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Alzo Slade
From NPR n WBEZ Chicago, this is. Wait, wait, don't tell me. The NPR News quiz. Forget Uncle Sam. I'm the uncle you actually want to hang out with. I'm Alzo Slade, and here's your host at the Studebaker Theater in the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal
Thank you, Alzo. Thank you all. Great to be with you. We, like, apparently everybody is. We are so happy to be celebrating America's 250th birthday with the rest of you. People are having parties, parades, cookouts, even reenactments. Alzo, how are you celebrating?
Alzo Slade
I like walking up to those reenactors dressed up like the founding fathers and saying, boo.
Peter Sagal
So while the nation looks backward, so will we with some of the highlights from the past year or so, we
Alzo Slade
start with a visit from the actor and devoted Chicago guy John Cusack, who joined us on stage in March.
John Cusack
Thanks for having me.
Peter Sagal
I have a habit when I'm talking to actors with astonishingly long and varied careers like yours of asking what role they're most recognized for. But since I started this show with a say anything joke, do people, like, ask you to, like, either pretend to hold the boombox up like Lloyd did in the movie, or do they ever do that to you?
John Cusack
No, I haven't had them do it to me, but they have asked me to hold it up. But I tell them I only do that at parties. And. But yeah, but there's been a strong reaction to that character. Yeah, at times.
Alzo Slade
But there are no boomboxes anymore. So they just ask you to hold their iPhone up.
Bill Curtis
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
So I told my wife that you were gonna be in the show, and I saw a look in her face I've never seen before, and she's like John Cusack. Really? And she told me that your character Lloyd, holding that boombox just absolutely blew her away. It was the most romantic thing she had ever seen. And I polled all the women I know, and they all agreed.
John Cusack
Well, as I said, people like that character in that film a lot, which is pretty cool. Live Nation still does some screen of the movie, and we do a Q and A afterwards, and people get pretty rowdy, which is fun. And a guy came up to the mic right over there and he said, my wife left me because she said I Wasn't you now? I sort of had the look that you're facing.
Peter Sagal
I know. Well, you're thinking about my look and your look. I'm thinking about that look my wife gave me. I mentioned earlier, you gotta go home, gotta go, guys.
John Cusack
But the gentleman stopped and then he said, and I want to thank you
Peter Sagal
from the bottom of my mouth.
John Cusack
And he literally dropped the mic. And I thought that kind of covers
Peter Sagal
the whole gamut, right? I know this is a very tough question. I was thinking about your movie career. I know I have a favorite movie of yours, which in my case would be Being John Malkovich. Do you have a favorite of all the ones you've done? And I know there are a lot, and a lot of great ones.
John Cusack
You know, I sort of think back on them and they're sort of like a little bit of a fever dream. And some of the ones that I wrote.
Peter Sagal
Chris, points blank.
John Cusack
Yeah, that's a great one. That's a fun one. I think just because that kind of black comedy doesn't get done that much.
Peter Sagal
That's the movie in which you play a hitman who goes back to his, if I'm not mistaken, tenth high school reunion.
John Cusack
I think it was his. Yeah, it was. No, no, it was 10th.
Peter Sagal
And I'm told that that was inspired by you actually attending your own high school reunion in Evanston.
John Cusack
Yes.
Peter Sagal
And you were like, so there you're back and you're by that time a very accomplished and well known actor. And did you really say to yourself and discuss with your collaborators in the film, you know, it would be really cool if I was a hitman?
John Cusack
Well, I thought to myself, I wrote the script and I said, well, if we get funding for this, that's the only way I'll go to my 10 year high school reunion.
Peter Sagal
Really? As research?
John Cusack
Yes.
Peter Sagal
Oh, wow.
John Cusack
I didn't think we'd get the funding, but then we did, so I had to go.
Alzo Slade
I thought you were going to say you were inspired after going to your high school reunion because when you went there you were like, I can't stand any of these fools.
Peter Sagal
What this place needs is a hitman.
Bill Curtis
Exactly.
Peter Sagal
You still live here in Chicago, where you grew up, which I think is great.
John Cusack
I do, sir.
Peter Sagal
And that is not a choice that a lot of people who get very successful in the entertainment business make. Why did you stay here or come back perhaps?
John Cusack
Have you been to la?
Peter Sagal
I have, yeah.
John Cusack
And
Peter Sagal
yeah, I guess we don't really need to talk about that anymore. And I love this. You Get Around Chicago by Scooter it's true. When you're riding up and down in your scooter, do people ever pull up to you in division and look at you and go, hey, it's John Cusack.
John Cusack
Yeah. Every once in a while in a car.
Peter Sagal
And this is Chicago. They're going to be cool about it, right?
John Cusack
Everyone's so cool about it.
Peter Sagal
Yeah.
John Cusack
Basically, they just go like, oh, hey,
Peter Sagal
off the Chicago one, which I love about Chicago. I heard this. I might get your assistant in trouble because we were talking about, oh, when's John getting here? He's coming in as Vespa. And she told me that your Vespa, which is a beautiful old Italian scooter, runs on gasoline, but not very much at a time.
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Peter Sagal
It's got a small gas tank, and so she told me you have, like, a bottle filled with gasoline.
John Cusack
That might be true, although that might be too much information for Malika to be given out.
Peter Sagal
I'm like, okay, so you're riding around your Vespa, and you're, oh, gas. Reach into the pocket, pull out the bottle.
John Cusack
Just. I don't even know if what I'm doing is legal, but.
Peter Sagal
Doesn't sound it.
John Cusack
Yeah.
Alzo Slade
Peter, you're a snitch.
Peter Sagal
I know you are. Feel terrible. If any members of the Chicago police are listening, remember, it's John Cusack. You're not going to bother.
