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Alzo Slade
From NPR in WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, wait, don't tell me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Alzo Slade, the man they bring in when the show conflicts with Bill Curtis's daily mani pedi. And here's your host at the sagerstrom center for the Arts in Costa Mesa, California, Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal
Thank you, Alzo. Thank you, everybody. Thank you so much. We are delighted, we are absolutely excited to be here in Orange County. Now that is a beautiful part of Southern California where people are always quick to tell you that, no, no, no, this is not la. Unless, of course, the Dodgers happen to win the World Series. Later on, we're going to be talking to Chef Roy Choi, the man who pretty much created the modern food truck scene. But first, we want to find out what you're cooking up. The number to call to play our games is 1-888-wait, wait, that's 1-888-924-8924. Now let's welcome our first listener contestant this week. Hi. You're in. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Hi, this is Tammy. I'm from Flagstaff, but I'm immigrating to Portugal. Oh, okay. You're like, all right, you wanted us to know that up top. So in case we went to find you, we know we'd be out of luck. Okay. So right now you're in Flagstaff, Arizona. What do you do there? My husband and I were both retired teachers. Right. What did you teach? We were both music teachers. You were? Oh, I don't make fun of music teachers. You guys, you guys are like teaching them like wizardry and magic and I think that's awesome. Tammy, welcome to the show. Let me introduce you to our panel this week. First, say hello to a comedian and writer for TV shows like Netflix's A Man on the Inside out with a second season on November 20th. It's Karen Chee.
Karen Chee
Hi, Danny.
Peter Sagal
Hi, Karen. Next, a comedian you can see on his Grateful Bread Stand up tour. You can find info@tompapa.com that's right. It's Tom Papa.
Tom Papa
Hi.
Peter Sagal
Hey, Tom. And you can see her in Washington, D.C. at the Atlas Performing Arts Center. And the Muslims Are Coming Stand Up Comedy show on December 12th. It's Nagin Farsad.
Negeen Farsad
Hey, Nagin.
Peter Sagal
So, Tammy, welcome to our show. This week, you, of course, are going to play who's Alzo this time? Alzo Slade, filling in. Fiplo Curtis is going to read for you three quotations from this week's news. You know the rules. All you need to do is identify or explain. Two of them. Two out of three. You'll win our prize, the voice of anyone you might choose from our show. Are you ready to go? I think so. I hope so, because it's happening. Yeah, that's true. Your first quote is somebody being gracious on election night Tuesday.
Alzo Slade
I wish Andrew Cuomo only the best in private life, but let tonight be the final time I utter his name.
Peter Sagal
So who will be too busy being mayor of New York to talk about Andrew Cuomo? That's Manandi. Close enough. Mamdani. Mamdani. Mamdani. Wait a minute. Is the mayor himself there correcting you? Yes, it was Zoran Mamdani. The election was one of a number of big races Democrats won on Tuesday, and in New York, they were absolutely giddy about it. People were walking down the street going, hey, I'm walking here. And isn't it great?
Negeen Farsad
I am so excited to say that I cast a vote for mom Donnie, because I live in New York City. You do. And I just want to say it was my first time voting for a muzz. That was exciting.
Peter Sagal
That was exciting.
Negeen Farsad
You know? And look, he's going to be sworn in as mayor on January 1, which means January 2. Sharia law. Am I right, everybody?
Peter Sagal
Did you see this? I was wondering, especially Negeen, if you saw this, that Mamdani brought his parents to the victory party on Tuesday night, which was adorable, really. But people are already saying he's too young for the job. It does not help that he did his victory speech wearing a daddy's little mayor T shirt.
Tom Papa
Well, that's what's so exciting, is that we actually have someone in office whose parents are still alive.
Peter Sagal
Yes.
Negeen Farsad
But knowing a thing or two about immigrant parents from the east, they're probably still still disappointed that he's not a doctor.
Karen Chee
It is nuts to have such a young politician. Like, he's young enough that he met his partner on Hinge, who he's married to. Which is crazy, because I feel like he's inspiring everybody to get more civically involved, and he's inspiring me to get back on the apps.
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Peter Sagal
All right, here is your next quote.
Alzo Slade
Bring on the Doritos.
Peter Sagal
Now, that was the Wall Street Journal reacting to the surprising news that what fancy, healthy supermarket chain is going to start selling junk food? I would go with whole Foods. That's a very good choice. Whole Foods. Yes. Finally, Whole Foods, famous for their, you know, healthy foods, will be selling Pepsi and Doritos and Chips Ahoy Cookies. Oh, I'm sorry, that is, of course, free range Chips Ahoy Cookies.
Negeen Farsad
But I kind of object to the characterization that they don't already sell junk food. They sell junk food. It's just in packaging that looks like it has a master's degree.
Alzo Slade
Right?
Negeen Farsad
Exactly, exactly.
Tom Papa
When they brought in Pirate's Booty, I knew something was up. Like, these people, they're up to something. But I mean, to be, you know, I get it. These are times that are tough and you want a reward. It's difficult to go through Whole Foods and be like, I've had a hard day, I deserve it, and just get a big raw carrot and nibble on.
Peter Sagal
It, you know, to hell with my diet. I'm having a persimmon.
Tom Papa
Yeah, you need to stuff a whole can of Pringles down your throat in order to feel good in these dark times.
