Sorry to Let Everyone Down

Summary

VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash: Episode Summary - "Sorry to Let Everyone Down"

Release Date: August 5, 2025

In the "Sorry to Let Everyone Down" episode of VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash, co-hosts David Dobrik and Jason Nash delve into a variety of topics ranging from their latest entrepreneurial ventures to intriguing discussions on pop culture and conspiracy theories. This episode offers listeners a behind-the-scenes look into their dynamic relationship, personal experiences, and reflections on contemporary issues.

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1. Waivers Chips Launch at It's Sugar

Jason Nash kicks off the episode by sharing his experiences surrounding the launch of Waivers chips at It's Sugar, a popular candy store chain.

• Jason Nash [01:30]: "We launched our chips in 130 locations in It's Sugar."

Jason describes setting up a pop-up event without the usual self-promotion, leading to an organic and successful launch.

• Jason Nash [01:50]: "It was the first time I haven't promoted anything. I just kind of showed up. I felt like a rock star."

Despite initial reservations about having his candid photos used extensively in promotional campaigns, Jason reflects positively on the event's success.

• Jason Nash [03:26]: "The launch went great. Go get our new chips at It's Sugar."

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2. Playing Pickleball and Interactions with High School Teacher

Shifting gears, Jason recounts his leisure time spent playing pickleball with his high school teacher, Killinger.

• Jason Nash [04:16]: "I went to play pickleball at Lifetime with Killinger."

This segment highlights Jason's ability to maintain meaningful relationships and his enthusiasm for staying active.

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3. NASA, Time Travel, and Nikola Tesla Conspiracy Theories

The conversation takes a fascinating turn as the hosts delve into conspiracy theories linking Nikola Tesla and the Trump family, exploring the mythos surrounding Tesla's inventions and their alleged suppression by the government.

• Jason Nash [21:46]: "When he passed away in 1943, the FBI confiscated many of his documents."

They discuss claims that Tesla's discoveries, potentially related to time travel and wireless energy, were either destroyed or hidden, with connections drawn to Baron Trump and John G. Trump—a relative of Donald Trump who reviewed Tesla's papers.

• Jason Nash [22:07]: "John G. Trump did review Tesla's papers, but no evidence was found of any secret inventions."

The duo critically examines the plausibility of these theories, questioning the motives and mechanisms behind such alleged cover-ups.

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4. The Revival of Vine and Influence of Social Media Platforms

Natalie Mariduena introduces a discussion about the potential revival of Vine, highlighting Elon Musk's tweets about restoring old videos.

• Natalie Mariduena [13:39]: "They're bringing Vine back."

Jason expresses skepticism about the feasibility and relevance of reviving Vine in the current social media landscape dominated by platforms like TikTok and Instagram Reels.

• Jason Nash [14:03]: "We always had different structure for the pod. If we just weren't fucking teed up like that."

They contrast the creative structures of different platforms, emphasizing the dynamic nature of TikTok's algorithm compared to the more static feel of Instagram Reels.

• Jason Nash [15:14]: "TikTok just feels like it's keeping you on the app for longer, which I really like."

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5. Reflections on Filmmaking and Creative Industry Dynamics

The hosts transition into a discussion about the current state of the filmmaking industry, sharing concerns about the scarcity of new creative minds and the impact of social media on traditional content creation.

• Jason Nash [41:16]: "It's really hard to give advice to somebody for anything. The only advice is, like, you just gotta, blindly pursue it."

Natalie and Jason lament the shift from long-term creative projects to the rapid content cycles of platforms like TikTok, pondering the future of traditional filmmaking.

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6. Personal Anecdotes and Friendships

Towards the end of the episode, personal stories surface, including Jason's reflections on his friendship with Ilia and the dynamics of moving out and gaining independence.

• Jason Nash [43:55]: "He just wants his own place."

The conversation touches upon societal pressures related to adulthood and living arrangements, emphasizing the importance of personal choice and support among friends.

• Jason Nash [46:31]: "I think society puts very specific rules on getting your own place, but what's the point? Let's just hang out."

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7. Pop Culture Insights: Billy Joel and Iconic Movie Lines

Natalie shares her experience watching the Billy Joel documentary, marveling at the spontaneity behind some of his creative processes.

• Natalie Mariduena [36:22]: "Billy Joel starts to whistle. That's so crazy."

They also discuss iconic movie lines, such as Arnold Schwarzenegger's "I'll be back" from The Terminator, exploring how such lines become ingrained in popular culture.

• Jason Nash [37:34]: "He was like, I'm gonna say it like James Cameron, and it became one of the biggest lines of all time."

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8. Closing Remarks and Health Updates

As the episode wraps up, Jason addresses Natalie's absence due to pneumonia, adding a personal touch to the conversation.

• Jason Nash [49:18]: "Natalie's pneumonia. That's why she wasn't here."

They conclude with light-hearted banter and plans for future episodes, maintaining their signature humorous rapport.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Nash [01:50]: "It was the first time I haven't promoted anything. I just kind of showed up. I felt like a rock star."

• Jason Nash [21:46]: "When he passed away in 1943, the FBI confiscated many of his documents."

• Jason Nash [15:14]: "TikTok just feels like it's keeping you on the app for longer, which I really like."

• Jason Nash [37:34]: "He was like, I'm gonna say it like James Cameron, and it became one of the biggest lines of all time."

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This episode of VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash offers a rich blend of entrepreneurial insights, personal anecdotes, and engaging discussions on cultural phenomena. Whether you're interested in the behind-the-scenes of launching a new product, the interplay between social media and traditional media, or just looking for some entertaining banter, "Sorry to Let Everyone Down" provides a comprehensive and enjoyable listen.

Transcript

[David Dobrik]

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[Jason Nash]

Views? What's up guys? Welcome back to Views. We are back with another podcast. I am back from Lollapalooza. The Molly is wearing off and I am back on the pod. A little sadder than normal. No, no, no, I'm kidding. Didn't do Molly. Didn't even really go well. I didn't go to the festival at all.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You didn't?

[Jason Nash]

No.

[Natalie Mariduena]

So what is the. What is the point of going? Everyone asked me, why are you going to Lollapalooza? But. And then I thought about you and I was like, well, he. I Don goes to the festival. What's the point of that?

[Jason Nash]

We had to do. Well, we launched Waivers.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Waivers, Right. You did waivers.

[Jason Nash]

We launched our chips in 130 locations in it sugar.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Incredible.

[Jason Nash]

So we did a little pop up at Its Sugar. It went great.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It Sugar is the restaurant or it's the. The candy Store.

[Jason Nash]

It's the candy store.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. Got it. Got it.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, yeah. And it was really cool because I was like, it's the first time I haven't like promoted anything.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And I just kind of showed up. I felt like a rock star.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, great.

