Podcast Summary: VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: "I Won Creator of the Year" (April 2, 2026)

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This episode centers around David Dobrik winning "Creator of the Year" at Snapchat's inaugural "Snappies" award show. The conversation dives into the evolution of Snapchat as a platform, creator monetization, internet culture, and the behind-the-scenes of social media success. Special guest Jim Shepard, a senior Snapchat exec and liaison to major creators, joins David, Jason Nash, and Natalie for a candid, humorous, and revealing discussion about the creator economy.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Welcoming Jim Shepard and Intro to Snapchat (01:04 - 03:59)

• Jim Shepard, veteran Snapchat executive, recounts his journey from the William Morris mailroom to the entertainment business, to building out Snapchat’s creator team.
  • "I started my career in the William Morris mailroom...and then I went to Snapchat and I went to VidCon in 2017 and hung out with you guys...I was like, this creator thing is real." — Jim Shepard (01:41)
• Jim talks about connecting Snapchat to “the entertainment business” with deals and building out the creator partnerships team.

Notable Moment

• Natalie declares her admiration for Snapchat CEO Evan Spiegel, sparking a lighthearted digression about his marriage to Miranda Kerr (03:44).

2. Snapchat’s Impact on Creators and the Industry (03:59 - 08:25)

• The hosts discuss how Snapchat was the first to invent "Stories," attracting creators and celebrities (e.g., DJ Khaled) early on.
  • "Sometimes people forget that Snapchat invented Stories." — Jim Shepard (06:56)
• David shares his own hustles to build a Snapchat following: hijacking theme accounts, cross-promoting via Vine, and quickly amassing over 6 million followers.
  • "I would put my Snapchat at the bottom of it. And I post that video on that theme account about six times a week...which grew my following on snap to over 6 million." — David Dobrik (05:37)
• Jim reflects on how introducing ads and paying creators gave Snapchat a "second act."
  • "I mean, we love a comeback. That was a comeback for us." — Jim Shepard (08:17)

3. Instagram Copies Stories & Platform Competition (08:25 - 10:38)

• The group discusses the day Instagram copied Stories from Snapchat:
  • "That was a dark day, really. That was a tough day." — Jim Shepard (08:32)
  • Jim emphasizes, “You can copy a product. You can't copy culture.”
• They tackle legal questions about patenting social media formats and conclude that innovation is key, not litigation.

4. Snapchat as a Messaging Platform and Global Impact (10:38 - 13:08)

• Despite its content features, Snapchat remains primarily a messaging app at heart.
  • "Snapchat opens to the camera and people are coming in first and foremost to talk to their friends..." — Jim Shepard (10:52)
• Jim hits on Snapchat’s staggering reach: “We reach a billion people every month...90% of Gen Z in over 25 countries.” (11:42)
• The group discusses deeper engagement and the uniquely strong uptake in the Middle East, especially Saudi Arabia, where Snap events are "the main event." (12:32)

5. Disappearing Content, Privacy, and Creator Mental Health (13:08 - 14:36)

• The ephemerality of Snap—disappearing messages and stories—cuts down on social media anxiety.
  • "The disappearing thing is incredible. It's so...no pressure." — David Dobrik (13:57)
  • David introduces the concept of "analysis paralysis" and how Snap helps avoid it.

6. The Snappies: David Wins Creator of the Year (15:36 - 18:29)

• David discusses his win at the first-ever Snappies, Snapchat's award show.
  • "I got to win, I guess the biggest Award of the night...Creator of the year." — David Dobrik (15:44)
• Behind the curtain: David jokes he "bribed" Jim for the award ($50,000—jokingly), and details his stress about missing people in his speech.
• Jim felt anxiety mid-speech before being acknowledged: "I was creaking in my chair." — Jim Shepard (17:13)
• David reminisces about sitting next to JoJo Siwa and the generational shift ("She's now the age I was when I met her..."). (18:29)

7. Snapchat Parties, Brand Collaborations, and Event Stories (23:30 - 27:59)

• Details on Snap sponsoring David’s and Natalie’s upcoming "butter yellow" themed birthday party (23:39).
• Discussion around past events: David’s habit of arriving underdressed or late; funny behind-the-scenes of high-profile galas (21:00).
• Security and wild stories about fans sneaking into parties, likening David to Gatsby: "You're like the Great Gatsby...the party guy." — Jim Shepard (27:40)

