WWDTM: Ibtihaj Muhammad

Summary

Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! Episode: WWDTM: Ibtihaj Muhammad Release Date: June 21, 2025 Host: Peter Sagal Location: Studebaker Theater, Fine Arts Building, Chicago, Illinois

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Introduction

The episode kicks off with Peter Sagal warmly welcoming listeners back to another lively edition of NPR's beloved news quiz show, Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! Filmed at the picturesque Studebaker Theater in Chicago, Peter sets the stage for a fun-filled hour featuring a mix of humor, current events, and engaging games.

Listener Quiz: Andrew from Vancouver

Timestamp: [01:20]

Peter introduces the first contestant, Andrew from Vancouver, British Columbia. Andrew shares a lighthearted anecdote about potty training his young child, prompting Peter to exchange humorous advice on effective reward systems. This segment highlights the show's signature blend of personal stories and playful banter.

• Andrew: "Well, I have two kids, one of which we're trying to potty train right now."
• Peter Sagal: "What do you use, if anything as a reward for successfully using the potty? We tried stickers. High fives seem to work really well."

Meet the Panelists

Timestamp: [02:51]

Peter introduces the panel for the week:

• Hari Kondabolu: A comedian known for his insightful and often provocative humor.
• Rachel Koster: Gained fame from the hit TikTok show Boy Room.
• Jeff Hiller: A comedian and actor recognized from HBO's Somebody Somewhere and author of Actress of a Certain Age.

News Quiz Game

Timestamp: [03:36]

Bill Curtis, the show's announcer, presents Andrew with three news-related quotes. Andrew successfully identifies two out of three, winning the game.

1. Quote from Venice, Italy: "We can't miss a chance to disrupt a $10 million wedding."

   • Peter Sagal: "That would be Jeff Bezos. Longtime girlfriend Lauren Sanchez is finally going to make an honest man out of him."
   • Andrew's Reaction: Expresses frustration about the grandiosity of Bezos's wedding plans.

2. Quote about a new Trump phone: "We'll deliver long distance calling and all American service."

   • Peter Sagal: "Yes, the Trump phone will cost $500 and features a unique keyboard without lowercase letters."

3. Quote on summer trends: "Get your highlighters ready."

   • Peter Sagal: Jokes about people opting for lectures over typical summer activities like concerts, highlighting a fictional trend of "Lecture on Tap."

• Andrew: "Three days. The wedding's going for three days?"
• Panel Reaction: Rachel Koster: "I can't believe he's getting married. I thought he was anti union."

Result:

• Andrew: Correctly identified two out of three quotes, winning the prize.

Bluff the Listener: Carrie Roberts from Utah

Timestamp: [14:17]

Carrie Roberts from North Ogden, Utah, takes on the game "Bluff the Listener," where panelists present stories, and she must discern the truth from fiction.

1. Story by Hari Kondabolu: Festival attendees at the Download Festival in Leicestershire were warned against wearing smartwatches as mosh pits triggered emergency alerts.
2. Story by Rachel Koster: At Govball, a New York City music festival, bored attendees created improvised basketball hoops, leading to viral videos.
3. Story by Jeff Hiller: The Peanut Music Festival in Texas couldn't afford portable toilets due to inflated costs of biocides, leading to unique attendee strategies.

• Carrie Roberts: Chooses Hari's smartwatch story as the true one.
• Outcome: Hari's story is verified as true, awarding Carrie the prize.

Celebrity Interview: Ibtihaj Muhammad

Timestamp: [20:11]

The highlight of the episode is an in-depth interview with Ibtihaj Muhammad, the first Muslim American woman to win an Olympic medal and a pioneer in saber fencing. Peter delves into her inspiring journey, from starting fencing at age 13 to overcoming challenges as a Muslim athlete wearing a hijab.

• Peter Sagal: "You've said you were inspired to compete early by your older brother who used to challenge you to do things and then beat you all the time. Is that true?"
• Ibtihaj Muhammad: "Growing up in a large family with one brother, competition was natural. My brother's challenges definitely brought out my fierce competitor from an early age."

The conversation touches on her dedication, the importance of representation, and her role as a sports ambassador and best-selling author.

• Ibtihaj Muhammad: "When I started fencing, it just felt like home from the very beginning."

Listener Limerick Challenge: Nina from New Jersey

Timestamp: [38:45]

Nina from Point Pleasant Beach, New Jersey, participates in the Limerick Challenge. She is tasked with filling in missing words from humorous limericks related to current events.

1. Landline Limerick:

   • Limerick: "It's no smartphone, but better than hand signs... so instead we're installing a _______."
   • Answer: "Landline."

2. Sleep Jacket Limerick:

   • Limerick: "Soft sounds from my hood make my REM cycle good... so I nap well with the help of this _______."
   • Answer: "Jacket."

3. Shower Peeing Limerick:

   • Limerick: "In hot drizzle, you rinse for an hour... It's unhealthy to pee in the _______."
   • Answer: "Shower."

• Nina: Successfully completes the challenge by filling in all three missing words.
• Panel Reaction: Celebrates her win with laughter and applause.

Final Game: Lightning Fill in the Blank

Timestamp: [43:58]

The episode culminates with the high-energy "Lightning Fill in the Blank" game, where panelists rush to complete sentences related to the week's news.

• Rachel Koster leads with impressive speed, scoring the highest points.
• Jeff Hiller clinches the victory by answering six questions correctly, earning him the title of the episode's champion.

Notable Examples:

1. Question: "This week, NASA said that a giant asteroid has a chance of hitting the _______ in 2032."

   • Answer: "Moon."

2. Question: "According to a new lawsuit, weight loss drugs like _______ are causing vision loss."

   • Answer: "Ozempic."

3. Question: "This week, a game of disc golf in South Carolina was interrupted when _______ fell from the sky and onto the course."

   • Answer: "A shark."

• Jeff Hiller: Demonstrates quick thinking and accurate responses, securing his win.

