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David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Or is it a Google event?
Andrew Marino
Okay, look at us. We are the Google event. Now we are going to actually tell you about what these phones have on it. Because that event I like that idea was pretty brutal in terms of the event.
David Imel
It was a combination of a late night show, a morning talk show, and like the super Smash Brothers, everyone is here. Intro, cutscene, and your infomercial.
Ellis Roven
Yeah, the qvc.
Marques Brownlee
So let's just talk about the phones first and then we can talk about what the happened. So. Yo, what is up, people of the Internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques.
Andrew Marino
I'm Andrew.
David Imel
And I'm David.
Marques Brownlee
We're back. We're all finally back in the same room.
Andrew Marino
No, we're not.
David Imel
Yeah, Adam's not here.
Andrew Marino
Adam's not here.
Marques Brownlee
Adam's not here.
Andrew Marino
But we do have Mariah.
David Imel
We do have Mariah.
Marques Brownlee
We're almost all back. And Mariah is here as well. Yeah, this we've got a lot to talk about today. The pixel event was as of the day of recording today.
David Imel
Yes.
Marques Brownlee
It's hard to even call it a pixel event, but it happened. And we got to talk about that. We got to talk about some other stuff. But first, I just want to show you guys this. This is the thing that I was going to get for the two weeks That I was not here.
David Imel
Can you bite it?
Marques Brownlee
I could. It's kind of heavy, though. I don't want to like break my teeth on it. It's a. It's a metal. It's a gold medal for ultimate Frisbee in the World Games, which was held in Chengdu, China. This metal means a lot to me, obviously, but it's also panda shaped. You can see the ears on it. I had a couple notes from China. One of them is, I've never seen a city lean more into a single animal than I have Chundu and the giant panda. Panda statues, panda artwork, panda souvenirs, panda metals, panda everything. It was very cool. We got to see a giant panda. They mostly sleep, so it wasn't super exciting, but we got to see them. And yeah, a lot more electric cars in China. I also noticed, and this is one of the things I knew I was going to see. I'll probably end up going back to China at some point to check this stuff out, but I'll. A lot of BYD cars, a lot of.
David Imel
Oh, yeah.
Marques Brownlee
A lot of.
David Imel
Bring your dollars, build your dreams.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, they all say build your dreams on the back. And you kind of have to know. We called. Lots of. There's no Uber. It was called dd. Lots of dds are BYD cars. So that was fun.
David Imel
I do want to say, Marques, that we're actually very proud of you.
Marques Brownlee
Well, thank you. Yeah, I.
Andrew Marino
It's hard.
Marques Brownlee
It was. It was a lot of. We were in this athlete's village the entire time, I guess similar to an Olympic village, essentially, but they kind of turned this international hotel complex into like a place where all the ath, all the sports from all the countries all stay. Wow. And there's this huge dining hall where you kind of just show up every day and there's everybody wearing all their, you know, warm ups for whatever sport they play. And you could meet people who play different sports or try to guess what sport they play. And I learned a lot about how tug of war works and what corfball is and fistball and other sports that I didn't know about before.
David Imel
Watching these World Games is not the Olympics.
Marques Brownlee
World Games is essentially the Olympics for sports that are not yet in or not currently in the Olympics.
Andrew Marino
Olympics. The Ocho.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, it's like, just like the Olympics. It's every four years, it's in a new location. Last cycle four years ago was in Birmingham, Alabama. This time it was in Chengdu, China. And they have this. Yeah, this village.
Andrew Marino
Crazy. Two different.
Ellis Roven
Well, yeah, I have Heard Birmingham is the Chengdu of the United States. Okay.
Marques Brownlee
So crazy. That's not a crazy take. But yeah, we. On our. On our quest for this medal, we played five games in five days. We had three pool play games. We played Japan, then we played Germany, then we played China, the home country. It was very exciting. Thousands of people there. Very loud crowd. Super cool. Then we had semifinals against France and finals against Canada. Wow.
Andrew Marino
Did two games that went to. We call it Universe Point. I'm saying I haven't played this in forever, but next point win, pretty much the Germany one was crazy because you guys are on defense, right. Which is much harder to. To score. And then the Canada one, you pulled it through. You were on that point also.
Marques Brownlee
Universe point hold and Universe point break. Yeah, we kind of saw everything. Yeah. The Germany. Well, I wasn't on the. The D line for the break, but we got a break on Universe against Germany, and we got a clean hold on Universe against Canada.
Andrew Marino
And you were on the final point.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah. That's pretty sick.
David Imel
There is a really cool sort of inset topography thing on the middle. Yeah. Do you know what this is supposed to be?
Marques Brownlee
I don't know if it's a specific topography.
David Imel
It is.
Marques Brownlee
Looks. Looks like topography, but I don't know if that's like the country or the. Or the town we were in. Chengdu does have a lot of mountains, but I don't know if that. That's specifically the area we were in. It was very fun, and I will probably be back.
David Imel
Congratulations.
Marques Brownlee
Thank you.
David Imel
It will be in the Olympics eventually. And when you don't know who to call.
Marques Brownlee
The ioc, the International Olympic Committee, watches all these events, so hopefully they liked what they saw.
David Imel
Do you know why? So in for the audio listeners, inside of the metal opens up, and inside the metal there's a mini. Oh, wait, it's got a magnet on it.
Marques Brownlee
No.
Andrew Marino
And it does.
Marques Brownlee
Oh, right.
David Imel
And it's got, like, a little thing that pops out of it that you get.
Marques Brownlee
Tiny medallion.
David Imel
Oh, you can open it.
Andrew Marino
You can, like, have a little thing to put.
David Imel
Oh, yeah.
Marques Brownlee
You can like.
Andrew Marino
Like put it on or something.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, yeah.
David Imel
Put on my keys.
Andrew Marino
Oh, your labubu could have its own.
David Imel
Metal too, if you wanted.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, I should say. There's two animals that they lean into. It was kind of the pairing of a giant panda and the monkey. And so the metal is shaped like a panda with the ears. You open it up, and inside there's a tiny metal magnetized to it with the. With the monkey.
David Imel
Do you know why they did that.
Marques Brownlee
Just because you can. All right. But yeah. Okay, we should talk about this Google event.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Or is it a Google event?
Andrew Marino
Okay, look at us. We are the Google event. Now we are going to actually tell you about what these phones have on it.
Marques Brownlee
Because that event I like that idea.
Andrew Marino
Was pretty brutal in terms of the event.
David Imel
It was a combination of a late night show, a morning talk show, and like the Super Smash brothers, everyone is here. Intro, cutscene and an infomercial.
Ellis Roven
Yeah, the qvc.
Marques Brownlee
So let's just talk about the phones first and then we can talk about what the happened. So there's a bunch of new phones. There's the Pixel 10, the Pixel 10 Pro, Pixel 10 Pro Max and sorry, cheese.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Pixel 10 Pro XL and the Pixel 10 Pro Fold.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Lots of really great names, easy names. They're all the same prices as last year. And frankly, there's not that much that's actually different about them. There's a couple interesting things. Like the foldable now is IP68 rated QI2. QI2 in all of these phones. Pixel Snap, I actually think that's my favorite feature.
David Imel
That's probably the biggest thing.
Marques Brownlee
There's magnets in all these phones. And so now they can attach and they're strong too. They're like actually firm. And so they have these accessories. Like they're called Pixel Snap. There's a charger, there's a little dock you can throw it on, but you can also throw this on MagSafe accessories and it flips, firmly sits on them.
Andrew Marino
The clip you used in the Impressions video is like nerve, nerve wracking.
Marques Brownlee
But it was.
Andrew Marino
He like flips it with his hand and it just stays on the like ring thing the whole time.
David Imel
I asked Google, like, why did you brand this Pixel Snap? Because now is if Oppo adopts Cheetu, is it going to be Oppo clip they're going to do and there's going to be. And Google said that it's just the Qi 2 standard, but they optimize the magnets and everything, which you can, you can tell because they have, they have a ring adapter. Like one of those ring things and you put it on the back of the phone and no matter which way you turn it, it stays sturdy. Like, it seems like they have done a lot of optimization to make sure that the magnets are very strong and.
Marques Brownlee
Like the friction of the, of the little felt.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
In between them. Like all of that. It seemed very well thought out and it worked in my, you know, hour or two of hands on Very well.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
So I think that might be my favorite feature.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
But yeah, you know, Tensor five is in there. It's a bit more powerful. We haven't benchmarked it yet, but I don't think it's going to magically be Snapdragon 8 elite level. It's not the focus, it's still a Pixel. And all of its clever software features and AI and conversational photo editing and all of that, that's what makes the Pixel the Pixel. So they still look the same, they still have a lot of the same camera hardware. They have similar battery sizes, slightly bigger batteries last year than last year, but in general slightly brighter displays too. But yeah, they're pretty similar to last year.
David Imel
Yeah, yeah. I mean Tensor, at least it's TSMC this time. So it's supposed to be quite a bit more efficient. Yeah, they said the CPU is 34% faster. There's a 60% faster TPU, so that means it's got way more Tensor cores. It's going to be running a lot of the models natively on device. And there's a new Gemini Nano model that runs 2.6 times faster and 2x as efficiently in some use cases. They said. Yeah, which I don't know, they. This year they're clearly leaning into a lot of the AI features that can happen natively on your phone that can sort of fetch information from other apps within the Google ecosystem. Yeah, yeah.
