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Ken Marino
Foreign.
Mark Normand
Hey. Hey, folks. Here we are. We're back. It's a sunny summer day out there in Manhattan. I'm sweating.
Jonah Ray
It's hot, buddy.
Mark Normand
I'm wearing all fabletics, top to bottom.
Jonah Ray
I love that stuff.
Mark Normand
Great stuff. Thank you.
Jonah Ray
I like free stuff.
Mark Normand
Yeah. And this is better than anything I own. It's, like, nicely made, and there's no stains on it.
Jonah Ray
Yeah. Wonder why it's so cheap.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
Good stuff.
Mark Normand
They're hooking it up.
Jonah Ray
I'm hurting, dude. I'm just like. This Nick series is taking years off my life. It's crazy.
Mark Normand
I know. I know. It's like a Shakespeare drama. The ups, the downs, the hate, the fighting, the joy. The city's a buzz. There was a brawl in Bryant park, by the way. Then the Trump stuff threw a wrench in it. It's like. This is like a movie. There's so many layers.
Jonah Ray
It took a long time to get into the arena because of the Trump stuff.
Mark Normand
I bet. Then he fell asleep.
Jonah Ray
I know.
Mark Normand
Tylenol pm, prime minister, dude.
Jonah Ray
It was. That was wild. I went to game one in San Antonio, flew down, text Shane Gillis. I was like, are you going tonight? And he goes, nah, the tickets are too expensive. I don't want to. And then he. Look, he's like, they just went down. I'm gonna go.
Mark Normand
Oh.
Jonah Ray
So he's like, come over. I'll get a party bus. We'll go together. Whoa. McCusker.
Ken Marino
Shane.
Jonah Ray
Oh, Tommy Pope. We had a crew. My boy Chase was there. We pounding white claws on the way. Shane's. It's a good sports drink because they go down easy. It gets the buzz going. Then you can switch to something else.
Mark Normand
All right, all right. I'm a high noon, man.
Jonah Ray
It's all the same.
Mark Normand
One is vodka, one's malt liquor.
Jonah Ray
High noon is vodka.
Mark Normand
Yeah. That's the beauty of it. It's a vodka. It's like an rtd. It's a vodka soda.
Jonah Ray
I didn't even know that.
Mark Normand
Yeah, Yeah. I learned that the hard way, but.
Jonah Ray
Well, we. We're going down Shane's. He's blasting like New York state of mind. He's blasting like nas. You know, I like how he went
Mark Normand
from, I'm not spending any money to, I'll buy tickets and party bus. Yeah, those party buses aren't. Aren't cheap.
Jonah Ray
Yeah, it was pretty wild.
Mark Normand
I love it.
Jonah Ray
And that game was crazy. Spurs fans were pretty cool. Honestly. They're pretty respectful. They were fucking me a little bit. It was. It was playful.
Mark Normand
Okay. Somebody had the great tweet. Did you see that? When the Wemby and all the guys are walking into the arena out of the bus, one guy looks like this looks like the integration of schools. Because like the black kids and everybody's like, fuck you, bitch. Fuck you. All the way New York, Long island guys like, kill yourself, bitch. And they're like.
Jonah Ray
It was. It did feel like a bit of a works after the game. Everyone was cool, but there were some. All the Knicks fans kind of banded together. We're all like, high five. And then. And then a few. A few of those hardcore Latino fans are like, motherfucker, you better watch yourself. And like, we're all circling each other.
Mark Normand
That's great.
Jonah Ray
It was wild. But yeah, it was. It was an experience, man. I've never. I kept chickening out and I was like, it's now or never, man.
Mark Normand
Yes. You don't have to tell us what you spent, but was it more than 10?
Jonah Ray
No.
Mark Normand
Okay. More than five?
Jonah Ray
Let's. All right. The conversation, it was a lot.
Mark Normand
All right, well, you got no children or pets. You're fine. No roommates.
Jonah Ray
I got nothing.
Mark Normand
You got nothing.
Jonah Ray
Oh, this is AI. This isn't real.
Mark Normand
You sure? Looks pretty real, real good for this guy. Hanging out.
Ken Marino
Not good.
Jonah Ray
You got. What are you doing, New Yorkers? Come on. Respect.
Mark Normand
We're not an open carry state.
Jonah Ray
If that's the referee, then you do it to the referee. Who? You don't do it to them. You want to hear some shit? Totally Josh Safdie. At the Knicks game, Mark Davies, the ref who fucked us in game three, walks over to him and hands him a card and goes, you're my son's favorite director. He's a filmmaker. So now I'm fucking. I know this about Mark Davies. I'm going to heckle his ass. Your kids work is derivative. He's a trash filmmaker, bro. Your son fucking sucks.
Mark Normand
He's a hefty. Yeah, you wish you were Josh. Damn, dude. Wow, that's great. Good for the kid. I have a favorite director. That's good. I guess he's in film school.
Jonah Ray
Yeah, he's in film.
Mark Normand
What is that?
Jonah Ray
Who cares?
Mark Normand
I'm just saying he screwed us.
Jonah Ray
We. We played like in game three, but we didn't play well enough.
Mark Normand
I thought it was pretty, pretty good.
Jonah Ray
There was some fucked up calls. They're protecting Wemby like a motherfucker.
Mark Normand
I mean, that neck throwdown was crazy.
Jonah Ray
Crazy that because he gets one more flag when he's suspended. So they're protecting him.
Mark Normand
Oh, interesting.
Jonah Ray
He's gotten too many.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
I mean, it's crazy.
Mark Normand
He's got no experience. He's a very good player, but he's very talented. He's too young and dumb. Although, you see that photo, him sketching
Jonah Ray
in the park, it's starting to annoy me. We get it. You're a fucking jack of all trades. You're a renaissance man.
Mark Normand
Enough. But that's the French in him, clearly. No, American. Black guy's like, let me paint this flower, this lilac. Look at this kid.
Jonah Ray
I mean, he's a really good player.
Mark Normand
I love that.
Jonah Ray
But he's starting to annoy me. Like, I think people are going to start to see he's pretty dirty. It's also like, he can't be 75 and dirty.
Mark Normand
Yes, exactly.
Jonah Ray
The best.
Mark Normand
I agree.
Jonah Ray
It's like if Clooney was roofing women. You're already super hot.
Mark Normand
Stop. That's a good point.
Jonah Ray
Do it on your.
Mark Normand
Yeah, exactly. You have the skill. Yeah. Also, you're that. You're that tall. We're going to see it. And Brunson's a shorter guy, so it's like the height imbalance, the power imbalance. It's not fair.
Jonah Ray
It's fucking annoying, dude.
Mark Normand
Brunson, tough as nails. Where you see what the aviators on and the press conferences and he's. They're like, what you think?
Jonah Ray
I mean, look at this. And it's like. And his parents are like, his mom's 6:3 and his dad's 6:7, which feels like they did it on purpose, which is also annoying. Yeah, it feels like, like, you know, they're trying to make the greatest. Like, it's feels very eugenics.
Mark Normand
It completely.
Jonah Ray
It feels like Hitler would have loved this.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
Hitler would have been a Wemby fan, guys.
Mark Normand
Wow, that's a quite a push. Jesus.
Jonah Ray
I don't care for it. I don't care for it.
Mark Normand
They just. I saw one clip.
Jonah Ray
What does this show become? Wfan?
Ken Marino
What are we doing here?
Mark Normand
I don't care for it. That's the tagline.
Jonah Ray
Care for it?
Mark Normand
Okay, well, that. Just the last thing I'll say was the. The coach went up to the refs like, what the hell are you doing? He goes, yeah, you're right.
Jonah Ray
I know.
Mark Normand
I was like, what the hell? You just admitted it.
Jonah Ray
I know.
Mark Normand
I'd never seen that.
Jonah Ray
And the fix is in, Brother Tony. Brothers is just as bad. Hopefully by the time this comes out, it's changed.
Mark Normand
But damn, dude, that's crazy. But the city's a buzz and I hate to say it. Nobody wants to hear this. And this is blasphemy to say this out loud. You're not gonna like it. You're hungover, you're a fan. You're at the game. But I think the fact that they lost one adds a little more gas on the fire. Now the stakes are even higher. Now there's a tension in the air because before it was kind of like, oh, we might sweep this.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
So now it's like, okay, drama now
Jonah Ray
every game, you could lose the next game, and it swings the series now.
Mark Normand
Exactly.
Jonah Ray
Comes a must win. It's crazy.
Mark Normand
Exactly. So this. This adds a little more. It's like when you go down on a girl, you kiss the thigh a little. You don't want to go right for the clit. Same with this.
Jonah Ray
I want the clit. All right, give me the clit.
Mark Normand
No.
Jonah Ray
It's maddening. It was a maddening.
Mark Normand
Yes. And that's always. It was like.
Jonah Ray
But no violence. Don't attack fans. It's fucking craziness. What are we doing?
Mark Normand
Well, the funny thing is the Knicks got fight with each other or the. The fans.
Jonah Ray
Now you got to use this to bring. To bring us up and bring us together.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Hear, hear. I think Trump really fucked it all up. Love me or hate him. It was just. It screwed up the vibe. It was all joy before, of course,
Jonah Ray
it turned into the fucking. I've never seen security like that. Dude, it was awful.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Yeah. You couldn't. You couldn't have a watch party, so Mondani had to move the watch party to the Bryant Park. And then it changed everything.
Jonah Ray
It screwed up the vibes I was on.
Mark Normand
I was on the road watching all the videos of the fans, like, doing hilarious shit. What do they say?
David Wain
My.
Mark Normand
My God is black, my wife is gay, my Christian Dior, my.
Jonah Ray
My mate, my Muslim, my bagel Jewish, my Christian Dior, Nixon, Ford.
Mark Normand
That was it.
Jonah Ray
Now we got to change it to something else.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
Because it's not nick4, but true. What are you gonna do? Oh, is our guest here?
Mark Normand
I guess so. You need a drink. How you feeling?
Jonah Ray
Ah, I don't know. How about you? I mean, if the guests drink, I'll have a drink.
Mark Normand
Okay. Okay.
Jonah Ray
If not, I'll probably chill.
Mark Normand
I heard a fun fact about. Oh, it's got a pee about sleeping. Yeah, I got. I slept, like, seven and a half hours, which, when you have a kid is a miracle. And I woke up, and I'm. I feel so tired. I feel wiped. And I looked it up, and it said, you actually feel the way you feel from the night before sleep.
David Wain
Is that true?
Mark Normand
The day before. Hey, come on in.
Jonah Ray
Come in.
Mark Normand
Yeah, that's how we do it. You jump right into the origin. Yes, sir.
Ken Marino
This is happening right now.
Jonah Ray
Oh.
Mark Normand
In front of your eyes.
Ken Marino
David's in the bathroom, so I'm not ready to go.
Jonah Ray
No, you come right here. And he'll sit here when he's done peeing or pooping, whatever we're doing here.
Mark Normand
That's true. That's true. We could be doing a lot.
Jonah Ray
I said P and or pooping.
Mark Normand
Hey, nice to meet you. Great head of hair.
Ken Marino
Thank you.
Mark Normand
It's very nice. Oh, thanks. Really?
Ken Marino
You guys are just riddled with hair.
Mark Normand
Riddle. Hey, ladies. How are you? Hi. Hi.
Ken Marino
What is this?
Jonah Ray
This is our studio. You got. You got to talk into the mic. You've done this before, right?
Ken Marino
Yeah. You guys are unorthodox. I was talking over there. I don't know what the hell.
Mark Normand
He's Jewish. Yeah. We got a fun studio. If you want to drink. We got you Ladies, if you need a cocktail or a water.
Ken Marino
Where do you want David to sit? Because.
Mark Normand
Right there. Oh.
Jonah Ray
We spread it out, split it up.
Ken Marino
All right, ready? Airplane mode, please. Bam. That's it.
Mark Normand
All right.
Ken Marino
It's like Emerald Lagasse, except with not food, but with just a phone.
Mark Normand
Bam.
Jonah Ray
Yeah. Airplane mode doesn't work as well with the phone.
Ken Marino
Well, it's for you.
Mark Normand
Yeah, it's funny. The Knicks are cooking, and then we have my friends in town for the Spielberg movie premiere, so there's a lot of stuff going on. Hey, Alien movie disclosure date.
Jonah Ray
David, sit right here.
Mark Normand
Something like that. Yeah.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Disclosure is a different movie.
Ken Marino
I have to. I'm going to chomp in this phone, so I have to get rid of this gum.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah. Throw it in the ashtray maybe.
Ken Marino
Is that real smelling salt?
Mark Normand
Yeah. Take a hit. It'll wake you up. I saw Josh Hart hitting that.
Ken Marino
Is that what I was like?
Jonah Ray
Don't put it too close to your nose, dude.
Mark Normand
It's strong.
Jonah Ray
Yeah, It'll you up.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that'll do it.
Ken Marino
Yeah. I saw Josh. I was like, what the hell was that?
Mark Normand
That's what he does.
Jonah Ray
He's got energy. Hey, David. What's up, Sam?
Mark Normand
Hey, Mark.
David Wain
Good to see you. How you doing?
Mark Normand
Good. Thanks for popping in right now, David.
Ken Marino
It's recording.
Mark Normand
We're on.
Ken Marino
Here we are.