Closing Remarks

Peter Sagal wraps up the episode by acknowledging the hard work of the panelists and congratulating Jeff Hiller on his victory. He also teases upcoming live shows in Salt Lake City and Western Massachusetts, encouraging listeners to join in the fun.

• Peter Sagal: "Thank you to Hari Kondavolu, Rachel Koster, and Jeff Hiller. And thanks to all of you for listening. We'll see you next week."

The episode concludes with advertisements and promotional segments, maintaining the show's engaging and entertaining spirit.

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Key Takeaways

• Engaging Content: The episode seamlessly blends humor, current events, and personal stories, creating an entertaining and informative experience.
• Dynamic Panel: The diverse panelists bring unique perspectives and comedic flair, enhancing each segment's appeal.
• Inspiring Interview: Ibtihaj Muhammad shares her remarkable journey, serving as an inspiration for aspiring athletes and advocates for representation in sports.
• Interactive Games: Listener participation through quizzes and challenges fosters a sense of community and engagement.

Notable Quotes:

• Ibtihaj Muhammad: "When I started fencing, it just felt like home from the very beginning." [23:24]
• Peter Sagal: "You're one of those cool people who's like standing next to whoever the VIP is and nobody even messes with you because you're so intimidating." [21:45]
• Andrew: "What do you do in that beautiful place?" [01:20]

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Transcript

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[Bill Curtis]

From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is. Wait, wait, don't tell me. The NPR News quiz. I'm the voice. So creamy you better take some lactate. Bill Curtis is the name and here is your host at the Studebaker Theater at the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal.

[Peter Sagal]

Thank you, Del. Thanks, everybody. Thank you so much. It's great to be back with you. We do have a great show for you today. Later on, we're going to be joined by champion. Thank you, fencer Ibtihaj Muhammad, who was a pioneer in multiple ways, the first Muslim American woman to win an Olympic medal, the first black woman to win an Olympic medal in saber fencing, and the first celebrity guest. I have insisted come to our show unarmed, but I'm not afraid of you. So give us a call to play our game in the air. The number is 1-888-wait, wait. That's 1-888-924-8924. Now let's welcome our first listener contestant. Hi. You're on. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Hi, Peter. It's Andrew from beautiful British Columbia, Vancouver. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, wow. Got that right. Now, normally, wouldn't one say Vancouver, British Columbia? Or is that like a weird Canadian thing you guys do? You say the promise first? No, no. I just got nervous. I'm assuming we can edit that. All right. What do you do in that beautiful place?

[Andrew]

Well, I have two kids, one of which we're trying to potty train right now. So in my spare time, I work.

[Peter Sagal]

In health care here. Local. Can I ask a question? Because I've recently been through this. What do you use, if anything as a reward for successfully using the potty? We tried stickers. High fives seem to work really well. I'm just going for enthusiasm at this point. Yes. I applaud you for touching their hands.

[Andrew]

That's great.

[Peter Sagal]

Andrew, it's great to have you on our show. Let me introduce you to our panel this week. First up, a comedian headlining the plus in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, August 16th and 17th and the hereafter in Seattle September 5th through the 7th is Hari Kondabolu. Next, you know her from the hit TikTok show Boy Room, it's Rachel Koster.

[Rachel Koster]

Hi, Andrew.

[Peter Sagal]

Hi, Rachel. And making his debut on our panel, if not on our show, a comedian and actor. You know from somebody somewhere on hbo. His new book is called actress of a certain age. It's Jeff Hiller. Hi, Andrew.

[Jeff Hiller]

High five.

[Peter Sagal]

Well, welcome to the show. Andrew, you're going to play who's Bill this time. Bill Curtis is going to perform for you. Three quotations from this week's news. Your job, simply identify or explain two of them. You will win our prize. Any voice from our show, you might choose in your voicemail. Are you ready to go? As I'll ever be. Okay, here we go. Your first quote is from an agitated resident of Venice, Italy. This week.

[Bill Curtis]

We can't miss a chance to disrupt a $10 million wedding.

[Peter Sagal]

What billionaire's multimillion dollar wedding is making everyone in Venice mad? Oh, wow. I have no idea. Could I get a hint? Sure you can. Well, they considered getting married in the Amazon, but that would be too on the nose. Oh, Bezos. Yes, Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos. Yes, Jeff Bezos. Longtime girlfriend Lauren Sanchez is finally going to make an honest man out of him. You know, it's really kind of hard for me to joke about this because I just love, love. The very big wedding is scheduled for next week in Venice, and people there are furious that he is using the their ancient city as an event venue. Bezos, though, has convinced Ms. Sanchez that every single word the crowds are shouting at them is just Italian for mazel tov. It's really going to be great when the minister at the wedding says, if anybody has any reasons why this couple should not be wed, please join the mob outside.

[Andrew]

Three days. The wedding's going for three days?

[Peter Sagal]

Yes.

[Andrew]

What are they, Indian? This is ridiculous. Three days. And we all paid for this.

[Peter Sagal]

We did.

[Andrew]

We all paid 116 pack of Charmin at a time.

[Peter Sagal]

Exactly. You're right. This is why your fee for prime went up five bucks. So he could afford, you know, the extra canapes.

[Rachel Koster]

I can't believe he's getting married. I thought he was anti union. It seems like a total bluff.

[Peter Sagal]

Wow.

[Andrew]

The Venetians are up in oars about this and there wasn't an appropriate place to put that joke earlier in the segment. Strategically put it here, hoping it could be edited in later.

[Peter Sagal]

All right, here is your next quote.

[Bill Curtis]

We'll deliver long distance calling and all American service.

[Peter Sagal]

That was the Trump Organization. Yes. Announcing their brand new $500 gold colored. What? Cell phone. Yes. Their new phone, the Trump phone. Trump is now selling a phone and wireless service. The phone will be 500 bucks in painted gold. Tech watchers who are trying to piece together the specs on it say the battery life won't be great, but that's the price you pay for being an early adopter of the first ever phone that runs on coal. Being a Trump phone, it will come with unlimited texting as part of the plan. And it will have the first ever keyboard to not have any lowercase letters.

