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Glennon Doyle
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things. Okay. I'm really excited about today because we need it. We have been discussing some very serious and hard things lately on the Pod, as we should. But we should also laugh. So today we're restoring some balance by revisiting our most embarrassing stories. I have to tell you that this episode is an episode that. That I think made the most people the most joyful. We are sharing today some of the most mortifying moments of our lives, along with your voicemail confessions that had us all cry, laughing, literally peeing in our pants in solidarity. Our theory is that when we share the stories that make us want to disappear, we realize we're not alone at all. We really hope that this hour gives you a good laugh because you deserve it. And if you've got any new embarrassing stories, please, please, God, you tell us. We need this. If you have a new embarrassing story, leave us a voicemail at 747-200-5307. That's 747-200-5307. Here we go. Today we have a real experiment to do, which is so exciting and fun. We had Jenny Lawson on brilliant, hilarious Jenny Lawson recently. It was our hundredth episode. Go back and listen to it. And she talks and writes so much about the power of humiliation, the power of sharing our mortifying moments
Sister
in the
Glennon Doyle
with the goal of connecting us further and making life funnier and more universal.
Sister
And it's so funny. And clearly we could use some LOLs at the moment. But also, it made me think of the Brene Brown episode where she was talking about how she talks about all of the horrible things she thinks to her kids. Yes, because she thinks that normalization is the antidote to shame. And it's so interesting because our mortifying stories often make us feel ashamed. But sharing our mortifying stories normalizes that and is the cure to shame.
Glennon Doyle
Right, Exactly. So. So that's what we're gonna do. That's our experiment. We asked a long time ago for the Pod Squad to send us their most embarrassing mortifying stories. What you need to know, Pod Squad, is that Abby and Sister and Allison and Dina and I have been listening to these stories. Yesterday, we could not. We weren't recording. We weren't. All we were doing was listening to your stories one at a time. Peeing the best.
Sister
Like, peeing.
Glennon Doyle
I haven't laughed. You know, that kind of laugh that just, like, makes you feel like you're a kid again and just like you actually are not.
Sister
Who needs a juice cleanse? When you could just laugh like that.
Glennon Doyle
Exactly.
Pod Squatter / Caller
A cleanse.
Glennon Doyle
It's a cleanse. I do think that laughing hard can be just as much of a cleanse as crying hard is. I kind of what I figured out yesterday. So we're hoping our experiment is we're going to tell some of our mortifying stories. We're going to hear from the Pod squad's mortifying stories, and we want to see if at the end of this hour, you feel a little bit more connected, a little bit more joyful, and a little bit less sucky. Okay, just a little less sucky is what we're going for.
Sister
It's a low bar, people.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah. Okay, so who wants to start? Who wants to share their embarrassing stories first? Sister, why don't you go?
Sister
I like how I was voluntold. Okay, so I have one that just happened a couple months ago because it's hard to narrow down my embarrassing stories. So I'm just gonna go sequentially. Um, the most recent one was I was on a call with our accountant, and what we need to know about her for purposes of this is that she and her little doggy are thick as thieves. Like, he has airline statuses. He's definitely cared for better than my children. Um, so we're on this Zoom meeting. It was when I was in the process of adopting our dog, Seamus, from this rescue group that rescued golden retrievers. And so we were in the process of applying to rescue him, but he wasn't actually Seamus. He had a different name. And she's so excited because she loves the dogs. And so she says, what's his name? And I, for no ascertainable reason, proceed to go into a diatribe in which I said, I promise you, the things I said were, don't judge us. This is not gonna be his name. We would never choose this name. It's the most pretentious name I have ever heard. I'm mortified by it. It's dripping with waspiness. I am allergic to this name. So don't judge me when I tell you, okay? She says, well, what's the name? I say, jeeves. At which point she pulls the dog into the Zoom screen and says, this is Jeeves. So that sucked. And so then I'm doing the thing where I am trying to dig myself out of the hole instead of just, like, not digging anymore, right? And I, if you can possibly believe it, I make it worse for all of us, including the Jeeveses. And that is the story of why we're getting audited this year. Because that's what John said when I told the story. He's like, why would you say any of that? Oh, my God, she's your accountant. Like, that's the worst person you could have completely offended. Also, his name was not Jeeves. Because you can't fool me 350 times. And I am not saying it out loud again because then all y' all with the original name are gonna call
Glennon Doyle
in, and I think you should. I think you should tell us the original name and because I actually. It'll balance each other out. Because I love the original name same.
Abby
I wanted to name it if I had another.
Glennon Doyle
If we rescue dog, I might name it this and tell us what it was named. This is a bad idea. It was Bentley.
Sister
Oh, it was outed. You're not allowed to out people. This is the 90s.
Glennon Doyle
The dog's name was Bentley. And I think that's the cutest freaking name. And I know it's a fancy car, that. Which is why you hated it, because it was a fancy car, right?
Sister
Yeah. It sounded like a frat boy who was like, I don't know. I think I want a Bentley.
Abby
I want some Bentley car.
Glennon Doyle
Not even a Bentley.
Sister
Summers in Maine. That's who this is.
Glennon Doyle
Okay, so I'll tell you. I'm going to tell you two quickly of mine, okay? Okay. So I taught third grade for a long time. It was the joy of my life. Okay. I still think I'm a teacher, just like on a very strange hiatus where I talk into a microphone. I'm waiting to get back to the classroom at some point.
Sister
But
Glennon Doyle
I taught at a school where barely any of my kids, my students, had English as their first language. So that's an important part of the story. A lot of them were very recent immigrants. We did a lot of communicating by body language, by a lot of things in the beginning. Okay, I had this one kid. I'm gonna call him Oscar.
Sister
Okay, Call him Jeeves.
