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Peter Sagal
Up first. Good morning. Is a Golden Globe nominee.
Bill Curtis
Good morning.
Peter Sagal
Because of you.
Bill Curtis
Good morning. This is UP first.
Peter Sagal
Your support makes it possible here in Tennessee for public media reporters around the.
Caller/Contestant
World, here in Montana, here in Gyeongju.
Peter Sagal
On the line from Moscow to bring you three essential stories every morning. What's the latest from the front line? So Ukrainians want to make sure there is no Up First. Now, a Golden Globe nominee for best podcast.
Caller/Contestant
From NPR and WBC Chicago, this is Wait, wait, don't tell me. The NPR News quiz. I'm the Voice so rich it makes you sign a prenup. Bill Curtis is the name. And here is your host at the Studebaker Theater at the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal
Thank you, Bill. Thank you, everybody. Great to see you. Great to be with you. We do have a great show for you today. Later on, we're going to be talking to the actor Delroy Lindo, star of the movie Sinners and many other great. But first, this show marks the beginning of our 29th year on the air. True. Hard to believe, but true. And I just wanted to say, first of all, thanks to all of you who are listening for your patience as we continue to try to work out the kinks. And to my father who is listening to this, I think it's time you accept I am not going to law school. So you can help us get this 29th year started by calling in to play our games. The number is 1-888-wait, wait. That's 1-888-9-24-89-24. Let's welcome our first listener contestant. Hi, you, Ron. Wait, wait, don't tell me.
Caller/Contestant
Hi, Peter. This is Dan from Minneapolis.
Peter Sagal
Hey, Dan, I have spent a lot of time in Minneapolis. What do you do there to enjoy yourself?
Bill Curtis
Oh, what?
Caller/Contestant
I do that for fun. I like to enjoy the winter skiing and ice skating.
Bill Curtis
Yep.
Peter Sagal
And I want to point out, having lived in Minnesota, the skiing is the flat kind of right. Not the I mean, there are a.
Caller/Contestant
Couple of hills around.
Peter Sagal
Yes. Well, welcome to the show, Dan. Let me introduce you to our panel this week. First up, her album yell Joy is available on all streaming platforms. It's Joyell Nicole Johnson.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Hi, Dan.
Peter Sagal
Hello. Next, a humorist whose sub stack is Take Another Little Piece of My Heart. Now It's Roy Blunt Jr. And a comedian you can see in Arizona on January 31st at the Fox Theater in Tucson, it's Paula Poundstone.
Paula Poundstone
Hey, Dan.
Peter Sagal
So, Dan, welcome to the show. You're going to play who's Bill this time? Bill Curtis is going to read you three quotations from this week's news. If you can correctly identify or explain two of them, you will win our prize. Any voice from our show you might choose on your voicemail. Are you ready to go?
Caller/Contestant
Absolutely.
Peter Sagal
Okay, here we go. Your first quote is some stirring patriotic words from our president when he became a wartime leader on Saturday.
Caller/Contestant
We're going to get that oil flowing.
Peter Sagal
He really wasn't hiding the reason he ordered the invasion of what country?
Caller/Contestant
That would be Venezuela.
Peter Sagal
It would be Venezuela. And it was really kind of refreshing. I mean, while previous administrations have disguised their true intentions for various foreign adventures, President Trump, as you heard, came right out and said it, right? It's like they took the slogan no blood for oil and put a comment in it. No blood for oil.
Paula Poundstone
Yeah, yeah. No one has ever really called him refreshing before.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, well, he's straightforward. I mean, there's a certain honesty and clarity. But speaking of straightforward, one of the things that was so weird about it was like they wanted Maduro out, they wanted to get him out of there and they just went in and got him. They just took them. I mean, whatever happened to like subtlety in international sabotage, right? I mean, there was like some CIA agent who spent five years trying to seduce him and now look, right? This is also true that to practice the raid, they built an exact replica of President Maduro's mansion in Kentucky and they practiced on it that is currently being torn down and replaced with a scale model of Greenland.
Paula Poundstone
Did they really do that? Did they really practice on it?
Peter Sagal
They really did. They built a full scale replica based on all their intelligence and they just practiced the raid over and over again.
Paula Poundstone
That is so McDonald's.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, well, it's McDonald's.
Paula Poundstone
When McDonald's wanted to put a McDonald's in Japan for the first time, they said, okay, but you can't block traffic. And so they got this big warehouse and they practiced building a McDonald's inside the warehouse until they could do it like that. And they were given like, I think 24 hours or something. And so they had to learn to build the McDonald's quickly, right? Yeah. So it's very.
Peter Sagal
Is that widely known, do you think the Pentagon said, okay, guys, we're going to do this McDonald's stuff?
Paula Poundstone
You know, a lot of, you know, a lot of these things are interconnected. I don't. Did I tell you this before? Stop me if I told you this before. But did I tell.
Peter Sagal
Okay.
Bill Curtis
I'm good. Anyway, I think they should have left that house there.
Peter Sagal
Yeah.
Bill Curtis
A Lot of people would like to live there.
Peter Sagal
I mean, it's probably a very nice house. Being a prisoner, it'd be a little.
Bill Curtis
Awkward for a while, but.
Paula Poundstone
Yeah, you know, I wonder if Trump went into the fake Maduro house and redid the marble, because, you know, he's an aesthetics guy.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, it's true. All right, here is your next quote.
Caller/Contestant
The blueberries are disturbingly large.
Peter Sagal
That was a nutrition expert commenting in the New York times on the FDA's new version of what very famous chart, the food pyramid. The food pyramid. That's right. It wasn't just like the strangely large blueberries in the new food pyramid people were talking about. The new food pyramid advises Americans to eat a lot of red meat and whole milk. That's what's on the top, right? Turns out MAGA stands for Make America Gout. Again.
Paula Poundstone
They want you to eat meat, but it has to come from the side of the road.