[Jason Nash]

Because there was people already there.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Nash]

It was like a David event. But like, I didn't. I didn't put on my Insta story and we like sold out the tickets or whatever. So I was like, fuck yeah. Felt really cool. People were really nice. The launch went great. Go get our new chips at all that Sugars. That's. Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I saw an Instagram video of you at waivers and you got behind the DJ booth and you took your right hand and there was just one moment that you were just like. You kind of like, just Pushed it forward like you were shooting a basket. I wasn't sure what you were doing. I don't know if you know what I mean.

[Jason Nash]

No, I was really embarrassed. They made me do a little speech, and the CEO of it, Sugar was there, and I was telling, like, my waivers team. I was like, listen, no one wants a speech during a party. And I was, like, really scared that the CEO, like, wouldn't understand that. And the CEO comes up to me and goes, I'm gonna keep this shit really short. And I was like, fuck, yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Great.

[Jason Nash]

And he killed it. It was like. He said like, 10 words. And I was like, this is fucking incredible. And then I said three more words and it was back to the regular scheduled programming. So he was incredible. The team was amazing. It went great.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Great.

[Jason Nash]

I got to play Pickle. I ran pickleball.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Can you buy waivers? And it's Sugar?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. What do you mean? Why do you think we were fucking there?

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't know. It didn't sound like, okay, I got. Oh, that's fun. I've been to It's Sugar. You go in there and there's all kinds of wild things in there you can buy.

[Jason Nash]

Like, what do you think we were launching?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, I wasn't sure. I was like, I thought it was just going in grocery stores, but I know it's Sugar.

[Jason Nash]

It's going to grocery stores, too. But it's Sugar is our first store that we're going. That we're into. So we're going to roll out the launch at other stores in the coming weeks.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Did you get any candy while you were there?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, Candy was fucking unlimited. Shit was wild.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Did you get sushi candy?

[Jason Nash]

I went with my hometown friends Mike and Nick.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

To its Sugar. And I fucking hate. First of all, we use these. Like, the waivers team uses these pictures of me to promote the chips that we just took at Dough Bricks. And I thought it was, like, going to be used internally. So, like, I didn't, like, get a haircut or anything. I didn't, like. I just look like I'm. I fucking rolled over and I'm sick. Like, the pictures are horrible, right? But they've been using it for every campaign possible.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

So it was, like, blasted all over. It's Sugar as pictures of me. And I was so pissed. I was like, please stop using pictures of me. Like, just fucking have the product there. And Mike and Nick went around. They knew that I hated it. Mike and Nick, while I was, like, taking photos of everybody, went around and took pictures with every version of Me all around the store. There was even. There was even a photo of me where my face was removed. And you could put your head into, like, my. My fucking body.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right.

[Jason Nash]

So, yeah, so that was a lot. But other than that, everything went well.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And then what would you do? Just go back to the hotel and chill?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Did you go to dinner?

[Jason Nash]

No, no, no. I went to Dudes right before, but we went to. So right when I landed, I went to. I had a real, like, Vern Hills fucking. Real Vern Hills day. Right when I landed. My buddy Darren picked me up. Incredible guy. He was my, like, tennis partner in high school. He picked me up. I went to go play with my high school teacher. I went to go play pickleball at Lifetime with Killinger. First of all, I was uploading Instagram stories from Vernon Hills this entire weekend, and everyone's like, can't wait to hear about this for 45 minutes. So I'm gonna keep this short. I know, I know. No, it was really funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, I want to hear about it.

[Jason Nash]

So I played with Killinger. Killing.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Tell everybody about Lifetime. Lifetime is incredible.

[Jason Nash]

Well, yeah, it's just fucking.

[Natalie Mariduena]

They don't have it everywhere, though.

[Jason Nash]

No, it's like, in Boston. It's the best gym ever. I don't even know explain it. But Killinger came and brought me a book for my birthday, and it was a book about how we landed on the moon. Because he listens to the pod, I guess, and he's. And in it said, read a fucking book. Love Killinger. And I think the book is about landing on the moon. And I obviously didn't read it. I know it has something to do with it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Sure. Why would you read it?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, why would I read it?

[Natalie Mariduena]

You have your own thoughts.

[Jason Nash]

So Kill. Yeah, I'm my own person, so Killinger is very. My high school teacher is very adamant that we did land on the moon. And then same time, NASA also Instagrammed that they're. Did you see that?

[Natalie Mariduena]

No.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, they posted on Instagram that they're going back.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Going back to the moon.

[Jason Nash]

They posted a picture of the feet on the moon.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And the caption was, we're going back.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, like a movie.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like a. Like a Part two.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. Like, we're going back in fucking.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What does that mean?

[Jason Nash]

I don't know. I don't think they're. I think they were going to try to go there for the first time. Like, going back where? To Warner Brothers. To film another scene of them walking.

[Natalie Mariduena]

On the moon on a green ground.

[Jason Nash]

And then I. And then I. Like a, quote, Instagram story dude or whatever, And I was like, oh, my God, they listen to the podcast. And then NASA liked my Instagram story.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Really?

[Jason Nash]

Yes. So then I DMed them and I was like, can I come up with you guys? So I'm waiting on a response back from NASA. I knew I was gonna get ghosted right there.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Because they're not actually going and they know that I'd put holes in it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They have to take you. So they.

[Jason Nash]

I'm the only proof.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

I'm the only connection to the non believers right now.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Would you go?

[Jason Nash]

Of course you would.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What if you had to train for, like, nine months?

[Jason Nash]

The G Force thing would be really, really tough for me. Like, I feel like you have to be put in, like, a G Force machine. I am, like, so easily. Like, if I was on a fucking rocky boat, I'd start puking. So I don't know how a spaceship.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I know a bunch of influencers did that. And I heard someone told me they got really sick doing that.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, I mean, you, like, you pass. You pass out for a couple seconds. No, no, no. Oh, no, no. It was a liquid death brand deal.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

We didn't end up doing it. No, no, it was you.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You get to go to space for 10 minutes or something.

[Jason Nash]

No, it was. You got to go into, like, a fool. Like, not a formula car. What the fuck is it?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Private jet.

[Jason Nash]

A fighter jet.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Fighter jet.

[Jason Nash]

And they just, like, spin you around and shit.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No gravity.

[Jason Nash]

No, no, that's something else.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, it's something else.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. But, yeah, so the gravity there is pretty insane. So, yeah, so now I'm in talks with NASA. And by in talks, I mean they liked one story and I am currently waiting for a response. And then. Yeah. And then a lot of people. This is where I know I'm going to disappoint a lot of people. So I just want to get it out immediately. At the beginning of the podcast, every time I went out or every time there was any girls in my stories or anything, everyone assumed this was the threesome that was happening. And if you don't listen to the pods. There was this girl that called in, basically what was. How do I explain it?

[Natalie Mariduena]

She offered a trouble with you?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, she offered to have a trouble threesome. Yeah, whatever. When I got to Chicago, turns out she was from Lincolnshire, which is the town over from mine.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

So it's very easy. Also, I went to liquid fusion in Lincolnshire, which is my favorite. I haven't been there. I haven't been there in three years.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And I'm like, ready to order? I'm like, I, I, I don't remember my order because I haven't been there in so long.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And I was just, like, staring at the menu, and the guy behind the counter goes, blueberry, peach, strawberry, extra tapioca. And I go, shut the up.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Wow. Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

I was like, no way. And he goes, of course, dude. Of course I remember. And I'm like, that's incredible. That was like. That was cool. That was my I made it moment. So I didn't have the threesome.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. I believe you.

