Ep 241: Jim Norton

Summary

Podcast Title: We Might Be Drunk
Episode: 241: Jim Norton
Release Date: July 21, 2025
Hosts: Sam Morril and Mark Normand
Guest: Jim Norton
Produced by: Gotham Production Studios, LLC

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Introduction and Sobriety Discussion (00:00 - 00:30)

The episode kicks off with a humorous banter about sobriety and substance use. Mark Normand jokes about Jim Norton's sobriety status, leading Jim to clarify:

Jim Norton (00:16): "No, I don't mind us drinking."

Jim shares his stance on substance use, expressing indifference towards others' choices as long as it doesn't interfere with his daily life.

Bar Culture and Toasting Etiquette (00:30 - 01:22)

The conversation shifts to the nuances of bar traditions, particularly the act of toasting. Jim discusses his nonchalant approach to toasting:

Jim Norton (00:41): "It's a stupid tradition."

The trio humorously debates the superstitions surrounding toasting with water versus alcohol, highlighting the sometimes rigid social norms in bars.

“Comics Unleashed” and Byron Allen (01:53 - 03:21)

Mark and Jim delve into Jim Norton's experience with the show "Comics Unleashed," sharing anecdotes about its structure and Byron Allen's role:

Jim Norton (02:11): "I feel like watching. I think Andy Kindler called it Comics Uncomfortable, which was such a miserable thing to watch."

They critique the show's lack of spontaneity and genuine interaction among comedians, contrasting it with their preferred styles.

The Evolution of The Weather Channel (03:22 - 05:14)

The discussion transitions to The Weather Channel, its shift towards digital platforms, and its relevance in the age of smartphones:

Mark Normand (03:30): "Is the Weather Channel a good investment? Can we just look at our phone?"

Jim reminisces about the traditional appeal of weather broadcasts and the iconic weathermen of the past.

Jim Norton’s Cameo in Spider-Man (17:02 - 19:17)

Jim shares his experience of making a cameo in "Spider-Man," reflecting on the unexpected inclusion and his impressions of working alongside industry giants:

Jim Norton (18:35): "I had one cameo, yeah. It was in Spider-Man... I kept doing, like, all these dick jokes about the webbing being a load."

He humorously discusses the minimal impact of his role and the challenges of standing out in major film productions.

Movie Discussions: Raging Bull and Ordinary People (05:38 - 24:46)

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to classic films, particularly "Raging Bull" and "Ordinary People." The hosts debate the merits of each movie, Oscar controversies, and the enduring legacy of these films:

Jim Norton (12:05): "It's a masterpiece."

Jim praises "Raging Bull," highlighting its cinematic excellence and personal connection to the actors and director, Martin Scorsese.

Sam Morril (16:28): "I think Grantthe Hawks throw something... and all these great puns."

They critique the Oscars' decision-making, expressing admiration for films they believe deserved more recognition.

Comedy Special Insights and Challenges (37:09 - 58:55)

The conversation moves to the creative struggles of developing new comedy material. Jim discusses his process of writing and experimenting with bits, sharing frustrations and successes:

Jim Norton (54:53): "I can't think of any. Like, I'm just kind of talking things through on stage and that's it."

Sam and Mark reflect on their own creative processes, emphasizing the challenges of evolving as comedians while keeping material fresh and engaging.

Reflections on Classic Comedians and Their Legacies (33:10 - 37:33)

Jim reminisces about legendary comedians like Richard Pryor and their complex legacies, discussing their impact on comedy and personal anecdotes:

Jim Norton (35:08): "But if that didn't happen, I probably wouldn't even have remembered that. It was such a minor footnote."

The hosts explore how past comedians navigated controversial topics and the lasting influence of their work.

Pet Peeves and Modern Media Critique (58:36 - 74:23)

The trio vents about various pet peeves related to television and film, including overly extended storylines and poor character development in sequels:

Sam Morril (58:37): "That's actually a peeve. When they stretch them."

They discuss the decline in quality storytelling, attributing it to the need for higher ratings and shorter attention spans in modern audiences.

Final Thoughts and Upcoming Projects (83:38 - 86:24)

As the episode nears its end, Jim promotes his upcoming comedy tour and special, encouraging listeners to attend his shows and watch his latest work:

Jim Norton (83:38): "I'm going to be... I'm going."

Sam and Mark share details about their own tours, covering various locations both in the U.S. and Europe, and encourage fans to follow their performances.

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Notable Quotes

• Jim Norton (00:41): "It's a stupid tradition."
• Jim Norton (12:05): "It's a masterpiece."
• Jim Norton (54:53): "I can't think of any. Like, I'm just kind of talking things through on stage and that's it."
• Jim Norton (83:38): "I'm going to be... I'm going."

Conclusion

Episode 241 of "We Might Be Drunk" offers a rich tapestry of humor, personal anecdotes, and insightful discussions on comedy, film, and the ever-evolving landscape of media. Jim Norton's candidness and the hosts' chemistry create an engaging experience for both long-time listeners and newcomers alike.

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Transcript

[Jim Norton]

Foreign.

[Mark Normand]

Hey, here we are, folks. We might be drunk. We got a cocktail brewing.

[Sam Morril]

Negroni.

[Mark Normand]

Jim. Sober and. Yeah. You don't mind us drinking, huh?

[Jim Norton]

No, I don't.

[Mark Normand]

Okay. Some guys are like that.

[Sam Morril]

You've been sober a long time?

[Jim Norton]

Since I was a young man. Yeah, but I never mind. Pot smokes a little hard because I still like how that smells. But if guys are doing coke or drinking, I could care less, as long as it's not, like, something in my sinuses. I don't care.

[Sam Morril]

Break out the coke.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, please. I encourage that.

[Sam Morril]

Cheers, by the way. Cheers, guys.

[Jim Norton]

Guys. I'll toast with my laqua.

[Mark Normand]

Supposedly bad luck, but who gives? A look's a. It's a myth.

[Jim Norton]

I've heard that. Yeah, I've heard. I've heard that. I've had guys stop me from toasting with water and, like, it's bad luck. Like, now if I get drunk in your establishment, it's bad luck. Cutting myself on the dance floor.

[Mark Normand]

Bar rules. Like, when you take a shot and the guy goes. And he's like, whoa, you didn't slam it down. You're gonna go gay or whatever. All right.

[Sam Morril]

And I make eye contact on toast. But the people that are aggressive about it, the people that are like, one of these.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, I hate.

[Sam Morril]

I'm like, all right, settle down.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, There's a whole toast culture apparently I wasn't aware of. I'll do it once in a while. Sometimes I don't even clink glasses with people. Like, they'll all be doing it. I know I've missed everybody, and I don't care.

[Mark Normand]

Yes, exactly.

[Jim Norton]

I know it would bother them if they knew, but I'm like, tough shit. It's a stupid tradition.

[Mark Normand]

It's all silly.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, man.

[Jim Norton]

You asked me going in, they always ask you, like, do you want to talk about anything? And it's always. I'm always so tempted to say something really hacky, like when people are like, what do you want us to get into? I'm like, just lead me into my Gump impression.

[Sam Morril]

Jim. Jim, you're a big Tom Hanks guy, right?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, it's fun.

[Sam Morril]

Stu.

[Jim Norton]

For this stupid hat.

[Mark Normand]

I did a Comics Unleashed. And that's the whole show.

[Jim Norton]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

So, Jim, I hear you have a dog.

[Jim Norton]

I do. That's how I would have done that show. Just literal answers. Yes.

[Sam Morril]

Byron, wasn't it? Was it you? That was me, yeah. Where they were like, hey, Mark, you like working out? And you're like, no, I don't.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, I clicked it on him. He was so forced and cheesy. I couldn't handle it.

[Jim Norton]

I never did that show. Cause they were always like. I think it came after Tough crowd. And it always felt like tough crowd. If it was really regimented or spontaneous or not aggressive at all. Yeah, I always thought that was a fairly awful show. I feel I like watching. I think Andy Kindler called it Comics Uncomfortable, which was such a. It's such a miserable thing thing to watch. Guys fake laughing at each other's bits, like not calling each other out. Oh, yeah. It's just so phony.

[Mark Normand]

I know. Like, Norm has the ultimate. He did it. And Byron Allen goes, so, Norm, I hear you're getting older. Because he had a bit about being an old man. Norm goes, yeah, we all are. And Byron was like, I don't know where to go from here. Then he goes, I gotta tell you, Byron, this couldn't be more leashed, which I love.

[Unknown]

He made so much money off that show because he owned it. He bought the Weather Channel.

[Mark Normand]

I know.

[Sam Morril]

Didn't he have money? Didn't he have money aside from it, though, too?

[Unknown]

I don't know.

[Sam Morril]

I think. I don't think. I don't think he just got rich on Comics Unleashed.

[Mark Normand]

I think he owned, like, upn. He has a couple of stations.

[Jim Norton]

Well, he was on. Was it real people he was on, or. That's incredible. It was one of those shows. It was one with Skip Stevenson, Sarah Purcell, Fran Tarkington. I'm mixing two shows together from the late seventies.

[Mark Normand]

Okay.

[Jim Norton]

That's incredible. And real people. But I think Byron Allen came from one of those.

[Mark Normand]

Was he. He must have been 10.

[Jim Norton]

He was a young guy. He's probably older than he looks.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Is the Weather Channel a good investment? Can we just look at our phone? Who's still watching the Weather Channel?

[Mark Normand]

That's a good point.

[Jim Norton]

Well, they have their own app. I wonder if a lot of it is, like, the Weather Channel has, like, segued into the app.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Just get the free app.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Mark Normand]

I remember Waiting Local on the eights. You're like, oh, at 8:00, they're going to show our weather. That was exciting.

[Sam Morril]

Get a hot weather lady.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Or a grumpy dude.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

But that smooth jazz was like.

[Jim Norton]

But it's either a hot, attractive woman or it's guy that does poppers and blows other guys behind a fucking tree in Central Park.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Weathermen are always getting busted for being on Grindr.

[Mark Normand]

That's true. Well, they got to know when to go in the bushes, you know. They don't want to go in a rainstorm.

[Jim Norton]

That is true.

[Sam Morril]

We found the local weatherman dead in a motel room. Got a belt around his neck and.

[Mark Normand]

A piano leg in his ass.

[Sam Morril]

There is a darkness, but it's weird because there is, like, I'll throw someone. Just throw the local news on. And there is a weird comfort to it. Even, like. Even like a shitty show. Like Good Morning America. You're kind of like. It's kind of comforting.

[Mark Normand]

It's familiar.

[Jim Norton]

I'll listen to local traffic like I do, like, like on 10, 10 and 8 80. Like, I like local traffic, but there's like a real. A real reason for that because you know. You know you have to get out of the fucking city. But local news, I don't find very. Because the stories are just annoying.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah. It's like a cat in a tree or some shit.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. And I just don't. I don't really care, but I did look. Who doesn't miss the old Ernie and asked as Chuck Scarborough. Remember Sue Simmons? It was all those rumors that she drank too much. You remember? Oh, yeah. You're not from here.

[Mark Normand]

No, no.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, New York One. I remember there's a New York One guy. God, the three Apples. Remember that guy?

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yes.

[Sam Morril]

He's like, I give this three apples, and he used to hang hammered around the Cellar all the time, and he would just, like, drop his name. He's like, I'm the apples guy. I'd be like, no one. No one knows that. Like, I'm a native New Yorker. And even I'm like, oh, that was the biggest I could give. I remember he tried to pull it on. It was like a New York One, and it was only on Time Warner, so I remember he tried to, like, big. He tried to, like, brag to Michael Che once, and he was like, apples, NY 1. And Michael J. Not even trying to be a dick, was like, oh, I've got fios. I don't know. And you could just see the spirit lift out of him.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, man, it's like the Wiz.

[Jim Norton]

Who is the guy that would do the weather? Lloyd Lindsay Young.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Jesus, what a name.

[Jim Norton]

He had this cra. Like, I. Hello, sunshine. Wouldn't he do, like, something like that?

[Unknown]

Yes, that's right.

[Jim Norton]

This is old man talk on a podcast.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

You guys Remember Cronkite announcing JFK's death?

[Mark Normand]

Well, you had to have a catchphrase back then. I got three apples. Hello, whatever. You know, thumbs up, thumbs down. Look at this guy. Manhattan on the west side, you gotta have a thing. A hook.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, he did. Lloyd Lindsay Young. Everybody remembered him.

[Sam Morril]

He's in bed with his wife. He's like, I got it.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

I'm the hello guy.

[Jim Norton]

I bet you she talked him into it because he would yell into her and she's like, hey, I have a better idea that for the weather. That one is going to be thunderstorms.

[Unknown]

Have you seen this Ernie Anastas clip where he says keep that chicken.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, of course.

[Sam Morril]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

Wait, what's that plan?

[Sam Morril]

If you haven't seen. It's a classic guy Guardian.

[Jim Norton]

And then check that seven day to.

[Mark Normand]

Make your weekend plans.

[Jim Norton]

Takes a tough man to make a tender forecast.

