Planning Our First Baby

Summary

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Podcast Summary: VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: "Planning Our First Baby"

Date: September 25, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of "VIEWS," David Dobrik and Jason Nash are joined by recurring friends Natalie and Naveen, who dive deep into the hilarities and anxieties of relationships, money, and—most notably—planning for Jason and Naveen’s first baby together. The group veers from playful banter about personal finances and romantic dilemmas to honest, sometimes vulnerable conversations about parenthood, prenups, and navigating unclear relationships. Relationship avoidance, candid admissions, and an impromptu business pitch for a rage room for kids are just some of the episode’s memorable highlights.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Natalie’s Brand Meetings & Business Chat

• [01:05] Natalie drops in with a business meeting story, mentioning her upcoming call with marketing giant Edelman.
• The group jokes about pronouncing "Edelman" and discusses possible brand partnerships.
• Quote: "Let’s give Natalie some credit. Who are you meeting with today? Let’s see if it pans out in the future." – David [01:27]

2. The Philosophy of Prenups & Finances in Marriage

• [05:24] Jason and Naveen discuss money management in their marriage and access to credit cards, leading to a conversation about prenups.
• Agreement that love can sometimes cloud pragmatic decisions about prenups—David admits he’d likely not insist on one in the throws of romance.
• Quote: "I think you shouldn’t marry someone if you feel like they would take anything from you." – Naveen [06:24]
• "But it does, puts the romance out of it." – Naveen, on prenups [07:24]

3. Honest Money Talk: Jason’s Wealth (or Lack Thereof)

• [11:33] The group delves into Jason’s real financial situation. Naveen jokes she “still, to this day, has no idea” how much Jason makes.
• Jason admits to some savings and a sizable amount in stocks but confesses to low cash-on-hand and recent financial worries.
• Quote: "I think he, like, he’s a big panicker. If he lived in Vernon Hills...you’d be one of the richest people in Vernon Hills for sure." – David [12:01]

4. Should You Move for Money?

• [14:44] David suggests that Jason could have more financial ease (and less stress) by moving out of L.A., perhaps to Texas or Vernon Hills. Jason is open but skeptical.

5. Jason & Naveen Plan for a Baby

• [17:40] Jason jokes about “dumping the baby” on Naveen’s family in Texas, then admits parental duties intimidate him in the baby stage.
• The group reveals Jason and Naveen have decided to have a kid together, influenced in part by David’s encouragement.
• Quote: "You got to have a baby. You can’t just fucking leave her out to dry." – David [18:30]
• Naveen cheerfully shares her approach—pitching the idea of a life and potential jobs to make it all work, even with little savings.
• Quote: "People have kids and they have no money..." – Naveen [22:51]
• Naveen pitches a hilarious business: “Napoleon’s Complex”—a rage room for kids, themed around her future (non-existent) son Napoleon.
• Quote: "Tantrums are celebrated." – Naveen [24:34]

6. Family Vlogging Ethics

• [21:17] The gang reflects on “family vlogs”—David and Jason debate the pros and cons of putting kids on YouTube. Jason feels he gave his kids inspired opportunities, while David acknowledges the fun side.
• Quote: "It’s not really fair to the kid. The kid is just there. And they’re like, oh great, a camera." – Jason [21:50]

7. Natalie’s Romantic Dilemma

• [26:01] Natalie shares woes about a budding romance—she and her new guy have hung out several times, but things aren’t progressing beyond talking and kissing.
• David urges her to be direct; Naveen initially suggests not responding to spur action but later advises Natalie to have an honest conversation.
• Quote: "Do men spiral as much as women do when you like someone?" – Natalie [31:01]
• The group discusses the awkwardness of “defining the relationship” and the generational differences in dating approaches.
• Quote: "You gotta figure this out. You’re in this random stalemate." – David [45:30]

8. Communication in Relationships

• [35:44] David and Jason debate whether it’s better to be upfront or to play it cool in relationships—David is team “extreme clarity,” while Jason likes the chase.
• Quote: "You just have to literally say the words, 'what are we'." – David [39:06]
• Naveen, after hearing more, concurs: "I feel like you should talk to him. Because...you’ll be friends forever." [44:39]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Prenuptial Agreements:
  "When I do fall in love, you know damn well I’m not going to want to sign a prenup." – David [07:03]

• On Relationship Avoidance:
  "Being emotional makes me extremely uncomfortable." – Natalie [42:38]

• On Parenting Fears:
  "I’ll have a baby, but I don’t want to do anything. Yeah, that’s really where I’m at." – Jason [17:52]

• On Clarity in Dating:
  "If you want to hang out again, cool. If you want to...just be friends, I’m totally down." – David [36:55]

• On Romantic Paralysis:
  "My whole issue is that, like, I feel like at this point, either myself or him needs to propel things forward." – Natalie [35:06]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:05] Natalie’s business hustling and Edelman confusion
• [05:24] Married finances and credit cards
• [06:24] Prenup and divorce philosophy
• [11:33] How much money does Jason have?
• [14:44] On leaving L.A. and cost of living
• [17:40] Jason & Naveen’s baby plans and nervousness
• [22:51] Family vlogging debate
• [24:11] “Napoleon’s Complex” rage room pitch
• [26:01] Natalie’s relationship spiral
• [36:12] David’s insistence on up-front communication
• [39:06] Should you just ask: “What are we?”
• [44:39] Naveen changes her mind—Natalie should talk directly
• [45:30] David bluntly: “You’re in this random stalemate.”

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Summary & Takeaways

• Jason and Naveen move closer to starting a family, with candid talks about fears, readiness, and finances.
• The pod offers plenty of honest takes on love, prenups, money habits, and the awkwardness of modern dating—often delivered with wit and self-deprecation.
• Natalie’s romantic stasis sparks lively debate on communication, directness, and gender roles in dating.
• Moments of self-reflection and group teasing lighten the mood, keeping the tone playful but real.

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For listeners:
If you’ve ever felt nervous about mixing finances or taking relationship steps, this episode delivers candid camaraderie, relatable confusion, and plenty of banter you’ll recognize from your own friend group.

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What'S up, guys? Welcome back to View. Natalie's here. Sorry. Go.

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Oh, my God.

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No, I'm kidding. Natalie's a story though. That's what I meant to say.

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I only have a story. I just.

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Natalie said, let's get on the pod right now. I have a really good story, mostly.

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Because I have to get into meetings soon, so we need to podcast.

[B]

Who are you meeting with today?

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I love businesswoman Natalie. I love it.