Mark Normand
We slide right in. Oh, you got a garbage right here. Hey, you guys are a ball. Energy.
David Wain
I like to slide right in when I'm Talking about?
Mark Normand
Oh, I thought you were gonna sing Zip Zop Zow.
Jonah Ray
You guys are in a band, aren't you?
Ken Marino
Yeah, it's called the Middle Aged Dad Jam Band.
Mark Normand
Middle Aged Dead.
David Wain
Middle Aged Dad Jam Band. That's what it's called.
Ken Marino
That's right.
Mark Normand
Mad gm Mad jb.
Ken Marino
You're looking at it right there. We're singing. Oh, Grease.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Hey, a couple of DILFs. I love that song.
David Wain
Yeah, there's a whole variety of songs from the past.
Mark Normand
All right. I am very uncomfortable.
Ken Marino
It's uncomfortable.
Mark Normand
Wow. Why is it you guys are grooving and vibing? It's uncomfortable for you. Yeah.
Ken Marino
Why?
Mark Normand
Well, you're having too much fun. It's awkward.
Ken Marino
Is that a new shirt?
Mark Normand
Yeah, still got the creases.
Ken Marino
Yeah. Yeah.
David Wain
Oh, my God.
Jonah Ray
We're twins.
Ken Marino
Twinsies. Two black shirts and you've got a black shirt.
Mark Normand
Hey, look at me.
Ken Marino
The opposite. I got a white shirt on.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Corduroy in the summer is ball Z.
Ken Marino
Listen, I just needed a light pant with a dark top.
David Wain
Wait, on the screen there on the right is my niece Allie playing the violin. She in the hot 98 degrees in LA. She's wearing a sweater with a leather jacket over it.
Ken Marino
Yeah. And by the way, just speaking of Greece, Arthur Fonzarelli wore a leather jacket always. Even skiing.
David Wain
Well, because he was cool.
Mark Normand
Exactamundo.
Ken Marino
Let me just say.
David Wain
How much for this? How much?
Mark Normand
That's yours.
Ken Marino
Let me just say something to you.
Mark Normand
Oh, you can vent movie this.
Ken Marino
This. I walk in. I thought I was a guest. I thought this was a safe place.
Mark Normand
It's very safe.
Ken Marino
Right away you're attacking me about wearing corduroy in the.
Mark Normand
I'm not attacking. I'm observing.
Ken Marino
I was gonna say I went into Buck Mason yesterday.
Mark Normand
Oh, quit bragging.
Jonah Ray
That's a hot new store.
Ken Marino
I have to tell you what happened.
Mark Normand
All right.
Ken Marino
Can I wear corduroy? I asked two guys working there, can I wear corduroy in the summer? And the guy says, yeah.
Mark Normand
Well, they're trying to make a sale.
Jonah Ray
Yeah. Asking a stripper if you're attracted Buck Mason are known. They're known for lying.
David Wain
You done asked the wrong guy.
Ken Marino
Well, if you translate Buck Mason into English, it means bold faced liars, which I just found out today.
Mark Normand
Oh, I didn't know that.
Ken Marino
What is this?
Mark Normand
That's a soda water. Seltzer water.
Ken Marino
Oh.
Jonah Ray
Do you guys want a cocktail or something? Or. No, you.
David Wain
You play your cards right, you might be able to join the black T shirt mafia.
Ken Marino
These guys. Btm now how long have you been drinking today?
Mark Normand
No, we haven't. But he's hungover.
Ken Marino
Hell, we might be. Yeah. You were at the game, you know. Where, where, where were you watching? Take two?
Jonah Ray
I was at the game.
Ken Marino
No, you weren't.
Mark Normand
That was. It was. You were at the game. Second row, fourth. That counts.
Ken Marino
Oh, my gosh. They played like crap in the beginning. I don't know what was going on. Was it so loud that they couldn't hear each other and that's why they were passing like it was loud. They were more nervous. To me, they seem more nervous than the spurs in the beginning. Then they got their together.
Mark Normand
They always take a minute.
Jonah Ray
They start slow.
Mark Normand
They're like an old car.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Then they're getting.
Ken Marino
They haven't been starting. Not sometimes.
David Wain
They got to rev up. Just get their game going.
Mark Normand
Yeah, exactly. It's like a 40 year old anyway
Ken Marino
that there's some crazy ass fouls happening.
Jonah Ray
I know. Thank you.
Ken Marino
Like, what are we doing?
Mark Normand
Oh, Julie Klausner. Hello. Anyway, nothing wrong with that.
David Wain
Nothing wrong with that.
Jonah Ray
Are you guys sports guys?
Ken Marino
I'm a Nick fan from way back and I've been a Nick fan and I've watched every game this season.
Mark Normand
Hey, quite a run they had, I'll tell you what. Like, of not losses.
Ken Marino
Oh, I thought that was like some sort of backhand, like it's over now, like.
Mark Normand
No, no, I'm saying, like quite a run of wins in a row. This is quite impressive.
Jonah Ray
He said they've had. So it's not over.
Mark Normand
Yeah, it's true. Well, they lost.
David Wain
I mean, quite a run they've had thus far.
Mark Normand
Yes, thank you.
Ken Marino
It was implied, I suppose, and I just didn't pick up on it.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Oh, hey, here we are at We Might be Drunk. Is there a theme song?
Jonah Ray
No, but you guys could help us with it.
Ken Marino
Okay. Yeah, we might be drunk. You're gonna go. I'm gonna go low. You go, hi. I'm gonna take this.
Mark Normand
Oh, boy. It's gonna be back at a improv camp. That's a lot of work.
Ken Marino
You don't have to improv. You just hang out. Just sit back and relax.
Mark Normand
Well, I would like to be a part of it.
Ken Marino
Well, in a way, you're part of it right now.
Mark Normand
All right, cool. Well, hey, welcome, guys. Thanks for coming in.
Ken Marino
Where's a cold beer?
Mark Normand
Oh, we got that. You want a beer?
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
We don't know.
David Wain
Look,
Mark Normand
What do you want anything?
Jonah Ray
This is a drinking podcast.
Mark Normand
How about some highlifes? Corona Modelo.
Ken Marino
What do you.
Mark Normand
What do you have everything except beer. Well, we do have beer. Oh. Oh, all right. What do you want? It's on the bottom floor.
Jonah Ray
How about some hard liquor? Make us a drink.
Ken Marino
Do you have ice?
Mark Normand
Yes.
Ken Marino
All right, let's do a. A gin and tonic.
David Wain
It's a tequila.
Ken Marino
You want a tequila?
Mark Normand
I'd like a tequila as well.
Ken Marino
Yeah, just like a.
Mark Normand
A little.
Ken Marino
A gin and tonic.
Mark Normand
Okay.
Jonah Ray
Yeah, I'll do whiskey.
Ken Marino
No, no, no, really.
Jonah Ray
We have our own whiskey if you want to try it.
Ken Marino
No, I have a gin and tonic. I'm looking at you guys. I don't know what's going on.
David Wain
Whiskey makes things.
Mark Normand
But no, it's right there. Bodega cat.
Ken Marino
Wait, Bodega cat? Oh, you are Nick fans, or is that before?
Jonah Ray
That was before.
Mark Normand
It was before. Kismet.
David Wain
You know, we have.
Mark Normand
True. Yeah.
David Wain
We have our own beer coming out from Dogfish. Dogfish Head. Middle aged dad beer.
Mark Normand
Oh, hell yeah.
Ken Marino
Yeah, Dogfish Head.
Mark Normand
You guys are really leaning into the middle aged dad.
Ken Marino
I'll have some of your whiskey.
Mark Normand
All right. We got the big cubes. Everybody loves a big cube.
Jonah Ray
What are you doing?
Mark Normand
Well, I guess I'll go whiskey as well. I thought we were on a clear liquor train, but I think Dave wanted a tequila.
David Wain
Well, I'll have a little of those.
Mark Normand
Whiskey.
Ken Marino
So tell us, so what scale Daughtry in the celebrity Sex Pass movie is coming out? Tell us about that.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah, it looks good.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
We just had Thomas Lennon on talking about it.
David Wain
No, we did.
Mark Normand
Yeah, he was on last week.
David Wain
He's in it.
Mark Normand
I know. He was raving.
David Wain
Yeah.
Ken Marino
That's fantastic. Tom's a great guy.
Mark Normand
Funny as hell. Good egg.
David Wain
Great guy. Very talented.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Underrated. Wrote night at the museum, for Pete's sake.
Ken Marino
Writes novels, writes plays, screenplays.
Mark Normand
Has a house of Wisconsin on the lake.
Ken Marino
That's right.
Jonah Ray
You guys wrote this movie, right?
Ken Marino
That's correct.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Mark Normand
All right.
David Wain
We wrote it together, in fact.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
How was that? It was great.
Ken Marino
We've done it many times. We've written several movies together.
Mark Normand
What else?
Ken Marino
You guys didn't do any research?
Jonah Ray
Wow.
Mark Normand
We know about Molly. Shannon's in it.
Ken Marino
Nope, she's not.
Mark Normand
Damn it. The daughter.
Ken Marino
Molly. Shannon's.
Jonah Ray
No, he was on a show with Molly. The other two. Yeah, we know some stuff.
Ken Marino
That's okay. What's going on over here?
Mark Normand
I like the corduroy.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
David Wain
Ken Marino and I wrote some of these movies together. The 10. Wanderlust.
Mark Normand
I love models.
Jonah Ray
Nice.
Mark Normand
Whoa.
David Wain
Yep. And then this one. And then we've written some other ones that haven't gotten made.
Mark Normand
Wow.
Jonah Ray
For the celebrity sex. Pass, actually, to the celebrity sex pest.
Mark Normand
Yeah, those are.
Ken Marino
That.
Mark Normand
We.
Ken Marino
We rewrote those. Anything we've written has gotten produced.
Mark Normand
Hell, yeah. That's impressive. We. We just wrote a movie, and it's been a nightmare getting it through the machine.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Ken Marino
How are the reviews?
Mark Normand
Well, we haven't made it yet.
Jonah Ray
We're planning on shooting end of July.
David Wain
You're whiskey is great.
Mark Normand
Whoa. Thank you, Dave. Appreciate it.
Jonah Ray
Do you guys have a hard time getting a movie made and, like, finance and stuff?
David Wain
Yes.
Jonah Ray
It's crazy, right?
David Wain
This one took about 10 years. Wow.
Mark Normand
Oh, look at that guy. You got a. I think it's never sterling.
David Wain
Never easy.
Mark Normand
Thank you, sir.
Ken Marino
You see me in the back with the facial hair?
Mark Normand
Oh, I thought that was Joey Fatone.
Ken Marino
No, no. Looks like him now.
Mark Normand
And you got Bobby Lee. That's great.
Jonah Ray
You guys write a movie. Like Role Model Sundance. When you. Like, when you write a movie like that, like, you got. It was just you two, no one else.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
And when you kick it around, like, what's the. Like what's the. How do you start going?
David Wain
We have this thing we do. We get together for seven days. We have no idea. And then at the end of the seven days, we promise ourselves to come out with the first draft.
Ken Marino
And then we spend the next, you know, number of years honing it and rewriting it. And we continue to do that until the movie gets financed and then we gets made. And then we continue to do that in the edit editing process. And then until we lock picture, we're constantly rewriting. But those first seven days, we have a first draft.
Jonah Ray
Do you try to do, like a page count per day, or you just.
David Wain
20 pages a day.
Mark Normand
I love it.
Ken Marino
The first two days. First day, we break the idea. Second day we outline the idea. And then the third, and then the last five days, 20 pages a day.
Jonah Ray
Do you go away somewhere?
David Wain
We usually don't. We did at Ken's house.
Ken Marino
I feel like Wanderlust was at my house. The 10 was at your house.
David Wain
No, I think that was in New York.
Ken Marino
And then
David Wain
who knows?
Ken Marino
Yeah, I do. I do.
Mark Normand
What do you guys do when you hit a wall when you're just like,
Ken Marino
sometimes I break a knuckle. I did that one time. Just like Mitchell Robinson.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah. Big Mitch.
David Wain
Think about, like, if you're doing, like, a maze, right, and you're trapped in a maze, then you hit a wall, you got to go right or left.
Mark Normand
Yeah. So you just zigzag, Try something new
David Wain
Go back, take a walk.
Ken Marino
Well, you know the trick of getting through a maze, right? If you have all the time in the world, just put your hand on one wall and then just never let go of that wall. Just slide your hand and follow until you get out.
David Wain
I went to one of those mirror mazes at like a carnival or like an amusement park and got really lost. Could not get out.
Ken Marino
Same holds true with the mirror ones. Just put your hand on one wall. No fingerprints on the wall. I mean the mirror, but dirtied up.
Mark Normand
Can I ask a weird movie question?
Ken Marino
No.
David Wain
A weird booby question.
Mark Normand
Movie. Oh. So this, this Obsession and Back Rooms, you hear about this?
David Wain
Yeah.
Ken Marino
No.
David Wain
Yes.
Ken Marino
Oh, Obsession.
Mark Normand
Yeah, yeah, the movie. They're changing the game. It's a couple YouTube guys and they're saving theaters.
David Wain
Yep.
Mark Normand
They're making Hand Over Fist. They said Obsession. This much hasn't been made in 40 years in a movie.