[Mark Normand]

Nick.

[Jim Norton]

I guess that's me. Keep that chicken.

[Mark Normand]

What does that mean?

[Sam Morril]

What is the reasoning behind this?

[Unknown]

I think he was actually saying keep plucking that chicken.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Oh, and it sounds like he fucking that chicken.

[Jim Norton]

Did he say keep fucking it or keep plucking it though?

[Unknown]

I think he meant to say keep plucking it.

[Jim Norton]

Slipped out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the guy who slips up and says something racist when he's talking about like, like the Negro League. You ever see that guy? He got fired.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

Oh.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Twitch. Not Jimmy the Greek.

[Jim Norton]

No, no, no. That was. That was about being bred from slavery. That was about black athlete, right? No, this was a guy not long ago who was talking about something and he was talking about like they had gone to the baseball hall of fame to help in the Negro League. But let's see. Let's just say he said it in the more aggressive fashion.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, got it.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. And it totally slipped out and they fired him.

[Mark Normand]

A guy recently said on that was.

[Jim Norton]

Me in the mirror.

[Mark Normand]

But he had to apologize. Museum and Arthur Bright.

[Jim Norton]

Negro League.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Phenomenal day today.

[Sam Morril]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

He kind of caught it and corrected it, but it was already too far.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Like, you know what I mean? Like defender had already hit.

[Sam Morril]

Did he get. Did he get fired?

[Jim Norton]

I think he got fired.

[Mark Normand]

Oh. And he's standing next to this guy who looks like he's in like. Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Duck Dynasty.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

[Sam Morril]

That is rough.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, that's a rough one. Because it feels like there was another one too with something like that where he just slipped and.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Fucking came out and you like. It was a Martin Luther King thing. Day he said. I think he said the name very, very incorrectly. And there was just no fixing it because you know that was in your brain when you said it.

[Mark Normand]

Yes, in the brain. Well, you know what does. Was it Gruden who had all those Emails leaked?

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I'm like, come on. It was an email. It's private show.

[Sam Morril]

It wasn't great, though. He was the coach of the Raiders. Oh, yeah, he was a great coach. I mean, he was a coach of the Bucks, too, I think. Won the. Won the Super Bowl.

[Mark Normand]

We got to get him on here.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Why would they.

[Sam Morril]

I saw those emails. I'm like, he'd be a good guest.

[Jim Norton]

Wait, were they leaked, or did it come out in some Sony hack? I think I vaguely remember that.

[Mark Normand]

I think people hated him on the inside. And they leaked it.

[Sam Morril]

He was a great part of it.

[Unknown]

It was part of a lawsuit. And they were. They were like, let's look at all your work emails. And then they reviewed them, and then they released them. Ooh, it's like private emails.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I'm just saying, if you release my group chat.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

It would not be perfect.

[Sam Morril]

I was at a wedding with a couple comics on Sunday, and Joe List and I were just. Just talking shit about so many people. And about five minutes into talking shit, we realized we were standing right in front of a camera that is rolling, and it's supposed to get the toast, and we're just like. We looked at each other like, what do we do? So we just turned it off. And I'm like, they might have missed the vows because of us. I was like, I don't know. And I was like, fuck that shit.

[Jim Norton]

But you had said this stuff.

[Sam Morril]

I know, but I was like, you know what? At that point, like, we're. We want to keep talking, so damn.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, that's bad.

[Mark Normand]

That's. That's our sex tape. You know, like, hot peel actors get caught having a sex tape. That's ours. It's talking shit.

[Jim Norton]

Comedians get caught trashing the last week's host. It really is not as fun. Right?

[Sam Morril]

It's the worst feeling when you're like, man, this guy hasn't read a new bid in a while. And then you look over, that's his phone recording a set.

[Mark Normand]

You're like, we've all done that one.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

And you're like, who the fuck Records from side stage? What the hell's he doing?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, it's the worst when you're shit talking and you just see that little camera. You got to look around. I've made the mistake. And you hope they don't watch their sets back because the guy's still nice to you. You're like, all right. He doesn't watch his own.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, that's true.

[Sam Morril]

By the way. By the way, I got a Peeve. Tell me if this is. What do you think of this? So I had a friend and so I. I bought tickets to see Sunset Boulevard on Broadway. I heard it's a good show, and my ex and I, we were going to see it. She got. She gets sick. So I was like, I'm just gonna give the tickets away to a friend of mine. I know he loves the movie Sunset Boulevard. So I'm like, you want the tickets? And he goes, I can't go, but my girlfriend would love the tickets. And I was like, all right, weird transfer, but fuck it. Who gives a shit? Take the tickets. So then I see them, and I was like, how'd you like the play? Was it good? I want to see it still. And she goes, I couldn't make it.

[Mark Normand]

Oh.

[Sam Morril]

So I gave you the tickets and no one went. So they just got married. I'm thinking, good wedding gift, Sunset Boulevard tickets again. What do you think?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, I like it.

[Sam Morril]

That's kind of a fun, like, little funny, fuck you, but also fun gift.

[Mark Normand]

It's still a gift.

[Sam Morril]

All right.

[Mark Normand]

Those tickets aren't cheap.

[Jim Norton]

Did they give them away or did she know?

[Sam Morril]

She just, like, I think got caught in traffic or something, just missed the show.

[Jim Norton]

Who fucking leaves late enough to get caught in traffic?

[Sam Morril]

I was blown away. I didn't ask any follow up questions because I was so baffled by the whole.

[Mark Normand]

I mean, that's a curb app completely.

[Sam Morril]

It's curbish for sure.

[Jim Norton]

That's very annoying. You leave so late, you miss it, you sit in traffic because you don't know when to fucking leave the house.

[Sam Morril]

Especially because I've heard it's great. I saw Liz and Colin were both at the Cellar being like, it's fucking great. You got to see it.

[Jim Norton]

What is it? There was something else.

[Sam Morril]

Sunset Boulevard on Broadway. I don't know what.

[Jim Norton]

Sunset Boulevard.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, you never saw the movie? Oh, it's. It's actually like all the crazy shit. Trump says. They were like favorite movies, like Sunset Boulevard. I'm like, all right, he's got one for sure. It's a movie from the 40s about this. It's like the first movie to be narrated by a dead guy. So it opens with him face down in the pool, shot in the back. And he's like, here's what happened. And it's like it was this aging actress.

[Mark Normand]

Yep. All the tropes are from this.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. All the. It's like a classic 40s movie, but she's an aging actress and she's kind of out of the game. And this guy's a struggling writer and he lives with her. And it's just fucking awesome.

[Jim Norton]

It's just Citizen Kane narrated by a dead guy.

[Mark Normand]

Or.

[Jim Norton]

No, no, no. That was. It was just. They started.

[Sam Morril]

He's dying.

[Jim Norton]

He died. Okay.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, he. No, he died in. His last words were Rosebud. But this is like. Actually, he's dead. But it's awesome. The famous line from it is, I'm ready for my close up, Mr. DeMille. Oh, yeah, that Sunset Boulevard, great fucking movie. But they say the play is insane. She won the Tony. The actress.

[Jim Norton]

Who is that?

[Sam Morril]

Nicole Scherzin.

[Unknown]

That what she won for?

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

Is that. I mean, the original?

[Mark Normand]

That's the original, yeah.

[Jim Norton]

That's Nicole.

[Sam Morril]

No, her name's Gloria Swanson. In the original, it. Buster Keaton is in it. Came. It's got. What's his name, the guy from Grand Illusion, the famous director is in it.

[Unknown]

You're talking about. Oh, Max Foncito.

[Sam Morril]

Yes. No, Max. Monsieur Max.

[Unknown]

Max.

[Jim Norton]

Max. Max. Not Max Schilling. Yeah. Max Von Seido is on the Exist.

[Sam Morril]

You know what? I rewatch, like, Dumbest Decision ever. Love, Raging Bull. But I was like, let me re. Watch this right before. I have, like, four sets of the Cellar on Saturday. Not a uplifting film. No, no. So good.

[Jim Norton]

No, the stuff at home, though, like when he's teaching her how to be a proper wife and flipping the carrots. Yeah, that stuff inspires me.

[Sam Morril]

We've got hilarious parts in it still. We're like. So we're like, you know, he's pissed at her and, like, he's. He's trying to, like, take the jewels out of the belt and all the dishes fall. And he's like, why'd you put dishes over there? Him just being an abusive husband.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

And the fact that his rock bottom is just being a comedian. All the bad shit he's been through, he's like, I'm going to tell jokes on stage. That's supposed to be like the sad point of the people.

[Jim Norton]

Like, oh, the poor guy.

[Sam Morril]

But it is such a great fucking movie. And I watch. I watch. Why did I watch this before? I have to be funny for.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

It's such a miserable movie.

[Jim Norton]

I haven't seen that in a year. But I favorite De Niro. Scorsese, Pesci.

[Sam Morril]

That's your favorite.

[Jim Norton]

100. Over Goodfellows, over everything they've done. And when I walked in, when I shot that scene in the Irishman.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, no, you were the Irishman to your Rickle.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, yeah. De Niro was in it and Pesci was in the scene. So I walked into Gotham and I just see. Because it was. It was for blocking, so no one was in the room. I walk in and it's Scorsese, De Niro and Pesci just standing there, and they had, like, gangster hats on. And I was like, this is fucking Raging Bull. It was the hardest thing I've ever done, was not take a photo. I. But that's the first thing I thought of was, this is Raging Bullies.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Sam Morril]

Damn.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. It's a fucking masterpiece. The music in the beginning, that. That beautiful, like, string. Whatever.

[Mark Normand]

The boxing in the black and white.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, my goodness. Like, how they made the. Like. They were like, breaking light bulbs or something in the ring to make it look that way.

[Jim Norton]

Wasn't it also for the camera flash?

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, the camera flash.

[Mark Normand]

That's great.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, I can't. Yeah, I do.

[Sam Morril]

That's crazy.

[Mark Normand]

Best you've ever looked.

[Jim Norton]

I can't listen. I can't listen. I can't.

[Sam Morril]

I saw this. I saw this in the theater, and I was like, this is so cool to see you pop up in it.

[Jim Norton]

Hell, I was happy. I didn't know I made it until the actual day, like, the night before. Ray Romano told me before the premiere.

[Sam Morril]

He's great in it. Dude.

[Jim Norton]

He is great in it. And I just rewatched it. I actually liked it more the second time I saw it.

[Sam Morril]

Like, it's good.

[Jim Norton]

Not in a theater. I was home.

[Sam Morril]

Also, the second half is, like, I think, kind of incredible when they're getting old together and they're in the prison and how fucking dark it is. Like, it's got some great parts in it.

[Mark Normand]

If you can get past the De Niro. That was cgi.

[Jim Norton]

I know, because I really thought he killed the guy. That was so amazing. When he stepped on the guy, I'm like, very realistic.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Hurt the guy.

[Sam Morril]

A lot of people don't know this about that movie, but when he said he liked to paint houses, that meant kill people.

[Mark Normand]

No.

[Sam Morril]

No one knew that, but I caught.

[Jim Norton]

That's very good.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

And also, I do my own carpentry and all that stuff.

[Sam Morril]

It was cool. I like that movie.

[Jim Norton]

I did, too. I read the books before to really prepare, but I didn't have to. I tried to see if Rickles. They actually did use the dialogue. I think that he used that Night, which I liked.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

That they use the stuff that he actually said to.

[Sam Morril]

Scorsese uses comics so much, like. Like Goodfellas. You got the Henny Youngman scene, right? You got.

[Mark Normand]

Alan King is in Casino. Rickles is a casino.

[Jim Norton]

And the one guy in Raging Bull hit me with the left hook. No hand, just a hooky head. He's my favorite fucking comic ever. He's just eating his dick in front of Jake LaMotta.

[Mark Normand]

And you had Jake LaMotta on the part or the. The radio?

[Jim Norton]

We've interviewed him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was. He was very punch. I think Stanhope told a joke about it, but he really did. He kept telling the same joke.

[Mark Normand]

I know the diabetes.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, but Sugar Ray. So many times I got diabetes. And then five minutes later, it. Say it again. And his hot wife is there. Yeah, it was great. I didn't care. I was happy to talk to him.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. He could not have been happy with Raging Bull.

[Jim Norton]

He was actually really. I think in real life that it wasn't his brother Joey. I think that was his friend that he beat up, Pete, if I remember. And I think that he said that he actually didn't fuck Vicki like he fucked up. I don't remember I've seen him talk about that. But yeah, he loved it because it made him relevant again. I don't think he cared.

[Mark Normand]

Right, Right.

[Sam Morril]

I was a feeling then to be a boxer, you kind of had to just take like the mob just ran that shit. You just kind of had to take a payoff, right?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, yeah. You just took it and he took your dive. And then Marcel Sedan was the guy killed. The fucking champion who was killed in the. The plane crash, I think.

[Sam Morril]

Was he killed in the plane crash?

[Jim Norton]

Marcel Sedan was. Yeah, he was.

[Sam Morril]

That was a champy beat, right?