Peter Sagal
That's roadkill only. In fact, RFK Jr did say he was going to overturn federal food policy, and he literally did. They took the old food pyramid. Remember that one with the base of the grains and fruits at the bottom and pointy top, and they literally just turned it upside down. So now it looks less like a food pyramid and more like a food funnel. You're going to need some help to get all that meat in you. So it's good, though.
Bill Curtis
Beef tallow. Everybody's in the beef tallow. I thought you made candles out of that.
Peter Sagal
Me, too.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
It looks like you do.
Peter Sagal
What's interesting is they put this out with these new dietary recommendations, and a lot of it was pretty reasonable. Eat fewer processed foods, eat less sugar. Really? From this administration, you would have predicted it would be more like, the only meat you can eat is foie gras, and we need written proof the goose suffered.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
I just think leave it up to RFK to, like, recommend a serial killer diet. Cause he looks like he eats raw meat.
Peter Sagal
I think he does.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Like, wouldn't you believe that?
Paula Poundstone
Yeah. If we found out that he did, we wouldn't smack our foreheads.
Peter Sagal
True. Really? Him?
Paula Poundstone
Really?
Peter Sagal
That guy?
Bill Curtis
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
Really? No.
Paula Poundstone
Did you ever. You know. Okay. I mean, I've always been suspect of the food pyramid one way or the other.
Caller/Contestant
Right.
Paula Poundstone
I don't know if anybody's ever, you know, you get the general idea, right. When you look, you glance at it. Okay, maybe I should have more of this than that. But it actually used to say that you had to have something like 11 servings of grains a day. Has anybody ever Been able to. You wouldn't be able to go into work. You'd have to be like, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm not going to be in again tomorrow. I'm only half halfway through yesterday's grains. It never sounded practical. I guess that's the thing.
Bill Curtis
Rub a little beef tallow on it.
Peter Sagal
It'll be a slide right down.
Paula Poundstone
Yum.
Peter Sagal
Dan, your last quote is from a new type of influencer who was popular on TikTok.
Caller/Contestant
The first two hours were manageable. I felt like a monk. The remaining six hours were much harder.
Peter Sagal
That was one of many people encouraging their followers to. To stop doing what?
Caller/Contestant
Oh, jeepers. Can I get a hint?
Peter Sagal
Well, yeah. For example, you're not allowed to watch influencer videos.
Caller/Contestant
Oh, get off your phone.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, I'm going to give it to you to basically stop doing everything that distracts you and be bored. That is the plan. A number of popular influencers are pushing the idea that boredom is good for you. We need to put down our phones, get away from screens, all the distractions. Embrace dullness. Oh, man. Now I see why my kids have been trying to hang out with me more.
Paula Poundstone
You know, I'm not totally against the idea of particularly younger people being bored sometime.
Peter Sagal
Really?
Paula Poundstone
Yeah. I do think there is something to being able to think.
Peter Sagal
I agree with you because I have a five year old, a delightful young boy, and this is a habit he's gotten into. If he is. And this is a real example, getting up from the table where he's just finished his meal and just walking the 15ft to the door to put on his shoes and go do something. He says, I'm bored just walking across. You know what?
Paula Poundstone
I was at your house one time and that stretch is rough.
Peter Sagal
That's true. Not a lot going on. No.
Paula Poundstone
I don't know.
Peter Sagal
Not a lot going on.
Paula Poundstone
Maybe a poster or something.
Peter Sagal
And I'm like, Elliot, come on, you're a creative young man. You do not have to be bored walking just to the door. Just look at your phone as I do when I do the same thing. Bill, how did Dan do?
Caller/Contestant
Well, he did perfect. He's from Minnesota.
Peter Sagal
Congratulations, Dan. Well done.
Paula Poundstone
Stay safe.
Peter Sagal
Thank you.
Bill Curtis
Take care.
Peter Sagal
Thanks, everybody.
Delroy Lindo
Take care.
Peter Sagal
Right now, panel, it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Paula, Very good news for older Americans. Engineers at the University of Colorado say they have created the first ever co quote. Sexy what?
Paula Poundstone
Donut.
Peter Sagal
You don't think donuts are already sexy?
Paula Poundstone
No. The kind you sit on?
Peter Sagal
No. You are actually close because it is a medical device.
Paula Poundstone
All right. You got any other hints?
Peter Sagal
Well, I mean, like, a sexy one. You'd say, like, whoa, those legs go on forever. Right down to the tennis balls on the bottom.
Paula Poundstone
Oh, sexy walker.
Peter Sagal
Sexy walkers.
Paula Poundstone
Oh, you know what that is? We were so close to that.
Peter Sagal
Really?
Paula Poundstone
Yeah, you just gotta look at it the right way.
Peter Sagal
So the problem is, older adults who need assistive devices to walk sometimes don't want to be seen with one of the classic clunky aluminum walkers. So a lab in Colorado has created a quote, sexy One series of them. Actually, if you really want it to sound sexy, stop calling it a walker and start calling it a poly cane.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Nice.
Paula Poundstone
It doesn't sound sexy at all to me. I think walker sounds much sexier. Yeah. Wasn't there a series about a sheriff or something, and his name was Walker Walker, Texas Ranger.
Peter Sagal
He's a sexy walker right there.
Paula Poundstone
Why would you know if it was Polly Kane, Sheriff?
Peter Sagal
And the question is, if these things are, as they say, sexy, will it make the people who use them sexy as well?
Paula Poundstone
No.
Peter Sagal
Will seniors. Oh, okay.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
If he has money. All right.
Peter Sagal
The question is, will seniors be saying to each other, let me slip and fall into something more comfortable? Coming up, we need a hero in our Bluffton listener game called One Triple Eight. Wait, wait. To play. We'll be back in a minute with more. Wait, wait, don't tell me from npr.
Paula Poundstone
On NPR's wild card podcast, heavyweight host.