[Andrew]

It's just so gaudy. My God. I mean, also, I would never. But still, like, I would have to.

[Rachel Koster]

Say, the aesthetics do appeal to me. I think it's extremely fancy. Gold does make my teeth look whiter and my smile brighter.

[Jeff Hiller]

I fell for the stakes. I fell for the college.

[Rachel Koster]

I fell for the ties, the teddy bear toy bank.

[Jeff Hiller]

Yeah, I have much, so much Trump crypto corn. But I'm not getting the phone. Fool me once, then you can do it three more times. But that's it.

[Peter Sagal]

That's it. All right, here is your last quote. It's about, apparently, what is the hot new thing that young people are doing this summer?

[Bill Curtis]

Get your highlighters ready.

[Peter Sagal]

That's a headline in the cut about how this summer people are lining up not for concerts or comedy or sporting events, but for what? Reading. Reading? Yes. To study. They're going to lectures. People are flocking to bars in cities around the country to listen to lectures. Hey, you want to get dressed up, do some Mali and compare the impact of the Coptic and Assyrian churches in the fourth century? P.S. you would. I should have. That is true. Trying to break your hearts. We made that up. That's not happening. I'm sorry. There's one big series in New York called Lectures on Tap that is expanding across the country. Every time they announce a series, they sell out. It's taking off as a great summer activity because your lecture body is a lot easier to maintain than your beach body.

[Andrew]

This is old news. Lectures and bars, that's happened for years. They're called Hari Kondabolu comedy shows.

[Peter Sagal]

Thanks. Are you. Are you jealous that there's no. None of these people who appear in talking bars have any obligation to be funny.

[Andrew]

I have no obligation to be funny.

[Peter Sagal]

You do it as charity.

[Andrew]

Once I get the check, it's on you.

[Jeff Hiller]

I think, as someone who is on the brink of 50, that this sounds amazing. And I hope that they start at 3 and they end by 5pm I hope you still get cool credit for it. And you can have like, one beer and then just, like, a water to properly hydrate and then you go home and you get to bed by 8:30.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah.

[Jeff Hiller]

That sounds like a rager to me.

[Peter Sagal]

And if you're really hip and you get invited to the after lecture, that's over by nine.

[Jeff Hiller]

Ooh, that's a crazy night.

[Andrew]

Instead of IPAs, are they serving GPAs? Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thank you.

[Peter Sagal]

As you said, Hari, no obligation to you. No obligation.

[Andrew]

I'm here.

[Peter Sagal]

Bill, how did Andrew do in our quiz?

[Bill Curtis]

2 out of 3. Which means he has won.

[Peter Sagal]

Congratulations. Thanks, guys. Thank you so much for playing. Good luck with the potty training. And remember, they're going to get it before they go to college. Probably. Probably. Take care. Thank you. Bye. Bye, panel. Now it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Hari, a new dating service has this amazing innovation. They match people based on their. What?

[Andrew]

Race?

[Peter Sagal]

No.

[Rachel Koster]

That'S hinge.

[Andrew]

Height?

[Peter Sagal]

No.

[Andrew]

Blood type?

[Peter Sagal]

No.

[Andrew]

Peter, I might need a hint.

[Peter Sagal]

You might. And I have one for you. And yes, it counts even when you're in incognito mode. Rachel's jaw just dropped. She can't believe it. But it's true.

[Andrew]

Name your browser history.

[Peter Sagal]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Oh, these people are sick. They're sick.

[Peter Sagal]

This service called Browser Dating uses people's last 5,000 Internet searches to find the perfect match for them. Think about the time you will save on a first date when both of you start off knowing in detail exactly what's wrong with each other.

[Andrew]

I have never thought, like, oh, man. I'm looking for a woman that loves to read baseball references for hours at a time. Well, looking up old statistics.

[Peter Sagal]

But wouldn't that be great? I mean, because the idea is I.

[Andrew]

Want someone who makes me better. That's not bad.

[Peter Sagal]

Coming up. Do not go to Lollapalooza without listening to our Bluff the Listener game first. It's a matter of safety. Call 1, 8, 8, 8, wait, wait, don't play. We'll be back in a minute with more of. Wait, wait, don't tell me. From NPR.

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[Bill Curtis]

From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, don't tell Me the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We are playing this week with Hari Kondabolu, Jeff Hiller and Rachel Coster. And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal.

[Peter Sagal]

Thank you, Bill. Thanks everybody. Right now it is time for the Wait Wait, don't tell Me Bluff the listener game called 1888-Wait-Wait. To play our game in the air or check out the pinned post on our Instagram page. That's atwaitnpr. Hi, you're on Wait, Wait, don't tell me.

[Carrie Roberts]

Hi, this is Carrie Roberts. I'm calling from North Ogden, Utah.

[Peter Sagal]

North Ogden, Utah, a beautiful place. We're actually coming out to Utah at the end of July to do a show in Salt Lake City. We're looking forward to it. What do you do there?

[Carrie Roberts]

I actually work for Weill Cornell Medicine in New York City remotely. I work in the Office of Faculty Affairs.

[Peter Sagal]

Oh really? So you have. You work in New York City but you live in Utah? That is a pretty good deal. Mm. Kerry, welcome to the show. You're gonna play the game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction. Bill, what is Kerry's topic? Bottaroo La Palooza summer music festivals are coming up. That's where you go to hear great new bands and play that classic game alcohol poisoning or heat stroke. But our panelists are gonna tell you about a surprise that some music festival attendees this summer will be facing. Pick the one who's telling the truth and you'll win our prize. The wait waiter of your choice on your voicemail. Are you ready to go? I'm ready. Let's do it. First, let's hear from Hari Kondabolu.