John Cusack
Yeah, now I'm going to get my. My Vespa search.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, sorry, we got. We got to search flammable contraband. Got to see if you got two, three bottles of gas in there. Hey, you've written a graphic novel. I grew up reading this kind of graphic novel. Very big in Europe, in your case. This graphic novel is about 300 pages long, and it features sex, violence, drugs, aliens, Jackie Gleason, and a plot centered around the very real French avant garde artist and philosopher, Antonin Artaud. So you've sold out and gone mainstream.
Josh
Yeah.
John Cusack
Well, just think of a metaphysical crime movie mixed with kind of a drug mule movie mixed with E.T. so I think French Connection meets E.T. meets my dinner With Andre meets Smokey and the Bandit meets the Mike Douglas Show.
Peter Sagal
Another of those.
Bill Curtis
Yes.
Tom
All right.
Peter Sagal
God, not again. It's a shame to see an actor put on the shelf become so derivative.
John Cusack
Well, the origin of it was I loved this. I love this artist, Arto. And then I thought, well, no one's going to give me money to make that movie yet, but if I write a graphic novel, I always believe in the possibility of possible.
Peter Sagal
Sure, it's pretty funny. And Very bizarre. And I recommend it to everybody.
John Cusack
Oh, thank you.
Peter Sagal
It's really something.
John Cusack
Thank you for reading it.
Peter Sagal
Oh, my pleasure. I know, speaking for myself, I could talk to you all day, but we have business to do. John Cusack, we are thrilled to have you here, and we have invited you here to play a game we're calling say Nothing. As we discussed, you starred in the iconic movie say Anything, so we thought we'd ask you about people who should have kept their mouths shut. Answer two to the three questions about some unwise statements. You'll win our prize for one of our listeners. Also, who is the legendary John Cusack playing for?
Alzo Slade
Jill Farrell of Beaverton, Oregon.
Peter Sagal
All right.
John Cusack
I'm going to do my best for you, Jill Beaverton. Here you go.
Peter Sagal
Here's your first question. Gerald Ratner was the head of Ratner's Great Britain's largest jewelry store chain when he unfortunately called his own company's products, quote, crap. How did he try to undo the damage? Was it A, by trying to convince people that crap was a slang word he learned from his kids that meant really great? B, by having all his company's stores put up a sign in the window saying what we mean by crap, cheap, reliable and affordable prices? Or C, by saying, quote, producing crap is a universal part of the human experience?
John Cusack
I'm going to follow the wisdom of the good and great Jason Benetti.
Peter Sagal
Yes.
John Cusack
On the show last week, always pick B.
Peter Sagal
And you and Jason are right, it is in fact B. His plan was to put up a sign saying crap means cheap, reliable and affordable prices. It did not work and he had to step down from the company. And to this day, according to at least one source we found in the United Kingdom, saying something really stupid and self destructive for no reason is still called pulling a Ratner. Wow, that was really good. Here's your next question. In 2005, former French President Jacques Chirac caused a diplomatic incident with the UK when he made a comment to Vladimir Putin that was caught on a hot mic. What did he say about the British? A, you can't trust people who cook as badly as that. B, look, they were once conquered by us. How tough can they be? Or C, they think they're all Winston Churchill, but they're really just Benny Hill.
John Cusack
Now, here's a problem.
Bill Curtis
Yeah.
John Cusack
Can I say what I want to pick?
Alzo Slade
You may.
Peter Sagal
Yeah. This is your game.
John Cusack
I want it to be C, but I think it's A.
Peter Sagal
And you're right, it was A. Yeah.
John Cusack
Nice.
Peter Sagal
Of course he's French. Of course he's going to insult their cooking. He also, of course, he's French and he's not going to know who Benny Hill is. Exactly. Also true. He also said on the same Hut mic incident that the only thing the British had contributed to agriculture was mad cow disease. So you're doing really well. Here's your last question. A lot of sports broadcasts, as I know you know, mic the crowd as well as the announcers. And sometimes it can backfire, as at a lacrosse game between Sacred Heart University and Siena College last year when the mic picked up one Siena fan yelling, what? That made the ESPN broadcast. Was it, A, we wish we were watching football, B, stab them in the Sacred Heart, or C, Sacred Heart has died. Diarrhea, wow, wow, wow.
John Cusack
I mean, I want all of them
Peter Sagal
diarrhea, different sections, doing different chants.
John Cusack
You know, I think based on the state of America, it must be C.
Peter Sagal
It is C. Yeah, that's what he said. That's smart. The chant from a Siena fan who found the mic and ran up to it and yelled into it. It was hard to make out, but helpfully, one of the ESPN announcers said they're chanting, Sacred Heart has diarrhea.
John Cusack
I'm sure he got a bonus that week.
Bill Curtis
He did.
Peter Sagal
Alzo, how did John Cusack do in our quiz?
Alzo Slade
He said something. He got three out of three. He's a winner.
Tom
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
John Cusack is an actor, writer and producer. His new graphic novel Momo is available now. He's also a proud Chicago guy. John Cusack, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much. John Cusack, everybody. When we come back, you got demons.
Kaylee Reese
No worries.
Peter Sagal
We have a K pop Demon Hunter. That's when we return with more of Wait, wait, Don't Tell me. From npr.
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Alzo Slade
From NPR n WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, wait, don't tell me. The NPR News quiz. I'm Alzo Slade and here's your host at the Studebaker Theater in the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal
Thank you, Alzo. Thank you, everybody. It is America's 250th birthday and I have to say, America, you do not look a day over 200.
Alzo Slade
Did you notice they botoxed the coast of Maine? It's as smooth as Florida now.
Peter Sagal
One way to stay young is to to constantly dwell on the past. We're not just saying that as an excuse to take the week off.
