

How do you know that he wouldn't.

[B]

Like mingle in the hallways?

[A]

Are you just like assuming that or do you actually know this?

[C]

No, that's what I would do.

[B]

No, I just know John.

[A]

That's a funny move.

[D]

Go and wait. The teacher's not even there yet.

[C]

Yeah, like I just.

[D]

Why wouldn't you mingle?

[B]

Like too. Anxiety. Like too, like too. Too much over stimulating.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Were you picked on?

[C]

No. Oh, that's what I said. Like, like that cliche thing of like being bullied. I like, I'm. I was never bullied in high school. I feel like I should have, but I know it's never did. It was just literally David, dude.

[A]

Bully.

[D]

Was the biggest too. It was David.

[A]

The best was like, like, if you were friends with someone that recently was like on crutches or they like rolled their ankle. That was like so good. In high school.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, why?

[B]

Because you could just like roll up to class with them late.

[A]

So. Yeah.

[B]

Like took her so long to get up the stairs. We're so sorry.

[A]

And you leave class early, you raise your hand, you go, I'm gonna help this person with their books. And you leave class like a full five minutes early. There's nobody in the halls and it's just you two.

[B]

Like, I forgot about that.

[A]

Yeah, that. That is the best.

[B]

We're hallways.

[A]

Alex was on crutches for like what, two years?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So Alex. Alex and I fucking ran that shit in the hallway five minutes before class.

[D]

You ever find out about a speaker that you didn't know about? 7th period in school, you're like, fuck, this day's so long. And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, yeah. So and so from the New England Patriots is talking for the last hour. You never had that?

[B]

No.

[D]

They never brought like school speakers in?

[A]

Fuck no.

[D]

Oh, you never had that?

[A]

No.

[D]

We would always have school speakers come in, and the entire school would go to the gym.

[A]

No, that's, like, a big city thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I grew up in a town like.

[A]

Yours, but you grew up, like, east coast, like, Boston. No.

[D]

Yeah, but we weren't in the city of Boston. We were in a suburb. You never had a. They never brought a speaker into.

[A]

We've had, like. Like, the firefighters really, like, they were teaching foods, like, don't do this to burn your food. The only thing we had is, like, BMXer. Like, one BMXer would come, and there'd be, like, one ramp, and he'd have, like, pegs on his bike, and he'd, like, spin around. Like, I feel like that's like. That was, like, a middle school thing other than that. And then maybe we'd have, like, somebody that is really good with slinkies, but, like, it was all very, like, random like that, right?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, nobody that I would remember that wasn't, like, a part of, like, local.

[D]

When did you lose your virginity?

[B]

Oh, good question.

[C]

18. 19.

[A]

19. Who did you lose it to?

[B]

19? Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Damn, John, you were getting it at 19.

[A]

Natalie, you come off so mean.

[B]

Well, I knew coming from a girl, that is so.

[D]

That's so cutting.

[A]

Damn, John. That's when you got laid there.

[B]

I knew John at 19. I mean, he wouldn't leave us out. So how the did you find somebody?

[A]

Were they related to you? All right, no, Come on, John, it. Where did it happen, huh? It was your girlfriend at the time. Yeah.

[B]

Why are you, like, being sus about it?

[A]

Why are you being so weird? Dude, I'm not being weird about.

[C]

I just don't like about my.

[A]

Like, where were you? Were you on island, you weirdo? Yeah. Where did you lose your virginity?

[D]

Names on Epstein's list.

[A]

What's going on that explains so much. He's like. Oh, he got brainwashed when he was there, John, in the emails. Meet me here. Where? Here.

[D]

Where wasim can hack your. Or froz frozen.

[A]

Hack your ipod. Fraz is on FC's island to hacking iPhones. All right, where was it, John?

[C]

South Carolina.

[A]

Oh, damn.

[D]

God.

[A]

God damn. You gotta go far for it.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Okay, hold on. Time out. Wait, wait, wait.

[C]

I want to open up this conversation.

[A]

Wait. Where did you meet the girl? This is so interesting.

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay. Where did you meet her?

[C]

It was Angie.

[B]

We know that.

[A]

This is a podcast, bro. I know who she is. We're telling a story, okay? John's like, why are you asking me? You already know.

[D]

You're Holding a microphone for a reason.

[A]

Okay, where did you meet her?

[C]

Instagram.

[A]

Remember?

[C]

It was like, one of the earliest DMs ever.

[B]

What, like, you DM her?

[D]

She DM'd you come me in South Carolina. Instagram was trying it out.

[A]

Okay, timeout. So, wait, she DM'd you? You DM'd her?

[C]

DMDR.

[A]

Okay. Where did you find her on Instagram?

[C]

I don't know. Online, dude.

[A]

But, like, it was an Explore page. What was it?

[C]

It was like an Explorer page, and you fuck.

