Waveform Episode 300: Livestreamed!

Summary

Waveform Episode 300: Livestreamed!

Podcast: Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast
Episode: 300
Date: July 15, 2025
Hosts: Marques Brownlee (MKBHD), Andrew Manganelli, David Imel, Adam, and Ellis

Episode Overview

For Waveform's milestone 300th episode, Marques, Andrew, David, Adam, and Ellis recorded the show live on YouTube, inviting real-time audience interaction. The celebratory episode is part retrospective, part Q&A free-for-all, and part classic Waveform banter—delightfully unfiltered and full of spontaneous debates, nostalgia, and inside jokes. The conversation spans the evolution of the show, tech industry memories, headphone and browser preferences, hot takes on 2025’s trends, and a whirlwind of listener-submitted questions about everything from cheese to EVs to favorite apps.

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Main Themes & Structure

• Handling the chaos and technical hiccups of a live taping
• Reflecting on six years and 300 episodes of Waveform
• Stories from behind the scenes
• Rapid-fire Q&A with audience-sourced questions on tech, life, and (of course) cheese
• Debates over tech hot takes, favorite gadgets, personal routines, and team trivia

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Going Live and Technical Hiccups

• The team started the livestream late due to OBS mishaps and going live on a test channel instead of the main one.
  • “Going live is always an adventure…” – Marques (02:35)
• They laughed through the confusion and welcomed over 4,000 live viewers as they got rolling.

2. Six Years of Waveform: Podcast Retrospective

Timestamps: 06:30 – 10:40

• Marques and Andrew recall starting the show in August 2019 as an audio-only project.
  • “The idea of the podcast … was we have a lot of these conversations about tech that don’t make it to videos…we just want to capture those…” – Marques (06:30)
• Adam became the official producer at episode 50, with David joining first as a trivia guest and later as a full-time host.
• Ellis joined as a producer in May 2022 (episode 116) and vividly recalls his on-air debut when Marques put him on the spot.
  • “I was just like, ‘what am I supposed to do?’” – Ellis (09:32)
• David credits a trivia episode and the Boosted Board deep dive for building the show’s long-form style.
• “We’re halfway through 2025. We’re closing in on six years of this being a podcast. 300 episodes. Lots of thoughts, lots of dishes washed.” – Marques (10:08)

3. Audience Q&A and Real-Time Banter

Timestamps: 10:45 – Ongoing

• The episode becomes a rapid-fire Q&A, with the crew reading and reacting to live chat questions:

Tech & Gadgets

• Fairphone 6 Review?: “Maybe. Let me know if you think we should.” – Marques (11:48)
  • David is rallying for a long-discussed “dumb phone” switch.
• Headphones: Marques daily-drives Powerbeats Pro 2, Sony WH-1000XM6, and Sennheiser HD650s for editing. Andrew, David, and Ellis debate the merits of AirPods Pro 2, Bose, Sonos, and proper ear tip fitting.
  • Spirited argument: “The AirPods Pro 2 are the best sounding headphones I have—but the noise cancellation is not even close to the [Bose].” – David (19:04)
• Browsers: ARK, Chrome, Zen, Comet/Perplexity—each is split between work (Chrome) and personal (Zen); Marques is still all-in on Arc, while David tries every new AI browser but remains skeptical.
  • “The best feature of Arc is just being able to hide the sidebar…” – David (27:11)
• Microphones: Marques uses an Electro-Voice RE27ND for its brightness, while the rest use Shure SM7Bs.
  • “It just sounds better with my voice.” – Marques (16:41)
• Favorite Smartwatches: Samsung Watch 8 Classic is a standout for style but has software missteps.
• Favorite Keyboards: Andrew recommends the Hippojune R1 as the best budget build (21:05).

Life & Behind the Scenes

• How old were you 300 episodes ago? – Everyone does the math and jokes about who is the oldest/youngest.
• Who’s the tallest? – Marques, but the entire crew is above average height.
• Dishes washed while listening: “That should be a Spotify Wrapped stat!” – David (10:26)
• What’s the story with Adam’s tattoos? – A Harry Potter-themed sleeve, with Ellis revealing his first impressions of Adam as a “real dude” turned “big softie.” (47:17)

Nostalgic Stories

• Dreams and Boosted Board Debates: David narrates a vivid dream involving a rollerbladed commute, technical limitations, ice cream sundaes, and a debate with Marques about making chocolate harden on ice cream with melted butter (04:05).
• Mic sharing: The show’s evolving audio setup has led to many inside jokes about why Adam and Ellis share a mic.
  • “It’s just the way it is for now. Enjoy it.” – Marques (86:38)

Food, Cheese, & Snack Debates

• Favorite Cheese: Mozzarella and pepper jack for Marques, provolone for Andrew, American for meltiness—but no love for crumbly cheeses or blue cheese (“Blue cheese is trash” – Marques, 40:00).
• Favorite Taco Bell Item: Marques swears by Cheesy Fiesta Potatoes; Ellis is team Doritos Locos Taco Supreme; David goes old-school vegetarian with the 7 Layer Burrito.
• Pringle Flavor: Sour cream & onion wins, though Ellis vouches for coffee + cheddar Pringle combos (52:55).
• Wawa Order: Andrew loves Italian subs soaked in oil and vinegar, David goes for the honey smoked turkey shorty. Ellis prefers ham & cheese panini with tomato bisque.

4. Tech Hot Takes and Opinions

Timestamps: 65:48+

• Hot Tech Takes for 2025:

  • Marques: The Nothing Phone 3 isn’t a punchline if it’s $499—design bias is price-driven (66:07).
  • David: “Apple is in its not good era right now—it feels like they’re in a dip.” (66:25)
  • Ellis: “The quickest way a tech company can ruin their brand is by publicly pivoting to AI... everyone will hate you.” (68:07)
  • Adam: “Android is gonna be the cool one again. I think the pendulum swing is coming back.” (70:49)

• AI in daily life: David and Marques use Gemini “once or twice a day”; Andrew avoids it, preferring traditional links over AI summaries (30:50).

• Google Product Graveyard Predictions: Google Chat or Tasks are on the chopping block; chat jokes Google will kill Keep, Drive, or even the Pixel Tablet (51:20).

• Favorite EVs and Cameras:

  • Marques: Lucid Air Sapphire is “the 10 out of 10 acceleration EV”; Rivian R1T for a truck.
  • David: Fuji X100VI is the “best digital camera ever made”—leading to some friendly pushback from Marques and Andrew on the meaning of “best.” (43:32+)

5. Memorable Quotes & Banter

• “We washed 800 plates listening to Waveform.” – David (10:28)
• “I get 120 FPS [playing DOTA 2] on my MacBook Pro.” – David (57:57)
• “My favorite cheese is pepper jack and mozzarella – 1a and 1b for me.” – Marques (39:11)
• “The only thing I miss about [Model S] is…true drive itself in traffic.” – Marques (57:22)
• “Favorite podcast episode? The sacred history or NO I CAN ones because Ellis, Adam and I went to Virginia and stayed in a small hotel…” – David (40:31)
• “I don’t like crumbly cheeses at all…feta is bad, blue cheese is trash.” – Marques (39:50)
• “The bar for a city app is really low, but [the Brooklyn Public Library app] never crashes, pretty responsive.” – Ellis (76:20)
• “It’s like a living room on wheels—200 kWh battery, 9000 lbs, 450 miles range.” – Marques on the Escalade IQ (59:45)
• On Apple’s design: “It feels like there’s not cohesive leadership at the design level...they’re in their dip era.” – David (66:34)
• “If you’re thinking about pivoting your company to AI…everyone will hate you.” – Ellis (68:10)

6. Community & Podcast Legacy

• Repeated thanks to listeners for supporting Waveform through 6 years and 300 episodes.
• Running jokes about the “Cheerios box” as a set artifact, and the tradition of Adam and Ellis sharing a mic.
  • “That’s the truth about a lot of things…on YouTube and on this podcast…It just feels right.” — Marques (86:38)

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Notable Moments & Timestamps

• [02:35] – The team stumbles through livestream technical issues and starts the show.
• [04:05] – David narrates his wild pre-show dream (and recurring theme of food debates).
• [06:30] – Pod history: why Waveform started and how it’s evolved.
• [16:41] – Podcast mic choices explained (and gently mocked).
• [40:00] – Heated cheese debates: mozzarella vs. blue cheese and crumbled vs. melted.
• [49:04] – Adam and Ellis rapid-fire audio Q&A: best starter setup, why they upgraded mixers.
• [51:20] – Speculating on which Google product gets killed next.
• [65:48] – HOT TECH TAKES rapid-fire: Apple’s rough patch, AI brand-killer theory, Android’s “cool” comeback.
• [73:05] – The Wawa order segment: regional sandwich loyalties.
• [76:11] – Library app praise: Ellis defends the Brooklyn Public Library app.
• [81:01] – Comedic confusion about what the "S" stands for in "S Pen" and Galaxy naming.
• [84:58] – The real story behind Adam and Ellis sharing a mic.
• [86:38] – The “Cheerios box” and running with peculiar set pieces just because.

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In the Original Spirit

The live format accentuated the show’s spontaneous, playful, and slightly chaotic style—an “open kitchen” look at what makes Waveform so engaging and grounded. The team’s humility in facing technical snafus, their willingness to indulge audience curiosity (on and off-tech topics), and their honest takes and self-deprecation show why listeners keep coming back.

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Closing Sentiment

"That’s the truth about a lot of things on YouTube and on this podcast… it just feels right. And that’s just the way it is for now. Enjoy it. Thanks for watching, thanks for listening, and for dropping a bunch of comments. This was really fun. We’ll probably do this again." – Marques Brownlee (86:38)

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Final Shoutout

Congratulations to the Waveform team on 300 episodes—a tech podcast for the nerdy, the hungry, the headphone-obsessed, and everyone in between!

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Sorry, I was like, was that that loud? Okay, now we're. We're going live.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[D]

Let us know.

[C]

I'm live on Marquez.

[A]

Guess.

[D]

Wait, we're not live, right?

[A]

Yeah, you want me to count down?

[B]

Well, we're already live.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

No, no, no. But they can't. They can't see you yet. We still have the technical difficulty.

[D]

Can they hear us?

[A]

So let me know when we're live.

[B]

I see you live on the thing right now. Oh, okay. Yeah, we're live. Yeah, we're live. Okay.

[A]

Okay, great. Yo, welcome. Welcome to the super. On time, super impromptu, but definitely live. You obviously can tell it's really live waveform. Episode number 300, like the movie. It's good to be here, guys.

[E]

Why are we late?

[A]

Yeah, well, going live is always an adventure. And you guys are setting up obs and wanted to plug it into this channel, and we were testing it on another channel and we went live in obs and it wasn't live here. And we'd have to connect the dots. Now it's all good.

[B]

We were going live to Adam's channel, our test channel. Yeah, for a little bit there. What was happening?

[D]

Oh, that's funny.

[B]

But we're here.

[A]

We're here. We're your hosts. I'm Marques.

[B]

I'm Andrew.

[D]

And I'm David.

[A]

So we had a lot of fun at the Last live thing that we did, which is south by Southwest, but that was on stage for like, a. Technically a closed event where you had to, like, pay to have tickets to south by and then go to our thing. This. We just wanted to have fun and do an episode for everyone. And episode 300 was a good opportunity to do that because we've. We've come a long way. What do we want to do? Because we have. We have chat gone pretty crazy right now. We can talk to them.

[D]

I want to tell you a story really quickly.