Marques Brownlee
So if you were hoping for like 100 watt charging or a brand new 100 megapixel camera or like the most incredible display of all time or some other crazy raw horsepower stuff, it's not.
David Imel
They didn't call it the best display ever on the camp on the live stream though, which was interesting. I was like, according to who?
Marques Brownlee
Some choice words. Yeah, it was according to who?
David Imel
According to who? They said for the second year in a row is what they said too.
Marques Brownlee
Oh right. They did so say that.
Andrew Marino
They did put the third camera on the base which I'm very, I'm excited for. Triple cameras, Lemongrass baller color. Everyone was wrong about that as per usual. Do you want to kind of really quickly just go over why then if you have triple cameras on the 10, why you might go to the Pro and Pro XL. Cuz it's a little harder to see by one, if you watch the event because they didn't say anything about it, or two, if you're just looking hardware wise, they all. They look exactly the same.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, I mean this is going to be similar because I've Talked about this in the past. The Pixel 10 is going to be the best deal. 799, you get the most for your money there. For 200 extra dollars to get the Pixel 10 Pro, what do you get? And I don't know how much better, but you'll get slightly better triple cameras. Right. It's still 5x optical zoom, but they'll let you super res zoom into 100x on the Pro.
Andrew Marino
It was pretty impressive in some of the cases.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, we've seen some, some decent shots. I've also seen some pretty bad looking shots, but I think there are some cases where you could be impressed by 100x.
David Imel
Does AI upscaling to be clear, yes. And it sometimes makes on anything beyond 30x.
Marques Brownlee
It does super res zoom or pro res zoom, whatever.
David Imel
Prores zoom on the pros. Yeah. Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
It is a slightly higher resolution display. It is a slightly brighter display at.
David Imel
Its peak brightness, 3300its versus 3000 which logarithmically is the same.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, you won't notice that.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
And it is in fact a slightly smaller 100 milliamp hour smaller battery probably to fit those larger cameras.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
So it's a 4870 milliamp hour versus 4970 milliamp hour on the base. Aside from that, it's double. It's more RAM. 16 gigs of RAM versus 12 and you can get more max storage. It starts at 256 instead of 128.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
And yeah, they all have QI2, blah blah blah. That's basically what you get for your XL.
Andrew Marino
Does get 2.2, which is the 25 watt.
Marques Brownlee
Yes.
David Imel
Well, the pros are both 2.2.
Andrew Marino
Sorry. The XL just. The XL gets 2.2 only just the XL.
Marques Brownlee
And the pros also have better selfie cameras. 48 megapixel selfie cameras. So yeah, like you said, The XL is 1199 and gets even faster charging and obviously the larger battery and larger screen and that's kind of it. So I think most people will get the most value for their money out of the regular Pixel 10, which is great. Then you have the Fold 1799, that's got your IP68, that's got your Pixel Snap Qi 2, that's got tensor and 16 gigs of RAM and more storage and slightly thinner bezels. So basically the, the hinge being thinner on the left means it's like a more centered, normal looking closed screen. And then when it opens it's still. There's still a crease but it looks fine. Open 8 inch screen hole punch cut out. Yeah. Normal looking phone for that. I think it's the same cameras as last year. Maybe it's a new primary camera and then the other two are the same.
David Imel
Yeah, it's a new 48 megapixel. Yeah. Primary camera. There are some small things that are different between the regular one and the pros. The pros are the only ones that get the 8k 30fps with video boost and the night side video where you don't get that on the regular one, which is sort of an interesting thing to leave out.
Marques Brownlee
Artificial.
David Imel
Yeah, there's a Pro controls camera mode on the Pros, whereas you don't get the Pro controls mode on the regular one. If you're really hardcore about that kind of stuff, you get a better selfie camera on the pros. So you get the 42 megapixel dual PD selfie camera, whereas the regular one has 10.5 megapixels. There is zoned UFS storage on the higher storage models of the Pros which I had to look up what this was. Basically they segment out the storage for storing different types of data so that it is like faster to retrieve. Because when you're trying to access memory on like a one terabyte hard drive, it can take forever to like go through the hard drive and index everything and then bring it out to you. So they split it up into like different NAND segments.
Marques Brownlee
I guess this is only on the 512 and 1 TB models.
David Imel
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, technically 45 watt charging on the XL, but I don't know whether or not that's actually going to charge faster. Famously on the Galaxy S20 like Ultra, I think it was. It technically charged at 45 watts, but in practice it was like a one minute faster charge.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah. The charging number that you see is often basically the peak number that it can achieve, which you only achieve that briefly at the very beginning of the charging curve at a few percent battery and then it immediately drops down as it manages thermals and fills up the battery or whatever. So you might only see 45 watts for two seconds.
David Imel
Right.
Marques Brownlee
So we don't know. We'll test that as well. The review is in the works, as you can probably imagine.
David Imel
Yeah. And then LTPO and then LDPO. Right. Versus so you get 60 to 120 on the regular one, 1 to 120 on the pro.
Marques Brownlee
So there you go. You don't have to watch the event to learn all that about These new phones. The event though was. How do I even explain this? It was hosted by Jimmy Fallon. It was on the Google channel. It had about 20 celebrity guests, probably more in various capacities like Lando Norris was one. Giannis Antetokounmpo was one. Some photographer. Steph Curry. Curry that I just. The list goes on.
Ellis Roven
Jeremy Lynn.
Marques Brownlee
Jeremy Lynn, briefly. Yeah, the Jonas Brothers. If you asked Google why they did it like this, I think their explanation would be we wanted to reach the normies, people like you, the tech people already know about these phones. They watched the Hands on Impressions video an hour before the event happened. But for the normal people who will buy a phone based on what Jimmy Fallon says, this was for them. And to that I would say, I don't think that worked. I, I don't think that's gone.
Andrew Marino
I would say name a person, you know, that's not in our scene that's like, are you ready to watch the Google event today?
David Imel
Like, yeah.
Andrew Marino
Do you know that's like a non techie person that's watching a tech event.
David Imel
There's a possibility that on Jimmy Fallon's regular late night show he plays a clip from the Google event that he's hosting.
Andrew Marino
Like some short form content they pull out of it and they're like, oh, that's Jimmy Kimmel.
David Imel
Jimmy Fallon.
Andrew Marino
Jimmy Fallon, yeah, whatever.
Marques Brownlee
Lots of Jimmies, the S2 Jimmy's.
David Imel
Yeah. I do think it's smart of them to bring in a bunch of new audiences like this though.
Andrew Marino
I would love to see the number on what new audience it is and how much of the audience is just us who watch it all the time and are like, did you guys say anything about the products?
David Imel
But like think about if they got all of these influencers and sports players and photographers and people to like post on their own social media accounts, then at least they're sort of like the people don't need to watch the event. Right. As long as they can clip things and like put it in the contract for all of the individual influencers to post about it.
Andrew Marino
I still don't know if that is converting like they're hoping to. How much money do you think they spent on just celebrity cameos?
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, that, that was an expensive event.
David Imel
Yeah, for sure. We were joking that they could have spent all that money on 15 minutes of Taylor Swift and it probably would have had better conversion. People would watch.
Andrew Marino
If she announced her new album on the Pixel event in instead of her boyfriend's podcast, the market share would be through the roof.
David Imel
There was a really funny Onion meme that was like, what's his name? Her boyfriend, Travis Kelce. Travis Kelce receives invoice for Taylor Swift's podcast appearance.
Marques Brownlee
This was a phone announcement event masquerading as an infomercial, masquerading as a organic celebrities hanging out and being cool and showing you their phone stuff type of thing. It was unique, I'll give them that. It was ambitious because it was live and they did, to their credit, pull off some pretty impressive live tech demo. The phone call thing with the Spanish speaking influencer who was talking on the phone. Having seen that demo in person fail many times I was watching that intently, like this could go horribly. This could go really wrong. And it actually went pretty well while.
Ellis Roven
I was checking the mail. Did they do the live translation?
Andrew Marino
Are you serious?
Ellis Roven
Right when I left the room.
David Imel
It went pretty well. There was one time where she said something thing and then the other end it came out. I am a crazy person or something like that.
Marques Brownlee
It did say something weird. Yeah.
David Imel
I don't think that's what she meant to say. But every other time it was actually.
Marques Brownlee
Landed, it hit a high note. At the end it landed and they said like an announcement, it'll go on sale in Mexico. Oh, wow. Congrats. And it's like in the AI voice, it sounded kind of like Jimmy. So.
David Imel
Yeah, yeah. It is impressive that they're able to generate an AI voice of you within two seconds of your voice.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah. With the intonations and the timing and like speeding up and slowing down. That is very impressive tech demo.
David Imel
It's not exactly, you know, what your voice would sound like, but it's close enough.
Mariah Zank
And I feel like that could also be based on the many, many hours of Google Assistant audio you are providing.
Andrew Marino
They do claim, or I guess they claim the phone calls is not recorded, but that doesn't mean they don't have.
David Imel
They said it takes only 2 sec. 2 minutes or 2 seconds of your voice to clone it is what they say it is.
Andrew Marino
That is a an easy thing for Google to say when they have thousands of hours of your voice.
Marques Brownlee
Well, it works on both ends so the person you're calling doesn't have to have a picture.
Andrew Marino
That is very true. Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
So it's just doing it live.