[Andrew]

Prior to this year's Download music Festival in Leicestershire, England, local police put out a statement asking fans not to wear smartwatches. The problem? Last year, people moshing while wearing smartwatches triggered the watch's collision detectors, which sent out automated emergency 999s. 999 is the UK version of 911 because they are less creative than we are. In a Facebook post, the police said their resources were strained because all those calls had to be assessed to ensure there is no threat, risk or harm. Little did they know moshing means there is lots of threat, risk and harm. But by choice, this request not to wear smartwatches was particularly aimed at fans of festival headliners and new metal pioneers Korn, who are known for their intense mosh pits. Weezer is also playing at the festival, but this is less of a concern considering mosh pits at a Weezer concert are just nerds bumping into each other and apologizing.

[Peter Sagal]

People going to the Download festival in the UK being told to take off their smartwatches. Your next story of Music Festival Michigan comes from Rachel Coster.

[Rachel Koster]

Watch out for flying balls, says Founders Entertainment after a recent craze took over Govball, a New York City music festival, in June. Bored with nothing to do while their girlfriend screamed about hating their exes at the Olivia Rodrigo concert, groups of young men gathered to practice their three point shoots. We couldn't bring in real hoops, said a very drunk Kyle Randall. So we made Short Nick sit on Tall Austin's shoulders and we paid him 25 bucks to put his arms out like a hoop. While everyone took turns dunking, the noises from the game were heard throughout the concert. Videos of rowdy games have gone viral and the risk is high that bored boyfriends are getting ready to ball out. At festivals across the country, security companies in charge of Lollapalooza, Riot Fest and more have been warned to look out for deflated balls, tire pumps and combinations of short and tall friends.

[Peter Sagal]

Bored men making basketball hoops while other bored Guys literally dunk on them. Your last story of a concert concern comes from Jeff Hiller.

[Jeff Hiller]

For the past 26 years, the peanut Music Festival has celebrated the gift of folk music in the town of Nacogdoches, Texas. The festival attracts as many as 4,000 people. And as the saying goes, 4,000 people is 4,000 buts. But this year, all those buts are posing a problem. Supply chains have greatly affected businesses everywhere, and Big Porta Potty is no exception. Chemicals used in the blue dyed biocides in portable toilets have become so expensive that the Peanut Festival can no longer afford to rent the public utilities. The festival sent an email to ticket holders informing them that there would be no access to privies, johns or turlets. They included a map of the nearby wooded areas for quote number ones and encouraged attendees to adopt a low fiber diet in the days before the festival. That's a hard ask for the folk music crowd where the Average person is 90% sprouts. Festival spokesperson Tim Doleman commented, people say this is extreme, but come on, this is something literally a baby can do.

[Peter Sagal]

All right, so if you're getting ready to go to a music festival this summer, you have to be on the lookout for what is it? From Hari Kondaboulou. Be careful about wearing your smartwatch in the mosh pit. From Rachel, be aware of bored guys forming basketball hoops, one short guy on top of a tall guy, as their friends try to dunk. Or from Jeff Hiller. If you're going to the Peanut Music Festival in Texas, bring your own facilities. Which of these is the real story of a festival concern we found in the news?

[Carrie Roberts]

I am going to go with Hari's story of the mosh pit triggering the smartwatches.

[Peter Sagal]

All right. The audience seems to agree. From the look of them, they've spent a lot of time in mosh pits. Right, guys? Yes. All right, your choice then is Hari's story. Well, to bring you the real story, we spoke to a journalist very familiar with it. The dynamic of a mosh pit is people running into each other. Full help. So I guess it kind of simulates the speed and sudden stop. That was UK based mosh pit documentarian Christopher Bethel talking about the smartwatch alerts going off at the Download festival. Congratulations. You got it right. Hari was in fact telling the truth. You have won our prize and Hari has earned a point. Congratulations. Thank you. Bye bye. And now the game we call not my job. Ibtihaj Muhammad took up fencing at the age of 13 and went on to become a three time All American at Duke University before winning five consecutive world medals in 2016, she was named one of times most influential people and won a bronze medal at the Rio Olympics where among other things, she became the first American woman to compete and win in a hijab. She is now a sports ambassador and a best selling author and we hope moonlights as a pirate. Ibtihaj Muhammad, welcome to Wait, Wait, don't tell me.

[Carrie Roberts]

Thank you so much for having me. I feel like pirate would be fun, but in my mind I'm more of a bodyguard really.

[Peter Sagal]

You're one of those cool people who's like standing next to whoever the VIP is and nobody even messes with you because you're so intimidating.

[Carrie Roberts]

Really. I'm just like the protect, like the fierce protector of my mom and my sisters.

[Peter Sagal]

Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I'm always interested in the origin stories of very elite athletes. You've said you were inspired to compete early by your older brother who used to challenge you to do things and then beat you all the time. Is that true? At least early on? Right.

[Carrie Roberts]

Well, you know, I'm the middle of five kids and I have one brother and we're only 18 months apart. And it just, I think naturally when you grow up in a large family, things are just naturally competitive. Like we would, you know, race each other in the pool, you know, you want to get the last slice of pizza. Just small things like that where I feel like you're just in like small competition. And I do feel like having an older brother who used to bully me a little bit definitely brought out this fierce competitor from an early age.

[Peter Sagal]

Right? Yeah. And I just out of curiosity, has your brother ever won an Olympic medal in anything? Just checking.

[Carrie Roberts]

Love for him to hear that.

[Peter Sagal]

You were good at a lot of sports, but you gravitated to fencing. And how did that happen to be.

[Carrie Roberts]

Happened to be driving past a high school in my hometown and from Maplewood, New Jersey in the car with my mom. And from the road you could see fencers in the school cafeteria. And my mom was like, I don't know what it is, but they're covered. So I want you to do it.

[Peter Sagal]

Wait a minute. She had no idea what they were doing. They were just wearing head to toe outfits with a mask. You were like, that's for you.