[B]

Sure. Wait, before you do that.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Start asking questions in the chat, please. Most of this episode will be us answering them. We have people grabbing questions from here. David's going to tell a story, then we're going to get a little sappy about the podcast and then we'll answer questions.

[D]

That's nice.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Last night I had a dream. Okay. I want to tell you guys about my dream.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So this is right before I woke up, by the way. So I still remember the whole thing.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Incredible. Okay. I was rollerblading to work. I don't know why. I don't know how to rollerblade the commute. I think that we were. We were like in another city. I was rollerblading. It was super fun. I was like, this is so sick to do this live podcast.

[A]

Right?

[D]

Okay. So I get to the office and we're in this other room. But you guys were like, okay, in order to do this live podcast, we only own one camera, so we have to. Basically, we had this small round table that was like. It was like this big. It was not big. And we're all kind of crowded around it with this big wide angle lens. And we're like, okay, guys, we're doing the live podcast. And then we had like, sundaes, you know, like ice cream sundaes.

[A]

Mm.

[D]

And they had banana splits in them. And Marques tried to convince me that the way that you make chocolate, like, hard on the top of ice cream is by putting like, like melting butter and pouring it on it. And I was like, that's not how that works. He was like, yes, it is. And then we fought about it for, like, a while.

[A]

Your brain.

[D]

And then I woke up.

[A]

Your brain does not have very much faith in me.

[C]

You were triggered by the conversation the other day about whether it was read or read receipts.

[A]

Yeah, we did have a whole test stream where then we went into this 40 minute conversation about read receipts versus read receipts. By the way, I put out a poll on Twitter and Threads is it read Receipts or Read Receipts.

[E]

Wait, you mean you put it out on Twitter and Threads?

[A]

Well, I put. So Threads said Read Receipts won the poll, but on Twitter, Read Receipts won the poll.

[D]

Yeah, but how much did it win by on Threads?

[A]

So it won by a higher percentage on Threads, but less votes were cast on Threads. So I had to do the math because there was 50,000 more votes on Twitter, even though it won by a smaller percentage and overall total between all of the votes, I think Read Receipts slightly edged out. No. Read Receipts slightly edged out Read Receipts, which was a bummer because that's incorrect. But thank you anyway. That happened. Chat is going crazy. I see a lot of you guys saying the volume's low, so I think we're gonna try to bump that up a little bit. Is it live or pre recorded? It's live threes. Thank you. Shout out to everyone who is actually doing your dishes. This is super new. But, David, why do you think the RX1R that just got released is $5,000? Is $5,000?

[D]

Cause they can shout out to Sony. Shout out to Sony. And tariffs.

[A]

All right, so small retrospective, then we'll go all chat. Because we wanted to just sort of recap how we got here to episode 300.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

So Waveform started as just Andrew and I and just audio. And that was 2019, August 2019, when we first started. And the idea of the podcast was pretty. It's kind of the same as it is now, which was we have a lot of these conversations about tech that don't make it to videos or are kind of like the run up that turns into videos, etc. And we just want to capture those because they're actually really interesting conversations. Maybe people will enjoy them.

[B]

And sometimes it's like the conversation we're having for the first time. So you can almost see all our brains working on, like, how this could there have been conversations on the podcast that we've turned into videos because we've had a good enough conversation about it.

[A]

Yeah, Unfinished thoughts.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Getting into the weeds on stuff. It soon turned into a weekly podcast and we had two years of basically getting up to weekly by January 2021.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then Adam joined as a permanent producer of the Waveform podcast Shout out to Adam.

[B]

That was episode 50.

[A]

Adam is also currently live camera switching right now. So he is locked in. But that was Adam's joining. David joined as a guest host for the first time ever, also in 2021. And actually this is the beginning of trivia.

[B]

So it was episode 54. Do you remember this?

[D]

I remember doing the trivia thing.

[B]

There's like a trivia segment of us and he was the host of the trivia segment. I think it was before video. But that kind of was technically the first trivia we've ever done on the podcast.

[D]

Yeah, we had the set, the second.

[B]

Table, the weird table in here.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's also the first time we did a long form episode, which is when you told us the story essentially of how boosted boards rose and fell. And we've done some many more really interesting long form storytelling type episodes since then, which is awesome looking here.

[B]

Between episode 45 and 62, a lot of stuff happened.

[A]

We leveled up. We decided it would be a real.

[B]

Thing basically because that was episode 59 for Rise and Fall of Boosted. And then episode 62 is our first video.

[A]

Yeah. So then, you know, we fast forward a little bit. Tim starts making a sort of a temnal thumb. Wow.

[D]

Template.

[A]

Thumbnail template.

[B]

We can't redo that.

[A]

A Tim nail. We have Tim nails now. And we also started, we added Ellis as a full time producer. His first episode is 2022 in May. That was episode 116.

[E]

Can I tell a funny story from that real quick, please?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Because when you get hired here, there's like a short period where you're not on camera. You're still like finding your way and like you're just sort of, you know, get used to the vibe before you're like. And there was no producer cam at this point. So it wasn't like I was going to be on camera. But on my first waveform episode before I had any idea what was going on, like, still learning the ropes. I'm like sitting back here in the corner and like, you turn around, Marques, and you just go, ellis, what do you think about that? And I was just like, what am I supposed to do?

[D]

I don't exist.

[E]

I don't exist.

[A]

No pressure. Yeah. This is a pretty classic intro. But then, yeah, by the time we get to 2023, David is a full time permanent host. We are doing videos, we are cooking on YouTube.

[D]

That was 2023.

[A]

Yeah. And it's been growing for like permanent full time. Because you were on plenty of episodes before then. That's still crazy.

[B]

You hosted so many. So this morning I asked ChatGPT, how many episodes did David host before 2023? And I said 297.

[A]

It has no idea, considering there are 300 total episodes.

[D]

It has no idea.

[B]

It has no clue.

[D]

Yeah, it's Funny.

[A]

But long story short, we're halfway through 2025. We're closing in on six years of this being a podcast. 300 episodes. Lots of thoughts, lots of dishes washed, lots of trivia questions answered.

[D]

I would love to know the stats on how many dishes have been washed.

[A]

I think about that.

[D]

A lot of Spotify wrapped.

[B]

That would be an awesome section of Spotify wrapped.

[D]

We washed 800 plates.

[A]

Listening to Waveform. But, yeah, thank you for subscribing, of course, and for listening and for watching and for being a part of Waveform. Now I'm locked in on chat. I'm just watching chat now. I want to know what you guys want to know.

[B]

Chat.

[D]

Are we good?

[A]

I think you just read from questions.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I've just seen a lot of. Nice shirt, David.

[D]

Oh, thank you. This is my party shirt for the live episode. Try to make it colorful.

[A]

Here's a random one. Fit Arista. Will Fairphone 6 get a full review? Maybe. Oh, this is perfect. We would normally not keep talking through the. I don't know if you guys can hear the, like, lawnmower, the air rake. What do you call it? Air rake or lawnmower?

[E]

Air rake.

[A]

Air rake. I've called it. I grew up on air rake and everyone else says leaf blower, but I grew up on air rake.

[D]

I've never even heard of that.

[E]

That sounds like.

[D]

I thought that was a twitch streamer.

[A]

Air Rack. Airrack is a YouTuber.

[E]

And Air Rake sounds like what they would call it in the 50s to, like, wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Consume.

[A]

But it made so much sense because as a kid I was like, yeah, air rake. That makes perfect sense.

[B]

What do you call the other one for, like, edges and the trimmer? String trimmer.

[A]

Oh, string. Yeah. Or weed whacker. Weed whacker.

[D]

Oh, the weed whacker. Yeah.

[A]

Weed whacker is more. More on point. But yeah, we normally.

[B]

This is our first debate of the live.

[A]

We would normally stop recording when that makes noise, but it's live.

[C]

I normally would have cut that whole section, but, you know, here we are.

[A]

Exactly. Will Fairphone 60 to full review? I don't know. You should. David says I should. David has one. I do have one as well. Yeah, maybe that's a good idea. Let me know if you think we should.

[D]

I need you to experience the switch.

[A]

True. We've been talking about this Fairphone 6 dumb phone switch for, like, three episodes now. Good to know.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, let's see. How old were you guys? 300 episodes ago, so 20.

[A]

19.

[B]

Yeah, 29.

[D]

I was six years older.

[A]

25. Yeah.

[E]

And I was tweeting all the time, actually.

[A]

Yeah. What were you.

[B]

How old are you six years ago when you tweeted that joke?

[D]

Six years ago, I was already doing waveform for six years. I don't know what you're talking about.

[A]

Nice.

[E]

I was in 2019.

[D]

You were a baby.

[E]

That was six years ago. So I would have been 21 years old. Never met Marques Brownlee.

[A]

Wow. Innocent.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I think I was 27 six years ago.

[D]

I was a BB. I was 24. Yeah, I'm old, Ellis, you know, time.

[A]

You just learned how old Adam is. Wait, what?

[D]

Adam never gives away secrets about himself. So I've known adam for like 11 years and I still know nothing about him. And believe me, I ask.

[E]

I asked, what's behind the beard, Adam?

[B]

A really baby face, sadness saying, 4,000 people watching right now.

[A]

Hey, that's what I said. Isn't that what I told you?

[B]

You actually said like 4300.

[A]

4300 and something.

[D]

I guess 325. So I'm happy.

[A]

All right, what else are people asking? Let's see. Watch 8 Classic review. I did just get the Watch 8 Classic, so that's also a candidate for review. And I'm doing a video on a bunch of other things related to it, so that might be an option.

[B]

Yeah, I saw Mr. Mobile saying, like, it is the most beautiful smart watch he's like, ever worn. And why are there pill shaped buttons in like a circular watch? And there's so many software decisions that feel pretty rough about it.

[D]

Yeah, I'm surprised that he said it's the most beautiful watch because he's like, always been in on the. The nautical version of the Garmin the Captain.

[B]

It is a really nice looking watch. Yeah, I think it's one of the nicest looking ones. If it didn't have two days of.

[D]

Battery life, it's almost as nice looking as you.

[A]

Danny says, is notion still king? We still use notion.

[C]

Define king.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. King meaning we. It's our king. We use it here. But, you know, there's lots of options that we could also use. We just. We are so built into notion now that we're kind of just. It is our king. Yeah, yeah. Boring answer.

[B]

Best emoji. Oh, this is a good question. Objectively, you guys already know super fun times. Oh, what is it?

[C]

The HDR one that Ellis made, clearly.

[E]

No, I didn't. I didn't make it. Okay, I found it.

[B]

Let's do best, like, not default, but you know, like common emoji comment emoji.

[E]

No stickers. Because my custom emoji stickers go crazy.

[D]

What is a comment?

[A]

I'm going with the common Common melting face.

[D]

Melting face is amazing.

[A]

That's my melting face. It's not even hot in here yet, but I'm gonna use that emoji scene.

[B]

I like upside down face. That just feels like a. Like, I don't. Why is this happening?

[D]

Yeah, I'm gonna look at my emoji keyboard and see what I've been using recently.

[B]

Do you have one? Ellis or Adam?

[D]

A little scared.

[C]

Mine is definitely the salute.

[A]

I use that one all the time.

[E]

Salute. Melty face are both really good.

[D]

I used the joker recently.

[A]

The joker emoji.

[D]

The joker card.

[A]

Oh, card.

[B]

Oh, I didn't even know you're saying that's best emoji.

[A]

No, he just used.

[D]

Oh, you know what's really good? The Easter island head.

[A]

That's actually.

[D]

I love that one.

[E]

So it's not a common emoji, but I recently obtained a sticker that's the, like, looking down shame emoji while putting on the clown mask emoji.