[Jim Norton]

I think that was the guy he beat.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

That was such a fucking great movie. I want to watch.

[Sam Morril]

It is great.

[Jim Norton]

Babble about it.

[Sam Morril]

I just. I just end up like Criterion always does, those flash sales. I just buy a bunch and I was like, fuck, I got to rewatch this. It's so. It is so fucking good.

[Jim Norton]

And the color stuff, when they go into color to fit, like, the whole movies are all in color.

[Sam Morril]

It's so beautiful.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, it's beautiful. It's a great movie. Some people haven't seen. They've only seen Goodfellas Casino.

[Sam Morril]

Dude. Have we watched Taxi Driver while we were talking about that, too. That one holds up fucking brilliantly, too. It's.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, it's amazing.

[Sam Morril]

He's the best.

[Mark Normand]

So many people have copied it, too.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Fun fact about La Motta, he grew up in the Bronx and they would. His dad would make him fight the other Kids in the neighborhood for fun, like, for the dads to watch, they'd all sit around in lawn chairs, and whoever won got pennies thrown at him. Oh, that was just like. That's how he learned to fight. Just, you know.

[Sam Morril]

We had very different upbringing, man. That's. Yeah, shit's changed a lot.

[Mark Normand]

They said they did, like, a test, a scan on his brow, his head, and he had more padding than most people on his skull.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, that's why he. Probably because he would move forward a lot.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Like, his defense. I forget what I said to him. It was something about his defense was that he was so offense. I said something about the way he moved forward, and he goes, you're very smart, you know? Then he talked to a lamp, so it didn't really mean much.

[Mark Normand]

Then you have.

[Sam Morril]

Didn't you have a cameo in Spider Man 2?

[Jim Norton]

I had one cameo, yeah. It was. It was in Spider Man. It was. It was. I didn't even meet Sam Raimi. We just did it in fucking. In Queens was the second unit shoot where they were just asking us to improv lines about Spider Man. And I just kept doing, like, all these dick jokes about the webbing being a load. And I'm like, this is a kid's movie. And I'm like, all right, that's stupid. Stinks. And I like them. And I. Again, I found out I was on the air with oh and the Afternoon, and some fan called, and he goes, yeah, I saw it. You were in. You made it. Whoa.

[Sam Morril]

You said you say you stink.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, he stinks. And I don't like. It was one line. That's great. I was negative, and it actually got in. Yeah, it was my. The surly truck driver is how I'm built.

[Mark Normand]

There he is.

[Jim Norton]

It's a half second. He stinks, and I don't like him. I know.

[Mark Normand]

My God.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, I'm committed. Writing to camera, I mean, wow, that guy's good.

[Mark Normand]

It's sad that. That is a huge movie. I saw this in the theater, and it doesn't really equal one ticket sold. Yeah, this is Giant. You're in Spider man, but no one's like, we gotta go see that guy at the Funny Bone.

[Jim Norton]

I have a special out that doesn't equal one ticket. Nothing equals one ticket sold.

[Mark Normand]

So what do we do? Why do we want to be in movies?

[Sam Morril]

We got De Niro in the. In the opening of that special. That was pretty cool.

[Jim Norton]

No, I have a new one that, like. Yeah, that was 2017, and that didn't help with tickets. The one I just did. Also not happy with tickets. Great news.

[Sam Morril]

It'll help. But you just got.

[Jim Norton]

I hope so.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. It takes a second. Yeah, but it'll help.

[Jim Norton]

It's funny.

[Mark Normand]

What? That my friend. Our friend runs a ticketing site and he's like, whitney went on CNN and bitched about, like, the Trump shooter. And he's like, her tickets went through the roof.

[Sam Morril]

Well, it was. It wasn't the Trump thing. It was. She went on the New Year's Eve show.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Trashed them. That's what helped.

[Mark Normand]

But she did a bunch of conspiracy. She's like, well, I have the microphone. What's up with this? What's up with that? And, like, it just blew up.

[Jim Norton]

Oh.

[Mark Normand]

You never know what'll sell.

[Jim Norton]

You don't know what's going to happen. The things you think are going to work, don't. Yeah, no, I've been through. I've been through everything I think is going to work just doesn't.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

So whatever.

[Mark Normand]

And then you get a. You run over a guy in a DUI and you're like, yeah, yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Work for Matthew Broderick.

[Jim Norton]

Holy. In Ireland. Right.

[Sam Morril]

Holy.

[Mark Normand]

Apparently getting ahead.

[Sam Morril]

Get. That's the rumor.

[Mark Normand]

That's the rumor.

[Jim Norton]

He's getting head from Gray.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Oh.

[Mark Normand]

Which is impressive with that honker.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, I know. Maybe that was the problem. I just kept poking his balls. He's like, owen, what the. And he pulled back and his foot hit the gas.

[Mark Normand]

Ball getting pecked.

[Sam Morril]

What a crazy fucking thing to happen.

[Mark Normand]

I know.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

So you're like, man, I have a great life. I was in Ferris Bueller. And then you just fucking murder someone.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Damn.

[Jim Norton]

Everybody's calling your wife a horse. Like, she's a great actress. She's part of a massive series. Anybody can do is fucking call her names.

[Mark Normand]

I'm very attracted to her.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Jessica.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, yeah. She's also great. I mean, I love her, but. Oh, yeah, but she. Yeah. You love a big nose.

[Mark Normand]

I like a honker.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. I don't mind it either. It's not a fetish for me, but I'm okay with it. It doesn't bother me.

[Mark Normand]

It just puts. It makes the face so striking and scary.

[Jim Norton]

I knew a guy who used to. When he would. He had a big nose, and when he would eat pussy, he would put his nose in her pussy.

[Mark Normand]

Whoa.

[Jim Norton]

He's a comedian. He hung up. He killed himself.

[Mark Normand]

Really?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Yeah, he put a gas to. He gassed himself in the car. But he would put his nose a.

[Mark Normand]

Well, with that honker. He probably Died quick.

[Jim Norton]

All that took him eight hours to so much room. Just kept cycling through.

[Sam Morril]

What a weird move.

[Jim Norton]

I'll never forget. That's what I remember him the most, is that he would put his nose in her box. And she was a heavy gal. She. Big gal.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, big lady. That'd be fun if you put it in. He was like, oh, eggs Benedict for breakfast. You get the whole. Whole meal plan. All right.

[Sam Morril]

I think we squeezed all the comedy out of that one right there. Yeah, that was all the juice out of that.

[Mark Normand]

Well, that's what dogs are doing with the butthole stiff. And they're just like, oh, how old are you? They get a whole dossier from that B hole. It's like. It's like a Tinder profile.

[Jim Norton]

I didn't know that.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, you're learning a lot. That's why they sniff. It's all just. It's like getting to know somebody. What do you do? How are you? Where are you from?

[Jim Norton]

I don't mind the smell on a woman, like, and I don't. I don't like bad breath. But if someone's got, like, a little smell, like, she doesn't shower it, I'm okay with that. As long as it's not dirty. Like, gross. But a little bit, I'm okay.

[Sam Morril]

I get a little stink is fun.

[Mark Normand]

But Bo.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, no, I don't like Bo a little bit.

[Jim Norton]

I don't mind. I don't know. But some.

[Sam Morril]

Some women just, like, don't smell like. They'll just like.

[Mark Normand]

That's true.

[Sam Morril]

Like, not shower and they smell fine.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Yeah. I'd rather a pinch of something than smell too good.

[Sam Morril]

Really.

[Mark Normand]

Like, you know, you ever down there and it smells like the vag smells great.

[Jim Norton]

No.

[Sam Morril]

I was also lost, Mark.

[Mark Normand]

All right, so how about that Raging Bull? Hell of a picture. Really well done. Did that win Best pick?

[Jim Norton]

No, no. Ordinary People won.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, he won, though. He won the Oscar.

[Jim Norton]

He won the Oscar. Scorsese did not win it. It went to. It went to. Who directed Ordinary People? It was not Robert Redford, and it was Timothy Hutton won for supporting actor instead of Joe Pesci.

[Sam Morril]

History always, like, shows how retarded the Oscars are, though, whether, like, the. The stuff that age as well. Like, Ordinary People's fine.

[Jim Norton]

It's good, but.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, but it's like Raging Bulls on another level.

[Jim Norton]

It's a masterpiece. Yeah. Yeah, but that was a movie about, like, people, like, they kind of saw themselves and, like, you know, I mean, the therapist rescuing the. The boy, you know, it was just.

[Sam Morril]

That I love Judd Hirsch, though. But, yeah, I agree. It's like, dude, same with, like. It's like when it's like, you know, Sean Penn won for Milk over Mickey Rourke and the Wrestler. Like, I was. I thought the wrestler was, like, insane.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

And I love Sean Penn and Milk, but I'm just like. It's just. That's more of an Oscar bait type movie than a film about a wrestler, you know?

[Mark Normand]

Yes, exactly. It's like you said, they see themselves. Like, they're like, oh, he's gay. We're gay. And then the. What's the other one? The Artist. Remember, the Artist won.

[Sam Morril]

Oh.

[Mark Normand]

It was a black and white silent movie.

[Sam Morril]

We all felt fancy. We're like, we saw a black and white film with. With subtitles.

[Mark Normand]

Exactly. Who was. No one saw it, by the way. No one saw the Artist.

[Sam Morril]

I saw it.

[Mark Normand]

I saw it, too.

[Sam Morril]

Everyone saw it.

[Mark Normand]

It's actually really good.

[Sam Morril]

It is a good movie. I enjoyed it.

[Mark Normand]

What are the other movies that year? Sorry, Jim.

[Sam Morril]

No, this guy was awesome, too. He was in, like, Wolf of Wall street, too, remember?

[Jim Norton]

No, I don't remember.

[Sam Morril]

It wasn't that recent, is it?

[Mark Normand]

It's foreign.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Huh. The dog was great. And the puppy.

[Jim Norton]

Ah.

[Mark Normand]

Who. Yeah. What was the other stuff that year? Because everybody was blown away. And then it was kind of like when moonlight won.

[Jim Norton]

Yes. They like to do that sometimes, though. They like to do that because it makes them feel like they're not predictive. The Descendants. Is that with George Clooney? Yeah. I didn't like that movie.

[Sam Morril]

That was pretty good.

[Jim Norton]

Commercial for American Airlines, right? That is a 10 million mile flyer.

[Sam Morril]

Like, that was up in the air.

[Mark Normand]

That's up in the air.

[Jim Norton]

Is it really?

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I like the family in Hawaii.

[Jim Norton]

I know, I know. But I thought they combined those two things. Oh, okay.

[Mark Normand]

Moneyball was awesome.

[Sam Morril]

Moneyball's awesome.

[Jim Norton]

That was good. Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Movie. I love Midnight in Paris too, man.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah, I did, too.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, it was great.

[Jim Norton]

1974 is by far the best decision ever made at the Oscars.

[Mark Normand]

Let's hear it.

[Jim Norton]

Best actor. Instead of Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon, it went to Art Carney.

[Sam Morril]

I remember.

[Jim Norton]

Holy wow. Who was fine.

[Sam Morril]

They're doing Dog Day on Broadway with John Bernthal. Could be kind of cool.

[Mark Normand]

That is cool.

[Jim Norton]

Is he playing Sal or Sonny?

[Sam Morril]

He's Pacino.

[Jim Norton]

Okay.

[Sam Morril]

And then the guy from the Bear. The. The cousin is good.

[Jim Norton]

I don't know who that is.

[Sam Morril]

He looks like he could do it.

[Mark Normand]

I could do it.

[Sam Morril]

I fuck. I love Dog Day so much that's.

[Jim Norton]

Such a great fucking movie.

[Mark Normand]

Ahead of their time with the trans stuff.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely. Leon Shermer. He died of AIDS in real life. That guy. It wasn't really his name wasn't Leon Sharmer, but he died of.

[Mark Normand]

One of my first jokes was Anne Frank was in Attic. Never worked. No one got it. But yeah, they're playing Dog Day. They play movies in the park by my house. They're playing Dog Day now. And in August, do that.

[Jim Norton]

Chris Sarandon, you know Chris Sarandon was in. In Dog Day Afternoon. He was. He was Leon Shermer.

[Sam Morril]

No.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, oh, really?

[Jim Norton]

You're not dying, Sonny. You're killing everyone around you.

[Sam Morril]

Yes.

[Jim Norton]

Snickering behind his back.

[Mark Normand]

Is that Susan's brother or.

[Jim Norton]

You know, I don't know. He had a pretty good career. I don't know if he's related to her.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, they are. Look at the height on that. That's a real.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, that's the real couple.

[Sam Morril]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

Thomas, Jim and his wife.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah. Look at that. You could replay this.

[Jim Norton]

That is the real them. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Set in Brooklyn, right?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. I forget his name and John or something. He wasn't Sonny. Oh, you say me. I'm sorry I interrupted you.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, no. I just saw a headline for Anne Frank that said, like, maybe she was a lesbian. And it's like, who the is that headline for?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

So obsessed with.