Glennon Doyle
Call him Jeeves. I'm gonna call him Jeeves. Okay, so his name is Oscar. He was definitely not supposed to have favorites, but one of my all time favorite kids. He had barely any English. So Valentine's Day, he comes in, he walks up to my desk and he says, Ms. D. Present. And he's wrapped it with construction paper from our classroom. So it's all like smushed up. And so what you need to know real quick about Oscar is that he had an older brother who I loved so much and was only a few years younger than me, was getting involved, had some Stuff going on. But you would take such good care of Oscar and like bring him to school. Oscar was always stealing shit from his brother. So I open this construction paper present and it's this very thick gold chain. Like a rope gold chain. Like heavy, heavy, heavy gold chain. And it has this huge medallion on it. And the medallion says, Number One Sex Machine. Number One Sex Machine. Okay, now he. Oscar, I'm looking at this gold chain. Oscar is looking up at me with the most sweetest. I mean, just precious. Like, she's going to love this. She probably loves gold. The more gold, the better. He doesn't know what the hell this thing says, right? It's from.
Sister
She loves letters. Look at all these letters.
Glennon Doyle
She likes numbers. She likes letters, right? So then Oscar says, are you going to wear it? You're going to wear it, right, Misty?
Sister
You bet your Number One Sex Machine ass I'm going to wear.
Glennon Doyle
Exactly. Nobody looks at Oscar's eyes and says, no, I'm not wearing this. So I, I did walk from my classroom down to PE and then to the cafeteria with my teacher dress on. My little ducklings behind me, Oscar, proud as shit with a gold chain that says, Number One Sex Machine through an elementary school. Okay. And you know, the teachers who are my friends in the hallway were looking at me like huge eyed. And I was just like dagger eyeing them like, I dare you. You just, just look away. Just look away.
Sister
They knew it was true.
Glennon Doyle
But in the irony of Number One Sex Machine being my gift, that's what
Sister
we should have called Silent Sex Queen. Exactly.
Glennon Doyle
Number One Sex Machine.
Sister
Oh my God, I just thought of another one.
Glennon Doyle
Okay, what?
Sister
So when I was working at the law firm, there was this huge case that came up and there were like boxes and boxes of documents that we had to review for the court case. And it was too sensitive to even send by a courier. So they sent me over to the client's office to pick up these many, many boxes of documents. It's like a really big deal. I was like, oh, I'm being trusted with this very, you know, confidential, important thing. It was only like a mile away from my office. So I get in my car, I drive over to the client's office, walk in, meet the general counsel. He's very nervous about all of these things that are happening. I'm like, don't worry, you're in great hands. We're gonna take care of you. I have this huge dolly, like one of those not like hand dollies, but the big lie flat has two sides dollies. And I Have to take all these very sensitive documents and stack them on the big dolly. There's like 15 banker's boxes worth of documents. I have to take the elevator back down to the parking lot. I'm like, rest assured, you're in the best hands possible. You can trust us, okay? And I get to the parking lot and I'm like, huh? I can't find my car. That's odd. So I'm just. I'm like, I'll go look for my car. But I can't leave the dolly anyway, right? Because it's very important. So I'm rolling this giant dolly through the parking lot, and I can't find my fucking car. It's not there. And I have to go all through the five levels of the parking lot to look for my car with this giant ass dolly. I am seeing people, like, over and over again as I go. Up with the dolly. Down with the dolly. Up with the dolly. I. I did this. I am not joking you. For two hours. Oh, two hours with the dolly. I was just about to cry because I'm like, I don't know what to do. I can't leave, right? But I can't stay. And I can't very well go back upstairs to the general counsel of this client that I've just told he's in very good hands and say, I can't find my car. But don't worry. I have an. I have an acute legal mind. So. So after a while, I was just like, I'm screwed. There's nothing I can do. I can't call my law firm and say, thanks for trusting me with this case. Can you come help me find my car?
Abby
Dude, where's my car?
Sister
I just keep doing it. I just keep going up and down and up and down and up and down. Three hours later, I'm not joking. The elevator comes down to the garage. Who steps off the elevator? The general counsel of the company stepped off the elevator. And I am.
Glennon Doyle
He's going home for the day. He's going home for the day.
Sister
I am standing with the dolly that he has left me with three hours prior with no explanation as to how and why this would. This would possibly be the case.
Glennon Doyle
Oh, no.
Sister
And I just had to make some up, like, yeah, I just gotta do some legal things here with these documents for a minute. I had to wait till everyone left. I had to wait till everyone left.
Abby
For what?
Sister
So I could find my car. This is the only car left. There's no explanation for it. It doesn't make any sense. But I swear to God that thing happened.
Abby
Okay, thanks. I am Michelle and I am Craig.
Sister
Craig here is my big brother. We are so excited for you to listen to our brand new podcast. It's called IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson. Together, Craig and I are going to take your questions about the challenges you're going to grappling with in life.
Abby
So get in touch, send us your questions and join us on IMO with
Sister
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Abby
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Sister
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Glennon Doyle
Do you remember when I called Craig, when Craig was married to Craig, and I called him at work from the mall and told him we had to call the police because my car had been stolen? And he did call the police, and I was standing in the very place, the very small part of the parking lot where my car should have been, except that I had just driven the other car. That was amazing.
Abby
Y' all are the smartest dumb people I know.
Pod Squatter / Caller
Yes.
Sister
That is a natural thing.
Glennon Doyle
I know we can do hard things, but we cannot do easy things. Yeah.
Sister
Oh, and one time I went to the hospital, to the urgent care, because Bobby had this situation that was urgent care worthy, right? And I go into the line and. And they're trying to check me in, and they're like, you know, your kid's name, your kid's birthday, all the things to look him up. I give them all the information. They're like, he's not in our system. I'm like, yes, he is in your system. He was born here, like two years ago. Check your system. This child was born in this hospital. And they're taking so long and they're saying, he's not in here. And now I'm getting pissed, right? Because this is the urgent part of urgent care. Like, we need to get in there.
Glennon Doyle
Not just care, right?