Ken Marino
Yeah. Because it was made for under a million dollars and it's made 750.
David Wain
Well, soon the conversation is going to be this thing. It's Obsession backrooms and Gail Daughtry and the celebrity sex.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Because we made it for very little and good, apparently. A million. According for all the tabloids, it's going to make like 2 to 3 billion dollars.
Mark Normand
Holy shit.
David Wain
I heard under 2.
Ken Marino
You heard under 2 billion?
Mark Normand
Unbelievable.
Ken Marino
You're being conservative. But I think that once people get a hold of this movie, it's gonna make five to six billion dollars.
David Wain
Did you guys see that? I love the Obsession.
Mark Normand
I just saw it two nights ago.
David Wain
Yeah, me too.
Mark Normand
I had some problems with it, but I thought it was good.
David Wain
Okay.
Mark Normand
The acting with the. India is her name, the girl?
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Unbelievable.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
She's going far, she's going places. All right.
Ken Marino
All right.
Mark Normand
Incredible.
Ken Marino
Keep it in your pants.
Mark Normand
But one of the guys I thought was a such a bad actor took me out of it. And I have found eight plot holes in the movie that bugged me. But really good movie and it's all word of mouth. It did more money in the third week. In the first week.
David Wain
I think it's about the plot.
Ken Marino
Me say this about that movie. It's not realistic because if you make a wish, well, I really going to happen.
Mark Normand
I accepted that part.
Jonah Ray
I, you know, I don't like though I didn't see it. But my friend, my friend sent me a thing like every horror movie has this thing now where you like you're hitting your head with like a pan or. Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Ken Marino
Tom and Jerry. It Was originally invented by Tom and
Jonah Ray
Jerry for comedic effect, not to scare. But then there's another one where the head, like, kind of contorts, like. I don't, like, go. I don't like.
Ken Marino
It's like contours that scare you.
Jonah Ray
No, I'm just kind of like.
David Wain
I've seen it a million times about obsession is it. I think it consciously wasn't reinventing any wheel. It was just doing it really well and making it and having a great time with it, you know?
Mark Normand
I agree. I agree. I had a blast.
Jonah Ray
I'm gonna see it.
Mark Normand
Saw it in the theater. Jump scares. Everybody's freaking out. I looked around. Everybody's doing this shit. It was fun to see. And I'm not a huge horror guy, but it was. Yeah, moments of comedy in it, too. A lot of comedy.
Ken Marino
Funny. Well, the guy who did it is a comedian. You know, he's been. He was on.
David Wain
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Portlandia. Apparently did a lot of funny stuff on Portland. He comes to go back and watch Portlandia now, knowing that I've seen him. Yeah, there he is.
Mark Normand
Great guy, 26.
Ken Marino
He looks like Kerry Kenny's brother.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Got a little Daniel Sloss, too.
Jonah Ray
Look at those lips.
Mark Normand
I know.
David Wain
I wouldn't mind kissing him.
Mark Normand
Yeah. All right. I'm thinking about it.
David Wain
I'm good.
Mark Normand
But, yeah, very fun. And it's cool. It's all word of mouth. It's all just people talking and just shows. If you make something fun, people go see.
Jonah Ray
It's cool that a Star wars was
David Wain
in the radio business and he. They had a saying which is. It's in the grooves, meaning you can promote, promote, promote, but ultimately, it's got to be.
Ken Marino
Gotta be in the grooves. Meaning.
David Wain
Meaning if you got the good.
Ken Marino
The song's good. Maybe listen to that.
Mark Normand
That pop tune, Baby, Sing it.
Jonah Ray
I feel like Party down was kind of like that. That was like a word of mouth.
Ken Marino
That's a good segue. I thank you so much.
Mark Normand
I appreciate it. Great show.
Jonah Ray
Because I definitely. That was a show. I had friends who were like, you got to watch this show, and, you know, look how many people are on that one.
David Wain
I think a lot of stuff that we've both been associated with, both together and apart, has had that thing of, like. Not a ton of people saw it on a global scale, but the people who find it really spread it and feel loyal to it and feel ownership over it and. Oh, yeah, want to spread it around.
Mark Normand
This saved my relationship during COVID We ran. We watched everything on the earth, and we're like, what's this? Party Down. And then we fell in love with it.
Ken Marino
We discovered it during COVID Yeah, Party
Jonah Ray
down actually ruined my relationship during COVID It was weird. We were on the rocks.
Ken Marino
You think it was.
Jonah Ray
It was the last push that got.
Ken Marino
Yeah. Why? She didn't like it?
Jonah Ray
No, she liked. I was kidding.
Ken Marino
Did you see all three seasons?
Mark Normand
Yes, many times. A couple times. Yeah. We had to watch it over and over so we didn't have to talk.
David Wain
Second season. One of the episodes is directed by me.
Ken Marino
Yeah, the one with the play?
David Wain
Yeah, the.
Ken Marino
Where they do the play.
Mark Normand
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I fell off on that one. Oh, but good show all around. And what a cast. Yeah.
David Wain
Oh, don't get me started.
Mark Normand
Jane lynch is.
Jonah Ray
Do you ever look back at one of these movies and you're like, there's a couple where you're like, I wish I did this like differently. I don't. Maybe one you don't like as much as others do.
Ken Marino
I look back on my career and look specifically at movies or just any acting choice that I've made either. Yeah. You know, some of them are. Some of them are to. To pay the bills and some are more than that.
Jonah Ray
Which one it was to pay the bills.
Ken Marino
I mean it's, you know, pretty obvious when you like, you get an IMDb and you can go, someone paid the bills. And that one was because you, you know, he enjoyed it.
David Wain
Oh, look there. Those are all good ones.
Jonah Ray
You got a good one. These are good.
Ken Marino
Thank you.
David Wain
The babysitter. I don't know what that is.
Ken Marino
Oh, Babysitter is a fun horror movie. Fun comedy. G directed babysitter and babysitter two. Terrific director. I mean, good guy.
Mark Normand
And I have known you eastbound.
David Wain
Probably talk to you almost daily for the last four, 40 years.
Ken Marino
Yeah, I don't.
David Wain
I've definitely not seen all this stuff.
Jonah Ray
Dawson's Creek. Who are you on that?
Ken Marino
I was Professor Joey. Professor Wilder. I was having a. An affair with Joey. She went to college. A lot of people thought I was a creepy professor. There I am.
David Wain
That movie in a World is great. I just saw that. Not too long.
Ken Marino
There I am, good looking guy and I had a. And then I would quote Flo Bear to her. And then I can give you my first line of Dawson's Creek because I still remember it. And we shot it. I don't know when was Dawson's Creek when that come out? It was the only line that stuck in my head. I'm terrible at lines. But you say something. I'm a lit professor.
Jonah Ray
Sure.
Ken Marino
Okay, Professor. And I want you guys. You're one of my students, and you say something bad about Judy Blume. Let's see if I remember it.
Jonah Ray
Judy Blume, you know, it's kind of for kids.
Ken Marino
Hey, don't knock Judy Blume. Without her. Hey, don't knock Judy Bloom. Without her, my younger self would never have been able to decode the random acts of madness perpetrated by that fascinating creature known as the teenage boy. Girl.
David Wain
Great.
Ken Marino
Thank you. I almost had it. Perpetrated by the fascinating random acts of madness perpetrated by the fascinating creature known as the teenage boy.
David Wain
And cut. Ken, that was great. And let's just do another one, though. Just. We got it, but we'll. Let's try it again.
Ken Marino
Hey, don't knock Judy Bloom. Without her. My youngest.
David Wain
Losing light. Sorry.
Jonah Ray
Oh, just turned for a college professor to be teaching. Judy Blume.
Ken Marino
A lit professor.
Jonah Ray
Okay.
Ken Marino
Well, he wasn't. He was. He was teaching one of the. It was. Somebody mentioned Judy Bloom and somebody like this Judy Bloom, and he's like, hey, man.
David Wain
Yeah.
Ken Marino
And I think that that's what got Joey Potter a little. Oh, he likes Judy Bloom. He's not just a.
Jonah Ray
He's not pretentious.
Ken Marino
He like. He likes. He likes the girl novels. Young teen novels.
David Wain
So do you think about that?
Ken Marino
Do you remember Wifey?
David Wain
You were the screen love of a woman who in real life married Tom Cruise. AKA you are like Tom Cruise.
Ken Marino
Yeah, I think about that all the time. Yeah, I'm thinking about it right now, mostly because you just said it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mark Normand
I could see Tom Cruise. Fuck Brendan Fraser.
Jonah Ray
Oh, I could see that.
Ken Marino
You can see that. You can see Tom Cruise fucking Brendan
Mark Normand
Fraser right in front of me.
David Wain
I see it all the time whenever I go out.
Mark Normand
I see it when I close my
David Wain
eyes whenever I go to the. The.
Mark Normand
That's not a bad combo to look like Tom Cruise and Brendan Frazier. I'm talking pre whale.
Ken Marino
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jonah Ray
We didn't think the whale.
Mark Normand
Okay, okay. I'm not. I'm talking school ties.
Ken Marino
You're talking Tarzan.
Mark Normand
Yeah, yeah.
David Wain
What about Delirious with Elizabeth?
Ken Marino
What about Mommy Hurley? What?
David Wain
Elizabeth Hurley, Delirious member Elizabeth Hurley.
Ken Marino
And Delirious.
Mark Normand
Delirious is Eddie Murphy. Bedazzled. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Ken Marino
Come on.
Mark Normand
That's all Marino.
Ken Marino
Oh, my God.
David Wain
Look at that. I was also in a movie called Delirious, though.
Mark Normand
Oh, weird.
Ken Marino
Yeah, it's a little more of an independent movie.
David Wain
Yeah, that's right. It was.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
David Wain
Boy, Gina Gershon, who is being celebrated at this Tribeca film festival for the 30th anniversary of the movie Bound with Christopher.
Ken Marino
Oh, my God.
Jonah Ray
One of the great movies.
Mark Normand
Great Grace.
Ken Marino
Amazing Joe Pantaleone is amazing.
Jonah Ray
Like a farce almost, too.
Ken Marino
It's like Jennifer Tilly and Gina. Oh, my God.
David Wain
Great film.
Ken Marino
Great movie.
Jonah Ray
Watch Bound.
Mark Normand
I will.
Ken Marino
Great, great movie. That's one. I. I keep telling my son, you
Jonah Ray
got to watch it.
Ken Marino
And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'll get around to it. I'm like, you got to watch it. It's really good.
Jonah Ray
I feel like the 90s had so many of those, like, hidden.
Mark Normand
Awesome.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
David Wain
Like, oh, my God.
Jonah Ray
There was a run of Lost.
Mark Normand
Like, yeah, simple plan.
David Wain
Yeah, Great.
Mark Normand
Great movie.
Ken Marino
It was a book that was really big. The movie came out. Who directed it? You had weird tone.
Mark Normand
This was really great.
Ken Marino
But one of the. One of the most tense scenes in that movie is insane. That, like, tense scene in the middle with the gun and. Oh, yeah, incredible. And then Billy Bob Thornton is unbelievable.
Mark Normand
Unbelievable, dude.
Jonah Ray
That monologue in the car.
Ken Marino
Unbelievable.
Jonah Ray
Beautiful. Yeah. I feel like the 90s had these types of movies. Like, another one's like Red Rock west, that's another Sleep. And I feel like it's kind of coming back now. I feel like indie films are going
Mark Normand
to have a resurgence, I think so.
David Wain
What was the movie. The indie film about making a movie with Steve Boucher, Jemmy that was directed.
Ken Marino
It's two words. It's two words. Peter Dinklage is in it.
David Wain
Peter Dinklage.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Yeah.
Ken Marino
Living in Oblivion.
Mark Normand
Yeah, it's a good one.
David Wain
I think it's the best movie about making a movie that there is.
Ken Marino
Yeah, but also, what about the Kevin
David Wain
Costner One last time I looked up Living in Oblivion, I wanted to show it somebody. It's nowhere. It's gone.
Mark Normand
Really?
David Wain
You can't stream it.
Jonah Ray
Well, give us some advice, because this is really the first time we've made
Mark Normand
a movie together to be. Yeah. What do you got? Anything? We don't know what the hell we're doing. Well, also, great movie.
Jonah Ray
It looks like late July right now.
Ken Marino
Yeah, you got. You got.
Mark Normand
Yeah, we got money, believe it or not.
David Wain
All right. Are you to the stars of it?
Mark Normand
Yeah, yeah, unfortunately.
David Wain
Who's directing?
Ken Marino
Is that for sure?
Mark Normand
Yeah, unless you guys. You can play me.
David Wain
Intern at our. On our show, the State.
Mark Normand
Oh, really?
David Wain
Something like that.
Jonah Ray
Get your shine box, dude.
Mark Normand
Wow. He's been around that long?
David Wain
He was a little kid at that time.
Ken Marino
Really?
Mark Normand
Wow.
Jonah Ray
How old is he?
Mark Normand
I know.
Jonah Ray
He looks young as fuck.
Mark Normand
I thought he was 34.
David Wain
He probably. He might be.
Mark Normand
Okay. Yeah. There he is. How cute is he?
David Wain
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Oh, yes.
Jonah Ray
Or any advice you have making a
David Wain
movie, get there, you know, on time.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
David Wain
In the morning.
