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The Voices of Search Podcast is a proud member of the I Hear Everything Podcast network. Looking to launch or scale your podcast, I Hear Everything delivers podcast production, growth and monetization solutions that transform your words into profit. Ready to give your brand a voice then visit iheareverything.com I'm Jordan Cooney and
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joining me today is Carl Kleinschman, founder at Data Marketing Group, an 18 year SEO veteran focused on local SEO, large scale data systems and LLM optimization. Today we're talking about fan out analysis, local rank tracking and why LLM optimization is really about intent, not keywords. All right Carl, one mistake companies make with AI generated content thinking they're the
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best prompters out there. I see people say like I have this amazing content delivery system, it's eight stages long and I have perfected every single prompt. That might work for now and it might work for the next month. But people that write really good unique content with unique data, unique perspectives and unique expertise in the long run are going to beat you.
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A huge thank you to Carl Kleinschmitt, Founder at Data Marketing Group for joining us. If you'd like to contact Carl, you can find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show Notes or on the voicesofsearch.com you can also visit his company website Carlk AI. If you haven't subscribed yet and want a daily stream of SEO and content marketing knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in Podcast app or on YouTube and we'll be in your feed every week. Okay, that's all for today, but until next time, remember the answers are always in the data.
Title: A big mistake companies make with AI-generated content
Podcast: Voices of Search
Host: Jordan Cooney
Guest: Carl Kleinschman, Founder at Data Marketing Group
Date: June 4, 2026
This episode delves into common pitfalls companies face when leveraging AI-generated content for SEO. Host Jordan Cooney and guest Carl Kleinschman, an SEO veteran specializing in local SEO, large-scale data systems, and LLM (Large Language Model) optimization, provide a candid discussion about why unique expertise and intent-based strategies are critical to lasting SEO success.
Fan Out Analysis and Local Rank Tracking:
Carl references methods such as fan out analysis and tracking local rankings, crucial for advanced SEO but notes the conversation’s focus is on a broader mistake companies make with AI content.
(00:22)
LLM Optimization is About Intent, Not Keywords:
"LLM optimization is really about intent, not keywords."
(00:22)
This frames the discussion: Instead of focusing solely on keyword prompts, companies should prioritize understanding and addressing user intent.
Belief in Perfect Prompts:
Many companies believe their multi-step prompting systems are superior.
"I see people say like I have this amazing content delivery system, it's eight stages long and I have perfected every single prompt."
(00:50 – Carl Kleinschman)
Carl cautions this mindset is shortsighted:
"That might work for now and it might work for the next month. But people that write really good unique content with unique data, unique perspectives and unique expertise in the long run are going to beat you."
(00:58 – Carl Kleinschman)
Enduring Value of Human Expertise:
The key to sustainable SEO isn’t mechanical prompt perfection, but the consistent delivery of unique, expert-driven, data-supported content.
On the illusion of prompt mastery:
"People that write really good unique content with unique data, unique perspectives and unique expertise in the long run are going to beat you."
(00:58 – Carl Kleinschman)
On the shift in LLM optimization:
"LLM optimization is really about intent, not keywords."
(00:22 – Carl Kleinschman)
For more resources and to connect with Carl Kleinschman, visit his LinkedIn (as linked in the episode) or his company website (Carlk AI). To keep learning about evolving SEO and content strategies, subscribe to the Voices of Search Podcast.