Sister
I'm not looking for care at your general convenience. I'm looking for urgent care, right? So there's this whole line behind me. I'm, like, getting very upset. Like, get your shit in a pile, people. The people behind me are like, yeah, this is. I mean, why isn't he in this system if he was born here? And I'm like, yeah. So I'm getting a little vocal. And they keep looking. They keep looking. Anyway, they finally find him. And I'm like, well, thank you. At which point they announced to me and the whole line, because obviously they're very annoyed too, that that is not, in fact, my son's birthday.
Glennon Doyle
Oh.
Abby
Oh, my God.
Sister
And that is why they couldn't find him, because I didn't know his birthday.
Abby
Wrong info.
Glennon Doyle
That's so embarrassing.
Sister
It is embarrassing.
Glennon Doyle
I Have a doctor story. So one time when Chase was a baby, he was teeny tiny. He started to get this wild rash on his face. And every once in a while, actually be on his hands, too. And it was like orange. Like this orange rash. And it would go away and come back, go away and come back. And I was very concerned about it. And so I finally could not figure out what it was. So I took him to the doctor. So I'm in the doctor's office, and I'm standing there with the baby. I'm showing him. He's examining the orange face. I'm like, what could this be? Doctor's kind of looking at me strange. Whatever. The doctor leaves, the doctor comes back, and he looks very kind of embarrassed, you know? And I'm like, what's. Oh, God, what's happening? And he looks at Chase's face, and then he looks at me, and he says, I just. I want to ask you a question. Do you. It looks like from your appearance, that it's possible that you might go to a tanning salon. Do you. Do you by any chance spray tan? Do you use that spray tan? And I'm just like, it's not. And I'm not computing. I'm like, why in the fuck is this guy judging me for?
Sister
None of your business, Doc. Can we focus on the kid?
Glennon Doyle
I have a young baby. I'm doing whatever it takes, all right? Whatever it takes to survive is what I'm doing. And the spray tanning is the least of my problems, if you must know the truth. So he goes. Cause the spray comes off like the orange on your skin. I was breastfeeding Chase. I was dying my child's face from my boob with spray tan.
Abby
I know what he was doing when he left the room. He had to go talk to the other nurses and be like, she's infected her child with spray tan. Orange.
Glennon Doyle
He's like, you know that orange chick that just walked in? You're not going to believe this shit.
Sister
She's like, you know, see that fluorescent orange that's around your kid's mouth? Have you noticed that it's the same hue of fluorescent orange that you are? Right?
Glennon Doyle
So I left, and I'm like, so, Craig, here's the deal. Our kid's just gonna be orange for a while because I'm not ready to stop. But we don't have to worry about it.
Abby
Well, this is a good segue. Cause this is kind of like we're now easing into body functions, body parts of mortifying stories. And we're gonna hear, I think a few of them in voicemails from pod squatters. But mine happened when I was about 14 years old. I got off the bus.
Glennon Doyle
Oh, God, she's gonna do it.
Abby
And, you know, I didn't like to go number two at school. Like many of us don't. We gotta be in the comfort of our own home. We got our one specific toilet in the house that we like to go to. And at 14 years old, I was just assuming it was gonna be like any old day. But this day, for some reason, my bowels got moving faster than normal. And so as I was walking home from the bus stop, I lived on a cul de sac, and it was maybe a couple hundred yards walk to my house. I thought, well, I really gotta go and I can't run because I gotta go so bad.
Sister
Yes, that's the catch 22 of the number two.
Abby
Yeah, I can't run. And so what ends up happening, long story short, is I shit my pants. I shit, like, full on shit in my undies. But. And it wasn't like die or die shit. It was like big poop.
Sister
Ew.
Glennon Doyle
Oh, my God, we're getting so specific.
Abby
And so I go back.
Glennon Doyle
That's better.
Abby
Yeah. I go back, I waddle into the
Glennon Doyle
house
Abby
and try to get upstairs as fast as possible. And I go into my bathroom and I get the poo in the toilet. I flush it, but that doesn't, like, clean up the whole problem.
Sister
Right.
Abby
And I didn't feel like I was just gonna throw it away. And so the mortifying part of the story, that wasn't it. It's not even shit in my pants. I don't care about that. It's that I threw my poopied undies into the wicker trash basket in your bedroom. In my bedroom.
Glennon Doyle
Not even the bathroom.
Abby
And so my cousin, who was living with us at. Who was living in my bedroom, we had two little beds in there. She calls me out on it when she gets home because my room smells like actual poo. Because it's a wicker basket. There's not even a plastic liner in it.
Sister
You just put it in an open air situation. You're like, that should do it. Oh, my God.
Abby
She goes, abby, I have a question for you. And I think, to this day, we still have never talked about it. Abby, I have a question for you. Did you poop in your underwear and then you throw them out in the wicker basket? And I was like, no, to your grave.
Glennon Doyle
I was like, no to the grave.
Abby
I Don't know where she's like. But they're your underwear. I know what your underwear looks like. Mike. I don't know what to tell you.
Glennon Doyle
I don't know what to tell you.
Sister
This is a case for the FBI.
Glennon Doyle
Abby's finally admitting it was her underwear.
Abby
I pooed in my pants. I couldn't make it back.
Sister
Okay. It's happened all the time.
Abby
I know. And you know, when you get closer, the urge gets worse all the time.
Sister
It does. Let. Let ye who has not pooped her pants throw the first time.
Glennon Doyle
Do you remember, sister, when you. I'm just. I'm having so many mortifying flashes right now. It's just all coming back to me. It's all coming back to me now. Do you remember when you were driving home from high school?
Sister
Yes.
Glennon Doyle
And in the Cressida. In the Cressida that we used to start with a screwdriver that none of
Sister
my friend's parents would let them drive in because they had sense and it was like a death trap. Yes.
Glennon Doyle
Yes, it was. But remember when you just. You just got stuck in traffic and you just.
Sister
No, I wasn't.
Glennon Doyle
You just sat in the front seat and just peed.
Sister
Like, I just did the whole thing full on gush.
Abby
What?
Sister
Gosh. Pee.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah.