[A]

And she was already living in South Carolina or.

[C]

No, no, she was here. She was visiting here, I think, at some point, Chicago.

[A]

Okay, and then you DM her.

[C]

I don't like talking about my fucking sexual relationships with you guys. It's like, it's the worst when it comes to me, man. Like, I understand.

[B]

No one's asking, like, what holds your.

[C]

Penis in or just do that. Dude, we're just saying do that. I'm just a close person when it comes to that thing.

[A]

Okay, fair enough.

[C]

It's just like, I hate you. You're gonna have to pull teeth. It's not gonna be a good podcast.

[D]

Dude, how'd you end up in South Carolina? That's all I want to know.

[A]

I don't need to know any of the details. Can you just explain to me you saw a pretty girl. Yeah. Then you DM'd her.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And then you're like, I'm flying out to South Carolina.

[C]

No, no, no. Just talk for a while.

[A]

Right. Okay. I do remember this.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And then you're like, come. And she was like, come meet me.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Okay, I'm. This is. Okay, this is coming back. Okay, I remember.

[B]

We all thought it was not real.

[A]

Right? We thought.

[C]

Yeah, we all thought it was.

[B]

Yeah. And we thought that he was being catfished.

[A]

This is a really interesting story. Timeout.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wait, wait. This is so interesting.

[B]

It's so interesting.

[A]

Okay, doesn't have to get sexual. Just explain this. What is this? So how long were you talking to her for?

[C]

Like, all of, like, senior year of high school.

[A]

Okay, so you talked to her for a full. You talked to her for a full year before you met her?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Did you guys, like, ever FaceTime later on Instagram?

[A]

You met her on a video game?

[B]

Yeah, I thought it was a video game.

[A]

Oh, dude.

[C]

You guys made fun of me that you. You thought I met her in a video game? And I said. And I said, no, not really. And. But I just went along with it because, like, nothing changes your mind.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

What's David has.

[C]

Think of high school, not college.

[A]

Okay, okay, high school, but I'm trying to think. Like, you could Instagram DM people in high school.

[D]

Did you fly to South Carolina to meet her?

[C]

Yeah, I did ask my mom, which was crazy.

[A]

How old were you? 17, 18, 19. You asked your mom, and your mom was like, you're meeting this person, and then this girl that you were talking to picked you up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's all right. And had you.

[A]

Had you guys stop talking. Like, this is like an investigation.

[C]

It feels like an investigation every time, dude. Every time.

[B]

Every time what?

[C]

Every time.

[B]

The first time I've ever heard this story, dude.

[C]

So the story, in parts, multiple times throughout the years.

[A]

Okay, you want us to piece it together from memory?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Honestly, just tell us, have you met this girl? This is so interesting. What's the big deal?

[B]

Wait, no, sorry. Did you guys, like, FaceTime or, like, have any sort of, like, video? Like, were you confirmed that she was not a catfish? Like, how did that go down?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I think Snapchat was a thing.

[B]

Yeah, Snap was a thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So you would see her face.

[C]

Yeah, of course.

[D]

And so you asked your mom, can I go to South Carolina and see this girl?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You got a ticket. You went on a plane?

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Your friend dropped you at the airport.

[C]

Atlanta.

[D]

You grabbed condoms when you got there?

[A]

Excuse me? You went to Atlanta?

[C]

No, sorry. No, no, it was. It was. It was Greenville.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

South Carolina.

[A]

Oh, where Mr. Beast is from?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[C]

I know Jimmy was there, too.

[A]

Wait, Greenville's not.

[D]

This man is trying to lose his virginity.

[A]

Is there an airport there, too?

[B]

No, I think you're thinking of Asheville. Greenville's in South Carolina. No.

[C]

Yeah, Greenville, South Carolina.

[B]

Yeah. Jimmy's in North Carolina.

[D]

This is like an interrogation.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[D]

You want a cup of water?

[B]

It's, like, so weird.

[A]

Do you want water? A cigarette?

[D]

Now, listen, John, we know this went down. We can do this, you know, the easy way or the hard way.

[C]

I know, I know. I know.

[A]

You'd be a good cop.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I'll be good cop. I'll be good cop.

[D]

I'll be bad cop. Go.

[A]

Listen, John, it's people. People go to North Carolina, South Carolina. People go all over the world to meet people, and that's very, very normal. I remember I was in a relationship for a while. I didn't meet people. Tell us, what in South Carolina.

[D]

Was. Was Ma there or not?

[C]

Was not there?

[B]

Where was the frs?

[D]

Where was fr. And so you made love and Then that was it. Yeah.

[B]

You went there. You spent like the weekend or.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

How long did you last weekend?

[C]

A minute maybe. Max, you know, how did it.

[B]

Did you know, like when you were going there, like, okay, I'm going to probably have sex for the first time. Like was that like.