[Jason Nash]

I wanted to.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Because you have other offers, too, in the email.

[Jason Nash]

Really? There's more?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. There's one guy that needs money.

[Jason Nash]

There's one guy.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, I need to pay. That one's up for you. But there's one guy that needs money, and he said he'll. He'll divulge everything on the podcast here with us if we can throw in some money.

[Jason Nash]

I don't like that. I don't like things. I like that I don't like things in exchange for money.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Really?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. I feel like that's weird.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay.

[Jason Nash]

Like, I'd rather like, you know, threesome out of love. Like, that's. I think that's what it is.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But here's the thing. In my head, I was like, okay, I kind of want to do it because it's a bit in the vlog.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But, like, I could make it a bit in the vlog. But then I was also like, I don't know if it's going to read as fun, cutesy as it. Like, in a. It's just going to be, like, weird, right?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just won't read that way. Not for you.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, no, it'll. It'll be, It'll be really strange. But the one thing I was excited.

[Natalie Mariduena]

About, if you were like, Johnny Sins. If you do it.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, yeah. Like, it would just be like, wait, wait, David's having, like. Yeah, it would be just, like, weird. Yeah, but like, for the sake of. Because I got so many DMs, everyone's like. And people at the club would come up to me and they'd be like, it's happening tonight. Right? Like, they saw me with girls and they just assumed it was them. I was like, no, no, no, this isn't, this isn't that situation. But, yeah, So I wanted to. But I. The one thing that made me excited about it is, like, if I was to do that, I thought about, like, how it would be. I'm like, I'd get an intim coordinator, which we just. Which for the first time, like, okay, so we did. We did this bit with Vardon in the vlogs where Vardon got his first kiss and we got an intimacy coordinator to come on set. And intimacy coordinator is incredible because so what she does, basically she makes sure everybody's like, comfortable on set.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

So like literally every. Every. She'll have a chat with the girls at the beginning. She'll be like, let me know what you're comfortable with. If you're comfortable with Vardon kissing you, hugging you, touching your shoulder, or none of it. And then she'll have the same conversation with Vardanne. She'd be like, tell me what you're comfortable with. And it's really sweet because it's like we'll be sitting with Vardon and then she'll come back and she'll be like. She'll be like, okay. I just spoke to the girls. They're all excited about having their first kiss with Vardanne. I was like, oh, my God. Like, everyone's excited. Like, everyone's down. And then she's like, there's 13 of them are down for anything. A little bit more than a peck. And then two of them just want a peck. And then, like, and then. And then she talks to Vardon and then, right. She's like, what are you comfortable with?

[Natalie Mariduena]

What did Vardan say?

[Jason Nash]

Baron's like, anything. I mean, obviously Vardon was stoked. We have to interview Vardot. We should get Var at the end of this pod because his, his perception, everything changed.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But anyway, yeah, because remember, right after, he was like so fired up.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. The car, the car ride home was like, we just unlocked like a new Vardon. He was like, dude, I'm ready to kiss everybody. And we were like, that's. He was being like a boy.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But instead of like using like weird slang, he just kept saying kiss.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

He's like, I'm ready to kiss every girl. So it was like still like 18 year old Vardon, but it was still.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I never heard him talk about girls up.

[Jason Nash]

Never, never, never, never, never. But yeah, I thought that would be. I thought that would be really fun, the whole threesome bit. But I don't know, I think it's a little bizarre. So I'm really sorry to disappoint the listeners that wanted to do it. I just. I felt like it was all right.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, I don't think you can do it.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, maybe one day. Yeah, but, like, if I. You know, for science, I should have. So, like, what would. NASA. NASA.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You'd be sitting here right now. What would you say? So, first I started kissing.

[Jason Nash]

What? Yeah, Sarah, I'd literally walk you through it. I don't know, but maybe. Jay, can I ask you something personal?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Of course.

[Jason Nash]

You ever buy tickets to anything?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, I have.

[Jason Nash]

Okay, good. Well, because I want to let you know about. I'm sure you've already heard about it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I can't imagine what you're gonna say.

[Jason Nash]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, my favorite topic.

[Jason Nash]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

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[Jason Nash]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

That would be sick.

[Jason Nash]

That would be a really cool way to like and incorporate seeking.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You'd have a lot of people here, though.

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[Natalie Mariduena]

Do you see? They're bringing vine back.

[Jason Nash]

What?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, Elon Musk tweeted. They found the archive and they're gonna put old videos back up, stuff like that. And maybe in October, they're bringing vine back. Yeah. Isn't that nuts?

[Jason Nash]

Like, for, like, every.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, like, as a platform. Fuck.

[Jason Nash]

I don't like that.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No.

[Jason Nash]

No.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Why not?

[Jason Nash]

You like that?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Sure. If it's a place to, like, really. You can.

[Jason Nash]

Like, as influences. We'd always. We always, like, every time a new platform. I remember, like, when we were on. I remember when Musical Ly got announced, like, we were all like, oh, my God, yes.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Stressful.

[Jason Nash]

We were like, fuck, we gotta post on another one.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And then. And then it actually turned out to be great.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Like, dude, you can't compete with TikTok. Like, you just.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I wonder.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, it's just not possible.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Um. I have to say, my TikTok experience is not that great. My really. Algorithms are so fucked.

[Jason Nash]

Mine's so, like, yesterday. Mine's so good because it's changing. Like, it changes so quickly.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It does.

[Jason Nash]

It doesn't. Like, it doesn't stay the same for over a day.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You get, like, current influencers and stuff. Like, people that are doing stuff. Because I don't.

[Jason Nash]

Well, it's just if you interact with it, I guess.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't know. But my reels is great.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, you're real.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I love reels. And Naveen was making fun of me. She's like, you watch reels? She's like, that's, like, so weird.

[Jason Nash]

No, that's what. That's what Alex is, too. There's definitely.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I love my reels.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. I've dabbled in reels, and it's not bad, but TikTok just feels. Instagram reels feels very, like, very narrowed down.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

To, like, what I want to watch.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And TikTok, like, once in a while will give me the opportunity to change my algorithm, which I like.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right.

[Jason Nash]

It'll, like, give me two videos I want.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right.

[Jason Nash]

And then it'll give me two I may want, and then I. And then it'll slowly evolve into a new thing, and that's how it'll keep me. Reels almost feels like it's like, here's another cavity. Or here's another cavity. Or, here's another cat video. Here's another cat dog. No. Okay, Back to cat. Back to cat. Back to Cat, where TikTok is, like. It's, like, keeping you on the app for longer, which I really like.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

So I've been loving, loving, loving, loving TikTok. Wait, what was I gonna say? Oh, you brought up Elon. So I. I was. I found this. I found this thing. I was watching a podcast, I think, with Tom Segura.