Peter Sagal
I personally do not need Whole Foods to. To start selling junk food. I need them to start selling cleaning products that actually work. Right. I mean, you've tried this. Their dish soap, it's just an empty bottle that says scrub harder.
Alzo Slade
A friend of mine got some organic roach killer from Whole Foods. And I was like, yeah, that ain't gonna do the trick.
Peter Sagal
But I bet the roaches liked it. Looked down at the roaches, they're like, this stuff's good.
Karen Chee
Did it say organic? For who?
Peter Sagal
For the ro. Okay, your last quote is a mixed review of a new $20,000 piece of home technology.
Alzo Slade
It fetched me a bottle of water, which took much longer than if I'd simply grabbed the water myself.
Peter Sagal
That was a reporter for Fast Company magazine talking about the fact that finally you can buy a human sized and human shaped what for help around the house. A robot helper. A robot helper. It's here. We have dreamed of this for a century, and now it is here. Meet the $20,000 humanoid chore robot who walks around your house doing all the things that you do, but slower and worse. So this reporter who tried out Neo in his home, found it could fetch a bottle of water five times slower than he could do it and in just under five minutes. This is amazing. It loaded two glasses and a fork into the dishwasher.
Tom Papa
So they're saying it's not good. I really want it to be good.
Peter Sagal
You do? You want one of these?
Tom Papa
I've been buying everything that comes out. I got that Roomba, that little vacuum thing. I was like, oh, this is great. I'll never have to vacuum again. And then it went over some cat crap and smeared it all across the rest of the place. All right. No, Al, please tell me this thing works.
Negeen Farsad
I saw maybe six or eight months ago an on stage test of it so they could share it with an audience of 2000. Okay? And me and 2000 other people were sweating watching this robot try and water a plant. And I swear to God, the spokesperson said he's still working out handles because he had a hard time getting his hand around the watering pot.
Tom Papa
I know, but with all technology, I mean, you know, we can all pretend we want it to load the dishwasher, but the majority of people out there want to know, can I have sex with. Happened to the copy machine? Yeah, it happened with faxes. Can you, Peter?
Negeen Farsad
Dad, this is a very NPR question.
Peter Sagal
No, I'm just. I'm just making a note never to buy any used technology from Utah.
Roy Choi
Don't.
Tom Papa
Not me. I'm saying not you.
Peter Sagal
People, people. Now, you might be wondering, okay, we've been dreaming of this for years, like the Jetsons and everything. How can they finally have a robot that can do anything you ask on its own? And the answer says the company is that actually it can't, but it will eventually learn. And until then, your neo, the one you paid for in your house, will be remotely controlled by a human back at company headquarters. No using a VR headset to see what it sees. And control.
Tom Papa
I'm gonna take back what I said about having sex with it.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, that's a shame, because my understanding is one of those operators is getting pretty excited about getting to your house. Also, how did Tammy do in our quiz?
Alzo Slade
She did amazing. Three out of three.
Peter Sagal
Congratulations, Tammy. Yeah. Good luck in the big move. Take care. Yay. Thanks. Take care. Bye.
Tom Papa
By.
Peter Sagal
Right now, panel, it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news negeen. As part of the investigation into the massive jewel heist at the Louvre a little while ago, we have learned the password to the museum's security camera system. You get one guess what that password was.
Negeen Farsad
Was it 1, 2, 3, 4, 5?
Peter Sagal
No, it was not. All right. You don't know. I'm going to actually ask the other panelists. Do you have any idea, Karen?
Karen Chee
No. Was it password?
Peter Sagal
It wasn't. The password for the security system at the Louvre was the Louvre. Exactly right. Password for the security cameras at the Louvre was Louvre. They must have thought. Well, no one will ever be able to spell Louvre? That's such a weird word. They of course, now that it has been exposed, they quickly rectified the situation. The password is now Louvre1.
Tom Papa
They caught them, right? They caught the.
Peter Sagal
They have caught a bunch of them.
Tom Papa
Yes, a bunch. How many were there?
Peter Sagal
There were. There was a. There was a whole crew and I'm not quite sure how many there were who did the robbery, but they have, they have arrested a number of suspects.
Negeen Farsad
Was it George Clooney? Brad Pitt? Matt Damon?
Peter Sagal
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Alzo Slade
From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is. Wait, Wait, don't tell Me. The NPR News quiz. I'm Alzo Slade. We're playing this week with Tom Papa Negeen Farsad and Karen Chee. And here again is your host at the Siegenstrom hall in Costa Mesa, California, Peter Sagle.
Peter Sagal
Thank you. Also, thank you, everybody. Thank you so much. I'm excited, too, because right now it is time for the. Wait, Wait, don't tell me. Bluff the listener game. Call 1, triple 8. Wait, wait. To play our games on the air. Hi, you're on. Wait, Wait, don't tell me. Hi, this is Ian Wood calling in from Grand Rapids, Michigan. I love Grand Rapids. What do you do there? I am a student at Calvin University. What are you studying? Environmental health and conservation. Oh, that's very cool. What year are you in? I'm a freshman. You're a freshman. Okay. Well, hopefully there will still be some left for you to conserve by the time you graduate. Please keep the faith. Well, Ian, welcome to the show. You're gonna play our game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction. Alzo, what is Ian's topic?
Alzo Slade
Jobs of the future.
Peter Sagal
They say that AI is gonna take all of our jobs. Well, we're always going to need artists and craftspeople to feed to the robots. Our panelists are going to tell you about another new job for real human beings. Pick the one who's telling the truth, and you'll win the weight waiter of your choice in your voicemail. Are you ready to play?