[A]

Yeah, Combo emojis are in with AI Tiny Media says. Why do you guys have different microphones? Well, we might have answered this before.

[E]

Yeah, Marques, why do we have different microphones?

[A]

Yeah, so you might notice that I'm the only one with a different microphone. There's a Shure SM7B over there. There's a Shure SM7B over there. There's a short SM7B over there. True. And then there's a electro voice. RE27.

[D]

It's because Marques and I sound too similar. So if we had the same mic.

[E]

It'S an re, we would never know.

[D]

That we were not the same person.

[E]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Re 27.

[E]

No, no, it's an Re 20 blank. Nd it's a. It's the broadcast variant of the 27. It's a little bit brighter. It still has the same proximity effect, like caging, but I don't want to.

[B]

Argue with Ellis, but I thought the 27 was the broadcast version of the RE20.

[E]

Yeah. No, no, you're so right. You know, I do have a degree in this, but like, argue all you want, you know, whatever.

[B]

Wait, am I right or wrong?

[A]

No, it says RE27ND on it.

[B]

Yeah, it sounds RE27 on it, but.

[A]

I got it just because of the brightness and how it sounds better with my voice. And then I just got used to it and now my voice sounds muddy. Wait, can I switch to your mic for a second?

[E]

No, Andrew, you are right. I'm totally wrong.

[A]

See how much muddier it sounds? Doesn't that sound dull?

[D]

And so you gave us the muddy mics.

[A]

No, just it's. I simply got used to it. That's what I think.

[B]

That's a pro boss move right there.

[A]

I think you guys sound great on it. But I wonder if you use this mic if it would sound bad also. Cause it's different.

[C]

You'll just never sound as great as he does.

[D]

It does sound different.

[A]

This is just good for my voice.

[D]

I've used your mic before when you're gone, and I will use it after you're gone.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

Is that a threat? You decide. It does sound weird on my voice for sure.

[A]

Who's doing the camera cuts? Bumble. That would be Adam.

[D]

Bumble.

[A]

Bumble. He's doing the camera cuts live as we talk.

[C]

I'm trying my best, so give me some grace, please.

[A]

Which is. It's gone really well. L. Critic. What headphones do y' all daily drive? Interesting question. Oh, I have two answers, actually. Yeah, we'll start it powerbeats Pro for working out, and then at the moment, Sony WH1000XM6 for traveling in flights and everything else.

[C]

Wait. Powerbeats Pro. The OGs.

[A]

Oh, I actually have a third answer.

[C]

Powerbeats Pro 2, the current.

[A]

Sorry, the new Powerbeats Pro 2. While I work out the Sony WH1000XM6 when I'm traveling, but also while editing what is on my desk. It's the open Sennheiser HD 650s on my desk. That's what I edit with. So those are the three headphones that I use.

[D]

That's a lot.

[B]

There's a lot of headphones.

[D]

Yeah. I've been using the Bose QuietComfort Ultra earbuds because they have best noise cancellation. By far.

[A]

They do. Sony's just.

[D]

Oh, for buds.

[A]

Yeah. Sony's are also incredible.

[D]

Their ANC is insane.

[A]

Fair enough.

[D]

Okay, Ellis, tell me which ones are better.

[E]

You already know, bro.

[D]

They're not. They're not even close. The AirPods are not even close mathematically. No, they're not. They are. They're not.

[E]

They are.

[D]

They're not.

[E]

They are.

[D]

I don't have a degree in this, and they're not.

[E]

It's the kind of thing where, like, maybe for your ears.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[E]

They're like the shape of your ear canals. They're better, but I promise.

[A]

No.

[E]

The AirPods Pro 2.

[D]

They're horrible. Listen, they sound really good.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I think the AirPods Pro 2 are the best sounding headphones I have. But the noise cancellation is not even close to the.

[A]

You might have a bad fit.

[E]

Yeah. Then you have a bad fit.

[A]

They are really, really good.

[D]

Why have the lightning ones? Are they different?

[E]

No, no. You're using the wrong ear tips. That means.

[A]

Yeah. Wait, are you talking about the wireless noise canceling silicon tip AirPods?

[E]

The ones widely regarded as in class?

[D]

Yeah, but they're not as good. Noise cancellation. They are.

[A]

They're not.

[B]

They're.

[D]

They're. I'm gonna look this up right now.

[A]

You should. You should mess with the tip size just to see if it gives you different tips. Yes. There's four. They come with a bunch of tips. And you probably just kept the medium ones that are on it or whatever.

[D]

All my really earwax in it too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, I use the Beats Fit Pro for working out and the Sonos Ace for mowing the lawn.

[A]

Sonos Ace.

[B]

Yeah. I do like them. They're comfy.

[A]

They are.

[C]

For mowing the lawn.

[B]

For mowing the lawn and flying.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, it's.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Over ear.

[A]

Over ear. Need it to be quieter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Lots of white noise canceling. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[D]

All right. This is from sound guys, Adam's old employer. Okay.

[C]

Oh, snap.

[A]

They're in the chat. No, you can't have him. Oh. Oh.

[D]

It's like a comparison article between the two. And they use a lot of scientific data that Adam used to spend a lot of hours.

[C]

Too many hours.

[A]

Hmm. Oh, someone said that.

[D]

Good.

[A]

Someone just said. Well, this isn't even a question. Suresh Rajan said, haven't watched Jurassic park, but have watched Jurassic World. Come on, Marquez. And I'm gonna watch the new one. I'm gonna watch the new one, too. New Jurassic World coming out.

[B]

Skip the first one. I'll watch it.

[A]

I'll watch it eventually. It's so easy to watch it that I don't feel rushed.

[D]

You mean the original one?

[A]

Yeah. Well, I've seen parts of it.

[D]

It's probably streaming on Hubu.

[B]

I unironically used to be the other day. Yeah, it's real. To be is still real.

[A]

It's trying to make one up in my head.

[D]

Is it on to be or not to be?

[B]

They should only do Shakespeare. I have someone asking what the best budget keyboard is right now. And my.

[A]

That's all you.

[B]

Yeah, there's a lot. There's. There's plenty out on Amazon, like Hippiotech will tell you. But the hippie June R1, I think. Or just the Hibby June. You still have to build it and buy all the switches and everything. But it's the most unique, cheapest keyboard. And out of all the nice ones that I have, it's the one I still use every day. So that's my. My favorite.

[C]

Sorry, how much was that one? Did you mention it already?

[B]

I don't. It probably when you build everything, if you do it very budget focus, like 200 bucks.

[A]

Dang.

[B]

That's unfortunately budget in this world. There's some good cheaper magic.

[A]

Magic keyboard.

[C]

That's what I was gonna say. I was definitely gonna be like, if.

[D]

You'Re on a budget, just Mariah says do not watch the Jurassic Park. It sucks.

[A]

Oh, she saw it already?

[D]

Yeah, and it sucks. Did you see that?

[A]

Sounds like it's right up my alley.

[D]

I wonder if she saw it in.

[A]

40X though, because yeah, Jurassic World.

[C]

No, I think she wanted to watch the F1 movie in 40x.

[A]

I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I don't think I can possibly dislike a movie with good dinosaur graphics.

[D]

With good dinosaur graphics.

[A]

I think if the CG is really good and the dinosaurs are very realistic, I'll enjoy it no matter what.

[D]

Why don't we just bring them back?

[A]

Well, that's like a whole careful plot.

[D]

We already brought the wolves back. The dire wolves.

[A]

That was like a whole bad thing that happened in the movie. Have you seen the movie?

[D]

Yeah, but like, I don't know.

[A]

It went pretty poorly.

[D]

We have like tanks and stuff.

[A]

That's true.

[D]

I don't think we should be that worried about dinosaurs.

[C]

Correction. Mariah just messaged me personally and says she did see it in 4D, so.

[D]

I would not think any.

[B]

I think she's driving home from vacation right now.

[A]

Wait, someone just asked. What about the new Sony phone review? Is there a new Sony phone that I should know about? That's actually.

[B]

Yeah, it just came out and will actually come to market in seven months?

[A]

Yeah, several follow up questions to that. One, what is it? And is it actually out or is it not coming out for six months? And two, is it actually good? Do you care about my opinion or are you actually just trolling? You might be trying.

[D]

Damn.

[A]

Woo.

[D]

Xperia 17 I would love to see. That's a month ago.

[C]

Do like an actual Sony review. But again, it's just like they announce it and then it comes out like seven months later and it's just kind of confusing.

[A]

I give them a shot Every time. Every time I see them in my inbox, I go, oh, a new Sony phone. And then like, literally four out of the last five times I've done a Sony flagship phone review. It just. It starts off with some promise and they have some interesting things. And then it goes downhill of, like, wait, it's how expensive? And they have what as their primary features, and it just kind of falls apart. So I'm rooting for them, but they haven't given me much hope lately.

[B]

Somebody asked, how did you come up with the name Waveform? Do you remember this?

[A]

Ooh, the name.

[C]

I spoke to you guys in a dream.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so we. Yeah, do you remember exactly?

[B]

Yeah, we were thinking of a lot of things that were audio puns in some way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we actually decided with WVFRM because it kind of sounds like a radio station. And also if we, at that point, WVFRM MKBHD fit on top of each other, same amount of letters. Then we started with Studio71 and they were like, podcast searching is terrible if you don't. If you're saying Waveform out loud, you should name it Waveform spelled out loud. So that's why you might see WVFRM sometimes and Waveform most of the time, because podcast discoverability is terrible.

[D]

Live from WVFRM Chicago.

[B]

It kind of sounds cool.

[D]

65 degrees and sunny.

[C]

Also, we did that mistake with our channels when we were making the video channels. It's like the Waveform podcast and then the WVFRM clips, and it haunts me every day.

[A]

Alex the dev, still using arc.

[D]

I have a lot to say about this.

[A]

Are you still using arc?

[C]

I am not. I am using a mixture of Chrome and Zen browser now.

[A]

A mixture. Interesting. And are you using.

[B]

I never used.

[A]

You never used arc? Are you still using arc?

[D]

That's a complicated question.

[A]

Okay. I am full time still using arc. Yeah, that's my answer.

[D]

I am primarily still using arc. I have been testing all of these new browsers that are coming out because there's like all these new kazillion.

[A]

I want to know how you choose. Because, like, I just. I was on. I. This is maybe spoiling something, but I'm going to do it anyway. I was just hanging out with someone. I won't say who, who has a lot of cars. And I was like, how do you choose which car to drive? And I have the same question about you. You have multiple browsers. Why Zen versus Chrome? What makes you open a certain browser versus the other one?

[C]

It's the same reason I told you about my cars when we were hanging out.

[A]

Yeah, you just wake up. I feel like Zen today. Yeah.

[C]

No, so the way I split it up is work I use in Chrome because I need all that to work. And then when I'm doing personal things, I'll use Zen browser.

[A]

Okay. So it's kind of location based too. Sort of.

[C]

I mean, when I'm at work, I have one browser open. Like personal, I'll just have minimized. So if I ever need to search something or email someone, but then work in Chrome, I have working.

[D]

I'm sort of just keeping tabs on all of them because I'm trying to see if this AI assistant future that everyone keeps promising actually matters at all or if it's just going to be like a Metaverse kind of fad. So I got access to Comet, which is the new Perfect Perplexity browser.

[C]

How do you like?

[A]

Should we care?

[D]

It is just D. It's not. They're like exactly the same.

[C]

But is the search better? That's what I want to know.