Alzo Slade
Last year, Netflix had its biggest hit ever with the animated musical K Pop Demon Hunters. Arden Cho, who was the voice of Demon Hunter Rumi, joined us in February to talk with guest host Negeen Farsad.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
Hi.
Kaylee Reese
Hello, everyone.
Peter Sagal
Thanks so much for having me.
Arden Cho
Well, so I have to be honest with you. Like, I have a love hate relationship with Rumi, voiced by you because I have a seven year old daughter.
Arden Cho (continued)
Okay, okay, I see where this is going.
Arden Cho
And I hear, I hear your voice all the time. Are our parents mad at you for making the most popular movie of all time?
Arden Cho (continued)
They are kind of at this point, a bit sick of it. But on the flip side, I've heard that, you know, at least it's something that has a positive message and at least their kids are, you know, enjoying it together all ages. And it is very, like, family friendly. Wait, what's your daughter's name?
Arden Cho
Ryka.
Arden Cho (continued)
Okay, Ryka. Well, Rumi says you better listen to mama.
Arden Cho
Oh, my God.
Peter Sagal
Whatever she says,
Arden Cho
you could flip that. Oh, my God. That I'm gonna on replay for the rest of her life. That's what's gonn. I mean, roomie. Arden. Wow, you really have heard. I'm so sorry. I literally do hear your voice way too much. Okay, so one of the really unexpected things about you is that, you know, you're not just an actor and you're so many more things. And one of those things is a champion poker player like you are internationally ranked. How did that happen I was actually
Arden Cho (continued)
a psych major in college, and I always loved the game. I've just respected it so much, and I really wasn't great. I've always been quite shy, and I'm not much of, like, a partier and quite a More of an introvert. So I like these quiet settings. It's taught me to be confident and to take risks, learn to say no and to bet on myself. I'm often underestimated. I think people are just, like, not expecting anything from me, and then they're like, oh, she's not that bad, or maybe she's okay.
Arden Cho
I love it that you've put such
Peter Sagal
a positive spin on a degenerate practice.
Arden Cho
Well, there are degenerate parts of that
Arden Cho (continued)
world for sure, but I find that there are a lot of really great parts in that world as well. I've met a lot of really cool players, people who are like, I want to, like, hang out with my friends, but I don't want to sit in a club. It's kind of like a nice alternative.
Arden Cho
Yeah. So, Arden, you actually had some news recently that you got engaged. Congratulations. Thank you. And then something else happened that day, right after you got engaged at the TSA PreCheck line. Can you tell us what happened?
Arden Cho (continued)
Oh, my goodness, it was so funny. Well, it was actually before we got engaged. My fiance and I were flying to Hawaii, but we always, you know, get in together, and, you know, we're flying business. And so I didn't have TSA PreCheck at the time.
Kaylee Reese
He did.
Arden Cho (continued)
And all of a sudden, he's just like, I'm going to go this way into the TSA PreCheck line and leave you. And I was just like, wait, what?
Arden Cho
And you were like, I want to marry that man. Well, no, no, we weren't engaged yet.
Arden Cho (continued)
He was. He was sneaking away because he was afraid that they'd take out the ring and that I would see it because we were going to Hawaii for our friend's wedding. So I thought, all of a sudden, he was being ultra competitive and seeing
Peter Sagal
who could go faster.
Arden Cho (continued)
And then, of course, the next day, he proposed, and I was like, oh,
Arden Cho
everything makes sense, right? Like, he wasn't just being a jerk. Yeah, well, you've had a whirlwind year, Arden, and we've asked you here to play a game that we're calling K
Bill Curtis
Pop Demon Hunters, meet K Mart Bargain Hunters.
Arden Cho (continued)
Okay.
Arden Cho
That's right. We're going to ask you three questions about the late, great discount store Kmart. Answer just two of them correctly. And you'll win our prize for one of our listeners. Bill, who's Arden playing for?
Bill Curtis
Gina Hoffman of Sacramento, California.
Arden Cho (continued)
Okay, Gina, I'm going to try my hardest.
Arden Cho
I'm quite competitive.
Arden Cho (continued)
I shall try.
Arden Cho
All right, here's your first question. By the 2000 and tens, Kmart was struggling to keep up with Walmart and Target. So they tried to do anything they could to grab people's attention. Like, which of these commercials was it? A, an ad where a woman stripped from a parka down to her underwear to show all the different kinds of clothing that were on sale? Was it B, an ad promoting free shipping for online orders that used the phrase I can ship my pants 11 times? Or was it C, an ad with a jingle that went kmart. It's KKK Mart.
Peter Sagal
Uh oh.
Arden Cho
Do you remember Bingo. That is correct.
Asif Manvi
Bing.
Arden Cho
It was Ship my Pants. They ran another ad for Kmart's with gas stations attached, talking about their big ass savings. So they were really doing it. Kmart. All right, here we go. Here's your next question. Next question. In 2019, a man named Andrew Lippy was arrested for stealing $300 worth of goods from a Kmart in Florida. This came as a shock to people. Why? Was it A, because he was the manager of the Walmart across the street? B, he was a city councilman who ran on promises to fight shoplifting, or C, earlier that week, he had bought his own private island for $8 million?
Arden Cho (continued)
B.
Arden Cho
No, wrong. It is C. Oh, C. Really? C. I thought it was C. Wow. Here's your last question. While Kmart is all but gone in the US there are over 300kmarts in Australia. But one mom in Melbourne is furious with the company because the toy lion she bought there for her son was what, A anatomically correct? Was it B, louder than a jackhammer? Or was it C, stuffed with a combination of styrofoam and gunpowder?
Alzo Slade
A.
Arden Cho
That's right. It was a. Wow.
Arden Cho (continued)
Oh, my goodness.