Sister
Well, I was driving home and I did the calculus. I was driving home from school, and there was just zero chance that I was gonna make it home right in time. It was just. And so I just. I just peed.
Glennon Doyle
But quick cue, full on. Quick cue, full peed.
Sister
Yes.
Abby
Did you think you could just pull off the road real quick?
Sister
No. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. The main. So the high school got out, right? And it was one route out of the high school. Everyone's leaving on the same road. There's no way around the situation. It was like high schoolers in front of me, high schoolers behind me. There's. There's like, a inconspicuous place to stop. Like, I thought about it. I'm like. I could pull over and like, no
Abby
gas station or anything.
Sister
No, no, no, no, no, no. And. And, like, getting to a gas station was beyond the pale. I only lived half a mile from the high school. I couldn't even wait. She paed her pants in her, like, car. The amount of pee that goes in the toilet is what went in the Cressida, not just like a dribble. And then the weirdest part is that you're looking so it's. It's like a. It's like A mullet where it's like business in the front, party in the back. It was like half of my body look normal. I'm like waving to people like, hi, have a great night. See you tomorrow. But the other half of me is just gush, pissing all over my car. I'm like, how weird that none of these people know I'm pissing myself right now.
Abby
What did your parents say? Did you tell Bubba and Tisha?
Glennon Doyle
I remember her telling me. We probably didn't even count.
Sister
No, I'm sure I didn't. I just. And also, it's not like the crest. It could be damaged. I probably just let it air out and got back.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, that was like the cleanest part.
Abby
Oh, my gosh.
Glennon Doyle
All right, I'm gonna tell my pee story and maybe even my pooh story.
Abby
You have a poo story?
Sister
You have a poo story.
Abby
Can you start with that?
Glennon Doyle
No. Okay. So they all have to do with my one long term ex boyfriend. We're going to call him Joe. Okay. The first time.
Sister
Let's call him Jeeves.
Glennon Doyle
Okay. The first time I dealt with Jeeves, I was very drunk also. All of the other times, for seven
Sister
years, every time, including the first.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, yeah, super drunk. Okay. And so it was in college, I slept over at his house for the first time. And so I woke up at like 11 or something, and Jeeves was not in bed anymore. And the reason that Jeeves was not in bed is because I had pissed. Like. Like, it was like I was on a waterbed. Like, I was literally.
Sister
It was like. You were in the Cressida?
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, it was like I was in the Crescent. Okay. I had peed everywhere. And then I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do. And I was still kind of drunk. And so I real quick just gathered up all of the sheets and the blankets from the bed and I just stole all of them. I just walked from his house all the way to my dorm. So it was like the middle of the day and I was walking through with like my heels and my black leather pants and, like a shit ton of sheets.
Abby
Yellow stained sheets. Cause you know after a night of drinking, that shit's not hydrated, so it's like neon yellow.
Glennon Doyle
There had just never been a walk of shame that was more shameful. You know,
Sister
picturing you in your tube top where everyone's going out for brunch and carrying a comforter.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, just a comforter in sheets. And then his whole fraternity called me Puddles for like an Entire year.
Abby
Rightfully so.
Glennon Doyle
Rightfully so.
Abby
If you pissed in the bed, I'd call you Puddles.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah. Okay. And then just. I'm going to tell the Pooh story. Just. I feel like this is. I'm. I'm.
Abby
It feels just for a little background, though, I don't and never have farted in front of Glennon before.
Sister
No.
Abby
Yes.
Glennon Doyle
No.
Abby
Yes, because she wants to keep some things a mystery, and that's one of them.
Sister
The mystery that maybe you're a person who doesn't fart. Look, you mean the lie. She wants to keep the lie.
Abby
She wants to. She wants to stay attracted to me because she sees as a farter. I think that she deems us less attractive. So we don't talk about poop stories or fart stories.
Sister
We don't talk about farting. No.
Abby
No.
Glennon Doyle
You guys, I have issues with body stuff, like bodily.
Sister
Oh, do. Yeah. That's so odd. I know, but isn't this.
Abby
Sister, what do you have to say about. About women who have issues with body stuff?
Sister
Oh, Abby, I'm so glad you asked. Okay, let's do our little. Our little five minutes of feminism
Glennon Doyle
and
Abby
then we're gonna get to Glenn and shit.
Glennon Doyle
Woohoo.
Sister
It's woohoo.
Abby
It's woohoo.
Glennon Doyle
Let's go. Let's go, you feminist killjoy.
Sister
Okay, okay, so here's the deal. Mortification, original term, is the Latin word meaning to put to death.
Pod Squatter / Caller
Wow.
Sister
This is literally.
Glennon Doyle
It's still immortal. Okay.
Sister
Yes, mortal. Exactly. Still, in medical terms, mortification refers to the death of one part of your body while another part is still alive. So it's necrosis. Right. Where like maybe your hand, but maybe necrosis.
Glennon Doyle
She says it like. That's a. That's an everyday word that we'll all know. So.
Sister
So, and this is the reason why when you have a mortifying situation, you feel like part of you has died. Yes, I am dead because this happened. I am now dead. And I actually regret the fact that the rest of me is still alive because I have to keep living in this untenable situation that I have created.
Abby
Yeah, continue.
Sister
But in. In Christianity, mortification, it's a whole Christian tenet that is the mortification of sins and the flesh. Right. I. Stay with me. I'm getting. I'm getting.
Glennon Doyle
Okay, okay, okay.
Sister
So it's this concept of self denial. You put to death the deeds of the body in you to repent for your sins. So that self denial, the discipline, it's the fasting, it's the abstinence. From sex. It's even in its most extreme form, the self flagellation.
Glennon Doyle
Whipping yourself, wearing hair shirts. They used to wear hair shirts to punish. Exactly.