Andrew Marino
Actually, to be fair, most people you are calling don't have a picture. I don't have a pixel.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, right.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
If I had to give my kudos to anything in this event, I thought the set was fantastic. The set was really well made. The thing about it though is seeing Some of our like tech journalist friends posting from there. The way they had to watch the event was like the set was pushed further and all the cameras were in front of Jimmy and the people.
David Imel
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Marino
So like they didn't even get to feel like they were. The event was to them.
David Imel
It felt like it was to the cameras.
Andrew Marino
It just felt like this was not for journalists at all.
Marques Brownlee
I've watched, every time I watch an event like this, I kind of in my head try to picture what I think the brief was and like how I think it's being produced. And I could see a lot of reading off teleprompters and like, camera to the side, like look at your prompts over here, then read the next prompt over here and then a little bit of riffing in between. Like Jimmy Fallon would go off script once in a while. Oh, are you allowed to say Apple, like a random line here or there where it's. It's just kind of like Tensor. Yeah, I could feel some of that. And I honestly think Google probably thinks it went pretty well.
David Imel
Oh, definitely.
Marques Brownlee
You know, just 100% based on the fact that nothing derailed the tech demos worked.
David Imel
Based on how complex getting that many famous people in one room and trying to get them to all say the right lines and nothing disasteredly happening.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, nothing like jiffable with like a missed handshake or anything crazy. Like last one like, or like, or.
David Imel
Like when the Gemini demo failed twice on the Pixel and only worked on the Galaxy S25.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, nothing like that happens. So they. Maybe they're happy about it.
David Imel
They're probably stoked. There are a couple of really quick fold updates that I want to mention because this year the fold is almost exactly the same as last year. And so a lot of people are going to like wonder if they should ever upgrade to this thing. And we talked about IP68, which is, which is a big deal, but they also added, well, they added Pixel Snap to that, which is interesting. And there's all these Pixel Snap accessories like we talked about. And there's a stand and they specifically both in the video, in the keynote and also when they came and visited and showed us them demoed the Pixel fold being open and being magnetized to the stand to try to like showcase how strong the magnets were. It did slouch very slightly to the left. I do remember seeing. Okay, but that's at least quite interesting in its own right, you know. Yeah.
Andrew Marino
And how like weighted the stand is because.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
What David's explaining is when it's open. It's only magnetized to the right side. So now it is like hanging precariously off the side. But the stand is still standing, which obviously takes a lot of precise. You don't want to stand to be.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
Really heavy. But it's supposed to be able to hold it like that.
David Imel
Right.
Andrew Marino
It was pretty impressive. I didn't see it slouching, but I wouldn't be surprised.
David Imel
Yeah. Yeah. They also updated the made you look thing for kids where they have new animations so the kids can like, you know, laugh at the.
Andrew Marino
I want to actually try that because.
David Imel
Yeah, you should try it.
Andrew Marino
It seems like a great idea. But the amount of times I've had to, like, try and get Lane or my niece of like, yelling and screaming the, like, words that they love and clapping like, I can't imagine a silly little fish on the screen is going to be better than.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
20 parents, like, basically begging the kid to just look.
Marques Brownlee
I would love to try it because it's. Seeing as it's Google and they had it last year on their phone, they had an opportunity to kill this feature or double down on it. And they doubled down on it. They added more faces.
Andrew Marino
I think it is a perfect thing to play at like a T Mobile store. And a parent season is like, oh, my kid will finally look at the camera every time. Like, that is a great. That's gonna work perfectly. Let's pay, buy it and then see it. Maybe. I don't know. I wanna try it. If I get a full doll.
David Imel
Yeah. And then a couple more features that are actually taking advantage of the opening screen, which is nice. There's the new camera app, which, when you take a photo, it shows the photo you just took on the left. And it has this dynamic stacking feature where when you take more photos, it kind of like moves the photo in and it stacks them on top of each other so you can see the whole photo roll, which is nice.
Marques Brownlee
Instant shot, I think is what they're calling instant shot.
David Imel
And then they now say that. That you can drag and drop images and links from, like, one app to another by holding and dropping. It didn't work in our demo, but they were confused why it didn't work. So hopefully that book is fixed by the time it launches. That's actually very, very helpful.
Andrew Marino
Yeah. I also really liked that. Just like how if you have dual apps open and you can slide the.
David Imel
Middle slider and like 80% of the screen is.
Andrew Marino
Yeah, yeah. And you can swap between them really quick and you can flip them A lot of like, really quick, intuitive, multifunctional, like Windows.
David Imel
The reason I've been waiting for the Trifold for so long is because I've never really seen the use of the hot dog style foldable, you know, whereas the. I. I see a ton of Galaxy Z flips on the subway because I think that that is a lot more. It's easier for people to, like, see and understand. And also it's a square aspect ratio when you do that. So.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
You know. Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah. The software features are really what make the.
David Imel
For sure every.
Marques Brownlee
The pixel.
David Imel
Totally.
Marques Brownlee
And there's some interesting stuff in there that might be tops of the people's list again. So we will get to that. But of course, before we get there, trivia. It's been so long since I've heard that music.
Ellis Roven
All right, guys, another event, which means another edition of.
Marques Brownlee
Were you paying attention?
David Imel
I wish.
Marques Brownlee
What?
Ellis Roven
We'll just have to pretend it was there.
David Imel
Is it head to head?
Ellis Roven
No, it's. It's supposed to be. Were you paying attention? But that my button broke and we're not going to fix it right now.
David Imel
One of us could do it.
Ellis Roven
Yeah. You want to give it a shot?
David Imel
Were you paying attention?
Ellis Roven
Good enough. All right, guys, sorry I got distracted, but actually, no, I need. I need to complain while we're talking about Google stuff, because Google AI overview ruined my life yesterday and the day before.
Marques Brownlee
That's awesome.
Ellis Roven
Because I had a flight from hell where I was.
Marques Brownlee
Did you?
David Imel
In heaven? Eventually.
Ellis Roven
Hell, Michigan.
David Imel
Yeah.
Ellis Roven
How'd you know where? Long story short, I had a layover through Chicago Ord o' Hare, and there was weather and o' Hare was shut down. And I was trying to figure out how long o' Hare was going to be shut down for, so to know if I needed to rebook my flight like that moment. And so naturally, I go to google.com and I Google, is O' Hare shut down? Or is there a ground stoppage at o'?
David Imel
Hare?
Ellis Roven
Or all the necessary things. And of course, when you Google that, the first thing that comes up is a Google AI Overview that will always say, yes, it's shut down. And then you click the link and it's from some article from 2017. Like, it's completely irrelevant and stupid information, and you can't disable that. Anyway, that's my rant. Let's get back to.
David Imel
Were you.
Ellis Roven
Oh, close enough.
David Imel
All right.
Ellis Roven
After using the A word, what did Google VP Adrian Lofton refer to iPhone users as?
David Imel
Oh, yeah, I got this.
Andrew Marino
I think I remember.
Ellis Roven
Were you Paying attention, man.
David Imel
Yeah, I know.
Marques Brownlee
One of the rare off script moments.
David Imel
Apple, can we say that surprisingly when they showed a low light camera sample, they did show it was like it was directly from the iPhone 16 Pro. Yeah, I was surprised about that.
Andrew Marino
Oh really?
David Imel
Yeah, because usually they just say competitors leading device.
Andrew Marino
There was someone recording the Jonas Brothers at that party at the end with an iPhone in the background.
David Imel
Epic.
Andrew Marino
Sure. They loved it.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, well, we'll think about that and the answers will be at the end like usual.
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So we'll be right back.
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Marques Brownlee
All right, welcome back. Let's talk Pixel software. The thing that makes the Pixel, the Pixel. There's a couple interesting things that were announced. Some of them are exclusive to the Pixel 10. Some of them are just going to be available for everyone, but they're getting announced with this phone, so that's great too. The one that's pixel 10 only that seems interesting that I think might not forever be. Pixel 10 only is called Magic Q. It's very Google. Google knows everything about you already, right? It knows your calendar events, it knows all the emails that you get. It knows your flight reservations, it knows your your hotel reservations. It knows your lunch reservations at the restaurant because you get a confirmation email for everything. So if you get a text message with someone asking about one of those reservations, you'll get a little magic cue card thing that pops up at the bottom. That is just a prompt to answer the question for you without you having to dig back in and find the email.
Andrew Marino
Kind of like the auto reply is there and you can press it and it can.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, it's an auto reply that's pulling from some other service in your Google account somewhere. It seems to work pretty well. There's a couple instances where it makes perfect sense. Like someone asking about a flight info. Hey, when does that flight land? Oh, okay. Well, I know the answer already because I know the last email you got about that flight says it would land at this time. Boom. Here's your answer.
David Imel
Something was surprising to me about it, is that in like text messages, if someone asks, where are we eating? Or what's your flight info? It grabs it and it just puts it in like a regular string. So it's just like, we're going to Cracker Barrel. It just says Cracker Barrel. Yeah, but I, I feel like dress it up. I'm surprised that they don't do that. Plus a Google Maps link or something.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, actually, that would make sense.
David Imel
You might usually just say the name of the place, but usually when I send someone a location, I send them a Google Maps.
Andrew Marino
If I'm asking you, like, where is the reservation we're going to tonight? I would almost definitely want to know where it is. Especially because I don't even remember.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The feature demo we tried just was like typing the name of the restaurant.
Andrew Marino
Really? That's all it did?