[Natalie Mariduena]

The Mexican Story. With the pilot. No, the guy that Lost focus. The guy that the aliens talked through him.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, go ahead.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, I didn't love that one.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Would you believe it?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I haven't had the time to research it, but the story is, basically, there's a guy, he's flying, and he flies somewhere really far, but there's no way he could have gotten over a body of water in three hours. Like, he's. Three hours. Right.

[Jason Nash]

So. So he takes off from an airport. Nearest body of water is three hours away.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And he basically passes out on the plane.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yep.

[Jason Nash]

For like, an hour. And his plane would have never gotten to the body of water. He doesn't have enough gas.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And he couldn't get there in the amount of time. And then he wakes up, like, an hour and a half later. He doesn't know if it's been days or whatever. He wakes up in the plane.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And he's like, what the fuck is happening? And. And he's. Now he realizes he's over the body water. So he has no idea how he's gotten to this body of water.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right.

[Jason Nash]

And then.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And then the aliens start to speak through him.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. Okay. So.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right.

[Jason Nash]

And then air traffic control is like, hey, who are. Who else are you in with? The. Like, who's in your plane? And he's like, no one. It's just me. And the air traffic control is like, okay, land, and we'll talk. And then he landed. And then the FBI or whatever that is in Mexico came, grabbed him, interrogated him, they tested him for drugs, came clean, and then they tested him to see if he was crazy and he wasn't crazy. And then they told him. They're like, okay, so this is what happened. And basically, aliens were speaking through him.

[Natalie Mariduena]

To the air traffic controllers. To the air traffic controllers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were basically saying, like, human beings are the only ones who use violence and war, and you guys are headed for a nuclear holocaust.

[Jason Nash]

That's what. Yeah, that's what was happening, right? Yeah. And they were basically. They were speaking in Spanish, and his voice was very robotic.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And they were, like, saying, you're hearing this. The aliens were saying, you're hearing this man's voice, but it's us using his body to communicate. Yeah. And then basically, the whole this. And this was. You can. You can Google this, and you could hear the actual audio recording from this guy speaking.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And we live in such a funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Time because it's like, Tom Segura is just a funny comedian. And how does he land there? You know, like, you Know what I mean? Like, 20 years ago, you'd only, like, hear that on, like, 60 Minutes or something, or like, some really known journalist. But it's Tom Segura. You're like, wait, this is the guy that I watch his Netflix specials.

[Jason Nash]

And basically, this. This transcription of this flight log has been, like, buried inside a library in Mexico. And you have to, like, go through all these stages to get accepted to listen to it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And this guy got access to it. I don't know. It just all feels like there's 8 billion people in the world. Right. What are the chances that one guy falls asleep in a plane, Augusta, wind swept, sweeps him somewhere, and he's having a dream and he's sleep talking. Do you know what I mean? Or he gets hit unconscious in the planer or something.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Sure.

[Jason Nash]

And he's. He's speaking out loud of this air traffic controller.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, it's funny what you believe and what you don't believe. Like, you don't believe we landed on the moon.

[Jason Nash]

Because. I'm just saying, if aliens are communicating, why are they using a random pilot that's flying over a random city in Mexico?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right. Why are they on your pickleball court right now?

[Jason Nash]

Why? Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Why aren't they landing and making a vlog with me?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

No, no, but, like, why aren't they in. This is very, like, US centric. But why aren't they landing in, you know, Times Square?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Like the Silver Surfer and Fantastic Four. Like, why aren't they making a big fucking spectacle? Mm. So, like, it's just like, it doesn't. I don't know, it doesn't really move.

[Natalie Mariduena]

The needle for you.

[Jason Nash]

No.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Got it. I believed it when I heard it.

[Jason Nash]

I was like, that's what you believe in, you fucking asshole.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't believe. I mean, I. I kind of believed it. I mean, some things I believe, some things I don't. I was like, well, it does sound plausible.

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[Jason Nash]

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[Jason Nash]

So you know Nikola Tesla.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

There's this whole conspiracy and if you've seen, if you've seen the movie the Prestige. Yeah, that's made by Christopher Nolan. It's explored in it. It's kind of interesting. Yeah, there's this whole conspiracy theory that Nikola Tesla made all these inventions and then either him or the government destroyed it because he believed that humanity wasn't ready for it yet. Yeah, like he discovered, you know, time travel, like teleportation, things like that. Wireless, wireless energy. Like he like all of this stuff he discovered and he's saying it wasn't true anyway. So they're saying this, this is a conspiracy theory. Some of this is true and some of this is conspiracy. So when he passed away in 1943, the FBI confiscated many of his documents according to conspiracy theory. One of the people reviewed these documents was John G. Trump, who was an actual relative of Donald Trump. Oh, Don G. Trump was a scientist and engineer who did indeed review some of Tesla's papers, but no evidence was found that he found any secret inventions. The theory also pulls in Baron Trump, Donald Trump's youngest son, with claims that he's a time traveler and that the Trump family used Tesla's hidden technology to gain wealth and power. This part of the theory mainly comes from a book from the 1800s that oddly enough has a character named Baron Trump, which conspiracy theorists.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, I have heard this like to.

[Jason Nash]

Reference as a weird coincidence. In reality, while John G. Trump did review Tesla's papers, there's no evidence of any hidden inventions or any time travel device found. So that's interesting. So there is actually a real guy that's related to Trump that got to go through Nikolai Tesla's papers. And that's factual. Right, and they're saying, I mean, that's what's interesting.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That you think Barron's a time traveler?

[Jason Nash]

No, that like whatever was found in those documents maybe helped the Trumps.

[Natalie Mariduena]

From what I know of the Trumps, is they his father made all this money with low income housing in New York. So he would like, he was like a slumlord.

[Jason Nash]

Okay, but what about the rest?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, his father gave him a big loan.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, but what about his father's father? Maybe he figured out time travel.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Maybe. And what went back in time and fixed things so he would have money. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, maybe that.

[Jason Nash]

Did you see that joke? There's. There's a TikTok of this guy who went back. It's a TikTok of this guy who went back and killed baby Hitler.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I saw that.

[Jason Nash]

So funny. I don't know why no one thought of that.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But so good. I forgot the joke. But I remember loving it.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. What was it like?

[Natalie Mariduena]

He's on a job interview.

[Jason Nash]

He's on a job interview and he. And in the interview is written that he killed this baby.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But no one knows who Hitler is because he killed him. And the job interviewer is like, we can't hire you. Everything seems to be great. But it says you strangled this baby and you. You stomped his head in. Like, why would you do this to the kid? And the guy's like, because it's Hitler. And the Japanese, like, who's Hitler? Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And then there's a moment where the eye goes. Oh.

[Jason Nash]

That'S really funny. That is. That is really interesting.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Do you watch the Billy Joel doc?

[Jason Nash]

The what?