Sister
Exactly. This is all mortification of the flesh. Okay? And that sounds absolutely insane, right? But how is that different from what we do, especially as women? I'm looking at you, Glennon. When there are natural deeds of the body, like the farting and the pooping and the peeing, all a hundred percent natural of the flesh, for some reason, we deny self denial that they are part of life. And when they show up, we proceed to self flagellate for being so evil as to let our bodies do what they do.
Glennon Doyle
Oh, my God. That's why everyone's most embarrassing stories are about, like, pooping or periods or farting or peeing, and they're all just totally natural.
Abby
So farting and pooping and the discussion of that is an actual act of feminism. This is what you're saying, S Sister.
Sister
I am saying that the body does what the body does. And if you have shame around the body or self denial, like, for example, that your partner farts, then it's possible that you are trying to put to death what the body does. Which, how is that any different from the self denial?
Glennon Doyle
I feel like people are going to be so mad at me about this one. I think. Well, they forget you think they're wrong, but I think they're going to be really mad at me for not letting you fart. And I just want to say to the pod squad, I don't need you to be on Abby's side about it. I know, I know, I know. And I'm working on being less mortified about having a body. That's what my whole eating shit is. And it's not. It's not about a shape of a body. It's about having a body. I am mortified at these things we live inside of. I would have. I would have designed them better.
Abby
Okay, go on with your poop story.
Sister
It's not about them being better. It's about you being okay with them.
Glennon Doyle
I know, I know. All right, But I'm just saying, why with all the farting and the pooping. Okay, why not?
Abby
I'm saying, why not?
Glennon Doyle
So I'm away.
Abby
Why not?
Glennon Doyle
I'm away with Jeeves years later.
Abby
Damn it. I was hoping so bad that this is a story that I was involved in.
Glennon Doyle
No. And I've never told you the story.
Sister
She hasn't pooped since she met you, Abby.
Glennon Doyle
But I want you to know that I don't I don't want to talk about this story after the podcast. I don't want you to bring it up again. I don't want it to be part of our familial canon.
Abby
Okay?
Glennon Doyle
I just. I want to tell it one time, and then I want to.
Sister
It's the cone of pod boundaries.
Glennon Doyle
Right?
Sister
It's just the three of us here and several million people. That's it.
Glennon Doyle
That's where I'm most comfortable. Okay. So I'm on vacation with Jeeves family. Jesus. Family is very fancy. I am in a hotel room. We have all different hotel rooms. Jeeves and I have our own hotel room. I have never admitted to pooping to Jeeves. This is not something that he knows that I do.
Sister
Okay.
Glennon Doyle
Also, to know Jeeves was very gross. Jeeves had no problem pooping. Anyway. Anyway, I had to poop. Okay, so.
Abby
Which is hard for you on trips?
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, super hard. So I go into the bathroom and I poop, and I come out and I sit down on the couch. And then Jeeves. It's a very small hotel room. Jeeves, his whole family comes in. Because we're all going out to dinner together. So there's, like, seven people in this room. Jeeves, his mom, Jeeves his dad. Jeeves, all his little brothers and sisters. He's got this teenage brother. His teenage brother walks into the bathroom. We're about all dressed up, ready to go. His little brother busts open the bathroom and goes, oh, my God. Who took this humongous shit?
Abby
You left a floater.
Glennon Doyle
Fucking forgot to flush the goddamn toilet. And Jeeves looks at me, and Jeeves is not the type to take one for the team, okay? That is not Jeeves. Jeeves looks at me with the most joy I've ever seen on his face.
Abby
Because he wants to go look at it.
Glennon Doyle
No, because he's so excited that this has happened to me.
Sister
Yeah, right. He delights in your mortification, and he
Glennon Doyle
just goes, it was her. She shit. She shit.
Sister
And then all
Glennon Doyle
family just stared at me, and I had no. I'm sweat. I'm like. I'm sweating. I'm sweating too much. I'm sweating so much. I can't. I had no idea how to. I didn't say any words. I just stared at everyone. There was no ending to this moment.
Sister
No.
Glennon Doyle
And truly, 80% of me died. And the 20% shell of me had to leave that room and go to dinner with those people.
Abby
Maybe this is what the real issue stems from. This is the trauma. The poop trauma.
Glennon Doyle
Who did it. She just did it.
Abby
So did you flush the toilet? How did the poop go down? What happened?
Glennon Doyle
I don't know, baby.
Sister
I don't know.
Glennon Doyle
I just. I went.
Sister
She blacked out after that.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, I. I just.
Abby
Good job on taking a big thanks.
Sister
Go big or go home.
Abby
Wow.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah. I'm excited that I made it through that story and that time of my life. Foreign
Sister
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Glennon Doyle
Do you guys want to hear some?
Abby
Yeah, let's do some voicemails.
Glennon Doyle
Okay, let's do it.
Pod Squatter / Caller
Hello, I'm calling to share a mortifying, embarrassing story. When I was 19, I had an internship at the Met Opera Guild in Manhattan and I went out with a co worker. I've never really drank before and got really, really drunk and she put me on a subway train to send me home at about like 3am I was the only one on the train and I was sitting there just concentrating so I didn't miss my stop. There was one of those ad posters in the train right across from me and I was reading it and it was a picture of a woman in like a looking for Lauren out a window. And the text said, someone on this train has lupus. And I read it and I looked around. I was the only one on the train and I decided that it was me. I was the only one here. And I was so concerned that I like called my roommate at the time and his mom and some folks that I worked with and left messages on office phones letting everyone know that I had lupus. Obviously did not, but good time, great time.
Abby
Someone on this train has lupit.
Glennon Doyle
She loomed and there's no one else on the train.
Sister
Oh my God, it's me. She called her friends to Brady and it said her co workers. She called her co workers at 2am and left them voicemails that she had that the train just informed her diagnosed her with lupus.
Abby
Oh my God.
Glennon Doyle
I love her so much.
Sister
Oh God, am I.
Glennon Doyle
And I love. I was just concentrating so I didn't miss my stop. I relate to that part too.
Sister
Oh God, yes. I just know concentrates as much as a person who can't concentrate because they're messed up. Oh my God. Okay, that was amazing.