[D]

Well, it's not really search. It's like it just talks to you. I don't know. It's it. I don't. I might be able to be convinced in the future, but right now it feels like if I'm just talking to my browser I could just. It would be better if I set.

[A]

A tab with Jet GPT open or something.

[D]

No, just like. Or Gemini rather. What Perplexity wants you to do with Comet is they want you to just like. It basically has a Google search tab in the center of the page instead of actually going to websites like they do have an assistant like DIA does on the side when you're actually on web pages. But their preferred way of interacting with the browser is just a talk to Comet and it'll tell you answers with like little mini sources. But they prefer that you like don't even go to web pages is sort of the thing.

[B]

All AI browsers just like the. Trust me, bro, just like. No, no, no, don't look, stay here.

[D]

I'm trying.

[B]

Everything I'm saying is right.

[D]

The people who are like really into it seem to be really into it. But I don't really get it yet. And maybe I will at some point and maybe I'm just don't. You know? But I don't know. But besides that, I find myself on ARK all the time because I keep trying to like. The best feature of Ark, which is so stupid that it's so useful, is just being able to hide the sidebar and then swipe your mouse over and it pops out. That's like. That's all I want. It's all I want.

[E]

Yep.

[A]

Add it to dia, please.

[D]

Also, pin tabs and stuff like that. And DIA still doesn't have that, so.

[E]

Can I address a question real quick?

[D]

Sure.

[E]

Fernando Loza says, Ellis, what is your battery percentage?

[A]

Nice.

[E]

So I took my phone off the charger at about 8:00am this morning, so that's like three and a half hours ago.

[A]

60%.

[E]

Anyone want to take a guess? 60%. Andrew?

[B]

47.

[E]

47. 42.

[D]

I was gonna say 48.

[E]

48. Adam wins. I am at 43% battery life right now.

[C]

I know, my boy.

[D]

Is that still a 12 mini or is that a 13 mini?

[E]

It is a 12 mini. And to all the people asking what phone I'm gonna get next, I'm holding out till September 2027 to hopefully go straight from 12 mini to folding iPhone. Something tells me this phone is going to explode before that.

[A]

Ooh, Anmol Bhatia says iOS 26. Thoughts so far? I've been testing it. Stay tuned.

[D]

I.

[A]

Okay, wait.

[E]

If this beta had come out in the winter, David, you would feel completely differently because you would have a hand warmer wherever you go.

[D]

That's true, dude. The amount of bugs that I have, mine's very recently. Oh, my God. Do you have the YouTube bug?

[A]

Where.

[D]

Or any video playback bug. It's in. It's in YouTube and also Instagram reels and stuff where it, like, you click on it and then the screen goes black, but the audio still plays, and you have to, like, back out and go back in multiple times. This morning, my alarm didn't. My alarm went off, made no sound.

[A]

Oh, man.

[D]

It was lighting up and doing the thing. No sound.

[A]

I have a couple specific bugs. One of them is the eight Sleep app. When the bed thing is waking me up and I open the eight Sleep app to dismiss it, that is when it crashes.

[E]

So I can.

[A]

I can open the eight Sleep app any other time and it's fine, Stop this. But I have to snooze it by hitting the sensor on the bed, and then the eight Sleep app will open without crashing. It's very strange. The other one is my keyboard no longer shows the letters above them when I'm typing, which is annoying. Oh, yeah.

[D]

Like when you type it and it goes up.

[A]

Yeah. When the little letter shows up above your finger, they don't show up.

[D]

Does that matter?

[A]

Yeah, it's pretty useful when they show up.

[C]

Marques so you're on the beta on your iPhone. Are you also on the beta on your Android phone?

[A]

On my Pixel, I have the latest Android 16 beta.

[C]

And is that the one you're dailying?

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I was gonna say a little too buggy to daily.

[C]

Having two daily drivers, both in the development beta is crazy.

[A]

I can't. Yeah, I can't daily beta stuff. And even with Mac os. Cause I use Final Cut, I don't put the latest OS on my computer until the first one update because Final Cut will absolutely have too many bugs to use until they update it.

[C]

Even when it's not on, like a development beta, Final Cut is like hit or miss.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You never know.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Someone said, how much AI do you use in your daily life? I like outside of work. Gemini for like, fun. I don't really trust it because it still kind of lies a lot. So I use like, Gemini Live. Gemini Live can be helpful and even if it's wrong, it leads me in the right direction. So, you know, it's kind of fun to like, show it things. But sometimes it's useless. That's pretty much what I do. And I don't. I don't use it that frequently either.

[A]

It's like every few days. Yeah. I use Gemini probably once or twice a day.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

I don't use it at all. No, it's not even like, necessarily. I just haven't incorporated or found one that I specifically like. So I don't pay for any of them and therefore I don't. The most AI I see during a day is scrolling past the Google AI overview so I can look at actual links and figure out the real answer.

[A]

Fair enough. Also, Big Blue asks Andrew, are you still using Google Tasks?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wait, can I see?

[C]

He's deep in.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

I have a question. Because I can now see how many tasks I've completed. You are.

[D]

I don't like that feature.

[B]

You don't?

[D]

I don't really understand. Count.

[C]

I also don't like it.

[B]

You don't like how many you've completed?

[D]

It's just always there. It's persistent forever. I've been using this app for 12.

[B]

Years, and I guess I'm always using it in the widget, so I don't always see it unless I'm in it. But does that show? So that doesn't show re. Oh, no. It does show reoccurring ones. Right. I'm almost at 500 completed tasks.

[A]

Whoa.

[D]

Someone says, who is the. Someone says, who is the tallest in the room? And I have to. Okay, look, I'm not insecure. First off.

[A]

Okay, my.

[D]

I'm not insecure, but score. Everyone in this room is taller than me. And I'm, like, slightly taller than average height. I'm five' ten and a half. And the US Average male height is five' nine.

[A]

That's a pretty tall.

[D]

These men are too tall.

[A]

We got a tall room.

[D]

It's annoying.

[A]

I've completed 15,767 tasks since I started.

[D]

I'm not insecure, allegedly.

[B]

So I don't think. I think Marquez is the tallest in the room right now. Is he taller than us?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

No. No. Yeah, I think pretty close. Because, Andrew, I think you and I are like, about the same height.

[B]

Yeah, Marquez probably has, like, an inch, but Alex probably has an inch on Marquee.

[A]

Alex is the tallest one in the studio.

[E]

I think it's really funny because as a universal reaction to meeting Marques, they're like, he's so much taller than.

[A]

That is the number one most common comment that I get in real life is, you're taller than I expected.

[B]

When we go to ces, I used to be able to find you easily because I could see over the majority of the floor and just find Marques. But at the same time, that means everybody always sees where Marques is on the floor.

[A]

This is true.

[E]

Someone told me once after meeting me and being like, wow, you're a lot taller than I thought they were. Like, you know, on the podcast, you give really short guy energy.

[A]

Interesting. And what does that mean?

[E]

Yeah. Hey, buddy, watch it.

[A]

Wow. As a true Sid, I've completed 29,989 tasks on Todoist. That's serious.

[C]

Okay, wait, I have a question about this. Now that we're down to 30, isn't.

[D]

One of your tasks drive to work every day?

[A]

No, it's a calendar event. It's a calendar event. Totally different.

[C]

Okay, my question is, you guys don't clear that out. You just leave it there.

[B]

What?

[C]

Every time I complete a task, I hate seeing it on the bottom. I always go in and, like, remove it.

[A]

I had to go into the settings to look at my account to see how many I had completed.

[C]

Oh, okay, so it keeps them forever.

[A]

Yeah, it's got this whole organization, shows you which day of the week you're most productive and, like, how many times you miss.

[C]

Oh, todoist.

[A]

Okay, it's tick, tick for me.

[B]

Oh, tick, tick.

[C]

Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I was thinking Google tasks. I was like, where is that?

[A]

Oh, no, no, no. Tasks is a sort of baseline functionality.

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Okay, somebody said thoughts on Elmo.

[A]

Did you say it happened Elmo yesterday?

[B]

Wait, what?

[D]

You can't say that. You should.

[A]

Elmo got. Elmo got hacked yesterday. Probably not in the best. He said some bad things.

[B]

That's not what I thought. I was just gonna say goat. That's.

[A]

I love Elmo. But yeah, he gave me.

[D]

Not after his Twitter guy.

[B]

Okay, I did not see that.

[A]

I was like, F1 movie was great. Okay, people.

[D]

Oh, the studio.

[A]

The studio saying F1 movie was great. Have other people seen the F1 movie?

[B]

No, no. My friend texted me on Sunday of Silverstone and said, did you see F1? I was like, yeah, that was such a sick race. One of the best ones I've seen. He's like, no, the movie. And I was like, I don't want to talk about that right now. Dang, I've not seen it yet.

[A]

I may watch it soon.

[E]

Gizmo Sauce wants to know what's everyone's favorite cheese?

[B]

I knew Ellis was going to find this question.

[E]

So for those that don't know, there's been many a cheese related argument in the studio about, like, blue cheese's efficacy, about whether stinky cheese is good, period. About whether certain cheeses belong on burgers. This is like a pretty common lunchtime argument.

[B]

I think the last one was, what is your Mount Rushmore of cheese?

[E]

Yeah, yeah, it was.

[B]

That was a long conversation.

[D]

Mount Rushmore.

[A]

That's four, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Wait, the Mount Rushmore conversation was about nuts?

[D]

It was.

[E]

What was.

[B]

No, it was about cheese.

[D]

Was it pistachios? Pine nuts up there.

[E]

Pine nuts are definitely up there.

[D]

But pine nuts on pizza, crazy take.

[A]

What? Dude? Whoa.

[D]

Hear me out.

[E]

Wait, Marques, you don't like pine nuts?

[D]

Olive oil, pine nuts, pizza.

[E]

Hey, everybody. This guy doesn't like pesto.

[D]

Yeah, pesto too. Pesto with pine nuts is like.

[A]

How about. Well, I was gonna do cheese.

[B]

Cheese. Are you doing Rushmore or just favorite cheese? I guess Rushmore's a lot.

[A]

Rushmore is a lot of thinking.

[E]

Rushmore. And you have to compare each cheese to one of the presidents.

[A]

I think I'm going just basic. Mozzarella is. It has to be on your Mount Rushmore. If it's not, I don't know what your list is.

[E]

Low moisture or high.

[A]

High moisture. Throw it on a sandwich. It's versatile. You can take it down, put it on a, you know, chicken parm or whatever. I like just mozzarella as a solid.

[D]

But parm is Parmesan.

[A]

Yeah, but you put mozzarella on it, too. It uses several types of cheese. Maybe I'm a bit weird with the mozzarella and parmesan.

[E]

No, that's what it's chicken Parmesan.

[D]

If they can do four cheese mixes.

[A]

Oh, Pepper Jack. Wow. Great point. Okay, I'm changing. I love pepper Jack. Pepper Jack and mozzarella are 1a and 1b for me.

[D]

Where you add on Swiss, that's fine. Okay.

[A]

It's not necessarily good mix.

[D]

That's a fair take. I just like that as holes.

[B]

Yeah, I like provolone. I want to just get past.

[D]

Provolone is fire.

[B]

Provolone, I think is my top. But it's really hard to not put American in. Everyone's going to hate on American. But the primo melty cheese.

[E]

Yeah, the primo melty cheese. Also the American variants like Cooper Sharp. Yeah, that's a man's cheese right there.

[D]

Some said.

[A]

I know.

[E]

Also Marquez, if you like mozzarella on your parmi, you know, pasta, baked stuff. Let me recommend fontina for you.

[A]

Oh, I've had that.