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Peter Sagal
All right, first up, let's hear from Karen Chi.
Karen Chee
As AI quickly encroaches on our daily lives and leaves people jobless, there is one career that is surprisingly very secure, the amusement park carny. In fact, you'll probably start seeing them everywhere. AI Is replacing waiters, cashiers, and salespeople. But marketing experts know that there's just something magnetic about a carny. That sketchy guy who definitely doesn't want to be working at the carnival, but also was maybe born there. So they predict all kinds of businesses will now have designated carnies who will attract consumers and make them feel great about their experience. Experiences. These designated carnies will add to consumer interactions by smoking in front of children, handing out merchandise with the deadest of eyes, and loudly swearing while families are within earshot. They'll also mark where their employee entrances are by standing in front of them and vigorously making out another advantage, an element of danger. With a carny standing there even using the self checkout at places like Target will have that I might die on this tilt a whirl feeling that keeps.
Peter Sagal
You young carnies soon to be everywhere to provide that creepy, exhilarating feeling while you deal with the machines, your next job of the future comes from Tom.
Tom Papa
Papa as people worry about AI replacing us, David Risher, the CEO of Lyft, assured us that our jobs won't be going away, they'll just be changing. As an example, when Lyft starts using robo taxis to drive people around, that doesn't mean a job will be eliminated. He floated the idea of a car tender a human who isn't driving but sits in the car along with you because as we all know, the main reason to book a rideshare is for the sharing part. Risher added that the cartender could help with your luggage, make you drinks and answer questions as the local guy. Because who hasn't been in a ride share with a creepy driver and thought I wish this guy was talking to me more and also trying to give me some of his alcohol? AI, there's nothing to worry about.
Peter Sagal
In the future, your rideshare driver will become your rideshare cartender. Your last profession preview comes from Negeen Farsan.
Negeen Farsad
When you call a 1-800-number, your main goal as a human being is to say agent.
Peter Sagal
Agent.
Negeen Farsad
At increasing volume level and with an expanding sense of existential dread. When the agent finally comes on the phone, you yell at them. At one point you stop and say I'm so sorry to get upset, I realize you're just a messenger. And then you continue yelling. This yelling is a time honored capitalist tradition. But what happens when AI takes over the job of the agent? Where does the yelling go? The boutique staffing agency Techforce is prepared for this very moment. They believe a new spate of human jobs will open up in the field of getting yelled at, or GYA for short. These venting specialists, as they're called, don't fix your problem, but they do let you yammer on about it while making empty threats about leaving a bad review and or saying stuff like I swear to God, I'm changing my cell phone carrier. The agency is also hoping to expand operations to offer an in person combat experience where you can just punch a representative of your Internet service provider right in the gut.
Peter Sagal
All right, let's say you lose your job to AI. If so, you might be able to get one of these jobs of the future. Was it from Karen Chee, the universal carny bringing that aura to every kind of consumer interaction. From Tom Papa, the car tender, since humans will no longer be needed to drive the cars. Or from Negin Farsad, the venting specialist, the person whose job it is will be to get yelled at by people frustrated by the AI. Which of these is a real potential job of the future? Well, everyone loves self driving cars, so I think I'm gonna go with Tom Pappas. You're gonna go with Tom's choice of the cartender. All right, well, we actually spoke to somebody who has not yet lost his job to an AI to bring you the real story. I don't know how you would stock.
Roy Choi
A car for a full service. Bartender seems like a nightmare.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, that was Griff Richards, a bartender at do or Dive in Bed Stuy Brooklyn, talking about the the potential of having cartenders in your ride shares sometime soon. Congratulations, Ian. You got it right. You've earned a point for Tom. You've won our prize, the voice of your choice on your voicemail. Thank you so much for playing. Thanks for having me on. Take care. Bye bye. And now the game we call not my job. Roy Choi trained as a chef but found himself burned out working in gourmet restaurants in New York. So he came back to his hometown of Los Angeles and eventually opened a food truck selling Korean tacos, which first. Yes, you wish you thought of that. And those food trucks first revolutionized the food truck scene, and then the LA food scene, and then the food scene everywhere. He now runs a bunch of trucks and brick and mortar restaurants here in Southern California. He co hosted the chef show on Netflix and has written a best selling memoir and a cookbook. Roy Choi, welcome to Wait, Wait, don't tell me.
Tom Papa
Thank you.
Peter Sagal
So first things first, you drove from la, where you live, to be with us today. Now, whenever you drive somewhere, do people just expect you to show up driving a food truck?
Roy Choi
They don't expect me to show up. But on the freeway when we're driving them, they expect us to throw them food.
Peter Sagal
Do they really?
Roy Choi
They expect the food to be ready?
Peter Sagal
Yeah. I was about to make a joke.
Roy Choi
Because it's almost like reptilian or. Yeah, the instinctual thing.
Peter Sagal
They see it, they start to salivate like Pavlov's dogs. I was about to make a joke about like them wanting you to throw them a taco at 80 miles an hour, but then I remembered this is LA. They want you to throw them a taco at five miles an hour. If they're lucky. Yes, right, exactly. So you grew up in la?
Roy Choi
Yes.
Peter Sagal
La. Boy. We understand that you were, like, been involved in the food industry from an early age. Is it true your mom kind of got you involved in the business?