[Natalie Mariduena]

The Billy Joel doc.

[Jason Nash]

No. Did he also has anything to do with time travel?

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, I just. I just thought of you. I thought you would like it because you like that song Vienna. It was so good.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, really?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. It's crazy. He's such a good.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, I'm definitely down a little.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Watch it.

[Jason Nash]

Does he talk about the song Vienna?

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't know. I've only watched the first one yet. It wasn't in the first part, but I think the second one I'm hoping, but just so crazy. His whole run was just like. He was just so beaten down, like no one gave him a chance. He played like his music was so obtuse and so like. And he was such a great performer. And then it just took him so long to make it and it's just. I was like crying watching it. It was awesome.

[Jason Nash]

Right? What was the song that got him through?

[Natalie Mariduena]

The Stranger was the album that got him through, which has Vienna.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And has like Piano Man.

[Jason Nash]

What's that Piano man on there?

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, Piano man was earlier. You know, he doesn't get paid from Piano Man.

[Jason Nash]

Wait, what?

[Natalie Mariduena]

He doesn't get any money because he signed everything away to some guy and.

[Jason Nash]

What do you mean doesn't make any money?

[Natalie Mariduena]

He doesn't make any money on Piano Man. Like he. He signed it all away. Isn't that nuts? Or for like 10 years or something? Maybe he does now, but. But so during that time when Piano Man Was, like, kind of a hit. He wasn't making any money on it because some. Some other guy owned it. He wrote, gave away all his publishing, gave away everything.

[Jason Nash]

Wow. So he's, like, that desperate to, like, find something that he, like, signed over everything. Yeah, that is. That's. That seems like that's, like a reoccurring thing with, like, artists back in the day.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. And then there's this one really cool moment where, like, he's, like, opening for all these big bands, and he's, like, doing. They play better than all the bands, but they can't sell any records. They're not making any money. And they were like, fuck, it's gonna come to an end. Like, we can't do it. We can't afford to tour anymore. Blah, blah, blah, blah. But he did have a small segment of fans in New York. He had New York fans. And so he. They. They set up three nights in Carnegie hall, and he sold it out with just, like, New York people. The people that knew him, you know.

[Jason Nash]

You tell me he was a struggling artist, but he sold out Carnegie hall three times.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But I mean, like, selling out Carnegie hall is not.

[Jason Nash]

What is that?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Because I think it's like, three. 3,000 people. 4,000 people.

[Jason Nash]

Okay. That's still pretty impressive.

[Natalie Mariduena]

In the audience was a producer who saw it and said, okay, I'll. I'll make your next album. And that was his big thing. He could. He didn't. He never found a producer. And that producer made, like, scenes from an Italian restaurant. He made the Stranger, basically. It was like, it's so fucking good. He's so talented.

[Jason Nash]

How much do you think, like, when it comes to an artist like that, like, how much of it is lucky?

[Natalie Mariduena]

None of it.

[Jason Nash]

You're fucking crazy.

[Natalie Mariduena]

None of it's luck, David. Not Billy Joel.

[Jason Nash]

You're fucking insane, brother.

[Natalie Mariduena]

He fucking went at it for, like, 15 years with nothing happening. And he was so talented, but I think he.

[Jason Nash]

Because he was. He had to wait for that. Luck.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Luck meets preparation. What's the phrase? We've been over this before, dude.

[Jason Nash]

How do we not know this one? Luck meets preparation. Opportunity. Preparation.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Opportunity.

[Jason Nash]

Preparation. When you say preparation, all I think about is Preparation H, which is my hammer cream.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But, yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't think it's luck. Do you think your success was luck? I don't think it was for sure.

[Jason Nash]

Like, I think.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I think it's, like, so.

[Jason Nash]

But you need luck. I think. I think it's, like. I think it's blindly being. I think you have to pursue something like a maniac.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And you have to do it enough till that moment hits.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Where you're. Where you can. Where you're like, fuck, here it is. I've got. I got the lightning now. I should make something of it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Sure.

[Jason Nash]

You know, I mean, and I think a lot of people give up before they get the luck, and I.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That moment is luck.

[Jason Nash]

Yes.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But. But yes. Yes. I think there's still talent. Like. Like, that's why it's, like, when you listen to, like, it's just. I don't know, it's really hard to give advice to somebody for anything. Like, even if they want to be an artist or if they want to be a YouTuber or they want to be an actor, because it's like, it's all so different. I think the only advice is, like, you just gotta, like, blindly. It's almost like you should even be asking for advice.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

It almost feels like if you need advice, you already don't want it bad enough. Like, it should be like, you can't. Like, you don't give a fuck. You don't give a fuck if, like, you're homeless for the next 20 years.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I have some guys over my house today that helped me film skits, and they're like, one's like 21. One's 24. And they're really good. They're really great guys. And they're very funny. They were asking me about you. They were like. They were like, yo, man. He's like. I was, like, watching David's videos. He's like, and I'm 21 right now. And I'm like. He was, like, 19 when he was doing all that. And I was like, yeah. And I was like. I never seen anybody be so just into what he was doing. And I'm like.

[Jason Nash]

He was like, well, that was because I got. That was because I literally. I was fortunate enough to, like, run into luck. And I was like, well, no. Yeah. I mean, why?

[Natalie Mariduena]

You were lucky because you.

[Jason Nash]

Vine, dude.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Vine was making any money off Vine.

[Jason Nash]

It was my fucking. It was my ticket to, like, everything. It was my. It was j. I moved to Los Angeles, the City of Lights, with, like.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Because of Vine.

[Jason Nash]

With, like, an actual. Like, that's fair in my head. A valid reason. And that was so fucking lucky.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And that was all because of, like, like, the people. Yeah. I mean, I was.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And then you got to meet Zane and Heath, be friends with them. And that helped you.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. I got to meet, like, a great group of Friends.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And like. Yeah. It's like brick by brick. And then I think the luck, you know, I think there's always luck there, like as you're making the videos. But then I think you start making your own luck like that. I think it's like you're just working at it so hard.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

You're finally given the opportunity and things start coming to you because you start, like, forming your own gravity.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But like, I said this on the podcast million times, but, like, every time my parents were like, you got to work hard. I'd be like, what the fuck does that mean? Like, how do you work hard? And then the second I got Vine, I was like, I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go to la. I gotta go. King, why do you.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What do you. Where do you think you got that internal motor? Because I see it with. With Wyatt. I'm really impressed with Wyatt. And you had the same thing, but when I was 19, I wasn't like that.

[Jason Nash]

Well, what do you mean internal motor?

[Natalie Mariduena]

The internal, like what you just said. I got to go, I got to go. I got to see what King Bach is doing.

[Jason Nash]

Well, because you just like, you want something so bad, right? I just look so obvious. Why? Because I loved it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, I like, I love movies to entertain.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. I love movies. I love making people laugh.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

There's literally nothing, like, there's nothing more than I love. Like, I could not care for any schoolwork. I just, like, I would have also been fine in like, a regular job.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But I know I wouldn't have worked.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, I would have made it.