[Carrie Roberts]

He thought they were wearing helmets. So that's how little we knew about fencing at the time. But you know, I was a kid who would eventually wear hijab and I really struggled trying to find my space in different sports when I was just always out of uniform, in a sense.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah.

[Carrie Roberts]

And when I started fencing, it just felt like home from the very beginning.

[Peter Sagal]

Right, and you picked up sabre. Of the three weapons, it is by far the coolest. Am I correct?

[Carrie Roberts]

Oh, the best for sure.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah.

[Carrie Roberts]

I don't even know what the other weapons are.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah, exactly. Who cares about that? There are those guys over there who are pointing knitting needles at the. Each other for some reason.

[Carrie Roberts]

All these silly rules fast than the other weapons.

[Peter Sagal]

I was once, very briefly a very bad fencer. And I've known some fencers and invariably they are the most intense athletes I have ever met. Are you one of those fencers who I've seen many times, who after every successful point just goes nuts, just like shouts and screams and victory? Or are you more of a quiet assassin type?

[Carrie Roberts]

In my mind, I'm quiet assassin, but then I watch video and I'm like, oh, my God.

[Peter Sagal]

Oh, yeah, that was a blood curdling cry there. Yeah. Oh, wow.

[Carrie Roberts]

Or like cute mountain lion. That's what I'm.

[Peter Sagal]

Cute mountain lion. So they're like charmed as you, like, dice them up. I love it. Does that ever. Does that kind of competitiveness ever cross into the rest of your life?

[Carrie Roberts]

You know, it's. I feel like I have like a. I don't know if it's like ocd, but I have this. Everything has to be perfect. And I really struggle when things aren't exactly the way that they're supposed to be. Whether I'm, you know, fencing or, I don't know, mowing the lawn. Whatever it is, I really need it to be perfect.

[Peter Sagal]

I understand. I just imagine you just mowing the lawn. And after every row, I've gotten really into this, really into the, like, lawn mowing.

[Carrie Roberts]

It's weird. It's one of those weird things that. That's something no one would know about me but my family. We recently just lost my dad and I was like, I could pay someone to do it. No, I'll do it.

[Peter Sagal]

Right.

[Carrie Roberts]

Gotten into, like, lawn mowing.

[Peter Sagal]

So you're like, you're the first to get to the lawn. You're the last to leave the lawn.

[Carrie Roberts]

I will say that my parents have the best lawn on the block.

[Peter Sagal]

I imagine you've earned many medals and other honors, but one of the most impressive to me is that you were one of the women immortalized as a Barbie. I'm imagining. Do you. I have to assume you have a Barbie of yourself somewhere, right?

[Carrie Roberts]

Oh, man, I have so many of them. Like, I was 10. What if I. I was like, if I have a bunch of kids and my sisters have a bunch of kids, then we need like 100 Barbies.

[Peter Sagal]

Yes. And people from Mattel were like, I'm sorry, excuse me. Well, Ibtihaj Muhammad, it is a of particular pleasure to talk to you, and we have asked you here to play a game we're calling take a stab at this. You used to stab people professionally, so we thought we'd ask you about other people taking a stab at something that is trying something for the first time. Answer two or three questions correctly, you'll win our prize. For one of our listeners. Bill, who is Ibtihaj Muhammad playing for?

[Bill Curtis]

Shawn Pratt of Madison, Wisconsin.

[Peter Sagal]

All right, ready to go.

[Carrie Roberts]

I got this, Shaun.

[Peter Sagal]

Here you go. Here's your first question. In 2019, a woman in Turkey took a stab at flying for the very first time. It didn't go great, though, because shortly after she got to the airport, she did what? A, sat down on the luggage conveyor belt thinking it would take her to the plane. B, got onto the plane and sat down in the first empty seat she saw the co pilots or C drank an entire bottle of vodka in the security line when she was told she couldn't bring it on board.

[Carrie Roberts]

Well, first of all, she's crazy. That we know. Assume she got on the conveyor belt.

[Peter Sagal]

She got on the conveyor belt. Take her to the. She sat in the co pilot seat or she drank an entire fifth or whatever of vodka because she couldn't bring it on the plane.

[Carrie Roberts]

I'm so stressed out for her. I'm gonna go with C. You're gonna.

[Peter Sagal]

Go with C. That was a little strange, but okay. I'm afraid you all were wrong. You should feel terrible about yourself. It was actually. I'm speaking to them. It was a. This is what happened. Think about it. She goes. She's never been there before. She goes to the airport, she checks her bags. They take the bag, they turn around, they put it on that conveyor belt. That takes it behind the scenes to the plane. She goes, great, thank you. She climbs over, gets on it herself. All right, you still have two more chances. Here we go. All right, here's your next question. At 18 years old, Brendan Shanahan decided to try professional hockey. And one of the first things he did was get in a fist fight against fellow hockey player Rick Vave. Why was it A, he'd heard of the first thing you're supposed to do in a hockey game is find the biggest guy on the rink and punch him in the nose. B, because Rick Vave had just broken up with his older sister. Or C, because four years earlier he had asked Vave for an autograph and Vave had refused anything about hockey. See, it was C. He had asked V for an autograph. Babe says, get away from me, kid. And the next thing you know, it's five years later, they're on a rink somewhere and he gets punched in the face. All right.

[Carrie Roberts]

That C sounded so aggressive. I feel like I had to say C. I know.

[Peter Sagal]

I don't know what they would have done if you hadn't chosen that. So you were wise. All right, one more question. If you get this right, you win.

[Carrie Roberts]

Oh my gosh.

[Peter Sagal]

People should not be alone for the first time when they try getting high. Like one woman who started texting all her friends about what? A, how Crate and Barrel should be called Barrel and Crate. B, how really good it feels to put a wet Q tip up your nose. C. About how sorry she was for thinking mean things about all of them, which she proceeded to list. Oh, oh.

[Carrie Roberts]

I see. I heard B. Does the panel have anything to say?