[E]

I could see you really, really enjoying a big slice of fontina.

[B]

He loves feta, and it's pretty close to.

[A]

I do not like crumbly cheeses at all.

[D]

Yeah, it's because he's a feta verse.

[B]

That's why that is.

[A]

That's tough for me because the fetiverse is pretty cool, but feta is bad. Blue cheese is trash.

[D]

What is FETA rated for you?

[A]

Brie can just. If it never existed, I'd be totally fine.

[D]

What's your FETA rating?

[A]

Feta? Yeah. You're federating. Am I federating? You're making a weird pun right now.

[D]

I don't know what's happening, but I want to know where it is on your list. Your FETA rating.

[A]

Oh, brother.

[D]

This guy stinks.

[B]

Someone said favorite podcast episode, but I don't know if they mean out of ours or like, I think out of.

[E]

Ours or I saw someone else.

[D]

I think sacred history or no, I can episode. But that's because Ellis and Adam and I got to drive to Virginia and stay in A small hotel.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, wow. Someone just said, my name is Marquez, so I should like queso. Duh.

[E]

Oh, nice.

[B]

Also, Claire just texted me and said I'd listen to this podcast more consistently if there was cheese conversations every week.

[E]

I feel like we have them fairly frequently. My favorite tune in Cheese, My favorite podcast episode was whichever one had the infamous egg argument in it.

[D]

What is a frittata?

[A]

That was.

[D]

I was. I was missing that week and I watched that episode and I was like, what's going on?

[A]

Yeah, sometimes we just go off the rez a little bit. That's fine.

[E]

Marques, have you had a frittata since engaging in that argument?

[A]

I don't think so. No.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

Someone asked if I've tried the new Telegram to do list feature, which I did not know existed. I'm very excited about. I also have to tell you, Becca Versace, friend of the show, she had a problematic fave PowerPoint presentation party at her apartment a few weeks ago, and my presentation was Telegram Problematic fave. Problematic fave because of the thing you love. Even though it's kind of problematic, it.

[A]

Gets used in problematic ways.

[E]

My new neighbor works at Signal, and when they told me, like, cocot, I pronounced it wrong. On that episode, it's. But when my new neighbor was like, oh, yeah, I work at Signal, I had to pause for a sec and I just asked them. I was like that. Is that. Is that the evil one or is that.

[D]

I mean, they do have Houthi war plans, so. Okay.

[A]

Changdu says Marques's favorite ev. I might also have to go Mount Rushmore because there's no top. Top, like, favorite I've ever driven, I think is the Lucid Air Sapphire. Just overall capability, range, performance, suspension.

[E]

It's like a dining room built into a missile.

[A]

It's incredible. It's a luxury experience on top of a missile. Yeah, it's awesome. But, you know, if you need a truck, then I'm thinking Rivian R1T. But if you need a sports car, there's not that many EV. I mean, Ioniq 5.

[E]

5 Porsche Taycan.

[A]

Taycan. Sick. I still haven't gotten to drive the Taycan Turbo gt, which Miles got to review. I'm very curious about that, but I think it's probably awesome. And then what was the other one you just mentioned? A different.

[E]

Oh, Fisker Ocean.

[A]

There's a different ev, I guess I'll. Whatever.

[D]

Which I see a lot of the store.

[A]

Yeah. Car, Sedan. Yeah, I think that's probably.

[B]

Didn't you like the EV6 a lot.

[A]

I like the E6 GT. It's not like buyable. I mean, you can. It's fine. It has trash range, but it is really fun.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Someone asked my favorite cameras or dream cameras? I personally right now think still for now that the X100VI is the best camera. Best digital camera ever made.

[A]

What? Best digital camera ever made, David. Ever. Can't help but think, David. It has a fixed lens, bit of a hot take.

[D]

I love it.

[E]

You're crazy.

[B]

Have you ever used a T3? I.

[A]

Wait, okay, David, let me dig into this a little bit objectively. Best or your favorite ever? Because there's a difference.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Because objectively there are cameras that are better.

[B]

Isn't this. David, Objectively, it's the Hasselblad.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Let's just take the Hasselblad XTD for example. Interchangeable lenses, larger sensor, more megapixels, more detail, better color, faster.

[D]

Better color.

[B]

Nude.

[D]

Sorry.

[A]

Interesting.

[D]

I don't know the X106. I've been thinking about this a lot because I did a review of the X106 after I had the X100V for four years. And the 6 is like. It has a few minor upgrades. And at first I was like, yeah, you know, but now I'm like, oh, yeah, I know, it's like. It is like so much. But the. The IBIS is really good. The 40 megapixel sensor, it's BSI now. Everything about it.

[A]

Do you ever wish it was interchangeable lenses?

[D]

No.

[A]

Do you ever wish I could take an ultra wide?

[D]

Well, I have. I have two lens adapters for it. So they Fuji makes these adapters that turns it into a 28 millimeter and a 50 millimeter.

[A]

20 and a 50.

[D]

And it's 40 megapixel sensors. You can also crop in.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. But if you had a 70 to 200 on there, bang.

[D]

Then it would be this big.

[A]

Yeah, fair. Well, you know what they say, the best camera is the one you have with you.

[D]

No, it's not.

[A]

It's the X iPhone 12 Mini.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

This is embarrassing, but over the 4th of July break, I dailied a Sony A7 for the first time after being a longtime Sony camera hater.

[A]

Yeah, they're good.

[D]

The A7i is pretty legendary.

[E]

That camera. I had a A7R Mark III and bro.

[D]

Yeah, the.

[E]

I know it's like there's faster burst modes now, but on the first day I took 15 gigabytes of stills because I just, I Was just only like 15 gigs.

[D]

Yeah, I think the best, best film camera is the Fuji TX1. Okay, we're done.

[A]

All right.

[E]

We don't have.

[B]

All right, favorite Taco Bell item?

[A]

Oh, I mean, cheesy fiesta potatoes.

[B]

Oh, good choice.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Have you done the spicy potato soft taco?

[A]

No.

[D]

Is that new next time?

[B]

No, it's been around forever. It's just like a cheap thing that nobody sees.

[D]

For me, Taco Bell is like the first four generations of Pokemon, you know, perfect. Like I don't know anything after that because that's when I stopped Taco Bell. The last time I ordered Taco Bell really was like 15 years ago. So I don't know any of the new items.

[B]

What'd you like 15 years ago?

[D]

I mean the circular thing was amazing.

[B]

The Mexican pizza or the Crunchwrap Supreme.

[D]

I think is supreme. But I also used to love the seven layer burrito because I was vegetarian for like 10 years.

[B]

Do you have one, Alice?

[E]

Of course. Of course I have one. I know there's so many good wild things on the menu, you know what I mean? But the thing that 100% of the time just like puts a smile on my face is the. Do they call it supreme or Deluxe Supreme? The Doritos Locos Taco supreme with the sour cream?

[B]

No, but do a cheesy Gordina crunch with Doritos Locos Taco.

[A]

They're speaking another language.

[E]

Wait, you can do that? You can make the inside of the Gordon Doritos shell. Then that, then that is my favorite.

[B]

I can't pick. I love all my children the same.

[A]

Peter's.

[B]

But actually it's okay.

[A]

I'm doing a couple rapid fire ones. Marques, when has the Samsung unpacked? Review upload already happened. Check the channel. Adam, I love your tattoos. Can you show them?

[C]

I mean, I guess this is going to be very weird for audio listeners.

[E]

I want to tell a story about Adam's tattoos.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Because. So when I moved to New York to take this job, Adam and I were neighbors. I moved into the same neighborhood in Brooklyn as Adam. And so for the first year of me working here, Adam and I would carpool to work every single day. It was super duper fun. We hung out so much. But it was the kind of thing where Adam and I, I had just met Adam and now we're carpooling every single day. Like we had no prior relationship or friendship. And so you end those rides. So I see, I'm like, I'm sitting shotgun with this, like, you know, Dude Adam had sort of like really short buzz cutty sort of hair at the time. He's got tattoos all over his arm. You know, grew up in New York. I'm like, damn, this dude's hard. Like, this dude is like a real. A real, A real fucking guy next to me. And then finally I'm like, yo, like, what's that tattoo? Like? Asking about his sleeve and he's like, oh, the whole arm is Harry Potter tattoos. I was like, oh, this guy's a big softie.

[A]

Amazing.

[C]

Yeah, it's all. It's a Harry Potter sleeve.

[D]

Yeah, but what if he was really into Voldemort? Then he wouldn't be a softy.

[B]

Yeah. What if he had the dark mark?

[C]

Yeah, I debated it. I debated the dark mark, but I did not get it.

[D]

Yeah, I have a dark mark on my lower back.

[A]

And we'll move on to the next.

[D]

Just a natural thing.

[E]

No one ever asked about my tattoo.

[D]

You have one?

[A]

Yeah. Do you want them to?

[E]

I mean, I guess I don't really care. I'm surprised you didn't know I had a tattoo.

[A]

Ellis, tell us about your tattoo. Marques in the chat says Ellis, that'll be.

[E]

That'll be at episode 600.

[A]

Oh, all right. Marques, that'll be episode 600.

[B]

Yeah, I looked at that. I would just be turning 40 for episode 600, probably. I know.

[A]

MissQueen says, Will there be a segment where they answer questions from the audience?

[E]

There's been a few audio questions. Can I rapid fire those real quick? Sure. All right, what's the best way to get into audio? Buy a cable, an SM7B and a Focusrite 2i2 and record literally everything and then just make it better every time. Why did we ditch the Tascam Model 12? Because it had this weird bug where if you accidentally overwrote an existing recording on there, the clock would get weird and you couldn't sync anything and it made Adam's life really difficult. Also, now we have the sonic view 16. This absolute beast of a board, I think.

[A]

Barely see you back there behind that thing.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[E]

No, but I think that's. I think that was where actually all the audio questions.

[D]

So, yeah, anyway, someone did say, what.

[B]

Degree do you have? Because you were saying, I have a.

[E]

Degree that sounds made up from a school that doesn't exist anymore. I have a Bachelor of science in music comma, business comma entrepreneurship and technology.

[D]

Business is not science, Alice.

[E]

I know. Neither is entrepreneurship or technology. Technology.

[D]

Technology is very science.

[E]

Yeah, well, the joke is that every year they would change whether there was that first comma there. So some years it was music business, and the other years it was music comma, business. But why would you need comma, business when the next word is entrepreneurship? Doesn't make any sense to me. Anyway, the school is called the University of the Arts, and it spectacularly exploded last year. Not with, like, a literal explosion.

[A]

Oh, geez. I thought that was bad.

[E]

No, no, no. It was pretty amazing, though. It was like the president or CEO, whoever, the highest person at the school, just emailed everyone and was essentially like, Friday, we're done. Teachers, you're fired. Students, transfer.

[A]

Peace. Dang.

[D]

That's what I would do.

[B]

Mic drop.

[E]

Mic drop.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

So that's my life.

[D]

Pretty good.

[A]

Antaseb says any chance of getting a Xiaomi SU7 for review? I do want to. I've been working on that. Also, I saw people asking about the model Y. I've also been working on that. So both of those are on the list. We want to check those out. Someone asks, how has Ultimate Frisbee been this year? Can we get an update? And also, what is the next Google product that you think will get killed? So Ultimate's been going well. I will be telling people more about ultimate this year in an upcoming video because there's gonna be a lot more of it this summer. The next product that Google will kill.

[D]

Don't do it.

[A]

Is. I feel bad speaking this into existence, but it's probably Google Chat.

[B]

Is that even.