Roy Choi
I ate a lot of food that my mom cooked. I grew up in a house where she was cooking constantly for many people, but there were only three of us in there.
Peter Sagal
Really?
Roy Choi
Yeah, she was cooking for like hundreds of people at all times. So I ended up eating most of it. And early on, my mom used to make the kimchi in the house. Very much like you would see mothers right now making pozole or menudo, putting it in big igloos, and then putting it out on the corner and selling them in styrofoam cups. Yeah, it was the same thing we were doing, but in kimchi jars. But we had a big 1976 Thunderbird and a 19, like mid late 70s station wagon. So there was a lot of room to store a lot of kimchi. These trunks were huge. And so she would stuff all of them and we would go around, we would hit up people, like at a stoplight. Really, it was like a drive by, but with kimchi. Like, we would just roll up on the stop and I was the one. I was in shotgun, and I would roll down my window and then we would just talk to the person at the stoplight and say, you want to buy some kimchi? And then we would really?
Audience Member / Caller
How?
Roy Choi
Yes, she was ready to roll at any time. She had.
Peter Sagal
How old were you when you were doing this?
Roy Choi
Started when I was like five.
Peter Sagal
Okay.
Roy Choi
Because you could sit in front seats back then.
Peter Sagal
Oh, sure. Yeah, I know. That's why most of us were killed. But yes, we're the only ones that left. Yes, exactly. So a big moment in your career is you got fired from this big restaurant and then you, as history now celebrates, opened a food truck. What was the inspiration for it? You know what I really want in my moment? Getting fired.
Roy Choi
But I think that I, you know, because I've had time now to reflect and look back, and I truly believe it was something spiritual really that happened. I do, you know, wasn't like you.
Peter Sagal
Were walking down the street with some bulgogi. Some guy was walking down the street with a taco. You hit each other, fell to the ground, you got my bulgogi. Not like that.
Roy Choi
That would have been like a Mentos commercial. That would have been really nice if it happened that way. But unfortunately, I had to go through all of these trials and tribulations, and from that came the soul of this kogi Taco. But I think that I had to fail. I had to have this amnesia and have no other opportunities out there.
Peter Sagal
Now you have how many food trucks out there you're operating, and how many restaurants can you even keep count?
Roy Choi
Not that many.
Audience Member / Caller
Not that many.
Roy Choi
We only have four trucks.
Peter Sagal
We're.
Roy Choi
We're a company that looks bigger than we are, right? Yeah. And. And we have. I have three restaurants.
Peter Sagal
I got two more things for before we play our game.
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Peter Sagal
First of all, we live in an age where, like, all of a sudden, everybody's interested in the lives of chefs. Right. TV shows. You actually were consultant on a movie called Chef that your friend John.
Roy Choi
That's really weird.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, I know.
Roy Choi
Thank you.
Peter Sagal
Which basically, for people who haven't seen it, the characters played by the director and writer Jon Favreau, basically recapitulates your life sort of. Sort of, Sort of, Kind of. What do you think of any of these shows that you like? I mean, do you watch the Bear, for example, and say, oh, my God, that's exactly what it is. No, no, no, no.
Negeen Farsad
Yeah.
Karen Chee
Like, do you watch Ratatouille and go, that's exactly what it is.
Peter Sagal
I'm more Ratatouille. Yeah. Really? As far as best of it, just between you and me, as far as I know, that's the only movie she's ever seen. Go with it. Go with it.
Roy Choi
Ratatouille's still the gold standard.
Peter Sagal
It really is. It really is it. Telling me of all. All the movies, tv, about chefs and restaurants, that's the one that's close to the chef.
Roy Choi
It's still the one that no one has topped.
Karen Chee
That's true. Wait, your store.
Peter Sagal
I just realized that's why you have the big hat. I got one more thing.
Roy Choi
Guys are too good.
Peter Sagal
This is a point of personal privilege. I found out just recently that you are responsible for my very favorite recipe ever, which happens to be in the New York Times cooking app. And that is instant ramen with American cheese.
Roy Choi
Yes.
Peter Sagal
So now that I have you, I'm going to ask you, what exactly is American cheese? Do you know?
Roy Choi
It says it's from the land of processed.
Peter Sagal
That's true.
Roy Choi
From the region of processed. Yeah. It's a terrible far in America, actually. It sounds like a stoner food, and it. And it really does feel like something you would make in the depths, but it's actually what parents feed their kids if you're Korean.
Peter Sagal
Right? Yeah.
Roy Choi
Any Korean people?
Karen Chee
Yeah, it's true.
Peter Sagal
You grew up eating that. Your parents gave me that.
Karen Chee
I feel like My parents were like, this is unhealthy. But that would be like a treat would be ramen with some food.
Roy Choi
Yeah, it's our treat because our whole life is healthy. Yeah, yeah. It's the inverse of like growing up in America. Like everything we eat are shoots and roots and vegetables and pickles and fermented things and dried fish and all these things. And so the ramyeon with the cheese was like our lucky charms. Lucky charms.
Peter Sagal
Well, I'm just saying this, I'm saying this to people here. Hopefully we'll make the broadcast. You gotta try this.
Roy Choi
Yes.
Peter Sagal
It's amazing. Well, Roy Choi, it is a pleasure to talk to you. We have invited you here to play a game we're calling Food Trucks.
Alzo Slade
Meet these new trucks.