[Jason Nash]

Uh huh.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You think you would have made it in a regular job?

[Jason Nash]

Well, I've always had this mindset that, like, whatever job I had, I would not work at it. Like, I'd be like, okay, like, if I don't make it in L. A. I'm going to find the best in any kind of job. Like what? Like, I was ready to be an Uber driver because this one Uber, like, kind of first started to kick off. I was like. And I. And I was damn sure gonna be an annoying Uber driver and like, talk everyone's ear off. But like, even when I was a waiter at the retirement home, I loved it because, like, I got to make the people laugh that I was serving. And like, I don't know how it came off. I don't know if that was just me having fun and they were annoyed or what, but, like, I was having such a good time.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Was there a moment where you said to yourself, I'm Gonna. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna make people laugh. I'm gonna be an entertainer or YouTuber. Was there?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. But like, I'd always say, like. Like, I'd always say it, like, in my own head, like, because I didn't want to jinx it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, sure, you didn't have to say it out loud, but, I mean, do you say it to yourself? Like, for me, I used to watch sports broadcasters, and I would be like, I'm going to do that. Like, I'm going to do that when I grow up. That's all I want to do is like. And then, unfortunately, I didn't like sports anymore. But. But I remember watching SportsCenter when SportsCenter came out. I was like, oh, my God, these guys are funny. And they're doing sports. I can't believe these two worlds are.

[Jason Nash]

Coming together kind of. Well, all I can think about is the three shooting. The three shooting stars I saw in Ohio.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, what was that?

[Jason Nash]

I've told you about. This is like. There was. There was one time my parents woke me up at like, 2:00am and they were shooting stars.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And I saw three of them. Yeah. And I made three wishes, and one was to be a professional athlete. Tennis at the time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. One was to be very wealthy, and the other was to be, like, an actor. Entertainer.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Two out of three.

[Jason Nash]

No, I'm pretty good at pickleball. But, like. Yeah. So I guess in that way I.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Was like, did you watch Saturday Night Live? Did you go like, oh, I'd be on Saturday Night Live.

[Jason Nash]

I watched, like. I watched Lonely Island a lot. I watch, like, the skits and stuff.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But, like, if I could still be anything, the one thing that I'm, like, so connected to is, like, musicians. I'm so.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I know what you mean.

[Jason Nash]

Because there's, like, there's. It's fun to, like, make funny stuff that you find funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But it's also funnier to do another thing and then also make funny stuff on top of it. Do you know what I mean?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Like, the coolest is to be a rock star.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But then you're funny. Like, that's fucking sick. Like, who like that combination?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Who's funny in a rock star?

[Jason Nash]

I don't know what's like.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I'm trying to find, like, Tyler the creator is funny.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, Tyler Creator is really funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, I love that Mac DeMarco. He's funny.

[Jason Nash]

Don't know who Mac DeMarco is.

[Natalie Mariduena]

He's like a guitarist.

[Jason Nash]

But I Love the combination of two. And I just like, like, I don't know. I like, I love when tennis players are funny too.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Who's like, who's funny? Tennis player.

[Jason Nash]

Like, Andy Murray's like, really dry. Yeah. Nick Kyrgios is funny. Like, I like their interviews because it's like, damn. You don't expect them to be funny because they're. Their main job is being tennis. And like, I fucking love that.

[Natalie Mariduena]

When an athlete's funny, people go nuts. I can't believe it. Shaq is so funny. And they're like, oh, my God.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. That fucking show that Shaq is on with. I don't know anything about basketball.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Good show.

[Jason Nash]

But it's with like those four guys.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Where they just like, review.

[Natalie Mariduena]

They host the night of NBA basketball.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

So they'll be like, tonight, so and so. And then the game will happen and then they have halftime and Charles Barkley and Shaq will go back and forth about the game and rib each other and.

[Jason Nash]

But it's like, quite. They look like they have the most creative freedom I've ever seen on any show. Like, even a late night host has more, like, structure.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Then like. Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You're not gonna tell Shaq not to say something.

[Jason Nash]

No, I know, but I just think that shows so fun because they're literally like, even what? I wonder, do you think people know about this on, like, late. Like, if you go on late night. The thing that I didn't know is like the pre interview process.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yes.

[Jason Nash]

Like when I got to go on Fallon, like, they call you two weeks before.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And they go, what do you want to talk about?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And then they prep you with all the questions, which is nice. So you're kind of ready. So like, like a lot of times if a comedian's going into a bit, they'll be like, okay, how do you want Jimmy to get you into this bit? And then Jimmy will be like, yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You adopted a dog recently, Donald.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. I hear you adopted a dog. And then the comedian will go, let me tell you about fucking dog. Adopting a dog. And the audience will be like, huh, Here we go.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. You're on an airplane recently, weren't you?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. Which is really cool. Like, imagine if we had that kind of structure for the pod. Like if we just weren't fucking teed up like that.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Sure.

[Jason Nash]

I think it's so cool.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But that's gone. Gone away. There used to be a show that Byron Allen would host and that's all he would do. He would just set people up. It was called comics unleashed. But they weren't unleashed at all. It was all fake and very, very set up.

[Jason Nash]

Like it was an interview show.

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, he would sit with four comics and then he'd be like, so David, I understand you had a problem with potato chips the other day. And then you'd go into this really detailed bit about potato chips that you'd worked on for years and years in the clubs. And we'd get laughs. And then he'd be like, so Brad, you don't like to wear socks? That's really funny stuff like that.

[Jason Nash]

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[Jason Nash]

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[Natalie Mariduena]

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[Jason Nash]

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Visit sodelicious dairy free.com but getting back to music, the one thing that still, still to this day that gets me more excited than anything, David, but gets me so fucking jazzed is I love when someone gives me like I've never.

[Jason Nash]

Heard you this passion. I'm so excited.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I love when I get like the behind the scenes of like one of my favorite songs.

[Jason Nash]

Oh yeah. I fucking love it. Oh yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like last night I was watching the Billy Joel doc and he has this song called the Stranger. And it's this piano. It's beautiful, beautiful piano. And then all of a sudden, Billy Joel starts to whistle. And he's like. And it's just like this whistling over piano. And I said to Naveen a couple days ago, I go, this guy's fucking unbelievable. Like, who would whistle over piano? Who would whistle? I said it to her, and she does. She's just like. She doesn't care about Billy Joel at all. I'm going on and on about Billy Joel. So we were watching the Doc last night, and it fucking lands on Billy Joel. And he goes, well, you know, on the Stranger.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, you've said it before you even saw that.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I said it before I said it. He goes, well, you know, on the Stranger, the whistling wasn't my idea. He goes, that was Phil Ramone's idea. He goes, I was sitting there, I was doing my thing, and I was, you know, kind of practicing, and I start whistling. So then I go to Phil, I go, so what kind of instruments should we use for the whistling? And Phil says, we're gonna use your whistling. He goes, you. He goes, we're just gonna let you whistle. And I was like, oh, that's crazy. So I fucking love that shit.