Peter Sagal
Jonathan Goldstein talks about his early years as a writer. I was writing, and no one was buying what I was selling. I just couldn't get anywhere. And I just kept doing it because I felt compelled to do it, like a spider spinning a web. Listen to that wild card conversation on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Have you ever thought about leaving the us Starting over somewhere new? Well, I have. And according to one poll, 40% of young women said they'd move to another country permanently if they had the chance. But why?
Paula Poundstone
Where to start?
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Listen to the It's Been a Minute podcast on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Peter Sagal
The Catholic Church, in terms of storytelling aesthetics, they got everyone beat.
Caller/Contestant
I'm Jesse Thorne on Bullseye.
Peter Sagal
Bullseye. Rian Johnson, director of the Knives Out.
Caller/Contestant
Films, talks about why the latest one is set in a Catholic cathedral, not a socal megachurch.
Peter Sagal
The churches I grew up in, you know, most of them look like Pottery Barns. That's Bullseye. Find us in the NPR app, MaximumFun.org or wherever you get your podcasts.
Caller/Contestant
From npr and wbez Chicago. This is. Wait, wait, don't tell me. The NPR News quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We are playing this week with Paula Poundstone, Joy L, Nicole Johnson, and Roy Blunt, Jr. And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theatre in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal
Thank you, Bill. Right now it is time for the. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Bluff the listener game. Call 1-88-8- wait wait to play our game on the air, how you were on. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Hi, this is Olivia from Greensboro, North Carolina. My old friend Carl Castle, of course, was from North Carolina. What do you do there? Well, I gotta chase around my three.
Paula Poundstone
Young kids, but when I do get.
Peter Sagal
Time to myself, I'll do a bit.
Paula Poundstone
Of cross stitching or antiquing.
Peter Sagal
Old granny hobbies? Well, of course. Well, it's good to start practicing now. Be ready when you need. Well, Olivia, it's great to have you with us. You're gonna play the game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction. What is the topic?
Caller/Contestant
Bill, you're a lifesaver.
Peter Sagal
Not all heroes wear capes. For that matter, not all heroes wear underwear. Looking at you, Batman. Anyway, this week we read about an unlikely hero saving a life or lives. Our panelists are going to tell you about it. Pick the one who's not lying and you will win our prize, the voice of anyone you might choose for your voicemail. Are you ready to play?
Paula Poundstone
I can't.
Peter Sagal
Wait, Wait. All right. Oh, nicely done.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Okay, Olivia.
Caller/Contestant
All right.
Peter Sagal
Let's first hear from Joelle Nicole Johnson.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
There are a myriad of industries devoted to adults fulfilling childhood fantasies. Some play tag. Others collect dolls. Yikes. The creators of Cash Kush have the largest game of hide and seek in the world. But what happens when someone hides too good? Well, that happened this week. To the chagrin of the French. An American family purchased and renovated the Chateau de Melanges castle for these childish shenanigans of 2018 and pandemic withstanding, things have been running smoothly. However, this week, a hider couldn't be accounted for. After many hours insert the aid of le Petit detectives, a 13 year old kid cracked his case. Louis Dumas is the premier hide and seeker in the area and has won competitions which exist. The clock was running against the group as a winter storm was brewing. And if the lost patron was outside, he could freeze. But in under an hour, Louis found the hider outside in the horse stables. Turns out the man had narcolepsy and fell asleep in his cozy spot buried beneath the hay. When asked for his inspiration, Louis said, I grew up reading Nancy Drew and Zahara Du Bois and I want to be a detective one day. If Inspector Clouseau can make it, so can I. Well, that bar is low, Louis. A low bar indeed.
Peter Sagal
A young French detective discovers a lost hide and seeker. Your next story of a nice save comes from Roy Blunt Jr.
Bill Curtis
It's one thing for Indiana Jones, iconic hero of the great action movie Raiders of the Lost Ark, to be desperately fleeing a giant runaway boulder. That's what you get when you steal a booby trapped golden idol. But what if you're just at Disney World taking in a live show? Happens to be the Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular and the giant prop boulder jumps its track and comes bounding toward you. The giant rubber boulder bounced menacingly right at the audience until a stagehand identified only as Robert ran out and put up a hand to stop it. He didn't allow for its being 400 pounds of rubber, so it knocked him flat. But he did deflect it from its path. That man literally saved our lives. Exclaimed someone in the crowd. That element of the show will be modified, said a Disney World spokesman. Real action hero Robert emerged bloody but unbowed.
Peter Sagal
A Disney employee saves an audience from the enormous rolling boulder in the Indiana Jones Show. And your last story of a bold rescue comes from Paula Poundstone.
Paula Poundstone
Early Souders is awfully glad dogs love Nestle Purina Dog Chow. Just after beginning his day shift at 6am at the Eden North Carolina Nestle Purina dog chow manufacturing plant, Early Souders was inspecting the silo that feeds into the machine that bags dog food when hundreds of pounds of chow tumbled down towards him. While Souders almost met his maker, some local dogs experienced heaven on earth. Dog food factories attract dogs. On any given day, workers at this plant have to wade through as many as 30 dogs of all kinds that smell the food and come on by hoping for samples. So Souders co worker Bud Schweppe had a vision. Let those dogs in. Fortunately for Early Souters, Bud Schweppe let the dogs in. And fortunately for Nestle Purina, the security cameras caught the image of 20 dogs hurtling towards a cascade of Nestle Purina dog chow and literally eating it mid air before most of it could even touch Early Souters.
Bill Curtis
Oh wow.
Peter Sagal
Okay, so Olivia, who was the true life saving hero in the news this week? Was it from Joyel Nicole Johnson, a young French boy who was able to find a person playing competitive hide and seek who hid a Little too well. From Roy Blunt Jr. A stagehand at Disney named Robert who saved the audience from the perils of Indiana Jones. Or from Paula Poundstone, a pack of dogs who managed to save a man from being drowned, smothered, buried in kibble at the Purina factory.
Paula Poundstone
Hmm. I think I'll go with Joyell's story about the hide and seek.
Peter Sagal
You're gonna Joelle's story about the competitive hide and seek in France. A guy who was only found through the detective work of a small child.