[B]

Let's give Natalie some credit. Who are you meeting with today? Let's see if it pans out in the future. So kind of tee it up right now. Okay, well, something people liked on the podcast is I brought up doing a bit in the airplane.

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Yeah.

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And then I saw a couple comments on my airplane post with the Fuck with the boom boys, and they were like, wow, this made it out of the podcast. So now, Nat, you tell us what brands you're talking to, and then when the brands are brand deals posted, we'll see if you succeeded.

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Okay, well, fingers crossed for me, guys. Today I'm talking to Edelman, Edelman Edelman. They're like one of the big three marketing agencies. They represent, like, is that Edelman Edelman.

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Edelman.

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Great to see all of you guys at Edelman Edelman. But thank you, Natalie. Thanks for jumping on the call.

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Natalie's just forever hungry. Edelman.

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Well, eetelman, that's funn.

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Well, maybe it is. Maybe it is Edelman. But like, I've heard of Edelman. I've just not heard of it.

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It's probably Edelman Edelman. Like tomato, tomato.

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Hey, we heard the pod. It's disrespectful. Okay, so you're getting on with Edelman. Edelman.

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They represent, like, all the Unilever brands, which is. I mean, they have hundreds and hundreds of brands.

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Give me one. Just so people know.

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They have, like, PayPal, Starbucks, eBay, Heineken, Dove. All the Dove products.

[B]

Ooh, I do like Heineken.

[A]

What about a reality show that would follow Natalie, the businesswoman that you would produce.

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You know, my dream brand deal is.

[A]

Which one?

[B]

A good beer and a good cigarette company.

[C]

A good beer and a good cigarette.

[A]

Cigarette companies aren't allowed to advertise.

[B]

Yeah, we have to change that.

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No.

[C]

What do you mean they're not allowed to. They're not allowed to advertise at all?

[A]

No, no, Natalie.

[B]

What?

[A]

I don't think so. Oh, they, like, got rid of that.

[B]

Which is.

[A]

Which is kind of wild.

[B]

Have you ever seen a Marlboro commercial?

[C]

I mean, I feel like I have, but I guess I haven't.

[A]

When you were 6?

[B]

No. No, no. Yeah, that's, like, not a thing. No, I mean, that would be pretty cool. No, sure.

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Yeah. A Capri.

[B]

A Capri ad for you, like, cigarette commercials would be the best. Marlboro, red Marlboro. Cuz fuck it.

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Well, maybe if the world was ending. I don't know. But, like, we have about five years left here and.

[B]

And they should be pretty. Like. What I love about, like, Let me talk about, like, things that are frowned upon to promote gambling is, like, one thing that's frowned upon. I love gambling. Sure, I've. I've. We've gambled in the vlogs forever. But one of my favorite things about people that promote gambling on streams is there's a big thing over their stream that says, do not gamble, you will lose.

[A]

I think that everybody do that.

[B]

A lot of people. Most people. It's an option. You could say that. Which is really interesting. Well, and like, if you're smart enough, you actually should take that advice. Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Look, I love gambling. I'll do it myself. But, like, now I don't do it really myself as much I love to watch people gamble. I would, like. Like, if I could sit next to. Like, I've said this. If I can sit next to Steve for hours, I would.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And just watch him gamble. But. Yeah. Okay, so Edelman is coming. Can we get them on the pod? Can we just get the beginning of the zoom call? Just. I want you to go, hello, Edelman. And I want to see what they say.

[C]

No, I'm not doing that.

[A]

I love that idea. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

He wants me to mispronounce it in front of them?

[B]

Yeah. I just want. I want them.

[C]

He wants me to embarrass myself on the zoom.

[B]

Well, no, I'll jump in and we'll say that this is a whole argument.

[C]

And we'll clarify that Natalie's an idiot.

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No, how about we put money on it? Because I genuinely think you may be right. It may be Edelman. How about we bet 500 bucks?

[C]

I don't want to lose 500 bucks.

[B]

Edelman or Edelman.

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You really are a gambler, aren't you?

[B]

Today Jason bet me $500 I'd make a basketball shot in my backyard.

[A]

I thought no way would happen. He came out cold. Naveen and I were out there. I owe Naveen $500. And then Dave walked out and I was like, okay, you can shoot it further from. From Naveen. And he called. He just hit it. He hit like a three pointer. Wait, further than a three pointer?

[B]

500 bucks. I can't believe he offered me that much. I was like, is this a lot? I was like, are things like that good with you, Jay, or you just.

[A]

No, terrible.

[B]

Do you and Naveen. Naveen, you want to grab the mic? Naveen's here. Do you and Naveen. Have you guys joined your bank accounts yet? Or is this a sore subject? Or how does this work? Naveen, do you have access to the Jason Nash credit card?

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I could take his card.

[A]

Yeah. She takes my card.

[B]

Is she ever, like.

[A]

Is most things, really. Yeah. Pay for most things?

[B]

What do you mean you pay for. You guys are married. Don't you guys just, like, kind of pay?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What do you mean, you pay for most things?

[A]

Well, I mean, my physical card comes out for most. Most things.

[D]

Like, his money is ours and then my money is mine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Damn. That is nice.

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That's so nice.

[D]

I have a pretty sweet deal over here.

[B]

So was there a moment, like, when you get married? Like, was there a moment where you guys went into. Was there a prenup signed?

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No.

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No.

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No.

[B]

I don't even know whose end it would be. What part, I am wondering. So there's. So. Okay, so when you get a divorce, I mean, you could take half the money. Theoretically.

[D]

Theoretically, yeah. But I think you shouldn't marry someone if you feel like they would take anything from you.

[B]

I don't think anybody ever marries anybody like that.

[D]

I think you can tell.

[B]

I don't really know. I don't. I think people. I think people change over the years.

[A]

I agree with David.

[B]

I mean, it's. It's really possible, I think.

[A]

Especially when you have, like, a bad breakup.

[D]

I think people change if. If there's, like, something. Like, if someone does something so awful to you and then it gets, like, vindictive.

[B]

I think if you cheat, if you.

[D]

Then it's.

[B]

You should. It's fair game. Take the money, like. Because I think that's like, a legally binding thing. But if it's just, like, falling out of love.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. Like. Like, I don't know. I think that's where, like, I. Sorry. I think that's where the prenup should be void is if you cheat. But, like, I don't know. I also have, like, such a warm perception because, like, when I do get. When I do fall in love, you know damn well I'm not going to want to sign your sign of prenup. Like, I'm going to be like, I would never. She'd never take this money. And then now he's going to be like, you better make her sign it. And then.