[Rachel Koster]

Yes, B. I just heard it in my. I just heard it in my ear.

[Carrie Roberts]

Let's go with B and we'll send Sean home with some.

[Peter Sagal]

You're right, it's B.

[Rachel Koster]

But I also could have guessed in real life. It does feel good to do that.

[Peter Sagal]

Bill, how did Ibtihaj do our in?

[Bill Curtis]

She is a perfectionist. So she got two out of three, which is a win.

[Peter Sagal]

Congratulations. One more for your trophy case. What a thrill to talk to you. Ibtihaj Muhammad is a retired US Olympic fencer, the founder of Luella by Ibtihaj, and the author of three best selling children's books. More info about all the things that she does can be [e-mail] Ibtaj Muhammad, what a joy to talk to you. Thank you for joining us. Congratulations on everything you've done and we'll look for and more. Take care. Thank you. Thank you. Bye bye. In just a minute, the scariest shower scene since Psycho in our Listener Limerick challenge. Call 1- Triple-8-WAIT wait to join us in the air. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait Wait, don't tell me from npr.

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[Bill Curtis]

From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, wait, don't tell me the NPR News quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We are playing this week with Rachel Custer, Jeff Hiller and Hari Kondabolu. And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theater in Show, Chicago, Illinois, Peter Seidel.

[Peter Sagal]

I sound so mysterious all of a sudden. In just a minute, like limericks, you haven't come to the right place. You've come to the only place. If you'd like to play the listener Limerick Challenge, give us a call at 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. Now it's time for a game we.

[Bill Curtis]

Call the Trump Dump. New Poll Edition.

[Peter Sagal]

As nothing of any significance is happening in the world right now, this week the president held an elaborate public ceremony to show off two 88 foot tall flag poles he's had installed at the White House. So we're going to ask you some questions about this monumental event. Rapid fire. True, False. Right. For each right answer, you get a point. Ready to go. Here we go. Hari. True or false. On Tuesday, President Trump said, these are the most magnificent polls ever made.

[Bill Curtis]

God.

[Peter Sagal]

It's true, right, Rachel, True or false? He then praised the polls for being tall. True.

[Rachel Koster]

True.

[Peter Sagal]

Yes, Jeff. True or false. On Wednesday, he told reporters, quote, these are the best polls anywhere in the country or the world.

[Jeff Hiller]

Oh my God, it's true.

[Peter Sagal]

Yes. Hurry choose. True or false? As workers installed the flag poles, he said, quote, it's such a beautiful pole. It's true. Yes, it's true, Rachel, True or false. He watched construction workers install the poles for almost an entire hour.

[Carrie Roberts]

True?

[Peter Sagal]

Yes, Jeff. True or false. The placement of the new poles makes it possible for the presidential helicopter to land on its normal location.

[Ibtihaj Muhammad]

False.

[Peter Sagal]

Exactly right. The polls make it impossible for Marine One, the presidential helicopter, to land in its normal location on the White House lawn. No one knows where they are now going to land that helicopter, but that's okay because we have two great poles. Oh, they're beautiful.

[Rachel Koster]

The best in the world.

[Peter Sagal]

Beautiful. Polls, thanks for playing the Trump dump Super poll edition right now, Panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Hari, a corporate exec writing to the New York Times business advice column, said that a job candidate recently brought his what to a job interview.

[Andrew]

Snake.

[Peter Sagal]

No.

[Andrew]

Child.

[Peter Sagal]

Yes. Actually, what? Not just his entire family. A hiring manager was shocked when a potential employee brought, quote, their spouse and several children to a job interview. Imagine looking to hire someone and walking into the conference room and seeing 12 family members all wearing matching T shirts saying, Gerald's 30th job interview.

[Andrew]

I mean, if you were to say, I really need this job.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

My family.

[Peter Sagal]

I guess having your family there could help you with some of the questions. Like when you're asked what your biggest weakness is, you can just point at your worst child.

[Jeff Hiller]

I mean, if I were the interviewer, I would. I would do it. I would feel guilty.

[Peter Sagal]

You, really?

[Jeff Hiller]

Yeah. I've got hungry mouths. Not just at home, but also right here to feed. Yeah. I'd be like, oh, take my money.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah, you're hired. Yeah. All of you are hired.

[Jeff Hiller]

Yes.

[Peter Sagal]

Because you're a good person.

[Jeff Hiller]

Yes. And I also believe in child labor.

[Peter Sagal]

Have you guys actually had the classic job interview where you've dressed up and gone in and chatted with somebody? Yes.

[Rachel Koster]

One time I had a job interview and the woman pulled up my Twitter because it was a PR company and whatever my last tweet was about was like something about farting or something, and I didn't get the job. I think it was also, like, some political stuff that she disagreed with, which, honestly, I stand by what I said. But I'm just going to point out.

[Peter Sagal]

You don't know what she said.

[Carrie Roberts]

That could be crazy.

[Rachel Koster]

I was like, everyone should get it going.

[Peter Sagal]

Coming up. It's lightning. Fill in the blank. But first, it's the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air, call or leave a message at 188. Wait, wait. That's 1-888-924-8924. You can come down and see us here most weeks at the Studebaker Theatre in Chicago or catch us on the road this summer. We'll be in Salt Lake City July 31 and at Tanglewood in Western Massachusetts on August 28. Woo indeed. Woo indeed, my friend. For tickets and Information to all of our live shows go to nprpresents.org and if that's somehow still not enough of us, well, find us on TikTok. We're at. Wait, wait. NPR. Hi, Jerome. Wait, wait, don't tell me.

[Carrie Roberts]

Hi everybody, this is Nina from Point Pleased beach, New Jersey.

[Peter Sagal]

Oh, at the Jersey Shore, right? Yeah. That's great. What do you do there?

[Carrie Roberts]

I am the director of outreach for the Barnegat Bay Partnership, which is one of 28 national estuary programs in the country designated to restore, educate and protect about estuaries of national significance.