Arden Cho
This line.
Arden Cho (continued)
Never been so nervous in my life. I have to pay attention to the ads and nudes.
Arden Cho
No, this lion was clearly a male, and some toy designer was definitely trying to get fired.
Peter Sagal
Oh, my goodness.
Arden Cho
Bill, how did Arden do on our quiz?
Bill Curtis
Arden can stop hunting demons. Cause she got two out of three, which is a win for us.
Arden Cho
Yes. Arden, thank you so much for joining us. Arden Cho is the voice of Rumi in Netflix's K Pop Demon Hunters, which is nominated for best animated film at this year's Oscars. Arden, Jo, thanks for joining us. Bye, Arden.
Peter Sagal
Hi, Arden. I First became a fan of Asif Manvi when he was one of the hilarious correspondents in the Daily Show. But when he joined us in March, he talked about all the odd jobs as a performer he had before he made it big.
Asif Manvi
I used to perform in murder mysteries where we would go undercut, like, sort of incognito into these parties, and then someone would get killed.
Alzo Slade
And
Asif Manvi
one of the most infamous ones that I ever did was at an Orthodox Jewish
Kaylee Reese
meet.
Asif Manvi
They were trying to meet people to get married.
Peter Sagal
Like a singles meetup.
Asif Manvi
Singles meetup thing. Right. And we go in there and I
Peter Sagal
just want to pause and say, somebody organized singles meetup for Orthodox Jews and said to themselves, you know what would make this a really great evening?
Asif Manvi
Yeah, exactly.
Peter Sagal
If somebody were murdered.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
All right, you go in there.
Asif Manvi
And so I just remember that I was. One of the other actors who I used to work with at the time was Connie Britton, and she was sort of chatting up this guy who I just remember was wearing a yellow suit. So that'll tell you everything about him.
Bill Curtis
Yeah.
Asif Manvi
And was Dick Tracy. And she was really chatting him up and. And he thought he had hit the jackpot.
Peter Sagal
Right.
Asif Manvi
He was like, this is. Like this beautiful woman is talking to me. And then about 20 minutes into it, he. She was killed by the.
Peter Sagal
I. I've had dates like that. I'm just sympathetic. You are. You are going on Broadway in this revival of the Noel Coward play with the great Rose Byrne, among many others. The other thing you have coming out is a TV show on Peacock, a comedy called the Miniature Wife. And I have to say, I heard the title, and I said to myself, oh, that must be like a metaphor about a wife. She's maybe in the shadow of her husband. She feels small. That's not what it's about, is it?
Asif Manvi
No, no. It's about a man who has a scientist who has designed a sort of serum that can miniaturize crops to combat climate change. So you know Matthew McFadden, who I love from Succession.
Josh
Yeah.
Asif Manvi
And Elizabeth Banks, who I worked with many years ago in Williamstown, is literally six inches tall.
Arden Cho (continued)
Yes.
Asif Manvi
And lives in the dollhouse for. But they hate each other and they're constantly trying to kill each other. So it's Honey I Shrunk the Kids meets Tom and Jerry.
Peter Sagal
Did you have to spend any time on set, like crouching down and pretending you're talking to a six inch high, Elizabeth?
Asif Manvi
Yes, later in the season, I do. Matthew hides the whole storyline of his wife from me for a long time until he finally can't. And then there is a moment where he and I are both on the floor talking to a small cardboard cutout of Elizabeth Banks.
Kaylee Reese
Right?
Asif Manvi
And they would sort of move her around and sort of pretend like she was walking.
Peter Sagal
I have one more question for you. Like I said at the beginning, I first knew you and became a big fan when you were on the Daily Show. But I heard a story. I don't know. I don't know how this could be true, that you ended up appearing on the Daily show the same day you auditioned for it.
Asif Manvi
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
How is that even possible?
Asif Manvi
That is true. A couple of days earlier, I had found out that my ex girlfriend had gotten engaged. And so I was very upset, and I was writing one of those letters.
Alzo Slade
No.
Asif Manvi
You know, that you write to your ex girlfriend saying, how you up? You know, you. And. And I can't say that. Can I say that?
Peter Sagal
You just did. It's all right.
Asif Manvi
You'll figure it out. Anyway, so I'm writing this, and I get this call to come and audition for the Daily show, and I. And I. I was in such a bad place that I said, I can't come in today. I don't feel it. Can I come in tomorrow? And they said, no, if you don't come in today, then it's done. So I literally just, like, put on a suit, and I went in, and I honestly just had this, like, attitude of, like, I'm never gonna get this. This is ridiculous. Like, I'm in the wrong frame of mind. And John met me, and he said. And I was a little bit surly, and I said. Because he said to me, he said, have you. You know, have you ever performed in front of a live audience? And I remember looking at him and just being like, dude, I've been on Broadway, and. And I. I had such. But I just did my best Stephen Colbert impression because that's all I needed to do. And I was a fan of the show, and. And he hired me right there on the spot, and I was on the show that night, and I didn't even get a chance to tell anybody. And suddenly it was just. I was on the show, and people were calling me like, there's a guy
Peter Sagal
who looks a lot like you on
Asif Manvi
the Daily show tonight. And so I didn't even get to tell my family until after it was on.
Peter Sagal
Did it comfort you, maybe, given the circumstances of the day, to know that maybe your ex girlfriend would see you on this hit, incredibly, culturally significant TV show and think to herself, my God, what have I done.
Asif Manvi
You know, it's so funny. Like, the minute I got the Daily Show, I didn't really care about my ex girlfriend that much.
Bill Curtis
There you go.