Mark Normand
Okay.
David Wain
Tell, like, talk to all the crew and call them by their first name.
Mark Normand
Okay. And this is any job so far.
David Wain
Follow your mute. I don't know.
Mark Normand
Come on.
Ken Marino
Well, hold on, hold on. So you wrote the script?
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Yes.
Ken Marino
You feel good about the story?
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Yes.
Ken Marino
So you're ready to go?
Mark Normand
It's a joke a second.
Jonah Ray
It's a lot like Bound, but with two men.
Ken Marino
Okay, so, yeah. So you're going to shoot it. How long is the shoot?
Jonah Ray
I think like 18 to 20 days.
Ken Marino
So it's a short shoot.
Mark Normand
Quick.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Running guns.
Ken Marino
21 days. So you're running and gunning. Just make sure in pre production that every, every, you know, whoever your first ad is, you really kind of taking care of, like where the locations are. Make sure that that guy keeps the train running. And then you go over. Up leading up to that. Go over the script so it's nice and tight and you believe in it and you know what it is. And don't waver. Stick to what you believe is funny and shoot it in those 18 days and don't stop believing until you get to edit. And then you're gonna edit it and you're gonna then rip it apart and try new things because some of that shit's not gonna work. But you're still gonna stay focused and you're gonna work through the moments where you're like, oh, this isn't exactly what we thought it was gonna be. And you're gonna fix it and you're gonna still believe in it and you're gonna work hard on it and never give up. And then until you lock picture and lock sound, you believe in that movie and then you put it out there and then you wash your hands of the whole goddamn thing and walk away.
David Wain
But I would say that was really well said, I think. But I would also say that you got 18 days to shoot a movie. Spend every second you can between now and then trying to figure stuff out. Because when the clock's going, you're not gonna have much time. But now you have time to listen to it, read it out loud, rehearse, talk about it, break it down, think about what you might cut out in editing and don't shoot it. Like, you know, like, try make those decisions. Think about those things now in pre production. Because when you get to set, there's no Time.
Ken Marino
There's no time. So you don't talk about shit. You got to shoot it.
David Wain
Yeah.
Ken Marino
So pre production is super important. Do all your work, get it all, answer all your questions, have every decision made.
David Wain
And so that when you get to set, if something changes, you have an inspiration. Great. But if you just stick to exactly your plan as you have it, you got something.
Jonah Ray
When you're directing a movie, like role models, that's way bigger. What's the difference between that and one of these smaller movies?
David Wain
Actually, there's obviously much more time and money, but to riff and stuff, you mean? Sort of. But ultimately it's less different than I thought it would be. It's basically the same idea. You're with your cameraman and your cast and your crew, and you're trying to just figure out what, okay, let's shoot this like this. The only difference is, yeah, if you want, you can just be like, okay, now let's keep rolling and try more things. And, you know, just keep going and going.
Mark Normand
If you.
David Wain
Yeah, but sometimes I find that limitation is helpful, you know, to.
Mark Normand
Sure.
David Wain
Just endlessly do things.
Ken Marino
Just believe in the. You wrote.
Mark Normand
Okay, go over it.
Ken Marino
Don't be like, we'll figure that out. We're on set. Figure it out. Figure out how you want it to look. Talk about it with each other.
Mark Normand
The tone and everything.
Ken Marino
The tone. Even visually, like, what you're thinking about
David Wain
it with your director and your dp.
Ken Marino
Yeah. Get your DP and be like, here's. Here's how I see it. Pull up references of other movies and be like, this is what I want it to look like.
David Wain
And don't. And, yeah, you don't want to get on set and you see what they've got set up and you're like, oh, that's not quite what I had in mind. Yeah, now it's a little late to,
Ken Marino
like, here, you know, make sure that the person who is running your. The production design, your wardrobe people, your DP and your ad, and you guys are all on the same page in terms of look, look, visual look. It's a visual medium. So everybody knows exactly what the movie is going to look like prior to showing up on day one. And you're all on the same page because you don't want to have that fucking conversation where, like David was saying, you walk on set and you're like, this is not. No, no, The. The. The beer cans are supposed to be, like, super big, not regular sized. And they're like, you didn't say that. And, like. And then all of a sudden, you're scrambling it.
Mark Normand
Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
David Wain
That said, though.
Mark Normand
Got it.
David Wain
You do happen to get to set and something really is off. Don't be afraid to be like, sorry, I know it wastes time, but we got to fix it.
Mark Normand
This. Yes, speak up. Okay, that helps.
Jonah Ray
That's helpful.
Mark Normand
Thank you, guys.
Ken Marino
And then at the end of the movie, of course, you gotta put a card up that says Finn and hell yeah.
David Wain
Special thanks to Ken Marino and David Wayne.
Mark Normand
Oh, shit.
Ken Marino
Not particularly in that order, but I
Jonah Ray
do like for sure.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
David Wain
This is a consultation that we give other filmmakers and we usually get 10% gross for it. For you 5.
Mark Normand
All right, all right. We'll get some money together. We put it all in the movie.
Jonah Ray
You should see the points we've already had to give up on this shit.
Ken Marino
Yeah, all in the movie except for the 5%.
Mark Normand
All right. Okay.
Jonah Ray
Who was helping you guys with this when. When you were starting? Who's giving you advice on making movies?
David Wain
Each other. Yeah. Our mentors a lot were each other because we were in this group of 11 of us that we met in college. And so we learned a lot from teaching each other and stuff. But I didn't. I didn't have.
Ken Marino
A lot of. You went to film school and, you know, we went to. We went to a school where we learned how to act and produce and write. And then we were in a sketch comedy group where we luckily got our own TV show coming out of college. And we sort of sell, like, as Dave was saying, we were like, thrown into the deep end. And we just learned as it was happening.
Mark Normand
Damn. But pretty great. You got a show that quick, that's got to feel lucky.
David Wain
Very cool situation with MTV was a growing network. Yeah, we had an in there and it was just like, happened to fall into really good timing over there.
Ken Marino
Now, you guys are very young, so I'm wondering, do you even know what show we're talking about?
David Wain
The state.
Ken Marino
Okay.
Mark Normand
I used to watch it. I still remember the scene with the.
Ken Marino
I didn't know about him.
Mark Normand
Oh, I was a big fan.
Ken Marino
All right.
Mark Normand
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Mark Normand
That was about when I dropped off after that. But no, but I still remember a lot of the jokes.
David Wain
The State was the best shit.
Mark Normand
And then it was great.
David Wain
Since the mid-90s, we've been sort of coasting on that.
Mark Normand
That's what I was gonna ask. Like, you're behind the camera. Yeah, you're in front of the camera. When you get a show, like, party down, are you like, oh, thank God I have a gig. I have a stable gig for a minute. And then when you're in a movie, you're like, hey, I gotta. I gotta do this movie. But then what do you do in the downtime? Because we can just go hit the road, do stand up. You guys get nervous. When's my next job?
Jonah Ray
Tour a little bit?
Ken Marino
No, I don't do well.
David Wain
We tour with our band now.
Ken Marino
But you do.
Jonah Ray
Didn't do a tour with the State.
Ken Marino
The State did a tour, but that was you did a tour one. No, no, like two years ago. Oh, you did like
Jonah Ray
Brian. Brian Hubbard's my tour manager. So he said he worked with you guys.
Ken Marino
Yeah, we did a small. It was not a small number of
David Wain
shows, but they were big. They were big fun shows in big venue. We did the Nokia Theater in Times Square.
Mark Normand
Nice.
David Wain
But we didn't do a lot of shows. We ended up not doing a lot of shows.
Ken Marino
And. And so. So the question is what, What?
Mark Normand
Like, do you get nervous?
Ken Marino
You have, are you happy to get a show and are you like.
Mark Normand
And then when it goes away.
David Wain
Answer you, Ken. Yes. Gets nervous.
Mark Normand
Okay.
David Wain
After a 40 years of working consistently, he still is never sure if he's going to have another job. Yeah, I don't do that as much.
Mark Normand
You're not nervous?
David Wain
I just sort of feel like, what can I do?
Mark Normand
Yeah. Very Zen.
David Wain
I do go long periods without working, though.
Mark Normand
I know that's nerve wracking.
Ken Marino
And what do you do? The answer is you start a band.
David Wain
I start a band.
Mark Normand
There you go.
Ken Marino
Direct a play.
David Wain
I do. We always got projects of different types going. Most of them are not lucrative, but sometimes one soul fulfilling works out. Yeah. But I would say I have my. I personally have favored doing something that's creative and with people that I want to work with over something that's making money. And that's how it's worked out.
Mark Normand
Nice.
Ken Marino
Can I put my foot up in here?
Mark Normand
Of course.
Ken Marino
I know this is a nice piece of donut.
Jonah Ray
Nice.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah, it's ikea.
Ken Marino
Did the tape originally come with it
Mark Normand
or is that we found on the sidewalk? So there you go. Look at that.
Ken Marino
I thought it was four drawers, but it's just one. It looks like four.
Mark Normand
That's how they get you. Oh. Oh, yeah.
Ken Marino
That's how they get you.
Jonah Ray
Like eastbound and down when you get a gig. I mean, that must be awesome to get a gig like that. Especially when. When the show is like already proven as being hilarious.
Ken Marino
Yes.
Jonah Ray
But is it also stressful going in? You're like, this is such a good show.
David Wain
But they brought in the ringer.
Ken Marino
I.
Jonah Ray
Well, he killed it. But I'm just saying going in.
Mark Normand
I know.
Ken Marino
I mean, look at the time. I was a huge fan of the show.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Ken Marino
And I thought Danny McBride was like the funniest guy and still do think he's the funniest guy around.
Mark Normand
Right.
Ken Marino
So I got a. I got an email or a phone call or email from him being like, would you want to. No, I know I put myself on tape. I put my I went in an audition or I put. Put myself on tape. Then I got a call from him, and he was like, so we want you to do the thing. Will you. Would you ride it? Do a jetpack? And I was like, yeah, of course. And so. And then. And then that was the reason I. That's. That was the only thing that he said to me. And I was like, yeah, I'll do a jetpack over there. And then was I nervous. I don't know. I. I wanted to do right by, you know, those guys, Jody and Danny, and. And. And so I tried to do, you know, the best I could. I came in prepared and I tried to create some sort of character that they, you know, lean into the character that they created. And it was a really good one. It was a fun. It was a fun one, you know, I mean, it was a good part.
Jonah Ray
It was a great part. You killed. I mean that. I feel like that show didn't really strike a false note ever. Like some people on season two, But I love season two. I think it's like season two is Mexico.
Ken Marino
Mexico. Yeah. No, they're all good. I will say, personally, I think one is the best, and I think my season is. I think it's number two for me.
David Wain
Another great show, by the way. Breaking Bad.
Mark Normand
Sure.
David Wain
No, I'm saying it's a great show.
Ken Marino
No, it's a great.
Jonah Ray
You were great.
David Wain
No, I'm not in that either.
Jonah Ray
No, you.
Mark Normand
You were good. You killed it. Yeah, you're good. Sopranos, good show. We just listen. Good shows. Yeah, Great show.
Ken Marino
Yeah. Honeymooners and.
Mark Normand
Not bad. All about domestic abuse.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Mark Normand
And we still loved it.
Ken Marino
No.
Jonah Ray
To the moon. What about Far, dude, it's hard to hit you guys.
David Wain
Don't forget about plays like King Lear. You guys completely forgot about this.
Ken Marino
Also commercials, like, people on commercials. But some of them are really funny. Where's the beef?
David Wain
And like, me throwing that. I'm crying. Throwing the jersey.
Mark Normand
I must be in the front row.
Ken Marino
That guy, right?
Jonah Ray
Catch the was up commercial.
Ken Marino
Those are bangers, you know, so when you hit it, you hit.
David Wain
You're forgetting about all the promos. Like, hey, up next, it's the NBA All Stars.
Ken Marino
Let's not forget about just. Just your music in general, you know?
David Wain
Oh, my God.
Ken Marino
You got the Rolling Stones. You got the.
Mark Normand
God, what a list. British invasion. Oh, Titanic.
Ken Marino
Right.
Mark Normand
Hey, don't forget, bud.
David Wain
Flat duo.
Mark Normand
Thank you.
Jonah Ray
Classic.
David Wain
Do you guys do that kind of thing on the road?
Jonah Ray
We do a lot of commercial talk.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
We try to incorporate the audience.
Ken Marino
Do you Open up with the. Do you guys. So you do you do a, a two man show? No, no. You do you separately for stand up and so who. When you go out and do shows, right. And do you. Are you ever building the same like
Mark Normand
night and a club in New York will.
Jonah Ray
Yeah. Like Comedy Central.
Ken Marino
Like if one guy opens earlier, you know, for the other guy, do you like rib them about it? Like I open for you.
David Wain
I bet you anything. And tell me if I'm wrong. I may be wrong. Do you ever do a show like a stand up show, some city, some town you're going to?
Ken Marino
Yeah. And then doesn't matter.
David Wain
What town, doesn't matter. And then someone does. Anybody in the audience, have they heard you on this, on this podcast?
Jonah Ray
Not usually, no.
David Wain
It's got it never. No. Okay.
Jonah Ray
They're like, we know you from Imus. That's what we usually get.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
John Imus.
Ken Marino
We were big on imus66 wnbc. Is that what it was? Yeah, yeah.