[Sam Morril]

I know.

[Mark Normand]

Identities of everybody.

[Jim Norton]

She was a child. She's, like 14.

[Sam Morril]

She was like. She'd make a comment about a girl being attracted. But she's a child. Why are you sexualizing a little kid?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Norton]

It's like how they come out. They'll say things like, christ was trans.

[Mark Normand]

I know. I remember J.K. rowling did that. She was like, dumbledore is gay. And you're like, the book's over. Shut up. You can't just claim him as a game.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, you can't just say it. In hindsight, yes.

[Sam Morril]

Like, you're a hero.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

They've once you made all your money.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Now you're like, oh, he was gay, by the way.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. I'm gonna do that when you die, by the way. Big homo.

[Jim Norton]

Who was the reporter? Was it Barbara Walters that got for. For the way. Because things were seen differently back then with interviews and questions.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Was it Barbara Walters that got shit for questions? She asked Brooke Shields or somebody.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, I don't know. I know. Connery said he was gonna hit a woman.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, yeah. And she really went at him.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

I was. I was shocked. She didn't catch a beating after that interview.

[Jim Norton]

I know. Yes.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, sorry.

[Jim Norton]

That's okay.

[Mark Normand]

She banged somebody weird.

[Jim Norton]

Barbara Walters.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, she was banging. It was a black guy. I can't remember who it was. It was like, not Richard Pryor, who.

[Jim Norton]

She did interview and would annoy you.

[Mark Normand]

It wasn't prior. We all know. Ah, I can't remember.

[Sam Morril]

Will Sylvience.

[Mark Normand]

Is this it?

[Jim Norton]

I don't remember. I think Brooke was older here.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Jim Norton]

Somebody asked her when she was. I just don't remember. Like I, I remember reading about it. Or maybe she was young there. Who knows?

[Mark Normand]

She looked pretty young.

[Unknown]

Here's a tick tock. Tick tock's always going to get it right.

[Jim Norton]

Tick tock will get it right.

[Mark Normand]

81 interview. Here we go.

[Sam Morril]

And had her mother with her at the interview was all over the Internet today because yesterday Brooke Shields went on the Drew Barrymore show and she talked about what was going through her mind and what her feelings were during that. I have a clip of that.

[Jim Norton]

Asked me to stand up and I stand up and she was like comparing herself to this little girl and I thought, this isn't right. I don't understand what this is. But I just, I behaved and I just smiled and felt like so taken advantage of.

[Mark Normand]

There's a strand of me too. By women coming out. Have you noticed this? Like a lot of these teachers are banging young students.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

There's a CEO of like Facebook lady who is. Or. Or hitting on a bunch of the women there. Yes.

[Sam Morril]

Really?

[Mark Normand]

Then the caller, Daddy Gal has a new documentary about her coach on the soccer team.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, the woman. Yeah, she said harassed her.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah. There's all the big string of lady creeps coming out.

[Jim Norton]

Wait, the one from Facebook though, Didn't her husband die not long ago?

[Sam Morril]

Cheryl Samberg.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, I might, I might have the company wrong.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

She also was like, I think she was. Got shit for being like, this is a lesbian.

[Mark Normand]

I'm talking.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. For not for other reasons. I don't think it was that.

[Mark Normand]

No, no, maybe not her.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. I thought her husband died 2015. Okay, 2015 death.

[Unknown]

And yes, Suddenly on vacation, private beach.

[Jim Norton]

Wow.

[Unknown]

I did find that Brooke Shields interview.

[Sam Morril]

Rock had a good joke about Sheryl Sandberg about like, how she thinks, like, she's a beautiful woman, but like, you know, she works at Facebook. Like, I'd fuck her if she worked at Burger King. That's the difference between men and women. That's a great angle, man.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, yeah, because we haven't really seen you standing next to someone very hard when you get a little kid this side to keep. To keep her. Keep her down to size. Isn't it? What did she say that was so bad? She stood up next to her.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. But she felt taken advantage.

[Jim Norton]

Brooke was very statuesque.

[Sam Morril]

I think just being a famous woman at that age is like, bad shit's gonna happen.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

It's not like it's gonna like that. That couldn't have been the worst.

[Mark Normand]

Right? You know, also, I've seen hotter kids than this.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, exactly.

[Mark Normand]

Come on. But Google what. What black guy Babs was blowing?

[Unknown]

What black guy? Baby?

[Mark Normand]

I just want to know for my own curiosity. It might have been a Middle Easterner as well.

[Jim Norton]

Adnan Khashoggi.

[Mark Normand]

Muhammad Sheikh Khalid or whatever.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, God. Well, there's a couple of. Sheikh Mohammed Khalid was number three in Al Qaeda. So, yeah, I tip my hat to her.

[Mark Normand]

Abu Hamed Edward.

[Jim Norton]

Brooke. Yeah, I would.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, come on. That's not it.

[Jim Norton]

My ex girlfriend thought I was fucking Brooke Shields.

[Mark Normand]

No.

[Jim Norton]

Really? Yes. I forgot about that until recently because I did Furry Vengeance with. It was the movie Patrice was in. It was her and Brendan Fraser starred in it. So we were on set for a week or two and we got to know Brooke a little bit. And we were gonna play Qwerty. It was before. It was like a Scrabble game. So I had her QWERTY name written down and her number on my dresser. And my ex girlfriend thought I was. We had a huge fight because she thought I was Brooke.

[Mark Normand]

She had high hopes for you.

[Jim Norton]

How do I break this to you? But if I could her. Do you think?

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

Delicately.

[Unknown]

But look at this. I typed in Barbara Walters, sex with Richard Pryor. AI said that subject cannot be discussed.

[Jim Norton]

Why? Because it's sex. AI won't touch sex.

[Mark Normand]

Is that right?

[Jim Norton]

I'm guessing that's the worst. But no, I. I heard he was Dolly Parton. I think Paul Moody said that years. I mean, that's what I heard.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Sam Morril]

Richard Pryor and Dolly.

[Jim Norton]

I heard that years ago. Yeah, he was. Because she. He made her laugh and he was so. Barbara Walters liked Richard Pryor, though. I think. I think she interviewed him three times. And she's like, he lied to her. He made her very angry. But he was a very compelling.

[Sam Morril]

What'd he lie about?

[Jim Norton]

Doing drugs. And he was saying the N word in front of her. And like. Like saying like. You know, you say it. You know, you say obnoxious. I think he could be obnoxious when he wanted to be.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Yeah. Boy, he was the man.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. He certainly Was. There's a great interview of him. It was a guy who was. Obviously worked in a school. He looked like somebody's social studies teacher. And he interviewed Prior on the set of Stir Crazy.

[Mark Normand]

He's all coked up.

[Jim Norton]

It's so great. Yes, great.

[Mark Normand]

And then he's talking about how great Steve Martin is at one point, because.

[Jim Norton]

The guy's trying to tease Steve Martin. And Pryor's like, don't try to blow me up by Steve Martin's a genius.

[Mark Normand]

Yes.

[Jim Norton]

Get on the guy. And he called Gene Wilder a. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Wow. Yes.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Do they not get along?

[Jim Norton]

I don't. I think he might have been kidding. I think he was kidding. I saw Gene Wilder speak at the 92nd Street Y, and somebody asked him about Richard Pryor. And I think he said when he thinks of Prior, he thinks about time that was wasted or. Or, like, almost like the addiction and what it did to him and all the things he could have done. It wasn't a slam on him, but it was like an address to his, like, his addiction.

[Sam Morril]

We've talked about him. He's like. Even in the specials, he's like, clearly a cautionary tale, you know, he. The shit. He's. He's a genius, but the shit he's talking about, you're like, dude, you're killing yourself.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

There's one scene in that interview where he goes, you don't like young girls. And then the interviewer's like, no, no. He's like, come on. You don't like young girls. And it's just so awkward but fascinating to watch.

[Jim Norton]

Well, they had done the interview already, and the sound didn't work, so they were redoing the interview in the afternoon. And Prior's making fun of him because, like, if that was a black sound guy, he would have been fine, you know, but he probably did, like, a gentlemanly school interview in the morning.

[Mark Normand]

You've got to find his interview.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, that's from the Improv in New York Live. And.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

That's where he eats the booger.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. No, never a no.

[Mark Normand]

Now, I like to say this on.

[Jim Norton]

Film because to all American male persons, never.

[Mark Normand]

Because they will lie.

[Jim Norton]

They always say, I won't tell. They lie.

[Mark Normand]

They can't wait till you finish them.

[Jim Norton]

Well, guess who was here.

[Sam Morril]

I've said this myself quite a bit as well.

[Jim Norton]

Look here. Well, the.

[Mark Normand]

Got more in him than me.

[Jim Norton]

That's. He was confessing that. And that was 1971. He shot that.

[Sam Morril]

He didn't give a.

[Jim Norton]

He didn't give a man, 1971, he and he it. He had like a transsexual girlfriend and he jokes about. But then she had to go and get the operation. Like she came back post op I think and wanted to date him. But he references it to. You ever see that roast? It was like after the Richard Pryor show got canceled. It's so funny. It's Paul Mooney. I've seen this Marshall Warfield and Pryor is just so great. He just kind of goes off the cuff but he references that. Like fucking Paul Mooney. And he references some transsexual that he had. He mentions her name. But yeah, Prior proud dabbled.

[Mark Normand]

What about Brando? Didn't they have a thing?

[Jim Norton]

I've heard that. I've heard it wasn't true, but then I've heard it was true. Like they said Sammy Davis sucked a dick when he got so. Like they said he was so bored. Like these guys. Davis, I think it was Sammy Rando.

[Sam Morril]

And Prior almost don't feel like real people. Yeah, it's hard to picture them. Only women. They're so not real.

[Jim Norton]

I. I know. Yeah. They seem like, like they're just like larger than that. Is that pick. That can't be right. That I've seen that picture.

[Mark Normand]

That's crazy.

[Jim Norton]

Brando.

[Mark Normand]

That's my wallpaper. But yeah, I wonder if that's how Sammy lost the eye.

[Jim Norton]

Blowing Matthew Broderick in Ireland.

[Mark Normand]

I think it just ran over a kid.

[Jim Norton]

Man by eye. You got clear stuff in my eye.

[Mark Normand]

Dark stuff.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, but I've heard that. But again, you never know if those stories are true or not. But Prior, I definitely know. Did. I mean at least he dabbled because he talked about it.

[Mark Normand]

It's so funny that back then this was all taboo, hush, hush. But now it might help your career. Yeah, I'm open minded. I'm swinging. I'm. I'm all over every sexuality fluid.

[Jim Norton]

But now people would look back on that and they would watch Prior saying that and instead of saying like he said this 50 years before other people said it when it was not. Like he made like he was fucking. He wasn't making like woke people. Like, you know, I mean like his audience was not that and he still said it and that they would. Oh, look at what? The way he used the F word. Like they would concentrate on the wrong thing. Yeah, they would, they would focus on the language instead of like what he was actually telling them.

[Mark Normand]

Right, right. That's so true. We love the language attack silly instead of the actions.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, that's a great special. It's really funny. He bombs in it and he released it in 81 because it didn't go well. So he sat on it for 10 years.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Sam Morril]

Well, it's crazy that someone like Richard Pryor is like, this sucks. Yeah, it's crazy that he would not release something.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, I'm sure he was pretty hard on himself.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, he said it in the special. He said something about like, I'm nervous. I don't want to be nervous. But he was kind of addressing the fact that he was. It's great. There's like a chalk. If you've ever seen it, it is like a. A chalkboard behind him. Like, he was just at the Improv in New York.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

Just having a bad set was so great.

[Mark Normand]

Well, do you ever see that Eddie Murphy, Comedians and Cars, where he was like, him and Seinfeld are driving around. He's like, man, when you would come in the. The Strip, I was so nervous. I want to do well in front of you. And you're like, Eddie Murphy nervous about this. This guy? Yeah, this little skinny Seinfeld. And he's like, yeah, when you came around, I like, really stepped it up. Eddie Murphy, the most confident man on the planet. Nervous around Seinfeld.

[Jim Norton]

I guess that was in the late 70s when he was still a young. Because Seinfeld got established pretty quick, right? Like doing the Tonight Show. He's respected pre. Early on. Like, I remember him growing up when I was a kid, like watching him on late night tv. So he was like a respected guy. Early.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, definitely.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. He had so many late nights under his belt before he even made Seinfeld.

[Jim Norton]

Right.

[Sam Morril]

Like, how many you think he did?

[Mark Normand]

I don't know, 12, something like that. But he said he saw a guy who he looked up to do the Tonight show and he was like, wow, that's my dream. And then he's. The guy did so well that they had him back like two weeks later. And he didn't have any enough good stuff and he bombed. Never got invited back. And Seinfeld was like, that was a huge alarm bells for my career because now I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna just keep writing and have new.

[Jim Norton]

I wonder who that was.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, he says who it was. It was a guy I'd never heard of because he just kind of fizzled out after that.

[Jim Norton]

It wasn't Teddy or Alan, was it you remember?