[D]

And then I'm wrong with having one. I feel like. But it does. But it's the romance out of it.

[B]

It's what you said. Yeah, it does, like, kind of kill the vibe.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But isn't it kind of world more.

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Normal, I think, for someone like you definitely, being the age that you're at.

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I think that that philosophy is also true when you don't have millions and millions of dollars worth of assets. I think that's different for an average American, that makes an average income, that's fine. But when there's so much more on the line, I just think that's just.

[A]

Normal for me, too. If Naveen and I broke up, I still would take care of her. Wow.

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That's really sweet.

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You know what I mean?

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So nice.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Wait, so take you back to this credit card thing. So, Naveen, like, if you. If you wake up tomorrow and you're like, I need this fucking Fendi bag. Like, I need to go get a Fendi bag right now.

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Okay.

[B]

What's the. Do you talk to Jason? Do you.

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Like, if I wanted something like a purchase like that where it's like.

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Like he'll see it on the statement, like the credit card statement.

[D]

Yeah, I probably wouldn't.

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Unless.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think he's ever checked his statement.

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Really?

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Naveen has a bad. I think you have, like, a bad. There's like a chasm. Like, I think people maybe might look at you and think you'd want a Fendi bag. Yeah, but she doesn't do that. She literally Thrifts. And she like, like second we'll be in the store and I'll be like. We were walking on Abba Kinney the other day and I was like, let's buy you something.

[D]

He like bags, Let me give you.

[A]

Something, you know, like, you know, let's buy you a dress. And she's like, no, absolutely not. I'm not gonna pay full price for anything. Yeah, she's really good like that.

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I get that. But I think like even like I wouldn't consider myself that kind of person.

[A]

But you're not that kind person either.

[B]

Like. But definitely once a year I do get the moment where I'm like, I gotta get this watch. Even though it's like whatever, who cares? Like it's just a watch. And I have.

[A]

Right. But those watches retain their value too. Yeah, that's not that crazy of a purchase.

[B]

Do you ever like go actually motivated me to buy another watch.

[A]

Do you ever go to like Hugo Boss or like, I don't know, do you ever go to like Neiman Marcus and you're like, I'm gonna buy myself a wardrobe.

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Never.

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Never, Never ever. You get clothes for free and that's what you wear?

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Pretty much, yeah. I mean I really fuck with young la. Like I love young.

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Like I got a great shirt from them the other night during the sperm race. Yeah, I took it home. Hope you don't mind.

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That's fine.

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Do you want it back?

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No, no, please, please. You keep it. I like them cuz they'll just like good for any occasion. Like the one time I'll buy clothes is if we're like two weeks into like a trip somewhere or like we're in Miami and it's like a special night out and like everyone's feeling that, let's go to Kith. Like Kith is the one place where I'm like, okay, I can go.

[A]

People don't know what kith is.

[B]

Really.

[A]

That's really funny. It's funny to us. Do they have kith in other cities?

[C]

Just New York, L.A. miami.

[A]

It's like kith is like this like. Like for guys, which is so silly. It's like really, really high end.

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For girls.

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Guys.

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Yeah.

[A]

Oh really?

[C]

Yeah, they have girls stuff too.

[A]

But you can buy $2,000 sneakers in there, right?

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Yeah.

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And it's really trendy.

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Trendy as hell.

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The trendiest of trendy items.

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Yeah.

[B]

Like okay, so. So it's kind of like Supreme. But supreme is like hype.

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Where supreme says own brand. It's higher end, has other brands in it. Like, kids has their own brand, but they also have, like, other designer brands.

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And it's so, like, hip and stuff. They'll have, like, an ice cream bar.

[C]

Treats.

[B]

Yeah, they'll have, like, an ice cream bar inside the store. And now they're coming up with Kith in. In New York. In New York. It's $36,000 to join.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah, because it's a paddle club, so you play padel there.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So it's like a Wellness Club. It's $36,000 to join and $7,000 per year.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Yeah. And you get kids clothing and you get to play paddle there.

[C]

And they have an Erewhon smoothie bar. The first.

[B]

It's the first Erewhon in New York.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[B]

It's like the Erewhon of, like, clothing.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Kind of. Yeah. Actually, that's probably the best way to describe it.

[A]

Yeah. They have a big one in Malibu now that I saw.

[B]

Um. But, yeah, so that's the only time I'll splurge. Okay. So. So you don't use the credit card just because you don't ever, like, feel the need to.

[D]

Yeah, I'll use it if it's, like, groceries and stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But I also feel like if I really wanted something, I think he would get it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[D]

He doesn't really say no.

[B]

When you. When you guys first got married or when you guys first started dating and, I mean, did you, Naveen, did you automatically know, like, what Jason's financial situation was?

[D]

I still, to this day, have no idea.

[A]

You still have no ide.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Because genuinely, I don't have any idea.

[D]

You don't?

[B]

I think he, like, he's a big panicker.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

So, like, I think if he. If he lived in Vernon Hills, right where I'm from, like, our suburb, that's like a pretty. Is affluent the right word? Yeah, like, it's a pretty. Thank you so much.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Thank you, guys.

[A]

Your vocabulary has come up.

[D]

That's nice.

[A]

Really nice.

[B]

Come abroad.

[A]

Yeah, that's good. Boring. Come on my face.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. Like if you lived in Vernon Hills.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Not necessarily where we grew up, because we were, like, lower on the totem pole. Lower in the Vernon Hills area. But you'd be one of the richest people in Vernon Hills for sure. Yeah, for sure. Like, undisputed heavyweight champion Jason Nash.

[A]

I fucked up when I bought my house. I should have bought a cheaper house. That's the big one.

[B]

But when you're, like, looking at it from the outside, you know It's Jason Nash doesn't make a lot of money.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But I think just the. The lifestyle you live with, what you want to provide for your kids, is extremely expensive. So I, too, do not know how much money you make.

[A]

Like, no one knows.

[B]

Yeah, I know the joke is, like, Jay doesn't make a lot of money.

[C]

Broke.

[A]

He's broke, but, like, nobody knows.

[B]

But, like, he's obviously not broke, but. Yeah, but he's not. So, like, nobody. You still don't know?

[D]

I have no idea. And to be honest, I don't know if he knows because he forgets, like, logins and stuff. I just don't see him, like, logging into a bank and, like, knowing I.

[A]

Go into my bank.

[D]

You do?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

What's the last time you went to go check how much you have in your account?