David Wain
I was, I was more into 1010 wins.
Ken Marino
Yeah, yeah.
Mark Normand
Ah, yes. What about Cars for Kids? Oh, great tune.
David Wain
Please don't get me started.
Ken Marino
Give it to me. 1-800-7-sell cars for kids.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
I think it turned out to be a scam.
David Wain
Yeah. By origin, by the way. What part?
Jonah Ray
Manhattan originally.
Mark Normand
Where?
Jonah Ray
Originally Chelsea, then Upper east side.
David Wain
How about that?
Jonah Ray
How about you?
Ken Marino
Oh, you're a New Yorker. New Yorker.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Yeah, maybe.
Jonah Ray
Where are you guys?
David Wain
I'm from Cleveland, Ohio, but I lived in Manhattan for 26 years.
Ken Marino
I grew up on Long island and then lived in Manhattan for from college until I was 30.
Mark Normand
Hey, the 90s.
Ken Marino
Yes sir.
Mark Normand
Was it all they say it was and more. The hookers.
David Wain
The hookers and blow are great.
Mark Normand
Yeah. The Times Square, the porno.
Ken Marino
I mean that was there. It was changing.
David Wain
It was changing Right when we got
Ken Marino
here, that was all not Disney Disneyfied.
David Wain
It was just starting and it was
Ken Marino
startling for a, you know, you know, 18 year old teenage suburban boy.
David Wain
Yeah, it was startling. And then the change was starting.
Mark Normand
Got it. So you got the little of both.
Ken Marino
Yeah, it's wordplay.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
I got here at 0708 and I
Ken Marino
don't remember you getting here.
Mark Normand
I didn't, I didn't make a splash really. But I got mugged three times.
Ken Marino
Oh yeah.
Mark Normand
And I remember the East Village was still had that heroin chic, you know, you had Mars Bar and all those old pieces.
Jonah Ray
Square was cool. Yeah. The rats are still out at night.
David Wain
Two boots.
Ken Marino
That's right.
Mark Normand
Oh yeah, I ate there many times.
Jonah Ray
Just Close Two boots to go cozy souping.
David Wain
Burgers closing this month.
Mark Normand
Dude, I saw that.
Ken Marino
I filmed Two boots is closed on everywhere.
David Wain
On Avenue.
Ken Marino
Yeah, on avenue A. No.
Jonah Ray
Stupid burgers closing. That's a brutal one.
Mark Normand
That one hurts.
David Wain
We're thinking about going to lunch there tomorrow for the last time.
Jonah Ray
Classic.
Mark Normand
That's a great idea. I might do the same.
Ken Marino
I'm probably gonna get the cheeseburger deluxe with fries. Dude, usually what I get is cheeseburger. What I got when we went to college is cheeseburger deluxe with fries. And put some gravy on those fries.
David Wain
Wait a minute. What about the split pea soup?
Jonah Ray
That's what I get.
David Wain
Yeah, there's soup and burger.
Mark Normand
What about the mo Pitkins? Remember that place? Oh, that was a great bar. I saw Jimmy Fallon there once.
Ken Marino
What about drunk bistro?
Mark Normand
Still there.
Jonah Ray
Still there.
Mark Normand
That's a great area. Yeah, that's west.
David Wain
My favorite memories. Corner bistro was during the great blackout in 2003. Every whole city was shut down. They had the gas grill going and they were passing out burgers for free.
Jonah Ray
Damn.
Mark Normand
You ever got mugged in this town?
Ken Marino
I got a gentleman mug, which was.
Mark Normand
I said, good day.
Ken Marino
I went up town to meet my girlfriend at the time's father at a museum. And I got out of the subway and I was sort of dressed. I tried to dress nicer. You know, I could put on the nicest jacket I had. It was a long coat, and it was like. Sort of like the fall. And I went. And I saw a guy clock me as I got out of the subway. And I'm walking up the thing, and I could see him following me. And I got a little nervous because I was new to the city. It was like, you know, first couple of years I was there, and I got out and I made a wrong turn and go to a busy street. Walking down the side street, and he walked up to me and he goes, hey, hey, hey, hey. And I turn around and he goes. He goes, hey, hey, man. And I go, hey, hey. And he grabbed my hand and he's shaking my hand. He goes, how much money do you have? And I was like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. He goes, why don't you take out your wallet and tell me how much money you have and give it to me? And I was like, okay, you did it. Yeah. I was scared shitless. And so then I took out my wallet and I gave him my money. And he goes, thank you. And then he left.
Mark Normand
Wow.
Ken Marino
Gentleman mugging.
Jonah Ray
Was he a Scary looking guy.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Oh, okay. I bet he walked away. I was like, I can't believe that.
Ken Marino
No, I was petrified.
David Wain
You think he had.
Ken Marino
He's a big man.
David Wain
He had the backup.
Ken Marino
Yeah, he had big hands.
Mark Normand
Acidic Jew.
Ken Marino
When he grabbed my hand, I was like, oh, he can crush me.
Mark Normand
Oh.
David Wain
So do you think he just looks like, I'm gonna go out in half an hour and get a few thousand bucks?
Ken Marino
Looks like, yeah. He's like, there's no reason to beat the out of this guy. I'll just take his money.
Mark Normand
That feels like an impractical joker.
David Wain
Somebody like your size.
Mark Normand
Yeah. You're not a little man.
Ken Marino
I mean, I was the same height, but I was like 20 pounds.
David Wain
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Lighter. I was a teenager. I mean, I was.
Mark Normand
Okay. Okay.
Jonah Ray
Now you don't know. Who knows MMA, though? That guy could just shake a guy's hand and just get the shit kicked out of him.
Ken Marino
Yeah, maybe.
Mark Normand
Wow.
Ken Marino
But sure, I think the risk, I guess, if you need the money.
Mark Normand
I get it. Scary. But you. I think you could have walked away from that. I had a guy come up to you once. I don't know.
Ken Marino
Maybe I would have now.
Mark Normand
I would have, Yeah.
Ken Marino
I would have just been like, yeah, yeah, sure. And then this. Ran, but I didn't know where. I was up 10.
Mark Normand
Ah.
Ken Marino
So I could have ran, you know, I could have been running in the wrong direction.
Jonah Ray
No. Did you tell the girl and the dad that happened, or did you keep it?
Ken Marino
I think so. I think I was like, I think I just got mugged.
Mark Normand
How much money?
Ken Marino
I didn't have a lot of money at the time. It was, you know, maybe it was like 60 bucks.
Mark Normand
60. 60. That's like 5 mil.
Jonah Ray
But also, that's. You can't really mug anymore. You'd have to make them go to like a ATM or something.
Mark Normand
Good point.
Ken Marino
That is the. That is true. There's a. It's. It's.
Mark Normand
I had a hobo with Venmo recently.
David Wain
Electronic.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Yeah. I had a guy come up to me. I was eating with my wife, and this guy came up with his kid and he's like, we need some money. I was like, yeah, we're good, we're good. He goes, you got any cash? I was like, I have no cash. He goes, I take Venmo. And I went. So I had to Venmo him. He had a little placard with his. With his handle on it.
David Wain
Jesus.
Mark Normand
He got me.
Jonah Ray
So he's got a phone?
Mark Normand
Yeah, hobo's have phones.
David Wain
Report that to Venmo.
Ken Marino
Oh, you didn't think about that, did you? I mean, I see you're thinking about it now.
Mark Normand
I wonder if I can pull that back.
Ken Marino
Context clues.
Mark Normand
Chin rub. Yep, that'll do it.
Ken Marino
And then also, he's a good actor vocally. You're going, huh?
David Wain
He is a good actor. You should make a movie in July.
Mark Normand
That's the plan.
Ken Marino
Do all the prep work before you start shooting. You won't have any time.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
David Wain
Stop lecturing him. Just let him have fun.
Mark Normand
Thank you. Appreciate that. Hold on. I had to think about the bugging. Oh, yeah. I had a guy come up to me in the village, and he goes, run your pockets. That's what he kept saying. See here? Run your pockets. He was completely shithouse. He was like, run your pocket. And I was like, oh, God. And then it hit me, like, wait, this is just a guy he's trashed? And I went, nah. And I just kept walking. And he was like, all right. So it just goes to show you,
David Wain
like, go to the next guy.
Mark Normand
It's scary at first, but then when. When it all hits you like, this is reality. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not giving you shit.
David Wain
Reason to bail. He will.
Jonah Ray
You just have to. Also, you just have to read the situation. If someone's giving you a bad vibe, you just got to walk away.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
I was on the train with Outside Steve from the. We're on the train. There's a crazy guy fucking with people, and he's like. He just fucks with them back. And I was like, what are you doing?
Mark Normand
That's crazy.
Jonah Ray
We're going to get fucking. Like, that's. You go to the other car.
Mark Normand
Yeah. There's no. No upside to that. Yeah. What, are you going to change the guy's mind?
Jonah Ray
It was fun. It was fun. He got sodomized, but it was.
David Wain
It was so fun.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Sometimes that's fine.
Jonah Ray
It was.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
David Wain
Sometimes it can be.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Mark Normand
He's a gay man Outside Steve. Friend.
Ken Marino
Yeah. Well, we really shut it down with that comment.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah. You guys. I guess homophobic.
Jonah Ray
Well, the movie's coming out. That's.
Ken Marino
Yeah, the movie's coming out. Yeah.
Mark Normand
Yeah, yeah.
Ken Marino
Movie in the Celebrity Sex Pass.
David Wain
It's in theaters July 10th.
Ken Marino
I don't know.
David Wain
When does this come out all over the world?
Mark Normand
Two weeks.
David Wain
I mean, all over the city.
Ken Marino
Comes out in two weeks. This show?
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Oh, yeah. So Gail Daughtry and a celebrity sex pass coming out July 10th.
Mark Normand
Hell, yeah.
David Wain
Do you wanna know what it's about?
Mark Normand
Please.
David Wain
It's about a Woman who lives in the Midwest, and she has a celebrity pass agreement with her fiance.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah.
David Wain
Which means that, you know, he can have sex with a particular celebrity if he happens to have the chance. As it turns out, he does have the chance, and he takes it literally and he does it. And it puts this woman, Gail Daughtry, played by Zoe Deutsch, into a little bit of a situation. So she ends up in Los Angeles where a psychic convinces her that she needs to even the score by finding her celebrity past John Hamm. And then she goes on this journey, epic journey, to go find Jon Hamm and him.
Mark Normand
Oh, fun. That's a great premise. Yeah, I'm hooked.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Now I gotta know if she ham.
Ken Marino
Well, you're gonna have to tune in.
David Wain
You're gonna have to know what happens. You have to buy a ticket.
Ken Marino
Buy a ticket to the film.
Jonah Ray
Let's go see it, dude.
Mark Normand
Let's do it.
Jonah Ray
We're going July 10th, please.
Ken Marino
Theaters are going to tell everybody on this podcast to do the same.
Jonah Ray
We will buy a ticket to see this movie.
Mark Normand
Yes.
Jonah Ray
What's a lot of theaters it's opening up in or what?
David Wain
Like, decent number of theaters.
Mark Normand
Yeah, Theaters are back, baby.
David Wain
People are going out classics every be all over the country.
Ken Marino
If you like to laugh, and I could tell that you guys like to laugh, see exhibit A.
Mark Normand
Love that.
Ken Marino
Context clues. I could tell because he laughed. Go see this movie.
David Wain
And I have a little bit of an announcement. This is exclusive to this podcast.
Ken Marino
Oh, shit, here we go.
David Wain
Tickets for the movie are going to be available on Internet.
Mark Normand
Oh, gosh. Wow. This is blowing my mind.
Ken Marino
Breaking news.
Mark Normand
All right. Very exciting.
Ken Marino
And what do you think they're gonna go for?
David Wain
Well, I have a special deal just for your listeners, please. You buy, pay for the full price for two tickets. You get two tickets.
Jonah Ray
Promo code wmbd. Yeah, you might be drunk. Use that code, guys.
Mark Normand
Yes. Now, what's the back end deal? What are we talking? See, we got.
Ken Marino
Well, we'll get into that.
Mark Normand
All right.
Ken Marino
On a different show.
Jonah Ray
Okay.
Mark Normand
I mean, when we come back, is theater. We don't know anything.
David Wain
Here's how the movie business works. If you pay, say, 12 for a movie ticket at the theater, 11 goes to me and Ken.
Mark Normand
Wow, that's pretty damn good.
David Wain
Split among, like, the theater and distributor show and advertising. Marketing. Yeah.
Mark Normand
Well, we're going hopefully, I think, to a streamer.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
I don't know what the plan is. Yeah, I don't even shot it yet. We have no idea.
Mark Normand
Theaters are scary now and then I
Jonah Ray
Assume comedies are a little scary. When's the last big comedy? I think that's what Naked Gun. That was.
Mark Normand
That was a good one.
Jonah Ray
But that was an existing IP already.
Ken Marino
Listen, I'm just. I'm just answering your questions, man. I don't want to fight about it. Just answer. You asked a question. I answered it, man.
Mark Normand
That's true.
David Wain
I would say don't worry about where it's gonna come out yet. Just worry about making a good movie.
Mark Normand
Yeah, I like that.
Jonah Ray
I like that for you. I like that.
Ken Marino
Do it for you.