David Imel
Yes.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
Ellis Roven
Oh, that's two points of failure. Like, like it could already grab the wrong email. Like, like I said, if, if it's grabbing. If I Google, is Chicago Airport shut down and it's pulling things from six years ago?
David Imel
Yes.
Ellis Roven
You know, who's to say it's not going to pull a reservation from six years ago? And then.
Marques Brownlee
Right.
Ellis Roven
Who's to say we'll pull the wrong Google Maps link too? And then all of a sudden, theoretically, plans are roots.
David Imel
Theoretically, though you've seen, you know the restaurant you're going to or like, or like you sort of know your flight number kind of.
Andrew Marino
There are.
David Imel
You just don't remember that. Like specific details. So you can like verify whether or not it's real. Right.
Andrew Marino
I think like, in terms of a restaurant, it would most likely be like, well, if you're asking for tonight, you're in New York, it's probably going to Be the one in New York or the one that's today. You know, like I'm asking for it today.
Ellis Roven
I asked Gemini yesterday about a today thing.
Andrew Marino
AI overview is a lot weirder because it's using the whole interview Internet, where this is all using your stuff, like in your calendar, email. It's very. It's so much more niche of what it is. I'd be more confused of what if I have two reservations? What if the amount of times you have probably three different flights booked at some point. And as long as it's not like, if you're just like, what flighter? When's your flight this week? You might have four different answers for that.
Marques Brownlee
Right.
Andrew Marino
Those things get confusing.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
I wondering, will it give you options? Because like you said, you kind of know what it is or what that person might be.
Marques Brownlee
There is a screenshot in the event of two different options.
David Imel
Oh, really?
Marques Brownlee
One of them had two options and you can pick one. So I'm gonna have to test this a little bit. I mean, we tested the couple setup versions they had for us and obviously they worked because they were set up, but it seems like one of those things that Google can pull off because they know a lot about you and they can just surface that information and it's convenient. It's the type of thing that Apple would like to do with Siri, but they haven't been able to figure out how to do it yet, so.
David Imel
And also Apple's so gung ho about privacy and it's been their whole thing that they're. They kind of set themselves up for failure here because Google's always just been like, we use your data to create magical experiences, whereas Apple's like, we don't touch that at all. We don't look at it. We don't know what it is. It's just a random string of numbers to us.
Marques Brownlee
And it's also like Apple. It's not an Apple email that you're getting, it's a Google email that you're pulling into your mail app for Apple. But Apple doesn't see that information.
David Imel
Well, unless you're on icloud or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Marques Brownlee
But you know, it's like, it's not like quite one to one with like what Google can offer because Google has a calendar that you're putting events into. Google has Gmail. Google has all these other things.
David Imel
Yeah, this is definitely Google at its best. Like showcasing that. OpenAI wishes it could be this Apple. It wishes it could be this anthropic, wishes it could be this But Google has always been the best positioned to be able to be this agentic, as Rick Osterlo will say and try to explain to Jimmy Fallon.
Andrew Marino
I will say the like calling an airline and it automatically populating like all your airline. The information in the phone app is so nice in the phone. So you're not like on speakerphone, digging in your email, typing United and Google Gmail search sucks so bad.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, it's one of those extremely specific things that I think I'm going to love that feature. I often. And this is so specific because I carry two phones. Like, I'll go in and I'll call with one phone and I'll pull up my calendar on the other phone and I'm like, man, this would suck if I had to do both these things on my phone. But this is like perfectly designed where it's like, okay, I can pull up the exact information I need and it's going to show it to me when I need to see it.
David Imel
Yeah, great. It's great because every time I have to pull up the information to talk to the agent about it, I have to either put it on speakerphone or risk not hearing them speak to me back. So, yeah, it would be very nice to have it. I'm wondering if the. If it does any of this Magic Q stuff in any other apps, because the main two apps that they showed were the messages and the phone app. Yeah. But I would love to see this in Gmail and other apps like that.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, it'd be cool. Yeah, we'll try it out.
David Imel
Yeah, I think that's probably their biggest one.
Marques Brownlee
So that's Magic Cue coming to Pixel Tems at first and maybe some other stuff later.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
The other thing that I thought was really interesting was conversational editing, so you can use a text box to edit a photo instead of going into the actual tools and hitting edit and going, all right, saturation. Oh, let me crop. Oh, let me turn brightness up. Let me do all these other things or even some of the magic editor stuff like erase a person in the background. You now have this text box that you can type into or talk to and you can go, hey, make this photo look better and brighten it up and delete that plastic bag in his hand. And it will semantically parse what you said, understand what you said, and then take action on the photo using the tools built in. And it will do what you said. I tried a bunch of stuff. It did what I asked. Yeah, I was very impressed with it.
David Imel
It was very good.
Marques Brownlee
You can get Kind of carried away and just be like, add a hot air balloon in the photo.
David Imel
It'll just do it.
Marques Brownlee
I think that the only thing it doesn't want to do is adjust faces. So kind of the same as Magic Editor. But the fact that it understands what I'm saying and does it is really convenient and good.
David Imel
And it can do a lot of local editing, too. Like the demo we had, she had. She said, turn my dress red.
Marques Brownlee
And it just did it.
David Imel
And it was very, very local to her dress. Yeah. Which was very surprising.
Andrew Marino
And this is, like, great for not people like us, but for normal people who don't know how to use Magic Eraser or don't know how to use all the different. Who don't even know that there's an edit button really in there. Or they can click that and just the, like, chat box comes up and they can just say, like, could you zoom in on this a little bit? And, like, get that dog out of the background. Like, anyone can do that. And it seems pretty good.
David Imel
One of the people showing us our demo said pretty much every photo they take that they care about at all, they just say, make this look better to every photo.
Marques Brownlee
Just see what happens. Just. Yeah, it tends to just, like, kind of brighten things up and, like, crop and put your subject in the middle and just generally make it look like a better photo. It's pretty good.
David Imel
Yeah. On top of that, if you want to do that before, you have to run it through an AI model, they now have the camera Coach feature.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
And this is basically Gemini. It's effectively like Gemini Live, basically talking to you about what's going through your viewfinder.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
So if you're taking a photo of a friend or something like that, and you're off center if you're to the right or if you haven't straightened the horizon line, things like that, it will talk to you in real time and be like, turn a little bit to your left. Get a little closer to the person. Do this. And kind of teaches you how to take, I guess, a better photo.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah. It was cool to walk through it once.
Andrew Marino
I hate this one.
Marques Brownlee
I don't think I would ever use it again.
David Imel
No, you wouldn't, because you know what you're doing.
Marques Brownlee
But even if I didn't know what I was doing, like, I just feel like I'm taking a picture the way I want to take the picture. And if I wanted a coach to help me take a professional picture, by that point, I just have someone else take it for me.
Andrew Marino
Yeah. I Think the people who don't care about how well framed a picture is, don't care about getting coached to frame it well. And just like them, the memory of the photo rather than the.
Marques Brownlee
This is the.
David Imel
This is the feature for boomers. For sure it is. And.
Andrew Marino
But like, it's slow. It takes a while to do it. And like, I'm just imagining you're at, let's say like Disney and you're now all these parents, their kids are meeting the characters and each parent is now doing camera coach. This line is now a 10 hour away because each person's taking 10 minutes to like, slowly listen to it and adjust and tell the kid to smile and like turn it. I don't know. This. This feels like a flop.
Marques Brownlee
The pitch in the event was Alex Cooper saying, like, you no longer have to teach your like, boyfriend or spouse or whatever how to take the perfect picture of you. Now the camera coach will teach them. Maybe that's cool. I don't.
Mariah Zank
Is this something you have to actively turn on or is it on by default?
David Imel
Yeah, you have to.
Marques Brownlee
There's a little button in the corner.
Mariah Zank
Because, like, I feel like most people wouldn't go out of their way to actively turn it on.
David Imel
Ye.
Mariah Zank
The pixel now already it'll tell me you need to raise the phone higher. And I didn't ask it to tell me.
David Imel
Oh, it does that automatically.
Mariah Zank
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
And it's like, it does some automatic suggestions, like if it's. If the lens is blurry too, it'll tell you to clean it off. That's great stuff like that.
Andrew Marino
And it has the level or you can at least have the leveling thing on, which I think is great. Some people probably just don't know what it is.
David Imel
It has a nice vibration motor that. That vibrates when it hits the level. Yeah, it's great. And if you still are not good at taking pictures, it has an improved best take mode, which was a feature from many pixels ago which basically samples many different moments over the course of before you took the photo and after you took the photo and then combines different photos into one with all the best aspects of each photo.
Andrew Marino
Yeah. I think they were saying, like, it will either choose the photo that is the best if there is one that just everything works out, or if it happens to be like, this is the closest one, but we had to pull a face looking from one photo. Like they'll. It will do that.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
And let you choose. And still I think I'll still have the carousel of all the photos.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
Taken.
David Imel
And you can it like highlights what it thinks the best one is, but it lets you choose between all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Also, Add me got better. It'll do pets now.
David Imel
Doom pets. Doom pets. That's good. Also, apparently it works with more people.
Marques Brownlee
Actually, you know what's funny? I think Adme is probably best with pets. It takes so long. Remember how many group shots we've tried to do with the dog and the dog is never looking at the camera.
Ellis Roven
Well, hold on.
Marques Brownlee
Everyone else is looking at the camera, but the dog's never looking at the camera.