[A]

Yesterday.

[B]

How much is in there?

[A]

$2,000.

[B]

No, it's not. No, it's not.

[A]

No.

[C]

But that's just like an account. Like, that's not like.

[B]

Yeah, that's like, that's not. That's like his gummy to buy gummy worms for the kids account. It's $2,000. How much is in the full thing, if you had a guess?

[A]

In my account right now and, like, the account that I used daily, like, $15,000.

[B]

Okay, but what about, like. What about, like, the savings, like, stocks and stuff?

[A]

Yeah, in savings, not much. And then in stocks I have a lot.

[B]

Okay, great.

[A]

Yeah, but I can't touch that. No, I can't. You get taxed on it.

[C]

Like, it's in your, like, retirement.

[A]

Yeah, you get taxed. You get taxed. If you. If you understand.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

I get.

[B]

If you have to leave the country right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You have to. You're going to fucking Nicaragua. You gotta get outta here. Pulling all the money from your stocks, not including your house. How much money do you think?

[A]

Maybe, like, $400,000.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. It's incredible. And then probably another.

[D]

I think way more than that.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[D]

I can tell by people's facial, like.

[A]

No, I've had to dip into it this year. I had to take money out. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, that's really incredible.

[A]

Yeah. I gotta find something new, man. I don't know if I need to sell my body or go start selling cars or. I saw a postmaster. How much do postmates make?

[B]

You also have a couple hundred grand.

[D]

In your house, um, like, hidden in there.

[A]

Like, they. They made an offer on my house, and it was an offer where I wouldn't make any money. On the house.

[B]

Yeah, but you put down payment down so you get that money back. Like there's money. You make like $200,000 selling your house.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Back. Yeah, yeah. So like.

[A]

Yeah, but then where do I live? You know what I mean? Where do we live?

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[B]

Jamie, like, my parents back in the day probably had $4,000 in their bank account. Like, I. I can't even. You know what I mean?

[A]

Not that much for like 20.

[B]

20, 25.

[A]

Right, right, right, right. But I mean, they didn't live in la. They didn't.

[B]

No, I know. They didn't have a kid in college.

[A]

They didn't have a kid.

[B]

I'm just saying you panic too much. You should relax.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just chill out.

[B]

Yeah. You're always in like a panic. It's good that you're in a panic state. You'll continue to make money, but, like, don't worry. Your kids are 18. They're gonna have to start fending for themselves.

[A]

What could Naveen and I do? You're good. You're great. You're great with ideas, how to make money. Yeah. Yeah. You're really good at this. And that's good too.

[B]

I think doing what you do is fine. I just think, like, I don't think you have to live in LA for much longer. Think we should leave, Wait till. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. Go to Austin. Go to. I don't know. Sorry. Go. Go anywhere. Go any. Go to.

[A]

Go to Milwaukee.

[B]

Go to one of those cities. No, go to one of those cities. Like when you're like your kids, not like you're Florida. You're leaving you're leaving the grocery store and the sky's all red.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Orange.

[A]

Yeah, we have that here.

[B]

No, we don't have it. It's very rare to get here. It's like a Florida or like, probably like a south thing or. Go to Vernon Hills, brother. You'll live like a king.

[C]

Is there anywhere else where you've like, considered like, oh, I live there.

[A]

I would go. I mean, I feel like I wouldn't like Texas, but I would go live there. Do you know what I mean? I'd go give it a try.

[B]

I don't know why. I've been coming around to Texas too.

[A]

I mean, Naveen's from Texas, which is good.

[B]

I've met a lot of people from Texas.

[A]

So if we have a baby, I can dump the baby on them.

[D]

On all of Texas?

[A]

No, on your family.

[B]

Oh, your family's there?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, my family's there.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I'll have a baby, but I don't want to do anything. Yeah, that's really where I'm at.

[D]

I'm afraid that Jason will not have contact while it's a baby. And then when he's older, he'll hang out.

[A]

See him when he's four.

[B]

Oh, that's amazing.

[A]

I don't want to do it.

[B]

You'll see him when he's four. So you guys are gonna have a kid?

[D]

Yes. With. Things have changed. We've talked.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[B]

Time out.

[D]

Him down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wait.

[A]

You were a big part of that, actually.

[B]

Good.

[C]

Instigating the conversation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, Dave, Dave's. Dave's really great. I wish people could know how great you are, but every time I say it, people go, what?

[B]

Wait, what did I do?

[A]

I'm joking. But Dave is in your corner. He was like, he's like, you got it. You got to have a baby. You can't just fucking leave her out to dry. And I was like, yeah, you're right. You're right.

[D]

Yeah. Because I guess people took it as like, oh, if Jason doesn't have a baby with me, I'll never have a baby. But it's like, oh, I'll. I'll go have a baby with someone. I never understood that.

[A]

Yeah. We were driving over here. We were driving over here and 70 year old. She was on Instagram. What did you see?

[D]

There's like this 70 year old, like really wealthy, like very old man, 79.

[A]

Year old billionaire who's basically said he's.

[D]

Looking for someone to have two sons for him. And I was like, act right, Jason. So Jason's agreed to have one kid.

[C]

Wait, so you would go, Would you leave Jason to have this child? Or you would just go explore other options so that you could have a child but also still be with Jason.

[B]

Wait, I think this is a beneficial thing for both of you to have a 79 year old's baby.

[D]

Right?

[C]

For sure.

[D]

That's why I was saying, like I'd be happy to stay with Jason, but I don't think he wants to live with a kid. That's what he was saying.

[B]

Can you mix Jason's sperm with this guy's sperm?

[A]

So it's a 25% his and all of his money.

[B]

25% Jason's. Character wise, financially.

[A]

The truth is, when you get a kid, you love the kid. And I know I'd be good. I'm good. I like kids a lot.

[B]

Can you backtrack Jay a little? Because you were. Okay, so we have to go back to the night of Susie's. What was it? Vardon's birthday.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I brought up, I said, when are you guys gonna have kids?

[D]

That was so funny because we had been like going back and forth about it. And then I was like, fine, I won't mention it anymore. Don't talk to me about it. And then we go out to have a night out and you go, when are you guys having K? Which isn't something you ever asked us.

[A]

No, it's so him.

[D]

So funny.

[A]

It's so him inserting yourself.

[B]

Jason looked at me and he goes, way to go, Dave. And then, and the Jason was like, I can't have kids. And I'm like, what? Like, I couldn't believe it. I'm like, wait, well, Naveen really wants kids. Like, unfortunately.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Look, you're gonna have to have another kid. Just cuz. Yeah, cuz, you know, you lucked out with Naveen here. You have to pay the piper.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I would like. That's why I play the lottery every.