Jonah Ray
But we are. We're not making on this. No, we're doing it because we want to make a movie.
Ken Marino
We're not making any on this movie.
David Wain
We never make any money. It doesn't matter.
Ken Marino
Is that what you're doing it?
Mark Normand
No, no, no, not at all.
Jonah Ray
We're pumped to make a movie and
David Wain
we don't do stand up and we don't have a podcast, so it's all got milk.
Mark Normand
Another great commercial. You yourself, maybe, I think.
Ken Marino
Well, it sounded a little merced.
Mark Normand
Get a bar rag, will you?
Ken Marino
I'll let you know if he himself by what comes over to me.
Jonah Ray
I'll smell it.
Mark Normand
I got a whip.
Jonah Ray
Smell it too. I'm close.
Mark Normand
I've been eating.
Ken Marino
That's a day that's dangerously wet.
David Wain
Do you do that thing when you're like, oh. And they're like, oh, Sunday brunch.
Mark Normand
Yeah, I could if you want.
David Wain
We all should.
Ken Marino
Here's the thing. I now get to experience your insides. Like, basically, you farted.
Mark Normand
Yes.
Ken Marino
That odor and the little particles from that odor floating in the air. I'm inhaling it. It's going into me now.
David Wain
I don't like this.
Ken Marino
And so to you, I say thank you.
Mark Normand
You're welcome.
Jonah Ray
He delivered that. Like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, too.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
That was beautiful.
Ken Marino
Thank you. But I would argue, if we're in a sim, I'll tell you that.
Jonah Ray
Okay.
Ken Marino
After this medicine of podcasts, of farting,
Mark Normand
I would argue I have the boxer and pantaloon filter going.
Ken Marino
Oh, so you filled.
Mark Normand
But you're not getting coffee grinds in the coffee.
Ken Marino
Like, this is. But. But this isn't. They're not like those masks that we wore during COVID This is more shit'll come through it.
Mark Normand
No. What am I wearing fishnets?
Ken Marino
I don't know. You tell me.
David Wain
It's probably.
Mark Normand
Let me check. It might be.
David Wain
I have medical grade undies.
Ken Marino
Oh, you do. You got like 800.
David Wain
Well, I make them out of the old masks that I never Used during COVID Oh, yes.
Jonah Ray
Gas molecules pass directly through your pants, which is why you can smell a fart.
Ken Marino
Fabric essentially acts as an odor filter.
Mark Normand
Thank you, Filter.
Ken Marino
If you're worried about the gems or solid matter, clothing serves as an effective shield. Research shows that unaffected flatulence can produce microscopic particles outward. Wearing clothing completely blocks the particles from escaping.
Mark Normand
Well, all right.
Ken Marino
David Gross, filtering your farts.
Mark Normand
You're welcome.
David Wain
Not wait until we move on to the next thing, whatever it is.
Mark Normand
Oh, I don't know.
Jonah Ray
This is the second half of the podcast.
Ken Marino
Let's get back to Gail Daughtry and the celebrity sex pest. The reason we're here, Guys.
Jonah Ray
You guys will mix it up. But we usually talk about Mark's ass at this point.
Ken Marino
Yeah, we can. I have to mix it up.
Mark Normand
How cool is John Slattery?
Ken Marino
He's the chorus.
David Wain
So funny. He plays himself in this movie.
Mark Normand
What?
David Wain
Yes.
Ken Marino
He plays a version of him.
David Wain
It's about a group of people that are looking for Jon Hamm, one of which is the real life John Slattery. Plus Ben Wong, he's the new Karate Kid. He's a great guy.
Mark Normand
Whoa.
David Wain
We've got Miles Gutierrez Riley, Sabrina Pachatori. I mean, it's an amazing cast. Joe Latrulo's in it, and Mather Zickel and.
Mark Normand
Oh, wow.
Jonah Ray
Nice.
David Wain
And a whole bunch of the same people.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Latrulo, Le Trulio. He's good.
David Wain
Yeah. A lot of surprises.
Mark Normand
Zoe.
Jonah Ray
I met her at Birch and Shaq show in la.
Mark Normand
Oh, really?
Jonah Ray
She's really cool.
Ken Marino
How'd that work out?
Jonah Ray
I didn't do great.
Ken Marino
What happened?
Jonah Ray
It was forced. It was a crowd work show.
David Wain
La.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
No, I think it's just at a certain. It's hard to do crowd work. Crowd work, crowd work. Every comic, it's like you want to throw a joke.
David Wain
That's weird.
Jonah Ray
It was tough. Yeah.
David Wain
They shouldn't do.
Jonah Ray
I got a few zings on Shaq.
Mark Normand
There you go.
Jonah Ray
It's cool to meet Shaq.
Mark Normand
Yeah, sure.
Jonah Ray
His hand. Talk about a fucking handshake.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
He mugged you.
Ken Marino
Did he get any money from.
Jonah Ray
No money, but he could have broken my fucking hand.
Ken Marino
Sure.
David Wain
Upset Shaq could do that everywhere.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
David Wain
Take that.
Ken Marino
Thank you so much. Oh, no. Oh, that's what happened. The guy. No, he didn't grab my hand in the beginning. He goes, how much money you got? And I'm standing there, I'm shaking, and he goes. And I take it out and he goes, give it to me in a handshake that's what it was. And so I gave him my 60 bucks in a handshake so it doesn't
Jonah Ray
look like a mugging if people are looking.
Ken Marino
And I gave it to him in a handshake, and he takes it, and then he left.
Mark Normand
I hate this guy. I'm furious about this. Do you think?
Ken Marino
I, like.
David Wain
I hope he spit out something good because that was really obnoxious what he did.
Mark Normand
I agree.
Ken Marino
It's better than the mugging that, like, Tom Lennon got.
Mark Normand
What happened to him?
Ken Marino
He got punched in the face and he had a black eye and like a.
David Wain
Like, Tom Lennon's been mugged multiple times.
Ken Marino
Yeah, he got mugged, like, multiple times.
Jonah Ray
I thought he said John Lennon for a second. I was like, oh, I heard it was worse.
Ken Marino
Yeah, yeah, it was worse for.
Jonah Ray
Didn't know about that.
David Wain
I had a guy when I was on once, he had one of those big machetes and he sliced my. My head off.
Ken Marino
You had your head clean cut off by a machete?
David Wain
Massive, very sharp machete.
Ken Marino
When you were mugged, somebody cut your head off with a machete.
David Wain
Give me your money. And I'm like. Before I could think, he's like, jesus Christ.
Ken Marino
Can we get back to the fart stuff then?
David Wain
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mark Normand
That's a little. Not my cup.
Ken Marino
That's scary to me.
Mark Normand
Yikes.
David Wain
Don't, don't. I know scary. By the way, I'm gonna let you, all three of you off the hook now, all right? It didn't happen happen,
Ken Marino
because I'm trying to figure out, how does this guy get his head cut off in a mugging. Garden path, but here he is.
Mark Normand
No, that was scarier than obsession.
David Wain
That is 100% fictional story, guys.
Ken Marino
That is 100%.
Mark Normand
We're going to look it up when. When not being funny. It's supposed to be funny.
David Wain
Oh, no. David Wayne did not have his head cut off. He's alive.
Ken Marino
And thank God we have a fact
Jonah Ray
checker on this podcast.
Mark Normand
What we do without Google.
David Wain
So weird.
Mark Normand
Wet hot American summer. Good movie.
Ken Marino
25th anniversary coming up.
Mark Normand
Whoa.
David Wain
Summer, fifth anniversary. And it's gonna be re. Released in theaters, actually.
Mark Normand
What? That's super cool.
Ken Marino
How much do I get from that? How many points do I have on that?
David Wain
I think you get nothing.
Ken Marino
Oh, 20%.
Mark Normand
Are you getting mailbox money these days? Is that still a thing like residuals? Because you used to be able to live on that.
Ken Marino
Not so has the Italian say I'm not the. So much.
Mark Normand
Right?
David Wain
You get a lot.
Ken Marino
You.
Mark Normand
You've been you must get something. You've been in a ton of stuff.
Ken Marino
Get off my back. I just gave you my answer. In Italian, no less.
Mark Normand
Okay.
Jonah Ray
Just curious how much money American Summer like that must have felt so good because it's clearly not a huge budget, but you just made a funny movie and it became this head.
Mark Normand
Huge hit cult class.
David Wain
I think we made a. We hit profit this year.
Mark Normand
Oh, really?
Jonah Ray
So was it. Was it not a success? I mean, it just. It felt like a success when it came out.
Ken Marino
Ken Marino made very little money. Likely no more than a few hundred dollars in minimum or scale. Nothing at all on the original Wet House American better than us in our movie. How does it know that? That is true. But how does it know that it's a high.
David Wain
It's taking an educated guess every time.
Mark Normand
Well, zero box office.
Jonah Ray
How many days did that take to shoot Wet Hot American summer?
Ken Marino
Well, three.
David Wain
No, that took about 28 days. But you have to understand. 35 millimeter one camera. Prime lenses.
Ken Marino
Like guys, you must understand.
David Wain
Which means all three of those things made it go a thousand times slower than it would.
Ken Marino
How many cameras you shooting with?
Jonah Ray
We got to figure that out.
Mark Normand
Five. Just throwing a number. I don't know.
David Wain
Probably two.
Mark Normand
Probably two.
David Wain
And then sometimes three. That's what.
Mark Normand
All right, I almost said one.
Ken Marino
Who's your dp? You got anybody?
Jonah Ray
I don't think we have anyone yet.
Mark Normand
You thinking about anybody, David?
Ken Marino
Is there anybody that you watch where you like?
Mark Normand
I like the.
Jonah Ray
I think Jonah's got someone.
Ken Marino
Jonah's got somebody?
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Ken Marino
How do we trust Jonah?
Mark Normand
Should we call him? Let's call him.
Ken Marino
Give him a call.
Mark Normand
Give him a call. Peters. Put him on the. On the blower.
Ken Marino
Hey, man, what's up? I'm still sleeping. The Knicks were fucked up last night over, man. What's up?
David Wain
Jonas made some Jonas comedy.
Mark Normand
Yes.
David Wain
He's. He's really a very enterprising, smart young man.
Mark Normand
He's good.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Very ambitious. What.
Ken Marino
Name some of his stuff.
Mark Normand
Pull it up.
Ken Marino
I mean, where do we start to start?
Jonah Ray
He just did the new one with Spade and Theo Vaughan. He just directed that.
Mark Normand
Bus Boys.
Ken Marino
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Jonah Ray
What else did he do?
Mark Normand
What else?
Jonah Ray
He did the one with Jabouki and Jerry Ferrari did that one.
Mark Normand
Oh. Oh, okay.
Jonah Ray
He just did one called what About Xmas? Did he.
Ken Marino
Did he do Dating in New York?
Jonah Ray
Yes.
David Wain
At midnight?
Mark Normand
Yep.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Oh, that's after midnight. We'll let it all hang out.
David Wain
He's. He's very active on Tick Tock too. He does.
Mark Normand
Oh, really?
David Wain
Talks A lot about his process. And, you know, he's very open about the financial side.
Ken Marino
And this is the dp. Who is this? No, the director. Yeah, Jonah. Jonah.
David Wain
He used to work for us.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ken Marino
I love Jonah.
Mark Normand
Wow. Pokemon Writers row.
Ken Marino
Yeah. Watch out.
Mark Normand
Get out of here.
Jonah Ray
Damn. Airbud 4.
Mark Normand
Whoa. What sport are they on now?
Ken Marino
Can I. Can I be honest with you guys? Yeah. Of the earbuds, four is the one. Is it? I like four fours of the one. They figured it out. They cracked the code for AirBud 4.
Mark Normand
Wow. Okay, he's got volleyball now.
Ken Marino
Yeah, he's playing volleyball. Who's the raccoon playing golf? The raccoon is best.
Mark Normand
Best friend.
Jonah Ray
Now it's a trans dog swimmer.
David Wain
Did they ever make a movie with spuds MacKenzie?
Mark Normand
No, I guess not.
David Wain
Oh, that's stupid.
Mark Normand
I heard he was hard to work with.
David Wain
Ken.
Ken Marino
Wait a second.
David Wain
Spuds McKenzie. Next script meets Spuds McKenzie.
Ken Marino
Oh, Spuds McKenzie.
Mark Normand
Marino.
Ken Marino
Ken's. Marino's.
David Wain
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Together for the first time.
Mark Normand
Wow. They went from a dog to a trans lady to Shane Gillis. Bud Lights. Really got raised like my life.
David Wain
Sounds like my dating life.
Mark Normand
There we go. Wait a minute. Who's the weird kid holding him? Sorry. Now we're just on the Internet. But, yeah, Spuds McKinney was a good time. Remember, girls would, like, blow them and stuff in the commercials. They would get all.
Ken Marino
No, they wouldn't.
Mark Normand
Well, they would. They would.
Ken Marino
Commercials. Are you watching?
Mark Normand
They'd cozy up to it.
Ken Marino
Cozy up to them because everybody likes a cute dog.
Mark Normand
And everybody.
Ken Marino
And they'll lay. Ladies love a cool dog.
Mark Normand
Yeah, but he was getting puss.
Ken Marino
No, he was just hanging out with the ladies.
Mark Normand
Oh, okay. Well, I got a little intimate.