Paula Poundstone
Yep.
Peter Sagal
Let's do it. Okay. Well, to bring you the correct answer, we spoke to someone familiar with the real story.
Delroy Lindo
A 400 pound, like, fake boulder started rolling towards the crowd, and this dude jumped in front of it to save the crowd.
Peter Sagal
That was Tom De Blas. He's a professional MMA fighter. Commenting on how awesome it was that that guy at Disney World jumped in front of Indiana Jones boulder. And I'm sorry to say Joyel was lying. You did not win our prize. However, you did win a point for Joyelle, which I know makes her very happy. She's doing a happy dance. So thank you so much for playing Olivia, and thanks for calling.
Caller/Contestant
Bye Bye, Oliv.
Peter Sagal
And now the game we call not my job. Delroy Lindo is one of those actors who seems to be in everything movies like Malcolm X and the Cider House Rules and Get Shorty TV shows like the Good Fight and the Chicago Code. His latest role was in the hit movie Sinners. He joins us now. Delroy, Linda, welcome to Wait, Wait, don't tell me.
Caller/Contestant
Thank you.
Bill Curtis
Thank you very much.
Peter Sagal
I'm such a big fan of yours. I feel like I've seen you in movies and TV for a very long time, but I don't really associate you with one role. And I was wondering, do other people. Do people recognize you mostly for one thing or another?
Delroy Lindo
One thing or another meaning different audience members have different references for me based on what they've seen me do. There is not one part in particular.
Peter Sagal
That said, it has always occurred to me watching you in all kinds of different things, that your characters have a certain quality that they all share. And I actually heard you tell a story. You were on stage quite recently with your good friend Denzel Washington, and you told a story about how early on in your career you were approached by a guy on a bicycle. I think it was like you were getting a car, and that guy seemed to nail it. So I was wondering if you could tell that story to us.
Delroy Lindo
So it's okay to curse on this show.
Bill Curtis
Right.
Peter Sagal
I think people get a sense. Go right ahead. We have beeps.
Delroy Lindo
So I was parking in my car on Park Avenue. This is many, many, many, many years ago in New York City. And a bicycle messenger passed me, young African American gentleman. He stopped, backed his bike up, came to me and said, hey, man, you that actor, right? And I said, yeah, brother, Yes, I am. And he said, you know what I. You know what I. You know what I dig about you in the movies, man? And I said, what, brother? He said, don't nobody ever with you in the movies, bro.
Peter Sagal
And that. Am I right, guys? Yes.
Delroy Lindo
And as I explained to Denzel, for me, I interpreted that as him having a certain kind of respect for whatever it is he had seen me do. Yeah.
Peter Sagal
It's true. As we have mentioned, you and Denzel known each other for years, students together at the American Conservatory Theater in San Francisco, where a lot of great actors came from. He says that you gave him one of the greatest bits of advice he ever got as a young, starving actor. You said you could survive. What was it on? A loaf of wheat bread, a jar of honey, and a jar of peanut butter.
Delroy Lindo
That's how I lived when I needed to. The point being that was a kind of a go to. That one could get protein and get all of the nutrients that one needed.
Bill Curtis
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
And I want to ask immediately, though, when you first started making money, or maybe just the first time you got a paycheck for acting, what was like the. The good thing to eat, the first thing that you bought?
Delroy Lindo
Okay. You will learn this about me. I'm not going to answer the question, but I will give you an answer.
Peter Sagal
Oh, please.
Delroy Lindo
So when I made a little bit of money, when I first made a little bit of money as an actor, the thing that gave me the most joy was to be able to send money to my mom. As proof. Thank you. As proud proof that not only was I gainfully employed in a profession that my mom did not want me to enter. Right. So it was proof that I was not only gainfully employed, but I was sufficiently gainfully employed that I could send her some money.
Peter Sagal
That's nice.
Paula Poundstone
You know, I don't think you're doing that well, and I would like to adopt you.
Peter Sagal
I want to talk to you about Some Sinners, which is an amazing film, one of the biggest movies of last year, which will hopefully reap a lot of awards. This is a movie again, filled with music. Brilliant music, extraordinary music. And you play a musician.
Delroy Lindo
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
A singer and piano player. Did you have to learn? Was that Talent you brought to the table when you walked on set?
Delroy Lindo
No, I received a lot of instruction. I had one, two, three brilliant musicians, New Orleans based musicians who worked with me on my relationship to the keyboard.
Peter Sagal
Right.
Delroy Lindo
And I also had instruction on the harp, the harmonica. So I had a lot of instruction.
Caller/Contestant
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
Do you still play now that the movie is all wrapped in the past?
Delroy Lindo
No, I have. God bless them. The producers gave me the. One of the. The keyboards. I've been so busy, frankly, I haven't had a chance to get back to it.
Peter Sagal
I don't know, man. If you don't practice, you may not.
Delroy Lindo
Absolutely.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, I know. It's true. I want to ask you this before we move to our game, which is. We understand that one of your legacies as your youth in Britain is that you were a big fan of soccer. I am, man. U. Right.
Delroy Lindo
All day long.
Peter Sagal
All day long, man. You. I mean, you're a pretty prominent guy. Has the team honored you? Have they had you there? I mean, they have a lot of.
Delroy Lindo
Fans, but, man, they have not. And give them a call.
Peter Sagal
I will only. I know. Are you. Are you then very excited for the upcoming World Cup?
Delroy Lindo
I am, yeah. I really, really am, yeah. Very, very much so. I'm not sure. I don't have tickets yet. Anybody in the audience who has influenced it, give me a call. Yeah, I'm really excited. I'm really excited. Yeah.
Peter Sagal
It's a sad thing when you. Someone like you has to ask us.
Delroy Lindo
Yeah, right.
Peter Sagal
Do you have any divided loyalties? You grew up in England. You live here is where your career has been. Are you going to be rooting, you know who you're rooting for?