Glennon Doyle
Let's hear from Michaela.
Sister
Oh, that was good.
Pod Squatter / Caller
My name is Michaela. I was dating a Man who is in the army, he brought me to an army ball. And there is a segment of this ball where everyone stands up and raises a glass. And the commissioner of the ball, they stand up there and they say a bunch of toasts. And you have dedicated responses in your program to these toasts. So, for example, the commissioner might say, I propose a toast to the usa. And everyone says, to the usa. And then there might be one that says, I propose a toast to field artillery. And everyone says, the king of battle. So there's all these responses and they're written in your program. I'm standing, I'm holding my glass. I am running through these responses. That and a thousand. Feeling so confident. Loving this. Feeling like a part of something. So cool, supporting our armed forces. I'm loving it. We get to the last toast and the commissioner says, a toast to our fallen comrade. And I scream out, moment of silence. Because I was reading the responses in the program and probably 1500 people in this ballroom looked at me with such disgust and disdain because not only had I disrespected all of our fallen comrade, I was truly just an idiot. Reading out the words moment of silence. So proudly, so proud of myself for going through these posts so well. So that moment haunts me to this day.
Sister
I hope that made you out and
Pod Squatter / Caller
I love you all so much.
Glennon Doyle
We love you more, Mikayla.
Sister
Moment of silence.
Abby
That's something I would have done.
Glennon Doyle
I agree with that.
Abby
I would have done that.
Glennon Doyle
Yes.
Sister
I agree.
Abby
I'm very like. I would love the order of it all. Reading. I've got a goal. I've got a job. There's one more response, and I would have also said, begins now. Moment of silence. Begins now.
Sister
That's good. That would be good.
Glennon Doyle
That's really good.
Sister
Can you. It's not good. It would not have covered. Yeah.
Glennon Doyle
Because it's better to pretend that that was your job, to announce the moment of silence.
Abby
Yeah. Or at least acknowledge the random lady
Sister
who's dressed up at table 38. That's her job. I don't think so.
Abby
Moment of silence.
Sister
Moment of silence. Can we just imagine that? 1500 people turning and looking at this woman who has just screamed at the top of her lungs, moment of silence.
Glennon Doyle
Oh, God.
Abby
I don't know why, but I. I would have. I would have paid a lot of money to see that.
Glennon Doyle
Me too. To be. To see that in real life.
Abby
I would have paid a lot of money to see something like that. I love seeing other people in their mortifying moments for some reason. Is there like, some science behind that.
Glennon Doyle
Well, I think it's gratitude. I love when people, like, add moments like that to. To, like, rigid things when, like, humanity and humor and absurdity get inserted accidentally into rigid situations.
Abby
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle
Like when people fall. Okay.
Abby
When people fall down in the airport. I just cannot love it more. Obviously, no injuries.
Glennon Doyle
Right.
Sister
That was the whole basis of that. Remember America's Funniest Home Video?
Glennon Doyle
Yeah.
Sister
That we used to watch every night, and it was just random people getting kicked in the ball. Y entire show. That was the whole basis of the show.
Glennon Doyle
Do you remember? Okay, I'm just remembering. Do you remember when I walked around for months in that padded bra that said. It was like a sports bra that was padded, but it had a sticker on it that said padded bra? And I just walked around it forever, and then I was just remembering. Remember when I moved to that new neighborhood in Virginia, and they were having a potluck, and we got a little inter. What? Not an interview invitation. Right. I don't get a lot of invitations.
Sister
You have more interviews than you have invitations.
Glennon Doyle
Exactly. So it was an invitation, and it said, bring a dish. And so I had never been to a fucking potluck before, and so I brought a dish. Okay, a dish. An empty dish.
Abby
What did the host say?
Glennon Doyle
Well, I do. I remember vividly the host's face, because I was like, what's wrong with this person?
Sister
Like, she doesn't like my dish.
Glennon Doyle
She doesn't like my dish. Maybe I was supposed to bring a certain kind of dish. I don't know. But I just. That was a moment in, like, you know, just say what you mean, people. If you want a dish with food on it, say it. If you want a dish. It feels like one plain thing.
Abby
But I just have a question. Let's just get to the root of. What did you think was gonna happen with your dish?
Glennon Doyle
Well, I thought somebody else was gonna put food on it.
Abby
So you were just bringing, like, plates.
Glennon Doyle
Yes. To a serving tray? Like a serving dish. I thought maybe my job was to bring the dishes and someone else was gonna bring the food.
Sister
I did my part.
Glennon Doyle
That's why I don't get a lot of invitations.
Sister
Oh, gosh.
Glennon Doyle
Okay, let's hear from our next pod squatter.
Pod Squatter / Caller
Hey, y'. All. Love the podcast. Love, love, love it. My name is Allison. Seriously, the most embarrassing moment of my life just happened on Friday. I already, like, lunch with a friend from high school. And we had just finished eating, and I leaned forward, kind of just to lean into the conversation, and I thought, I farted but no, I sat in my pants, sitting right there, my 55 year old self. Not just like regular poop.
Abby
Oh, no.
Pod Squatter / Caller
But diarrhea.
Abby
Die, Die.
Pod Squatter / Caller
Yeah. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, what the am I gonna do? What the. So I just leaned in, I said to my friend, I just pooped in my pants. Like, I just pooped in my pants. And I don't know if I can get up. So I got up and like, soaked to the bathroom quickly. And of course there was a line and I got in there and sure enough, there was. I threw my underwear away in the trash can. And you could see poof on the back of my pants were wet. So I'm like, what the fuck? So I'm like pulling my shirt down. I go back to the table. I'm like, girl, I got to go. I just left. She paid for my lunch. I just freaking left. I have a long purse, put it covered my ass, and just like got out of there. I've never done that in my life. I've almost pooped in my pants. But never like this. Have a great day.
Sister
Never like this.
Abby
I hope the trash can was not wicker.
Glennon Doyle
All right, let's hear from Anne.