[Jason Nash]

That's really funny.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Or like, the. Like, the Kanye doc is great like that.

[Jason Nash]

Did you see where. Did you see where Arnold Schwarzenegger was talking about his famous line? No, he's talking about.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What's his famous line?

[Jason Nash]

I'll be back.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Nash]

In the Terminator.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I love that, too. So, well, how do you get that?

[Jason Nash]

Well, who is the director? Who is the director?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Cameron.

[Jason Nash]

Was it James Cameron?

[Natalie Mariduena]

I think so.

[Jason Nash]

So an interviewer was asking Arnold Schwarzenegger, and they were like, so did you come up with the line, I'll be back. And. And he goes, no. He goes. He goes, I hated it. He goes. He goes, I told James I want to. He told. He told us. I told James I'm so bad at accents. I told James that I want to say I will be back. Because it sounded more robotic. And then James said to me, are you the writer or am I the writer? And he's like, I don't. He's like, I don't ask you how to act because you act. And, like, James, like, told him off. He's like, you say, I will be back or I'll be back.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And. And then Archer goes, like, fine. So he said it like James Cameron. And it's really cool because. Completely. Completely credits James Cameron. Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

He's like, he's like fully like, I fucking hated the idea of I'll be back. I thought it was stupid. And then, and then he said the movie premiered in New York and he got out of the screening and Arnold Schwarzenegger ran into a fan. And the fan was like, can you say that line? Can you say, can you say I'll be back? And Arnold Schwarzenegger was like, I'll be back. And the fans like, no, no, no, say it like you said it in the movie. And then he goes, I'll be back. And then the fan goes, fuck yeah. And then he's like. From there on out, everywhere I went, people would ask me to repeat that line.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Damn.

[Jason Nash]

And it became one of the biggest lines of all time. And they thought nothing of that. That's so crazy to think nothing of that line. Like, the only thing that we have that's like equivalent to that now is like TikTok audios. Like TikTok audio is becoming like legendary. But like, that's so cool.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You wouldn't think it was a great line if you read it on the script, on the page.

[Jason Nash]

No, for sure.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And you wouldn't think maybe the Terminator was going to do anything, was even going to be a hit at all. No, that's the other thing. You go and you make movies and you don't. You don't really know.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, it's really sad.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I like that.

[Jason Nash]

Was it sad now that I feel like movies don't do that anymore?

[Natalie Mariduena]

We went to a premiere last night. I won't say what it was, but it was so depressing.

[Jason Nash]

Why?

[Natalie Mariduena]

It was just like, there's obviously no money for the premiere and it's just like Hollywood used to be grand and like fun. And it was like, wow, everyone's glitzy, everyone's dressed down, everyone's kind of depressed. You know what I mean?

[Jason Nash]

Well, it's just tough.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I mean, unless it's like, you know, Mission Impossible. I know they like have money for that or something, but like, you know, most movies.

[Jason Nash]

Poor Tom Cruise, man, trying to fucking save. He's one of the only. He fucking loves.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Wait, did you hear? He has a. He made a six hour film about how to make movies and he showed it to Glen Powell.

[Jason Nash]

Well, it's a course.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah, but he only shows it to his friends. You gotta get him to show it to you.

[Jason Nash]

No, no, no. He offered us this course when we were in London.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Did he?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I wanted to ask you about it.

[Jason Nash]

He gives us. He gave us. So in London, we went to go see him work on set, right? This man loves movies. Like, loves. Talk to us for, like, two hours. He's so pat. He does. He looks. I've said this on the podcast. I asked him the stupidest question ever. I said, what do you enjoy other than filmmaking? He goes. He goes, just this. I'm so stupid for asking him that. After, for an hour and a half, he talked about how much he loved it. I thought maybe there was something else, but obviously that's all he loves. But, yeah, yeah, he offered us this course, and I didn't have time. I had to fly out the next day. But, oh, yeah, it's like, you could.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Have taken it and watched it, you.

[Jason Nash]

Know, like, three or four of us. There was like seven of us. I went, three or four of us stayed. And for seven hours, you're in this, like, thing, and it's like. It's a. It's a whole video that he. It's about filmmaking from Tom Cruise, bro.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You gotta do that.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, I know, I know, I know. That was silly. I fucking. I had to go for another job. I felt bad.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Ooh, that would have been good.

[Jason Nash]

But.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But, yeah, he says he talks about, like, flying planes.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. There's not that many.

[Natalie Mariduena]

There's not cinematography.

[Jason Nash]

There's not many people like that left.

[Natalie Mariduena]

In movies or just in life?

[Jason Nash]

No, in movies.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Because it's like, I've, like. It's like. It doesn't feel like there's a new batch of creatives.

[Natalie Mariduena]

There are a lot of good movies coming out right now, though. I've heard. I heard Weapons is good. I heard Eddington is good.

[Jason Nash]

Really?

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

I'm just, like, worried that. Not worried that this is. What's happening is, like, we get a lot of new actors that are coming. Like, there's a new wave of actors. I see it. But, like, you don't get, like, the new creative minds. At least I don't see them. Because I think everyone is like, well, why make a screenplay when I can fucking make a TikTok about the one specific joke I want? Or, like, a channel or, like, you know, a YouTube series or, like. Like, I know it sounds silly, but, like, yeah, like, there's. Some of the funniest people are making TikToks, and it's like. And it's not. And, like, I genuinely think if TikTok was not around, there would be a lot of new movies being made that would be incredibly funny. But, like, people are a lot of funny people. I know people want to, like, talk down a lot of tiktokers.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right.

[Jason Nash]

But, like. And I'm not talking, like, the pop. The most popular tiktokers. Like, that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying, like, the dancers are the ones that are. I'm saying, like, the niche creatives, I.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Feel like, are focused on people that do funny TikToks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Nash]

I feel like they're like, well, they can make more, and it's that it's like an actual source of income than, like, shooting the shit with the film industry for, like, 10 years and hoping they get their break.

[Natalie Mariduena]

What's funny is when I see, like, film people that are on TikTok now and how differently they look at it than when I started. Started doing TikTok or something.

[Jason Nash]

It's fucking insane.

[Natalie Mariduena]

It's insane. They're like. And I remember, like, when I did it, when I started doing, like, Instagram and stuff, everybody was like, what the fuck are you doing? And I was like, this is what it's gonna be.

[Jason Nash]

No.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And it's the only thing I was ever right about.

[Jason Nash]

Oh.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Anyone ask you what. What. How are you doing after Ilya left?

[Jason Nash]

Well, Ilya officially moved out last night.