Delroy Lindo
Actually, that's a really good question. And I would say the answer do I have divided loyalties? I would say I'd like to see the English team do well. I'd to like. I'd like to see the American team do well. So I guess I've got my feet on both sides of the fence there.
Peter Sagal
Okay. You're going to be torn if it comes down to those two teams.
Delroy Lindo
It will not.
Bill Curtis
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
I was about to say no.
Caller/Contestant
No way.
Delroy Lindo
It's not going to happen, man.
Peter Sagal
No, that's not. I'm hardly a fan and even I know that is not going to happen. It's not going to happen. No. Well, Delroy Lindo, it is a pleasure to talk to you and we have invited you here today to play a.
Caller/Contestant
Game and we are calling it Sinners Meet the Saints.
Peter Sagal
So you star in the movie Sinners, as said so we thought we'd ask you today three questions about Saints, specifically the New Orleans Saints of the NFL, which, if you're not a fan in this last season 2025 improved on the prior year's 512 record by going 6 and 11. So if you answer two to three questions correctly, you will win our prize. One of our listeners, the voice of anyone from our show they might like on their voicemail. Bill, who is the great Delroy Lindo.
Caller/Contestant
Playing for Kevin Harmon of Detroit, Michigan?
Peter Sagal
Here's your first question. The Saints have been playing in the NFL since 1967, and for the first few decades, they weren't very good. After a 1 and 15 season in 1980, disappointed fans in New Orleans started calling them. What? A the New Orleans ain't, B, the New Orleans taints, or C, the Houston Saints?
Delroy Lindo
I'm gonna say the New Orleans taints.
Peter Sagal
I wish it were, but it was the New Orleans ain'ts. I'm afraid they took the S off New Orleans ain'ts. They ain't very good. Here's your next question, though. You still have two more chances. The Saints are credited with an innovation in pro football. What was it? A, they were the first team to hire a choreographer for their end zone dancers. B, they were the first team to have a fan in the stands wear a paper bag over his head from embarrassment. Or C, they were the first team to make uniform pants tighter to increase fan appeal.
Delroy Lindo
Am I allowed to ask for the right answer from somebody in the audience?
Peter Sagal
You are welcome to poll the audience, but the audience is yelling B. I'm.
Delroy Lindo
Going with B also.
Peter Sagal
That is B. Yes. The man first to put a bag on his head out of embarrassment while watching a football game was named Mike Delberto. He was a Saints fan and sometimes broadcaster. He was the first to do it, but hundreds soon followed. All right, here's your last question. You get this right, Delroy, you win it all for one of our listeners. The Saints at one point seemed to have a rather unlikely fan. Who was it? A, Pope Francis who regularly accidentally tagged the team while trying to tweet about the other kind of Saints. B, a very popular burlesque dancer in NOLA who changed her name to the nude Orleans Saint. Or C, a man who remained loyal to the team despite proposing to three different women on the jumbotron on three different occasions and getting rejected by all of them.
Delroy Lindo
The Pope.
Peter Sagal
The Pope is right. Yes. Pope Francis, devout man, devoted to the Catholic Saints, but not very good at Twitter. He kept tagging the New Orleans Saints whenever he would praise the saints of the Catholic Church. Bill, how did Delroy Lindo do in our quiz?
Caller/Contestant
2 out of 3 is a winner, which proves don't f with Delroy.
Peter Sagal
There you go. Delroy Lindo, one of our great actors. He appears in Sinners, which will be up for a lot of awards, a million other things we have loved and admired over the years. Delroy Lindo, thank you so much for joining us. I'm Wait, wait.
Caller/Contestant
Delroy, Great.
Peter Sagal
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Caller/Contestant
Trump, NPR and WWEZ Chicago. This is Wait, wait, Don't tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We're playing this week with Roy Blunt Jr. Paula Poundstone and Joyell Nicole Johnston. And here again is your host at these two Debates Theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal
Thank you so much, Bill. In just a minute, New year Old Game. It's our Listener Limerick Challenge. If you'd like to play, give us a call at 1-88-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-9-24-8924. Right now, panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Joya Last month we lost an automobile engineer named Jim Moylan. He died at the age of 80. Now, Mr. Moylan was an UN heralded hero because he was the man who brought us what huge advance in car design.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Airbags?
Peter Sagal
No, not airbags. You use it far more often, I hope, than you use your airbags.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Seat belts?
Peter Sagal
Nope.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
The brakes.
Peter Sagal
That's right. Until Mr. Moylan came around in the 1980s, people would just drive their cars and if they needed to stop it, they would just, just point it at some hard object and hope that it was anchored to the ground.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
I use my sunroof a lot.
Peter Sagal
Not the sunroof. I'll give you a hint.
Paula Poundstone
Okay.
Peter Sagal
Every time you find yourself not having to try to stretch the gas line all the way around your car, you can say a little thank you to.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Him oh, the little arrow.
Peter Sagal
The little arrow? Yes, the little arrow on the dashboard that tells you which side of the car that fuel tank is on.
Paula Poundstone
I didn't know that existed.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Did he have a trademark on that or a patent?
Peter Sagal
Well, he was working for Ford. He came up with it. Where would we be without this? Trying to pump gas into blank sheet metal, that's where. Right. You're thinking, okay, maybe I'm just supposed to punch through it like the top of a juice box. Back in the 80s, Moylan worked for Ford Motors. And one day he got soaked in the rain right as he walked around to fill up his car to find out that the gas can was on the other side. So he wrote a memo to his bosses suggesting that they put little arrows on the fuel gauge on the dashboard, telling the driver which side the fuel cap was on. And they did it. Brilliant. So that's how we get what is still called the Moylan Arrow as well as the Moylan umbrella.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
The irony is, I've had my car for five years and I still use that arrow.
Peter Sagal
Yes, that's it. We all do.
Paula Poundstone
I never have seen.
Peter Sagal
Seen that.
Paula Poundstone
I didn't even know.
Bill Curtis
I'm going to go home tonight and find out whether I've been filling up the car on the right side.