Peter Sagal
So you invented the modern food truck as we have discussed. So we're going to ask you three questions about other kinds of trucks. Get two out of three right. You'll win our prize for one of our listeners, the voice of anyone from our show they might choose. Also, who is Roy Choi playing for?
Alzo Slade
Ryan Santos of Hanford, California.
Peter Sagal
All right, ready? Here's your first question. Now, the most expensive truck ever made was the Dartz Prombron Black diamond. That is a $7 million custom built armored SUV made for the most discerning billionaire. One of the early additions of this incredibly high end luxury truck featured what luxury feature was it? A, A built in parachute in case you ever happened to drive off a cliff. B, seats upholstered with leather made from the foreskins of whales. Or C, an entertainment system that included a small stage for live performances.
Roy Choi
It's gotta be. It's gotta be. It's gotta be B.
Peter Sagal
You're gonna choose B as your final answer. That's right, it's B. Whale foreskin leather. Although they, they changed that after the outcry. Next question, next question. Everybody loves fire trucks. We all love fire trucks, sometimes to excess. Like in which of, like which of these people? A baseball hall of famer Rube Waddell, who used to run off the field during games to follow a fire truck if it happened to go by the stadium. B, President Luis Lacal of Uruguay, who insisted on using a fire truck as his presidential limo. Or C, Mark Zuckerberg, who likes to drive a custom made full size working replica of the play School fire truck he had as a.
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B.
Peter Sagal
You're gonna go with B, the president of Uruguay? No, it was actually the baseball player. This is a guy from the early days of baseball, early to the 20th century. He was a great player. But everybody knew that if a fire truck went by the stadium, he would just disappear and run after. All right. This is not a problem. You got one right with one to go. If you get this, you'll win. Here we go. Every now and then, as we all know, a truck on our highways might spill its cargo and cause some pretty serious problems, as in which of these cases was it, A, a truck in Kentucky that spilled its entire load of pancake syrup after colliding with the Buttermilk pike overpass? B, a truck in Idaho that spilled 20 million bees on the highway, causing the driver to run for his life, or C, a truck in Oregon that spilled 7,000 pounds of live eels?
Roy Choi
Oh, my God. We gotta go see.
Peter Sagal
You're going to go see. You're right. But they're all true. Those all happen.
Roy Choi
The game is fixed.
Peter Sagal
The game is fixed. Sadly, in your favor, though. And by the way, the eels in that truck and Arga, the one you like, not just eels, but slime eels also. How did Chef Roy do in our quiz?
Alzo Slade
He cooked up a win.
Peter Sagal
He did. There you go. You've won. On behalf of our listener, Chef Roy Choi's newest book is the Choy of Cooking. Roy Choi, thank you so much for joining us on Wait Wait, don't tell me. Give it up for Chef Roy. In just a minute, we go into the brine and our Listener Limerick challenge. Call 1- Triple-8-WAIT wait to join us on the air. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait Wait, don't tell me from NPR. Support for NPR and the following message come from GoodRx. Cold and flu symptoms got you down. Find relief with Goodrx, you can save an average of $53 on flu treatments, plus save on cold medications, decongestants and more. Easily compare prescription prices and instantly find discounts of up to 80%. GoodRx is not insurance, but works with or without it and could be your copay price. Save on cold and flu prescriptions@goodrx.com wait. This message comes from Superhuman, the AI productivity suite that gives you superpowers everywhere you work with Grammarly mail and coda coming together. You get proactive help across your workflow so you can outsmart the chaos experience AI that proactively helps you go from to do to done faster. Unleash your superhuman potential today. Learn more@superhuman.com podcast. That's superhuman.com podcast.
Alzo Slade
From NPR and WBEZ Chicago. This is Wait, Wait, don't tell Me the NPR News quiz. I'm Alzo Slade we're playing this one week with Negeen Farsad, Karen Chee, and Tom Papa. And here again is your host at Segerstrom hall in Costa Mesa, California, Peter Sagal.
Peter Sagal
Thank you, Alzo. Thank you, everybody. In just a minute. In just a minute, America's number one ant, only remaining source of natural limericks, our listener limerick challenge. If you'd like to play, give us a call at 1-88-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-89-24. Right now, panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Tom. NFL legend Tom Brady just welcomed a new pet into the family after losing his beloved dog Lua a little while ago. But he has just revealed that the new dog is what?
Tom Papa
A clone of his old dog?
Peter Sagal
That's exactly right. Yes. He's done the dog cloning thing. Brady, widely regarded as professional football's greatest of all time, but pretty iffy in all other areas of life, cloned his beloved pit bull mix dog Lua after she died in 2023. Brady, of course, it turns out, is an investor in the company that did it, Colossal Biosciences, and he made the announcement alongside his new girlfriend, Gazelle 2.
Tom Papa
Does it have the personality of your old dog? How close is it to your old?
Peter Sagal
Well, famously, the stories we hear about these is people think they're going to get their old dog renewed.
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Peter Sagal
A new copy. But it never quite works out. Because they're different animals.
Tom Papa
Yeah.
Peter Sagal
Even though they have the same DNA, they could be very different.
Tom Papa
So it looks like your old dog, but at night it just growls in the corner at you, presumably.
Alzo Slade
Yes.
Tom Papa
Wondering of how it could eat you.
Peter Sagal
Yes, exactly.
Negeen Farsad
You're like, just saw alien Earth. I feel like.