[Mark Normand]

I don't think it was not Teddy Bergeron.

[Jim Norton]

That's what I'm thinking.

[Mark Normand]

No, he's Hilarious.

[Jim Norton]

Yep. He's very funny.

[Mark Normand]

He drank himself to death.

[Jim Norton]

He's alive, isn't he?

[Mark Normand]

Oh, did he die?

[Jim Norton]

I don't know.

[Mark Normand]

I thought he died. Oh, but he was so. He had, like, a charisma. Y it.

[Jim Norton]

He used to come to the Cellar. He was working. It was a while. He was working out the Comedy Cell. He has a Boston comic.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

And he was working at the Cellar for a while. But I, I, I. And I had heard his history, like, while he was a nice guy, raging.

[Sam Morril]

I mean, Carson must have been the worst. Oh, because you. Because you think now you're like, yeah, one set's not gonna kill me. But, like, that. That ruins your career back.

[Mark Normand]

Could ruin your career. Yeah. Could make it or ruin it. It was kind of like the Coliseum.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. If you didn't do well, you were Tom Bergeron.

[Mark Normand]

Teddy.

[Jim Norton]

Teddy Bergeron.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, oh, did he do a Letterman already?

[Sam Morril]

That hilarious comedian from Platoon?

[Unknown]

Yeah. He died in 2022.

[Jim Norton]

I did not know he died. Wait. We were just talking. Something that made me think of somebody going on the Tonight Show. Oh, Robert Klein. I. I love Robert Klein. He's one of my. He's like. He's very underrated, historically.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Why do you think that is?

[Jim Norton]

I don't know. I mean, Robert Klein at Yale is one of my favorite comedy specials anyone's ever done.

[Mark Normand]

Really?

[Jim Norton]

From 82.

[Sam Morril]

Because he never did, like, a sitcom or something. Maybe that. Like that. Of that era.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Because I agree. His early shit's so funny.

[Jim Norton]

So funny. Did he do the first HBO special? I think Robert Klein did the first HBO special.

[Mark Normand]

I thought it was Carlin.

[Jim Norton]

No, Carlin did the first snl.

[Mark Normand]

Okay.

[Jim Norton]

I'm pretty sure now.

[Mark Normand]

You're probably right.

[Jim Norton]

I think so. I think Klein did. And I don't know him well, but I do know him. I've gotten a lunch with him because somebody told him I used to always say nice things about him on the radio. And so once in a while, just text him and just remind him how funny he is. And he tolerates it.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

But I wish I knew him better. I think my politics annoy him.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, really?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Carlin on Wait. Yeah. No, I think Robert Klein was the first one.

[Mark Normand]

I'm looking 5:75. Wow.

[Jim Norton]

I think so. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Didn't you say Klein was Jerry's favorite comic?

[Mark Normand]

Yes. Oh, is he Cosby and Klein? Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Well, no, no one's person, one's company.

[Mark Normand]

Thanks. Cosby's later work.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, absolutely. The joke's fine. But, I mean, you Know. Yeah, it's the. It's the bartending work.

[Sam Morril]

That would be hilarious. If Cosby on here and make him a drink.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, we'll get two beds set up. See what happens.

[Sam Morril]

We just. We drug him. He passes out. We're like, this is interesting.

[Jim Norton]

He had a weird. I. I met Cosby a couple times, and he's had a tell that he had a weird energy. Like, I. I met him in ac. My girlfriend at the time. Oh, it was not. It was. He. He had done. I think Chelsea Handler just told a story about meeting Cosby and AC And I believe it's probably the same weekend that I was there, because I met him after she did. He was doing the Borgata, and I was like, hey, can I come back and meet him? I'm a comedian. And they got right in between or after the show. So I went back with my girlfriend at the time, and he sat there and he talked to me for a while. He answered a lot of questions about comedy. And he kept meeting other people were coming in that were due to me. I was, all right, thank you. And he goes, oh, stay, stay, you guys, stay. So we get to stay and watch him do all these meet and greets.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

And then we were talking, and I'm like, is it okay if my girlfriend takes a picture with you? And he goes, as long as she's my girlfriend. But it wasn't. It wasn't ominous, but it was strange. And I marked it like, you ever make you make a mental note for no reason? He goes, she's my girlfriend now.

[Mark Normand]

Weird.

[Jim Norton]

And it struck me as odd, but not threatening. I didn't feel menaced by it or like she was in danger. But obviously, after all the other stuff, I'm like, oh, I see.

[Sam Morril]

It's not great.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, it's not great.

[Sam Morril]

What were his interactions with the other people?

[Jim Norton]

Like, politely talking to them and answering. I had met him before Ron Bennington was going to interview him, and so I wanted to meet Cosby. So he brought me in to just say hello real quick. And then there was a technical glitch. So I had, like 10 minutes with him, and he was just asking me questions about doing stand up and why I started. And I remember him, like, he would. He would ask a question and I would answer, and he was focusing on me and listening. And I'm like, that's why this guy's a great comic, because he listens and observes everything.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Like, you know what I mean? Like, no information was too. If he was faking it, he was Faking it. But he didn't really have any reason to. He just. All the information. He seems like he took everything in, and I'm like, that's why he's a really great comic. And he just takes everything in.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

So what. What happens? Your girlfriend go with him?

[Jim Norton]

No, but she. I wish she would have been my special numbers. I'm like, wait till I tell you about it. No, we just left. I mean, it's the whole thing. It just struck if he didn't get. If he didn't get, you know, persecuted. But if that didn't happen, I probably wouldn't even have remembered that. It was such a minor footnote. And I look back, I'm like, oh, yeah, that was weird.

[Mark Normand]

That's weird. Yeah. It's such a bummer. I was gonna say it's a bum. What happened to AC Because AC Used to be, like a thriving.

[Jim Norton]

I know.

[Mark Normand]

City and comedy scene. But then I'm like, well, it's a bummer happened to Cosby.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

But, yeah, like A.C. you ever. You ever been there recently?

[Jim Norton]

No, it's.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, it's. It's sad. You gotta stay at that casino, run down or take a cab anywhere. You don't want to go anywhere.

[Jim Norton]

Has it gotten worse?

[Mark Normand]

Oh, it's fine.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, I see.

[Mark Normand]

Dude, boardwalk's a bummer. Everything's trash and broken down buildings and, you know, just. It's a shell of a city.

[Jim Norton]

Do you know what? It probably is, because now gambling is legal. Like, they have Mohegan sun, you have Foxwoods, you have an online gambling.

[Mark Normand]

Yes.

[Jim Norton]

So the importance of it. It used to be Vegas and AC and that was it. So at least you had some reason to go there.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, good point.

[Jim Norton]

And now people like this. We'll go to the Poconos and gamble. Why would we go to this hole?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, I pull up DraftKings and just go nuts on my phone. I. I went to college with a guy, we lived together, and he would pay his rent with online gambling. Yeah, he never missed it.

[Sam Morril]

Never missed the one like that. Yeah. I mean, AC Is not the destination that, like, you know, Vegas is. No. So, I mean, I like doing gigs there, but then I'm kind of in and out.

[Mark Normand]

In and out.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. I used to do the Borgata. I would always do Martin Luther King Jr's birthday. I would do three nights at the Borgata. It was such a great hotel. And again, I'm sure the hotel is still fine, but. Yeah, I haven't been to AC in about five or six years.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

I had a weird all nighter in there with the Tell once. We just gambled all night.

[Mark Normand]

Really?

[Sam Morril]

One of the most fun nights of my life.

[Jim Norton]

In the Borgata?

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, it was like years ago. It was just like, it was cool to see a Tell in like a really good mood. Like we were both up a lot of money. It was one of those, like, rare. And people didn't know who he was, but he's just fucking zinging people, you know, like some guy yelled at me like, you know, you're supposed to hit there. And Itel goes, thanks, professor. You know, just being so condescending to people. But they were. By the end, they're all laughing their ass off at him. And it was like. I remember we just like walked outside. Like he drags a cigarette. He's like, wow, what a fucking fun night.

[Mark Normand]

Oh my God.

[Sam Morril]

It was pretty cool.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, that's.

[Mark Normand]

That's sober Dave too.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. Imagine I was not. But it was a fun. I mean, I've had some good times. The Borgata for sure.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, it's a great hotel. I just. I just haven't gone in a while and now you're saying it's kind of shitty. So.

[Sam Morril]

Like the hotel is nice and the. And the casino's nice, but. Yeah, like, you walk around down there, dude. Like, I remember doing like, like a week at the Tropicana. That was rough.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, God. Me and Voss, the Tropicana one time, they thought it'd be a great idea because they wanted to get people in. So they said it was one of the hosts birthdays or. So they had three hosts. And they had me and Voss roasting them because they were like, hey, we're have a birthday roast. And they had like 600 people there. But it was just a ruse to get gamblers.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

And Gephardt booked us and they didn't understand what a roast was. This is many years ago. So we're just going up and insulting these guys.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

You know, that they liked a lot. And we. I fucking bombed horribly at that. That was a really rough day. It was an afternoon gig. I think bombed as well. But they didn't tell them what a roast was. So. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Also, if you don't know the guy, it's just insults and then it's not like it's just mean. And now not only you bombing, but they don't like you. You're not just not funny. They're like, you're. You're an asshole.

[Sam Morril]

You're an asshole. You also are great on roast you were on the, I just remember like scrolling around TV and you were on like a Gene Simmons roast randomly.

[Jim Norton]

Oh yeah. Jeff Ross. Thank you to Jeff Ross. I love Kiss. And Jeff was, was doing something for Family Jewels. He goes, you want to roast Gene? Like yeah, I want to. That was because I'm roasting a guy I love.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Or if I'm roasting, you know, like Sagat. I did that because he requested me. Because I like, if I, I don't like all the random people on them that they just to check boxes or just to have famous people. It just doesn't make me laugh.

[Mark Normand]

I had a thought about Sagat the other day. Did we talk about this on here?

[Sam Morril]

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[Sam Morril]

America's Fun.

[Mark Normand]

America's Fun, which is also super wholesome, family oriented. You know, you win 10 grand if you got the funniest video. It's dad's getting kicked in the nuts and kids falling off the couch. But he was a filthy comic.

[Jim Norton]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

I don't feel like that would happen now. I don't think they would take. I'm trying to think of a filthy comic. But, like, Ari Shafir is never gonna host, you know, whatever the show America's. Well, actually Stern did. But that's. You know what I'm saying? Like, Ari's not gonna be the dad on a family sitcom.

[Jim Norton]

Right.

[Mark Normand]

Because we know too much now. Back then, there was no Internet, so you're like, who's this tall, handsome guy? Make him the dad. But now I feel like people would research you and go, we can't have this guy as the dad on this. It's. He was the amazing racist.

[Sam Morril]

He probably wasn't a big enough dirty comic at the time.

[Mark Normand]

I guess so, right? Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

No one was pulling up his old sets. Where would you pull them up if you didn't have it? Like, you wouldn't know what he was like in a nightclub.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, but, I mean, he did a Dangerfield, young comedian. He did a couple things, but back then it was like, who cares? He's. He looks right for the part, and then he can be the. The host of this wholesome game show.

[Jim Norton]

And nobody cared, though. Nobody was.

[Mark Normand]

Nobody cared.

[Jim Norton]

People like, so why he's a dirty comedian? Like, it didn't matter. Nobody was upset about it.

[Mark Normand]

And no, but now it's like, Jimmy Fallon did blackface 20 years ago, and you're like, okay, yeah, that's why I like him. Just saying you didn't dig in back then. It was just like, he's like, he's put that guy as the host. There you go.

[Sam Morril]

If I feel like people liked, you know, his stand up, like, he'd get a laugh. Just cussy was dirty. He would just show up, be filthy. Like, oh, that's. People didn't know.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah, totally.

[Jim Norton]

What turned people on to how dirty Saget was was when he did the movie with Chappelle and Brewer.

[Sam Morril]

Half baked.

[Jim Norton]

Half baked. And he had that line about suck dicks for coke. And I was at I think I went to the premiere of that, but I remember that everyone was shocked.

[Mark Normand]

Yes.

[Jim Norton]

That Bob Saget had just said that. And that was kind of like people go, oh, he's dirty. I believe that was the first time, like, after his fame that that became known. Like, oh, yeah, he was a dirty comedian.

[Mark Normand]

I think you're right. That was a shock.

[Sam Morril]

Was that roast a lot of fun? I remember because that was, like, the one where Norm went off.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Blueberries.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

I said, look. Yeah. Picking blueberries. He was very funny. Geraldo was great. Cloris Leachman was fucking hilarious. Yeah. It was great just to be included, because they. I think we had done, like, a traveling virus show the night before, and Geraldo was on it, and we flew in the day of the roast, which just sucks.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Flying cross country and not sleeping. I remember they wanted me to close it after Gilbert, and I'm like, gilbert, close it?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

But it's. He's just gonna do jokes. He's gonna murder. And Artie Lang, they tried to get desperately for that. They're willing to fly him out with a doctor. Like, wow. They were gonna put him on a private plane, but they just. He just couldn't get it together. He was having a rough. Bit of a rough go at that point.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. I'm glad I did it.