Pod Squatter / Caller
Hi, this is Anne from Minnesota, and I am calling to tell you one of my most mortifying moments. This was years ago, and I went to the movies with my boyfriend, and it was a really intense movie, but I was dying for popcorn. So I was sitting on the end of the row and I snuck out and got my popcorn and came back in and got in my seat and kind of cuddled up and was looking at the movie. And I started to feed him some popcorn and play footsies and just catch up on the plot. And then all of a sudden, I noticed that my boyfriend was sitting three or four rows ahead of me. And I actually got down by some random guy who was all of a sudden more interested in me than the movie. So I was so mortified, I just dropped the popcorn at the movie theater. Didn't work out with that guy, but boy, it's a fun story. Years later.
Glennon Doyle
Oh, so good. Okay, that reminds me. The wrong dude just reminded me of something that I'm gonna admit right now. Okay, so during my drinking days, I was out at night with a bunch of friends, and I decided to take a cab to my boyfriend's house. So I had the cab. I told the cab driver my boyfriend's address. I got delivered to the door, but when the door opened, I realized that I had gone to the Wrong boyfriend's house. This was my old boyfriend from, like, from, like, a year before. And I had forgotten that I wasn't dating him anymore. I had forgotten I had a whole new boyfriend. Okay. And then do you know the worst part, the most mortifying part?
Abby
You stayed there, didn't you?
Glennon Doyle
I just fucking stayed there.
Abby
Oh.
Sister
What?
Glennon Doyle
I just stayed there.
Sister
I was like, you slept with the old one?
Glennon Doyle
Oh, my God. I was like, well, you know, I want to make this awkward. I'm just gonna act like I came here on purpose.
Abby
I came here for a reason.
Glennon Doyle
He looks happy to see me. Let's just do this. And I need a bed. I just need to go to bed. So, yeah, I slept with him that night.
Abby
Oh, my gosh.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah. So like the popcorn story, but just, like, much sadder. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sister
But. But the difference is you saw it was the wrong boyfriend, and you were like, ah, fuck it. Let's go.
Glennon Doyle
It. Fuck it. A guy didn't know.
Abby
Yeah.
Sister
She. When she was putting popcorn into the mouth of her boyfriend, that it was in fact a stranger. I know.
Glennon Doyle
I got sober. Okay. It's fine. It all. Well, that ends well. Jeeves was delight. Okay, let's go with Andrea.
Sister
Andrea.
Pod Squatter / Caller
This is Andrea. I was in a public stall. My door wouldn't lock. And so, you know, I was doing the balancing act of trying to hold the door closed and go to the bathroom, but, you know, you can't hold it the whole time. Right before I knew it, another woman had come in to my stall, not even seeing that I was there, and pulled her pants down and sat on me. No, it was mortifying. I don't know who it was more embarrassing for, me or her, but, yeah,
Abby
I mean, I can only imagine a little tinkle had to have come out.
Pod Squatter / Caller
Love you guys.
Glennon Doyle
God.
Sister
I mean, a stranger.
Abby
Naked woman sitting on your floor.
Glennon Doyle
Did you not notice that somebody. Maybe she was drunk.
Sister
Oh, I could. You know, you would. You could totally do it. Sometimes you just. Back in there, you just.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, that's true.
Sister
You back in there, you totally couldn't.
Abby
But I would never walk into a stall without looking in the first. That is. That is the truth.
Sister
Maybe she was true.
Glennon Doyle
Maybe it was me. Maybe it was me sat on Andrea.
Sister
Yes, I'm gonna need Andrea, please, for the love of God, can you call back in and give us the rest of that story? Because what I need to know is when said naked woman who's sitting on top of you realizes that she is not sitting on a toilet, but sitting on you.
Abby
Yes.
Sister
What happens Next.
Abby
Yes. I need to know more.
Sister
How do you recover from that? Are you just like, oh, excuse me, sorry. And then she stands up and pulls up her pants and then leaves the restroom.
Glennon Doyle
That's a lot of mortifying moments end in no language.
Sister
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Glennon Doyle
Like, it's not. Mortification is not something that can be explained. It needs to just die. It needs to. You have to pretend that it never happened in public.
Sister
Yeah, you do have to pretend.
Glennon Doyle
That's right. Right. It's just. You don't explain it that. I remember pre Covid landing at an airport and getting into my Uber, putting my suitcase in the back seat, jumping into an Uber and saying, thank you so much for picking me up. And the woman saying, I am not an Uber. I am waiting for my sister. You got into a. I got into a random person's car. Right. And then the best part is I was like, oh, my God, I am so sorry, and started to get out of the car, and she goes, that's okay, Glennon.
Sister
No, no. She knew it was you. Oh, my God. Yes, yes, yes.
Glennon Doyle
Okay, let's hear from Em.
Pod Squatter / Caller
My name is Em, and I work in a workplace where we have security guards, and I've worked there for many, many years. So these security guards know me really well. And a few years ago, I was leaving from work and going to the airport and to visit a lover, and I had my suitcase with me, and in my suitcase, I had a strap on. Otherwise sometimes referred to as a dildo.
Abby
There it is.
Pod Squatter / Caller
And I put my suitcase through the metal detector, and these guards that I know very well said, ma', am, can you tell us what this is? And they pointed right to the strap on. And I held my shoulders back, and in a very calm voice, I said, yes, that is a prosthetic penis. And I took my suitcase and I walked very calmly to the elevator, where I melted into a puddle of laughing and crying and embarrassment. So that is my favorite strap on story. Thank you.
Abby
Favorite strap on story.
Glennon Doyle
That means she has a lot of other strap on stories.
Sister
Oh, my God, I love this. Straightened my back and said, yes, that is a prosthetic penis.
Glennon Doyle
Exactly.
Abby
Okay, I have a little story that I need to tell. So I was traveling.
Sister
You have a favorite strap on story?