[C]

No.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

No.

[B]

Or did it happen unexpectedly once you got there?

[A]

No.

[B]

Because you guys hadn't even kissed yet. Right. This is the first time we see each other in person.

[A]

When did you kiss her? Right at the airport.

[C]

I don't know. I felt like she had work and I just remembered like my first time being there. We were at this house. I think it was her friend's house. She did.

[A]

Wow. Stay in a hotel because she had work. Okay, sorry, I'm derailing.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

You didn't even stay at her parents house or her house. You sneaky sneaky at the friend's house.

[A]

Oh, did her parents know you were.

[C]

There at this point? No.

[D]

Whoa.

[B]

Did the. So the friend's house you were staying at, did those parents like. Or were you just a random man.

[C]

That was staying random man staying at.

[B]

Her and they were just fine with it?

[C]

They're like, it was her best friend's house.

[D]

Have Taylor get this guy a Dr. Pepper. Yeah, but he's here for a while.

[B]

If my best friend just brought a guy over to stay at my home for the weekend.

[A]

Wait, that's crazy. You stayed at her best friend's place?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Damn. This guy was desperate for some.

[A]

Wait, why are you being so mean?

[C]

Yeah, now what the fuck?

[D]

I don't want to be.

[B]

She doesn't mean to be, but I'm just being funny.

[D]

She's just being funny. But she does come off as.

[A]

Cause she's a girl.

[D]

Because she's a girl.

[A]

Yeah. Attacking John. Yeah. It's so funny because you just like finally got this story out of him and you just turned him in. You go, damn, this guy's a desperate loser. It's been so hard to get this out of him. And you're just like, you want a soda?

[D]

I had to go to a restaurant, make a video for in kind. So I was like, okay. I go, I love it. It's so fun. We're going to restaurant and Naveen's like, you got to take the light out. You got to take the light out. And I'm like, I don't want to take the light out in here. Like, I don't want to be the guy filming a video with a big light.

[A]

Oh, you went to. You. Oh, you had to make A video for the restaurant?

[D]

Yeah. So I go into the restaurant and I'm like, they're so nice. And I'm like, I'm gonna make a video. And they were like, oh, amazing. We'll bring you some extra stuff. Everything's going so well. We got this big light, and, like, there's no one behind us, so the light is on. It's just a phone light, you know, it's not like a big.

[A]

Oh, okay, okay.

[D]

But I mean, do you find that annoying if you see somebody with a light in a restaurant?

[B]

I don't, personally, because I know, like, I get it.

[D]

Right. Do you find it annoying?

[B]

But I know a lot of people do.

[D]

A lot of people do. And in la, it's pretty common.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Right.

[A]

It's different. Are you doing, like, a quick flash photo?

[D]

No, we're doing, like, it's up to you.

[A]

Like a 30 minute.

[D]

No, not a 30 minute. We're doing, like, it's on for, like, you know, three or four minutes.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's pretty crazy. That's pretty. A lot. That's a lot.

[D]

That's a lot.

[C]

That's a lot.

[A]

I mean, I.

[C]

Sure.

[D]

Okay, fine.

[A]

Obviously, yeah. If I was there.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I'd probably kill myself on the spot. No, no, but, like. But, like, I would genuinely like it. It sent me into big panic.

[D]

You'd be pissed you're not being filmed.

[B]

Well, he would just be uncomfortable.

[A]

If you turn on the flash, I'd be sweating. And then if it goes any longer than 10 seconds, I'd be like, jay, please. Oh.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

If you were there with me, I would never turn.

[A]

Okay. I would have never.

[D]

If you were there, I'd have been like.

[A]

I have been with. I have been with people at dinner where, like.

[D]

Yeah. And what do you say?

[A]

Nothing. Because no one's ever done what he just did. No one's ever done, like, three.

[B]

I was gonna say, what's your turn? But I told the guy I was.

[D]

Like, we're gonna shoot. He's like, yeah, yeah, do whatever you want. And I was like, all right.

[A]

It's just tough because a lot of people, like, it's just tough being an influencer. And, like, I know putting that onto other people is, like, weird.

[D]

Yeah. There's no one behind us.

[A]

No, no, I get that we're on a wall.

[B]

Yeah. But it's just like the.

[D]

It's like, we're not. Like, you're shooting anybody.

[B]

Your booth is.

[A]

And.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Whatnot.

[B]

Your booth is, like, glowing, you know, in the wild.

[A]

You Know how icky that is?

[D]

I know, it's gross.

[A]

It's like.

[D]

It's like, I get my shot.

[A]

No, I get it. Yeah, but why don't you, like, take it outside?

[D]

Because we wanted to show all the food and.

[A]

Right, okay.

