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Mike Walruth
We're going to transition to our lightning round. So next lightning round, question toss up. You can only pick one.
Unnamed Guest
Okay.
Mike Walruth
Would you choose to optimize for Google's AI overviews or focus on other search environments? Apple, YouTube, TripAdvisor for visibility? Again, if you only had to pick one strategy other.
Unnamed Guest
Okay, this is, this is easy. You're already optimizing for Google's AI search environment, right? That, that AI, the AI overviews are. Until there's more information that says that they're not using their, their local search index to ground their answers on, on AI overviews, then you know, you're, you're, in a lot of ways you're already doing that and we know how to do that today. The rules may change, but you know, what's the benefit of the other is that not only are you impacting those experiences directly, but you're also impacting the aggregate, you know, the indexes of the established players.
Mike Walruth
By doing that, do you think the large established other players are going to continue to grow in market share over the next year?
Unnamed Guest
I do.
Mike Walruth
And is that just Google's lack of their ability to innovate and control market share?
Unnamed Guest
No, I think that, I mean, look, I think there's a lot of things going on. I think that market share picture may be federally imposed in some level. Right. Like we don't know what's going on with Chrome and we don't know what sort of, what legally could impact that. And I think there's a lot of players who clearly are interested in understanding what the opportunities are there. But more importantly, I just think consumers are promiscuous when it comes to kind of new experiences. And especially, you know, you know, the, the sort of, let's just, let's say the, the younger set of, of consumers, which is decades worth of, of market share. And so when, when you combine all that with the fact that they have this like really challenging kind of, you know, decision to make around magic experience versus monetized experience. I just see no scenario where this just reverts back TO Google owns 92% of everything and consumers aren't going anywhere else. And so you know what I'm telling every customer of ours is like, you shouldn't be questioning whether or not this is going to happen. We can argue about whether this means, you know, Google's not going to be a player. I think that's a ridiculous point of view. But they're not going to be a 92% player here. That's just not going to be the future that we live in.
Mike Walruth
I mean, there's a hugely underrepresented conversation right now in our industry, which is the life expectancy, search volume or discovery volume of a user and who's winning the biggest share. Right. You know, someone who's 13 today has a lot more searches ahead of them than someone who's 62.
Unnamed Guest
Yep.
Mike Walruth
And how you're winning that mind share is not a largely discussed topic right now in the industry.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah.
Mike Walruth
And that wraps up this episode of the Voices of Search podcast. A huge thank you to Mike Walruth from YEXT for joining us. If you'd like to contact Mike, you can find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show notes or at the voicesofsearch.com for more information about Yex, please visit Yext. Com. If you haven't subscribed yet and want a daily stream of SEO and content marketing knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in your podcast app or on YouTube and we'll bring you back to our feed. Okay, that's all for today and until next time. Remember, the answers are always in the data. Sam.
Voices of Search Podcast Summary Episode: Optimize For Google's AI Overviews Vs Focus On Other Search Environments? Release Date: May 21, 2025 Host: Jordan Cooney Guest: Mike Walruth, Yext
In the latest episode of the Voices of Search podcast, host Jordan Cooney engages in a compelling discussion with Mike Walruth from Yext. The episode delves into strategic decisions surrounding search engine optimization (SEO) in the age of artificial intelligence (AI) and explores whether businesses should prioritize optimizing for Google's AI overviews or diversify their efforts across other search platforms like Apple, YouTube, and TripAdvisor.
The conversation kicks off with a thought-provoking question posed by Mike Walruth:
Mike Walruth [00:48]: "Would you choose to optimize for Google's AI overviews or focus on other search environments like Apple, YouTube, TripAdvisor for visibility? If you only had to pick one strategy, which would you choose?"
An unnamed guest responds confidently, emphasizing the current dominance and integration of Google's AI in search optimization:
Unnamed Guest [01:03]: "You're already optimizing for Google's AI search environment, right? The AI overviews are integrated with their local search index. Until there's more information indicating otherwise, you're largely already doing that. We know how to optimize for it today, and while the rules may change, the alternative—focusing on other search environments—offers the benefit of impacting those experiences directly and influencing the indexes of established players."
This highlights the inherent challenge for businesses: whether to continue focusing on Google's expansive AI-driven search capabilities or to diversify their SEO strategies to capture visibility in other significant search platforms.
The discussion shifts to the broader landscape of search engine market share and the potential shifts anticipated in the near future. Mike Walruth probes the unnamed guest on this topic:
Mike Walruth [01:37]: "By doing that, do you think the large established other players are going to continue to grow in market share over the next year?"
The response underscores optimism about the diversification of search dominance:
Unnamed Guest [01:45]: "I do. It's not just about Google's lack of ability to innovate; there are multiple factors at play. Federal regulations could impact market dynamics, as we’re uncertain about the future of tools like Chrome and potential legal implications. Moreover, consumer behavior is shifting—especially among younger demographics who are more open to exploring new search experiences. This combination suggests that Google's current 92% market share is unlikely to remain unchanged."
The guest emphasizes that the search landscape is ripe for change, driven by regulatory factors and evolving consumer preferences. This signals a pivotal moment for businesses to reconsider their SEO strategies beyond just Google-centric approaches.
A particularly insightful part of the conversation revolves around the concept of "life expectancy" of search volume and the importance of capturing mind share across different age groups.
Mike Walruth [03:01]: "There's a hugely underrepresented conversation right now in our industry about the life expectancy, search volume, or discovery volume of a user and who's winning the biggest share. For instance, someone who's 13 today has a lot more searches ahead of them than someone who's 62."
Unnamed Guest [03:25]: "Yeah."
This brief exchange underscores a critical perspective: as new generations come of age in a digital-first world, their search behaviors and preferences will evolve, potentially favoring platforms and search environments that might currently be overshadowed by giants like Google.
The episode wraps up with a consensus that the future of search is dynamic and fragmented. Businesses must adopt a multifaceted SEO strategy that not only capitalizes on Google's AI capabilities but also explores and invests in other emerging search platforms to ensure comprehensive visibility and adaptability in an ever-changing digital landscape.
Unnamed Guest [01:03]: "You're already optimizing for Google's AI search environment... we know how to do that today. The rules may change, but the alternative is impacting those experiences directly and influencing the indexes of established players."
Unnamed Guest [01:45]: "Consumers are promiscuous when it comes to new experiences... there's no scenario where this just reverts back to Google owning 92% of everything and consumers aren't going anywhere else."
Mike Walruth [03:01]: "The life expectancy, search volume, or discovery volume of a user and who's winning the biggest share... someone who's 13 today has a lot more searches ahead of them than someone who's 62."
This episode of Voices of Search serves as a timely reminder for SEO professionals and content marketers to stay agile and forward-thinking. As AI continues to reshape search mechanisms and new platforms vie for attention, diversifying optimization strategies will be key to maintaining and growing online visibility. Leveraging data-driven insights and staying attuned to regulatory and consumer behavior trends will enable businesses to navigate the complex SEO landscape effectively.
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