Andrew Marino
But that's different though. Add me is where you take the photo and then you swap, right?
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, but I'm saying, like, I'm gonna take this photo with everyone else and then I'm just gonna get the dog. Like, there's no way I can get the dog to look at the camera. So I'm just gonna do me or.
David Imel
You take the photo of the dog and then you.
Marques Brownlee
No, I'll take the photo of everyone else and then the do else take.
Ellis Roven
A photo of you.
Marques Brownlee
I guess I'm thinking like, I have a group shot and I want the dog in the shot.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
So I'm gonna take the photo of everyone else and then I'm gonna have someone, you know, take the picture with me. So we got all the people and then I'm just gonna do the dog.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Because the dog is gonna be distracted in some way. So I can just focus on getting the dog to look.
Andrew Marino
I think they need dog face swap.
Marques Brownlee
I think they might.
Andrew Marino
I Hope they pixel 11.
Marques Brownlee
They're going to have it soon because.
David Imel
Of all these AI features. I do want to note they did not say this in the keynote, but this is the first phone to integrate CTP content credentials into the phone. If you don't know what that is. We made a video on the studio channel about it like two years ago with the Leica M11P. We talked about content credentials.
Marques Brownlee
What's the 5 second TLDR?
David Imel
5 second TLDR is that there is a metadata history of every edit that has been made to the image and you're able to see all the changes that were made. So because all these AI features are being integrated into these photos now, there is a trail that you can follow back unless someone takes a screenshot and then you're screwed. So updated pano mode supports the 5x lens. There's a new feature called take a message. And they were talking about. We all get phone calls sometimes, unfortunately, and when you don't answer them and Then people leave a voicemail. You never, you never read the voicemail. And this is why visual. Sorry, not reset. Listen to the voicemail. This is why visual voicemail even became a thing.
Marques Brownlee
It's great.
David Imel
Yeah. Visual voicemail is amazing where it transcribes the message. Now not only will it transcribe it, but it'll also send it to you in a message. Is that what it was?
Marques Brownlee
Just one more step so I can like treat it like a message and actually get to it instead of being like, I wonder what voicemails I have.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Cause I don't like to check my voicemail.
David Imel
No, absolutely not. Notebook LM is now native on the phone.
Marques Brownlee
Pre installed app.
David Imel
Pre installed app.
Marques Brownlee
That's another little piece of bloatware for you. Yeah, little Notebook lm.
David Imel
Yeah, that. If you don't know what no big LM is, it's. It's that Google AI app where you can basically feed it a bunch of different sources of information, like documents and stuff. And then you can ask it to make you like tests about things. And it will create an AI podcast. There's a very funny YouTube video where the two AI podcasters just say they took. They talk about a document that just says peepee poo poo about a hundred thousand times and they get really philosophical about it. It's very funny. Huh?
Marques Brownlee
And that's interesting you bring that up.
David Imel
Because it's pretty much that way. Yeah, we will link that in the show Notes. Also, Pixel journal app. They didn't even mention this in the keynote. It's true. What they did mention in the keynote is that they're trying to make it as easy as possible to switch over from an iPhone. And that's what this is about. I think the only reason they made this was because I don't actually know anyone who uses the iPhone journal app. But if you do, I think that they're just trying to make it so that it's as seamless as physically possible.
Marques Brownlee
This is kind of the sneaky, low key reason for a lot of things that happen in the smartphone world where it looks like they're copying each other. But a lot of it is just companies trying to give an equivalent experience on their own device to make it easier for people to switch. So if any one of these things is an ecosystem wall, oh, I would switch, but I like the journal app. And there's no journal app on this other phone. Well, okay, we made a journal app and we have some googly stuff in it. So now will you switch? They just try to offer as many equivalent experiences as they can. And this is a pretty blatant example.
David Imel
Of that for sure.
Ellis Roven
Can we go into Ellis's tinfoil hat corner for a sec?
Andrew Marino
Of course we can.
David Imel
Love to. What's up, Joe Rogan?
Ellis Roven
Yeah, what's up? My name is. No, I'm not going to make that.
David Imel
Ellis Rogan. Oh.
Ellis Roven
Oh my God. The first trivia point is on the board. No, see, I always thought that the Apple Journal app was because Apple has access to lots of information about you. Right. They have access to where you go and how many steps you took to get there. And if you use Apple Maps, they have access to what your favorite modes of transportation are. And if you wear an Apple Watch, they have access to a bunch of your biometric data. And a lot of that data is like an anonymized and it's not really shared cross platform. But one of the things that they did not have access to was what was in your brain because of the way imessages was structured. Like they couldn't really like get your thoughts and tell how you're feeling and.
David Imel
Stuff like that because of end and encryption.
Ellis Roven
And so like Apple Journal gave them access to how you're feeling. And I have, you know, I don't use Apple Journal, but I've always suspected that at your health data and your journal data and your location data are sort of blended together to learn more things about you to help make future predictive things that are not deployed yet. Google does look and often sells all of your stuff.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
Ellis Roven
And they also, I don't think read your text messages yet. I don't think they do. So this is just a way that they can get you to forfeit how you're feeling about certain things. I haven't read the Pixel Journal like Terms of Service and their privacy agreement yet, but I'm going to because I suspect this is so that they can.
Marques Brownlee
I think, sell you stuff.
Andrew Marino
It's like your big sister reading your journal. Except a trillion dollar company.
Marques Brownlee
They did actually have a line and I want to go back and make sure I get it right about how they're going to treat this data because they did make a pretty big point to me about the privacy of the data in the Journal app.
David Imel
That's true.
Marques Brownlee
I, you know, with Apple I don't really know what they would do with that information because they don't sell ads. So there's that.
David Imel
But you do have advertising.
Marques Brownlee
If you're Google and you have all.
Ellis Roven
This information, it says no data collected on the on The Play Store. I don't know what that means.
Marques Brownlee
Means but no data collected. It's a crazy line from Google.
David Imel
Yeah, but I don't know if zero people use the Apple Journal app, but they still had to make it, then maybe they just don't care. You know what I mean?
Marques Brownlee
We.
David Imel
We basically finished up with the software on the phone.
Andrew Marino
You didn't make music with Google Recorder.
David Imel
Oh, I forgot about this. I still don't.
Andrew Marino
We were trying to figure this out.
David Imel
They said that a lot of people like to do karaoke with the Google Recorder or at least sing into the Google Recorder. And I think you were talking about the feature parody. Remember how the iPhone did studio quality mics and they made it so that you could like, you could do the studio mic, which set made it in a different setting and it gave it the reverb and stuff like that. Maybe this is that. But effectively what this is, is in the Google Recorder app, which by the way, Google Recorder app is really, really good. It's always been really, really good.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
You can now sing into it and then you can generate music of different genres that will go along with your song.
Andrew Marino
My problem with that is, is that's not karaoke. Unless like you're either singing a song that exists already and Google's generating different music to it, which makes no sense to me, or you're writing lyrics and singing it in a cadence and like a, a tone, but you haven't made music for it yet. And now Google, I, I don't see.
David Imel
Where I have a counterpoint. Pixel Studio app. App. The AI image generation app.
Marques Brownlee
But that was also pointless.
David Imel
That's what I'm saying. Oh, that's my counterpoint. It doesn't need to make sense. Yeah.
Andrew Marino
I still really get this one.
Marques Brownlee
This is. I'm with you. This was the tech demo that I was like, I don't get why anyone would do that. I truly have no idea why anyone would do that. Yeah, but you can, you can auto.
David Imel
Generate music also, I think just a way for Google to show that they have music generation that like, that's. Here's another thing that they can do with their AI. Like they can do video generation with VO3, they can do image generation, they can do text generation, and now they can also do music generation.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
I think that's all it is.
Marques Brownlee
Generational.
Andrew Marino
Yeah. Your priority.
David Imel
It's like a tech demo.
Marques Brownlee
There's also a watch and buds. So Pixel Watch 4 is once again a slight improvement in many dimensions to the pixel watches that came before. It Physically as well. Slightly longer battery life, slightly faster charging, both of which are great for smartwatches. And the display is slightly bigger with slightly smaller bezels, but also it's. It's even more exaggerated in how domed it is. Yeah, that's the thing that struck me when I was playing with it. It just looks like a bubble.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Like, more than ever now.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
What are those, like, compasses that you have on, like, on top of, like, compass. There's the. There's lots of ones that are kind of like, bubbled up on top of like a. Maybe like a Swiss army. Like an army knife, or like one of those like. Like the containers that have, like, matches. Like a survival container. And it has the little. It looks like that where, like, the screen is domed also. And it is.
David Imel
Right.
Andrew Marino
It's very noticeable, the display.
Marques Brownlee
It's not even. Just because I think people understand, like, that the glass is curved. Like, that's been true for a while. I mean, like, the display under the glass is also.
Andrew Marino
Yeah, yeah.
Marques Brownlee
And so when you picture this, like, you can look at it from all these angles, and it just.
Andrew Marino
It.
Marques Brownlee
It's like a bubble screen. It almost looks like the surface tension of, like, you fill a glass all the way up with water, and then, like, it's, like, bubbling over the top. Like, it looks like that.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
It's pretty crazy. So it's a beautiful watch. It is also doing the material three expressive thing. It has a new dock, so the charger is on the side now instead of on the back of the watch. So you pop it on the side, and then obviously the display lights up.