Peter Sagal
Lesson for you all. Ladies and gentlemen, Asif Madhvi. It's a pleasure to talk to you. We have asked you here today to play a game we're calling Miniature Wife, meet Miniature Groom. So your new series is the Miniature Wife, and we're going to ask you about a place you usually find miniature brides and grooms on top of wedding cakes. Answer two out of three questions correctly, you'll win our prize for one of our listeners, the voice of their choice on their voicemail. Bill, who is Asif Manvi playing for?
Bill Curtis
Linda Evers of Collinsville, Illinois.
Peter Sagal
All right, ready to play?
Bill Curtis
Sure.
Peter Sagal
Here's your first question. Wedding cakes have been around since at least ancient Roman times, but the tradition back then was a little different. Instead of the bride and groom cutting the cake together, what would happen? A, the bride would throw the cake as far as she could and the groom would go find it and bring it back. B, they would break the cake over the bride's head. Or C, they would put a live squirrel inside it and would wait for it to eat its way out, thus cutting the cake.
Asif Manvi
I'm going to go with B.
Peter Sagal
Yes, you're right. They would break the cake over the bride's head. Oh, they lost a lot of good brides back then. All right, here's your next question. Wedding cakes, of course, are a tradition now, but if you were getting married in 17th century Europe, you and your guests would most likely be cutting into what at the wedding celebration. Would it be a, what was known as the bride's pie, a savory pie filled with oysters, lamb, testicles, and occasionally live snakes. B, potatoes, basically just dozens and dozens of potatoes. Or C, just the air. Or as wedding planners of the time called it, a cake of the mind.
Asif Manvi
I'm going to say that they were just cut into potatoes because.
Peter Sagal
Potatoes. They had a lot of potatoes at the time. No, it was actually a, the bride's pie. According to Wikipedia, in addition to the other tasty things, they would occasionally put a live snake there to, quote, help guests to pass the time in a wedding. I guess they did that because at the time they needed entertainment and they had no DJs.
Asif Manvi
Right, that's true. That is true. DJs didn't come around until about the 1800s.
Peter Sagal
Exactly true.
Bill Curtis
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
You have one more chance. If you get this right, you win the one tradition today that every wedding expert tells you, just skip it. Don't do it is when the groom smashes the cake into the bride's face.
Arden Cho
Right.
Peter Sagal
Or the bride does it to the groom. One couple went so hard in the cake smashing bit that after the they cleaned up. This just happened in January. They did what? A, they did it again, smashing each other in the faces with the entree from dinner and then all the side dishes. B, they handed out cupcakes for their guests to smash on each other to join the fun. Or C, they got divorced. The audience. You think they got divorced? Is that what the audience, the audience thinks they got divorced.
Asif Manvi
All right. Go with the audience.
Peter Sagal
And they're right. You have to listen to the audience. They're right. Bill, how did Asif man be doing our quiz?
Bill Curtis
Asif got two right and that makes him a winner.
Peter Sagal
Congratulations. Congratulations.
Asif Manvi
With a little help.
Bill Curtis
Little help. Little help.
Peter Sagal
We're all here to help each other. It's a community. Asif Manvi, what a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you so much for joining us. Take care. Break legs on Broadway.
Asif Manvi
Thank you.
Peter Sagal
Thank you for having me. Bye.
Bill Curtis
Bye.
Peter Sagal
When we come back, our panel proudly displays their refusal to actually pay attention to the news. And we visit with Kaylee Reese, the only actor who could ever win an E, G, G, O, T, an Emmy, Golden Gloves, Oscar, and Tony. That's when we come back with more. Wait, wait, don't tell me from npr.
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Alzo Slade
From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, wait, don't tell me the NPR News quiz. I'm Alzo Slade. And here's your host at the Studebaker Theater in the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal
Thank you, Alzo. Thanks, everybody. We are celebrating America's 250th birthday, like most people, by looking back with admiration and pride on its history. Well, not the whole 250 years and not necessarily the history of the whole country. Basically just the recent part of its history that involves just us.
Alzo Slade
Less significant events on the world stage.
Tom
Sure.
Alzo Slade
But also way less to apologize for.
Peter Sagal
Our panelists, strangely never apologize for not knowing the news, even though it's their job to answer questions about it. Here are some of the questions we pose to our panelists that you have never heard before. Josh. Yes, this season, Major League Baseball, a lot of changes. Catchers are reporting that there is a huge increase this season in the number of times what happens.
Josh
It's not falling asleep during the games because they've tightened those up.
Peter Sagal
Yes, they have. It's something that's happening to catchers.
Josh
To catchers?
Peter Sagal
Yes. More frequently than it used to.
Josh
Is batters hitting them with the bat?
Peter Sagal
Not with the. No, they're not getting hit with the
Josh
bat, but like catcher interference.
Peter Sagal
No, no Getting hit.
Josh
Umpires hitting them.
Bill Curtis
No.
Peter Sagal
Damn you, sir.
Bill Curtis
Damn you.
Josh
I know what you're doing.
Peter Sagal
Back of my hand to you, sir.
Josh
Getting slid into.
Peter Sagal
No, I'll give you a hand. Sometimes after a foul ball, the catcher also ends up with fouled balls.
Josh
Oh, catchers getting hit in the groin.
Peter Sagal
Yes. By baseballs. Yes.
Josh
Sure.
Peter Sagal
Catchers are taking baseballs to the junk a lot more than they used to. The players told the New York Times that there's been a huge increase this season in that, you know, getting hit by a baseball Right in the peanuts and Cracker Jacks. I mean, it's great because Major League Baseball has been working so long to make baseball more entertaining, and they've finally done it. Now, the phenomenon is due primarily to this new stance that catchers are using behind the plate. They don't crouch behind the play it anymore. Most catchers are down on one knee with their other leg splayed out straight, which is a lot less fatiguing over the course of the game. But it's basically when you do that, you're giving the pitcher two targets to choose from.