[D]

That's called Heavy?

[A]

Sorry, no. Talk is what it's called right now, and it's called Google Chat. No, Google Talk still exists.

[D]

No, it doesn't.

[A]

It's inside of Gmail.

[D]

It's chat.

[A]

Is it called chat now?

[D]

I believe so.

[A]

So formerly Talk.

[D]

They use it for enterprise, so I don't think it'll ever go away.

[A]

Then it's probably tasks or keep.

[D]

I'm down with tasks going away. Keep.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Whoever said I give off 57 energy? Keep that to yourself, man.

[B]

Oh, no, they meant in centimeters.

[E]

Oh, wait, that's even shorter.

[A]

Someone said, hangouts. Google keep Google Drive.

[B]

Yeah. Let's see what you guys think Google's killing next. Easy Pixel Tablet, they say somebody's been asking us a hundred times. Favorite Pringle flavor.

[D]

Ooh.

[E]

So I just tried the Miller Lite Beer Brat ones.

[D]

I'm so excited for that. They have that.

[E]

Yeah, they're fine. They're, like, not great if there's a thing with Pringles. Right. For years. For years I sat there with My hand halfway down a tube, just praying that one day they would release a spicy Pringle. Because I love hot chip, and for years, there were no spicy Pringles, and then they did. Now you can get spicy Pringles, and it turns out they're not that good, actually. That's like a chip form factor that never needed to be spicy. So I'm gonna have to go with. Oh, wait. This is actually insane. Are you ready? Day to day out on the town. Sour cream and onion.

[B]

Same okay.

[E]

With my coffee in the morning.

[D]

You eat chips in the morning?

[E]

Only.

[B]

Only out of a can.

[E]

I think a cup of black coffee and a mini can of cheddar cheese Pringles.

[D]

Oh, no.

[E]

Is like such an awesome combination.

[B]

Cheddar sour cream or just.

[E]

No, no, the orange ones.

[D]

Like, this is how I know you lived in Philadelphia.

[E]

I think you're thinking of ruffles. Those are the cheddar sour cream. No, in Philadelphia, you can get. It's the chip form. Chip cast now. But in Philadelphia, you can get hers. Kettle cooked chips. That is cheddar and horseradish.

[B]

Oh, that sounds so good.

[E]

They're so horseradishy. Like, your nose will run by the time you're done with the bag. It's amazing.

[B]

All right, team pizza.

[D]

I don't eat cheddar team pizza because.

[E]

They put a little dried basil in it. There's, like, just a hint of herbaceousness that it's so.

[B]

Gets the Italian in me.

[E]

It's so good.

[A]

Can I pick Zuri up?

[E]

No. It's Zuri time. So those of us that were. Those of you that were in the chat before the episode may have seen my dog. My dog foreshadow. And there is a dog right here. Although I have no idea how we'll get her elevated enough.

[B]

You should take the headphones off if you're gonna pick her up.

[C]

Underneath her arms, her front paws.

[E]

We're orchestrating. I wonder if you could just put her on the chair.

[A]

You want to sit on the chair?

[B]

Every time we put a dog in a spinny chair, it never goes.

[D]

Someone asked if I was going to start a camera channel, and I need to know if I should or if I should just not.

[B]

All right, chat. This is. Wait, we haven't said chat yet.

[D]

You can chat.

[B]

Chat.

[D]

Do I start a separate camera channel or do I put it all on my.

[B]

Oh, oh, that's the question.

[D]

That's the question.

[B]

I think you keep it all on the same.

[D]

You think?

[B]

So we'll see what chat and then you can decide if you trust me or 5000 random people on the Internet. More.

[D]

Fair enough.

[B]

Sounds like that.

[A]

I tried to pick her up and then she just turned into a mat. Oh, my God.

[E]

Favorite technology Connections. Video. I feel like this is targeted towards me. Exactly.

[D]

I've watched them all, too.

[E]

My favorite Technologies connection. Well, I think this. This, the RCA CED series is really, really good. But the one that, like, really changed my life the first time I saw it is the one called There's Magic Inside youe Voice. Vcr. I watched that and then immediately scoured the curbs of Philadelphia until I found a vcr.

[D]

Wait, that was the first time you bought a vcr?

[E]

Yeah. I mean, I was doing a lot of cassette stuff at the time. Like, I was taking apart a lot of cassette decks and repairing them and, like, fixing the belts and stuff. And so I thought I understood how a VCR worked. I gotta mess around with this. And then I realized VCRs are way too complicated for your boy to repair meaningfully. I've done, like, small repairs.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, next question.

[E]

Ellis, cage match.

[B]

I've seen that a bunch.

[E]

That's not even a question.

[B]

Mine's more of, like, hurting pretty bad lately, I think.

[E]

You really. Okay, pro.

[D]

I don't know.

[E]

And you guys weigh in on this because pros versus cons, I feel like I might have a little bit of reach on you.

[B]

Right.

[E]

And your knees are not very good.

[A]

What martial art are you trying to do? Like, this is, like.

[E]

This is Street Fight Mixed.

[B]

It's a cage match. Whatever's being.

[E]

I think. Yeah, I think you're way stronger than me. I also think you could take a decent amount more of a beating than I could.

[B]

I have a decent pain tolerance because I hurt myself way too many times.

[D]

Exactly.

[E]

I think I would get hit in the face once and rethink everything.

[B]

All right, next studio video.

[E]

Wait, I want to talk about fighting more.

[D]

Someone wants to know everyone's astrological signs.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Cancer.

[C]

Why?

[A]

I know mine.

[E]

I'm a pixel.

[B]

I know it. That's all I know.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a Sagittarius.

[B]

That's it. Cancer.

[D]

Gatorade.

[B]

That'd be a sick sign. What flavor?

[A]

Wait, that would be awesome if it was just like, Pisces. Sagittari. Gatorade. That's like one of the cool.

[B]

What flavor?

[A]

Gatorade?

[D]

Mountain Dew.

[A]

What's your birthday, David?

[B]

They just.

[D]

April 25th.

[A]

Astrological.

[D]

I could just tell you.

[B]

Oh, you know, you're a Taurus.

[D]

The Taurus?

[A]

Yeah. I thought you were gonna say Gemini, which would be crazy.

[D]

That would be crazy.

[B]

Why would that be crazy?

[A]

Because we were just talking about Gemini before.

[D]

Is anyone in here at Gemini?

[E]

No.

[D]

Good.

[A]

No Geminis.

[E]

I do. I love.

[D]

That's. That's like a really Gemini thing of you to say.

[A]

Ellis. Someone says, do you miss anything about your model S?

[B]

Plaid could have Grok right now.

[A]

Yeah, that's a great question.

[D]

Oh, someone says they're Gatorade too. The only thing Gatorade buds that I.

[A]

Really miss is the ability to like truly go, like drive itself in traffic. Like if it was bumper to bumper traffic and I just wanted to kind of sit back and stretch my legs, it would drive itself. That's basically it. Yeah. Front trunk is the same. Yeah, it's pretty close. That's about it.

[B]

Someone said. What's everyone's video game platform preference?

[A]

PS5.

[D]

I'm sacrilegious. I play. I basically only play Dota 2 and I play it on my MacBook Pro.

[B]

Oh, my goodness.

[D]

I get 120 FPS.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Even I know that's crazy.

[E]

No, come on, what's wrong with it?

[D]

I mean, it has random horrible bugs, but besides that, I think it's fine. I also really like the. I've been using a lot of emulator devices recently. They're really fun. Just like little. I have a game boy advance SP1 and I've been playing Pokemon Pinball, Ruby Sapphire, which I had when I was a kid. And it's.

[A]

I just keep pausing and there's like such unhinged questions.

[D]

Like what?

[A]

Someone says, do you have a mortgage? Do you. Do any of you speak a second language?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you speak a second language?

[E]

Ellis Personality does not. Is this about my height again? Is it?

[A]

You can't keep baiting them. What do you do? What do you speak?

[D]

Yeah, Deutsch.

[A]

Deutsch.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I can kind of understand some Spanish, but I don't really speak it fluently.

[D]

Deutsch is German.

[A]

No, I'm just saying. That's my answer.

[D]

Oh, got it.

[A]

Yeah. What else did they say?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, am I gonna get a dog? I. I don't think I'm going to get a dog as long as I have access to dogs.

[D]

That's how I feel about cats. You know, I had cats and then they peed on my bed six times. And then I. Well, I was. Okay, to be clear, I was fostering them. I didn't return them. They got adopted. But now I'm like, you know, I could go with not Pete on bed. That'd be good. I do love cats. They're the best. I definitely have the brain worm that the cat gives you.

[A]

Someone said, marquez, when you reviewed your car, you said it was a 9 out of 10 of everything. But what is the 9 out of 10 of everything in EVS, I think. And they said, not a Tesla, but the answer is a Lucid Air Sapphire. It's. It's actually a 10 out of 10 acceleration, but it's 9 out of 10.

[C]

Not the Hummer EV.

[A]

How dare you. The Hummer EV is something special. You know what's crazy? I can say this. Even though the video's not out yet, I'm currently testing the Cadillac Escalade IQ right now.

[C]

I can't beep that. So it's live now?

[A]

Yeah, it's out there. And the video is. You know, the autofocus video is coming up. But this thing is. I think the title has to be like, this is a living room on wheels. Because it's basically. This is a 200 kilowatt hour battery. It's £9,000. It's longer than an F150. It has three rows. It has all the storage, all of the materials, and it. I plugged it in, actually. When we first got it, it had 92% battery left and it was reading 450 miles of range. That's a lot. That's crazy. I haven't seen 450 miles of range in years. I don't think any other than the lucids. I don't think I've seen 400 plus in real world range. So shout out to the 200 kilowatt hour battery underneath that living room on wheels. That thing is crazy.

[D]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Can I. I just want to say something about that. You know what I mean? Because frankly, Cadillac, shame on you. Just make a smaller, less heavy car, please.

[A]

Well, they do. They make the Optic, which is the smallest one, and they make the Lyriq. And I was just thinking as I passed by a Lyriq this morning, this is the Mega Lyric. This is the mega Lyric.

[E]

Why did it like.

[A]

It's huge.

[E]

Why can't just make a blimp? If you want to make something that big, make it really slow and up in the air where it can't hurt anybody.

[A]

Yeah, it is massive.

[E]

Also, to everyone commenting about the audio thing, I think our Internet is having a little bit of a day today.

[B]

All right, well, we'll probably go 10, 15 more minutes.

[A]

Should we go? How should we end this? Just rapid fire answering questions.

[E]

Yes, I'M trying to start some sort of argument. Man, we had such a good argument during the test stream with Cheese.

[D]

Someone. Here's one said something that I felt really stupid about. That trivia question about the things that IO could mean. There's literally a character in Dota 2 called IO. Wow.

[E]

I can't believe I didn't find that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Dang.

[D]

I mean, I never play him, so. Oh, yeah, He's a floating orb. That's it.

[E]

He's the O.

[B]

Is IO Op is IO IO has.

[D]

Been op in previous metas.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Not currently op.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Wait, I don't think we ever. Andrew, what's your gaming platform of choice? Did you ever answer that?

[B]

Probably computer. For a very long time it was Xbox.

[D]

What's a computer?

[A]

Sorry, I had to.

[D]

It's just an iPad.

[A]

Reflex. When people say computer, I just like.

[D]

Reflexively someone says, do I do photo wedding engagement photos? Yeah, hit me up. I have an email address.

[A]

Maria Smith Marquez. How much longer do you see yourself playing ultimate for? I don't know. Until I can't. Until I literally can't.