[D]

And, like, make it, like, cool. So anyways, this guy comes over. He just goes, can you just stop? Can you just stop like that? And I go, oh, I'm so sorry. I go. And I was like. I was sincere. I was like, I'm so sorry. We were just trying to get this one shot. I'm so sorry. We'll turn it off. He's like, yeah, yeah, turn it off. And I said, I. I don't know where you came from. I didn't know it was bothering you. And he goes, it was bothering me. Can you just stop?

[C]

Damn.

[D]

Just stop, please. That's enough. That's enough. Like that. And I was like, okay. Was it a.

[A]

Did you sit in silence for the rest of the dinner?

[C]

Was it a nice restaurant?

[D]

Yeah, it was like a fun restaurant.

[C]

Fun or nice?

[D]

No, fun. Fun. It wasn't like. It wasn't like. It wasn't like, snooty at all.

[A]

Okay. Okay, Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're definitely in the wrong, but, like, also that I shouldn't have come at you like that.

[D]

All he could have said was, hey, can you just turn the light down? And I'd be like, oh, yeah, of course.

[A]

Were there other people in front of you? Was the restaurant full?

[D]

No, not at all. No.

[B]

This has happened to me before. Something similar.

[A]

What?

[D]

What happened?

[B]

I was.

[D]

I was shooting, and I also cleared it with them.

[A]

No, no, I know, I know.

[D]

You know, I was like, I'm going to shoot this thing really quick. And they're. Okay, great.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And they brought over, like, extra food. They were like, yeah, let's do it. And then I talked to the maitre d, and I was like, I'm really sorry. He's like, I don't worry about it.

[B]

There was this hotel. There's a hotel in West Hollywood where we had. We had a dobriks pop up there for a little bit.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I wanted to shoot, like, some. They had a really pretty bar area. And I wanted to shoot some, like, Ella Day, content with, like, some new clothes that we were dropping or whatever. And they're like, yeah, of course. Come by, whatever. We'd love it. Come in the morning time. Cause nobody's there. It's the bar. Right. But there was this couple, this, like, older couple, probably like 50, 60 that was sitting at the bar. And I was like, over at the corner, like, the Far edge with my sister. Cause just like, us, like, two girls just snapping some pictures, not even doing flash or anything crazy. But we were there for, like, 15, 20 minutes. And this guy was just like, seriously, do you think you got the shot yet? He's not even in it. Like, he's at the other side of the bar with his wife and I, and it's like 10 o' clock in the morning. And I was like. I was like, oh, is like, this okay? Like, are we bothering you or whatever? And he was like, yeah, doll, you think you got the photo? Like, just giving me so much. He was being much nastier than this.

[D]

Sure.

[B]

And then I felt so uncomfortable, obviously, that I just, like, walk. Walked away and left and, like, didn't get anything.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Never go back to the restaurant again.

[B]

No. It was so embarrassing.

[A]

I probably wouldn't even go back to that part of town.

[D]

And, like.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it was just. It's just funny. Like, he was on such a high horse because he was like. Like, I'm just this idiot girl taking photos. Even though, like, the hotel had invited me to do this thing. You know, whatever.

[A]

Does anything like that happen to me that you remember of, like, when I was, like, filming or doing something? Like, I'm sure. I'm sure it's had to have happened, but just like.

[D]

Sure. When I knocked down the.

[A]

Oh, at the movie theater.

[B]

The movie theater.

[D]

I knocked down the railings. He got so mad.

[A]

Yeah. That made it in the vlog, right?

[D]

I don't think so.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

Maybe it did.

[A]

John was like. Jason was like, turn the camera on. And he, like, fell over a bunch of, like, ropes. Ropes. Red velvet ropes. And made a big noise. That was almost fine because the way you did it, it's like, if. If, like, Zane did it, I would have lost my shit. But you're so old. Well, there's no way anybody thinks that that's, like, a guy being a douchebag. Everyone was like. Everyone was like, is he fucking okay, so, like, you got away with it, which is really funny.

[B]

That's funny. I can't recall anything.

[A]

Jay, you're gonna be 90 soon.

[D]

I know.

[A]

And, like, soon what?

[B]

Well, he still is the other half of his life before he gets to 90.

[A]

No, I know. I'm just saying. But you're gonna be, like, really visibly old soon. Yeah. Where it'll actually be in your benefit.

[D]

I used to make this joke all the time, that saying like when I'm 80, it'll be so good. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Cause people will be. Everyone will be on your side. Like people instead, like, people will shoot you from across the way and they'll be like, look how cute this guy is recording his food. Do you know what I mean?

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

That is really funny right now.

[A]

You're like in this really weird spot. It's very awkward and like, you shouldn't be influenced.

[D]

Intervene with me.

[A]

Yeah, but when you're. Yeah. You have no mean. Yeah, but when you're like 80 or 90, you're gonna fucking rake it in.

[D]

I can't wait. I hope I live that long.

[A]

Aww. You should try aging yourself right now. Just getting up.