Peter Sagal
Paula. Sir, I'm sure, like a lot of people, you would like a Brazilian butt lift, but.
Paula Poundstone
I think it's just a matter of money. That's the only thing. It's the only thing that's kept.
Peter Sagal
You do it. You do it, but you just can't stand the idea. Synthetic fillers in your body. Well, good news. You can now inject yourself with fat harvested from what?
Paula Poundstone
I don't know. Is there. Is it from another animal, I assume no.
Peter Sagal
Well, technically, yes, an animal, but no from a person.
Paula Poundstone
You can get celebrity butt fat.
Peter Sagal
Only if.
Paula Poundstone
God, I would love that.
Peter Sagal
Would you really? What celebrity do you have in mind?
Paula Poundstone
Would not love that. The whole Brazilian butt.
Peter Sagal
It's not celebrities. Although it could be a celebrity. They just have to be dead. Oh, God.
Bill Curtis
Yes.
Peter Sagal
They're harvesting fat from dead people for Brazilian butt lifts.
Paula Poundstone
Well, they're not using it.
Peter Sagal
That's the point.
Caller/Contestant
Yeah.
Paula Poundstone
Yeah. What is it? They're not shaking it.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, no, it sounds. It sounds maab to have dead people's fat injected into your bottoms, your bottom. But it can be beautiful. Imagine the healing power you could give a grieving family by letting them slap grandpa's ass just one more time.
Bill Curtis
I wonder how soon.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Right?
Bill Curtis
Yeah. I mean, how long does it last?
Paula Poundstone
Yeah.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Does it expire?
Peter Sagal
You gotta get that.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Is it like fresh?
Peter Sagal
Well, technically. Does it expire again? This makes me want to like, scribble in an addendum on my organ donor card. Right?
Paula Poundstone
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
Use my heart, use my lungs, whatever. But if you inject my fat into a skinny rich person's buttocks, I am going to haunt them.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
I could be so skinny in the casket.
Peter Sagal
That's true. Here's the funny though. If your own butt fat has value after your death, can you put it in your will? I would like to divide my butt equally to each of my beloved children. One badonk.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
To make money.
Peter Sagal
You could. Yeah.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
And leave that to your people.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, I know.
Paula Poundstone
Do you have to insure it like how violinists insure their hands? You insure violin.
Peter Sagal
If you had a fabulous butt, you would insure it.
Paula Poundstone
What do you mean if.
Peter Sagal
If some other person. I don't know.
Paula Poundstone
If y' all have seen the NPR calendar.
Peter Sagal
Coming up. It's lightning. Fill in the blank. But first, it's the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air, call or leave a message at 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. You can see us most weeks right here at the Studebaker Theater in downtown Chicago. Or you can catch us on the road. You can find tickets and information about all our live shows@NPRPresents.org hi, Erin. Wait, wait, don't tell me.
Bill Curtis
Hi, Peter.
Caller/Contestant
This is Maren.
Peter Sagal
Hey, Maren. Where are you calling from? Olympia, Washington. Olympia, Washington. I love Olympia, Washington. I have good friends who live there. It's a lovely place. What do you do there? I am a program analyst for U.S. department of Transportation. Oh, really? Okay. That's good. How are things in transportation these days? Things are going. Yeah, they're transporting. What more need you say? Well, welcome to the show, Marian. Bill Curtis is going to read you three news related limericks with a last word or phrase missing from each. If you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly and two of the limericks will be a big winner. You ready to play? Yes. Here is your first limerick.
Caller/Contestant
There's a species of colorful lizards who seem to be game playing wizards. When searching for partners, they're brave, strong or smarter for mates, they play rock, paper, scissors.
Peter Sagal
Right. A new study finds that the side blotched lizard. When they're not wondering why we didn't name them literally anything else, plays rock, paper, scissors. Sort of. So the way it works is males of this species can grow up to be either orange, blue or yellow. And when it comes to being chosen by mates, orange always wins out over blue. Blue always wins out over yellow, but yellow always wins out over orange. Right? It's a complex evolutionary adaptation that ensures the survival of their species and helps them decide who is the designated driver. I think it's a fascinating story about an illusion. And further, scientists observed that because orange beats blue, right? Blues will sometimes team up to defeat an orange, in some cases even dying while protecting an ally in the fight to mate.
Paula Poundstone
Lizards do not do the poly thing.
Peter Sagal
No, no. As far as I know, they do not. All right, Marin, here is your next limerick.
Caller/Contestant
There is free use of Spot Dick and Jane with Miss Marple. They're sipping champagne. Sam Spade, Nancy Drew, they're all joining the crew. Cause they're all in the public domain domain.
Peter Sagal
Yes. Film, music, literature that was copyrighted in 1930 has now entered the public domain. You know what that means. Get ready to see your beloved classic turned into a slasher film. Porn or slasher porn. Nancy Drew books are on the list, along with the Dick and Chain, along with the Dick and Jane children's books.
Paula Poundstone
Well, it's going to be called Dick and Shane now.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, it is. Don't have to change the title. Other works include the Little Engine that Could. All of a sudden, everything sounds dirty in this context. What's interesting is that whenever this happens, it happened a couple years ago with Winnie the Pooh. The first thing people do is make a horror movie.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Oh, Winnie the Pooh.
Peter Sagal
Horror movie, slasher.
Bill Curtis
Oh, they did.
Peter Sagal
Nancy Drew, Serial Killer.
Bill Curtis
The New Testament.
Caller/Contestant
Ends badly.
Peter Sagal
Yeah. Here is your last limerick.
Caller/Contestant
My weekends no longer are fun days, so I'm getting a head start on Monday. I am not at my best with two days of rest, so I'm starting my work week on Sunday.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, Sunday. More and more workers are getting a head start on the work week by working on Sunday. They say it's a way to. I see we have some dedicated Christians in the room and I appreciate that day of rest. Former workers are getting a head start on the work week by working on Sunday. They say it's a way to alleviate the nerves and big workload they are walking into on Monday. Perfect. No more Sunday scaries. Now you have Saturday scaries. People say it gives them the chance to work without the distraction of phone calls, slacks, and interruptions from their colleagues, constantly saying Mondays. Am I right?