[B]

And then I get to steal him for disc golf finally.

[A]

Then I just switch full time to golf golf. I think.

[B]

No, I think, what if it was a little like both?

[A]

The problem is I'm already like, decent at golf, so it would be like a hard learning curve to get good. To get that good at disc golf. I could be swayed. I could try.

[B]

Okay, I'll try.

[A]

But you know, golf, golf.

[D]

Someone says, I'm considering hottest temperature.

[C]

I'm convinced that Marquez is just going to retire and become a coach.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[E]

That's my lore for you.

[A]

I've thought about that. I. I have the. It's. I go on and off with, like, do I have the brain to be a coach? I was a captain of my college team. That kind of felt like coaching because there's a lot of beginners on the team. I've done some clinics where, like, I go back to my old high school and like, talk to the kids and the kids who are already pretty good and sort of give them fundamental advice on playing better. But coaching a team is like X's and O's on the field against an opponent. And I'm not as, like, fully in tune with like, I don't do scouting that much. I'm very much an individual scout on, like, here's how to guard this one player and how I'll maximize it. But the whole team thing is I don't have that vision, visionary ability yet.

[E]

Marques I think you're gonna get into tennis after Ultimate.

[A]

I have tried tennis once before.

[E]

I think I was really bad at it. I know, I know, but just seeing how, how good your specific brain is for ping pong. I think you're gonna watch one tennis tournament and see what those guys are doing and be like, oh, I'm kind of interested in.

[A]

That's hard on the knees, though, isn't it?

[E]

It is, but also, like, people regularly play tennis into their 60s. Like, it's not, it's not, it's harder on your elbow. But if you do, you know, you're. You're in shape, you know what to do.

[D]

You got it.

[A]

I'm going to want to use my cardio in some way because golf does not use my cardio.

[E]

Look, my mother still up there in age, still playing four days a week of tennis.

[A]

Tennis? What, and is like, pickleball on her radar or is she just like, anti.

[E]

I'm not going to speak for my mom. Yeah, but I don't think she would ever get even close to a pickleball.

[A]

That's what I hear from tennis players. Yeah. Yeah.

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[D]

Someone said, do you guys have A hot tech take for the year so far?

[E]

Yeah, but I don't know for the.

[A]

Year like hot tech take for the year.

[D]

I assume it would be like is.

[A]

It if the nothing phone. If the nothing phone 3 was 499 it would be. People wouldn't be mad universally accepted over this design.

[B]

Coldest take possibly.

[A]

No, I think the design is like easy to make fun of because it's expensive. But I think if it was 4.99, if it was a good phone for money, people would ignore the design.

[B]

I don't think that many people are making fun of the. I think there's people making fun of the design a little bit, but most people are on the true.

[A]

MAD is not a hot enough take.

[D]

Then My hottest tech take is that Apple is like in it's not good era right now. That's it's like on its way out.

[A]

What kind of not good?

[D]

I like. It feels sort of like a dip for the company where none of their design design decisions seem to me making a lot of sense. Like even with Liquid Glass they've already scaled it back to the point where it's so different and it feels like there's not cohesive leadership at the design level and say they feel like they're in a dip right now.

[B]

Lost their plot aura a little bit.

[D]

Yeah. I mean it just feels like they got, they got forced to get sidetracked with all the AI stuff because of their stock price and then they eventually they realized they didn't necessarily like really have to do that. So this year they went back to like just machine learning stuff which is good but with the design stuff without, without Jony Ivor like you know, and I'm glad we got the thick MacBooks again. So huge. That's good. But yeah, I don't know, it just sort of feels like they're just making a lot of really bad product decisions right now and it feels like they're in their dip era.

[B]

Dip error. I agree with. I don't think they're not like on the way out.

[D]

No, they're not on the way.

[B]

They're definitely just having a. I shouldn't say tough two years for sure. And it's so much weirder because actually.

[E]

Vision Pro, I have a techtic but it's pretty hot. So maybe let's do it.

[D]

Let's do it.

[E]

IOS 26 beta, I think. I think it's sort of a two part take. The first part is that we've sort of gone over this crest in tech right now where it Feels like getting VC funding as a tech company is more important than getting customer sales.

[A]

In a lot of cases it is. Yeah.

[E]

And for that reason, more and more companies are quote unquote pivoting to AI. And my actual hot take is that the quickest way a tech company can ruin their brand image, possibly forever, is by publicly pivoting to AI. And I get that. In our circle it's like, oh, notion has an AI now. Oh, this has an AI now. Oh, the Domino's app, pizza AI, I don't think that exists. But among, among my non tech friends, I now know five or six people who as soon as an app they like is like, check out our new Chatbot, check out our new AI. Instant delete, cancel subscription, get it out. Because none of these products work. I mean, look, like I use Claude. Like Claude sort of works, but I would still give it only like a 30% success rate, you know, every time it's queried for giving me something that's like useful. So yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say it. If you're thinking about pivoting your company to AI, you will probably make money in the long run, but everyone will hate you.

[B]

Domino's does use it. Does use it.

[D]

All right.

[E]

I am now officially a Papa John. No pizza. No, I live in York.

[D]

You guys know about Papa Murphy's?

[E]

What is Papa Murphy's?

[D]

It's called take and bake pizza. This is a NorCal thing.

[E]

Oh, this is the one where like you.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. So basically you go in, they make the pizza for you, but they don't cook it. And then you bring it home and you cook it yourself.

[E]

That's kind of cute. Except. Except, except you, you need a, you need a real solid oven and it's.

[D]

Still not good pizza. To be clear, it's not that good, but it is better than like hot pizza.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

It's already not good pizza.

[D]

Better than Papa John's. It's way better pizza than like Papa John's.

[E]

It is. It is kind of shocking how much better a pizza can come out of your oven when you just put a rock in there with it. It is like fascinating. Like if you ever make like a DiGiorno's rising crust frozen pizza, but put a pizza stone in your oven. Or better yet, Andrew, do you have a three rack oven?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

You ever use two pizza stones, one on top, one on bottom?

[A]

Yeah. Rex on Rex.

[B]

I also have a pizza of.

[E]

Oh, I'm Andrew. I have a backyard with a pizza oven in it.

[D]

Yeah, I Live in a cellar.

[C]

I think my tech take, so. Oh, wait, David, you literally live in a cellar.

[D]

I live in a cellar. It's better than the rattlesnake den.

[E]

But Dave, when you say I live in a cellar, I'm just picturing you behind, like a cage with a sleeping guard and keys dangling out of his pocket, and you're desperately trying to convince a dog to go like.

[B]

Or he has, like, a stick trying to, like, get the keys off his sleeping belt.

[D]

Did I stutter?

[A]

Okay, okay. So.

[C]

So tech take. I think Android is gonna be the cool one again. That's something I've been working on all year.

[A]

Again.

[C]

Yeah. Well, I guess for the first time, that's fair.

[D]

It was cool to me. It was cool to me for a while.

[C]

I think Android was cool for a while. And then the whole blue bubble thing made imessage just like the far and away leader in Apple. The far and away leader for the.

[A]

U.S. yeah, in the U.S. yeah.

[C]

No, in the U.S. well, even. Yeah, I'll stick it just to the.

[D]

U.S. i did have a normie friend tell me yesterday because she was thinking about switching to the Fairphone 6, which was like, crazy.

[C]

That's not a normie friendly.

[D]

That doesn't exist. She heard about fairphone because she wanted to be more fair to the world, I guess, or something. And I was like, oh, there's a new one coming out. I told her about it and I was like, but, you know, you. You have to get off imessage. And she's like, yeah, I mean, I kind of think that green bubbles are, like, kind of like counterculture rebellious now.

[C]

And I was like, oh, that's what I mean. I think the pendulum swing is coming back.

[D]

For the green bubbles, you need the pendulum swing.

[E]

Ellis reacted, thumbs down, texting people that.

[A]

Okay, we got a couple bangers in a row. One of them was DN says, what do you think about the roadster? Are you still getting one for free? No one has any idea. There was a random Elon tweet recently that was just saw the coolest tech demo in the design studio and people tagged me about it, like, what do you think, Marques? And I was like, are we really gonna react to a tweet about a teaser about a demo about a product that's still not out? I got nothing to say. The other one was, what's your Wawa order? Oh, that's a comment. That's not a slack message. That's a real comment. So on underscore, yo, are we ordering Wawa no, this is a real comment.

[B]

I think they were.

[E]

Wawa's already ordered.

[A]

Wawa's already ordered. But also, people in the chat want to know what your Wawa order is.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

So did you order Wawa today?

[D]

I didn't, but I.

[A]

You should.

[E]

You should ask someone if you can still order Wawa. Don't go hungry.

[C]

That was this morning.

[D]

I am hungry.

[B]

They did it at like 11.

[A]

We have a.

[B]

Closed an hour ago.

[A]

Yeah, we have a Wawa orders Slack channel.

[D]

Okay. My order is I like the honey smoked turkey shorty, Nice. With mustard and everything else.

[A]

That's a sandwich, by the way, just for those.

[D]

Oh, the hoagies. Yeah. And shorty means small. Small, small, small sandwich. I get everything on it, though.

[B]

Like every ingredient right now. Italian sub with provolone, lettuce, hot peppers, old bay oil, vinegar, extra of that. And then right now there's these, like, crispy pickle chips that you can put on it. Fantastic.

[D]

That's nice.

[B]

Nice. They never put enough oil and vinegar on, though, ever. I want the bun to be soaking in oil and vinegar.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I want to give you a wall.

[C]

That sounds disgusting.

[E]

Just the.

[C]

The lukewarm, soggy panini from Wawa, what.

[A]

I get.

[E]

I change it up a lot when I'm getting a hoagie, but when it's raining outside, what I do is I get the ham and cheese panini with cheddar and pickles. So it's kind of like a grilled cheese, maybe a little garlic aioli on that. And then I get a side of tomato bisque and I hit it with the bread.

[A]

And the tomato bisque is good.

[E]

So good. I'm sorry, Marques. I just. I won't dive into it, but ever since you brought up that roadster thing, it's like the Tesla Expanded Universe has strayed so far from an affordable sports car. They put out an AI girlfriend yesterday. It's like.

[B]

It's definitely not an affordable sports car.

[E]

Well, wasn't the point originally, though, supposed to be, like, for the roadster Context. Yeah.

[A]

Well, yeah, context is for the performance that they promised. It is relatively affordable because they're matching a $2 million car with a $200,000 car. Right. But it's not out, so.

[E]

No, and it's never going to come out because they're not working on it because they're too busy doing whatever it is they put out yesterday.

[A]

Yeah, they're working on.

[D]

Someone said favorite app of 2025.

[A]

So had to come out, or I.

[D]

Think it had to have Come out this year.

[E]

Oh, I really like onion rings, but mozzarella sticks, I guess. Climbing up the ranks.

[D]

What are you using anything more this year than you used before?

[A]

That's a good question.

[D]

I would say Pokemon Trading Card Game Pocket. I'm still playing. I don't play games like almost ever and. But Balatro and Pokemon Trading Card Game Pocket now are the first two games I've like ever had on my phone. And I'm very addicted to both of them and I don't like that.

[A]

Coinbase has sent me notifications every day for like the last five days because bitcoin's hitting a new high every five days. So there's that. I have.

[D]

This is not financial advice.

[A]

A teaser. Somebody asked about the Tesla Robo taxi thing and I have the Tesla robo taxi app here on my phone. So there's a little teaser.

[C]

Why would you have that?

[A]

Marquez? Yeah, you know, he's just. Just testing, just testing it out. Here's a new area that they're doing service in.