[D]

I thought about doing old man prosthetic here.

[A]

That's really funny.

[D]

Did I hear this right?

[A]

Tesla's taking all Model X's down?

[D]

No, you won't be able to drive a Tesla in like three years because.

[A]

They'Re all gonna be themselves.

[D]

They'll all be self driving.

[B]

Oh, did you hear that?

[A]

That just feels like a.

[B]

Or like they want to take down like Waymo or something.

[D]

No, just like when you buy a Tesla, you won't be able to drive it.

[B]

Oh, like steering wheel.

[D]

There won't be a steering wheel.

[A]

Yeah, you know they're taking down the Model X. Oh, they are? Yeah.

[D]

Why?

[A]

And the Model S or the Model S, you can't buy it anymore.

[B]

Yeah, it's just a Model three.

[C]

Three and Y.

[D]

Three and Y. That's it.

[C]

Cybertruck.

[A]

They're discontinuing it. Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

That could also mean that they're coming out maybe a new X in like two, three years when it's more convenient for them, but.

[D]

Right. Did you watch the Grammys? You didn't watch them?

[B]

No.

[D]

Really?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Dude, Natalie ignored me all day.

[B]

Yeah, I did. Like all weekend. I kind of ignored it.

[A]

Why do you do that? You're so mean. It's like actually feels mean.

[D]

Read the text.

[B]

It's not mean. It's because you just don't leave me.

[A]

Alone because I want to hang out and go out, but you do it in such a mean way.

[B]

No, because if I don't just literally point blank stop and ignore you and stop responding, you will just. You will just keep calling and keep texting. So I just.

[A]

And Alex are always down to make plans. Especially like, it's like John and Alex.

[B]

Your responsibility in comparison to me. I'm sorry.

[A]

What are you doing on the weekend?

[D]

Never calls me.

[A]

Shut up, Jay. What? What? What are you Doing on the weekend?

[B]

Preparing for the week. Honestly, that's what I was doing.

[A]

No, you were with your friend Sammy Pepper.

[B]

I did go to Malibu this weekend.

[D]

The worst that Sammy Pepper.

[A]

Oh, my God, dude. Oh, my God. Okay, let me tell you the story. Guess what? Had to go to the dermatologist again. Checking the asshole. Whatever. Who cares?

[D]

Oh, you got a tickle in your booty.

[A]

No, the cyst.

[D]

Oh, the cyst.

[A]

I like to keep.

[B]

Ugh, don't say that word.

[D]

Your pylonial cyst.

[A]

Sorry, it just acted up. It's all good now.

[D]

I told you to shave it, man.

[A]

I think I overreact anyway. I obviously overreact. Went to the dermatologist once again. There was a young girl in there.

[D]

Yeah. Checking your.

[A]

About 21.

[B]

Like, the physician's assistant, where they say, you know, whatever.

[A]

They're gonna be there. And then he asked me in front of her. He's like, hey, do you mind if she's in here? And I'm like, I don't mind. Even though I mind tremendously. That's all I'm thinking about. I have an hour drive there, so it's like. All I'm thinking about is like, please just have. I just want the guy in here. Just me and the guy.

[C]

Please, please.

[A]

And then I finally get there, and she comes in. I'm like, I can't fucking. I can't take my pants off in front of this. Anyway, so.

[D]

So you say yes, huh? You go, sure, yeah.

[A]

I go, yes.

[D]

Why?

[A]

I go, yeah, I don't mind.

[C]

And then I go.

[A]

And then I make up something. I was like, just in Australia got really sunburnt. Want to make sure I don't have cancer. So whatever. He's like, okay, take your. Take your shirt off. Whatever. So I'm taking my shirt off, which I'm already uncomfortable, but, like, fuck, I should have made up something else.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So, like, I would take my clothes off.

[B]

So stupid.

[A]

So he could check to see if I've gotten, like, sun, cancer, spots. And he's like, you're all good. And he prescribed me something for, like, $300 to, like, put on my burns.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So just completely pivoted. And then I called Natalie, and I was like, natalie, you never had your butt checked? No, never.

[D]

David, why don't you say to them, I mind. Yes.

[B]

Or just, like, let them leave. And then be like, hey, can I talk to just the doctor? Can the doctor just come back in here?

[A]

And then I had. And then I called Natalie, and I was like, hey, so Like, I talked to the guy going in there for my cyst, whatever, blah, blah. I gave her the full story and then I didn't know I was on speaker.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

And her friend Sammy goes, what is he talking about? And Natalie goes, he's a cyst. And his ass. And her friend goes, ew. And I go, sammy, what the fuck? And she's like, I'm so sorry. She, like, totally didn't know. It was like the little point I was trying to get across to Natalie happened.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So you drove an hour and didn't get it checked?