Ken Marino
Well, I don't know what commercials you
Mark Normand
were watching, pal, but whatever's on tv. Yeah, I couldn't choose them.
David Wain
You can't choose.
Ken Marino
Sometimes I feel like growing up, the TV was my mom. Look, TV was my dad, you know?
Mark Normand
Yeah. These girls are all over.
Ken Marino
Okay. But they're all about. Hey, check it out.
Mark Normand
Oh, well, that is a cool damn dog. Oh, she's in his ear.
David Wain
I call TV the Plug In Drug.
Mark Normand
Hear, hear. Like, no.
Ken Marino
Hey, look at this dog's surfboard.
Jonah Ray
He's a cool dog.
Mark Normand
He's cool. Oh, he's going home with three. Look at this. Oh, my God. I thought. Who's that? Whoa. Is he. Is that a red rocket? Oh, man, look, he's on a rock.
Jonah Ray
That was a cool ass turn, though. Did you see that turn.
Mark Normand
That was a great turn. Oh, my God.
Ken Marino
Honestly, the ladies aside, is this dog drinking beer?
Mark Normand
Yes, because the dog was on the
Ken Marino
float with a beer.
Jonah Ray
How about that little tank top he's got on?
Mark Normand
Look at rubbing him down. I'm telling you to pet a cute dog. They're putting peanut butter in between the legs, and he's singing with the dog.
Ken Marino
But why is the dog drinking beer?
David Wain
That's a very.
Mark Normand
Well, he's a party animal.
David Wain
Buzz Mackenzie is a very.
Mark Normand
We're drinking whiskey.
David Wain
It's phenomenal.
Mark Normand
Oh, he's in the Cadillac. Oh, he can do country as well. Good for Spuds.
David Wain
Sorry. Brought it up.
Ken Marino
Yeah, I'm sorry. You brought it up, too.
David Wain
I feel great about it, actually.
Ken Marino
Oh, I'm happy you brought it up. Same Sammy? Yes, man.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
He's got to be dead, right, Spuds?
Ken Marino
Oh, no, no. He's alive and well.
David Wain
There's absolutely no chance.
Mark Normand
Give me a. Give me a year, a date of birth and a date of death. I wonder how much the guy made with his dog. Whoever was that dog owner?
Ken Marino
Find out next time.
David Wain
I love this format. You just get to see what the Internet says about everything we're talking about.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
David Wain
Died in 1993.
Mark Normand
Oh, that's a shame.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Party animal.
Ken Marino
Liver failure.
Jonah Ray
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Kidney failure.
Mark Normand
Kidney failure. The bud.
Ken Marino
Yep. Of course.
Mark Normand
Oh, you called it.
David Wain
You know, the kids were in the Little Rascals.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
David Wain
One of them passed away.
Mark Normand
Oh, just one.
David Wain
I think maybe all of them, actually.
Mark Normand
Yeah, I would say so. I mean, that was in the, what, the 30s?
David Wain
20s.
Mark Normand
20s, yeah.
Ken Marino
Yeah. I can't. I have to imagine. They're all.
Jonah Ray
No, that's a new Little Rascals. What are you doing?
Ken Marino
Yeah, we want the original cast. Yeah.
Mark Normand
Oh, there we go.
Ken Marino
Oh, man. Darla.
Mark Normand
Oh, I love that, darling. Look how cute Porky Lee was.
Ken Marino
Oh, my God.
Mark Normand
Anyone else? Hard?
Jonah Ray
Yeah, Every kid wanted that hat back in the day.
Ken Marino
Tommy Bond has seen. Tommy Bond did not age well.
Mark Normand
Yes. Frog.
Ken Marino
Robert Blake, also, unfortunately, apparently a really good guy. No, no, it turns out not so much, really.
David Wain
Robert Blake.
Mark Normand
He was uglier than his wife.
David Wain
Right at the front door of the house that I lived in.
Mark Normand
Get out of here.
David Wain
I lived in it later, but in. In Los Angeles.
Mark Normand
Does that help or hurt the resale?
David Wain
I was renting the house.
Mark Normand
I see.
Ken Marino
Smart for Blakeheads.
Mark Normand
Maybe the best doc in the last 30 years. What do you say?
Ken Marino
Blakeheads?
Mark Normand
The jinx.
Jonah Ray
That wasn't him. That was Robert Durst.
Mark Normand
Ah, I got him mixed up. But they both Killed somebody.
Jonah Ray
And they got a similar vibe a little bit.
Mark Normand
Yeah. Pull up a Durst Blake side by side. I'm telling you.
Jonah Ray
Ever see The Robert Blake vs. Orson Welles on Carson?
Mark Normand
No.
Jonah Ray
It's a nice. It's a nice little 15.
Ken Marino
Oh, is that when he's like. Not because he refused to wear a tie? Like, that was like Robert Blake's thing was, I don't wear a tie.
Jonah Ray
Really?
Mark Normand
Yeah, that's his thing.
Jonah Ray
He called him. He called him fat and Orson just zinged.
Ken Marino
That's right. That's right.
David Wain
What does that have to do with it?
Ken Marino
He's doing some research.
Mark Normand
Oh, weird. Yeah, Robert Blake is.
Jonah Ray
And he was in the original. What's the Capote book? The famous Capote book.
Mark Normand
In Cold Blood.
Jonah Ray
Yeah, he was in that movie as a murderer.
Ken Marino
That's right.
Mark Normand
Oh, correct. Yeah. Dude, I didn't know. That's all full Cirque. They're making A Jinx Part two.
Jonah Ray
It was good how it came out. Oh, it was fucking awesome.
Mark Normand
I missed that one. I mean, where do you go?
Jonah Ray
What happened to the Jinx?
Mark Normand
Best doc ever.
Jonah Ray
It might be the best true crime ever.
David Wain
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Ken Marino
I don't like true crime shit.
Mark Normand
I mean, this.
Jonah Ray
But it's that good.
Mark Normand
It's well done.
Ken Marino
Watch it.
Jonah Ray
It's that good.
Mark Normand
It's the best.
David Wain
Did they ever let that kid off from making a murder?
Mark Normand
Oh, the slow guy.
David Wain
That.
Jonah Ray
That was too stretched out.
Mark Normand
Of course it was.
Jonah Ray
That was like too many episodes.
Ken Marino
Do you think there's murder and Gail Daughtry in the Celebrity Sex Pack?
David Wain
Are you gonna have to find out.
Ken Marino
Oh, you think there's intrigue?
Mark Normand
You got a murder at the box office a lot.
Ken Marino
Let's hope so.
Jonah Ray
Well, we hope you guys crush at the box office, man. That'd be awesome.
Mark Normand
Jeez, That's a long name.
David Wain
I hope so, too. Yeah, it's a very long title. But that's, you know, it's part of the fun.
Ken Marino
That's part of the fun.
Jonah Ray
What other. What other shows you going on to promote?
Ken Marino
Well, Johnny Carson, of course.
Jonah Ray
Nice. Yeah, it's hard to get on.
Ken Marino
Apparently Johnny's not going to be there. It's going to be Rivers booked on
David Wain
Colbert, I think we're gonna do.
Ken Marino
Yeah, we're gonna do Colbert.
Mark Normand
Fun doing. Yeah.
Ken Marino
And then what else?
David Wain
Leno.
Mark Normand
There you go.
Ken Marino
Yeah. Yeah.
Mark Normand
Steve Allen.
Ken Marino
Steve Allen. We're gonna do a thing of Steve Allen. Yeah.
David Wain
Steve Allen wants us to do this whole. The whole bit with the dartboards and then.
Ken Marino
Oh, we're Gonna do some sketch. We're gonna go on that late night comedy show Fridays.
Mark Normand
Ah, Michael Richards.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
So good times.
Jonah Ray
You couldn't get Ferguson. You couldn't get Ferguson.
Mark Normand
We were.
Ken Marino
We're still waiting back to here.
David Wain
We're doing the magic hour with Magic Johnson.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah.
Ken Marino
And then Chevy Chase. We do Chevy Chase.
David Wain
We're doing Joan Rivers. Yeah.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
David Wain
Fun.
Ken Marino
Yeah. So the whole circle. We'll get out there. We'll get to get our. Out there.
Mark Normand
Well, it looks Abraham. I can't wait to see it.
Ken Marino
But it sounded like you just said, it looks abada. Abada?
Mark Normand
Yeah, that's my native tongue.
Ken Marino
Is that a catchphrase for the show?
Mark Normand
Abraham. Abrah, Abraham. That's what I say.
David Wain
In all sincerity, being objective, it is really one of the funniest movies ever made.
Mark Normand
Wow. Okay. That's a hell of a blur.
Jonah Ray
Is it really hard editing these things? Like, is there so much stuff you want to keep that you're just like, fuck, we got to. Just. Because you want to keep a comedy pretty tight, right?
Ken Marino
You keep it at 90, 90, 93 minutes.
Jonah Ray
That's good. That's smart. Yeah, but it's hard, right? There's a lot of stuff you want.
Ken Marino
It's hard. You gotta say goodbye to some of your babies.
David Wain
Let it go.
Mark Normand
Let it go.
David Wain
Let it. It go for the hole.
Mark Normand
Abort.
Ken Marino
Yeah. You know the expression, let it go. Let it go. Go for the hole. Ouch.
Mark Normand
How funny is that ham, huh? Handsome and funny. Yeah, he's got it all. Yeah.
Ken Marino
I mean, the way you're saying that. You intru. I mean, you want to. I can introduce you.
Mark Normand
I mean, I wouldn't kick him out of the bed for eating crackers. He's married.
Ken Marino
Yes.
Mark Normand
What's he thinking? Love.
Ken Marino
I'm in love.
David Wain
He has a wonderful wife.
Ken Marino
What do you mean?
Mark Normand
Wow, this guy.
Ken Marino
Are you married?
Mark Normand
Yeah, but I'm not ham.
Ken Marino
Yeah, I'm.
Mark Normand
I'm deli meat.
David Wain
Are you married to John Ham?
Mark Normand
I am not married to Anna Scola.
Ken Marino
No, Jon Ham is.
Mark Normand
Yeah, I know.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
That's why I'm not.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
David Wain
Anna Osceola is one of the best makers of cake. Like, she bakes cake.
Jonah Ray
What kind of cakes are we talking?
David Wain
Any kind of fruit. Yeah.
Ken Marino
Okay. How about tomato cake?
Mark Normand
No, that's not a kick. Come on. Where'd you go to improv? Joking.
David Wain
I never heard of tomato cake.
Jonah Ray
It is a fruit. Technically, he's playing the game fair.
Ken Marino
All right, I bet there is such a thing as tomato cake. Would you mind looking it up?
David Wain
Oh, My God.
Mark Normand
Oh, geez. There's gonna be some. There you go.
Jonah Ray
It's not a cake. This is clearly a frittata.
David Wain
Being on this podcast feels like me sitting at home trying to write like,
Ken Marino
surprisingly delicious moist dessert that tastes remarkably like spiced carrot cake or gingerbread cake. Thank you.
David Wain
I wish I had some.
Mark Normand
I'd like to try it now, actually. You can make a cake out of anything.
Ken Marino
Oh, yeah. I mean, fruit.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Establish that. Tomato, of course.
Mark Normand
Butter cake.
David Wain
Who's been on this show that comes to mind? Just the first you think of as, like, the. One of the most exciting.
Ken Marino
Yes. Who do people go to? What's get the. What's got. Got the most hits.
Jonah Ray
Seinfeld was pretty cool. That was a pretty cool episode.
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
You want to hear my Seinfeld?
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
What's the deal with crackers?
David Wain
That's great.
Jonah Ray
Burr was big.
Mark Normand
It was. Bill Burr was fun.
Ken Marino
Oh, you want to hear my Bill Burr?
Mark Normand
Yeah.
Ken Marino
Hey, Boston, what's your deal? Why are you guys being so shitty right now?
Jonah Ray
Hey, Christopher Walken. That was a good one.
Mark Normand
Yeah, yeah.
Ken Marino
Okay, sure. I'm Christopher Walken.
Jonah Ray
Nice.
Mark Normand
Okay. We had Paul Giamatti
David Wain
prove this message.
Ken Marino
Oh, that's nice.
Mark Normand
All right, good.
Ken Marino
So, wait, so you had Giamatti on here?
Mark Normand
No, no.
Ken Marino
We were just trying to say you had Christopher Walken.
David Wain
He was setting you up to do.
Mark Normand
We did have Seinfeld.
Ken Marino
How is Seinfeld?
Jonah Ray
Oh, you're a great episode.
Ken Marino
What was a moment that Seinfeld gave you that even when you think about now, guys, gives you the goosebumps, the chills? What is it?
Mark Normand
I mean, it was sincerely great. I know you're making a mockery, but it was awesome.
David Wain
He's making mockery. I'm.
Ken Marino
I'm not making a mockery. I'm asking you what did you. I was making a joke of how I asked the question. But what was the.
Mark Normand
We go deep into comedy nerd joke writing, and it was really enlightening.
Jonah Ray
We love that stuff.
Ken Marino
So let me ask you something. When did you get into comedy?
Jonah Ray
We both. Probably around 20 years now.
Mark Normand
Yeah. 20 years ago.
Ken Marino
What made you do it?