Bill Curtis
I've done a lot of work on Sundays, but it's from putting it off all week.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, that's the problem.
Paula Poundstone
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I meant I wrote many a fine book report on Sundays when I was growing up.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Wait, they're going to work from Sunday.
Peter Sagal
And then they go into work on Monday?
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Yeah, but then just Saturday is their only day off.
Paula Poundstone
No, but these people start slacking on Thursday.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
I hope so. Slack at your jobs, people.
Peter Sagal
Yeah. And she means don't work. She doesn't mean get on slack.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
I didn't even know slack was a job thing. Because I don't have a job.
Peter Sagal
Exactly. Bill, how did Maren do in our quiz?
Caller/Contestant
Winner. Winner. Winner. Congratulations.
Peter Sagal
Well done, Maren.
Caller/Contestant
Thank you so much.
Peter Sagal
Thank you so much for playing. Now onto our final game. Lightning. Fill in the blank. Each of our players will have 60 seconds in which to answer as many fill in the blank questions as they can. Each correct answer now worth two points. Bill, can you give us the scores?
Caller/Contestant
Roy and Paula each have two, and Joyell has four.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Big money. Big money.
Peter Sagal
Well, you're leading. Going away. So Roy and Paula are tied. Roy, why don't we say you should go first? Here we go. The clock will start when they begin your first question. Fill in the blank. During his court appearance in Brooklyn, New York on Monday, Blank pleaded not guilty to drug and weapons charges.
Bill Curtis
Oh, the president of Venezuela.
Peter Sagal
Right. Nicolas Maduro. This week, the white House said it's still considering using military force to take control of blank.
Bill Curtis
Greenland.
Peter Sagal
Right. On Monday, BYD overtook Tesla as the number one seller of blanks electric car. Right. This week, a salvation army bell ringer outside a supermarket in Florida took a break from collecting donations to to rob the store. Note. Who tried to impale the store manager with the stand that the donation bucket was hanging from. On Thursday, researchers said that regular exercise may be as effective as therapy at treating Blank.
Bill Curtis
Moping around.
Peter Sagal
I'm going to give it to you. It's depression. After 19 years of marriage, Keith Urban finalized his divorce from blank on Monday.
Bill Curtis
Nicole Kidman.
Peter Sagal
Right. This week, a man in Italy sued a restaurant after their promotional TikTok video.
Bill Curtis
Showed him blanking, chewing, really in an awful manner with his mouth open.
Peter Sagal
No more embarrassing. The TikTok video they put out to advertise their restaurant showed this man having an affair. The man thought he was far enough away from his house when he chose the restaurant where he'd have dinner with his mistress, but didn't realize they were filming a promotional video for TikTok, which his wife saw shortly after it was posted. The next time he cheats, he sworn to do it somewhere where there are too many people around him for him to be picked out of a crowd, you know, like a Coldplay concert.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
It was a fun day.
Peter Sagal
Bill, how did Roy do in our quiz?
Caller/Contestant
Well, he got five rights, 10 more points, total of 12, which puts him in the lead.
Peter Sagal
All right, you're up next, Paula.
Paula Poundstone
I'm ready.
Peter Sagal
Fill in the blank. On Monday, the justice department revealed that they'd released only about 1% of the blank files.
Paula Poundstone
EPC.
Peter Sagal
Right. On Thursday, the house agreed to vote on an extension to blank subsidies.
Paula Poundstone
The ACA text.
Peter Sagal
Yes. Obamacare. This week, the number of available blanks in the US Hit their lowest level in a year.
Paula Poundstone
Available jobs.
Peter Sagal
Yes. On Monday, Pete Hegseth said he was cutting senator blank's military retirement pay.
Paula Poundstone
Kelly.
Peter Sagal
Right. This week, police again have arrested someone for possessing a bag full of drugs that were stored in a bag labeled blank.
Paula Poundstone
Bag full of drugs.
Peter Sagal
No, it was labeled. No, no, Paula, they're smarter than that. It was labeled. Definitely not a bag full of drugs.
Paula Poundstone
Damn it.
Peter Sagal
According to a new study, users of blanks regained their lost weight after about 18 months.
Paula Poundstone
Those shots like Ozempic Concepts. Yeah.
Peter Sagal
GLP wants their call. Citing health concerns, NASA announced that the current crew of the blank would return to earth earlier than expected.
Paula Poundstone
The crew up on the space show.
Peter Sagal
Right. This week, a thief who stole two mandolins from a music store in New Jersey returned them along with a note that read, blank.
Paula Poundstone
I stole these accidentally.
Peter Sagal
No. The note with the stolen and returned mandolins said, quote, sorry, I been drunk. Merry Christmas. The owners of the music store were shocked to find the two stolen mandolins returned to the store along with a note that blamed the theft on the thief being drunk. Can you imagine how drunk you have to be, though, to suddenly think it's a good idea to start a Mumford and sons cover band? Bill, how did Paula do in our quiz?
Caller/Contestant
Six. Right. 12 more points and total of four. 14. Yay.
Peter Sagal
All right.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Yes. My favorite part of the game.
Peter Sagal
How many does Joyell need to win?
Caller/Contestant
5 to tie. 6 to win.
Peter Sagal
Here we go. All right, Joyell, here we go. This is for the game. This Tuesday marks the fifth anniversary of the insurrection at the blank.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Oh, the capitol.
Peter Sagal
Right. On Monday, a senator from Ohio proposed a law making dual blank illegal citizenship. Yeah. This week, the CDC warned that doctors visited. Doctors visits for the blank have reached the highest level in 25 years. Doctors visits for the blank plague, the flu. On Monday, board members for the corporation for blank voted to dissolve the organization.
Delroy Lindo
Hilton.