[Mark Normand]

Was that the one where Geraldo had to help?

[Sam Morril]

No, because already didn't go to that one.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah, that's the one already.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. Artie's told us that story where, you know, Geraldo, like, took care of him already. Was so fucked up. And they went to a roast, and.

[Mark Normand]

I think was the other way around.

[Sam Morril]

No, no. Oh, yeah. Artie already took care. Already took care of Geraldo.

[Mark Normand]

He was legless, on a bender, drug addict.

[Sam Morril]

And he. And he, like, helped him get his. Yeah, sorry. And he. And he gets it all together. They're on the flight. He's, like, freaking out. He's like, I'll sit with you. I'll fucking take care of you, whatever I can. Helps him a couple days there to, like, get back on his feet. And then Geraldo's first line, he just turns to Artie Lang, goes, artie Lang's here, you fat drug addict. And Artie lost it laughing. And Greg Giraldo just went like, you know. You know, But I love that.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

I miss Artie a lot, man. I. You know, he's such a cool dude.

[Jim Norton]

Where is he?

[Sam Morril]

I. I think he's just chilling.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, is he okay? I've asked about Him a few times. I don't know how to get a hold of him or. Yeah, he kind of comes and goes like.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

And then he's gone for a while and then he comes back. I heard he was doing okay, though.

[Mark Normand]

All right. We'd love to have him on and get him to relapse.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, I mean, it would be good for the. Be good for the gram guy who doesn't know when he's the.

[Unknown]

So are you guys working on any new bits or want to go over some peeves?

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah, we do peeves on the show. I don't know anything that bugs you. A pet peeve. I'm trying to think. I had one. Hold on. If you got any, throw them out there.

[Unknown]

Or if you're working on any new bits, we can kick it around.

[Mark Normand]

He likes to throw.

[Sam Morril]

He likes to throw the show to a screeching hall.

[Jim Norton]

I don't mind the idea. Hey, if you guys are workshopping something, let me think. I'm trying to think if I have any new bits. I do on Chat GPT, but I got a few laughs out of it.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, you're using that for bits?

[Jim Norton]

What?

[Mark Normand]

Chat GPT?

[Jim Norton]

No, no, no, no. I'm actually writing a bit about my. Oh, being.

[Mark Normand]

Got it.

[Jim Norton]

Babbling at it all the time.

[Mark Normand]

My wife. The same thing.

[Jim Norton]

Just talks to it all day. I'm like. I mean, I'm like, all right, I guess it's better that than I have to Europe, but.

[Mark Normand]

Right. Right.

[Jim Norton]

Pet peeve. I don't have any pet peeves. Like, we've talked about that before. I don't remember what it was. Be funny if somebody just blurts out a bad answer. Jews. Did you say something?

[Sam Morril]

You know what? I'm on Twitter. That's a lot of people's pet peeves.

[Mark Normand]

The new mayor, maybe.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, God, that's right. The election is soon.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, Everybody. I saw the voting stickers today. Everybody got them on.

[Jim Norton]

I just. Yeah, I couldn't. I was. I was running late for here and I was like, we don't need to be a Democrat to vote in their primary.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I don't know the rules.

[Jim Norton]

I don't either. I only vote for the governors and the presidents. Who cares? Jim, shut up. Nobody wants to hear that. Do I have a bit that I'm workshopping? No, I can't think of any. Like, I'm. I just kind of talk things through on stage and that's.

[Sam Morril]

You always have new, though.

[Mark Normand]

I always see it.

[Sam Morril]

The seller.

[Jim Norton]

But it's also. I Got to write it down. I mean, I gotta. Like, you look at Colin stuff. He comes in with papers.

[Mark Normand]

I know that's what.

[Jim Norton]

That's what our job is. And I'm just kind of chatting through it and then I get stuck.

[Mark Normand]

Well, everybody's there. You talk to Burr. He's like, I never write anything down. I just kind of think of an idea and I wing it and figure it out. And I'm like, I can't do that.

[Sam Morril]

I remember asking Jim Jeffries once, like, oh, how do you like with. Because his stories are long. He's like, I don't write stuff down. It'd be like a 25 page document for a story.

[Mark Normand]

So.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Talking through a story is probably a little bit different. Like, you remember where the beats are and stuff.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

But like, I. I still. I write things on my phone. I'll just talk them so I remember them. But I was doing a thing on Jeffrey Dahmer's glasses that just can't. It's not doing much. It gets like a chuck. I just can't. I can't find what's really funny about them.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, but they are funny.

[Jim Norton]

A guy bought them. That's what made me. I bought them at auction. He bought Dahmer's glasses. So I'm trying to do a bit that'd be fun.

[Mark Normand]

If you put them on and you became gay and a cannibal.

[Jim Norton]

That's funny.

[Sam Morril]

You know, like, they live like being John Malkovich.

[Jim Norton]

No. I did some dumb line about, I wonder if he puts them on when he's getting blown and tells people. You have no idea the pressure you're under. Right now. It gets a minor. Like, it's not enough to justify a look down blowjob reference. By the way, as I did that, I'm looking at my own fat stomach. Speaking of Brando, disgusted.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. You have any wrecks? Like movie or anything? Anything you recommend?

[Mark Normand]

You know is annoying about the Dahmer when the Netflix came out. Yes. Or I cut you off. No, but a bunch of people made it about like, can you believe he's killing and eating people of color and gays? You're like, the guy's eating people.

[Jim Norton]

He was gay.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Who cares what kind of people he's eating? Like, he's eating human beings. That should be the story.

[Jim Norton]

Here's what his fucking. His dietary preference, drilling holes in heads.

[Mark Normand]

He's eating Mexicans. Like, spicy. No, he's eating people. Who gives a fuck cares that they're black?

[Jim Norton]

Like, yeah, literally. That's Just who he likes, who he's attracted to.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Like he was murdering people he was attracted to.

[Sam Morril]

Terrible shave job there too. Look at that.

[Jim Norton]

It really is.

[Sam Morril]

He's missing so many spots.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

He's probably a quick shaver though. Like he starts shaving and then just realize like he wanted to fucking drill somebody's head and he would just put the razor down. Like, I can't commit to this right now.

[Sam Morril]

You know what else I could do with this razor?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Any recommendations? I did. I watched something I wouldn't recommend, which is a fucking documentary. It was called the Many Deaths of Nora something on Netflix. This woman who had been. I don't know, she was killed years ago in Argentina and they. They falsely destinora delmaso. It's a really an annoying documentary that could have been one episode. So I do not recommend watching.

[Mark Normand]

Stretch them.

[Sam Morril]

That's actually a peeve. When they stretch them. Like six fucking episodes and there's no. There's like one hook.

[Mark Normand]

I know. Making a murder. Was it making a murder? Oh my God.

[Sam Morril]

And then they came back for seconds.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

And I was like, this could be. They're like doing all these courtroom things. I'm like, just get to it.

[Jim Norton]

And he's guilty. And he's a fucking guilty piece of.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, that staircase that was like.

[Sam Morril]

That was. That was good.

[Mark Normand]

It was good. But I was like, get to it.

[Sam Morril]

That was the only. That was the only long one where I was like, that was solid.

[Jim Norton]

That's a pet peeve. Season two of show. Like they fuck up season two and you could like something that was supposed to be a 10 episode capsule that they now have to stretch because it's so popular. Like severance. Season two lost me. Like season one was interesting. And then they're just doing weird things in season two to make it like weird or to serve what they're doing. That. That's a pet peeve.

[Sam Morril]

I think it's so hard to make a show now that people are just like. They're just like. I don't fucking know what it's going to go.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

This is selling. It's the hard part now, you know that's right. Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Everyone's got a great elevator pitch except for me though I've never sold anything.

[Mark Normand]

Me neither.

[Jim Norton]

My elevator pitch stinks. The bad pitcher. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

You gotta make it now and just give it to them. That seems like the way to do it. Because pitching. No one's gonna buy anything from us. Who the fuck are we?

[Jim Norton]

I have an animation I want to do. Which I may have to make myself. I have episodes written and I have like. I really like it, but it's. I've just never been able to.

[Sam Morril]

What's it? What's the premise?

[Jim Norton]

It was about a sex addict, but then the cartoon.

[Mark Normand]

I like it, but then, well, it.

[Jim Norton]

Was originally written for me. And then I realized I'm not this blinking with a fat neck. I'm not a vehicle that people want to put their money on, so I'll draw it. And then there was another animation that we pitched about a guy who. Everything was a pilot. Every episode was a pilot of something that didn't work because I ruined it, because my own, like, I put myself in it or I did something where I sucked.

[Mark Normand]

And every.

[Jim Norton]

Everyone was Jim Norton wrecking a project. And they.

[Sam Morril]

What about Chip Chipperson, the animated show?

[Jim Norton]

I started that. You know, it's funny.

[Sam Morril]

Isn't there footage of that online?

[Jim Norton]

I did an anime. No, I did the episodes. I started animating episodes. I get all this money donated to me. People thought I stole it, but I just didn't like when I did the first bit of animation and people hated it. So I'm like, all right, now I got to rethink this. So from that came the podcast, and from that podcast, I animated a bunch of the episodes with the money. But no, there's not. Yeah, that one people hated and they. They just didn't like. But I listened. Like, instead of wasting the money and doing episodes they're gonna hate, we wound up starting like, that's just from the podcast.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, cool.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Or the whole chippy's mittens that you're. Oh, yeah, they've done that.

[Sam Morril]

I mean, he's a funny looking dude. I kind of like the look of it.

[Jim Norton]

I do too. Yeah, I think they did a pretty good job. I always wanted to animate Doug Bell, but nobody likes Doug Bell. Nobody has. It's got no legs. So. Yeah, that's a project no one gives a about.

[Mark Normand]

I say make it. And you know, Pixar will pick that right up.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, well, it's a matter of where. What do I do with it afterwards?

[Mark Normand]

I know, I know. Well, we had Segura on. He has that new show, Bad Thoughts.

[Jim Norton]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

He paid for the whole thing. He was like, I'll just try to make it. I'll make it and then try to sell it. And if I don't, I'll put it behind a paywall.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, very smart. That's what happens when you have a big fan base.

[Mark Normand]

I know.

[Jim Norton]

Like, I can't do that. If I put it. I did a special I'm hoping people watch. And if they don't, like, I'm like, all right, where's it?

[Sam Morril]

Where's the special?

[Jim Norton]

YouTube.

[Sam Morril]

What's the name of it?

[Jim Norton]

Unconceivable.

[Mark Normand]

I watch it really funny.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, thank you. That's right. I forgot to send it to you. Yeah, I sent it to Mark because Mark always knows what bits people are doing. I'm like, anybody doing any of that? I wanted to make sure before it came out that nobody else was. Was doing. You know what I mean? So I sent it to somebody who I know.

[Mark Normand]

No, you're saying no one has a bit about Trump Jr's dick, you know?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. So hopefully.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Watch this, guys. One of the best. So prolific. I mean, dude, every time I see at the seller, it's like, great new.

[Jim Norton]

It is the. Thank you. It is the best.

[Sam Morril]

Every time.

[Jim Norton]

It is the best. When you shoot something and you can be done with stuff. Like, I don't have to say that ever again.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, it's a beauty. Just throw it up.

[Sam Morril]

But then writing the new man, the starting. Starting from scratch is. It's fun, but it's also. It is miserable because I go through that phase whenever I start a new hour. It's like. It's just not connecting.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

And then. And then you get that, like, fake, like, what? Well, this will hit. This will hit. Because the whole set is weaker and you get like, a fake, like, oh, that's a good joke. And then you realize once you write better shit, that joke fucking sucks. This joke sucks. And it just. That process is. I'm not looking forward to starting it again.

[Jim Norton]

It's my favorite time, though. Like, when I'm done with something. Let's just. Ah, yuck. Put that down and just start kind of talking with no joke. I fucking love.

[Mark Normand]

Really?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. I go in the cellar like that with, like, maybe one bit. Like, I did a Sandusky joke that I didn't wind up keeping in the special because it literally was just gonna be overloaded with too much pedal references.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Norton]

I might take that out and I'll just start my new hour with that.

[Sam Morril]

That's nice.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, I'm. Nice to have that.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Damn. Yeah. I don't know, but do you go on the road and do clubs and. Yeah, just play around.

[Jim Norton]

I got, like, a new. I'm gonna buy my new 45 at this point, but whoa, it's been a few months. I mean, it's not like that.

[Mark Normand]

That's quick.

[Sam Morril]

That's quick as fuck.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, well. But again, out of that, how much is good? You know, 25, maybe.

[Mark Normand]

As long as the people see you and leave and they go, that was fun. We had a good time.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Sam Morril]

It's hard. I feel like I'm also in that place now where, like, pretty much everything when I do, like, 45 or so is working. So it. Then it's. Then it becomes hard to write because you're like, all right, I'm tagging. I'm not, like, writing new shit. I'm, like, editing stuff I have, but. But then it almost feels like your brain shuts off to the new ideas and it's focused on editing. And editing is just not as fun as writing, you know?