Mark Normand
What were you always loved? I was a waiter. Then I moved furniture. Then I did construction then. Like that. But I moved up here. I'm from New Orleans. There's no comedy there, so. Right. I had to come up here.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
To try to be a comedian.
Ken Marino
From New Orleans. I love New Orleans.
Mark Normand
Hey, great town. Great town. Most original. Not original, but unique city in America.
David Wain
I'd say, without question, one of The.
Ken Marino
Some of the best.
Jonah Ray
I love New Orleans in the world.
Ken Marino
Some of the best food in the world.
Mark Normand
Very good. I miss it. You can't get it here, which is weird. You can get Ethiopian food. No, but I can't get Creole. I've looked around. It ain't. It's not made with love.
Jonah Ray
Who's like a person you guys have worked with, who. You're like, holy. This is pretty crazy.
David Wain
Henry Winkler comes to mind.
Ken Marino
Alan Oliver, Aldo, Come on.
Jonah Ray
That's pretty cool.
Ken Marino
Anytime you work with somebody like that, you watched growing up and you were like, oh, my God, I'm watching, you know, mash or Happy Days or like Taxi. Like, you know, Elaine Nardo up. Mary Lou Henner.
Mark Normand
Sure.
Ken Marino
You know, like, she was on Party down, if you remember. Ed Begley Jr. Like, all these people that you grew up watching and then all of a sudden they're in scenes
Mark Normand
with you insane, or you're directing them
Ken Marino
in something pretty amazing. It's. It's mind boggling. It's a weird fucking mindfuck.
Jonah Ray
Looks amazing, by the way.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Who's that?
Jonah Ray
Ernie Hudson.
Mark Normand
Oh, yeah. Crazy.
David Wain
I was. I was shooting a pilot that all the characters in it were older people. It was like, about old people. And so, like, the entire cast of Barney Miller came to audition and the entire cast of the Love Boat came to audition and I was just like, this is.
Ken Marino
That's crazy.
Mark Normand
Wow.
Ken Marino
I shot a Christmas movie with Eddie Murphy.
Jonah Ray
Whoa.
Ken Marino
I walk into the middle of the first movie. I walk into the middle of the street. Eddie Murphy. You all right?
Mark Normand
Sorry. All right.
Ken Marino
Eddie Murphy.
Mark Normand
I got excited about it again.
Ken Marino
Eddie Murphy walks out of his house. I walk out of my house and we meet in the middle of the street and we have a scene with Eddie Murphy.
Mark Normand
Yeah. See, that's legendary. That's incredible.
Ken Marino
Was he. Was he cool? He. Yes, he was cool. Like, you know, you hear like, he's to himself. And he was like, to himself because he's Eddie Murphy. Right. He's got nothing to prove and he just is kind of. He's. He's like. But he was like, super nice. You know, like when we got into conversations, he would like, just talk about stuff. Like, he was a really cool guy.
Jonah Ray
What do you talk about with Eddie Murphy?
Ken Marino
Well, once I got to like. Because he would shoot, you know, he would show up, shoot a scene and then leave.
Mark Normand
Right.
Ken Marino
So. But there were times we had. I had a son, so the. In the movie. And so sometimes because of time, you know, the. The kid we had got to let the kid out in 20 minutes. Eddie Murphy couldn't go. Leave. And so we were just standing on set waiting to reset, you know, the cameras or whatever. And we got into some conversations and we talked about who his favorite director was. Just like, growing up on Long Island.
Mark Normand
Whoa.
Ken Marino
Yeah, it was cool.
Jonah Ray
Who does he love?
Ken Marino
What's that? His favorite director is who did Training Places.
Mark Normand
Landis.
Ken Marino
Yeah. He's like. I thought they hated each other because Landis was like. Like one of the, you know, greats like Steven Spielberg and Scorsese. All those guys coming out of there and goes, he doesn't get his.
Mark Normand
I agree.
Ken Marino
His due.
Mark Normand
He had a run in the 80s.
David Wain
He really just never came back, though.
Mark Normand
Yeah, it's true.
David Wain
Well, that's Landis. We talked to Landis when we were trying to make Wet Hot American Summer, and he was going to help us produce it, put his name on it, help us find money for it, and it sort of felt fizzled away, and that was the end of it.
Ken Marino
Wait, what did you say after What. What happened?
Mark Normand
Incident.
Ken Marino
Because of the helicopter. Because of the creep show. Does that mean.
David Wain
No, because Twilight Zone was Twilight Zone. No, but this. This was. This was all after that. This was in 2000.
Mark Normand
Oh, okay.
David Wain
Wet Hot American Summer. And he just. He was trying to connect us with some financier or whatever and just never really happened. And so.
Mark Normand
All right, I think we gotta wrap up. Sorry. We're getting there. We're getting this.
Ken Marino
I got it. Like a 10. I got like. Like 10 more hours of stuff that I wanted to talk to you about.
Mark Normand
Oh, okay.
David Wain
June 26th, March, Mark Ridley's comedy Castle.
Mark Normand
No, no, go see Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass. Crazy cast. It's in the theater. It's gonna be hilarious. He said it's the best comedy.
Jonah Ray
Mark and I are gonna go see it in the theater.
David Wain
We will go see it if you're in it. If you're on the east coast in July, check out the Middle Aged Dad Jam Band. We'll be on tour.
Ken Marino
That's right.
David Wain
That's me and Ken. I'm the drummer. He's the lead singer.
Mark Normand
Yeah, Middle East.
Ken Marino
We're doing. Yeah, we're doing Rehoboth. Then we're doing Amagansett.
David Wain
Amagansett.
Ken Marino
And then we're doing West Irving Plaza here in New York. Doing. And then we're going up to Rhode island in Connecticut or something.
Mark Normand
Hell yeah.
David Wain
And Maine.
Mark Normand
Boy, you guys are living.
David Wain
The thing about it is that it's also our tribute to WET Hot American Summer. 20th anniversary. So we have, like, songs from the movie, and it's gonna be really fun.
Mark Normand
Cool.
David Wain
Yeah.
Mark Normand
All right.
Ken Marino
And. And then, of course, I just want to say that this is the. Probably the best installment of the Gail Daughtry movies. This is the best one.
Mark Normand
Okay, great. Awesome, guys. Well, hey, thanks for coming on. Yeah, we're gonna go see it. And you should all go see it.
David Wain
There you go.
Mark Normand
Tell them we sent you.
Jonah Ray
Yeah. Well, guys, thanks for listening. By the way, Shout Out Jezelnick. Red Stoner. Enjoyed it. Good.
Mark Normand
Really?
Jonah Ray
I like the book. You couldn't get through it, you said. I guess. Mixed reviews. I thought it was. I thought it was good, Peters. I enjoyed the book and it was. It was. I thought it was solid, slow burn, character study type thing. But, like, very well written. And at the end, I put it down, like, huh.
Mark Normand
He knows books. He's a reader.
Jonah Ray
I enjoyed it. Yeah. And another quick shout out to my buddy, Joel Walkowski.
Mark Normand
Yes.
Jonah Ray
Wrote a book. Honolulu Blues. Really good.
Mark Normand
He wrote it.
Jonah Ray
He wrote it. It's about his life as you know, the struggles he's had, his relationship with his father, this troubled relationship he had with his dad and his relationship with the Detroit Lions and how losing shaped him and who he is. So if you're a Detroit person, you gotta pick this book up. And if you're just a sports fan in general, it'll resonate just like the ups and downs. It's a touching book. All right, so shout out Joel, my basketball buddy. Proud of you for writing that.
Mark Normand
Yeah, Very impressed. Wrote a whole book. Good for you, man.
Ken Marino
Yeah.
Mark Normand
Yeah. That's awesome.
Jonah Ray
So, Mark, where are you gonna be?
Mark Normand
Hey, going out to Royal Oak, Michigan, for Mark Ridley's comedy Castle.
Jonah Ray
Great club.
Mark Normand
Great club. Low tickets. Hilarities. Another great club.
Jonah Ray
Oh, my favorite.
Mark Normand
Yeah, I'm on. I'm on a generational run. Unless we.
Jonah Ray
Well, you can't do some of this shit, bro.
Mark Normand
Yeah, we'll see what happens. Let's get this going. Happy to cancel. Emerald City Comedy Club in Seattle. Never been, but I heard it's great. Side spurs in Tampa and the clubhouse in East Hampton. Those are fun. Bring the wife and kids. I'll go to the beach. Cobbs in San Fran.
Jonah Ray
Canceling all these, buddy.
Mark Normand
Austin, Houston, Improv.
Jonah Ray
These are going to happen.
Mark Normand
That'd be. That'd be a great problem to have. Zany's in Nashville.
Jonah Ray
Cancel it.
Mark Normand
Improv in Pittsburgh. And Casino. Regina. Regina. And then the laptop in Calgary. We're going all the way to Canada. The Great White Way. Acme in Minneapolis.
Jonah Ray
Oh, man, I haven't been there in years.
Mark Normand
Great one, great club. And then comedy works in Denver. Look at this. Look. It's good to be back. My comedy on State, Wisconsin, I gotta get.
Jonah Ray
I. I feel like I finally have a base of new. I guess gotta keep rolling.
Mark Normand
Hell yeah. It takes forever. And it's a slog, isn't it?
Jonah Ray
August 30th, I got Lisbon. Can't wait for that festival. Greece. Tickets moving, baby. Then we got Budapest. Tickets are very slow in Budapest. So come on, guys, help a brother out there in Budapest. Buy some tickets in Hungary. Zagreb looking good there. We got Vienna. Warsaw. Added a show in Warsaw. My Jewish brother. That's my. That's my 23andMe heritage. You guys better show out.
Mark Normand
Poland's awesome.
Jonah Ray
Helsinki, can't wait. Stockholm, Sweden and Copenhagen. And that's all in September, so I can't wait. And hopefully we're shooting this movie very soon.
Mark Normand
Let's hope so. Pray no.
Jonah Ray
Allah, buy some Bodega Cat whiskey. And hey, if you're still listening, guys, certain clubs are not carrying our whiskey that we've played for many years, that we support and that we like and we'd like to play again. Yes, we're talking about you. Funny Bone.
Mark Normand
Funny Bone. What happened? I thought we had a good, good relationship.
Jonah Ray
If you like the pod and you like Bodega Cat whiskey, or you just like us, flood the comments on Instagram for all the Funny Bone clubs. Why aren't you carrying Bodega Cat? Say, please carry Bodega Cat. We want Bodega Cat in the menu. Be respectful, be nice, but just say, hey, it'd be cool if you carry Bodega Cat whiskey. All the Funny bone. Instagram handles all that shit.
Mark Normand
It'd be nice. Yeah, come on. We'd love to have you and fans comment on them.
Jonah Ray
And we hopefully will be playing those clubs again soon. And. Oh, yeah, and we could do drink deals and all that stuff. So we'll be back.
Mark Normand
That'd be great.
Jonah Ray
But we love you guys. Thanks for listening.
Mark Normand
Thank you.
Ken Marino
Comedy Sunday's the day for my next bender. A bit of Piva wreck. You know, the fear change. Close. I've had a little too much burping.
David Wain
And Norman's talking shit about the fucking Pope.
Ken Marino
And I get down in the same way up on the roof like the cops coming.
David Wain
And naked Samuel is feeling dangerous. I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans. This woman doesn't look like I remember her.
Ken Marino
And I get down in the same way. We might be true.
Mark Normand
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Guests: Ken Marino & David Wain
Hosts: Mark Normand & Jonah Ray (substituting for Sam Morril)
This lively, joke-packed episode brings together acclaimed comedy writers/performers Ken Marino and David Wain (The State, Wet Hot American Summer, Party Down) with NYC comics Mark Normand and Jonah Ray. Set against the backdrop of a heatwave and Knicks playoff fever, the group dives into stories and advice about making movies and TV shows, the realities of the creative grind, NYC nostalgia, the biz of comedy, memorable muggings, and their hilarious upcoming film, Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass. The tone is loose, quick-witted, and full of inside stories both comedic and honest, blending industry talk, NYC history, and relentless riffing.
Knicks Playoffs Mania:
Referee Heckling & Game Drama:
Getting a Movie Made
Indie vs. Studio Films:
NYC Comedy and Creative Career Paths
Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass
Word-of-mouth Successes: Obsession, Party Down, Wet Hot American Summer
NYC 90’s Nostalgia
Celebrity Encounters & Casting
Techniques, Prep, and Editing
Analogy overload: Comparing NBA playoff suspense to marital foreplay ((06:32) “You don't want to go right for the clit. Same with this.” – Mark Normand)
Roasting & Impressions:
NYC Survival Tips:
On Creative Anxiety
On Making Art for Love vs. Money
This episode stands out for its blend of rapid comedic exchange and heartfelt–yet practical–industry advice, but also as a celebration of resilience in the face of Hollywood’s unpredictability. Marino and Wain serve as both mentors and comic foils, while Mark and Jonah keep the dialogue grounded in the daily hustle of big-city comedy and creative ambition.
You'll walk away with a notebook of creative advice, a list of movie recommendations, a sense of how enduring NYC comedy is, and plenty of laughs.
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Listen for: College comedy origin stories, advice every indie filmmaker needs, tales of NYC muggings, the agony and ecstasy of fandom, and the true value of working with your friends in showbiz.
Quotable energy: relentless, candid, free-association hilarity.