[A]

Yeah, but I got a new guy. I figured it out. Yeah. So I'm good now. But, yeah. So that's what Natalie was doing all week. Just hanging out with Sammy, completely ignoring me. I really wanted to go out. And Natalie's only going out, buddy, unfortunately. Only it's John. Like, John's not like the going out type.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, what is he gonna do? He's not gonna, like, drink with me.

[C]

No.

[A]

And then like, Alex and I, it's like, that doesn't make sense. Ilya refuses to go out. Zayn, like, doesn't really go out that much. Like, it's Natalie. Natalie's the one.

[D]

Yeah. So you had Grammy parties to go to and you didn't go?

[A]

No, no, I didn't really have anywhere to go. I was just like. I was just like, the city's on fire, let's go. And. Yeah, I don't even think there. I went out Friday and Saturday, like the nights before the Grammys. I think I went to like four different places on Saturday. Everything was just like, so packed. I was. I went inside for, like five minutes to one place and I was like, I gotta get the out of here. And then I went into another place. Like, I don't know, 10 minutes was like, I gotta leave. It was just like. It was. There was a lot of people out there. Out. Really? A lot of people out. Yeah. Yeah. But other than that.

[D]

Did you watch the Grammys?

[A]

No doubt. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. So good. Alex Warren was crazy.

[A]

I think they should have kept the artist. The. The new artist till the end.

[D]

No, you can't do that.

[C]

Yeah. Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I think. I think you can't do that normally, but I think those guys have the most pull. Like, I think most people are watching for Addison, Alex Warren, Cat's Eye, Lola Somber. I think more.

[D]

I think Maria to them.

[A]

Yes. But I think everyone's tuning in for those people.

[D]

Oh, yeah, the kids are. Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. I just. Okay. Maybe Maybe I'm like. But I have never felt so connected to a Grammys.

[D]

It was crazy.

[A]

Like, I was excited. I was excited to watch this one. Yeah. Because these. These. These people, like, like, grew up on the same platforms.

[D]

They were both in the hype house.

[A]

That's so crazy.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

No, that is crazy. This is the.

[A]

Alex crushed it.

[D]

What? I really thought Alex was. He, like, just went out there, and there was no frills about it. He just. It was just him and his voice, and then he was flying in the air. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I can't believe you didn't watch it.

[B]

I can't believe I didn't watch it either. It's like, I'm so. Like, an award show girl.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like the first one I probably haven't watched in, like, 20 years.

[A]

Olivia Dean, though, like, no questions asked number one.

[D]

You like her? That's who Charlie likes.

[A]

Yeah, she's. She's generational.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I thought that Lola Young was better.

[A]

Than Lola Young's incredible. Somber. No, they're all incredible. Little Young didn't knock my socks off when I was watching. I was like, what the.

[D]

But that's the first time I ever even heard.

[A]

I was like, this is insane. But Olivia Dean is like, I want to go sit down somewhere and watch her sing.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Like, it's just like. Wait, what? You should go.

[D]

I'm just like, go to her concert.

[A]

Oh, no. I mean, like. Like, it's like, giving. Like, she just gives, like, such jazz bar. Like, fun performance.

[D]

Yeah, I'm not gonna go.

[A]

Like, but I'd, like. No, but, like, I'm comparing it. Like, if I was like, if I want to go for drinks.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

In the most magical place I can. I can conjure up in my head.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It'd be Olivia Dean with, like, a cigarette and, like, five beers. A bucket of beers.

[D]

Smalls Jazz Club, New York City.

[A]

I think that'd be so cool. No, I think they all crushed it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then why do you have any other gripes with. With the.

[D]

I just love. I just love the Grammys because the interviews are so interesting before. Like, actors get very, like, staged answers to stuff. But, like, Will I am was fucking just going off.

[A]

What was he saying? Really?

[C]

He's just like.

[D]

And here he is, Will I am.

[A]

From Black Eyed Peas.

[D]

And he's like. And like, what are you. What are you excited about, Ton? And he goes. He goes, well, I'm just excited this is going to be the last Grammys with humans. He's like, everyone's like, okay, and what do you mean by that? And he's like. He's like, well, AI music is coming. And, you know, I wanted to come down here to see humans for the last time before AI takes over.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

It was like. It was. It was awesome. Then like, Chaka Khan was up there. And it's like when you get like a Sabrina Carpenter, she'll give you a normal answer, like. Like, I'm so happy to be here, Very grateful, you know. But then when you get the older stars, the ones that have been famous for like 40 years, they're just like, on another planet. It's so great.

[A]

That's really funny.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

The Grammys too, is like. I just think, like you're saying, like, artists versus, like, actors.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Or musicians. Sorry. I feel like musicians. The, like the style on the carpet too. Like the Grammys carpet is always really interesting. Like, people just like Chocolate Roan with the nipple ring dress. And like, you know.

[D]

Who was the guy in the mask with?