David Imel
And it charges faster, which is actually kind of cool. And I'm interested to see what kind of docks they make for this, either first party or third party.
Marques Brownlee
Because.
David Imel
Because there are a few different things it can do while it's charging. It can either show just the clock, it can show the battery percentage, it can show your next upcoming alarm, it can show the weather. So there's a few different. You can basically use it as a clock that's just on your bedside table.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
What's it called on the iPhone where it's docked? Landscape and standby mode. Standby mode.
David Imel
Standby mode's awesome.
Andrew Marino
This is that for the watch. And, like, if it's, you know, my nightstand, which is directly in front of my face, if I'm laying in the bed, it doesn't need to be that big. A watch is perfect there. And it's a pixel watch, so you probably have to charge it every single Night.
Marques Brownlee
Apparently the battery is 40 hours on the big one.
Andrew Marino
I thought that was very fun.
Marques Brownlee
It's like a true day and a half now. It was like a little over a day before and now 40 hours is like a real day.
Andrew Marino
What good is a day and a half? What good is a half a day?
Marques Brownlee
It just means the brief time. It's really just about fast charging. I really, honestly, I don't actually care how long the battery lasts if it charges really fast. So if I have like a bit of time, as long as it lasts more than a day, and I can like shower and charge it, and I can like have a meal and charge it, or every once a while just pop it on the charger and it'll go right back to 100%. I'm happy.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
So I think that's the more important stat to me.
David Imel
Yeah. It says it does 0 to 50 in 15 minutes, which is great.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, that's really fast.
David Imel
Yeah, it's quite fast.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
They now have the raise to talk to Gemini feature. So unfortunately, there are no Gemini Nano models on the watch. It does use the big models in the cloud, but it recognizes when you bring it up, when you, you tilt it and bring it up to your face. And then it recognizes if you talk to it and ask it a prompt.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
And it'll relay that to your phone and that'll relay that to the cloud and that'll relay that back to your phone. They'll relay that back to you.
Andrew Marino
It is.
David Imel
It. It's faster than it sounds, but it is kind of interesting and kind of like works into Google's whole like, Gemini is everywhere thing. Because now you can talk to Gemini directly on your phone or directly on your watch or directly on your, I don't know, Pixelbook or everywhere it's ever. I don't know how they're gonna identify which Gemini enabled device you're talking to when you're in a home that has like 500.
Andrew Marino
They've never cared about device. I, I hate like saying the word in my living room and just hearing my kitchen all the way in the background being like, I can't answer that right now.
David Imel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marques Brownlee
It's gonna be in the car too, according to that, that video.
David Imel
Oh, yeah, yeah. They have Gemini. Yeah, they now have Gemini and Android and Android Auto or Google Automotive.
Andrew Marino
Gemini for Google Cars.
Marques Brownlee
Google Car.
Andrew Marino
Google Drive.
David Imel
Google Drive. We're gonna call it that from now.
Marques Brownlee
Should have been called that.
David Imel
Yeah. Also something we didn't mention on the phones, that is also on the watch. Which is quite cool, is SOS satellite communications. The phone now has satellite access, but not just for the SOS stuff. So throwback to the iPhone 14.
Marques Brownlee
What phone was that?
David Imel
14? I think it was iPhone 14.
Marques Brownlee
Probably, like, hold it up and have a little UI on the screen.
David Imel
Yeah. Which I've used in national parks and actually does work quite well. And Apple's whole like, if you do not buy this phone, you're going to die campaign. Now Google has a phone that you will not die if you use, which is cool. And there are certain. There are certain services like T Mobile today announced that they have a constellation of Starlinks. That's 650 Starlinks, which, by the way, we talked about this in our. In our Space Race episode about how, like all the satellites that are getting locked into space now there is a dedicated T Mobile constellation just for this, which is.
Andrew Marino
Are we gonna have new zodiac signs?
David Imel
Yeah, the T Mobile zodiac sign. T Mobile, what's your sign? I'm T mobile. I'm Google Fi. That's such a Google Fi thing.
Marques Brownlee
Such an AT&T thing. Wow, that's. We're almost there.
David Imel
Yes. But now the watch can actually communicate with the satellite too. And I would like to see that in action because you have. Obviously you have to bring your sort of wrist up and target it at a satellite that's in low earth orbit.
Marques Brownlee
I was told that there's a UI for it.
David Imel
There is a ui.
Marques Brownlee
I'm sure it's very clever. I haven't actually seen it in action, but, yeah, I'll give that a shot.
David Imel
And then they also added their personal health coach in Fitbit, which again, is a parallel fitness coach. They added an Apple watch that nobody wants.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
So this is Stephen Curry, though. No, I know, it's. What did he say? He.
Marques Brownlee
From Steph. We're like, steph's working with Google now. And his idea was like, I've had coaches my whole life. I think everyone should have a coach. So I decided to help you guys bring it to everyone.
Andrew Marino
Rick, how'd you get Steph? Jimmy, we're worth a trillion dollars.
David Imel
Too many famous people.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
Well, before we go, Mariah, you're on a pixel watch. Watch one. Oh, are you gonna upgrade?
Mariah Zank
No, I've considered my options. I've seen the updates, and I think I'm good. Really, I think I'm good.
Marques Brownlee
But it's so much faster to charge.
Mariah Zank
It's true, it's true. And you know, domed the Google Assistant doesn't really work on my existing Pixel watch. And I don't know if it'll work on any of the other watches, so I'm not. That's true.
David Imel
True.
Mariah Zank
It's true.
Andrew Marino
You are always talking about how much you want Gemini.
Mariah Zank
You know me so much. You know me so well.
Marques Brownlee
Smaller bezels.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
You should try new charger.
David Imel
Mariah is. Is a good consumer.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
She doesn't buy new things just cuz they're.
Andrew Marino
What do you want to try it?
Ellis Roven
Alice, none of these things work. None of these things work. I talk to my friends all day about this. Like. Like my. My friends use cursor. It doesn't work. AI over you. Doesn't work. I constantly get wrong stuff from all the chatbots. I just. None of them work. Why do they keep doing it?
David Imel
Think of the shareholders.
Ellis Roven
Oh, God. The shareholders.
David Imel
Have you thought of the shareholders?
Ellis Roven
You're right.
David Imel
They might have to sell the car.
Andrew Marino
How are they gonna afford Jimmy Fallon next year?
David Imel
Yeah. Pixel Buds 2a.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, I was gonna say there's one more piece of hardware and it's new. Pixel Buds 2a. They have ANC now. They're very small. They are IP54 and they're $130 and they have Gemini in them. So you can, you know.
Ellis Roven
We were so close.
Marques Brownlee
Your favorite thing. It's your favorite thing.
David Imel
He almost got away from it, Ellis.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, so that's. That's basically all the new hardware and software that was announced scattered throughout this event. It was a real challenge finding that stuff. If you watch the event. Yeah, real challenge. Yeah, but it's in there.
Andrew Marino
If only they had it all on a table right in front of them where they could have talked about all of it, but instead did it.
David Imel
Yeah, they tried.
Marques Brownlee
No, they had. They had a part where it was.
David Imel
They had the qvc. Yeah.
Andrew Marino
They just barely talked about any of it.
Marques Brownlee
Sort of breeze through that.
Mariah Zank
Personally offended. They didn't think the Pixel Watch segment was worth Jimmy Fallon's time. But they had him.
Andrew Marino
He just wasn't there.
David Imel
But he was wearing a Pixel Watch for.
Marques Brownlee
Oh, yeah, they were twinning.
Andrew Marino
They were all wearing Pixel watches. Yeah. Was the Pixel Watch section the, like, workout section? Because I have to give credit to the Google guy who had to do a bunch of like, kettlebell swings while he was presenting. Yeah, he did great.
David Imel
I tweeted if everyone's famous. Is anyone famous? Because I didn't recognize almost any of those people. I recognized like a couple.
Marques Brownlee
Some of them were like, very famous. And then the second half were like, wow, they're like finger snap. Famous, you know, or like, oh, I see the.
David Imel
On my, my reels. The guy who scores all those. The guy that says things on the subway.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, that's the Kevin Hartfit, but It's like the YouTuber. They said YouTube megastar. And I looked around and nobody in the room knew who it was, but it was a Spanish speaking with 27 million subscribers.
David Imel
Wow.
Marques Brownlee
So the peloton instructor, like, got a big standing ovation because I'm sure people who use peloton were like, oh, that's the guy.
David Imel
But from the billboard.
Marques Brownlee
But I don't use peloton. So I. Yeah, I was like, yeah. Anyway, so, yeah, that's. That's what happened.
David Imel
It was a lot. Yeah, you can pre order it now if you want and then if you don't, you don't have to.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, you can watch our Hands on Impressions video that went live this week. Check that out. Full review coming on. The good stuff, of course. So get subscribed if you want to watch that. Well, there's a couple other headlines of things that did happen. Should we get those after the break?
David Imel
Let's do that after the break.
Marques Brownlee
Should we hit one more trivia extravaganza break?
David Imel
Yeah, yeah, we'll do a trivia, but not the extravaganza break.
Andrew Marino
Just.
David Imel
That's later this month.
Marques Brownlee
Of course.
David Imel
Yes, regular trivia.
Andrew Marino
That's great.
Marques Brownlee
I'm good.
Mariah Zank
Squeak. So loud. Well, I'm glad we all made it to the Pixel Watch event this year. And so you all know I'm an avid user of the Pixel Watch. I wear it almost every day. Except for the days that it matters, because I forgot today. And my question for you is, how many times have I mentioned the Pixel Watch in our company Slack?