Josh
If I had two options of how to stand and one of them got me hit in the testicles with a baseball a lot more than the other one, that would make my choice for me, I would go the other.
Peter Sagal
I mean, when you're doing you're listening. Of pros and cons, that would pretty much be the only one on the con list.
Josh
Less fatigue on one side, hit repeatedly in the testicles with a 90 mile an hour fastball.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
But then how are you going to win? America's Funniest Home Video.
Bill Curtis
Shane.
Peter Sagal
Baseball star Bryce Harper of the Philadelphia Phillies posted a Get Ready with Me video right on Instagram. But he got a lot of heat after he revealed he brushes his teeth by doing what?
Josh (alternate or same as G)
What does he use? A baseball bat?
Peter Sagal
No, no.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
If. All right, I do this. So I think it might be this because I never thought this was. I put the toothpaste directly onto my tongue.
Peter Sagal
That's it.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
And we're both great athletes.
Peter Sagal
So wait, this is amazing because Bryce, he's like doing this Get Ready with Me video and he just takes the toothpaste and he squeezes it into his mouth, puts down the toothpaste, grabs the toothbrush and starts scrubbing.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
Yeah. What about Alphas?
Josh
Well, wait a minute.
Peter Sagal
And everybody was like, this is so weird. Nobody else in the world does this. And we right here have discovered the other human being who does this. This is amazing. So, Shane. Oh, God.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
I never thought I'd have something in common with. With someone who plays for Philly.
Peter Sagal
So what, Shane, is the advantage of squeezing the toothpaste onto your own tongue rather than placing it on the toothbrush as God intended.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
You want to know my logic behind it truly is that this is insane. But I take it and I put it on my tongue. And by the way, I feel your judgment.
Josh
I don't think they're trying to hide it.
John Cusack
Yeah.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
And then I take my tongue and I press it to the roof of my mouth because you people brush their tongues. But people don't talk about brushing the roof of your mouth. And I don't understand why you wouldn't. Because it's still.
Peter Sagal
What that got to do with you putting that on your tongue? I just like it's an even application.
Josh
Oh, I see it. It's like you squeezing two pieces of bread together to get the you sandwich all.
John Cusack
Yes.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
Okay. This is.
Peter Sagal
Boy brush your teeth. That is because y' all locked in immediately together.
Josh
I see the.
Peter Sagal
Okay. Does this seem insane? Yes, it does. Because you can brush the roof of your mouth if you wanted to do that by putting it toothpaste on the brush.
Alzo Slade
But now, Shane, I'm really thinking about this. Like if you put.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
Seems like we got a convert.
Peter Sagal
Oh, I don't think so.
Alzo Slade
No. But if you put it directly on your tongue, you Never have to worry about water pressure kicking the toothpaste off the toothbrush before you brush your teeth.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
Something I never even thought about.
Alzo Slade
See, you can add that to your reasons.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
Thank you very much, Bryce Harper and I. Thank you,
Peter Sagal
Tom. A well known mortgage company is expanding their business. They've announced that in addition to home finance loans with competitive terms, they will also offer.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
What?
Tom
They will also offer cemetery plots.
Peter Sagal
How does that figure?
Tom
I'm not much for math. It's probably like a 4%.
Peter Sagal
I see what you mean. No, actually, I don't. That's not it. No, no, no.
Tom
Like another kind of offering.
Peter Sagal
Another. A completely different kind of product.
Tom
Oh, totally different kind of. Kind of product.
Peter Sagal
Totally different kind of product.
Tom
Oh, man, that could be anything. Is it related to mortgages?
Peter Sagal
Not in any way that we can see. That's why we thought we'd bring it up here.
Tom
Oh, they're going to sell tiny genetically modified ponies.
Arden Cho (continued)
Yes, of course.
Tom
That'd be fun.
Announcer
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Alzo Slade
Tom, this is where you asked for a hint.
Tom
Oh, thank you. Bill never advised me like that.
Peter Sagal
No, I wanted to talk more about the tiny little ponies. Me too.
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Arden Cho (continued)
That's sweet.
Bill Curtis
Well,
Tom
can I have a hint, please?
Bill Curtis
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
Well, I guess in response, Lululemon will start selling mortgages.
Tom
Oh, they're going to sell underpants. Athletic. Athletic wear.
Peter Sagal
Athletic wear. Athleisure wear. Yes. Athleisure, the mortgage lender company, Rate launched their new spin off company, Rate Fit, which sells Athleisure clothing. They say it's about, quote, building the world's largest wellness community where your financial, physical and mental fitness are in harmony. Unquote. Yeah. So there's definitely going to be another mortgage crisis. Okay.
John Cusack
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
Is the CEO of that company some CrossFit dude on ketamine? That's what it sounds like. Possibly it was his idea. Apparently this is like something he really wanted to do. So he started this new clothing line. They're making sweatpants, sweatshirts and something called subprime yoga pants. And you'll be able to pay it
Arden Cho
off by the time you turn 60.
Peter Sagal
That's the plan.
Tom
I wish them well, but I just know in about a year and a half they're gonna be in a board meeting and that guy's gonna have his head in his hands going, we should have done the ponies.
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Peter Sagal
Finally, in January, we talked to an actor with a pretty unusual background. Instead of theater or film school in New York or la, she trained in a boxing gym in Providence, Rhode Island.
Alzo Slade
Kaylee Reese was nominated for her role opposite Jodie Foster in True Detective, Night country, which came very soon after her transition to acting.
Kaylee Reese
It was my third professional acting job, first TV show ever.
Peter Sagal
Wow. And from a very young age. When did you start boxing?