[Peter Sagal]

Wow, that was the most well practiced answer I've ever gotten. Very impressed. I have no more questions. You pass. Thank you. Go on your way. Well, welcome to the show, Nina. Bill Curtis is going to read you three news related limericks with a last word or phrase missing from each. If you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly on just two of the limericks, you'll be a winner. You ready to go?

[Carrie Roberts]

Let's do it.

[Peter Sagal]

Let us do it. Here is your first limerick.

[Bill Curtis]

The receiver's good. You'll understand. Fine. It's no smartphone, but better than hand signs. When you type with your thumbs, you get stressed out and dumb. So instead we're installing a landline.

[Peter Sagal]

Landline, yes. Parents of preteen kids who are worried about the downside of smartphones but still want their children to, to be able, able to talk to their friends have found an innovative solution. It's a remarkable kind of telephone that supports voice to voice communication. And even better, it's chained to the wall so they can't go anywhere. The kids don't know how much they are going to love actually talking on the telephone because it's kind of unsatisfying to go, you stopped texting first. No, you stop texting first. No, you stop texting first.

[Andrew]

I just had like a million flashbacks of my parents picking up the phone or my dad, like reprimanding who was on the other end. Like, you say please when you want to speak to my son. I just, I don't know if I want to. Well, actually, no, I wouldn't be reliving it. I'd be the father, right? Oh, yeah, I'm into this idea.

[Peter Sagal]

All right, here is your next limerick.

[Bill Curtis]

When the world starts to make a big racket, I zip up in a snug puffy packet. Soft sounds from my hood make my REM cycle good. I nap well with the help of this jacket.

[Peter Sagal]

Jacket. Yes. It may look like a normal giant puffer coat, but it is the zzzn Sleep Apparel System. A jacket designed to help you go to sleep anywhere you happen to be. And no, it is not just a normal parka with all the pockets filled with ambient. So this high tech sleep system has built in audio and lighting to lull you to sleep. Still awake, no worries. Call customer support and the company will send someone over to knock you out the old fashioned way.

[Andrew]

It looks like a jacket.

[Peter Sagal]

Yes.

[Andrew]

And it keeps you warm the way a jacket would.

[Peter Sagal]

It does. Yes.

[Andrew]

But it has lots of wires in it.

[Peter Sagal]

It does.

[Andrew]

I don't know about all this.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah, I don't know. Well, it does help you sleep by creating a very quiet environment because the moment you put it on, everyone stays 20ft away from you. Sweat cocoon. All right, here is your last limerick.

[Bill Curtis]

In hot drizzle, you rinse for an hour so your bladder walls weaken their power before grabbing soap. Use the toilet, you dope. It's unhealthy to pee in the shower, right?

[Peter Sagal]

That's right. I'm sorry to tell you, experts say the thing that 40% of people admit to doing and 100% of people actually do is bad for your bladder health. Doctors say that peeing in the shower eventually trains your bladder to just automatically empty. When you hear the sound of spraying water. Now, you might think that's ridiculous, right? No, it couldn't be the case. But then you're at the hair salon and the stylist says, lean back over the sink so we can wash your hair. And all of a sudden you have to double the tip.

[Andrew]

What do you do when you have to go and you're in the shower? You're supposed to like, aim it at the toilet from the shower, turn off.

[Rachel Koster]

The water, hear silence, and then turn it back on once you've gone.

[Andrew]

I suppose that's ridiculous.

[Rachel Koster]

I was worried it was gonna be something about like standing up, but no, it's just like Pavlovian.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah. Remember, I mean, we're training your bladder and you don't want to do that. But on the other hand, what if you train your bladder to shake and roll over and maybe fetch? Bill, how did Nina do on our quiz?

[Bill Curtis]

Oh, she got them. All right.

[Peter Sagal]

Congratulations.

[Carrie Roberts]

Thank you.

[Peter Sagal]

Take care and thanks for playing.

[Carrie Roberts]

All right, thank you, guys.

[Peter Sagal]

Bye. Bye.

[Bill Curtis]

Bye.

[Andrew]

Foreign.

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[Peter Sagal]

Now onto our final game. Lightning Fill in the blank. Each of our players has 60 seconds in which to answer as many fill in the blank questions as they can. Each correct answer now worth two points. Bill, can you give us the scores?

[Bill Curtis]

Hari has five. Rachel and Jeff each have four.

[Peter Sagal]

All right, Hari has five. Okay. Rachel and Jeff are tied for second, and you guys are going to go first. I'm going to arbitrarily pick Rachel. Here we go. The clock will start when I begin your first question. Fill in the blank. On Wednesday, Israel launched an airstrike against a nuclear facility in blank. Tehran in Iran. Yeah. And Monday, the Supreme Court upheld Tennessee's ban on blank affirming care for trans youth.

[Rachel Koster]

Um, affirming care.

[Peter Sagal]

Gender affirming care. Right. This week, NASA said that a giant asteroid has a chance of hitting the blank in 2032.

[Jeff Hiller]

Earth?

[Peter Sagal]

No, sadly, the moon. Okay. Damn it. This week.

[Rachel Koster]

This week, a monkey in a. I start saving.

[Peter Sagal]

This week, a monkey in Hong Kong was caught on camera destroying blank cameras. No, destroying a sign warning people not to feed the monkeys. On Tuesday, the set. The Senate passed an act aimed at regulating Bitcoin and other blanks.

[Rachel Koster]

Crypto.

[Peter Sagal]

Right. Cryptocurrencies. According to a new lawsuit, weight loss drugs like Blank are causing vision loss.

[Rachel Koster]

WeGovy.

[Peter Sagal]

Yes. And Ozempic. This week, the head of a waste management company in Sweden once called the Queen of Trash, is headed to prison because she took the trash she was in charge of disposing and blanked.

[Rachel Koster]

Uh, sold it.

[Peter Sagal]

No, she just left giant piles of it all over Sweden.

[Rachel Koster]

Bad girl.