David Imel
How many times?
Mariah Zank
How many times? And this is Price is Right Rules closest without going over. So save your. Save your thoughts for later.
Andrew Marino
Did you have to use the term Pixel Watch?
Mariah Zank
I keyword searched. Exactly. Pixel Watch with only me.
Marques Brownlee
Okay, so images of it wouldn't have come up, but any text message with Pixel Watch would have come up. Okay, this is something that only.
Ellis Roven
But if you use the new Slack AI, it'll automatically decipher all your pictures. They do multimodal nonsense. Cents Burger. Jesus Christ.
Marques Brownlee
Well, we'll think about the answer. We'll be right back.
David Imel
Goodbye.
Marques Brownlee
Race the rudders.
David Imel
Raise the sails. Raise the sails.
Marques Brownlee
Captain, an unidentified ship is approaching. Over.
Andrew Marino
Roger.
David Imel
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Marques Brownlee
Eczema isn't always obvious, but it's real, and so is the relief from Ebglis. After an initial dosing phase, about 4 in 10 people taking EBGLIS achieved itch relief and clear or almost clear skin at 16 weeks, and most of those.
Mariah Zank
People maintain skin that's still more clear.
Marques Brownlee
At one year with monthly dosing.
Ellis Roven
EBGLIS Lebricizumab LBKZ, a 250mg 2ml injection.
David Imel
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Marques Brownlee
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Ellis Roven
Abercrombie is an official fashion partner of the NFL and I'm CeeDee Lamb, wide.
David Imel
Receiver for the Dallas Cowboys.
Marques Brownlee
You know I'm here for Abercrombie's Cowboys gear.
Ellis Roven
That's not a question, but I need.
Marques Brownlee
A whole wardrobe to go with it. No shade to the guys, but I'm.
Ellis Roven
Used to having the best tunnel fits.
David Imel
This season.
Marques Brownlee
Abercrombie has me covered. Shop NFL by Abercrombie in the app, online and in store Foreign.
David Imel
Welcome back. We're going to talk about something that's not specifically Google related, but maybe tangentially Google related in a very interesting way. According to Rick Osterloh on the stream today, if you got that, Meta is reportedly going to launch their Hypernova AR glasses this year for about 800, potentially next month. According to Mark Gurman on Bloomberg, it was originally reported that these would be over $1,000 but apparently meta is willing to take a loss to try to soup up demand. The difference between 800 and 1000. I'm not really sure if people are.
Marques Brownlee
Going to be willing to buy that.
David Imel
In the first place.
Marques Brownlee
Well, once there's a bunch more competitors in the market, it might look impressive. I for one am very excited to test all these glasses. These interesting, potentially useful glasses, like Google Rogastro literally said, in the event, we are going to be launching our AR glasses with Google soon.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
So we know they're working on those and they're coming soon. I got a demo a while ago, I thought they were amazing and I just want to use them in the real world. So yeah, 800 bucks. That's the first price tag we're thinking we might see. IRL.
David Imel
Yeah. So sure. Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
Apparently Google Glass was like 1600. How much was that?
David Imel
The Google Glass? It was 1000. Or was it 14? I think it was a thousand for the explorer edition.
Marques Brownlee
1500.
David Imel
Oh, 1500.
Ellis Roven
Yeah. What. What year was that?
David Imel
That was 2012.
Marques Brownlee
800 seems kind of impressive by that standard.
David Imel
Yeah. According to Mark Gurman, it says there is a small screen for mini apps and alerts on the right lens and they'll be controlled by the Orion wrist accessory that we tried last year.
Andrew Marino
Okay. So this is not totally like the Orion glasses where we saw lots of different things in like a very fully scoped and on both lens. This is like a hud.
David Imel
It's almost like a accessory to your smartphone in a way. Yeah, like a smartwatch.
Marques Brownlee
One way that Google has helped to understand like the different price tiers that these things could come in is single lens versus both lenses. Obviously having a display in one lens costs much less, so it doesn't look 3D or track over your environment, but you kind of can see things in a little hud. That's the single lens experience. And then the dual lens experience potentially lets it be tracked over your real world and have more depth and look like better fidelity, which is cool. But it's twice as expensive.
David Imel
Right.
Marques Brownlee
So this is like a lower priced version. 800 bucks. And then that kind of feels like a more expensive dual lens version. Might be in the 2000-3000 range. Right?
David Imel
Yeah. Wondering what time next month it apparently launches too, because we're getting.
Marques Brownlee
Isn't next month September?
Andrew Marino
It is.
Marques Brownlee
Okay.
David Imel
It's the big month.
Andrew Marino
I wouldn't be surprised if Meta was like, yeah, we can fight the iPhone.
David Imel
That's the same.
Marques Brownlee
Well, you kind of just want to get your stuff on the Shelf before the holiday season, no matter what. That's fair. The iPhone's going to do it every year anyway. But also here we have the Google event and like there's going to be, you know, Samsung stuff coming out. It's just the time of year to do stuff.
David Imel
Yeah, yeah, true. Speaking of the time of year to do stuff, if you remember from an episode many, many moons ago, Apple was sued by Masimo, a health tech company, for the life light based blood oxygen sensor in the Apple Watch. They had to remove it from the watches and they were not able to sell the Apple watch for a short period of time. So now they figured out a way around this. But now, and this is very funny, they the way that they figured out how to get around the patent was they will collect the data using the sensor on the watch, but they will not calculate the data on the watch. They will send the data to your phone and it will be calculated on your phone.
Marques Brownlee
I don't know if you can see that, but if you open the blood oxygen app now on the phone, it just goes on the watch now it just goes, oh, you can find this stuff on your phone.
David Imel
Yeah.
Marques Brownlee
So.
David Imel
So now I guess the way they get around the patent of a device that reads your blood oxygen is it takes the data, sends it to your phone and your phone reads the blood oxygen. Yeah. Which is certainly a way around it and something that I'm surprised that it took Apple this long to do.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, geniuses.
Andrew Marino
I mean, honestly, it probably took them that long because they probably really didn't want to do it.
David Imel
I thought that they were going to try to figure out like a different way to vaguely calculate your blood oxygen. So this is a better solution for them for sure.
Andrew Marino
Well, speaking of an Apple Watch, wow.
David Imel
We're like straight in, right? Straight through these things.
Andrew Marino
It's like real quick. Did you see this on. Someone posted this to our subreddit, but it was a post on the subreddit Industrial design. Someone made a post that says meet my design to try and get me off my smartphone and essentially made a fully metal case for his Apple Watch Ultra to be. It's. I guess it's a LTE Apple Watch Ultra where he's just using this completely independent of a phone and created an entire brutalist. It's super brutalist. Like very industrial.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
And just like milled. I forget what he said he's using.
David Imel
He's using aluminum.
Andrew Marino
Yes.
David Imel
He said he wanted to use titanium but it would have been a lot more expensive.
Andrew Marino
Yes. He also did a Stainless steel version, which was too heavy, but it's essentially kind of like an ipod nano. It's like a very small phone size, maybe two and a half times the height of an Apple Watch Ultra and just about as thick. Milled out a spot. So you can still use the crown and the buttons on the side. And it has a little like lanyard hole for it and stuff. It's pretty cool.
David Imel
This is not too dissimilar to. Recently Allison Johnson on the Verge did a article about can I just use an LTE powered smartwatch instead of my phone for an entire week?
Marques Brownlee
Instead of your phone?
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
And she just used it on her wrist the whole time.
David Imel
Yeah, yeah. And it was difficult, but it was doable.
Marques Brownlee
Probably relying your voice a lot.
David Imel
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the keyboard is not terrible on the watch.
Marques Brownlee
I hate poke typing on it. Swipe typing is okay sometimes, but. But okay.
David Imel
Yeah. Ironically, this attachment that he put it in looks very, very similar to this bang and Olson speaker from the 80s. Just hyper brutalist. Like mil metal.
Marques Brownlee
Yeah.
David Imel
So, yeah, he.
Andrew Marino
He did say, I think he's going to make a hundred of them.
David Imel
Yeah.
Andrew Marino
To start to for sale.
David Imel
Yeah. I kind of want to try this.
Andrew Marino
We'll link it in the show notes if anyone wants to see it. But I mean, we're pretty bad at describing things. There's not enough to describe here. It's a piece of metal with an Apple Watch inside.
Ellis Roven
Middleblock Trivia.
David Imel
Data. Is there food?
Ellis Roven
We all loved that Pixel event. And at one point, Jimmy Fallon freaked out because Google Vice President of Marketing, whose name I've conveniently forgotten and need to look up. Adrienne Lofton. Thank you for highlighting that for me, Mariah. Adrienne Lofton. You used the A word. But after that, she described iPhone users as what.
David Imel
Sheep? Yeah.
Andrew Marino
I think I remember.
Ellis Roven
So what's everyone doing this weekend?
David Imel
Going to the pool.
Andrew Marino
I think my cousin's probably going to go to sleep.
Marques Brownlee
I have a double practice.
Andrew Marino
You have a double practice? Oh, my goodness.
David Imel
Man. This man does not rest.
Ellis Roven
All right, let's flip these boards. Oh, my God. We all put the same thing. And it is 1, 2, 3, friends.
Andrew Marino
That would have been a great buzzer.