[B]

Oh, dj.

[A]

I just.

[B]

They created a song together this year.

[A]

I just think Grammys, like, I don't know. I'm just like so much. I'm ten times more impressed by musicians than I am actors.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I like fangirl over actors more, but I'm impressed by musicians more, if that makes sense.

[D]

Actors are doing more with less.

[A]

Actors are doing less. You were saying? What does that mean?

[D]

Well, I think actors do more with less, whereas a musician can do. They can do anything. They have so much behind them. They have drums, they have production, they have dance. But an actor just has a part.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they've got to be that part. And that's it.

[A]

I agree.

[D]

What do you think of breastfeeding in public?

[A]

What?

[D]

What do you think of breastfeeding in public?

[A]

Are you sure it'd be allowed?

[D]

I mean, I know it should be allowed and I don't have a problem with it, but it's just like I'm always.

[A]

I wish, like, I'm always like, lock my eyes too long 100%.

[D]

You know, you're like. You're like.

[A]

Like, obviously should be loud. It's like the most like, natural thing.

[D]

And when I say too long for.

[A]

A second, I wish people had like breastfeeding hats.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like some sort of like scarf over like something like a blanket.

[A]

No, no, I'm saying, like even just a hat on their head that's like that. It's like, don't look here because you'll probably double take. Cause my. My booby is out right Now.

[B]

Oh, that's good. Yeah, let's draw. Draw less attention to ourselves. Let's put a big hat.

[A]

Well, no, but if I saw. If I saw, like, a red breastfeeding hat, I'd be like, that's a breastfeeding hat. Her tit's probably out. I'm not looking. Do you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, I think more people would look.

[A]

But, like, sometimes when you walk around in New York and you're on a park bench and you see. You see a booby, out you go. That was. Was that a. Oh, my God. That was a boob. I don't know.

[B]

No, I just think it's like. No, I think it's like a beacon for perverts to just stare at a woman breastfeeding.

[D]

Yeah, he wants to get braces. I was like, no, you can't get braces.

[B]

Nadine wants braces.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

She has. She has, like. Her tooth is, like, a little crooked here. So she's supposed to wear this thing at night. She doesn't wear it.

[A]

Your wife, who already looks 20, 30 years younger than you, wants to get braces. That's fucking Charlie's school. Wild. Hey, is she being serious?

[D]

I mean, I feel like if I wasn't around, she would do it just for six months.

[B]

Or her teeth would be like Invisalign.

[D]

Yeah, maybe she could do Invisalign.

[B]

Yeah, she should just do Invisalign.

[D]

No, but I mean, aren't braces better?

[B]

It's like a faster, I think. Yeah, yeah, no, Invisalign's great if you actually. You have to wear it every day, all day, you know.

[D]

No, these are, like, permanent.

[B]

No, I know, I know. That's why it's better.

[D]

That's what. Invisalign. Invisalign. You take off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was really funny. Hey, you ever. You ever go and you see a dog and you go, is he friendly? And the person goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You're like, what? Does that happen to you?

[D]

Yeah, happened to me the other day.

[A]

What'd you do?

[D]

I was like, well, wait a minute.

[C]

It's really funny.

[D]

Let's talk a little bit.

[B]

What do you mean, really funny?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Sort of.

[B]

Am I missing something?

[D]

I mean, I think so.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

What?

[A]

That's really funny.

[D]

Really funny.

[B]

Like, will it bite me or not?

[D]

Do you see Netflix is going vertical?

[A]

What does that even mean?

[B]

Yeah, what does that mean?

[D]

Means you'll be able to go on Netflix. Just, like, tick the way it'll work. Just like TikTok. There'll be a vertical section, just like YouTube shorts.

[A]

What are you talking? Like, and it's shot on, like, high definition.

[D]

Yeah. Maybe it'll be clipped down. Maybe. Maybe it'll be clips of their shows or maybe it'll be its own. You know, like, that's a big thing now. Vertical series are big.

[A]

Oh, like the Chinese. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, like the Chinese.

[A]

Yeah, like, you know how, like, what is it?

[C]

What is it?

[D]

They're like, vertical dramas are really big in China and they made their way here.

[B]

Really.

[D]

It's a huge industry and a lot.

[A]

Of actors in LA are going to do these. Yeah, I know Actors, too. They're a lot of actors that can make a lot of money.

[D]

A lot of. Kim Kardashian's doing a vertical series. What? Yeah, it's like the episodes are, like, you know, one minute long.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And what is it like? What's the show?

[D]

I'm not sure what her specific series.

[A]

Are they all, like. Are they all. They're all, like, really addictive, right? Yes, but they're all. But they're not actually good.

[D]

The ones that have, like.

[A]

Are they supposed to be cheesy?

[D]

Yeah, so far they've been really cheesy, but I'm sure they'll get better. But, like, a lot of actors in la, they don't have, like, work right now.