[D]

Did they do that on purpose?

[A]

Yes, of course they did.

[D]

I hate everything.

[A]

But also, yeah, no, I don't have any like app of the year for me so far. I don't think actually now I won't shut that out.

[B]

That's. I don't even know what he's talking about. I don't think I use any apps that are new this year. I think you disk is like my most fun app that I just for disco.

[E]

I'm really digging the Brooklyn Public Library app.

[D]

Oh yeah, Public.

[E]

What do you do in that? Yeah, it has two main like so you can browse the catalog, which is really useful.

[A]

That's sick.

[E]

You can place holds on audiobooks, ebooks or physical books and then you can also read the ebooks in the app in a built in reader. And look, I'm not going to be like this is a phenomenal app. But I will say for an app that is run by a city, it is so good. Never crashes.

[A]

The bar is low.

[E]

But that is pretty responsive. UI every everything works easy sign in, feels secure. I would assume it's my library card. So it's like. Yeah, I shouldn't say that.

[A]

Probably is. Hopefully it's your library card.

[E]

Yeah. But now everyone is going to try to hack into my Brooklyn Public Library account.

[A]

I don't think my public library has an app. So that's pretty cool.

[D]

Really?

[B]

I think you'd be surprised.

[E]

Marquez, do you have a library card?

[A]

I'll check. Not anymore. I have one from my hometown, but I haven't. Yeah, it's been a while.

[E]

Everyone take out your library cards. Do it.

[D]

I have the where the Wild Things Are one.

[C]

Oh yeah, that's a good one. That's my favorite thing about the Brooklyn Public Library app is my card is in it. I don't need to carry it around physically.

[E]

You're not a card carrying.

[A]

Did you know Costco does the same thing?

[C]

Oh yeah, I have it on Costco, but I change phones too many times, so I got locked out.

[A]

Yeah, I went to Costco the other day and I realized walking in that I forgot my card and they were like, you can just log in on the app. And I was like, duh.

[B]

Obviously we're still at 5k viewers by the way. That's pretty. Usually they like peak up and taper off, but everyone's staying strong. I think we have like, it's kind.

[A]

Of a random midday on a Tuesday, you know, just hanging out.

[C]

Should we do like have one app? Just. It's not new, but it's one that I found recently and has been like a lifesaver. And it's just local send to. It's basically airdrop between like any device and it's been super local send. Local send.

[D]

That's amazing.

[E]

I will try jalapeno poppers because it's like chili relleno, but you can eat.

[D]

A lot of them, so chili ranio is amazing.

[E]

Yeah, that's why jalapeno poppers rule.

[D]

They do rule, except for when they like burn your mouth and it's like.

[E]

Squirt all over your shirt.

[D]

That's true. That happens every time.

[A]

That sounds terrible.

[E]

That's the worst.

[D]

I'm hungry.

[B]

But do you want to do like two more questions?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay. I probably should have had a question ready.

[A]

Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. Ever heard of Yandex, guys? It's like the Google of Central Asia. Yes. Not only have I, but I took a ride in a Yandex self driving car at CES years ago. Check that one out. Little throwback video for you.

[B]

I remember that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Someone asked what the favorite, our favorite spongebob memes are.

[E]

Oh, brother, that one's excellent.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What, what's the one where he's like, like camera blurred like this? Is that Mr. Krabs? The reason I love that is because one time I was doing fall guys stream and Ellis was watching and I like knocked my webcam and it paused to like me being like that. And Alice like screenshotted it and sent it to me as the meme.

[D]

There's five good ones. So many good ones.

[E]

Can I tell the story of when you were streaming Valorant? I think, and you didn't know my Twitch account, and so I just started commenting begging you to come visit a fan in Utah. My favorite spongebob meme is the sound. The stinky sound. So much so that when someone sends me a text I don't like or like, they bail on plans or something like that. I'll just send a YouTube link to like the.

[C]

I think mine is Mr. Krabs.

[E]

I have an idea.

[D]

Pretty good.

[A]

Someone said. Marques, did you switch to your iPhone again? I've literally used two phones since the beginning of time. I have an iPhone in one pocket and an Android phone in the other pocket.

[C]

There are cave beings about it.

[E]

It's crazy how when the big bang happened, the first atoms to be pulled together into solid matter formed a Samsung and an iPhone.

[B]

And they were in Marques's pockets.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Would you have.

[D]

Wait, which? Nevermind.

[A]

Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra iPhone 16 Pro.

[D]

Got it right.

[B]

You could look it out though.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Someone was gonna ask, did we just break embargo?

[E]

Dude, if. If the. If the hypothetical folding iPhone had a built in an A pen, brother. Apple pen, I would be so is that what the S stands for? Oh my God.

[D]

Wait, what?

[E]

I just assumed it was the same as Galaxy S. Like it was super.

[D]

The S pen?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Samsung Pen.

[E]

Is it Samsung Pen or Super Pro?

[D]

I think it's just Galaxy S pen. But the S pen.

[A]

I'm asking ChatGPT.

[E]

The S does not stand for Samsung and Galaxy S, though.

[C]

I know the S stands for Wheezy F, baby.

[D]

Supa.

[A]

ChatGPT says the s doesn't have an official meaning.

[E]

Well, that's literally wrong.

[A]

It's widely believed to stand for Samsung, as in Samsung.

[E]

That's double wrong. It's wrong both times. It does stand for something and it stands for super.

[D]

It does stand for super.

[A]

Well, ChatGPT just didn't.

[E]

That's what. Okay, this is what I'm saying. They're wrong almost every time. And I think we don't realize it because we all make the mistake of assuming that they're correct. But it's like it was wrong when I. When I asked it about what the state abbreviation for Iowa was. Where'd you find it was wrong? Did we?

[D]

Smash Bros. Man.

[A]

I'm on the Wikipedia for S pen and I command F Super. And it's not there.

[E]

We had a whole Waveform episode about this, remember? Because the A stands for awesome.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But in Galaxy S, that might stand for one thing, but in S pen, it doesn't appear to stand for anything.

[B]

Oh, you're just looking for what S pen stands for.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I asked.

[C]

Chat. What does it say?

[E]

It's phone arena. Did you know that? Did you? Do you know what the S in Galaxy's S line stands for? The answer is super cheesy. It stands for super smart.

[B]

I think you guys are talking about two different things, though.

[A]

That's Galaxy S. That's Galaxy S. You're saying for S pen.

[B]

S pen.

[E]

No. So that was my original question. Is the S pen super smart like in Galaxy S, or is it short.

[A]

For Samsung or nothing?

[B]

I don't think anyone knows.

[E]

No, Samsung knows. Okay.

[B]

Maybe we can talk to Samsung. I don't know about that.

[A]

Wikipedia doesn't chatgpt.

[D]

Someone said favorite TV show. I just want to shout out Halt and Catch Fire. Because everyone that watches Waveform would really love this show because it's about the 80s computer revolution and it's really good. It's a dramatization. It's so good.

[E]

Sorry. Hopping back in here because now I'm mad. I found. I found the 2011 PR blast from Samsung that has the acronyms for all their letters. It's S Super smart. R. This is for Galaxy, S Royal. Refined, W is for wonder, M is for magical, and Y is for young.

[C]

I think what they're saying, though, is that these are for the devices. S pen might be something else. Even though the phone itself, the S might stand for that.

[A]

Like the Galaxy Tab has an S pen. And what does the S stand for? That's my question. I don't think there's an answer.

[E]

Which is it? Not the Galaxy S Tab. It's just. There's no letter on the Galaxy Tab.

[A]

It's the Galaxy Samsung Galaxy Tab super smart.

[D]

They do have a Galaxy Tab S.

[A]

So the Galaxy Tab Ultra is the one with the S pen.

[D]

It's the Galaxy Tab WH1000X.

[A]

These are all really bad product names.

[B]

All right, do you want to do. Last question?

[A]

Last question. What should we. We should pick a good one.

[D]

We should pick a.

[B]

You guys should all silence and pick the best question.

[A]

Keyboard switches.

[B]

That's not it.

[D]

Ionic6n while we wait, what is your guys's best question?

[C]

I was gonna say the TV show I wanna shout out while they pick out a question is Cowboy Bebop. I Don't know why it took me so long to watch that. Oh, my God, it's so good.

[E]

Someone said the S stands for stylus.

[A]

Might as well at this point. It might as well. Favorite phone color. I have a matte black everything shirt on.

[D]

The S stands for sexy.

[E]

The S stands for shut up, ass.

[A]

That's actually really good.

[D]

That's good.

[A]

Favorite country. Trying to get me canceled. Earth Coffee, question mark. People are just typing coffee.

[E]

We've done a lot of James Hoffman. I think we should finally address this. Someone asked something that we've been joking about not answering. So for the longest time, we recorded this show on a device called a Rodecaster, which you can plug four microphones in. And there were five people in this room. And so Adam and I just shared the mic because we don't have that much to say, you know, not anymore.

[C]

Now we have so much to say.

[E]

Yeah, right. So then we upgraded to The Tascam Model 12, which did have an extra input for another mic, but we just thought this was so funny. And so we're never gonna change it.

[A]

It's just the way I'm talking bonked.

[B]

Heads, like, five minutes ago, like, pretty hard.

[E]

No, no, no. That was the $3,000 headphones I'm wearing. Don't worry. Not my $5 skull.

[D]

But yeah.

[E]

So it's just hilarious. I think it's part of the fun. Adam and I get to have our faces kind of awkwardly close to each other for colleagues, but that's part of the fun of making a show.

[A]

I think it's good. I think it's a good. I think it's a great place to end. It kind of reminds me of when I had the Cheerios in the background of MKBHD videos for years. People would ask, why are there Cheerios behind you? Why are there Cheerios behind you? And this. The. The real answer is I actually started making videos in my college dorm in 2013. 12 or 13. And behind me in the room, there was a microwave. And I was shooting on my Canon T2i, and the 1 over 60 shutter speed just looked really weird with the display with, like, strobe behind me. And anytime I made a video with the microwave behind me, which it would be in every video, people would comment like, yeah, look at the microwave. It's strobing. So I just wanted to put something in front of it to block it so people would stop talking about it. So I started putting a Cheerios box up there, and then I just kept putting a Cheerios box there, and then Eventually, I moved to a new apartment and I kept putting a Cheerios box behind me, and it just stayed behind me. And there was no reason for it to be there, and it could totally have moved, but I just kept putting it there because it just felt right. And that's the truth about a lot of things.

[B]

I.

[A]

On YouTube and on this podcast with a single mic and with our setups and with a lot of what we do, it just feels right. And that's just the way it is for now. Enjoy it. Hey, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening and tuning in and for. And for dropping a bunch of comments that we could answer. This was really fun. We'll probably do this again sometime. Maybe 350, maybe 400. Maybe we'll find a good reason to go live again. But thanks for dealing with us being five whole minutes.

[B]

I think it was like 10 or 10. It was a very stressful 10.

[A]

It was a while.

[D]

But hey, if you guys make it to episode 1000, you might get to see Ellis. And I test if you can kiss Envision Pro.

[E]

Yeah. Nah. 301. See you tomorrow, David.

[D]

See you tomorrow.

[A]

Get subscribed. Yeah.

[E]

The second we get. The second we get a second Vision Pro from Apple, it's going down.

[D]

Science.

[B]

Should we read out?

[A]

Let's sign out.

[C]

Read us out. And this is going to be a very weird outro because I'm waiting for the lag before I hit it.

[B]

Then we all have to wait.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Sa. Listen.

[E]

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