[B]

Week for the kids.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I have this fantasy that I'll come in and be like, all right, let's go.

[B]

So you were, you were very against the having the kid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When we were at this party and now this is the first time I'm hearing this. You guys have talked and all of.

[D]

A sudden I think he was just stressed out.

[A]

Just money.

[D]

I came up with like a whole concep. Family vlogs, child. No, no, no.

[A]

What did you say?

[B]

Family vlogs. The whole concept. It's called Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 4pm Family vlogs.

[A]

Gotta work. Oh, man. We did that. Oh, my God. I did that with kids.

[D]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Now that. No. You know, I wish I hadn't.

[D]

Well, you just don't know.

[B]

I'm 50. 50 on family vlogs. I don't. I'm. Obviously, I'm so biased because I'm a YouTuber, but.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. I don't understand what. I guess I do. I get it. And then I don't get it. Why it's, like, bad.

[A]

It's not really fair to the kid. Cause the kid is just like, there. And they're like, oh, great, a camera. Let's film.

[B]

But the kid doesn't know that he gets more toys. What do you mean? I think that's awesome. I used to do that. Like. Yeah.

[A]

I literally would do that. I'd be like, you gotta go to Toys R Us. And they'd be like, fuck, yeah, let's go.

[B]

Fuck, yeah. I don't know. I know how I grew up. Like, if I grew up and my family was vlogging.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, I was getting perks of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I'd be like, okay, let's rock. But I know that that's just, like, a very specific example. I'm a very specific example of that.

[A]

I mean, there's a lot of good things. Like, my kids got to go to, like, really cool stuff when they were younger that really inspired them. You know, like, my son got to see Herbie Hancock when he was 10 years old.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I was vlogging. And that inspired him to get into music. I know it did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Yeah. For sure. Jake, keep telling yourself that.

[A]

What was my time on the sperm race?

[B]

Okay. So sorry. And. And then what was the conversation that led you guys to be like, we're happy.

[D]

So I was just kind of, like, telling him, really? Like, people have kids and they have, like, no money or they have.

[B]

Are you saying this term, though?

[D]

Like, my family is, like, pretty middle class and my dad's still having kids.

[A]

Yeah. Her dad has a kid.

[D]

Normal.

[B]

Yeah. No, Jay, I know. I understand how kids.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So I kind of just like, pitched him an idea of, like, a life together and, like, potential jobs and, like, things we can do and how to make it work and.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's amazing. And what was the. What was the pitch? Was it. Where does it take place?

[C]

Yeah. What do you do?

[A]

Oh, you remember yesterday? You're so funny.

[D]

Why?

[B]

She.

[A]

She was, like, talking this big game last night. She's like, you know, I've Been reading.

[D]

A lot of, oh, Chinese medicine.

[A]

She's like, I've been reading about a lot of Chinese medicine. And, you know, I've just been learning so much. And then I go, oh, yeah, like, what? And she goes, I didn't think he.

[D]

Was going to ask me to elaborate. Well, I have. I have this, like, grand idea for my son, who doesn't exist yet, but him and I are gonna start this business together. But I'm gonna start the business while I'm pregnant and then build it and then give it to him.

[B]

Okay, so what's the business?

[D]

So our son's name is gonna be Napoleon.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And it's called Napoleon's Complex. And it's like a rage room for kids, kind of where you can have, like, a food fight. And, like, big personalities are like, welcome.

[B]

That's really funny.

[A]

Can you see me working there?

[B]

That's really funny.

[A]

Can you see me at Napoleon Complex?

[D]

Tantrums are celebr.

[A]

There.

[B]

Tantrums are celebrated.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow, that's interesting. Feels like when this kid comes, Jason's gonna have to be using the rage room a couple times. He'll be the first customer on Napoleon Complex. Fuck this.

[A]

Fuck it.

[B]

A twins. What the.

[A]

Oh, my God. What do I say when I wake up every morning?

[D]

You just scream, fuck.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Fuck.

[B]

Wait. This is amazing. Good for you guys. Wait, so this. Is this any second now?

[A]

I don't know. Maybe.

[D]

I'm not sure. I just quit. Like, I'm, like, taking down my energy drink intake and I just want to be, like, really healthy before I. I'm.

[A]

Waiting for a big score, you know?

[B]

Wait. Wow. This is amazing. Wait.

[A]

Make out with one more dude.

[B]

You know, for another 25k. Wait, are you actively trying to make babies?

[A]

No, no, no. Not trying yet. But pretty soon, I hope. I mean.

[B]

Wow. This is amazing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What?

[A]

Maybe we'll sell the house.

[B]

How many vlogs away are we from you surprising me with this pregnancy?

[A]

Oh, how many David vlogs?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Once every two weeks. Is this something we can get going for December?

[A]

I'll talk to Naveen.

[B]

Trying to think when we don't have an idea. Let's see.

[A]

I mean, Natalie pregnant would be the big one.

[B]

I just can't do that with her yet. We're not ready. Natalie.

[A]

Natalie pregnant thumbnail. That would really.

[B]

Natalie pregnant thumbnail.

[C]

Natalie married. I can imagine it now.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

How is that going? Anything happening?

[C]

No, actually, that was my story. That. I know that we started this saying now that we had a story and I actually never had the opportunity to tell it.

[B]

Very good. Just classic views, fashion. That's all the time we have for today too.

[A]

Short pod.

[B]

Today Natalie has a story. We're gonna make this pod. Short one.

[C]

But I was just thinking, because I have been talking to this guy, whatever, you guys. Yeah.

[D]

And.

[C]

And I was thinking he's very like, nonchalant about whatever, and David is like, sick of me speaking about this person.

[B]

He's like, okay, hold on. That's fucked up. Don't. Don't do that. I don't want to. If he's going to be your husband, don't put that out there like that.

[A]

So you, you come into words.

[C]

No, not like in a bad way. Not like you're sick of him. It's just like I talk about him like an overwhelming amount and like there's nothing that we've done in our friendship, relationship, whatever.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

There's no progress.

[B]

She talks about him.

[A]

Really? She bends your ear about it. She comes.

[B]

Yeah. Like there's so much stuff going on. We're hanging out, but they haven't like, kissed.

[C]

We've kissed. We kissed. We just haven't like done anything more than kiss. But.