Abby
I don't have a favorite strap on story, but this is a similar kind of story that I think might fall in the lines. I was traveling via plane, and so, of course, you have to go through metal detectors and security. And I was just doing Carry on. So I had a rolly Carry on bag. And this happened to be kind of a small airport, so they actually went through the whole bag. Right. And I didn't anticipate this. And I was bringing. I brought a vibrator with me on road. Wherever it was I was going. I think I was actually in, like, Birmingham, Alabama. So this sweet older TSA agent, he starts going through my bag and finds my vibrator. So he pulls my vibrator out and he says, what is this? And I said, it's a vibrator. And he said, what does it do? And I say, it vibrates. And so he turned it on and it starts vibrating. And his co worker walks over and catches this moment happening and he's like, oh, my God, I am so sorry.
Sister
Oh, my God.
Abby
Turn that off. Put that back. You know, And I'm not the kind of person that gets embarrassed about stuff like this. Pro vibrations.
Sister
You have high vibrations. High, infrequent.
Abby
But I was mortified in some ways for this older gentleman for me to walk away and then him to get told what it was.
Sister
On the upside, he now knows that vibrators exist and his life has gotten better since.
Glennon Doyle
Right.
Abby
I bet security people see a lot.
Sister
Yeah. Oh, can you. Random, weird.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, A lot of mortifying moments in that line. Okay. All right.
Sister
We have some write ins.
Glennon Doyle
Great.
Sister
I. That we have to. Okay. All right. Top 10 of the write ins that y' all sent in.
Abby
Yes.
Sister
I once tried to flirt with a boy at work and accidentally concussed him. My mom caught me practicing kissing with an Abercrombie and fit shopping bag.
Abby
What?
Sister
Talking on the phone while asking Target employees to help me find my lost phone. Yes. I'm a 37 year old woman and I in my car in a takeout container at a red light last.
Glennon Doyle
Last week.
Abby
Yes. So good.
Sister
Opened my Mac in front of my date and it was a how to have lesbian sex YouTube video. A male co worker came upon me while I was masturbating in a work vehicle.
Glennon Doyle
Oh, that's hard day.
Sister
I pooped my pants during a job interview. I didn't get the job. I saluted my boss's bosses after they observed me. I am not in the military. Until college, I thought a brothel was a potluck. I learned when I offered to host a brothel, I was having sex for the first time and he pulled a piece of toilet paper out of my butt.
Glennon Doyle
Oh, bugs.
Abby
Oh.
Glennon Doyle
All right. I want to say this. I feel two things. I feel that for me, the experiment has worked. I feel closer to everybody, every single Woman who has shared their stories here.
Abby
What about this woman?
Glennon Doyle
Yes to you also.
Abby
What about. Can we fart now?
Glennon Doyle
I think we should talk about it another time. Okay. I just want to open the farting floodgates, and then we'll.
Sister
If not now, when? If not, who? You.
Glennon Doyle
Okay. I do want to suggest one thing for our next right thing.
Abby
Fart.
Glennon Doyle
I feel strongly about Em's response when the guards asked her what her strap on was. Her whole response, the squaring of her shoulders, the looking those men in the eye, the saying, yes, that is a prosthetic penis. And so I think we were just talking about how there's a silence after every mortifying moment. And I think it could be a forever kind of Mockingjay bat signal for the pod squad that whenever we get to the end of a mortifying moment, we just say in that moment, no matter what it's about, why, yes, that is a prosthetic penis.
Sister
That's good.
Glennon Doyle
So just start saying that if it's a mortifying moment. Do you know what I mean? I think that's how we get out of it. That's the language we have now that we didn't have before.
Sister
Well, thank God.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, you've got it, I think.
Abby
Can't wait to do it now.
Glennon Doyle
I know, right? Aren't you almost hoping to be mortified so you can say it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you are now part of the mortification club. Also, I seriously. We haven't talked about this, but I think we should keep collecting these stories over time. When something mortifying happens to you, please call it in. I think we should do one of these shows every six months because it's just good for the soul.
Abby
Well, it's fun for us, too. Like, we've laughed so much over the last couple of days, and I think for us, we needed this. Like, fuck this world. We needed this big time.
Glennon Doyle
Yeah, we need to laugh. And I do want to say. I just. Let's just start with one fart and see how it goes.
Abby
Can I do it now?
Glennon Doyle
No, we're on the air. So here we go. We're ending the show. We love you forever, and we'll see you here next time. And I'm working on my shit. I don't want anyone to be mad at me or write me mean letters. I know that it's not right, and I'm working on it. I just am what I am. Okay. I love ya. God bless ya. Why, yes, it is a prosthetic penis.
Sister
Send us your mortifying story. It's part of the revolution of normalization. It is 747-200-5307. That's mortification at 747-200-5307. It vibrates.
Abby
And don't send us your actual prosthetic penis.
Glennon Doyle
We already have some.
Abby
That is just a general term we are using for mortification.
Glennon Doyle
Love you mean it. Bye. We can do Hard Things is an independent production brought to you by Treat Media. We make art for humans who want to stay human and you can follow us at wecandohard things on Instagram.
This riotously funny episode of "We Can Do Hard Things" is a pause from heavy topics, as hosts Glennon, Abby, and Amanda (aka "Sister") share their most mortifying and embarrassing stories, along with wild confessions submitted by listeners ("Pod Squad"). The through-line: vulnerability, laughter, and the power of normalized humiliation as a cure for shame—fueling a collective sense of humanity. Listeners can expect plenty of bodily mishaps, social faux pas, relatable moments, and honest reflection.
Rapid-Fire Write-ins (58:02)
Feminist Reflection (Throughout)
Call to Listeners
The episode succeeds in lightening the collective emotional load, affirming: shame dissolves in honest company, and we’re all united by the ridiculous unpredictability of being human. The new "prosthetic penis" mantra is born for facing future mortifying moments, and the Pod Squad is invited to continue normalizing embarrassment by sharing their own stories.
As Sister affirms:
"Send us your mortifying story. It's part of the revolution of normalization." (61:41)
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