Kaylee Reese
Around the age of 13 or 14. I found boxing. Prior to that, I played softball, played basketball. I'm one of five kids. I'm the youngest girl. I always tried to do what my big brother did, but nobody, nobody in my family boxed. It was kind of, you know, growing up, I wanted to be the Karate Kid. I wanted to be Bruce Lee. You know, I was so obsessed with Rocky. So it just kind of, Just kind of happened.
John Cusack
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
Wow. I mean, you were obsessed with Rocky. Wait a minute. I know some elite athletes. It doesn't just kind of happen.
Tom
Right.
Peter Sagal
You must have, like, really been dedicated to it.
Kaylee Reese
Yeah, I was dedicated to it. I mean, you know, I was a little rough kid growing up. You know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't start fights, but I'd finish them.
Peter Sagal
Oh, yeah.
Kaylee Reese
So, you know, I didn't like to see kids getting bullied. I didn't like getting bullied. So I would always be the one standing up for the bullies. But it wasn't like I wasn't trying to be a fighter. I do come from a very musically inclined family, very artistic family. Fun fact. My father used to actually play with Marky Mark in the Funky Bunch.
Peter Sagal
He was no real part of the bunch.
Kaylee Reese
He was part of the bunch. He was keyboard player. So there was good vibrations everywhere.
Peter Sagal
Wait a minute. You're a descendant of Marky Mark? You truly are. New England royalty. That is.
Kaylee Reese
I'll take that.
Peter Sagal
I know. That is amazing. And so again, I stress how amazed I am that with a background, not in acting, how good an actor you are. I know you have talked about how the discipline and focus of elite boxing has helped you into in the acting world, but isn't there an element of acting in boxing? I mean, like in the weigh ins, when you're like glaring at the opponent, you're like fronting a little bit, right? I mean, did that.
Kaylee Reese
Oh, it's an entertainment business at the very, at the very core of it. I mean, we're up on a stage, we're performing. You know, there's a character. I'm not going around one shot and hit people on the street. That's not who I am as a person. But it's also like, you know, you have to be an artist. You have to, you know, you have to be really calm. You have to prepare. So you. But there are people who build characters, big charismatic entertainment, you know, all that buildup is really good for it, for people tune in. I mean, we have some really cool things happen in boxing because of that charismatic type of entertainment value of boxing. So absolutely, we are performing there.
Peter Sagal
Right. I read that in True Detective, Night country, you play an Alaskan native. But what I read, and you can tell me if it's true or not, is that your native Rhode island accent would come out frequently enough that they figured they'd better write that into your character so that it would be explicable if all of a sudden you're like looking at a corpse or something and you're like, oh, that's wicked gross.
Kaylee Reese
Yeah, I love Issa, the director. She decided to make my character part of it because I was working with the, the dialect coach to keep my quote unquote accent at bay. I didn't want to sound like Peter Griffin making, you know, an investigation.
Peter Sagal
You know what I mean? So I just, I think you just sold the next hit series for hbo, by the way. Hopefully with you in the lead. Go on. It was weird how your character always had a cup of Duncan in her hand at all times. So in everything you starred in so far, from like True Detective to this new movie, Mercy, you always play people who, who seem like they could and would kick your ass at any moment. So do you ever, like, want to get cast in like a different kind of part, like romantic lead in a Hallmark movie, presumably battle?
Kaylee Reese
I would love to. I would love to. You know, I want to dabble in some comedy. I Would love to do some comedy. You know, I love a challenge. I love something that maybe I'm not as strong at yet. I would love to take any, you know, whatever is meant for me. I don't want to just stick to the. I mean, I can't help that. The badassery just shines through it.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
It does.
Peter Sagal
It kind of does.
Arden Cho
I'm sorry.
Peter Sagal
How about, let me put it. How about a Hallmark movie where you come back to your hometown, leaving the big city, and you find the guy who, you know, broke your heart 20 years before, and it turns out he's a jerk and you beat the crap out of him. I'm sorry.
Josh (alternate or same as G)
I got.
Peter Sagal
I just.
Kaylee Reese
That's happened. It's fine.
Peter Sagal
That's another show for hbo. We're off lining up projects for you.
Kaylee Reese
Documentary.
Peter Sagal
Well, Kaylee Reese, it is a pleasure to talk to you. And we have asked you here, as we do with everyone, to play a game. And in your case, we're calling it
Bill Curtis
the Future is Here.
Peter Sagal
And by here, we mean Las Vegas, because that's where every year the Consumer Electronics show happens. It's the annual convention where tech companies show off their newest innovations, hopefully to the public that will love them. So we're going to ask you three questions about the Cesar Consumer Electronics show, past and present. If you get two right, you'll win a prize for one of our listeners. Bill, who is Kaylee Reese playing for?
Bill Curtis
Christopher Wolf of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Tom
All right.
Bill Curtis
Hey.
Kaylee Reese
Go Birds.
Bill Curtis
Hey.
Peter Sagal
Here's your first question. At the 2017 CES, intel made waves when they introduced their newest VR headset, which they handed out to members of the media along with watch A, a nurse with an IV so they wouldn't have to stop playing and, you know, eat B, protective gear for when they banged into each other while playing the games. Or C, barf bags. C. You're right. You knew it and you're right. Yeah. If you've. The demo program that they tried out included jumping off helicopters, traveling to Vietnam, flying high with a drone, and in some cases, apparently, projectile vomiting. All right, good. You did that really well. Now, there are always robots being demoed at CES, but in 2020, the most exciting new robot had one purpose. What was it? A, to open your car door from the inside if you lock your keys in the car. B, to look up people's names that you have forgotten at a party. Or C, to bring you a roll of toilet paper if you. You run out while you are in the bathroom.
Kaylee Reese
I'm going to go with C because I Hope that exists.