[B]

But they've been talking for so long and hanging out for so long. And he'll like, after the club, he'll drive her home. Like, he's very sweet. He actually, I will say he's very, very nice. He brought. I don't know what we were doing. We were just having like a pool day and he brought me.

[C]

We were doing Alex's. He came over for Alex's like, club room bit.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And he brought me like tequila. Like, he brought me like a gift. Oh, wow. He's like, I didn't want to come to your house empty handed. I was like, oh, that's crazy.

[A]

Like, you're the dad.

[B]

I went straight to Natalie. Like, this guy's a freak. No, no, no, no. But he's very nice. He's very, very nice. He wants your blessing and he obviously really likes Natalie. But I'm just like, I'm not frustrated with him, I'm frustrated with Natalie. Yeah. I'm like, you keep talking this fucking. You keep talking about this guy all the time and it's like you're hesitant to pull. All you talk about is wanting to find somebody. And, like, you finally have somebody. But, like, they'll talk. Like at the pool party, right? They talked for like six, seven hours. And then I come downstairs and Natalie's here, like, eating a peanut butter jelly Sandwich with her two girlfriends, watching the fucking Catfish show on Netflix. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing here, Natalie? Like, why aren't you with your guy? Like, why are you still here? That's really funny, because in my head, I'm like, this poor guy had to talk to you for six hours and you just made him leave. Like, at least be cuddling here on the couch or something.

[C]

That's really funny.

[A]

Why did you.

[D]

No, I think that's good.

[C]

No, I also didn't make him leave. He had to go.

[B]

I would have to go, too. After six hours.

[A]

Why do you think that's good, Naveen?

[D]

Did you call me Natalie? Well, I think just doing it that way because it's like, if they're cuddling on the couch, it's gonna lead to more. The longer you can wait. I just really believe a guy will marry you the longer you wait. It's a weird thought process, but.

[C]

Yeah, maybe. But that was like, my whole thing. Like, I obviously have this crush. And like, every day. And, like, we don't talk every day. Like, I'll see him, like, maybe once on a weekend, whatever. But, like, mentally, I'm like, spiraling, right? It's like I'm thinking about him every day. Like, he's, like, fully consuming my thoughts. And I'm just wondering, like, is that, like, such a girl? Like, I know that's such a girl.

[B]

Sorry, can I also. I'm not saying that she should him.

[D]

Oh, no, no, I know. I know. You're saying time with him.

[B]

Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, yeah. I'm not like. I'm not saying, like, Natalie, he deserves to have sex with you at this point. Like, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just. I'm saying, like. Like, you talk about him and it's just the same thing over and over.

[D]

Just like, progressive.

[A]

Yeah, well, maybe it's his. Maybe. Maybe it's his fault, too.

[B]

Wait, so what's your issue?

[C]

For sure, it's his fault.

[B]

You're listening to this man.

[C]

It doesn't even think he knows.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Like I was telling you the other day, Like I was saying, oh, you should pursue this person. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, really step up and be a man.

[B]

Telling me.

[A]

Yeah. And I just. I do think it takes.

[B]

I remember it do.

[A]

It takes the man to like it do. Take the call you and be like, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Man.

[A]

But, yeah, he's got to step up, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, with you, I really stepped up. I said, oh, this is It.

[B]

A lot of. A lot of stories I hear of people on their wedding day. Like, they'll like, it'll be like the bride or somebody like, talking about how they first met or the bridesmaid. And a lot of the stories are along the lines of, he asked me on a date, I said no. Then he asked me on another date, I said no. Yeah, and it's a lot of that.

[A]

I hear that.

[B]

Which is kind of crazy to me because, like, if a girl doesn't want to go out, be like, that's it. Like, I'm not, like, I'm not gonna bother her about another. Like, that's like, that sounds fucking insane to me.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, like, if she, like. Well, I just. I'm like a strong believer in, like, if they want to, they would or whatever, you know, I mean, like, oh.

[A]

I'm a strong believer in the opposite.

[B]

That you have to hunt them down.

[A]

Yeah. Hunt him down.

[B]

Oh, that's interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But.

[A]

But also. Play it cool.

[B]

Wait. Okay, sorry. Sorry. So now what? What's your dilemma?

[C]

Well, I was just thinking, like, do men get that way? Like, I feel. I feel like obviously in my head, I'm like, oh, he's just like going about his week and working and doing whatever.

[B]

Well, like, is he thinking about you as much as you're thinking about him?

[C]

Yeah, like, do men spiral as much as, like, women do when you're friends with me?

[B]

How many times have I spiraled?

[C]

I mean, are we being for real?

[B]

Why?

[C]

Because, like, you don't really. You don't. You like. Well, I don't know. It's kind of hard to tell with you because, like, you're not really serious about a lot of things.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. Like, I'll spiral and I'll get over it.

[C]

Yeah, you'll like, fake spiral. Like you're spiraling just because you want us to, like, give you attention, to talk to you. Because you actually like spiraling. You just, like, want something to talk about. So you're like, this will get her to sit here and talk to me.

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No, no, of course not.

[B]

Oh, how often does he text you? Just like on the weekends.

[C]

Just on the weekends? Yeah.

[B]

That's still pretty good.

[A]

She's kind of in a bad spot.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Because if he's not stepping forward, then why, what's she to do?

[B]

I just don't understand it. Like, okay, so the other day we were going to the club and. And she was like, we just got. We just got done filming the bit, the fucking fire hose bit with Alex.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we went to Paris Hilton's after party. And then we were fucking tired. But our buddy Alex was djing this club for the first time. So we're like, we got to go stop by just to say hello. And Natalie was like, well, he wants to come and meet me at the club. This guy that she's talking to. And she's like, but I don't. Like, I can't be there for long. Like, I'm so tired. I want to go home. Like, how do I explain that to him? And I'm like, this is the type of shit that pisses me off. I'm like, call him, you fucking moron. Like, you've been talking to him for like, how is that hard to communicate at this point? Like, you guys sat there for six hours. Like, the second you could sit somewhere with six hours, like, I could tell him anything. Yeah, just facetime him. Tell him exactly what happened.

[A]

Yeah, I'm too tired.

[B]

I'm Too tired.

[A]

But I would have to come see.

[B]

Me for 20 minutes. But, like, I can't go. I can't go home with you tonight. Like, just tell him that then.

[C]

Exactly what I thought I was gonna have. I ended up sitting there for three hours and talking to him. Which was fine. Like, I had a great time, but, like, that's what. That's why I was trying to like.

[B]

Did you enjoy talking to him for three hours?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so no harm, no follow.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

And if you wanted to leave, you could have left. That's just up to you.