Tom Papa
I haven't. But I have a dog that I would like to take some parts out of.
Peter Sagal
Right. If you had the chance. If I had the chance to futz with the recipe.
Tom Papa
Yeah. Like maybe change some of its bad habits. For example, using the litter box as a buffet. Right.
Peter Sagal
Yeah.
Tom Papa
Wouldn't you take that out if you could? I would totally take that out.
Peter Sagal
I wonder if there's a gene for that. Karen. This week, a court in Canada ruled in favor of a woman who withheld part of an ex roommate's security deposit as compensation. For what?
Karen Chee
For playing music too loud? No, for eating all of her food.
Peter Sagal
Very close. In fact, I'll give it to you for eating her candy.
Negeen Farsad
Whoa.
Peter Sagal
Yes. She withheld $4.60, and. And the judge allowed this when he took her to court to get the Money back. The judge said that might be petty, but it's not improper, which I will be using so much as an excuse in the future that I will have it printed on a T shirt to save time. But on the other hand, knowing you can be held legally liable for stolen candy just sent a chill through every parent whose kid went trick or treating last week.
Tom Papa
How long are you allowed to keep Halloween candy in your kitchen after Halloween?
Peter Sagal
I think ultimately my rule is forever until you finish it.
Tom Papa
So you're cool with getting to Easter and still having some Kit Kats around?
Peter Sagal
God, yes.
Negeen Farsad
Yeah. What did you. Is that too. You're too good for that or. What's happening?
Tom Papa
Yeah.
Karen Chee
Who do you think you are?
Tom Papa
Oh, I just, you know, I just kind of live a more conservative life than you guys.
Peter Sagal
I'm just imagining when your daughters were young, you're holding them back with one hand and holding up the candy going, no, I'm sorry, dear, it's expired.
Negeen Farsad
I know it's not broccoli.
Tom Papa
No, I know you know what I mean. But it's depressing. It's like when you leave the Christmas lights up too long and it's spring and it's raining and there's like Christmas lights. It's like you gotta move on the.
Negeen Farsad
Same candy off season as it is in season.
Tom Papa
No, it's not. It's Halloween candy. Very different from regular candy. We all know you break it out and you're like, hey, I got you some candy. You're gonna know. No, no. This has little kids hands.
Peter Sagal
Coming up. It's lightning. Fill in the blank. But first, it's the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air, call or leave a message at 1-88-WAIT, that's 1-888-924-89-24. You can catch us most weeks back at the Studebaker Theater in Chicago or on the road in Phoenix, Arizona on December 4th. Tickets and info@nprpresents.org hi, you're on. Wait, wait, don't tell me.
Karen Chee
Hi, Peter.
Peter Sagal
This is Danielle from Santa Barbara, California. Santa Barbara, California. Bit of a ways up the coast. What do you do there?
Negeen Farsad
I work at an interactive science museum that is geared towards STEAM education.
Peter Sagal
STEAM education. What's your favorite exhibit?
Negeen Farsad
We have an exhibit where kids can build race cars and then race each.
Peter Sagal
Other or they're adults.
Negeen Farsad
And it's always fun to see the competitiveness that comes out in that.
Peter Sagal
I'm looking at Karen Chee here on stage and it's Everything she can do to keep from leaping up and running to where you are now to try it.
Karen Chee
I'm going to be there tomorrow.
Peter Sagal
We would welcome you. Well, welcome to the show, Danielle. Also, Slade is going to read you three news related limericks with the last word or phrase missing from each. If you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly in two of the limericks, you will be a winner. You ready to play?
Karen Chee
I'm ready.
Peter Sagal
Here is your first limerick.
Alzo Slade
At Jimmy John's, our chefs are fickle. Our sandwich won't crumble, it trickles. The subs that we sell have a crunchy wet shell. We're replacing the bread with a.
Negeen Farsad
Pickle.
Peter Sagal
A pickle?
Roy Choi
Yes.
Peter Sagal
Have you ever sat down to lunch and said to yourself, wow, this sandwich is good, but what if it were wetter? I got great news. Jimmy John's is now offering the Picklewich, a sandwich that replaces the bread with a giant hollowed out dill pickle holding all your meat and cheese. Best thing, the pickle witch is part of Jimmy John's new as if dad packed your school lunch menu.
Karen Chee
I'm so sad dad got divorced.
Negeen Farsad
Do they have like a special holder? I'm just curious about the logistics.
Peter Sagal
I think they wrap it in the traditional paper and they hand it to you. That would be my guess, yeah.
Karen Chee
Negeen, what were you picturing?
Negeen Farsad
I thought maybe there'd be some sort of fun like water resistant holder of some kind.
Tom Papa
Oh, like a roll?
Negeen Farsad
Yeah, something like that. Like something bread, like.
Peter Sagal
Yeah, exactly. Danielle.
Tom Papa
Yeah?
Peter Sagal
Here is your next limerick.
Alzo Slade
Food mashups. Some people a boreo, but I say yas queen, give me morio. Creamed corn is the boss. As is cranberry sauce. A Thanksgiving meal in an oreo.
Peter Sagal
Oreo, yes. The oreo cookie. A new limited edition Thanksgiving oreos. They're great. They cover the entire meal from the turkey oreo that comes with a stuffing oreo and a creamed corn oreo all the way to the apple pie oreo and the pumpkin pie oreo.