Peter Sagal
No. The corporation for public broadcasting. This week, a man in China sued his employer after they fired him for blanking while at work.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
Taking a nap?
Peter Sagal
No, taking four hour bathroom breaks. The company says they fired the employee.
Joyell Nicole Johnson
He was probably taking a nap up in there.
Peter Sagal
Could be, but he says not. The company says that they fired the employee because he was regularly taking 4 hour long bathroom breaks while on the clock. Fair. Okay. But when they're that long, aren't you technically taking work breaks from pooping?
Joyell Nicole Johnson
That's the kind of employee I support.
Peter Sagal
Absolutely. Bill, did Joyel do well enough to win two?
Caller/Contestant
Right. Four more points.
Peter Sagal
Eight.
Caller/Contestant
Nine is the word. Virgil.
Peter Sagal
There you go.
Caller/Contestant
But it's Paula.
Bill Curtis
Paula.
Caller/Contestant
Think about Paula. The winner.
Peter Sagal
In just a minute, we're going to ask our panelists to predict now that we have a new food pyramid, what will be the next new food to go on sale? But first, let me tell you all that. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Is a production of NPR and WBEZ Chicago in association with Urgent Haircut Productions. Doug Berman, Benevolent Overlord Philip Gicker writes our limericks. Our public address announcer is Paul Friedman. Our tour manager is Shana Donald. Thanks to the staff and crew at the Studebaker Theater. BJ Lederman, composer Athena program is produced by Jennifer Mills, Miles Dornboss and Lillian King. Special thanks this week to Mohannad Elshe and Monica Hickey. Peter Gwynne is definitely not a bag full of drugs. Emma Choi is our visual host. Technical direction is from Lorna White. Our CFO is Colin Miller. Our production manager is Robert Neuhaus. Our senior producer is Ian Chillock. And the the executive producer, Wait, wait, don't tell me. Is Mike Danforth. Now, panel, thanks to our new food pyramid. What will be the next new food product on the market? Joel Nicole Johnson, pig feet, hog mas and chitlins.
Bill Curtis
Roy Blount Jr. A variety of meat flavored M and Ms.
Peter Sagal
And Paula Poundstone.
Paula Poundstone
Beef tallow ice cream.
Bill Curtis
There you go.
Caller/Contestant
Well, if any of that happens, we're going to ask you about it on. Wait, wait, don't tell me.
Peter Sagal
Thank you, Bill Curtis. Thanks also to Joel Nicole Johnson and Roy Blunt Jr. And Paula Poundson, thanks to our fabulous audience here at the Studio Baker Theater in downtown Chicago, Illinois. Thanks to all of you for listening, wherever you might be. I'm Peter Sagal. We'll see you next week. This is npr.
This episode of NPR's Wait Wait... Don’t Tell Me! continues the show’s unique blend of current events quiz, topical humor, and lively panel discussion. The centerpiece is an interview with acclaimed actor Delroy Lindo, star of the recent film Sinners, alongside regular games and audience participation. Hosted by Peter Sagal, with panelists Joyell Nicole Johnson, Roy Blunt Jr., and Paula Poundstone, the episode delivers an engaging mix of news satire, celebrity insight, and offbeat stories.
Segment: 00:52–02:39
Segment: 02:40–10:08
Participants identify the source or context of topical quotes.
Venezuelan Invasion
“…they took the slogan no blood for oil and put a comma in it. No, blood. For oil.” (03:17, Peter Sagal)
“That is so McDonald’s.” (04:27, Paula Poundstone)
FDA Food Pyramid
“Now it looks less like a food pyramid and more like a food funnel.” (06:40, Peter Sagal) “Leave it up to RFK to recommend a serial killer diet. Cause he looks like he eats raw meat.” (07:13, Joyell Nicole Johnson)
Boredom as a Trend
“I’m not totally against the idea of particularly younger people being bored sometime.” (09:12, Paula Poundstone) “Now I see why my kids have been trying to hang out with me more.” (09:07, Peter Sagal)
Segment: 10:16–13:17
Segment: 14:04–20:43
“A 400 pound, like, fake boulder started rolling towards the crowd, and this dude jumped in front of it to save the crowd.” (20:07, Delroy Lindo)
Segment: 20:43–31:01
Lindo discusses iconic roles, the broad range of character recognition, and a formative encounter:
“You know what I dig about you in the movies, man?...Don’t nobody ever f*** with you in the movies, bro.” (22:09, Delroy Lindo)
Talks about helping out his mother with his first acting paycheck:
“The thing that gave me the most joy was to be able to send money to my mom...” (24:01, Delroy Lindo)
Lindo credits New Orleans musicians for teaching him musical skills for the role:
“...three brilliant musicians...worked with me on my relationship to the keyboard…and I also had instruction on the harp, the harmonica.” (25:10, Delroy Lindo)
Reveals his soccer loyalty:
“Man U. All day long.” (26:03, Delroy Lindo)
Lindo answers New Orleans Saints trivia, winning the game:
Segment: 37:50–48:20
“If you inject my fat into a skinny rich person’s buttocks, I am going to haunt them.” (36:22, Peter Sagal)
On embracing boredom (boredom trend):
“I do think there is something to being able to think.” (09:18, Paula Poundstone)
Delroy Lindo on being recognized:
“Don’t nobody ever f*** with you in the movies, bro.” (22:09, Delroy Lindo retelling a fan encounter)
Peter Sagal on the food pyramid:
“Now it looks less like a food pyramid and more like a food funnel.” (06:40, Peter Sagal)
Panel’s food product predictions (closing):
This episode carries all the hallmarks of Wait Wait... Don’t Tell Me!—topical satire, a surprisingly informative quiz, and a memorable interview with Delroy Lindo—in prime form. The jokes are sharp, the stories offbeat, and the celebrity guest both warm and insightful. If you missed this week, not only do you get surprisingly useful facts ("the Moylan Arrow" for your gas tank!), you'll leave with a smile and some great lines to share.