[A]

I really.

[D]

Maybe she just wanted to get your take on it because she.

[B]

Oh, she wants. She wants my attention.

[C]

She.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, she's spiraling.

[D]

It's not about her.

[B]

Oh, my God. She's in love with me.

[D]

She just wants to know what you would do.

[B]

You. No, no, no, that's not true.

[C]

I want his male advice.

[B]

No, she's actually, like, panicking.

[C]

No.

[B]

Yeah, I was fully panicking because I like, please. I'll be like, natalie, please stop. And then she'll be like, please help me. I'll be like, shut up. And then she's like, please, please, please. So, like, no, she is panicking about it. I just. I feel like at this point, like, I don't know.

[C]

Well, because my whole issue is that, like, I feel like at this point, well, okay, either myself or him needs to, like, propel things forward.

[B]

Totally. That's my frustration here is like, I.

[C]

Totally understand that and I agree. I just don't want to be that, like, if the same principle. If he wanted to, he would. Right?

[B]

Like, that's like, it's a two way street. I'm sorry. Like, this is like, I. I like, I think. I think there are, like, standards, like, guys should pay for the bills, guys should open to hold the doors, whatever, walk near the road, all that stupid shit. But I think when it comes to, like, who likes who, whose movie, what for it. I think it's two way street.

[A]

So what should she do? What would you say exactly? Give her the words. Write it. Say it.

[C]

Let's write the text to him right now.

[B]

No, she should be like, I don't think it texts. Yeah, she should do it.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I literally. Okay, I didn't know I went on a date, but I went on a date the other day.

[A]

Yes. Right.

[B]

And like, in the car. I didn't know it was a date. I was just saying it was a date because it was just fun for me to tell my friends that I'm going on a date. But then when I got there, I was like, is this a date? And I didn't know. And then there's a third person involved. And they were like, oh, my God, you guys are on a date. And I'm like, I don't know if this is a date.

[D]

On a two person date.

[B]

No, there's somebody else there.

[A]

My man, that I know.

[B]

Yeah, it's hard to explain. So then when I got back in the car with this girl, I was like, straight. I was like, what is this? Is this a date? And she's like, I think so. And I'm like, oh, this is a date. Okay, cool. It's a date. And then I was like, you have to spell it out for me. I literally said. I said this word for it. I was like, you have to spell this out for me. Like, are we hanging out again? Do I have to wait to text you? Are we doing something this weekend? Do you want me to play cool? Like, give me it. Give me it all. Because, like, I'm 29 years old. So, like, if you don't want to see me again, amazing. If you want to hang out, cool. If you want to.

[A]

I don't think that's really good.

[B]

If you also want to hang out as friends, I'm totally down to just be friends.

[D]

Yeah, but.

[B]

Or if you want to do like a second date, the proper second date style, let's do that.

[A]

Terrible.

[C]

But I think he's coming off right now very intense.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. This is very aggressive. I'm on a date, though. I'm like, very, like, this is like.

[C]

I think he was much sweeter in the moment, but I think that, like, conveying your feelings and being clear is really good.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

I don't want to go home and be like to Natalie.

[A]

Like, no.

[B]

What do I do? Because that's what I was doing with her. Like, when I didn't meet up with this girl yet, I was like, showing her. I was showing Natalie all the texts. I was like, I don't know how to read this person. Like, that's because I never hung out with her. But then once I hung out with her, I'm like, it's just me and you now. Like, no need to communicate with Natalie. I'm going to ask every. I'm going to ask every single thing I need to ask to you. I'm no longer going to guess. I'm just going to ask you.

[A]

This has been really fun. I'm going to go.

[B]

No.

[A]

I'll text Natalie.

[C]

I'LL stick with texting Natalie.

[A]

Thank you, David.

[B]

No, no, I know. I'm, like, coming off like, no, that's great. I know I'm coming off aggressive right now, but that's not how it was in the moment.

[A]

That's not great.

[C]

I think that is great. Like, if I had somebody that was actually being, like, clear and concise and, like, communicating like.

[B]

Jay, you're stuck in the fucking 70s where TV shows.

[A]

No, no, no. It's like this. It's like this. You go on the date with her. You decide. You decide if you're going to see her again. That's your decision. I think this in between kind of thing is what your generation does. And I think that's why there's, like.

[D]

She'S doing no in between.

[B]

I'm not saying in between at all. I'm saying the complete opposite. I'm saying right now, let's decide. Let's see each other or not. And then she's like, yeah, I'd love to. I'm like, I'd love to, too. I'll see you Friday. Yes.

[A]

I think it would be much better. It's Naveen. Wouldn't it be much better if he was like, this was an awesome time. I had the best time. I want to see you again. When are you free?

[B]

I definitely said that. I definitely said that.

[A]

Isn't that much better?

[D]

Yeah, but he's saying that. He's just also saying, like, if you. If you just want to be friends, that's cool. Like, he just wants to know.

[B]

Yeah, I don't. I don't want to, like. I don't want to waste my time with someone who's, like, on the fence or not in the position to, like, be going on dates mentally.

[A]

I think women like to be pursued, don't they?

[B]

But I will pursue her. Just give me.

[D]

You just want to know I'm wrong. I don't know. I like. I like queer.

[B]

Okay, so. Okay, so this brings me back to Natalie. You just have to literally say the words, what are we. It is so funny.

[C]

Oh, my God. I would literally throw up.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Don't say it in text. It's such a funny, awkward thing to talk about that. Like, it's like, I love talking about those.

[C]

I don't, like, thrive in those, like, high, not confrontational, but confrontational scenarios.

[B]

That's really funny.

[C]

Like, you love to have a conversation with people or, like, have friends that are, like, on the opposite side and, like, have a debate and, like, figure out who the fuck is More right than the. Like, I can't do that. I don't know.

[A]

Can we get Naveen's opinion? What do you think Natalie should do?

[D]

Yeah, I think that the next time he wants to hang out or like the next time he talks to you, just don't respond because then that puts him in the position of like either stepping forward.

[B]

Oh, that's wild. That's wild.

[D]

I just feel like if you didn't.

[B]

Respond to me, I'd never text you again.

[C]

Well, we're not there. Like, we're also friends.

[B]

I mean, that's crazy.

[D]

I just think putting her in the position of asking what they are is not.

[A]

I agree.

[D]

The right position for you. Like, I don't think.

[C]

I don't think we're there yet. Right.