Negeen Farsad
I feel like the audience is about to do an insurrection with this information, which is great.
Peter Sagal
You can get them all together. The whole meal is a gift set. Online reviews have been mixed with one customer calling it the Thanksgiving meal no one wants.
Tom Papa
And you, you can buy this at Whole Foods.
Peter Sagal
You can now.
Alzo Slade
There you go.
Peter Sagal
You gotta go around back and knock on the door though. Here is your last Limerick.
Alzo Slade
Past your 20s design should show upper care. Get nice dishes to store your old supper there you need. Nothing drastic, just no mismatched Plastic. So get some nice organized Tupperware.
Peter Sagal
Tupperware. Yeah, we did. Food, Food and now food storage. House Beautiful provided a list of things you simply cannot have in your home once you're 30. Sorry. And high on this list. Mismatched Tupperware. You're a grown up now. Your Tupperware carpet better match the drapes. The problem is nobody, nobody has perfectly matched Tupperware containers and lids. That's because you never throw out any of it. Yeah, the lid for this one is missing, but you have to believe it'll come back. You can't give up on little Liddy.
Negeen Farsad
Early in my relationship, my now husband threw out a bunch of lids inexplicably.
Peter Sagal
What?
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Negeen Farsad
He thought they didn't go with something, but they totally went with five somethings.
Roy Choi
Wow.
Negeen Farsad
And I still think it's been 10 years and I still think about those licks.
Peter Sagal
Really, that he just threw out and.
Tom Papa
You still married him.
Negeen Farsad
It was a tough call, but I did it.
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Peter Sagal
She was hoping that for some sort of wedding present, he'd give her the lids back. Also, how did Danielle do in our quiz?
Alzo Slade
3 out of 3amazingly well done, Danielle.
Negeen Farsad
Thank you so much.
Peter Sagal
Thank you so much for playing. Take care.
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Peter Sagal
Now it's time for our final game. Lightning. Fill in the blank. Each of our players will have 60 seconds in which to answer as many fill in the blank questions as they can. Each correct answer is now worth two points. Alzo, can you give us the scores?
Alzo Slade
Absolutely. Tom has four points, Karen has two, and Nagin is struggling with one.
Karen Chee
Why did you add struggling?
Peter Sagal
Wait a second.
Negeen Farsad
I need editorializing from you.
Peter Sagal
All right, well, Nagin, since you only have one point, that means you're in third, so you're gonna go first. Here we go. The clock will start when they begin your first question. Fill in the blank. On Thursday, a federal judge ordered the White House to fully fund Blank benefits this month.
Negeen Farsad
Snap.
Peter Sagal
Right. On Tuesday, former vice president Blank passed away at the age of 84.
Negeen Farsad
Dick Cheney.
Peter Sagal
Right. On Monday, two people were arrested in connection with an explosion at Blank's medical school.
Audience Member / Caller
Harvard.
Peter Sagal
Yes. Kia Motors complained after discovering a dealership in Finland had been offering customers of their electric cars. Blank.
Negeen Farsad
Whitefish.
Peter Sagal
No, They've been offering the electric car drivers an air freshener that smells like gasoline. According to new data, 66 poultry flocks have been infected with Blank in the past month.
Negeen Farsad
Bird flu.
Peter Sagal
Right. On Thursday, Blank released the annual list of her favorite things.
Negeen Farsad
Oprah.
Peter Sagal
Right. A report this week said that while unemployment is up, more people than ever have been finding jobs as Blank white fishermen. Stick to the theme. No more people than ever are employed as Timothee Chalamet lookalikes. The group of men may remember that a couple of months ago, there was this very high profile Timothee Chalamet lookalike contest in New York. And a lot of those participants have seen this huge boom in employment opportunities. Since then. They've been on Saturday Night Live, they've been in commercials. They were invited to the Golden Globes. Who knew looking like a handsome movie star could be so advantageous? Alzo, how did Negeen do in our quiz?
Alzo Slade
She did a little something. She got five right for 10 more points. A total of 11. And she's in the lead.
Tom Papa
Struggling no more.
Peter Sagal
All right, Karen Chee, you're up next. Please fill in the blank. On Tuesday, Abigail Spanberger was elected the first female governor of Blank Virginia. Right. This week, former House speaker Blank announced her retirement from Congress.
Karen Chee
Nancy Pelosi.
Peter Sagal
Right. According to a new report, long term use of Blank supplements as a sleep aid can lead to serious health risks.
Audience Member / Caller
Um.
Karen Chee
Melatonin.
Peter Sagal
Melatonin, yes. After he was arrested for robbing a bank, a man in Ohio asked police if he could. Blank.
Karen Chee
Use the bathroom?
Alzo Slade
No.
Peter Sagal
If he could keep the money, please. On Thursday, King Charles officially stripped Blank of all of his royal titles.
Karen Chee
Oh, Andrew.
Peter Sagal
Yes. Prince. Well, I was gonna say Prince Andrew, but no, just Andrew. On Monday, the LA Dodgers held parade to celebrate their second consecutive Blank win World Series.
Roy Choi
Yes.
Peter Sagal
Despite her raising the issue multiple times, a woman in Florida says that a garage door repair company keeps blanking.
Karen Chee
Oh, turning into an alligator.
Peter Sagal
No, the company keeps using her address as the location of their business. Okay. It happens sometimes. Type in an ad, you get calls for, like the plumber. But this company put up a website with her phone number, her address, and a picture of her house as their headquarters. And if that wasn't bad enough, she was also named employee of the month. Also, how did Karen do in our quiz?