[Natalie Mariduena]

That's so sad.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. So I was in Illinois, and I was. I. His parents let me borrow his. Their car for when I'm in Illinois, so I got to see him for a little bit, and I was like, so what do you think about Ilya moving out and, like, getting his own place? And his dad and his mom, I shit you not, were like, it's so fucking stupid. They're like, why is he doing this? It makes no sense. And I'm like, thank you. And his mom's like, if you guys got into a fight, that would make sense. But that's. Yeah. And I'm like, totally. He's. And his dad's like, why is he paying for rent $4,000 somewhere when it could. Like, it really does. Doesn't make sense. It's a very Ilia way of looking at it. He just wants his own place.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Let's. For a second, let's put ourselves in Ilya's shoes. Let's put it. Because he's not here to defend himself. What could it be?

[Jason Nash]

Well, he just wants his own place.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

He wants to be his own person.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Wants to be his own person.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And there's nothing wrong with that.

[Jason Nash]

No, nothing wrong with it. But it's just like. Yeah.

[Natalie Mariduena]

But it felt like when I came in today, it felt a little empty here. I was like, oh, really?

[Jason Nash]

He's been working here all day. And I literally was like, dude, I thought you were leaving.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, he's still here. So he's here a lot?

[Jason Nash]

No, I think he's going to be here more.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, good.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, I think. And I'm excited now because I think he'll, like. When he's here, he'll be hanging out and he won't be, like, working.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right, Right.

[Jason Nash]

Which is good.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right, Right.

[Jason Nash]

And he's saying he's gonna have Taco Tuesday every night, which is gonna be nice. So he's.

[Natalie Mariduena]

We're gonna go Taco Tuesday every Tuesday.

[Jason Nash]

We're gonna go to his apartment.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah, it was really funny. We went to go visit his apartment, and Jason was like, he hasn't signed the lease yet. Right. And I'm like, no, no, no. I was lying to Jason because I wanted Jason. I kn. The apartment. It's. It's not in the best place.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Just the apartment's nice.

[Jason Nash]

The apartment's nice, but the specific street is on.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Is like, even some guy in the elevator was like, tell your friend to be careful.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yes. Like, someone did. So I got a little spooked because I was in the elevator and I was grilling him. I was like, what's this place?

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. And I know Jason's not close enough to Ilia to, like, say whatever he wants, so I lied to Jason. I was like, no, no, he doesn't sign the lease. You're totally good. So then we got into the apartment, and Jason's like, yeah, Ilya, I wouldn't do this. This is really dangerous. This place is really dangerous. There's people in the elevator. They told me that, like, to watch your back, it's just not good. And Jason's like, but you haven't signed the lease, right? So you're okay. And Ilya's like, no, no, no. I signed it for a year. And then Jason's like, dave, I feel like a fucking dick. And I was just laughing. No, he doesn't mind. I asked him. I was like, what are the chances that you'll move back? And he's like, there's probably a good chance.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

So, like, yeah, it's only a year. I think he should definitely try it. I'm like, totally. I used to be like, don't move, Ilya. But, like, I'm totally for it now. I think it's time for him to.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And what would happen if John moved out right now? Would you lose your shit?

[Jason Nash]

I'd lose my shit. I don't know, I also see, like. I also see adulthood. Like, okay, so I know this guy.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Who.

[Jason Nash]

Who's like, worth a serious B. Like a billion dollars. And it's gonna be worth more when he sells his company.

[Natalie Mariduena]

And.

[Jason Nash]

And he has a wife and kids.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Divorced now.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And lives with three of his best friends.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Right.

[Jason Nash]

Guy friends. Right. In a. In a fucking mansion.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Over 40.

[Jason Nash]

Like. Yeah. He's like, 55.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Okay. Oh, 55.

[Jason Nash]

Yeah. And it's like an A. It's like a $80 million home. It's fucking gorgeous. And he's like, I am living the best life possible.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I'm just.

[Jason Nash]

With my best friends. And we. So I think society.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Good.

[Jason Nash]

I think society puts, like, very specific rules on, like. And this just. Just to sound like I'm trying to get a Leo. Like, I'm trying to win him back. But I think society puts, like, weird pressures on, like, getting your own place, being your. Being your own adult.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But, like, I'm just like, what's the point? Like, I'm here. I'll pay for the rent. I'll pay for the mortgage. It's fucking. Let's hang out, let's do. We're doing it. You guys have helped me get here, so I'm going to help you pay for the mortgage. Let's just fucking hang out. We're already here. We've arrived.

[Natalie Mariduena]

If right now Alex and John moved out, what would you do? Not. Not because of any fight, just because, like, John and Julie want to get their own place and let's say Alex got a girlfriend. I, like, had to move back.

[Jason Nash]

Well, first of all, I think I'd find new roommates.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, you would? You move new people in?

[Jason Nash]

I have, like, a couple people that have hit me that want to move in that I think I'm close enough to that are, like, that I'm, like, considering.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

But I think I would, like, narrow down my girlfriend choice or search a little bit harder and maybe what, like, look for a girlfriend even quicker. Oh, yeah. And then, like, so that would put.

[Natalie Mariduena]

The fire under you to get a girlfriend and maybe.

[Jason Nash]

Maybe downsize. It was really funny the other day I. When I had my birthday.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

I had. It was Noah back. And this. This friend of mine who's an actress, like Noah, she. Yeah, I love Noah. She brought her friend over, and her friend is like. Like, I know this girl that's an actress. Like, I know her. Like, I know her. Like. Like, I know, like, somebody that you know in high school. Right. Like, you just see him from Time to time. And her friend who she brought to the party is like. She's like, david, I just want to say, I'm like, a big time pervert. No, on her. Look at me.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like, what?

[Jason Nash]

It was so funny. It was so funny. And she said it. She said it so confidently. She's like, I'm a big time. And it was. It was like. It was. There's no, like, explanation behind it. She just, like, said it like, Noah and the other girl would completely understand. And Noah looked at me like, why? And I'm like, it's. It's what we call our audience. He goes, what? And I go. I had to tell the girls, like, don't say that. Don't say that.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Like.

[Jason Nash]

We'Re called the cucumbers now, by the way. Guys, we've changed.

[Natalie Mariduena]

I don't think you're gonna lose.

[Jason Nash]

Perverse was season one. All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today. Thank you, guys, for listening.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

Thank you for everybody that contributed.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah. Natalie has pneumonia. That's why she wasn't here.

[Jason Nash]

What? Yeah, I know. I didn't want to say it.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Nash]

Oh, you want to tell people?

[Natalie Mariduena]

No, no.

[Jason Nash]

She'll be so embarrassed.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Why?

[Jason Nash]

No, I'm kidding. Natalie's pneumonia.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Yeah.

[Jason Nash]

And it's fucked up. It's fucked up, bro.

[Natalie Mariduena]

You've been riding her too hard. Ew. That came out wrong. You know what I mean? You guys have been going too hard.

[Jason Nash]

I have not been riding her.

[Natalie Mariduena]

Well, I don't know what you guys doing in your private life, but. But no, she Guys have been just. I mean, course she has.

[Jason Nash]

No, maybe she'll be back for the next one if we allow it. We'll see, right?

[Natalie Mariduena]

We don't want to get sick.

[Jason Nash]

I kind of want to keep my distance from her for a little bit, but. All right, we'll see you guys later. Bye.