8. The Future of Snapchat: Monetization and Creator Tools (28:04 - 41:25)

• Jim lays out new and expanding monetization opportunities:
  • Revenue sharing on Stories and Spotlight (Snap’s TikTok/Reels competitor).
  • Creator subscriptions—fans pay for premium content (rolling out to more creators).
    • "The goal is to make this thing big." — Jim Shepard (36:28)
• Discussion about content moderation, safety, and privacy—especially for minors.
  • "The safety of our community is the most important thing to us..." — Jim Shepard (29:14)
• David probes his own stats, asks who’s the biggest on Snap (Kylie Jenner has the most followers, but David leads in time spent on Stories).
  • "More people are spending more time in your story than probably anyone else." — Jim Shepard (37:13)
• Spotlights' enormous growth (30% YoY), and how design tweaks (making it easier to discover) are in the pipeline.
• David floats the idea of customizable app homepages and special filter-based brand contests (the latter is possible if the right sponsor is found).

9. Creator Business, Sponsorships & Revenue (44:20 - 46:02)

• Natalie asks how Snapchat actually makes money—ads in stories, chat, and new formats like "Sponsored Snaps" are growing.
  • "Snapchat reaches over 500 million people every day, like a billion people every month..." — Jim Shepard (45:16)
• Jim explains daily and monthly user figures (DAU/MAU), and how brand partnerships are evolving.

10. Team Banter, Natalie’s (Joking) Snapchat Job Offer (31:44 - 34:43)

• Lighthearted back-and-forth about Natalie possibly leaving David for Snap, her past jobs, and banter about timely message responses.
• The group jokes about roles, money, and who brings in more value (Natalie or David) via subscriptions.

11. Who’s Really Winning: Creator Dynamics & Monetization Strategy (35:32 - 38:52)

• Jim debates whether Natalie or David could be bigger earners; David says he struggles with putting content behind a paywall.
• The early days of Snap's ad program are recalled—David was one of the first with access, leading to explosive viewership and earnings:
  • "There were stories where I was getting like 6, 7, 8 million views...those were the golden days." — David Dobrik (38:38)
• Now, competition is intense with thousands of creators worldwide.

12. Multi-Generational Use and App Adoption (46:10 - 47:54)

• The conversation closes lightheartedly about the age and tech savvy of Snap execs, and how even older investors now use group chat in the app.
  • "My whole family is on Snapchat. My parents Snapchat me every single day. They vlog the day." — Natalie (47:36)

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "You can copy a product. You can't copy culture." — Jim Shepard (08:40)
• "The disappearing thing is incredible...So no pressure." — David Dobrik (13:57)
• "I just have a tough time, like, separating free content to a paywall." — David Dobrik (35:56)
• "More people are spending more time in your story than probably anyone else." — Jim Shepard (37:13)
• "You're like the Great Gatsby...the party guy." — Jim Shepard (27:40)
• "Congrats to you for Creator of the Year at the Snappies." — Jim Shepard (46:10)
• "My whole family is on Snapchat...they vlog the day; they send it to me." — Natalie (47:36)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:04 — Show intro, welcoming Jim Shepard of Snapchat
• 03:59 — The rise of Snapchat stories & celebrity influence
• 08:25 — Instagram clones Stories, Snap's response & resilience
• 11:42 — Snap's global dominance among Gen Z and user stats
• 13:57 — The value of ephemeral content & relief from social pressure
• 15:36 — The Snappies: David wins Creator of the Year, speech talk
• 21:00 — Event stories: galas, dress code, and wild party tales
• 28:04 — The future of Snap: monetization, Spotlight, subscriptions
• 35:32 — Creator dynamics: who brings in the revenue, early Snap days
• 44:20 — Snap's business model and new ad formats
• 47:36 — All ages use Snap: family, execs, group chats

Tone and Language

The episode is filled with typical Dobrik/Nash humor—sarcastic, self-deprecating, and ribbing among friends—while Jim Shepard is candid, personable, and eager to demystify the platform's inner workings. Banter and personal stories ground the discussion, making it both informative and entertaining.

For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode breaks down what it takes to build a social media juggernaut, both from the creative and executive sides. You’ll hear about the evolution and future of Snapchat, the realities of being a top-tier creator, the anxiety of public recognition, and the community at the heart of internet culture. There’s plenty for tech nerds and fans of the Dobrik extended universe alike.

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