Alzo Slade
She did pretty good as well. Five. Right. For 10 more points. That gives her a total of 12. And now she's in the lead.
Peter Sagal
And how many then does Tom meet to win?
Alzo Slade
4 to tie, 5 to win, and a bonus of a robot.
Peter Sagal
All right, Tom, this is for the game. Fill in the blank. On Wednesday, the Supreme Court heard arguments on the legality of Trump's global blanks tariffs. Right. On Thursday, Tesla shareholders approved a $1 trillion pay package for Blank.
Roy Choi
Elon.
Peter Sagal
Right. On Thursday, a massive blank made landfall in Vietnam.
Tom Papa
Bird.
Peter Sagal
A typhoon. This week, disgraced hip hop mogul Blank was transferred to a federal prison.
Tom Papa
Did he?
Peter Sagal
Right. This week, publicly available video of a city council meeting in Glasgow will be edited after a representative accidentally blanked.
Tom Papa
Pooped.
Peter Sagal
I'm actually going to give it to you. Left his camera on while going to the bathroom. On Wednesday, unionized baristas threatened to strike if their new contract was not approved. Starbucks. Right. On Monday, People magazine named wicked star Jonathan Bailey the blankest man alive.
Tom Papa
Sexiest.
Peter Sagal
Yes. After he was accidentally paid the salaries of 34 of his co workers, a factory worker in Russia announced he would Blank retire. Yes, pretty much. Because he's going to keep it all. After a payroll error meant he was paid 15,000 times more than he was usually paid, the factory worker to did the right thing. He told his employers. See you later, nerds. And fled to another city. The case is now headed to Russia's Supreme Court, who are expected to rule in the company's favor. Unless someone has a bunch of money he could use to bribe them with. Alzo, did Tom do well enough to win?
Alzo Slade
Oo wee. Did he? He got seven right for 14 more points. Total of 18. And he is the champion.
Peter Sagal
There you go. In just a minute, we're going to ask our panelists to predict now that they're doing junk food, what'll be the next big change over at Whole Foods. But first, let me tell you that. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Is a production of NPR and WBEZ Chicago in association with Urgent Haircut Productions. Doug Berman, benevolent overlord. Philip Gautica writes our limericks. Our public address announcer is Paul Friedman. Our tour manager is Shana Donnell. BJ Lederman composed our theme. Our program is produced by Jennifer Mills, Miles Grumboss and Lillian King. Special thanks to Mohamed El Sheikhy and Monica Hickey. This week, Peter Guin is our humanoid chore robot. Emma Choi is our visual host. Technical direction is from Lorna White. Our CFO is Colin Miller. Our production manager is Robert Newhouse. Our senior producer is Ian Chillag. And the executive producer of Wait, Wait, don't tell me is Mr. Michael Danforth. Now, panel, what will be the next big change at Whole Foods? Negeen Farsad.
Negeen Farsad
They're gonna start selling guns.
Peter Sagal
Karen Chee.
Karen Chee
They'Re gonna start selling organic edibles so that you want to buy all the snacks in the back room.
Peter Sagal
And Tom Papa.
Tom Papa
They're teaming up with Oreos and launching a new line of deodorants.
Alzo Slade
And if any of that happens, we'll ask you about it on Wait, Wait, don't tell me.
Peter Sagal
Thank you so much, Alzo. Thanks also to Negeen Farsad, Tom Pompa and Karen Chee. Thanks to the staff and crew here at the magnificent Sager Strum center for the Arts. Special thanks to John cone and everybody over at La Esten. Thanks to our fabulous audience here who came out to see us. We love to see you, too. Thanks to all of you for listening, wherever you are. I'm Peter Sagal. We'll see you next week back in Chicago.
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This episode of NPR’s Wait Wait… Don’t Tell Me! was recorded at the Segerstrom Center for the Arts in Costa Mesa, California. Host Peter Sagal is joined by panelists Karen Chee, Tom Papa, and Negin Farsad. The highlight of the episode is a lively “Not My Job” interview with celebrity chef Roy Choi, the mastermind behind the Korean taco food truck phenomenon. As always, the show mixes news quizzes, sharp banter, and plenty of laughs with audience interactions and quirky headlines from the week.
Election Night in New York
Whole Foods Sells Junk Food
Humanoid Chore Robot
Tammy goes 3-for-3 and wins the quiz.
Panelists create imaginary jobs responding to AI and automation:
Background & Upbringing
On Food Trucks & Restaurant Life
Food Philosophies & Viral Ramen Recipe
Game Segment: Trucks Roy answers trivia about unusual trucks, including luxury SUVs upholstered with whale foreskin, baseball players obsessed with fire trucks, and real-world cargo accidents (liv eels, pancake syrup, millions of bees)—“The game is fixed. Sadly, in your favor, though.” (31:02-31:03)
Fun, food-themed limericks about:
Danielle aces the quiz 3 out of 3.
Rapid-fire news trivia among panelists, with Tom Papa taking the championship.
Notable moments:
If you missed the episode, you’ll want to catch Roy Choi reminiscing about his family’s kimchi “drive-bys,” the panel’s takes on AI-induced job changes, and the show’s signature blend of current events and comic invention. Plus, if you haven’t tried ramen with cheese—what are you waiting for?