[Jim Norton]

No. And it's also, like, when I get an order in my head, sometimes I just make myself do it the other way because I'm like, don't get caught in this rut of just saying it this way.

[Mark Normand]

That's true.

[Jim Norton]

Boring, fast.

[Mark Normand]

But don't you find the order matters? You could. This joke works better after that joke or before.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just. So I remember what I'm saying, and it's not this automatic pilot thing as I fucking plumbing into the ocean.

[Mark Normand]

Louie always said, if you got a bit about where you say, five bottles of shit on the table, just change the six for the next show just so you don't get on autopilot. Yeah, that was always a good.

[Sam Morril]

But also just change up the order is good, because you'll sometimes find, like, a callback.

[Mark Normand]

That's true.

[Sam Morril]

But also on top of that, like, I feel like so many comics are going top heavy now with their material because of people's attention span.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

New audience, and you're like, I better bring the fucking heat for the first 10.

[Mark Normand]

That's true.

[Sam Morril]

Which is back in the day. I feel like it was the opposite here.

[Mark Normand]

Here. I agree. Yeah, back in there. You closed strong. Nice. Hey, it's like a dueling piano. Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. If I can pull one off, we can start a band here. Let's do it.

[Jim Norton]

I just felt it was obligatory to respond.

[Mark Normand]

Yes.

[Jim Norton]

If you make a statement and I don't respond, it's rude on my part.

[Mark Normand]

Shark Tank.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Deliver it. What does that mean, dueling? What's up with that kid? Did he get blown after this movie came out? Like, did he have a good run at the bar?

[Unknown]

There he goes. Donate.

[Sam Morril]

Shout out Ned Beatty for taking that.

[Mark Normand]

Role and taking that role.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Just getting tortured every Every drunk frat boy for the rest of your life is like, you're the fucking. You're the rape guy.

[Jim Norton]

That was such a great scene. They're, like, smacking his big, fat white dumper.

[Mark Normand]

They always talk about the Seinfeld curse. Like, Kramer couldn't get a job after because he was so Kramer. I can't not see Ned Beatty as the guy unless he's getting pounded. That's all I said.

[Jim Norton]

But he got a lot of work after that. He did Lex Luthor. He was in school. What's that?

[Sam Morril]

Back to school.

[Jim Norton]

He's great, right? Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

He's the honorable Dean Martin.

[Mark Normand]

There he is. Oh, yeah. He had a hell of a run.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. John Void. Burt Reynolds was great in that.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, he's a badass.

[Mark Normand]

What a man.

[Jim Norton]

He said he regretted, too. I, I, I think Chaz Palminteri I had on. And he, he said that, like, Bert talked to him and regretted taking certain movies. He's like, that would be these. They had dinner together and he said the. He might even said this off the air. He said that Bird said the one thing he regretted was going for the money. Like, he's like, I should have done better roles. Taking stuff like, like, you know, smoking the Bandit was fucking hilarious. Yeah, but taking stuff like Cannonball Run or, or maybe, you know what I mean? Like, maybe Sharky's Machine or a few things that he probably didn't need to do. He said he wished he had gone for the actual.

[Sam Morril]

He didn't chase enough good roles. He didn't think.

[Jim Norton]

He didn't think so. But he was the biggest box officer of the 70s. It's hard to say no, but he.

[Unknown]

Seemed to take the same role over and over, like tough guy. Tough guy. Tough guy had no range.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah, but he brought it all back with Boogie Nights.

[Jim Norton]

He certainly.

[Sam Morril]

But, I mean, he hated it.

[Mark Normand]

Really?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. What I heard he started doing it with an Irish accent.

[Sam Morril]

I heard that too, because he thought it sucked.

[Jim Norton]

It's not working, Bert.

[Mark Normand]

Well, pull up. Have you shown Boogie Nights is, like.

[Sam Morril]

Maybe his best movie?

[Mark Normand]

I know.

[Sam Morril]

It's a fucking masterpiece.

[Mark Normand]

Joan Zarza.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Have you seen this?

[Jim Norton]

No.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, this is Sean Connery, right?

[Mark Normand]

Oh, I thought it was. Oh, you're right. I thought it was Bert. Never mind.

[Jim Norton]

Is that a bad movie?

[Unknown]

No, it's the same director as Deliverance. It's his next movie.

[Mark Normand]

Never mind. What it was it Zo Zoharza?

[Jim Norton]

Was it a good movie or a bomb?

[Mark Normand]

Oh, that's the new governor. Mayor. So hard.

[Jim Norton]

There are Those classics like Heavens. Heaven Gate was the big one. That was a giant bomb. There's a few of them that are just known to be bombs. Heaven's Gate with Kris Kristofferson, I think is one of those legendary just jobs.

[Mark Normand]

Deliverance.

[Unknown]

Hold on, I'm going. Borman.

[Sam Morril]

I'm going for.

[Jim Norton]

That's right.

[Mark Normand]

That's what they called me on stage.

[Unknown]

Mark Borman.

[Jim Norton]

God damn it.

[Mark Normand]

Sorry.

[Jim Norton]

No, I'm not God damning you. I'm God damning myself. I should have pinched that one off when I let it go and saved it into two.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, you couldn't have known.

[Jim Norton]

Two halves. No, but I should have assumed.

[Mark Normand]

You hate a sequel.

[Unknown]

There it is.

[Sam Morril]

Sean Connery.

[Jim Norton]

Was it a comedy?

[Mark Normand]

No, no, very serious. The Scottish wife beater. I had to do this movie. Huge bomb. It was like his passion project.

[Jim Norton]

Sean Connery's a Borman.

[Mark Normand]

Connery.

[Jim Norton]

Passion projects always fucking suck. Revolt. This passion project was that Scientology movie.

[Unknown]

Battleship Earth.

[Jim Norton]

There you go. Ship Earth. Steven Spielberg's passion project. It didn't suck. But the. The Friedman's. That Friedman's movie. He did.

[Sam Morril]

Woman's.

[Jim Norton]

He just did it. It was that.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Fabelman.

[Jim Norton]

I'm sorry. Fableman's. The Freedman's. That fucking pedo documentary.

[Sam Morril]

That was.

[Jim Norton]

That was. Yeah, sorry. The Fablements. It wasn't awful, but I was like, who cares?

[Sam Morril]

I thought it was good. I just. It was just, you know, he's made so much great shit. It's kind of hard at this point.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. I just don't care what inspired a director to use a certain camera. I just didn't. And he made the decision to shoot it in that weird. I don't know what the style would be, but it was that fucking bizarre. Like, almost like comic book brought to life.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, right.

[Jim Norton]

Like Batman 2 or something.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah. Schumacher.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. There you go. Joe Schumacher. Batman, too. I say. Talk about not being in show business.

[Mark Normand]

Returns. Was it Batman Return?

[Jim Norton]

Probably, yeah.

[Sam Morril]

That was Tim Burton, though, I think, wasn't it?

[Mark Normand]

Oh, maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. Yeah. Batman and Robin was Schumacher. Nipples.

[Jim Norton]

Heaven's Gate was a complete. That was like, the reference.

[Sam Morril]

I don't know it.

[Jim Norton]

Oh. All I know is Chris Christopher. I think Warren Beatty was in it, too. Kris Kristofferson. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

He was a hunk.

[Jim Norton]

Warren Beatty.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, he dumped a lot of loads. Him and Nicholson, they used to say, used to walk out and see who could bring more women, who could leave with more girls.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Jack was another twat machine.

[Mark Normand]

Huge hog Apparently, Nicholson. Yeah. I heard him on Porn Star and Howard Stern as a. When I was a kid was like, oh, yeah, we all Nicholson. Huge hog.

[Jim Norton]

That makes me so happy because I love Jack.

[Sam Morril]

I love him. I love them both. They're fucking. I mean, great.

[Jim Norton]

Warren Beatty and him.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. Fucking great.

[Jim Norton]

What has Warren Beatty done in the last. I'll look at it. I love Nicholson. There's a picture of Nicholson on the back of a boat with it with his tits eating a giant sub and a bunch of blondes around him. Like, I love Jack.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, that's fun. He's just living. He's on. There. He is. He's.

[Jim Norton]

How do you not love this guy with his sub sandwich?

[Mark Normand]

I thought it was Hannah Gatsby. He's. He's just at the Lakers game with sunglasses on, just getting laid. He's living life.

[Jim Norton]

He is living life. And he was at a Laker game not long ago. Like, recently, like, his first outing in a long time. I was very happy.

[Mark Normand]

He's not doing Chase bank commercials or face to camera. He's not singing We Are the World with Gal Gadot during the pandemic.

[Jim Norton]

That really. That would.

[Sam Morril]

That would hurt to see.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jim Norton]

We are. Oh, this leads me into my Nicholson impression. We are the children. Get there, guys.

[Mark Normand]

We got there, there. Hell, yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Oh, my.

[Sam Morril]

This whole podcast has been one long. Just trying to get to the nickel.

[Jim Norton]

There was a note I gave. I'll say it now. Get me to Nicholson. He found a way that felt organic to do it.

[Mark Normand]

Is that Nicholson smoking in the ocean with his body underwater? Oh, my God, what a badass that is.

[Sam Morril]

Not that it makes me glad he's still going, because that is not the picture of health. Right.

[Jim Norton]

Dude, he's in his 80s. Isn't that crazy?

[Sam Morril]

87, I think.

[Jim Norton]

87.

[Mark Normand]

A lot of bloat.

[Jim Norton]

Him and Brando were neighbors. I believe they were neighbors on Mulholland Drive. They lived. Yeah. He's smoking in the water.

[Mark Normand]

That's how you want to go out. Just live your life. Just ride into the sunset. Don't do a dumb commercial.

[Jim Norton]

You ever see his speech? He won something for Chinatown and he did his, like, BAFTA speech from One Flew of the Cuckoo's Nest. It's just awesome.

[Sam Morril]

What? Yeah, he was with, like, Danny DeVito in the background and shit.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. And Louise Fletcher. But it was weird to hear her say Jack Nicholson instead of McMurphy. Yeah. To see them out of character for a minute was great.

[Mark Normand]

How about Cuckoo's Nest? The first six minutes he talked about Eating a girl out who's, what, 15? Like, you got that red beaver staring at you. What are you gonna do, Doc? Come on.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, it was a different time.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

We say she was 15 going on 30 or something. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Come on, Doc. When you got that red beaver, you're in the face, mister.

[Jim Norton]

That's true, is it not, this time? Absolutely true.

[Sam Morril]

But, doc, she was 15 years old.

[Mark Normand]

Going on 35, doc.

[Jim Norton]

And she told me she was 18. And she was very willing, you know what I mean? I practically had to take the sewing my pants shut. But between you and me, she might have been 15. When you get that little red beaver right up there?

[Mark Normand]

Red beaver?

[Jim Norton]

The doctor. Dr. Spivey, I think his name was. He was so good in that because he just listened to all of these weird things McMurphy would say.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Like when he called Louise Fletcher. Like, he called Nurse Ratchet. He's like, I see. I see. He was really great.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, what a. What a great casting. Look at that mug.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, he was. He was great. And DeVito and also Christopher Lloyd. Yes.

[Mark Normand]

Yes.

[Sam Morril]

You really can't make a good guy anymore in a movie with the first scene. He's like, she was 15.

[Mark Normand]

No, that ship's really sailed.

[Jim Norton]

And he dug in. He didn't express regret.

[Sam Morril]

It was red.

[Jim Norton]

It was right there. If you saw it, Doc, you would. You would have understood.

[Mark Normand]

And we loved it. We, like. I like this guy.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

He's the hero of the movie.

[Sam Morril]

You can make complex characters back then.

[Mark Normand]

I know.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

People are flawed.

[Jim Norton]

You ever read the book? The book was, like, great.

[Sam Morril]

It's from Chief's perspective. Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Which. I like the movie better because you don't know. He talks until, like. Until, like, halfway through it. Yeah. The book was very good.

[Mark Normand]

How do you do it from his perspective? Was it just his inner monologue?

[Sam Morril]

No, he's, like, witnessing this guy. He's, like, taking him in.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, interesting.

[Sam Morril]

But, yeah, the movie. I mean, it's an incredible adaptation. The movie is incredible. I loved it.

[Mark Normand]

Milo's foreman.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. And apparently she, like. She had big tits in the book. Nurse Ratchet. And, like, when he. When he puts her on the ground to choke her, he rips her shirt open and all the kooks are looking at her big tits.

[Mark Normand]

Whoa.

[Jim Norton]

Like an extra level of humiliation.

[Mark Normand]

Well, it's fun. I'm 41 now, and I. I've seen this movie 20 times, and now I look at. I'm like, she's pretty. She's kind of pretty there.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I'm getting older. I'M like, she's like a peer.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. She was sexy there. And also the other one, even though that didn't. That Nurse Ratched show bomb, like, on Netflix.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No one wants to side with her.