Peter Sagal
It does. You're right. A tech company partnered with Charmin to create a new robot which you operate with your smartphone from the toilet.
Kaylee Reese
I need that.
Peter Sagal
We all do. But here's the thing. So you have the wherewithal, the foresight to set up the robot in its little niche, wherever it is, with a roll of toilet paper on it, all set to go. Why don't you just put the roll of toilet paper in the bathroom?
Kaylee Reese
All right. Stepchildren forget to put it in the bathroom and then you're stuck there with no toilet paper.
Peter Sagal
I'm just gonna say I haven't seen all your projects as a performer, but I've never seen you more vulnerable than you were in that moment.
Kaylee Reese
See, I just gave you like an audition of my vulnerability.
Bill Curtis
I know, man.
Peter Sagal
I. I am ready to cast you in your latest project about a vulnerable, sensitive woman who's caught in a bathroom with no toilet paper.
Kaylee Reese
That's going to be my first short.
Peter Sagal
Absolutely. We are planning a career here. Okay, last question. You were doing this pretty much about as well as you have done everything else you have ever attempted. At this year, CES1 manufacturer introduced a new device with which you can enjoy music. What is it? A, a large case with two built in stereo speakers known as an I boom box. B, a lollipop that plays music inside your head when you suck on it. Or C, a robot bassist complete with genuine bassist scent.
Kaylee Reese
What was B again?
Peter Sagal
B was a lollipop that plays music inside your head while you suck on it.
Kaylee Reese
I'm gonna go with B because that sounds kind of cool.
Peter Sagal
You're right again. I mean, your competence extends to everything. When you put lollipop star, that is what it is called, in your mouth, it vibrates against your teeth, which connects to your face bones, which connects to your ear bones. And it comes in three flavors, or rather songs. Bill, how did Kaylee Reese do on our quiz?
Bill Curtis
Well, if I don't get it right, she's going to come down and beat the living hell out of. Fortunately, I don't have to because she is perfect. Three in a row. There you go.
Peter Sagal
I mean, honestly. Kaylee Reese is an Emmy nominated actress and member of the International Women's Boxing hall of Fame. You can see her in the new movie Mercy that is out next week. Kaylee Reese, what a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you so much for joining us. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Thank you. We'll be back back next week, rested and ready to start our second 250 years but first, let me tell you that Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is a production of NPRNW Bez Chicago in association with Urgent Haircut Productions. Doug Berman, benevolent Overlord Philip Ga writes our limericks. Our public address announcer is Paul Friedman. BJ Lederman composed our theme. Our program is produced by Jennifer Mills, Miles Dornboss and Lillian King. Special thanks to Lillian King. Peter Guin, still gallantly streaming, Our Vibes curator is Emma Cho. Technical directions from Lorna White. Our CFO is Colin Miller. Our ops manager is Jasira Vardeck. Our production manager is Robert Newhouse. Our senior producer is Ian Chillaghi. And the executive producer of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is Mike Danforth. Thanks to everybody you heard on our show this week, all of our panelists, Alzo Slade, our guests and, of course, Bill Curtis. And thanks to all of you for listening. I'm Peter Sagal, and we'll see you next week. This is npr.
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Episode: "Celebrating the 4th with nothing but bangers!"
Date: July 4, 2026
Host: Peter Sagal
Location: Studebaker Theater, Chicago, IL
This special July 4th episode of NPR's “Wait Wait... Don’t Tell Me!” brings nonstop laughs, quirky news, and games featuring some of the past year’s funniest moments and most memorable guests. Host Peter Sagal, announcer Bill Curtis, and the panel celebrate America’s 250th birthday by revisiting favorite interviews with actor John Cusack, “K Pop Demon Hunters” star Arden Cho, comedian/actor Asif Manvi, and boxing champ-turned-actress Kali Reis. Listeners are treated to the panel’s signature quick wit, off-beat current events, and playful banter—plus the joy of learning perhaps more than they ever wanted to about toothpaste application, boxers with Rhode Island accents, and the risks of putting robots in your bathroom.
(00:57–12:00)
On Being Recognized for “Say Anything” Lloyd Dobler:
Audience Encounters:
Favorite Movie Roles:
Life in Chicago:
His Graphic Novel “Momo”:
Lightning Round Quiz: "Say Nothing":
Memorable Quotes:
(14:10–21:35)
Pop Culture Impact:
Hidden Talents:
Personal Anecdote:
Quiz Segment: “K-Mart Bargain Hunters":
(21:35–30:49)
Career Start:
The Miniature Wife:
Daily Show Origin Story:
Quiz Segment: “Miniature Wife, Meet Miniature Groom!”
(41:27–50:04)
From the ring to the screen:
Acting insights:
Accents and authenticity:
Career dreams:
Quiz Segment: “The Future is Here!”
(32:32–41:27)
Catcher injuries:
Toothpaste application oddities:
Unexpected business pivots:
| Segment | Timestamps | |-------------------------------------------------|--------------| | John Cusack Interview & Quiz | 00:57–12:00 | | Arden Cho Interview & Quiz | 14:10–21:35 | | Asif Manvi Interview & Quiz | 21:35–30:49 | | Panel Game Highlights & Banter | 32:32–41:27 | | Kaylee Reese Interview & Quiz | 41:27–50:04 |
The episode maintains the signature “Wait Wait...Don’t Tell Me!” blend of irreverent humor, fast-paced banter, real news with heavy doses of absurdity, and generous affection for its guests. It’s both a celebration of Americana and a reminder that the weirdest things in our culture often make for the best laughs.
Bottom Line:
If you missed this festive episode, catch up for the stories, the games, and the comic perspective on life, America, and the peculiar things we cherish—like classic movies, discount store ads, robot toilet paper butlers, and boxers who’d rather be comedians.