[A]

Wait, correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll be like. It'll be like Natalie bent over in one, and then me behind her, and I'll be like. And she'll be like, are you rock hard right now?

[D]

I'm gonna have to correct you.

[A]

No, no, hold on. And then the story starts from there. Am I right?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

I don't know if it's pornos.

[C]

Yes, I've signed up for one. But instead of, like, English, it's like, Chinese.

[A]

No, no. What are you talking about? No, they start. The first second of them is always something super, super hooky. Super sexy.

[D]

I see.

[A]

And sexual. So it'll be like a girl being like. But the moan will have nothing to do with what's going on.

[D]

Oh, that's funny.

[A]

But it'll, like, hook you. Is she getting fucked right now? That's what you. And then it's not that at all. Yeah, I see. Okay. Are they all like that?

[D]

I don't know. I haven't seen too many of them, but.

[A]

Because they're all like. I've seen another one that's like. That's like you. If. If my son marries you, you can't have all the money.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Like, one of those. And then you're like, fuck, I got to watch this. I watched one for, like, eight minutes, dude.

[C]

I bought the membership because I saw that.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. I just wanted to see the ending because I was like. I was so hooked. I was like, I have to do.

[A]

I woke up at, like, 9:00am that's crazy.

[C]

I. Dude, I know. I know.

[A]

Out of all people, they got you.

[C]

I know, bro, but it was like a re. It was like one of my, like, really. I don't know.

[D]

What was it?

[A]

Yeah, what was the premise of your. Mine was, like, called micro dramas.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Mine was pretty much this Chinese guy, and his whole life he didn't know that he was rich because he had these, like, expensive, like, spoons and everything. And so his friend comes over and he's eating like, you're so poor. But then they picked up the chopsticks and, like, wait, this is diamond chopsticks.

[A]

That got me. It's exactly how they are. Like, all of them, dude. Yeah. Like. Like, another one is, like, the guy is trying to marry this woman who, like, the parents don't want her to marry him because they think he's broke, but really, he's the CEO of the company that is actually gonna buy the parent company.

[C]

Love that plot.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I love that all. It's all. It's really crazy. Yes. They are really addicting, but they're very, like, Hallmark.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Budget's very low.

[A]

The budget's very low, but I think the watch time is just fucking insane for those.

[C]

It's crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, that's interesting. So Netflix maybe is going to go into that.

[D]

Well, they're doing vertical. I don't know if they're doing micro dramas, but. Yeah, but I hate that. I don't like when I open Netflix now and it's podcasts.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

I actually think it's genius. And I'm a podcast hater. I'm your number one podcast hater.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But, like, I think. Think putting podcasts on Netflix is so good.

[D]

Why?

[A]

Because, like, just in the way. It's not in the way. Because, like, so many times I turn on Netflix because I just want sound. Yeah. And, like, imagine if I. Imagine if I was, like, a person that, like, cooking and I like my little TV in my kitchen in the back of my living room. Like, the. It's so easy to turn on a podcast over a movie, in my opinion.

[C]

Very easy. Because, like, it's.

[D]

It is actually the background noise.

[A]

Yeah. It's like the best type of background noise.

[D]

Maybe they know that.

[A]

I'm sure they didn't.

[D]

Hey, Pete Davidson has a new podcast on YouTube.

[A]

Netflix. I'll listen to this. What?

[D]

Oh, my God. It's great.

[A]

Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Who does he have by himself?

[D]

I can't tell if it's great because it's who his first guest is, but his first guest is his best friend, Machine Gun Kelly. But they're, like, actually friends, and it's fascinating.

[A]

Wait, they're actually best friends.

[D]

They're, like, actually buddies who did drugs together and did fucked up shit together.

[A]

Like from when they were younger.

[D]

Yeah, I guess. Maybe they were on a movie together. Maybe like five, six years ago or whatever. Ten years ago. I'm not sure. So they just. They're just talking like. They're talking like you're talking to John. Like, it's so fucking good. And it's shot really interesting.

[A]

And where is it? Just, like in his basement.

[D]

It's just. Exactly. It's just in his basement. It looks like shit.

[A]

Oh, that's sick.

[D]

I mean, the film quality is good.

[A]

Like that seventies show vibes.

[D]

Like that seventies Show. Yeah. And it's. It's really good. And it's not available on audio.

[C]

Whoa.

[D]

It's like, only available on Netflix. Whoa. It's really good.

[A]

That's crazy.

[D]

I like Pete Davidson a lot.

[A]

Yeah, I like Pete Davidson. I think he's really funny. All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today's podcast. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you for everybody that joined us. Thank you. Jason Nash. Go watch his daily vlogs, some of the littest in the game, and then go check out Natalie's job application. She's hiring people and she'd love to see you. Okay, bye.