[Mark Normand]

No, we'd rather the pedophile.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. She goes, I. What worries me, Billy, is what your mother will think. How, like, Billy has that moment where he doesn't stutter. Like, he's like, no, I'm not. Like, he's finally getting better.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

She fucking takes him right back down. It's just so good.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. That was a brutal fucking scene, man. It. So many great scenes, too. I mean, like, when she won't let them watch the game, he just starts calling the game, like, as a fuck you to her. That's like a beautiful scene.

[Mark Normand]

Powerful.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Because she fucks him, he's like, you like a rigged deck because they take the vote and it's over. But then she counts all the other meatheads on the.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah. She won't let him watch the game. And Nicholson's like, it. He just calls it. I mean, he's so good in that movie.

[Jim Norton]

Dude, remember Scatman Crothers?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

They go, where's Turkle? He's jerking off. Ain't nobody jerking off.

[Mark Normand]

I think Louie said that. Oh, yeah. Scatman was in the Shining too, right?

[Jim Norton]

Yes, he was.

[Sam Morril]

Hong Kong Phooey. No.

[Mark Normand]

Really? Yeah.

[Sam Morril]

From the Hong Kong Book of Kung Fu.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, you might be right.

[Jim Norton]

Number one super guy. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Boy, this podcast is dated.

[Jim Norton]

It really is a raging bull's nest. Ordinary People.

[Sam Morril]

These are classics. Hell, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Whoa. Good pull. Good pull.

[Sam Morril]

Damn, that was a fun cartoon, man.

[Mark Normand]

That was fun. See, nobody's bitch about DEI hires back then.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, You.

[Jim Norton]

You understand when he's trying to get the girl to him. Yeah. The Shining. He was so great. He took an ax right in the.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, yeah.

[Unknown]

Chest.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, right in the chest. And the best part was the way when Nicholson. Because it was supposed to be a croquet mallet. The book. This is one of those ones where the movie is so much better than the book.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, really?

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, because they wasn't a hedge maze. They were hed animals. And he had a croquet. A giant, like, mallet.

[Sam Morril]

The maze is only in the movie.

[Jim Norton]

Yes. That was supposed to be hedge animals that came to life. But it was okay. But it was almost like in the movie. It wouldn't have worked.

[Mark Normand]

Too supernatural.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. Too weird.

[Sam Morril]

So memorable.

[Unknown]

Though they did say that this was the scene between him and Danny was the One that did, like, 174 times. Like the scene with these two specifically.

[Jim Norton]

Was it this one? Or was it when he was laying there on his back when they were connecting the little boy? I thought it was when they were. You might be right, but I thought the scene they did so many times when he was on his back, like, staring off and connecting with Danny, who was letting him know there was trouble.

[Unknown]

That scene.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah, that's the one. I'm thinking.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Jim Norton]

But I might be. Oh, they say, starring Shine, Starring Scatman Crothers. He didn't start it.

[Mark Normand]

No, no.

[Jim Norton]

You know who else was in that? The trainer from Rocky. No, no, no, no, no. The. The black guy.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Norton]

He played Larry. Larry Durker, I think. The guy who ran. Who rented the Snowcats out.

[Unknown]

Oh, wow.

[Mark Normand]

This guy.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. So if I wonder why my. No one's watching my special reminding of the information I offer up on podcasts.

[Mark Normand]

It's funny because we grew up with. I. I grew up with this movie. I grew up with Cuckoo's Nest and all these movies just, like, implanted in my brain. Raging Bull. And then a clip from In Living Color came up yesterday on my feed. I think I sent it to you.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

With Jim Carrey, where he's doing a Muslim guy selling an album, and he's like. He's full brown face, all that, and all the. All the songs are coming down the. Scrolling down, like, Kuwait a minute, you know, whatever. And all these great puns. But you.

[Sam Morril]

It.

[Mark Normand]

It was so offensive. But I'm like, this is what I grew up with. So, like, you can't get mad at us too much for the kind of comedy.

[Sam Morril]

What's his name? Dana Carvey, in this movie, Opportunity Knox. It was like me and my brother were obsessed with this movie as a kid. And then we rewatch it. There's like, a scene where he's doing, like, an Indian guy.

[Mark Normand]

Yes.

[Sam Morril]

He's like. He's just talking like that. There's another scene where he's doing the Chinese guy.

[Mark Normand]

Right.

[Sam Morril]

There's, like, all these offensive things in it. But, like, as a kid, I was like, this is gold.

[Jim Norton]

Gold. I don't like when they go back and, like, apologize for their old roles. It's like, you're never gonna win like that. You just gotta say you.

[Mark Normand]

I know, I know. I remember. Sorry.

[Jim Norton]

No, no.

[Mark Normand]

Well, Larry David did a Holocaust joke on the SNL monologue, and a bunch of people were like, larry, you're a Jew. You shouldn't be making jokes like that. And he Went, eh. And that was it. That's how you handle it.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

You just kind of go, shut up. What? And you move on.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. You can't. You can't give in hoping that they see you as pure again, because they'll never win. Tony Burton, his name was.

[Mark Normand]

There it is. Pull up that Jim Carrey thing if you can find it. It's all over.

[Sam Morril]

And the Dana Carvey thing in the.

[Mark Normand]

Cab doing the rounds.

[Sam Morril]

Is it?

[Mark Normand]

But I do think there's a. The Internet has brought as much as, like, political correctness and all that has changed things. And, you know, the mainstream. You know, Fallon's not gonna have that on and whatnot.

[Sam Morril]

But holy. Just from the picture, it looks rough.

[Mark Normand]

Let's the intern it all back.

[Sam Morril]

It's opportunity knocks. Cab or in the car. Damn. He did twice.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, he did another movie.

[Jim Norton]

Ideas that you never dreamed were possible. You can think.

[Sam Morril]

I haven't seen this one.

[Jim Norton]

You will be able to act like.

[Mark Normand]

Another person, to feel like another person.

[Jim Norton]

You will become another person. Become another person.

[Mark Normand]

Carvey.

[Sam Morril]

Oh, there was another. I was thinking about, but that's not. I haven't seen that movie.

[Jim Norton]

It's great. He's in character. He's immersed himself. I respect that.

[Mark Normand]

Is this the version, you know, when our parents would show us, like, look at this racist.

[Sam Morril]

No, it's a car.

[Mark Normand]

Asian propaganda.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

You know, those comics, they'd be like, look at this black guy. And it was like a crazy with big lips.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Show you a cartoon. Like, this was a normal.

[Jim Norton]

Or.

[Mark Normand]

Or Bugs Bunny would be like, oh, hello. At the big teeth. This is our version of that. You know, just showing like, oh, yeah. Dana Carvey was dressed as an Indian.

[Sam Morril]

No, this. This is it. I think.

[Mark Normand]

Oopsie.

[Sam Morril]

They just stole a car as a context. And even this would get him in shit now.

[Jim Norton]

Hello.

[Mark Normand]

Greetings.

[Jim Norton]

My name is Tagra. Am I talking to the church that stole my car? Let's just come back.

[Mark Normand]

It's really fast.

[Sam Morril]

I do not appreciate your profanity. If you wish to continue this conversation.

[Mark Normand]

May I suggest a new attitude? One more positive.

[Unknown]

I like the next role. He went, like, full Indian face.

[Sam Morril]

I didn't take it far enough.

[Jim Norton]

I didn't feel satisfied. No one bought it.

[Sam Morril]

I love Dana Carvey, dude. It's actually a pretty decent movie. I like this movie.

[Jim Norton]

Opportunity Knocks.

[Sam Morril]

It's. I bet it's got, like. I bet it's. My guess on Rotten Tomatoes is like, 9%, but. Yeah, but I enjoyed it. I liked it as a kid. I watched it like, 10 times, probably.

[Jim Norton]

It's funny how those things that made you laugh as a kid, like you always are kind of loyal to them.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Like I'll smoking the band and I'll go down with like. It was okay as a movie, but Jackie gleason, close.

[Sam Morril]

It.

[Mark Normand]

1990.

[Sam Morril]

I enjoyed it though. I think. I think he's fucking great.

[Jim Norton]

Dana Carvey is. Yeah, he's funny.

[Mark Normand]

Smokey the Bandit had a clan scene in it, didn't it? Where they chased a bunch of black.

[Jim Norton]

Guys that was in Bustin Loose did. Smokey and Abandoned as well. I know Bustin Loose did. Where Prior and them walk up and they're walking on a clan rally. I believe it was Bustin Loose.

[Mark Normand]

Okay.

[Jim Norton]

But maybe smoking the Bandit did too. If it didn't, it should have.

[Mark Normand]

Porky's had that weird anti Semitic ribbon going through it.

[Sam Morril]

Kite.

[Jim Norton]

Kite. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Too dumb to even be a good racist.

[Sam Morril]

That was. You know, I. I remember loving Porkies 81.

[Jim Norton]

It was a like a wild. It was like one of those teen rom com. Remember the scene where he puts his dick through the hole in the shower? Grabs it.

[Sam Morril]

Crazy.

[Jim Norton]

His dick off with her shoes. Awful nurse shoes.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. And then she said it had a mole on it. So she was like, we gotta find the guy with the dick and all. The guy. Yeah, it was great. Good, good quality fun.

[Sam Morril]

Good fun. Kids trying to get laid. Movies.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

That's a good genre.

[Mark Normand]

That was a genre.

[Jim Norton]

Teenage romps. Boys confused.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Jim Norton]

Trying to smell girls panties. Yeah, it was it.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Those were the days.

[Sam Morril]

Sure were.

[Mark Normand]

All right. Well, Jim, where are you going to be?

[Jim Norton]

Okay, I'm going to be, you know, I got tour dates everywhere. Since I'm not doing radio anymore, I'm on the road. And you can go to Jim Norton Comedy on YouTube if you want to see. Unconceivable. But yeah, I got a bunch of. A bunch of dates. I'm going.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, Vegas.

[Jim Norton]

Yes, Vegas. Also I got Pittsburgh, Maryland. Just. Just go to JimNorton.com if you live somewhere. I'm probably going there.

[Mark Normand]

Hell yeah. All right.

[Jim Norton]

Thank you guys.

[Mark Normand]

And watch your special.

[Jim Norton]

Yeah. If I hope people like it. It's gotten good remarks. So far, so good remarks. What a fucking grandfather. Thank you for watching it.

[Mark Normand]

Yes.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, check it out. Come see me on the road. I got a second Wilbur in Boston. Then there we go. Irvine, Oklahoma City. Vegas. Rochester, New York. Chicago. Theater, Winnipeg. Just added Europe for all of October. So like I'm coming to your place in Europe, basically. Italy, Germany, fucking Amsterdam, London, Dublin, Paris, all over Lisbon, I think as well.

[Unknown]

Barcelona.

[Sam Morril]

Yeah, a few more probably too. Salt Lake City, Reno and Big One, Carnegie Hall, New York City, December 4th. See you there.

[Mark Normand]

Very nice.

[Sam Morril]

Samuerrill.com shows or just. Just follow us all. Are you on punch up Jim? Punchup?

[Jim Norton]

No. I probably should, right?

[Mark Normand]

Check it out. It's helpful.

[Sam Morril]

Punch up live. Samuel or Mark Normand.

[Mark Normand]

I'll be in New Zealand. And Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth. And we're back at the Hamptons at the Canoe Place in Great Room. Calgary, Vegas, Dallas and Akron, Dayton, Halifax, Ottawa, going all over Canada. Hattiesburg, Huntsville, San Jose. We had a makeup because I got booked on the same day as Shane Gillis. So I had to pack up and get the hell out of there because I want to sell some tickets. Boulder, Colorado, Athens, Oslo, Helsinki. I wonder if we're in Europe at the same time. That would be a pod in Lisbon. Have you been to Lisbon?

[Sam Morril]

I haven't.

[Mark Normand]

It's one of the prettiest places I've ever seen.

[Jim Norton]

Is it Spain?

[Mark Normand]

Portugal. And Barcelona is nothing to sneeze at either. Yeah, and I'm at Magoobies too. And dc, Rochester, Niagara Falls, San Diego. So come on out, Mark. Novacaba.com we're punch up. Get some Bodega Cat. Follow us.

[Sam Morril]

DM Bodega Cat Whiskey on. On Instagram. Matt, we'll get back to you. If you wanted your bar. New York bars. You got a heads up all over. We're probably in your state now. We're making some progress, so get on that.

[Mark Normand]

Thank you, guys. Thank you, Jim.

[Jim Norton]

Thank you, Jim.

[Sam Morril]

Watch Jim Special on YouTube. Unconceivable now.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, get that Red Beaver. Take it easy.

[Jim Norton]

Sunday's the day for my next fender. A bit of Piva wrecking, you know, the beer Jew's close. I've had a little too much burping. And Norman's talking shit about the fucking poke. And I get down in the same way up on the roof like a cops coming and naked Samuel is feeling dangerous. I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans. This woman doesn't look like I remember her. And I get down in the same way. We might be true.