[Peter Sagal]

Bad girl. On Tuesday, Fariba Vancouver, who called herself the Queen of Trash, was convicted on 19 counts of environmental crimes. Prosecutors called her waste management business a pyramid scheme. And they're right in that the Giant trash piles she left all over Sweden were kind of pyramid shaped. Bill, how did Rachel do in our quiz?

[Bill Curtis]

Four. Right. Eight more points, total to 12. Rachel, you did well. You're in first place.

[Peter Sagal]

All right, Jeff. Oh, gosh. Jeff, you're up next. Humor. Here we go. Fill in the blank. According to a new report, by 2034, Blank will not be able to pay out full monthly benefits.

[Jeff Hiller]

Social Security.

[Peter Sagal]

Right. During a routine test, another one of Blank's rockets exploded on the launch pad.

[Jeff Hiller]

SpaceX.

[Peter Sagal]

Right. This week, Brad Lander, City Comptroller and one of the mayoral candidates in Blank was arrested by Ice.

[Jeff Hiller]

Oh, true.

[Peter Sagal]

No, in the. I'm looking for Blank. Oh, name of the city.

[Carrie Roberts]

Oh.

[Peter Sagal]

New York. Right. On Tuesday, over 200 people waiting for aid in Blank were injured by Israeli fire.

[Jeff Hiller]

Palestine.

[Peter Sagal]

Gaza. Yeah. This week, a game of disc golf in South Carolina was interrupted when Blank fell from the sky and onto the course.

[Jeff Hiller]

An asteroid?

[Peter Sagal]

No, a shark.

[Jeff Hiller]

Oh, you know what? Shame on me. Shame on me.

[Peter Sagal]

On Tuesday, the owner of the LA Dodgers agreed to to buy majority ownership of the LA Blanks for $10 billion.

[Jeff Hiller]

Lakers.

[Peter Sagal]

Yes, the Lakers. According to a new study, regularly smoking Blank may be worse for your heart than cocaine.

[Jeff Hiller]

Marijuana.

[Peter Sagal]

Marijuana. Right. This week, a man in Texas was shocked to discover that his ex had secretly blanked after they broke up.

[Commercial Announcer]

Died?

[Peter Sagal]

No, had secretly married him after they broke up. According to police, the woman somehow convinced a passenger to certify a wedding certificate without the man being there, which she then filed with the county clerk. So they're married. The man only found out about it because his wife mailed him a copy of the marriage certificate along with this is true. A gift bag from Bath and Body Works.

[Jeff Hiller]

Insult to injury.

[Peter Sagal]

I know, Bill. How did Jeff do in our quiz?

[Bill Curtis]

Jeff, this is hard to believe for a newbie, but you got six, right? 12 more points. 16 puts you in the game.

[Peter Sagal]

Yay. So how many does Hari need to win?

[Bill Curtis]

Six. Go for it, Hari.

[Peter Sagal]

Here we go. Six to win. Here we go, Hari. This is for the game. On Thursday, President Trump once again delayed the ban on social media app Blank TikTok. Right. This week, the National Weather Service warned of record breaking temperatures as a Blank dome covers the US Heat Dome. Yes, Heat Dome. On Monday, a recall order was placed on some brands of Ready to Eat fettuccine Alfredo linked to a Blank outbreak. E. Coli listeria. After multiple thefts of their street signs, residents of Blank Road in the UK are demanding police take action.

[Andrew]

Abby.

[Peter Sagal]

No. Daddy Hole Road. On Tuesday, the Florida Panthers won their second consecutive, consecutive blank cup.

[Andrew]

Stanley Cup.

[Peter Sagal]

Later on Tuesday, the Florida Panthers cracked and dented their blank cup right following a number of dangerous incidents, a shopping center in the UK has imposed a speed limit on blank shopping carts. No mobility scooters. After a shocking number of collisions and near misses, the Idlewell Shopping Centre in the UK announced a four mile an hour speed limit on all mobility scooters. I can't wait until someone's caught speeding, tries to make a run for it and a chase breaks out between a mobility scooter and a security guard doing a brisk walk. Bill did Hurry do well enough to win.

[Bill Curtis]

He got four right for eight more points, total of 13. Jeff is the winner.

[Peter Sagal]

Oh my goodness. First time's the charge. Wow.

[Jeff Hiller]

You know, I'm the first one here and I'm the last one to leave.

[Peter Sagal]

In just a minute, we're going to ask our panelists to predict what will be Jeff Bezos favorite wedding present. But first, let me tell you. Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Is a production of NPR and WBEZ Chicago in association with Urgent Haircut Productions. Doug Berman, benevolent Overlord Philip Gaudicker writes our limericks. Our public address announcer is Paul Friedman. Our tour manager is Shayna Donald. Thanks to the staff and crew at the Studebaker Theater. BJ Ledem has composed our theme. Our program is produced by Jennifer Mills, Miles Dornboss and Lillian King. Special thanks to Mohamed El Sheikhi and Monica Hickey. Peter Guin is our flagpole installer. Emma Choi is our vibe curator. Technical direction is from Lorna White. Her CFO is Colin Miller. Our production manager is Robert Newhouse. Our senior producer is Ian Shillog. And the executive producer of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is Michael Danforth. Now, panel, what will be Jeff Bezos favorite wedding present he gets next week?

[Andrew]

Hari Khandabolu, a prenuptial agreement for his first match marriage.

[Rachel Koster]

Rachel Coster, he's going to get his first kiss.

[Peter Sagal]

Aw.

[Jeff Hiller]

And Jeff Hiller, a space trip for the boys.

[Bill Curtis]

Well, if any of that happens, panel, we'll ask you about it on Wait, Wait, don't tell me.

[Peter Sagal]

Thank you, Bill Curtis. Thanks also to Hari Kondavolu, Rachel Coster and Jeff Hiller. And thanks to all of you for listening. I'm Peter Sagal. We'll see you next week. This is npr.

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