Ellis Roven
Have any of you guys have you ever said that authentically?
David Imel
No.
Andrew Marino
No.
David Imel
Neither have you.
Andrew Marino
I don't have any.
Ellis Roven
Ever said it agentically?
Marques Brownlee
Every day, thousands of times a day.
Mariah Zank
All right, Mariah, so the question to refresh your memory was how many times have I mentioned the phrase Pixel Watch in our company Slack Price is right Closest.
Andrew Marino
Without going over A number popped into my head when you first said it, and I'm ready.
Mariah Zank
Did you guys already write it down? So you didn't need any time at all?
David Imel
Yeah.
Ellis Roven
Well, now we got to sit through this.
David Imel
Price is Right.
Marques Brownlee
It's just kind of a guess, right?
David Imel
Yeah. Yeah. Unless you. Unless you have slack in your brain. Right.
Marques Brownlee
Based on pure Vibes.
Mariah Zank
Pixel Watch. Vibes.
David Imel
I'm searching right now.
Marques Brownlee
I'm indexing. Hold on.
Mariah Zank
All right, let's see it.
David Imel
Oh, wow. Oh, my goodness.
Andrew Marino
We got a spread here.
Mariah Zank
I can't read David's 13.
David Imel
Yeah.
Mariah Zank
Okay.
Andrew Marino
That's.
Mariah Zank
Yeah. No.
David Imel
Well, okay. But closest not going.
Andrew Marino
27.
Mariah Zank
27.
David Imel
Can't be more than that.
Mariah Zank
What does Marquez have?
David Imel
4. 4. What was it?
Mariah Zank
I think Andrew's the closest without over either. Yeah. What do you. Do you have a second guess how many. You've said it.
Marques Brownlee
There's no way you've said it that many times.
Mariah Zank
I've said it many times.
Andrew Marino
And you've posted. You post a lot of. Of, like, when you did the stairs in Pittsburgh, you posted the, like, how many crazy steps you took that day. That should count.
Marques Brownlee
But I don't think it's the phrase Pixel Watch in that.
Andrew Marino
Wait, hold on. She has the Pixel Watch one. So this is three. Three years of Pixel Watch.
David Imel
That's true.
Mariah Zank
It's mostly when I pulled it up, just, ah, Pixel Watch. And then profanity after. But the correct answer was actually 45.
David Imel
A little.
Mariah Zank
It's a lot. It's a lot Smokes.
Ellis Roven
In honor of this being the first episode. Excuse me. The first trivia question in this season of Waveform. Trivia.
David Imel
Wait, is it really? Yeah.
Ellis Roven
Wait, but super head trivia didn't count for anything.
Andrew Marino
Oh, it's been said 174 total times in Slack.
Ellis Roven
Are we Team Pixel?
David Imel
Get it from Google.
Andrew Marino
Right?
David Imel
Hit it.
Marques Brownlee
Get from Google.
Ellis Roven
Can we do a third trivia question or are we just going to deprive them it? Send it when I don't know what to do a trivia question about, which was me until about five minutes before we started taping this episode. Oh, I do Old Faithful, which is shellfish. And we also have Mariah on the podcast, which is begging for a crawfish question. And I'm kind of still on my New Orleans food game, and so I wrote a question that incorporates all three of these things.
David Imel
Incredible.
Ellis Roven
What New Orleans gumbo? Is that an acceptable answer to this question?
David Imel
Jambalaya.
Ellis Roven
Jambalaya is not gumbo, but is gumbo. Gumbo may be an acceptable answer to this question.
David Imel
Why'd you tell us?
Marques Brownlee
Yeah, just read.
Ellis Roven
What New Orleans staple food typically features both crayfish and rice?
David Imel
That's right.
Ellis Roven
Jambalaya. I mean, a gumbo. Jambalaya. I will not accept. Ah, but that usually sometimes has.
David Imel
Well, you didn't know the answer. I realized.
Ellis Roven
I realized how many acceptable answers there were in here. Like, gumbo probably works. I should have added that you have to start with a blonde roo. But actually, that disqualifies jambalaya but lets gumbo still sneak by. All right, I'm no longer accepting gumbo because that was already thrown out there.
David Imel
Wait, so what was the question?
Ellis Roven
It was name a New Orleans food that features both crayfish and rice. And I'm adding starts with a blonde roux.
David Imel
Blonde roux.
Ellis Roven
A blonde roux. And I'm not. And I'm not.
David Imel
Jambalaya doesn't count. A blond roux.
Ellis Roven
All right, flip them.
David Imel
Wait.
Ellis Roven
Red beans and rice with crawfish.
David Imel
No.
Ellis Roven
Next.
Marques Brownlee
She get points for that? I don't have anything.
Ellis Roven
Does that say kangaroo?
David Imel
Yeah.
Ellis Roven
Sweet. No. And Marquez has nothing. The correct answer was etouffee.
David Imel
You said a blonde rue etouffee.
Ellis Roven
Thank you for playing another episode of Ellis's New Orleans Kitchen. Thank you for watching Away from Podcast. It was produced by Ellis Roven and Mariah Zank. We are part of the Vox Media Podcast network, and our intro outro music was produced by Vanessa.
David Imel
Still. Bingo. Olivia loves a challenge. It's why she lifts heavy weights and likes complicated recipes.
Marques Brownlee
But for booking her trip to Paris.
David Imel
Olivia chose the easy way. With Expedia, she bundled her flight with.
Marques Brownlee
A hotel to save more.
David Imel
Of course, she still climbed all 674.
Andrew Marino
Steps to the top of the Eiffel Tower.
Marques Brownlee
You were made to take the easy route. We were made to easily package your trip. Expedia made to travel flight inclusive packages are atoll protected.
Date: August 22, 2025
Hosts: Marques Brownlee (MKBHD), Andrew Marino, David Imel, Ellis Roven, Mariah Zank
Network: Vox Media
This episode dives deep into Google's heavily publicized but controversial Pixel 10 launch event—an event as memorable for its tech news as for its celebrity-packed, talk show-style presentation hosted by Jimmy Fallon. The hosts break down new Pixel hardware, software, live AI demos, and discuss Google’s unusual approach to reaching a mainstream audience. They also provide hands-on impressions, share memorable quotes, and critique the spectacle and substance of the event.
[01:12–06:56]
“This was a phone announcement event masquerading as an infomercial, masquerading as organic celebrities hanging out…”
— Marques [17:38]
[07:10–15:04]
Models: Pixel 10, 10 Pro, 10 Pro XL, and 10 Pro Fold.
Pricing: Same as last year; “not that much is actually different.”
Hardware Changes:
Identifying Differences:
Quote:
“If you were hoping for 100 watt charging or a 100MP camera… it’s not.”
— Marques [09:57]
[13:11–15:04]
[15:04–18:44]
“They should’ve just spent the money on 15 minutes of Taylor Swift.”
— David [17:12]
[18:17–21:03]
Live phone call translation demo “went pretty well” (with minor hiccups and a memorable odd translation: “I am a crazy person.”).
Impressive live AI voice cloning (“within two seconds of your voice”).
Discussion around privacy and deep Google data integration.
Quote:
“It is impressive that they’re able to generate an AI voice of you within two seconds.”
— David [18:41]
[28:41–40:53]
“There is a metadata history of every edit that has been made to the image.”
— David [41:12]
[48:16–54:53]
Pixel Watch 4
Quote:
“It looks like a bubble. More than ever now.”
— Marques [49:44]
Pixel Buds 2a
[61:33–67:07]
On Hardware Naming:
"Lots of really great names, easy names."
— Marques, sarcastically [07:28]
On Event Style:
"It was a combination of a late night show, a morning talk show, and like the Super Smash Brothers, everyone is here intro cutscene, and an infomercial."
— David [07:00]
On Demo Fears:
"Having seen that demo in person fail many times...I was watching that intently, like this could go horribly..."
— Marques [18:10]
On AI-Powered Photos:
"Every photo they take that they care about, they just say ‘make this look better’ to every photo.”
— David [36:18]
On the Watch's Domed Design:
"It's like a bubble screen. It almost looks like the surface tension of, like, you fill a glass all the way up with water, and then it's bubbling over the top."
— Marques [49:25]
On Google’s Event Investment:
"They could have spent all that money on 15 minutes of Taylor Swift and probably would have had better conversion."
— David [17:12]
| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------|------------| | The event’s style and opening reactions | 01:12–07:00| | Pixel 10 hardware overview | 07:10–15:04| | Pixel Fold and accessories | 13:11–15:04| | Celebrity approach of the event | 15:04–18:44| | Memorable live AI/translation demos | 18:17–21:03| | Software highlights (Magic Q, Conversational Editing) | 28:41–40:53| | Pixel Watch 4 and Buds 2a review | 48:16–54:53| | Meta/AR glasses, Apple watch patent drama | 61:33–67:07|
This episode of Waveform provides a thorough, entertaining, and critical debrief of the Google Pixel 10 event—balancing skeptical humor about the event’s format with genuine intrigue for product updates and AI-powered features. The hosts make it clear: while Google’s hardware refinements are minor, new integrations like Pixel Snap, Magic Q, conversational photo editing, and real-world AI demos stand out. However, Google’s attempt to court the mainstream with star power may have missed the mark.
For listeners wanting clear, hands-on analysis of what’s new (and what’s not) with the Pixel 10 ecosystem—and musings on where tech launches are headed—this episode delivers.