[B]

Sorry. What are we. Don't use those words. Then just be like, where do you see this going? Do you want to have sex? Or do you want to like.

[D]

Or have like someone?

[A]

Imagine getting that. Imagine getting that from a girl getting that text. Where do you see this going?

[B]

No, not.

[D]

He's saying not text.

[B]

No, no, no. This is an in person with the club.

[C]

Where do you see us in by next week?

[B]

Yeah, but this.

[A]

Where do you feel?

[B]

This isn't their first date. This is. They've hung out 10 times and we've.

[C]

Hung out four or five times. That'.

[D]

That's a lot.

[B]

That's a lot, dude.

[D]

That's a lot. Okay, you should have. You should hire someone.

[A]

Here we go.

[D]

To come up.

[C]

Private investigator.

[A]

David will do it.

[D]

You just have someone come up to.

[B]

You and make it awkward.

[D]

Oh my God, you guys are so cute. Are you guys dating?

[C]

Ilya did that.

[D]

He did?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

What did he say?

[C]

He said, this is gonna sound good. Well, Ilya came up to us and he said. He was like. He's like, wow, you're really tall. You guys would make a really good couple.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And then, and then it was really awkward because like he came out of fucking nowhere.

[D]

But what did he.

[C]

And then he. And then he said, you're really tall.

[B]

He was really being jealous.

[C]

He was like. Something like, huh, we're not a couple, but whoever will be will be very lucky. Or something like that. Something like that. I don't remember exactly.

[B]

Naveen's mouth is wide open right now. Her chest dropped.

[D]

Wait, that's not.

[B]

I don't read that as horrible. I don't read it. I don't know. It's pretty neutral.

[C]

I think it's neutral. I guess it's neutral.

[B]

I don't Think that gives me any answer?

[C]

I mean, I don't think he was gonna be like, yeah, we're a couple.

[B]

But like, that's the moment where you like, how do you not like, where like, do you just panic? I just don't.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

How do you not go? How does that conversation not like, be like. How does that not blossom into something? That's what I'm so confused about. You're 30 years old. Like, how can you not just be like.

[C]

I just avoid, like, conversations like that. I just need to.

[B]

You're so good, dude. If I was like, you need to fire Taylor today, you would be like, happily not, not, not Taylor. But like, you love conversation.

[D]

Taylor's like listening to this and she's like, right out the door probably. She's like, huh?

[B]

No, no, no, no. Taylor will never, ever, ever, ever, ever get fired. She's the best. Natalie would go 10 years before Taylor. But that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying you love to have those hard hitting conversations in like, business. So how on earth are you so scared of this?

[C]

Because, like, being emotional makes me extremely uncomfortable.

[B]

Oh, it's your black heart. I totally forgot.

[D]

That's why I would say you, because then you're confronting that and I think that would be stronger.

[C]

This is a really long. How long have you been talking about this?

[B]

We should just call this guy.

[D]

Yeah, you should call in.

[B]

Can we just call him on the pod?

[C]

No, no, no, he doesn't. He's like, not online.

[B]

Amazing. He'll never know. We wouldn't even say it's a pod.

[C]

We just. Surprised.

[B]

It's just like really calm.

[A]

I understand where you're sitting, Natalie.

[C]

That's really, really hard to read.

[A]

He needs to step up or get out.

[B]

No, you got to talk to this guy. I'd love to hear people's opinions about this. Please, please DM me.

[C]

Yeah, and tell me, please DM me. Let me know what to do.

[A]

Yeah, leave a comment. Let us know who's right.

[B]

I think there's a world.

[C]

Tell me if I'm a freak and I should say no.

[B]

I think there's a world in which I think Naveen's right.

[D]

Wait, I also think David's right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, you do?

[B]

I'm not. Yeah, I think there's like a blend of everything that was.

[C]

Guys, if you knew all the details, like, this is just more than like an hour long podcast. But there's like so much to this that makes no sense and makes. Makes it so complicated. Where I don't feel like.

[B]

I don't understand what that means.

[A]

If I had to guess.

[B]

If I had a guess. It's a conversation.

[C]

Because I also just don't want to. Like, if he just wants to be friends, I don't want it. Like, we have so many mutual friends. Like, I don't want.

[B]

But just say that.

[C]

Just say that.

[B]

Just like, it's not going to ruin it.

[C]

I just don't want to look like a loser.

[B]

You haven't even had sex with him. So it's not like. It's like.

[C]

That's why I even feel like more of a freak. I'm like, why do I. Like, why am I so attached to this person?

[A]

Well, you like him.

[B]

You got. Dude, you got to talk to this guy. I'm sorry. How can you talk to him for so long?

[A]

Dude.

[B]

If I sat at a party with a girl for over 30 minutes. But I love 40th minute and I'm like, what is this? I give that much energy to a person that you've given this guy.

[C]

But you're like. You're a weirdo.

[B]

I'd pull up a map of the United States and be like, we could live here. We could live here. The schools are good here.

[A]

Can we play out Naveen's scenario? He texts her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you said, don't text back.

[D]

I do want to change my answer though, because I feel now having Natalie said a few more things about it. Now I feel like you should talk to him. Because I think that's good for you. Because I think you're just being really avoidant. And then you will be like, friends forever.

[B]

I know exactly what to do. I know exactly. We send him this pod. No, no, no. We sent it to him. It's over. Link. I think it'll be if I got.

[C]

This girl is a fucking weirdo.

[B]

Or he'll be like, finally.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, this is really cool. Yes. I love you. I love hanging out with you. I sat next to you at a club for three hours.

[C]

Yeah, but then if he doesn't say that, then I'm gonna be sad.

[B]

But then you'll know.

[A]

Yeah, true.

[D]

And you can go on other dates with other people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You gotta figure this out. You're like in like this random stalemate.

[C]

Yeah, I am. Well, it's also. Whatever. It's unusual.

[B]

Incredible. Well, guys, I definitely think that's all the time we have for you. I don't know how much Natalie I can take.

[C]

Sorry, guys.

[B]

Sorry, everybody.

[C]

I really took up a lot of time.

[B]

Maybe we'll do another Friday episode that.

[C]

I won't be on.

[B]

We'll do a Friday unless Natalie. No, but let us know. I'm super curious.

[C]

Me too. Please help.

[B]

I think there's. Wow. This was a very relationship based episode. Wow. Also have not been in a relationship for like six, seven years, so I feel like I'm the worst guy to ask about anything. But yeah. Glad we could all give input on this.

[C]

Thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

[B]

All right, we'll see you guys later. Bye.